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Speaker 2: that out of the way, I have a darker news

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Speaker 2: story to share. I took myself to lunch during a

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Speaker 2: This energy I have is interesting to Matternie. I want

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Speaker 2: So now my little difficulty is also yours. I'm putting

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Speaker 2: It's Bowen Yang Bowen. Welcome to I said, nokid, thank

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Speaker 3: I feel like it would not have necessarily been a

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Speaker 3: If this was a casual lunch with a close friend,

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Speaker 2: You know, but see, I think business lunch icebreaker. Okay,

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Speaker 2: you know everybody pities you. You actually then kind of

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Speaker 3: You manipulate. How did do the outfit change involve you? Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Maybe no one, maybe maybe everyone. Sure how many people?

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Speaker 2: And this is a very now. It isn't for public consumption.

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Speaker 3: I'm in a hotel in Burbank, California.

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Speaker 2: It's a kind of like nineteen eighty three sophisticated.

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Speaker 3: Let's see, I just got over a stomach bug. That

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Speaker 2: I was like, your body is truly evacuating every space

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Speaker 3: And I was like, and I probably felt it from

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Speaker 2: Tell me, Well, with food poisoning we're talking about or

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Speaker 2: my question? Somebody is that like airborne? Is that bacteria?

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Speaker 3: It's like a not washing your hand situation.

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Speaker 2: I looked it up.

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Speaker 3: It seems like it seems like I must have gotten

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Speaker 3: it from a spoiled chicken. But but you're saying that is

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Speaker 3: but you're saying that is correlated to food pisoning. It

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Speaker 3: I thank you for correcting my diagnos, keeping you honest.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I do feel like a food poisoning is something

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Speaker 2: that can't go beyond twenty four hours. Here. Actually, I'm

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Speaker 2: now recalling a food poisoning situation that lasted for three

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Speaker 3: That's your fault. Yeah, where was this?

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Speaker 3: No, Okay, but see, I think you and I share

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Speaker 3: How I don't know, but they like there's one restaurant

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Speaker 3: This is what I'm saying.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you're not just like finding fish out in the

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Speaker 3: I would love for her to be. Is there a

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Speaker 2: I mean, I think there's something there's there's always something very.

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Speaker 3: Beautiful to me. I sound like such a fucking tourist,

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Speaker 2: There is something? I mean, you're not going to see

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Speaker 3: Which is fine, which is horrifying. It's not like a

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Speaker 3: Very Steinbeck. I was gonna say, it's very Utah.

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Speaker 2: It's very Colorado, right, kind of rugged frontier, huh. And

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Speaker 2: you how much time have you have you ever lived

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Speaker 2: Just like, we gotta we gotta leave New York, right.

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Speaker 2: I don't know. I'm recovering from you saying the first

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Speaker 3: I listened, I didn't. I that's not the I'm not

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Speaker 2: You're just better at dealing with it, I suppose, or.

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Speaker 3: So then so wow, you you didn't you? You so far?

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Speaker 2: No far, Oh see, I did it again. I'm not

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Speaker 2: even I'm just letting it all be one year. It

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Speaker 3: Yeah, God, chilling right like it is. It is sad

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Speaker 3: but is there any part of you that misses that time? No?

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Speaker 2: Okay, great, I mean maybe five years from now there

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Speaker 3: What are we going to do?

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Speaker 2: Bridger?

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Speaker 3: What's going on in your life? And I feel like

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Speaker 3: I've caught Pokemon fever. Are you playing Archaeas? Are you playing?

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Speaker 2: I haven't played Pokemon maybe since Game Boy Advance. I

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Speaker 3: Guess what it's because it's been the same game since

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Speaker 3: Game Boy Advance until now, and now it's a whole

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Speaker 2: Are you not that far? I just recently I've gotten

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Speaker 3: I believe it?

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Speaker 2: Yes, yes, How far into it are you?

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Speaker 3: I'm just I'm not that far either. I think I'm

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Speaker 2: I did this. This is what I've done. Okay, okay, okay,

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Speaker 3: It two okay, But then but then the game is

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Speaker 2: Lost me well, and the game kind of promised I was.

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Speaker 2: I was hoping to see, you know, meatball shaped objects,

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Speaker 3: They were bagged, and I wanted to see the food

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Speaker 2: I mean, I don't even know that it even told

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Speaker 2: left to the imagination, which feels like, you know, failing

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Speaker 3: I recently went on a tire rate on my own

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Speaker 3: podcast about how some of the redesigns are truly truly horrid,

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Speaker 3: such as such as okay, so in the fourth generation,

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Speaker 3: But they've made Gudra look stoned and depressed. It's truly

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Speaker 3: And I think the cell shading in the game and

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Speaker 2: Look, Pokemon is one of the most successful gaming game

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Speaker 2: make it look wonderful. I'll never understand that.

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Speaker 3: Neither will I. Did you play Breath of the Wild?

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Speaker 2: Of course?

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Speaker 3: Okay, great? And I feel like the game is so

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Speaker 2: You know, it really feels like they found like a

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Speaker 2: if we just make it look worse, no one will notice. Yes, yes, yes,

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Speaker 2: but you know, I think whatever's happening with the Pokemon people,

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Speaker 2: like two thousand and four, that's all they have to

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Speaker 2: And I love to collect the Pokemon.

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Speaker 3: Oh, it's been more fun than ever. I really am

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think we should be very clear about that.

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Speaker 2: This game should be purchased. It should be Yes, absolutely,

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Speaker 2: do you name your Pokemon?

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Speaker 3: I used to, and for some reason in this game,

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Speaker 3: the whole I don't know you. I find it that

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Speaker 2: I'm not in the time because you do have to manually,

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Speaker 3: Exactly so I've only renamed three of them.

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Speaker 2: Right. In the old games, you catch it and it

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Speaker 3: It puts you on the spot, and you're kind of like, well,

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Speaker 3: I guess I get I better do it now, because

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Speaker 3: I won't I won't have the sort of I don't

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Speaker 2: Right right, Yeah, I remember I think I had Pokemon

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Speaker 2: It was very early gay behavior, naming every Pokemon with

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Speaker 2: and I wish that they would allow that to just

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Speaker 2: that's one of the most important parts of the game

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Speaker 3: Well, they make it a really tertiary part of the

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Speaker 3: so don't don't even bother. I don't like that because

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Speaker 2: It gives it some dignity, dignity above all. Ol. This

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Speaker 3: Common rodents? Are you you have? You have you picked

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Speaker 3: up on like a naming style convention mentality right now?

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Speaker 2: Because again I think I've named four of them. Because

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Speaker 2: it's a giant pain, yes, yes, huge pain, huge pain,

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Speaker 2: and you forget about it and you have all these

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Speaker 2: I'm brought to have to buy a baby naming book

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Speaker 2: or something. That's actually not a bad idea, going to

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Speaker 3: I did see someone on Instagram name they're they're like

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Speaker 3: cherished Pokemon after real housewives, specifically of Salt Lake City speaking.

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Speaker 3: Oh my god, so there was one I'm quillfish that

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Speaker 3: Do we dare assign each of them a Pokemon?

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Speaker 2: I feel like that is going to be some territory.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, let's not bother. I'm glad we both checked

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00:22:23,160 --> 00:22:28,200
Speaker 3: ourselves that could that path could become dangerous almost.

437
00:22:27,960 --> 00:22:32,640
Speaker 2: Immediately, very very very dangerous. I mean, but Salt Lake.

438
00:22:33,320 --> 00:22:35,480
Speaker 2: The thing's going on on that show.

439
00:22:36,240 --> 00:22:38,800
Speaker 3: We talked about salt We talked about that show on

440
00:22:38,800 --> 00:22:41,360
Speaker 3: on my podcast pretty recently, and not that much time

441
00:22:41,400 --> 00:22:43,200
Speaker 3: has passed, and yet it feels like so many things

442
00:22:43,200 --> 00:22:47,360
Speaker 3: have happened, and I'm sure, like, yeah.

443
00:22:47,240 --> 00:22:49,240
Speaker 2: I haven't had a chance to talk to anyone about

444
00:22:49,520 --> 00:22:54,639
Speaker 2: I mean, the most famous moment with Lisa Barlow, the Darkness.

445
00:22:54,560 --> 00:22:57,359
Speaker 3: The Darkness Bridger. I want you to think about a

446
00:22:57,400 --> 00:23:00,840
Speaker 3: friend you've had for ten years that about you.

447
00:23:01,480 --> 00:23:04,600
Speaker 2: Isn't that wild. I mean, yeah, even someone that you

448
00:23:04,720 --> 00:23:09,640
Speaker 2: don't know calling you a garbage wore? What? What? What?

449
00:23:09,840 --> 00:23:14,240
Speaker 3: Also, my friend's pointing out something very very interesting, which

450
00:23:14,280 --> 00:23:17,640
Speaker 3: is that like multiple house iives have done this thing

451
00:23:17,640 --> 00:23:19,919
Speaker 3: of saying she doesn't she doesn't even own her house

452
00:23:20,080 --> 00:23:22,480
Speaker 3: or like you know, she doesn't even have a house.

453
00:23:22,720 --> 00:23:24,800
Speaker 3: And that's never like the burn that they think it

454
00:23:24,840 --> 00:23:26,680
Speaker 3: is because for most of us, watch for most of

455
00:23:26,760 --> 00:23:29,639
Speaker 3: us non homeowners were like, yeah, neither do I.

456
00:23:31,040 --> 00:23:34,720
Speaker 2: She's renting a place that is beyond my imagination. Yes,

457
00:23:34,960 --> 00:23:39,200
Speaker 2: so that rental, Yeah, that rental is like insane. It's

458
00:23:39,240 --> 00:23:42,040
Speaker 2: in like Park City, that's a very expensive place to

459
00:23:42,080 --> 00:23:45,520
Speaker 2: mental exactly. My I just had this explained to me

460
00:23:45,560 --> 00:23:47,680
Speaker 2: because I was so I was like, who is Lisa

461
00:23:47,720 --> 00:23:50,760
Speaker 2: barlow talking to? I mean, I was imagining her, like

462
00:23:51,000 --> 00:23:54,280
Speaker 2: my in my hope of hopes was that she entered

463
00:23:54,280 --> 00:23:56,800
Speaker 2: that room there was kind of like a mysterious mirror

464
00:23:56,840 --> 00:23:58,919
Speaker 2: that suddenly there was an evil version of her in

465
00:23:59,280 --> 00:24:02,200
Speaker 2: and she was having conversation with you know, the other

466
00:24:02,400 --> 00:24:05,560
Speaker 2: Lisa Barlowe. But apparently like the producer is in that

467
00:24:05,640 --> 00:24:08,840
Speaker 2: room and she's talking to him as she's like disrobing.

468
00:24:09,480 --> 00:24:12,320
Speaker 2: I don't understand what's going on. Yeah, I mean the

469
00:24:12,400 --> 00:24:15,280
Speaker 2: explanation that was made to me was there are producers.

470
00:24:15,680 --> 00:24:17,840
Speaker 2: I hope I'm not, you know, ruining the show for anyone,

471
00:24:17,960 --> 00:24:20,240
Speaker 2: but like when someone storms off that they try to

472
00:24:20,280 --> 00:24:21,800
Speaker 2: talk them down because they could get in the way

473
00:24:21,800 --> 00:24:23,520
Speaker 2: of the storyline.

474
00:24:22,840 --> 00:24:26,840
Speaker 3: Because they're because the stories are being produced by someone.

475
00:24:26,800 --> 00:24:30,080
Speaker 2: Right, so there's somebody waiting there. Although for the producer

476
00:24:30,160 --> 00:24:32,040
Speaker 2: that must be like, well, this is way better than

477
00:24:32,040 --> 00:24:35,280
Speaker 2: our storyline. Sure, so I guess that you kind of

478
00:24:35,280 --> 00:24:37,200
Speaker 2: prod and poke and say, well, what do you think

479
00:24:37,200 --> 00:24:41,920
Speaker 2: about Meredith's infidelity, and then you just let her get into.

480
00:24:41,720 --> 00:24:45,960
Speaker 3: It totally, totally. I just feel like I'm surprised that

481
00:24:46,040 --> 00:24:49,879
Speaker 3: they haven't done this more often in the past, because

482
00:24:50,000 --> 00:24:52,879
Speaker 3: it feels like someone that that's just like a perfectly

483
00:24:53,040 --> 00:24:58,120
Speaker 3: rife territory for people to just like unload.

484
00:24:58,440 --> 00:25:01,119
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I do you have. I don't know that

485
00:25:01,160 --> 00:25:03,399
Speaker 2: I've ever heard, I mean outside of you know, like

486
00:25:03,440 --> 00:25:08,439
Speaker 2: the leaked Mel Gibson tapes audio that violently angry's like,

487
00:25:08,520 --> 00:25:08,840
Speaker 2: we're going.

488
00:25:08,840 --> 00:25:11,080
Speaker 3: To compare Lisa to mel Gibson. She's just kind of

489
00:25:11,080 --> 00:25:16,480
Speaker 3: a mel Gibson type. Yes, yes, it's absolutely. You know,

490
00:25:16,880 --> 00:25:20,480
Speaker 3: I feel like I still relate to Lisa more than

491
00:25:20,480 --> 00:25:24,080
Speaker 3: ever really how so well, I just I just think

492
00:25:24,119 --> 00:25:27,879
Speaker 3: it's really flipped this year, this season, where last season

493
00:25:27,920 --> 00:25:32,119
Speaker 3: I was really on Meredith's side, and this season I

494
00:25:32,200 --> 00:25:36,960
Speaker 3: find Meredith to be as a little bit unhinged as

495
00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:38,840
Speaker 3: the rest of the women, and now that they're all

496
00:25:38,840 --> 00:25:41,199
Speaker 3: on like an even playing field, I find Lisa to

497
00:25:41,200 --> 00:25:43,360
Speaker 3: be charming.

498
00:25:45,480 --> 00:25:47,880
Speaker 2: Compared to the other women. Wow.

499
00:25:48,720 --> 00:25:53,360
Speaker 3: Completely disagree, Okay, Okay, said I accept.

500
00:25:53,720 --> 00:25:56,159
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm obviously you know, the one thing she

501
00:25:56,200 --> 00:25:59,400
Speaker 2: and I have in common is the diet soda consumption.

502
00:25:59,680 --> 00:26:02,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, but other.

503
00:26:02,320 --> 00:26:04,880
Speaker 2: Than that, I just can't get on board with Lisa anymore.

504
00:26:05,720 --> 00:26:07,320
Speaker 3: Are you are you? Are you pro Meredith?

505
00:26:07,960 --> 00:26:10,840
Speaker 2: I'm not pro Meredith, but I do love she does.

506
00:26:11,000 --> 00:26:13,159
Speaker 2: I mean, she's the one person with like a I

507
00:26:13,200 --> 00:26:18,879
Speaker 2: feel like an operating intelligence, I'll say, sure, sure. And

508
00:26:18,920 --> 00:26:21,719
Speaker 2: the fact that you know her saying she submitted everyone

509
00:26:21,760 --> 00:26:24,399
Speaker 2: to a private investigator, I mean, just whatever's going on

510
00:26:24,440 --> 00:26:27,439
Speaker 2: in her life. She I love how much better she

511
00:26:27,520 --> 00:26:30,399
Speaker 2: thinks she is than everyone else on the show. That

512
00:26:30,480 --> 00:26:34,159
Speaker 2: comes through loud and clear, and you like that. I

513
00:26:34,280 --> 00:26:34,639
Speaker 2: love it.

514
00:26:35,920 --> 00:26:41,600
Speaker 3: I find someone like a Whitney or a Heather very

515
00:26:41,600 --> 00:26:46,320
Speaker 3: sympathetic because they are also clearly much more emotionally intelligent

516
00:26:46,320 --> 00:26:47,280
Speaker 3: than anyone on the show.

517
00:26:47,560 --> 00:26:51,480
Speaker 2: Emotionally intelligence certainly, well, Whitney, I don't know Whitney, I

518
00:26:51,520 --> 00:26:53,080
Speaker 2: don't know Heather certainly.

519
00:26:53,480 --> 00:26:55,720
Speaker 3: Oh but the way Whitney was just rattling off all

520
00:26:55,760 --> 00:26:59,560
Speaker 3: these all like the not legal eese, but she was like, well,

521
00:26:59,600 --> 00:27:03,280
Speaker 3: you know, on the first bus to Veil, which she

522
00:27:03,359 --> 00:27:06,760
Speaker 3: was like fraud, fraud, and she was just like like

523
00:27:06,920 --> 00:27:09,840
Speaker 3: like Whitney knew the lay of the land immediately. She

524
00:27:09,960 --> 00:27:11,639
Speaker 3: like she like she like got it, and she was

525
00:27:11,680 --> 00:27:13,679
Speaker 3: explaining this to the other women in a way that

526
00:27:13,720 --> 00:27:16,639
Speaker 3: I was like, oh, no, Whitney. I've always found Whitney

527
00:27:16,680 --> 00:27:19,679
Speaker 3: to be very smart and obviously like she's bubbly and

528
00:27:19,720 --> 00:27:22,360
Speaker 3: she's you know, she kind of like turns on some

529
00:27:22,440 --> 00:27:27,600
Speaker 3: sort of persona, but I feel like she is very intelligent.

530
00:27:28,200 --> 00:27:33,840
Speaker 3: Her draining her savings notwithstanding for no reason at all,

531
00:27:33,960 --> 00:27:35,960
Speaker 3: for no reason at all, absolutely no reason.

532
00:27:36,680 --> 00:27:38,879
Speaker 2: Bo And I mean I would be I would happily

533
00:27:39,480 --> 00:27:42,159
Speaker 2: happily talk to you about the housewives and Pokemon for

534
00:27:42,200 --> 00:27:46,480
Speaker 2: another hour. But look, I mean, housewives are a nice

535
00:27:46,920 --> 00:27:50,000
Speaker 2: segue into this next thing I'd like to get into

536
00:27:50,119 --> 00:27:52,720
Speaker 2: because I'm just going to say, you've been rude. There's

537
00:27:52,720 --> 00:27:54,920
Speaker 2: something I need to talk to you about. Okay, this

538
00:27:55,040 --> 00:27:56,640
Speaker 2: could end up with one of us calling the other

539
00:27:56,720 --> 00:27:59,360
Speaker 2: a garbage wore. It's impossible to say.

540
00:27:59,560 --> 00:28:01,399
Speaker 3: Who do you think would do that? I'm sorry, I'm

541
00:28:01,440 --> 00:28:02,040
Speaker 3: cutting you off.

542
00:28:02,119 --> 00:28:04,000
Speaker 2: I feel like you're going to I feel like you're

543
00:28:04,240 --> 00:28:07,600
Speaker 2: very likely to storm into another room at this point

544
00:28:07,840 --> 00:28:10,959
Speaker 2: as the one right, and then Anna Lise has to

545
00:28:11,000 --> 00:28:14,800
Speaker 2: talk you off the cliff. Bowen come back to the podcast,

546
00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:17,600
Speaker 2: and then you come back. I'm in tears.

547
00:28:18,119 --> 00:28:21,879
Speaker 3: Whatever I do, have a mirror version of myself that

548
00:28:21,920 --> 00:28:22,639
Speaker 3: i'm speaking to.

549
00:28:24,560 --> 00:28:26,920
Speaker 2: You agreed to be on this podcast a little while ago.

550
00:28:27,840 --> 00:28:30,720
Speaker 2: I was so happy. I thought, Bowen's so funny. We're

551
00:28:30,760 --> 00:28:33,760
Speaker 2: going to have a nice time. We'll talk and then

552
00:28:33,880 --> 00:28:36,960
Speaker 2: it'll be over, we'll move on. So I was a

553
00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:40,800
Speaker 2: little surprised. You know, the podcast is called I said

554
00:28:40,840 --> 00:28:44,040
Speaker 2: no gifts. You knew that when you agreed. I knew

555
00:28:44,040 --> 00:28:47,840
Speaker 2: that when I made the offer. I was a little

556
00:28:47,840 --> 00:28:51,640
Speaker 2: surprised the other day when I opened the door and

557
00:28:51,800 --> 00:28:55,400
Speaker 2: found a package. Would you can say.

558
00:28:55,240 --> 00:28:56,480
Speaker 3: Where it's from.

559
00:28:57,160 --> 00:28:59,520
Speaker 2: I'm not going to say where it's from. I'm not

560
00:28:59,560 --> 00:29:02,520
Speaker 2: going to say where it's from, not because I want

561
00:29:02,560 --> 00:29:04,920
Speaker 2: to protect you. I want to protect me, and I

562
00:29:04,960 --> 00:29:07,959
Speaker 2: don't sure. You know. I saw a package, and I,

563
00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:10,440
Speaker 2: you know, occasionally order from this company, and I so

564
00:29:10,840 --> 00:29:13,360
Speaker 2: you know, I forgot so I ripped it open in

565
00:29:13,400 --> 00:29:18,320
Speaker 2: my greedy way, and immediately upon seeing what was inside,

566
00:29:18,360 --> 00:29:20,560
Speaker 2: seeing that it was, you know, an object that I

567
00:29:20,600 --> 00:29:25,360
Speaker 2: had not ordered, averted my eyes. I thought, obviously Bowen

568
00:29:25,400 --> 00:29:28,960
Speaker 2: has sent some sort of surprise to the podcast. I

569
00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:31,600
Speaker 2: don't know what it is. I still don't, you know,

570
00:29:32,520 --> 00:29:35,200
Speaker 2: the listener knows that I'm very honest about this. I

571
00:29:35,320 --> 00:29:38,440
Speaker 2: like a surprise. I will say I saw a flash

572
00:29:38,440 --> 00:29:39,840
Speaker 2: of pink. That's all I can say.

573
00:29:39,880 --> 00:29:40,160
Speaker 3: That's all.

574
00:29:41,320 --> 00:29:45,080
Speaker 2: It's now kind of in this gorgeous.

575
00:29:47,520 --> 00:29:51,720
Speaker 3: Bag. Yeah, there's like a floral print some clearly used

576
00:29:51,720 --> 00:29:54,640
Speaker 3: tissue paper inside.

577
00:29:55,360 --> 00:29:56,520
Speaker 2: Bowen, is this a gift for me?

578
00:29:57,800 --> 00:29:59,880
Speaker 3: It is a gift for you. I know a lot

579
00:29:59,880 --> 00:30:03,440
Speaker 3: of guests typically write cards. I didn't know such a

580
00:30:03,480 --> 00:30:06,240
Speaker 3: thing because I knew that would have probably incensed you

581
00:30:06,280 --> 00:30:06,760
Speaker 3: even more.

582
00:30:07,360 --> 00:30:11,400
Speaker 2: Thank you. I appreciate that You're welcome. Uh, well, should

583
00:30:11,440 --> 00:30:13,880
Speaker 2: I open it here? On the podcast I you might

584
00:30:13,920 --> 00:30:14,560
Speaker 2: as well.

585
00:30:14,760 --> 00:30:16,560
Speaker 3: I mean, we've gone this far.

586
00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:26,240
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, I apologize, Thank you for your apology, Thank

587
00:30:26,320 --> 00:30:30,200
Speaker 2: you a thousand times. And now we're ripping in here tissue.

588
00:30:30,840 --> 00:30:33,520
Speaker 2: Now here's the offending package, and we're going to find

589
00:30:33,560 --> 00:30:36,760
Speaker 2: and find out what's happening. What's in it? Okay?

590
00:30:37,120 --> 00:30:42,120
Speaker 3: Are we ready? Oh? What is this? This is on

591
00:30:42,440 --> 00:30:46,000
Speaker 3: send powder? And I should have I should have inquired

592
00:30:46,520 --> 00:30:49,040
Speaker 3: whether or not you had a bathtub, because this is

593
00:30:49,120 --> 00:30:54,280
Speaker 3: just a lovely little bath powder you put in to simulate.

594
00:30:53,680 --> 00:30:56,360
Speaker 2: The experience of being in a Japanese hot spring. Oh

595
00:30:56,400 --> 00:30:59,600
Speaker 2: my god, I do have a bathtub, and I've ever

596
00:30:59,600 --> 00:31:03,920
Speaker 2: been to an so this is perfect. Have you been

597
00:31:03,960 --> 00:31:04,400
Speaker 2: to Japan.

598
00:31:05,040 --> 00:31:07,920
Speaker 3: I've not been to Japan. I just have this weird

599
00:31:08,880 --> 00:31:11,760
Speaker 3: just fascination with the culture, right.

600
00:31:11,760 --> 00:31:15,520
Speaker 2: Right, I think? I mean, I would say probably you

601
00:31:15,600 --> 00:31:17,520
Speaker 2: might have a similar thing to me that playing up,

602
00:31:17,560 --> 00:31:21,880
Speaker 2: growing up, playing video games and consuming Japanese pop culture exactly,

603
00:31:21,920 --> 00:31:25,840
Speaker 2: it probably has led to that what this is fascinating?

604
00:31:25,840 --> 00:31:28,400
Speaker 2: So how did you? I mean, I'm familiar with the

605
00:31:28,440 --> 00:31:31,600
Speaker 2: idea of an nonsense, but I've never I wouldn't be

606
00:31:31,640 --> 00:31:33,640
Speaker 2: able to tell you that there's a special powder there, but.

607
00:31:33,600 --> 00:31:37,240
Speaker 3: There's a powder for it. This is something that again

608
00:31:37,560 --> 00:31:41,120
Speaker 3: the first pandemic summer. I'm sorry to bring that up again.

609
00:31:41,160 --> 00:31:44,360
Speaker 3: I'm sorry to remind you of your whiplash back to

610
00:31:44,480 --> 00:31:50,840
Speaker 3: this of our chronology. I'm sorry, but we I looked

611
00:31:50,920 --> 00:31:56,080
Speaker 3: up bath stuff because I was like, before the pandemic,

612
00:31:56,840 --> 00:32:00,520
Speaker 3: very anti bath, but you had nothing else to do.

613
00:32:00,640 --> 00:32:03,520
Speaker 3: So then I got really into bath and then I

614
00:32:03,560 --> 00:32:06,160
Speaker 3: read somewhere I forget where it was, but someone did

615
00:32:06,280 --> 00:32:10,320
Speaker 3: sort of check this item as something that they enjoyed,

616
00:32:10,360 --> 00:32:12,080
Speaker 3: and I was like, I'm going to order that, And

617
00:32:12,160 --> 00:32:13,960
Speaker 3: since then I got to say, I really, this is

618
00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:17,680
Speaker 3: sort of an essential component of my bath ritual.

619
00:32:18,240 --> 00:32:21,920
Speaker 2: So is it like a like a bubble? Bath is

620
00:32:22,080 --> 00:32:24,200
Speaker 2: just a light film what's happening?

621
00:32:24,840 --> 00:32:30,440
Speaker 3: And the powder? Yes, the powder is just a light fragrance.

622
00:32:31,720 --> 00:32:34,760
Speaker 3: A color. Sometimes. I think there's an assortment of colors

623
00:32:34,760 --> 00:32:37,400
Speaker 3: in that box that I've given you. So there's gonna

624
00:32:37,440 --> 00:32:42,000
Speaker 3: be like a very chemical unnatural green, a pink, a yellow,

625
00:32:42,640 --> 00:32:45,400
Speaker 3: but it will feel really nice on the skin. It

626
00:32:45,440 --> 00:32:48,040
Speaker 3: will not foam or bubble. So if you want that

627
00:32:48,200 --> 00:32:52,640
Speaker 3: to be part of your sensory thing, like, you gotta

628
00:32:52,800 --> 00:32:53,880
Speaker 3: buy your own bubble bath.

629
00:32:55,560 --> 00:32:58,000
Speaker 2: So do you do a combination or did you just

630
00:32:58,040 --> 00:32:58,600
Speaker 2: do the powder?

631
00:32:58,840 --> 00:33:02,400
Speaker 3: I always do a combination, okay, And I find that

632
00:33:02,480 --> 00:33:06,600
Speaker 3: it really kind of is a complete bath experience for me.

633
00:33:07,240 --> 00:33:10,160
Speaker 2: Now, listener, I'm just to describe what I'm looking at.

634
00:33:10,200 --> 00:33:12,280
Speaker 2: It's essentially like a little pink box. There's like a

635
00:33:12,320 --> 00:33:15,479
Speaker 2: little I think a Japanese woman on the front, and

636
00:33:15,480 --> 00:33:19,040
Speaker 2: then obviously all of the texts and Japanese. But it

637
00:33:19,040 --> 00:33:23,040
Speaker 2: looks like there are multiple powders or something in this.

638
00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:24,320
Speaker 3: There's multiple powders.

639
00:33:24,560 --> 00:33:27,200
Speaker 2: I was expecting basically like a small plastic bag that

640
00:33:27,280 --> 00:33:29,360
Speaker 2: would not be where I would accidentally dump into the

641
00:33:29,400 --> 00:33:31,640
Speaker 2: bath and then it would all be gone. These are

642
00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:34,600
Speaker 2: individual almost like a.

643
00:33:33,840 --> 00:33:35,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, how would you describe it?

644
00:33:35,040 --> 00:33:37,800
Speaker 2: It's almost like a you could drop this in a

645
00:33:37,840 --> 00:33:39,479
Speaker 2: to go bag at a restaurant and someone would pour

646
00:33:39,560 --> 00:33:42,200
Speaker 2: this on their food. It's like a small ketch packet

647
00:33:42,200 --> 00:33:43,800
Speaker 2: on like a large ketchup packet.

648
00:33:44,400 --> 00:33:46,360
Speaker 3: I mean if you were at you know, if that

649
00:33:46,480 --> 00:33:48,360
Speaker 3: was with you at lunch today, you would have just

650
00:33:48,960 --> 00:33:50,600
Speaker 3: tore it and open and it would have sort of

651
00:33:51,560 --> 00:33:54,920
Speaker 3: just popped all of your your clothes. I each individual

652
00:33:55,000 --> 00:33:56,240
Speaker 3: package is good for one bath.

653
00:33:56,560 --> 00:34:02,480
Speaker 2: Oh, this is treat it as you would cash, Yes, yes, okay,

654
00:34:02,480 --> 00:34:03,600
Speaker 2: So how often are you bathing?

655
00:34:04,080 --> 00:34:06,360
Speaker 3: I'm not. I don't do it that often. I'll keep

656
00:34:06,400 --> 00:34:09,680
Speaker 3: it to like once a week or once every two weeks.

657
00:34:09,680 --> 00:34:12,719
Speaker 3: It's more, it's more actually accurate, to say once every

658
00:34:12,960 --> 00:34:13,960
Speaker 3: ten days or so.

659
00:34:14,200 --> 00:34:16,759
Speaker 2: Oh, that's pretty frequent, though, the rice a month? Is

660
00:34:16,760 --> 00:34:20,040
Speaker 2: it to take a full bath every ten days? I

661
00:34:20,040 --> 00:34:24,280
Speaker 2: would say maybe, I'm I'm taking a bath once every

662
00:34:24,320 --> 00:34:27,360
Speaker 2: five weeks. I want to isolate all this audio and

663
00:34:27,440 --> 00:34:29,880
Speaker 2: release it. So it just sounds like you and I

664
00:34:29,960 --> 00:34:32,760
Speaker 2: are either bathing every ten days or every five weeks,

665
00:34:32,760 --> 00:34:36,280
Speaker 2: and then the rest of the time we're filthy. Yes, yes,

666
00:34:36,680 --> 00:34:39,240
Speaker 2: we don't do any sort of cleaning. Yeah, there's no showering,

667
00:34:39,239 --> 00:34:41,759
Speaker 2: there's nothing. I'm just covered in grime. And then every

668
00:34:41,760 --> 00:34:44,040
Speaker 2: five weeks I get hosed down and I consider that

669
00:34:44,080 --> 00:34:46,880
Speaker 2: a bath. No, I will. I will fill a bath

670
00:34:47,000 --> 00:34:49,200
Speaker 2: once every five weeks, and it's incredible.

671
00:34:49,760 --> 00:34:52,600
Speaker 3: Yes, what keeps you from doing it more often?

672
00:34:53,680 --> 00:34:55,520
Speaker 2: Well? I don't like to enjoy myself.

673
00:34:55,520 --> 00:34:59,080
Speaker 3: It is wasteful. Okay, Okay, I actually don't think a

674
00:34:59,120 --> 00:35:02,239
Speaker 3: bath is wasteful. I think a shower is probably more

675
00:35:02,280 --> 00:35:06,320
Speaker 3: wasteful than a bath. I've been recently told the opposite,

676
00:35:06,360 --> 00:35:08,440
Speaker 3: and I don't know who to believe, because I'm so

677
00:35:08,840 --> 00:35:12,680
Speaker 3: willing to believe you, to believe you to do Yeah,

678
00:35:12,680 --> 00:35:15,960
Speaker 3: I just I wish that the baths weren't. But I'm

679
00:35:16,440 --> 00:35:19,960
Speaker 3: someone told me on good authority that it's more wasteful.

680
00:35:20,200 --> 00:35:23,960
Speaker 3: Who told you this? The water? The water, the water,

681
00:35:24,480 --> 00:35:29,239
Speaker 3: the force? Water force knocked.

682
00:35:28,880 --> 00:35:33,839
Speaker 2: On your door? Yes that, Hey, you know what, we

683
00:35:33,920 --> 00:35:37,200
Speaker 2: know you like this, but I can't do it. I

684
00:35:37,280 --> 00:35:40,320
Speaker 2: just feel like I take long showers and that water's

685
00:35:40,600 --> 00:35:43,640
Speaker 2: just going down the drain NonStop. You know I'm in

686
00:35:43,640 --> 00:35:46,680
Speaker 2: there for twenty twenty five minutes. Well, oh, okay, that's

687
00:35:46,760 --> 00:35:50,279
Speaker 2: not that long. That sounds like someone's having a breakdown.

688
00:35:50,440 --> 00:35:52,560
Speaker 3: I'm not in there for twenty five minutes, Okay, I

689
00:35:52,600 --> 00:35:54,040
Speaker 3: believe you ten I.

690
00:35:53,960 --> 00:35:57,000
Speaker 2: Would say probably ten to thirteen minutes.

691
00:35:56,920 --> 00:35:58,800
Speaker 3: When I was growing up, or not when I was

692
00:35:58,800 --> 00:36:01,160
Speaker 3: growing up. I remember growing up and watching an episode

693
00:36:01,160 --> 00:36:05,880
Speaker 3: of Seinfeld, and I think, like Kramer has is pulling

694
00:36:05,960 --> 00:36:10,840
Speaker 3: everybody like how long their showers are? And everyone answers

695
00:36:10,920 --> 00:36:14,360
Speaker 3: him ten minutes, and I was like, I guess I

696
00:36:14,400 --> 00:36:18,279
Speaker 3: should be taking longer showers, and to this day, I

697
00:36:18,320 --> 00:36:21,400
Speaker 3: still only take like a three minute shower. And you

698
00:36:21,440 --> 00:36:22,920
Speaker 3: know how he can tell is because I'll put on

699
00:36:22,960 --> 00:36:25,560
Speaker 3: a song before I get in, and by the time

700
00:36:25,560 --> 00:36:27,000
Speaker 3: i'm out, I'm like, the song is still on.

701
00:36:27,360 --> 00:36:30,000
Speaker 2: Oh and that is way too short. I'm hearing two

702
00:36:30,040 --> 00:36:31,279
Speaker 2: songs at least.

703
00:36:31,640 --> 00:36:35,239
Speaker 3: Okay, have you I don't know, so I let me

704
00:36:35,280 --> 00:36:38,839
Speaker 3: just walk you through what my typical shower is. I'll

705
00:36:38,840 --> 00:36:42,560
Speaker 3: get in, do do shampoo, then conditioner because I leave

706
00:36:42,560 --> 00:36:45,160
Speaker 3: the conditioner in for a minute or so. Okay, but

707
00:36:45,200 --> 00:36:47,240
Speaker 3: that whole process takes what two minutes?

708
00:36:47,600 --> 00:36:47,960
Speaker 2: Sure?

709
00:36:48,400 --> 00:36:51,879
Speaker 3: Then that third minute, I'm just slathering on some shower gel,

710
00:36:51,920 --> 00:36:55,520
Speaker 3: some body wash, rint it off, and then I'm out.

711
00:36:56,120 --> 00:37:00,160
Speaker 2: This is so joyless. What else are you doing in there? Okay?

712
00:37:00,239 --> 00:37:01,720
Speaker 2: This is me I put on the music.

713
00:37:02,000 --> 00:37:02,239
Speaker 3: Yeah.

714
00:37:02,239 --> 00:37:03,919
Speaker 2: And also I'll say that when you're in the shower,

715
00:37:03,960 --> 00:37:05,880
Speaker 2: it's a good time to listen to new music or

716
00:37:05,880 --> 00:37:08,200
Speaker 2: like music that you're like you would like to get

717
00:37:08,280 --> 00:37:11,320
Speaker 2: used to. Okay, you know, there's less pressure on the music.

718
00:37:11,320 --> 00:37:14,520
Speaker 2: It can just be noise. Yes, I get in there,

719
00:37:14,640 --> 00:37:17,879
Speaker 2: the first probably three minutes are just getting my hair

720
00:37:17,920 --> 00:37:24,399
Speaker 2: wet and just you know, releasing my cares. Okay, then

721
00:37:24,800 --> 00:37:27,680
Speaker 2: I'm you know, I'm getting the whatever. That's three minutes

722
00:37:27,719 --> 00:37:32,759
Speaker 2: of nothing, three minutes of absolutely nothing, okay, great, just

723
00:37:32,840 --> 00:37:38,399
Speaker 2: truly being wet and letting the temperature rise. Then I'm

724
00:37:38,680 --> 00:37:41,359
Speaker 2: let's see what's happening next. I'm getting the what what

725
00:37:41,440 --> 00:37:45,200
Speaker 2: is this? What is the little pollu poof? Yeah? Yeah,

726
00:37:45,239 --> 00:37:49,960
Speaker 2: it's a lufa. Technically it's like a plant that's then dried,

727
00:37:50,440 --> 00:37:54,080
Speaker 2: which I've learned recently. I'm using the plastic one that

728
00:37:54,239 --> 00:37:58,520
Speaker 2: is probably contributing to some sort of ecological nightmare. Or sure,

729
00:37:59,120 --> 00:38:04,680
Speaker 2: put the soap on it, wash up, rinse off. Okay,

730
00:38:04,719 --> 00:38:08,799
Speaker 2: So then what we're five minutes into showering. I'm then

731
00:38:10,480 --> 00:38:13,200
Speaker 2: I'll spend another two minutes just kind of dicking around,

732
00:38:14,080 --> 00:38:18,440
Speaker 2: just doing nothing with myself. I will then shave, okay,

733
00:38:19,560 --> 00:38:24,120
Speaker 2: which takes considering that my face barely has any facial hair.

734
00:38:24,480 --> 00:38:29,200
Speaker 3: Maybe two minutes. Great, what are we looking at here?

735
00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:32,440
Speaker 3: I'm already dressed it, I'm already dressed. I'm already out

736
00:38:32,480 --> 00:38:34,800
Speaker 3: the door. I'm out of my apartment.

737
00:38:35,880 --> 00:38:38,880
Speaker 2: At this point. What are you doing? Okay? Then I

738
00:38:38,920 --> 00:38:42,479
Speaker 2: you know, I lost the shaving cream. Uh huh. Maybe

739
00:38:42,520 --> 00:38:45,680
Speaker 2: another and then it really depends on where I am mentally,

740
00:38:45,960 --> 00:38:50,040
Speaker 2: because then the course we're done, we're done, but that

741
00:38:50,080 --> 00:38:52,759
Speaker 2: could then we've got a minute too. I would say

742
00:38:52,800 --> 00:38:58,480
Speaker 2: five minutes left of truly nothing, just enjoying the spa

743
00:38:58,560 --> 00:39:03,880
Speaker 2: atmosphere of the shower. How are you standing? Can I ask?

744
00:39:04,239 --> 00:39:07,200
Speaker 3: Are you like during those moments of idling, like are

745
00:39:07,239 --> 00:39:09,560
Speaker 3: you like just kind of like limbs down, just kind

746
00:39:09,560 --> 00:39:14,000
Speaker 3: of like like my soul just left my body? Or

747
00:39:14,040 --> 00:39:16,239
Speaker 3: are you like rubbing on yourself like I'm just I'm

748
00:39:16,239 --> 00:39:17,520
Speaker 3: just I'm sorry to ask.

749
00:39:18,040 --> 00:39:23,399
Speaker 2: I'm dancing, you're dancing. I am absolutely dancing. No, that's

750
00:39:23,440 --> 00:39:25,040
Speaker 2: a really good question. What am I doing?

751
00:39:26,760 --> 00:39:29,000
Speaker 3: I don't want to know. That's a vulnerable question. That's

752
00:39:29,000 --> 00:39:30,600
Speaker 3: I'm sorry, that's a vulnerable I don't think.

753
00:39:30,480 --> 00:39:34,479
Speaker 2: It's a vulnerable and vulnerability is crucial. It is talking

754
00:39:34,480 --> 00:39:38,680
Speaker 2: about showering, but I truly don't know what. I've never

755
00:39:38,719 --> 00:39:42,600
Speaker 2: even thought about because I'm not really moving. I guess

756
00:39:42,600 --> 00:39:43,080
Speaker 2: I'm kind of you.

757
00:39:43,880 --> 00:39:47,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'll do mine for you, because this is this

758
00:39:47,120 --> 00:39:48,840
Speaker 3: is this is mean just doing nothing in the shower.

759
00:39:48,840 --> 00:39:49,359
Speaker 2: I'm kind of.

760
00:39:49,280 --> 00:39:51,680
Speaker 3: Like like my, my, I think my, I think I'm

761
00:39:51,719 --> 00:39:54,160
Speaker 3: just doing like this my arms are on my on

762
00:39:54,200 --> 00:39:56,400
Speaker 3: my biceps, just kind of like just kind of keeping

763
00:39:56,480 --> 00:39:57,600
Speaker 3: holding myself.

764
00:39:57,239 --> 00:40:01,360
Speaker 2: Close like you've been through. So do you need a

765
00:40:01,360 --> 00:40:05,200
Speaker 2: shock blanket or something? Yes, I wonder am I I'm

766
00:40:05,239 --> 00:40:08,040
Speaker 2: not doing this? I might be like, you know, running

767
00:40:08,040 --> 00:40:10,680
Speaker 2: my fingers through my hair. I mean, this is the

768
00:40:10,680 --> 00:40:13,879
Speaker 2: most erotic this podcast will ever be. I love it,

769
00:40:15,320 --> 00:40:17,839
Speaker 2: but I yeah, I'm now I'm going to be so

770
00:40:17,920 --> 00:40:20,400
Speaker 2: self conscious, so self conscious the next time I'm in

771
00:40:20,440 --> 00:40:20,840
Speaker 2: the shower.

772
00:40:21,320 --> 00:40:23,960
Speaker 3: I don't want to make you like that. I just

773
00:40:24,080 --> 00:40:26,799
Speaker 3: I'm just curious because you're spending a long stretches of

774
00:40:26,800 --> 00:40:32,120
Speaker 3: time relatively speaking, just any rabbit state not doing anything

775
00:40:32,160 --> 00:40:36,239
Speaker 3: in the La River is hurting for water, and you're

776
00:40:36,320 --> 00:40:37,160
Speaker 3: taking all of it.

777
00:40:37,320 --> 00:40:39,800
Speaker 2: Oh what a shame. I mean, I guess I'm just

778
00:40:39,840 --> 00:40:41,520
Speaker 2: gonna have to figure out what I'm doing in there.

779
00:40:41,800 --> 00:40:45,920
Speaker 2: You know, this is such an excellent question. Occasionally I'll

780
00:40:45,920 --> 00:40:49,200
Speaker 2: sit down really Oh yeah, depending on your mental state,

781
00:40:49,400 --> 00:40:54,000
Speaker 2: right absolutely in like level of fatigue, yes, yes, yeah,

782
00:40:54,160 --> 00:40:54,600
Speaker 2: I don't know.

783
00:40:55,200 --> 00:40:59,360
Speaker 3: No, that's that's totally fine. I think American beauty scared

784
00:40:59,360 --> 00:41:01,120
Speaker 3: me out of space too much time in the shower,

785
00:41:01,160 --> 00:41:02,880
Speaker 3: That's what it was. It was a Seinfeld in American

786
00:41:02,920 --> 00:41:05,560
Speaker 3: Beauty being like Siginfall being like you should spend more time,

787
00:41:06,080 --> 00:41:08,160
Speaker 3: and American Beauty being like you should spend less time

788
00:41:08,200 --> 00:41:10,839
Speaker 3: because otherwise you're like Kevin Spacey and you're like, you know,

789
00:41:10,960 --> 00:41:12,560
Speaker 3: this is like it's all downhill from here.

790
00:41:12,640 --> 00:41:16,640
Speaker 2: Whatever. He said, Oh my god, I'm Kevin Spacey.

791
00:41:16,960 --> 00:41:17,800
Speaker 3: You're Kevin Spacey.

792
00:41:17,840 --> 00:41:20,479
Speaker 2: This is sorry, oh no, getting him a very dark

793
00:41:20,600 --> 00:41:23,080
Speaker 2: road for me. I don't like.

794
00:41:23,239 --> 00:41:23,920
Speaker 3: I'm sorry.

795
00:41:24,040 --> 00:41:26,080
Speaker 2: Well, and I think you should add two extra minutes

796
00:41:26,080 --> 00:41:28,400
Speaker 2: to your shower. That's all I'm saying. Five minutes feels

797
00:41:28,440 --> 00:41:30,680
Speaker 2: like not five. Five.

798
00:41:30,680 --> 00:41:32,840
Speaker 3: It is not too much. I will do five. I promise.

799
00:41:32,920 --> 00:41:35,879
Speaker 2: There's so much water in New York. I mean, is

800
00:41:35,920 --> 00:41:40,080
Speaker 2: there's plenty wor an island. You've got use it up,

801
00:41:40,239 --> 00:41:42,680
Speaker 2: that's what I Yeah, yeah, okay, So I have my

802
00:41:42,760 --> 00:41:45,200
Speaker 2: ons and powder, I dump it in the hot water,

803
00:41:45,239 --> 00:41:46,680
Speaker 2: and then I just sit there for a while. Light

804
00:41:46,760 --> 00:41:52,080
Speaker 2: some candles, absolutely play some music. I did buy.

805
00:41:52,520 --> 00:41:55,760
Speaker 3: I did invest in, like one of those bathtub trays.

806
00:41:55,960 --> 00:41:58,000
Speaker 2: And what are you putting on the tray.

807
00:41:58,160 --> 00:42:02,760
Speaker 3: There's a candle sort of holder. Okay, there's an iPad

808
00:42:03,160 --> 00:42:05,440
Speaker 3: a little like rack. If you want to like lean

809
00:42:05,480 --> 00:42:09,240
Speaker 3: your iPad on, right, But let me tell you something.

810
00:42:10,040 --> 00:42:12,960
Speaker 3: Within days immediately it developed molds.

811
00:42:13,000 --> 00:42:16,840
Speaker 2: To throw it out, Yeah, because you're only doing it

812
00:42:16,880 --> 00:42:19,760
Speaker 2: every ten days. I feel like if you were bathing

813
00:42:20,000 --> 00:42:21,840
Speaker 2: every single day, maybe it wouldn't get the mold.

814
00:42:22,680 --> 00:42:24,239
Speaker 3: I think no, I think it's because I'm bath I

815
00:42:24,280 --> 00:42:27,720
Speaker 3: bathed too frequently, or interest more frequently than you. Whatever.

816
00:42:27,800 --> 00:42:30,600
Speaker 3: But like it was, I think it's because I left

817
00:42:30,640 --> 00:42:32,680
Speaker 3: it wet, or there are more opportunities for it to

818
00:42:32,680 --> 00:42:34,920
Speaker 3: get wet and to pretain moisture so that they're for

819
00:42:35,000 --> 00:42:38,040
Speaker 3: the mold. And where were you storing it? Does it

820
00:42:38,120 --> 00:42:40,520
Speaker 3: just stay on the bath? I think I made a

821
00:42:40,560 --> 00:42:41,719
Speaker 3: mistake of leaving it on the bath.

822
00:42:42,120 --> 00:42:44,759
Speaker 2: Okay, but I feel like you kind of have no

823
00:42:45,080 --> 00:42:46,120
Speaker 2: what are you going to do? Put it in a

824
00:42:46,200 --> 00:42:49,879
Speaker 2: dark cupboard, it's going to be it'll walk away. I mean,

825
00:42:49,880 --> 00:42:51,360
Speaker 2: they're not a mold on that.

826
00:42:51,560 --> 00:42:53,800
Speaker 3: I know, I know, I guess. I guess there's that

827
00:42:53,960 --> 00:42:59,080
Speaker 3: it's a flawed invention. It's a terrible invention. I mean, yeah,

828
00:42:59,160 --> 00:43:04,719
Speaker 3: I I feel like mankind will never hack it.

829
00:43:04,960 --> 00:43:07,520
Speaker 2: That feels like an impossible mountain to climb. It is

830
00:43:07,600 --> 00:43:09,239
Speaker 2: it is, It is so do you read in the bath?

831
00:43:09,280 --> 00:43:10,719
Speaker 2: What are you doing just relaxing?

832
00:43:10,920 --> 00:43:14,960
Speaker 3: No, I'm just I'm just like truly, it's my one

833
00:43:15,160 --> 00:43:17,439
Speaker 3: place to Maybe the reason I do it so often

834
00:43:17,560 --> 00:43:20,719
Speaker 3: is because outside of the walls of my bathroom, I

835
00:43:20,719 --> 00:43:23,279
Speaker 3: feel like I okay, so see this is we have

836
00:43:23,320 --> 00:43:29,120
Speaker 3: a similar relationship with our tubs, showers, whatever, because I

837
00:43:29,600 --> 00:43:34,839
Speaker 3: do feel like I have no control and I don't

838
00:43:34,840 --> 00:43:36,640
Speaker 3: want to make this like a self care thing. It's

839
00:43:36,640 --> 00:43:40,000
Speaker 3: but it's just literally that like I feel like outside

840
00:43:40,000 --> 00:43:44,240
Speaker 3: of the bathroom, I don't I cannot achieve this level

841
00:43:44,239 --> 00:43:48,080
Speaker 3: of relaxation, right, yeah, right, So you're just going for

842
00:43:48,160 --> 00:43:50,960
Speaker 3: it when you're in the bath exactly, although you were

843
00:43:50,960 --> 00:43:55,000
Speaker 3: bringing your iPad in. I know, do you judge me

844
00:43:55,080 --> 00:43:55,399
Speaker 3: for this?

845
00:43:55,800 --> 00:43:57,239
Speaker 2: I don't judge you for it, but I just feel

846
00:43:57,280 --> 00:43:59,200
Speaker 2: like that's such an opposite end of the spectrum as

847
00:43:59,200 --> 00:44:01,880
Speaker 2: far as relax sho't goes. I mean, like, oh, but

848
00:44:02,560 --> 00:44:05,279
Speaker 2: to put on a show or something, I can't have

849
00:44:05,440 --> 00:44:07,279
Speaker 2: I have to have the outside world removed. I mean,

850
00:44:07,320 --> 00:44:09,200
Speaker 2: the only thing I can do is read, maybe read

851
00:44:09,239 --> 00:44:13,200
Speaker 2: a book, okay, okay, But like the one thing that

852
00:44:13,239 --> 00:44:15,920
Speaker 2: appeals to me about a wet environment is that my

853
00:44:15,960 --> 00:44:20,160
Speaker 2: phone can be nowhere near me iPad computer? Sure, I mean,

854
00:44:20,160 --> 00:44:23,759
Speaker 2: I just can leave that to the rest of my life.

855
00:44:23,840 --> 00:44:26,680
Speaker 3: If I were to be electrocuted by an electronic device

856
00:44:26,719 --> 00:44:28,640
Speaker 3: while I was in the path like that, that makes

857
00:44:28,680 --> 00:44:31,719
Speaker 3: the most sense to go that way to.

858
00:44:31,760 --> 00:44:33,200
Speaker 2: Be your end.

859
00:44:33,640 --> 00:44:36,640
Speaker 3: Yes, to be killed by an electronic because I feel

860
00:44:36,640 --> 00:44:41,320
Speaker 3: like they've slowly, you know, just corroded my soul.

861
00:44:41,640 --> 00:44:43,759
Speaker 2: Right, I mean, I think I can see myself playing

862
00:44:43,760 --> 00:44:47,760
Speaker 2: Pokemon in the path. Sure, I could probably get into that. Wait,

863
00:44:47,800 --> 00:44:51,760
Speaker 2: like like like on the switch, Liken see that? Okay,

864
00:44:51,840 --> 00:44:53,680
Speaker 2: do you mean that? Because I can never do that?

865
00:44:53,680 --> 00:44:56,920
Speaker 2: That sounds very relaxing to me, because video games has

866
00:44:56,920 --> 00:44:59,120
Speaker 2: nothing to do with what I do in my life, right,

867
00:45:00,080 --> 00:45:03,600
Speaker 2: it's entertaining. I mean, my my fear would be I

868
00:45:03,640 --> 00:45:04,960
Speaker 2: was going to destroy my switch.

869
00:45:05,800 --> 00:45:08,960
Speaker 3: Of course, we'll see. I should be specific that the

870
00:45:08,960 --> 00:45:12,799
Speaker 3: only TV I watch in the tub is reality TV

871
00:45:12,960 --> 00:45:16,799
Speaker 3: because because I have no relationship to it, because I'm

872
00:45:16,800 --> 00:45:19,359
Speaker 3: not like, well, they must have. I must have taken

873
00:45:19,400 --> 00:45:21,200
Speaker 3: forever to say, you know, like I'm never thinking about

874
00:45:21,200 --> 00:45:21,680
Speaker 3: the production.

875
00:45:23,120 --> 00:45:27,000
Speaker 2: You know, Yeah, that makes sense. That's I mean, basically,

876
00:45:27,080 --> 00:45:30,120
Speaker 2: the only television that feels remotely relaxing to me anymore

877
00:45:30,160 --> 00:45:33,680
Speaker 2: is reality because of that exact reason, I'm not thinking

878
00:45:33,680 --> 00:45:36,880
Speaker 2: about that people behind it exactly.

879
00:45:37,480 --> 00:45:39,200
Speaker 3: But I guess I'm sorry to make this like an

880
00:45:39,200 --> 00:45:43,480
Speaker 3: industry convo, but like does this does this apply to Like,

881
00:45:44,440 --> 00:45:47,040
Speaker 3: I don't know, does this make you? I feel like

882
00:45:47,200 --> 00:45:50,640
Speaker 3: I'm a bad student of my medium if I'm not

883
00:45:50,760 --> 00:45:53,640
Speaker 3: like constantly like up to speed on like what's out there.

884
00:45:53,880 --> 00:45:56,120
Speaker 2: It's a horrible line to have to walk. I know,

885
00:45:56,200 --> 00:45:57,840
Speaker 2: I don't want to fall behind. I need to know

886
00:45:57,880 --> 00:46:01,200
Speaker 2: what's going on. It's you. You know, it's valuable to

887
00:46:01,200 --> 00:46:06,360
Speaker 2: see what other people have created, sure, but it's also miserable.

888
00:46:06,840 --> 00:46:07,880
Speaker 3: You have to protect yourself.

889
00:46:07,920 --> 00:46:11,520
Speaker 2: Yes, So yeah, it's like, I mean, I try to

890
00:46:11,560 --> 00:46:13,759
Speaker 2: walk a nice line. And I feel like the pandemic

891
00:46:13,800 --> 00:46:16,520
Speaker 2: has helped in like really increasing the amount of reality

892
00:46:16,560 --> 00:46:19,360
Speaker 2: TV I've watched, so I always have like a shark

893
00:46:19,400 --> 00:46:22,600
Speaker 2: tank of housewives these things to fall back on where

894
00:46:22,800 --> 00:46:27,759
Speaker 2: my brain is at, you know, working at half speed, feels.

895
00:46:27,520 --> 00:46:29,719
Speaker 3: In cress, feeling the best feeling have you? Are you

896
00:46:29,719 --> 00:46:31,000
Speaker 3: a ninety dight fiance person?

897
00:46:31,200 --> 00:46:34,839
Speaker 2: I was for quite I mean, I think maybe five

898
00:46:34,920 --> 00:46:36,400
Speaker 2: seasons at the beginning of the pandemic.

899
00:46:36,480 --> 00:46:39,200
Speaker 3: Okay, great, great, great, do you watch it? I am

900
00:46:39,280 --> 00:46:42,520
Speaker 3: only sort of picking and choosing which seasons, and it's

901
00:46:42,840 --> 00:46:44,359
Speaker 3: mostly before the ninety Days.

902
00:46:44,400 --> 00:46:49,239
Speaker 2: It's not the other one, right, Yeah, I think that

903
00:46:49,320 --> 00:46:52,040
Speaker 2: I have only seen ninety Day and there are so

904
00:46:52,120 --> 00:46:56,360
Speaker 2: many spinoffs, too many. One might say, yeah, I mean there,

905
00:46:56,960 --> 00:46:59,520
Speaker 2: they've diluted the brand in a way that is I've

906
00:46:59,560 --> 00:47:02,000
Speaker 2: never seen before. There's like one where I think that

907
00:47:02,040 --> 00:47:03,680
Speaker 2: the couples just watched the show.

908
00:47:04,280 --> 00:47:07,319
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I did watch one of those episodes last night.

909
00:47:07,520 --> 00:47:11,040
Speaker 3: How did that feel? Kind of insane? I was like,

910
00:47:11,120 --> 00:47:15,840
Speaker 3: what am I watching? Exactly? It's them react, it's them reacting,

911
00:47:15,840 --> 00:47:18,919
Speaker 3: it's them watching themselves on the show. And then it's

912
00:47:19,000 --> 00:47:24,080
Speaker 3: them responding to tweets, like really horrid tweets about themselves.

913
00:47:24,840 --> 00:47:27,720
Speaker 3: And I'm like, this is actually not I'm watching someone

914
00:47:27,760 --> 00:47:31,680
Speaker 3: be like actually hurt by something, you know. On the

915
00:47:31,719 --> 00:47:34,319
Speaker 3: top of Yeah, they're not making any money, it's not

916
00:47:34,400 --> 00:47:36,239
Speaker 3: like there this was making them rich.

917
00:47:37,239 --> 00:47:38,400
Speaker 2: Well can I say that.

918
00:47:40,239 --> 00:47:43,640
Speaker 3: I did ask one of the producers, a friend who

919
00:47:43,680 --> 00:47:45,680
Speaker 3: I later found out worked on one of these seasons.

920
00:47:45,760 --> 00:47:48,040
Speaker 3: I was like, how much money do they make? And

921
00:47:48,080 --> 00:47:50,080
Speaker 3: he did say that they make as much money as

922
00:47:50,160 --> 00:47:52,480
Speaker 3: a first year cast member on SNL. So I was

923
00:47:52,520 --> 00:47:56,799
Speaker 3: like getting me, I feel like it makes total sense

924
00:47:56,800 --> 00:47:59,320
Speaker 3: because you want to incentivize them being on the show.

925
00:47:59,400 --> 00:48:02,520
Speaker 2: Right, and the people are so out of control. Sure

926
00:48:02,680 --> 00:48:04,040
Speaker 2: you just think that they would like work for a

927
00:48:04,040 --> 00:48:05,000
Speaker 2: bag of French fries.

928
00:48:05,680 --> 00:48:08,520
Speaker 3: Yeah that's true. Oh yeah, yeah, which is what I

929
00:48:08,560 --> 00:48:12,160
Speaker 3: get paid my first season. Yeah. This is not to

930
00:48:12,200 --> 00:48:15,160
Speaker 3: say that, like, no, that the famously the contracts are

931
00:48:15,239 --> 00:48:18,319
Speaker 3: not that great for people working at the show starting out,

932
00:48:18,360 --> 00:48:21,680
Speaker 3: and I can comfortably say that anyway.

933
00:48:21,800 --> 00:48:24,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, but it's not bad money as well. I mean

934
00:48:24,400 --> 00:48:27,840
Speaker 2: I just feel like for a ninety day fiance person

935
00:48:27,880 --> 00:48:31,680
Speaker 2: to be making over four dollars an hour is shocking

936
00:48:31,719 --> 00:48:31,920
Speaker 2: to me?

937
00:48:32,080 --> 00:48:35,840
Speaker 3: Is shocking? Yes, absolutely shocking because these people seem completely

938
00:48:35,840 --> 00:48:38,040
Speaker 3: depraved and desperate.

939
00:48:39,160 --> 00:48:40,840
Speaker 2: In every aspect of their lives.

940
00:48:43,080 --> 00:48:44,680
Speaker 3: But stop watching.

941
00:48:44,800 --> 00:48:49,480
Speaker 2: Sorry, Oh of course I h that I started watching Survivor.

942
00:48:49,760 --> 00:48:50,640
Speaker 2: Do you watch Survivor?

943
00:48:51,360 --> 00:48:55,360
Speaker 3: I have also only picked and chosen my Survivor seasons,

944
00:48:55,360 --> 00:48:57,360
Speaker 3: but I do love it.

945
00:48:57,360 --> 00:49:00,200
Speaker 2: It's incredible. I mean, there are how many seasons at

946
00:49:00,200 --> 00:49:03,120
Speaker 2: this point, thirty forty, forty one, forty one Did you

947
00:49:03,120 --> 00:49:05,880
Speaker 2: watch this most recent this most recent season. This is

948
00:49:05,920 --> 00:49:10,840
Speaker 2: my experience with the show we watched, and my detailing

949
00:49:10,840 --> 00:49:13,279
Speaker 2: of this is going to be so painfully vague. There

950
00:49:13,320 --> 00:49:16,160
Speaker 2: were like two seasons on Netflix we didn't watch Herosen Villains.

951
00:49:16,320 --> 00:49:20,520
Speaker 2: Watched like something from twenty fourteen. Okay, great, loved it,

952
00:49:20,960 --> 00:49:25,880
Speaker 2: then jumped back to season two. I loved it, Season three,

953
00:49:26,640 --> 00:49:28,799
Speaker 2: loved it. I will say the seasons where they don't

954
00:49:28,800 --> 00:49:30,600
Speaker 2: have access to an ocean, I have a hard time

955
00:49:30,640 --> 00:49:35,640
Speaker 2: watching because everyone is so dusty all the time. Yeah, yeah,

956
00:49:35,680 --> 00:49:37,200
Speaker 2: I need to know these people who are like getting

957
00:49:37,239 --> 00:49:40,600
Speaker 2: into like salt water and scrubbing themselves off.

958
00:49:40,840 --> 00:49:41,760
Speaker 3: It's yeah.

959
00:49:42,000 --> 00:49:44,560
Speaker 2: I think like the Africa season was very hard because

960
00:49:44,800 --> 00:49:47,560
Speaker 2: they just hadn't They were so dirty all the time.

961
00:49:47,600 --> 00:49:50,560
Speaker 3: They were just covered in dust. Give these people an ocean.

962
00:49:51,320 --> 00:49:54,000
Speaker 3: Same with China, they were just really dirty the whole time.

963
00:49:54,640 --> 00:49:57,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, please please please give them access to something that

964
00:49:57,800 --> 00:49:59,879
Speaker 2: they'll be able to watch themselves. But I will say

965
00:50:00,040 --> 00:50:03,160
Speaker 2: season two and three are shocking to watch because it's

966
00:50:03,200 --> 00:50:06,120
Speaker 2: like a different show. I mean, like it's brutal. They're

967
00:50:06,200 --> 00:50:08,800
Speaker 2: killing animals, a guy falls into a fire and burns

968
00:50:08,800 --> 00:50:13,200
Speaker 2: his hands off. It's really wild to watch. Have you

969
00:50:13,239 --> 00:50:14,520
Speaker 2: seen any of the early seasons.

970
00:50:14,920 --> 00:50:17,440
Speaker 3: I think I watched the first when I was in like,

971
00:50:17,760 --> 00:50:21,719
Speaker 3: I don't know, elementary school, right, and I must have,

972
00:50:21,960 --> 00:50:24,439
Speaker 3: just I don't remember a single thing from them because

973
00:50:24,440 --> 00:50:29,359
Speaker 3: it probably was so shocking as a child to see, right.

974
00:50:30,200 --> 00:50:34,560
Speaker 2: My only experience with Survivor up until Pandemic was the

975
00:50:34,560 --> 00:50:40,640
Speaker 2: finale of season one. We watched Richard hatch Win, and

976
00:50:40,680 --> 00:50:42,640
Speaker 2: then I moved on with my life and so I'm revisiting.

977
00:50:42,719 --> 00:50:47,440
Speaker 2: But yet this most recent season, I was maybe two episodes,

978
00:50:47,440 --> 00:50:49,799
Speaker 2: and I had to give the amount of rules and

979
00:50:49,880 --> 00:50:52,320
Speaker 2: games that are now being played on this show. Yeah,

980
00:50:52,400 --> 00:50:56,560
Speaker 2: it has become like a puzzle box. Yeah it is

981
00:50:56,600 --> 00:50:57,080
Speaker 2: a little bit.

982
00:50:57,239 --> 00:50:57,600
Speaker 3: It is.

983
00:50:58,120 --> 00:51:01,000
Speaker 2: But Jeff Probe's fascinating person.

984
00:51:01,880 --> 00:51:04,719
Speaker 3: I I really admire him. I find him to be

985
00:51:04,920 --> 00:51:07,600
Speaker 3: so good at what he does, and he'll let it,

986
00:51:08,000 --> 00:51:13,280
Speaker 3: he loves it. But he his job requires so many

987
00:51:13,320 --> 00:51:15,359
Speaker 3: skill sets, and I feel like he excels in all

988
00:51:15,400 --> 00:51:15,719
Speaker 3: of them.

989
00:51:16,080 --> 00:51:18,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's I mean, I'm sure his hosting of the

990
00:51:18,600 --> 00:51:21,600
Speaker 2: show was basically kind of by accident. He was kind

991
00:51:21,600 --> 00:51:24,000
Speaker 2: of kind of a starter, and he's just perfect for

992
00:51:24,040 --> 00:51:27,120
Speaker 2: the job somehow, Like I don't either.

993
00:51:27,160 --> 00:51:28,960
Speaker 3: He was like born to do it or if like

994
00:51:29,000 --> 00:51:32,040
Speaker 3: he just picked up these things as he went right,

995
00:51:32,080 --> 00:51:32,239
Speaker 3: like you.

996
00:51:32,239 --> 00:51:35,840
Speaker 2: Know what I mean, whatever he's I mean, dream job.

997
00:51:36,120 --> 00:51:38,839
Speaker 3: Dream job, and like the I I have not seen

998
00:51:38,880 --> 00:51:40,120
Speaker 3: this season, but I think this is one of them

999
00:51:40,120 --> 00:51:45,600
Speaker 3: on Netflix where Zeke Smith gets outed at tribal Council.

1000
00:51:46,520 --> 00:51:49,560
Speaker 3: I'm not familiar with this for Okay, So there's this

1001
00:51:49,600 --> 00:51:54,239
Speaker 3: big controversy where Zeke Smith, who incidentally was a friend

1002
00:51:54,239 --> 00:51:57,000
Speaker 3: of mine before he was on the show, he was

1003
00:51:57,120 --> 00:52:01,600
Speaker 3: outed by one of his his try mates. Oh my god,

1004
00:52:02,120 --> 00:52:04,560
Speaker 3: in the Tribal Council and it was shocking, and it

1005
00:52:04,600 --> 00:52:07,080
Speaker 3: was this incredible moment of television that was just so

1006
00:52:07,160 --> 00:52:10,279
Speaker 3: painful obviously for Zeke, but he handled it sort of

1007
00:52:10,320 --> 00:52:13,799
Speaker 3: so so well. And Jeff also knew exactly what to

1008
00:52:13,800 --> 00:52:15,480
Speaker 3: do in that conversation where he was like wait, like

1009
00:52:15,560 --> 00:52:19,040
Speaker 3: this is this is insane and like basically asked this

1010
00:52:19,080 --> 00:52:21,840
Speaker 3: person to leave. Was just like oh, he was like,

1011
00:52:21,840 --> 00:52:23,680
Speaker 3: we don't even have to do the voting, like we

1012
00:52:24,000 --> 00:52:25,120
Speaker 3: all know what's happening here.

1013
00:52:25,400 --> 00:52:27,080
Speaker 2: Oh my god, I have to see this.

1014
00:52:27,239 --> 00:52:31,440
Speaker 3: It's actually it's it's pretty riveting. I will it's obviously

1015
00:52:31,440 --> 00:52:34,440
Speaker 3: like it should not have happened, and Zeke has like

1016
00:52:34,560 --> 00:52:37,960
Speaker 3: really talked at length about this, but there's something in

1017
00:52:37,960 --> 00:52:42,000
Speaker 3: the way that Jeff like steers the conversation and is

1018
00:52:42,040 --> 00:52:44,399
Speaker 3: able to like really make sure that Zeke is taken

1019
00:52:44,440 --> 00:52:47,440
Speaker 3: care of. Before he's able to he opens up a

1020
00:52:47,480 --> 00:52:49,239
Speaker 3: door for everyone to be like, why the fuck would

1021
00:52:49,280 --> 00:52:52,080
Speaker 3: you do that? Wow, it's pretty incredible.

1022
00:52:52,200 --> 00:52:53,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, well I need to see it.

1023
00:52:53,920 --> 00:52:55,919
Speaker 3: Yeah, anyway, I haven't seen the whole season, but even

1024
00:52:56,719 --> 00:52:59,240
Speaker 3: lacking that context, it's it's very interesting to watch.

1025
00:52:59,560 --> 00:53:02,000
Speaker 2: I mean, I mean the contestants on the show, I

1026
00:53:02,000 --> 00:53:04,280
Speaker 2: mean they're all over the place, especially these early seasons

1027
00:53:04,320 --> 00:53:06,840
Speaker 2: like go Back, You're like, oh, I wonder what happened

1028
00:53:06,840 --> 00:53:08,640
Speaker 2: to that person? You look them up twenty years later,

1029
00:53:08,760 --> 00:53:11,040
Speaker 2: it's like, oh, they're like a child molester now.

1030
00:53:11,040 --> 00:53:13,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, sure, Or they're Elizabeth Hasselback ye I oh.

1031
00:53:13,840 --> 00:53:17,000
Speaker 2: I mean that what a thing. That is the fact

1032
00:53:17,080 --> 00:53:19,840
Speaker 2: that she's like a seventeen year old or whatever in

1033
00:53:19,880 --> 00:53:22,880
Speaker 2: that season and is now the devil is now the devil.

1034
00:53:23,480 --> 00:53:26,880
Speaker 2: Very interesting transformation. Is there anything else we need to

1035
00:53:26,920 --> 00:53:30,959
Speaker 2: say about Hansen Powder? We don't, Okay, we.

1036
00:53:30,880 --> 00:53:33,399
Speaker 3: Really don't think. I think you've I think we've really

1037
00:53:33,440 --> 00:53:36,880
Speaker 3: sort of done an expository look at like shower and

1038
00:53:37,000 --> 00:53:40,759
Speaker 3: bath culture. So I think I think we've covered all

1039
00:53:40,800 --> 00:53:41,280
Speaker 3: our bases.

1040
00:53:41,320 --> 00:53:44,400
Speaker 2: I'm so excited about it. I think it's time to

1041
00:53:44,440 --> 00:53:47,120
Speaker 2: play a game. Okay, do you want to play? Actually,

1042
00:53:47,160 --> 00:53:48,920
Speaker 2: that's my gift to a curse. I'll tell you how

1043
00:53:49,239 --> 00:53:50,759
Speaker 2: how to play it when we get into it. I

1044
00:53:50,760 --> 00:53:54,080
Speaker 2: need a number between one and ten six. Okay, I

1045
00:53:54,080 --> 00:53:57,880
Speaker 2: have to do some light calculating. You can recommend something,

1046
00:53:57,880 --> 00:53:59,600
Speaker 2: you can promote something, do whatever you want.

1047
00:53:59,640 --> 00:54:05,160
Speaker 3: I'll be I recommend Pokemon Legends Archaeiss, now available on Switch.

1048
00:54:06,400 --> 00:54:11,279
Speaker 3: You can watch your Sindqui evolve into Aquilava, which then

1049
00:54:11,280 --> 00:54:17,200
Speaker 3: evolves into a Typhlosion, which in this redesign looks so crazy,

1050
00:54:17,719 --> 00:54:21,359
Speaker 3: like why did they make this choice to make Typhlosion

1051
00:54:21,480 --> 00:54:27,440
Speaker 3: look again like depressed and stoned. I don't know. I

1052
00:54:27,800 --> 00:54:30,400
Speaker 3: just really have a lot of questions. I'd love to

1053
00:54:30,400 --> 00:54:32,839
Speaker 3: sit down with the people at game freaking Nintendo to

1054
00:54:32,960 --> 00:54:36,640
Speaker 3: really ask them to explain some of these design choices.

1055
00:54:37,440 --> 00:54:41,080
Speaker 2: Beautiful. Wait, I didn't ask you what Pokemon you your

1056
00:54:41,120 --> 00:54:42,480
Speaker 2: starter Pokemon was?

1057
00:54:42,480 --> 00:54:43,680
Speaker 3: Was? It was in fact a Sindequila?

1058
00:54:43,800 --> 00:54:44,399
Speaker 2: What about you?

1059
00:54:44,520 --> 00:54:47,360
Speaker 3: Is that the fire one? Yes, that's who I picked.

1060
00:54:48,320 --> 00:54:55,200
Speaker 3: It looks great looking, little creature. Very sweet, you bo.

1061
00:54:55,239 --> 00:54:57,319
Speaker 2: When this is how gift or a curse works, I'm

1062
00:54:57,320 --> 00:54:59,600
Speaker 2: going to name three things you're gonna tell me if

1063
00:54:59,600 --> 00:55:02,319
Speaker 2: they're a gift to our curse and why there are

1064
00:55:02,440 --> 00:55:06,640
Speaker 2: absolutely correct answers to this game. You can lose. So

1065
00:55:06,719 --> 00:55:09,640
Speaker 2: many people have lost this game, and it's just shattering

1066
00:55:10,320 --> 00:55:14,000
Speaker 2: to think about. So be careful. Okay, okay. Number one,

1067
00:55:14,000 --> 00:55:17,560
Speaker 2: this is a listener's suggestion. Somebody named Doug has written

1068
00:55:17,600 --> 00:55:22,440
Speaker 2: in gift or a curse. Chance encounters gift.

1069
00:55:22,680 --> 00:55:28,840
Speaker 3: I feel like a chance encounter implies like welcoming something.

1070
00:55:30,040 --> 00:55:33,880
Speaker 3: If it's an unfavorable chance encounter, then you wouldn't call

1071
00:55:33,920 --> 00:55:37,680
Speaker 3: it a chad encounter. I feel like it's a gift.

1072
00:55:37,719 --> 00:55:40,800
Speaker 2: It's usually a gift beautifully played.

1073
00:55:41,120 --> 00:55:41,640
Speaker 3: Okay, great.

1074
00:55:41,680 --> 00:55:44,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, you don't have a chance encounter with a murderer. No,

1075
00:55:45,160 --> 00:55:49,000
Speaker 2: I had a chance encounter with my attacker. No. You

1076
00:55:49,000 --> 00:55:51,759
Speaker 2: have a chance encounter with somebody that you enjoyed from

1077
00:55:51,800 --> 00:55:55,799
Speaker 2: your past or someone who may you know help you

1078
00:55:55,840 --> 00:55:56,480
Speaker 2: on your way.

1079
00:55:57,040 --> 00:55:59,480
Speaker 3: Yes, never with an enemy.

1080
00:55:59,560 --> 00:56:02,960
Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, no, it's definitely a gift. I mean,

1081
00:56:03,320 --> 00:56:06,719
Speaker 2: what's the word for random run in.

1082
00:56:08,760 --> 00:56:11,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, like run in. I think run in.

1083
00:56:11,560 --> 00:56:13,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think a run in sounds kind of violent

1084
00:56:13,840 --> 00:56:16,080
Speaker 2: and unhappy. It's like, oh, I had to run in

1085
00:56:16,120 --> 00:56:18,239
Speaker 2: with a coworker that I thought I even never see

1086
00:56:18,280 --> 00:56:21,920
Speaker 2: again exactly, and then we had to talk and his

1087
00:56:22,040 --> 00:56:24,799
Speaker 2: husband was there and I hate him too. That kind

1088
00:56:24,840 --> 00:56:30,719
Speaker 2: of thing. Chance encounter, Yeah, lovely, absolutely, Okay, Okay, you

1089
00:56:30,800 --> 00:56:33,320
Speaker 2: got one out of one so far. Very nice. Number

1090
00:56:33,320 --> 00:56:36,360
Speaker 2: two gift or a curse? Bucket hats.

1091
00:56:38,640 --> 00:56:43,799
Speaker 3: This, I will say is a curse, because there is

1092
00:56:44,400 --> 00:56:48,839
Speaker 3: I'm going to say it, there is an able ism

1093
00:56:49,239 --> 00:56:56,359
Speaker 3: to bucket hats for people with large skulls, and there's

1094
00:56:56,440 --> 00:56:58,680
Speaker 3: no such thing as a bucket hat large enough to

1095
00:56:58,760 --> 00:57:04,799
Speaker 3: make someone with big head like me look good. So

1096
00:57:04,840 --> 00:57:09,359
Speaker 3: it's a curse. Oh my god, I'm not gonna let

1097
00:57:09,400 --> 00:57:11,600
Speaker 3: you win this game, but you have gotten two out

1098
00:57:11,640 --> 00:57:12,399
Speaker 3: of two so far.

1099
00:57:13,200 --> 00:57:17,400
Speaker 2: The return of the bucket hat who is famously worn.

1100
00:57:17,560 --> 00:57:20,280
Speaker 2: It's like, uh, it's a curse. Okay, let's be Clario's

1101
00:57:20,320 --> 00:57:20,600
Speaker 2: a curse.

1102
00:57:21,080 --> 00:57:25,960
Speaker 3: It's like Woody Allen Jamarkuai are these the two most

1103
00:57:26,000 --> 00:57:30,640
Speaker 3: famous bucket hat wearers? And I can't think of anyone else.

1104
00:57:30,880 --> 00:57:32,400
Speaker 2: The guy on Gilligan's Island.

1105
00:57:32,880 --> 00:57:36,000
Speaker 3: Oh, honesly is saying something? Would she say she's the

1106
00:57:36,000 --> 00:57:38,880
Speaker 3: guy from the New Radicals, of course? Oh yes, the

1107
00:57:38,960 --> 00:57:39,959
Speaker 3: cover on the cover.

1108
00:57:40,280 --> 00:57:42,640
Speaker 2: Yes, that's maybe the most famous bucket hat of all.

1109
00:57:43,280 --> 00:57:46,160
Speaker 3: I can't think of anyone. Did Harriet the Spy wear one.

1110
00:57:46,360 --> 00:57:49,120
Speaker 2: Oh that's an interesting I feel like, uh, you know,

1111
00:57:49,280 --> 00:57:52,400
Speaker 2: teen and tween girls can wear a bucket hat, but

1112
00:57:52,480 --> 00:57:55,080
Speaker 2: for the rest of us, let it go. It's a

1113
00:57:55,160 --> 00:57:58,760
Speaker 2: hideous looking thing. It makes everyone look bad, and we're

1114
00:57:58,800 --> 00:58:01,880
Speaker 2: gonna regret it. I've we did it before in nineteen

1115
00:58:01,960 --> 00:58:05,920
Speaker 2: ninety eight. For years, everyone regretted it, and now they're back.

1116
00:58:06,200 --> 00:58:07,480
Speaker 2: We're gonna regret it again.

1117
00:58:07,800 --> 00:58:10,160
Speaker 3: Oh god, yeah, they look.

1118
00:58:10,360 --> 00:58:11,960
Speaker 2: I mean now I'm thinking I feel like I've seen

1119
00:58:12,040 --> 00:58:13,800
Speaker 2: Diane Keaton in a bucket hat.

1120
00:58:14,160 --> 00:58:18,440
Speaker 3: No, it's not a bucket hat like like you mean

1121
00:58:18,480 --> 00:58:23,960
Speaker 3: in like something's gotta give, right, I'm picturing her when

1122
00:58:24,000 --> 00:58:26,280
Speaker 3: she's walking down the beach with Jack Nicholson. Yeah, she

1123
00:58:26,360 --> 00:58:27,520
Speaker 3: might be wearing a bucket hat.

1124
00:58:27,760 --> 00:58:29,720
Speaker 2: I guess hers is more of like a beach hat,

1125
00:58:29,760 --> 00:58:33,000
Speaker 2: a woman's beach hat. Yeah, yeah, hold on, beause I'm

1126
00:58:33,000 --> 00:58:36,600
Speaker 2: looking this up too. I can't imagine her in like

1127
00:58:37,040 --> 00:58:41,520
Speaker 2: a bucket hat. She bought it pack son, You know, right, well,

1128
00:58:41,560 --> 00:58:44,400
Speaker 2: she is okay, she's wearing a white bucket hat. She

1129
00:58:44,480 --> 00:58:48,480
Speaker 2: absolutely is. Well, but did it look good on her?

1130
00:58:48,720 --> 00:58:49,720
Speaker 2: She looks good at it?

1131
00:58:50,440 --> 00:58:55,200
Speaker 3: I think, And this is this is the Nancy Meyers thing,

1132
00:58:56,280 --> 00:58:59,320
Speaker 3: is that the store, the plot point was turtlenecks in

1133
00:58:59,320 --> 00:59:02,160
Speaker 3: that movie. Do you remember have you seen this?

1134
00:59:02,400 --> 00:59:02,760
Speaker 2: No?

1135
00:59:03,120 --> 00:59:06,800
Speaker 3: Okay, it's a whole narrative device that she wears, that

1136
00:59:06,840 --> 00:59:10,440
Speaker 3: her character loves turtlenecks, and so to add one more

1137
00:59:10,520 --> 00:59:14,120
Speaker 3: sort of polarizing, not that tournaments or that polarizing, but

1138
00:59:14,560 --> 00:59:19,040
Speaker 3: for her character to wear this other really distinct piece

1139
00:59:19,080 --> 00:59:21,040
Speaker 3: of clothing as I think too much.

1140
00:59:21,560 --> 00:59:24,640
Speaker 2: It's but I think you put that much on and

1141
00:59:24,680 --> 00:59:27,520
Speaker 2: you come back around and it works. Maybe I think

1142
00:59:27,560 --> 00:59:29,160
Speaker 2: that may be the intended.

1143
00:59:29,640 --> 00:59:31,840
Speaker 3: The fact that we're having this discussion, the fact that

1144
00:59:31,840 --> 00:59:35,480
Speaker 3: we're arguing about whether or not this bucket hat works

1145
00:59:35,480 --> 00:59:37,960
Speaker 3: on her, means that it doesn't work. It means that

1146
00:59:38,000 --> 00:59:43,360
Speaker 3: bucket hats don't work on anybody. Curse, curse for everybody.

1147
00:59:43,760 --> 00:59:46,680
Speaker 2: That's the final word. I absolutely agree. I'm you know,

1148
00:59:46,720 --> 00:59:48,520
Speaker 2: this will be the beginning. I'm hoping that we can

1149
00:59:48,600 --> 00:59:52,760
Speaker 2: kind of just nip bucketheads bucket hats in the This

1150
00:59:52,800 --> 00:59:55,000
Speaker 2: is such a difficult thing to say, nip it in

1151
00:59:55,040 --> 00:59:57,880
Speaker 2: the bud with the bucket hats. Let's just get them out,

1152
00:59:58,080 --> 01:00:01,880
Speaker 2: move on fashion, can you know, leave it alone?

1153
01:00:02,080 --> 01:00:02,680
Speaker 3: Leave it alone?

1154
01:00:02,720 --> 01:00:06,040
Speaker 2: Two out of two this is terrific. I mean whatever, Okay,

1155
01:00:06,160 --> 01:00:09,280
Speaker 2: Number three gift or a curse? Now, this is an

1156
01:00:09,320 --> 01:00:14,000
Speaker 2: interesting one. Pop culture cookbooks, I e. Recipes from Harry Potter.

1157
01:00:14,200 --> 01:00:16,440
Speaker 2: You go out and buy a cookbook and it's like

1158
01:00:17,080 --> 01:00:19,320
Speaker 2: Harry Potter's stew or whatever.

1159
01:00:20,400 --> 01:00:28,480
Speaker 3: Harry Potter stu sounds disgusting. I feel like it's I

1160
01:00:28,520 --> 01:00:28,960
Speaker 3: feel like that.

1161
01:00:29,160 --> 01:00:31,560
Speaker 2: I feel like you're you're feeding me easy ones because

1162
01:00:31,560 --> 01:00:33,920
Speaker 2: I feel like these are pretty randomly chosen.

1163
01:00:34,800 --> 01:00:37,600
Speaker 3: Okay, that's why you take the number I feel like,

1164
01:00:37,760 --> 01:00:41,600
Speaker 3: I mean, they're always such clear marketing ploise and I

1165
01:00:41,600 --> 01:00:43,360
Speaker 3: feel like they must be considered curses.

1166
01:00:44,240 --> 01:00:45,280
Speaker 2: Is that your final answer?

1167
01:00:45,520 --> 01:00:52,200
Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, you're furious these is So this is the

1168
01:00:52,240 --> 01:00:55,560
Speaker 3: problem I've given you three. I mean, actually, there's no

1169
01:00:55,720 --> 01:00:56,760
Speaker 3: there's no arguing here.

1170
01:00:56,880 --> 01:01:00,280
Speaker 2: They're not really easy. But look, I can't there's no

1171
01:01:00,320 --> 01:01:02,800
Speaker 2: way I can argue that pop culture cookbooks are a gift.

1172
01:01:02,800 --> 01:01:05,360
Speaker 2: There's just not there's there's not an honest place to

1173
01:01:05,400 --> 01:01:09,720
Speaker 2: begin with with this. What anyone that buys one of these?

1174
01:01:09,760 --> 01:01:12,440
Speaker 2: What are you doing? What are you doing these things?

1175
01:01:12,720 --> 01:01:16,680
Speaker 2: Who is the recipe genius behind these? You trust somebody?

1176
01:01:18,160 --> 01:01:18,240
Speaker 3: What?

1177
01:01:19,280 --> 01:01:20,360
Speaker 2: I don't even know where to begin.

1178
01:01:20,960 --> 01:01:23,240
Speaker 3: I mean, do you have, like, like off the top

1179
01:01:23,240 --> 01:01:28,480
Speaker 3: of your head, like your favorite book, series, TV show, movie,

1180
01:01:28,720 --> 01:01:30,200
Speaker 3: video game of all time.

1181
01:01:30,840 --> 01:01:33,360
Speaker 2: That I would want a cookbook from? Like, is there

1182
01:01:33,360 --> 01:01:33,880
Speaker 2: a universe?

1183
01:01:33,960 --> 01:01:35,680
Speaker 3: Is there a world that you love, a fictional world

1184
01:01:35,680 --> 01:01:37,120
Speaker 3: that you love so much that you're like, I got

1185
01:01:37,120 --> 01:01:38,320
Speaker 3: to eat the food from that?

1186
01:01:38,520 --> 01:01:41,439
Speaker 2: Absolutely not, There you go. There's not a single one

1187
01:01:41,480 --> 01:01:45,080
Speaker 2: where I'm like, I need to replicate what I'm watching

1188
01:01:45,120 --> 01:01:49,040
Speaker 2: a character eat, Yes, let alone from probably like a

1189
01:01:49,160 --> 01:01:53,440
Speaker 2: ninth string cookbook author who is ghost written this thing. No,

1190
01:01:53,560 --> 01:01:53,920
Speaker 2: thank you.

1191
01:01:54,680 --> 01:01:58,120
Speaker 3: There's no fictional food that's that could be as good

1192
01:01:58,200 --> 01:01:59,800
Speaker 3: or better than the food that we already have.

1193
01:02:00,200 --> 01:02:03,439
Speaker 2: Well, and also it's just going to be disappointing. It's

1194
01:02:03,440 --> 01:02:05,280
Speaker 2: not going to be as good as what you imagined

1195
01:02:05,280 --> 01:02:08,240
Speaker 2: it would be, and it's just a sad situation. Just

1196
01:02:08,280 --> 01:02:10,640
Speaker 2: by a regular cookbook. There you go.

1197
01:02:10,760 --> 01:02:13,320
Speaker 3: If I'm making the thing it's not going to turn

1198
01:02:13,400 --> 01:02:18,120
Speaker 3: out well, And that's like such a dumb like uh

1199
01:02:18,240 --> 01:02:21,120
Speaker 3: burn like self brand. But I mean, like, why would

1200
01:02:21,160 --> 01:02:23,760
Speaker 3: you trust yourself to make this thing that was I

1201
01:02:23,760 --> 01:02:26,480
Speaker 3: don't know, like that that didn't exist before this book

1202
01:02:26,560 --> 01:02:26,960
Speaker 3: was written.

1203
01:02:27,320 --> 01:02:30,400
Speaker 2: Right, we saw like some prop person put together a

1204
01:02:30,400 --> 01:02:33,280
Speaker 2: piece of food. There was no recipe for that, right,

1205
01:02:33,800 --> 01:02:37,680
Speaker 2: it was just made to look good on screen. And

1206
01:02:37,760 --> 01:02:42,760
Speaker 2: now we're like cooking up I don't know, Dumbledore whatever

1207
01:02:42,880 --> 01:02:47,800
Speaker 2: balls meatball right, double door meat on me. Actually, I

1208
01:02:47,840 --> 01:02:50,560
Speaker 2: take all of this back. I would like to have

1209
01:02:50,600 --> 01:02:52,960
Speaker 2: a recipe for the food I was throwing at the Pokemon.

1210
01:02:53,720 --> 01:02:56,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, I want to know what those balls of food

1211
01:02:56,720 --> 01:03:00,160
Speaker 3: that I was able to subdue a magical creature, a

1212
01:03:00,280 --> 01:03:06,640
Speaker 3: giant rock bug with scissor hands, with scissor axe hens

1213
01:03:06,800 --> 01:03:07,320
Speaker 3: ax hans.

1214
01:03:07,360 --> 01:03:10,760
Speaker 2: That's right, that's right, Thank you for keeping me honest. Well, okay,

1215
01:03:10,800 --> 01:03:12,720
Speaker 2: I mean look, I think there are like four or

1216
01:03:12,720 --> 01:03:15,360
Speaker 2: five people who have won this game before. It's disgusting

1217
01:03:15,400 --> 01:03:17,160
Speaker 2: that you were able to just kind of stomp in

1218
01:03:17,200 --> 01:03:21,720
Speaker 2: here and win. Sorry, but you know, we'll chalk it

1219
01:03:21,800 --> 01:03:22,840
Speaker 2: up to lock of the draw.

1220
01:03:23,560 --> 01:03:24,840
Speaker 3: Yes, bo.

1221
01:03:24,880 --> 01:03:26,960
Speaker 2: When this is the final segment of the podcast, it's

1222
01:03:26,960 --> 01:03:29,880
Speaker 2: called I said no emails people right into I said

1223
01:03:29,880 --> 01:03:33,120
Speaker 2: no gifts at gmail dot com. All of them have

1224
01:03:33,160 --> 01:03:36,720
Speaker 2: these pathetic situations that need solving. Will you answer one

1225
01:03:36,760 --> 01:03:37,000
Speaker 2: with me?

1226
01:03:37,280 --> 01:03:38,000
Speaker 3: I'd be happy to.

1227
01:03:38,400 --> 01:03:41,960
Speaker 2: Okay, this is what this says, says Hi Bridger and whoever.

1228
01:03:42,400 --> 01:03:45,240
Speaker 2: So that's that's me. I don't know. That's kind of insulting.

1229
01:03:45,280 --> 01:03:48,080
Speaker 2: I don't know, that's okay. Today I got the shocking

1230
01:03:48,200 --> 01:03:51,240
Speaker 2: and delightful news that my friend Matt is now a parent.

1231
01:03:51,920 --> 01:03:54,800
Speaker 2: He and his husband adopted a foster kid two weeks ago.

1232
01:03:54,880 --> 01:03:58,280
Speaker 2: Congratulations to Matt. That's for me. This is a normal,

1233
01:03:58,600 --> 01:04:00,880
Speaker 2: normal thing for humans to do. But then he told

1234
01:04:00,960 --> 01:04:04,480
Speaker 2: me his son is nine years old. Okay. I was

1235
01:04:04,520 --> 01:04:07,560
Speaker 2: tickled and surprised because we're in our late twenties and

1236
01:04:07,600 --> 01:04:09,800
Speaker 2: this boy was born a year after we graduated from

1237
01:04:09,880 --> 01:04:12,720
Speaker 2: high school. Okay, this is all just the march of

1238
01:04:12,760 --> 01:04:16,240
Speaker 2: time we're talking about. You know, we're all in the

1239
01:04:16,360 --> 01:04:19,560
Speaker 2: river of time. It doesn't matter. Does one get a

1240
01:04:19,600 --> 01:04:21,360
Speaker 2: gift for a new parent of a nine year old?

1241
01:04:21,480 --> 01:04:24,160
Speaker 2: Is the gift for the parents or the child? What

1242
01:04:24,520 --> 01:04:26,560
Speaker 2: is a nine year old like in twenty twenty two?

1243
01:04:26,560 --> 01:04:29,080
Speaker 2: I have no idea Matt and I were good friends

1244
01:04:29,080 --> 01:04:31,200
Speaker 2: in high school, but we lost touch for a decade

1245
01:04:31,280 --> 01:04:33,560
Speaker 2: until a few months ago when he started talking. We

1246
01:04:33,600 --> 01:04:37,000
Speaker 2: started talking again casually. All I know about his life

1247
01:04:37,040 --> 01:04:40,200
Speaker 2: these days is that he's married. He's a meteorologist, oh

1248
01:04:40,520 --> 01:04:45,480
Speaker 2: I hope on television, and his husband's name is also Matt. Well,

1249
01:04:46,000 --> 01:04:49,640
Speaker 2: his husband's name is also Matt. This is becoming. The details,

1250
01:04:50,160 --> 01:04:53,560
Speaker 2: the way that they're kind of being laid out is interesting.

1251
01:04:54,080 --> 01:04:58,760
Speaker 2: I'll take any advice or suggestions you have. Thanks a million, Kevin. Okay,

1252
01:05:00,000 --> 01:05:02,280
Speaker 2: there's so much going on here. First of all, let's

1253
01:05:02,320 --> 01:05:04,560
Speaker 2: just say, yes, you get a gift for the nine

1254
01:05:04,640 --> 01:05:07,040
Speaker 2: year old, you get a gift for the parent. Yes,

1255
01:05:08,200 --> 01:05:09,880
Speaker 2: I mean I think we get an award for the

1256
01:05:09,920 --> 01:05:13,320
Speaker 2: parent to adopt a nine year old. What a challenge,

1257
01:05:13,360 --> 01:05:14,640
Speaker 2: What an incredible thing to do.

1258
01:05:14,800 --> 01:05:16,480
Speaker 3: Incredible, incredible.

1259
01:05:16,920 --> 01:05:20,080
Speaker 2: I mean that said, he's kind of been mysteriously gone

1260
01:05:20,120 --> 01:05:21,720
Speaker 2: for a decade and shows up with a nine year

1261
01:05:21,720 --> 01:05:25,800
Speaker 2: old son, and we don't know what this meteorologist is

1262
01:05:25,920 --> 01:05:26,160
Speaker 2: up to.

1263
01:05:27,200 --> 01:05:29,200
Speaker 3: And I will say, I agree with you, this is

1264
01:05:29,240 --> 01:05:33,560
Speaker 3: such a beautiful thing to do. I will say, to

1265
01:05:33,600 --> 01:05:37,240
Speaker 3: have two parents named Matt have a nine year old son,

1266
01:05:37,320 --> 01:05:39,280
Speaker 3: and for the parents to be in their late twenties.

1267
01:05:39,800 --> 01:05:41,720
Speaker 3: That sounds like a Sims house. It sounds like a

1268
01:05:41,760 --> 01:05:48,520
Speaker 3: Sims house. I commend these people for what they've done,

1269
01:05:49,120 --> 01:05:53,400
Speaker 3: for literally saving a life, but I don't know. I

1270
01:05:53,400 --> 01:05:55,320
Speaker 3: don't know. But of course get the gift. But also

1271
01:05:55,360 --> 01:05:58,320
Speaker 3: if you're only on a casual sort of if you're

1272
01:05:58,320 --> 01:06:00,880
Speaker 3: only on casual terms with them still, I don't know that.

1273
01:06:01,240 --> 01:06:03,720
Speaker 2: I feel like that's that's that's up to them. Yeah,

1274
01:06:03,760 --> 01:06:05,600
Speaker 2: it's up to Kevin. That's up to Kevin. It's up

1275
01:06:05,680 --> 01:06:08,040
Speaker 2: to Kevin. I mean, is the gift for the parents

1276
01:06:08,040 --> 01:06:09,840
Speaker 2: of the child. I think it's for both. I think

1277
01:06:10,000 --> 01:06:12,560
Speaker 2: actually this is way better than a baby situation, because

1278
01:06:12,600 --> 01:06:14,280
Speaker 2: like a nine year old you can zero in on

1279
01:06:14,320 --> 01:06:16,040
Speaker 2: a toy, you can do you know what the baby

1280
01:06:16,080 --> 01:06:18,440
Speaker 2: you're getting onesies or whatever. That's just like the most

1281
01:06:18,480 --> 01:06:22,960
Speaker 2: boring shit I know. I know, Action figures, Pokemon. What

1282
01:06:23,120 --> 01:06:24,840
Speaker 2: is a nine year old like in twenty twenty two?

1283
01:06:25,520 --> 01:06:27,320
Speaker 3: See I see it? This is actually I do I

1284
01:06:27,480 --> 01:06:29,560
Speaker 3: I okay, So I'm glad you're getting guidance on this

1285
01:06:29,560 --> 01:06:31,960
Speaker 3: because I don't I think I have any on what

1286
01:06:32,000 --> 01:06:33,040
Speaker 3: a nine year old likes.

1287
01:06:33,240 --> 01:06:36,920
Speaker 2: I mean, I just assume. I just think back. I

1288
01:06:36,920 --> 01:06:39,280
Speaker 2: don't know. Nine year old's like toys.

1289
01:06:39,000 --> 01:06:41,400
Speaker 3: Right, they like Transformers.

1290
01:06:41,560 --> 01:06:43,840
Speaker 2: I mean, this person has been brought into this kind

1291
01:06:43,880 --> 01:06:49,480
Speaker 2: of bizarre Matt Matt marriage, so they're probably gonna need

1292
01:06:49,600 --> 01:06:54,200
Speaker 2: just some level of comfort and security. A book.

1293
01:06:54,440 --> 01:06:58,320
Speaker 3: No, see, I'm so bad at this sleeping now.

1294
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Speaker 2: Probably know that Matt and that have like a pile

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01:07:01,040 --> 01:07:03,120
Speaker 2: of hay for this kid to sleep on. Yes, how

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01:07:03,120 --> 01:07:05,840
Speaker 2: about a fun sleeping bag with the nine year old's

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01:07:05,840 --> 01:07:13,200
Speaker 2: favorite you know character man? Come on, Batman, Superman, We've

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01:07:13,240 --> 01:07:15,600
Speaker 2: got spider Man, Lego.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, oh, Lego, set a Lego said, Lego's great.

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01:07:20,320 --> 01:07:21,400
Speaker 2: Children love Lego.

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01:07:22,480 --> 01:07:26,920
Speaker 3: There you go, don't Yeah. I feel like they can

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01:07:27,000 --> 01:07:29,520
Speaker 3: keep it simple. And then and then I guess Kevin's

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01:07:29,560 --> 01:07:31,040
Speaker 3: asking what about for the parents?

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01:07:31,400 --> 01:07:34,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess for the parents honestly.

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01:07:34,400 --> 01:07:37,280
Speaker 3: You know, you know what I say, Late twenties parents,

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01:07:37,640 --> 01:07:39,760
Speaker 3: nine year old kid, You get him a switch.

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01:07:40,480 --> 01:07:43,720
Speaker 2: Everybody's having a good time immediately, everyone's having a good time. Yes,

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01:07:43,760 --> 01:07:45,920
Speaker 2: although it's just I feel like Kevin's a bad I mean,

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01:07:46,080 --> 01:07:48,200
Speaker 2: let's just put it out there. Kevin is a bad friend.

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01:07:48,560 --> 01:07:52,960
Speaker 2: He's been out of touch. He's obviously jealous of the meteorology. Yeah,

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01:07:53,160 --> 01:07:56,000
Speaker 2: he's probably trying to break this up to get to

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01:07:56,080 --> 01:08:01,640
Speaker 2: one of the Mats. Kevin is obviously just behind in life.

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01:08:02,040 --> 01:08:05,600
Speaker 3: Sure, yeah, what do you think? How do you think

1314
01:08:05,760 --> 01:08:13,000
Speaker 3: Kevin started up this rekindling with Matt chance encounter, chance encounter.

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01:08:14,640 --> 01:08:16,880
Speaker 2: It feels close to me that, you know, he was

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01:08:16,880 --> 01:08:20,000
Speaker 2: probably like, you know, thumbing through a book at the

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01:08:20,040 --> 01:08:24,160
Speaker 2: bookstore and like like see something come into his periphery

1318
01:08:24,200 --> 01:08:25,920
Speaker 2: and it's like, oh, who is this? He looks up.

1319
01:08:26,320 --> 01:08:30,759
Speaker 2: It's Matt. It's Matt, and then Matt immediately unloads. I

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01:08:30,840 --> 01:08:33,800
Speaker 2: just adopted a nine year old. I need your help,

1321
01:08:35,200 --> 01:08:37,639
Speaker 2: and this is their best bet was to write into

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01:08:37,720 --> 01:08:41,720
Speaker 2: this podcast. I mean, I feel like best wishes to

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01:08:41,760 --> 01:08:43,360
Speaker 2: the nine year old. I feel like the three men

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01:08:43,400 --> 01:08:46,320
Speaker 2: in this situation are deeply irresponsible.

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01:08:47,280 --> 01:08:49,719
Speaker 3: You mean you mean Kevin, mattin Mat or Matt Matt, Kevin.

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01:08:49,520 --> 01:08:52,120
Speaker 2: Matt and Matt. You mean, hey, great, great, great. They're

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01:08:52,160 --> 01:08:55,920
Speaker 2: obviously relying on me and you at this point to

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01:08:56,320 --> 01:08:59,560
Speaker 2: salvage whatever this bizarre There was obviously some sort of

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01:08:59,640 --> 01:09:03,479
Speaker 2: rift at some point the ten years. Kevin, I mean,

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01:09:03,640 --> 01:09:05,479
Speaker 2: god knows what's going to end up happening, but this

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01:09:05,600 --> 01:09:07,640
Speaker 2: nine year old will make it out alive. Get him

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01:09:07,640 --> 01:09:08,360
Speaker 2: a sleeping bag.

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01:09:08,560 --> 01:09:09,439
Speaker 3: Get him a sleeping bag.

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01:09:09,520 --> 01:09:12,360
Speaker 2: Kids love sleeping bags. They do well, they'll they'll need

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01:09:12,360 --> 01:09:12,680
Speaker 2: them at.

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01:09:12,640 --> 01:09:14,439
Speaker 3: Some point for the sleepovers that they go.

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01:09:14,600 --> 01:09:17,479
Speaker 2: Right, you can write it down the stairs. Yes, makes

1338
01:09:17,479 --> 01:09:21,360
Speaker 2: you feel like you're camping. You wake up covered in sweat. Ugh,

1339
01:09:21,600 --> 01:09:22,879
Speaker 2: the best, the best.

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01:09:23,200 --> 01:09:27,839
Speaker 3: I do want to again apologize for the Sims family

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01:09:27,960 --> 01:09:30,360
Speaker 3: comment and just do you know what I mean? It's like,

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01:09:30,880 --> 01:09:34,160
Speaker 3: I mean, it makes perfect and it is such a

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01:09:34,320 --> 01:09:37,719
Speaker 3: beautiful radical image of a family that like I don't

1344
01:09:37,760 --> 01:09:41,360
Speaker 3: mean to like completely make it something so alien like,

1345
01:09:41,400 --> 01:09:43,240
Speaker 3: but like, you know, something not real.

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01:09:44,040 --> 01:09:44,439
Speaker 2: It is.

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01:09:44,600 --> 01:09:46,439
Speaker 3: I just think it's like something that I would have

1348
01:09:46,520 --> 01:09:48,599
Speaker 3: dreamed up when I was playing the Sims exactly.

1349
01:09:48,640 --> 01:09:50,680
Speaker 2: It's one hundred percent that I mean. And then I

1350
01:09:50,720 --> 01:09:52,559
Speaker 2: think that the real detail here is the Matt and

1351
01:09:52,600 --> 01:09:53,120
Speaker 2: Mad of it.

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01:09:53,520 --> 01:09:54,120
Speaker 3: Matt and Matt.

1353
01:09:54,200 --> 01:09:56,800
Speaker 2: You simply cannot marry someone with your first name.

1354
01:09:57,640 --> 01:09:59,559
Speaker 3: People do it all the time, and yet I still

1355
01:09:59,600 --> 01:10:00,000
Speaker 3: find some.

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01:10:00,040 --> 01:10:01,240
Speaker 2: You've got to change something.

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01:10:01,760 --> 01:10:04,800
Speaker 3: I go, what, oh, that's interesting, what's that about? You know?

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01:10:06,080 --> 01:10:09,040
Speaker 2: I don't know, but we we appreciate it. I mean

1359
01:10:09,120 --> 01:10:12,000
Speaker 2: of course we love this situation. We love it for

1360
01:10:12,000 --> 01:10:13,719
Speaker 2: the nine year old, We love it for Matt and Matt.

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01:10:13,720 --> 01:10:16,519
Speaker 2: I think maybe one of these Mats becomes a mart

1362
01:10:16,800 --> 01:10:20,320
Speaker 2: or A he gets into his Poka dex and changes

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01:10:20,360 --> 01:10:20,720
Speaker 2: his name.

1364
01:10:21,240 --> 01:10:25,320
Speaker 3: There you go, but he has to do it himself. Oh,

1365
01:10:25,360 --> 01:10:27,160
Speaker 3: wouldn't it be great if you, like, you know, married

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01:10:27,160 --> 01:10:29,080
Speaker 3: someone and then they ask you, do you want to

1367
01:10:29,200 --> 01:10:30,960
Speaker 3: change its name? Do you want to give it a nickname?

1368
01:10:32,760 --> 01:10:33,840
Speaker 3: I would love that.

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01:10:34,520 --> 01:10:37,240
Speaker 2: To fall in love with somebody, be with them for years,

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01:10:37,280 --> 01:10:40,519
Speaker 2: and then for them to ask you to change your name. Yeah,

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01:10:40,560 --> 01:10:43,160
Speaker 2: you just and then and then they do it. And

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01:10:43,200 --> 01:10:47,880
Speaker 2: then the ultimate sign of love, the truest sacrifice, you

1373
01:10:47,960 --> 01:10:53,160
Speaker 2: give up your identity, identity. If you love somebody enough,

1374
01:10:53,160 --> 01:10:56,920
Speaker 2: you would do that. Absolutely. Bo When I'm so thrilled

1375
01:10:56,960 --> 01:10:59,360
Speaker 2: about this powder, I'm going to take a bath within

1376
01:10:59,400 --> 01:11:02,639
Speaker 2: the next it's probably been three weeks since my last bath.

1377
01:11:03,040 --> 01:11:04,599
Speaker 2: Within the next two weeks, two weeks.

1378
01:11:04,640 --> 01:11:05,839
Speaker 3: There you go. Perfect.

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01:11:05,880 --> 01:11:08,840
Speaker 2: I've had such a wonderful time with you, so have I.

1380
01:11:08,840 --> 01:11:13,000
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01:11:13,000 --> 01:11:15,439
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1382
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Speaker 1: When you're a guess to my home, you gotta come

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