1 00:00:05,600 --> 00:00:08,239 Speaker 1: Hey everyone, thanks for joining us on Table for two. 2 00:00:08,840 --> 00:00:12,920 Speaker 1: We've done twenty five incredible interviews this year with some 3 00:00:12,960 --> 00:00:16,880 Speaker 1: of the world's most fascinating people. We've shared delicious food, 4 00:00:17,360 --> 00:00:21,320 Speaker 1: intimate stories, and a few glasses of rose at wonderful 5 00:00:21,320 --> 00:00:25,320 Speaker 1: restaurants in LA and New York. Today, we're looking back 6 00:00:25,360 --> 00:00:27,520 Speaker 1: at some of the best moments from the first season 7 00:00:27,560 --> 00:00:30,360 Speaker 1: of the podcast. When we come together for a meal 8 00:00:30,480 --> 00:00:33,920 Speaker 1: with our guest, our conversations naturally drift towards some of 9 00:00:33,960 --> 00:00:38,680 Speaker 1: the same big topics their lives growing up, harnessing creativity, 10 00:00:38,960 --> 00:00:42,400 Speaker 1: and how they broke through to success. So if it's 11 00:00:42,479 --> 00:00:45,879 Speaker 1: lunchtime where you are, grab something to eat and of 12 00:00:45,960 --> 00:00:49,519 Speaker 1: course a glass of rose, and enjoy some highlights from 13 00:00:49,520 --> 00:00:52,480 Speaker 1: our first season. We'll be back soon with even more 14 00:00:52,520 --> 00:00:57,200 Speaker 1: interviews and great meals. I'm Bruce Bosi and this is 15 00:00:57,280 --> 00:01:10,640 Speaker 1: my podcast Table for Two. We've had some fantastic interviews 16 00:01:10,640 --> 00:01:12,800 Speaker 1: this year, and we've sat down for lunch with everyone 17 00:01:12,840 --> 00:01:15,120 Speaker 1: from Mindy Kaling to Jon bon Jovi. 18 00:01:15,040 --> 00:01:19,360 Speaker 2: To Sienna Miller. Are you going to take that home? 19 00:01:19,520 --> 00:01:21,840 Speaker 2: I mean you kind of should. Protein is protein? 20 00:01:22,360 --> 00:01:24,319 Speaker 3: I feel like I can't leave the Sunset Tower with 21 00:01:24,400 --> 00:01:26,440 Speaker 3: a doggy back from this, I feel like it's not 22 00:01:26,480 --> 00:01:27,120 Speaker 3: a good look. 23 00:01:27,560 --> 00:01:29,760 Speaker 2: Although I would I would do that if you weren't here. 24 00:01:30,560 --> 00:01:32,920 Speaker 1: When you're up there and you are looking at eighty 25 00:01:33,000 --> 00:01:35,280 Speaker 1: thousand people, what are you looking at? 26 00:01:35,480 --> 00:01:37,920 Speaker 2: Numbers never mattered to me. I wanted to be great 27 00:01:37,959 --> 00:01:39,679 Speaker 2: for fifteen or fifty thousand. 28 00:01:40,280 --> 00:01:42,800 Speaker 1: I always just wanted to be the best I could 29 00:01:42,920 --> 00:01:44,679 Speaker 1: possibly be in a club. 30 00:01:44,720 --> 00:01:46,840 Speaker 2: I wanted to kill you in a stadium. 31 00:01:46,880 --> 00:01:47,920 Speaker 3: I still want to kill you. 32 00:01:48,640 --> 00:01:50,440 Speaker 2: You heard the one who said maybe some people were 33 00:01:50,480 --> 00:01:53,280 Speaker 2: just douchebacks. I thought it was. I knew I loved 34 00:01:53,280 --> 00:01:56,920 Speaker 2: you at that moment. I said, Oh, he's my friend forever. Today, 35 00:01:57,120 --> 00:02:00,240 Speaker 2: today we're here your career, a very nice restaurant that 36 00:02:00,280 --> 00:02:02,080 Speaker 2: you love it too. Oh my goodness, I love it. 37 00:02:02,160 --> 00:02:03,840 Speaker 1: I mean the minute I said I was having lunch 38 00:02:03,920 --> 00:02:06,600 Speaker 1: with the way to Michael is. 39 00:02:06,640 --> 00:02:08,320 Speaker 4: Like, yeah, yeah, I come here all the time. 40 00:02:08,440 --> 00:02:09,440 Speaker 2: The food is really good. 41 00:02:10,320 --> 00:02:12,720 Speaker 1: Now I call you the brad Pit of American historian, 42 00:02:13,240 --> 00:02:16,240 Speaker 1: just like we are sitting with Doug Brinkley, the brad 43 00:02:16,680 --> 00:02:18,080 Speaker 1: of American Historians. 44 00:02:18,480 --> 00:02:20,440 Speaker 5: You know, I'm a problem solver. 45 00:02:21,000 --> 00:02:22,040 Speaker 2: You are a problem. 46 00:02:22,080 --> 00:02:24,800 Speaker 5: So I'm a person that gets that stuff off my desk. 47 00:02:25,120 --> 00:02:27,799 Speaker 5: If someone's doing something that's just bullshit. 48 00:02:27,880 --> 00:02:30,600 Speaker 4: I'm like the person that calls bullshit. Right, we are 49 00:02:30,720 --> 00:02:31,280 Speaker 4: very close. 50 00:02:31,480 --> 00:02:34,400 Speaker 2: We were all sixteen eighteen months apart. 51 00:02:34,720 --> 00:02:35,440 Speaker 6: Five sets of. 52 00:02:35,400 --> 00:02:37,040 Speaker 7: Hot curlers, five sets. 53 00:02:36,840 --> 00:02:40,160 Speaker 8: Of you know what I mean, boxes of Tampa everywhere, 54 00:02:40,400 --> 00:02:44,040 Speaker 8: like our whole house with curlers and tampas and penny hugs. 55 00:02:45,320 --> 00:02:51,360 Speaker 2: Curlers, cracks. That's them. That's the namore. 56 00:02:52,480 --> 00:02:55,160 Speaker 1: I always say in the advocacy work that I do. 57 00:02:55,240 --> 00:02:57,839 Speaker 4: Now, you have to wake up every day optimistic. 58 00:02:58,040 --> 00:03:00,520 Speaker 9: Because we're going to have a lot of downtime and 59 00:03:00,600 --> 00:03:04,000 Speaker 9: a lot of downturns and a lot of nose that 60 00:03:04,080 --> 00:03:06,320 Speaker 9: you have to just keep pushing forward. 61 00:03:07,120 --> 00:03:09,440 Speaker 10: There's just a little bandstand and kind of a guest 62 00:03:09,440 --> 00:03:12,440 Speaker 10: house at Ringos. They're celebrating the birthday and suddenly there's 63 00:03:13,080 --> 00:03:17,200 Speaker 10: David Gilmour, Eric Clapton, Don Henley, Glen Fry, Joe Walsh, 64 00:03:17,760 --> 00:03:20,519 Speaker 10: Paul McCartney and Palm Tried and grabs the mike and 65 00:03:20,560 --> 00:03:22,600 Speaker 10: says and we're naming this band the Beagles. 66 00:03:23,320 --> 00:03:23,560 Speaker 4: Right. 67 00:03:24,440 --> 00:03:26,720 Speaker 1: There's something I read that you said, which is what 68 00:03:26,760 --> 00:03:29,919 Speaker 1: this is all about, and I'm gonna read it. It's abbreviated, 69 00:03:29,919 --> 00:03:33,040 Speaker 1: but you said happiness to me is good conversation. 70 00:03:32,639 --> 00:03:33,400 Speaker 5: And lots of laughter. 71 00:03:34,160 --> 00:03:37,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's what we're having today, right. I usually have 72 00:03:37,880 --> 00:03:39,600 Speaker 4: that with you anytime I see it. 73 00:03:39,720 --> 00:03:44,720 Speaker 11: We do because you like to be Pete On from 74 00:03:44,720 --> 00:03:45,280 Speaker 11: Morris Kennedy. 75 00:03:45,320 --> 00:03:46,040 Speaker 2: We don't know about that. 76 00:03:46,600 --> 00:03:47,080 Speaker 6: What do you mean? 77 00:03:47,360 --> 00:03:49,280 Speaker 12: He goes, well, you're wearing a yellow bandana. 78 00:03:49,320 --> 00:03:52,160 Speaker 2: That that means you like to be Pete On? Ricardo, 79 00:03:52,200 --> 00:03:52,880 Speaker 2: We are done. 80 00:03:53,680 --> 00:03:58,400 Speaker 1: He has dipped and dunked his bread into my post box. 81 00:04:00,920 --> 00:04:03,400 Speaker 2: You have to come to yees so you can get 82 00:04:03,440 --> 00:04:03,880 Speaker 2: the table. 83 00:04:04,440 --> 00:04:07,560 Speaker 1: No, did you hear that he has to come to 84 00:04:07,600 --> 00:04:09,160 Speaker 1: dinner so we get a table? 85 00:04:09,600 --> 00:04:10,240 Speaker 2: Absolutely not. 86 00:04:11,080 --> 00:04:12,080 Speaker 12: Are you having a rose? 87 00:04:13,000 --> 00:04:13,240 Speaker 11: God? 88 00:04:13,280 --> 00:04:16,440 Speaker 4: How divine? I love you having lunch every. 89 00:04:16,279 --> 00:04:21,800 Speaker 1: Single day, which means now we're going to be a 90 00:04:21,839 --> 00:04:23,040 Speaker 1: couple of so you know. 91 00:04:23,120 --> 00:04:23,560 Speaker 4: It is on. 92 00:04:32,120 --> 00:04:35,279 Speaker 1: Let's dive into some longer stories as well. Our guest 93 00:04:35,400 --> 00:04:39,440 Speaker 1: early experiences are pivotal to the actors, writers, and designers 94 00:04:39,480 --> 00:04:43,000 Speaker 1: they've become. In this section, we'll hear from Matthew Broderick, 95 00:04:43,640 --> 00:04:49,000 Speaker 1: John Ham, Chelsea Handler, and Rita Wilson. What was it 96 00:04:49,080 --> 00:04:51,080 Speaker 1: like growing up in New York City? Your kid in 97 00:04:51,120 --> 00:04:53,440 Speaker 1: New York which was different, you know than it is 98 00:04:53,480 --> 00:04:54,400 Speaker 1: now for your kids. 99 00:04:54,520 --> 00:04:57,159 Speaker 2: Yeah, it sure was. Let's see. I grew up on 100 00:04:57,760 --> 00:05:00,320 Speaker 2: Washington Square North. I know, I can't believe them. 101 00:05:00,320 --> 00:05:02,039 Speaker 1: I always think of you when I passed by that street. 102 00:05:02,040 --> 00:05:03,880 Speaker 1: It's a series of brownstone. 103 00:05:03,680 --> 00:05:06,839 Speaker 13: Yeah, we were in the one not brown zone, the 104 00:05:06,880 --> 00:05:09,600 Speaker 13: one like apartment shabby apartment building on that block. 105 00:05:10,480 --> 00:05:11,960 Speaker 2: It was us. 106 00:05:12,240 --> 00:05:15,080 Speaker 13: But I was born on Ninth Street and Fifth Avenue 107 00:05:15,200 --> 00:05:17,720 Speaker 13: in a very small apartment with my two We were 108 00:05:17,720 --> 00:05:19,440 Speaker 13: all in one room, me and my two sisters. 109 00:05:20,040 --> 00:05:23,039 Speaker 2: Wow, you were born in No, I was born in 110 00:05:23,080 --> 00:05:24,200 Speaker 2: the hospital, I say. 111 00:05:24,680 --> 00:05:28,039 Speaker 13: But I was taken in my blanket to Ninth Street 112 00:05:28,320 --> 00:05:31,280 Speaker 13: until I was four, and then I moved. The big 113 00:05:31,320 --> 00:05:35,880 Speaker 13: move was to Washington was two blocks down Fifth and Uh. 114 00:05:36,200 --> 00:05:39,400 Speaker 2: Then we had our own bedroom. So that's where I 115 00:05:39,440 --> 00:05:43,080 Speaker 2: really grew up. The village was the park was. There 116 00:05:43,120 --> 00:05:44,960 Speaker 2: was bongos and drums all day. 117 00:05:45,080 --> 00:05:45,200 Speaker 14: You know. 118 00:05:45,320 --> 00:05:47,600 Speaker 13: We had some windows facing the park. There was a 119 00:05:47,640 --> 00:05:51,360 Speaker 13: lot of music all the time. There was less like rules. 120 00:05:51,760 --> 00:05:55,279 Speaker 2: It was opened. All my stuff was going crazy. Yeah, 121 00:05:55,320 --> 00:05:55,839 Speaker 2: it wasn't. 122 00:05:56,279 --> 00:05:58,720 Speaker 1: And because you faced the park when it got dark, 123 00:05:59,279 --> 00:06:01,320 Speaker 1: it was dark on the other side. It's like normally 124 00:06:01,400 --> 00:06:03,279 Speaker 1: there's two sides of the street that have lights, so 125 00:06:03,560 --> 00:06:04,600 Speaker 1: could get a little dicey. 126 00:06:05,400 --> 00:06:06,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely. 127 00:06:06,240 --> 00:06:07,040 Speaker 1: Did you get mugged? 128 00:06:07,080 --> 00:06:11,240 Speaker 13: I got mugged often all through the village. I mugged 129 00:06:11,520 --> 00:06:15,080 Speaker 13: all over the village. Really en Times Square area. Come 130 00:06:15,160 --> 00:06:16,920 Speaker 13: on Upper West Side. 131 00:06:17,440 --> 00:06:20,880 Speaker 1: Explain to the listener, because I got mugged once on 132 00:06:20,960 --> 00:06:22,960 Speaker 1: Third Avenue and they were like, we're going to shove 133 00:06:22,960 --> 00:06:25,880 Speaker 1: your head through this like window, give us when I 134 00:06:25,920 --> 00:06:26,800 Speaker 1: have like five bucks. 135 00:06:26,839 --> 00:06:28,920 Speaker 13: It was like nineteen I never had any money and 136 00:06:28,960 --> 00:06:30,200 Speaker 13: people will constantly wanted it. 137 00:06:30,560 --> 00:06:34,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, what what was the target over you that you 138 00:06:34,160 --> 00:06:36,279 Speaker 1: think that you were constantly getting mugged? 139 00:06:37,279 --> 00:06:40,520 Speaker 13: I think a young guy, you know, this is like 140 00:06:40,640 --> 00:06:42,240 Speaker 13: I'm talking like twelve, you know. 141 00:06:42,440 --> 00:06:44,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's when an absolutee me too. 142 00:06:44,720 --> 00:06:47,400 Speaker 13: And it was mostly other boys, you know, just being 143 00:06:47,480 --> 00:06:51,080 Speaker 13: bullies and you know, getting money, you know, lunch money 144 00:06:51,160 --> 00:06:54,479 Speaker 13: or something like that, but sometimes somewhat scary. 145 00:06:54,640 --> 00:06:55,039 Speaker 2: Yeah. 146 00:06:55,200 --> 00:06:58,880 Speaker 13: You know, me and my friend Garo were skateboarding in 147 00:06:58,960 --> 00:07:03,200 Speaker 13: Central Park once and a massive gang came flying out 148 00:07:03,279 --> 00:07:05,960 Speaker 13: and took our skateboards and I got whacked in the 149 00:07:05,960 --> 00:07:09,000 Speaker 13: head with a some sort of stick. That's the only 150 00:07:09,040 --> 00:07:11,400 Speaker 13: time I got kind of worked, so you know, it 151 00:07:11,480 --> 00:07:14,200 Speaker 13: was no not a joke and thank god, you know, 152 00:07:14,240 --> 00:07:17,600 Speaker 13: we all survived it. But but and most of them 153 00:07:17,640 --> 00:07:19,680 Speaker 13: were not like that. They were more intimidating. 154 00:07:19,680 --> 00:07:22,280 Speaker 2: I'm going to put your head through the glass, you know, 155 00:07:22,480 --> 00:07:23,240 Speaker 2: give me what you got. 156 00:07:23,360 --> 00:07:25,600 Speaker 13: Or you get on the subway and somebody would sit 157 00:07:25,680 --> 00:07:27,760 Speaker 13: next to you and put their arm around you rather 158 00:07:27,840 --> 00:07:30,640 Speaker 13: aggressively and say, you know, what's in your pocket? 159 00:07:31,600 --> 00:07:32,120 Speaker 2: What's your name? 160 00:07:32,120 --> 00:07:32,320 Speaker 4: Where? 161 00:07:32,440 --> 00:07:34,400 Speaker 2: You know, just be like asking you a lot of questions. 162 00:07:34,480 --> 00:07:37,280 Speaker 13: Yeah, just waiting praying for the train to come out 163 00:07:37,320 --> 00:07:38,760 Speaker 13: of the tunnel on the platform. 164 00:07:39,000 --> 00:07:40,640 Speaker 2: You know, I still remember that. 165 00:07:40,760 --> 00:07:43,280 Speaker 1: I mean, don't you think a skill set is born 166 00:07:43,360 --> 00:07:46,280 Speaker 1: from being a kid in New York? Your parents are not. 167 00:07:46,440 --> 00:07:49,920 Speaker 1: They're doing their thing, they trust the world, and you're surviving. 168 00:07:50,200 --> 00:07:50,720 Speaker 2: It's true. 169 00:07:50,840 --> 00:07:53,840 Speaker 13: Yeah, back then they weren't as at least it didn't 170 00:07:53,880 --> 00:07:56,320 Speaker 13: feel like it. They weren't as watchful as we are 171 00:07:56,440 --> 00:07:57,119 Speaker 13: to our kids. 172 00:07:57,160 --> 00:07:57,360 Speaker 9: You know. 173 00:07:57,440 --> 00:07:59,920 Speaker 2: It wasn't no, they would not watch for at all 174 00:08:00,040 --> 00:08:00,680 Speaker 2: this speeches. 175 00:08:00,920 --> 00:08:02,600 Speaker 13: Yeah, they were kind of like, I'd love to go 176 00:08:02,640 --> 00:08:05,040 Speaker 13: to the park and come back in time for dinner, 177 00:08:05,280 --> 00:08:05,840 Speaker 13: and that was it. 178 00:08:05,920 --> 00:08:07,880 Speaker 1: Would you even come back and say I was mugged 179 00:08:07,880 --> 00:08:10,200 Speaker 1: today on the subway or just once or twice. 180 00:08:10,320 --> 00:08:13,720 Speaker 13: Yeah, sometimes like a police officer would come to our 181 00:08:13,760 --> 00:08:16,360 Speaker 13: school and give us a talk. You know, how to 182 00:08:16,440 --> 00:08:20,600 Speaker 13: react properly when you're being muggled, right, And he said, 183 00:08:20,800 --> 00:08:23,720 Speaker 13: always bring money with you. Don't go out with no 184 00:08:23,840 --> 00:08:27,840 Speaker 13: money and immediately give it up. And try to make 185 00:08:27,920 --> 00:08:29,600 Speaker 13: the experience. 186 00:08:29,080 --> 00:08:30,280 Speaker 2: As fast as possible. 187 00:08:30,400 --> 00:08:35,320 Speaker 13: More time you're haggling or discussing, more time you're in 188 00:08:35,360 --> 00:08:36,760 Speaker 13: the situation the worst. 189 00:08:36,800 --> 00:08:39,360 Speaker 2: I always remembered that, try to have it. 190 00:08:39,440 --> 00:08:43,679 Speaker 13: That's a good conclusion, even if the conclusion is your 191 00:08:43,720 --> 00:08:44,160 Speaker 13: own death. 192 00:08:44,240 --> 00:08:45,600 Speaker 2: Do it as quickly as possible. 193 00:08:55,480 --> 00:08:57,280 Speaker 1: When I was thinking about you, I was like, you know, 194 00:08:57,280 --> 00:08:59,400 Speaker 1: did you ever have your heart broken in Yeah? 195 00:08:59,520 --> 00:09:02,880 Speaker 14: For sure. Everybody has a version of whatever pain to 196 00:09:03,000 --> 00:09:04,719 Speaker 14: go through in life. And I didn't grow up a 197 00:09:04,760 --> 00:09:07,800 Speaker 14: lot of money. I grew up with very little money. 198 00:09:07,840 --> 00:09:09,920 Speaker 14: In fact, I was raised until I was ten years 199 00:09:09,920 --> 00:09:12,880 Speaker 14: old by my mom as a single mom. She was 200 00:09:13,400 --> 00:09:16,120 Speaker 14: got divorced when I was a little kid, and then 201 00:09:16,920 --> 00:09:19,080 Speaker 14: she died when I was ten, and so then I 202 00:09:19,080 --> 00:09:21,360 Speaker 14: had to go live with my dad, who was a 203 00:09:21,360 --> 00:09:24,680 Speaker 14: great guy, but not a well not didn't have the 204 00:09:24,760 --> 00:09:27,200 Speaker 14: capacity to kind of raise a kid. So then I 205 00:09:27,240 --> 00:09:30,240 Speaker 14: was raised by the community, and that was the school 206 00:09:30,240 --> 00:09:32,640 Speaker 14: that I went to. So there was a lot of 207 00:09:32,640 --> 00:09:37,200 Speaker 14: like you know, kind of whatever emotions and experiences to 208 00:09:37,280 --> 00:09:40,000 Speaker 14: unpack from from just that over the course of a 209 00:09:40,040 --> 00:09:42,640 Speaker 14: lifetime being raised by a single mom and an only 210 00:09:42,880 --> 00:09:44,800 Speaker 14: being an only child. I had two half sisters, but 211 00:09:44,840 --> 00:09:46,280 Speaker 14: they were out of the picture when I was. When 212 00:09:46,320 --> 00:09:50,679 Speaker 14: I was being raised by my mom, the world was opportunity, 213 00:09:50,800 --> 00:09:52,280 Speaker 14: you know. So it was like, go find a book, 214 00:09:52,480 --> 00:09:54,480 Speaker 14: go to the library. So I would go to the 215 00:09:54,480 --> 00:09:59,280 Speaker 14: library and I'd go check out LPs of comedy things 216 00:09:59,320 --> 00:10:00,719 Speaker 14: and I would go get Cheech and Chong and I 217 00:10:00,760 --> 00:10:02,800 Speaker 14: would go get Bob Newhart and I would go get 218 00:10:02,840 --> 00:10:05,479 Speaker 14: Richard Pryor and w And it was really wildly inappropriate, 219 00:10:06,200 --> 00:10:08,760 Speaker 14: most of them for a seven year old, eight year old, 220 00:10:09,520 --> 00:10:11,760 Speaker 14: but it was something to do right, and my mom 221 00:10:11,840 --> 00:10:14,920 Speaker 14: was and it was free. Those are the other things. 222 00:10:14,960 --> 00:10:19,280 Speaker 14: So it was like I was dependent upon the community, 223 00:10:19,760 --> 00:10:23,080 Speaker 14: whether it was cub Scouts, Boy Scouts, whether it was 224 00:10:24,280 --> 00:10:28,560 Speaker 14: community athletics. You know, you only had to pay nine 225 00:10:28,600 --> 00:10:33,160 Speaker 14: dollars and I could play soccer for a season, and 226 00:10:33,400 --> 00:10:35,480 Speaker 14: you know that included your uniform and all the other 227 00:10:35,520 --> 00:10:37,480 Speaker 14: stuff that made you feel like you were good, and 228 00:10:38,120 --> 00:10:41,480 Speaker 14: the coach was some divorced dad who didn't anything else 229 00:10:41,480 --> 00:10:43,520 Speaker 14: to do, and you know, you weren't exactly training to 230 00:10:43,559 --> 00:10:45,840 Speaker 14: be a professional soccer player, but it was something to do. 231 00:10:46,880 --> 00:10:49,960 Speaker 14: So those are the kinds of things that I gravitated toward. 232 00:10:50,040 --> 00:10:51,880 Speaker 14: And then my mom would put me in art classes 233 00:10:51,880 --> 00:10:55,360 Speaker 14: and she'd put me in acting classes because she knew 234 00:10:55,440 --> 00:10:57,320 Speaker 14: it was something to do, that I wouldn't have fun 235 00:10:57,360 --> 00:10:59,600 Speaker 14: with it, that I could meet other kids, and that 236 00:11:00,320 --> 00:11:01,880 Speaker 14: I would be you know, and then she could then 237 00:11:01,920 --> 00:11:04,400 Speaker 14: go to work. She had to work, you know, from 238 00:11:04,480 --> 00:11:07,400 Speaker 14: nine to five every day. She was the secretary, and 239 00:11:07,480 --> 00:11:11,160 Speaker 14: so that was like that was again, and that idea 240 00:11:11,200 --> 00:11:14,000 Speaker 14: of like in local parentics, like that, I was taken 241 00:11:14,040 --> 00:11:16,960 Speaker 14: care of by the community, which is why when I 242 00:11:17,040 --> 00:11:20,199 Speaker 14: talk about how much a hometown kid I. 243 00:11:20,160 --> 00:11:21,240 Speaker 2: Am, so why get back. 244 00:11:31,040 --> 00:11:34,600 Speaker 8: I went to LA when I was nineteen. I tried 245 00:11:34,600 --> 00:11:37,400 Speaker 8: to go to college for like a semester after high school, 246 00:11:37,720 --> 00:11:42,360 Speaker 8: which was a community college in New Jersey, and I studied, 247 00:11:42,400 --> 00:11:45,200 Speaker 8: ironically Russian history. I don't know what I was thinking 248 00:11:45,320 --> 00:11:47,840 Speaker 8: or talking about. I was like filling a box of 249 00:11:47,880 --> 00:11:49,920 Speaker 8: time because I was like, what am I going to 250 00:11:49,960 --> 00:11:51,560 Speaker 8: do with my life. I'm not going to go to 251 00:11:51,600 --> 00:11:56,080 Speaker 8: college really, but we thought maybe I should start because 252 00:11:56,120 --> 00:11:58,320 Speaker 8: I was eighteen and graduated from high school. And I 253 00:11:58,320 --> 00:12:01,000 Speaker 8: think I just stayed in Marstown because I was dating 254 00:12:01,040 --> 00:12:04,160 Speaker 8: this guy who lived in Marstown and so that was like, 255 00:12:04,440 --> 00:12:06,480 Speaker 8: probably the real reason I stayed was because he was 256 00:12:06,520 --> 00:12:09,280 Speaker 8: really hot. Yeah, but we weren't, you know. 257 00:12:09,320 --> 00:12:11,599 Speaker 4: That wasn't why I stayed for the beauty of Morristown. 258 00:12:11,920 --> 00:12:14,760 Speaker 8: Then we broke up and I was like, what am 259 00:12:14,800 --> 00:12:16,440 Speaker 8: I doing in New Jersey. I don't want to be here. 260 00:12:16,440 --> 00:12:18,400 Speaker 8: I always wanted to move to Los Angeles. I had 261 00:12:18,440 --> 00:12:21,600 Speaker 8: an aunt and uncle who lived in bel Air. The 262 00:12:21,600 --> 00:12:23,560 Speaker 8: first time I had come to Los Angeles, I was 263 00:12:23,600 --> 00:12:25,160 Speaker 8: like ten years old and we came to visit my 264 00:12:25,160 --> 00:12:28,520 Speaker 8: aunt and my mom's sister and we got on an 265 00:12:28,559 --> 00:12:30,480 Speaker 8: airplane and it was the first time I had flown. 266 00:12:30,520 --> 00:12:32,920 Speaker 8: I was like ten, and we walked past the first 267 00:12:32,920 --> 00:12:34,880 Speaker 8: class section and I was like, well, whoa who are 268 00:12:34,920 --> 00:12:37,320 Speaker 8: these people like? This looks like this looks like my group. 269 00:12:37,880 --> 00:12:40,000 Speaker 8: And my mom was like, no, no, honey, we have 270 00:12:40,040 --> 00:12:42,320 Speaker 8: six children, like, we're never flying first class. This is 271 00:12:42,320 --> 00:12:44,600 Speaker 8: a different section of the plane. And I was like, well, 272 00:12:45,040 --> 00:12:46,520 Speaker 8: I don't know about that, Like I feel like I 273 00:12:46,559 --> 00:12:49,160 Speaker 8: belonged there. So we went back, and then two years 274 00:12:49,200 --> 00:12:51,120 Speaker 8: later I had my second plane trip. But I had 275 00:12:51,280 --> 00:12:53,280 Speaker 8: become a babysitter in between ten and twelve, and I 276 00:12:53,280 --> 00:12:55,680 Speaker 8: saved up my money and I purchased my own first 277 00:12:55,720 --> 00:12:58,440 Speaker 8: class ticket from a neighbor down the street who is 278 00:12:58,440 --> 00:13:00,520 Speaker 8: my friend's mom, who happened to be a travel agent. 279 00:13:00,720 --> 00:13:03,560 Speaker 8: And then the next flight we took as a family 280 00:13:03,760 --> 00:13:05,600 Speaker 8: with my mom and I had two brothers with me 281 00:13:06,000 --> 00:13:06,840 Speaker 8: who were all older. 282 00:13:06,880 --> 00:13:07,560 Speaker 4: I'm the youngest. 283 00:13:07,880 --> 00:13:10,239 Speaker 8: We get on the plane and it was my grandfather's 284 00:13:10,240 --> 00:13:13,079 Speaker 8: funeral he had died, and we're flying to California, and 285 00:13:13,320 --> 00:13:16,640 Speaker 8: two A was my seat and I fucking flopped down 286 00:13:16,640 --> 00:13:18,439 Speaker 8: and I was like, hey, I will see you guys 287 00:13:18,480 --> 00:13:20,520 Speaker 8: at the end of the fight. And my mom was like, 288 00:13:20,559 --> 00:13:22,120 Speaker 8: what are you doing, Chelsea? 289 00:13:22,200 --> 00:13:22,520 Speaker 12: Get up. 290 00:13:22,559 --> 00:13:23,680 Speaker 8: I'm like, this is my ticket. 291 00:13:23,760 --> 00:13:24,480 Speaker 4: I purchased it. 292 00:13:24,720 --> 00:13:26,880 Speaker 8: And my older brother's like, oh my god, are you 293 00:13:26,960 --> 00:13:28,720 Speaker 8: kidding me? He said, you have to give that seat 294 00:13:28,760 --> 00:13:30,079 Speaker 8: to mom. I'm like, no, I don't. 295 00:13:30,200 --> 00:13:32,640 Speaker 6: I purchased this. This is my earned money. 296 00:13:32,760 --> 00:13:34,120 Speaker 8: Like a mom can sit in the back of the 297 00:13:34,120 --> 00:13:35,839 Speaker 8: plane where she's like that's fine with her. 298 00:13:35,960 --> 00:13:41,800 Speaker 6: This is where I belong. Laurel Canyon, for many people 299 00:13:42,080 --> 00:13:46,240 Speaker 6: was a literal place but also a metaphorical place, and 300 00:13:46,280 --> 00:13:50,120 Speaker 6: for me it was the same thing. I knew that 301 00:13:50,200 --> 00:13:53,160 Speaker 6: Carol King and Joni Mitchell and all these people that 302 00:13:53,200 --> 00:13:56,679 Speaker 6: I loved were living up there. I have two stories 303 00:13:56,679 --> 00:13:59,120 Speaker 6: about Laurel Canyon that are particular. Would you like to 304 00:13:59,160 --> 00:13:59,480 Speaker 6: hear them? 305 00:13:59,600 --> 00:14:00,520 Speaker 2: Yes, okay. 306 00:14:01,440 --> 00:14:06,320 Speaker 6: One is that in high school, Bobby Carodine, who was 307 00:14:06,400 --> 00:14:10,679 Speaker 6: David Carodine's brother and he was an actor, also went 308 00:14:10,720 --> 00:14:12,480 Speaker 6: to my high school. He was a little bit older 309 00:14:12,480 --> 00:14:14,920 Speaker 6: than I was, I think, and he asked me on 310 00:14:14,920 --> 00:14:17,880 Speaker 6: a date and he had a little Alpha Romeo, like 311 00:14:17,920 --> 00:14:21,080 Speaker 6: a red sports car. So he said, let's go for 312 00:14:21,120 --> 00:14:24,000 Speaker 6: a ride, you know, just drive around. And I think 313 00:14:24,040 --> 00:14:26,080 Speaker 6: it was a school night, so it was pretty early, 314 00:14:26,440 --> 00:14:29,080 Speaker 6: but we were driving around and he says, well, let's 315 00:14:29,120 --> 00:14:31,360 Speaker 6: go up and visit my brother. Now his brother at 316 00:14:31,360 --> 00:14:33,640 Speaker 6: the time was David Carodine and he was doing the 317 00:14:33,680 --> 00:14:37,760 Speaker 6: series Kung Fu, remember that, So I said sure. At 318 00:14:37,760 --> 00:14:41,600 Speaker 6: that time, I had eaten at home and he takes 319 00:14:41,680 --> 00:14:45,520 Speaker 6: us up and David was married to Barbara Hershey, so 320 00:14:45,640 --> 00:14:49,120 Speaker 6: they were like, okay, let's go see what my brother's doing. 321 00:14:49,160 --> 00:14:51,480 Speaker 6: So we show up and they had a little baby. 322 00:14:51,520 --> 00:14:53,840 Speaker 6: And the baby wasn't even walking, it was just a 323 00:14:53,920 --> 00:14:57,560 Speaker 6: crawling baby. But it was Laurel Canyon. They were hippies, 324 00:14:58,040 --> 00:15:00,800 Speaker 6: it was not. They had a big, huge, it was 325 00:15:00,880 --> 00:15:05,360 Speaker 6: not the cleanest of kitchens, let's say. But the baby 326 00:15:05,400 --> 00:15:08,640 Speaker 6: was on the floor and I took one look around 327 00:15:08,680 --> 00:15:11,840 Speaker 6: and I was like, I'm not really like vibing with 328 00:15:11,920 --> 00:15:13,280 Speaker 6: this whole, you know. 329 00:15:13,320 --> 00:15:15,240 Speaker 2: Like not really clean vibe. 330 00:15:15,880 --> 00:15:19,360 Speaker 6: So yeah, but the baby is there and so cute, 331 00:15:19,440 --> 00:15:22,520 Speaker 6: and she's making some kind of dinner, and you know, 332 00:15:22,960 --> 00:15:26,640 Speaker 6: we all sit down to eat, and they asked me 333 00:15:26,680 --> 00:15:28,480 Speaker 6: if I wanted to eat, and I said no because 334 00:15:28,480 --> 00:15:31,360 Speaker 6: I had just eaten at my parents, right, So I said, 335 00:15:31,400 --> 00:15:33,920 Speaker 6: thank you very much. Would you like something to drink? 336 00:15:34,040 --> 00:15:36,920 Speaker 6: And I said yes? What could they do to get 337 00:15:36,960 --> 00:15:42,600 Speaker 6: something to drink? So she passes over a communal bowl 338 00:15:42,680 --> 00:15:43,160 Speaker 6: of water. 339 00:15:44,880 --> 00:15:48,480 Speaker 15: Oh, this is amazing, and so I did one of 340 00:15:48,480 --> 00:15:51,360 Speaker 15: those fake things where you like pretend you're sipping, but 341 00:15:51,480 --> 00:15:54,600 Speaker 15: you're really just like your lips are clothes, like you know, 342 00:15:54,680 --> 00:15:57,200 Speaker 15: now during COVID, that wouldn't fly. 343 00:15:57,440 --> 00:16:00,640 Speaker 6: The other Laurel Canyon story that's so great is two 344 00:16:00,680 --> 00:16:02,840 Speaker 6: of my best friends growing up were Catholic and they 345 00:16:02,880 --> 00:16:05,720 Speaker 6: went to a Catholic girls' school called Corvallis. It was 346 00:16:05,760 --> 00:16:10,680 Speaker 6: on Laurel Canyon, just south of Ventura Boulevard. The building 347 00:16:10,760 --> 00:16:13,600 Speaker 6: is still there, but it's not a girls school anymore. 348 00:16:14,440 --> 00:16:19,280 Speaker 6: And one of their best friends there was Melanie Griffith. 349 00:16:19,960 --> 00:16:22,200 Speaker 6: So I met Melanie when I was like sixteen or 350 00:16:22,240 --> 00:16:27,840 Speaker 6: seventeen years old, right, and Melanie was dating Don Johnson 351 00:16:27,880 --> 00:16:31,000 Speaker 6: at that time already and Don had a house in 352 00:16:31,080 --> 00:16:33,880 Speaker 6: Laurel Canyon. So Melanie and Don were seeing each other 353 00:16:34,920 --> 00:16:37,800 Speaker 6: and we were over there one day when it was cold. 354 00:16:38,160 --> 00:16:41,440 Speaker 6: It was Don's house, but Melanie was still in high school. 355 00:16:41,480 --> 00:16:44,080 Speaker 6: But it was also kind of random because she was 356 00:16:44,120 --> 00:16:47,120 Speaker 6: still dating Don, so I don't know she lived at 357 00:16:47,120 --> 00:16:48,400 Speaker 6: home or she lived with Donna's. 358 00:16:48,640 --> 00:16:50,400 Speaker 2: Very it was very free love. 359 00:16:50,560 --> 00:16:51,240 Speaker 6: Very free love. 360 00:16:51,360 --> 00:16:51,560 Speaker 14: Yeah. 361 00:16:52,240 --> 00:16:58,800 Speaker 6: So Melanie says to Don, Donnie, it's cold, can you 362 00:16:58,880 --> 00:17:04,320 Speaker 6: light a fire? And he says, yeah, sure. So we 363 00:17:04,480 --> 00:17:07,479 Speaker 6: girls are outside, we're doing something, we're laughing whatever. We 364 00:17:07,520 --> 00:17:09,280 Speaker 6: hear some noise, We don't think much of it. We 365 00:17:09,400 --> 00:17:12,520 Speaker 6: come back in and there's a gorgeous fire roaring in 366 00:17:12,600 --> 00:17:17,240 Speaker 6: this Laurel Canyon cottage, and Melanie says, where'd you get 367 00:17:17,280 --> 00:17:22,600 Speaker 6: the firewood? He says, I chopped up one of the chairs. 368 00:17:25,320 --> 00:17:26,080 Speaker 10: What she did? 369 00:17:26,840 --> 00:17:29,680 Speaker 6: He chopped up one of the dining room chairs. 370 00:17:30,320 --> 00:17:32,879 Speaker 2: What was happening? I don't know. 371 00:17:54,400 --> 00:17:56,439 Speaker 1: Thanks for joining us for our look back at the 372 00:17:56,480 --> 00:17:59,560 Speaker 1: first season of Table for two. One thing that ties 373 00:17:59,640 --> 00:18:02,200 Speaker 1: all my guests together is their ability to harness their 374 00:18:02,240 --> 00:18:06,119 Speaker 1: creativity and turn it into beautiful work, whether it's on 375 00:18:06,200 --> 00:18:09,600 Speaker 1: the page, on the runway, or on the screen. We've 376 00:18:09,640 --> 00:18:13,120 Speaker 1: heard pieces of advice and insight into the creative process. 377 00:18:13,680 --> 00:18:17,200 Speaker 1: In this section, we'll hear from Emily Blunt, Tom Ford, 378 00:18:17,720 --> 00:18:23,760 Speaker 1: Anna Winter, and Octavier Spencer. Do you find being a 379 00:18:23,800 --> 00:18:25,800 Speaker 1: mother being a professional person? 380 00:18:28,200 --> 00:18:32,840 Speaker 16: It does and it doesn't, well, not always well, you know, 381 00:18:33,040 --> 00:18:34,680 Speaker 16: it's one of those things when people like, how do 382 00:18:34,720 --> 00:18:37,000 Speaker 16: you balance it? I never feel I'm doing it right, 383 00:18:38,040 --> 00:18:41,160 Speaker 16: you know, But I'm this year, I'm not working. 384 00:18:41,800 --> 00:18:42,639 Speaker 4: I just need to be. 385 00:18:43,160 --> 00:18:45,320 Speaker 16: Yeah, I just need to I worked quite a bit 386 00:18:45,440 --> 00:18:50,520 Speaker 16: last year and my oldest baby is nine. I were 387 00:18:50,560 --> 00:18:52,960 Speaker 16: in the last year of single digits, and I just 388 00:18:53,359 --> 00:18:58,000 Speaker 16: feel there's cornerstones to their day that are so important 389 00:18:58,040 --> 00:19:01,480 Speaker 16: when they're little and it's you wake me up, will 390 00:19:01,520 --> 00:19:03,439 Speaker 16: you take me to school, will you pick me up? 391 00:19:03,480 --> 00:19:06,680 Speaker 16: Will you put me to bed? And I just need 392 00:19:06,720 --> 00:19:09,200 Speaker 16: to be there for all of them for a good stretch, 393 00:19:09,600 --> 00:19:12,560 Speaker 16: and I just felt that in my bones. I had 394 00:19:12,560 --> 00:19:13,800 Speaker 16: a beautiful time on the. 395 00:19:13,720 --> 00:19:15,080 Speaker 4: Projects I did last year. 396 00:19:15,880 --> 00:19:20,080 Speaker 16: Some were more intense than others, some were harder than others, 397 00:19:20,119 --> 00:19:23,800 Speaker 16: someone more time consuming than others. And the ones that 398 00:19:23,840 --> 00:19:27,200 Speaker 16: are time consuming, I think for me are becoming few 399 00:19:27,200 --> 00:19:31,960 Speaker 16: and further between because of just the emotional cost on me, 400 00:19:32,320 --> 00:19:37,919 Speaker 16: on the kids. On balance, and I'm very prone to guilt, 401 00:19:38,160 --> 00:19:40,920 Speaker 16: and I think maybe all mothers are. You're just prone 402 00:19:41,040 --> 00:19:45,399 Speaker 16: to feeling bad for God forbid, wanting something outside of 403 00:19:45,440 --> 00:19:49,359 Speaker 16: being a mother. I am a huge advocate for it. 404 00:19:49,440 --> 00:19:52,080 Speaker 16: I'm a huge advocate for women being ambitious. I love 405 00:19:52,080 --> 00:19:54,920 Speaker 16: the word ambition. It's just dreams with purpose. That's all 406 00:19:54,920 --> 00:19:57,399 Speaker 16: it is. It's not another world, it is, That's what 407 00:19:57,440 --> 00:19:57,760 Speaker 16: it is. 408 00:19:57,880 --> 00:19:58,880 Speaker 2: That's what it means. 409 00:19:58,960 --> 00:20:01,480 Speaker 16: And it's just and I want my kids to grow 410 00:20:01,560 --> 00:20:03,520 Speaker 16: up and find something that they adore doing. 411 00:20:03,880 --> 00:20:07,360 Speaker 1: And your kids watching you do something that you adore, Yeah, 412 00:20:07,520 --> 00:20:08,280 Speaker 1: so important. 413 00:20:08,359 --> 00:20:09,440 Speaker 4: It's so important. 414 00:20:09,600 --> 00:20:12,159 Speaker 16: And of course they're just horrified by the fact that 415 00:20:12,200 --> 00:20:14,239 Speaker 16: I'm an actress, which is sort of so embarrassed by 416 00:20:14,280 --> 00:20:16,560 Speaker 16: and have no desire to watching me in anything, which 417 00:20:16,600 --> 00:20:19,159 Speaker 16: is very healthy because they just want me to be 418 00:20:19,280 --> 00:20:25,680 Speaker 16: their mum. So the balance is usually it sways in extremes, 419 00:20:25,720 --> 00:20:27,520 Speaker 16: like I'll work too much and then I'll have like 420 00:20:27,560 --> 00:20:30,920 Speaker 16: a complete reaction against it and an aversion to being 421 00:20:30,960 --> 00:20:32,919 Speaker 16: on a film set for a long time, and then 422 00:20:32,960 --> 00:20:35,879 Speaker 16: I'll want to desperately work again. So I don't know 423 00:20:35,960 --> 00:20:37,320 Speaker 16: if I do it moderately. 424 00:20:37,400 --> 00:20:38,960 Speaker 4: I think I just have these. 425 00:20:40,400 --> 00:20:42,400 Speaker 16: Pulls towards it and against it. 426 00:20:48,640 --> 00:20:52,080 Speaker 5: You know, I am a creative director. I am used 427 00:20:52,119 --> 00:20:55,720 Speaker 5: to working with the very best people in fashion. Let's 428 00:20:55,720 --> 00:20:58,200 Speaker 5: just say, let's start with fashion, the very best people. 429 00:20:59,080 --> 00:21:01,880 Speaker 5: You have to have a vision. You have to know 430 00:21:01,920 --> 00:21:05,000 Speaker 5: what you want to say as a fashion designer, but 431 00:21:05,400 --> 00:21:08,600 Speaker 5: you have to lead and inspire this group of people. 432 00:21:09,400 --> 00:21:12,919 Speaker 5: Fashion design I mean you assistant designers, seamstresses, hair and 433 00:21:12,960 --> 00:21:14,919 Speaker 5: makeup people, lighting people. 434 00:21:16,440 --> 00:21:18,040 Speaker 2: You have to get the best out of them. 435 00:21:18,320 --> 00:21:22,200 Speaker 5: So you have to inspire them and you know, let 436 00:21:22,200 --> 00:21:25,000 Speaker 5: them express themselves. But at the same time you have 437 00:21:25,160 --> 00:21:32,280 Speaker 5: to sort of corralat ale and focus it into your vision, 438 00:21:32,359 --> 00:21:36,120 Speaker 5: which is in my case somewhat singular. You know, fashion 439 00:21:36,280 --> 00:21:40,600 Speaker 5: is not a democracy, it's a dictatorship. And in the end, 440 00:21:41,080 --> 00:21:43,720 Speaker 5: you know, if I design something is because that's exactly 441 00:21:43,760 --> 00:21:47,600 Speaker 5: the way I want it. I've been called a control freak. 442 00:21:47,640 --> 00:21:49,440 Speaker 5: I hate that word, but I think if my name 443 00:21:49,520 --> 00:21:52,200 Speaker 5: is on something, it needs to be exactly the way. Sure, 444 00:21:52,280 --> 00:21:55,040 Speaker 5: so yes, others somebody else can say maybe it should 445 00:21:55,080 --> 00:21:57,159 Speaker 5: be like this, and I say, no, you should be 446 00:21:57,320 --> 00:22:00,040 Speaker 5: like that, or yes, a great idea. So this the 447 00:22:00,080 --> 00:22:03,600 Speaker 5: same is true with film. As a film director, it's 448 00:22:03,640 --> 00:22:06,520 Speaker 5: the same process. You have to have a vision, you 449 00:22:06,560 --> 00:22:08,560 Speaker 5: have to know what you want to say. You have 450 00:22:08,640 --> 00:22:11,920 Speaker 5: to hire the best people, bring out the best in them, 451 00:22:12,040 --> 00:22:16,360 Speaker 5: the best actors, the best cinematographer, of the best of everything. 452 00:22:16,400 --> 00:22:19,000 Speaker 5: But yet you have to steer it all in a 453 00:22:19,040 --> 00:22:22,040 Speaker 5: way that expresses your point of view and that you 454 00:22:22,119 --> 00:22:27,840 Speaker 5: don't lose. So the process is not dissimilar. Also, the 455 00:22:27,880 --> 00:22:30,919 Speaker 5: thing about fashion is we have people don't realize fashion 456 00:22:30,920 --> 00:22:35,600 Speaker 5: designers have an enormous hard drive loaded with images from 457 00:22:35,720 --> 00:22:37,960 Speaker 5: almost every film that's ever been made. You know, when 458 00:22:37,960 --> 00:22:41,920 Speaker 5: we start a collection, we pull images from the twenties, 459 00:22:41,920 --> 00:22:44,080 Speaker 5: the thirties, the forties, the fifties the sixties, and most 460 00:22:44,119 --> 00:22:47,040 Speaker 5: of them are from film where they're from, you know, 461 00:22:47,080 --> 00:22:50,480 Speaker 5: so we have a grasp on culture, contemporary culture, past 462 00:22:50,520 --> 00:22:53,080 Speaker 5: culture that I don't think most people realize, and that's 463 00:22:53,160 --> 00:23:02,000 Speaker 5: very helpful when you're making a film. 464 00:23:02,119 --> 00:23:05,680 Speaker 1: My question really is with you know, having the job 465 00:23:05,720 --> 00:23:08,320 Speaker 1: you do, which is the you know, chief content officer 466 00:23:08,359 --> 00:23:10,800 Speaker 1: for Conde Nasy. You're so busy, how do you make 467 00:23:10,880 --> 00:23:14,760 Speaker 1: time for friends to give advice to people? 468 00:23:15,600 --> 00:23:18,200 Speaker 2: How does that come into your life in such a way. 469 00:23:18,440 --> 00:23:21,280 Speaker 12: I'm so lucky that I have the platform that I do, 470 00:23:21,600 --> 00:23:25,680 Speaker 12: and it does put me in a position to help 471 00:23:25,720 --> 00:23:27,680 Speaker 12: people and to connect people, and. 472 00:23:29,160 --> 00:23:31,360 Speaker 4: I get a huge. 473 00:23:31,680 --> 00:23:35,800 Speaker 12: Amount of pleasure, whether it's working with my chiefs of 474 00:23:35,840 --> 00:23:39,360 Speaker 12: content around the world or you or whoever it may be, 475 00:23:39,720 --> 00:23:42,199 Speaker 12: in learning about their lives and what they're thinking and 476 00:23:42,240 --> 00:23:45,080 Speaker 12: what they're doing and if there is any way that 477 00:23:45,160 --> 00:23:48,840 Speaker 12: one can be helpful. I feel, you know, I had 478 00:23:48,880 --> 00:23:50,760 Speaker 12: amazing people that helped me when I was. 479 00:23:50,720 --> 00:23:54,840 Speaker 4: Starting out, and I think it's it doesn't require. 480 00:23:55,240 --> 00:23:57,840 Speaker 12: Anything but one's time, and I think that's just so 481 00:23:58,520 --> 00:24:03,480 Speaker 12: important to give when people are rushing so madly. And 482 00:24:04,000 --> 00:24:07,320 Speaker 12: I also think, particularly right now, when things are so tough, 483 00:24:07,359 --> 00:24:09,520 Speaker 12: and we've all come out of COVID and the world 484 00:24:09,600 --> 00:24:12,200 Speaker 12: is in the state that it's in that to make 485 00:24:12,240 --> 00:24:15,280 Speaker 12: time to help and connect people if one can is 486 00:24:15,359 --> 00:24:17,800 Speaker 12: so important. I also think it's really really important to 487 00:24:17,800 --> 00:24:21,119 Speaker 12: be focused, because you can't do everything and you can't 488 00:24:21,240 --> 00:24:24,840 Speaker 12: help everyone, so you think about where you do have 489 00:24:24,920 --> 00:24:26,560 Speaker 12: areas of expertise. 490 00:24:26,160 --> 00:24:26,359 Speaker 4: Or you. 491 00:24:28,280 --> 00:24:31,480 Speaker 12: Can put people in touch that will be meaningful. So 492 00:24:31,520 --> 00:24:34,840 Speaker 12: I think being focused and being clear and also being 493 00:24:35,080 --> 00:24:40,679 Speaker 12: transparent people respond to that. I've worked in my career 494 00:24:40,760 --> 00:24:43,800 Speaker 12: within four people that maybe haven't necessarily been that clear, 495 00:24:43,880 --> 00:24:46,520 Speaker 12: and it's incredibly frustrating. And I think as long as 496 00:24:46,520 --> 00:24:48,399 Speaker 12: people know it's a yes or it's a no, or 497 00:24:48,920 --> 00:24:50,639 Speaker 12: I can help you or I'm really sorry, I'd love 498 00:24:50,640 --> 00:24:52,840 Speaker 12: to help you, but I'm not able to is better 499 00:24:52,880 --> 00:24:56,360 Speaker 12: than pretending or faking. And so that's what I try 500 00:24:56,359 --> 00:24:58,240 Speaker 12: as much as possible to do, because I have been 501 00:24:58,680 --> 00:25:00,880 Speaker 12: at the other end when people have made promises or 502 00:25:00,920 --> 00:25:03,680 Speaker 12: sort of not being clear and what they're saying or doing, 503 00:25:03,720 --> 00:25:05,879 Speaker 12: and you just waste everybody's time. 504 00:25:14,600 --> 00:25:21,040 Speaker 3: I think, especially given where we are with technology and 505 00:25:21,080 --> 00:25:25,360 Speaker 3: social media, there are steps in the process. I think 506 00:25:25,359 --> 00:25:28,920 Speaker 3: that people want to skip because it's about it's about 507 00:25:29,200 --> 00:25:34,840 Speaker 3: fame sometimes and it's about being out there. Oh you know, 508 00:25:35,359 --> 00:25:38,320 Speaker 3: no one has noticed me yet. And I think you 509 00:25:38,640 --> 00:25:41,640 Speaker 3: have to be prepared because you don't know when that. 510 00:25:41,640 --> 00:25:44,280 Speaker 4: Opportunity is going to come, so you have to study. 511 00:25:44,480 --> 00:25:46,080 Speaker 3: And when you think about it, I remember my mom 512 00:25:46,119 --> 00:25:49,440 Speaker 3: and it was the most practical advice she is ever 513 00:25:49,480 --> 00:25:52,919 Speaker 3: given it, And it's just part of it's my mantle. 514 00:25:53,000 --> 00:25:55,600 Speaker 3: You know, whenever you if you're the first job you 515 00:25:55,600 --> 00:25:59,159 Speaker 3: ever get, if it's a fry cook, if it's a 516 00:25:59,280 --> 00:26:02,639 Speaker 3: newspaper book, someone's going to train you on how to 517 00:26:02,640 --> 00:26:05,199 Speaker 3: do it. This is how you sell your newspaper, This 518 00:26:05,240 --> 00:26:08,239 Speaker 3: is how you cook my fries, whatever else it is, 519 00:26:08,280 --> 00:26:11,160 Speaker 3: whatever field of study, you're going to. 520 00:26:11,160 --> 00:26:12,520 Speaker 4: Have to train. 521 00:26:13,359 --> 00:26:18,520 Speaker 3: And so take the time because if you're three years in, 522 00:26:18,840 --> 00:26:21,080 Speaker 3: if you're fifteen years in, if you're one year in, 523 00:26:22,080 --> 00:26:26,760 Speaker 3: if you don't have the comfort of training, that's your foundation. 524 00:26:27,119 --> 00:26:30,040 Speaker 3: And if you don't have, you know, your your land legs. 525 00:26:30,280 --> 00:26:34,800 Speaker 3: When that opportunity presents itself, it could mean failure. 526 00:26:35,119 --> 00:26:37,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, because if you don't build upon it, you don't 527 00:26:37,119 --> 00:26:39,040 Speaker 1: have the you don't have the goods, you don't. 528 00:26:38,920 --> 00:26:40,040 Speaker 2: Don't have the foundation. 529 00:26:40,640 --> 00:26:43,840 Speaker 3: You have to have that foundation because whatever it is, 530 00:26:43,880 --> 00:26:45,600 Speaker 3: you know, everybody feels like an imposter. 531 00:26:46,119 --> 00:26:46,440 Speaker 2: You know. 532 00:26:46,680 --> 00:26:50,040 Speaker 3: So if you haven't done the best to prepare for 533 00:26:50,080 --> 00:26:52,520 Speaker 3: whatever it is, you can't go to You can't be 534 00:26:52,560 --> 00:26:55,360 Speaker 3: a doctor without going to med school, right, what I mean, 535 00:26:55,640 --> 00:26:57,480 Speaker 3: nobody's going to let you doctor on the. 536 00:26:57,560 --> 00:27:02,000 Speaker 2: Right and full it does get off too exactly. 537 00:27:19,359 --> 00:27:21,800 Speaker 1: Thanks for joining us on Table for two. Today, we're 538 00:27:21,840 --> 00:27:24,120 Speaker 1: looking back at all the great interviews and meals we've 539 00:27:24,119 --> 00:27:27,120 Speaker 1: shared this year. Almost every guest on the show has 540 00:27:27,119 --> 00:27:30,520 Speaker 1: had an amazing story of making it big. Sometimes it's 541 00:27:30,520 --> 00:27:33,359 Speaker 1: a realization that they've just gotten their breakthrough role or 542 00:27:33,440 --> 00:27:35,240 Speaker 1: that they've been part of something that has had a 543 00:27:35,400 --> 00:27:39,960 Speaker 1: huge cultural impact. Let's hear stories from our interviews with Robblo, Sarah, 544 00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:44,000 Speaker 1: Jessica Parker, and Julia Roberts. With George Clooney, you know, 545 00:27:44,320 --> 00:27:46,879 Speaker 1: your memoir really goes deep into the audition process and 546 00:27:46,920 --> 00:27:50,200 Speaker 1: then the actual shooting process with Francis fort Gopolo, which 547 00:27:50,240 --> 00:27:52,560 Speaker 1: is like crazy what he made you guys do, and 548 00:27:52,640 --> 00:27:55,760 Speaker 1: like because that was like the first really big moment 549 00:27:56,000 --> 00:27:56,680 Speaker 1: my first movie. 550 00:27:56,760 --> 00:27:57,600 Speaker 2: That was your first movie. 551 00:27:57,680 --> 00:28:02,159 Speaker 11: You've done, I've done, I've done a sitcom on ABC 552 00:28:02,359 --> 00:28:05,200 Speaker 11: and I played like the teenager, the teenage Son, and 553 00:28:05,359 --> 00:28:09,280 Speaker 11: it ran for like six episodes and was canceled. And 554 00:28:09,320 --> 00:28:12,960 Speaker 11: then I've done some after school specials. If you remember 555 00:28:13,000 --> 00:28:16,160 Speaker 11: those Wednesdays on yours. 556 00:28:16,240 --> 00:28:17,120 Speaker 1: There was a big deal. 557 00:28:17,800 --> 00:28:18,480 Speaker 2: It was a big one. 558 00:28:18,520 --> 00:28:22,960 Speaker 11: But I'd never done a movie. And you know, sitcoms 559 00:28:22,960 --> 00:28:25,160 Speaker 11: and after school specials are aut movies, and they're certainly 560 00:28:25,200 --> 00:28:28,600 Speaker 11: not Francis for Copola now, and you know Coppola at 561 00:28:28,640 --> 00:28:32,359 Speaker 11: that still one of our great filmmakers. Yeah, at that moment, 562 00:28:32,400 --> 00:28:35,440 Speaker 11: he was you know, he was only a few years 563 00:28:35,480 --> 00:28:38,600 Speaker 11: off of making Apocalypse Now, right, and you know, and 564 00:28:38,600 --> 00:28:41,160 Speaker 11: of course got The Godfathers. And so here was this 565 00:28:41,360 --> 00:28:46,000 Speaker 11: very very lauded, serious filmmaker doing a movie where all 566 00:28:46,080 --> 00:28:49,560 Speaker 11: the roles are fifteen, sixteen, seventeen year olds, right, and 567 00:28:49,720 --> 00:28:51,959 Speaker 11: you know, all the kid actors were like this, this 568 00:28:52,040 --> 00:28:54,880 Speaker 11: is the it's the goal, the Willy Wonka Gold tickets 569 00:28:55,960 --> 00:28:56,960 Speaker 11: that everybody wanted. 570 00:28:57,320 --> 00:29:01,320 Speaker 1: And you talk about the auditions and you friends in 571 00:29:01,360 --> 00:29:03,800 Speaker 1: the auditions. So there's the West Coast guys that are 572 00:29:03,840 --> 00:29:04,440 Speaker 1: auditioning in. 573 00:29:04,440 --> 00:29:05,719 Speaker 2: The New York actors, right. 574 00:29:05,840 --> 00:29:08,360 Speaker 1: I love this because he really makes you work for 575 00:29:08,440 --> 00:29:13,080 Speaker 1: this the West Coast actors were you Amelio? 576 00:29:13,680 --> 00:29:16,760 Speaker 11: Weirdly enough, Tom because he was staying out here with Amelia, 577 00:29:16,840 --> 00:29:19,120 Speaker 11: so Cruz was out here even though he was East 578 00:29:19,120 --> 00:29:23,240 Speaker 11: Coast pony Boy Tommy Howell. And then we went to 579 00:29:23,320 --> 00:29:27,920 Speaker 11: the East Coast and that's where Matt Dylon was Ralph Matchio, 580 00:29:28,840 --> 00:29:33,360 Speaker 11: and we went through this whole process months, months of auditions, 581 00:29:33,440 --> 00:29:36,480 Speaker 11: months and months and months and months, and then he 582 00:29:36,520 --> 00:29:37,959 Speaker 11: picked his favorites. And then he took us to New 583 00:29:38,040 --> 00:29:41,080 Speaker 11: York and it was the same thing there, but it 584 00:29:41,120 --> 00:29:41,560 Speaker 11: wasn't months. 585 00:29:41,600 --> 00:29:44,720 Speaker 2: It was a week. And then but we did. 586 00:29:44,800 --> 00:29:47,360 Speaker 11: I mean, there's more filmed footage of us auditioning than 587 00:29:47,360 --> 00:29:49,320 Speaker 11: there probably is of us making the actual movie. 588 00:29:49,600 --> 00:29:51,760 Speaker 1: So the process of that film. When your sons look 589 00:29:51,800 --> 00:29:54,560 Speaker 1: at that movie, what was their reaction to that movie? 590 00:29:55,040 --> 00:29:59,320 Speaker 11: Well, I'm not sure how much of anything of mine 591 00:29:59,360 --> 00:30:01,440 Speaker 11: my son's act actually seen. I actually do think they've 592 00:30:01,440 --> 00:30:06,160 Speaker 11: all seen The Outsiders because, much to their mortification, they 593 00:30:06,240 --> 00:30:08,480 Speaker 11: had to read the book and see the movie in class. Right, 594 00:30:09,200 --> 00:30:12,880 Speaker 11: it is that's seventh grade in the curriculum across the country. 595 00:30:12,880 --> 00:30:14,800 Speaker 11: For you have most part, and there's nothing I love 596 00:30:14,920 --> 00:30:18,160 Speaker 11: more than going into a seventh grade class after they've 597 00:30:18,240 --> 00:30:19,560 Speaker 11: seen the movie or and read. 598 00:30:19,400 --> 00:30:20,320 Speaker 2: The book and talking to them. 599 00:30:20,360 --> 00:30:22,800 Speaker 11: I love it, and I love it because I love kids, 600 00:30:23,400 --> 00:30:29,080 Speaker 11: but also it's a new crop of fans. I mean, 601 00:30:29,120 --> 00:30:31,440 Speaker 11: to be able, as you know. The key to longevity 602 00:30:31,560 --> 00:30:35,880 Speaker 11: is you can't. If your audience ages out, you're done. 603 00:30:35,960 --> 00:30:36,360 Speaker 2: You're done. 604 00:30:36,360 --> 00:30:39,080 Speaker 11: So the key to a long career is if you're 605 00:30:39,120 --> 00:30:41,720 Speaker 11: lucky enough to figure it out, having a new crop 606 00:30:41,720 --> 00:30:44,320 Speaker 11: of people discover you every year. And The Outsiders does 607 00:30:44,360 --> 00:30:45,880 Speaker 11: that by design. 608 00:30:46,080 --> 00:30:49,000 Speaker 2: What was the toughest part when you were in production 609 00:30:49,160 --> 00:30:49,360 Speaker 2: with that? 610 00:30:49,760 --> 00:30:52,960 Speaker 11: The night shoots, you know, I mean, I'd never made 611 00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:56,080 Speaker 11: a movie, so the notion of shooting all night in 612 00:30:56,120 --> 00:30:58,240 Speaker 11: the rain and the fight the big rumble scene was 613 00:30:58,240 --> 00:31:01,320 Speaker 11: a whole week of shooting all at night with freezing cold, 614 00:31:01,400 --> 00:31:05,920 Speaker 11: no dressing rooms, no word. Francis was very mercurial. 615 00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:06,880 Speaker 2: He would treat the. 616 00:31:06,880 --> 00:31:10,800 Speaker 11: Cast great and then wouldn't provide anywhere for us to 617 00:31:10,840 --> 00:31:13,960 Speaker 11: get warm. I mean, Francis had all of these great 618 00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:17,680 Speaker 11: social engineering experiments he wanted to try. He had us 619 00:31:17,960 --> 00:31:24,160 Speaker 11: playing tackle football, yeah in the street, and I'll never 620 00:31:24,160 --> 00:31:27,520 Speaker 11: forget Tommy Helle played pony Boy. His dad was one 621 00:31:27,520 --> 00:31:30,600 Speaker 11: of the great stut men Chris Howell, the legendary stut man, 622 00:31:30,760 --> 00:31:33,080 Speaker 11: so Tommy knew his way around even though he's only fifteen. 623 00:31:33,400 --> 00:31:37,000 Speaker 11: He huddled us up and said, listen, I'm calling this game. 624 00:31:37,040 --> 00:31:37,680 Speaker 2: We're done here. 625 00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:40,880 Speaker 11: If I break my leg on this next football play, 626 00:31:40,920 --> 00:31:42,520 Speaker 11: I'll be on the next flight home and somebody else 627 00:31:42,520 --> 00:31:44,360 Speaker 11: will be playing Pony my favorite thing. 628 00:31:44,360 --> 00:31:44,560 Speaker 2: Though. 629 00:31:44,560 --> 00:31:48,120 Speaker 11: Francis wanted us to learn about being greasers by talking 630 00:31:48,120 --> 00:31:49,960 Speaker 11: to people who were greasers in the fifties. So me 631 00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:53,360 Speaker 11: and Cruz were hooked up with this family and had 632 00:31:53,400 --> 00:31:55,480 Speaker 11: to go spend the night at their house in the basement, 633 00:31:55,600 --> 00:31:58,080 Speaker 11: and I can just remember laying in this cot in. 634 00:31:58,120 --> 00:32:00,440 Speaker 2: The basement of a house in Tulsa with a. 635 00:32:00,400 --> 00:32:04,640 Speaker 11: Family I never knew, and just looking over at Tom 636 00:32:04,680 --> 00:32:07,240 Speaker 11: and going, what the what the fuck are we doing? 637 00:32:07,480 --> 00:32:09,760 Speaker 11: It was I mean, I understand why Francis did it, 638 00:32:09,920 --> 00:32:12,360 Speaker 11: I get it, but it was It's very odd and 639 00:32:12,920 --> 00:32:14,400 Speaker 11: not the way most people make movies. 640 00:32:23,880 --> 00:32:29,760 Speaker 1: Were you amazed at the effect that you had in 641 00:32:29,760 --> 00:32:36,480 Speaker 1: New York with style and with women and men in 642 00:32:36,520 --> 00:32:40,000 Speaker 1: the nineties. I really, you know, you're credited and justifiably so, 643 00:32:40,200 --> 00:32:44,400 Speaker 1: for really shifting a whole conversation and look was there 644 00:32:44,400 --> 00:32:47,280 Speaker 1: a moment that you looked across the street and saw 645 00:32:48,040 --> 00:32:51,800 Speaker 1: somebody and you were like, she's dressed like Carry Bradshaw. 646 00:32:52,680 --> 00:32:52,880 Speaker 6: Yeah. 647 00:32:52,920 --> 00:32:55,280 Speaker 7: I think over time and I will say that really 648 00:32:55,360 --> 00:32:58,280 Speaker 7: is Pat Field and Mollie Rogers. Originally, you know, Pat 649 00:32:58,360 --> 00:33:01,680 Speaker 7: was our original classom designer, as you know, she's incredible. 650 00:33:01,920 --> 00:33:04,640 Speaker 7: Molly Rogers was there from day one of the original show. 651 00:33:05,960 --> 00:33:09,360 Speaker 7: So I think what we all recognized the ways in 652 00:33:09,360 --> 00:33:13,080 Speaker 7: which the show was influencing life, whether it was the 653 00:33:13,160 --> 00:33:18,400 Speaker 7: flower you know, or the Carrie name plate, or you know, 654 00:33:18,720 --> 00:33:21,640 Speaker 7: walking down the street with two purses versus one, or 655 00:33:21,680 --> 00:33:26,480 Speaker 7: two pocketbooks versus one pocketbook, or you'd start to see 656 00:33:27,280 --> 00:33:30,880 Speaker 7: young women gathered four and five on a Sunday for 657 00:33:30,960 --> 00:33:33,600 Speaker 7: brunch and you'd just see more of it, or groups 658 00:33:33,640 --> 00:33:38,880 Speaker 7: of women walking. You'd see a kind of emotional life 659 00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:43,000 Speaker 7: that wasn't as visible in certain ways. But the clothes 660 00:33:43,440 --> 00:33:46,400 Speaker 7: had a huge impact, and I think that was because 661 00:33:47,320 --> 00:33:50,640 Speaker 7: Pat never and Molly patt they never felt that they 662 00:33:50,720 --> 00:33:56,600 Speaker 7: had to answer to anybody or apologize. I'll speak specifically 663 00:33:56,600 --> 00:34:00,000 Speaker 7: to Carrie who has a very specific relationship with fashion 664 00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:04,520 Speaker 7: and as well vintage. So I think you know, there 665 00:34:04,520 --> 00:34:08,240 Speaker 7: were lots of hits, and there were, in many people's opinion, 666 00:34:08,400 --> 00:34:11,160 Speaker 7: lots of misses, and to us, none of it was 667 00:34:11,160 --> 00:34:14,799 Speaker 7: a mistake. Like you had you had to take an 668 00:34:14,840 --> 00:34:21,760 Speaker 7: approach and be totally monogamous to an aesthetic idea. And 669 00:34:22,480 --> 00:34:27,680 Speaker 7: when you do that, like in anything, it's arresting. You know, 670 00:34:27,760 --> 00:34:30,520 Speaker 7: if somebody writes a book and uses a voice that 671 00:34:30,560 --> 00:34:33,520 Speaker 7: you've never read before, everybody's going to talk about it. 672 00:34:34,440 --> 00:34:38,520 Speaker 7: Or think of early images on MTV and what made 673 00:34:38,560 --> 00:34:42,680 Speaker 7: us all stop and watch a video a hundred times? 674 00:34:43,640 --> 00:34:54,560 Speaker 7: You know, music, architecture, you know, anything anything that feels fresh, unique, unseen, 675 00:34:54,600 --> 00:34:57,920 Speaker 7: but not arbitrarily. So you can't just be ridiculous, because 676 00:34:57,960 --> 00:35:00,520 Speaker 7: you can be, and it really does look like there's 677 00:35:00,560 --> 00:35:02,480 Speaker 7: any point of view or perspective. It looks just like 678 00:35:02,480 --> 00:35:07,880 Speaker 7: you're trying to be controversial exactly. So I feel like 679 00:35:08,680 --> 00:35:13,160 Speaker 7: the things that were influential because they were a real choice. 680 00:35:13,360 --> 00:35:15,800 Speaker 7: And then you you know, you know, in the beginning, 681 00:35:15,880 --> 00:35:18,240 Speaker 7: I've told destroy many times that we didn't have anything. 682 00:35:18,280 --> 00:35:22,359 Speaker 7: In the beginning, nobody would loan us anything. We were 683 00:35:22,400 --> 00:35:27,280 Speaker 7: getting most of Carrie's wardrobe from vintage and consignment shops 684 00:35:27,320 --> 00:35:31,400 Speaker 7: and century twenty one occasionally we could afford a dress 685 00:35:31,440 --> 00:35:34,640 Speaker 7: off the rack at a finer department store like Sacks. 686 00:35:35,360 --> 00:35:37,440 Speaker 2: But that was very rare for the plaza. 687 00:35:38,440 --> 00:35:40,600 Speaker 7: That was the most expensive dress they ever bought. It 688 00:35:40,640 --> 00:35:45,239 Speaker 7: was a Christian dey or simple sheath dress. I've heard 689 00:35:45,239 --> 00:35:47,960 Speaker 7: it was every anywhere from six hundred to eight hundred dollars. 690 00:35:48,000 --> 00:35:51,240 Speaker 7: But that would have been like you'd be making decisions 691 00:35:51,280 --> 00:35:53,880 Speaker 7: then okay, well if we get that, then we can't 692 00:35:53,880 --> 00:35:57,520 Speaker 7: have that. Like that wasn't alone. That was a bunchase. 693 00:35:57,719 --> 00:36:08,280 Speaker 17: Yeah, okay, So I gonna tell you yesterday. 694 00:36:08,440 --> 00:36:10,200 Speaker 4: You've probably heard the story a thousand years ago. 695 00:36:10,239 --> 00:36:13,319 Speaker 9: But once upon a time I was in Europe with 696 00:36:13,480 --> 00:36:16,319 Speaker 9: friends and it just so happened that we went on 697 00:36:16,719 --> 00:36:20,880 Speaker 9: an Audrey Hepburn movie marathon binge. 698 00:36:20,480 --> 00:36:22,560 Speaker 4: For like a long weekend where you part of you. 699 00:36:22,840 --> 00:36:28,600 Speaker 9: I was in London and flying back to America, and 700 00:36:28,719 --> 00:36:30,640 Speaker 9: I get on the plane and get myself situated. Now, 701 00:36:30,760 --> 00:36:35,880 Speaker 9: me on an airplane is about five seconds of buckling 702 00:36:35,960 --> 00:36:39,080 Speaker 9: my seatbelt, and you know, eleven and a half hours 703 00:36:39,200 --> 00:36:43,040 Speaker 9: of sleeping. And I get on the plane and I 704 00:36:43,080 --> 00:36:45,120 Speaker 9: get all you know, situated and stuff, and I'm sitting 705 00:36:45,120 --> 00:36:49,919 Speaker 9: there and there's and I was in first class, yes, 706 00:36:50,239 --> 00:36:54,080 Speaker 9: very very fancy, and not a lot of people in 707 00:36:54,120 --> 00:36:56,120 Speaker 9: first class. And I look over so I'm sitting in 708 00:36:56,120 --> 00:36:58,399 Speaker 9: a window seat, so seat next to me, and there's 709 00:36:58,480 --> 00:37:02,360 Speaker 9: middle section, and then over there is Audrey Hepburn. 710 00:37:02,480 --> 00:37:02,960 Speaker 4: Wow. 711 00:37:03,560 --> 00:37:08,040 Speaker 9: And I honestly it's like, am I making this up? 712 00:37:08,320 --> 00:37:08,799 Speaker 4: Is she really? 713 00:37:08,800 --> 00:37:09,000 Speaker 2: There? 714 00:37:09,600 --> 00:37:12,839 Speaker 4: Is you? And I was just like, go to sleep. 715 00:37:13,080 --> 00:37:15,520 Speaker 9: You got to like I didn't know what to do 716 00:37:15,560 --> 00:37:20,200 Speaker 9: with myself. I was beside myself, beside myself, and should 717 00:37:20,200 --> 00:37:20,600 Speaker 9: I talked to her? 718 00:37:20,960 --> 00:37:22,000 Speaker 4: I talk to her? I can't talk to her. I 719 00:37:22,000 --> 00:37:23,560 Speaker 4: can't talk to her. I walk into Hi. 720 00:37:23,640 --> 00:37:26,520 Speaker 9: I'm an actor and I just love you. And I 721 00:37:26,600 --> 00:37:30,520 Speaker 9: just didn't know what to do. So I did fall asleep. 722 00:37:30,680 --> 00:37:32,879 Speaker 9: And then when I wake up, when the wheels touched 723 00:37:32,880 --> 00:37:35,239 Speaker 9: the ground, which is my Yeah, do that? 724 00:37:35,280 --> 00:37:35,799 Speaker 2: Well, thank you? 725 00:37:36,040 --> 00:37:40,400 Speaker 4: And I think, okay, there's long lines it customs. 726 00:37:41,200 --> 00:37:44,279 Speaker 9: I will pull my stuff together, put a piece of 727 00:37:44,280 --> 00:37:45,839 Speaker 9: gum in my mouth and say hello. 728 00:37:47,440 --> 00:37:51,960 Speaker 4: Well, she doesn't have an American passport. She's somewhere else. 729 00:37:53,000 --> 00:37:55,439 Speaker 4: And I missed my chance. My chance is over. 730 00:37:55,560 --> 00:38:00,880 Speaker 9: And I'm so disappointed in myself and really disappointed. And 731 00:38:00,920 --> 00:38:02,719 Speaker 9: I go downstairs because this was back in the day 732 00:38:02,760 --> 00:38:05,840 Speaker 9: when I checked a bag and I go down to 733 00:38:05,880 --> 00:38:08,160 Speaker 9: baggage claim and I get my bag and as I 734 00:38:08,239 --> 00:38:10,200 Speaker 9: turn around because you know, the guy takes your ticket 735 00:38:10,280 --> 00:38:12,840 Speaker 9: and looks at the thing standing right in front of 736 00:38:12,920 --> 00:38:15,960 Speaker 9: me with her checked bag is Audrey Hepbrood. And she 737 00:38:16,080 --> 00:38:19,239 Speaker 9: turns to me and she goes, you're wonderful. 738 00:38:20,880 --> 00:38:23,879 Speaker 4: And hugs me. And I was just like, I. 739 00:38:23,840 --> 00:38:25,799 Speaker 9: Just she has no idea, she has no idea what 740 00:38:25,920 --> 00:38:28,000 Speaker 9: is happening to my entire life right now? 741 00:38:28,239 --> 00:38:29,000 Speaker 4: And I had to call my. 742 00:38:29,000 --> 00:38:32,759 Speaker 9: Friends and like so every movie there was, Charay said, 743 00:38:32,800 --> 00:38:33,719 Speaker 9: she's right there. 744 00:38:33,960 --> 00:38:36,520 Speaker 4: You know, I just could not believe. 745 00:38:36,640 --> 00:38:38,120 Speaker 2: Wow, what a cool story. 746 00:38:38,200 --> 00:38:40,680 Speaker 1: And like yet again timing it wasn't meant to be 747 00:38:40,719 --> 00:38:42,480 Speaker 1: on the plane, That's what was. 748 00:38:42,640 --> 00:38:45,919 Speaker 9: So magnificent, and unbeknownst to any of us at the time, 749 00:38:46,280 --> 00:38:52,280 Speaker 9: she was unwell and she was given a Screen Actress 750 00:38:52,280 --> 00:38:57,040 Speaker 9: Guild Lifetime Achievement Award, and back in the day when 751 00:38:57,040 --> 00:39:00,719 Speaker 9: they were these kind of smaller things whatever, and she 752 00:39:00,800 --> 00:39:03,839 Speaker 9: wrote me a letter and asked me to receive it 753 00:39:03,840 --> 00:39:07,960 Speaker 9: on her behalf. And she wrote a speech and asked 754 00:39:08,000 --> 00:39:12,239 Speaker 9: me to recite the speech. And Gregory Peck presented it, 755 00:39:13,040 --> 00:39:15,439 Speaker 9: and it was just just my whole life. 756 00:39:15,480 --> 00:39:19,239 Speaker 4: I just thought, what is happening right now? Gregory peck Is, 757 00:39:19,840 --> 00:39:23,319 Speaker 4: I'm sort of the proxy for Audrey Hepburn, what is 758 00:39:23,360 --> 00:39:26,640 Speaker 4: going on? And I read this beautiful speech that she'd written. 759 00:39:27,480 --> 00:39:30,279 Speaker 9: I mean it was I kind of forget that even 760 00:39:30,320 --> 00:39:33,360 Speaker 9: happened to me because it was so it just sounds 761 00:39:33,440 --> 00:39:37,520 Speaker 9: like fiction, like, oh so I'm on this plane, you know. 762 00:39:37,680 --> 00:39:40,160 Speaker 9: I mean it just it sounds like a made up story, 763 00:39:40,239 --> 00:39:41,240 Speaker 9: but it all happened. 764 00:39:41,800 --> 00:39:42,239 Speaker 2: I love that. 765 00:39:42,320 --> 00:39:44,680 Speaker 5: And she was, you know, I mean, honest to God 766 00:39:44,680 --> 00:39:46,879 Speaker 5: when you look at like the epitome. 767 00:39:46,400 --> 00:39:49,320 Speaker 4: Of class class. She just was so elegant. 768 00:39:49,480 --> 00:39:53,359 Speaker 2: And she was elegant from Roman holiday on just and. 769 00:39:53,560 --> 00:39:56,400 Speaker 4: Use and all of it. I mean amazing. 770 00:40:06,160 --> 00:40:09,040 Speaker 1: As we wind down our retrospective, I want to bring 771 00:40:09,080 --> 00:40:12,120 Speaker 1: it back to the heart of the show food. Let's 772 00:40:12,160 --> 00:40:14,920 Speaker 1: go back to the very beginning and hear a clip 773 00:40:15,160 --> 00:40:19,720 Speaker 1: from our first episode ever with Scarlett Johansson at via Carota. 774 00:40:20,840 --> 00:40:25,040 Speaker 1: Oh and spoiler alert, I'm actually sitting at the Carlisle 775 00:40:25,120 --> 00:40:29,160 Speaker 1: Hotel right now recording another interview for our next season 776 00:40:29,560 --> 00:40:32,880 Speaker 1: coming in twenty twenty four. So thanks again for pulling 777 00:40:32,960 --> 00:40:38,320 Speaker 1: up a chair and we'll see you next year. We 778 00:40:38,440 --> 00:40:40,959 Speaker 1: let us talk about food versus you know, I grew 779 00:40:41,040 --> 00:40:42,040 Speaker 1: up in our house. 780 00:40:41,880 --> 00:40:43,840 Speaker 2: Where we never saw my dad who's os in the restaurant, 781 00:40:43,880 --> 00:40:45,279 Speaker 2: so we never end there together. 782 00:40:45,160 --> 00:40:47,960 Speaker 1: As a family, and my mother would go paint the 783 00:40:47,960 --> 00:40:52,520 Speaker 1: picture of the young siblings kind of in because you 784 00:40:52,520 --> 00:40:53,560 Speaker 1: guys grew up in the show. 785 00:40:53,719 --> 00:40:56,600 Speaker 18: We grew up in the West Village, West Village, and 786 00:40:56,880 --> 00:40:59,160 Speaker 18: only we moved around a lot before that, but we 787 00:40:59,560 --> 00:41:03,399 Speaker 18: eventually settled in West like when I was like ten, 788 00:41:03,800 --> 00:41:08,600 Speaker 18: and we lived in a lower middle and Come housing project. 789 00:41:09,600 --> 00:41:12,600 Speaker 18: And you know, we didn't eat out ever because we 790 00:41:12,800 --> 00:41:13,799 Speaker 18: never had money. 791 00:41:13,560 --> 00:41:16,080 Speaker 12: To My mom did most of the cooking. 792 00:41:15,719 --> 00:41:19,000 Speaker 18: At home when I was little, and she had her 793 00:41:19,320 --> 00:41:23,840 Speaker 18: kind of meals on rotation. I think she enjoyed cooking 794 00:41:25,040 --> 00:41:28,680 Speaker 18: to some extent. My dad really enjoyed cooking. And my 795 00:41:28,760 --> 00:41:34,319 Speaker 18: dad was a really great cook. His first wife was Italians, 796 00:41:34,440 --> 00:41:37,520 Speaker 18: and like made an amazing like putinesque and all those 797 00:41:37,680 --> 00:41:38,760 Speaker 18: like delicious sauces. 798 00:41:38,840 --> 00:41:38,920 Speaker 1: Like. 799 00:41:38,960 --> 00:41:40,600 Speaker 2: My dad was great at that, and. 800 00:41:42,280 --> 00:41:45,480 Speaker 4: We all loved to eat like. My family is a 801 00:41:45,520 --> 00:41:49,040 Speaker 4: foodie family. We you know, my sister and I both 802 00:41:49,040 --> 00:41:51,959 Speaker 4: loved to cook together. My sister is an excellent cook. 803 00:41:52,120 --> 00:41:54,879 Speaker 1: You growing up in New York. I feel like if 804 00:41:54,960 --> 00:41:59,120 Speaker 1: we were decades apart for the same Burrow, I would 805 00:41:59,160 --> 00:42:01,880 Speaker 1: have loved you, you would have been. 806 00:42:00,960 --> 00:42:01,640 Speaker 2: You gave us right. 807 00:42:07,440 --> 00:42:11,080 Speaker 4: I'm really honored an amazing interview. 808 00:42:11,239 --> 00:42:13,480 Speaker 2: I am, yes, thank you. 809 00:42:13,800 --> 00:42:16,000 Speaker 16: It's so natural and it's like butter. 810 00:42:16,160 --> 00:42:22,560 Speaker 1: It's wonderful, very exactly, but it's very easy to sit 811 00:42:22,640 --> 00:42:23,359 Speaker 1: with someone you. 812 00:42:23,320 --> 00:42:24,920 Speaker 2: Love, you admire. 813 00:42:25,360 --> 00:42:28,560 Speaker 1: Thank you, and I hope that everyone enjoyed today. 814 00:42:28,760 --> 00:42:29,960 Speaker 2: Thank you, it was wonderful. 815 00:42:30,040 --> 00:42:34,200 Speaker 16: Thank you so much of this highly I love you 816 00:42:34,520 --> 00:42:39,239 Speaker 16: deserve every car. 817 00:42:50,160 --> 00:42:52,840 Speaker 1: Table for two with Bruce Bosi is produced by iHeart 818 00:42:52,920 --> 00:42:57,160 Speaker 1: Radio seven three seven Park and Airmrail. 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