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Speaker 1: From UFOs to psychic powers and government conspiracies. History is

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Speaker 1: riddled with unexplained events. You can turn back now or

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Speaker 1: learn the stuff they don't want you to know. M

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Speaker 1: welcome back to the show. My name is Matt, my

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Speaker 1: name is They call me Ben. We're joined with our

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Speaker 1: super producer Paul Deckett. Most importantly, you are you. You

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Speaker 1: are here, and that makes this stuff they don't want

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Speaker 1: you to know. It's a little bit difficult for the

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Speaker 1: three of us opening this show to not speak in

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Speaker 1: a Transatlantic accent, which all of us love, and I

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Speaker 1: would say the three of us are pretty good at it,

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Speaker 1: although Paul might be the best so far. Yeah, you're

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Speaker 1: really shining with that today, Paul, uh. Today's subject requires

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Speaker 1: us to travel back in time, back to nineteen fifty seven,

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Speaker 1: the dawn of what is called the Space Age, nineteen

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Speaker 1: here it is. At six hundred miles the Halftime satellite

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Speaker 1: with intermediate range missiles. The magic of President Eisenhower was

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Speaker 1: the successful launching of the Atlas intercontinental missile, an answer

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Speaker 1: the space eight. Okay, so what we heard there was

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Speaker 1: that was covered up for a long time. But in

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Speaker 1: this period of time during the Cold War, the US

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Speaker 1: idea of being beaten out of the space race. That

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Speaker 1: That's it. It's just the next battlefield. At least that

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Speaker 1: Space space. It's simultaneously yea and oh god, well we

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Speaker 1: It's it's a confusing thing. NASA is a little more peaceful.

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Speaker 1: They're not really a force. They're more just like neutral.

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Speaker 1: It was originally just called ARPA, just Advanced Research Projects Agency,

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Speaker 1: my insurance premiums go there we go. Yeah, that's a

426
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Speaker 1: concern too. Plus we imagine you have no control over

427
00:26:51,760 --> 00:26:54,440
Speaker 1: who sees this and they're going to sell it back

428
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Speaker 1: and forth. Well, it's the same thing with like the

429
00:26:56,440 --> 00:26:58,520
Speaker 1: idea of a pre existing condition, right, Like, as soon

430
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Speaker 1: as you get diagnosed with something um then it's like

431
00:27:01,480 --> 00:27:03,760
Speaker 1: on your like permanent health record. And this is just

432
00:27:03,800 --> 00:27:07,240
Speaker 1: an escalation of that, right And that could in a

433
00:27:07,320 --> 00:27:10,840
Speaker 1: in a world be a problem for some people getting insured.

434
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Speaker 1: Like right now it's on the books that you can't

435
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Speaker 1: get messed with for having a pre existing condition, but

436
00:27:15,520 --> 00:27:18,040
Speaker 1: that could change, you know, right right, And that was

437
00:27:18,080 --> 00:27:20,400
Speaker 1: a pretty recent change, very recent change, and a very

438
00:27:20,400 --> 00:27:23,760
Speaker 1: divisive change. And so in this like great unknown future

439
00:27:23,800 --> 00:27:25,840
Speaker 1: of ours, how can we depend on the kindness of

440
00:27:25,920 --> 00:27:29,600
Speaker 1: big government? It has not shown us to be a

441
00:27:29,680 --> 00:27:32,080
Speaker 1: thing in the past. How can we depend on the

442
00:27:32,160 --> 00:27:35,520
Speaker 1: kindness of big anything exactly? That's a good point, big pharmacy,

443
00:27:35,560 --> 00:27:38,639
Speaker 1: big whatever. You know, everyone's guide incentives and reasons and

444
00:27:38,680 --> 00:27:41,320
Speaker 1: they're not always looking out for you and your actual

445
00:27:41,440 --> 00:27:43,320
Speaker 1: best interests. So I don't know, I don't know that

446
00:27:43,320 --> 00:27:45,360
Speaker 1: that's a lot, Ben, that's a lot asking a lot

447
00:27:45,840 --> 00:27:48,320
Speaker 1: to just jack into the network like that. And it's like,

448
00:27:48,560 --> 00:27:50,359
Speaker 1: what are they gonna put you up on a leaderboard, Like,

449
00:27:50,400 --> 00:27:52,040
Speaker 1: are you all of a sudden gonna be like ranked

450
00:27:52,080 --> 00:27:55,040
Speaker 1: by your physical stamina and your stats? And then you

451
00:27:55,080 --> 00:27:57,760
Speaker 1: would have to pick one weirdly specific thing if you

452
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Speaker 1: wanted to get to the top of the leaderboard, you'd

453
00:28:00,280 --> 00:28:03,240
Speaker 1: have to be like most reliable cortisol emissions. At the

454
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Speaker 1: very least, I picture some sort of mission control or

455
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Speaker 1: like air traffic control hub where it's just dozens of

456
00:28:09,600 --> 00:28:11,479
Speaker 1: screens with like all of the you know, if we're

457
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Speaker 1: talking specifically a military use, all of the soldiers in

458
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Speaker 1: the field and being monitored and such. But if it

459
00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:19,960
Speaker 1: was expanded beyond that, then why then why then there's

460
00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:23,520
Speaker 1: one crazier step. There's one there's one step further, one

461
00:28:23,640 --> 00:28:27,879
Speaker 1: step beyond, and it's something that you will hear speculation about,

462
00:28:27,880 --> 00:28:31,199
Speaker 1: but you won't hear you won't hear a lot of

463
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Speaker 1: concrete admissions into this sort of research. It's so now

464
00:28:38,280 --> 00:28:41,800
Speaker 1: we're at the point where we can monitor these processes.

465
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Speaker 1: This means that it's not impossible for us to take

466
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Speaker 1: the next step and create or influence certain bodily reactions,

467
00:28:52,120 --> 00:28:55,360
Speaker 1: meaning that in the future, someone fighting in the war

468
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Speaker 1: could have their hormone levels remotely control maybe even you know,

469
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Speaker 1: like increase the heart rate, usual acuity, you know, or

470
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Speaker 1: less sleepy. Now it reminds me of a if you've

471
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Speaker 1: ever played StarCraft, a remote stimpack kind of thing where

472
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Speaker 1: somebody at command could activate the stimpacks on a whole

473
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Speaker 1: battalion or something who's about to go in on the ground,

474
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Speaker 1: and now they're just hyped and ready to go in

475
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Speaker 1: and war. Right, And I know how sci fi and

476
00:29:25,040 --> 00:29:29,800
Speaker 1: dystopian that sounds, but we have to realize that multiple

477
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Speaker 1: countries have done and will do stuff like this. World

478
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Speaker 1: War two was in some ways fueled by methamphetamine. Right,

479
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Speaker 1: And even if I if I recall, even fairly recently,

480
00:29:43,760 --> 00:29:49,520
Speaker 1: long range pilots on some military craft did take stimulants

481
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Speaker 1: to stay awake during these tremendously long flights. So I

482
00:29:54,840 --> 00:29:58,440
Speaker 1: don't know. That's the thing. If you agree to be monitored,

483
00:29:59,360 --> 00:30:02,320
Speaker 1: are you are you required to get a hardware update?

484
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Speaker 1: Is it in the terms of service that the next

485
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Speaker 1: time they decided to get something that does influence bodily

486
00:30:08,440 --> 00:30:13,040
Speaker 1: processes it might just be firmware. You never know, just

487
00:30:13,080 --> 00:30:20,480
Speaker 1: scan your arm and update the software essentially, Yeah, stuff, Yeah, yeah. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Do you think there's like a button or that you

489
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Speaker 1: could like make somebody poop themselves. I'd be cool. I'm sorry,

490
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Speaker 1: I'm just taking this to the playground. No, no, I

491
00:30:31,520 --> 00:30:32,960
Speaker 1: think it's I mean, of course you could do that,

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Speaker 1: it's not It wouldn't be that hard to make someone

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Speaker 1: evacuate their back. I think that's the whole play It's like,

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Speaker 1: you know, in theory, you could tap into these systems

495
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Speaker 1: in a way that you could do all kinds of

496
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Speaker 1: different things. Imagine a hack in a country where this

497
00:30:47,960 --> 00:30:51,320
Speaker 1: system is in place and just tens of thousands of

498
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Speaker 1: people crap themselves at once. But surely just a device

499
00:30:55,160 --> 00:30:59,600
Speaker 1: that was designed exclusively for monitoring couldn't just be flipped

500
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Speaker 1: using only technology and electronics. It would have to be

501
00:31:03,560 --> 00:31:07,240
Speaker 1: like surgically hardwired in in a way that it actually

502
00:31:07,280 --> 00:31:10,560
Speaker 1: touched all these systems and could you know, affect the

503
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Speaker 1: levels of these brain chemicals. It would have to be

504
00:31:13,720 --> 00:31:17,600
Speaker 1: a different dad. Probably. Well, here's the thing, guys, there's

505
00:31:17,680 --> 00:31:24,200
Speaker 1: another DARPA project that has to do specifically with the

506
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Speaker 1: mind being able to control various pieces of hardware and software,

507
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Speaker 1: basically using the mind as your keyboard and your mouse.

508
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Speaker 1: Which there are already some rudimentary versions of this in

509
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Speaker 1: early stage, you know, early levels of being able to

510
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Speaker 1: do this, where you are strapped into a big piece

511
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Speaker 1: of machinery that you know has a bunch of wires

512
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Speaker 1: that go from sensors on your on your head, your

513
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Speaker 1: skull into a big supercomputer and then it's crunching all

514
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Speaker 1: the numbers as as it's reading essentially your brain waves

515
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Speaker 1: and activity within sectors of your brain. Well, what DARPA

516
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Speaker 1: wants to do is have essentially a helmet, a system

517
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Speaker 1: that goes inside a helmet for every soldier and or

518
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Speaker 1: pilot and or just whoever whoever else is out on

519
00:32:10,160 --> 00:32:15,280
Speaker 1: the field where they could control systems not only possibly

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00:32:15,320 --> 00:32:20,320
Speaker 1: hardware systems, but also just seeing software and having visuals

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00:32:20,920 --> 00:32:23,480
Speaker 1: of what they're what they're looking at. Essentially, um, if

522
00:32:23,520 --> 00:32:26,360
Speaker 1: you if you ever hit option when you're playing a

523
00:32:26,400 --> 00:32:28,880
Speaker 1: first person shooter and you go to the map and

524
00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:31,000
Speaker 1: look at the overlay, they really want to be able

525
00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:34,160
Speaker 1: to do that for every soldier, and why wouldn't you?

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00:32:34,200 --> 00:32:40,440
Speaker 1: And then also imagine this is this is getting um

527
00:32:40,680 --> 00:32:44,160
Speaker 1: muddied because you'll see a lot of these programs at

528
00:32:44,200 --> 00:32:49,280
Speaker 1: some point do converge merge. So imagine a soldier that

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Speaker 1: uses this brain computer interface to orchestrate the movements of drones.

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00:32:54,600 --> 00:32:59,440
Speaker 1: So a single soldier with their own retinue of U,

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Speaker 1: A V. Different sizes and stuff, and you just you

532
00:33:04,480 --> 00:33:08,040
Speaker 1: sick Fido or the raptor or whatever on the target,

533
00:33:08,160 --> 00:33:09,840
Speaker 1: or you send it out to get a look around

534
00:33:09,840 --> 00:33:14,480
Speaker 1: the corner for you. I mean, obviously that's a great idea.

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00:33:14,760 --> 00:33:18,080
Speaker 1: If yeah, if you're in charge, and you're the one

536
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Speaker 1: with all the guns and the drones and the brain interfaces,

537
00:33:21,120 --> 00:33:24,120
Speaker 1: and now you know. Of course, the next question is

538
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Speaker 1: when does that go to the public. Are children in

539
00:33:27,640 --> 00:33:31,840
Speaker 1: the future going to grow up with drones that are

540
00:33:31,960 --> 00:33:34,600
Speaker 1: their pet drones similar to the way kids grow up

541
00:33:34,600 --> 00:33:38,120
Speaker 1: with cats and dogs today. It's possible. But but the

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00:33:38,160 --> 00:33:40,640
Speaker 1: one thing that it is currently being used for a

543
00:33:40,640 --> 00:33:43,160
Speaker 1: lot of this technology is to control something like a

544
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Speaker 1: prosthetic limb, like if you've got a full arm amte

545
00:33:47,480 --> 00:33:50,640
Speaker 1: amputation or an injury where you've lost your arm, you

546
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Speaker 1: and you've got a prosthetic on there. Through using some

547
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Speaker 1: of these systems where it can actually sense parts of

548
00:33:57,600 --> 00:34:01,520
Speaker 1: your muscles, like where there's a a neurochemical signal being

549
00:34:01,560 --> 00:34:04,040
Speaker 1: sent for your brain down to your shoulder or something.

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00:34:04,440 --> 00:34:06,880
Speaker 1: You can you can both see those at the brain

551
00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:09,240
Speaker 1: level when it's being sent and then when it reaches

552
00:34:09,440 --> 00:34:12,359
Speaker 1: your shoulder, and when you connect to those two signals up,

553
00:34:12,400 --> 00:34:15,400
Speaker 1: you can actually teach your arm and your brain to

554
00:34:15,480 --> 00:34:18,279
Speaker 1: control an entire limb that you could not be able

555
00:34:18,320 --> 00:34:20,640
Speaker 1: to do without just using your brain. It's pretty incredible.

556
00:34:20,920 --> 00:34:23,799
Speaker 1: This it's crazy cool. But then you extrapolate that to

557
00:34:23,880 --> 00:34:27,840
Speaker 1: something like an exoskeleton, or go really crazy, go to

558
00:34:27,920 --> 00:34:30,839
Speaker 1: like the Pacific Rim kind of thing where it's a

559
00:34:30,880 --> 00:34:35,040
Speaker 1: giant yeager, Like, yeah, exactly, a mech. I mean for

560
00:34:35,160 --> 00:34:37,640
Speaker 1: real though, And I know that's it's kind of silly

561
00:34:37,680 --> 00:34:41,560
Speaker 1: to even imagine that, but that's just one of the

562
00:34:41,600 --> 00:34:43,600
Speaker 1: first steps to get in. The word you're looking for

563
00:34:43,760 --> 00:34:48,799
Speaker 1: is awesome. I loved Pacific Rim. Oh, I know regrets.

564
00:34:49,560 --> 00:34:52,759
Speaker 1: I know it's a big dumb movie, and I love

565
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Speaker 1: both of them. I hope, I hope they make a

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Speaker 1: third one. I liked Vultron too. Well. It's not as

567
00:34:59,440 --> 00:35:02,960
Speaker 1: neat as the Drown because they can't wow spoilers. They

568
00:35:02,960 --> 00:35:05,920
Speaker 1: don't have a giant laser sword and they're all in

569
00:35:06,120 --> 00:35:09,440
Speaker 1: like what were they wolves or something like, I forget

570
00:35:09,480 --> 00:35:15,320
Speaker 1: what they were. They're different panthers, right, they're panthers, I think,

571
00:35:15,680 --> 00:35:17,840
Speaker 1: right in And let us know, while we're on the

572
00:35:17,920 --> 00:35:21,600
Speaker 1: subject of drones, let's examine an assumption that a lot

573
00:35:21,680 --> 00:35:25,480
Speaker 1: of people have made myself included, at least whenever the

574
00:35:25,520 --> 00:35:28,319
Speaker 1: subject comes up. That's the idea that drones are all

575
00:35:28,360 --> 00:35:33,440
Speaker 1: aerial airborne. They're not. We'll be back after a word

576
00:35:33,440 --> 00:35:42,560
Speaker 1: from our sponsor. Man, are we talking about awkwad drones?

577
00:35:42,920 --> 00:35:47,160
Speaker 1: We are, we are, No, we are talking about submarine killers.

578
00:35:47,920 --> 00:35:51,919
Speaker 1: DARPA is aiming to build a fleet of unmanned ships

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Speaker 1: called anti submarine warfare continuous trail unmanned vessels to be

580
00:35:58,120 --> 00:36:03,400
Speaker 1: pronounced active for short, and they built a prototype of it. Active,

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00:36:03,719 --> 00:36:07,560
Speaker 1: they sure did. The very first prototype was meant to

582
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Speaker 1: demonstrate the potential of what would become an entire fleet

583
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Speaker 1: of these unmanned ships called antisubmarine warfare Continuous trail Unmanned

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Speaker 1: Vessels UM beautifully to be pronounced active for short. So

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00:36:20,600 --> 00:36:24,319
Speaker 1: these thirty two ft long vessels UM were able to

586
00:36:24,440 --> 00:36:28,400
Speaker 1: reach top speeds of twenty seven knots. That's during a

587
00:36:28,440 --> 00:36:32,120
Speaker 1: test in Portland, Oregon. And uh, we'll be ready for

588
00:36:32,160 --> 00:36:35,400
Speaker 1: the open seas this summer, and apparently they're going to

589
00:36:35,520 --> 00:36:39,040
Speaker 1: launch them from the California coast And it looks like

590
00:36:39,160 --> 00:36:43,160
Speaker 1: it was actually christened on April seven, And the Navy

591
00:36:43,360 --> 00:36:48,080
Speaker 1: is pretty stoked about the potential for of an unmanned

592
00:36:48,160 --> 00:36:53,280
Speaker 1: quote unmanned vessel optimized too robustly track quiet diesel electric submarines.

593
00:36:53,320 --> 00:36:58,760
Speaker 1: That should be an acronym too. It's true, It's true.

594
00:36:59,200 --> 00:37:02,720
Speaker 1: This is stuff you can set out on the open

595
00:37:02,760 --> 00:37:06,280
Speaker 1: ocean and just program it with a couple of commands

596
00:37:06,360 --> 00:37:10,920
Speaker 1: that it will follow and yikes, yikes, that's a good

597
00:37:10,920 --> 00:37:12,600
Speaker 1: way to put it. They're just out there like a

598
00:37:13,120 --> 00:37:17,120
Speaker 1: like a blue whale just is in the ocean. It's

599
00:37:17,160 --> 00:37:21,400
Speaker 1: just there. They could do other things too. They can

600
00:37:21,440 --> 00:37:26,359
Speaker 1: supply other ships. They can search for undersea minds. Uh.

601
00:37:26,520 --> 00:37:32,000
Speaker 1: They can aid in really complex situations like oil exploration

602
00:37:32,120 --> 00:37:36,680
Speaker 1: would be one right, deep sea investigations. It's much less

603
00:37:36,680 --> 00:37:39,200
Speaker 1: of a tragedy when a disaster occurs on board an

604
00:37:39,280 --> 00:37:44,799
Speaker 1: unmanned submarine. So how long can these things be out

605
00:37:44,840 --> 00:37:49,080
Speaker 1: on the ocean? Get this three months? Three months? It's

606
00:37:49,120 --> 00:37:53,640
Speaker 1: doing pretty well in initial test. The submarine killing drone,

607
00:37:53,840 --> 00:37:56,960
Speaker 1: the prototype at least track a submarine from a kilometer away,

608
00:37:57,200 --> 00:38:01,000
Speaker 1: and the Pentagon says this is a major improvement in technology.

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Speaker 1: We have a quote from Rear Admiral Frank Drennan, the

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Speaker 1: commander of the Naval Mine and Anti Submarine Warfare Command,

611
00:38:09,040 --> 00:38:12,400
Speaker 1: picking up the quiet hum of a battery powered diesel

612
00:38:12,520 --> 00:38:16,480
Speaker 1: electric submarine in a busy coastal water is like trying

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Speaker 1: to identify the sound of a single car engine in

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Speaker 1: the din of a major city. Matt, that was a

615
00:38:23,239 --> 00:38:26,440
Speaker 1: really good Rear Admiral Frank Drennan impersonation. I have to

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Speaker 1: give you credit from them. It wasn't even really doing

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Speaker 1: a voice, but I liked it. Matt does a lot

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Speaker 1: of research into the characterization of any quote. He's sort

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Speaker 1: of the Daniel day Lewis of podcast quotry, and he

620
00:38:39,200 --> 00:38:42,640
Speaker 1: handles it with respect and dignity. If I should have

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Speaker 1: done it like this, peeking up the quiet hum of

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Speaker 1: a battery powered Decel electric submarine in a busy coastal

623
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Speaker 1: waters is like trying to identify the sound of a

624
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Speaker 1: single car engine in the din of a major city.

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Speaker 1: Is that? I love that guy. I like that guy

626
00:39:01,520 --> 00:39:04,520
Speaker 1: gives like he's a wizard. It sounds like he's he

627
00:39:04,600 --> 00:39:08,160
Speaker 1: gives crumpled butterscotch candies the people on the street. I

628
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Speaker 1: could see that. Man, what are those wethers? Original? Y? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Grandpa always had those. And then while we're on the

630
00:39:16,200 --> 00:39:20,000
Speaker 1: subject of drones, why stop at one drone? Why not

631
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Speaker 1: build a swarm? But yeah, the oh no, I've heard

632
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Speaker 1: about these. So they want to take a C one

633
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Speaker 1: thirty giant plane, huge, huge plane and have it launch

634
00:39:32,640 --> 00:39:38,440
Speaker 1: and recover swarms of drones. By some point in twenty nineteen.

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Speaker 1: They're calling it the Gremlins program, of course, named after

636
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Speaker 1: the imaginary mischievous imps that became good luck charms for

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Speaker 1: British pilots in World War Two and got a lot

638
00:39:51,880 --> 00:39:56,200
Speaker 1: of national recognition in the Twilight Zone. That's really nice

639
00:39:56,320 --> 00:39:58,200
Speaker 1: because there was a Gremlin on the plane, was on

640
00:39:58,239 --> 00:40:04,080
Speaker 1: the wing or was there. But what they're attempting to

641
00:40:04,120 --> 00:40:09,640
Speaker 1: do is lower the cost of the previous platforms. Once

642
00:40:09,680 --> 00:40:13,800
Speaker 1: they're dispatched, these drones can accomplish any number of things,

643
00:40:13,840 --> 00:40:19,320
Speaker 1: electronic warfare, surveillance, signals, intelligence, and even what you're called

644
00:40:19,560 --> 00:40:25,320
Speaker 1: kinetic effects a K. Offensive capabilities. Yes, they're so offensive

645
00:40:25,800 --> 00:40:29,600
Speaker 1: those capabilities and when they complete their mission, they fly

646
00:40:29,719 --> 00:40:32,520
Speaker 1: back to that aircraft that retrieves the mid air and

647
00:40:32,600 --> 00:40:36,359
Speaker 1: carries them home where they could be carries them back

648
00:40:36,400 --> 00:40:40,359
Speaker 1: to their headquarters where the human ground crew for now

649
00:40:40,680 --> 00:40:43,720
Speaker 1: will prepare them for their next use within twenty four hours.

650
00:40:43,960 --> 00:40:46,799
Speaker 1: It's crazy. They are videos of these gremlin swarms that

651
00:40:46,840 --> 00:40:48,920
Speaker 1: you can see, and it really it looks like a

652
00:40:49,080 --> 00:40:53,399
Speaker 1: refueling of let's see an F fourteen or whatever when

653
00:40:53,400 --> 00:40:55,440
Speaker 1: it's going to get refueled by a jet and this

654
00:40:55,600 --> 00:40:58,040
Speaker 1: just has to dock, right, the two planes have to

655
00:40:58,120 --> 00:41:02,040
Speaker 1: dock these things. They look like missiles essentially to have

656
00:41:02,440 --> 00:41:06,479
Speaker 1: a small wingspan on them, and they just automatically through

657
00:41:06,520 --> 00:41:10,880
Speaker 1: their internal systems, fly up and they attach themselves to

658
00:41:10,960 --> 00:41:13,000
Speaker 1: this plant to the other see one thirty or whatever

659
00:41:13,000 --> 00:41:15,120
Speaker 1: it is that's capturing them, just pulls them right in

660
00:41:15,320 --> 00:41:17,200
Speaker 1: and it just continues to do that, and it can

661
00:41:17,200 --> 00:41:19,279
Speaker 1: do it with I forget how many it can fit

662
00:41:19,320 --> 00:41:22,160
Speaker 1: in one see one thirty. But it was, like you said,

663
00:41:22,200 --> 00:41:24,680
Speaker 1: a swarm of these things that can be deployed and

664
00:41:24,719 --> 00:41:27,799
Speaker 1: then just brought right back. Yeah. They each have a

665
00:41:28,040 --> 00:41:31,520
Speaker 1: range of three hundred miles while carrying a sixty pound payloads.

666
00:41:31,560 --> 00:41:34,760
Speaker 1: So these aren't the same, you know, like QT drones

667
00:41:34,800 --> 00:41:36,879
Speaker 1: you can buy as a stocking stuffer. No, no, no,

668
00:41:36,880 --> 00:41:39,000
Speaker 1: no no. And the crazy thing about them is that

669
00:41:39,040 --> 00:41:42,160
Speaker 1: they all work in concert. It is literally a swarm

670
00:41:42,200 --> 00:41:45,360
Speaker 1: what what all of them? All of the information gathered

671
00:41:45,440 --> 00:41:49,040
Speaker 1: by all of them is sent back to essentially as

672
00:41:49,080 --> 00:41:52,640
Speaker 1: a single user or set of users that are looking

673
00:41:52,680 --> 00:41:54,920
Speaker 1: at all of this stuff. So it's almost like a

674
00:41:55,000 --> 00:41:57,440
Speaker 1: hive mind or something it is. And what they'll use

675
00:41:57,480 --> 00:42:00,840
Speaker 1: them for is to circle an area of operations and

676
00:42:00,840 --> 00:42:04,160
Speaker 1: and you basically have an overview of the entire area.

677
00:42:04,200 --> 00:42:06,440
Speaker 1: Is it almost like a three dimensional map or something

678
00:42:06,480 --> 00:42:09,520
Speaker 1: that they can generate or I guarantee you what I've

679
00:42:09,520 --> 00:42:12,560
Speaker 1: seen online is not a representation of what is actually

680
00:42:12,600 --> 00:42:15,239
Speaker 1: being viewed by the operators because you wouldn't want to

681
00:42:15,239 --> 00:42:20,799
Speaker 1: share that for security reasons. But it looks intense. It's

682
00:42:20,880 --> 00:42:25,239
Speaker 1: such a there's such potential for a cartoonish comic book

683
00:42:25,320 --> 00:42:29,920
Speaker 1: level supervillain like the Drone Man. No wait, we need

684
00:42:29,920 --> 00:42:36,320
Speaker 1: a met her name better than Drone dude, doctor Drone doctor.

685
00:42:36,440 --> 00:42:40,120
Speaker 1: Oh Yeah, that's it, that's the doctor Drone. Let's make

686
00:42:40,120 --> 00:42:43,520
Speaker 1: a T shirt with Dr Drone. So it's quite possible

687
00:42:44,080 --> 00:42:48,200
Speaker 1: that in the future, one person, one human being could

688
00:42:48,200 --> 00:42:53,800
Speaker 1: be with UM with assistance from some computers right and

689
00:42:53,840 --> 00:42:57,360
Speaker 1: SME algorithms, one person could control multiple drones with a

690
00:42:57,440 --> 00:43:01,319
Speaker 1: very high level of sophistication. And their big goal is

691
00:43:01,360 --> 00:43:04,480
Speaker 1: to make each of these drones cost less than five

692
00:43:04,560 --> 00:43:09,640
Speaker 1: hundred thousand dollars. Ah, so fun as we know. There

693
00:43:09,760 --> 00:43:13,359
Speaker 1: there you go, so nice. So Dr drone also has

694
00:43:13,400 --> 00:43:17,000
Speaker 1: to be pretty well off. I mean that's like a

695
00:43:17,040 --> 00:43:18,920
Speaker 1: million for two drones. Well, yeah, all you need to

696
00:43:18,920 --> 00:43:23,520
Speaker 1: do is maybe start stashing a couple trillion dollars over

697
00:43:23,560 --> 00:43:26,640
Speaker 1: the course of a couple of decades dr drone, you know,

698
00:43:26,960 --> 00:43:30,840
Speaker 1: just like the d O D did the Pentagon trillions

699
00:43:30,880 --> 00:43:33,600
Speaker 1: of dollars. I can't find the money on the books.

700
00:43:33,640 --> 00:43:38,160
Speaker 1: We just lost the palettes. Oh my god. So yeah, exactly.

701
00:43:38,239 --> 00:43:41,920
Speaker 1: And we're they're working on keeping a human body alive

702
00:43:42,239 --> 00:43:45,640
Speaker 1: after death. They're working on all of these advanced technologies

703
00:43:45,680 --> 00:43:49,560
Speaker 1: to control AI. There they are going to turn themselves

704
00:43:49,560 --> 00:43:53,520
Speaker 1: into super some things, let's call them villains for now

705
00:43:54,560 --> 00:43:58,560
Speaker 1: that will live forever. They're building. Dr drone never dies,

706
00:43:58,760 --> 00:44:01,759
Speaker 1: only sleeps. And you know what you need when you've

707
00:44:01,800 --> 00:44:05,279
Speaker 1: got a bunch of reconnaissance drones overhead that are giving

708
00:44:05,320 --> 00:44:08,600
Speaker 1: you the main macro view of everything that's going on.

709
00:44:08,800 --> 00:44:12,400
Speaker 1: What do we need? You need some tiny little spies

710
00:44:12,440 --> 00:44:16,520
Speaker 1: they can give you the micro view. That's correct. Yes,

711
00:44:17,640 --> 00:44:20,759
Speaker 1: robot insects spies. When I think of swarm, that's what

712
00:44:20,800 --> 00:44:24,200
Speaker 1: I think of, you know. Yeah, and that's this would

713
00:44:24,239 --> 00:44:27,440
Speaker 1: not be difficult to pull off. Either episode of Black

714
00:44:27,480 --> 00:44:30,160
Speaker 1: Mirror in the most recent season where there were like

715
00:44:30,560 --> 00:44:37,240
Speaker 1: tiny robot insect drones that did things. Is that the

716
00:44:37,280 --> 00:44:40,960
Speaker 1: season before? Yeah, it was in the second season. Uh,

717
00:44:41,000 --> 00:44:42,480
Speaker 1: and it was the long one. It was almost like

718
00:44:42,719 --> 00:44:45,560
Speaker 1: feature length. It was I remember this, and that's very

719
00:44:45,640 --> 00:44:49,080
Speaker 1: much we're talking about here, only a different application. Uh.

720
00:44:49,120 --> 00:44:52,120
Speaker 1: They've tested several different sorts of insects as part of

721
00:44:52,120 --> 00:44:54,279
Speaker 1: the program they call high mems, and they've tested with

722
00:44:54,320 --> 00:44:59,760
Speaker 1: flying moths and beetles, and they found that this this okay,

723
00:44:59,760 --> 00:45:05,160
Speaker 1: this it's cracked to the implantable medical tracking device. The

724
00:45:05,280 --> 00:45:07,920
Speaker 1: research shows that it is possible, through the use of

725
00:45:07,960 --> 00:45:12,520
Speaker 1: implants to control where these creatures fly. So you're not

726
00:45:12,560 --> 00:45:15,800
Speaker 1: just letting them out and then having a tiny camera

727
00:45:16,120 --> 00:45:23,000
Speaker 1: report back. You are able to force their movements and

728
00:45:23,480 --> 00:45:27,120
Speaker 1: the creepiest part about this is that through research, they

729
00:45:27,200 --> 00:45:30,000
Speaker 1: found that you cut a pupa in half. If you're

730
00:45:30,000 --> 00:45:33,840
Speaker 1: talking about a moth slash butterfly, you cut the pupa

731
00:45:33,840 --> 00:45:37,000
Speaker 1: in half. After it's been like a larva and everything,

732
00:45:37,040 --> 00:45:40,480
Speaker 1: it gets to the stage where it's about to metamorphosize

733
00:45:40,560 --> 00:45:44,360
Speaker 1: into uh, the next version, the moth or the butterfly,

734
00:45:44,719 --> 00:45:47,920
Speaker 1: and you put the implant in there at that stage,

735
00:45:48,600 --> 00:45:52,759
Speaker 1: and then the butterfly or moth develops with this implant

736
00:45:53,239 --> 00:45:58,080
Speaker 1: attached to it. Right. It is so creepy in insane

737
00:45:58,120 --> 00:46:01,960
Speaker 1: looking and imagining that because it makes you it makes

738
00:46:01,960 --> 00:46:04,960
Speaker 1: you imagine implanting a child maybe or something at a

739
00:46:04,960 --> 00:46:09,000
Speaker 1: certain stage, a human child that would then grow into

740
00:46:09,040 --> 00:46:12,920
Speaker 1: their implant. And here's the thing, we don't know if

741
00:46:13,200 --> 00:46:17,920
Speaker 1: these bugs, these robobugs are actually out in the field

742
00:46:17,960 --> 00:46:22,840
Speaker 1: now or exactly where the research has gone. You know, no,

743
00:46:23,040 --> 00:46:27,479
Speaker 1: even Snope said it's true and false. Right, Yeah, there's

744
00:46:27,480 --> 00:46:31,680
Speaker 1: a report from sixteen on inverse dot com that has

745
00:46:31,719 --> 00:46:35,120
Speaker 1: some news about this. I believe the research on something

746
00:46:35,200 --> 00:46:38,920
Speaker 1: like this began all the way back in the nineteen forties.

747
00:46:39,040 --> 00:46:42,640
Speaker 1: They just later said, hey, insects already have this figured out,

748
00:46:44,200 --> 00:46:46,560
Speaker 1: so they may be a real thing. They may be

749
00:46:46,680 --> 00:46:52,000
Speaker 1: coming to a battlefield near you and maybe you'll notice,

750
00:46:52,160 --> 00:46:54,120
Speaker 1: so let us know. If you see any bug with

751
00:46:54,239 --> 00:46:59,560
Speaker 1: really strange looking electronics on it, please send pictures. What

752
00:46:59,680 --> 00:47:05,440
Speaker 1: you probably will not see is the blimps, the airships.

753
00:47:05,719 --> 00:47:10,440
Speaker 1: Remember those in their disaster, etcetera, etcetera. Uh. The problem

754
00:47:10,520 --> 00:47:15,400
Speaker 1: with airships is that they are quite vulnerable. So despite

755
00:47:15,440 --> 00:47:20,719
Speaker 1: being a really cool way to surveil in area, or

756
00:47:20,719 --> 00:47:24,120
Speaker 1: even just a cool way to get around, the fear

757
00:47:24,160 --> 00:47:26,839
Speaker 1: of an attack on a blimp has prevented them from

758
00:47:27,080 --> 00:47:29,680
Speaker 1: becoming more common. It just takes a little bit of

759
00:47:29,680 --> 00:47:33,200
Speaker 1: a flaku cannon aimed in the right spot, right right.

760
00:47:34,080 --> 00:47:37,440
Speaker 1: So DARPA has taken over this plan and they are

761
00:47:37,480 --> 00:47:44,600
Speaker 1: building very high altitude giant, giant giant airships. They want

762
00:47:44,640 --> 00:47:50,440
Speaker 1: to make these airborne aircraft carriers, and you will likely

763
00:47:50,520 --> 00:47:54,480
Speaker 1: not see them. You will likely not know they exist

764
00:47:54,680 --> 00:47:59,719
Speaker 1: unless you get in the way of someone. It is

765
00:48:00,080 --> 00:48:03,839
Speaker 1: be because they're talking about, like you said, carrying an

766
00:48:03,960 --> 00:48:08,960
Speaker 1: entire battalion of troops and all the medical supplies, all

767
00:48:09,040 --> 00:48:12,200
Speaker 1: the supplies needed for setting up a base, all the

768
00:48:12,239 --> 00:48:16,120
Speaker 1: supplies needed for even some heavy weapons, and all these

769
00:48:16,120 --> 00:48:20,000
Speaker 1: other things all in this giant blimp, like you said,

770
00:48:20,040 --> 00:48:23,879
Speaker 1: like an aircraft carrier that just hangs out way up

771
00:48:23,880 --> 00:48:28,640
Speaker 1: there ready to deploy, and you can imagine, I don't know,

772
00:48:28,840 --> 00:48:31,680
Speaker 1: treating it like a base, essentially a mobile base where

773
00:48:31,719 --> 00:48:34,719
Speaker 1: they're just stationed there for a certain amount of time

774
00:48:34,760 --> 00:48:37,719
Speaker 1: until they're deployed, like the Helly Carrier or what's it

775
00:48:37,800 --> 00:48:41,640
Speaker 1: called in Marvel Marvel movies. I know you're talking about.

776
00:48:41,680 --> 00:48:43,480
Speaker 1: I don't know the name of it. Where like in

777
00:48:43,520 --> 00:48:46,600
Speaker 1: a BioShock the second BioShock, I didn't know the third

778
00:48:46,600 --> 00:48:48,720
Speaker 1: BioShock game, the one where with with all the blimps,

779
00:48:49,600 --> 00:48:52,120
Speaker 1: is that the Americana one there were a lot of

780
00:48:52,120 --> 00:48:55,879
Speaker 1: blimps deploying little fighter jets. Yeah, it's like that, but

781
00:48:56,000 --> 00:48:59,520
Speaker 1: in this case it's a giant city. I guess it

782
00:48:59,560 --> 00:49:02,399
Speaker 1: was kind of like that kind of the other thing.

783
00:49:02,440 --> 00:49:05,920
Speaker 1: That's cool. Um, if we're doing pop culture references, do

784
00:49:05,960 --> 00:49:09,759
Speaker 1: you guys remember that film, UH want Sky Captain in

785
00:49:09,800 --> 00:49:12,520
Speaker 1: the World of Tomorrow? Oh no, I don't want to

786
00:49:12,520 --> 00:49:15,840
Speaker 1: remember that one. Are you talking about the one? Wait? Okay,

787
00:49:16,040 --> 00:49:17,799
Speaker 1: I never saw a movie. I need to see that movie.

788
00:49:17,800 --> 00:49:22,279
Speaker 1: It's gorgeous from a uh cinematography design perspective. I think

789
00:49:22,280 --> 00:49:24,719
Speaker 1: it's got really cool aesthetic. Sky Captain, for sure, they

790
00:49:24,760 --> 00:49:26,319
Speaker 1: had a lot of big blimps though, I think too

791
00:49:26,400 --> 00:49:28,160
Speaker 1: it did. Yeah, but you said wanted, You mean like

792
00:49:28,400 --> 00:49:32,080
Speaker 1: with Angelina Jolie. This is the she was in Skycaptain.

793
00:49:32,120 --> 00:49:36,960
Speaker 1: Too cool eye patch if I recall. Yeah, so like

794
00:49:37,000 --> 00:49:39,319
Speaker 1: spinning the bullet or whatever you I forget what they

795
00:49:39,360 --> 00:49:41,600
Speaker 1: called it. Yeah, I don't remember what they called it.

796
00:49:41,640 --> 00:49:44,880
Speaker 1: The comic book adaptation holds up a little bit better.

797
00:49:44,920 --> 00:49:50,680
Speaker 1: I think, right, self guided bullets in the film adaptation Wanted,

798
00:49:51,320 --> 00:49:55,080
Speaker 1: the assassins are able to use the powers of their

799
00:49:55,120 --> 00:49:59,680
Speaker 1: mind to change the direction the trajectory of a bullet

800
00:49:59,719 --> 00:50:05,960
Speaker 1: after or it's fired. Pretty neat, Yeah, weirdly specific superpower.

801
00:50:07,120 --> 00:50:09,760
Speaker 1: DARPA is working on it. DARPA is working on making

802
00:50:09,760 --> 00:50:14,640
Speaker 1: that in real life, building ammunition with a guidance system

803
00:50:14,719 --> 00:50:18,799
Speaker 1: to keep it on target. Right now, the specifics about

804
00:50:18,800 --> 00:50:22,160
Speaker 1: how that works are classified and probably will be classified

805
00:50:22,560 --> 00:50:25,399
Speaker 1: of and it might be a situation where we don't

806
00:50:25,600 --> 00:50:29,160
Speaker 1: learn that this technology exists until we hear reports of

807
00:50:29,200 --> 00:50:33,239
Speaker 1: it being used in war or in a conflict. Yeah,

808
00:50:33,680 --> 00:50:36,520
Speaker 1: kind of like we didn't really know that people had

809
00:50:36,560 --> 00:50:41,040
Speaker 1: stealth helicopters until one crashed. Dude, there is a thing.

810
00:50:41,480 --> 00:50:45,400
Speaker 1: There's it's a website called futurism dot com and they're

811
00:50:45,400 --> 00:50:51,040
Speaker 1: purporting to have a video of what they're calling exact

812
00:50:51,080 --> 00:50:57,520
Speaker 1: oh uh, the Extreme Accuracy Tasked Ordinance. And it's a

813
00:50:57,600 --> 00:51:03,200
Speaker 1: system that they're demonstrating where it's showing a guided bullet. Whoa,

814
00:51:03,239 --> 00:51:06,400
Speaker 1: And it's pretty crazy. So I don't know if I

815
00:51:06,480 --> 00:51:10,759
Speaker 1: believe this. Yeah. So it's showing a red line which

816
00:51:10,760 --> 00:51:13,680
Speaker 1: is the trajectory of where the bullet as it's being

817
00:51:13,719 --> 00:51:18,040
Speaker 1: fired and sent down towards this target. It shows you

818
00:51:18,040 --> 00:51:20,480
Speaker 1: where it would be, and then it shows the moving

819
00:51:20,520 --> 00:51:23,280
Speaker 1: target way in the distance, and it shows the bullet

820
00:51:23,640 --> 00:51:27,920
Speaker 1: change directions and follow the target and actually hit the target.

821
00:51:29,000 --> 00:51:32,879
Speaker 1: That's crazy, that's insane, I don't. I mean, it's from

822
00:51:33,000 --> 00:51:36,680
Speaker 1: DARPA TV. It's from their their actual YouTube channel, so

823
00:51:36,719 --> 00:51:38,799
Speaker 1: they'll show it in action, but they won't tell you

824
00:51:38,960 --> 00:51:41,879
Speaker 1: how the nuts and bolts of how it works. How

825
00:51:41,960 --> 00:51:45,320
Speaker 1: is this technology much different from like guided missiles for example,

826
00:51:45,400 --> 00:51:48,920
Speaker 1: or like you know, heat heat seekers or whatever. It's

827
00:51:48,960 --> 00:51:52,840
Speaker 1: just more micro technology. Oh you're talking about the bullet.

828
00:51:52,880 --> 00:51:55,040
Speaker 1: The bullet, Yeah, I mean that's essentially what it is.

829
00:51:55,160 --> 00:51:57,240
Speaker 1: There are some bullets you can get that are considered

830
00:51:57,520 --> 00:52:03,320
Speaker 1: rocket bullets essentially that actually shoot out exhaust as they're firing,

831
00:52:03,440 --> 00:52:06,360
Speaker 1: being fired through the air. UM. So it's kind of

832
00:52:06,400 --> 00:52:10,560
Speaker 1: like this. It's just somehow there is a either a

833
00:52:10,840 --> 00:52:15,120
Speaker 1: small CPU or something that's guiding it, like that's actually

834
00:52:15,160 --> 00:52:19,000
Speaker 1: inside the piece of metal that you're firing from a weapon, uh,

835
00:52:19,400 --> 00:52:23,720
Speaker 1: working with some other system that's tracking whatever the target is. Um.

836
00:52:23,719 --> 00:52:27,719
Speaker 1: It's just it seems so futuristic. And these are just

837
00:52:27,800 --> 00:52:33,200
Speaker 1: a few of the fascinating, frightening, sometimes inspiring things that

838
00:52:33,360 --> 00:52:37,279
Speaker 1: DARPA is working on. We do wanna be clear that

839
00:52:37,320 --> 00:52:42,919
Speaker 1: a lot of what DARPA does is just facilitate independent researchers. Yeah,

840
00:52:43,000 --> 00:52:44,959
Speaker 1: it gives you money. It gives you money, it gives

841
00:52:45,000 --> 00:52:48,520
Speaker 1: you support, and it gives you direction. Right, yes, But

842
00:52:49,320 --> 00:52:51,440
Speaker 1: it is one of those things where you can see

843
00:52:51,480 --> 00:52:58,080
Speaker 1: all of these varying, compartmentalized programs where perhaps purposefully DARPA

844
00:52:58,200 --> 00:53:01,440
Speaker 1: makes it uh unknown to the left arm with the

845
00:53:01,520 --> 00:53:04,560
Speaker 1: right arm is doing and all of that situation, because

846
00:53:04,640 --> 00:53:09,359
Speaker 1: if you add up some of these programs, you're not

847
00:53:09,400 --> 00:53:12,840
Speaker 1: only getting super soldiers. You're not only getting dr drone

848
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Speaker 1: dr drone. But it's it genuinely creeps me out just

849
00:53:17,760 --> 00:53:21,880
Speaker 1: thinking that a single force or a country or power

850
00:53:22,000 --> 00:53:24,520
Speaker 1: will have access to these things at some point in

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Speaker 1: the future. But there's another argument to be made here,

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00:53:27,880 --> 00:53:31,000
Speaker 1: which is dangerous. It's kind of sticky. The argument is

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Speaker 1: if we don't do it, says insert country here, then

854
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Speaker 1: someone else will. It's too good of an argument. We

855
00:53:40,600 --> 00:53:44,400
Speaker 1: either build the bullets or we get shot by them. Yeah,

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00:53:44,719 --> 00:53:48,040
Speaker 1: and it's I mean, it's kind of a zero sum

857
00:53:48,200 --> 00:53:52,480
Speaker 1: equation way of thinking, but it is it does have

858
00:53:52,560 --> 00:53:56,160
Speaker 1: some validity to it. And the truth is that Dara

859
00:53:56,400 --> 00:53:59,839
Speaker 1: is very uh p diddy about this. Can't stop, won't stop,

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Speaker 1: you know what I mean. It's a it's this feedback

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00:54:03,600 --> 00:54:08,520
Speaker 1: loop of research, success and investment, and it is an

862
00:54:08,560 --> 00:54:12,759
Speaker 1: important thing. We can't stress enough. They're tremendous medical innovations

863
00:54:12,920 --> 00:54:15,680
Speaker 1: that occur because of this sort of research. But it

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00:54:15,680 --> 00:54:17,680
Speaker 1: goes hand in hand with these other goals a nation

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Speaker 1: state would have, I mean, to summon up when we

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Speaker 1: talk about what DARPA is working on, we don't know

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00:54:24,080 --> 00:54:27,080
Speaker 1: what we don't know, but we can guess, as you said, Matt,

868
00:54:27,160 --> 00:54:29,960
Speaker 1: we can put pieces together. You can write to DARPA

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00:54:30,040 --> 00:54:34,160
Speaker 1: directly and ask them. They have a great PR department,

870
00:54:34,560 --> 00:54:37,120
Speaker 1: but they're very clear when they're like, well, some things

871
00:54:37,239 --> 00:54:41,560
Speaker 1: have to be classified because it's a matter of national security.

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00:54:41,600 --> 00:54:44,839
Speaker 1: That does not automatically mean they're devious, but it does

873
00:54:44,880 --> 00:54:46,719
Speaker 1: mean that there is stuff they don't want you to know.

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Speaker 1: But they are working with a ton of independent contractors.

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Speaker 1: So maybe you could get more information from someone on

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00:54:54,280 --> 00:55:01,440
Speaker 1: that lower tier and just saying good, good information on everyone. Indeed,

877
00:55:02,280 --> 00:55:05,040
Speaker 1: so let us know what you think is dark, bad,

878
00:55:05,040 --> 00:55:07,279
Speaker 1: balance a good thing. Do you think that there are

879
00:55:07,360 --> 00:55:11,279
Speaker 1: some programs that are so secret that no one knows

880
00:55:11,320 --> 00:55:14,680
Speaker 1: about them? There's got to be I'm sure there's something,

881
00:55:14,719 --> 00:55:17,200
Speaker 1: but I wonder what it is. You know, maybe the

882
00:55:17,280 --> 00:55:19,640
Speaker 1: real secret is just not what they're doing, but how

883
00:55:19,680 --> 00:55:22,759
Speaker 1: far along the research has gone, right that I can

884
00:55:22,840 --> 00:55:25,080
Speaker 1: totally see that, And I could also see the big

885
00:55:25,120 --> 00:55:27,960
Speaker 1: secret being how the systems are working together or how

886
00:55:28,000 --> 00:55:32,200
Speaker 1: the projects are fitting together. That's like the lowest levels

887
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Speaker 1: of the secret basis. So we'd like to hear we'd

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00:55:37,080 --> 00:55:39,080
Speaker 1: like to hear your opinion. I also want to recommend

889
00:55:39,120 --> 00:55:44,360
Speaker 1: darpast podcast. The podcast, Yeah, it's pretty interesting. And there

890
00:55:44,400 --> 00:55:48,080
Speaker 1: are some great explanations by various scientists and project man.

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00:55:48,280 --> 00:55:50,560
Speaker 1: And they called the DARPA Cast because that's a missed opportunity.

892
00:55:50,600 --> 00:55:53,440
Speaker 1: If it's not, is it just the dark pap podcast.

893
00:55:54,480 --> 00:55:58,200
Speaker 1: Come on, guys, Yeah, it's just the DARPA podcast. You

894
00:55:58,200 --> 00:56:00,279
Speaker 1: should write to them, say DARPA Cast, a lot of

895
00:56:00,320 --> 00:56:05,080
Speaker 1: comment card, maybe a comment card. Maybe they'll join this

896
00:56:05,200 --> 00:56:08,680
Speaker 1: stuff media network. Maybe we can bring them in. I

897
00:56:08,680 --> 00:56:11,799
Speaker 1: would love to hear that. We'd also love to hear

898
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Speaker 1: from you, So let us know your thoughts on Instagram, Facebook, Twitter,

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Speaker 1: find us on our Facebook page. Here's where it gets crazy.

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Speaker 1: move up the rankings, have a little more visibility. It's

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Speaker 1: it's it's very kind and we would appreciate. It's all

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Speaker 1: about that algorithm. And if you'd like to talk to

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Speaker 1: us directly, you can call us. We are one eight

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Speaker 1: three three st d w y t K get in

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Speaker 1: the tailent and that it's just stuff they don't want

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Speaker 1: you to know what an acronym but in in numbers,

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Speaker 1: and if you don't want to do any of that stuff,

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Speaker 1: check it out. The best way to reach us is

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Speaker 1: to send us a good old fashioned email. We are

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