1 00:00:07,160 --> 00:00:11,360 Speaker 1: The Philly Show is presented by Fox One, Rubin Tomorrow Junior, 2 00:00:11,600 --> 00:00:17,000 Speaker 1: Jim Salisbury, Todd Zelecki. It's Friday, October twenty fourth, twenty 3 00:00:17,040 --> 00:00:20,479 Speaker 1: twenty five. You guys, you know Bryce Harper is a 4 00:00:20,520 --> 00:00:26,079 Speaker 1: superstar when one person can make one comment in a 5 00:00:26,120 --> 00:00:31,400 Speaker 1: press conference and eight days later we're still talking about it. 6 00:00:31,800 --> 00:00:36,120 Speaker 1: Let's talk more about Bryce Harper and Dave Dombrowski and 7 00:00:36,159 --> 00:00:44,280 Speaker 1: Scott Boris. It's time for the park's first pitch. First 8 00:00:44,320 --> 00:00:47,720 Speaker 1: pitch is brought to us exclusively by our partners at 9 00:00:47,760 --> 00:00:55,240 Speaker 1: Parks Casino, Pennsylvania's number one casino. So, guys, a recap. 10 00:00:55,360 --> 00:00:58,080 Speaker 1: Let's recap this whole thing. Right, So, last Thursday, Citizens 11 00:00:58,120 --> 00:01:01,080 Speaker 1: Bank Park, Dave Dombrowski does his mom on the season. 12 00:01:01,840 --> 00:01:04,240 Speaker 1: He's asked a lot of questions. He speaks for almost 13 00:01:04,319 --> 00:01:06,800 Speaker 1: an hour, so a lot of questions are being fired 14 00:01:06,840 --> 00:01:10,760 Speaker 1: at him and our good friend Mack Gelb. 15 00:01:10,600 --> 00:01:11,360 Speaker 2: From the Athletic. 16 00:01:11,680 --> 00:01:13,480 Speaker 1: I got to read you the question verbatim, just so 17 00:01:13,520 --> 00:01:15,399 Speaker 1: everybody knows what was asked exactly. 18 00:01:16,040 --> 00:01:21,920 Speaker 2: Is he a good friend? Eh, he's an acquaintance. He's 19 00:01:21,959 --> 00:01:22,639 Speaker 2: a good friend. 20 00:01:22,840 --> 00:01:24,440 Speaker 3: He's a nice little marsupial. 21 00:01:25,280 --> 00:01:27,000 Speaker 2: He is we love the Koala. 22 00:01:27,400 --> 00:01:31,080 Speaker 1: So the Kuala asks Dave what is the club's view 23 00:01:31,160 --> 00:01:35,120 Speaker 1: on his season, his being Bryce Harper season performance wise, 24 00:01:35,240 --> 00:01:38,880 Speaker 1: and also why do you believe maybe that it was 25 00:01:38,920 --> 00:01:41,600 Speaker 1: a down season for him and not the start of 26 00:01:41,680 --> 00:01:45,640 Speaker 1: maybe a downward trend. Here is what Dave said. I 27 00:01:45,680 --> 00:01:47,200 Speaker 1: know a lot of you guys have heard this before, 28 00:01:47,240 --> 00:01:49,160 Speaker 1: but let's let's go over to it one more time. 29 00:01:49,720 --> 00:01:53,000 Speaker 1: Dave Dombrowski's response to that question. He's still a quality player. 30 00:01:53,280 --> 00:01:56,000 Speaker 1: He's still an all star caliber player. He didn't have 31 00:01:56,040 --> 00:01:57,919 Speaker 1: an elite season like he has had in the past, 32 00:01:57,920 --> 00:01:59,920 Speaker 1: and I guess we only find out if he'd be 33 00:02:00,120 --> 00:02:04,200 Speaker 1: comes elite or he continues to be good. If you 34 00:02:04,200 --> 00:02:06,200 Speaker 1: look at around the league. I think Freddie Freeman, he's 35 00:02:06,200 --> 00:02:08,160 Speaker 1: a really good player, right, He's still a good player. 36 00:02:08,240 --> 00:02:10,800 Speaker 1: Is he elite like he was before? Probably not to 37 00:02:10,880 --> 00:02:13,760 Speaker 1: the same extent. Freddie is a treminous player, and that 38 00:02:13,840 --> 00:02:17,040 Speaker 1: to me is Bryce. Can he rise to the next level? 39 00:02:17,040 --> 00:02:17,280 Speaker 3: Again? 40 00:02:17,360 --> 00:02:20,040 Speaker 1: I don't really know that answer. He's the one that 41 00:02:20,080 --> 00:02:24,360 Speaker 1: will dictate that more than anything else. He continues on, 42 00:02:24,720 --> 00:02:26,600 Speaker 1: he thinks about Bryce, do you think about elite? You 43 00:02:26,639 --> 00:02:28,440 Speaker 1: think of one of the top ten players in baseball, 44 00:02:28,720 --> 00:02:31,360 Speaker 1: and then he says, but again, a very good player. 45 00:02:31,440 --> 00:02:33,800 Speaker 1: I've seen guys at his age. Again, he's not old 46 00:02:34,320 --> 00:02:39,000 Speaker 1: that level off, or I've seen guys rise again. So 47 00:02:39,080 --> 00:02:42,760 Speaker 1: obviously that blew up because it sounded well, sounded like 48 00:02:42,840 --> 00:02:45,800 Speaker 1: a lot of things. And here's what Dave Dombrowski said 49 00:02:45,800 --> 00:02:50,119 Speaker 1: on Thursday and followed Territory when Eric krat asked him about. 50 00:02:49,919 --> 00:02:52,960 Speaker 4: It, your comments about Bryce do you feel like they 51 00:02:53,000 --> 00:02:55,640 Speaker 4: were misconstrued because we talked about it on here and 52 00:02:55,680 --> 00:02:57,799 Speaker 4: I was kind of like, I don't know, maybe it's 53 00:02:57,840 --> 00:03:00,640 Speaker 4: a little motivation. Which do you feel like your comments 54 00:03:00,680 --> 00:03:04,520 Speaker 4: about him, you know, not being elite right now or 55 00:03:04,560 --> 00:03:07,600 Speaker 4: if he'll ever get back to being elite because you 56 00:03:07,639 --> 00:03:11,440 Speaker 4: are honest and we appreciate honesty in baseball. That is 57 00:03:11,480 --> 00:03:15,440 Speaker 4: like the greatest traits besides hitting homers. 58 00:03:15,240 --> 00:03:17,440 Speaker 5: Well, and it's of course got a life of its own. 59 00:03:17,480 --> 00:03:19,840 Speaker 6: I said so many things in a one hour press conference, 60 00:03:20,320 --> 00:03:22,040 Speaker 6: and this is the one thing that gets out of there. 61 00:03:22,280 --> 00:03:24,880 Speaker 6: First of all, I mean, to me, Bryce Harper is 62 00:03:24,919 --> 00:03:26,640 Speaker 6: one of the best players in the game of baseball. 63 00:03:27,200 --> 00:03:30,280 Speaker 6: And when I say he didn't have it, they asked 64 00:03:30,280 --> 00:03:32,360 Speaker 6: me what type of year did you think he had, 65 00:03:32,840 --> 00:03:35,160 Speaker 6: and I said, he had a very good year. 66 00:03:35,160 --> 00:03:36,480 Speaker 5: I don't think he had an elite year. 67 00:03:37,000 --> 00:03:40,320 Speaker 6: And when I say that, when I think of Bryce Harper, 68 00:03:41,200 --> 00:03:44,800 Speaker 6: it's a compliment because the reality is, there are i 69 00:03:44,800 --> 00:03:46,960 Speaker 6: don't know eight ten players in the game of baseball 70 00:03:47,000 --> 00:03:49,600 Speaker 6: every year when they're not, let's say, in the MVP 71 00:03:49,800 --> 00:03:54,160 Speaker 6: consideration for whatever reason. Sometimes it can be an injury factor. 72 00:03:54,240 --> 00:03:57,080 Speaker 6: Sometimes they just have a bad year, but whatever it's 73 00:03:57,440 --> 00:04:00,760 Speaker 6: it's not an elite year for them. So the reality 74 00:04:00,880 --> 00:04:03,120 Speaker 6: is is that he's a great player. He's a future 75 00:04:03,160 --> 00:04:05,680 Speaker 6: Hall of Famer. This thing's got a life of its own. 76 00:04:05,720 --> 00:04:05,840 Speaker 5: Now. 77 00:04:05,840 --> 00:04:08,440 Speaker 6: I've been reading that although Phillies made trade Bryce Harper, 78 00:04:08,520 --> 00:04:09,920 Speaker 6: that couldn't be further from the truth. 79 00:04:09,960 --> 00:04:10,520 Speaker 5: We love him. 80 00:04:10,560 --> 00:04:12,960 Speaker 6: I think he's a great player. He's a very important 81 00:04:13,000 --> 00:04:16,280 Speaker 6: part of our team. I've seen him have better years. 82 00:04:16,480 --> 00:04:18,320 Speaker 6: I look for him to have better years, but I 83 00:04:18,320 --> 00:04:21,360 Speaker 6: think what ends up happening, this is not meant for him. 84 00:04:21,400 --> 00:04:25,440 Speaker 6: And I was reading an article yesterday. It wasn't about Bryce, 85 00:04:25,520 --> 00:04:28,200 Speaker 6: was actually about Kyle Schwarber that Mike Schmidt talked about, 86 00:04:28,600 --> 00:04:31,640 Speaker 6: and I thought it was so good, and I was 87 00:04:31,680 --> 00:04:35,640 Speaker 6: looking back at my Miguel Cabrera days probably the best 88 00:04:35,680 --> 00:04:38,839 Speaker 6: as good a player that I've been around in year 89 00:04:38,880 --> 00:04:42,160 Speaker 6: out and got to thirty three and he had won 90 00:04:42,200 --> 00:04:44,400 Speaker 6: the Triple Crown. He had been the MVP two years 91 00:04:44,400 --> 00:04:46,280 Speaker 6: agow and he wasn't quite the same player. 92 00:04:46,600 --> 00:04:46,880 Speaker 5: Well. 93 00:04:47,640 --> 00:04:50,000 Speaker 6: Mike Schmidt's comments because I asked him about Kyle, said, 94 00:04:50,279 --> 00:04:52,640 Speaker 6: you're getting into your middle thirties, moving a little bit 95 00:04:52,680 --> 00:04:56,120 Speaker 6: into your late thirties. If you can stay healthy, continue 96 00:04:56,160 --> 00:04:58,839 Speaker 6: a really really strong workout program in the off season, 97 00:04:59,200 --> 00:05:01,960 Speaker 6: your flexibility he has to be there. Your batspeed opoly 98 00:05:02,240 --> 00:05:05,000 Speaker 6: obviously has to stay up. Your eyes have to stay 99 00:05:05,000 --> 00:05:06,880 Speaker 6: You've got to be able to see have a twenty 100 00:05:06,920 --> 00:05:08,880 Speaker 6: twenty vision when I played, and it's more important to 101 00:05:08,880 --> 00:05:11,520 Speaker 6: get good insight eyesight as you go along. There's a 102 00:05:11,520 --> 00:05:13,599 Speaker 6: lot of non mechanical baseball swing issues. 103 00:05:13,640 --> 00:05:14,520 Speaker 5: They have to stay right. 104 00:05:15,080 --> 00:05:18,920 Speaker 6: So basically that's what happens with every player. I mean 105 00:05:18,960 --> 00:05:21,560 Speaker 6: the reality now, I'll take my chances with Bryce more 106 00:05:21,600 --> 00:05:25,280 Speaker 6: than most because Bryce is an elite talent, and he's 107 00:05:25,320 --> 00:05:28,680 Speaker 6: a very very talented individual, and he's driven. So I 108 00:05:28,720 --> 00:05:32,200 Speaker 6: think that it's a shame where this has gone because 109 00:05:32,400 --> 00:05:34,000 Speaker 6: it wasn't meant to be a criticism. 110 00:05:34,000 --> 00:05:35,920 Speaker 5: It's just he didn't have a to me. 111 00:05:36,120 --> 00:05:38,359 Speaker 6: And when you talk about Bryce, and again it's a 112 00:05:38,360 --> 00:05:41,880 Speaker 6: few other guys when they aren't in the MVP considerations, 113 00:05:41,920 --> 00:05:43,720 Speaker 6: well it's probably not as good as yours that they've 114 00:05:43,720 --> 00:05:45,040 Speaker 6: had other times. 115 00:05:47,320 --> 00:05:49,279 Speaker 2: All Right, what do we think? 116 00:05:51,200 --> 00:05:53,440 Speaker 7: Well, I think he was being honest about his comments, 117 00:05:53,440 --> 00:05:55,320 Speaker 7: there's no question about that. But I also think that 118 00:05:55,360 --> 00:05:58,760 Speaker 7: there was a message or two in there. One and 119 00:05:59,520 --> 00:06:02,360 Speaker 7: Seed to double down a little bit on the messaging, 120 00:06:02,600 --> 00:06:07,320 Speaker 7: just with regard to the quotes from Mike Schmidt. Basically, 121 00:06:07,520 --> 00:06:10,640 Speaker 7: it was these are some of the things that needs 122 00:06:10,680 --> 00:06:12,680 Speaker 7: to that need to be done. You need to take 123 00:06:12,720 --> 00:06:14,760 Speaker 7: care of yourself in the off season. You need to 124 00:06:14,800 --> 00:06:18,320 Speaker 7: you know, stay on the regiment and you know, continue 125 00:06:18,360 --> 00:06:19,560 Speaker 7: to do the things that you do. 126 00:06:19,640 --> 00:06:22,960 Speaker 2: To keep yourself at that elite level. 127 00:06:23,920 --> 00:06:25,880 Speaker 7: So there's a little bit of messaging there from the 128 00:06:25,920 --> 00:06:27,600 Speaker 7: Mike Schmidt quote, I think. 129 00:06:29,279 --> 00:06:32,680 Speaker 2: But he reeled it back a little bit. 130 00:06:32,720 --> 00:06:36,240 Speaker 7: But you know, from the beginning, I know the comments 131 00:06:36,279 --> 00:06:40,680 Speaker 7: were interesting, uh and uh could make you raise your 132 00:06:40,680 --> 00:06:45,440 Speaker 7: eyebrow a few times. But I think there's also a 133 00:06:45,440 --> 00:06:49,680 Speaker 7: motivational piece of that involved and and I think that 134 00:06:49,680 --> 00:06:52,680 Speaker 7: that's that's okay, And I don't think there's anything wrong 135 00:06:52,720 --> 00:06:56,279 Speaker 7: with that. But I as far as him being traded 136 00:06:56,320 --> 00:06:57,440 Speaker 7: and being on the block and. 137 00:06:57,360 --> 00:07:00,080 Speaker 2: Stuff like that, I don't think there's much to that. 138 00:07:00,400 --> 00:07:01,880 Speaker 2: I really don't, right. 139 00:07:02,960 --> 00:07:05,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, I said this last week. I don't think they 140 00:07:05,880 --> 00:07:07,839 Speaker 3: want to trade him. The owner wants him to go 141 00:07:07,880 --> 00:07:10,800 Speaker 3: to Cooperstown with a pe on his hat, and I 142 00:07:10,800 --> 00:07:12,720 Speaker 3: think he wants to stay here. I do think he 143 00:07:12,800 --> 00:07:16,000 Speaker 3: really likes it here and he wants to win here. 144 00:07:16,360 --> 00:07:19,040 Speaker 3: I didn't have a problem with Dombrowski's comments last week. 145 00:07:19,040 --> 00:07:22,320 Speaker 3: I thought, like we said, you know, sometimes it gets 146 00:07:22,400 --> 00:07:26,880 Speaker 3: tiring listen to podium speak and GM speak and cliches 147 00:07:26,960 --> 00:07:32,040 Speaker 3: and noncommittal answers and political answers. 148 00:07:32,080 --> 00:07:33,400 Speaker 2: I used to toss out there. 149 00:07:33,520 --> 00:07:36,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, being afraid to speak your mind. I thought he 150 00:07:36,160 --> 00:07:36,960 Speaker 3: spoke his mind. 151 00:07:37,520 --> 00:07:37,720 Speaker 2: Yeah. 152 00:07:38,640 --> 00:07:43,120 Speaker 3: And I'm sure those were conversations they've had upstairs, and 153 00:07:43,480 --> 00:07:45,760 Speaker 3: maybe it just came out in a press conference setting. 154 00:07:46,120 --> 00:07:48,040 Speaker 3: I don't know that it was premeditated, because I don't 155 00:07:48,080 --> 00:07:52,239 Speaker 3: know that you can anticipate that question. But I honestly 156 00:07:52,280 --> 00:07:54,880 Speaker 3: commend him for being honest, because I thought it was 157 00:07:54,880 --> 00:07:57,200 Speaker 3: a really good season, but not a Bryce Harper season. 158 00:07:57,640 --> 00:07:57,960 Speaker 2: Correct. 159 00:07:58,240 --> 00:08:00,480 Speaker 3: The thing he left out was, yeah, I had that 160 00:08:01,000 --> 00:08:03,440 Speaker 3: risk he missed a month. Might have been a lot 161 00:08:03,480 --> 00:08:06,360 Speaker 3: different if you didn't have the rist soreness and played 162 00:08:06,360 --> 00:08:12,000 Speaker 3: that entire month. But nonetheless, I think everybody should be 163 00:08:12,000 --> 00:08:15,840 Speaker 3: able to take this. Stop being so sensitive. The boss 164 00:08:15,880 --> 00:08:18,640 Speaker 3: said something, he critiques someone, Now it's up to the 165 00:08:18,680 --> 00:08:23,000 Speaker 3: athlete the employee to respond. And knowing Bryce a little bit, 166 00:08:23,080 --> 00:08:26,040 Speaker 3: how competitive he is, and he's almost a little bit 167 00:08:26,080 --> 00:08:29,320 Speaker 3: like Kurt Shilling because he finds that little motivation streak 168 00:08:29,720 --> 00:08:32,240 Speaker 3: where nobody else can, you know, Like Tito used to 169 00:08:32,240 --> 00:08:35,520 Speaker 3: say about Shilling, he used to get motivated on Bobblehead Day. 170 00:08:35,760 --> 00:08:40,080 Speaker 3: If you slighted Shilling in the simplest way, he'd come 171 00:08:40,120 --> 00:08:41,920 Speaker 3: back and stick it right up your nose, you know 172 00:08:41,960 --> 00:08:44,280 Speaker 3: what I mean. And maybe that's what Bryce can do, 173 00:08:44,360 --> 00:08:45,960 Speaker 3: and maybe that's what Bryce has in him. I think 174 00:08:46,000 --> 00:08:49,880 Speaker 3: he does have a little bit of that in him. 175 00:08:50,320 --> 00:08:54,120 Speaker 3: The thirty three thing is interesting because I think athletes 176 00:08:54,240 --> 00:08:57,520 Speaker 3: change in this era, in the post steroid era. Guys 177 00:08:57,640 --> 00:09:02,040 Speaker 3: change after thirty three, and I think Bryce has to 178 00:09:02,120 --> 00:09:04,160 Speaker 3: change a little bit. And I'm not a hitting coach, 179 00:09:05,000 --> 00:09:09,640 Speaker 3: but that big, violent, all or nothing swing, if he 180 00:09:09,640 --> 00:09:12,439 Speaker 3: would reel it in a little bit. And if he 181 00:09:12,480 --> 00:09:14,440 Speaker 3: would make his goal not to hit a six hundred 182 00:09:14,440 --> 00:09:17,400 Speaker 3: foot home run, but make his goal to hit three hundred, 183 00:09:17,880 --> 00:09:20,160 Speaker 3: he'd finish in the top five of the MVP every year. 184 00:09:20,960 --> 00:09:23,000 Speaker 3: If he went out there and tried to hit three 185 00:09:23,080 --> 00:09:26,839 Speaker 3: hundred and made this change in his approach at age 186 00:09:26,880 --> 00:09:30,240 Speaker 3: thirty three, he'd have great season after great season. He'd 187 00:09:30,280 --> 00:09:34,559 Speaker 3: hit a shitload of doubles. He'd still he'd still accidentally 188 00:09:34,600 --> 00:09:37,440 Speaker 3: hit thirty five home runs and his average go up. 189 00:09:37,920 --> 00:09:39,920 Speaker 3: He'd be a he'd be that, he'd be that elite 190 00:09:40,000 --> 00:09:44,400 Speaker 3: offensive player again. I think it's time for that little adjustment. 191 00:09:45,440 --> 00:09:51,560 Speaker 3: But this whole Dombrowski comment thing, yeah, it's been blown 192 00:09:51,600 --> 00:09:53,520 Speaker 3: up a little bit because that's what happens in twenty 193 00:09:53,559 --> 00:09:56,560 Speaker 3: twenty five. That's what happens in Philadelphia. That's what we do. 194 00:09:57,240 --> 00:09:59,560 Speaker 3: And it did sound like a challenge, and it was 195 00:09:59,600 --> 00:10:03,040 Speaker 3: a there was nothing wrong with the observation from the 196 00:10:03,040 --> 00:10:05,319 Speaker 3: media force to say it sounded like a challenge, because 197 00:10:05,320 --> 00:10:08,880 Speaker 3: it sounded like a challenge, well challenge delivered great competitive 198 00:10:08,880 --> 00:10:13,000 Speaker 3: Bryce Harper, go answer it. Go answer it. You are 199 00:10:13,120 --> 00:10:14,520 Speaker 3: capable of answering it. 200 00:10:15,600 --> 00:10:18,400 Speaker 1: What do you say, well, you know, yeah, I feel 201 00:10:18,440 --> 00:10:20,800 Speaker 1: the same way. There was nothing that he said last 202 00:10:20,840 --> 00:10:24,320 Speaker 1: week that was like, oh, that's totally crazy and wild 203 00:10:24,360 --> 00:10:28,520 Speaker 1: to suggest any of this stuff. But the part that 204 00:10:28,640 --> 00:10:30,800 Speaker 1: jumped out to I think everybody was I said, will 205 00:10:30,840 --> 00:10:33,520 Speaker 1: he get will he get back to being elite? Or 206 00:10:33,520 --> 00:10:35,439 Speaker 1: will he continue to be good? I think that was 207 00:10:35,480 --> 00:10:37,240 Speaker 1: a line that stuck with everybody. It was kind of 208 00:10:37,280 --> 00:10:40,120 Speaker 1: like openly, openly questioning if that this is the best 209 00:10:40,160 --> 00:10:42,000 Speaker 1: word we're going to see from Bryce Harper in the future. 210 00:10:42,040 --> 00:10:44,520 Speaker 1: So that's why it blew up. Not saying that Bryce 211 00:10:44,520 --> 00:10:47,480 Speaker 1: Harper didn't have an elite season. I mean, everybody knows 212 00:10:47,520 --> 00:10:52,200 Speaker 1: it wasn't his typical season. But I was kind of 213 00:10:52,240 --> 00:10:55,760 Speaker 1: glad that Dave came out said there's not going to 214 00:10:55,760 --> 00:10:59,600 Speaker 1: be a we're not looking at trading Bryce Harper, because 215 00:10:59,640 --> 00:11:02,000 Speaker 1: I I didn't buy that for a second. I think 216 00:11:02,080 --> 00:11:04,000 Speaker 1: there are a lot of kind of conspiracy theories that 217 00:11:04,040 --> 00:11:06,800 Speaker 1: came out of that they're trying to push. 218 00:11:06,679 --> 00:11:07,320 Speaker 2: Him out of there. 219 00:11:08,320 --> 00:11:13,400 Speaker 1: You know, is this a contract dispute? Bryce Scott Worris 220 00:11:13,400 --> 00:11:15,160 Speaker 1: at the last two winter meetings have talked about a 221 00:11:15,200 --> 00:11:19,760 Speaker 1: contract extension. He still might get a contract extension. It 222 00:11:19,800 --> 00:11:22,000 Speaker 1: doesn't make sense to do it right now, certainly off 223 00:11:22,040 --> 00:11:24,360 Speaker 1: the season that he had, and certainly if you want 224 00:11:24,400 --> 00:11:27,600 Speaker 1: to build a good team, giving him a contract extension 225 00:11:27,679 --> 00:11:30,520 Speaker 1: right now doesn't make any sense because you still have 226 00:11:30,920 --> 00:11:33,040 Speaker 1: some Taiwan Walker on the book. So why would you 227 00:11:33,040 --> 00:11:34,760 Speaker 1: want to add more to the AAV, more to the 228 00:11:34,840 --> 00:11:37,600 Speaker 1: luxury tax and limit what you can do. Maybe it 229 00:11:37,679 --> 00:11:40,040 Speaker 1: happens next off season or the season after that, maybe 230 00:11:40,120 --> 00:11:42,440 Speaker 1: never happens at all. I don't know, but I don't 231 00:11:42,480 --> 00:11:45,160 Speaker 1: think that that was like I'm laying down the gauntlet here, 232 00:11:45,280 --> 00:11:49,000 Speaker 1: you know, no contract extension, and we're I'm trying to 233 00:11:49,000 --> 00:11:49,880 Speaker 1: get you out of Philly. 234 00:11:50,840 --> 00:11:53,520 Speaker 7: So now i'd like to we'd like to make one 235 00:11:53,600 --> 00:11:57,160 Speaker 7: last comment that you made, Jim, interestingly about the age 236 00:11:57,200 --> 00:11:59,680 Speaker 7: thirty three. You know, Mike Schmidt made a pretty massive 237 00:11:59,679 --> 00:12:02,719 Speaker 7: a jutt in his swing. You know, he ended up 238 00:12:02,760 --> 00:12:06,079 Speaker 7: not concentrating on trying to hit the ball with better 239 00:12:06,120 --> 00:12:08,400 Speaker 7: average and more consistency and drive the ball to the 240 00:12:08,400 --> 00:12:12,440 Speaker 7: opposite field. And I talked to him personally about those 241 00:12:12,559 --> 00:12:15,480 Speaker 7: and have had discussions with him about you know, because 242 00:12:15,520 --> 00:12:17,839 Speaker 7: he had, you know, aspirations of being a coach and 243 00:12:17,880 --> 00:12:20,720 Speaker 7: a manager and was in our organization for a little 244 00:12:20,720 --> 00:12:24,000 Speaker 7: while doing that, but it was something that he was 245 00:12:24,280 --> 00:12:27,160 Speaker 7: very passionate about the fact that he had to make 246 00:12:27,240 --> 00:12:31,080 Speaker 7: some physical adjustments and some mental adjustments to use the 247 00:12:31,200 --> 00:12:31,760 Speaker 7: entire field. 248 00:12:31,800 --> 00:12:34,160 Speaker 2: And I totally agree with you about the. 249 00:12:34,160 --> 00:12:36,880 Speaker 7: Violence of the swing that Bryce Harper brings and the 250 00:12:36,920 --> 00:12:39,720 Speaker 7: fact that just like Jim Tomy and what Charlie manually 251 00:12:39,720 --> 00:12:42,160 Speaker 7: needs to do with him, just hit three hundred and 252 00:12:42,240 --> 00:12:43,320 Speaker 7: the numbers will be there. 253 00:12:44,720 --> 00:12:49,400 Speaker 3: And there's another piece to this to getting more out 254 00:12:49,400 --> 00:12:51,960 Speaker 3: of him, and we I believe Todd are going to 255 00:12:52,040 --> 00:12:56,520 Speaker 3: get into that right after we get out of us 256 00:12:56,880 --> 00:12:59,440 Speaker 3: first pitch, and it was a good one. 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You guys are amazing, 311 00:15:39,000 --> 00:15:42,160 Speaker 7: listen to you all the time, watch you all the time. 312 00:15:42,320 --> 00:15:44,640 Speaker 7: It was the wholy demographic was like from twenty four 313 00:15:44,680 --> 00:15:46,840 Speaker 7: to to seventy. It was really cool to have like 314 00:15:46,880 --> 00:15:48,200 Speaker 7: five or six people come up to me and not 315 00:15:48,280 --> 00:15:50,800 Speaker 7: talk about not talk about, you know, the other stuff 316 00:15:50,800 --> 00:15:52,520 Speaker 7: that I do, but talk about the podcast. 317 00:15:52,520 --> 00:15:54,640 Speaker 2: And that was really really cool. That's awesome. 318 00:15:55,200 --> 00:15:57,840 Speaker 1: I love to hear. That's great, that's very cool. That's 319 00:15:57,880 --> 00:16:01,760 Speaker 1: really yeah, Jim and I, Yeah, we really appreciate everybody 320 00:16:01,760 --> 00:16:04,440 Speaker 1: that that supports the show and and thank you. Uh 321 00:16:04,520 --> 00:16:06,480 Speaker 1: and yeah, I'll just say one more time. We got 322 00:16:06,480 --> 00:16:09,880 Speaker 1: shows coming all winter, all off season, all Hot Stove seasons. 323 00:16:09,880 --> 00:16:14,600 Speaker 1: So you like to talk ball in the winner, keep 324 00:16:14,800 --> 00:16:20,360 Speaker 1: checking us out, right, Jim all love talking ball, love 325 00:16:20,440 --> 00:16:24,280 Speaker 1: talking ball. All right, So let's continue on this Bryce 326 00:16:24,320 --> 00:16:27,800 Speaker 1: Harper stuff. So earlier this week, I gave Bryce's agent, 327 00:16:28,360 --> 00:16:31,320 Speaker 1: Scott Boris a call, and I wanted to call him 328 00:16:31,360 --> 00:16:34,960 Speaker 1: just because of Dave's comments and a lot of the 329 00:16:35,640 --> 00:16:37,880 Speaker 1: blowback from it or whatever. Even though we all just 330 00:16:37,920 --> 00:16:40,800 Speaker 1: said that we thought there was nothing necessarily wrong and 331 00:16:41,000 --> 00:16:43,440 Speaker 1: with what he said, and we appreciated the honesty and 332 00:16:43,800 --> 00:16:46,960 Speaker 1: not the typical GM speak. But everyone's like, ah, you know, 333 00:16:47,200 --> 00:16:50,520 Speaker 1: Bryce is going to be pissed off by all this. 334 00:16:50,680 --> 00:16:52,200 Speaker 10: So I was like, let me call Scott and see 335 00:16:52,200 --> 00:17:00,080 Speaker 10: what Scott has to say. Great, so I asked, But 336 00:17:00,760 --> 00:17:04,159 Speaker 10: the question I asked Scott was almost verbatim. 337 00:17:04,200 --> 00:17:09,800 Speaker 1: I basically said, Scott, what can you say about Dave 338 00:17:09,840 --> 00:17:12,560 Speaker 1: Dombrowski's comments, because I think a lot of people in 339 00:17:12,560 --> 00:17:17,040 Speaker 1: Philadelphia are wondering if Bryce is maybe might be pissed 340 00:17:17,080 --> 00:17:20,280 Speaker 1: off by what he said. And the quote, if you 341 00:17:20,320 --> 00:17:23,240 Speaker 1: haven't read the story, it's on MLB dot com. He said, 342 00:17:23,280 --> 00:17:26,080 Speaker 1: Bryce shares in the frustration of the Phillies not being 343 00:17:26,119 --> 00:17:29,600 Speaker 1: a world champion, and then he kind of paused. He goes, 344 00:17:30,160 --> 00:17:33,119 Speaker 1: Dave has to do the Castharsis every year when they 345 00:17:33,160 --> 00:17:35,520 Speaker 1: don't win it, and I'm sure it's difficult to do. 346 00:17:36,240 --> 00:17:40,080 Speaker 1: And then he said, however, give Bryce Harper more pitches 347 00:17:40,119 --> 00:17:44,320 Speaker 1: to hit, and the metrics speak that they all that 348 00:17:44,520 --> 00:17:47,680 Speaker 1: all that they want will be delivered because the metrics 349 00:17:47,680 --> 00:17:50,200 Speaker 1: are clearly there that he's among the top in the game. 350 00:17:50,280 --> 00:17:53,800 Speaker 1: He continues to be all the data says that the 351 00:17:53,840 --> 00:17:55,960 Speaker 1: only issue that I was surprised by is that Dave 352 00:17:56,000 --> 00:17:57,720 Speaker 1: did not say that Bryce Harper missed a month of 353 00:17:57,760 --> 00:18:00,840 Speaker 1: the season and therefore his numbers volume wise weren't there. 354 00:18:01,200 --> 00:18:03,800 Speaker 1: But Bryce Harper being Bryce Harper is a talent, and 355 00:18:03,840 --> 00:18:06,280 Speaker 1: how they can improve that is that he's got to 356 00:18:06,320 --> 00:18:09,399 Speaker 1: get more pitches to hit. Last week I wrote a 357 00:18:09,400 --> 00:18:12,720 Speaker 1: little story about looking at his metrics, the advanced metrics, 358 00:18:12,720 --> 00:18:15,600 Speaker 1: the expected metrics, and how they were almost identical or 359 00:18:15,640 --> 00:18:19,840 Speaker 1: even better than they were in twenty twenty four. Expected 360 00:18:19,880 --> 00:18:23,640 Speaker 1: batting average, expected slug average, exit velocity, hard hit rate, 361 00:18:24,000 --> 00:18:26,760 Speaker 1: his strikeout rate was down, his walk rate was up, 362 00:18:27,160 --> 00:18:29,879 Speaker 1: all of that stuff, and then but then I also 363 00:18:29,920 --> 00:18:33,399 Speaker 1: put in the fact that he saw pitches in the 364 00:18:33,480 --> 00:18:36,120 Speaker 1: zone only forty three percent of the time last year, 365 00:18:36,680 --> 00:18:40,040 Speaker 1: five hundred and thirty second out of five hundred and 366 00:18:40,119 --> 00:18:42,800 Speaker 1: thirty two players in baseball this season that saw a 367 00:18:42,840 --> 00:18:46,120 Speaker 1: minimum of two hundred pitches. And the quote from Scott 368 00:18:46,160 --> 00:18:50,479 Speaker 1: was that's the stat that's the stat. He said, you 369 00:18:50,520 --> 00:18:54,359 Speaker 1: put gas in the tank, and the Harper meaning the 370 00:18:54,400 --> 00:18:56,160 Speaker 1: Ferrari works. 371 00:18:57,040 --> 00:19:00,000 Speaker 2: He thinks these these trend linus. 372 00:19:00,119 --> 00:19:01,040 Speaker 3: The word Smith. 373 00:19:03,080 --> 00:19:03,520 Speaker 2: I love it. 374 00:19:03,600 --> 00:19:07,080 Speaker 1: That was on the flight too, Scott, I'm using that. 375 00:19:07,720 --> 00:19:11,960 Speaker 3: Did he mention that he has two big fuel cans 376 00:19:12,480 --> 00:19:17,080 Speaker 3: in his stable, Fregman and Pete Alonso? 377 00:19:18,160 --> 00:19:19,560 Speaker 2: Pete? Absolutely? 378 00:19:19,680 --> 00:19:23,080 Speaker 1: Absolutely? Uh? You know so his his big thing was 379 00:19:23,600 --> 00:19:26,680 Speaker 1: and we've we we talked, we did, we talk about 380 00:19:26,720 --> 00:19:30,320 Speaker 1: a lot. Yeah, Jim was saying last week, I want Pete, 381 00:19:30,520 --> 00:19:31,920 Speaker 1: bring me Pe just. 382 00:19:31,920 --> 00:19:36,359 Speaker 3: Right hand back, give me I think a good, solid, productive, dangerous, 383 00:19:37,800 --> 00:19:40,040 Speaker 3: make you think right handed back. It would be Pete. 384 00:19:40,040 --> 00:19:41,959 Speaker 3: Pete would be just so perfect. I don't know if 385 00:19:42,000 --> 00:19:42,600 Speaker 3: they can do it. 386 00:19:43,000 --> 00:19:45,400 Speaker 2: Greg to the Mike Schmidt. 387 00:19:45,520 --> 00:19:47,960 Speaker 3: Oh, there you go, nice, Greg. 388 00:19:48,359 --> 00:19:49,280 Speaker 2: To the Mike Schmidt. 389 00:19:49,560 --> 00:19:51,119 Speaker 1: So I thought that was maybe one of the more 390 00:19:51,160 --> 00:19:53,159 Speaker 1: interesting they came out of this whole thing was with 391 00:19:53,200 --> 00:19:55,480 Speaker 1: Scott saying, what kind of staying out loud? What we've 392 00:19:55,480 --> 00:19:57,560 Speaker 1: been saying out loud, maybe what the Phillies haven't said 393 00:19:57,560 --> 00:20:00,800 Speaker 1: out loud is we got to get somebody hitting in 394 00:20:00,880 --> 00:20:03,600 Speaker 1: the cleanup spot. Now, no disrespect to anybody hitting the 395 00:20:03,600 --> 00:20:06,120 Speaker 1: cleanup spot this year, but Phillies cleanup hitters that last 396 00:20:06,200 --> 00:20:09,320 Speaker 1: season or this season had a combined seven to twenty 397 00:20:09,320 --> 00:20:12,520 Speaker 1: ops that ranked twentieth out of all teams in baseball 398 00:20:13,080 --> 00:20:16,200 Speaker 1: in terms of production. The cleanup spot, that's the Phillies. 399 00:20:16,200 --> 00:20:18,879 Speaker 1: That was the Phillies' least productive position based off of 400 00:20:18,960 --> 00:20:22,560 Speaker 1: ranking in Major League Baseball. Every other position they were 401 00:20:22,880 --> 00:20:28,360 Speaker 1: top I think fourteen, top five cleanup spot, though bottom 402 00:20:28,440 --> 00:20:31,760 Speaker 1: third in terms of production. So Scott says, hey, he 403 00:20:31,840 --> 00:20:34,679 Speaker 1: want Brice to hit, how about get him some production 404 00:20:34,800 --> 00:20:37,080 Speaker 1: back there. Maybe get him a couple more pitches over 405 00:20:37,119 --> 00:20:38,520 Speaker 1: the course of the season that he can knock out 406 00:20:38,520 --> 00:20:41,080 Speaker 1: of the ballpark or hit the opposite way to the wall. 407 00:20:41,520 --> 00:20:44,760 Speaker 3: He would have had more protection if another Boris client, 408 00:20:44,960 --> 00:20:49,480 Speaker 3: Alec Baum, had continued his ascension. You know, a lot 409 00:20:49,480 --> 00:20:52,200 Speaker 3: of doubles in twenty three and twenty four, a lot 410 00:20:52,200 --> 00:20:55,080 Speaker 3: of RBIs and it just leveled off. If not one 411 00:20:55,160 --> 00:20:58,040 Speaker 3: the other way in twenty twenty five, that was a 412 00:20:58,359 --> 00:20:59,480 Speaker 3: that was a killer in the lineup. 413 00:20:59,520 --> 00:21:02,560 Speaker 2: That a little bit of an indictment on his own player. 414 00:21:02,640 --> 00:21:07,680 Speaker 7: But I will also say there's some messaging there, obviously, 415 00:21:09,000 --> 00:21:14,000 Speaker 7: little messaging on Dombrowski side, little messaging on on the 416 00:21:14,080 --> 00:21:18,200 Speaker 7: Boris side, But there is some reality in the fact 417 00:21:18,200 --> 00:21:21,280 Speaker 7: that Harper just didn't have the type of protection it's necessary. Now, 418 00:21:21,280 --> 00:21:25,439 Speaker 7: do you think if you bring Kyle Schwarber back, do 419 00:21:25,560 --> 00:21:29,439 Speaker 7: you flip flop those guys in the lineup? I don't know. 420 00:21:30,920 --> 00:21:34,400 Speaker 7: It's a possibility. Do you split them up somehow? If 421 00:21:34,440 --> 00:21:37,720 Speaker 7: you have that big bat, that four hole hitter, can 422 00:21:37,760 --> 00:21:41,680 Speaker 7: you split them up somehow instead of going back to back. 423 00:21:42,520 --> 00:21:45,480 Speaker 7: There's a lot of things that you can consider. Do 424 00:21:45,600 --> 00:21:49,880 Speaker 7: you slide Schwarbur in the leadoff slot and then go Turner, Harper, 425 00:21:50,119 --> 00:21:55,159 Speaker 7: Alonso I don't know, or Bregman or somewhere you know, 426 00:21:55,320 --> 00:21:58,719 Speaker 7: some combination of those guys. I don't know if they 427 00:21:58,760 --> 00:22:01,920 Speaker 7: have the finance shall wherewithal to bring on in Alonso 428 00:22:02,000 --> 00:22:05,960 Speaker 7: or a Bregman. I hope that they do, because that 429 00:22:06,000 --> 00:22:08,680 Speaker 7: would make that top of the lineup just that would 430 00:22:08,720 --> 00:22:13,720 Speaker 7: be elite. But I will say that there is a 431 00:22:13,800 --> 00:22:17,240 Speaker 7: possibility that you may end up flip flopping. If they 432 00:22:17,240 --> 00:22:22,520 Speaker 7: go back to back lefties, they may flop Harper and Schwarber. 433 00:22:22,640 --> 00:22:25,880 Speaker 7: I don't know that. But protection is something it's real. 434 00:22:26,480 --> 00:22:28,879 Speaker 7: I mean, everybody watches it. I mean if you're sitting 435 00:22:28,880 --> 00:22:31,680 Speaker 7: there and you're a you're a manager, or you're a 436 00:22:31,720 --> 00:22:33,680 Speaker 7: pitching coach, and you see, okay, do I want to 437 00:22:33,720 --> 00:22:35,640 Speaker 7: pitch to that guy or do I have to say 438 00:22:35,680 --> 00:22:39,159 Speaker 7: that guy, And it makes it pretty obvious if the 439 00:22:39,200 --> 00:22:43,920 Speaker 7: guy behind Harper is not really responding, makes it difficult 440 00:22:43,960 --> 00:22:45,640 Speaker 7: for a guy to get pitches to hit. 441 00:22:46,119 --> 00:22:48,680 Speaker 3: One of the big reasons Schwarber blew up this year 442 00:22:48,720 --> 00:22:50,800 Speaker 3: had the great year he did. He had Harper behind him. 443 00:22:50,840 --> 00:22:54,240 Speaker 3: That certainly certainly helped. If you go back a year ago. 444 00:22:54,840 --> 00:22:57,800 Speaker 3: If you go back a year ago to Rob Thompson's 445 00:22:59,000 --> 00:23:02,080 Speaker 3: postseason press conference, he talked about taking schwarbur and putting 446 00:23:02,119 --> 00:23:05,439 Speaker 3: them forth behind behind Harper to protect Harper. This has 447 00:23:05,480 --> 00:23:08,680 Speaker 3: been a long standing issue. They thought about putting Harp 448 00:23:10,800 --> 00:23:13,640 Speaker 3: Schwarber there to protect them last year, and then it's 449 00:23:13,720 --> 00:23:17,399 Speaker 3: just kind of more often to Schwarber hitting where he 450 00:23:17,440 --> 00:23:21,680 Speaker 3: did Turner and then Schwarbren and Harper. So it's it's 451 00:23:21,720 --> 00:23:23,520 Speaker 3: a long standing issue, That's what I'm saying. 452 00:23:24,359 --> 00:23:26,920 Speaker 1: Harper in the postseason he saw pitches in his zone 453 00:23:26,960 --> 00:23:29,159 Speaker 1: only thirty nine point one percent of the time, so 454 00:23:29,200 --> 00:23:33,040 Speaker 1: it's even it was far a pretty good drop from 455 00:23:33,080 --> 00:23:36,880 Speaker 1: the regular season numbers. Now, what's what's interesting is that 456 00:23:37,359 --> 00:23:40,720 Speaker 1: I think Harp Schwarber hit behind Harper when in like 457 00:23:40,840 --> 00:23:43,560 Speaker 1: late April, early May, for a few weeks and the 458 00:23:43,640 --> 00:23:47,199 Speaker 1: numbers actually didn't improve. It's not like the numbers were 459 00:23:47,200 --> 00:23:50,480 Speaker 1: about the same in terms of pitches that Harper saw 460 00:23:50,520 --> 00:23:53,959 Speaker 1: on his zone. So do you think that if they 461 00:23:53,960 --> 00:23:56,320 Speaker 1: could get into Alonso or maybe put Schwarba back there 462 00:23:56,359 --> 00:23:58,520 Speaker 1: the entire season, you'd see those numbers go up. Because 463 00:23:58,560 --> 00:24:01,560 Speaker 1: I mean Bryce has said at least once, he's like, 464 00:24:02,160 --> 00:24:04,000 Speaker 1: it doesn't even matter who's hitting behind me, and they're 465 00:24:04,040 --> 00:24:06,960 Speaker 1: never gonna throw me strikes. But maybe that settles him 466 00:24:06,960 --> 00:24:09,840 Speaker 1: down over the long term. I don't know. Like that 467 00:24:09,960 --> 00:24:13,200 Speaker 1: short again, that short sample size of Schwarber hitting behind Harper, 468 00:24:13,200 --> 00:24:14,840 Speaker 1: the numbers really didn't change that much. 469 00:24:15,320 --> 00:24:17,040 Speaker 7: I think that was during the time. I think there 470 00:24:17,080 --> 00:24:19,520 Speaker 7: were some risk issues with him too, that could be 471 00:24:19,680 --> 00:24:21,879 Speaker 7: really swing the bat all that well and stuff. So 472 00:24:23,160 --> 00:24:25,760 Speaker 7: I think that's so sort of coincided. I think the 473 00:24:25,800 --> 00:24:28,600 Speaker 7: reason why he did is because he was not swinging 474 00:24:28,640 --> 00:24:30,639 Speaker 7: all that well. So maybe that was the reason why 475 00:24:31,200 --> 00:24:34,120 Speaker 7: Thompson did it, and it didn't really change much because 476 00:24:34,119 --> 00:24:36,520 Speaker 7: I think that Harper at the time wasn't really swing 477 00:24:36,520 --> 00:24:37,440 Speaker 7: the bat all that well. 478 00:24:38,480 --> 00:24:41,760 Speaker 1: In Harper's chase rate was up up the season, there 479 00:24:41,840 --> 00:24:44,439 Speaker 1: was such a closed career high. So maybe just the 480 00:24:44,480 --> 00:24:48,439 Speaker 1: patience of him. Maybe if he sees forty three percent 481 00:24:48,560 --> 00:24:51,880 Speaker 1: next season, if he has a big bopper hitting behind 482 00:24:51,960 --> 00:24:54,720 Speaker 1: him now, maybe he walks a few more times. Maybe 483 00:24:54,760 --> 00:24:56,880 Speaker 1: he's a little bit more patient, Maybe he doesn't chase 484 00:24:56,920 --> 00:24:59,399 Speaker 1: as much, so you know, in that regard, maybe that 485 00:24:59,400 --> 00:25:02,280 Speaker 1: helps him out as the mindset more or less, you know, 486 00:25:02,400 --> 00:25:04,840 Speaker 1: not you know, Sandial Contra is not going to throw 487 00:25:04,880 --> 00:25:07,159 Speaker 1: me more strikes now because kyleege Horber is hitting behind it. 488 00:25:07,200 --> 00:25:09,080 Speaker 1: But maybe I don't feel like I have to go 489 00:25:09,119 --> 00:25:13,919 Speaker 1: out and make something happen, force force, force, force myself 490 00:25:13,960 --> 00:25:16,359 Speaker 1: to swing at something and hit something, because I just 491 00:25:17,080 --> 00:25:18,760 Speaker 1: I want to do so well for the team. 492 00:25:19,359 --> 00:25:23,480 Speaker 7: So here's the thing about my observations. And I like 493 00:25:23,520 --> 00:25:26,040 Speaker 7: to study hitting a lot. It's something that I've always done, 494 00:25:26,080 --> 00:25:30,240 Speaker 7: even as a player as a kid, and I feel. 495 00:25:30,040 --> 00:25:31,840 Speaker 2: Like I'm a student of it. And what I. 496 00:25:32,119 --> 00:25:36,600 Speaker 7: Notice about Bryce Harper is that his progression as far 497 00:25:36,640 --> 00:25:39,840 Speaker 7: as an overall player is concerned, He's got he had 498 00:25:39,880 --> 00:25:43,760 Speaker 7: gotten for several years, gotten better and better at using 499 00:25:43,800 --> 00:25:44,879 Speaker 7: the opposite field. 500 00:25:45,760 --> 00:25:48,600 Speaker 2: And when he does that, it opens up the whole 501 00:25:48,640 --> 00:25:49,520 Speaker 2: world for him. 502 00:25:50,200 --> 00:25:52,159 Speaker 7: And so I mean, I talk about it on the 503 00:25:52,160 --> 00:25:56,240 Speaker 7: broadcast at times, sometimes on pre and post where for me, 504 00:25:57,000 --> 00:25:59,760 Speaker 7: if he stays in left center field and he stays 505 00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:03,640 Speaker 7: his thought process stays on the opposite field, he can 506 00:26:03,720 --> 00:26:07,000 Speaker 7: still get to the pitch inside because they don't challenge 507 00:26:07,080 --> 00:26:09,399 Speaker 7: him all that much inside part of the plate, and 508 00:26:09,440 --> 00:26:12,120 Speaker 7: when they do, they throw it off the plate on him. 509 00:26:12,119 --> 00:26:15,000 Speaker 7: So if he would stay in the middle of the 510 00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:18,440 Speaker 7: field more consistently, and he didn't do that last year, 511 00:26:18,480 --> 00:26:21,960 Speaker 7: he did it for like a lot less than he 512 00:26:22,119 --> 00:26:25,359 Speaker 7: had over the last three or four years, and so 513 00:26:25,480 --> 00:26:28,680 Speaker 7: I think some of the numbers just didn't translate because 514 00:26:29,160 --> 00:26:32,800 Speaker 7: I think he was so conscious of the pull side 515 00:26:32,880 --> 00:26:35,160 Speaker 7: and driving the ball out of the ballpark as opposed 516 00:26:35,200 --> 00:26:37,000 Speaker 7: to staying on it and driving it the other way. 517 00:26:37,280 --> 00:26:40,000 Speaker 7: He had that one game in San Francisco that I'll 518 00:26:40,040 --> 00:26:42,840 Speaker 7: never forget. He had like five hits the other way. 519 00:26:43,600 --> 00:26:49,399 Speaker 7: It bullets, I mean, rockets, runs and doubles in the 520 00:26:49,440 --> 00:26:52,399 Speaker 7: biggest ballpark in left center field in baseball. And so 521 00:26:53,000 --> 00:26:55,840 Speaker 7: when he stays there, he's going to have success. And 522 00:26:55,880 --> 00:26:58,680 Speaker 7: I think I keep thinking about the same thing. We've 523 00:26:58,680 --> 00:27:01,359 Speaker 7: talked about it already, the concentrations on hitting in the 524 00:27:01,359 --> 00:27:03,919 Speaker 7: middle of the field of hitting three hundred, his numbers 525 00:27:03,960 --> 00:27:05,040 Speaker 7: will all be there. 526 00:27:05,160 --> 00:27:08,080 Speaker 3: And take the walk, become a base frount he when 527 00:27:08,119 --> 00:27:11,439 Speaker 3: he's he's very exciting on the basis. 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The Philly Show is brought to 564 00:29:05,280 --> 00:29:06,600 Speaker 1: you by Fox one. 565 00:29:06,720 --> 00:29:07,040 Speaker 3: So yeah. 566 00:29:07,120 --> 00:29:11,160 Speaker 1: Dave Dombrowski was on Followed Territory on Thursday, talked to 567 00:29:11,200 --> 00:29:17,160 Speaker 1: Scott Brown and aj Prazinski and Eric Kratz, and he 568 00:29:17,320 --> 00:29:19,720 Speaker 1: was asked. We obviously spent most of the show talking 569 00:29:19,760 --> 00:29:23,280 Speaker 1: about Bryce, but he did offer this little update on 570 00:29:23,600 --> 00:29:26,000 Speaker 1: Zach Wheeler, and I thought it was kind of interesting 571 00:29:26,040 --> 00:29:26,479 Speaker 1: here we go. 572 00:29:26,560 --> 00:29:29,000 Speaker 4: Do you have an update on Wheeler where he's at 573 00:29:29,080 --> 00:29:31,840 Speaker 4: with his rehab, but also as far as where he's 574 00:29:31,880 --> 00:29:35,360 Speaker 4: at if this blood clot situation was completely taken care 575 00:29:35,400 --> 00:29:38,440 Speaker 4: of and won't reoccur after they took the rib out 576 00:29:38,440 --> 00:29:39,280 Speaker 4: in the thoracic out. 577 00:29:39,960 --> 00:29:42,040 Speaker 6: Yes, I do, because I saw him the other day 578 00:29:42,120 --> 00:29:44,240 Speaker 6: was actually down I think it was Tuesday, was down 579 00:29:44,240 --> 00:29:44,960 Speaker 6: in the clubhouse. 580 00:29:45,160 --> 00:29:47,240 Speaker 5: So he's going to be in Philadelphia all wintertime. 581 00:29:47,280 --> 00:29:51,080 Speaker 6: Our head athletic trainer, Paul Bukite was working with him 582 00:29:51,080 --> 00:29:53,520 Speaker 6: at that particular day, so I chatted with him. He 583 00:29:53,640 --> 00:29:57,160 Speaker 6: showed me a scars. He feels no pain, he said, 584 00:29:57,400 --> 00:30:00,200 Speaker 6: he feels great. They're now getting to the point where 585 00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:04,360 Speaker 6: they need some more flexibility with them, and they should. 586 00:30:04,400 --> 00:30:05,480 Speaker 5: This should have cleared it up. 587 00:30:05,520 --> 00:30:09,640 Speaker 6: They're not anticipating any setbacks, not expecting this to prow 588 00:30:09,720 --> 00:30:10,240 Speaker 6: once again. 589 00:30:10,600 --> 00:30:12,080 Speaker 5: So he's in a solid position now. 590 00:30:12,080 --> 00:30:14,520 Speaker 6: The timing will be it was given to us from 591 00:30:14,520 --> 00:30:18,000 Speaker 6: six to eight months that he will be ready again. 592 00:30:18,040 --> 00:30:21,000 Speaker 6: He's a gift gifted athlete. He's elite and who his 593 00:30:21,120 --> 00:30:24,520 Speaker 6: talent his jeans, just like Bryce is in that regard. 594 00:30:24,640 --> 00:30:27,480 Speaker 6: So we're hopeful it'll be on the front end, which 595 00:30:27,520 --> 00:30:29,760 Speaker 6: would even get him ready for opening Day. But right 596 00:30:29,800 --> 00:30:31,440 Speaker 6: now he's doing very good and he's going to stay 597 00:30:31,480 --> 00:30:33,960 Speaker 6: here all winter, committed to getting ready as soon as 598 00:30:34,000 --> 00:30:34,760 Speaker 6: he possibly can. 599 00:30:36,440 --> 00:30:38,520 Speaker 5: Wow hamanahamana. 600 00:30:39,240 --> 00:30:42,880 Speaker 2: Wow, that's not a little one. 601 00:30:45,160 --> 00:30:47,320 Speaker 3: That's great. Great to hear that he's doing well and 602 00:30:47,800 --> 00:30:51,520 Speaker 3: they have that projection for his return. It's an indicator 603 00:30:51,560 --> 00:30:54,400 Speaker 3: of how well he's doing and how good the prognosis is. 604 00:30:54,800 --> 00:30:58,240 Speaker 3: But I don't want him until mid May. I don't 605 00:30:58,280 --> 00:31:01,120 Speaker 3: want him to approaching you know, May. I'll say mid May, 606 00:31:01,160 --> 00:31:04,440 Speaker 3: after the Kentucky derby mid May, because I want him 607 00:31:04,480 --> 00:31:11,120 Speaker 3: to uh budget his innings and his firepower for October. 608 00:31:12,520 --> 00:31:14,320 Speaker 2: Do you want to do what the LA Dodgers are 609 00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:15,760 Speaker 2: doing with all of their guys. 610 00:31:15,920 --> 00:31:16,400 Speaker 3: They want to. 611 00:31:16,760 --> 00:31:19,960 Speaker 2: Burn back until the real important Well. 612 00:31:19,920 --> 00:31:21,560 Speaker 3: I want him to be. Yeah, I want to say 613 00:31:21,640 --> 00:31:22,680 Speaker 3: some of those over time. 614 00:31:22,840 --> 00:31:24,040 Speaker 2: The November time. 615 00:31:24,200 --> 00:31:26,360 Speaker 3: He's gonna be thirty six, he's coming off of major 616 00:31:26,400 --> 00:31:31,560 Speaker 3: surgery and health issue or whatever, And yeah, I don't listen. 617 00:31:31,600 --> 00:31:33,120 Speaker 2: I don't disagree with you because I. 618 00:31:33,120 --> 00:31:36,400 Speaker 7: Don't think that there's a whole I don't know that 619 00:31:36,640 --> 00:31:41,000 Speaker 7: the NL East is going to provide the kind of 620 00:31:41,200 --> 00:31:44,360 Speaker 7: challenge like they can sort of. I'm not saying take 621 00:31:44,400 --> 00:31:49,440 Speaker 7: the foot off the pedal, but I'm not sure that 622 00:31:49,600 --> 00:31:55,400 Speaker 7: the teams in the in the East, Miami, Washington, the 623 00:31:55,480 --> 00:31:59,520 Speaker 7: Mets are good, not great. I think they'll get a 624 00:31:59,520 --> 00:32:01,800 Speaker 7: little health fear so they'll be you know, there will 625 00:32:01,880 --> 00:32:05,160 Speaker 7: be challenging there. Atlanta will come back and be good, 626 00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:07,720 Speaker 7: there's no question about it in my mind, but they're 627 00:32:07,760 --> 00:32:10,480 Speaker 7: going through some transition with a new manager and some stuff. 628 00:32:11,520 --> 00:32:13,320 Speaker 7: I don't think they have to have the pedal to 629 00:32:13,400 --> 00:32:15,320 Speaker 7: the medal in the early part of the season. They've 630 00:32:15,400 --> 00:32:19,360 Speaker 7: seen that already. When they're better later, I think they're 631 00:32:19,400 --> 00:32:21,960 Speaker 7: better off. And I think that there's something to making 632 00:32:22,040 --> 00:32:25,680 Speaker 7: sure that these guys are one percent when it's time 633 00:32:25,760 --> 00:32:27,880 Speaker 7: in September October, and the. 634 00:32:27,960 --> 00:32:29,560 Speaker 2: Dodgers are a little bit. You know, we have a 635 00:32:29,920 --> 00:32:31,160 Speaker 2: copycat industry. 636 00:32:31,760 --> 00:32:34,520 Speaker 7: Don't rise if you don't see some other teams doing 637 00:32:34,560 --> 00:32:37,480 Speaker 7: the same thing, including the pills load management. 638 00:32:37,600 --> 00:32:41,520 Speaker 1: Baby, bring it to baseball, I know. 639 00:32:42,120 --> 00:32:44,840 Speaker 7: I don't know if it's load management as much as 640 00:32:44,880 --> 00:32:46,720 Speaker 7: it is protection. 641 00:32:47,280 --> 00:32:50,000 Speaker 3: But you know that's what when you know, Joe Jrowy 642 00:32:50,040 --> 00:32:52,040 Speaker 3: always used to say, I will not use the reliever 643 00:32:52,120 --> 00:32:54,600 Speaker 3: three days in a row. You can call that load management. 644 00:32:54,680 --> 00:32:57,400 Speaker 3: I call it. He said, until we get to down 645 00:32:57,440 --> 00:33:00,360 Speaker 3: the stretch September and October, I'll do it. And you 646 00:33:00,400 --> 00:33:02,560 Speaker 3: always say the prize is in October, and he was 647 00:33:02,600 --> 00:33:04,600 Speaker 3: budgeting for that, and he was one hundred percent. 648 00:33:04,640 --> 00:33:07,800 Speaker 1: Right, A absolutely absolutely. 649 00:33:07,840 --> 00:33:08,000 Speaker 9: I know. 650 00:33:08,080 --> 00:33:11,800 Speaker 1: It's you know, back in the day guys have pitch relievers, 651 00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:13,880 Speaker 1: it's seven days in a row. And as I go 652 00:33:14,440 --> 00:33:16,479 Speaker 1: back when men were men, it's like, come on, all right, 653 00:33:16,560 --> 00:33:16,960 Speaker 1: here we go. 654 00:33:17,440 --> 00:33:17,560 Speaker 2: Well. 655 00:33:17,600 --> 00:33:20,520 Speaker 7: The other thing we have to have to understand, too, 656 00:33:20,760 --> 00:33:25,120 Speaker 7: is that I think people are starting to realize that 657 00:33:25,240 --> 00:33:30,280 Speaker 7: the load that the bullpen folks are having to bear 658 00:33:31,120 --> 00:33:34,920 Speaker 7: is really a detrimental thing, and that the starting pitching 659 00:33:35,080 --> 00:33:38,240 Speaker 7: is really important. It really is important to have some 660 00:33:38,400 --> 00:33:41,719 Speaker 7: horses and some depth in the rotation so that they 661 00:33:41,760 --> 00:33:44,560 Speaker 7: can cover the innings that are necessary when you start firing. 662 00:33:44,640 --> 00:33:48,240 Speaker 7: Those those guys out there, they're seeing a lot. Their 663 00:33:48,360 --> 00:33:51,160 Speaker 7: arms blow up. They just those guys in the bullpen, 664 00:33:51,280 --> 00:33:54,560 Speaker 7: they just can't handle the workload. It's just too much 665 00:33:55,280 --> 00:33:57,760 Speaker 7: on the body with the way they throw the baseball now, 666 00:33:57,920 --> 00:34:02,760 Speaker 7: and having to have have guys eight innings in the 667 00:34:02,880 --> 00:34:06,880 Speaker 7: beginning of the game is a long term issue. You 668 00:34:07,120 --> 00:34:11,200 Speaker 7: gotta have starting pitching that can go more than four 669 00:34:11,320 --> 00:34:14,960 Speaker 7: innings or three and a half, because to cover six 670 00:34:15,120 --> 00:34:18,240 Speaker 7: or seven innings every single night in the major leagues 671 00:34:18,840 --> 00:34:21,680 Speaker 7: is detrimental, and people just don't have the kind of 672 00:34:21,760 --> 00:34:23,160 Speaker 7: depth that's necessary. 673 00:34:22,760 --> 00:34:23,279 Speaker 2: To cover them. 674 00:34:23,560 --> 00:34:25,399 Speaker 3: You have to protect you guys a little bit because 675 00:34:25,600 --> 00:34:28,759 Speaker 3: the max effort is a big thing. You want to 676 00:34:28,960 --> 00:34:32,520 Speaker 3: It just jumps out at you like it's World Series time. 677 00:34:32,600 --> 00:34:34,880 Speaker 3: So we're seeing a lot of old videos and highlights 678 00:34:34,920 --> 00:34:38,600 Speaker 3: of all World Series and I mean, you look at Larson. 679 00:34:38,760 --> 00:34:43,080 Speaker 3: The highlights from Larson in fifty was at fifty six, 680 00:34:43,280 --> 00:34:47,000 Speaker 3: and the highlights from when Masarowski hit the home run 681 00:34:47,640 --> 00:34:51,160 Speaker 3: to win the sixty World Series. These pitchers were barely 682 00:34:51,239 --> 00:34:53,799 Speaker 3: even pushing off the rubber. They were slinging the ball 683 00:34:54,000 --> 00:34:56,520 Speaker 3: all arm. You even go back to seventy five, the 684 00:34:56,600 --> 00:35:00,600 Speaker 3: Fisk game. You know, you know, guy Louis tan has 685 00:35:00,600 --> 00:35:03,920 Speaker 3: thrown one hundred and sixty pitches and but he's not 686 00:35:04,080 --> 00:35:06,960 Speaker 3: a max effort guy, and the relievers are not. You know, 687 00:35:07,200 --> 00:35:09,800 Speaker 3: you can just see relievers these days, max effort, the 688 00:35:09,960 --> 00:35:12,920 Speaker 3: push and the and the arm speed and the fire. 689 00:35:13,320 --> 00:35:15,839 Speaker 3: You you even watch relievers in that seventy five World Series. 690 00:35:15,880 --> 00:35:17,480 Speaker 3: A lot of the ms slinging the ball. A lot 691 00:35:17,520 --> 00:35:19,440 Speaker 3: of them are just laying laying the ball in there. 692 00:35:19,480 --> 00:35:21,440 Speaker 3: You look at the Bernie Carbo home run, which I've 693 00:35:21,440 --> 00:35:24,560 Speaker 3: seen a million times in the uh uh you know 694 00:35:24,680 --> 00:35:28,239 Speaker 3: this time of the year, the Cincinnati Red pitcher, he's 695 00:35:28,280 --> 00:35:30,640 Speaker 3: basically trying to he's laying the ball in there and work, 696 00:35:30,719 --> 00:35:34,080 Speaker 3: you know, using his defense. I guess right. Pitching has changed. 697 00:35:34,760 --> 00:35:37,480 Speaker 3: The max effort You gotta you gotta watch. 698 00:35:37,320 --> 00:35:39,480 Speaker 2: Guys, no question about it. 699 00:35:39,680 --> 00:35:43,080 Speaker 7: Yeah, there's there's this workload that's that's just too great 700 00:35:43,160 --> 00:35:45,000 Speaker 7: for the for the maximum effort for. 701 00:35:45,040 --> 00:35:51,080 Speaker 1: The body for the definitely great news that uh, Dave 702 00:35:51,200 --> 00:35:54,080 Speaker 1: Dombrowski thinks that will not be an issue and that 703 00:35:54,920 --> 00:35:57,759 Speaker 1: even if the Phillies do what Jim you kind of 704 00:35:57,800 --> 00:35:59,880 Speaker 1: hope they do is, which is take your time with that. 705 00:36:00,640 --> 00:36:02,719 Speaker 1: Even if they do that, the fact that they think 706 00:36:02,800 --> 00:36:04,840 Speaker 1: he might be in play to be ready by opening 707 00:36:04,920 --> 00:36:07,880 Speaker 1: day is a good sign because obviously no. 708 00:36:07,920 --> 00:36:09,880 Speaker 3: It's gonna be hard. It's gonna be hard, you know, 709 00:36:09,960 --> 00:36:11,880 Speaker 3: pulling in the reins on Zach. He's gonna be like 710 00:36:11,920 --> 00:36:14,640 Speaker 3: a bucking Bronco wanting to pitch on opening day. 711 00:36:15,320 --> 00:36:19,200 Speaker 7: Right, So you start, you start fantasizing a little bit 712 00:36:19,280 --> 00:36:21,560 Speaker 7: about the rotation. Right, you got Zach Wheeler, you got 713 00:36:21,600 --> 00:36:24,279 Speaker 7: the two left tenders and Lizardo and Sanchez. You have 714 00:36:24,480 --> 00:36:27,440 Speaker 7: Nola still and you're hoping that Nola bounces back, and 715 00:36:27,520 --> 00:36:29,520 Speaker 7: it's like, can pitch it like a solid number four 716 00:36:29,600 --> 00:36:31,719 Speaker 7: or number three, whatever the case, maybe four or five. 717 00:36:32,719 --> 00:36:37,320 Speaker 7: And then you also have Taiwan Walker still under under control. 718 00:36:37,440 --> 00:36:41,160 Speaker 7: Now you want to add some depth there somehow, some way. 719 00:36:41,719 --> 00:36:44,800 Speaker 7: You got Painter and he's a guy that adds a 720 00:36:44,840 --> 00:36:46,439 Speaker 7: little bit of depth. So if you end up having 721 00:36:46,680 --> 00:36:53,920 Speaker 7: six guys, now you're talking business, maybe a seventh that, yeah, 722 00:36:53,960 --> 00:36:55,799 Speaker 7: you got to have a seventh that you can sort 723 00:36:55,840 --> 00:36:58,759 Speaker 7: of count on. Uh, it'll be an exciting offseason as 724 00:36:58,800 --> 00:37:00,920 Speaker 7: far as the rotations, because I don't think it's going 725 00:37:00,960 --> 00:37:04,880 Speaker 7: to be Ranger Suarez, because I think the numbers are 726 00:37:05,000 --> 00:37:05,960 Speaker 7: going to play out for them. 727 00:37:06,160 --> 00:37:09,920 Speaker 2: But you never know, you never know. 728 00:37:10,239 --> 00:37:13,000 Speaker 1: So one last thing from Dave Dobrowski. He was asked 729 00:37:13,080 --> 00:37:15,200 Speaker 1: about the Phillies payroll. 730 00:37:15,360 --> 00:37:18,160 Speaker 6: Well, every owner is different. With whom I worked, John 731 00:37:18,200 --> 00:37:20,000 Speaker 6: and I stay in close contact with that. We know 732 00:37:20,120 --> 00:37:22,120 Speaker 6: it's a really big winter time for us, So we've 733 00:37:22,120 --> 00:37:26,439 Speaker 6: been talking about this for weeks and I propose something 734 00:37:26,480 --> 00:37:28,960 Speaker 6: to him. He's given me an approval on it. So 735 00:37:29,040 --> 00:37:31,080 Speaker 6: I know where my payroll is and it's still a 736 00:37:31,239 --> 00:37:34,560 Speaker 6: very hefty payroll. But I still think it's a challenge. 737 00:37:34,719 --> 00:37:36,200 Speaker 6: It's going to be hard to sign all of our 738 00:37:36,239 --> 00:37:39,160 Speaker 6: players just because there's so many of them, and we're 739 00:37:39,160 --> 00:37:42,799 Speaker 6: also challenged with some younger players that finally in our 740 00:37:42,880 --> 00:37:45,600 Speaker 6: system are ready to step in and play for us 741 00:37:45,640 --> 00:37:48,240 Speaker 6: after a couple whiles, a guy like Justin Crawford. 742 00:37:49,400 --> 00:37:51,359 Speaker 5: Andrew Pater we feel will be ready to play with us. 743 00:37:51,400 --> 00:37:51,719 Speaker 2: This year. 744 00:37:51,760 --> 00:37:53,800 Speaker 6: We've got a young kid by named Adan Miller that 745 00:37:53,960 --> 00:37:56,640 Speaker 6: was a number One pick, that's been very, very talented individuals. 746 00:37:56,760 --> 00:37:59,000 Speaker 6: So we're gonna have to it's gonna be a tough winner. 747 00:37:59,000 --> 00:38:00,440 Speaker 6: We're gonna have to do a lot of balancing. I 748 00:38:00,480 --> 00:38:01,920 Speaker 6: think we have a chance to still really have a 749 00:38:01,960 --> 00:38:03,880 Speaker 6: good club because I think we'll bring some of the 750 00:38:03,960 --> 00:38:07,480 Speaker 6: guys back. We'll have financial wherewithal and I think anytime 751 00:38:07,520 --> 00:38:10,240 Speaker 6: you can have a system, Wheeler should be back. Anytime 752 00:38:10,320 --> 00:38:12,600 Speaker 6: you can throw a Wheeler, you can throw Sanchez, you 753 00:38:12,640 --> 00:38:15,759 Speaker 6: can throw Blizardo, you can throw Nola as your top four. 754 00:38:16,520 --> 00:38:18,560 Speaker 6: No matter what happens with Sures, you're in pretty good 755 00:38:18,560 --> 00:38:19,440 Speaker 6: shape to move forward. 756 00:38:22,000 --> 00:38:24,000 Speaker 1: What's hefty in your mind? 757 00:38:24,400 --> 00:38:27,560 Speaker 2: Hefty payroll down? What was the final what was the 758 00:38:27,600 --> 00:38:28,239 Speaker 2: final number? 759 00:38:28,520 --> 00:38:30,880 Speaker 1: The final number I think for luxury tax purposes was 760 00:38:31,000 --> 00:38:33,800 Speaker 1: over Yeah, three thirteen ish something like that. 761 00:38:33,960 --> 00:38:36,960 Speaker 3: For the luxury tax purpose. I don't see it going down. 762 00:38:37,000 --> 00:38:37,759 Speaker 3: It can't go down. 763 00:38:38,000 --> 00:38:40,200 Speaker 7: I think it's going to be between three, you know, 764 00:38:40,440 --> 00:38:44,400 Speaker 7: three fifteen and three twenty five. And I'm going to 765 00:38:44,480 --> 00:38:47,520 Speaker 7: make a really strange prediction, maybe not so strange. I 766 00:38:47,600 --> 00:38:50,240 Speaker 7: don't think that they're you're going to have lost cost 767 00:38:50,560 --> 00:38:54,480 Speaker 7: in Castianos. I believe that's twenty million dollars. 768 00:38:54,920 --> 00:38:55,040 Speaker 3: Uh. 769 00:38:55,239 --> 00:38:59,400 Speaker 2: Can they shave five off of that? Three off of that? 770 00:38:59,560 --> 00:39:00,279 Speaker 2: Whatever the case? 771 00:39:00,360 --> 00:39:04,319 Speaker 7: Maybe maybe by moving him and you know, taking back 772 00:39:04,320 --> 00:39:07,520 Speaker 7: a lot of the money, there's gonna be a non 773 00:39:07,640 --> 00:39:08,560 Speaker 7: tender or two. 774 00:39:09,920 --> 00:39:10,560 Speaker 2: Or someone there. 775 00:39:10,560 --> 00:39:12,919 Speaker 7: They're going to trade an Alec Bohm type player because 776 00:39:12,920 --> 00:39:15,440 Speaker 7: Alex is probably gonna be I don't know as projected number. 777 00:39:15,360 --> 00:39:18,040 Speaker 3: Is, but I will over a little over ten. 778 00:39:18,080 --> 00:39:20,399 Speaker 7: I think IBE ten or eleven or twelve or something 779 00:39:20,480 --> 00:39:23,240 Speaker 7: like between ten and twelve. So I think you're gonna 780 00:39:23,280 --> 00:39:28,320 Speaker 7: see some some changes in those numbers just because and 781 00:39:28,560 --> 00:39:32,960 Speaker 7: some some moves. The fact that Rob Thompson says, you know, 782 00:39:33,080 --> 00:39:36,960 Speaker 7: Otto Kemp could be an everyday player. Uh, maybe he 783 00:39:37,120 --> 00:39:40,160 Speaker 7: becomes the new third baseman. Maybe they hope that that 784 00:39:40,400 --> 00:39:43,560 Speaker 7: Bobby Dickerson can work with him so much like he 785 00:39:43,680 --> 00:39:45,520 Speaker 7: did with Alec Bohm to get him to the point 786 00:39:45,520 --> 00:39:48,120 Speaker 7: where he's an addict with third baseman. Maybe they go 787 00:39:48,200 --> 00:39:51,560 Speaker 7: with a minimum salary guy there, Aiden Miller. Maybe he 788 00:39:51,640 --> 00:39:55,480 Speaker 7: starts to transition from short to third. A's at some 789 00:39:55,719 --> 00:39:59,719 Speaker 7: point at A at triple A. A lot of this 790 00:40:00,040 --> 00:40:02,840 Speaker 7: kind of stuff you made, you know, Bryson Stott not 791 00:40:03,000 --> 00:40:04,680 Speaker 7: going to make that much money. I don't think that 792 00:40:04,840 --> 00:40:07,680 Speaker 7: he's a non tender candidate. But when I say nontender, 793 00:40:07,760 --> 00:40:12,239 Speaker 7: it's it's you either trade him before December fifth, or 794 00:40:13,200 --> 00:40:16,840 Speaker 7: you consider not having that salary on your or something 795 00:40:16,920 --> 00:40:18,080 Speaker 7: that you know John. 796 00:40:17,920 --> 00:40:23,200 Speaker 2: Scherholds did with who was it? Where you go, I 797 00:40:23,239 --> 00:40:25,719 Speaker 2: can't pay this guy ten million dollars and I got 798 00:40:25,840 --> 00:40:27,840 Speaker 2: to move him for X and. 799 00:40:28,000 --> 00:40:31,440 Speaker 7: So you may see some of that stuff kind of 800 00:40:31,520 --> 00:40:33,799 Speaker 7: happen with some of the guys that are like those 801 00:40:33,960 --> 00:40:39,000 Speaker 7: mid tier salary guys to open up some possibilities that 802 00:40:39,160 --> 00:40:41,640 Speaker 7: maybe you can bring a Bregmann in, Maybe you can 803 00:40:41,800 --> 00:40:42,759 Speaker 7: bring an Alonzo in. 804 00:40:43,000 --> 00:40:45,160 Speaker 2: Maybe you can figure this, you know, piece of the 805 00:40:45,200 --> 00:40:46,839 Speaker 2: puzzle out. Who knows. 806 00:40:48,120 --> 00:40:51,400 Speaker 3: I think you kind of hit the two the two 807 00:40:51,480 --> 00:40:56,719 Speaker 3: most logical trade ships, Bom and Stot. Not in love 808 00:40:56,800 --> 00:40:59,560 Speaker 3: with the idea of moving Stott because where he is, 809 00:41:00,239 --> 00:41:02,400 Speaker 3: the salary structure and his defense, and I. 810 00:41:02,440 --> 00:41:04,800 Speaker 7: Don't want to move Stout because the salary and and 811 00:41:04,920 --> 00:41:06,040 Speaker 7: what he brings to the table. 812 00:41:06,080 --> 00:41:07,080 Speaker 2: I think he's a gamer. 813 00:41:07,800 --> 00:41:13,279 Speaker 7: I'm Alex Bahum, is Alec Bohm fungible? Maybe from what 814 00:41:13,400 --> 00:41:17,480 Speaker 7: he brings to the table good player, really good player? 815 00:41:18,040 --> 00:41:18,760 Speaker 2: Does he really. 816 00:41:18,680 --> 00:41:22,760 Speaker 7: Protect Harper in the lineup? Is he somebody that somebody 817 00:41:22,840 --> 00:41:25,839 Speaker 7: had covets? I think I got to believe. So he's 818 00:41:25,880 --> 00:41:28,680 Speaker 7: a talented players. That's some He's had some really good 819 00:41:28,800 --> 00:41:32,239 Speaker 7: years ninety plus RBIs a couple of years in a 820 00:41:32,360 --> 00:41:35,240 Speaker 7: row and can rack up some doubles. 821 00:41:35,320 --> 00:41:36,840 Speaker 2: Not going to hit the ball out of the ballpark 822 00:41:36,880 --> 00:41:37,160 Speaker 2: all that. 823 00:41:37,280 --> 00:41:40,520 Speaker 7: Often hasn't you know, really reached that power potential. But 824 00:41:42,080 --> 00:41:44,160 Speaker 7: I mean there's some movable parts. I'm not trying to 825 00:41:44,160 --> 00:41:46,080 Speaker 7: get rid of the guy. I'm just feeling like there's 826 00:41:46,560 --> 00:41:50,000 Speaker 7: there's ways to uh to revamp this lineup and revamp 827 00:41:50,080 --> 00:41:51,920 Speaker 7: the team a little bit, and sometimes you have to 828 00:41:52,040 --> 00:41:53,560 Speaker 7: do something a little different. 829 00:41:53,800 --> 00:41:55,120 Speaker 3: BOM's got a lot of strengths. 830 00:41:55,719 --> 00:41:57,440 Speaker 2: I think he's made. 831 00:41:57,440 --> 00:42:00,759 Speaker 7: There's really a very very solid third which I didn't 832 00:42:00,760 --> 00:42:02,080 Speaker 7: think whatever happened to. 833 00:42:02,160 --> 00:42:04,720 Speaker 3: Me that he's got to be in the right lineup. 834 00:42:04,800 --> 00:42:07,560 Speaker 3: He's not a guy I think that can drive the 835 00:42:07,640 --> 00:42:10,120 Speaker 3: boss or even sit in the first seat. But you know, 836 00:42:10,600 --> 00:42:14,200 Speaker 3: you put him in a little bit in the middle, 837 00:42:14,280 --> 00:42:17,440 Speaker 3: take some heat off them. I think you've got a 838 00:42:17,520 --> 00:42:20,120 Speaker 3: really good contributing player to a good team. 839 00:42:20,560 --> 00:42:24,000 Speaker 2: Could be a Milwaukee Milwaukee Brewer at first base next. 840 00:42:23,840 --> 00:42:30,800 Speaker 1: Year, makes sense, Yeah, I mean, yeah, I can see that. 841 00:42:31,080 --> 00:42:33,600 Speaker 7: I'm just tossing it out there, or or it could 842 00:42:33,640 --> 00:42:36,920 Speaker 7: be a Cleveland Guardian at first base or something like that. 843 00:42:37,520 --> 00:42:39,399 Speaker 1: Yeah, but if you're gonna shake things up, that's that's 844 00:42:39,440 --> 00:42:41,399 Speaker 1: the place to start, you know. Well, that's the place 845 00:42:41,440 --> 00:42:43,359 Speaker 1: I think a lot of people will look in terms 846 00:42:43,400 --> 00:42:49,320 Speaker 1: of moving guys. So, guys, where do we World Series starts? 847 00:42:49,360 --> 00:42:54,640 Speaker 1: Friday night? Balls back on the on the tube, we 848 00:42:54,719 --> 00:42:54,880 Speaker 1: have a. 849 00:42:57,840 --> 00:43:02,920 Speaker 3: Well. My prediction is Dodger in five, Freddie Freeman MVP, 850 00:43:03,760 --> 00:43:07,279 Speaker 3: and he publicly thanks Dave Dombrowski for motivating him. 851 00:43:11,200 --> 00:43:16,000 Speaker 2: I'm gonna say Dodgers will crush. It won't be in four, 852 00:43:16,080 --> 00:43:16,759 Speaker 2: will be in five. 853 00:43:18,480 --> 00:43:23,680 Speaker 7: And Mookie Betts my favorite player probably in baseball. 854 00:43:24,600 --> 00:43:27,000 Speaker 2: Freddy Freeman is probably one or two. Also the number 855 00:43:27,080 --> 00:43:27,320 Speaker 2: one A. 856 00:43:30,040 --> 00:43:35,840 Speaker 7: Mookie Betsman's the MVP, playing great shortstop and uh scores 857 00:43:35,960 --> 00:43:37,640 Speaker 7: like twelve runs. 858 00:43:41,480 --> 00:43:42,000 Speaker 5: Great point. 859 00:43:42,080 --> 00:43:44,239 Speaker 1: Do you think do you think Freddy Freeman sitting there 860 00:43:44,320 --> 00:43:50,160 Speaker 1: going what my catching? I gonna walk off Grand Slam 861 00:43:50,239 --> 00:43:51,600 Speaker 1: in the World Series last year? 862 00:43:51,680 --> 00:43:55,239 Speaker 2: What? What the hell's going on? Do you think you 863 00:43:55,320 --> 00:43:56,280 Speaker 2: picked up the papers? 864 00:43:56,320 --> 00:43:58,600 Speaker 3: And how did I make it it to that press conference? 865 00:43:59,120 --> 00:44:05,360 Speaker 2: Why am I? What the hell? Funny? So funny, trap trapnel. 866 00:44:05,680 --> 00:44:08,719 Speaker 3: Freddy is the nicest guy in baseball. We're standing there 867 00:44:08,760 --> 00:44:10,800 Speaker 3: in the runway. Last year, he's. 868 00:44:10,760 --> 00:44:14,719 Speaker 11: Outside the Phillies clubhouse, a bunch of reporters and he 869 00:44:14,840 --> 00:44:19,920 Speaker 11: walks right over with this big, genuine smile and shakes 870 00:44:20,000 --> 00:44:22,640 Speaker 11: todds of Lucky's hand like it was his long lost buddy. 871 00:44:23,160 --> 00:44:25,200 Speaker 2: He's the best man. I love Freddy he is. 872 00:44:25,360 --> 00:44:26,279 Speaker 3: He's a nice guy. 873 00:44:26,560 --> 00:44:29,280 Speaker 7: He's a good and a good man, a great player 874 00:44:29,360 --> 00:44:32,640 Speaker 7: and a Hall of Fame person and player and uh in. 875 00:44:32,680 --> 00:44:35,160 Speaker 3: The MVP of the twenty twenty five World Series. 876 00:44:35,600 --> 00:44:39,440 Speaker 2: Dude, he's a man, I mean, total legend. 877 00:44:39,480 --> 00:44:42,480 Speaker 7: And me it was nineteen I saw him taking ground 878 00:44:42,560 --> 00:44:45,200 Speaker 7: balls at the Wide World of Sports. 879 00:44:45,640 --> 00:44:50,440 Speaker 1: It would uh during the NLC NLDS. We're at Dodger 880 00:44:50,520 --> 00:44:53,160 Speaker 1: Stadium and it was mac alb and I were talking 881 00:44:53,239 --> 00:44:55,720 Speaker 1: with Jeff Frank Krer and we were just talking about 882 00:44:56,640 --> 00:44:59,680 Speaker 1: guys on the Dodgers and just in baseball and and French. 883 00:44:59,719 --> 00:45:02,239 Speaker 1: He said something, I'm like, Yeah, who else would you pick? 884 00:45:02,320 --> 00:45:06,440 Speaker 1: He says for me, Game seven of the World Series, 885 00:45:07,239 --> 00:45:11,400 Speaker 1: two outs, bottom of ninth inning, winning runs on third base. 886 00:45:11,800 --> 00:45:12,400 Speaker 2: Something like that. 887 00:45:12,600 --> 00:45:16,279 Speaker 1: He's like the player I want at the plate more 888 00:45:16,320 --> 00:45:19,160 Speaker 1: than anybody else in baseball. If I if my life 889 00:45:19,280 --> 00:45:21,160 Speaker 1: was on the line, my family's life was on the line, 890 00:45:21,239 --> 00:45:23,480 Speaker 1: I needed a base hit. I want Freddy Freeman at 891 00:45:23,520 --> 00:45:23,799 Speaker 1: the plate. 892 00:45:23,960 --> 00:45:24,400 Speaker 2: Amen. 893 00:45:24,960 --> 00:45:27,239 Speaker 1: Do you not disagree with him? How many times at 894 00:45:27,280 --> 00:45:30,560 Speaker 1: Citizens Bank Park. Have you seen him just knock a 895 00:45:30,600 --> 00:45:32,440 Speaker 1: base a base hit the left field. 896 00:45:32,600 --> 00:45:35,719 Speaker 2: So he sort of reminded me. Yeah, he reminded me 897 00:45:35,800 --> 00:45:38,400 Speaker 2: of like the Chipper Jones when he was Chipper was 898 00:45:38,440 --> 00:45:40,239 Speaker 2: in Atlanta. Like I felt like. 899 00:45:40,400 --> 00:45:44,560 Speaker 7: Chipper Jones was the guy when I was playing against 900 00:45:44,640 --> 00:45:47,880 Speaker 7: him and such, where he was the kid and the 901 00:45:47,960 --> 00:45:51,200 Speaker 7: young and the player that with the game on the line, Man, 902 00:45:51,400 --> 00:45:52,080 Speaker 7: he's the dude. 903 00:45:52,560 --> 00:45:54,440 Speaker 3: And you know, Mike, one of my I have a 904 00:45:54,520 --> 00:45:57,279 Speaker 3: lot of great memories watching him play. That swing is 905 00:45:57,360 --> 00:46:00,480 Speaker 3: so consistent and powerful. But one of my big memories 906 00:46:00,480 --> 00:46:02,520 Speaker 3: of Freddie Freeman, it might have been his rookie years, 907 00:46:02,560 --> 00:46:06,520 Speaker 3: a very young player in twenty eleven. You both were 908 00:46:06,560 --> 00:46:08,080 Speaker 3: at the game. We were all at the game in 909 00:46:08,160 --> 00:46:12,719 Speaker 3: Turner Field the night the uh Phillies. You know, I 910 00:46:12,760 --> 00:46:14,279 Speaker 3: think it was the last night of the season in 911 00:46:14,360 --> 00:46:17,200 Speaker 3: twenty eleven, the Phillies hundred and second win knocked the 912 00:46:17,520 --> 00:46:22,720 Speaker 3: knock the Braves out of the playoffs, and Freddy Freeman 913 00:46:22,800 --> 00:46:24,400 Speaker 3: it made the last out, I think it made a 914 00:46:24,480 --> 00:46:27,160 Speaker 3: double player or ground out, and he crossed first base 915 00:46:27,320 --> 00:46:30,200 Speaker 3: knowing that they had been eliminated from playoff contention and 916 00:46:30,360 --> 00:46:32,600 Speaker 3: he spiked his helmet. You could hear it all over 917 00:46:32,640 --> 00:46:34,320 Speaker 3: the ballpark. I don't know if you guys remember that, 918 00:46:34,560 --> 00:46:36,359 Speaker 3: but I can still see it in my mind's eye 919 00:46:36,400 --> 00:46:38,040 Speaker 3: and I can hear it all over the ballpark. 920 00:46:38,440 --> 00:46:38,760 Speaker 2: Guys. 921 00:46:38,800 --> 00:46:42,840 Speaker 1: A winner, man, he is elite. My predictions, as you 922 00:46:42,880 --> 00:46:45,200 Speaker 1: guys say all said Dodgers in five, I'm gonna say 923 00:46:45,239 --> 00:46:47,520 Speaker 1: Dodgers in six. And I don't know how the pitching 924 00:46:47,600 --> 00:46:50,640 Speaker 1: is lining up, but I'm gonna say Blake Snell. 925 00:46:50,640 --> 00:46:56,360 Speaker 2: World Series, good call. Yeah, right now, So I'm. 926 00:46:56,200 --> 00:46:59,080 Speaker 1: Gonna say Blake Snell. I'm gonna say Blake Snell shuts 927 00:46:59,120 --> 00:47:02,200 Speaker 1: down Vladdie Laddie Junior. Although I think it's a fun series, 928 00:47:02,239 --> 00:47:03,919 Speaker 1: there's a lot of reasons they're root for. The Blue 929 00:47:04,000 --> 00:47:06,800 Speaker 1: Jays haven't won the World Series since ninety three. I 930 00:47:06,880 --> 00:47:09,200 Speaker 1: think it's a fun series. I'm looking forward to watching it. 931 00:47:09,360 --> 00:47:11,080 Speaker 2: So while you play the games, baby. 932 00:47:11,200 --> 00:47:14,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm room for a little you know, I just 933 00:47:14,160 --> 00:47:16,279 Speaker 3: room for a good series. A lot of great storylines 934 00:47:16,320 --> 00:47:20,120 Speaker 3: on the Blue Jays side. I like their manager, kind 935 00:47:20,160 --> 00:47:23,120 Speaker 3: of a local guy playing N's great guy at u 936 00:47:23,200 --> 00:47:26,239 Speaker 3: D and I saw him playing college because he's a 937 00:47:26,280 --> 00:47:30,840 Speaker 3: teammate of Vince Fukevich and I like Don Mattingly. I 938 00:47:30,880 --> 00:47:32,839 Speaker 3: think he's one of the classiest guys in baseball. I'd 939 00:47:32,840 --> 00:47:35,200 Speaker 3: love to see him have a, you know, a great experience. 940 00:47:35,440 --> 00:47:37,759 Speaker 7: He Don Manningly get another chance to manage, because I 941 00:47:37,800 --> 00:47:39,359 Speaker 7: think he did a hell of a job over there 942 00:47:39,400 --> 00:47:43,160 Speaker 7: with the Marlins in a really difficult situation. I thought 943 00:47:43,200 --> 00:47:46,920 Speaker 7: he was a very very good manager for them. Love 944 00:47:46,960 --> 00:47:49,200 Speaker 7: to see him get another opportunity. It's great to see 945 00:47:49,280 --> 00:47:51,400 Speaker 7: him get to the World Series. 946 00:47:51,560 --> 00:47:51,920 Speaker 2: Finally. 947 00:47:52,520 --> 00:47:55,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, it was awesome, very cool, very cool guys. That 948 00:47:55,200 --> 00:47:58,400 Speaker 1: was a lot of fun. Thanks to everybody for watching 949 00:47:58,480 --> 00:48:02,120 Speaker 1: and listening, and we will be back next week. 950 00:48:03,440 --> 00:48:05,720 Speaker 2: Smell you later, boys, Smell you James. 951 00:48:06,040 --> 00:48:08,200 Speaker 1: The Philly Show is brought to you by the Foul 952 00:48:08,360 --> 00:48:11,560 Speaker 1: Territory Network. Subscribe to The Philly Show on YouTube and 953 00:48:11,640 --> 00:48:13,200 Speaker 1: wherever you get your podcasts.