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Speaker 1: Jets drive inside the studio. Anthony back up from Florida.

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Speaker 1: I think Eric Coleman over the bridge from Long Island. Correct.

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Speaker 1: Good to see if fo Good to be back on. Man,

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Speaker 1: it's been uh, I guess a quick off season for

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Speaker 1: It's exciting. No, it's exciting time for this organization and

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Speaker 1: what they can do. So exciting times for the Jets.

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Speaker 1: But I have to ask you, maybe since he lived

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Speaker 1: Brady retires, then he decides he's gonna come back, and

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Speaker 1: then Bruce arians retires and former Jets head coach Todd

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Speaker 1: Bowls takes over. Yeah, I'm happy for Todd. Obviously I'm

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Speaker 1: a big Bowls fan. You know, Look, I think Brady

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Speaker 1: probably you know, it wasn't the most ceremonial exit. Initially

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Speaker 1: I think, listen, you know you were driven to win

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Speaker 1: the one thing that maybe crossed his mind when he

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Speaker 1: which was his main target outside of Mike Evans and

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Speaker 1: You know what? I actually initially was like, Oh, this

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Speaker 1: try to figure out what my safety can do in

428
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Speaker 1: the back end and hoping he can get somewhere or

429
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Speaker 1: prevent something. You know, you can stop everything at the

430
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Speaker 1: line of script. So if you feel like there's a

431
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Speaker 1: pass rusher there that's legit elite, even if like In's case, well,

432
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Speaker 1: you know, you don't get every play I played against

433
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Speaker 1: the guy that's probably gonna well he is going to

434
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Speaker 1: be in the Hall of Fame. One of the best

435
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Speaker 1: pass rushers ever is Julius. He didn't play every play

436
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Speaker 1: the way you maybe, but I'm telling you now, he's

437
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Speaker 1: screwed up a game a week. I mean, that's just

438
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Speaker 1: what he did because of those one one and a

439
00:20:31,720 --> 00:20:35,520
Speaker 1: half splash plays came on. Could be one of those guys. So,

440
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Speaker 1: I mean, you know, those game changers on the edge,

441
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Speaker 1: if they're available, I think that super ces maybe a

442
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Speaker 1: safety that potentially hard to say he's going to be

443
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Speaker 1: an a racer just there's no rookies coming and doing

444
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Speaker 1: anything that's an a racer. But he is a good player.

445
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Speaker 1: I mean, it's a tough deal. It would be fascinating

446
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Speaker 1: if they do. Indeed, gold Gardner four and then what

447
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Speaker 1: pass rusher is there at is tackle out of the realm.

448
00:20:59,480 --> 00:21:03,000
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, I'm just saying, like, look, I

449
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Speaker 1: hope Beckton doesn't get hurt again or anything like that.

450
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Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know, Fan is not getting any

451
00:21:08,480 --> 00:21:11,359
Speaker 1: younger play phenomenal last year and of course yeah now

452
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Speaker 1: in this moment he's he's there and he's good. But

453
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Speaker 1: you never have enough guys if you can get another piece,

454
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Speaker 1: I don't know too much, especially afore if like that

455
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Speaker 1: that perfect guys like man, you know what he's fallen here,

456
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Speaker 1: and some silly teams take quarterbacks early and just put

457
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Speaker 1: some guys in front of you, like you like both

458
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Speaker 1: of Kuana O'Neil, both both you guys, Yeah, I mean

459
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Speaker 1: they're I think they're both nasty. I mean, and you

460
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Speaker 1: and you see what a good officsive line does for

461
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Speaker 1: a quarterback. I mean, you saw the offensive line of

462
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Speaker 1: the Colts carry them. They should have went into the playoffs,

463
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Speaker 1: you know. But you look at the you know, the

464
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Speaker 1: Cleveland Browns, they have a great offensive line. It just

465
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Speaker 1: makes the quarterback job so much easier. You you can

466
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Speaker 1: run the football, make sure it allows your defense to rest.

467
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Speaker 1: It just is good for your your organization when you

468
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Speaker 1: have a great offensive line that can run the football,

469
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Speaker 1: protect your quarterback, sustained drives. Just dictate the way that

470
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Speaker 1: you're going to play the game. I would never get

471
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Speaker 1: mad at first if you went with a tackle of four,

472
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Speaker 1: you wouldn't have to go tenant receiver in my opinion.

473
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Speaker 1: Now you can slide down or come up a little

474
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Speaker 1: and you can go in those areas and find that

475
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Speaker 1: Now those receivers that we you know, maybe a sky

476
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Speaker 1: More uh Christian one or something like that, those guys

477
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Speaker 1: become better players because of protection purposes. But you think

478
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Speaker 1: about it from the other side, like, look what Cincinnati

479
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Speaker 1: did you know they needed offensive linement. They wouldn't got

480
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Speaker 1: Jamar Chase. And there's there's no there's no question. You know,

481
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Speaker 1: maybe there's enough. You know, you're right, Look, but I'm

482
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Speaker 1: with you. I'm a big line was not good and

483
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Speaker 1: they got there. But I think a lot of people

484
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Speaker 1: think that they could be safe money here, that you're

485
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Speaker 1: gonna go edge for time. You got John Franklin Moyers

486
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Speaker 1: in the mix, you still have Quinnin Williams and Sheldon

487
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Speaker 1: Rank in the middle. You added a former first round

488
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Speaker 1: pick who's familiar with the system and Solomon, So you're

489
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Speaker 1: starting to see the pieces come together the way Robert

490
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Speaker 1: Salo wants to do this thing right right. You love it,

491
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Speaker 1: you love it. You love to see the team come together.

492
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Speaker 1: It's gonna take a couple of years. You always say

493
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Speaker 1: that it's not gonna be the way you wanted the

494
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Speaker 1: first year. But you know what I liked about last

495
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Speaker 1: season is that there are a bunch of youngsters out

496
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Speaker 1: there playing their butts off, no matter what the score was,

497
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Speaker 1: no matter what the situation was. At the end of

498
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Speaker 1: the year, beginning of the year, they were going out

499
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Speaker 1: there and giving it they're all and that's a reflection

500
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Speaker 1: of the coach. And then when you add some more

501
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Speaker 1: talent to that and you get more experience with the

502
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Speaker 1: young guys, you added some superstars with that with the

503
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Speaker 1: same mentality, it's going to cause a lot of problem.

504
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Speaker 1: They're gonna win a lot of games that a lot

505
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Speaker 1: of people don't think they should. You know, so, I

506
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Speaker 1: think that when you add those players, you get Karl

507
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Speaker 1: Losson healthy, you add somebody in the draft, you get

508
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Speaker 1: some more superstars, it's gonna be a problem. You've got

509
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Speaker 1: some of young leaders that we talked all year about

510
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Speaker 1: the two twenty one rookie class, how impressive it was.

511
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Speaker 1: But from your perspective in terms of free agency, how

512
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Speaker 1: key was it getting these guys in here. Yeah, veterans

513
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Speaker 1: with experience, but guys who played in the postseason use

514
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Speaker 1: I'm I just saw the rise with the Bengals from

515
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Speaker 1: two to four and he's playing in the Super Bowl

516
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Speaker 1: with Joe Burrow, uh Lankin. Thomlinson was part of that

517
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Speaker 1: build in San Francisco where they compete in the Super Bowl.

518
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Speaker 1: Last year, they're playing an NFC championship game on the

519
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Speaker 1: other side of the ball. G J. Reid as postseason

520
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Speaker 1: experienced and Jordan White had can walk downstairs inside that

521
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Speaker 1: locker room. He's got a ring. When you get a

522
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Speaker 1: taste of that success, usually good players want more of it.

523
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Speaker 1: And the fact that they've had the track and they

524
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Speaker 1: know how to get there, and they've seen how a

525
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Speaker 1: team can kind of get themselves prepared to go in

526
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Speaker 1: the direction they want to go and achieve greatness. Uh,

527
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Speaker 1: guys start listening, you know, teammates start, You've been there, Like,

528
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Speaker 1: what's it take? You know, Jordan White is going to

529
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Speaker 1: be in a dB room that's thirsty to know what

530
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Speaker 1: it means is to be a winner, like be in

531
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Speaker 1: a position of greatness, and he can offer that to them.

532
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Speaker 1: You know that that's gonna be huge, Just like you

533
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Speaker 1: said those other pieces. Now you're starting to collab really

534
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Speaker 1: good talented players that have won real meaningful games in

535
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Speaker 1: this league, championships, and they can spread that to the

536
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Speaker 1: young players in the roster. I think it's big. What

537
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Speaker 1: do you think of the arms race in the s C.

538
00:25:22,920 --> 00:25:25,320
Speaker 1: Let's go through the quarters. We don't have to evaluate

539
00:25:25,359 --> 00:25:28,160
Speaker 1: every team, but we just throw the names out there. FC.

540
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Speaker 1: He got Josh Allen, the FC North through the Jets,

541
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Speaker 1: by the way battle next year, DeShawn Watson. I was

542
00:25:34,400 --> 00:25:36,919
Speaker 1: thinking all along that yes he would be traded, but

543
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Speaker 1: maybe New Orleans or Atlanta. No, he winds up in Cleveland.

544
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Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson gonna be back healthy for the Baltimore Ravens

545
00:25:45,440 --> 00:25:47,840
Speaker 1: to talk about Joe Burrow and the success he had

546
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Speaker 1: last seasons. Yeah, of course, if you go to the West,

547
00:25:53,840 --> 00:25:57,800
Speaker 1: everybody's got a good quarterback. And even if you don't

548
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Speaker 1: want to say Derek Carr is not a lead, he's

549
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Speaker 1: a very good quarterback. And now he's got I don't

550
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Speaker 1: know all the top two receiver NFL and Dante Adams

551
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Speaker 1: he is thrown to. Russell Wilson has joined the number

552
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Speaker 1: Broncles a f C. We've never seen anything like that

553
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Speaker 1: to me, and that those guys don't matter. We're trying

554
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Speaker 1: to win a division, right, I mean, so it's really

555
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Speaker 1: what's in this division. And clearly the Bills have shown

556
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Speaker 1: us right now that they're the class and they've upgraded

557
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Speaker 1: around this team a little bit to him free agency

558
00:26:24,240 --> 00:26:27,520
Speaker 1: that I felt like they've made themselves a little bit better. So,

559
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Speaker 1: you know, Uh to Uh is a guy that's like

560
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Speaker 1: the Jets are doing. They're putting pieces around this kid

561
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Speaker 1: to see if he can be the guy. They got

562
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Speaker 1: a solid guy that's gonna push him in Teddy Bridge.

563
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Speaker 1: But we all know Teddy he can manage. When you

564
00:26:42,119 --> 00:26:45,359
Speaker 1: can manage a bunch of stars, you can have some success, right,

565
00:26:45,400 --> 00:26:47,440
Speaker 1: so that again you talk about the arms race in

566
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Speaker 1: the division. And then of course new wingol is always

567
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Speaker 1: going to be there. Matt Jones played as well as

568
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Speaker 1: any rookie quarterback in the last several years, and they're

569
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Speaker 1: only going to try to add more around him as well.

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Speaker 1: But look, it's no easy task. Yeah, they're that other

571
00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:02,480
Speaker 1: stuff out there. But when you're playing teams twice a

572
00:27:02,560 --> 00:27:04,440
Speaker 1: year in your division, you're trying to win a division.

573
00:27:04,640 --> 00:27:06,399
Speaker 1: You got to figure out how to match up against

574
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Speaker 1: those guys. And and then when you get to those

575
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Speaker 1: other teams, you have a chance. They beat the Bengals,

576
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Speaker 1: you have a chance when you don't play common the folks,

577
00:27:13,480 --> 00:27:15,080
Speaker 1: you know, because you you're just out of the realm

578
00:27:15,160 --> 00:27:17,960
Speaker 1: because everybody's locked in. All those teams in NFC wasn't

579
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Speaker 1: gonna be locking into their division, right, They're gonna end

580
00:27:20,240 --> 00:27:22,040
Speaker 1: up losing silly games, and maybe they didn't think they're

581
00:27:22,040 --> 00:27:24,879
Speaker 1: gonna lose because you're so focused on the division. I

582
00:27:24,880 --> 00:27:27,200
Speaker 1: think the division is important and it's a tough one.

583
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Speaker 1: This this is it's an outstanding point. Listen, Sali said

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Speaker 1: at the end of the year, the gap between Austin Buffalo,

585
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Speaker 1: it's big. How do you close it? Or you guys

586
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Speaker 1: looking more along the lines of these other three teams

587
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Speaker 1: in the division. You're talking about a Bills team on

588
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Speaker 1: what eleven of one inside the NFCS the last two years. Well,

589
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Speaker 1: you know when you when you were mentioning in all

590
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Speaker 1: those teams, I'm thinking about all the wide receivers you

591
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Speaker 1: know from from each team. You know you you have

592
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Speaker 1: Tyreek Hill and Jalen Waddle in Miami. You know you

593
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Speaker 1: have digs up in up in Buffalo. DeVante Parker just

594
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Speaker 1: signed with New England. You know you're going to need

595
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Speaker 1: some defensive actually need some pass rushers to get to

596
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Speaker 1: the quarterbacks to help flip things in your direction. You're

597
00:28:04,800 --> 00:28:06,680
Speaker 1: also gonna have to put up points. So you know,

598
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Speaker 1: when you look at the two positions that we've been

599
00:28:08,359 --> 00:28:12,080
Speaker 1: talking about for the first round, why receiver, cornerback, pass rusher.

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Speaker 1: You know all these things are going to do nothing

601
00:28:14,080 --> 00:28:16,560
Speaker 1: but health the Jets. You close the gap of quarterbacks.

602
00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:19,720
Speaker 1: You just asked, how do you close the gap? You

603
00:28:19,800 --> 00:28:22,479
Speaker 1: need a josh Own type of player that's making plays

604
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Speaker 1: like that, that's winning games. It's putting up numbers. That's

605
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Speaker 1: not you know, is not the opponents. It does. And look,

606
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Speaker 1: it's a lot of pressure. And that's what this league is,

607
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Speaker 1: man Like, there is pressure for the top guy. When

608
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Speaker 1: I was a first round pick and Chad and Abraham

609
00:28:39,600 --> 00:28:43,920
Speaker 1: and Elise, there was pressure for us to perform period.

610
00:28:44,160 --> 00:28:47,520
Speaker 1: Now it might be told the players differently, might be

611
00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:50,120
Speaker 1: projected to players differently, but when I was here, is

612
00:28:50,160 --> 00:28:53,640
Speaker 1: playing simple. My coach told me we need more. Your

613
00:28:53,720 --> 00:28:56,360
Speaker 1: first round pick, you need to play better. We have

614
00:28:56,520 --> 00:28:59,000
Speaker 1: more expectation out of you. And that was what I

615
00:28:59,080 --> 00:29:02,440
Speaker 1: was told. That hurt your feelings. They may may make

616
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Speaker 1: you scared, or it may raise you up to a

617
00:29:04,800 --> 00:29:07,520
Speaker 1: level that makes you great. But that's kind of how

618
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Speaker 1: it works. Like you, you gotta play better, like all

619
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Speaker 1: these guys from last year, like your Tucker and and

620
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Speaker 1: my car. Great starts, but man, we want more, we

621
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Speaker 1: need more. And it's started to me. Zach has got

622
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Speaker 1: to take leaps and bounds and he's healthy, he's going

623
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Speaker 1: the all season. He's got some weapons. Some players just now,

624
00:29:26,320 --> 00:29:28,680
Speaker 1: not even with the draft. He's got to go out

625
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Speaker 1: there and do whatever he can to better himself. And

626
00:29:32,400 --> 00:29:34,360
Speaker 1: like talking about they're out there throwing. All that stuff

627
00:29:34,480 --> 00:29:36,800
Speaker 1: is great. It's a small piece of the pie. There's

628
00:29:36,840 --> 00:29:38,720
Speaker 1: other things you have to do, and he may be

629
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Speaker 1: doing that, and if it is, that's great. I hope

630
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Speaker 1: he is because he's supposed to. And if he is

631
00:29:42,680 --> 00:29:45,760
Speaker 1: doing those things, he's gonna be fine. But he has

632
00:29:45,880 --> 00:29:48,320
Speaker 1: to take leech and strides because that is the difference

633
00:29:48,360 --> 00:29:52,120
Speaker 1: maker in the NFL quarterback position. All that other stuff

634
00:29:52,200 --> 00:29:54,720
Speaker 1: is great. We need it, pass rushers, all that stuff.

635
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Speaker 1: Just like you mentioned, Joe Barrow got to the Super

636
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Speaker 1: Bowl y because of his offensive line. Hell no, because

637
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Speaker 1: of his offensive mind. You're nice to have it. You

638
00:30:02,560 --> 00:30:05,600
Speaker 1: have the Jets offensive line. Who knows how many jams.

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