WEBVTT - Dame Helen Mirren's Advice for Avoiding Cosmetic Surgery: Bathroom Lighting 0:00:09.280 --> 0:00:14.240 Hey there everybody. It is Saturday, January seventeenth. 0:00:13.520 --> 0:00:18.200 And wow, I saw an article this week that I 0:00:18.360 --> 0:00:19.360 was so impressed with. 0:00:19.480 --> 0:00:20.560 You love Helen Mirren. 0:00:20.800 --> 0:00:23.759 By the way, she's one of your absolute favorite actresses. 0:00:23.800 --> 0:00:25.320 You talk about her quite a bit. 0:00:25.520 --> 0:00:28.280 Let mean, that sounded creepy, but yes, I'm a fan. Jesus. 0:00:30.120 --> 0:00:32.440 She is one of those women I think a lot 0:00:32.600 --> 0:00:34.760 of us women look up to. 0:00:34.960 --> 0:00:36.360 She's eighty years old. 0:00:36.920 --> 0:00:40.640 She's aging beautifully and aging very differently than a lot 0:00:40.640 --> 0:00:44.240 of women were seeing that are in the spotlight, certainly 0:00:44.280 --> 0:00:47.040 actors and actresses. And I will say, babe, as a woman, 0:00:47.760 --> 0:00:50.840 knowing that a man can look at someone who's eighty 0:00:51.360 --> 0:00:56.400 who has chosen not to do anything surgically to her 0:00:56.400 --> 0:00:58.720 face or and she talks about all of this, that 0:00:58.840 --> 0:01:01.840 you can find her sexy and appealing and strong. And 0:01:01.880 --> 0:01:06.480 I mean, I'm telling you hearing you say that, actually 0:01:06.760 --> 0:01:12.080 is it just makes sense comforting to women who are aging, like, Wow, 0:01:12.200 --> 0:01:15.839 you can be beautiful, you can be sexy, embracing your age. 0:01:15.920 --> 0:01:18.160 Don't listen to me. We don't listen to me about it. 0:01:18.240 --> 0:01:21.120 Unfortunately, folks, too too often a man and men and 0:01:21.120 --> 0:01:23.679 women look to outside forces to validate, to make them 0:01:23.680 --> 0:01:25.560 feel good about what they're doing or how they're looking, 0:01:25.640 --> 0:01:29.200 and how the miriad for me is not just her appearance. 0:01:29.200 --> 0:01:32.920 And I think she is regarded as classically beautiful in 0:01:32.959 --> 0:01:35.320 a lot of circles. She's an eighty year old woman, 0:01:35.360 --> 0:01:37.959 and my crush probably started certainly after she was sixty. 0:01:38.440 --> 0:01:41.720 But she's absolutely one of my celebrity without a doubt. 0:01:41.800 --> 0:01:43.480 And it's not just the way she looks, but the 0:01:43.480 --> 0:01:46.080 way she carries herself, her confidence, and yes, it comes 0:01:46.080 --> 0:01:48.200 through in an article like this one you're talking about. 0:01:49.240 --> 0:01:50.800 She just doesn't give a shit. 0:01:50.960 --> 0:01:53.880 She just wants She's just herself and not trying to 0:01:53.960 --> 0:01:55.680 put on or be this or be that, and that 0:01:55.760 --> 0:01:56.560 is attractive as hell. 0:01:56.960 --> 0:02:01.520 Yeah, isn't that amazing? There were so many nuggets of 0:02:01.680 --> 0:02:04.440 wisdom in this article she sat down with L magazine, 0:02:04.480 --> 0:02:07.080 and I think, look, I'm fifty two, about to turn 0:02:07.160 --> 0:02:11.160 fifty three. But whatever age you are, if you're a 0:02:11.160 --> 0:02:15.240 woman listening everyone, I would think most women, unfortunately, are 0:02:15.280 --> 0:02:18.240 concerned about aging, what they're going to look like, how 0:02:18.240 --> 0:02:22.120 they're going to handle their first wrinkles or their many wrinkles, 0:02:22.240 --> 0:02:24.400 or their sagging skin, and are they going to be 0:02:24.440 --> 0:02:26.440 attractive because valuable. 0:02:26.560 --> 0:02:28.320 What are we talking about? But what is a concern? 0:02:28.440 --> 0:02:29.160 My first wrinkle? 0:02:29.160 --> 0:02:31.960 Oh hell, I have a wrinkle now, So this means blank, like, 0:02:32.000 --> 0:02:34.320 what is the next thing in the concern? I can 0:02:34.320 --> 0:02:36.639 say it generally, but I'm saying I'm asking someone to 0:02:36.840 --> 0:02:37.600 articulate it. 0:02:37.960 --> 0:02:38.480 What is it. 0:02:38.800 --> 0:02:40.840 I'm not going to be able to find a mate, 0:02:40.880 --> 0:02:42.680 I'm not going to be as attractive in the office. 0:02:42.840 --> 0:02:45.079 They're going to be younger women out. What is the thing? 0:02:46.080 --> 0:02:51.240 It actually completely speaks to a woman's value. And I 0:02:51.280 --> 0:02:55.240 remember a friend of mine when she turned sixty, she 0:02:55.440 --> 0:03:01.400 said to me, there is nothing more lonely than being 0:03:01.560 --> 0:03:06.919 a middle or older, aging woman because you become invisible 0:03:07.360 --> 0:03:10.040 and you recognize it that all of a sudden, Because 0:03:10.080 --> 0:03:14.080 I do think women, without realizing it, recognize their value 0:03:14.160 --> 0:03:15.520 or feel their worth in. 0:03:17.000 --> 0:03:18.440 How they're viewed. 0:03:18.680 --> 0:03:20.240 So I guess that's never going to change. Is that 0:03:20.280 --> 0:03:20.800 where we are? 0:03:21.360 --> 0:03:23.200 I think all of us would like it to change, 0:03:23.200 --> 0:03:25.320 But if we're being honest and having an honest conversation, 0:03:25.360 --> 0:03:28.880 it's probably not going to change. So you can blame society, 0:03:28.960 --> 0:03:31.200 and you can blame the culture, and you can blame 0:03:31.639 --> 0:03:34.560 that women have traditionally been given value for their ability 0:03:34.600 --> 0:03:36.880 to have children, and your ability to have children is 0:03:36.920 --> 0:03:39.160 your ability to attract a man, and your ability to 0:03:39.200 --> 0:03:41.280 attract a man has everything to do with how you look. 0:03:41.640 --> 0:03:45.000 So, yes, that is where we are and probably where 0:03:45.000 --> 0:03:45.840 we're going to stay. 0:03:45.920 --> 0:03:48.120 But women make different decisions and that's okay. Yeah, you 0:03:48.160 --> 0:03:50.440 can make a decision like Helen Miron has, or you 0:03:50.480 --> 0:03:53.280 can make a decision like Chris Jenner has. Correct both 0:03:53.280 --> 0:03:57.880 are okay, and both send very different messages. But who 0:03:57.960 --> 0:04:01.240 is going to be following along at the age as 0:04:01.240 --> 0:04:04.280 they're watching at eight, nine, ten, eleven, twelve, thirteen, fourteen, 0:04:04.320 --> 0:04:06.400 and fifteen watching Keeping Up with the Kardashians, are they 0:04:06.440 --> 0:04:09.160 going to see that as the option or are they're 0:04:09.200 --> 0:04:12.080 gonna say, you know what, dame, oh the dame. 0:04:12.160 --> 0:04:13.200 What's her name again? 0:04:13.240 --> 0:04:16.559 Oh yeah, Helen Mirren one of the movies I've seen, 0:04:16.960 --> 0:04:19.520 she's you know what, I'm gonna go with her route 0:04:19.720 --> 0:04:21.960 because I don't believe because I got a thirteen year 0:04:22.000 --> 0:04:26.159 old now who knows where everything is, and Sophara, that's 0:04:26.160 --> 0:04:28.640 a problem for me at least, excuse. 0:04:28.320 --> 0:04:30.320 Me, no, And I get that, and we can and 0:04:30.320 --> 0:04:33.600 that's something to talk about because I do think though 0:04:33.720 --> 0:04:36.560 an article like this and seeing Helen Mirren be as 0:04:36.640 --> 0:04:39.480 confident and as strong and as beautiful as she is, 0:04:40.120 --> 0:04:44.200 it is important. And I'm so happy that she spoke 0:04:44.320 --> 0:04:48.240 up and spoke out about this because she isn't judging anyone, 0:04:48.240 --> 0:04:52.200 but it does give women, young girls, aging women. We're 0:04:52.240 --> 0:04:56.760 all getting older obviously by every day, another alternative to 0:04:56.800 --> 0:04:59.440 thinking I have to get the surgery, I have to 0:04:59.520 --> 0:05:02.320 spend this money. I have to have full lips, I 0:05:02.360 --> 0:05:05.160 have to have full hair, I have to have tight 0:05:05.240 --> 0:05:08.480 skin in order to feel good about myself. So this 0:05:09.400 --> 0:05:13.200 article in l magazine by Helen miron or interviewing Helen 0:05:13.240 --> 0:05:15.000 Mirren is important. 0:05:15.120 --> 0:05:17.960 That is why I really wanted. 0:05:17.680 --> 0:05:20.279 To do this episode, because what she had to say 0:05:20.839 --> 0:05:24.640 is not being heard very loudly by a lot of people. 0:05:26.160 --> 0:05:28.640 And will her mercers get amplified? Who knows well? 0:05:28.800 --> 0:05:31.000 Hoping to do so by talking a little bit about 0:05:31.000 --> 0:05:34.039 what she said, I started out with my favorite quote 0:05:34.080 --> 0:05:37.560 she had during the entire article. She said, I don't 0:05:37.600 --> 0:05:41.599 call it growing old, I call it growing up. She 0:05:41.760 --> 0:05:44.279 is an adult, and you've always respected that about people 0:05:44.279 --> 0:05:46.960 when they act like adults. 0:05:46.920 --> 0:05:48.240 You act your age and you look your age. 0:05:48.240 --> 0:05:53.640 It's okay to age, and I look, I'm everybody's fighting it, right. 0:05:54.080 --> 0:05:56.919 Every commercial you see is of when you watch sports. 0:05:56.960 --> 0:05:59.080 It's a rod Gain commercial, right. Those guys want to 0:05:59.080 --> 0:06:03.200 hold onto their hair. I mean everybody is vain to 0:06:03.279 --> 0:06:06.520 some degree, to a great degree. And while we don't 0:06:06.520 --> 0:06:08.400 admit that, I don't know. I don't know where we 0:06:08.480 --> 0:06:10.400 get and where she has gotten. I guess when you 0:06:10.520 --> 0:06:13.200 have dame in front of your name, you know you 0:06:13.279 --> 0:06:14.640 can afford not to give a damn. 0:06:14.880 --> 0:06:16.400 Yeah, But I don't know. 0:06:16.480 --> 0:06:19.360 I'm trying to think of another Who else out there 0:06:19.480 --> 0:06:22.440 is aging? Who is elected to their couple of women 0:06:22.480 --> 0:06:26.839 Alicia Keys and Pamela Anderson who've made a declaration about makeup? Yep, 0:06:28.080 --> 0:06:32.400 Who out there is aging beautifully and gracefully and appropriately. 0:06:32.520 --> 0:06:34.960 I'm thinking about the Glenn Closest of the world, the 0:06:34.960 --> 0:06:35.960 Meryl Streeps of the world. 0:06:36.000 --> 0:06:38.280 The Glenn Closest had work done for sure. 0:06:38.120 --> 0:06:40.599 The Angela Bassetts of the world, who doesn't seem to 0:06:40.640 --> 0:06:41.200 age at all. 0:06:41.240 --> 0:06:43.400 I don't know what she's doing, yes. 0:06:43.440 --> 0:06:46.400 But I'm thinking about those women who are I think, 0:06:46.520 --> 0:06:50.200 become sexier and more attractive because they are their age 0:06:50.240 --> 0:06:53.320 and they look their age and they're acting confidently in 0:06:53.360 --> 0:06:58.240 their age. That is attractive. The lip flip thing is 0:06:59.000 --> 0:07:01.839 again for everybody else, that's fine. But you see people 0:07:01.920 --> 0:07:06.560 trying to in such obvious ways alter and that's fine. 0:07:06.680 --> 0:07:08.200 I hate to say it in such a way that 0:07:08.360 --> 0:07:09.960 I'm shitting on folks who do that. 0:07:09.960 --> 0:07:11.680 That is not the case. I'm just saying you. 0:07:12.040 --> 0:07:15.160 I do look at them, and I find value and 0:07:15.280 --> 0:07:20.280 attractiveness in people doing things that other people do to 0:07:20.320 --> 0:07:21.200 make themselves attractive. 0:07:21.440 --> 0:07:24.040 Correct, Yes, And I do think there is this danger, 0:07:24.080 --> 0:07:26.760 and look, I struggle with it. I struggle with what 0:07:27.360 --> 0:07:31.120 I am doing and what I will potentially do You 0:07:31.160 --> 0:07:32.960 start to think about when you get to a certain age, 0:07:33.000 --> 0:07:34.720 what will I do when I'm sixty? What will I 0:07:34.760 --> 0:07:38.000 do when I'm seventy? Will I get a facelift? Do 0:07:38.080 --> 0:07:40.720 I want any of these things that I see other 0:07:40.760 --> 0:07:41.360 women doing. 0:07:41.440 --> 0:07:44.240 I mean, even my twenty three year old. 0:07:44.200 --> 0:07:49.200 Sent me when Chris Jenner revealed her second facelift for 0:07:49.240 --> 0:07:54.560 her seventieth birthday, she does look incredible. That surgery, or 0:07:54.600 --> 0:07:57.520 those surgeries I believe, have been estimated to cost upwards 0:07:57.520 --> 0:08:01.640 of two hundred thousand dollars. So it's not available to 0:08:01.800 --> 0:08:05.040 the vast majority of us. But you start to wonder, 0:08:05.080 --> 0:08:09.360 like that, is that what the ideal look is at 0:08:09.400 --> 0:08:15.080 seventy or do you look at eighty year old Helen 0:08:15.120 --> 0:08:18.360 Mirren and say, is that you know is a symbol 0:08:18.360 --> 0:08:18.720 of beauty? 0:08:18.760 --> 0:08:20.680 But isn't it just to each her own, to each 0:08:20.800 --> 0:08:22.560 his and her own? And shouldn't it be that no 0:08:22.560 --> 0:08:24.920 one should be criticized Helen Mirren shouldn't be, and Chris 0:08:24.960 --> 0:08:26.040 Jenner shouldn't. 0:08:25.640 --> 0:08:28.160 Be, shouldn't be, but the pressures on and the comments 0:08:28.240 --> 0:08:31.200 are a plenty, and that is the issue. 0:08:31.520 --> 0:08:32.880 I do think it's interesting. 0:08:32.679 --> 0:08:36.840 Helen Mirren, and I appreciate her approach, again completely non judgmental. 0:08:36.840 --> 0:08:39.600 But she talked about that early on in her career, 0:08:39.640 --> 0:08:42.320 a film director told her she would never have a 0:08:42.360 --> 0:08:45.360 career unless she had a nose job, and she now 0:08:45.400 --> 0:08:48.960 says that was one rather silly man. So I love 0:08:49.000 --> 0:08:50.880 how she just let that role offer and even as 0:08:50.920 --> 0:08:53.280 a young woman wanting to get into the business, she 0:08:53.400 --> 0:08:57.400 didn't let that directive put her in that position where 0:08:57.400 --> 0:08:58.320 she felt like she had to. 0:08:58.400 --> 0:09:00.800 She did it her way. She kept her is exactly 0:09:00.800 --> 0:09:01.400 as it is. 0:09:01.840 --> 0:09:03.320 And it actually made me look at her nose in 0:09:03.320 --> 0:09:06.040 this picture is like, wow, could she It's a little crooked, but. 0:09:06.040 --> 0:09:08.240 It's her nose and it's cool and that's her choice. 0:09:08.240 --> 0:09:14.040 Well, how many same thing singers, actors that you see 0:09:14.040 --> 0:09:16.640 are before in an after picture and they do not 0:09:17.080 --> 0:09:20.160 look at all. They have turned themselves into something that 0:09:20.200 --> 0:09:25.280 they at least feel is more photogenic, maybe more teleigenic, 0:09:25.960 --> 0:09:27.560 and they are wildly successful. 0:09:27.720 --> 0:09:28.960 Yeah, that's true. 0:09:29.040 --> 0:09:29.800 Someone can make. 0:09:29.720 --> 0:09:32.400 The same argument that yeah, I didn't change mine and 0:09:32.480 --> 0:09:34.319 I still made it through. Others will say, yeah, I 0:09:34.440 --> 0:09:36.600 change up, and when I did, things took off for me. 0:09:37.559 --> 0:09:40.440 I think the point with what Helen Miron is saying 0:09:40.480 --> 0:09:43.720 is that she provides another alternative that feels like a 0:09:44.040 --> 0:09:47.000 very positive way forward, and we need more of those 0:09:47.800 --> 0:09:52.320 folks in the spotlight. So young girls, middle aged girls, 0:09:52.600 --> 0:09:55.520 aging women can see that and go I can see 0:09:55.559 --> 0:09:57.800 that as a way forward versus feeling the pressure of 0:09:57.800 --> 0:10:00.840 doing the opposite. She said, I'm not against plastics, and 0:10:00.880 --> 0:10:03.959 I want to say that very clearly. If it makes 0:10:04.080 --> 0:10:07.640 someone feel better, then why not. Life is too short 0:10:07.679 --> 0:10:10.000 to be miserable about elements. 0:10:09.520 --> 0:10:10.320 Of your face. 0:10:11.120 --> 0:10:13.280 How would you feel if Sabine said she wanted to 0:10:13.400 --> 0:10:15.080 change or get plastic surgery. 0:10:15.160 --> 0:10:17.040 She wanted to. I don't know whatever it is that 0:10:17.080 --> 0:10:18.520 she would do. She's gorgeous. 0:10:18.679 --> 0:10:20.079 Tough conversation. I have to listen. 0:10:20.160 --> 0:10:22.360 That's a very very tough conversation. And we spend a 0:10:22.440 --> 0:10:28.160 lot of time with her and having conversations about being 0:10:28.240 --> 0:10:31.840 very careful about how she dresses, what impression she's giving 0:10:31.880 --> 0:10:34.040 to other people. How many of these things do you 0:10:34.120 --> 0:10:36.079 really need from Sophora right now? 0:10:36.120 --> 0:10:36.280 Now? 0:10:36.280 --> 0:10:37.840 What do you need this for? The eyes? And what 0:10:37.920 --> 0:10:38.079 is it? 0:10:38.480 --> 0:10:42.600 We are constantly engaged with her about what she's doing and. 0:10:44.679 --> 0:10:47.600 Look it. What'd you say, eleven to twelve to thirty? 0:10:47.960 --> 0:10:50.640 When was the year that it might have been eleven 0:10:50.679 --> 0:10:53.680 to twelve, like it was a different child. 0:10:53.800 --> 0:10:57.520 Yes, yes, I think that's exactly from sixth to seventh grade. 0:10:57.840 --> 0:10:59.559 A lot of people will say it's around the time 0:10:59.600 --> 0:11:04.120 a girl, it's her period. That is when everything changes, hormones, 0:11:04.320 --> 0:11:06.040 body mind. 0:11:05.920 --> 0:11:11.160 Different kid, different concerns, everything, hair, how she dresses, what 0:11:11.240 --> 0:11:13.800 she's concerned about, how people view her. 0:11:14.760 --> 0:11:15.720 It's totally different. 0:11:15.760 --> 0:11:17.959 We talk all the time. When we're walking down the street, 0:11:18.000 --> 0:11:19.920 we watch people. It's something we love to do. But 0:11:20.000 --> 0:11:22.040 you see a girl who is under the age of 0:11:22.240 --> 0:11:25.440 ten and under, and the confidence almost every one of 0:11:25.480 --> 0:11:29.480 these girls has, walking with just her chest up, her arms, 0:11:29.480 --> 0:11:32.760 swinging a skip in her step, doesn't care if her 0:11:32.800 --> 0:11:35.320 hair is a mess, what she's wearing, what shoes she 0:11:35.400 --> 0:11:37.360 has on, It doesn't matter. 0:11:37.440 --> 0:11:40.400 There's just this freedom, and this a freedom. 0:11:40.080 --> 0:11:43.760 To be her, to express herself without worrying about what 0:11:43.880 --> 0:11:46.800 she looks like and can see the moment it changes. 0:11:47.160 --> 0:11:50.120 Yeah, and a few months ago we were literally hiding 0:11:50.360 --> 0:11:53.040 in Oculus Mall because she didn't want to be seen 0:11:53.440 --> 0:11:55.840 with her dad, because she's worried about how she would 0:11:55.840 --> 0:11:59.160 appear to some other friends that she knew were running 0:11:59.160 --> 0:12:02.319 around the building. I'm saying, is to that what you're saying, 0:12:03.320 --> 0:12:07.840 something happens to where you always say this. Girls realize 0:12:09.000 --> 0:12:10.640 how much power they have in their parents. 0:12:10.760 --> 0:12:10.960 Yep. 0:12:11.080 --> 0:12:13.439 They start getting attention for it, and now it becomes 0:12:13.520 --> 0:12:17.040 so important. And to see that happening with a child 0:12:17.080 --> 0:12:18.520 now twelve and thirteen. 0:12:18.320 --> 0:12:19.880 Is uncomfortable yep. 0:12:20.120 --> 0:12:22.439 And then so you see it happening when they start 0:12:22.480 --> 0:12:25.400 realizing their power but then realizing how quickly it could 0:12:25.400 --> 0:12:28.320 go away. Then you have the flip side of women 0:12:28.440 --> 0:12:32.880 who are in their thirties, forties, fifties, sixties, seeing that power. 0:12:32.920 --> 0:12:35.079 I hate to use it like that, but that influence 0:12:35.120 --> 0:12:39.160 they have or fading and going away, and so they're 0:12:39.240 --> 0:12:41.840 desperate to bring it back. And so you can see 0:12:41.880 --> 0:12:45.840 the two ends of that spectrum and what is it? 0:12:45.880 --> 0:12:47.000 One are what is that? 0:12:47.120 --> 0:12:48.760 Right as we're doing this, we're just happen to have 0:12:48.760 --> 0:12:54.360 the TV on and all these beauty products are being Yes, there's. 0:12:54.200 --> 0:12:57.120 A big focus now on these red light masks or 0:12:57.120 --> 0:12:58.120 these masks that you could. 0:12:58.120 --> 0:12:58.839 I don't know if that's one. 0:12:58.800 --> 0:13:01.720 Of those, but boosting this is mask. 0:13:01.920 --> 0:13:03.840 Look, I'm constantly looking to boost coologen. 0:13:03.960 --> 0:13:07.840 You know. Is this struggle like trying to fight aging 0:13:08.000 --> 0:13:11.960 and fight nature a little bit without amending how I 0:13:12.040 --> 0:13:15.760 look or changing, you know, but you are in a way. 0:13:16.120 --> 0:13:19.840 Oh my gosh, the Vegas, the Vegas situation. We went 0:13:19.920 --> 0:13:21.640 down to a gift shop. We were just trying to 0:13:21.640 --> 0:13:23.679 get something in our Vegas hotel, just to grab a 0:13:23.760 --> 0:13:25.959 quick something. We were in that two hours and some 0:13:26.040 --> 0:13:29.880 dude made us spend untold amounts of money because he 0:13:30.040 --> 0:13:31.760 sold you on some beauty product. 0:13:32.000 --> 0:13:34.240 It's so true, I fully admit it. Oh my god, 0:13:34.320 --> 0:13:36.480 it was you get sucked in. Someone tells you, if 0:13:36.480 --> 0:13:39.040 you just put this on your face, you'll look ten 0:13:39.120 --> 0:13:39.840 years younger. 0:13:40.040 --> 0:13:42.920 I'm in, who wouldn't be in? I get that. 0:13:43.040 --> 0:13:46.319 But when we come back, I want to I want 0:13:46.360 --> 0:13:48.319 to get to the part of the article where Helen 0:13:48.400 --> 0:13:53.520 Mirren gives an incredible life hack for anyone who. 0:13:53.400 --> 0:13:54.880 Is considering plastic surgery. 0:13:54.920 --> 0:13:58.880 She says, do this before you make that appointment with 0:13:59.120 --> 0:13:59.720 a surgeon. 0:14:09.960 --> 0:14:11.920 All right, welcome back here, folks. We'll continue on Amy 0:14:11.960 --> 0:14:14.679 and TJ. We are getting beauty tips from eighty year 0:14:14.720 --> 0:14:17.960 old Dame Helen Mirren, one of my absolute favorite. She 0:14:18.160 --> 0:14:21.360 is one of my celebrity crushes. And we were going 0:14:21.400 --> 0:14:24.520 in talking about a hack. All right, this is the thing. 0:14:24.560 --> 0:14:27.480 Now everybody has a hack. You want plastic surgery, Oh, 0:14:27.520 --> 0:14:30.600 we got a hack for that. Come on, now, can 0:14:30.600 --> 0:14:33.880 you really have a hack pleasant for plastic surgery. 0:14:33.680 --> 0:14:37.240 Maybe even for avoiding classic surgery. Honestly, this was my favorite. 0:14:37.600 --> 0:14:41.320 This was such a hilarious way to put it, and 0:14:41.360 --> 0:14:44.600 I think any woman who's listening to this will admit 0:14:44.720 --> 0:14:48.000 this is so true and actually phenomenal advice. 0:14:48.040 --> 0:14:50.200 I never thought about it like this, she said. 0:14:50.120 --> 0:14:55.080 Before contemplating anything, get really good lighting in your bathroom, 0:14:55.320 --> 0:14:57.880 so that whenever you look in the mirror, you are 0:14:58.000 --> 0:15:01.440 lit beautifully and you look because from that point on 0:15:01.920 --> 0:15:05.240 it really doesn't matter. You've just seen that last image 0:15:05.240 --> 0:15:08.040 of yourself and think, oh, I look fabulous, and off 0:15:08.080 --> 0:15:11.280 you go. It is a lot cheaper than getting a facelift. 0:15:11.360 --> 0:15:14.080 I am serious about the good lighting in the bathroom. 0:15:14.400 --> 0:15:19.240 Bad lighting is so depressing, so true. I think it 0:15:19.280 --> 0:15:22.120 would be a terrible mistake to get plastic surgery when 0:15:22.160 --> 0:15:23.120 you're in your twenties. 0:15:23.440 --> 0:15:24.640 Your face changes. 0:15:25.000 --> 0:15:27.320 I don't like to criticize or attack people for doing 0:15:27.400 --> 0:15:30.440 what makes them happy, but do try to take a 0:15:30.440 --> 0:15:33.560 look to sorry, but to try to look like a 0:15:33.560 --> 0:15:38.040 fake picture of yourself would be terrible. And that's so interesting. 0:15:38.080 --> 0:15:40.160 To try and look like a fake picture of yourself 0:15:40.200 --> 0:15:43.960 would be terrible. With all of the filters we have 0:15:44.080 --> 0:15:47.040 now and these apps, you can put your pictures through 0:15:47.440 --> 0:15:49.800 so many if you really start looking at Instagram and Bibe. 0:15:49.840 --> 0:15:51.400 I don't know if guys, but when you zoom in 0:15:51.480 --> 0:15:55.320 you can tell when women have airbrushed their wrinkles put 0:15:55.320 --> 0:15:59.720 a filter on the picture to make them look dull, 0:15:59.840 --> 0:16:03.160 light like perfect. Right, So now you're seeing these pictures 0:16:03.160 --> 0:16:05.680 of yourself. You're seeing these pictures of other people, maybe 0:16:05.720 --> 0:16:08.080 your friends, maybe people who are of your same age, 0:16:08.200 --> 0:16:11.280 and they look phenomenal, like they have no wrinkles. Then 0:16:11.320 --> 0:16:13.160 you look at yourself in the mirror with bad lighting 0:16:13.200 --> 0:16:14.800 and you think, I'm an old hag. 0:16:15.040 --> 0:16:18.160 I've got to do something about this. That is real. 0:16:18.680 --> 0:16:20.680 You are comparing yourself. 0:16:20.200 --> 0:16:22.560 To a fake picture of other people or a fake 0:16:22.600 --> 0:16:25.760 picture of yourself, and it's a standard you cannot meet, 0:16:26.000 --> 0:16:26.800 and it's depressing. 0:16:26.960 --> 0:16:29.640 It makes sense, but that's what everybody's doing every day. 0:16:29.680 --> 0:16:31.240 It's the first thing people do when they wake up 0:16:31.240 --> 0:16:32.760 in the morning. They pick up the phone and see 0:16:32.760 --> 0:16:35.360 what their competitor is doing and how wonderful their life is. 0:16:35.600 --> 0:16:37.480 And I say competitor, that could be somebody in off 0:16:37.560 --> 0:16:39.720 is that could be a friend. You're competing with that 0:16:39.720 --> 0:16:42.480 that thing. So yet it's I hear you don't. Don't 0:16:42.520 --> 0:16:44.560 we all understand now? Aren't we all smart enough to 0:16:44.640 --> 0:16:47.240 understand what you just said? But we're not strong enough 0:16:47.280 --> 0:16:47.960 to stop doing it? 0:16:48.080 --> 0:16:50.640 Yes, I think that's a really good way to put it. Yes, 0:16:50.800 --> 0:16:55.800 And Helen also offered something that she learned. She said 0:16:55.840 --> 0:16:58.800 playing different characters. This is really interesting as an actress, 0:16:58.920 --> 0:17:01.680 you'd think, okay, you're an act or. I even wondered, 0:17:01.760 --> 0:17:04.160 you know, obviously your looks are a huge part of 0:17:04.200 --> 0:17:06.639 you getting cast and whether or not you get a 0:17:06.640 --> 0:17:09.960 certain type of role. But she said she always appreciated 0:17:09.960 --> 0:17:12.800 that she was somebody who could play different characters because 0:17:12.800 --> 0:17:17.000 it impacted her view on her own beauty. She said, Inevitably, 0:17:17.080 --> 0:17:19.720 you can't be rigid in those contacts. You can't say 0:17:19.720 --> 0:17:21.679 to the makeup person, oh, no, I have to have 0:17:21.720 --> 0:17:24.760 false eyelashes, or I have to have this particular lip 0:17:24.800 --> 0:17:27.679 color because without it, all die if I don't have it. 0:17:27.840 --> 0:17:30.199 She's like, no, I have to give myself over to 0:17:30.400 --> 0:17:33.800 very extreme changes. And that fed through my life as well. 0:17:34.320 --> 0:17:37.359 So I thought that was interesting. You know, people, you know, 0:17:37.400 --> 0:17:39.640 I've even said, and look, we all do our own thing. 0:17:39.840 --> 0:17:42.639 Who wears false eyelashes to the beach, a lot of people, 0:17:42.960 --> 0:17:46.199 who wears heavy makeup playing a sweaty basketball game, A 0:17:46.240 --> 0:17:47.119 lot of women. 0:17:47.040 --> 0:17:48.520 Because it makes them feel good. 0:17:48.800 --> 0:17:50.560 But I thought it was an interesting thing to have 0:17:50.600 --> 0:17:54.119 to see yourself as a different character, not you. You 0:17:54.200 --> 0:17:57.000 have to kind of submit to just what your face 0:17:57.040 --> 0:17:57.920 looks like without. 0:17:57.720 --> 0:17:58.359 All that stuff. 0:17:58.480 --> 0:18:00.720 Yeah, you have to give your appearance over to somebody else. 0:18:00.760 --> 0:18:02.919 You have to totally submit, and nobody does that day 0:18:02.960 --> 0:18:05.320 and day out. Nobody gets the opportunity to so give 0:18:05.359 --> 0:18:07.439 her and this she has to go be presented in 0:18:07.480 --> 0:18:09.480 front of millions with that look. 0:18:09.800 --> 0:18:12.040 Oh this woman. And I've read up some some of. 0:18:12.000 --> 0:18:14.880 Her history over the past, but she is different, and 0:18:15.040 --> 0:18:18.920 I just I adore this lady for how she's in 0:18:18.960 --> 0:18:21.520 her career and her achievements. And one of the favorite 0:18:21.520 --> 0:18:23.520 things I've ever seen her do was a Super Bowl commercial. 0:18:23.800 --> 0:18:26.680 Remember about the she was telling drink responsibly, you idiots, 0:18:26.680 --> 0:18:29.359 like she was. She was just who was there? It 0:18:29.400 --> 0:18:30.800 might have been Ah, I want to say it was 0:18:30.840 --> 0:18:33.560 Bud Wiser, but I just how she goes about it. 0:18:33.560 --> 0:18:35.320 And one of the biggest things I hate, I hate, 0:18:35.320 --> 0:18:38.280 I hate, I missed she came by GMA once her 0:18:38.480 --> 0:18:42.440 name was on the door. I was stalking and lurking 0:18:42.520 --> 0:18:43.880 all morning trying to and I never got. 0:18:43.840 --> 0:18:44.600 A chance to meet her. 0:18:44.880 --> 0:18:45.880 I've never met her either. 0:18:46.640 --> 0:18:48.639 I did the same with Angela Bassett at GMA, but 0:18:48.800 --> 0:18:49.480 that what worked out. 0:18:49.560 --> 0:18:50.199 You did meet her. 0:18:50.280 --> 0:18:51.200 I am creepy, as Helle. 0:18:51.280 --> 0:18:54.280 Apparently you just started the podcast saying, well, that sounded creepy. 0:18:54.440 --> 0:18:56.120 I'm not creepy. Now you're like, I'm creepy as hell. 0:18:56.200 --> 0:18:59.520 I absolutely I stalked her and never I've never got 0:18:59.520 --> 0:19:02.120 a chance to meet. I never did, but anyway, sees 0:19:02.240 --> 0:19:04.440