1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,600 Speaker 1: Thanks for listening to the Best of the Herd podcast. 2 00:00:02,759 --> 00:00:05,080 Speaker 1: Be sure to catch us live every weekday on Fox 3 00:00:05,120 --> 00:00:08,319 Speaker 1: Sports Radio in noon to three Eastern nine am to 4 00:00:08,400 --> 00:00:11,440 Speaker 1: noon Pacific. Find your local station for The Herd at 5 00:00:11,440 --> 00:00:14,680 Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio dot com, or stream us live every 6 00:00:14,760 --> 00:00:17,799 Speaker 1: day on the iHeartRadio app by searching Fox Sports Radio 7 00:00:17,960 --> 00:00:18,720 Speaker 1: or FSR. 8 00:00:19,920 --> 00:00:22,680 Speaker 2: This is the Best of the Herd with Colin cowher 9 00:00:23,040 --> 00:00:27,480 Speaker 2: on Fox Sports Radio. 10 00:00:28,680 --> 00:00:31,840 Speaker 3: Here we go our number one. 11 00:00:32,200 --> 00:00:37,239 Speaker 1: I'm not sure we can get all this show into 12 00:00:37,440 --> 00:00:42,200 Speaker 1: the next three hours. We are live, we are in Chicago, 13 00:00:42,600 --> 00:00:46,760 Speaker 1: and it is the Herd one hour from now. Where 14 00:00:46,760 --> 00:00:51,519 Speaker 1: Colin was right, where Colin was wrong. I don't think 15 00:00:51,520 --> 00:00:56,680 Speaker 1: we should waste any time. Everybody's worst nightmare is now official. 16 00:00:57,720 --> 00:01:02,680 Speaker 1: The Kansasity Chiefs once again are the best team in 17 00:01:02,760 --> 00:01:07,800 Speaker 1: professional football. First three weeks, Mahomes was wobbly. They were 18 00:01:07,840 --> 00:01:11,759 Speaker 1: averaging twenty points a game, and in their last three 19 00:01:11,800 --> 00:01:16,080 Speaker 1: games they are now averaging thirty two points. Along with 20 00:01:16,200 --> 00:01:21,000 Speaker 1: that defense and along with those special teams. Sorry NFL, 21 00:01:21,520 --> 00:01:25,680 Speaker 1: they did it again. Kansas City. Only Andy Reid and 22 00:01:25,840 --> 00:01:29,720 Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes. They're the only people in this league that 23 00:01:29,840 --> 00:01:33,080 Speaker 1: can take number two and number three wide receivers. They 24 00:01:33,080 --> 00:01:38,039 Speaker 1: can take Hollywood Brown and Jude ju Smith Schuster and 25 00:01:38,240 --> 00:01:43,040 Speaker 1: backup left tackles and okay, running backs and get into 26 00:01:43,080 --> 00:01:47,040 Speaker 1: the thirties. Xavier Worthy with any other team, would he 27 00:01:47,080 --> 00:01:49,919 Speaker 1: be this good? All they do is make it work. 28 00:01:50,280 --> 00:01:53,000 Speaker 1: Andy Reid is the great chef, He's the Gordon Ramsey. 29 00:01:53,040 --> 00:01:56,520 Speaker 1: Everything in the kitchen has a role. Let's just keep tinkering. 30 00:01:57,080 --> 00:02:00,360 Speaker 1: Let's keep figuring out a way to make everything work. 31 00:02:00,640 --> 00:02:03,760 Speaker 1: Put it into our ecosystem, and let's make it flourish. 32 00:02:04,120 --> 00:02:06,440 Speaker 1: By the way, this is what Kansas City does every year. 33 00:02:07,120 --> 00:02:10,239 Speaker 1: When you get into these big games. They play differently. 34 00:02:11,080 --> 00:02:17,800 Speaker 1: No penalties, no turnovers, one punt. Whine all you want 35 00:02:17,800 --> 00:02:21,519 Speaker 1: about the penalties. Well coached teams Belichick and Brady that 36 00:02:21,680 --> 00:02:24,280 Speaker 1: is for years they don't turn it over, and they 37 00:02:24,280 --> 00:02:27,960 Speaker 1: don't get penalized, and they don't pump much. The NFL 38 00:02:28,040 --> 00:02:32,240 Speaker 1: seasons are incredibly long. You can't overreact to zero to 39 00:02:32,240 --> 00:02:36,040 Speaker 1: two or three and three again. Get people healthy, make 40 00:02:36,120 --> 00:02:38,400 Speaker 1: everybody count in the kitchen. Three weeks ago, when they 41 00:02:38,400 --> 00:02:44,639 Speaker 1: beat Baltimore, everybody said, well the Ravens are beat up. Yeah, 42 00:02:44,800 --> 00:02:48,240 Speaker 1: right now, so is Tampa, so is San Francisco. A 43 00:02:48,280 --> 00:02:51,519 Speaker 1: lot of teams in the NFL are beat up. Doesn't 44 00:02:51,560 --> 00:02:56,040 Speaker 1: matter with this defense, this play calling, people get distracted. 45 00:02:56,080 --> 00:03:00,440 Speaker 1: The NBA is about talent and appeasing the star fellas, 46 00:03:00,440 --> 00:03:04,560 Speaker 1: about the O line, the defensive coordinator, about the entire system, 47 00:03:04,600 --> 00:03:07,079 Speaker 1: and it's about the culture. This is a locker room 48 00:03:07,080 --> 00:03:10,400 Speaker 1: of fifty three guys, not five that really really truly matter. 49 00:03:10,880 --> 00:03:14,880 Speaker 1: And here's Kansas City. They keep tweaking. Add a little salt, 50 00:03:15,240 --> 00:03:18,920 Speaker 1: make everything in the kitchen work. Prime example last night 51 00:03:18,960 --> 00:03:21,760 Speaker 1: when they're offensive line. The first couple of weeks offensive 52 00:03:21,800 --> 00:03:24,720 Speaker 1: line it was, it was messy, It was not very good. 53 00:03:24,760 --> 00:03:25,639 Speaker 3: They had no running game. 54 00:03:25,680 --> 00:03:30,040 Speaker 1: O line was bad last night despite the Detroit Lions 55 00:03:30,840 --> 00:03:34,600 Speaker 1: having a ten minute opening drive, Kansas City one time 56 00:03:34,600 --> 00:03:37,320 Speaker 1: of possession with this offensive line that was a bit 57 00:03:37,400 --> 00:03:40,280 Speaker 1: chaotic and a bit messy five weeks ago. And I 58 00:03:40,320 --> 00:03:42,240 Speaker 1: know you don't want to hear it, but Rashi Rice 59 00:03:42,360 --> 00:03:46,120 Speaker 1: is coming back. The receiving corps now, all right? Were 60 00:03:46,200 --> 00:03:49,960 Speaker 1: these a two juju Smith? Schuster's a three Hollywood Brown 61 00:03:50,000 --> 00:03:53,200 Speaker 1: as a gadget four? Oh that's a And with Mahomes 62 00:03:53,200 --> 00:03:57,119 Speaker 1: and Reid pulling the levers, that is a way above 63 00:03:57,480 --> 00:04:01,680 Speaker 1: average receiving court Travis Kelsey again in a big spot. 64 00:04:02,080 --> 00:04:05,960 Speaker 1: He arrives. So this is what Kansas City does. First 65 00:04:05,960 --> 00:04:11,280 Speaker 1: three weeks, very choppy. Last three games thirty two a game. 66 00:04:11,520 --> 00:04:14,440 Speaker 1: And Detroit's a really good team, but they were so 67 00:04:14,680 --> 00:04:18,760 Speaker 1: focused last night. Here's Patrick Mahomes on being the youngest 68 00:04:18,839 --> 00:04:21,320 Speaker 1: quarterback to ever get to three hundred touchdown passes. 69 00:04:22,320 --> 00:04:24,599 Speaker 4: It's extremely cool. I mean, I've been blessed. I always 70 00:04:24,600 --> 00:04:25,919 Speaker 4: say it, and I mean it like I've been blessed, 71 00:04:25,960 --> 00:04:28,520 Speaker 4: Like I drafted here in Kansas City, a great community, 72 00:04:28,560 --> 00:04:31,359 Speaker 4: great ownership, and then getting one of the best football 73 00:04:31,400 --> 00:04:33,480 Speaker 4: coaches of all time and some of the greatest players 74 00:04:33,480 --> 00:04:35,560 Speaker 4: of all time around me. And so it makes my 75 00:04:35,640 --> 00:04:37,640 Speaker 4: job a lot easier when I'm going to throw to 76 00:04:37,720 --> 00:04:40,480 Speaker 4: some great ones. And let's keep let's continue it, let's 77 00:04:40,480 --> 00:04:42,440 Speaker 4: have some fun, and we've got a long career ahead 78 00:04:42,440 --> 00:04:43,400 Speaker 4: and we'll see how we can get to. 79 00:04:44,360 --> 00:04:46,960 Speaker 1: That's the best team in the NFL right now, Kansas 80 00:04:46,960 --> 00:04:52,719 Speaker 1: City Chiefs, one punt, no turnovers, no penalties, dominating an 81 00:04:52,760 --> 00:04:56,640 Speaker 1: excellent Detroit Lions team. Okay, so the last couple of weeks, 82 00:04:56,680 --> 00:04:59,440 Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield has had to go on the road out 83 00:04:59,440 --> 00:05:03,480 Speaker 1: West se San Francisco. Good teams, and in both games, 84 00:05:03,720 --> 00:05:05,839 Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield was the difference. 85 00:05:06,560 --> 00:05:07,480 Speaker 3: He's missing Mike. 86 00:05:07,360 --> 00:05:12,440 Speaker 1: Evans and Chris Godwin and Bucky Irving a Mecca Buca 87 00:05:12,480 --> 00:05:16,440 Speaker 1: got hurt in the game, Baker willed his team to 88 00:05:16,480 --> 00:05:19,520 Speaker 1: a w. As you guys all know, this league is 89 00:05:19,520 --> 00:05:23,200 Speaker 1: about toughness and resilience. Don't be a victim. Deal with it. 90 00:05:23,920 --> 00:05:25,960 Speaker 1: Baker's not the biggest, He's only six to one. 91 00:05:26,040 --> 00:05:26,840 Speaker 3: He's not the. 92 00:05:26,720 --> 00:05:30,360 Speaker 1: Most athletic, but his fight picking up that first down 93 00:05:30,400 --> 00:05:33,080 Speaker 1: on the run is a plus plus. The dude was 94 00:05:33,080 --> 00:05:37,479 Speaker 1: missing his top four receivers. Instead, he needed Tez Johnson 95 00:05:37,839 --> 00:05:40,680 Speaker 1: pack of a catch and Cameron Johnson, who was an 96 00:05:40,800 --> 00:05:45,720 Speaker 1: undrafted D two athlete that was his receiving corps and 97 00:05:45,839 --> 00:05:51,159 Speaker 1: both caught their first career NFL touchdowns. Baker Mayfield a 98 00:05:51,160 --> 00:05:53,640 Speaker 1: lot of these quarterbacks, I don't even need to name them. 99 00:05:53,920 --> 00:06:00,359 Speaker 1: They get coordinators fired, Baker Mayfield's last two coordinators, he 100 00:06:00,440 --> 00:06:03,640 Speaker 1: got head coaching jobs. And again, there's a quality that 101 00:06:03,720 --> 00:06:06,760 Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield has that I wish everybody in America had. 102 00:06:07,560 --> 00:06:12,000 Speaker 1: He just not everything has to be perfect. He never 103 00:06:12,080 --> 00:06:15,560 Speaker 1: plays the victim. It's like, what do I gotta work with? 104 00:06:15,760 --> 00:06:20,279 Speaker 1: All right, let's go that. He's never pointing fingers. Baker's like, 105 00:06:20,400 --> 00:06:23,760 Speaker 1: get on my back. This is this is a guy pulling. 106 00:06:25,720 --> 00:06:29,760 Speaker 1: He's pulling a team right now. They are a mess. Offensively, 107 00:06:30,080 --> 00:06:34,120 Speaker 1: they are falling out. He's using D two receivers and 108 00:06:34,240 --> 00:06:37,200 Speaker 1: he's beating Seattle in Seattle. You see what Seattle did 109 00:06:37,240 --> 00:06:39,160 Speaker 1: on the road yesterday. You see what Seattle did. Are 110 00:06:39,160 --> 00:06:43,159 Speaker 1: the Steelers this year? He's beating San Francisco. All I hear, well, 111 00:06:43,160 --> 00:06:46,200 Speaker 1: brock perdies, guys are injured. Baker's like, yeah, what evs. 112 00:06:46,560 --> 00:06:50,440 Speaker 1: Let's go. I don't think right now that Tampa Bay 113 00:06:50,520 --> 00:06:52,479 Speaker 1: roster because I think of the second best team in 114 00:06:52,480 --> 00:06:54,960 Speaker 1: the NFL to Kansas City. But their rosters so beat up. 115 00:06:55,000 --> 00:06:58,120 Speaker 1: It's not a top ten roster. They're missing great players. 116 00:06:59,080 --> 00:07:03,159 Speaker 1: Pedal to the metal, head down. Don't point fingers. Tampa's 117 00:07:03,200 --> 00:07:07,479 Speaker 1: now five and one big win after big win with 118 00:07:07,720 --> 00:07:13,840 Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield. His resilience is completely contagious and redeemable. And 119 00:07:13,920 --> 00:07:16,320 Speaker 1: here he was after another w on the road. 120 00:07:17,480 --> 00:07:20,040 Speaker 5: I truly genuinely trust the guys that are in there. 121 00:07:20,360 --> 00:07:22,720 Speaker 5: They're ready. We talked throughout the week guys are on 122 00:07:22,720 --> 00:07:26,239 Speaker 5: the same page. And that's real. I trust these guys, 123 00:07:27,000 --> 00:07:28,720 Speaker 5: even though some of them might not have played a 124 00:07:28,720 --> 00:07:30,680 Speaker 5: whole lot of ball. But if we're on the same page, 125 00:07:30,720 --> 00:07:32,239 Speaker 5: good things happen. You don't have to have the perfect 126 00:07:32,240 --> 00:07:33,920 Speaker 5: play when all your guys are fighting for each other 127 00:07:34,120 --> 00:07:36,200 Speaker 5: and are on the same page. And that's an example 128 00:07:36,240 --> 00:07:38,280 Speaker 5: of that. Defense played great special teams as well, And 129 00:07:38,320 --> 00:07:40,160 Speaker 5: so that's complimentary football. 130 00:07:40,560 --> 00:07:41,000 Speaker 3: All right. 131 00:07:41,160 --> 00:07:44,520 Speaker 1: Right now, Baker Mayfield, I think he's got everybody's vote 132 00:07:44,560 --> 00:07:45,920 Speaker 1: as the most valuable player. 133 00:07:46,000 --> 00:07:48,400 Speaker 3: To do it with that beleaguer roster. 134 00:07:48,560 --> 00:07:52,720 Speaker 1: On the road, beating good teams, beating really good defensive 135 00:07:52,800 --> 00:07:56,960 Speaker 1: minds or defensive coordinators. Feel terrible for San Francisco. Fred 136 00:07:57,000 --> 00:07:59,960 Speaker 1: Warner is now injured. The whole team is falling up 137 00:08:00,000 --> 00:08:03,440 Speaker 1: at physically all their stars. But that's you know, we 138 00:08:03,520 --> 00:08:06,120 Speaker 1: often asked ourselves, you know, what's a franchise quarterback? What's 139 00:08:06,120 --> 00:08:10,320 Speaker 1: the difference? The difference is when things aren't right. I 140 00:08:10,360 --> 00:08:12,560 Speaker 1: hear this all the time. Well, I mean, yeah, you'll 141 00:08:12,560 --> 00:08:15,160 Speaker 1: hear it from you know, for years and years. Well, 142 00:08:15,240 --> 00:08:19,560 Speaker 1: you know, we don't have Caleb's missing this, or Jackson 143 00:08:19,640 --> 00:08:22,560 Speaker 1: Dart was missing that, Baker's missing everything. 144 00:08:23,280 --> 00:08:24,040 Speaker 3: He's on the road. 145 00:08:24,600 --> 00:08:28,120 Speaker 1: Seattle and San Francisco were good, and he's willing his 146 00:08:28,120 --> 00:08:28,720 Speaker 1: team to win. 147 00:08:29,080 --> 00:08:31,000 Speaker 3: He may not be the best athlete. 148 00:08:30,560 --> 00:08:33,800 Speaker 1: But on that one run, he looked like it. That's 149 00:08:34,000 --> 00:08:36,920 Speaker 1: what a franchise quarterback is. You don't have your best 150 00:08:36,960 --> 00:08:40,080 Speaker 1: running back, you don't have your top three wide receivers, 151 00:08:40,440 --> 00:08:43,560 Speaker 1: you got a defensive coach, so it's your offense. That's 152 00:08:43,600 --> 00:08:46,319 Speaker 1: what an MVP looks like. That's what a franchise quarterback 153 00:08:46,360 --> 00:08:48,559 Speaker 1: looks like. It took Baker a while to get there 154 00:08:48,600 --> 00:08:51,920 Speaker 1: from Cleveland and Carolina and Los Angeles. Took him a 155 00:08:51,960 --> 00:08:55,560 Speaker 1: while to get there. Who cares some careers, You gotta 156 00:08:55,640 --> 00:08:58,960 Speaker 1: let him bake. But fantastic performance. 157 00:08:59,679 --> 00:09:00,319 Speaker 6: Yeah, was great. 158 00:09:00,400 --> 00:09:03,679 Speaker 1: J Mac gotta say this, by the way, that was 159 00:09:03,800 --> 00:09:05,760 Speaker 1: that was in Tampa? Was it in Tampa? Samford said, 160 00:09:05,800 --> 00:09:07,319 Speaker 1: I watched so many damn game yesterday. Yeah, I was 161 00:09:07,360 --> 00:09:09,400 Speaker 1: in Tampa, Tay My bad, My bad on that folks, 162 00:09:09,440 --> 00:09:11,640 Speaker 1: My bad. That wasn't it was in Tampa? 163 00:09:11,760 --> 00:09:12,240 Speaker 2: I got. 164 00:09:12,480 --> 00:09:15,800 Speaker 1: I watched thirteen games yesterday and nine the day before. 165 00:09:15,880 --> 00:09:16,400 Speaker 3: I'm lost. 166 00:09:17,520 --> 00:09:19,600 Speaker 1: But I mean, the truth of the matter is Saul 167 00:09:19,720 --> 00:09:23,120 Speaker 1: is a great defensive coordinator to go to Seattle. You're 168 00:09:23,160 --> 00:09:25,600 Speaker 1: facing McDonald. I mean, look what he did the Trevor 169 00:09:25,640 --> 00:09:29,640 Speaker 1: Lawrence yesterday. You're talking about facing the best coordinators, smart, 170 00:09:29,679 --> 00:09:32,960 Speaker 1: young defensive guys, pass rushes, and for him to go 171 00:09:33,000 --> 00:09:34,960 Speaker 1: out there and pull that stuff is unbelievable. 172 00:09:35,040 --> 00:09:37,080 Speaker 7: I mean, I think I saw stat after Fred Warner 173 00:09:37,120 --> 00:09:40,080 Speaker 7: went out Colin the Bucks average like seven point four 174 00:09:40,200 --> 00:09:43,559 Speaker 7: yards per place, something insane. Without Warner, the Niners have nothing, 175 00:09:43,600 --> 00:09:46,559 Speaker 7: no Bosa, no Warner. So I'm pumping the brakes on Baker. 176 00:09:46,600 --> 00:09:49,840 Speaker 7: He was fantastic again yesterday. Oh my god, he's phenomenal. 177 00:09:49,960 --> 00:09:51,920 Speaker 7: You could argue he's been the best quarterback in the 178 00:09:52,000 --> 00:09:52,720 Speaker 7: NFL this season. 179 00:09:52,840 --> 00:09:54,600 Speaker 1: No, I don't even I don't even think. I think 180 00:09:54,640 --> 00:09:57,320 Speaker 1: you have to. You have to consider everything. You have 181 00:09:57,400 --> 00:09:59,320 Speaker 1: to consider it. You got to consider what you have. 182 00:10:00,559 --> 00:10:03,080 Speaker 1: I mean, the Seattle winds shocked us. I think you 183 00:10:03,160 --> 00:10:04,840 Speaker 1: and I thought it was our second favorite bet of 184 00:10:04,840 --> 00:10:05,240 Speaker 1: the weekend. 185 00:10:05,880 --> 00:10:07,680 Speaker 3: By the way, how'd you I went four oh yesterday? 186 00:10:07,679 --> 00:10:10,040 Speaker 3: How'd you do? Two and two? Waiting on one more tonight? 187 00:10:10,520 --> 00:10:13,960 Speaker 1: All right, I've got Washington tonight at home over Chicago. 188 00:10:14,120 --> 00:10:17,320 Speaker 1: Bears don't travel particularly well. I'm not sure if you 189 00:10:17,400 --> 00:10:17,920 Speaker 1: caught this to. 190 00:10:18,000 --> 00:10:22,280 Speaker 3: Mariners, your guy cal Rally. 191 00:10:23,320 --> 00:10:25,600 Speaker 1: Well, all right, we've got a lot to talk about. 192 00:10:25,880 --> 00:10:32,200 Speaker 1: Speaking of quarterback play, Justin Herbert, I thought that the 193 00:10:32,280 --> 00:10:34,800 Speaker 1: Baker run may have been the play of the day. 194 00:10:35,320 --> 00:10:40,120 Speaker 1: How about the Justin Herbert play to get the ball 195 00:10:40,120 --> 00:10:41,839 Speaker 1: to Lad mcconkee when we come back. 196 00:10:42,559 --> 00:10:45,079 Speaker 3: That is all time stuff. We talk about this all 197 00:10:45,080 --> 00:10:45,400 Speaker 3: the time. 198 00:10:45,520 --> 00:10:48,720 Speaker 1: I like traits with quarterbacks, like big strong guys over 199 00:10:48,760 --> 00:10:49,440 Speaker 1: small guys. 200 00:10:49,960 --> 00:10:51,520 Speaker 3: And by the way, Baker's not the. 201 00:10:51,440 --> 00:10:55,319 Speaker 1: Biggest guy, but he makes he plays bigger than himself, right, 202 00:10:55,360 --> 00:10:58,679 Speaker 1: bigger than his size. What Justin Herbert did yesterday in 203 00:10:58,760 --> 00:11:01,880 Speaker 1: one play, I looked at it this morning on social media, 204 00:11:02,480 --> 00:11:05,440 Speaker 1: switching hands during the play. We'll get to that. Plus 205 00:11:05,480 --> 00:11:12,560 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers only compliments. Dodgers are playing tonight. We have 206 00:11:12,720 --> 00:11:15,439 Speaker 1: got ourselves this next week, the next four or five 207 00:11:15,520 --> 00:11:18,120 Speaker 1: days are as good as America gets for sports. 208 00:11:18,760 --> 00:11:21,240 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, James Franklin got fired. I don't know what 209 00:11:21,280 --> 00:11:21,800 Speaker 3: to do with that. 210 00:11:21,920 --> 00:11:24,520 Speaker 2: Be sure to catch live editions of The Herd weekdays 211 00:11:24,520 --> 00:11:28,040 Speaker 2: and Noone eastern non am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio 212 00:11:28,360 --> 00:11:31,040 Speaker 2: FS one and the iHeartRadio app HI. 213 00:11:31,200 --> 00:11:33,160 Speaker 8: This is Jay I'm the producer of the Paula and 214 00:11:33,200 --> 00:11:35,800 Speaker 8: Tony Fusco Show. Usually in these promos they asked you 215 00:11:35,880 --> 00:11:37,599 Speaker 8: to listen to the show. I'm here to ask you 216 00:11:37,800 --> 00:11:40,280 Speaker 8: please don't listen to the show. The hosts are two 217 00:11:40,440 --> 00:11:43,480 Speaker 8: absolute morons who have the dumbest takes on sports, imagicable. 218 00:11:43,640 --> 00:11:45,520 Speaker 8: Don't listen to the show so it can get camped. 219 00:11:46,040 --> 00:11:47,720 Speaker 6: What the hell are you doing in our studio? 220 00:11:47,880 --> 00:11:48,800 Speaker 3: Get him, paul. 221 00:11:52,040 --> 00:11:54,800 Speaker 6: Ignore that fool. Listen to the Pauline Tony Fusco Show 222 00:11:54,840 --> 00:11:57,480 Speaker 6: on the iHeartRadio app or wherever you get your podcast. 223 00:11:57,600 --> 00:11:58,440 Speaker 2: He's still moving. 224 00:12:00,240 --> 00:12:02,280 Speaker 3: Here we go. Colin right, Colin wrong. 225 00:12:02,320 --> 00:12:05,240 Speaker 1: On a Monday where Colin was right, Well, when the 226 00:12:05,320 --> 00:12:07,920 Speaker 1: Eagles started four to oh, I said they got a 227 00:12:08,000 --> 00:12:11,080 Speaker 1: coaching issue. You can't tell me they're beat up and injured. 228 00:12:11,240 --> 00:12:13,640 Speaker 1: A lot of teams are beat up an injured. They 229 00:12:13,679 --> 00:12:16,599 Speaker 1: had a player's only meeting, and AJ Brown sort of 230 00:12:16,679 --> 00:12:17,160 Speaker 1: denied it. 231 00:12:17,640 --> 00:12:19,120 Speaker 3: I just don't. 232 00:12:19,440 --> 00:12:23,079 Speaker 1: I don't buy the Philadelphia Eagles. They are They're in 233 00:12:23,240 --> 00:12:26,520 Speaker 1: trouble right now. They're twenty eighth in yards per rush, 234 00:12:27,240 --> 00:12:30,200 Speaker 1: twenty fifth in the NFL in total offense. 235 00:12:30,679 --> 00:12:32,960 Speaker 3: Even when they were winning, I said this isn't going 236 00:12:33,000 --> 00:12:33,439 Speaker 3: to last. 237 00:12:34,000 --> 00:12:36,520 Speaker 1: This is the drip, drip, drip, And last week we 238 00:12:36,679 --> 00:12:43,319 Speaker 1: saw the faucet burst where Colin was wrong firing James Franklin. 239 00:12:43,800 --> 00:12:45,719 Speaker 3: I don't know. I don't get it. 240 00:12:46,040 --> 00:12:51,599 Speaker 1: Apparently insiders at Penn State are saying it was untenable. 241 00:12:52,600 --> 00:12:55,360 Speaker 1: But I will tell you he'd won ten plus games 242 00:12:55,400 --> 00:12:58,920 Speaker 1: in three straight seasons. Are you telling if if he 243 00:12:59,040 --> 00:13:01,559 Speaker 1: beats UCLA at the end of the game, you'd keep him. 244 00:13:02,160 --> 00:13:07,360 Speaker 1: It feels very reactionary to me. Again, they're a playaway 245 00:13:07,400 --> 00:13:09,720 Speaker 1: from beaten notre name last year, what did they finish 246 00:13:10,480 --> 00:13:13,360 Speaker 1: fifth in the country. But this is the world we 247 00:13:13,480 --> 00:13:16,840 Speaker 1: live in. Get rid of the coach if there's any questions. 248 00:13:17,120 --> 00:13:20,000 Speaker 1: And I just don't like the way it looks I 249 00:13:20,200 --> 00:13:23,360 Speaker 1: was wrong. I would have never guessed this where Colin 250 00:13:23,600 --> 00:13:29,679 Speaker 1: was right. To Pittsburgh, Oh, MVP Baker Mayfield. Yeah, a 251 00:13:29,760 --> 00:13:32,600 Speaker 1: couple of weeks ago I said, I think he's MVP. 252 00:13:33,480 --> 00:13:36,800 Speaker 1: He's never been this good. And again, players get better, 253 00:13:36,960 --> 00:13:40,080 Speaker 1: players get worse, they regress. Look what's happen to Justin Field. 254 00:13:40,520 --> 00:13:41,640 Speaker 1: Baker is better now. 255 00:13:42,280 --> 00:13:44,480 Speaker 3: He was good early. He didn't play with his confidence. 256 00:13:44,880 --> 00:13:46,240 Speaker 3: He's got nothing to work with. 257 00:13:46,440 --> 00:13:51,800 Speaker 1: Bucky Irby, Chris Godwin, Mike Evans, Abuca got hurt. I said, 258 00:13:51,800 --> 00:13:54,079 Speaker 1: two or three weeks ago, let's not get ourselves here. 259 00:13:54,200 --> 00:13:57,479 Speaker 1: This is what an MVP looks like. And I said, Cleveland, 260 00:13:58,040 --> 00:14:00,599 Speaker 1: it was a poor fit. It's a bitter fit and 261 00:14:00,679 --> 00:14:03,720 Speaker 1: an angry media poking them in the rips. Tampa's Chill, 262 00:14:04,280 --> 00:14:09,040 Speaker 1: Todd Bowles, high IQ high EQ opening all the doors 263 00:14:09,120 --> 00:14:13,000 Speaker 1: for him every weekend more and more. Baker's the MVP 264 00:14:13,160 --> 00:14:13,720 Speaker 1: of this league. 265 00:14:14,320 --> 00:14:16,199 Speaker 2: Where Colin was wrong? 266 00:14:16,520 --> 00:14:20,200 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers and the Steelers four and one? Are they 267 00:14:20,240 --> 00:14:22,760 Speaker 1: going to wrap this division up in four to five weeks? 268 00:14:24,240 --> 00:14:27,240 Speaker 1: Aaron right now, smartly is getting rid of the ball 269 00:14:28,880 --> 00:14:31,600 Speaker 1: from snap to getting rid of the ball faster than 270 00:14:31,640 --> 00:14:33,960 Speaker 1: he has in his entire career. And I got to 271 00:14:34,000 --> 00:14:36,320 Speaker 1: tell you, with the size of his targets in Pittsburgh, 272 00:14:36,320 --> 00:14:37,120 Speaker 1: I think it's smart. 273 00:14:37,960 --> 00:14:39,760 Speaker 3: There's no wow plays. 274 00:14:39,800 --> 00:14:43,600 Speaker 1: He's not doing that. He's doing the back shoulder. He's accurate. 275 00:14:43,880 --> 00:14:48,280 Speaker 1: He's completing seventy three percent. This is an offense for 276 00:14:48,360 --> 00:14:50,320 Speaker 1: the last seven years, and this is not the best 277 00:14:50,400 --> 00:14:53,360 Speaker 1: aeron This is old, Aaron. This is an offense in 278 00:14:53,440 --> 00:14:55,600 Speaker 1: the last three weeks. He's got a one to twelve 279 00:14:55,640 --> 00:14:59,080 Speaker 1: passer rating. Now I know he's he's got an advantage. 280 00:14:59,120 --> 00:15:02,160 Speaker 1: That defense is hoppling up backup quarterbacks, but it looks 281 00:15:02,200 --> 00:15:06,240 Speaker 1: good to me. Where Colin was right, I said, New England, 282 00:15:06,960 --> 00:15:11,160 Speaker 1: watch out. They're gonna be the double the win total 283 00:15:11,240 --> 00:15:13,880 Speaker 1: team in the NFL. This will be my fourth year 284 00:15:13,920 --> 00:15:17,080 Speaker 1: in a row. If I hit this after the Raiders loss, 285 00:15:17,160 --> 00:15:20,600 Speaker 1: I said, slow down between free agents and draft picks. 286 00:15:20,640 --> 00:15:24,000 Speaker 1: They're they're starting like a dozen new guys. Don't freak out. 287 00:15:24,000 --> 00:15:27,080 Speaker 1: When they lost to Pittsburgh. Guy said, let it play out. 288 00:15:27,560 --> 00:15:32,040 Speaker 1: No team is starting more new bodies. Vrabel's brilliant, Guy, 289 00:15:32,720 --> 00:15:35,400 Speaker 1: Drake May's really good. And this this is one of 290 00:15:35,440 --> 00:15:39,800 Speaker 1: those things where not all opening losses are the same. 291 00:15:39,880 --> 00:15:42,200 Speaker 1: Detroit's obviously a good team. They got housed in the 292 00:15:42,240 --> 00:15:44,760 Speaker 1: first game. New England lost to the Raiders. I kept saying, 293 00:15:45,200 --> 00:15:48,800 Speaker 1: don't worry, they'll figure away. They're building a culture. 294 00:15:48,800 --> 00:15:49,400 Speaker 3: And we were right. 295 00:15:50,000 --> 00:15:51,840 Speaker 2: Where Colin was wrong. 296 00:15:52,240 --> 00:15:55,040 Speaker 1: I had Dante more as the number one pick last week. 297 00:15:56,080 --> 00:15:58,640 Speaker 1: He got out played by Fernando Mendoza and it wasn't 298 00:15:58,680 --> 00:16:02,520 Speaker 1: particularly close. Couple of minus twenty seven yards rushing. 299 00:16:03,080 --> 00:16:03,680 Speaker 3: Didn't see the. 300 00:16:03,680 --> 00:16:08,120 Speaker 1: Field particularly well sacked six times. Listen, Indiana's really good. 301 00:16:08,840 --> 00:16:11,640 Speaker 1: Indiana's a really good football team and really well coached. 302 00:16:12,080 --> 00:16:17,320 Speaker 1: But Dante Moore, it did not look great. Let's just 303 00:16:17,440 --> 00:16:20,640 Speaker 1: be honest about this. It was a really, really bad game. 304 00:16:21,160 --> 00:16:23,440 Speaker 1: Considering the quality of the staff and the quality of 305 00:16:23,520 --> 00:16:24,480 Speaker 1: Oregon talent, this. 306 00:16:24,600 --> 00:16:25,160 Speaker 3: Was a stinker. 307 00:16:25,760 --> 00:16:29,720 Speaker 1: Where Colin was right, Well, I said the Dolphins, I 308 00:16:29,840 --> 00:16:32,400 Speaker 1: don't trust the culture and the head coach here was 309 00:16:32,680 --> 00:16:37,440 Speaker 1: Tua after losing to the LA Chargers. 310 00:16:37,560 --> 00:16:38,080 Speaker 3: Listen to this. 311 00:16:39,400 --> 00:16:42,680 Speaker 9: I think it starts with the leadership in helping articulate 312 00:16:42,760 --> 00:16:45,560 Speaker 9: that for the guys, and then what we're expecting out 313 00:16:45,600 --> 00:16:47,760 Speaker 9: of the guys, Right, we're expecting this. 314 00:16:48,320 --> 00:16:48,960 Speaker 3: Are we getting that? 315 00:16:49,080 --> 00:16:49,920 Speaker 6: Are we not getting that? 316 00:16:50,520 --> 00:16:53,760 Speaker 9: We have guys showing up to only player only meetings late, 317 00:16:54,440 --> 00:16:57,240 Speaker 9: guys not showing up to player only meeting Like, there's 318 00:16:57,280 --> 00:16:59,280 Speaker 9: a lot that goes into that. It's a lot of 319 00:17:00,440 --> 00:17:03,600 Speaker 9: it's a lot of things of that nature that we 320 00:17:03,720 --> 00:17:04,560 Speaker 9: got to get cleaned up. 321 00:17:05,480 --> 00:17:06,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a little late. 322 00:17:07,560 --> 00:17:12,480 Speaker 1: Three picks had the game one toa basically saying is yeah, 323 00:17:12,520 --> 00:17:14,480 Speaker 1: we don't have a culture here of accountability. 324 00:17:14,800 --> 00:17:18,600 Speaker 3: Not good. Where Colin was right, Let's wrap it up 325 00:17:18,640 --> 00:17:18,800 Speaker 3: with this. 326 00:17:19,560 --> 00:17:22,199 Speaker 1: The Mariners ta goo one on lead in the American 327 00:17:22,280 --> 00:17:23,520 Speaker 1: League Championship Series. 328 00:17:23,600 --> 00:17:25,320 Speaker 3: I said two weeks ago. 329 00:17:25,560 --> 00:17:28,400 Speaker 1: Despite having the number fifteen payroll, they are a more 330 00:17:28,560 --> 00:17:31,639 Speaker 1: balanced even team than the Yankees. They can defend. They 331 00:17:31,680 --> 00:17:35,080 Speaker 1: have good starting pitching. Right now, opposing hitters in the 332 00:17:35,119 --> 00:17:37,680 Speaker 1: playoffs are hitting a buck eighty three on Mariners pitching. 333 00:17:37,960 --> 00:17:40,560 Speaker 1: Mendoza is a great closer. They can hit for power 334 00:17:41,520 --> 00:17:43,800 Speaker 1: station to station baseball. They can do whatever you want. 335 00:17:44,000 --> 00:17:47,640 Speaker 1: It's a very complete team. You know, cal Rawly's their star. 336 00:17:48,720 --> 00:17:50,840 Speaker 1: There's no question. They're not as star studded as a 337 00:17:50,920 --> 00:17:53,200 Speaker 1: team like the Yankees, but the Yankees don't do a 338 00:17:53,240 --> 00:17:57,359 Speaker 1: lot well outside of hit home runs. Mariners, I believe 339 00:17:57,400 --> 00:17:59,960 Speaker 1: will make the World Series and they'll face the Brewers 340 00:18:00,040 --> 00:18:03,439 Speaker 1: when they get there. Colin Wright, Colin wrong on a Monday, 341 00:18:03,440 --> 00:18:04,720 Speaker 1: and let's go to Matt Hasselbeck. 342 00:18:04,760 --> 00:18:07,360 Speaker 3: Three Pro Bowls, eighteen years in the NFL. Love him 343 00:18:07,359 --> 00:18:07,840 Speaker 3: on a Monday. 344 00:18:08,400 --> 00:18:10,680 Speaker 1: I want to start with the Dolphins, which is not 345 00:18:10,880 --> 00:18:14,200 Speaker 1: the sexiest team. But when Tua calls out as coach, 346 00:18:14,280 --> 00:18:16,159 Speaker 1: it's like, Okay, what are we doing here? Like this 347 00:18:16,280 --> 00:18:18,960 Speaker 1: thing has gone sideways? What do you make I mean, 348 00:18:19,000 --> 00:18:21,680 Speaker 1: it's obviously they're gonna make big changes. They could change 349 00:18:21,720 --> 00:18:24,480 Speaker 1: the GM, the coach. Just let's just wrap a bow 350 00:18:24,600 --> 00:18:26,120 Speaker 1: on what is wrong with Miami. 351 00:18:27,600 --> 00:18:29,959 Speaker 6: Well, I thought he called out himself. Really, I mean, 352 00:18:30,040 --> 00:18:32,640 Speaker 6: you're the franchise quarterback and you're saying that players don't 353 00:18:32,640 --> 00:18:36,040 Speaker 6: come to players only meetings, Like that's an indictment on you, 354 00:18:36,440 --> 00:18:39,639 Speaker 6: Like no offense. Sometimes when you're not like an alpha 355 00:18:39,840 --> 00:18:42,280 Speaker 6: personality as a quarterback, you kind of need an alpha 356 00:18:42,359 --> 00:18:45,880 Speaker 6: head coach. But if you're kind of like a soft spoken, Hey, 357 00:18:46,080 --> 00:18:48,600 Speaker 6: I'm not really that guy, then I don't know if 358 00:18:48,640 --> 00:18:50,440 Speaker 6: you can have a head coach that really isn't that 359 00:18:50,600 --> 00:18:53,200 Speaker 6: guy either. I'm just thinking about it like that, That 360 00:18:53,640 --> 00:18:56,080 Speaker 6: to me was as bad as it gets at the podium. 361 00:18:56,119 --> 00:18:59,480 Speaker 6: That's not the time, it's not the place. Listen, no 362 00:18:59,520 --> 00:19:02,639 Speaker 6: one likes players only meeting but sometimes they need to happen, 363 00:19:02,960 --> 00:19:05,640 Speaker 6: and it's kind of a tell the truth Monday situation 364 00:19:05,920 --> 00:19:08,879 Speaker 6: usually and you air it all out and it's uncomfortable. 365 00:19:09,240 --> 00:19:11,320 Speaker 6: But uh, but that that was just a bad look 366 00:19:11,359 --> 00:19:14,120 Speaker 6: all the way around. I'm embarrassed for him. I'm sure 367 00:19:14,160 --> 00:19:16,920 Speaker 6: he regrets it, and uh, you know, that's a team 368 00:19:17,040 --> 00:19:19,600 Speaker 6: that needs some leadership to step up. And it doesn't 369 00:19:19,640 --> 00:19:21,240 Speaker 6: have to be the guy that gets to call the 370 00:19:21,280 --> 00:19:23,280 Speaker 6: plays in the huddle. If it's got to be somebody else, 371 00:19:23,600 --> 00:19:25,280 Speaker 6: then it's got to be somebody else. But that was 372 00:19:25,560 --> 00:19:26,280 Speaker 6: that was a bad look. 373 00:19:26,680 --> 00:19:29,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, be sure to catch live editions of the Herd 374 00:19:29,480 --> 00:19:31,960 Speaker 2: weekdays and neon Easter not a Empacific. 375 00:19:32,280 --> 00:19:34,440 Speaker 1: So you know, I said them in the Kansas City 376 00:19:34,560 --> 00:19:37,119 Speaker 1: Chiefs or you know, a couple of weeks ago. We 377 00:19:37,200 --> 00:19:39,440 Speaker 1: looked at him and we said, you know, folks, I 378 00:19:39,480 --> 00:19:41,080 Speaker 1: don't want to hear about the Ravens injuries. 379 00:19:41,240 --> 00:19:42,040 Speaker 3: It looks different. 380 00:19:42,160 --> 00:19:44,600 Speaker 1: Turn the sound on your TV down, watch the speed 381 00:19:45,440 --> 00:19:47,920 Speaker 1: they they're not letting people over the top. And I 382 00:19:48,040 --> 00:19:51,920 Speaker 1: watched last night and they no penalties, no turnovers in 383 00:19:52,000 --> 00:19:55,120 Speaker 1: one punt, Like you know what it felt like. Man, 384 00:19:55,640 --> 00:19:57,920 Speaker 1: you probably played on a veteran team at one point. 385 00:19:58,040 --> 00:19:59,760 Speaker 1: That was one of those where the veterans are like, 386 00:19:59,800 --> 00:20:02,200 Speaker 1: gu we have to play our cleanest game of the season. 387 00:20:03,040 --> 00:20:03,399 Speaker 3: I don't know. 388 00:20:03,480 --> 00:20:06,239 Speaker 1: I mean, do you see an they look different than 389 00:20:06,280 --> 00:20:08,960 Speaker 1: four weeks ago? But I didn't play in the sport. 390 00:20:09,240 --> 00:20:09,920 Speaker 3: What do you see? 391 00:20:10,840 --> 00:20:12,880 Speaker 6: Well, I think there's a confidence that comes with having 392 00:20:12,920 --> 00:20:15,000 Speaker 6: a good offensive line. I think they feel really great 393 00:20:15,040 --> 00:20:17,520 Speaker 6: about this offensive line. There's also a confidence with the 394 00:20:17,600 --> 00:20:20,040 Speaker 6: teams that are still playing with their starting quarterback. And 395 00:20:20,119 --> 00:20:22,480 Speaker 6: then if you're starting quarterbacks one of the greatest quarterbacks 396 00:20:22,480 --> 00:20:24,639 Speaker 6: to ever play the game ever, and then you've got 397 00:20:24,680 --> 00:20:28,040 Speaker 6: the best offensive play caller designer in our era and 398 00:20:28,160 --> 00:20:30,600 Speaker 6: Andy Reid, like, literally, how are you gonna like? That 399 00:20:30,760 --> 00:20:33,320 Speaker 6: gives me confidence as a player. That gives me confidence 400 00:20:33,320 --> 00:20:35,879 Speaker 6: as a locker room and as a defense, like you 401 00:20:35,960 --> 00:20:39,000 Speaker 6: got Mahomes over here running like speed option like like 402 00:20:39,160 --> 00:20:41,719 Speaker 6: six young or something like, you got to defend it all. 403 00:20:41,800 --> 00:20:44,479 Speaker 6: And so listen, as they're getting healthy, they get worthy back, 404 00:20:44,480 --> 00:20:47,040 Speaker 6: they're getting rice back. You can tell that this is 405 00:20:47,119 --> 00:20:50,120 Speaker 6: a team. There's no panic, there's no players only meetings there. 406 00:20:50,480 --> 00:20:52,959 Speaker 6: You know they're they're three and three. The guy's not falling. 407 00:20:53,280 --> 00:20:54,720 Speaker 6: You know, they're like, hey, we're going to we're gonna go. 408 00:20:54,760 --> 00:20:56,399 Speaker 6: Want to know this week, you know we're probably like 409 00:20:56,520 --> 00:20:59,480 Speaker 6: a game out. We're good, Like we're absolutely good, And 410 00:20:59,600 --> 00:21:03,239 Speaker 6: I promise you there. Last week was tough. They might 411 00:21:03,280 --> 00:21:05,600 Speaker 6: maybe they did have to have players speak up, but 412 00:21:05,680 --> 00:21:06,960 Speaker 6: I don't think this is the kind of team that 413 00:21:07,040 --> 00:21:09,159 Speaker 6: needs coaches to leave the room when players want to 414 00:21:09,160 --> 00:21:11,720 Speaker 6: air out some stuff that they got to say, and so, like, 415 00:21:11,800 --> 00:21:14,400 Speaker 6: I just think the culture is there, the continuity's been there, 416 00:21:14,800 --> 00:21:17,400 Speaker 6: and you have you have alpha's at the head coach, 417 00:21:17,840 --> 00:21:20,320 Speaker 6: at the quarterback, at the tight end, at d line, 418 00:21:20,680 --> 00:21:23,520 Speaker 6: all over, good team, good franchise, top to bottom. 419 00:21:23,800 --> 00:21:27,119 Speaker 1: Yeah, so you know, it'd be one thing if Baker 420 00:21:27,200 --> 00:21:31,560 Speaker 1: Mayfield's reboot in his career was based on like one 421 00:21:31,680 --> 00:21:34,919 Speaker 1: coach or one coordinator. The fact is the last two 422 00:21:35,000 --> 00:21:37,920 Speaker 1: coordinators under him left to get head coaching jobs. Some 423 00:21:38,119 --> 00:21:42,399 Speaker 1: quarterbacks get coordinators fired, He's getting them hired, and so 424 00:21:42,760 --> 00:21:45,639 Speaker 1: I would like to give other people credit, but a 425 00:21:45,720 --> 00:21:48,920 Speaker 1: lot of this is just Baker's will. Did you ever 426 00:21:49,040 --> 00:21:52,199 Speaker 1: think Baker Mayfield would be this good in the NFL? 427 00:21:53,840 --> 00:21:56,760 Speaker 6: I thought he was a risky first overall pick, but no, 428 00:21:56,960 --> 00:21:59,800 Speaker 6: he hasn't it factor. And everyone said that from from 429 00:22:00,640 --> 00:22:02,680 Speaker 6: the get go. You know, they were a little concerned 430 00:22:02,720 --> 00:22:05,879 Speaker 6: it was too brash, it's too Brett Farv. But no, 431 00:22:06,040 --> 00:22:08,879 Speaker 6: he has exceeded I think everybody's expectations this. I mean, 432 00:22:09,240 --> 00:22:11,560 Speaker 6: his response to the MVP thing was great. We don't 433 00:22:11,600 --> 00:22:14,359 Speaker 6: need to crown an MVP after Week six. But listen, 434 00:22:14,640 --> 00:22:17,080 Speaker 6: he'd be the guy. Like, he'd absolutely be the guy. 435 00:22:17,160 --> 00:22:18,720 Speaker 6: The best thing you can say about a quarterback is 436 00:22:18,760 --> 00:22:21,159 Speaker 6: he makes the guys around him better. He's got you know, 437 00:22:21,280 --> 00:22:24,320 Speaker 6: all his you know, exciting weapons are out. He's throwing. 438 00:22:24,359 --> 00:22:26,480 Speaker 6: He threw two touchdowns yesterday to guys that it was 439 00:22:26,520 --> 00:22:29,640 Speaker 6: their first touchdown ever. Like he has put literally put 440 00:22:29,720 --> 00:22:32,400 Speaker 6: this team on his back. The personality that he has 441 00:22:32,520 --> 00:22:35,600 Speaker 6: is showing up on his team. And I believe that's contagious. 442 00:22:35,720 --> 00:22:37,760 Speaker 6: I really think it's contagious. And this is a team 443 00:22:37,760 --> 00:22:39,720 Speaker 6: that you don't want to face. Tampa is the is 444 00:22:39,760 --> 00:22:41,160 Speaker 6: the real deal, and it's because of Baker. 445 00:22:41,600 --> 00:22:44,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, and there is value in winning these close games 446 00:22:44,119 --> 00:22:46,520 Speaker 1: time and time again. There you can't tell me there's not. 447 00:22:46,640 --> 00:22:49,720 Speaker 1: Some It's like a baseball team that keeps coming back 448 00:22:49,800 --> 00:22:53,399 Speaker 1: and winning. I think that stuff always has a redeemable quality. 449 00:22:53,920 --> 00:22:55,959 Speaker 6: Yeah. And if I could just add one other thing 450 00:22:56,359 --> 00:22:59,040 Speaker 6: is he has become such a great deep ball thrower. 451 00:22:59,560 --> 00:23:01,719 Speaker 6: You know a lot of times quarterbacks that he's kind 452 00:23:01,760 --> 00:23:05,000 Speaker 6: of played safe. His eyes are way downfield the third 453 00:23:05,119 --> 00:23:06,879 Speaker 6: level of the defense and he's like, you know what, 454 00:23:07,359 --> 00:23:09,359 Speaker 6: I don't care if it's a little bit late. I'm 455 00:23:09,400 --> 00:23:11,200 Speaker 6: throwing it deep down in the middle of my guys 456 00:23:11,240 --> 00:23:13,239 Speaker 6: and giving you a chance. And I think that's been 457 00:23:13,280 --> 00:23:15,120 Speaker 6: one of the most dangerous parts about his game. 458 00:23:15,960 --> 00:23:18,560 Speaker 1: So let's talk about his draft class in Sam Donald. 459 00:23:18,880 --> 00:23:22,439 Speaker 1: So I think what's impressive about Sam Donald? The Minnesota 460 00:23:22,520 --> 00:23:24,920 Speaker 1: team he was on had a veteran left tackle and 461 00:23:24,960 --> 00:23:27,480 Speaker 1: a veteran running back and a veteran wide receiver, and 462 00:23:27,640 --> 00:23:28,320 Speaker 1: Justin Jefferson. 463 00:23:28,480 --> 00:23:30,320 Speaker 3: He goes to Seattle and its kids. 464 00:23:30,800 --> 00:23:34,840 Speaker 1: It's the second youngest offense, and we were all like, boy, JSN, 465 00:23:35,080 --> 00:23:38,199 Speaker 1: is that a number one guy? Explain to me, now, 466 00:23:38,240 --> 00:23:42,119 Speaker 1: maybe JSN super mature. Explain to me how JSN and 467 00:23:42,280 --> 00:23:46,240 Speaker 1: Donald are this good together this quickly? You only have 468 00:23:46,359 --> 00:23:48,520 Speaker 1: so much practice time. How does it look like they've 469 00:23:48,520 --> 00:23:49,600 Speaker 1: been together for eight years? 470 00:23:50,680 --> 00:23:52,639 Speaker 6: Well, I think they're bought into the system. I mean, 471 00:23:52,680 --> 00:23:54,720 Speaker 6: this is the same system that he threw thirty five 472 00:23:54,800 --> 00:23:57,560 Speaker 6: touchdowns in last year. And I think there's like with 473 00:23:57,800 --> 00:24:00,400 Speaker 6: the experience, now, there's a lot of wisdom, he says. 474 00:24:00,640 --> 00:24:02,680 Speaker 6: You know, he can come into JSN and be like, hey, listen, 475 00:24:02,800 --> 00:24:04,680 Speaker 6: this is how you know Justin Jefferson did it. You know, 476 00:24:04,760 --> 00:24:07,119 Speaker 6: what do you think and Klint Kubiak has you know, 477 00:24:07,280 --> 00:24:10,840 Speaker 6: really come from that same Kyle Shanahan tree. But I 478 00:24:10,880 --> 00:24:12,760 Speaker 6: think you also empower a guy when you give him 479 00:24:12,760 --> 00:24:14,760 Speaker 6: the contract that they gave Sam Donald and you say, hey, 480 00:24:14,800 --> 00:24:18,159 Speaker 6: you're the guy. And I think he's taken ownership of that. 481 00:24:18,359 --> 00:24:20,480 Speaker 6: He's playing great football. I think on both sides of 482 00:24:20,520 --> 00:24:23,000 Speaker 6: the ball. Listen in Seattle's defense, this is a team 483 00:24:23,119 --> 00:24:26,160 Speaker 6: that they've got length, they've got speed, they're very young, 484 00:24:26,240 --> 00:24:28,760 Speaker 6: they've got a young head coach. You know, when you're 485 00:24:28,840 --> 00:24:31,679 Speaker 6: given when your defense is creating seven sacks, that's going 486 00:24:31,760 --> 00:24:34,040 Speaker 6: to help your offense as well. So I don't think 487 00:24:34,119 --> 00:24:36,879 Speaker 6: this is a finished product team. I mean there's actually 488 00:24:37,080 --> 00:24:39,760 Speaker 6: areas where this offense can really improve. Third down would 489 00:24:39,760 --> 00:24:41,760 Speaker 6: be a great example they got to improve. But I 490 00:24:41,800 --> 00:24:44,200 Speaker 6: think what Donald has done such an amazing job of 491 00:24:44,760 --> 00:24:48,080 Speaker 6: is under center, play action, turn your back to the defense, 492 00:24:48,400 --> 00:24:51,160 Speaker 6: which marries up with the run game that they're trying 493 00:24:51,200 --> 00:24:54,280 Speaker 6: to establish. And JSN Literally, I think I've been saying 494 00:24:54,320 --> 00:24:56,520 Speaker 6: this for a long time. I think he's the most 495 00:24:56,640 --> 00:24:58,680 Speaker 6: underrated wide receiver in the entire NFL. 496 00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:04,639 Speaker 1: So a lot of people didn't watch the Saints or Patriots, 497 00:25:05,119 --> 00:25:08,720 Speaker 1: but I remember during camp Mike Vrabel coming out and 498 00:25:08,800 --> 00:25:10,680 Speaker 1: it was one of those quotes that's kind of memorable. 499 00:25:10,680 --> 00:25:14,000 Speaker 1: He's like, you know, Drake's got to understand leadership is 500 00:25:14,080 --> 00:25:17,240 Speaker 1: seven days a week. It's not a great practice. You 501 00:25:17,359 --> 00:25:18,800 Speaker 1: got to be a leader seven days a week. And 502 00:25:18,880 --> 00:25:20,880 Speaker 1: it was kind of like, I really like this kid, 503 00:25:21,280 --> 00:25:23,760 Speaker 1: but he's he's young. And I always said, I think 504 00:25:23,800 --> 00:25:26,400 Speaker 1: it's so weird. You're twenty four years old. You walk 505 00:25:26,480 --> 00:25:28,719 Speaker 1: into a locker room with rich dudes that are thirty one, 506 00:25:28,760 --> 00:25:30,399 Speaker 1: and it's like, all right, you're the parent. 507 00:25:30,800 --> 00:25:32,240 Speaker 3: It's like that is hard. 508 00:25:32,720 --> 00:25:36,159 Speaker 1: But the last three or four weeks, you tell me, 509 00:25:36,840 --> 00:25:40,400 Speaker 1: it looks like Drake May is as good as any 510 00:25:40,440 --> 00:25:42,920 Speaker 1: quarterback in his class. He's not Jaden Daniels yet, but 511 00:25:43,240 --> 00:25:45,159 Speaker 1: I don't know, it feels special to me. 512 00:25:46,560 --> 00:25:49,719 Speaker 6: No, he's not Jaden Daniels, but he outplayed Jaden Daniels 513 00:25:49,760 --> 00:25:52,480 Speaker 6: in those joint practices. When Frabel said that, and everyone 514 00:25:52,560 --> 00:25:55,600 Speaker 6: was trying to crown him as better than Jaden Daniels, 515 00:25:55,640 --> 00:25:57,679 Speaker 6: and Frabel was like, hey, in a Bill Parcell's kind 516 00:25:57,680 --> 00:26:00,320 Speaker 6: of way was like, hey, pump the brakes, but but no, 517 00:26:00,560 --> 00:26:03,400 Speaker 6: Drake May has everyone in New England excited, mostly because 518 00:26:03,400 --> 00:26:06,040 Speaker 6: of the huge win at Buffalo against Josh Allen. But 519 00:26:06,440 --> 00:26:09,120 Speaker 6: what I love what he's doing and Josh McDaniels is doing, 520 00:26:09,680 --> 00:26:12,040 Speaker 6: is they run so many different option routes. You know, 521 00:26:12,160 --> 00:26:14,119 Speaker 6: think about Josh Daniels and all the different guys that 522 00:26:14,240 --> 00:26:16,560 Speaker 6: ran option routes through you know when he was successful. 523 00:26:16,880 --> 00:26:19,840 Speaker 6: Drake has has an experience doing that at UNC. He's 524 00:26:19,880 --> 00:26:22,680 Speaker 6: got a great feel for Diggs and Pop Douglas and 525 00:26:22,760 --> 00:26:25,159 Speaker 6: all the different guys. So I believe that's one of 526 00:26:25,200 --> 00:26:27,920 Speaker 6: the harder things for quarterbacks is to really get on 527 00:26:27,960 --> 00:26:29,920 Speaker 6: the same page quick with the guys on option routes. 528 00:26:30,040 --> 00:26:31,920 Speaker 6: The other thing that Drake has done a great job 529 00:26:32,040 --> 00:26:35,000 Speaker 6: is before he uses his legs to scramble, he's using 530 00:26:35,080 --> 00:26:38,600 Speaker 6: the running back checkdown game again a Josh McDaniels staple. 531 00:26:39,000 --> 00:26:41,359 Speaker 6: So you know, is he ready to be crowned like 532 00:26:41,720 --> 00:26:43,879 Speaker 6: you know, the best quarterback in the AFC East, Or 533 00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:45,000 Speaker 6: is the next Tom Brady? 534 00:26:45,119 --> 00:26:45,159 Speaker 1: Like? 535 00:26:45,240 --> 00:26:47,840 Speaker 6: No, But the excitement is super real, and I think 536 00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:51,359 Speaker 6: Vrabel understands having been teammates with Tom Brady, having been 537 00:26:51,480 --> 00:26:55,280 Speaker 6: around great quarterbacks. I think Vrabels in Josh McDaniels, it's 538 00:26:55,359 --> 00:26:58,760 Speaker 6: like a nice little tag team for this quarterback. And 539 00:26:58,840 --> 00:27:01,440 Speaker 6: don't be surprised, literally, do not be surprised if the 540 00:27:01,480 --> 00:27:04,640 Speaker 6: Patriots are a playoff team this year. Great call by you, Colin. 541 00:27:04,960 --> 00:27:06,160 Speaker 6: Colin was right. 542 00:27:06,600 --> 00:27:08,480 Speaker 3: Well, you know, get a couple of them. 543 00:27:08,960 --> 00:27:11,360 Speaker 1: And by the way, I remind everybody when I hit 544 00:27:11,440 --> 00:27:13,919 Speaker 1: two times a year on being right, I make sure. 545 00:27:13,760 --> 00:27:15,880 Speaker 6: That you're like a broken clock. You're like a broken clock, 546 00:27:15,920 --> 00:27:17,560 Speaker 6: you're right twice a day. Garrett's sit. 547 00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:18,600 Speaker 3: Absolutely. 548 00:27:19,080 --> 00:27:21,840 Speaker 1: So there are some guys, and I'm always kind of 549 00:27:21,880 --> 00:27:24,560 Speaker 1: amazed by this quality there are. And I saw it 550 00:27:24,640 --> 00:27:27,080 Speaker 1: last year with Jayden Daniels. Some guys just see the 551 00:27:27,119 --> 00:27:31,920 Speaker 1: field and some quarterbacks don't. And Herbert Yesterday is under 552 00:27:32,080 --> 00:27:35,360 Speaker 1: duress and he's running around, he's switching hands with the ball. 553 00:27:35,680 --> 00:27:37,800 Speaker 1: He throws it out to maconk and I'm like, some 554 00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:40,720 Speaker 1: of this is innate. I don't think you can coach 555 00:27:40,840 --> 00:27:45,720 Speaker 1: some of this quarterback stuff. Herbert Yesterday three backup, all linemen, 556 00:27:45,840 --> 00:27:48,680 Speaker 1: no number one receiver, number three running back. How do 557 00:27:48,800 --> 00:27:52,159 Speaker 1: you view I mean, he's obviously physically impressive, but I 558 00:27:52,520 --> 00:27:55,720 Speaker 1: just sometimes he makes throws and I it's just I 559 00:27:55,760 --> 00:27:57,800 Speaker 1: don't know, is it coaching is it scheme? 560 00:27:57,920 --> 00:27:59,040 Speaker 3: What do you make of Herbert? 561 00:27:59,520 --> 00:28:02,119 Speaker 6: Well, yeah, you can't coach that stuff. I mean, you know, 562 00:28:02,320 --> 00:28:05,919 Speaker 6: literally those are ball control, ball in the pocket drills, 563 00:28:06,040 --> 00:28:08,399 Speaker 6: escapability drills. But you need the tangibles. 564 00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:08,680 Speaker 4: Listen. 565 00:28:09,040 --> 00:28:11,080 Speaker 6: I feel like I talk about intangibles a lot with 566 00:28:11,119 --> 00:28:13,520 Speaker 6: the quarterback, but you also need the tangibles you get 567 00:28:13,560 --> 00:28:16,840 Speaker 6: around justin Herbert. He's every bit of franchise quarterback. I mean, 568 00:28:16,920 --> 00:28:21,119 Speaker 6: he looks like Drew Drew Bledsoe. He moves like Brett 569 00:28:21,160 --> 00:28:23,239 Speaker 6: Farv like he's really incredible, and he does it at 570 00:28:23,240 --> 00:28:26,040 Speaker 6: the moment, at the clutch moments. Now here, here's another 571 00:28:26,119 --> 00:28:28,800 Speaker 6: guy you mentioned, he's on his third string left tackle. 572 00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:32,000 Speaker 6: Will they make a trade? Until they make a trade, 573 00:28:32,320 --> 00:28:36,080 Speaker 6: he's gonna have to throw with great anticipation, anticipitation or 574 00:28:36,280 --> 00:28:38,800 Speaker 6: he's going to have to really be superman like you 575 00:28:38,920 --> 00:28:41,120 Speaker 6: saw in this game. Put the team on his back. 576 00:28:41,320 --> 00:28:44,080 Speaker 6: But you're not gonna be playing the Miami Dolphins every week, 577 00:28:44,200 --> 00:28:46,680 Speaker 6: and so this is a this is a situation where 578 00:28:47,120 --> 00:28:48,920 Speaker 6: I think he's gonna need a little bit of help. 579 00:28:49,120 --> 00:28:51,760 Speaker 6: I mean, you look at Lamar Jackson, he needed help. 580 00:28:51,800 --> 00:28:54,240 Speaker 6: He's one of the game's great quarterbacks. Justin Herbert's gonna 581 00:28:54,240 --> 00:28:54,960 Speaker 6: need help as well. 582 00:28:55,960 --> 00:29:01,920 Speaker 1: Finally, Aaron Rodgers and his whole has never let go 583 00:29:02,080 --> 00:29:04,880 Speaker 1: of the ball this quickly. And I'd make the argument 584 00:29:05,200 --> 00:29:08,760 Speaker 1: Pittsburgh strange. They have three tight ends that are giants. 585 00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:10,360 Speaker 1: One of them is the biggest tight end of the league. 586 00:29:10,400 --> 00:29:13,240 Speaker 1: Let's go left tackle. Then they have DK Metcalf And 587 00:29:13,360 --> 00:29:15,600 Speaker 1: this is not necessarily a throw the ball over the 588 00:29:15,680 --> 00:29:18,240 Speaker 1: top team. It is a We've got really large, six 589 00:29:18,360 --> 00:29:21,080 Speaker 1: foot six men who are strong, get the ball to 590 00:29:21,080 --> 00:29:24,800 Speaker 1: women matchups, let them break some tackles. And he's getting 591 00:29:24,880 --> 00:29:27,320 Speaker 1: crushed in all these analytic grading systems that he's having 592 00:29:27,360 --> 00:29:29,560 Speaker 1: a bad year. And I'm like, no, I kind of 593 00:29:29,720 --> 00:29:32,000 Speaker 1: get it. They don't have a Xavier Worthy. That's not 594 00:29:32,160 --> 00:29:35,320 Speaker 1: that they don't have these lad mcconkeys. They have six 595 00:29:35,520 --> 00:29:39,120 Speaker 1: seven receivers and tight ends. What do you make of 596 00:29:39,200 --> 00:29:41,400 Speaker 1: Aaron just get spitting that thing out. Is he worried 597 00:29:41,400 --> 00:29:43,840 Speaker 1: about getting sacked? Is it just eat that simple? 598 00:29:45,120 --> 00:29:47,400 Speaker 6: He's smart. Listen, when I was starting, I think I 599 00:29:47,440 --> 00:29:50,560 Speaker 6: started eighty or nine games in my forties. I got 600 00:29:50,600 --> 00:29:53,240 Speaker 6: the ball out quick too. I wasn't like consciously trying 601 00:29:53,320 --> 00:29:55,120 Speaker 6: to do it. But I think maybe there is something 602 00:29:55,200 --> 00:29:56,760 Speaker 6: to like, Man, I'm good, I don't need to be 603 00:29:57,120 --> 00:29:58,680 Speaker 6: I don't need to show I'm John Wayne. I don't 604 00:29:58,680 --> 00:30:00,920 Speaker 6: need to take these hits. No, here's what they're doing. 605 00:30:00,920 --> 00:30:03,360 Speaker 6: He's getting the ball out really quick. But Arthur Smith 606 00:30:03,400 --> 00:30:06,760 Speaker 6: and Aaron Rodgers, they're moving the launch point. So the 607 00:30:06,840 --> 00:30:09,200 Speaker 6: quarterback is almost always like seven and a half or 608 00:30:09,280 --> 00:30:12,080 Speaker 6: nine and a half yards right behind the center. But 609 00:30:12,440 --> 00:30:14,719 Speaker 6: not Aaron Rodgers. Not this year. A lot of their 610 00:30:14,800 --> 00:30:17,040 Speaker 6: big plays are coming where the launch point is moving, 611 00:30:17,400 --> 00:30:19,040 Speaker 6: doesn't have to move too far. Could be in the 612 00:30:19,120 --> 00:30:20,640 Speaker 6: B gap, it could be in the sea gap. Maybe 613 00:30:20,680 --> 00:30:23,440 Speaker 6: it's all the way outside the hash, but that's buying 614 00:30:23,680 --> 00:30:26,959 Speaker 6: time within the design of the play, and even if 615 00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:29,680 Speaker 6: the defense covers it. That's where Aaron Rodgers has his 616 00:30:29,760 --> 00:30:32,400 Speaker 6: back shoulder throws, double moves, all the different stuff. So 617 00:30:32,880 --> 00:30:36,880 Speaker 6: I think this is a really really intentional game plan 618 00:30:37,080 --> 00:30:40,480 Speaker 6: by Arthur Smith, and it might be an unintentional thing 619 00:30:40,560 --> 00:30:43,040 Speaker 6: with Aaron Rodgers, like, it's all good, man, I can 620 00:30:43,160 --> 00:30:45,960 Speaker 6: play point guard. I don't need to be the shooting forward. 621 00:30:46,360 --> 00:30:49,160 Speaker 6: And that's great. That's what he really probably should have 622 00:30:49,200 --> 00:30:51,920 Speaker 6: been doing with the Jets. He's doing it great. This 623 00:30:52,120 --> 00:30:54,200 Speaker 6: is a nice fit. I think everyone was wondering how 624 00:30:54,240 --> 00:30:56,440 Speaker 6: the fit would be. But just notice the next time 625 00:30:56,440 --> 00:30:58,720 Speaker 6: you watch the Steelers, where that launch point is, where 626 00:30:58,760 --> 00:31:02,440 Speaker 6: he's letting the ball go for. It makes it difficult 627 00:31:02,520 --> 00:31:05,080 Speaker 6: on the defense and it protects a guy in his forties. 628 00:31:05,400 --> 00:31:07,120 Speaker 6: I'm a fan. I think they're doing great. 629 00:31:07,520 --> 00:31:10,959 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's more Chris Paul than Steph Curry. I can 630 00:31:11,040 --> 00:31:13,200 Speaker 1: hit the jumper, but I'm gonna get this ball out 631 00:31:13,560 --> 00:31:16,040 Speaker 1: because they have some unique body types. 632 00:31:16,080 --> 00:31:19,400 Speaker 3: I mean, Washington is he's six seven and a half. 633 00:31:19,520 --> 00:31:23,320 Speaker 1: I mean, they've got massive By the way you were 634 00:31:23,640 --> 00:31:26,720 Speaker 1: staff just said this. You were five and three as 635 00:31:26,760 --> 00:31:27,920 Speaker 1: a starter in your forties. 636 00:31:28,960 --> 00:31:32,160 Speaker 6: That's probably banged all two and banged up. You know 637 00:31:32,320 --> 00:31:34,719 Speaker 6: that was a you know, I do think like as 638 00:31:34,800 --> 00:31:38,080 Speaker 6: a quarterback sometimes you know, sometimes when you're younger, you 639 00:31:38,120 --> 00:31:40,960 Speaker 6: don't know enough. But I'm sure Aaron Rodgers he knows 640 00:31:41,040 --> 00:31:43,720 Speaker 6: it all, and he's like, man, I don't trust this situation. 641 00:31:44,280 --> 00:31:46,120 Speaker 6: You know, we got a tight end blocking backside on 642 00:31:46,200 --> 00:31:48,520 Speaker 6: the defensive end, Like this ball's coming out quick, like 643 00:31:48,880 --> 00:31:51,600 Speaker 6: he's been through the fire, he's learned the mistakes. I 644 00:31:51,720 --> 00:31:52,600 Speaker 6: know that was true for me. 645 00:31:53,360 --> 00:31:54,640 Speaker 3: Great Sanior Matt as always. 646 00:31:55,600 --> 00:31:59,480 Speaker 6: Thanks Sikon all Right, I love that twenty 647 00:31:59,560 --> 00:32:02,320 Speaker 1: Minutes with Matt Hasselbeck and Right and Wrong one of 648 00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:03,640 Speaker 1: my favorite twenty minutes of the week.