1 00:00:01,400 --> 00:00:06,559 Speaker 1: The Jibil Show on demand First Day Up. Jackson is 2 00:00:06,600 --> 00:00:08,440 Speaker 1: on the phone today for a first Aid follow up. 3 00:00:08,480 --> 00:00:12,039 Speaker 1: He's getting ghosted by a girl named Erica Jackson. How 4 00:00:12,080 --> 00:00:14,760 Speaker 1: are you? I'm pretty good? How are you good? Man? 5 00:00:14,880 --> 00:00:18,400 Speaker 1: You sound pretty good to getting ghosted. I don't know 6 00:00:18,440 --> 00:00:21,880 Speaker 1: if it's truly ghosted, but maybe holding off as or 7 00:00:22,000 --> 00:00:25,200 Speaker 1: I hang Honestly, you don't know if you're getting ghosted 8 00:00:25,280 --> 00:00:27,720 Speaker 1: or you don't think you're getting ghosted. No, I don't 9 00:00:27,760 --> 00:00:30,160 Speaker 1: think so. I just think. I mean, in short, he'll 10 00:00:30,200 --> 00:00:32,920 Speaker 1: get into it. But I think we just have a 11 00:00:32,960 --> 00:00:37,000 Speaker 1: pretty strong connection and that scared her a little bit, 12 00:00:37,040 --> 00:00:39,639 Speaker 1: which I totally get. I mean, I kind of get 13 00:00:39,680 --> 00:00:43,040 Speaker 1: that pretty often. So do you think that you scared her? 14 00:00:43,720 --> 00:00:46,199 Speaker 1: Maybe scared her is not the right word. But she 15 00:00:46,320 --> 00:00:51,040 Speaker 1: just said she wasn't currently looking for a relationship right now, 16 00:00:51,080 --> 00:00:53,320 Speaker 1: and I could That's fine, Like I'm kind of figuring 17 00:00:53,360 --> 00:00:55,800 Speaker 1: my own stuff out too. But we had a really 18 00:00:55,840 --> 00:00:59,480 Speaker 1: strong connection, and I think because of that, she's like, 19 00:01:00,080 --> 00:01:02,200 Speaker 1: probably can't hang out with that guy or all you 20 00:01:02,280 --> 00:01:05,520 Speaker 1: know that's around and fall in love. So, so, what 21 00:01:05,640 --> 00:01:07,600 Speaker 1: happened on the date and leading up to the date 22 00:01:07,680 --> 00:01:10,200 Speaker 1: that makes you feel like she was basically having a 23 00:01:10,240 --> 00:01:12,399 Speaker 1: love at first sight moment and was in was fighting it. 24 00:01:14,120 --> 00:01:17,040 Speaker 1: When we first met. We met up at we met 25 00:01:17,120 --> 00:01:19,759 Speaker 1: at this bar. Um there was like a little it's 26 00:01:19,760 --> 00:01:22,080 Speaker 1: like more like at the topics place. They have cocktails, 27 00:01:22,160 --> 00:01:24,880 Speaker 1: you know, all that good stuff. First she came up 28 00:01:24,920 --> 00:01:27,000 Speaker 1: to me really you know, which I thought was pretty cool, 29 00:01:27,560 --> 00:01:30,399 Speaker 1: and we found out that we both loved old fashions. 30 00:01:31,760 --> 00:01:33,640 Speaker 1: And then she was like, well, what book are you reading? 31 00:01:33,640 --> 00:01:35,840 Speaker 1: You know, and so we hit it off a little 32 00:01:35,880 --> 00:01:39,800 Speaker 1: bit about that. Um and uh, you know, she asked 33 00:01:39,800 --> 00:01:42,360 Speaker 1: me about the book. She thought it was intriguing. So 34 00:01:42,560 --> 00:01:44,800 Speaker 1: we hit it off and I was like, well, yeah, 35 00:01:44,880 --> 00:01:47,840 Speaker 1: let me get your number. Um. We ended up so 36 00:01:47,960 --> 00:01:50,520 Speaker 1: basically we was back to the same place. You know. 37 00:01:50,560 --> 00:01:52,560 Speaker 1: We texted for a little bit and I was like, hey, 38 00:01:53,160 --> 00:01:55,760 Speaker 1: after like you know, a couple of weeks some here 39 00:01:55,800 --> 00:01:58,920 Speaker 1: and there texting, but whatever. We were like. I was like, hey, 40 00:01:58,960 --> 00:02:00,680 Speaker 1: you know, I got some three times you want to 41 00:02:00,720 --> 00:02:03,440 Speaker 1: go back out there and uh, you know, get get 42 00:02:03,480 --> 00:02:06,120 Speaker 1: a couple of fashions and like a couple of small plates. 43 00:02:06,120 --> 00:02:09,160 Speaker 1: We got a pretty nice fancy shark hooterie board that 44 00:02:09,200 --> 00:02:14,160 Speaker 1: they were doing. Um, I thought we had some great conversation. Honestly, 45 00:02:14,200 --> 00:02:16,639 Speaker 1: the girl lit up the room. She was a great 46 00:02:17,120 --> 00:02:20,520 Speaker 1: way to say since humor. She asked me about my 47 00:02:20,560 --> 00:02:23,800 Speaker 1: life a little bit, I asked about hers, um, and 48 00:02:23,960 --> 00:02:27,480 Speaker 1: then you know, I didn't I definitely, you know, it 49 00:02:27,520 --> 00:02:29,880 Speaker 1: was during the week, so we didn't stay super late 50 00:02:30,000 --> 00:02:32,079 Speaker 1: or whatever. But like I said, I thought it went great. 51 00:02:32,120 --> 00:02:33,880 Speaker 1: And then I just haven't heard from her since, so, 52 00:02:35,160 --> 00:02:37,200 Speaker 1: you know, to be honest, I think I do know 53 00:02:37,240 --> 00:02:40,200 Speaker 1: why she's ghosting, Like, and if I could just get 54 00:02:40,240 --> 00:02:43,119 Speaker 1: on the seven with her and have, you know, say 55 00:02:43,160 --> 00:02:45,679 Speaker 1: a couple of words, I think, you know, I think 56 00:02:45,760 --> 00:02:50,320 Speaker 1: she'll be comfortable with the connection and uh, you know, 57 00:02:50,360 --> 00:02:52,880 Speaker 1: and be okay with like potentially falling before me down 58 00:02:52,919 --> 00:02:55,720 Speaker 1: the road or even soon. Do you think you know 59 00:02:55,760 --> 00:02:58,919 Speaker 1: why she's ghost Yeah, And like I said, I mentioned 60 00:02:58,960 --> 00:03:01,480 Speaker 1: this at the beginning of time versation. UM, I really 61 00:03:01,520 --> 00:03:05,160 Speaker 1: just think she's scared of the connection that we have 62 00:03:06,520 --> 00:03:10,120 Speaker 1: because I don't think she's had that with anybody else recently, 63 00:03:10,240 --> 00:03:12,040 Speaker 1: you know, at least from what she said, her dating 64 00:03:12,040 --> 00:03:16,720 Speaker 1: experiences worse. So you know, I feel like ultimately she's 65 00:03:16,800 --> 00:03:20,639 Speaker 1: just hesitant to continue to hang out with me for 66 00:03:20,680 --> 00:03:23,840 Speaker 1: fear of like getting in a relationships sooner than she 67 00:03:23,919 --> 00:03:27,520 Speaker 1: wants to interest fall in love too quick. Well, I 68 00:03:27,520 --> 00:03:29,400 Speaker 1: mean this could be a really good thing, you know, 69 00:03:29,800 --> 00:03:33,280 Speaker 1: get these lovers on the right path. You know. The 70 00:03:33,280 --> 00:03:36,000 Speaker 1: thing is is like I kind of I get this often. Um, 71 00:03:36,560 --> 00:03:40,520 Speaker 1: Like most girls don't want to just like mess around 72 00:03:40,560 --> 00:03:42,440 Speaker 1: with me, and they're like immediately they want to be 73 00:03:42,480 --> 00:03:44,640 Speaker 1: with me. And you know, I mean, you know, I 74 00:03:44,760 --> 00:03:48,280 Speaker 1: have a lot of qualities that people really like. Okay, 75 00:03:48,360 --> 00:03:53,560 Speaker 1: so yeah, confidence too, that's good? Well that going for you? Yeah? Yeah, 76 00:03:53,600 --> 00:03:55,800 Speaker 1: all right, Well we'll see if we can figure it 77 00:03:55,800 --> 00:03:57,920 Speaker 1: out for you Jackson. We'll play a song come back, 78 00:03:58,040 --> 00:04:00,240 Speaker 1: and then call her and try to find out why 79 00:04:00,240 --> 00:04:04,920 Speaker 1: she's ghosted. Okay, what's your first day follow up? Next? 80 00:04:05,520 --> 00:04:07,760 Speaker 1: If you're just joining us for today's first date follow up? 81 00:04:07,960 --> 00:04:10,800 Speaker 1: Jackson is on the phone, and Jackson's a bit of 82 00:04:10,800 --> 00:04:13,120 Speaker 1: a catch, and he's not going to call back from 83 00:04:13,160 --> 00:04:15,960 Speaker 1: a date he went on with a woman named Erica Jackson. 84 00:04:15,960 --> 00:04:17,760 Speaker 1: Real quick. For anybody who's just joining us, why don't 85 00:04:17,800 --> 00:04:21,200 Speaker 1: you give us a recap of your situation? Yeah, you know, 86 00:04:21,240 --> 00:04:23,919 Speaker 1: I met this girl at this cool place that you know, 87 00:04:24,000 --> 00:04:26,040 Speaker 1: we both go too we hit it off on a 88 00:04:26,160 --> 00:04:29,400 Speaker 1: book I'm reading um that we like old fashions with 89 00:04:29,520 --> 00:04:32,400 Speaker 1: Basil Hayden. I decided, you know, after a little while 90 00:04:32,440 --> 00:04:35,120 Speaker 1: to meet back up there with her. We did. We 91 00:04:35,160 --> 00:04:37,880 Speaker 1: had a fancy shark hoot. It was fired. We had 92 00:04:38,279 --> 00:04:42,919 Speaker 1: great two old fashions, had great conversation, and you know, 93 00:04:43,000 --> 00:04:45,599 Speaker 1: I thought I was gonna, you know, lead to another one. 94 00:04:45,640 --> 00:04:49,040 Speaker 1: And I just haven't heard from her, and like I said, 95 00:04:49,080 --> 00:04:51,240 Speaker 1: like I you know, I think I don't know if 96 00:04:51,240 --> 00:04:54,040 Speaker 1: I'm being ghosted. I think that she's just scared to 97 00:04:54,080 --> 00:04:56,040 Speaker 1: fall in love with me because she said she didn't 98 00:04:56,080 --> 00:04:59,000 Speaker 1: want to get into a relationship just yet with anyone. 99 00:04:59,080 --> 00:05:01,600 Speaker 1: And I I really just need to probably get her 100 00:05:01,640 --> 00:05:03,800 Speaker 1: on the phone, because I know I can make this happen. 101 00:05:04,360 --> 00:05:06,440 Speaker 1: All right, Jackson, We're gonna call her right now. Are 102 00:05:06,440 --> 00:05:07,920 Speaker 1: you ready. We'll see if we can figure out why 103 00:05:07,920 --> 00:05:22,280 Speaker 1: she's ghost Let's do it, all right? Hello, Hi, man, 104 00:05:22,279 --> 00:05:25,880 Speaker 1: I speak to Erica. Please. This is she Erica. How 105 00:05:25,920 --> 00:05:27,920 Speaker 1: are you? My name is jew Bowl from a radio 106 00:05:27,960 --> 00:05:31,160 Speaker 1: show called The Jewel Show. He's not by himself. Erica. 107 00:05:31,240 --> 00:05:34,760 Speaker 1: I'm Nina, I'm here. It's you. Hi, Annavatoria. I'm sorry, 108 00:05:34,760 --> 00:05:37,600 Speaker 1: what is this about. We do a segment on our 109 00:05:37,600 --> 00:05:39,480 Speaker 1: show and it's called the first Date follow Up where 110 00:05:39,480 --> 00:05:41,400 Speaker 1: if you go out on a date with somebody and 111 00:05:41,520 --> 00:05:44,360 Speaker 1: you end up getting ghosted, that person can email us 112 00:05:44,360 --> 00:05:46,440 Speaker 1: to get you on the phone and ask why you're 113 00:05:46,440 --> 00:05:48,840 Speaker 1: ghosting them. And we got an email about you from 114 00:05:48,880 --> 00:05:50,880 Speaker 1: one of our listeners. They say that you went out 115 00:05:50,920 --> 00:05:52,360 Speaker 1: on a date and now you're not calling them back. 116 00:05:53,800 --> 00:05:57,120 Speaker 1: Oh you did? Yes? Do you know who that is? 117 00:05:58,160 --> 00:06:04,360 Speaker 1: I think so? Yeah, his name's Jackson. Is that the 118 00:06:04,360 --> 00:06:08,520 Speaker 1: only person you're ghosting? I wouldn't really consider it ghosting. 119 00:06:08,760 --> 00:06:12,919 Speaker 1: I think it's just something fizzling out. I mean, it 120 00:06:12,960 --> 00:06:15,920 Speaker 1: never was anything. So why do you think that the 121 00:06:15,960 --> 00:06:20,200 Speaker 1: fizzlists started? Okay, so it is him, Yes it is yeah, 122 00:06:21,480 --> 00:06:25,200 Speaker 1: uh huh okay, yeah. I mean I would say that 123 00:06:25,240 --> 00:06:28,360 Speaker 1: we had a nice little connection at first, do you know, 124 00:06:28,440 --> 00:06:33,080 Speaker 1: with our cocktails and stuff. It was fun. But oh 125 00:06:33,160 --> 00:06:35,440 Speaker 1: my gosh, just the more I talked to him, the 126 00:06:35,520 --> 00:06:39,240 Speaker 1: more just crazy things. He started saying that we're just 127 00:06:39,520 --> 00:06:44,360 Speaker 1: absolutely ridiculous, like what thought out lying? He was just 128 00:06:44,400 --> 00:06:47,760 Speaker 1: so like grandy oath. I mean he said that his 129 00:06:48,800 --> 00:06:54,040 Speaker 1: something like great great grandfather was the King of Egypt. 130 00:06:54,160 --> 00:06:56,240 Speaker 1: I mean, it was absurd. Do you know that he 131 00:06:56,279 --> 00:06:58,120 Speaker 1: was lying about that? We talked to Jackson. He seemed 132 00:06:58,160 --> 00:06:59,600 Speaker 1: like a cool guy when you just telling us about 133 00:06:59,600 --> 00:07:04,440 Speaker 1: your date. M Yeah, well, I guess that's his initial charm. 134 00:07:04,640 --> 00:07:08,279 Speaker 1: But yeah, he told me that his great grandfather's name 135 00:07:08,320 --> 00:07:10,600 Speaker 1: was Omari and he was the king of Egypt. And 136 00:07:11,080 --> 00:07:13,400 Speaker 1: you know, I thought it was kind of crazy, but 137 00:07:13,480 --> 00:07:16,200 Speaker 1: you know, I did my research when I got back home. No, 138 00:07:16,560 --> 00:07:20,480 Speaker 1: there's no king Omari in Egypt. There's just not It's 139 00:07:20,480 --> 00:07:24,240 Speaker 1: just way too strange. What did you say to that? 140 00:07:24,560 --> 00:07:27,440 Speaker 1: You know, like what happened? I believe him that's a 141 00:07:27,600 --> 00:07:33,200 Speaker 1: really big lie about I mean, he certainly acted like 142 00:07:33,280 --> 00:07:37,360 Speaker 1: he was entitled to it. What does that mean? He 143 00:07:37,520 --> 00:07:42,200 Speaker 1: was very shall we say confident. Confidence can be sexy 144 00:07:43,320 --> 00:07:47,320 Speaker 1: too much. Honestly, I really think he was just overcompensating. 145 00:07:47,520 --> 00:07:50,760 Speaker 1: Didn't feel, for some reason, comfortable enough to be himself, 146 00:07:50,760 --> 00:07:53,760 Speaker 1: so he said all these other things like, oh, my 147 00:07:53,840 --> 00:07:58,240 Speaker 1: great grandfather's the king of Egypt, and well, my uncle 148 00:07:58,480 --> 00:08:05,680 Speaker 1: he is the owner of the jelly Belly company. To 149 00:08:05,720 --> 00:08:09,040 Speaker 1: be honest, just after that, I really had no desire 150 00:08:09,080 --> 00:08:11,920 Speaker 1: to talk to him anymore. Well, Erica, You're probably not 151 00:08:11,920 --> 00:08:14,480 Speaker 1: gonna like this then, because Jackson's actually on the phone. 152 00:08:14,480 --> 00:08:15,880 Speaker 1: He's been listening this whole time, and he wants to 153 00:08:15,880 --> 00:08:24,240 Speaker 1: talk to you whole time. So anyways, first, those emails 154 00:08:24,280 --> 00:08:28,480 Speaker 1: are real, and also it was not a Marii, it 155 00:08:28,640 --> 00:08:32,240 Speaker 1: was Omere, So I don't even know if you typed 156 00:08:32,320 --> 00:08:36,040 Speaker 1: in the right thing, but like it sounds like you 157 00:08:36,080 --> 00:08:40,000 Speaker 1: didn't really do your research in the right way because 158 00:08:40,040 --> 00:08:44,720 Speaker 1: you would have totally found my family's lineage in Egypt 159 00:08:45,120 --> 00:08:47,920 Speaker 1: and they're not even king, they're pharaohs. And I said 160 00:08:47,960 --> 00:08:50,720 Speaker 1: that in the first place, so clearly you have no 161 00:08:51,360 --> 00:08:55,320 Speaker 1: confidence in me, so I had to have all the 162 00:08:55,360 --> 00:08:58,720 Speaker 1: confidence because like, you know, you don't even believe in 163 00:08:58,800 --> 00:09:01,760 Speaker 1: me act And you did say that you believe that 164 00:09:01,840 --> 00:09:05,480 Speaker 1: she did have feelings for you, though I know she does. 165 00:09:05,559 --> 00:09:09,480 Speaker 1: She's even she's just dialing more into that, saying that 166 00:09:09,480 --> 00:09:11,760 Speaker 1: it's not true about all this stuff, but it's really 167 00:09:11,800 --> 00:09:14,800 Speaker 1: because she just has feelings for me. So like, okay, 168 00:09:14,840 --> 00:09:17,679 Speaker 1: but like, do you even hear yourself? Just the way 169 00:09:17,920 --> 00:09:22,359 Speaker 1: you're talking about yourself is just so unbelievably self important, 170 00:09:22,559 --> 00:09:27,560 Speaker 1: Like how dare I not believe your inheritance? And like 171 00:09:27,679 --> 00:09:32,160 Speaker 1: that stuff shouldn't matter. You can't say you're giving someone 172 00:09:32,400 --> 00:09:35,920 Speaker 1: the benefit of the doubt when you're like gave them 173 00:09:35,920 --> 00:09:40,839 Speaker 1: the benefits fifteen seconds. Like you literally what probably got 174 00:09:40,840 --> 00:09:44,319 Speaker 1: in your uber and like went on to Google search, 175 00:09:44,360 --> 00:09:46,480 Speaker 1: Like this just doesn't even make sense, Like you know, 176 00:09:46,520 --> 00:09:51,640 Speaker 1: we had a real connection. Oh my gosh, Okay, clearly 177 00:09:51,720 --> 00:09:54,720 Speaker 1: we're not on the same page here. Like I said, 178 00:09:54,800 --> 00:09:57,760 Speaker 1: I do have like a pretty good amount of the 179 00:09:58,400 --> 00:10:04,240 Speaker 1: inheritance covered along again with the inheritance, I'm just saying 180 00:10:04,280 --> 00:10:06,000 Speaker 1: I thought you said you're looking for like a stable 181 00:10:06,040 --> 00:10:10,040 Speaker 1: guy and everything. So no, I said, I wasn't looking 182 00:10:10,080 --> 00:10:13,040 Speaker 1: for anything serious right now. And also, by the way, 183 00:10:13,080 --> 00:10:16,199 Speaker 1: a stable guy would not feel the need to reassure 184 00:10:16,240 --> 00:10:20,800 Speaker 1: me that he's so stable. Oh here, come on, just 185 00:10:20,840 --> 00:10:24,000 Speaker 1: like I mean, you're only lying to yourself at this point. 186 00:10:24,040 --> 00:10:27,920 Speaker 1: Like I don't buy it. They don't buy it. Like really, 187 00:10:28,000 --> 00:10:30,800 Speaker 1: like I know you're feeling for me, and I know 188 00:10:30,840 --> 00:10:33,120 Speaker 1: it scares you that I come from royalty and like 189 00:10:33,280 --> 00:10:35,680 Speaker 1: you could be an heiress for that, but like you 190 00:10:35,800 --> 00:10:38,680 Speaker 1: really just you know, you need to just dig deep 191 00:10:38,720 --> 00:10:44,960 Speaker 1: within yourself right now, you know, and and really get 192 00:10:45,240 --> 00:10:49,520 Speaker 1: in your heart and then just give this a real chance, 193 00:10:49,520 --> 00:10:51,679 Speaker 1: because I know you want to. You and I both 194 00:10:52,080 --> 00:10:54,400 Speaker 1: know that you want to. Yeah, Erica, would you like 195 00:10:54,440 --> 00:10:58,480 Speaker 1: another date with Jackson? We'll pay for it. Yeah. No, 196 00:10:58,720 --> 00:11:00,920 Speaker 1: And actually I have to go right now. I have 197 00:11:00,960 --> 00:11:08,240 Speaker 1: somewhere to be And she hung up. Oh jack she took. 198 00:11:08,440 --> 00:11:10,600 Speaker 1: She's gonna call me back. I'm pretty certain of it. 199 00:11:10,720 --> 00:11:12,760 Speaker 1: But are you sure your want her to call you back? 200 00:11:13,840 --> 00:11:16,559 Speaker 1: I mean, you know, just a little uh Russell and 201 00:11:16,640 --> 00:11:20,680 Speaker 1: Tussles has never heard anything true. Chivalry isn't dead, as 202 00:11:20,720 --> 00:11:23,760 Speaker 1: they Yeah, I told you, I come from royalty court. 203 00:11:23,840 --> 00:11:26,560 Speaker 1: Women around The Jebel Show on demand