1 00:00:02,440 --> 00:00:09,160 Speaker 1: ISAs are Nola, and welcome to the Philly Show. Buddy, 2 00:00:09,280 --> 00:00:13,080 Speaker 1: Rubin tomorrow, Junior, Jim Salisbury, Todd so lucky, I'm in clearwater. 3 00:00:13,200 --> 00:00:15,200 Speaker 1: Jim and Ruben are back in Philly. How you guys 4 00:00:15,320 --> 00:00:20,320 Speaker 1: doing very well, very well? Well, there's lots of talk 5 00:00:20,360 --> 00:00:22,799 Speaker 1: about Phillies. Let's start with this though, guys. Let's just 6 00:00:22,920 --> 00:00:25,640 Speaker 1: jump right into it. Bryce Harper got hit by a 7 00:00:25,720 --> 00:00:30,520 Speaker 1: pitch Wednesday in Dunedin. Got hit on the right triceps. 8 00:00:30,520 --> 00:00:33,800 Speaker 1: He suffered a bruise, but he is okay. He is okay. 9 00:00:33,880 --> 00:00:36,520 Speaker 1: He was on the half field earlier this morning doing 10 00:00:36,560 --> 00:00:38,839 Speaker 1: a lot of work at first base. We kind of 11 00:00:38,880 --> 00:00:42,640 Speaker 1: chatted him with him real briefly, and he says, I'm good. 12 00:00:43,159 --> 00:00:46,160 Speaker 1: He's gonna play on Friday against the Red Sox against 13 00:00:46,240 --> 00:00:52,160 Speaker 1: Garrett Crochet scare. Rob Thompson talked about it. He says, 14 00:00:52,200 --> 00:00:55,120 Speaker 1: I hold my breath every moment of every game spring 15 00:00:55,160 --> 00:00:57,160 Speaker 1: training game, especially the first few ones when you have 16 00:00:57,200 --> 00:00:59,880 Speaker 1: a lot of guys kind of shuffling through. Ruben, imagine 17 00:01:00,080 --> 00:01:02,280 Speaker 1: you kind of hinted at that earlier this week, right 18 00:01:03,000 --> 00:01:06,440 Speaker 1: as you were panicing. You know, they're kind of holding 19 00:01:06,440 --> 00:01:07,160 Speaker 1: your breath a lot. 20 00:01:07,440 --> 00:01:10,840 Speaker 2: Always holding your breath when the games start and you 21 00:01:10,920 --> 00:01:13,360 Speaker 2: have these young pitchers who just have no idea where 22 00:01:13,400 --> 00:01:16,680 Speaker 2: they're throwing the baseball, and that is a concern, and 23 00:01:16,920 --> 00:01:19,120 Speaker 2: that's why you have the guys get in there early. 24 00:01:19,640 --> 00:01:23,240 Speaker 2: You have them hopefully when they're playing, they're playing against 25 00:01:23,560 --> 00:01:27,240 Speaker 2: a ball players, guys that are at least, you know, 26 00:01:27,400 --> 00:01:29,920 Speaker 2: buying to make the team. You don't want to see 27 00:01:29,959 --> 00:01:33,200 Speaker 2: sixty nine's and eighty eights on the backs of their jerseys. 28 00:01:33,959 --> 00:01:37,919 Speaker 2: In this case left hander who had a through eric fastball. 29 00:01:38,720 --> 00:01:41,479 Speaker 2: Throw strikes man. This is all part of the game, 30 00:01:42,200 --> 00:01:44,479 Speaker 2: and it's something that I get concerned. 31 00:01:44,080 --> 00:01:47,560 Speaker 3: About in the game in general. You got to be people, 32 00:01:47,800 --> 00:01:49,600 Speaker 3: especially if you're going to be in Big Link camp. 33 00:01:49,600 --> 00:01:51,680 Speaker 3: You got to throw the baseball over the plate. There's 34 00:01:51,720 --> 00:01:56,480 Speaker 3: nothing worse for anybody, and any time, whether it's a 35 00:01:56,520 --> 00:02:01,720 Speaker 3: GM manager, coach, hitter, player in the on defense, throw 36 00:02:01,800 --> 00:02:02,520 Speaker 3: strikes man. 37 00:02:02,840 --> 00:02:03,240 Speaker 4: I'm glad. 38 00:02:03,280 --> 00:02:06,040 Speaker 3: He's fine. He doesn't bruise and he doesn't bleed, so 39 00:02:06,120 --> 00:02:07,320 Speaker 3: he's fine. He's super many. 40 00:02:07,680 --> 00:02:11,120 Speaker 5: Well that picture that left he actually has big league time. 41 00:02:12,280 --> 00:02:14,720 Speaker 5: I was watching that inning and that was an embarrassment 42 00:02:14,720 --> 00:02:17,240 Speaker 5: for the Blue Jays. The two pitchers they couldn't throw strikes. 43 00:02:17,280 --> 00:02:21,240 Speaker 5: They were falling all over themselves. It was gross. And 44 00:02:21,320 --> 00:02:22,920 Speaker 5: you know, he almost hit him twice. He almost hit 45 00:02:22,960 --> 00:02:24,320 Speaker 5: him with the first pitch, and then you know, he 46 00:02:24,880 --> 00:02:27,880 Speaker 5: finally got him, and Harper was ticked off, but you know, 47 00:02:28,320 --> 00:02:31,800 Speaker 5: didn't really say anything, walked off the field, and like 48 00:02:31,840 --> 00:02:34,239 Speaker 5: you said, Bryce Harper is tough. He doesn't bruise. He 49 00:02:34,919 --> 00:02:38,080 Speaker 5: did one of the most remarkable things I have ever 50 00:02:38,160 --> 00:02:42,200 Speaker 5: seen in thirty plus years of covering baseball, hitting the face, 51 00:02:42,919 --> 00:02:45,400 Speaker 5: hitting the face with what ninety six ninety seven from 52 00:02:45,440 --> 00:02:50,880 Speaker 5: that Genesis Genesis Cabrera in Saint Louis that night. I 53 00:02:50,919 --> 00:02:54,000 Speaker 5: still can't believe he walked away from that. It hit 54 00:02:54,080 --> 00:02:57,519 Speaker 5: him so hard it ricocheted off his face and actually 55 00:02:57,600 --> 00:03:01,000 Speaker 5: hurt his wrist. So he's an amazing specimen, that guy. 56 00:03:01,560 --> 00:03:03,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, he's gonna play on Friday, so you know, And 57 00:03:04,520 --> 00:03:07,840 Speaker 1: to you guys's point, the one thing Bryce expressed to 58 00:03:07,919 --> 00:03:09,680 Speaker 1: us real briefly again, he was just kind of walking 59 00:03:09,720 --> 00:03:11,799 Speaker 1: off the half fields that I'm good. He's like, you know, 60 00:03:11,960 --> 00:03:14,280 Speaker 1: I'm just you know, I feel like I'm out there 61 00:03:14,320 --> 00:03:17,160 Speaker 1: all the time getting getting drilled because guys can't throw pitches. 62 00:03:17,160 --> 00:03:20,520 Speaker 1: Over the plate. So I think that's the the well, 63 00:03:20,880 --> 00:03:23,520 Speaker 1: not the no pun intended. The genesis of his frustration 64 00:03:23,720 --> 00:03:26,760 Speaker 1: is that it's it's this happens a lot to him 65 00:03:26,800 --> 00:03:29,000 Speaker 1: where he's getting drilled inside. You know, he broke the thumb, 66 00:03:29,040 --> 00:03:32,080 Speaker 1: he got to hit in the face again. Yesterday, he 67 00:03:32,160 --> 00:03:34,560 Speaker 1: survived a scare. So I wanted to get your guys 68 00:03:34,639 --> 00:03:36,520 Speaker 1: opinions on a couple of things that happened this week. 69 00:03:37,160 --> 00:03:39,600 Speaker 1: The game was not broadcast today, but Kyle Schwarber playing 70 00:03:39,680 --> 00:03:43,080 Speaker 1: first base, he didn't get any balls hit his way Zach. 71 00:03:43,920 --> 00:03:45,840 Speaker 1: Zach Wheeler said before the game, he told him, He's like, 72 00:03:46,040 --> 00:03:47,920 Speaker 1: it's all yours over there. I'm not I'm not running 73 00:03:47,920 --> 00:03:50,120 Speaker 1: over there today. Buddy, you got everything, so just be ready. 74 00:03:50,520 --> 00:03:52,400 Speaker 1: It turns out he didn't need to do anything because 75 00:03:52,680 --> 00:03:55,280 Speaker 1: Zach Wheeler was so good. But do you guys have 76 00:03:55,320 --> 00:03:58,400 Speaker 1: any thoughts on on Kyle Schwarber getting some first base 77 00:03:58,520 --> 00:04:00,920 Speaker 1: basically just trying to get some tildy maybe a couple 78 00:04:00,920 --> 00:04:04,640 Speaker 1: of points during the season he'll he'll he'll, uh, you know, 79 00:04:04,960 --> 00:04:06,440 Speaker 1: get Bryce off his feet a little bit. 80 00:04:07,800 --> 00:04:09,640 Speaker 5: I honestly don't think we're gonna see it a lot 81 00:04:09,720 --> 00:04:11,720 Speaker 5: during the season. Because I don't think he's that comfortable 82 00:04:11,800 --> 00:04:14,040 Speaker 5: over there. But this is the time of year to 83 00:04:14,120 --> 00:04:16,240 Speaker 5: experiment a little bit and see what you got for 84 00:04:16,400 --> 00:04:20,880 Speaker 5: versatility and see if he is an option to hold 85 00:04:20,880 --> 00:04:23,599 Speaker 5: down first base on the days that you you know, 86 00:04:23,720 --> 00:04:25,839 Speaker 5: give Bryce what I would call a half day off, 87 00:04:25,960 --> 00:04:28,040 Speaker 5: you know, make him the DH you get him off 88 00:04:28,080 --> 00:04:31,560 Speaker 5: the field. So I still think, you know, Sosa going 89 00:04:31,600 --> 00:04:36,640 Speaker 5: a third and Bom at first. If you need something 90 00:04:36,680 --> 00:04:39,920 Speaker 5: a little longer term would be the would be the 91 00:04:39,920 --> 00:04:43,000 Speaker 5: case there. But you know, I think short term, just 92 00:04:43,000 --> 00:04:43,800 Speaker 5: see if he can do it. 93 00:04:43,839 --> 00:04:44,080 Speaker 4: Again. 94 00:04:44,160 --> 00:04:46,800 Speaker 5: Spring training is practice. They mess around with the lineup, 95 00:04:47,160 --> 00:04:49,440 Speaker 5: they mess around a little bit of guys different spots, 96 00:04:49,760 --> 00:04:53,560 Speaker 5: see if they can possibly do it. I you know, 97 00:04:53,600 --> 00:04:54,880 Speaker 5: I just think it's kind of a little bit of 98 00:04:54,920 --> 00:04:55,600 Speaker 5: an experiment. 99 00:04:56,360 --> 00:04:58,719 Speaker 3: And not only that, but you also got guys like 100 00:04:58,920 --> 00:05:01,120 Speaker 3: at Mundo Sosa playing left field, and that's a good 101 00:05:01,120 --> 00:05:01,560 Speaker 3: thing too. 102 00:05:02,040 --> 00:05:05,640 Speaker 2: I think that's Uh, Listen, anytime you can create some versatility, 103 00:05:05,920 --> 00:05:07,040 Speaker 2: let them feel comfortable. 104 00:05:07,320 --> 00:05:11,040 Speaker 3: Let in an emergency or in a certain situation, or 105 00:05:11,120 --> 00:05:14,000 Speaker 3: maybe he you know, plays against a tough left hander 106 00:05:14,800 --> 00:05:16,440 Speaker 3: and they leave you know, the the. 107 00:05:16,400 --> 00:05:20,920 Speaker 2: Other guys in the lineup alone Listen, it's spring training. 108 00:05:21,360 --> 00:05:24,920 Speaker 3: You can try anything, you can do anything, and you 109 00:05:24,960 --> 00:05:28,280 Speaker 3: don't feel like you're putting your players in jeopardy. I 110 00:05:28,279 --> 00:05:30,920 Speaker 3: think that Rob Thompson's looking for a little bit more 111 00:05:31,040 --> 00:05:33,800 Speaker 3: versatility and possibilities, and it gives them a little bit 112 00:05:33,880 --> 00:05:37,040 Speaker 3: more more just gives them more options as moves through 113 00:05:37,080 --> 00:05:37,920 Speaker 3: the season, and. 114 00:05:38,560 --> 00:05:41,560 Speaker 5: They'd want to keep Schwarber's batt in the lineup on 115 00:05:41,640 --> 00:05:43,120 Speaker 5: it on the day they give Bryce that half a 116 00:05:43,200 --> 00:05:48,000 Speaker 5: day off, so it's just you know, optionality. My boy. 117 00:05:48,120 --> 00:05:51,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, Kyle said the same thing too. He's like, listen, 118 00:05:51,200 --> 00:05:53,200 Speaker 1: when I was in twenty twenty one of the Red Sox, 119 00:05:53,240 --> 00:05:54,800 Speaker 1: he was coming off the injury Lissy and kind of 120 00:05:54,839 --> 00:05:56,479 Speaker 1: worked them out a little bit. Next thing you know, 121 00:05:56,520 --> 00:05:58,560 Speaker 1: he's playing games. He wasn't super comfortab So they get. 122 00:05:58,560 --> 00:06:00,600 Speaker 1: The great thing about this is that you can screw 123 00:06:00,640 --> 00:06:02,200 Speaker 1: up as much as you want in spring training and 124 00:06:02,240 --> 00:06:04,039 Speaker 1: it does not matter at all. So He's like, this 125 00:06:04,200 --> 00:06:06,480 Speaker 1: is great. I can come out here, I can mess up. 126 00:06:06,520 --> 00:06:08,480 Speaker 1: I can I have Bobby Dickerson yell at me because 127 00:06:08,480 --> 00:06:10,320 Speaker 1: I'm not making doing what he wants me to do. 128 00:06:10,480 --> 00:06:12,360 Speaker 1: But it doesn't really matter as long as I'm learning, 129 00:06:12,440 --> 00:06:14,680 Speaker 1: so you know, that's something to kind of keep an 130 00:06:14,680 --> 00:06:16,279 Speaker 1: eye on this spring. He wants to get out Rob 131 00:06:16,320 --> 00:06:18,640 Speaker 1: says might get out in first base a couple more 132 00:06:18,640 --> 00:06:20,320 Speaker 1: times of spring. He wants to get him in the 133 00:06:20,360 --> 00:06:22,360 Speaker 1: left field a couple more times of spring. Effect Kyle's 134 00:06:22,400 --> 00:06:24,120 Speaker 1: next start will be in left field. 135 00:06:24,520 --> 00:06:26,919 Speaker 5: If I may does anybody can get him ready to 136 00:06:26,960 --> 00:06:27,200 Speaker 5: do it. 137 00:06:27,240 --> 00:06:30,120 Speaker 2: Bobby Dickerson could be the guy because he simplifies. 138 00:06:29,600 --> 00:06:32,479 Speaker 4: It really well. Listen, I've seen him work on that 139 00:06:32,520 --> 00:06:33,080 Speaker 4: half field. 140 00:06:33,080 --> 00:06:35,520 Speaker 3: It's one of my favorite things to watch happen. I've 141 00:06:35,520 --> 00:06:38,839 Speaker 3: talked about it on the air many times. Bobby Dickerson 142 00:06:39,040 --> 00:06:41,560 Speaker 3: is an ace when it comes to infield work, and 143 00:06:42,360 --> 00:06:45,719 Speaker 3: he gets guys excited and fun. He makes it fun 144 00:06:46,800 --> 00:06:49,960 Speaker 3: and challenges them. And I really have a lot of 145 00:06:49,960 --> 00:06:51,120 Speaker 3: respect for what Bobby does. 146 00:06:51,440 --> 00:06:53,919 Speaker 5: Yeah, love love hanging out at the half field. I 147 00:06:53,920 --> 00:06:56,960 Speaker 5: was doing it last week watching him work. Harper there, 148 00:06:57,120 --> 00:07:00,919 Speaker 5: Schwarer there, Cody Clement's there, Ary Bow is there and 149 00:07:01,000 --> 00:07:03,839 Speaker 5: they're are working these guys together. And there's a lot 150 00:07:03,880 --> 00:07:07,400 Speaker 5: of between Bobby Dickerson and Larry Bow. There's a little 151 00:07:07,440 --> 00:07:10,480 Speaker 5: bit of hiss and vinegar on that half. There's a 152 00:07:10,560 --> 00:07:11,280 Speaker 5: lot of chirping. 153 00:07:11,720 --> 00:07:13,880 Speaker 1: There's a lot of there's a lot of Kyle said 154 00:07:13,880 --> 00:07:16,080 Speaker 1: he made a mistake the first day of working out 155 00:07:16,120 --> 00:07:18,280 Speaker 1: at first base. He said the word fielding, which Bobby 156 00:07:18,280 --> 00:07:21,840 Speaker 1: Dickerson hates that word. He likes the word catching, catching, 157 00:07:22,240 --> 00:07:25,040 Speaker 1: not field. You're catching in that fielding. So he says, 158 00:07:25,200 --> 00:07:27,400 Speaker 1: I will not make that mistake again. I now try 159 00:07:27,400 --> 00:07:30,440 Speaker 1: to catch the ball, not field the ball. So there 160 00:07:30,440 --> 00:07:32,440 Speaker 1: you go a couple of things. I wanted to get 161 00:07:32,680 --> 00:07:34,880 Speaker 1: Jose Alvarado, I don't again, I don't know the game 162 00:07:34,920 --> 00:07:39,120 Speaker 1: was not on TV. Jose Alvarado today. I never want 163 00:07:39,200 --> 00:07:41,840 Speaker 1: to make too much out of one spring training performance, 164 00:07:41,920 --> 00:07:44,840 Speaker 1: especially the first one. But Jose Alvarado today hit one 165 00:07:44,880 --> 00:07:48,240 Speaker 1: hundred point seven sinker and he had one hundred point 166 00:07:48,280 --> 00:07:50,760 Speaker 1: one another time. He looked really really good. The cutter 167 00:07:50,920 --> 00:07:54,640 Speaker 1: was really good, and he said this offseason he worked 168 00:07:54,680 --> 00:07:56,400 Speaker 1: on his diet, he lost some weight, he got in 169 00:07:56,440 --> 00:07:58,640 Speaker 1: better shape. He says he's been working really, really hard. 170 00:07:59,080 --> 00:08:01,080 Speaker 1: He says he wasn't from austrated with the last season, 171 00:08:01,080 --> 00:08:03,880 Speaker 1: but based off what he did this offseason, it seems 172 00:08:03,880 --> 00:08:06,440 Speaker 1: like he was disappointed with how he pitched and man 173 00:08:06,520 --> 00:08:08,000 Speaker 1: if he can get back to what he was a 174 00:08:08,040 --> 00:08:11,120 Speaker 1: couple of years ago. That would be huge, huge for 175 00:08:11,160 --> 00:08:11,680 Speaker 1: this bullpen. 176 00:08:12,040 --> 00:08:15,520 Speaker 5: Yeah, triple digits man, that is uh. That's the reason 177 00:08:15,560 --> 00:08:17,280 Speaker 5: I call him Keeso Grumne. 178 00:08:18,960 --> 00:08:21,480 Speaker 1: He is the big cheese. Jordan Romano also made his 179 00:08:21,560 --> 00:08:24,800 Speaker 1: day pitch today, his debut. He was ninety six, you know, 180 00:08:24,880 --> 00:08:27,200 Speaker 1: at ninety seven ninety eight, and he when he came 181 00:08:27,240 --> 00:08:29,520 Speaker 1: off the mound into the clubhouse, he was like, he 182 00:08:29,560 --> 00:08:32,720 Speaker 1: looked at al Rassid. Dude, that was insane. That was ridiculous. 183 00:08:32,720 --> 00:08:34,559 Speaker 1: So they seem to be really excited with the way 184 00:08:34,600 --> 00:08:37,520 Speaker 1: Alvarado was throwing. But yeah, that would be that would 185 00:08:37,520 --> 00:08:38,040 Speaker 1: be tremendous. 186 00:08:38,040 --> 00:08:41,959 Speaker 3: Speaking well, Alvarado's a confidence guy, Todd and Jim. If 187 00:08:42,000 --> 00:08:45,000 Speaker 3: he has the confidence on that mound to be able 188 00:08:45,040 --> 00:08:48,080 Speaker 3: to throw his pitches where he wants to consistently, he 189 00:08:48,120 --> 00:08:50,520 Speaker 3: can be one of the nastiest left handers in all 190 00:08:50,640 --> 00:08:51,360 Speaker 3: of baseball. 191 00:08:51,480 --> 00:08:53,520 Speaker 4: And it creates a whole ton of depth. 192 00:08:53,559 --> 00:08:58,040 Speaker 3: You start talking about strom Alvarado, you got banks back there. 193 00:08:58,080 --> 00:08:59,520 Speaker 4: People don't talk about him a whole lot. 194 00:08:59,520 --> 00:09:01,800 Speaker 3: He's got a darn good arm and and he can 195 00:09:01,880 --> 00:09:03,640 Speaker 3: be a good situational type of a guy. 196 00:09:03,679 --> 00:09:04,440 Speaker 4: Those are the three. 197 00:09:04,400 --> 00:09:07,280 Speaker 3: Lefties, and then you have Kirkerat and Romano. I mean 198 00:09:07,320 --> 00:09:10,720 Speaker 3: you got guys who can who can you know, got 199 00:09:10,880 --> 00:09:13,520 Speaker 3: good enough stuff to pitch deep in the games. And 200 00:09:13,559 --> 00:09:16,800 Speaker 3: it's it's about options again. You talked about it, Jim. 201 00:09:17,000 --> 00:09:21,120 Speaker 3: If Rob Thompson has options in the seventh, eighth, and ninth, 202 00:09:21,760 --> 00:09:24,800 Speaker 3: that's that's big for him. He's not gonna go necessarily 203 00:09:24,800 --> 00:09:28,160 Speaker 3: with one closer. I don't think I would think that 204 00:09:28,280 --> 00:09:29,280 Speaker 3: Romanod's gonna. 205 00:09:29,040 --> 00:09:30,760 Speaker 4: Get the first shot at it. 206 00:09:31,320 --> 00:09:33,640 Speaker 3: But that said, I mean he's gonna mix a match 207 00:09:33,720 --> 00:09:35,720 Speaker 3: like he has in the pass until somebody emerges. 208 00:09:36,040 --> 00:09:40,160 Speaker 5: Hey, Ruben, do you with in the case of case 209 00:09:40,160 --> 00:09:44,720 Speaker 5: of Grande do you worry about too hard too early? Uh? 210 00:09:44,760 --> 00:09:45,199 Speaker 5: You know what? 211 00:09:45,679 --> 00:09:46,160 Speaker 4: I think? 212 00:09:46,720 --> 00:09:49,520 Speaker 3: Not for him, and I'll tell you why. I think 213 00:09:49,720 --> 00:09:52,960 Speaker 3: he really needs to be confident work going into the season. 214 00:09:53,559 --> 00:09:55,520 Speaker 3: Like I said, I think he's a confidence pitcher. I 215 00:09:55,559 --> 00:09:58,719 Speaker 3: think when he's feeling comfortable and good about himself, he's 216 00:09:58,800 --> 00:10:00,480 Speaker 3: gonna pitch better and better and better. 217 00:10:00,720 --> 00:10:03,240 Speaker 4: When he starts doubting himself and doubting. 218 00:10:02,960 --> 00:10:05,640 Speaker 3: His ability to throw strikes and backs off, start to 219 00:10:05,679 --> 00:10:08,640 Speaker 3: try to backs off, doesn't feel comfortable. You see him, 220 00:10:08,920 --> 00:10:10,600 Speaker 3: You see it on the mound. You can see his 221 00:10:10,640 --> 00:10:13,240 Speaker 3: demeanor when he gets on the mounting fires. You can 222 00:10:13,280 --> 00:10:16,760 Speaker 3: see how confident he is. When he starts thinking about things, 223 00:10:18,320 --> 00:10:20,360 Speaker 3: the wheels start to turn on him. I think it's 224 00:10:20,640 --> 00:10:22,959 Speaker 3: I think he needs as much confidence as possible going 225 00:10:23,000 --> 00:10:25,000 Speaker 3: into the season so he can start feeling good about 226 00:10:25,080 --> 00:10:27,960 Speaker 3: himself again because he can be dominant when he's good. 227 00:10:28,520 --> 00:10:30,880 Speaker 1: Sure, and guys, we had Zach Wheeler on the show. 228 00:10:31,080 --> 00:10:33,000 Speaker 1: I guess it was two weeks ago, and he was tremendous. 229 00:10:33,040 --> 00:10:35,199 Speaker 1: If you haven't checked out that episode, good check it out. 230 00:10:35,200 --> 00:10:37,600 Speaker 1: But Zach today as well, was throwing the ball hard. 231 00:10:37,640 --> 00:10:40,320 Speaker 1: His fastball was like ninety five nine. I went back 232 00:10:40,360 --> 00:10:42,440 Speaker 1: and he said, last spring, I think my first outing 233 00:10:42,520 --> 00:10:44,520 Speaker 1: was around ninety one was it was ninety three to nine. 234 00:10:44,559 --> 00:10:46,439 Speaker 1: So he's throwing the ball better. But I think you 235 00:10:46,480 --> 00:10:48,679 Speaker 1: guys can appreciate this because I know you guys love 236 00:10:48,760 --> 00:10:51,120 Speaker 1: the inside part of the game. So he threw his 237 00:10:51,320 --> 00:10:54,040 Speaker 1: I think he was facing this Ben Rice or the Yankees. 238 00:10:54,280 --> 00:10:56,920 Speaker 1: He threw a really great splitter right and it was 239 00:10:57,160 --> 00:11:00,480 Speaker 1: it was so good. The batter had his head and 240 00:11:00,520 --> 00:11:03,480 Speaker 1: he just he just mouthed the words to Garrett sebs. 241 00:11:03,559 --> 00:11:06,839 Speaker 1: He said same. He just mouthed the word same, and 242 00:11:06,880 --> 00:11:10,360 Speaker 1: then through the next change up struck him out eating over. 243 00:11:10,440 --> 00:11:12,240 Speaker 1: You know, so that was kind of a cool moment 244 00:11:12,240 --> 00:11:14,000 Speaker 1: of today' Zach kind of talking about that, you know, 245 00:11:14,040 --> 00:11:16,880 Speaker 1: how nonchalant and like care free is. He's like, yeah, 246 00:11:16,920 --> 00:11:18,800 Speaker 1: I just noticed he wasn't looking at a little cat 247 00:11:18,800 --> 00:11:20,880 Speaker 1: and mouse game, so I just said, I just basically 248 00:11:20,880 --> 00:11:23,480 Speaker 1: told Garrett, same pitch. Don't even put any fingers down, 249 00:11:23,520 --> 00:11:26,080 Speaker 1: I'm throwing it again. He did, but he looked really 250 00:11:26,080 --> 00:11:28,960 Speaker 1: good today as well, So that was kind of a 251 00:11:28,960 --> 00:11:29,560 Speaker 1: fun moment. 252 00:11:29,960 --> 00:11:32,040 Speaker 5: If you want to see the grip for that that 253 00:11:32,280 --> 00:11:36,240 Speaker 5: splitty check out that uh that's right, that episode he 254 00:11:36,280 --> 00:11:39,200 Speaker 5: show he actually showed us the grip reven Yeah, no, 255 00:11:39,280 --> 00:11:39,560 Speaker 5: he was. 256 00:11:39,760 --> 00:11:42,679 Speaker 4: He was great, really insightful, good stuff. 257 00:11:42,880 --> 00:11:45,880 Speaker 3: Everybody has different, you know, size hands, everybody's got a 258 00:11:45,880 --> 00:11:48,360 Speaker 3: different feel for how they hold certain pitches. 259 00:11:48,440 --> 00:11:50,400 Speaker 4: He gave us a great lesson in it, and hey, 260 00:11:50,400 --> 00:11:52,320 Speaker 4: it's great that that's a huge pitch. 261 00:11:52,360 --> 00:11:55,160 Speaker 3: I mean, if he can master start mastering that pitch 262 00:11:55,240 --> 00:11:59,920 Speaker 3: more consistently, oh my goodness, forget about it, Die and Ellie, 263 00:12:00,320 --> 00:12:03,480 Speaker 3: because the guys, the guy will be even more nasty. 264 00:12:04,360 --> 00:12:07,560 Speaker 3: I love the way most of the starting pitchers, the 265 00:12:07,600 --> 00:12:09,800 Speaker 3: guys if you think you're good that we believe there'd 266 00:12:09,840 --> 00:12:11,280 Speaker 3: be our number. 267 00:12:11,000 --> 00:12:12,720 Speaker 4: Five are five starters. 268 00:12:12,760 --> 00:12:16,360 Speaker 3: They've been throwing the ball really well, but really impressed 269 00:12:16,360 --> 00:12:19,160 Speaker 3: by the way the ball's coming out. Christopher Sanchez was 270 00:12:19,200 --> 00:12:22,760 Speaker 3: throwing ninety six to ninety eight, and he's always been 271 00:12:22,800 --> 00:12:24,560 Speaker 3: able to do that, but he had a sort of 272 00:12:24,640 --> 00:12:26,680 Speaker 3: dial it back over the last couple of years to 273 00:12:26,720 --> 00:12:29,120 Speaker 3: be able to command the ball better, which he's done. 274 00:12:29,160 --> 00:12:32,200 Speaker 3: To his credit, he's made himself a really much much 275 00:12:32,200 --> 00:12:35,600 Speaker 3: more complete pitcher. Great turnaround. I mean, he's a great story, 276 00:12:36,000 --> 00:12:39,040 Speaker 3: but he's starting to gain the confidence that's necessary for 277 00:12:39,160 --> 00:12:40,599 Speaker 3: him to cut it loose and to be able to 278 00:12:40,640 --> 00:12:42,920 Speaker 3: feel good about where he's throwing his ninety six or 279 00:12:43,000 --> 00:12:43,559 Speaker 3: ninety seven. 280 00:12:43,880 --> 00:12:46,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, he threw two innings on Tuesday in Port Charlotte 281 00:12:46,640 --> 00:12:48,800 Speaker 1: against the Rays is two scoreless. Like you said, Rubin, 282 00:12:49,320 --> 00:12:51,600 Speaker 1: his vlo is up there and he was really you know, 283 00:12:51,600 --> 00:12:53,680 Speaker 1: he worked hard in the offseason that kind of build 284 00:12:53,679 --> 00:12:56,280 Speaker 1: some strength and this is important. Somebody said, do you 285 00:12:56,280 --> 00:12:58,480 Speaker 1: think he said, I think I can live this season 286 00:12:58,480 --> 00:13:00,839 Speaker 1: in ninety five ninety six with sinker, which would be 287 00:13:00,920 --> 00:13:04,040 Speaker 1: up a ticker two from last year. And of course 288 00:13:04,040 --> 00:13:06,640 Speaker 1: the next question is can you throw strikes with that? 289 00:13:06,960 --> 00:13:09,640 Speaker 1: You're not going to start bring the ball around around 290 00:13:09,640 --> 00:13:12,280 Speaker 1: the strike zone. He says, no, no, no, I'm mature enough 291 00:13:12,320 --> 00:13:14,240 Speaker 1: now and I'm strong enough now where I think I 292 00:13:14,240 --> 00:13:18,400 Speaker 1: can add that vello and throw strikes. So that's something 293 00:13:18,400 --> 00:13:20,440 Speaker 1: I think is important to mention as well. You know, 294 00:13:20,520 --> 00:13:22,640 Speaker 1: he was but he was really excited. Garrett Stubbs was 295 00:13:22,720 --> 00:13:26,000 Speaker 1: like in love with how he threw. We talked about 296 00:13:26,000 --> 00:13:29,080 Speaker 1: his mystery pitched Jim the other day, Christopher Sanchez. He's 297 00:13:29,080 --> 00:13:33,319 Speaker 1: it's basically just an improved sliders and a more consistent slider 298 00:13:33,559 --> 00:13:37,160 Speaker 1: with more horizontal break. Garrett Stubbs said, last season would 299 00:13:37,200 --> 00:13:38,600 Speaker 1: kind of back up a lot. It would be real 300 00:13:38,679 --> 00:13:41,280 Speaker 1: tight sometimes, it would be kind of bigger sometimes, and 301 00:13:41,320 --> 00:13:43,400 Speaker 1: now it's a lot more consistent. So he's like, and 302 00:13:43,440 --> 00:13:46,439 Speaker 1: Garrett Stubbs said this, he said, man, if he can 303 00:13:46,480 --> 00:13:48,719 Speaker 1: do that with the added velo, with the one of 304 00:13:48,760 --> 00:13:50,520 Speaker 1: the best change ups, if not the best change up 305 00:13:50,559 --> 00:13:52,440 Speaker 1: in baseball, He's like, this guy could win a syg Young, 306 00:13:52,480 --> 00:13:55,920 Speaker 1: which is I don't think it's super crazy to think 307 00:13:55,920 --> 00:13:59,679 Speaker 1: about as well, as hell as well as he can pitch. 308 00:14:00,040 --> 00:14:01,680 Speaker 4: Spill on some good games. 309 00:14:02,200 --> 00:14:04,280 Speaker 5: Guy's got a ton of talent. Where do you see 310 00:14:04,320 --> 00:14:07,520 Speaker 5: him slotting in? You see him two or do you 311 00:14:07,559 --> 00:14:08,800 Speaker 5: see him like four or five? 312 00:14:10,440 --> 00:14:13,079 Speaker 1: Well, Rob Rob has said he wants to split up 313 00:14:13,240 --> 00:14:17,160 Speaker 1: Sanchez in Lozardo right, because they're similar high velo guys. 314 00:14:17,160 --> 00:14:20,120 Speaker 5: So I guess yeah, split. 315 00:14:19,960 --> 00:14:21,680 Speaker 1: Up the writers as well. So I guess Ranger then 316 00:14:21,720 --> 00:14:25,680 Speaker 1: would like slide next to either Lozardo or Sanchez. But uh, 317 00:14:26,240 --> 00:14:30,800 Speaker 1: with lazarda going tomorrow, NOLA going Saturday against the Tigers 318 00:14:30,800 --> 00:14:33,200 Speaker 1: in Lakeland, it seemed to be cunning. Seems to be 319 00:14:33,280 --> 00:14:37,360 Speaker 1: lining up with Lazardo maybe pitching game two, NOLA game three. 320 00:14:37,480 --> 00:14:39,960 Speaker 1: I mean lat can change of course in the in 321 00:14:40,000 --> 00:14:42,120 Speaker 1: the coming you know, coming weeks. They can obviously move 322 00:14:42,160 --> 00:14:44,480 Speaker 1: that around, I suppose, But that's maybe how it looks 323 00:14:44,480 --> 00:14:45,520 Speaker 1: like it's lining up early. 324 00:14:46,600 --> 00:14:50,960 Speaker 3: We had all surprised if if Christopher Sanchez, because of 325 00:14:51,000 --> 00:14:54,440 Speaker 3: the way Rob Thompson that's confidence in him now compared 326 00:14:54,440 --> 00:14:57,640 Speaker 3: to where he was before and how how far he's come, 327 00:14:58,160 --> 00:15:00,480 Speaker 3: I wouldn't be surprised if he becomes the number two. 328 00:15:01,120 --> 00:15:05,600 Speaker 5: That's kind of way I would see it. I would Wheeler, Sanchez, 329 00:15:05,720 --> 00:15:11,880 Speaker 5: Nola and then the reader for Lozardo. 330 00:15:12,000 --> 00:15:14,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm right with you. Yeah. 331 00:15:14,120 --> 00:15:15,880 Speaker 1: I mean the only reason I said is because Lozardo 332 00:15:15,920 --> 00:15:19,880 Speaker 1: pitched Tuesday, Wheeler today, Lizard or mar Nola Nola Saturday. 333 00:15:19,960 --> 00:15:22,840 Speaker 1: So but yeah, you Sanchez would be great. It'd be 334 00:15:22,840 --> 00:15:25,000 Speaker 1: a great confidence boost for him. So let's close on 335 00:15:25,040 --> 00:15:26,880 Speaker 1: a couple of things. Guys, a lot of lineup. You know, 336 00:15:27,080 --> 00:15:29,200 Speaker 1: people love talking about the lineup. There's a lineup on 337 00:15:29,280 --> 00:15:34,480 Speaker 1: Monday it was Turner, Schwarber, Harper, and everybody was wondering, 338 00:15:34,560 --> 00:15:36,400 Speaker 1: is this the lineup? Well, I can tell you. Rob 339 00:15:36,440 --> 00:15:39,000 Speaker 1: Thompson said, after when that game got rained out, We're like, 340 00:15:39,480 --> 00:15:40,720 Speaker 1: what's what this lineup? Prop is? 341 00:15:40,720 --> 00:15:40,800 Speaker 2: This? 342 00:15:41,240 --> 00:15:43,640 Speaker 1: Is this something you could do? He goes, no, this 343 00:15:43,840 --> 00:15:46,520 Speaker 1: is uh. I want. I wanted to make sure those 344 00:15:46,560 --> 00:15:49,440 Speaker 1: three guys would guaranteed face Paul Skins in the first inning. 345 00:15:49,760 --> 00:15:52,480 Speaker 1: So he's like, that's not necessarily going to be my 346 00:15:52,480 --> 00:15:54,640 Speaker 1: my opening day lineup. But would you would you guys, 347 00:15:54,640 --> 00:15:56,280 Speaker 1: what would you guys think about that lineup? 348 00:15:57,640 --> 00:16:00,320 Speaker 5: I would think so he had the two left back 349 00:16:00,360 --> 00:16:00,640 Speaker 5: to back. 350 00:16:00,680 --> 00:16:02,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, I hit the t bat lefties back to back. 351 00:16:03,760 --> 00:16:06,080 Speaker 5: I would only do that if the opposition had no 352 00:16:06,200 --> 00:16:10,280 Speaker 5: lefties in the bullpen. But you know, I I I 353 00:16:10,280 --> 00:16:14,120 Speaker 5: I kind of like Harper two. I mean, if it's 354 00:16:14,120 --> 00:16:16,400 Speaker 5: gonna go trade turn the lead off, leading off, and 355 00:16:16,520 --> 00:16:18,720 Speaker 5: a lot of signs point that way, like Harper two, 356 00:16:20,040 --> 00:16:25,240 Speaker 5: U Boom three and shore or four. But who knows. 357 00:16:25,360 --> 00:16:26,840 Speaker 5: I mean, there's a lot of different ways. I guess 358 00:16:26,880 --> 00:16:27,400 Speaker 5: you can go. 359 00:16:30,280 --> 00:16:30,600 Speaker 4: Listen. 360 00:16:30,640 --> 00:16:32,960 Speaker 2: I he's gonna experiment as much. 361 00:16:32,880 --> 00:16:35,840 Speaker 4: As he can. And I don't mind that lineup. 362 00:16:35,840 --> 00:16:37,960 Speaker 3: I'm okay, especially if they're you don't have guys who 363 00:16:37,960 --> 00:16:40,640 Speaker 3: are as you said, Jim, if there's guys that are 364 00:16:40,720 --> 00:16:44,320 Speaker 3: not dominators in the pen from the left side against 365 00:16:44,320 --> 00:16:47,600 Speaker 3: that particular team, and and the you know, opposing picture 366 00:16:47,640 --> 00:16:50,320 Speaker 3: is a right hander, I wouldn't have a problem with it. 367 00:16:50,360 --> 00:16:52,360 Speaker 4: Those guys can handle left handers. I got no issue 368 00:16:52,360 --> 00:16:52,560 Speaker 4: with it. 369 00:16:53,200 --> 00:16:56,520 Speaker 3: They're eight and they're their best hitters. Put them all 370 00:16:56,560 --> 00:16:58,240 Speaker 3: the best hitters in the top of the lineup, man and. 371 00:16:58,240 --> 00:17:00,840 Speaker 1: Let him roll, baby, Yeah, get get him up there 372 00:17:00,880 --> 00:17:02,200 Speaker 1: as much as human as possible. 373 00:17:02,560 --> 00:17:05,080 Speaker 5: These spring training lineups are a lot of times dictated 374 00:17:05,119 --> 00:17:08,840 Speaker 5: by the opposing pitcher. The manager wants to, you know, 375 00:17:08,960 --> 00:17:13,800 Speaker 5: see his best hitters. Face. You know, a guy who's 376 00:17:13,800 --> 00:17:16,879 Speaker 5: in the starting rotation of the opposing team. He you know, 377 00:17:17,000 --> 00:17:21,439 Speaker 5: Rob mentioned you might see marsh and Kepler hit up 378 00:17:21,520 --> 00:17:24,879 Speaker 5: high in a maybe in a game against the lefty, 379 00:17:25,000 --> 00:17:27,040 Speaker 5: just to see how many at bats they could get 380 00:17:27,359 --> 00:17:30,679 Speaker 5: against that lefty starter, but before he's removed from the game. So, 381 00:17:31,000 --> 00:17:34,600 Speaker 5: and speaking of lefty starters, Uh, you got one coming 382 00:17:34,680 --> 00:17:35,840 Speaker 5: up Friday. 383 00:17:36,480 --> 00:17:40,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, you're talking about Lizardo versus Garrett Crochet. Yeah, a 384 00:17:40,080 --> 00:17:42,719 Speaker 1: couple of them, right, Yeah, Yeah, that's good. That's the Friday, 385 00:17:42,760 --> 00:17:45,040 Speaker 1: that's the Friday Great League matchup. And again, you know 386 00:17:45,119 --> 00:17:47,600 Speaker 1: that's if you're gonna get excited about something spring training, 387 00:17:47,600 --> 00:17:49,760 Speaker 1: you might as well get excited about a good pitching matchup. 388 00:17:49,800 --> 00:17:53,320 Speaker 1: And so, yeah, Jesus Lozardo makes his Phillies spring training 389 00:17:53,359 --> 00:17:56,320 Speaker 1: debut against Garrett Crochet. And here's what's interesting in that. 390 00:17:56,400 --> 00:17:59,440 Speaker 1: Of course, you guys know this. The Philly has tried 391 00:18:00,400 --> 00:18:02,960 Speaker 1: as heck to get Garrick Croche at the trade deadline, 392 00:18:02,960 --> 00:18:04,399 Speaker 1: and I think they tried to get him even in 393 00:18:04,440 --> 00:18:07,080 Speaker 1: the off season, could not come up with the package, 394 00:18:07,119 --> 00:18:08,879 Speaker 1: or they thought they could came up with the package, 395 00:18:08,880 --> 00:18:11,760 Speaker 1: but the White Sox wanted more and so they pivoted 396 00:18:12,200 --> 00:18:14,119 Speaker 1: and they got Hazel's Tzarto. So it's kind of like 397 00:18:14,160 --> 00:18:16,640 Speaker 1: what might have been with what you have now. And 398 00:18:16,880 --> 00:18:19,679 Speaker 1: Phillies are excited at the Lozardo though, and he. 399 00:18:19,680 --> 00:18:21,879 Speaker 5: Would not be here if they could have consummated the 400 00:18:22,920 --> 00:18:26,959 Speaker 5: Crochet deal. But I was impressed with just watching Wizardo's bullpens. 401 00:18:27,760 --> 00:18:31,560 Speaker 5: Good body, really athletic looking guy, looks like you can 402 00:18:31,600 --> 00:18:34,400 Speaker 5: get after it. A little bit smart, interesting guy. 403 00:18:35,320 --> 00:18:37,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, a lot of things to like about him. 404 00:18:37,000 --> 00:18:41,040 Speaker 3: He's confident, he goes after hitters, he loves the spotlight man, 405 00:18:41,119 --> 00:18:44,360 Speaker 3: he doesn't back down. All those things that you love 406 00:18:44,440 --> 00:18:47,040 Speaker 3: about a player. He's got it. Got to keep him 407 00:18:47,040 --> 00:18:49,400 Speaker 3: on the field. If he can, he's gonna be good. 408 00:18:49,560 --> 00:18:50,639 Speaker 3: He's gonna be a good one. 409 00:18:51,720 --> 00:18:55,400 Speaker 1: Well, guys, thanks for hopping on. Can you guys hear 410 00:18:55,440 --> 00:18:56,880 Speaker 1: the music going at the tiki bar? 411 00:18:57,240 --> 00:18:59,119 Speaker 4: No, but to. 412 00:18:59,119 --> 00:19:03,600 Speaker 5: Get back to it, Tod, where are you dining tonight? Todd? 413 00:19:03,840 --> 00:19:06,000 Speaker 1: I might be going to the ho new and beautiful 414 00:19:06,040 --> 00:19:07,439 Speaker 1: Daned is my favorite spot. 415 00:19:08,600 --> 00:19:11,159 Speaker 5: That's a new place for you. 416 00:19:10,480 --> 00:19:13,280 Speaker 1: Nice little Hawaiian food. We'll tell you what. I went 417 00:19:13,320 --> 00:19:16,159 Speaker 1: to the Dunedin Smokehouse last night. I gorged myself to 418 00:19:16,200 --> 00:19:18,680 Speaker 1: death on on red Meats, and I had the meat 419 00:19:18,720 --> 00:19:21,600 Speaker 1: sweats last night in bed, So I gotta I gotta cleanse, 420 00:19:21,720 --> 00:19:24,480 Speaker 1: cleanse the uh cleanse my soul and my and my 421 00:19:24,560 --> 00:19:27,680 Speaker 1: body with some fresh fish tonight. I think that's gonna 422 00:19:27,680 --> 00:19:29,639 Speaker 1: be the I gotta do it. I gotta do it. 423 00:19:29,720 --> 00:19:32,479 Speaker 1: So yeah, But anyway, where are you dining. 424 00:19:33,440 --> 00:19:37,160 Speaker 3: I'm going to uh dear Daphne, and I'm going right now. 425 00:19:37,200 --> 00:19:38,680 Speaker 4: So let's roll, let's go. 426 00:19:39,280 --> 00:19:41,480 Speaker 1: We'll be back next week. 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