1 00:00:05,080 --> 00:00:06,760 Speaker 1: Okay, this is Annie and Samantha. 2 00:00:06,800 --> 00:00:09,240 Speaker 2: Welcome to Stuff I Never Told You. Production by Hurt Radio. 3 00:00:18,680 --> 00:00:22,079 Speaker 1: And today's Monday Mini is sponsored by my current rage 4 00:00:22,079 --> 00:00:26,320 Speaker 1: and frustration. So trigger warning. We are talking about anti 5 00:00:26,320 --> 00:00:28,720 Speaker 1: trans rhetoric and hatred as well as so many other 6 00:00:28,800 --> 00:00:33,040 Speaker 1: things that this current administration is viewing US conservatism and 7 00:00:33,120 --> 00:00:35,800 Speaker 1: Republican but is a thinly veiled attempt to pushing their 8 00:00:35,800 --> 00:00:40,239 Speaker 1: hate and white patriarchal supremacy. So there you go. I 9 00:00:40,280 --> 00:00:42,440 Speaker 1: will tell you if you are not from the trans community, 10 00:00:42,479 --> 00:00:44,000 Speaker 1: I think you need to listen, and I think we 11 00:00:44,720 --> 00:00:47,480 Speaker 1: have to keep paying attention. We are tired, we are exhausted, 12 00:00:47,560 --> 00:00:50,880 Speaker 1: we are over the top. I get it, but we 13 00:00:50,920 --> 00:00:53,640 Speaker 1: need to be reminded of what we're trying to fight against, 14 00:00:54,640 --> 00:00:56,760 Speaker 1: and just to remember there are organizations out there that 15 00:00:56,800 --> 00:01:00,000 Speaker 1: are fighting this. So with that, this is very much 16 00:01:00,080 --> 00:01:03,400 Speaker 1: much a current affairs conversation. So we're gonna timestamp it. 17 00:01:04,080 --> 00:01:07,000 Speaker 1: We are recording this on July first, twenty twenty five, 18 00:01:08,160 --> 00:01:12,400 Speaker 1: so some things may change between us publishing it, which 19 00:01:12,440 --> 00:01:16,840 Speaker 1: would be on July seventh, Monday, and hopefully I'm gonna 20 00:01:16,840 --> 00:01:20,160 Speaker 1: put this out there in hopes that we will change 21 00:01:20,640 --> 00:01:24,240 Speaker 1: some good changes may be occurring as you listen to 22 00:01:24,319 --> 00:01:31,720 Speaker 1: this in the future. I wrote that in the script. Anyway, 23 00:01:32,240 --> 00:01:35,320 Speaker 1: it's small joyce, but I'm very hopeful that this will 24 00:01:35,360 --> 00:01:37,280 Speaker 1: be studied as to oh my god, can you believe 25 00:01:37,319 --> 00:01:41,200 Speaker 1: that happened? And look at how far we've come. This 26 00:01:41,280 --> 00:01:43,479 Speaker 1: is what I'm hoping for in the future. So we're 27 00:01:43,560 --> 00:01:45,679 Speaker 1: just gonna put this as a preservation of we see 28 00:01:45,680 --> 00:01:48,120 Speaker 1: what you've done, and we're gonna name the bad people. 29 00:01:49,280 --> 00:01:53,440 Speaker 1: All right. So today marks the beginning of several changes 30 00:01:53,520 --> 00:01:57,320 Speaker 1: in the Georgia state law, including the implementation of the 31 00:01:57,440 --> 00:02:00,960 Speaker 1: Raleigh Gains Act or Senate Bill one or House Bill 32 00:02:01,040 --> 00:02:05,080 Speaker 1: two sixty seven. So apparently they're both under that and 33 00:02:05,240 --> 00:02:07,400 Speaker 1: what is this law exactly? Yes, I took a day 34 00:02:07,480 --> 00:02:09,799 Speaker 1: breath because I'm very frustrated and angry. There may be 35 00:02:09,919 --> 00:02:12,360 Speaker 1: cursing Christina's I might I might give you some like 36 00:02:13,600 --> 00:02:18,359 Speaker 1: real real editing wars here, because I might go off, 37 00:02:18,400 --> 00:02:22,679 Speaker 1: but I'm trying not to. So here's how the Lieutenant 38 00:02:22,720 --> 00:02:26,679 Speaker 1: Governor of Georgia their site describes it. Quote Senate Bill one, 39 00:02:26,919 --> 00:02:29,959 Speaker 1: the Riley Gains Act of twenty twenty five is based 40 00:02:30,040 --> 00:02:34,480 Speaker 1: on legislative findings relating to the need to protect girls 41 00:02:34,800 --> 00:02:37,880 Speaker 1: and women's athletics and the work of the Senate Special 42 00:02:37,919 --> 00:02:42,000 Speaker 1: Committee on the Protection of Women's Sports, which Lieutenant Governor 43 00:02:42,120 --> 00:02:47,040 Speaker 1: Jones created and appointed. By enacting Senate Bill one, Georgia 44 00:02:47,080 --> 00:02:51,160 Speaker 1: would join the twenty six other states that protect women's sports. 45 00:02:51,760 --> 00:02:53,960 Speaker 1: And we want to pin that last bit that currently 46 00:02:54,000 --> 00:02:57,680 Speaker 1: twenty six other states have enacted similar bills under the 47 00:02:57,720 --> 00:03:02,320 Speaker 1: guise of quote protecting women's sports. I take a pause 48 00:03:02,360 --> 00:03:05,400 Speaker 1: because I'm gonna start cursing. In a second, check in 49 00:03:05,440 --> 00:03:07,000 Speaker 1: with you, Annie. Are you about to curse? Are you 50 00:03:07,120 --> 00:03:09,919 Speaker 1: just glad that I'm not not going off and throwing things? 51 00:03:11,760 --> 00:03:12,079 Speaker 2: Yes? 52 00:03:12,320 --> 00:03:16,920 Speaker 1: Generally growth anyway. But to put it in more detail, 53 00:03:17,000 --> 00:03:20,200 Speaker 1: within the twenty four page legislation, they require the usage 54 00:03:20,400 --> 00:03:23,320 Speaker 1: of the term sex instead of gender and to keep 55 00:03:23,360 --> 00:03:27,080 Speaker 1: the binary male and female as assigned by birth. And 56 00:03:27,280 --> 00:03:29,720 Speaker 1: we all know about this rhetoric. We know this, We 57 00:03:29,840 --> 00:03:33,760 Speaker 1: know this usage of keeping everything same sex as they 58 00:03:33,760 --> 00:03:37,160 Speaker 1: write it as in like only males in male sports only, 59 00:03:37,200 --> 00:03:41,960 Speaker 1: women in women's sports only, males only, females not women. 60 00:03:42,080 --> 00:03:47,000 Speaker 1: I apologize females because you know, and it allows for 61 00:03:47,080 --> 00:03:50,720 Speaker 1: families and individuals to sue organizations they feel are infringing 62 00:03:50,960 --> 00:03:56,240 Speaker 1: on these said rights and protections. Also, I would like 63 00:03:56,240 --> 00:03:58,640 Speaker 1: to know I did not talk about the many incidents 64 00:03:58,680 --> 00:04:03,080 Speaker 1: of them accusing what they would call a signed at 65 00:04:03,120 --> 00:04:07,480 Speaker 1: birth women male females of beemles and going after them, 66 00:04:07,560 --> 00:04:10,160 Speaker 1: harassing them, beating them, killing them, murdering them, and also 67 00:04:10,720 --> 00:04:14,760 Speaker 1: using this to murder trans women. Okay, moving off. So 68 00:04:14,920 --> 00:04:17,440 Speaker 1: the peach Pundit dot com, I'm not really sure about 69 00:04:17,440 --> 00:04:19,760 Speaker 1: the site, but they were pretty straightforward. So I liked 70 00:04:19,760 --> 00:04:21,680 Speaker 1: what they had because that was able to be succinct 71 00:04:21,680 --> 00:04:23,880 Speaker 1: because there was a lot of information in that legislation. 72 00:04:24,320 --> 00:04:27,320 Speaker 1: But the peach pundit dot com highlights different sections within 73 00:04:27,360 --> 00:04:30,560 Speaker 1: the Act and some things to note. Again, the whole 74 00:04:30,600 --> 00:04:34,359 Speaker 1: thing is infuriating and I wanted to throw my computer anyway, 75 00:04:34,440 --> 00:04:37,880 Speaker 1: So the Professional Status Commission is authorized to investigate complaints 76 00:04:37,920 --> 00:04:41,840 Speaker 1: of non compliance, meaning sanctions may be imposed for violations. 77 00:04:42,160 --> 00:04:45,160 Speaker 1: Parents or legal guardians may file a legal claim against 78 00:04:45,160 --> 00:04:48,600 Speaker 1: a school or school system if a A student encounters 79 00:04:48,640 --> 00:04:51,800 Speaker 1: a member of the opposite sex in a dressroom or 80 00:04:51,960 --> 00:04:55,600 Speaker 1: changing area. Due to a school's permission, b a student 81 00:04:55,680 --> 00:04:58,320 Speaker 1: is required to share sleeping quarters with a member of 82 00:04:58,360 --> 00:05:03,120 Speaker 1: the opposite sex who is not a family member. Another 83 00:05:03,120 --> 00:05:06,600 Speaker 1: part is another Any student, parent, school, or athletic association 84 00:05:06,760 --> 00:05:09,760 Speaker 1: may file a private cause of action if they suffer 85 00:05:09,880 --> 00:05:14,520 Speaker 1: direct or indirect harm due to one a violation of 86 00:05:14,520 --> 00:05:19,920 Speaker 1: the restrictions or athletic participation to retaliation for reporting a violation, 87 00:05:21,360 --> 00:05:25,200 Speaker 1: which is ironic by the way. Yeah, yeah, okay. And 88 00:05:25,240 --> 00:05:28,200 Speaker 1: then there's another part which the bill defines sex as 89 00:05:28,240 --> 00:05:32,560 Speaker 1: either a male or female based on biological characteristics observed 90 00:05:32,600 --> 00:05:36,719 Speaker 1: at or before birth, meaning it replaces gender with sex 91 00:05:36,800 --> 00:05:41,080 Speaker 1: and all applicable Georgia laws and with that any laws 92 00:05:41,080 --> 00:05:43,960 Speaker 1: that conflict with the provisions of this act are repealed. 93 00:05:44,480 --> 00:05:48,440 Speaker 1: That's something we need to remember, yep, because that's just blanket, 94 00:05:48,960 --> 00:05:51,920 Speaker 1: very easy to use. Okay. So those are some of 95 00:05:52,000 --> 00:05:53,719 Speaker 1: the things that I'm like, yeah, this is there's so 96 00:05:53,760 --> 00:05:56,240 Speaker 1: many other things in this it's really really harmful that 97 00:05:56,320 --> 00:05:58,000 Speaker 1: I was just like, but let's look at this right now. 98 00:05:58,400 --> 00:06:02,000 Speaker 1: But there's just a small bit of what we're talking about, 99 00:06:02,080 --> 00:06:04,480 Speaker 1: and so on that note, who the hell is this 100 00:06:04,560 --> 00:06:08,159 Speaker 1: Grimlin Riley Gaines. You may have seen some of the 101 00:06:08,200 --> 00:06:11,440 Speaker 1: back and forth that she had with Simona Biles, an 102 00:06:11,440 --> 00:06:15,080 Speaker 1: Olympic champion with literal moves and routines and named after 103 00:06:15,120 --> 00:06:20,719 Speaker 1: her like multi champion link goat literal. But in short, 104 00:06:21,000 --> 00:06:23,320 Speaker 1: it is pretty much she's pretty much a sore loser 105 00:06:23,400 --> 00:06:27,560 Speaker 1: who tied for fifth place with a trans athlete in 106 00:06:27,600 --> 00:06:35,000 Speaker 1: a collegiate swim competition. Fifth place these specificis didn't win. 107 00:06:35,080 --> 00:06:40,320 Speaker 1: She wasn't winning. She didn't win. She's never won FYI ever, ever, ever, 108 00:06:40,400 --> 00:06:44,560 Speaker 1: And she had one trans woman who tied with her. 109 00:06:44,600 --> 00:06:46,920 Speaker 1: And by the way, her initial reaction was not bad. 110 00:06:46,960 --> 00:06:49,240 Speaker 1: She was like, you know, she works really hard, she's 111 00:06:49,240 --> 00:06:53,280 Speaker 1: done what she's done, like talking about the trans athlete, congratulations. 112 00:06:53,680 --> 00:06:55,719 Speaker 1: And then as the year went by, she was like, wait, 113 00:06:56,320 --> 00:07:00,280 Speaker 1: I should be angry. Wait, I can make money, eight, 114 00:07:00,480 --> 00:07:05,239 Speaker 1: I can be famous. There are articles with older teammates 115 00:07:05,279 --> 00:07:07,719 Speaker 1: who were like, no, we're distancing ourselves because this is weird. 116 00:07:08,120 --> 00:07:11,280 Speaker 1: We definitely this is such a transformation for what we 117 00:07:11,360 --> 00:07:15,600 Speaker 1: knew of her. Then, yeah, so this is that woman, 118 00:07:16,280 --> 00:07:18,440 Speaker 1: And honestly, I think she should be remembered as a 119 00:07:18,440 --> 00:07:21,960 Speaker 1: person who cried about tying for a fifth in the 120 00:07:22,000 --> 00:07:26,080 Speaker 1: one competition she actually meddled. That's how we should remember her. 121 00:07:26,760 --> 00:07:29,080 Speaker 1: But she was like, I'm so great, I can critique 122 00:07:29,160 --> 00:07:45,320 Speaker 1: Simone Biles, everything is rage in me but anyway, But 123 00:07:45,480 --> 00:07:48,600 Speaker 1: as some details from glad dot org, who has titled 124 00:07:48,640 --> 00:07:52,600 Speaker 1: her as an anti transgender activist, they write quote Riley 125 00:07:52,640 --> 00:07:56,600 Speaker 1: Gaines is an American former collegiate swimmer from Gallatin, Tennessee. 126 00:07:57,120 --> 00:07:59,800 Speaker 1: In twenty twenty two, while swinging for the University of 127 00:08:00,040 --> 00:08:04,280 Speaker 1: Kentucky in the two hundred yard NCAA Freestyle Championship, Gaines 128 00:08:04,360 --> 00:08:08,320 Speaker 1: finished behind three cisgender competitors and tied for fifth place 129 00:08:08,400 --> 00:08:12,080 Speaker 1: with the University of Pennsylvania swimmer Leah Thomas, a transgender 130 00:08:12,120 --> 00:08:17,480 Speaker 1: woman who followed all rules to participate. Gaines has since 131 00:08:17,560 --> 00:08:20,040 Speaker 1: lobbied against the inclusion of trans women in the women's 132 00:08:20,040 --> 00:08:23,640 Speaker 1: division of sports, been a frequent guest on right wing media, 133 00:08:24,000 --> 00:08:28,880 Speaker 1: travels nationwide for panels advocating against transgender people, and campaigned 134 00:08:28,960 --> 00:08:33,160 Speaker 1: for anti trans candidates for public office, including rand Paul 135 00:08:33,480 --> 00:08:39,000 Speaker 1: Ron Desantez, Kim Reynolds, Daniel Cameron, and others. By the way, 136 00:08:39,160 --> 00:08:42,320 Speaker 1: she's been noted to make unfounded claims such as this again, 137 00:08:42,360 --> 00:08:45,280 Speaker 1: according to glad dot org. At a speech at University 138 00:08:45,320 --> 00:08:49,000 Speaker 1: of Wyoming, she opened with allegations of an assault at 139 00:08:49,040 --> 00:08:52,800 Speaker 1: San Francisco State University made specific note that she was 140 00:08:52,840 --> 00:08:57,680 Speaker 1: attacked by men in dresses with beards, and that she 141 00:08:57,960 --> 00:09:01,800 Speaker 1: was apparently held ransom along with police officers until she 142 00:09:01,880 --> 00:09:04,040 Speaker 1: gave the protesters ten dollars each. 143 00:09:07,120 --> 00:09:10,000 Speaker 2: Big score, real big score. 144 00:09:10,440 --> 00:09:15,680 Speaker 1: And police say her claims are unfounded. Yeah, how is 145 00:09:15,720 --> 00:09:22,600 Speaker 1: this not an Onion article? It's the world with beards 146 00:09:23,720 --> 00:09:27,240 Speaker 1: made me give them ten dollars along. 147 00:09:26,920 --> 00:09:31,600 Speaker 2: With the police. Like that, being held hostage alongside the police. 148 00:09:31,400 --> 00:09:36,439 Speaker 1: The dudes with guns who loved to just shoot. Yeah. Oh, 149 00:09:36,480 --> 00:09:40,680 Speaker 1: and yes, she did sue NCC to quote challenge the 150 00:09:40,800 --> 00:09:44,400 Speaker 1: organization's transgender eligibility policies, meaning she wanted to get rid 151 00:09:44,440 --> 00:09:49,400 Speaker 1: of all trans women and women's sports. And because we 152 00:09:49,480 --> 00:09:52,040 Speaker 1: know this is only the groundwork of a bigger anti 153 00:09:52,160 --> 00:09:55,640 Speaker 1: queer agenda. Here's some more information from Glad about her 154 00:09:55,840 --> 00:09:59,760 Speaker 1: specific organization quote. Riley Gaines is the director of the RILEYG. 155 00:09:59,760 --> 00:10:03,840 Speaker 1: Ganes Center at the Leadership Institute. The Leadership Institute receives 156 00:10:03,880 --> 00:10:07,920 Speaker 1: funding from several Coke family foundations, the Lynn and Harry 157 00:10:07,920 --> 00:10:12,600 Speaker 1: Bradley Foundation, which promotes anti LGBTQ initiatives, including support for 158 00:10:12,640 --> 00:10:16,520 Speaker 1: studies and campaigns that oppose LGBTQ rights, particularly in the 159 00:10:16,520 --> 00:10:20,120 Speaker 1: context of education and public policies. Donors Trust and Donors 160 00:10:20,160 --> 00:10:24,840 Speaker 1: Capital Fund, which opposes LGBTQ rights and funds various organizations 161 00:10:24,880 --> 00:10:29,480 Speaker 1: that push anti LGBTQ agendas, the National Christian Charitable Foundation, 162 00:10:29,720 --> 00:10:34,720 Speaker 1: which opposes LGBTQ rights, particularly marriage equality and transgender rights, 163 00:10:34,760 --> 00:10:37,080 Speaker 1: among others. So yes, she is a part of this 164 00:10:37,559 --> 00:10:40,000 Speaker 1: larger organization, a part of the Heritage Foundation, a part 165 00:10:40,040 --> 00:10:46,800 Speaker 1: of the whole project twenty twenty five. We hated here, 166 00:10:49,360 --> 00:10:52,360 Speaker 1: But back to this insidious policy. Yes, as we mentioned, 167 00:10:52,360 --> 00:10:55,000 Speaker 1: at least twenty six other states are either trying to 168 00:10:55,240 --> 00:10:57,559 Speaker 1: or have passed similar bills. I believe West Virginia is 169 00:10:57,600 --> 00:11:00,480 Speaker 1: one of those, and they have passed it as well. Right, 170 00:11:00,520 --> 00:11:05,640 Speaker 1: they are smiling so big. I can't condone violence, but 171 00:11:05,760 --> 00:11:09,280 Speaker 1: violent actions do go through my head anyway. Moving on, 172 00:11:10,000 --> 00:11:13,520 Speaker 1: and just as a reminder, the amount of openly trans 173 00:11:13,559 --> 00:11:17,120 Speaker 1: athletes that are competing in the NCAA is less than ten. 174 00:11:17,760 --> 00:11:23,160 Speaker 1: Less than ten. Yeah, it is a single digit number 175 00:11:24,240 --> 00:11:26,720 Speaker 1: as a twenty twenty five as of this year. 176 00:11:27,559 --> 00:11:27,760 Speaker 2: Yep. 177 00:11:29,360 --> 00:11:32,400 Speaker 1: The way my fista clenched and I'm so angry, I'm 178 00:11:32,400 --> 00:11:35,800 Speaker 1: gonna have a stroke. Moving on, and the numbers keep 179 00:11:35,800 --> 00:11:39,600 Speaker 1: getting worse. From trans Legislation dot Com. In twenty twenty one, 180 00:11:39,640 --> 00:11:41,920 Speaker 1: there were one hundred and forty three and I trans bills, 181 00:11:41,920 --> 00:11:44,760 Speaker 1: with eighteen of them passing, and in twenty twenty five, 182 00:11:45,040 --> 00:11:48,080 Speaker 1: four years later, there have been nine hundred and forty 183 00:11:48,120 --> 00:11:52,120 Speaker 1: two bills. As of I believe today their website is 184 00:11:52,160 --> 00:11:56,560 Speaker 1: pretty on top of things, with one hundred and sixteen 185 00:11:57,000 --> 00:12:01,160 Speaker 1: of them passing, and last year fifty one of them 186 00:12:01,240 --> 00:12:03,840 Speaker 1: passed with a seven hundred and one introduced, so it 187 00:12:03,880 --> 00:12:08,360 Speaker 1: has more than doubled within this year, which is not over, 188 00:12:08,440 --> 00:12:11,440 Speaker 1: which is almost like literally a little bit halfway over. 189 00:12:12,240 --> 00:12:12,520 Speaker 2: Yep. 190 00:12:13,080 --> 00:12:17,360 Speaker 1: And if you're curious, Texas wins with the most one 191 00:12:17,440 --> 00:12:20,760 Speaker 1: hundred and thirty bills considered, which is even more than 192 00:12:20,800 --> 00:12:23,360 Speaker 1: the national count the federal level account which is at 193 00:12:23,400 --> 00:12:28,600 Speaker 1: sixty seven, who is tied for number two with Missouri. Delaware, 194 00:12:28,679 --> 00:12:30,600 Speaker 1: by the way, seemingly is the safest state for our 195 00:12:30,640 --> 00:12:33,840 Speaker 1: trans friends, with only one anti trans bill in consideration, 196 00:12:33,880 --> 00:12:36,640 Speaker 1: which is still too many. It's one too many in 197 00:12:36,679 --> 00:12:41,040 Speaker 1: our opinions, m H, like, why can't there be one 198 00:12:41,080 --> 00:12:48,360 Speaker 1: state with zero? We failed, We failed, But remember take 199 00:12:48,360 --> 00:12:52,480 Speaker 1: a deep breath, then everybody me specifically, I know, I 200 00:12:52,559 --> 00:12:55,920 Speaker 1: know I'm about to talk about gardening, so yes, I'm 201 00:12:55,960 --> 00:13:00,160 Speaker 1: gonna calm down. We do have many organizations like that 202 00:13:00,600 --> 00:13:04,760 Speaker 1: Human Rights Campaign, Advocates for Trans Equality, trans Law Center, 203 00:13:05,200 --> 00:13:09,119 Speaker 1: and many more working to fight against these really hateful policies. 204 00:13:09,440 --> 00:13:13,480 Speaker 1: There are some small wins happening around the world, around 205 00:13:13,520 --> 00:13:18,640 Speaker 1: the country, even though today I wish I could go 206 00:13:18,840 --> 00:13:22,080 Speaker 1: and be volatile against our own administration in the state 207 00:13:22,120 --> 00:13:28,800 Speaker 1: of Georgia. For our trans friends, if you've stuck around 208 00:13:29,000 --> 00:13:32,080 Speaker 1: to hear what's going on and are so down, we 209 00:13:32,160 --> 00:13:35,920 Speaker 1: love you, We see you, We see you your humanity 210 00:13:35,960 --> 00:13:38,800 Speaker 1: and your struggles, and we know this is a scary, 211 00:13:38,880 --> 00:13:44,920 Speaker 1: scary time. I'm with you, and if you need anything, 212 00:13:45,400 --> 00:13:47,840 Speaker 1: know that we are here and we will keep speaking 213 00:13:47,920 --> 00:13:48,760 Speaker 1: up for you. 214 00:13:49,520 --> 00:13:54,280 Speaker 2: Yes, yes we will, we will, And please let us 215 00:13:54,280 --> 00:13:57,439 Speaker 2: know if there's something that you think we should be 216 00:13:57,679 --> 00:14:01,959 Speaker 2: talking about. Our resources are people you think we should 217 00:14:01,960 --> 00:14:05,160 Speaker 2: talk to. It also sounds like we might need to 218 00:14:05,160 --> 00:14:09,000 Speaker 2: bring back one of our meditation episodes. 219 00:14:09,440 --> 00:14:11,600 Speaker 1: What you're talking about, I think it'd be. 220 00:14:11,520 --> 00:14:13,600 Speaker 2: Good for all of us. 221 00:14:14,360 --> 00:14:18,840 Speaker 3: But in the meantime, listeners, if you would like to 222 00:14:18,880 --> 00:14:21,120 Speaker 3: email us you can. You can email us at Hello 223 00:14:21,120 --> 00:14:23,840 Speaker 3: at stuffhaneverdold you dot com. You can also find us 224 00:14:23,840 --> 00:14:25,960 Speaker 3: on Blue Sky at mom Stuff Podcasts, or on Instagram 225 00:14:25,960 --> 00:14:28,120 Speaker 3: and TikTok at stuff I've Never Told You for us 226 00:14:28,160 --> 00:14:29,560 Speaker 3: on YouTube, and we have a book you can get 227 00:14:29,560 --> 00:14:31,880 Speaker 3: where we get your books. Thanks, it's always too our 228 00:14:31,920 --> 00:14:34,520 Speaker 3: super duce Christina, except for Prisia and contributor Joey. 229 00:14:34,760 --> 00:14:37,480 Speaker 1: Thank you and thanks to you for listening Stuff Never Told. 230 00:14:37,400 --> 00:14:38,360 Speaker 2: You This pecture of my heart Radio. 231 00:14:38,400 --> 00:14:39,960 Speaker 3: For more podcasts from my Heart Radio, you can check 232 00:14:39,960 --> 00:14:41,680 Speaker 3: out the heart Radio app Apple Podcasts, or if you 233 00:14:41,760 --> 00:14:42,880 Speaker 3: listen to your favorite shows