1 00:00:00,760 --> 00:00:03,800 Speaker 1: This is the Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous podcast 2 00:00:03,840 --> 00:00:04,640 Speaker 1: with iHeartRadio. 3 00:00:05,960 --> 00:00:09,600 Speaker 2: Hello everyone, welcome to the Almost Mans podcast. Today Ben 4 00:00:09,640 --> 00:00:12,080 Speaker 2: isn't here, but I am joined by our producers and 5 00:00:12,160 --> 00:00:16,120 Speaker 2: our sound engineer, Easton and Heather, and they're gonna give 6 00:00:16,200 --> 00:00:18,840 Speaker 2: some of their opinions on the big news of the 7 00:00:18,920 --> 00:00:22,320 Speaker 2: day of the week. This week, it was announced that 8 00:00:22,600 --> 00:00:27,200 Speaker 2: Taylor Frankie Paul is the new Bachelorette for season twenty two. 9 00:00:27,880 --> 00:00:30,360 Speaker 2: If you don't know who she is, or you didn't 10 00:00:30,360 --> 00:00:32,560 Speaker 2: know who she is, you probably know who she is now. 11 00:00:33,000 --> 00:00:36,920 Speaker 2: She is famous for two things. First, she was an influencer, 12 00:00:38,320 --> 00:00:41,000 Speaker 2: kind of famous on her own via Instagram and TikTok, 13 00:00:42,040 --> 00:00:44,360 Speaker 2: kind of one of, as she likes to say, the 14 00:00:44,400 --> 00:00:51,400 Speaker 2: founders of mom talk. And she is also on the 15 00:00:51,479 --> 00:00:55,040 Speaker 2: real The Secret Lives of Mormon Wives. She's a thirty 16 00:00:55,080 --> 00:01:00,560 Speaker 2: one year old Utah native, and after completing airing two 17 00:01:00,560 --> 00:01:04,400 Speaker 2: seasons of Mormon Wives, she's now doing a Hulu crossover, 18 00:01:04,480 --> 00:01:07,319 Speaker 2: basically an ABC Hulu crossover, and she's going to be 19 00:01:07,400 --> 00:01:10,039 Speaker 2: the lead of this show. It makes a lot of 20 00:01:10,080 --> 00:01:13,720 Speaker 2: sense to me. When I first saw this announcement, I 21 00:01:14,040 --> 00:01:17,679 Speaker 2: was thinking it was a very good idea I have 22 00:01:17,760 --> 00:01:19,880 Speaker 2: a little bit more of mixed feelings. Now we'll get 23 00:01:19,920 --> 00:01:21,520 Speaker 2: to that in a second. I do want to just 24 00:01:21,560 --> 00:01:26,520 Speaker 2: break down her a little bit more. Her announcement, particularly 25 00:01:26,560 --> 00:01:28,840 Speaker 2: a little bit more so. It was a couple days ago, 26 00:01:29,080 --> 00:01:31,319 Speaker 2: the day before he announcement. Two days before her announcement, 27 00:01:31,800 --> 00:01:37,000 Speaker 2: that Call Her Daddy's, Alex Cooper posted on the Call 28 00:01:37,040 --> 00:01:40,560 Speaker 2: Her Daddy Instagram that she was there was like, there's 29 00:01:40,600 --> 00:01:45,759 Speaker 2: a cake on it and it said season thirty, Season thirty. Yeah, 30 00:01:45,840 --> 00:01:49,400 Speaker 2: because people were bracing for season thirty of The Bachelor 31 00:01:49,480 --> 00:01:52,480 Speaker 2: to be announced. And then she slices open the cake 32 00:01:52,600 --> 00:01:55,160 Speaker 2: as if it's a gender reveal and it's pink, which 33 00:01:55,280 --> 00:02:00,600 Speaker 2: kind of gave all of us sleuth's hints that perhaps 34 00:02:00,680 --> 00:02:04,800 Speaker 2: a Bachelorette season was going to be announced instead of 35 00:02:04,800 --> 00:02:08,000 Speaker 2: a Bachelor season. And then we also thought, Okay, Alex 36 00:02:08,040 --> 00:02:10,919 Speaker 2: Cooper's probably going to handle this announcement. Seems like it's 37 00:02:10,960 --> 00:02:14,400 Speaker 2: an all around ABC Hulu announcement because we know that 38 00:02:14,480 --> 00:02:17,960 Speaker 2: Alex Cooper just got her own show with Hulu and 39 00:02:18,600 --> 00:02:20,640 Speaker 2: they're kind of keeping this in the family. Also, she 40 00:02:20,680 --> 00:02:23,320 Speaker 2: did a really big interview with Rachel Kirconnell. It just 41 00:02:23,440 --> 00:02:25,840 Speaker 2: kind of made sense for her to get the first 42 00:02:26,080 --> 00:02:31,040 Speaker 2: interview with the new lead seems based on the Instagram 43 00:02:31,080 --> 00:02:34,040 Speaker 2: that it was going to be a Bachelorette, and that's 44 00:02:34,080 --> 00:02:37,440 Speaker 2: when people started speculating that it would be kind of 45 00:02:37,480 --> 00:02:41,560 Speaker 2: a stunt casting, that it may not necessarily be somebody 46 00:02:41,600 --> 00:02:46,160 Speaker 2: from the franchise's past. When I saw people speculating, my 47 00:02:46,480 --> 00:02:48,840 Speaker 2: first thought when I saw that name, when I was 48 00:02:49,160 --> 00:02:51,440 Speaker 2: Taylor Frigi Paul I was like, that's who it's going 49 00:02:51,520 --> 00:02:54,640 Speaker 2: to be. Twenty four hours later, it was announced that 50 00:02:54,720 --> 00:02:59,240 Speaker 2: she's indeed the Bachelorette, and like I said, my initial 51 00:02:59,280 --> 00:03:03,160 Speaker 2: thought was, this makes so much sense. This is so 52 00:03:03,360 --> 00:03:05,360 Speaker 2: good for the franchise, so good for the network and 53 00:03:05,400 --> 00:03:10,799 Speaker 2: for audience numbers because the Secret Lives of Mormon Wives 54 00:03:10,840 --> 00:03:14,720 Speaker 2: so freaking popular. People love that show. It has the 55 00:03:14,720 --> 00:03:17,560 Speaker 2: same demographic as the Bachelor. We've seen so many times 56 00:03:17,600 --> 00:03:23,680 Speaker 2: them like put the show on after Bachelor Bachelorette, or 57 00:03:24,120 --> 00:03:27,800 Speaker 2: they promote the crap out of the show on Bachelor Bachelorette. 58 00:03:27,800 --> 00:03:31,160 Speaker 2: There's so much twisted up because they know the demographic 59 00:03:31,240 --> 00:03:34,280 Speaker 2: is so similar. There's people who watch the Secret Lives 60 00:03:34,280 --> 00:03:38,960 Speaker 2: of Mormon Wives that probably have watched Bachelor in the past, 61 00:03:39,000 --> 00:03:41,720 Speaker 2: but maybe have taken a break from him. And then 62 00:03:41,720 --> 00:03:46,760 Speaker 2: there's probably people now who have only watched Secret Lives 63 00:03:46,760 --> 00:03:49,440 Speaker 2: and Mormon Wives, and now they're going to end up 64 00:03:49,480 --> 00:03:54,400 Speaker 2: watching the Bachelorette. The crossover audience is so so good 65 00:03:54,440 --> 00:03:57,240 Speaker 2: for numbers. I think they're going to get back a 66 00:03:58,320 --> 00:04:00,600 Speaker 2: lot of viewers that have dropped off, and they're gonna 67 00:04:00,600 --> 00:04:05,200 Speaker 2: get a lot of new viewers because of this. Now, 68 00:04:05,440 --> 00:04:10,240 Speaker 2: I think the more I saw comments about her being 69 00:04:10,360 --> 00:04:15,320 Speaker 2: named the Bachelorette, I started thinking, Okay, so it's actually 70 00:04:15,360 --> 00:04:18,479 Speaker 2: more controversial than I thought because I have never watched 71 00:04:19,000 --> 00:04:22,479 Speaker 2: Secret Lives Mormon Wives. Now, guess what I'm gonna be 72 00:04:22,520 --> 00:04:27,640 Speaker 2: watching it. I'm gonna watch all those seasons before the 73 00:04:27,720 --> 00:04:31,680 Speaker 2: series the Bachelorette airs for sure. Like last night I 74 00:04:31,760 --> 00:04:33,799 Speaker 2: was lying in bed, I was like, I don't feel 75 00:04:33,839 --> 00:04:35,800 Speaker 2: like watching the summer I turn pretty right now, I'll 76 00:04:35,839 --> 00:04:38,760 Speaker 2: just watch something in the background and guess what that was? 77 00:04:38,800 --> 00:04:45,480 Speaker 2: Gonna be Secret Lives, Right, So they're also getting Bachelor 78 00:04:45,600 --> 00:04:49,599 Speaker 2: viewers who have never watched Mormon Wives to watch Mormon 79 00:04:49,640 --> 00:04:52,840 Speaker 2: Wives all over. Great network decision. I'm going on and 80 00:04:52,839 --> 00:04:57,000 Speaker 2: on and on. But what I started seeing about her 81 00:04:57,160 --> 00:05:00,640 Speaker 2: as a figure. It's a bit more controvers and people 82 00:05:00,640 --> 00:05:04,480 Speaker 2: were Actually some people are not excited for two reasons. One, 83 00:05:04,680 --> 00:05:07,760 Speaker 2: lots of wele not excited that somebody from the Bachelor 84 00:05:07,800 --> 00:05:11,120 Speaker 2: franchise isn't getting this position. I totally understand that. I 85 00:05:11,120 --> 00:05:15,000 Speaker 2: think right now ABC's trying to they had to get 86 00:05:15,000 --> 00:05:17,240 Speaker 2: a stunt cast. They really need to get somebody who 87 00:05:17,279 --> 00:05:19,960 Speaker 2: is more of a celebrity than some of the girls 88 00:05:20,920 --> 00:05:25,040 Speaker 2: that could be up for consideration as the bachelorette. Rachel 89 00:05:25,080 --> 00:05:27,000 Speaker 2: Kirconnell is the main one to me, and I think 90 00:05:27,040 --> 00:05:28,960 Speaker 2: Susie was the other main one. I think some people 91 00:05:29,000 --> 00:05:31,040 Speaker 2: will throw Maria in there, but I think she has 92 00:05:31,120 --> 00:05:34,080 Speaker 2: been no offense to Maria a little more forgotten over 93 00:05:34,080 --> 00:05:37,360 Speaker 2: the past year. So I think when you think about 94 00:05:37,400 --> 00:05:40,880 Speaker 2: Susie and you think about Rachel Kirconnell, you're like, those 95 00:05:40,920 --> 00:05:43,640 Speaker 2: two are great options. Totally agree with that. Would love 96 00:05:43,640 --> 00:05:47,760 Speaker 2: to see either of them as bachelorette. But I don't 97 00:05:47,800 --> 00:05:50,120 Speaker 2: know how many new viewers are going to get from that. 98 00:05:50,200 --> 00:05:52,520 Speaker 2: I think they're going to get new viewers with this, 99 00:05:54,880 --> 00:05:58,400 Speaker 2: So I understand, Like, I get you guys who are saying, 100 00:05:58,440 --> 00:06:00,640 Speaker 2: like you want to keep it inside the family. I 101 00:06:00,720 --> 00:06:02,760 Speaker 2: love to keep things inside the family. I am a 102 00:06:02,800 --> 00:06:05,640 Speaker 2: Bachelor family member, you know what I mean. And I 103 00:06:05,640 --> 00:06:09,800 Speaker 2: don't really know this girl, but I can get past that. 104 00:06:11,320 --> 00:06:15,880 Speaker 2: The second thing that is controversial amongst Bachelor fans hearing 105 00:06:15,880 --> 00:06:22,240 Speaker 2: this announcement is that she has a misdemeanor for domestic assault. 106 00:06:23,760 --> 00:06:26,880 Speaker 2: I want to read this like off so that I'm 107 00:06:27,480 --> 00:06:31,320 Speaker 2: precise about it. In February twenty twenty three, Taylor was 108 00:06:31,440 --> 00:06:37,120 Speaker 2: arrested on misdemeanor charges of assault, criminal mischief, and commission 109 00:06:37,360 --> 00:06:40,760 Speaker 2: of domestic violence in the presence of a child. She 110 00:06:40,920 --> 00:06:44,880 Speaker 2: pleaded guilty in August twenty twenty three to aggravate assault, 111 00:06:45,160 --> 00:06:48,760 Speaker 2: and the other charges were dismissed, per The New York Post. 112 00:06:49,200 --> 00:06:53,520 Speaker 2: She said on Nick Viall's podcast in the same month, 113 00:06:53,800 --> 00:06:55,200 Speaker 2: she said, I want to be better for my kids, 114 00:06:55,240 --> 00:06:57,200 Speaker 2: and I feel like right now that's my top priority. 115 00:06:57,240 --> 00:06:59,520 Speaker 2: All I want is for them to be happy. Sarah 116 00:06:59,520 --> 00:07:02,320 Speaker 2: Harren post said something yesterday that I screenshot because I 117 00:07:02,320 --> 00:07:08,120 Speaker 2: thought this was poignant. This was the details of the 118 00:07:08,120 --> 00:07:11,800 Speaker 2: domestic violence incident. It says a video obtained by police 119 00:07:11,880 --> 00:07:17,680 Speaker 2: show Paul putting her boyfriend Dakota in a chokehold and 120 00:07:17,760 --> 00:07:23,080 Speaker 2: throwing chairs during an argument, a child was struck by 121 00:07:23,120 --> 00:07:28,080 Speaker 2: one of the metal barstools that she threw. It hit 122 00:07:28,120 --> 00:07:29,720 Speaker 2: her in the head, a two year old her two 123 00:07:29,760 --> 00:07:33,160 Speaker 2: year old daughter in the head, causing a painful bump. Oh, no, 124 00:07:33,280 --> 00:07:34,560 Speaker 2: there was a baby. It was a baby. It was 125 00:07:34,560 --> 00:07:37,360 Speaker 2: a younger than a two year old. It hit her 126 00:07:37,680 --> 00:07:40,240 Speaker 2: young daughter in the head, causing a painful bump, and 127 00:07:40,320 --> 00:07:42,560 Speaker 2: a two year old was also in the home at 128 00:07:42,600 --> 00:07:48,480 Speaker 2: the time when the police arrived. According to the probable 129 00:07:48,600 --> 00:07:53,640 Speaker 2: cause statement, officers observed Paul hitting Dakota her boyfriend after 130 00:07:53,680 --> 00:07:59,800 Speaker 2: they arrived home, and she admitted to throwing furniture. So 131 00:08:00,040 --> 00:08:03,920 Speaker 2: that's what I'm going to bring our panel in Heather Easton. 132 00:08:05,560 --> 00:08:08,480 Speaker 2: Do you guys watch Mormon Wives? Are you privy to 133 00:08:08,520 --> 00:08:14,720 Speaker 2: this information? I was like, gosh, because guess what if 134 00:08:14,760 --> 00:08:17,520 Speaker 2: a guy had done this, the double standard would have been. 135 00:08:17,520 --> 00:08:19,800 Speaker 2: We would never have a guy who had done this 136 00:08:20,440 --> 00:08:22,239 Speaker 2: as the lead of the show. 137 00:08:22,760 --> 00:08:26,520 Speaker 3: I hear where you're coming from, and I think in 138 00:08:27,640 --> 00:08:31,200 Speaker 3: a normal situation, yes, of a lead for the show, 139 00:08:31,760 --> 00:08:36,599 Speaker 3: that would be huge. I will say, as a longtime 140 00:08:36,679 --> 00:08:41,000 Speaker 3: viewer of Mormon Wives, this all is shown. Actually, the 141 00:08:41,040 --> 00:08:45,520 Speaker 3: police bodycam footage. Portions of it are shown actually in 142 00:08:45,559 --> 00:08:49,800 Speaker 3: the very first episode of season one. It is addressed 143 00:08:49,920 --> 00:08:50,920 Speaker 3: from the jump. 144 00:08:51,120 --> 00:08:53,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not hidden. I totally understand that yet. 145 00:08:53,600 --> 00:08:56,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, she does talk about in the first season of 146 00:08:56,200 --> 00:09:01,760 Speaker 3: the show. I think that I don't think anybody would 147 00:09:01,920 --> 00:09:06,160 Speaker 3: condone what she did, but I think that she has 148 00:09:06,240 --> 00:09:10,240 Speaker 3: taken accountability for it, and I think that in that stance, 149 00:09:12,480 --> 00:09:16,040 Speaker 3: I'm open as a viewer to seeing her still gain 150 00:09:16,160 --> 00:09:20,560 Speaker 3: opportunities because I've watched her on the show really feel 151 00:09:20,600 --> 00:09:23,199 Speaker 3: a lot of remorse and guilt for that evening. 152 00:09:24,080 --> 00:09:28,200 Speaker 2: Okay, obviously, like the argument with the boyfriend is one thing. 153 00:09:28,480 --> 00:09:32,880 Speaker 2: Getting hostile with the boyfriend bad, Yeah thing, Definitely, it's 154 00:09:33,040 --> 00:09:36,199 Speaker 2: the children present to me. To me, it hits on 155 00:09:36,200 --> 00:09:38,400 Speaker 2: them that the children are present, and one got hit 156 00:09:38,559 --> 00:09:43,080 Speaker 2: like she was so she so disregarded them in that 157 00:09:43,240 --> 00:09:47,720 Speaker 2: moment that that makes me that's very concerning. 158 00:09:48,040 --> 00:09:49,559 Speaker 4: I think it's valid what you're saying. 159 00:09:50,040 --> 00:09:53,200 Speaker 5: I was thinking about this, like, do we does the 160 00:09:53,280 --> 00:09:56,600 Speaker 5: lead of the bachelor or a bachelorette have to be. 161 00:09:58,040 --> 00:09:59,400 Speaker 2: Like perfect? 162 00:10:00,120 --> 00:10:02,760 Speaker 5: Yeah, Like like you know, like is this someone that 163 00:10:02,800 --> 00:10:05,360 Speaker 5: we look to as like a moral standard. I mean, 164 00:10:05,400 --> 00:10:07,960 Speaker 5: obviously we don't want to have like a full blown 165 00:10:08,160 --> 00:10:12,319 Speaker 5: hardcore criminal like on the show, but also like I 166 00:10:12,400 --> 00:10:15,959 Speaker 5: don't know, I am. I think it's horrible and and 167 00:10:15,960 --> 00:10:18,719 Speaker 5: and you know, I condemn what she did. I think 168 00:10:18,760 --> 00:10:22,440 Speaker 5: it's this terrible, but I also think that it will 169 00:10:22,440 --> 00:10:26,040 Speaker 5: be interesting to see someone go through this process that 170 00:10:26,080 --> 00:10:30,400 Speaker 5: has been through something terrible like this and is hopefully 171 00:10:30,440 --> 00:10:34,120 Speaker 5: going to find some redemption. Yeah, I was thinking about 172 00:10:34,120 --> 00:10:36,240 Speaker 5: what I was thinking about what you said earlier about 173 00:10:36,240 --> 00:10:40,640 Speaker 5: like the going outside the Bachelor family and like this 174 00:10:40,720 --> 00:10:43,440 Speaker 5: is the first time. Is this the first time this 175 00:10:43,480 --> 00:10:45,840 Speaker 5: has happened where it's been someone like like since the 176 00:10:45,880 --> 00:10:46,680 Speaker 5: early days. 177 00:10:46,520 --> 00:10:49,640 Speaker 2: Right, thank you for bringing that up. First bachelorette that 178 00:10:49,720 --> 00:10:52,640 Speaker 2: hasn't been part of the family. Bachelors used to be 179 00:10:52,760 --> 00:10:54,280 Speaker 2: chosen outside the family. 180 00:10:54,240 --> 00:10:57,280 Speaker 5: Like I remember, I can't remember when a couple of 181 00:10:57,360 --> 00:10:59,240 Speaker 5: years ago there was like rumors that it was going 182 00:10:59,320 --> 00:11:01,400 Speaker 5: to be Courtney card or something like there was like 183 00:11:01,720 --> 00:11:04,599 Speaker 5: and I know Chloe, that's right, Like, yeah, never in 184 00:11:04,640 --> 00:11:06,199 Speaker 5: a million years, I don't think what she do that, 185 00:11:06,280 --> 00:11:08,760 Speaker 5: but like everyone was really excited about that idea. And 186 00:11:09,080 --> 00:11:10,760 Speaker 5: I think that this is going to get a lot 187 00:11:10,760 --> 00:11:13,200 Speaker 5: of people that wouldn't normally like I mean even saying 188 00:11:13,200 --> 00:11:14,560 Speaker 5: it like it's going to bring a lot of people 189 00:11:14,520 --> 00:11:17,600 Speaker 5: who didn't normally watch the show. I think it is. 190 00:11:17,720 --> 00:11:21,559 Speaker 5: It is really exciting to see it because sometimes I 191 00:11:21,600 --> 00:11:23,560 Speaker 5: think it's easy to think of The Bachelor as like 192 00:11:24,000 --> 00:11:27,960 Speaker 5: existing in this like isolated universe, and this reminds me like, 193 00:11:28,240 --> 00:11:30,040 Speaker 5: oh no, there's other There's people that can come from 194 00:11:30,040 --> 00:11:30,920 Speaker 5: all over him do this. 195 00:11:31,000 --> 00:11:31,200 Speaker 1: You know. 196 00:11:31,200 --> 00:11:33,880 Speaker 5: It's like when you watch Captain American iron Man team 197 00:11:34,000 --> 00:11:35,440 Speaker 5: up to fight a bad guy. It's like, oh my god, 198 00:11:35,640 --> 00:11:36,360 Speaker 5: this can happen. 199 00:11:37,160 --> 00:11:40,679 Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. It's kind of like Avengers, like because it's 200 00:11:40,840 --> 00:11:43,480 Speaker 2: crossover show. And I really do like that. I think 201 00:11:43,480 --> 00:11:46,000 Speaker 2: it was creative, and I think that's something that we've 202 00:11:46,000 --> 00:11:48,160 Speaker 2: been asking them to do for a while. Be like, 203 00:11:48,480 --> 00:11:51,200 Speaker 2: if you want you spike this thing, you have to 204 00:11:51,240 --> 00:11:53,560 Speaker 2: get a stunt cast or you find like a diamond 205 00:11:53,600 --> 00:11:56,120 Speaker 2: in the rough, like Joey, who was just the perfect 206 00:11:56,280 --> 00:11:57,040 Speaker 2: the perfect lead. 207 00:11:57,320 --> 00:11:59,599 Speaker 3: I will say too, just because we've had him on 208 00:11:59,640 --> 00:12:03,280 Speaker 3: the pod cast. But Graham Bunn and some others have 209 00:12:03,400 --> 00:12:06,560 Speaker 3: confirmed to us that even back in the day, the 210 00:12:06,640 --> 00:12:11,360 Speaker 3: producers were courting uh Chrishelle Strauss, who everybody knows now 211 00:12:11,400 --> 00:12:14,319 Speaker 3: from selling Sunset. But back then she was a soap actress. 212 00:12:14,559 --> 00:12:17,400 Speaker 3: So it's not like they haven't dipped their toe in 213 00:12:17,600 --> 00:12:19,560 Speaker 3: and tried to make something. 214 00:12:19,320 --> 00:12:21,040 Speaker 4: Like this happen throughout the years. 215 00:12:21,360 --> 00:12:23,880 Speaker 3: This is just the first time we're actually seeing it 216 00:12:23,920 --> 00:12:24,760 Speaker 3: come to fruition. 217 00:12:25,920 --> 00:12:39,280 Speaker 2: Yes, definitely. I mean I feel like they started they 218 00:12:39,320 --> 00:12:42,280 Speaker 2: kind of like pretended that like Baldwin, this is one 219 00:12:42,280 --> 00:12:43,679 Speaker 2: of the Baldwin brothers, right. 220 00:12:44,400 --> 00:12:46,839 Speaker 4: Oh my god, I don't remember that, but I wouldn't be. 221 00:12:46,760 --> 00:12:49,000 Speaker 2: Sur that was like in the two thousands. I think 222 00:12:49,040 --> 00:12:50,839 Speaker 2: he was one of the Baldwin brothers. I don't think 223 00:12:50,840 --> 00:12:55,040 Speaker 2: it was a coincidence his last name was Baldwin. But yeah, 224 00:12:55,080 --> 00:12:58,360 Speaker 2: so guys, that is your new bachelorette. I'm sure we're 225 00:12:58,400 --> 00:13:00,640 Speaker 2: going to have so many more developing ainions on this 226 00:13:00,679 --> 00:13:04,720 Speaker 2: whole thing. I do think it's great that she had 227 00:13:05,120 --> 00:13:09,520 Speaker 2: in June posted something about her being the bachelorette. It's 228 00:13:09,559 --> 00:13:12,360 Speaker 2: a great TikTok. You should watch it. I remember in 229 00:13:12,520 --> 00:13:14,760 Speaker 2: June watching it being like, oh, this is that girl 230 00:13:14,760 --> 00:13:17,040 Speaker 2: from that show, right, And I was like, that's cute, 231 00:13:17,080 --> 00:13:20,959 Speaker 2: that's clever. And I'm wondering whether that's when they started 232 00:13:21,000 --> 00:13:25,400 Speaker 2: thinking about it, whether that was something that like, was 233 00:13:25,440 --> 00:13:29,120 Speaker 2: that a sign, an early sign where they already thinking 234 00:13:29,120 --> 00:13:30,800 Speaker 2: about it. It looks like Heather hasn't felt. 235 00:13:30,679 --> 00:13:32,560 Speaker 3: So I can tell you on this what I do 236 00:13:32,720 --> 00:13:36,640 Speaker 3: know just from knowing people on the casting side of 237 00:13:36,760 --> 00:13:37,439 Speaker 3: this season. 238 00:13:38,040 --> 00:13:40,319 Speaker 4: It totally was what flipped everything. 239 00:13:40,760 --> 00:13:45,319 Speaker 3: They were highly they were hired to cast the Bachelor, 240 00:13:45,760 --> 00:13:48,760 Speaker 3: that was the focus for the entire crew that was 241 00:13:48,840 --> 00:13:53,280 Speaker 3: working on that show. And then when that TikTok. I 242 00:13:53,320 --> 00:13:58,080 Speaker 3: have heard differing things, so I don't when that around 243 00:13:58,120 --> 00:14:00,920 Speaker 3: the time that TikTok came out, I've heard both that. 244 00:14:01,480 --> 00:14:04,520 Speaker 3: I think she said on Call Her Daddy that producers 245 00:14:04,559 --> 00:14:07,880 Speaker 3: reached out to her. I've heard that her team reached 246 00:14:07,880 --> 00:14:13,080 Speaker 3: out to producers. But that's what flipped around that time, 247 00:14:13,200 --> 00:14:17,080 Speaker 3: what flipped the casting to switch over to a bachelorette 248 00:14:17,080 --> 00:14:21,600 Speaker 3: because if you remember too, we had just gotten fully 249 00:14:21,680 --> 00:14:26,080 Speaker 3: green lit for thirty season thirty of The Bachelor, and 250 00:14:26,120 --> 00:14:28,600 Speaker 3: that's when as un as that came out, that's when 251 00:14:28,680 --> 00:14:32,680 Speaker 3: casting went public, and so they wouldn't have done that 252 00:14:33,240 --> 00:14:35,840 Speaker 3: if the intention was to do a season of the Bachelorette. 253 00:14:35,920 --> 00:14:40,160 Speaker 3: Like this was definitely a switch up after the fact. 254 00:14:41,480 --> 00:14:43,920 Speaker 2: Super interesting, but you know, it makes sense we were 255 00:14:44,000 --> 00:14:47,200 Speaker 2: due for a bachelorette and not a bachelor anyway. Yep. 256 00:14:47,280 --> 00:14:50,280 Speaker 2: And I think people are happy because they're like, Okay, 257 00:14:50,800 --> 00:14:53,400 Speaker 2: that was unfair to the girls, so just skip out 258 00:14:53,400 --> 00:14:54,400 Speaker 2: on a bachelorette season. 259 00:14:54,480 --> 00:14:56,360 Speaker 4: I did say more thing about this. 260 00:14:56,880 --> 00:14:59,440 Speaker 3: I feel like we saw a lot of the negativity 261 00:14:59,520 --> 00:15:02,400 Speaker 3: right in the comments. I just want to bring up 262 00:15:02,440 --> 00:15:06,080 Speaker 3: something and get your take on this, But say, like 263 00:15:06,200 --> 00:15:10,360 Speaker 3: for Grant and Juliana right when that breakup happened, if 264 00:15:10,360 --> 00:15:13,600 Speaker 3: you guys remember a lot of the comments I saw. 265 00:15:13,720 --> 00:15:17,560 Speaker 3: And I've seen this with past seasons where nobody's gonna last, 266 00:15:17,760 --> 00:15:21,360 Speaker 3: they're in their twenties, cast older, get people that really 267 00:15:21,440 --> 00:15:24,360 Speaker 3: want to get married all of those things right, And 268 00:15:24,440 --> 00:15:27,880 Speaker 3: here we have she's thirty one, who's thirty one, who 269 00:15:27,960 --> 00:15:31,640 Speaker 3: has three children, who's already been married and is divorced. 270 00:15:32,120 --> 00:15:34,560 Speaker 4: I think personally. 271 00:15:34,440 --> 00:15:38,040 Speaker 3: That this is actually somebody that is more inclined to 272 00:15:38,280 --> 00:15:42,680 Speaker 3: find a lasting relationship or an actual marriage versus what 273 00:15:42,760 --> 00:15:46,840 Speaker 3: we've been seeing in past seasons of twenty somethings who 274 00:15:48,000 --> 00:15:50,080 Speaker 3: don't really know what they want when they come on 275 00:15:50,120 --> 00:15:50,520 Speaker 3: the show. 276 00:15:51,040 --> 00:15:53,040 Speaker 4: I don't know. I think you guys agree to agree 277 00:15:53,080 --> 00:15:53,400 Speaker 4: on that. 278 00:15:54,200 --> 00:15:57,680 Speaker 2: No, she's definitely gonna look, I believe for something more serious. 279 00:15:57,800 --> 00:16:00,000 Speaker 2: She definitely talks in the Call Her Daddy episode about 280 00:16:00,080 --> 00:16:03,600 Speaker 2: being like I cannot call her a serial monogamous, but 281 00:16:03,640 --> 00:16:07,280 Speaker 2: she's into relationships. She's certainly not a serial monogamous. Because 282 00:16:07,320 --> 00:16:10,840 Speaker 2: that brings us into our next topic, which is her 283 00:16:10,880 --> 00:16:14,200 Speaker 2: soft swinging scandal. I'm catching up on this as I 284 00:16:14,440 --> 00:16:17,400 Speaker 2: have not watched Secret Lives. I will be you guys, 285 00:16:17,400 --> 00:16:19,920 Speaker 2: as I'm catching I'm gonna do it. This is gonna 286 00:16:19,920 --> 00:16:23,600 Speaker 2: be fun. But she and I like the fact that 287 00:16:23,640 --> 00:16:25,040 Speaker 2: I'm going to be able to get to know the 288 00:16:25,040 --> 00:16:28,520 Speaker 2: bachelorette so deeply with having two and I think maybe 289 00:16:28,600 --> 00:16:33,480 Speaker 2: three seasons airing before her season will be airing. But 290 00:16:33,560 --> 00:16:36,360 Speaker 2: the thing that started the whole show was this soft 291 00:16:36,400 --> 00:16:40,520 Speaker 2: swinging scandal. Basically, she and her husband had an agreement 292 00:16:40,600 --> 00:16:42,320 Speaker 2: that they weren't going to go all the way with 293 00:16:42,400 --> 00:16:46,040 Speaker 2: somebody else, but she did step out of that agreement. Okay, 294 00:16:46,200 --> 00:16:50,960 Speaker 2: so she cheated on him. It led to their divorce, 295 00:16:51,040 --> 00:16:54,720 Speaker 2: and then after all of that, she ended up getting 296 00:16:54,720 --> 00:16:57,480 Speaker 2: with this guy, Dakota, who's very well known on her show, 297 00:16:58,320 --> 00:17:02,040 Speaker 2: and she ends up having a child. Ever with Dakota, 298 00:17:02,080 --> 00:17:06,000 Speaker 2: in September twenty twenty three. Oh, she announced it in 299 00:17:06,080 --> 00:17:09,160 Speaker 2: twenty twenty three, and she had the baby March twenty 300 00:17:09,200 --> 00:17:12,800 Speaker 2: twenty four. So and Dakota is the one that she 301 00:17:12,840 --> 00:17:17,199 Speaker 2: has legal issues with. So, Guys, where I'm going with 302 00:17:17,240 --> 00:17:22,160 Speaker 2: this is they're swinging involved, and I think that people 303 00:17:22,200 --> 00:17:24,800 Speaker 2: are going to be like, all right, is swinging going 304 00:17:24,880 --> 00:17:28,560 Speaker 2: to be involved in a future relationship Mormons? I mean, 305 00:17:28,600 --> 00:17:32,679 Speaker 2: I know it's a sort of taboo. It may be 306 00:17:32,960 --> 00:17:38,560 Speaker 2: a misunderstanding of sorts to some, but some do believe 307 00:17:38,600 --> 00:17:42,119 Speaker 2: in polygamy, and some are polygamists and some aren't. And 308 00:17:42,720 --> 00:17:45,479 Speaker 2: I can't say I'm an expert on all this, so 309 00:17:45,480 --> 00:17:47,760 Speaker 2: I'm sorry if I'm an offensive it in any way. 310 00:17:48,880 --> 00:17:54,040 Speaker 2: But I'm wondering what her situation with polygamy is going forward. 311 00:17:54,160 --> 00:17:56,160 Speaker 2: Has she talked about on the show Heather Anyston. 312 00:17:56,600 --> 00:17:59,639 Speaker 5: We should clarify that polygamy is not is like being married. 313 00:18:00,600 --> 00:18:03,480 Speaker 5: Polyamory is what we're talking about, I think, because that's 314 00:18:03,520 --> 00:18:08,400 Speaker 5: like having romantic encounters with more than one person. Polygamy 315 00:18:08,440 --> 00:18:10,680 Speaker 5: is like being married to more, which is illegal. 316 00:18:10,359 --> 00:18:14,879 Speaker 2: And oh thank you, okay, polygamy married? Well, isn't it 317 00:18:14,920 --> 00:18:17,240 Speaker 2: just like isn't like a thrupple polygamy you don't have 318 00:18:17,280 --> 00:18:20,560 Speaker 2: to be married. No, that's having a third person in 319 00:18:20,600 --> 00:18:21,400 Speaker 2: the relationship. 320 00:18:21,600 --> 00:18:25,800 Speaker 3: Polygamy is structured in religion, like they do it because 321 00:18:26,040 --> 00:18:28,480 Speaker 3: of the scripture that they read and believe in the 322 00:18:28,600 --> 00:18:30,200 Speaker 3: got be married to multiple women? 323 00:18:31,000 --> 00:18:31,359 Speaker 2: Okay? 324 00:18:31,680 --> 00:18:36,000 Speaker 5: Yeah, So polyamory is like having sex with other people and. 325 00:18:35,880 --> 00:18:38,720 Speaker 3: Being open about it. Like, yeah, smory is about having 326 00:18:38,800 --> 00:18:41,200 Speaker 3: multiple partners. And everybody's aware. 327 00:18:41,040 --> 00:18:47,280 Speaker 2: That polygamy and polyamory, yes, two different things. Yes, oh 328 00:18:47,400 --> 00:18:47,960 Speaker 2: no way. 329 00:18:48,400 --> 00:18:51,600 Speaker 5: Ethical non monogamy is another one yet I'm not sure 330 00:18:51,640 --> 00:18:52,879 Speaker 5: what the definition of that one is. 331 00:18:52,920 --> 00:18:56,400 Speaker 2: But oh my gosh, guys. Okay, So does she talk 332 00:18:56,600 --> 00:19:02,040 Speaker 2: on the show Secret Wives, Secret Live, Secret Wives about 333 00:19:02,640 --> 00:19:09,840 Speaker 2: her future in having multiple hookup partners or yeah, because 334 00:19:09,880 --> 00:19:13,640 Speaker 2: she's not into Mary, She's not into having a husband 335 00:19:13,640 --> 00:19:17,320 Speaker 2: that has multiple wives. Correct, That is correct, But swinging 336 00:19:17,440 --> 00:19:18,440 Speaker 2: is that in her future. 337 00:19:18,800 --> 00:19:21,399 Speaker 3: It seems to be that swinging has become off the 338 00:19:21,480 --> 00:19:25,520 Speaker 3: table since this situation. Her and Dakota have been very 339 00:19:25,560 --> 00:19:29,919 Speaker 3: on and off since all of this, But she is 340 00:19:29,960 --> 00:19:32,919 Speaker 3: not expressed about on the show about looking for somebody 341 00:19:32,960 --> 00:19:36,080 Speaker 3: that's interested in swinging. It's more like She's interested in 342 00:19:36,119 --> 00:19:39,600 Speaker 3: finding somebody and not having the swinging being held against her. 343 00:19:40,400 --> 00:19:44,240 Speaker 2: Is what it's like. Okay, all right, all right? So 344 00:19:44,600 --> 00:19:47,840 Speaker 2: that is that for Taylor on this podcast, and we 345 00:19:47,880 --> 00:19:52,600 Speaker 2: will have so many more thoughts and opinions soon, and 346 00:19:52,680 --> 00:19:56,240 Speaker 2: I as I watch Secret Lives, I will update you 347 00:19:56,359 --> 00:19:59,240 Speaker 2: guys on how I think she'll be as a lead, 348 00:20:00,080 --> 00:20:02,679 Speaker 2: how I think she is as a personality. I'll be 349 00:20:02,760 --> 00:20:04,160 Speaker 2: judge in. 350 00:20:04,080 --> 00:20:08,000 Speaker 3: This moment right now, Ashley, after talking it through, what's 351 00:20:08,040 --> 00:20:10,560 Speaker 3: your gut? Say right now? Are you interested in her 352 00:20:10,600 --> 00:20:13,320 Speaker 3: as the lead? Are you still? Are you citing with 353 00:20:13,440 --> 00:20:17,600 Speaker 3: Bachelor Nation in our negative comments and saying you're not interested? 354 00:20:17,960 --> 00:20:21,280 Speaker 2: Well, I was actually stunned by the amount of negative comments, 355 00:20:21,280 --> 00:20:25,480 Speaker 2: were you. I think that ABC's also taken aback by 356 00:20:25,560 --> 00:20:27,720 Speaker 2: the negative comments. I think that they thought this is 357 00:20:27,760 --> 00:20:30,400 Speaker 2: going to be like majority well received. 358 00:20:30,560 --> 00:20:32,560 Speaker 3: I'm going to say our group chat at work was 359 00:20:32,640 --> 00:20:35,760 Speaker 3: lighting up with people saying that they're thrilled about it. 360 00:20:35,960 --> 00:20:40,320 Speaker 3: I would say negative comments in general tend to speak 361 00:20:40,359 --> 00:20:44,480 Speaker 3: louder on the Internet than anywhere else, but I think 362 00:20:44,520 --> 00:20:46,399 Speaker 3: it's where you get your source, right. I think if 363 00:20:46,400 --> 00:20:48,719 Speaker 3: you probably went to her page, people were lighting up 364 00:20:48,720 --> 00:20:51,480 Speaker 3: the comments excited to see it, but if you went 365 00:20:51,520 --> 00:20:54,240 Speaker 3: on somewhere else you might see negative comments. 366 00:20:55,400 --> 00:20:57,000 Speaker 4: So I think it's a mixed bag. 367 00:20:57,040 --> 00:21:00,960 Speaker 3: But overall, people, personal people in my life are excited 368 00:21:00,960 --> 00:21:01,480 Speaker 3: about this. 369 00:21:02,320 --> 00:21:02,800 Speaker 2: Yeah. 370 00:21:02,920 --> 00:21:03,120 Speaker 4: Yeah. 371 00:21:03,160 --> 00:21:05,399 Speaker 5: And like an example I like to bring up is 372 00:21:05,680 --> 00:21:09,440 Speaker 5: like Ashley. You know my wife Allison, she's been She's 373 00:21:09,440 --> 00:21:13,919 Speaker 5: been around Bachelor people for many many years with respect, 374 00:21:14,000 --> 00:21:16,760 Speaker 5: she has had zero interest in the show until now. 375 00:21:16,920 --> 00:21:20,000 Speaker 5: Like she is a more secret lives a Mormon Wives fan. 376 00:21:20,119 --> 00:21:22,680 Speaker 5: She can't wait she will be watching Bachelorette this year. 377 00:21:22,880 --> 00:21:23,479 Speaker 5: She's pumped. 378 00:21:23,600 --> 00:21:37,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, my gut says that I am happy that this 379 00:21:37,920 --> 00:21:40,840 Speaker 2: decision was made because I think it's what's best for 380 00:21:40,880 --> 00:21:44,360 Speaker 2: the franchise and I want the franchise to thrive and 381 00:21:44,600 --> 00:21:47,280 Speaker 2: I think that this will get give it a boost. Agree, 382 00:21:47,560 --> 00:21:49,399 Speaker 2: I'm happy about it, all right. And if you guys 383 00:21:49,440 --> 00:21:53,479 Speaker 2: want to know more about Taylor's decision and all of 384 00:21:53,480 --> 00:21:56,919 Speaker 2: her plans as being the Bachelorette, listen to call her 385 00:21:56,960 --> 00:22:00,040 Speaker 2: Daddy interview. It's about an hour long, all right. And 386 00:22:00,119 --> 00:22:05,359 Speaker 2: now the Golden Bachelorette. The Golden Bachelor cast was announced 387 00:22:05,440 --> 00:22:07,600 Speaker 2: this week that the pictures and the bios have all 388 00:22:07,600 --> 00:22:11,440 Speaker 2: been released online. There's a podcast where Ben and Susan 389 00:22:11,720 --> 00:22:14,320 Speaker 2: broke it all down, so you guys can go check 390 00:22:14,359 --> 00:22:16,000 Speaker 2: that out. Now it's time for me to give my 391 00:22:16,160 --> 00:22:21,159 Speaker 2: quick predictions on this by just a quick swipe up 392 00:22:21,200 --> 00:22:24,679 Speaker 2: and down of this cast list. I have three women 393 00:22:25,160 --> 00:22:31,879 Speaker 2: that I think are going to be standouts. My Lynn, 394 00:22:32,840 --> 00:22:37,359 Speaker 2: the casino VIP hosts from Las Vegas. She knows four languages. 395 00:22:37,960 --> 00:22:41,400 Speaker 2: I think that just I'm this is based on looks alone. 396 00:22:41,480 --> 00:22:42,880 Speaker 2: You guys know that this is what we do. It's 397 00:22:42,920 --> 00:22:46,640 Speaker 2: a very vain segment of our show. I think that 398 00:22:46,680 --> 00:22:51,760 Speaker 2: she might be coming across as the sexiest and knowing 399 00:22:52,440 --> 00:22:57,240 Speaker 2: what we know about Mel, I do think that attractiveness 400 00:22:58,119 --> 00:23:00,159 Speaker 2: there's gonna be like a big component of physicality with 401 00:23:00,200 --> 00:23:04,480 Speaker 2: this man. He talked about not being attracted to people 402 00:23:04,520 --> 00:23:07,600 Speaker 2: like above the age of forty five. And I think 403 00:23:07,640 --> 00:23:10,159 Speaker 2: that she presents herself in just this one photo in 404 00:23:10,200 --> 00:23:12,639 Speaker 2: a very sexy way, and then she's a Vegas girl, 405 00:23:12,800 --> 00:23:14,320 Speaker 2: Like I just think that like he's going to be 406 00:23:14,359 --> 00:23:24,560 Speaker 2: pretty wooed by her. Then there is Nicole. She's from Miami. 407 00:23:24,600 --> 00:23:27,480 Speaker 2: She's very into health. We know that Mel is also 408 00:23:27,680 --> 00:23:30,800 Speaker 2: very into health. He really wanted to a woman who's 409 00:23:30,880 --> 00:23:34,679 Speaker 2: like was in shape and like again into aesthetics, but 410 00:23:34,720 --> 00:23:38,439 Speaker 2: also into physical health. He is an former NFL player. 411 00:23:38,560 --> 00:23:41,920 Speaker 2: I think that he made athleticism part of his life 412 00:23:41,920 --> 00:23:45,760 Speaker 2: through and through. This lady seems into that and again 413 00:23:46,040 --> 00:23:52,680 Speaker 2: also presents younger than her actual age. I'm sorry, I 414 00:23:52,680 --> 00:23:54,680 Speaker 2: don't have the cast up, Heather. Do you see what's 415 00:23:54,680 --> 00:23:56,720 Speaker 2: her age? Off hand? It's like sixty two or something. 416 00:23:57,760 --> 00:24:02,000 Speaker 2: Hold on, she is sixty five four, sixty four. She 417 00:24:02,040 --> 00:24:07,480 Speaker 2: doesn't not look sixty four. She's a hot lady. Think 418 00:24:07,520 --> 00:24:10,359 Speaker 2: that he's going to be into that. Then. My last 419 00:24:10,359 --> 00:24:12,840 Speaker 2: person on this list, and I think this could be 420 00:24:13,000 --> 00:24:19,760 Speaker 2: a very serious contender, is Maya Maia Maya. Would you 421 00:24:19,880 --> 00:24:24,399 Speaker 2: say that Maya Maya, Maya Maya. Okay, yeah, this woman 422 00:24:24,760 --> 00:24:27,879 Speaker 2: is below the technical I want to call it a 423 00:24:27,880 --> 00:24:32,680 Speaker 2: technical age set of sixty. On Gary season, we saw 424 00:24:32,720 --> 00:24:37,359 Speaker 2: nobody below sixty. On Jones season, we only saw Mark 425 00:24:37,800 --> 00:24:41,080 Speaker 2: under sixty. He was fifty seven, and he was obviously 426 00:24:41,119 --> 00:24:44,920 Speaker 2: on because he was Kelsey's dad and already a fan favorite. 427 00:24:45,080 --> 00:24:49,919 Speaker 2: We let him slide on that soft rule. This woman, Maya, 428 00:24:51,480 --> 00:24:55,880 Speaker 2: she is fifty eight and she is she looks good. 429 00:24:56,520 --> 00:25:01,040 Speaker 2: She's also a college sports consultant. She's had sports as 430 00:25:01,080 --> 00:25:03,560 Speaker 2: part of her life her entire way through, with her 431 00:25:03,560 --> 00:25:06,880 Speaker 2: boys and everything. There's a reason she let they let 432 00:25:06,920 --> 00:25:10,440 Speaker 2: her slip through at this age, and that's because they 433 00:25:10,480 --> 00:25:14,080 Speaker 2: think that she is so compatible with him. So I'm 434 00:25:14,119 --> 00:25:18,479 Speaker 2: excited to see where all that goes. Everybody likes me 435 00:25:18,560 --> 00:25:21,720 Speaker 2: to choose a villain from photos, too, which is kind 436 00:25:21,720 --> 00:25:23,920 Speaker 2: of hard, not my favorite thing. 437 00:25:24,520 --> 00:25:27,560 Speaker 3: What about maybe instead of villain, somebody who's gonna be 438 00:25:27,640 --> 00:25:32,000 Speaker 3: a stir or overly aggressive maybe in their approach. 439 00:25:32,760 --> 00:25:36,760 Speaker 2: All right, we might go with Terry. I can see 440 00:25:37,320 --> 00:25:42,600 Speaker 2: Terry having a little aggression. Let's go with that. You 441 00:25:42,600 --> 00:25:45,399 Speaker 2: guys know that I hate basing things off of It 442 00:25:45,440 --> 00:25:46,640 Speaker 2: makes me so uncomfortable. 443 00:25:46,720 --> 00:25:47,680 Speaker 4: It's all in fun. 444 00:25:47,960 --> 00:25:51,920 Speaker 2: I know it's in fun. Diane, She's gonna be a firecracker. 445 00:25:52,280 --> 00:25:54,280 Speaker 2: She's kind of like got a spiky cut. 446 00:25:55,920 --> 00:25:59,639 Speaker 3: I do love your predictions because it's so funny having 447 00:25:59,680 --> 00:26:02,560 Speaker 3: you and been doing this separately to see how in 448 00:26:02,680 --> 00:26:05,119 Speaker 3: sync you guys are, because I think two out of 449 00:26:05,119 --> 00:26:07,400 Speaker 3: your three that you chose are also the same that 450 00:26:07,440 --> 00:26:08,080 Speaker 3: he chose. 451 00:26:08,480 --> 00:26:08,680 Speaker 5: Oh. 452 00:26:08,720 --> 00:26:10,880 Speaker 2: I love that we should have her separately more often. 453 00:26:11,520 --> 00:26:15,320 Speaker 4: That's so funny. He absolutely loves my limb. He loves her. 454 00:26:15,359 --> 00:26:19,760 Speaker 2: Okay, and he liked Nicole, So like, okay, there we 455 00:26:19,920 --> 00:26:21,960 Speaker 2: just know Mel. We don't really know Mel. We've been 456 00:26:22,080 --> 00:26:24,720 Speaker 2: very judging towards Mel. But like, if we're going with 457 00:26:24,760 --> 00:26:28,119 Speaker 2: a guy who's basically just gonna make this about Hattyvatati's, like, 458 00:26:28,160 --> 00:26:30,680 Speaker 2: those are two Hattyvatatis. So there we go. 459 00:26:30,960 --> 00:26:35,520 Speaker 3: I think Lisa could have a strong possibility as well. 460 00:26:35,560 --> 00:26:40,800 Speaker 3: I think she's really pretty state park employee from Ohio, blonde. 461 00:26:40,720 --> 00:26:43,159 Speaker 2: Yes, she yes, I can see him. She has like 462 00:26:43,160 --> 00:26:45,280 Speaker 2: a Suzanne Summer's look. I can see that. 463 00:26:45,520 --> 00:26:50,360 Speaker 3: I also think Debbie, who's sixty five fitness professional from Denver, 464 00:26:51,760 --> 00:26:55,600 Speaker 3: all very fitness oriented, short brunette hair, I think she's 465 00:26:55,640 --> 00:26:57,520 Speaker 3: another strong contender as well. 466 00:26:57,760 --> 00:27:00,919 Speaker 2: Okay, yes, okay, she caught my eye as well. I 467 00:27:00,960 --> 00:27:02,239 Speaker 2: was going to add her to the list, but then 468 00:27:02,240 --> 00:27:05,199 Speaker 2: I scrolled down further and I saw more top three. 469 00:27:05,720 --> 00:27:09,960 Speaker 2: All right, let's get into the show. The other show 470 00:27:09,960 --> 00:27:12,480 Speaker 2: that we have going on, and that is the home 471 00:27:12,520 --> 00:27:18,480 Speaker 2: renovation show, Big Big News. I think the HGTV show 472 00:27:18,600 --> 00:27:23,480 Speaker 2: is starting to film this week, and someone that we 473 00:27:23,600 --> 00:27:26,440 Speaker 2: think has been a shoe in for this show posted 474 00:27:26,480 --> 00:27:28,879 Speaker 2: this week that he just landed in la and he 475 00:27:28,920 --> 00:27:31,879 Speaker 2: will call it home for the next month. It is 476 00:27:31,920 --> 00:27:35,000 Speaker 2: Tyler Cameron. It is so obvious that he will be 477 00:27:35,040 --> 00:27:39,439 Speaker 2: part of the show. He's whole Instagram and business is 478 00:27:39,520 --> 00:27:44,920 Speaker 2: around home renovation. He's even doing real estate with Ryan 479 00:27:45,040 --> 00:27:49,760 Speaker 2: Sarin and yeah, so we think that Tyler is definitely 480 00:27:49,800 --> 00:27:52,840 Speaker 2: there as the host of this show. And then very 481 00:27:52,880 --> 00:27:57,200 Speaker 2: interesting Alisha Alisha whatever you call her from this past 482 00:27:57,200 --> 00:28:00,480 Speaker 2: season a Bachelor in Paradise. She was very crypti and why. 483 00:28:00,520 --> 00:28:03,639 Speaker 2: She said that she had business opportunities that are keeping 484 00:28:03,680 --> 00:28:06,760 Speaker 2: her and Sean from focusing on their relationship. She said 485 00:28:06,800 --> 00:28:08,800 Speaker 2: she had to. It had to do with her interior 486 00:28:08,840 --> 00:28:12,200 Speaker 2: design background, and she wouldn't say more than that. So 487 00:28:12,400 --> 00:28:14,480 Speaker 2: my guess is that she will be one of the 488 00:28:14,560 --> 00:28:17,040 Speaker 2: contestants on the show. If you guys don't remember, the 489 00:28:17,960 --> 00:28:24,000 Speaker 2: format is that there will be bachelor contestants competing to 490 00:28:24,200 --> 00:28:31,640 Speaker 2: like renovate the house in their own ways. I guess, 491 00:28:31,840 --> 00:28:33,640 Speaker 2: do we know if it's a competition, like they will 492 00:28:33,640 --> 00:28:36,760 Speaker 2: be showing their chops basically and like saying this is 493 00:28:36,760 --> 00:28:38,680 Speaker 2: how I decorate this room, That's how I decorate that room, 494 00:28:38,720 --> 00:28:41,120 Speaker 2: and then like at the end of it all or 495 00:28:41,240 --> 00:28:44,720 Speaker 2: midway through, one person is crowned as the renovator of 496 00:28:44,760 --> 00:28:46,360 Speaker 2: the show, and then they will go forward with their 497 00:28:46,360 --> 00:28:47,200 Speaker 2: decore plans. 498 00:28:47,840 --> 00:28:51,120 Speaker 3: So if they're doing it like the way they did 499 00:28:51,120 --> 00:28:55,040 Speaker 3: the Brady Bunch Home Renovation show, it's gonna be everybody. 500 00:28:56,000 --> 00:28:58,480 Speaker 3: If they do it this way, it'll be people assigned 501 00:28:58,520 --> 00:29:01,960 Speaker 3: to specific rooms, and throughout the course of the season 502 00:29:02,160 --> 00:29:05,440 Speaker 3: you'll see all the renovations kind of happening at once, 503 00:29:05,840 --> 00:29:09,440 Speaker 3: with the giant reveal of the finished product at the end, 504 00:29:09,720 --> 00:29:12,480 Speaker 3: and then one winner being announced. 505 00:29:12,640 --> 00:29:16,640 Speaker 2: When winter being announced as like, what, like, what's their prize. 506 00:29:16,720 --> 00:29:18,560 Speaker 4: They're a cash prize for this show. 507 00:29:18,600 --> 00:29:20,400 Speaker 2: Oh, it's a cash prize. But then like, are we 508 00:29:20,480 --> 00:29:22,760 Speaker 2: going to keep the house decorated the way that they 509 00:29:22,760 --> 00:29:23,800 Speaker 2: wanted it decorated. 510 00:29:24,080 --> 00:29:26,720 Speaker 4: I think that's like still. 511 00:29:26,600 --> 00:29:29,400 Speaker 2: To that's new because Brady Bunch, They're not like going 512 00:29:29,440 --> 00:29:31,040 Speaker 2: to go film the Brady Bunch in the house. 513 00:29:31,240 --> 00:29:33,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean the Brady Bunch House, right. They also 514 00:29:33,400 --> 00:29:36,040 Speaker 3: were trying to recreate it to look like the set, 515 00:29:36,160 --> 00:29:38,760 Speaker 3: So you have very specific ways that you need to do. 516 00:29:38,640 --> 00:29:39,520 Speaker 4: That with this. 517 00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:42,480 Speaker 3: I think that's what part of the what we don't 518 00:29:42,520 --> 00:29:45,160 Speaker 3: know about this show is like, will each room. 519 00:29:44,960 --> 00:29:45,600 Speaker 4: Have a theme? 520 00:29:46,120 --> 00:29:49,920 Speaker 3: Will certain rooms be switching spots in the mansion? I 521 00:29:49,920 --> 00:29:52,080 Speaker 3: don't know how you know deep they're gonna get with 522 00:29:52,280 --> 00:29:56,520 Speaker 3: knocking down build knocking down walls or is this just 523 00:29:56,640 --> 00:30:00,400 Speaker 3: more of like a visual refresh of the house. Okay. 524 00:30:01,120 --> 00:30:04,200 Speaker 2: Also something to make note of is that they're filming 525 00:30:04,240 --> 00:30:07,120 Speaker 2: this show for the next month, So let's just say 526 00:30:07,160 --> 00:30:10,400 Speaker 2: that takes us to the second week of October. Does 527 00:30:10,440 --> 00:30:13,160 Speaker 2: that mean that right away will be starting to film 528 00:30:13,280 --> 00:30:17,120 Speaker 2: Taylor's season? I think yes, But I also think that's 529 00:30:17,160 --> 00:30:21,720 Speaker 2: getting us really close down to Thanksgiving time. So actually 530 00:30:21,760 --> 00:30:25,960 Speaker 2: I'm gonna say probably not. I don't know when her 531 00:30:26,120 --> 00:30:30,240 Speaker 2: season will start filming unless they do a sped up version, 532 00:30:30,560 --> 00:30:34,280 Speaker 2: unless they don't do it at the Mansion at first. 533 00:30:34,280 --> 00:30:36,800 Speaker 2: Maybe they end at the mansion and they go travel first. 534 00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:41,680 Speaker 2: Because usually Thanksgiving to Christmas is a big heart New 535 00:30:41,760 --> 00:30:45,760 Speaker 2: Year's is a big hard no for production. They like 536 00:30:45,840 --> 00:30:49,800 Speaker 2: did Winter Games for ten days at the beginning of December, 537 00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:53,680 Speaker 2: but they're not going to have a season run into Thanksgiving, 538 00:30:53,760 --> 00:30:57,120 Speaker 2: and normally the season would start filming the week of 539 00:30:57,160 --> 00:31:00,840 Speaker 2: September twenty something. So what's your take on that Heather. 540 00:31:01,520 --> 00:31:07,120 Speaker 3: I'm I'm interested too, because right the only Bachelorette mom 541 00:31:07,160 --> 00:31:09,600 Speaker 3: that I can remember is Emily Maynard. 542 00:31:09,760 --> 00:31:10,000 Speaker 2: Man. 543 00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:13,320 Speaker 4: I know that they had to make special you know. 544 00:31:13,480 --> 00:31:16,920 Speaker 2: Filming they did. They shot it in North Carolina, and 545 00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:19,160 Speaker 2: I loved that they did it in North Carolina. And 546 00:31:19,240 --> 00:31:22,800 Speaker 2: I think for further promotion of Mormon wives, I say, 547 00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:24,840 Speaker 2: why not just start at her house? 548 00:31:25,160 --> 00:31:28,719 Speaker 3: And she's got three kids, so that's I think a 549 00:31:28,760 --> 00:31:31,960 Speaker 3: lot to uproot and take them to Los Angeles. 550 00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:33,080 Speaker 4: Not saying it couldn't be. 551 00:31:33,080 --> 00:31:37,200 Speaker 3: Done, but I think, yeah, that maybe maybe the show 552 00:31:37,280 --> 00:31:41,200 Speaker 3: starts out in Utah and moves filming to Los Angeles. 553 00:31:41,280 --> 00:31:44,280 Speaker 2: I don't know. Yeah, I think that is the way 554 00:31:44,320 --> 00:31:46,400 Speaker 2: that they should do it. I think it's too long, 555 00:31:47,040 --> 00:31:49,440 Speaker 2: This is not too this is not shaving Taylor at all. 556 00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:51,520 Speaker 2: I don't think she's going to go two months without 557 00:31:51,520 --> 00:31:55,360 Speaker 2: seeing your kids now. I think that she will. She 558 00:31:55,480 --> 00:31:58,040 Speaker 2: would not want to do that for that reason, So 559 00:31:58,080 --> 00:32:00,680 Speaker 2: I think they're growing to accommodate her in some way. 560 00:32:00,840 --> 00:32:02,640 Speaker 2: I think it makes sense to start it in Utah, 561 00:32:02,920 --> 00:32:07,280 Speaker 2: get a big, fancy mountain house out there, that'll be 562 00:32:07,280 --> 00:32:09,120 Speaker 2: a great start, and then like maybe have like a 563 00:32:09,120 --> 00:32:12,800 Speaker 2: cool reveal for the proposal or the Final four or 564 00:32:12,880 --> 00:32:16,920 Speaker 2: fantasy suites. I don't know how much ABC is going 565 00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:20,440 Speaker 2: to let the HGTV show integrate into them. 566 00:32:21,600 --> 00:32:23,680 Speaker 4: You know, that's that's a good thing to bring up. 567 00:32:23,920 --> 00:32:26,600 Speaker 3: I know that you just speculated earlier that you think 568 00:32:26,640 --> 00:32:30,479 Speaker 3: Tyler Cameron is going to be the host. I'm guessing 569 00:32:30,520 --> 00:32:34,200 Speaker 3: he's a contestant. Really yeah, And I'll say, because I 570 00:32:34,240 --> 00:32:38,520 Speaker 3: think HGTV is going to make their HGTV talent the 571 00:32:38,560 --> 00:32:39,719 Speaker 3: hosts of the shows. 572 00:32:39,880 --> 00:32:42,840 Speaker 2: Okay, okay, that makes sense. And we want to see Taylor's, 573 00:32:43,120 --> 00:32:44,680 Speaker 2: Tyler's work in action. 574 00:32:44,520 --> 00:32:45,120 Speaker 4: Tylor's work. 575 00:32:45,160 --> 00:32:47,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, It's like, sorry, did I say Taylor too? I 576 00:32:47,760 --> 00:32:51,040 Speaker 3: know I learned, but yeah, I think, like, right, we're 577 00:32:51,040 --> 00:32:52,800 Speaker 3: going to see the Property Brothers in there. 578 00:32:52,840 --> 00:32:54,360 Speaker 4: I'm yeah, we're going. 579 00:32:54,320 --> 00:32:59,720 Speaker 3: To see maybe the Taric and you know, Flip or 580 00:32:59,800 --> 00:33:02,440 Speaker 3: floor couple coming in there and doing some stuff, you 581 00:33:02,480 --> 00:33:03,080 Speaker 3: know what I mean. 582 00:33:03,280 --> 00:33:05,000 Speaker 4: And I think they're going to be. 583 00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:09,160 Speaker 3: Working alongside some of these Bachelor alum that will be. 584 00:33:09,160 --> 00:33:10,800 Speaker 4: There for the duration of filming. 585 00:33:10,840 --> 00:33:12,520 Speaker 3: What I do like is that it doesn't sound like 586 00:33:12,520 --> 00:33:19,680 Speaker 3: it's competition elimination. I am concerned after the Paradise prize. 587 00:33:20,240 --> 00:33:23,400 Speaker 3: If this prize money is going to be a little lackluster, 588 00:33:24,040 --> 00:33:25,840 Speaker 3: but I guess I want to wait and see. 589 00:33:26,400 --> 00:33:30,000 Speaker 2: I don't think it's gonna hit the six digits. 590 00:33:30,040 --> 00:33:32,719 Speaker 3: It's definitely not going to be five hundred thousand. That 591 00:33:32,880 --> 00:33:36,680 Speaker 3: is not going to be an HGTV prize cash. 592 00:33:36,760 --> 00:33:39,640 Speaker 4: But I'm definitely going to watch. 593 00:33:39,800 --> 00:33:42,320 Speaker 2: I will say, yeah, I'll definitely watch too. It may 594 00:33:42,320 --> 00:33:44,160 Speaker 2: not be a week to weeks hitch, but like it'll 595 00:33:44,160 --> 00:33:47,520 Speaker 2: definitely be on in a stream format. 596 00:33:47,640 --> 00:33:48,640 Speaker 4: Yeah agree. 597 00:33:49,120 --> 00:33:51,719 Speaker 2: Alrighty well, Heather, thank you so much for all your 598 00:33:51,760 --> 00:33:56,040 Speaker 2: opinions and for just your expertise and all this you 599 00:33:56,120 --> 00:33:59,200 Speaker 2: are so up to. You just know your okay, and 600 00:33:59,240 --> 00:34:02,239 Speaker 2: I love that for me and I love you for it, 601 00:34:02,800 --> 00:34:06,320 Speaker 2: and guys, we will talk to you very very soon 602 00:34:06,480 --> 00:34:09,080 Speaker 2: and hope Ben will be back with me. And until then, 603 00:34:09,160 --> 00:34:12,560 Speaker 2: I've been Ashley and I've been Heather. 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