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Speaker 1: Welcome to NFL Daily, where we are officially reporting for

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Speaker 1: training camp.

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Speaker 2: Yes, I am back state side.

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Speaker 1: In my garage four now and training camp is beginning

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Speaker 1: this week. I am joined today by my friend Nick Shook,

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Speaker 1: and we are going to fire through a lot, a

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Speaker 1: lot of news over the weekend as some teams are reporting,

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Speaker 1: some players are signing. We are going to go through

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Speaker 1: the best position battles of the twenty twenty five training camp.

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Speaker 1: I have fifty nine written down. We will see if

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Speaker 1: we can get to all fifty nine in this show.

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Speaker 1: But I thought that we have to start this show.

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Speaker 1: The first word for training camp should go to the

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Speaker 1: man who is coaching the team who started training camp,

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Speaker 1: the Santa Clausa Football Jim Harbaugh.

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Speaker 3: How you feeling oh so excited?

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Speaker 4: It's a homecoming. You know, I mean all the best

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Speaker 4: words in the English language. I mean, I associate to

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Speaker 4: the first day of football. You know, it's being reborn

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Speaker 4: in football, It's the start of the year. It's the

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Speaker 4: someone think it's January first, you know, those are espoused

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Speaker 4: to Catholicism Christianity would think it's the birth of christ Us.

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Speaker 4: In football, it's the first day of training camp. Homecoming.

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Speaker 1: So I love Jim Harbaugh like no one else is saying.

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Speaker 1: If you espouse to Christianity, it is like the birth

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Speaker 1: of Jesus Christ.

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Speaker 2: But that's what I'm feeling, SHOOKI. We finally have some

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Speaker 2: football to talk about. Looking forward to doing it with you.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, birth of football.

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Speaker 5: I just think about the Wilson Football Factory and all

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Speaker 5: the footballs that they produced every year, you know, the

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Speaker 5: birth of the Duke. It's a new era upon us.

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Speaker 5: Another season is here.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and we will be hitting your feed every Sunday

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Speaker 1: evening actually during training camp, me and Shook recapping all

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Speaker 1: the news from around the league that's happened over the weekend,

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Speaker 1: get you caught up, and then once the preseason starts,

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Speaker 1: it's all those takeaways on the preseason game. So that's

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Speaker 1: part of our schedule moving forward. But now NFL Daily

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Speaker 1: is back to being daily. We'll have a show for

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Speaker 1: you every day this week. Looking forward to it. Let's

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Speaker 1: get to the news. I could start in a million

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Speaker 1: places here, but just kind of playing catchup, Shook. I

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Speaker 1: thought it was interesting that von Miller is back in

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Speaker 1: the NFL. He got a six point one million dollar

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Speaker 1: base to sign with the Washington Commanders, and it makes

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Speaker 1: me kind of wonder, like, what are these Washington Commanders,

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Speaker 1: Because one hand, they have Jayden Daniels. On the other hand,

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Speaker 1: they were one of the oldest teams in the league

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Speaker 1: and they needed help at the edge rush position.

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Speaker 2: You think von Miller can help him out.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, they lost Dante Faller in free agency,

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Speaker 5: give von Miller an affordable deal. He's back in the NFL.

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Speaker 5: But you're right, I think about Bobby Wagner being back there.

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Speaker 5: I think about the trader Marshawn Latimore. Like, they have

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Speaker 5: But it is an interesting dichotomy of this relatively young

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Speaker 2: And von Miller. Last year he was a situational pass

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Speaker 1: They cut him. The PFF numbers said he got a

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Speaker 1: So I'd be very interested to see that. It's my

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Speaker 1: since we last taped the show, I was in Tokyo.

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Speaker 1: a truck this morning, Shook. It's two in the morning

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Speaker 2: TJ.

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Speaker 1: Watt signed a contract that was fascinating to me. He

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Speaker 2: What were your thoughts on that.

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Speaker 5: I mean, this was the contract that I thought, Look,

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Speaker 3: And yet with the age.

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Speaker 5: And the market exploding this offseason, there were some barriers

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Speaker 3: Not at all surprised that it's one million more per.

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Speaker 5: Year than what Miles Garrett got, because that's how the

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Speaker 3: That makes all the sense in the world.

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Speaker 5: It also makes all the sense in the world for

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Speaker 5: him to stay with the Steelers, as you know, one

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Speaker 5: of many eras. But yet and the three years points

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Speaker 5: he's not exactly a spring chicken anymore. And it also

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Speaker 5: points to the fact that they are still all in

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they are spending money. The three years actually was

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Speaker 1: a lot. It was a better deal than Garrett's ultimately

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Speaker 1: Watt will make one hundred and eight million dollars. That's

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Speaker 1: the most ever for a non quarterback. It's actually in

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Speaker 1: terms of fully guaranteed money. It shook more than Brock

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Speaker 1: Watt had his worst season last year. In the second

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Speaker 1: To me, this is a highly risky deal. I would

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Speaker 2: But the Steelers stepped up.

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Speaker 1: You want you want the great players to stay as

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Speaker 1: long as possible. Will levis not a great player for

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Speaker 1: the Titans last year. We're taping on Monday. This morning,

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Speaker 1: Anything stand out to you there.

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Speaker 5: No, I mean, it's it's unfortunate because he's had such

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Speaker 5: a tumultuous time in Nashville with this team and as

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Speaker 5: they've gone through so much transition, and he has been

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Speaker 5: whole shot of Brian Callahan, what are you doing on

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Speaker 3: But that's essentially his fate is sealed. That's that's his future.

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Speaker 1: So I should have given credit to our guy the

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Speaker 1: Insider Game. It's back on Ian Rappaport broke this exclusively,

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Speaker 1: the team, you know, Levis decided to do this, and

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Speaker 1: He supposedly was having good training him. I'm sure it

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Speaker 1: was it was a Titans you know content creator who said, oh,

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Speaker 1: will Levis like waiting and waiting and waiting till the

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Speaker 2: This doesn't seem unlike him at all.

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Speaker 3: So I mean, like I said, self inflicted airs.

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Speaker 1: again we're getting to fifty nine position battles today. Mike

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Speaker 2: I was expecting this.

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Speaker 1: Offseason before Mike Williams retired, and now he retires.

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Speaker 2: He's thirty.

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Speaker 1: He had recurring injuries and just didn't feel good coming

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Speaker 1: And what do you think about, like what's around her

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Speaker 5: It was Lad McConkey and trying to run Josh Palmer deep,

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Speaker 5: which did not work for them. And I don't feel

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Speaker 5: much better about where they stand right now. I mean,

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Speaker 5: just a lot of it's a big question mark. This

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Speaker 5: good as Justin Herbert. That is not their identity. We

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Speaker 5: know where they've invested, and it's been in the running

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Speaker 5: a tough, throwback, physical team. That's the Harball identity. It

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Speaker 5: just doesn't make me feel good about this group. But

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Speaker 5: also it gave me like a reason to dive into

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Speaker 5: Mike Williams' career picture for a second. Okay, and for

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Speaker 5: as much as we you know, valued him as a

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Speaker 1: and my old boss Mike Floria helping him out by

438
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Speaker 1: Pablo Torri unearthing this document that the NFLPA in the

439
00:20:00,359 --> 00:20:04,800
Speaker 1: league had a confidentiality agreement to keep quiet over an

440
00:20:04,880 --> 00:20:08,919
Speaker 1: arbitrator's ruling about possible collusion over quarterback salaries. And then

441
00:20:08,960 --> 00:20:14,800
Speaker 1: there were a number of other investigations and revelations about Howell.

442
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Speaker 4: And the.

443
00:20:17,359 --> 00:20:20,879
Speaker 1: Really logline of this all is that, look, time flies,

444
00:20:20,920 --> 00:20:24,160
Speaker 1: We're already halfway through this collective bargaining agreement. They're gonna

445
00:20:24,320 --> 00:20:26,879
Speaker 1: be able to redo the TV deals in a few years.

446
00:20:26,920 --> 00:20:30,040
Speaker 1: It's a new CBA in another five years, and so

447
00:20:30,080 --> 00:20:33,600
Speaker 1: the NFLPA is looking for an executive director and just

448
00:20:34,040 --> 00:20:38,879
Speaker 1: a lot of upheaval within their organization. Man, this section

449
00:20:39,000 --> 00:20:43,240
Speaker 1: is my least favorite section of the show. We got

450
00:20:43,280 --> 00:20:47,840
Speaker 1: Trump talking about the Washington Commanders possibly changing their name

451
00:20:47,880 --> 00:20:50,439
Speaker 1: back Shook to their old name, and I was like,

452
00:20:50,640 --> 00:20:53,399
Speaker 1: is this worth even mentioning on the show. It's just,

453
00:20:54,200 --> 00:20:57,040
Speaker 1: you know, a social media post, but there is some

454
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Speaker 1: actual football relevance here because there's a threat the the

455
00:21:00,840 --> 00:21:06,960
Speaker 1: federal government is helping to potentially fund a new stadium

456
00:21:07,280 --> 00:21:10,680
Speaker 1: and part of what Trump put in the social media

457
00:21:10,720 --> 00:21:14,639
Speaker 1: post was that could potentially be contingent on them changing

458
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Speaker 1: the name back. The mayor was asked about it on

459
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Speaker 1: Monday morning, So I don't think there's much to say here, Shook,

460
00:21:21,359 --> 00:21:23,840
Speaker 1: But it's just a story that maybe going away. I

461
00:21:23,920 --> 00:21:26,239
Speaker 1: just say, bring the Washington football team name back that

462
00:21:26,359 --> 00:21:27,399
Speaker 1: everyone could agree with.

463
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Speaker 3: I think it's fine.

464
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Speaker 5: I just think that it may be a product of

465
00:21:32,119 --> 00:21:36,040
Speaker 5: boredom and being online too much, because how does it matter.

466
00:21:36,480 --> 00:21:38,600
Speaker 5: I understand how it matters because they're trying to build

467
00:21:38,640 --> 00:21:41,399
Speaker 5: a stadium and for the first time in seemingly forever,

468
00:21:41,480 --> 00:21:44,320
Speaker 5: this franchise has a ton of positive momentum, so of

469
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Speaker 5: course something.

470
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Speaker 3: Like this has to get in the way.

471
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Speaker 5: But yeah, hopefully this all just blows over in a

472
00:21:49,480 --> 00:21:51,200
Speaker 5: week from now, it's not a topic anymore.

473
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Speaker 1: We'll see like they are wearing some of the old

474
00:21:53,880 --> 00:21:58,040
Speaker 1: throwback uniforms you've seen in social them, kind of embracing

475
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Speaker 1: their history as you would expect. It's a proud franchise.

476
00:22:01,240 --> 00:22:05,040
Speaker 1: But I thought we were done talking about the name

477
00:22:05,280 --> 00:22:08,240
Speaker 1: of the team. I thought Commanders was actually going.

478
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Speaker 3: To be fine.

479
00:22:09,280 --> 00:22:13,400
Speaker 5: It's totally fine, and the uniforms are fine, everything's fine.

480
00:22:13,440 --> 00:22:14,000
Speaker 5: Let's just move on.

481
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Speaker 2: I'm saying it tongue in cheek. I think people would

482
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Speaker 2: be all for Washington football team. I liked it.

483
00:22:18,840 --> 00:22:21,440
Speaker 1: Rashi Rice and this ends are off the field part

484
00:22:21,480 --> 00:22:28,200
Speaker 1: of the show. Finally received his punishment for the arrest

485
00:22:28,280 --> 00:22:31,879
Speaker 1: he had last offseason. He will be sentenced to thirty

486
00:22:32,000 --> 00:22:36,119
Speaker 1: days in jail and five years of probation after authorities

487
00:22:36,160 --> 00:22:39,119
Speaker 1: said he and another speeding driver caused a chain reaction

488
00:22:39,240 --> 00:22:42,440
Speaker 1: crash that left multiple people injured on the Dallas Highway

489
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Speaker 1: last year.

490
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Speaker 2: That's it.

491
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Speaker 1: It's like a down note to go into news. And

492
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Speaker 1: by the way, he's going to show up to training

493
00:22:49,880 --> 00:22:52,040
Speaker 1: camp and the Chiefs are just going to wait to

494
00:22:52,119 --> 00:22:55,560
Speaker 1: see how long he's suspended, assuming he is suspended, but

495
00:22:55,600 --> 00:22:57,680
Speaker 1: we haven't heard anything from the league yet. So for now,

496
00:22:57,760 --> 00:22:59,960
Speaker 1: Rashi Rice is just showing up and we'll be practicing

497
00:23:00,560 --> 00:23:03,000
Speaker 1: at training camp unless the league comes to a very

498
00:23:03,080 --> 00:23:07,280
Speaker 1: quick decision. Is such a sour note there to end

499
00:23:07,280 --> 00:23:09,200
Speaker 1: the news on that. I think we got to circle

500
00:23:09,240 --> 00:23:11,000
Speaker 1: back to these Chargers who are giving us a lot

501
00:23:11,000 --> 00:23:13,159
Speaker 1: of news. It's always an advantage you show up for

502
00:23:13,200 --> 00:23:14,680
Speaker 1: that first week, you just dominate the news.

503
00:23:14,720 --> 00:23:15,480
Speaker 2: Cycle for a week.

504
00:23:15,760 --> 00:23:21,320
Speaker 1: Herbo Shook showed up with those contacts, like the UV

505
00:23:22,160 --> 00:23:25,560
Speaker 1: rate contacts where you kind of look like. One of

506
00:23:25,600 --> 00:23:28,160
Speaker 1: the reporters there said he looked like the Sith Lord.

507
00:23:28,200 --> 00:23:30,119
Speaker 1: I'm not as familiar with the Star Wars, but I

508
00:23:30,160 --> 00:23:31,800
Speaker 1: kind of know what he's getting at. He looks a

509
00:23:31,840 --> 00:23:34,640
Speaker 1: little freaky in the huddle. Do you think that means

510
00:23:34,640 --> 00:23:36,560
Speaker 1: we get a better justin Herbert, Well.

511
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Speaker 3: I can tell you one thing.

512
00:23:38,480 --> 00:23:40,520
Speaker 5: Back in the day, I think it was Brian Roberts

513
00:23:40,520 --> 00:23:42,240
Speaker 5: of the Orioles used to wear these contacts.

514
00:23:42,280 --> 00:23:44,760
Speaker 3: They were made by Nike at the time. I got

515
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Speaker 3: a pair.

516
00:23:45,200 --> 00:23:47,200
Speaker 5: You could get a trial pair in your prescription because

517
00:23:47,200 --> 00:23:49,920
Speaker 5: I'm blind as a bat without contacts, and I wore

518
00:23:49,960 --> 00:23:53,919
Speaker 5: them playing high school baseball. It is incredible how vivid

519
00:23:53,960 --> 00:23:56,760
Speaker 5: the colors are and how it really helps it separates

520
00:23:57,080 --> 00:23:59,760
Speaker 5: you can see the ball. I could totally understand why

521
00:23:59,800 --> 00:24:02,360
Speaker 5: he do that. There doesn't mean he's gonna score more touchdowns.

522
00:24:02,359 --> 00:24:04,560
Speaker 5: They do play in a stadium with a translucent roof,

523
00:24:04,680 --> 00:24:05,760
Speaker 5: so I don't really But.

524
00:24:05,720 --> 00:24:08,119
Speaker 2: It's not like is your vision better? Is your vision?

525
00:24:08,800 --> 00:24:10,800
Speaker 3: It's like wearing contacts, but the colors are changed.

526
00:24:10,840 --> 00:24:13,280
Speaker 5: It's like putting sunglasses on your eyes, Like if you

527
00:24:13,320 --> 00:24:16,119
Speaker 5: wear the top tier sunglasses, that just make things green

528
00:24:16,240 --> 00:24:17,439
Speaker 5: is more green, and.

529
00:24:17,320 --> 00:24:20,399
Speaker 3: Things like that. The football pops that sort of thing.

530
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Speaker 5: I don't think they're gonna score more points, but it's

531
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Speaker 5: kind of fun to watch, and it's cool to look

532
00:24:24,119 --> 00:24:25,920
Speaker 5: at when you look at the pictures of him up close,

533
00:24:25,960 --> 00:24:26,840
Speaker 5: because he looks crazy.

534
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Speaker 1: It's funny you mentioned that there's multiple things that play here.

535
00:24:30,760 --> 00:24:35,320
Speaker 1: For me personally, I'm colorblind, so green isn't always exactly green,

536
00:24:35,440 --> 00:24:37,639
Speaker 1: or it kind of blends in a little bit with

537
00:24:37,760 --> 00:24:41,119
Speaker 1: brown and gray and purple. A lot of confusion, a

538
00:24:41,119 --> 00:24:44,479
Speaker 1: lot of making fun of me by my kids. I

539
00:24:45,000 --> 00:24:48,720
Speaker 1: in Tokyo got some prescription sunglasses, and this is making

540
00:24:48,760 --> 00:24:51,800
Speaker 1: me think of that. The thing is popping more than ever,

541
00:24:51,840 --> 00:24:54,280
Speaker 1: and I'm like, it doesn't really make any sense because

542
00:24:54,359 --> 00:24:58,320
Speaker 1: I wear sunglasses over my just normal contacts and shouldn't

543
00:24:58,359 --> 00:25:00,919
Speaker 1: not be the same. But you just explain something to me.

544
00:25:00,960 --> 00:25:04,240
Speaker 2: I actually thought maybe the prescription in these are too strong,

545
00:25:04,720 --> 00:25:06,720
Speaker 2: cause it's like, I'm I feel like I'm in a

546
00:25:06,800 --> 00:25:09,840
Speaker 2: VR headset when I'm wearing these descriptions. It's the first

547
00:25:09,840 --> 00:25:10,680
Speaker 2: I ever got.

548
00:25:10,760 --> 00:25:12,560
Speaker 5: And it opens your world up like it's just and

549
00:25:12,640 --> 00:25:14,680
Speaker 5: when you take them out or you take those sunglasses off,

550
00:25:14,720 --> 00:25:16,280
Speaker 5: you're like, got it. I think I want to put

551
00:25:16,280 --> 00:25:19,520
Speaker 5: these back on. Maybe it's not ultra realistic because they're tinted,

552
00:25:19,520 --> 00:25:21,280
Speaker 5: but it's amazing to experience.

553
00:25:21,720 --> 00:25:24,560
Speaker 1: We've spent way too long on this, but shout out

554
00:25:24,600 --> 00:25:27,919
Speaker 1: to Japan, who is coming up with a way to

555
00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:33,199
Speaker 1: give me high quality and attractive products for like a

556
00:25:33,240 --> 00:25:34,880
Speaker 1: fraction of the price that you would get here.

557
00:25:34,960 --> 00:25:36,240
Speaker 2: So let's like, let's step up.

558
00:25:36,280 --> 00:25:39,720
Speaker 1: That's why I'm doing things like buying sneakers and prescription

559
00:25:39,800 --> 00:25:40,560
Speaker 1: sunglasses there.

560
00:25:40,560 --> 00:25:44,040
Speaker 2: Everything is is way cheaper there. Shout out to uh,

561
00:25:44,160 --> 00:25:46,720
Speaker 2: shout out to Japan. Let's let's step it up America.

562
00:25:46,800 --> 00:26:04,760
Speaker 2: And with that, let's take a little break back on

563
00:26:04,920 --> 00:26:05,639
Speaker 2: NFL daily.

564
00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:12,280
Speaker 1: I'm here in slightly rainy southern California and my backyard

565
00:26:13,520 --> 00:26:14,160
Speaker 1: is a little.

566
00:26:13,960 --> 00:26:15,720
Speaker 2: Bit of a pond right now. And it's not because

567
00:26:15,760 --> 00:26:16,680
Speaker 2: the rain shook.

568
00:26:16,720 --> 00:26:20,639
Speaker 1: It's because there's a broken water pipe deep within my ground,

569
00:26:20,640 --> 00:26:23,439
Speaker 1: which is a major problem. And I've got someone digging

570
00:26:23,440 --> 00:26:25,200
Speaker 1: the entire yard up in.

571
00:26:25,080 --> 00:26:27,320
Speaker 3: My oh French drain.

572
00:26:27,720 --> 00:26:30,000
Speaker 1: Like my water bill is gonna be like thousands of

573
00:26:30,040 --> 00:26:33,560
Speaker 1: dollars because it was leaking the entire time I was gone,

574
00:26:33,720 --> 00:26:36,160
Speaker 1: and then I came back to a lake in the backyard,

575
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Speaker 1: So that that's fun. Position battles. I wrote down fifty nine.

576
00:26:40,280 --> 00:26:41,919
Speaker 1: I just thought it'd be a good exercise for me

577
00:26:42,000 --> 00:26:45,840
Speaker 1: personally to just go through them all and like have

578
00:26:45,880 --> 00:26:47,800
Speaker 1: an idea of what we're dealing with, and write them

579
00:26:47,840 --> 00:26:49,920
Speaker 1: down as I went, and we'd talk about the top

580
00:26:50,119 --> 00:26:54,080
Speaker 1: shelf ones. And then I thought, why not take this

581
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Speaker 1: as a challenge, Shook, do you think we can get

582
00:26:56,240 --> 00:26:57,640
Speaker 1: fifty nine position.

583
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Speaker 2: Battles in without this show being like insane? Lee Long?

584
00:27:01,240 --> 00:27:04,360
Speaker 5: Well, I'm gonna have to really be economical with my words.

585
00:27:04,440 --> 00:27:08,439
Speaker 5: But really everybody should take away is that if they

586
00:27:08,440 --> 00:27:10,560
Speaker 5: ever't need an example of how Greg Rosenthal is a

587
00:27:10,560 --> 00:27:13,760
Speaker 5: football sicko, it's the fifty nine position battles that we're gonna.

588
00:27:13,800 --> 00:27:16,080
Speaker 1: Okay, here we go, though, I'm gonna rank them in

589
00:27:16,320 --> 00:27:19,240
Speaker 1: order of how much I actually want to talk about them,

590
00:27:19,280 --> 00:27:22,880
Speaker 1: so we can talk pretty quickly about the top ten,

591
00:27:23,080 --> 00:27:25,879
Speaker 1: the top twenty, and then we'll really fly through the rest.

592
00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:28,560
Speaker 1: Just just pick out some highlights and some quick thoughts.

593
00:27:28,600 --> 00:27:32,000
Speaker 1: But we don't need to go too crazy. So I

594
00:27:32,000 --> 00:27:34,359
Speaker 1: think the position battle I want to talk about the

595
00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:38,199
Speaker 1: most is maybe this is obvious because it's not all

596
00:27:38,280 --> 00:27:43,000
Speaker 1: quarterbacks at the top, but Jamis and Russ and Jackson.

597
00:27:43,080 --> 00:27:49,720
Speaker 1: Dar is to me the perfect kind of dumb, chaotic

598
00:27:50,880 --> 00:27:53,520
Speaker 1: summer fair that I like, you know what I mean.

599
00:27:54,040 --> 00:27:57,720
Speaker 1: It's like a much better version of the Browns Quarterback Battle,

600
00:27:57,720 --> 00:28:00,199
Speaker 1: which just seems like kind of depressing to me. Like

601
00:28:00,200 --> 00:28:03,160
Speaker 1: this all just seems so funny imagining those three guys

602
00:28:03,160 --> 00:28:06,440
Speaker 1: in the room. They all have extremely chaotic playing styles.

603
00:28:06,720 --> 00:28:08,800
Speaker 1: None of them really seem like they fit with Brian

604
00:28:08,880 --> 00:28:13,160
Speaker 1: Dable to me exactly, maybe Winston. I don't even know

605
00:28:13,480 --> 00:28:15,720
Speaker 1: it's in New York. There's gonna be a good quote

606
00:28:15,760 --> 00:28:18,200
Speaker 1: like everything about it. I'm actually in on it. I'd

607
00:28:18,200 --> 00:28:19,600
Speaker 1: like it even more if I felt like it was

608
00:28:19,640 --> 00:28:22,600
Speaker 1: truly an open battle. But I guess it's Russ's job

609
00:28:22,640 --> 00:28:23,040
Speaker 1: to lose.

610
00:28:23,040 --> 00:28:23,639
Speaker 2: What do you think?

611
00:28:23,840 --> 00:28:27,159
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's the perfect quarterback training camp battle, Soux Flea, Like,

612
00:28:27,200 --> 00:28:30,400
Speaker 5: we just get the primary ingredients, we get the accoutrement,

613
00:28:30,600 --> 00:28:33,800
Speaker 5: we get the aromatics that make everything better, Like you

614
00:28:33,920 --> 00:28:38,920
Speaker 5: got your base is Russell Wilson, and then Jameis Winston's like, dude,

615
00:28:38,920 --> 00:28:41,040
Speaker 5: the interesting spicy thing that we threw on, and then

616
00:28:41,120 --> 00:28:43,520
Speaker 5: Jackson darts the unknown that ends up bringing out the

617
00:28:43,520 --> 00:28:46,640
Speaker 5: whole dish. It's it's Russ's job. This sound's gonna go.

618
00:28:46,720 --> 00:28:48,240
Speaker 5: Russ is gonna win the job because it's gonna be

619
00:28:48,280 --> 00:28:51,240
Speaker 5: his job. Jameis is gonna be your backup, veteran backup,

620
00:28:51,360 --> 00:28:52,760
Speaker 5: and Dart's gonna be the ooh.

621
00:28:52,960 --> 00:28:55,160
Speaker 3: I don't know, we don't know anything about him.

622
00:28:55,200 --> 00:28:56,400
Speaker 5: Let's see if we can get him all the If

623
00:28:56,440 --> 00:28:59,320
Speaker 5: things go really poorly, don't be surprised if Jackson darts

624
00:28:59,320 --> 00:29:01,080
Speaker 5: on the field. But I think for now that's the

625
00:29:01,120 --> 00:29:01,920
Speaker 5: way it lines up.

626
00:29:02,360 --> 00:29:06,760
Speaker 2: See, I don't know. Like Russell Wilson was with Sean Payton,

627
00:29:06,840 --> 00:29:08,560
Speaker 2: Sean Payton couldn't wait to get rid of him.

628
00:29:08,560 --> 00:29:12,400
Speaker 1: He didn't fit. He was with Arthur Smith and the Steelers. Ultimately,

629
00:29:12,560 --> 00:29:16,120
Speaker 1: in terms of the contract offers, they chose Justin Fields

630
00:29:16,160 --> 00:29:18,080
Speaker 1: as a guy they would rather have long term over

631
00:29:18,120 --> 00:29:18,800
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson.

632
00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:21,560
Speaker 2: They did not want to keep Russell Wilson. He's not

633
00:29:21,600 --> 00:29:24,520
Speaker 2: getting paid like that much. Mounch. I guess he's probably

634
00:29:24,520 --> 00:29:25,800
Speaker 2: gonna be the starter. I'd feel better.

635
00:29:25,800 --> 00:29:29,120
Speaker 1: I think Jamis would be the most interesting and maybe

636
00:29:29,120 --> 00:29:31,240
Speaker 1: give them the best chance to win. But I look

637
00:29:31,280 --> 00:29:33,440
Speaker 1: at them all and just think of the ups and

638
00:29:33,480 --> 00:29:35,560
Speaker 1: the downs Jamis has had since he was a number

639
00:29:35,600 --> 00:29:38,520
Speaker 1: one overall pick, like one of the characters Russell Wilson,

640
00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:42,560
Speaker 1: like one of the defining figures of his generation, like

641
00:29:42,720 --> 00:29:45,920
Speaker 1: so up and down, such a high ceiling in theory

642
00:29:45,920 --> 00:29:48,640
Speaker 1: but not anymore, and a really low floor. And that's

643
00:29:48,640 --> 00:29:50,480
Speaker 1: how I think of Jackson Dart too, who as a

644
00:29:50,520 --> 00:29:53,360
Speaker 1: prospect to me was completely boom or buss, had so

645
00:29:53,480 --> 00:29:56,560
Speaker 1: much to learn. I think he is playing to potentially

646
00:29:56,560 --> 00:29:59,280
Speaker 1: win the week one job, and if he plays well enough,

647
00:29:59,440 --> 00:30:01,360
Speaker 1: he's gonna get at that job in like week three

648
00:30:01,600 --> 00:30:03,640
Speaker 1: or week four at the latest. So we will see.

649
00:30:03,640 --> 00:30:06,240
Speaker 1: But I'm just ready for anything there. Number two on

650
00:30:06,280 --> 00:30:09,400
Speaker 1: my list is the Bucks wide receivers. So we got

651
00:30:09,400 --> 00:30:13,200
Speaker 1: Amika Agbuka, We've got Jalen McMillan, who we haven't talked

652
00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:16,920
Speaker 1: about much on the show, and then we've got Chris Godwin,

653
00:30:16,920 --> 00:30:18,560
Speaker 1: who's not going to be ready for the start of

654
00:30:18,640 --> 00:30:21,080
Speaker 1: training camp, so he's there with his health. Obviously it's

655
00:30:21,120 --> 00:30:23,360
Speaker 1: his job when he gets there. But I just didn't

656
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Speaker 1: want to sleep on McMillan because man, he ended sees

657
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Speaker 1: the last season really strong, and they've got some other

658
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Speaker 1: guys there, Trey Palmer and then my guy Sterling Shepherd

659
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Speaker 1: actually ended the season as like a nice role player,

660
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Speaker 1: So I just thought that was an interesting mix. Everyone

661
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Speaker 1: all automatically assumes the first round pick Agbuka comes in

662
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Speaker 1: there and has a great role. But this is where

663
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Speaker 1: training camp can can help you learn some things like

664
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Speaker 1: will he hit the ground running and it doesn't always

665
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Speaker 1: happen and you can pick this up with training camp

666
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Speaker 1: reports and kind of how the preseason is going.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, but I love this group on paper, Like, I

668
00:30:54,800 --> 00:30:56,760
Speaker 5: know what we worried about Gobhin not coming back healthy,

669
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Speaker 5: you know immediately, but this is like the top six.

670
00:30:59,440 --> 00:31:02,520
Speaker 5: I'm good with this, like Evans, Gobin, Abuka, McMillan, Shepherd,

671
00:31:02,560 --> 00:31:04,440
Speaker 5: even Trey Palmer, Like I like all these guys. They

672
00:31:04,480 --> 00:31:07,360
Speaker 5: also drafted Ted Johnson who's very thin and slight for

673
00:31:07,360 --> 00:31:09,480
Speaker 5: forgot about that the NFL, but had a nice career

674
00:31:09,520 --> 00:31:11,760
Speaker 5: at Oregon. Like, I love this group, and I also

675
00:31:11,800 --> 00:31:14,200
Speaker 5: love the way that McMillan ended his season like he

676
00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:17,320
Speaker 5: in the back half basically from what is it week

677
00:31:17,400 --> 00:31:21,239
Speaker 5: twelve on he was pretty solid, like he okay, two

678
00:31:21,320 --> 00:31:22,680
Speaker 5: for twenty five in one game, but then you get

679
00:31:22,680 --> 00:31:25,120
Speaker 5: five for seventy five, five for seventy four in a touchdown,

680
00:31:25,640 --> 00:31:27,560
Speaker 5: four for fifty nine and two touchdowns. How much of

681
00:31:27,560 --> 00:31:29,800
Speaker 5: that is due to Baker Mayfield and Liam Cohen and

682
00:31:29,840 --> 00:31:32,000
Speaker 5: then offense and the fact that he's playing with Godwin

683
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Speaker 5: and Evans or at that point it was just Evans

684
00:31:33,920 --> 00:31:36,160
Speaker 5: and whoever else to get throw out there, including Shepard.

685
00:31:36,400 --> 00:31:38,360
Speaker 5: That remains me seen, but I think his upside is

686
00:31:38,480 --> 00:31:40,320
Speaker 5: very high. And adding Abuk into that group, I think

687
00:31:40,320 --> 00:31:42,800
Speaker 5: it's one of the stronger receiving cores in the NFL.

688
00:31:42,840 --> 00:31:46,000
Speaker 5: So I'm super excited, and frankly, I don't really necessarily

689
00:31:46,000 --> 00:31:47,320
Speaker 5: worry about how it's going to shake out.

690
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Speaker 2: I just think they have a lot of options. I

691
00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:52,080
Speaker 2: agree McMillan, I think don't sleep on it. I was

692
00:31:52,080 --> 00:31:54,760
Speaker 2: a little like Bucky Irving, like he really picked up

693
00:31:54,760 --> 00:31:57,440
Speaker 2: his play late in the season and made some difficult

694
00:31:57,440 --> 00:31:59,920
Speaker 2: catches down the field, Like he is the speeds to.

695
00:32:00,560 --> 00:32:03,080
Speaker 1: Of that group. And I just love that team. I

696
00:32:03,120 --> 00:32:05,480
Speaker 1: love that that group. The next couple are the Cowboys.

697
00:32:05,520 --> 00:32:07,040
Speaker 1: I don't want to go two long. We might be

698
00:32:07,160 --> 00:32:10,600
Speaker 1: doing a little Cowboys on Tuesday show with Colleen Wolf.

699
00:32:11,280 --> 00:32:13,160
Speaker 1: But man, when I was going through it, I realized

700
00:32:13,240 --> 00:32:16,000
Speaker 1: their edge position is awesome. Like, you have the best

701
00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:18,600
Speaker 1: player in the league, potentially, Micah Parsons. That's who I

702
00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:20,800
Speaker 1: would take, even over your guy Miles Garrett. I could

703
00:32:20,800 --> 00:32:23,320
Speaker 1: just kick someone. I would take the Parsons. And then

704
00:32:23,360 --> 00:32:25,640
Speaker 1: on the other side you have a battle of Sam Williams,

705
00:32:26,200 --> 00:32:31,320
Speaker 1: who tours ACL in what early twenty twenty four but

706
00:32:32,120 --> 00:32:35,160
Speaker 1: looked really good in twenty twenty three as like a

707
00:32:35,160 --> 00:32:37,480
Speaker 1: young rising edge rusher. You have a first round pick

708
00:32:37,520 --> 00:32:40,960
Speaker 1: I liked a lot in Donovan Ezerako. You have Dante Fowler,

709
00:32:40,960 --> 00:32:43,160
Speaker 1: who you just mentioned had a nice season for Washington

710
00:32:43,240 --> 00:32:45,480
Speaker 1: last year. And then you have Marshawn Nelan who's coming

711
00:32:45,520 --> 00:32:48,120
Speaker 1: off of an injury as well, but is expected, I

712
00:32:48,120 --> 00:32:49,760
Speaker 1: think to be ready for the start of the season.

713
00:32:49,800 --> 00:32:51,880
Speaker 1: He had a meniscus here, and I was thinking, like,

714
00:32:52,920 --> 00:32:54,960
Speaker 1: is this the bet just best edge group in the league.

715
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Speaker 2: The Cowboys are a little frisky.

716
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Speaker 1: That's a good group if everything worked out well and

717
00:33:00,840 --> 00:33:03,600
Speaker 1: those four are really fighting for snaps. Not everyone can play,

718
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Speaker 1: because you know Parsons is playing every snap.

719
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Speaker 5: Yeah, you're gonna stay fresh, and you're gonna stay fresh

720
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Speaker 5: opposite Michael Parsons. But I think it's really an example

721
00:33:10,040 --> 00:33:13,320
Speaker 5: of you buying into and believing in the potential of

722
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Speaker 5: what all these guys could be collectively.

723
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Speaker 3: And you know what, it's July. I'm on board with that.

724
00:33:18,120 --> 00:33:19,560
Speaker 2: Only like two need to hit.

725
00:33:19,600 --> 00:33:22,080
Speaker 1: And that's where the Cowboys running back situation doesn't make

726
00:33:22,160 --> 00:33:22,680
Speaker 1: much sense to me.

727
00:33:22,880 --> 00:33:23,920
Speaker 2: They're next on my list.

728
00:33:24,360 --> 00:33:29,800
Speaker 1: Their running back battle is Javonte Williams, who just did

729
00:33:29,800 --> 00:33:32,200
Speaker 1: not look good you know, most of the last couple

730
00:33:32,240 --> 00:33:35,600
Speaker 1: of years. Miles Sanders, who's sort of a journeyman at

731
00:33:35,600 --> 00:33:38,320
Speaker 1: this point, hasn't you know, really done And Jaden Blew,

732
00:33:38,400 --> 00:33:41,080
Speaker 1: a fifth round pick, who were already hearing whispers and

733
00:33:42,080 --> 00:33:45,040
Speaker 1: not positive ones about like how how he looked in

734
00:33:45,120 --> 00:33:49,440
Speaker 1: the off season. Just why, like why why it shouldn't

735
00:33:49,440 --> 00:33:51,360
Speaker 1: be this hard to find a running back, Shook.

736
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Speaker 5: This is also a team that let Tony Pollard walk

737
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Speaker 5: and they let Rico Dawbell walk, and this is how

738
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Speaker 5: they responded.

739
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Speaker 3: I think we've talked about this before. I hate this room.

740
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Speaker 5: I think it's it's one of the lowest ceiling rooms

741
00:34:02,440 --> 00:34:04,520
Speaker 5: in the NFL, especially when you're putting that next to

742
00:34:04,600 --> 00:34:06,840
Speaker 5: Dak Prescott. You finally get another receiver next to Cede Lamb,

743
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Speaker 5: and then you have this to show for running back.

744
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Speaker 3: I don't like it at all.

745
00:34:10,760 --> 00:34:12,040
Speaker 5: I think about Jaden and Blue as the guy who

746
00:34:12,120 --> 00:34:13,800
Speaker 5: ran the wheel rout against Ohio State and the Cotton

747
00:34:13,800 --> 00:34:16,239
Speaker 5: Bowl for a touchdown like it's it's basically that's what

748
00:34:16,280 --> 00:34:18,879
Speaker 5: I see out of him and the rest of the group.

749
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Speaker 5: Miles Sanders has operated an anonymity in Carolina and like

750
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Speaker 5: you said about Javonte Williams, after being an exciting guy

751
00:34:24,560 --> 00:34:26,319
Speaker 5: out of North Carolina, has never really put it together

752
00:34:26,320 --> 00:34:27,160
Speaker 5: in the last couple of years.

753
00:34:27,200 --> 00:34:28,320
Speaker 3: So low ceiling.

754
00:34:28,440 --> 00:34:29,839
Speaker 5: Not excited about this group at all, and I think

755
00:34:29,880 --> 00:34:31,520
Speaker 5: it could hold them back pretty significantly.

756
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Speaker 1: That it is a position, though you can find guys

757
00:34:33,920 --> 00:34:38,080
Speaker 1: from other teams. So could they be a Travis etn

758
00:34:38,239 --> 00:34:40,560
Speaker 1: team at the end of training camp, some sort of

759
00:34:40,640 --> 00:34:43,960
Speaker 1: veteran that you could, you know, send a sixth round pick,

760
00:34:44,280 --> 00:34:46,000
Speaker 1: you know, swap it the Cowboys love to do.

761
00:34:46,080 --> 00:34:48,799
Speaker 2: That wouldn't surprise me. But just why number five.

762
00:34:49,000 --> 00:34:54,040
Speaker 1: Let's go back to the quarterbacks, Tyler Shuck and Spencer Rattler. Again,

763
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Speaker 1: what I like in the summer is like it's like

764
00:34:57,719 --> 00:35:00,759
Speaker 1: popcorn movies. I like, I want it to be just

765
00:35:00,840 --> 00:35:03,520
Speaker 1: sort of dumb. This is what August is about. Like,

766
00:35:03,880 --> 00:35:06,279
Speaker 1: Spencer Rattler was all over the place last year, but

767
00:35:06,320 --> 00:35:08,680
Speaker 1: he's got a new head coach and Kellen Moore, who

768
00:35:08,719 --> 00:35:12,640
Speaker 1: I think will be a lot more organized, and he's

769
00:35:12,680 --> 00:35:15,480
Speaker 1: got that year of experience. In the offseason, supposedly he

770
00:35:15,520 --> 00:35:18,319
Speaker 1: looked better than Shuck, And yet we know Shuck, who

771
00:35:18,360 --> 00:35:21,720
Speaker 1: signed a fully guaranteed contract and is in camp on time,

772
00:35:22,640 --> 00:35:25,480
Speaker 1: is the heavy, heavy favorite. If it's anywhere close to

773
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Speaker 1: a tie, they'll give it to Shuck.

774
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Speaker 3: I would assume Shuck. Yeah, investments in him. Yeah.

775
00:35:31,840 --> 00:35:33,560
Speaker 5: Well I was kind of blew my mind when I've

776
00:35:33,560 --> 00:35:35,520
Speaker 5: heard some people pronouncing his name is Shuk even though

777
00:35:35,520 --> 00:35:39,000
Speaker 5: it spelled differently. Riddled me that, But yeah, it's it's

778
00:35:39,040 --> 00:35:41,759
Speaker 5: a little expectation team, and I think it starts at

779
00:35:41,800 --> 00:35:44,320
Speaker 5: quarterback because this is the guy that is the favorite.

780
00:35:44,600 --> 00:35:46,279
Speaker 3: But the agenda still exists.

781
00:35:46,920 --> 00:35:50,319
Speaker 5: The agenda continues to push Spencer Ratler into our consciousness,

782
00:35:50,320 --> 00:35:53,800
Speaker 5: and I like, you would totally sign up for chaos

783
00:35:53,840 --> 00:35:56,240
Speaker 5: that leads to Spencer Ratler being out there and putting

784
00:35:56,280 --> 00:35:57,399
Speaker 5: on a bit of a show with Kellen Moore.

785
00:35:57,440 --> 00:35:58,000
Speaker 3: That would be fun.

786
00:35:58,040 --> 00:36:01,520
Speaker 1: They they start the season with three NFC West teams,

787
00:36:01,560 --> 00:36:05,040
Speaker 1: which is not easy. Is there a chance that they

788
00:36:05,320 --> 00:36:07,439
Speaker 1: put Rattler out there at the beginning with some tough

789
00:36:07,480 --> 00:36:10,480
Speaker 1: games before the schedule opens up, just to just to

790
00:36:10,480 --> 00:36:12,080
Speaker 1: give him a chance, because you don't want to be

791
00:36:12,120 --> 00:36:13,200
Speaker 1: like flip flopping.

792
00:36:14,040 --> 00:36:17,520
Speaker 2: Maybe the rest of our listeners, Art is interested in that, but.

793
00:36:17,480 --> 00:36:19,600
Speaker 1: Like to me, that's what August is all about, like

794
00:36:19,640 --> 00:36:20,719
Speaker 1: finding a Week one starter.

795
00:36:20,760 --> 00:36:22,400
Speaker 2: It's these two weird guys.

796
00:36:22,680 --> 00:36:26,640
Speaker 1: You know, Shuck is significantly older than Rattler, but to

797
00:36:26,680 --> 00:36:29,800
Speaker 1: me had you know, very high ceiling tape in college

798
00:36:29,800 --> 00:36:32,200
Speaker 1: and yet couldn't handle pressure. It's just a lot going on.

799
00:36:32,320 --> 00:36:35,959
Speaker 1: I think it's fun. The Giant's Edge Battle was next

800
00:36:35,960 --> 00:36:39,080
Speaker 1: on my list because to me, it's just juicy that

801
00:36:39,120 --> 00:36:41,239
Speaker 1: you have the number two pick of the draft, Abdul Carter,

802
00:36:41,280 --> 00:36:44,360
Speaker 1: who just you just assume is gonna start. But you

803
00:36:44,440 --> 00:36:47,600
Speaker 1: have a guy in Keevon Thibodeaux who was a top

804
00:36:47,640 --> 00:36:52,960
Speaker 1: what's five pick and top seven pick, a hugely talented

805
00:36:53,239 --> 00:36:57,160
Speaker 1: hasn't really paid off that talent, but maybe he's got

806
00:36:57,200 --> 00:36:59,600
Speaker 1: a fire lit under him, he's got some experience, Like,

807
00:36:59,680 --> 00:37:03,080
Speaker 1: I'm not just assuming that Carter ends up ahead of him.

808
00:37:03,080 --> 00:37:06,239
Speaker 1: So to me, this is it's kind of fascinating. You

809
00:37:06,239 --> 00:37:08,960
Speaker 1: don't normally have two really high draft picks like that

810
00:37:09,040 --> 00:37:11,320
Speaker 1: going after each other at the same position.

811
00:37:11,640 --> 00:37:11,879
Speaker 3: Yeah.

812
00:37:11,920 --> 00:37:14,600
Speaker 5: I mean, if you look at this group as a whole,

813
00:37:14,640 --> 00:37:17,239
Speaker 5: I mean, Brian Burns opposite them, like they're gonna be

814
00:37:17,520 --> 00:37:18,600
Speaker 5: good either way.

815
00:37:18,680 --> 00:37:21,759
Speaker 1: It's just the Chauncey Golston too, who's like a good

816
00:37:22,040 --> 00:37:24,080
Speaker 1: he's a good fourth defensive end who they signed to

817
00:37:24,160 --> 00:37:25,960
Speaker 1: some money, who played for the Cowboys too.

818
00:37:26,000 --> 00:37:27,680
Speaker 5: Yeah, so you want to talk about edge groups. I

819
00:37:27,680 --> 00:37:29,239
Speaker 5: mean I kind of like this group more than the

820
00:37:29,280 --> 00:37:31,560
Speaker 5: last group we talked about. It's just a matter of

821
00:37:31,560 --> 00:37:34,040
Speaker 5: his When they drafted Carter, it was a no brainer

822
00:37:34,040 --> 00:37:35,319
Speaker 5: because a lot of people thought he was the best

823
00:37:35,360 --> 00:37:37,520
Speaker 5: player in the draft, so it made sense. But on

824
00:37:37,640 --> 00:37:41,400
Speaker 5: a roster construction from that standpoint, not so much. But

825
00:37:41,440 --> 00:37:43,719
Speaker 5: then again, is it because Kevon Thibodau is not the

826
00:37:43,719 --> 00:37:44,720
Speaker 5: guy they thought they were getting.

827
00:37:44,719 --> 00:37:45,200
Speaker 3: That's the question.

828
00:37:45,280 --> 00:37:47,279
Speaker 5: I think Carter wins this job, and I think it

829
00:37:47,320 --> 00:37:49,360
Speaker 5: applies pressure to Thibodeau, who I mean, he had his

830
00:37:49,360 --> 00:37:52,200
Speaker 5: own endorsement deals a year ago. Now he's looking at

831
00:37:52,239 --> 00:37:55,680
Speaker 5: potentially having to split snaps or start behind a rookie

832
00:37:55,719 --> 00:37:58,279
Speaker 5: in Abdul Carter, which makes it very interesting, especially in

833
00:37:58,280 --> 00:37:59,160
Speaker 5: a market like New York.

834
00:37:59,640 --> 00:38:04,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, I uh, I remember Cavon, you know on Draft front,

835
00:38:04,360 --> 00:38:07,319
Speaker 1: come in, we've made friend, We've made friends with him

836
00:38:07,400 --> 00:38:09,640
Speaker 1: on around the NFL, and I would say, yeah, the

837
00:38:09,680 --> 00:38:12,520
Speaker 1: Carter pick is not only was he the best pick,

838
00:38:12,560 --> 00:38:15,759
Speaker 1: And to me, they had two options, him or Travis Hunter.

839
00:38:15,760 --> 00:38:17,640
Speaker 1: I think they made the wrong choice personally, but I

840
00:38:17,640 --> 00:38:20,799
Speaker 1: think it had to be one of those two, and uh,

841
00:38:21,040 --> 00:38:22,640
Speaker 1: you had to take them for the talent. But part

842
00:38:22,680 --> 00:38:25,319
Speaker 1: of it is absolutely that that Thibodeau hasn't lived up

843
00:38:25,360 --> 00:38:28,040
Speaker 1: to his building. He's been like a good player, but

844
00:38:28,120 --> 00:38:30,600
Speaker 1: not a great player. And it's not like a quarterback battle.

845
00:38:30,600 --> 00:38:32,759
Speaker 1: They're both gonna play. It's just who's gonna be first

846
00:38:32,800 --> 00:38:36,000
Speaker 1: in line, who's gonna get more snaps? And if Carter

847
00:38:36,160 --> 00:38:39,239
Speaker 1: is playing a lot over Thibodeaux and Golston kind of

848
00:38:39,800 --> 00:38:42,239
Speaker 1: sneaks in there, and then it does. Does Thibodeau, you know,

849
00:38:42,280 --> 00:38:44,600
Speaker 1: honk a little bit. We'll see The next one is

850
00:38:44,840 --> 00:38:47,600
Speaker 1: a similar type of battle. I mentioned Shamar Stewart who's

851
00:38:47,600 --> 00:38:53,720
Speaker 1: holding out in Cincinnati. We presume the camp hasn't actually

852
00:38:53,880 --> 00:38:56,640
Speaker 1: started yet, but they were talking on Monday, just hopeful

853
00:38:56,719 --> 00:38:59,560
Speaker 1: that that he'll show up. And Trey Hendrickson also they're

854
00:38:59,560 --> 00:39:01,600
Speaker 1: not totally sure about, but I think he might show

855
00:39:01,680 --> 00:39:05,120
Speaker 1: up and hold in that. The edge battle opposite Hendrickson,

856
00:39:05,120 --> 00:39:08,000
Speaker 1: and if Hendrickson's not there is is pretty grim. It's

857
00:39:08,000 --> 00:39:10,200
Speaker 1: a former first round pick, Miles Murphy who hasn't done

858
00:39:10,200 --> 00:39:14,120
Speaker 1: anything in his first two years. It's Stuart who was

859
00:39:14,160 --> 00:39:17,520
Speaker 1: like the biggest workout wonder of the the league. And

860
00:39:17,560 --> 00:39:20,279
Speaker 1: it's another guy, Joseph Assai who they brought back, who

861
00:39:20,280 --> 00:39:23,080
Speaker 1: they've always had high hopes for. I remember him in

862
00:39:23,080 --> 00:39:25,080
Speaker 1: that in that Super Bowl making a couple of plays

863
00:39:25,080 --> 00:39:30,040
Speaker 1: against the Rams, But otherwise it has been mostly quiet and man,

864
00:39:30,600 --> 00:39:34,760
Speaker 1: that's it's kind of a thin group there, shook, especially

865
00:39:34,760 --> 00:39:37,040
Speaker 1: if Hendrickson's not there. But even if Hendrickson's there, that's

866
00:39:37,080 --> 00:39:40,000
Speaker 1: that's an interesting group with some first round picks after him.

867
00:39:40,560 --> 00:39:42,879
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think that in such a what I think

868
00:39:42,880 --> 00:39:44,759
Speaker 5: it's going to be a pivotal season for the Bengals

869
00:39:44,840 --> 00:39:47,239
Speaker 5: that they've done themselves a massive disservice by letting this

870
00:39:47,320 --> 00:39:50,880
Speaker 5: Hendricksson thing last as long as it has, understandably because

871
00:39:51,200 --> 00:39:56,920
Speaker 5: money is involved. But the rest of the group, I mean, yeah, yeah,

872
00:39:56,960 --> 00:39:59,560
Speaker 5: you have to replace a guy or retired and suddenly

873
00:40:00,280 --> 00:40:02,640
Speaker 5: you can't figure out who's gonna be there, and so

874
00:40:02,719 --> 00:40:05,040
Speaker 5: you go with Osai. You hope you take trades guys

875
00:40:05,040 --> 00:40:08,360
Speaker 5: in Stuart and Murphy. Lack of production coming out of college,

876
00:40:08,440 --> 00:40:11,040
Speaker 5: especially Stuart, and you can't even get Stewart in the building.

877
00:40:11,080 --> 00:40:12,759
Speaker 5: Do you want to talk about grim? I would be

878
00:40:12,920 --> 00:40:14,480
Speaker 5: very worried if I was a Bengals fan about this,

879
00:40:14,560 --> 00:40:16,480
Speaker 5: especially if they can't figure it out with Hendrickson. And

880
00:40:17,239 --> 00:40:18,840
Speaker 5: this is a defense that was so bad lou An

881
00:40:18,960 --> 00:40:21,800
Speaker 5: Rubaul lost his job. This is gonna be an important

882
00:40:21,800 --> 00:40:23,120
Speaker 5: part of your team if you're gonna get back to

883
00:40:23,120 --> 00:40:25,960
Speaker 5: the playoffs and going into camp like this every year

884
00:40:26,000 --> 00:40:27,040
Speaker 5: there's something with them in camp.

885
00:40:27,040 --> 00:40:29,880
Speaker 2: But this is not encouraging, right, just because I want to,

886
00:40:30,160 --> 00:40:31,600
Speaker 2: you know, combine them.

887
00:40:31,840 --> 00:40:34,040
Speaker 1: At number twenty one on my list is the guard

888
00:40:34,120 --> 00:40:36,839
Speaker 1: situation with the Bengals too. It's just a really good

889
00:40:36,880 --> 00:40:41,560
Speaker 1: team to have some really big holes when you look

890
00:40:41,560 --> 00:40:44,280
Speaker 1: at their roster their cornerback position too. They have to

891
00:40:44,320 --> 00:40:47,279
Speaker 1: shake out but edge and then their guards, where really

892
00:40:47,320 --> 00:40:51,080
Speaker 1: both spots are up for grabs, and they're hoping some

893
00:40:51,120 --> 00:40:53,360
Speaker 1: of their draft picks pan out, and everyone just assumes

894
00:40:53,360 --> 00:40:55,080
Speaker 1: the draft picks are going to pan out. And then

895
00:40:55,120 --> 00:40:57,080
Speaker 1: you just look at Miles Murphy a year ago at

896
00:40:57,080 --> 00:40:58,680
Speaker 1: this time, he's the ad dresser.

897
00:40:58,960 --> 00:40:59,880
Speaker 2: There are all these articles.

898
00:41:00,040 --> 00:41:03,480
Speaker 1: Okay, after a quiet first year, first round pick, Miles

899
00:41:03,560 --> 00:41:06,120
Speaker 1: Murphy is ready to go and he's gonna be a

900
00:41:06,160 --> 00:41:09,200
Speaker 1: big contributor for the Bengals. And then we got nothing

901
00:41:09,239 --> 00:41:12,279
Speaker 1: from him basically for the second straight year, and so

902
00:41:12,719 --> 00:41:14,640
Speaker 1: they got to show that they can develop these guys.

903
00:41:14,640 --> 00:41:18,920
Speaker 1: So it's a really good team in theory because it's

904
00:41:18,920 --> 00:41:21,239
Speaker 1: got really great strengths, but man, they have some big

905
00:41:21,280 --> 00:41:23,959
Speaker 1: holes at edge and at guard. We got to mention

906
00:41:24,040 --> 00:41:28,560
Speaker 1: the Colts quarterback situation. Anthony Richardson sounds like he's gonna

907
00:41:28,560 --> 00:41:30,799
Speaker 1: be ready for training camp, so that's good. It'll at

908
00:41:30,880 --> 00:41:34,560
Speaker 1: least give him in theory. Even footing with Daniel Jones,

909
00:41:34,560 --> 00:41:36,240
Speaker 1: who do you think wins that battle?

910
00:41:36,520 --> 00:41:36,840
Speaker 2: Shook?

911
00:41:38,480 --> 00:41:42,960
Speaker 5: I mean, the messaging with Richardson was weird when it

912
00:41:43,000 --> 00:41:45,240
Speaker 5: was revealed that he was gonna be participating in mini camp.

913
00:41:46,080 --> 00:41:48,879
Speaker 5: It's encouraging that he's gonna be ready, or at least

914
00:41:48,920 --> 00:41:49,799
Speaker 5: we think he's gonna be ready.

915
00:41:49,800 --> 00:41:50,680
Speaker 3: It sounds like he will be.

916
00:41:51,640 --> 00:41:55,480
Speaker 5: I mean, this is an absolutely pivotal crossroads year for him.

917
00:41:55,520 --> 00:41:58,200
Speaker 5: He's got to come through this year, and losing your

918
00:41:58,280 --> 00:42:01,800
Speaker 5: job to Daniel Jones would be embarrassing for him, but

919
00:42:01,840 --> 00:42:04,560
Speaker 5: also embarrassing for the Colts for spending the fourth overall

920
00:42:04,640 --> 00:42:05,120
Speaker 5: pick on him.

921
00:42:05,120 --> 00:42:06,640
Speaker 2: And yet they seem like they want to do it.

922
00:42:06,680 --> 00:42:09,920
Speaker 2: They can't do, you know, because thirteen million dollars.

923
00:42:09,360 --> 00:42:12,160
Speaker 5: Just yes, because I think Shane Steichen is tired of it.

924
00:42:12,239 --> 00:42:14,239
Speaker 5: He needs somebody he can rely on. I don't know

925
00:42:14,280 --> 00:42:16,040
Speaker 5: if he can rely on Daniel Jones unless he just

926
00:42:16,040 --> 00:42:18,840
Speaker 5: needed a change of scenery, so Eileen Richardson because of

927
00:42:18,840 --> 00:42:21,640
Speaker 5: the investment in him, But I also don't think that

928
00:42:21,719 --> 00:42:24,840
Speaker 5: they are completely committed to him in that they would

929
00:42:24,920 --> 00:42:28,120
Speaker 5: overlook him being you know, outworked or outperformed by Daniel

930
00:42:28,200 --> 00:42:29,640
Speaker 5: Jones in this camp. So I think it's gonna be

931
00:42:29,680 --> 00:42:32,360
Speaker 5: one of the more fascinating ones outside of you know,

932
00:42:32,400 --> 00:42:33,920
Speaker 5: what we talked about in New York and what we

933
00:42:34,000 --> 00:42:36,520
Speaker 5: might talk about in Cleveland. Just because it's going to

934
00:42:36,600 --> 00:42:39,280
Speaker 5: matter so much for the entire state of this franchise.

935
00:42:39,880 --> 00:42:42,000
Speaker 1: Right in post knee surgery, Daniel jos was not the

936
00:42:42,040 --> 00:42:44,080
Speaker 1: same as priest knee surgery. I know he was never

937
00:42:44,560 --> 00:42:46,839
Speaker 1: a Pro Bowl player, but he was worse last year

938
00:42:46,920 --> 00:42:50,719
Speaker 1: than he's ever looked and so maybe a year, you know, healthier,

939
00:42:50,880 --> 00:42:53,680
Speaker 1: he'll be better. But to me, Richardson should win this

940
00:42:53,719 --> 00:42:56,319
Speaker 1: bat out. They just be so much more interesting. There's

941
00:42:56,320 --> 00:42:58,799
Speaker 1: something weird going on there. I think they feel like

942
00:42:58,920 --> 00:43:03,400
Speaker 1: tough love is maybe like motivating Anthony Richardson, and so

943
00:43:03,480 --> 00:43:06,160
Speaker 1: that's why they've been so aggressive. We'll see the Jags

944
00:43:06,239 --> 00:43:11,000
Speaker 1: running backs that mentioned Travis Etn. Now I'm confusing the

945
00:43:11,040 --> 00:43:14,480
Speaker 1: Trevor and the Travis of the the Etn brothers who

946
00:43:14,520 --> 00:43:18,560
Speaker 1: are now in the NFL. You have the original one

947
00:43:18,640 --> 00:43:22,160
Speaker 1: is in Jacksonville and he's facing off against Tank Bigsby

948
00:43:22,680 --> 00:43:25,560
Speaker 1: and Bashall Tutan And I know who's a fourth round

949
00:43:25,560 --> 00:43:29,520
Speaker 1: pick this year. I know fantasy guys base everything off

950
00:43:29,600 --> 00:43:32,759
Speaker 1: last year, but sometimes sometimes guys show up different than

951
00:43:32,760 --> 00:43:34,680
Speaker 1: they were the year before, and who knows, maybe Etn

952
00:43:34,760 --> 00:43:36,720
Speaker 1: shows up this year and he looks better than Bigsby

953
00:43:36,760 --> 00:43:39,560
Speaker 1: and takes it back. It's an interesting group and if

954
00:43:39,600 --> 00:43:42,799
Speaker 1: Etn isn't the winner here and they like Tuton, then

955
00:43:42,840 --> 00:43:44,959
Speaker 1: maybe he's a trade chip at the end.

956
00:43:44,880 --> 00:43:47,120
Speaker 5: Of Yeah, you know, that's been the rumor so much

957
00:43:47,160 --> 00:43:48,680
Speaker 5: that Liam Cohen had to come out and talk about

958
00:43:48,680 --> 00:43:50,960
Speaker 5: it months ago about how much they love him. And

959
00:43:51,040 --> 00:43:53,160
Speaker 5: he shows up, he's consistent and everything else, which is

960
00:43:53,239 --> 00:43:55,520
Speaker 5: kind of like the ownership vote of confidence right before

961
00:43:55,520 --> 00:43:58,120
Speaker 5: a coach gets fired, where it's like it's that last

962
00:43:58,160 --> 00:43:59,399
Speaker 5: little nudge that.

963
00:43:59,360 --> 00:44:02,120
Speaker 3: We really like this guy, but we're also dangling him there.

964
00:44:02,680 --> 00:44:05,319
Speaker 5: Bigsby out performed him last year and it was not

965
00:44:05,360 --> 00:44:07,040
Speaker 5: a good offense, so you know, take that with a

966
00:44:07,080 --> 00:44:10,279
Speaker 5: grain of salt. Tuton's the guy who's very fast, who

967
00:44:10,440 --> 00:44:13,400
Speaker 5: didn't produce like the most positive marks coming out of

968
00:44:13,480 --> 00:44:15,880
Speaker 5: you know, the spring activities. So it's gonna be an

969
00:44:15,880 --> 00:44:19,000
Speaker 5: interesting dynamic there with those three. But I think by

970
00:44:19,040 --> 00:44:21,759
Speaker 5: the end of camp, if Etn doesn't show that he's

971
00:44:21,800 --> 00:44:24,120
Speaker 5: on track for a bounce back year, he's in trade

972
00:44:24,120 --> 00:44:26,200
Speaker 5: talks and we're talking about a big sbeed Tuoton backfield

973
00:44:26,200 --> 00:44:26,880
Speaker 5: in Jacksonville.

974
00:44:27,239 --> 00:44:30,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, Tutin was the guy who blew up the combine

975
00:44:30,200 --> 00:44:32,959
Speaker 1: with that four two or whatever, just just a big

976
00:44:33,000 --> 00:44:36,799
Speaker 1: boy running extremely fast. Finally our top ten. To wrap

977
00:44:36,880 --> 00:44:39,239
Speaker 1: up the top ten, we got forty nine more. After that,

978
00:44:39,560 --> 00:44:43,160
Speaker 1: we're going to fire through. It's the it's the Chiefs

979
00:44:43,360 --> 00:44:47,160
Speaker 1: tackle situation. So they're starting camp with Juwan Taylor. It's

980
00:44:47,200 --> 00:44:49,959
Speaker 1: been their right tackle on the pup list. I found

981
00:44:49,960 --> 00:44:53,759
Speaker 1: that really interesting because Josh Simmons, who fell in the

982
00:44:53,840 --> 00:44:56,800
Speaker 1: draft all the way to the Chiefs, very talented tackle

983
00:44:57,200 --> 00:45:00,799
Speaker 1: because he's coming off of a major neat construction, is

984
00:45:00,840 --> 00:45:03,680
Speaker 1: not on the pup list. So they have Simmons the

985
00:45:03,680 --> 00:45:06,399
Speaker 1: first round pick. They have Jalen Moore, who they gave

986
00:45:06,719 --> 00:45:08,960
Speaker 1: fifteen million dollars a year or two, who is the

987
00:45:09,000 --> 00:45:13,400
Speaker 1: backup to Trent Simmons over in San Francisco. And I

988
00:45:13,480 --> 00:45:15,279
Speaker 1: find this one really interesting because it's the Chiefs that

989
00:45:15,320 --> 00:45:18,399
Speaker 1: could impact the Super Bowl. But also like if Juan

990
00:45:18,520 --> 00:45:23,080
Speaker 1: Taylor takes a while to come back, like could both

991
00:45:23,080 --> 00:45:25,840
Speaker 1: of those guys start, Could Simmons be on one side

992
00:45:25,880 --> 00:45:28,840
Speaker 1: and on the right side maybe and Moore's on the

993
00:45:28,920 --> 00:45:32,600
Speaker 1: left side. In the end, you're kicking last year's second

994
00:45:32,640 --> 00:45:35,920
Speaker 1: round pick. Kingsley's wu a mattea inside to left tackle

995
00:45:36,239 --> 00:45:38,800
Speaker 1: maybe Jalen Moore, I mean to left guard rather actually

996
00:45:38,840 --> 00:45:41,160
Speaker 1: could move inside to left guard. There's been some talk

997
00:45:41,200 --> 00:45:44,040
Speaker 1: too if if they like Simmons at left tackle and

998
00:45:44,080 --> 00:45:47,360
Speaker 1: they pay them that way. So it's just a puzzle

999
00:45:47,760 --> 00:45:50,080
Speaker 1: that the Chiefs are trying to figure out. But Josh Simmons,

1000
00:45:50,160 --> 00:45:52,719
Speaker 1: to me, is like a really big part of how

1001
00:45:52,719 --> 00:45:54,080
Speaker 1: good this team could be this year.

1002
00:45:54,400 --> 00:45:57,279
Speaker 5: Yeah, and we also can't forget Mike Calando's role in

1003
00:45:57,280 --> 00:45:59,920
Speaker 5: this too, because this is the assembly of a put

1004
00:46:00,280 --> 00:46:03,200
Speaker 5: this offensive line. We saw how important it was to

1005
00:46:03,520 --> 00:46:05,319
Speaker 5: find some sort of stability there, which they didn't. They

1006
00:46:05,360 --> 00:46:07,279
Speaker 5: had to kick out Joe Tunia left tackle last year.

1007
00:46:07,640 --> 00:46:09,359
Speaker 5: So they're just throwing a lot of options out there

1008
00:46:09,360 --> 00:46:11,440
Speaker 5: and hoping that they find a starting five. And I

1009
00:46:11,440 --> 00:46:13,480
Speaker 5: think that this could take on a number of different

1010
00:46:13,520 --> 00:46:15,840
Speaker 5: appearances in terms of where a guy is playing or

1011
00:46:15,840 --> 00:46:19,040
Speaker 5: who's playing you know what position by week, who's starting

1012
00:46:19,040 --> 00:46:22,520
Speaker 5: who's not, which is not super encouraging for a team

1013
00:46:22,560 --> 00:46:23,640
Speaker 5: that's been to the Super Bowl.

1014
00:46:23,880 --> 00:46:26,480
Speaker 1: But they're talented, Like there's a lot of investment that

1015
00:46:26,600 --> 00:46:28,960
Speaker 1: least suck. It's like it's a first round pick who

1016
00:46:29,000 --> 00:46:31,040
Speaker 1: a lot of people thought was the most talented tackle in.

1017
00:46:31,040 --> 00:46:33,120
Speaker 3: The draft, it's not without effort.

1018
00:46:33,680 --> 00:46:36,239
Speaker 1: It's Jalen Moore, who they're paying fifteen million dollars a year,

1019
00:46:36,239 --> 00:46:39,839
Speaker 1: who's interesting. And Juwan Taylor, who's been overpaid the last

1020
00:46:39,840 --> 00:46:42,319
Speaker 1: few years, and if he makes the team this year,

1021
00:46:42,320 --> 00:46:45,319
Speaker 1: and I assume he will, I would guess this is

1022
00:46:45,320 --> 00:46:48,080
Speaker 1: his last year with the Chiefs. So it's just it's interesting.

1023
00:46:48,120 --> 00:46:53,160
Speaker 1: They they are making sure that Patrick Mahomes is protected,

1024
00:46:53,200 --> 00:46:57,080
Speaker 1: or at least making sure they're doing everything possible, spending

1025
00:46:57,080 --> 00:46:59,320
Speaker 1: a lot of most so supposedly they wanted Ronnie Stanley

1026
00:46:59,480 --> 00:47:01,920
Speaker 1: and the Ravens stepped up and kept him. All Right,

1027
00:47:02,280 --> 00:47:04,520
Speaker 1: we're gonna start going a little faster here, we're outside

1028
00:47:04,560 --> 00:47:07,480
Speaker 1: the top ten. Our next three. We've got the Dolphins

1029
00:47:07,520 --> 00:47:11,920
Speaker 1: cornerback situation. It's just wide open. Like the top candidates

1030
00:47:11,920 --> 00:47:17,960
Speaker 1: to be their cornerbacks are Storm Duck, Cam Smith, Ethan Bonner.

1031
00:47:18,040 --> 00:47:19,839
Speaker 1: Those are outside, so I think they're going to add

1032
00:47:19,840 --> 00:47:21,919
Speaker 1: someone at some point. We have Cater Kohu, but he's

1033
00:47:21,960 --> 00:47:24,279
Speaker 1: more of an inside nickel guy. So that's just like

1034
00:47:24,600 --> 00:47:28,120
Speaker 1: a little worrisome. If you're a Dolphins fan, I'm gonna

1035
00:47:28,120 --> 00:47:31,239
Speaker 1: be watching that. You got the Bill's second cornerback. They

1036
00:47:31,320 --> 00:47:34,480
Speaker 1: drafted a first round pick in Maxwell Harrison, but Tredevius

1037
00:47:34,480 --> 00:47:37,479
Speaker 1: White is back there. Dan Jackson is back on the team,

1038
00:47:37,520 --> 00:47:39,800
Speaker 1: so I'll be interested to see if Harriston really steps

1039
00:47:39,880 --> 00:47:42,480
Speaker 1: up as like a young draft pick they want him

1040
00:47:42,560 --> 00:47:43,000
Speaker 1: to start.

1041
00:47:43,040 --> 00:47:44,640
Speaker 2: And then we got your Browns quarterbacks.

1042
00:47:44,760 --> 00:47:47,080
Speaker 1: I couldn't put them any higher than this on the

1043
00:47:47,120 --> 00:47:50,239
Speaker 1: list just because it's just a little bit of like

1044
00:47:50,400 --> 00:47:52,719
Speaker 1: it's it's gonna be interesting to watch, but.

1045
00:47:54,360 --> 00:47:55,560
Speaker 2: For who for what you know?

1046
00:47:55,840 --> 00:47:58,799
Speaker 3: Ses to what end? Is just two things, two things here.

1047
00:47:59,200 --> 00:48:01,719
Speaker 5: The Dolphins defense as a whole is concerning to me,

1048
00:48:01,920 --> 00:48:04,560
Speaker 5: especially in a big year for them, And look no

1049
00:48:04,600 --> 00:48:07,560
Speaker 5: further than quarterback, as you mentioned, but the Browns quarterback

1050
00:48:07,600 --> 00:48:11,520
Speaker 5: situation comes down to a simple sentence. I tweeted, like

1051
00:48:11,560 --> 00:48:14,160
Speaker 5: a week ago, well, we posted a picture maybe it

1052
00:48:14,200 --> 00:48:16,120
Speaker 5: was two weeks ago of the four quarterbacks for the

1053
00:48:16,160 --> 00:48:19,160
Speaker 5: AFC North Browns training camp preview, and I just said,

1054
00:48:19,239 --> 00:48:21,200
Speaker 5: I'm sorry, but how do you not laugh at this picture?

1055
00:48:21,320 --> 00:48:25,200
Speaker 5: Because I mean, these are your options, Like, you got

1056
00:48:25,200 --> 00:48:27,359
Speaker 5: four of them. None of them are probably good enough

1057
00:48:27,360 --> 00:48:29,319
Speaker 5: to start for most teams, but they got to figure

1058
00:48:29,360 --> 00:48:31,640
Speaker 5: out and find one. So it's intriguing because if you

1059
00:48:31,719 --> 00:48:34,120
Speaker 5: like chaos and you know, like you said, popcorn movies,

1060
00:48:34,160 --> 00:48:36,080
Speaker 5: that sort of thing, you're gonna get that in Cleveland.

1061
00:48:36,080 --> 00:48:37,520
Speaker 3: But it's not super encouraging.

1062
00:48:37,880 --> 00:48:39,920
Speaker 1: I mean, let's go through them. How many of them

1063
00:48:39,920 --> 00:48:43,600
Speaker 1: would be backups on most teams. Flacco probably would be

1064
00:48:43,640 --> 00:48:47,640
Speaker 1: a backup on more than half the teams in the league.

1065
00:48:47,719 --> 00:48:50,120
Speaker 1: He's I think, a good backup. But he was freely

1066
00:48:50,160 --> 00:48:52,520
Speaker 1: available for not much money and no one wanted him,

1067
00:48:52,560 --> 00:48:55,600
Speaker 1: so that, for the most part, like that says something.

1068
00:48:55,800 --> 00:48:57,560
Speaker 1: I don't think Kenny Pickett would be a backup on

1069
00:48:57,600 --> 00:49:00,759
Speaker 1: most teams necessarily the Eagles dumped him, and then yet

1070
00:49:00,840 --> 00:49:03,759
Speaker 1: you have Dylan Gabriel and Shader Sanders, who are a

1071
00:49:03,840 --> 00:49:06,560
Speaker 1: third and a fifth round draft pick wouldn't normally be

1072
00:49:06,600 --> 00:49:09,799
Speaker 1: counted on to be a backup. So yeah, I just

1073
00:49:09,840 --> 00:49:12,440
Speaker 1: want to kind of catch everyone up if you haven't

1074
00:49:12,440 --> 00:49:15,879
Speaker 1: been listening to NFL daily and you're like plugging back

1075
00:49:15,920 --> 00:49:17,840
Speaker 1: in at the start of training camp, just kind of

1076
00:49:17,840 --> 00:49:20,960
Speaker 1: where everything is. And so we're going over all these

1077
00:49:21,000 --> 00:49:23,520
Speaker 1: position battles. But man, I grouped a lot of these

1078
00:49:23,520 --> 00:49:27,640
Speaker 1: wide receivers together. So I'm just gonna mention a bunch

1079
00:49:27,680 --> 00:49:29,960
Speaker 1: of the teams, and the difference at wide receiver is

1080
00:49:30,040 --> 00:49:34,480
Speaker 1: like it's kind of figuring out what the order is

1081
00:49:34,520 --> 00:49:36,879
Speaker 1: going to be. But for the most part, a lot

1082
00:49:36,880 --> 00:49:38,400
Speaker 1: of these guys are making the team. But all right,

1083
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Speaker 1: let's go through the Jets wide receivers. After Garrett Wilson,

1084
00:49:41,920 --> 00:49:46,240
Speaker 1: it's wide open. It's like Josh Reynolds, Malachi Corley, Tyler Johnson.

1085
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Speaker 2: It's not a bunch of good names.

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00:49:47,520 --> 00:49:51,280
Speaker 1: The Panthers wide receivers in general, you figure Adam Thielen

1087
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Speaker 1: has a role, shook, Xavier Laguette probably has a role.

1088
00:49:55,880 --> 00:49:59,000
Speaker 1: Teed McMillan was there, you know, top ten pick, you

1089
00:49:59,040 --> 00:50:02,480
Speaker 1: have Jalen Coker, Hunter, renfro that could go anywhere like

1090
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Speaker 1: one to five. I'm not sure what the order is

1091
00:50:05,239 --> 00:50:07,760
Speaker 1: going to be. The Patriots wide receivers. I already mentioned

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00:50:08,040 --> 00:50:11,920
Speaker 1: Stefan Diggs, He's obviously going to play if he's healthy.

1093
00:50:12,160 --> 00:50:13,880
Speaker 1: To Mario Douglas, I think is going to have a

1094
00:50:13,960 --> 00:50:16,160
Speaker 1: role for them if he's healthy. And then you have

1095
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Speaker 1: like Mac Collins. You have my guy, the third round pick,

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Speaker 1: Kyle Williams. You have Jalen Polk, who was a high

1097
00:50:22,400 --> 00:50:24,640
Speaker 1: second round pick a year ago, was a disaster, but

1098
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Speaker 1: you can't totally give up on him. Supposedly he's looked

1099
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Speaker 1: good when he actually practiced. It was the games that

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Speaker 1: you threw him up. You have Kendrick Bourne, who was

1101
00:50:31,920 --> 00:50:36,319
Speaker 1: always like You have this guy Efton Chisholm Shook, who

1102
00:50:36,320 --> 00:50:39,399
Speaker 1: supposedly is like the next Standium Mondola has been lighting

1103
00:50:39,480 --> 00:50:42,400
Speaker 1: up practice. You have Keisha on Booty, like what is

1104
00:50:42,440 --> 00:50:45,160
Speaker 1: going on? Like, it's just these teams where you can

1105
00:50:45,239 --> 00:50:47,439
Speaker 1: just shake it all up and try to figure out,

1106
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Speaker 1: like what stands.

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Speaker 2: Out to you out of those three.

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Speaker 5: It's a snow globe, and it's not because they play

1109
00:50:51,200 --> 00:50:52,800
Speaker 5: in New England. It's an actual snow globe. You just

1110
00:50:52,800 --> 00:50:54,440
Speaker 5: shake it up and figure out where it lands. I

1111
00:50:54,480 --> 00:50:57,520
Speaker 5: actually like Carolina's top three if if yeah, Feeland can

1112
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Speaker 5: be the guy that he was last year. He was

1113
00:50:58,960 --> 00:51:00,440
Speaker 5: a pretty big part of that offense, and I like

1114
00:51:00,440 --> 00:51:03,440
Speaker 5: I so like we get ted McMillan. We'll see, like

1115
00:51:04,200 --> 00:51:06,800
Speaker 5: it was very mixed results on you know, depending on

1116
00:51:06,840 --> 00:51:09,200
Speaker 5: who you talk to for his evaluation. But he's you know,

1117
00:51:09,239 --> 00:51:11,440
Speaker 5: a bigger target, so that's good for them. But the Patriots, Yeah,

1118
00:51:11,480 --> 00:51:14,480
Speaker 5: it's just complete battle Royale, like just drop them in

1119
00:51:14,800 --> 00:51:17,319
Speaker 5: and figure out who wins these jobs. And frankly, for

1120
00:51:17,400 --> 00:51:20,240
Speaker 5: a team that was terrible last year, I like that idea.

1121
00:51:20,280 --> 00:51:22,319
Speaker 5: I like that approach, Like is Kai Shan Boody gonna

1122
00:51:22,320 --> 00:51:24,520
Speaker 5: beat out Jalen Polk? Who knows is.

1123
00:51:25,719 --> 00:51:28,040
Speaker 2: To make the team? I just listed like nine names,

1124
00:51:28,280 --> 00:51:30,120
Speaker 2: like yeah, and I didn't even there were there are

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00:51:30,120 --> 00:51:30,680
Speaker 2: a couple more.

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Speaker 1: It's crazy. It's essentially and I considered Digs more of

1127
00:51:34,400 --> 00:51:37,000
Speaker 1: like a two slash three at this stage of his career.

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00:51:37,440 --> 00:51:40,359
Speaker 1: It's more like they have eight, you know, guys who

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00:51:40,400 --> 00:51:45,200
Speaker 1: could be two. Would you rather though? Would you rather

1130
00:51:45,239 --> 00:51:48,680
Speaker 1: have their group or the Jets group who has Garrett Wilson,

1131
00:51:49,440 --> 00:51:53,480
Speaker 1: But then after that it's Josh Reynolds, Tyler Johnson, Malachi Coraley.

1132
00:51:53,760 --> 00:51:57,080
Speaker 1: And in theory you're thinking, okay, well they'll use two

1133
00:51:57,120 --> 00:51:59,640
Speaker 1: tight end sets and they'll have you know, you'll use

1134
00:51:59,680 --> 00:52:02,279
Speaker 1: their end. But their tight ends aren't really good receivers either,

1135
00:52:02,360 --> 00:52:04,080
Speaker 1: Like man, it falls off a club. Would you rather

1136
00:52:04,120 --> 00:52:06,400
Speaker 1: have the Patriots wide receivers or the Jets?

1137
00:52:06,640 --> 00:52:10,239
Speaker 3: Can I pick the Panthers out of both of those groups?

1138
00:52:10,360 --> 00:52:12,919
Speaker 1: The correct answer, by the way, is the Jets because

1139
00:52:12,920 --> 00:52:17,480
Speaker 1: they have Garrett Wilson. You have one great young receiver

1140
00:52:17,719 --> 00:52:20,800
Speaker 1: that's still worth more, I think than all the Patriots combined.

1141
00:52:20,800 --> 00:52:23,440
Speaker 1: But either way it's not great all right, More wide

1142
00:52:23,440 --> 00:52:27,880
Speaker 1: receivers Titans, Steelers, and Broncos. So the receivers for the

1143
00:52:27,880 --> 00:52:31,120
Speaker 1: Titans after Calvin Ridley, it gets really thin in theory.

1144
00:52:31,200 --> 00:52:35,759
Speaker 1: Tyler Lockett is their number two, but man like Van

1145
00:52:35,880 --> 00:52:39,920
Speaker 1: Jefferson is there. They drafted a couple guys a human

1146
00:52:40,000 --> 00:52:43,280
Speaker 1: Ore and Chameri DK are two mid round draft picks,

1147
00:52:43,280 --> 00:52:45,080
Speaker 1: like who steps up. Trail On Burks is still on

1148
00:52:45,120 --> 00:52:48,040
Speaker 1: this roster but always hurt. Xavier Rostrepo is like a

1149
00:52:48,719 --> 00:52:52,560
Speaker 1: well known undrafted guy. But that's wide open really after

1150
00:52:52,640 --> 00:52:57,440
Speaker 1: Calvin Ridley, similar to the Steelers, rather after DK Metcalf

1151
00:52:57,520 --> 00:53:00,319
Speaker 1: you have Calvin Austin, you have Roman Wilson, you have

1152
00:53:00,719 --> 00:53:03,800
Speaker 1: Ben Scronick, you have Robert Woods, you have Scotty Miller,

1153
00:53:03,840 --> 00:53:05,880
Speaker 1: and then the Broncos. I think this is a better group.

1154
00:53:06,840 --> 00:53:10,680
Speaker 1: But after Courtland Sutton it is pretty open. And it's

1155
00:53:10,719 --> 00:53:14,520
Speaker 1: Marvin Mims Vley who did pretty well for them as

1156
00:53:14,520 --> 00:53:17,520
Speaker 1: a rookie last year, Pat Bryant, who they drafted earlier

1157
00:53:17,600 --> 00:53:21,560
Speaker 1: than expected, and Troy Franklin. So like, out of those

1158
00:53:21,840 --> 00:53:25,520
Speaker 1: three groups, anything just stand out to you as the

1159
00:53:25,560 --> 00:53:29,399
Speaker 1: most interesting of those groups. But another group where two

1160
00:53:29,440 --> 00:53:34,880
Speaker 1: through five is kind of open tape dogs, the draft knicks.

1161
00:53:34,920 --> 00:53:38,000
Speaker 5: The college guys really like jimiy DK's tape, so keep

1162
00:53:38,000 --> 00:53:38,719
Speaker 5: an eye on him.

1163
00:53:38,920 --> 00:53:41,400
Speaker 2: Fourth round pick. They need someone to step up, don't they.

1164
00:53:41,440 --> 00:53:42,439
Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, they do.

1165
00:53:42,440 --> 00:53:45,080
Speaker 2: But Alvin Ridley as you're like locked in number one,

1166
00:53:45,320 --> 00:53:47,560
Speaker 2: and Brooks has been his way out. Like Burks, he

1167
00:53:47,760 --> 00:53:49,759
Speaker 2: hasn't done anything. He never justified that take. He's on

1168
00:53:49,760 --> 00:53:51,080
Speaker 2: his way out. So I don't really like the rest

1169
00:53:51,080 --> 00:53:51,879
Speaker 2: of that group at all.

1170
00:53:52,200 --> 00:53:55,360
Speaker 5: The Steelers, I thought Roman Wilson was going to be

1171
00:53:55,400 --> 00:53:57,920
Speaker 5: a pretty important playmaker for them, and then he had

1172
00:53:57,920 --> 00:53:59,719
Speaker 5: an ankle injury and never got going last year, so

1173
00:54:00,080 --> 00:54:00,719
Speaker 5: keep an eye on him.

1174
00:54:00,760 --> 00:54:02,120
Speaker 3: I still like him as well.

1175
00:54:02,400 --> 00:54:04,440
Speaker 5: And the Broncos I think probably the best of the three,

1176
00:54:05,280 --> 00:54:07,200
Speaker 5: just because I at least saw some production from that

1177
00:54:07,239 --> 00:54:08,120
Speaker 5: group last year.

1178
00:54:08,160 --> 00:54:10,319
Speaker 3: But yeah, if I had.

1179
00:54:10,239 --> 00:54:12,799
Speaker 5: To take, I mean, the Steelers have DK Metcalf now,

1180
00:54:13,080 --> 00:54:15,480
Speaker 5: but DK Metcalf became just a go merchant in his

1181
00:54:15,640 --> 00:54:18,080
Speaker 5: last year and a half in Seattle. So God, none

1182
00:54:18,080 --> 00:54:21,160
Speaker 5: of these are really great I don't think they're.

1183
00:54:21,040 --> 00:54:24,319
Speaker 1: Terrible, but it's more like getting our listeners ready for

1184
00:54:24,400 --> 00:54:26,360
Speaker 1: like a watch list. This is your watch list for

1185
00:54:26,840 --> 00:54:28,520
Speaker 1: August that I think is going to be interesting. The

1186
00:54:28,560 --> 00:54:31,440
Speaker 1: big advantage the Broncos have is they have Sean Payton

1187
00:54:32,000 --> 00:54:35,600
Speaker 1: and he makes wide receivers look better. And they have

1188
00:54:35,680 --> 00:54:38,759
Speaker 1: a solid young quarterback in bon Nicks. Whereas the Steelers

1189
00:54:39,440 --> 00:54:41,560
Speaker 1: we'll see, we'll see what Aaron Rodgers brings to the table.

1190
00:54:41,560 --> 00:54:45,080
Speaker 1: Wrapping up the top twenty, here shook is the Broncos

1191
00:54:45,200 --> 00:54:47,720
Speaker 1: running back situation, and it's JK.

1192
00:54:47,840 --> 00:54:50,120
Speaker 2: Dobbins, RJ. Harvey and Odrich Estimate.

1193
00:54:50,160 --> 00:54:51,719
Speaker 1: I gave a little bump on this list to like

1194
00:54:51,760 --> 00:54:54,960
Speaker 1: teams that are good because to me, this battle actually

1195
00:54:55,080 --> 00:54:57,680
Speaker 1: is going to impact a team that has a real

1196
00:54:57,760 --> 00:54:58,920
Speaker 1: chance to make the playoffs.

1197
00:54:58,960 --> 00:54:59,200
Speaker 2: Again.

1198
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Speaker 5: Yeah, I like the fact that they committed to Estimate,

1199
00:55:02,520 --> 00:55:04,040
Speaker 5: who's like an old school power back and they used

1200
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Speaker 5: him in short yarded situations last year.

1201
00:55:06,280 --> 00:55:08,400
Speaker 3: Dobbins always comes with the question mark.

1202
00:55:08,280 --> 00:55:10,719
Speaker 5: Of health, just because he's struggled with injuries so many

1203
00:55:10,760 --> 00:55:13,160
Speaker 5: times over the last few years. R J. Harvey is

1204
00:55:13,360 --> 00:55:15,120
Speaker 5: unless you watch the uc at football, you might not

1205
00:55:15,160 --> 00:55:17,120
Speaker 5: know who he is. But he's the most intriguing of

1206
00:55:17,160 --> 00:55:20,120
Speaker 5: the group. But I like this committee approach with a

1207
00:55:20,160 --> 00:55:22,600
Speaker 5: blend of different styles that I think will balance well

1208
00:55:22,640 --> 00:55:24,200
Speaker 5: with how they like to run their offense, which of

1209
00:55:24,200 --> 00:55:26,399
Speaker 5: course is getting nicked out on the perimeter. I think

1210
00:55:26,400 --> 00:55:28,160
Speaker 5: they'll have some opportunities to find some runn lanes.

1211
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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a great candidate to have, like great fantasy

1212
00:55:32,560 --> 00:55:34,600
Speaker 1: value compared to where he's going to get drafted. We

1213
00:55:34,600 --> 00:55:38,239
Speaker 1: will do some fantasy in the coming weeks as we

1214
00:55:38,280 --> 00:55:41,080
Speaker 1: get ready for the season. That's the top twenty so

1215
00:55:41,400 --> 00:55:44,400
Speaker 1: and I already mentioned the Bengals guards, so technically that's

1216
00:55:44,480 --> 00:55:46,560
Speaker 1: twenty one. I think that's a good spot. We're going

1217
00:55:46,600 --> 00:55:48,800
Speaker 1: to take a quick break and then we are getting

1218
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Speaker 1: through the fifty nine.

1219
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Speaker 2: It's two days. It's happening, Chuck.

1220
00:55:52,640 --> 00:55:54,200
Speaker 3: I feel like I'm in conditioning right now.

1221
00:56:10,640 --> 00:56:15,640
Speaker 1: My goal, Shook is not only to entertain a little bit,

1222
00:56:15,800 --> 00:56:20,640
Speaker 1: but also informed. And I want our NFL Daily listeners

1223
00:56:20,680 --> 00:56:22,680
Speaker 1: to be the most informed.

1224
00:56:23,600 --> 00:56:26,560
Speaker 2: Of all their friend groups, of their entire town.

1225
00:56:27,600 --> 00:56:30,000
Speaker 1: You know, of anyone they know, and so that's why

1226
00:56:30,000 --> 00:56:32,560
Speaker 1: they need to know the top fifty nine position battles.

1227
00:56:32,560 --> 00:56:33,160
Speaker 2: I'm a sicko and.

1228
00:56:33,160 --> 00:56:35,840
Speaker 1: It's why we're gonna hit the news every day throughout

1229
00:56:35,880 --> 00:56:37,839
Speaker 1: training camp and keep you up to date. It's one

1230
00:56:37,840 --> 00:56:39,400
Speaker 1: of the times of the year. I love the daily

1231
00:56:39,600 --> 00:56:41,879
Speaker 1: format because there's just these little things that if you're

1232
00:56:41,920 --> 00:56:44,560
Speaker 1: a sicko, like you have to be to be an

1233
00:56:44,600 --> 00:56:47,319
Speaker 1: hour into the position battles, then you want to know

1234
00:56:47,360 --> 00:56:49,400
Speaker 1: all the information. So let's keep it going. We did

1235
00:56:49,440 --> 00:56:53,719
Speaker 1: twenty one position battles so far. Our next group, the

1236
00:56:53,800 --> 00:56:58,040
Speaker 1: Eagles in the secondary, their safeties pretty wide open. They

1237
00:56:58,080 --> 00:57:02,000
Speaker 1: have a rookie Andrew mccouba. They have Sidney Brown. It's

1238
00:57:02,040 --> 00:57:03,839
Speaker 1: more interesting to me because it's also like where does

1239
00:57:03,880 --> 00:57:06,239
Speaker 1: Cooper dejing go. You assume he's staying at nickel, but

1240
00:57:06,280 --> 00:57:10,399
Speaker 1: if the safety doesn't go well, like could they be rotatium.

1241
00:57:10,520 --> 00:57:14,040
Speaker 1: They also have their other cornerback spot open. It's probably

1242
00:57:14,160 --> 00:57:16,840
Speaker 1: Keey Ringo, but they have a Dori Jackson there. So

1243
00:57:16,960 --> 00:57:19,160
Speaker 1: just their secondary. Because they're such a good team, to me,

1244
00:57:19,360 --> 00:57:21,160
Speaker 1: they get a little higher on the list. Just keep

1245
00:57:21,160 --> 00:57:23,360
Speaker 1: an eye on that. The Cardinals edge group I thought

1246
00:57:23,400 --> 00:57:27,400
Speaker 1: was interesting because they're potentially really good players. But boom

1247
00:57:27,480 --> 00:57:30,720
Speaker 1: or Bus bj Ojalari was a really promising rookie two

1248
00:57:30,760 --> 00:57:33,320
Speaker 1: years ago before he tore his ACL last year. Baron

1249
00:57:33,360 --> 00:57:36,360
Speaker 1: Browning came there in a trade and then re sign

1250
00:57:36,480 --> 00:57:39,440
Speaker 1: on a pretty nice free agent contract. And then Zavin Collins,

1251
00:57:39,760 --> 00:57:41,960
Speaker 1: who's kind of found a home as an edge rusher,

1252
00:57:42,120 --> 00:57:42,960
Speaker 1: was a first round pick.

1253
00:57:43,000 --> 00:57:43,800
Speaker 2: Some interesting names.

1254
00:57:43,800 --> 00:57:48,120
Speaker 1: They're battling for their second spot opposite Josh Sweat. The

1255
00:57:48,280 --> 00:57:51,200
Speaker 1: Jaguars cornerbacks are interesting just because Travis Hunter is part

1256
00:57:51,200 --> 00:57:53,000
Speaker 1: of it. So how much is Davis hunder actually going

1257
00:57:53,080 --> 00:57:55,320
Speaker 1: to play at cornerback? We know he's playing at wide receiver,

1258
00:57:55,720 --> 00:57:58,600
Speaker 1: Jerry and Jones, Buster Brown is there, you assume Hunter

1259
00:57:58,720 --> 00:58:01,520
Speaker 1: is going to be on the outside. Just everything Travis

1260
00:58:01,560 --> 00:58:06,280
Speaker 1: Hunter is fascinating to me. We mentioned the Chargers receivers before,

1261
00:58:06,360 --> 00:58:09,320
Speaker 1: but you know, I'm assuming Quentin Johnston is kind of

1262
00:58:09,360 --> 00:58:10,920
Speaker 1: locked in there at the ex So then you have

1263
00:58:11,000 --> 00:58:14,120
Speaker 1: Trey Harris the rookie, You have KeAndre Lambert Smith, you

1264
00:58:14,120 --> 00:58:17,720
Speaker 1: have Darius Davis. They're all battling for snaps. And then

1265
00:58:17,800 --> 00:58:20,520
Speaker 1: let's finish this little pack at number twenty six. The

1266
00:58:20,600 --> 00:58:23,760
Speaker 1: running back position of the Patriots for Andre Stevenson, your

1267
00:58:23,800 --> 00:58:27,320
Speaker 1: guy Trevion Henderson from Ohio State, and Antonio Gibson's still there.

1268
00:58:27,360 --> 00:58:29,320
Speaker 1: They're all gonna play, but it's kind of figuring out

1269
00:58:29,360 --> 00:58:32,360
Speaker 1: which snaps like out of that group, what stands out

1270
00:58:32,400 --> 00:58:32,600
Speaker 1: to you.

1271
00:58:33,000 --> 00:58:35,040
Speaker 5: I mean, I love that the running back room in

1272
00:58:35,080 --> 00:58:37,280
Speaker 5: New England. Yeah, I know that you gave money to

1273
00:58:37,320 --> 00:58:39,000
Speaker 5: Remandre and you kind of need him to produce, but

1274
00:58:39,040 --> 00:58:41,120
Speaker 5: I love the depth there, and again a difference in

1275
00:58:41,160 --> 00:58:43,920
Speaker 5: styles a little bit too. I thought Gibson's time in

1276
00:58:44,000 --> 00:58:46,880
Speaker 5: Washington was cut too short, is premature, and I'm glad

1277
00:58:46,920 --> 00:58:49,000
Speaker 5: that he's got a home there, even if he's gonna

1278
00:58:49,000 --> 00:58:51,920
Speaker 5: be fighting for snaps. Yeah, as much time as we

1279
00:58:51,960 --> 00:58:53,720
Speaker 5: spend on the receivers and how it's a battle Royale,

1280
00:58:53,760 --> 00:58:56,040
Speaker 5: I think this is a very solid top three at

1281
00:58:56,040 --> 00:58:56,560
Speaker 5: that position.

1282
00:58:56,640 --> 00:58:58,280
Speaker 3: So I very much love that.

1283
00:58:58,120 --> 00:59:01,680
Speaker 5: The Eagles secondary is an interesting examination of what happens

1284
00:59:01,680 --> 00:59:03,760
Speaker 5: in you draft well and you're so deep that some

1285
00:59:03,800 --> 00:59:05,880
Speaker 5: of the guys that you would expect to make plays

1286
00:59:06,240 --> 00:59:08,640
Speaker 5: earlier for other teams just don't see the field very much.

1287
00:59:08,720 --> 00:59:10,360
Speaker 5: And then you get like three years down the line,

1288
00:59:10,400 --> 00:59:12,160
Speaker 5: you're like, oh God, now we need those guys to play,

1289
00:59:12,160 --> 00:59:13,680
Speaker 5: and we still don't know if they're any good or not.

1290
00:59:13,840 --> 00:59:14,600
Speaker 5: Sidney Brown is.

1291
00:59:14,600 --> 00:59:17,080
Speaker 3: One of those guys, so I'm excited to see how

1292
00:59:17,080 --> 00:59:17,960
Speaker 3: that kind of shakes out.

1293
00:59:18,280 --> 00:59:20,720
Speaker 1: And kie Ringo too, not that you would have expected him.

1294
00:59:21,000 --> 00:59:23,680
Speaker 1: He's a talented cornerback who is I think a fourth

1295
00:59:23,720 --> 00:59:28,280
Speaker 1: round pick maybe third but guy from Georgia that now

1296
00:59:28,400 --> 00:59:31,000
Speaker 1: it's their development. But man, is that a young secondary

1297
00:59:31,040 --> 00:59:33,320
Speaker 1: when you think about it, because you had the two

1298
00:59:33,360 --> 00:59:35,760
Speaker 1: rookies last year getting the Rookies of the Year vote

1299
00:59:36,200 --> 00:59:39,040
Speaker 1: in quinnyon Mitchell and Cooper dejen who to me, Dejeene's

1300
00:59:39,040 --> 00:59:41,720
Speaker 1: already among the best at his position, in Mitchell might

1301
00:59:41,760 --> 00:59:43,240
Speaker 1: not be that far behind.

1302
00:59:43,520 --> 00:59:45,560
Speaker 2: Like what a young, exciting group.

1303
00:59:45,600 --> 00:59:49,520
Speaker 1: But I like the Eagles kind of combination of change

1304
00:59:49,920 --> 00:59:51,720
Speaker 1: because they do have some change on the defense, but

1305
00:59:51,760 --> 00:59:54,920
Speaker 1: also continuity, especially on the offensive side. All Right, our

1306
00:59:54,960 --> 00:59:57,000
Speaker 1: next group, I had to throw a kicker battle in

1307
00:59:58,480 --> 01:00:01,000
Speaker 1: Justin Tucker has been suspended by the league. We didn't

1308
01:00:01,000 --> 01:00:03,080
Speaker 1: mention that on the show. That happened during our break,

1309
01:00:03,360 --> 01:00:05,640
Speaker 1: but we already knew that he was cut. And so

1310
01:00:05,680 --> 01:00:09,160
Speaker 1: when you're replacing possibly the greatest kicker of all time,

1311
01:00:10,040 --> 01:00:13,520
Speaker 1: I would say he is Justin Tucker. Vinitari obviously hit

1312
01:00:13,600 --> 01:00:16,760
Speaker 1: more big kicks, but if Tucker was in the position

1313
01:00:16,800 --> 01:00:18,200
Speaker 1: to do that I think he would have as well.

1314
01:00:19,640 --> 01:00:21,440
Speaker 1: When you're replacing him and you're on a team that

1315
01:00:21,440 --> 01:00:24,120
Speaker 1: could make the Super Bowl. Tyler Loop, their draft pick

1316
01:00:24,160 --> 01:00:25,960
Speaker 1: will be the heavy favorite over John Hoylan.

1317
01:00:26,040 --> 01:00:27,640
Speaker 2: But you never know. It's a rookie. What if he

1318
01:00:27,760 --> 01:00:29,320
Speaker 2: just thinks Tyler Loop.

1319
01:00:29,440 --> 01:00:31,960
Speaker 1: You have the Chiefs running back Isaiah Pacheco getting some

1320
01:00:32,000 --> 01:00:35,720
Speaker 1: pop cream. Hunt is still there. Elijah Mitchell is on

1321
01:00:35,760 --> 01:00:38,160
Speaker 1: this team from the forty nine ers. Brashard Smith is

1322
01:00:38,200 --> 01:00:40,560
Speaker 1: a late round pick. I mean, Pacheco is a late

1323
01:00:40,640 --> 01:00:42,880
Speaker 1: round pick. So I'm not going to rule anything out.

1324
01:00:42,920 --> 01:00:45,320
Speaker 1: That's interesting to me because it is the Chiefs and

1325
01:00:45,480 --> 01:00:48,880
Speaker 1: it's wide open. You have the Raiders wide receivers after

1326
01:00:49,400 --> 01:00:52,520
Speaker 1: Jacoby Myers, you got Trey Tucker, you got Jack Besh

1327
01:00:52,560 --> 01:00:55,200
Speaker 1: the second round pick. You have another rookie, Dante Thornton.

1328
01:00:55,320 --> 01:00:58,440
Speaker 1: Like this is a team that kind of screams to

1329
01:00:58,480 --> 01:01:00,800
Speaker 1: sign a veteran. I mean, I don't know what Keenan

1330
01:01:00,800 --> 01:01:03,240
Speaker 1: Allen's going to bring at this point, but there is

1331
01:01:03,280 --> 01:01:05,240
Speaker 1: a Tom Telesco connection there.

1332
01:01:05,240 --> 01:01:06,520
Speaker 2: Maybe he ends up there.

1333
01:01:06,680 --> 01:01:09,760
Speaker 1: The Falcons edge spot to me was interesting, shook because

1334
01:01:10,640 --> 01:01:13,280
Speaker 1: they have two young draft picks that they took. You

1335
01:01:13,320 --> 01:01:15,680
Speaker 1: know very high and James Pearce and Jalen Walker who

1336
01:01:15,720 --> 01:01:18,520
Speaker 1: are battling for a time, but also some veterans Leonard

1337
01:01:18,520 --> 01:01:21,560
Speaker 1: Floyd who's been around forever and Arnold Ebacehetty. So how

1338
01:01:21,600 --> 01:01:24,360
Speaker 1: much time will the rookies get that and get there?

1339
01:01:24,440 --> 01:01:27,920
Speaker 1: And then similar type of vibe in Washington at cornerback,

1340
01:01:28,240 --> 01:01:31,760
Speaker 1: Trey Amos is competing to start there, but you have

1341
01:01:31,800 --> 01:01:35,400
Speaker 1: Jonathan Jones, the former Patriots cornerback.

1342
01:01:34,920 --> 01:01:35,400
Speaker 2: A veteran.

1343
01:01:35,440 --> 01:01:39,080
Speaker 1: You have Noah Igbinoghany, is there, Ken Marshawn Lattimore ever

1344
01:01:39,200 --> 01:01:42,040
Speaker 1: stay healthy? You know, I assume he's starting, but it's

1345
01:01:42,120 --> 01:01:44,080
Speaker 1: he ever on the field. So that that's one of

1346
01:01:44,080 --> 01:01:47,320
Speaker 1: the kind of like up in the air spots for Washington.

1347
01:01:47,400 --> 01:01:49,320
Speaker 2: What stands out to you from that big pack?

1348
01:01:49,600 --> 01:01:51,320
Speaker 5: Yeah, can he play well when he takes the field

1349
01:01:51,360 --> 01:01:54,360
Speaker 5: on like the postseason last year? Yes, I gotta go

1350
01:01:54,360 --> 01:01:56,280
Speaker 5: to two places here and one of the Raiders receivers,

1351
01:01:56,320 --> 01:01:59,760
Speaker 5: because you are among them who love the Raiders just

1352
01:01:59,800 --> 01:02:02,120
Speaker 5: be Geno's there and they feel like they're headed in

1353
01:02:02,120 --> 01:02:04,120
Speaker 5: the right direction with Pete Carroll. But this is the

1354
01:02:04,120 --> 01:02:05,880
Speaker 5: position group that worries me the most. I know they've

1355
01:02:05,880 --> 01:02:07,720
Speaker 5: made additions there, But it's one that I'm going to

1356
01:02:07,720 --> 01:02:09,000
Speaker 5: continue to keep my eye on, and it might be

1357
01:02:09,040 --> 01:02:10,800
Speaker 5: a candidate for them to pick up some of these

1358
01:02:10,800 --> 01:02:12,440
Speaker 5: other guys to get cut elsewhere. When we have these

1359
01:02:12,440 --> 01:02:15,080
Speaker 5: massive receiver battles with other teams, you might see the

1360
01:02:15,160 --> 01:02:17,200
Speaker 5: Raiders front of the line trying to add some of

1361
01:02:17,200 --> 01:02:18,760
Speaker 5: those guys. So keep an eye just to see how

1362
01:02:18,760 --> 01:02:20,960
Speaker 5: that shakes out. It's that, and it's the Falcons edge

1363
01:02:21,000 --> 01:02:24,200
Speaker 5: group because they were They drafted two edge rushers in

1364
01:02:24,240 --> 01:02:27,400
Speaker 5: the first round, and they did it so confidently that

1365
01:02:27,480 --> 01:02:29,800
Speaker 5: I have to see it come to fruition. I need

1366
01:02:29,840 --> 01:02:32,800
Speaker 5: to see this follow through. And James Pierce being one

1367
01:02:32,840 --> 01:02:34,600
Speaker 5: of them, and you said Jaylen Walker being the other,

1368
01:02:34,640 --> 01:02:37,520
Speaker 5: and Pierce had some questions coming out of Tennessee. So

1369
01:02:37,880 --> 01:02:39,520
Speaker 5: got to keep a close eye on that because they

1370
01:02:39,560 --> 01:02:42,200
Speaker 5: are deeper there than they were in previous years, which

1371
01:02:42,240 --> 01:02:44,280
Speaker 5: is big because that was a huge weakness for them

1372
01:02:44,360 --> 01:02:44,760
Speaker 5: last year.

1373
01:02:44,800 --> 01:02:45,920
Speaker 3: But a lot of it is unknown.

1374
01:02:46,640 --> 01:02:49,400
Speaker 1: We are rolling to fifty nine position battles and as

1375
01:02:49,400 --> 01:02:50,920
Speaker 1: I look at the end, I probably could have cut

1376
01:02:50,960 --> 01:02:54,560
Speaker 1: out like a couple of them, but you know, they

1377
01:02:54,560 --> 01:02:56,680
Speaker 1: say leave them, you know, wanding more.

1378
01:02:56,880 --> 01:02:58,280
Speaker 2: Maybe we'll leave you wanding less.

1379
01:02:59,040 --> 01:03:01,560
Speaker 1: Number thirty two on this list is the what is

1380
01:03:01,560 --> 01:03:07,280
Speaker 1: the Lions interior offensive line group? So you know now

1381
01:03:07,280 --> 01:03:10,440
Speaker 1: that you've had the retirement of Frank ragnow there already

1382
01:03:10,560 --> 01:03:13,120
Speaker 1: was going to be some change there. Can Tate Ratledge

1383
01:03:13,240 --> 01:03:16,280
Speaker 1: start at center for them? Could he move over to guard?

1384
01:03:16,720 --> 01:03:19,600
Speaker 1: You've got Graham Glasgau there. You've got some players who've

1385
01:03:19,600 --> 01:03:21,680
Speaker 1: been there like that's an important spot for that team.

1386
01:03:21,880 --> 01:03:22,960
Speaker 2: The forty nine ers.

1387
01:03:22,880 --> 01:03:27,120
Speaker 1: Edge group has a top twelve pick and mikel Williams

1388
01:03:27,200 --> 01:03:29,880
Speaker 1: against a guy they traded for Bryce Huff who's probably

1389
01:03:29,920 --> 01:03:32,240
Speaker 1: going to be more of a situational passwatcher. You have

1390
01:03:32,280 --> 01:03:35,280
Speaker 1: a veteran there, you Turre gross Matos, so that's opposite

1391
01:03:35,360 --> 01:03:37,560
Speaker 1: Nick Bosa. That's a big spot that used to be

1392
01:03:37,680 --> 01:03:41,480
Speaker 1: known for their defensive line, their edge group. Now it's

1393
01:03:41,520 --> 01:03:43,120
Speaker 1: a little more of a question mark. But I think

1394
01:03:43,120 --> 01:03:44,720
Speaker 1: it looks better than it did a year ago. That's

1395
01:03:44,720 --> 01:03:48,040
Speaker 1: an interesting battle. I threw the Lions backup quarterback situation

1396
01:03:48,120 --> 01:03:50,720
Speaker 1: in just because it's the Lions. That's Hendon Hooker. Is

1397
01:03:50,720 --> 01:03:53,400
Speaker 1: he ever gonna become a guy? He's against Kyle Allen.

1398
01:03:53,720 --> 01:03:56,200
Speaker 1: You have the Raiders cornerback we just talked about, you know,

1399
01:03:56,280 --> 01:03:59,840
Speaker 1: wide receiver man cornerback is thin for them there? Who

1400
01:03:59,880 --> 01:04:06,320
Speaker 1: is their cornerback? One to Cameron Richardson Jacorey and Bennett

1401
01:04:06,480 --> 01:04:10,600
Speaker 1: Eric Stots, Darnay like Darning Holmes, like Darien Porter, like

1402
01:04:11,280 --> 01:04:14,200
Speaker 1: who knows who knows? One, two, three? It's wide open.

1403
01:04:14,240 --> 01:04:16,880
Speaker 1: They're a candidate to pick up a veteran. But I'll

1404
01:04:16,880 --> 01:04:19,280
Speaker 1: just be curious to see how that shakes out. You

1405
01:04:19,320 --> 01:04:22,080
Speaker 1: got your Browns running backs here. You will see if

1406
01:04:22,120 --> 01:04:24,360
Speaker 1: quinch On Jenkins is a part of the team. I

1407
01:04:24,360 --> 01:04:26,400
Speaker 1: don't think he will be necessarily early in the season.

1408
01:04:26,400 --> 01:04:30,400
Speaker 1: So that leaves Jerome Ford and Dylan Sampson, who's an

1409
01:04:30,440 --> 01:04:34,680
Speaker 1: interesting prospect, and then the Packers wide receivers will stop there.

1410
01:04:34,720 --> 01:04:36,160
Speaker 1: I think you have to wait for the games to

1411
01:04:36,160 --> 01:04:39,680
Speaker 1: see how the Patrick Packers wide receivers really shake out.

1412
01:04:39,720 --> 01:04:43,600
Speaker 1: Like we know Romeo Dobbs is like a good player.

1413
01:04:43,640 --> 01:04:45,760
Speaker 1: We'll see. I guess you could follow Matthew Golden. It's

1414
01:04:45,800 --> 01:04:48,960
Speaker 1: their first round pick, like how his development is in camp?

1415
01:04:49,160 --> 01:04:51,600
Speaker 1: Do they give a role to save On Williams a

1416
01:04:51,640 --> 01:04:54,320
Speaker 1: third round pick? But we kind of know those Packers receivers.

1417
01:04:54,400 --> 01:04:56,600
Speaker 1: Christian Watson not going to be ready for the start

1418
01:04:56,640 --> 01:04:58,760
Speaker 1: of the season coming off of a torn acl I

1419
01:04:58,840 --> 01:05:00,600
Speaker 1: kind of want to wait for the game for the

1420
01:05:00,600 --> 01:05:02,840
Speaker 1: Packers wide receivers, which is why they were low on

1421
01:05:02,840 --> 01:05:03,240
Speaker 1: my list.

1422
01:05:03,240 --> 01:05:05,560
Speaker 2: Who stands out? Who do you want to talk about

1423
01:05:05,600 --> 01:05:06,520
Speaker 2: out of that group? Shooky?

1424
01:05:06,840 --> 01:05:08,440
Speaker 5: Well, no, I think it's smart to wait for the

1425
01:05:08,480 --> 01:05:10,320
Speaker 5: games with the Packers just because they've just been so

1426
01:05:10,440 --> 01:05:12,880
Speaker 5: inconsistent year to year with production. But you've seen flashes

1427
01:05:12,920 --> 01:05:14,640
Speaker 5: from basically all of those guys, and then you add

1428
01:05:14,640 --> 01:05:19,400
Speaker 5: in the first round pick, it becomes more interesting. You know, honestly,

1429
01:05:19,520 --> 01:05:21,360
Speaker 5: I look at the forty nine Ers front seven. It's

1430
01:05:21,360 --> 01:05:23,439
Speaker 5: not just the edge group, it's the entire front seven.

1431
01:05:23,480 --> 01:05:24,480
Speaker 5: This is a team that used to have a lot

1432
01:05:24,480 --> 01:05:26,920
Speaker 5: of household names and really their entire defense. They've had

1433
01:05:26,960 --> 01:05:29,720
Speaker 5: so many guys leave, there's been so much turnover. That's

1434
01:05:29,760 --> 01:05:32,440
Speaker 5: a transitional year for them. And they also invested a

1435
01:05:32,440 --> 01:05:34,280
Speaker 5: lot in the front four. They drafted a couple of

1436
01:05:34,360 --> 01:05:37,200
Speaker 5: defensive tackles. But like this front seventh that you looked

1437
01:05:37,240 --> 01:05:39,800
Speaker 5: at now as opposed to previous years, the big names

1438
01:05:39,840 --> 01:05:42,160
Speaker 5: are basically gone. You have Bosa and you have Warner

1439
01:05:42,400 --> 01:05:43,800
Speaker 5: and the rest of it's like, all right, how are

1440
01:05:43,840 --> 01:05:45,240
Speaker 5: these guys going to fit in? So I think that's

1441
01:05:45,240 --> 01:05:47,040
Speaker 5: gonna be something that they're going to sort out in camp.

1442
01:05:47,080 --> 01:05:48,919
Speaker 5: We're gonna see a lot of examples of it during

1443
01:05:48,960 --> 01:05:51,200
Speaker 5: the preseason, but I think it's gonna be a point

1444
01:05:51,280 --> 01:05:53,520
Speaker 5: of mild concern going to this year.

1445
01:05:53,760 --> 01:05:56,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I did not include their defensive tackle

1446
01:05:56,520 --> 01:05:58,120
Speaker 1: battle on my list of fifty nine.

1447
01:05:58,160 --> 01:06:01,080
Speaker 2: You got to make some choices. Nick fifty nine.

1448
01:06:01,240 --> 01:06:04,280
Speaker 3: And C West the former Golden Flash.

1449
01:06:04,360 --> 01:06:07,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, they got two draft picks, Alfred Collins and CJ. West,

1450
01:06:07,680 --> 01:06:09,960
Speaker 1: and then they've got a two veterans who have been

1451
01:06:10,000 --> 01:06:12,880
Speaker 1: pretty forgettable, Kevin Gibbons and Jordan Elliott. Like, these are

1452
01:06:12,880 --> 01:06:14,800
Speaker 1: not the forty nine ers that used to see. And

1453
01:06:14,840 --> 01:06:18,720
Speaker 1: it's interesting how Vegas and the projection models have them

1454
01:06:19,040 --> 01:06:23,960
Speaker 1: ranked so high. Football Outsiders used to be the name.

1455
01:06:24,040 --> 01:06:28,000
Speaker 1: Now it's Aaron Shots at FDN and they have the

1456
01:06:28,000 --> 01:06:29,960
Speaker 1: forty nine ers I think projected to win the third

1457
01:06:30,040 --> 01:06:32,240
Speaker 1: most amount of games in the entire NFL. But man,

1458
01:06:32,280 --> 01:06:34,400
Speaker 1: they have some questions up front.

1459
01:06:34,440 --> 01:06:34,760
Speaker 2: All right.

1460
01:06:34,800 --> 01:06:37,840
Speaker 1: Continuing on the list, we are down to thirty eight

1461
01:06:37,920 --> 01:06:40,640
Speaker 1: on the list. We got the Bears number three, receiver.

1462
01:06:41,120 --> 01:06:43,000
Speaker 1: So that could be the rookie Luther Burden who they

1463
01:06:43,040 --> 01:06:46,000
Speaker 1: took in the second round. That could be Olomite Zekiist,

1464
01:06:46,040 --> 01:06:48,240
Speaker 1: that could be Devin Duverney, just one of those that's

1465
01:06:48,280 --> 01:06:50,160
Speaker 1: like everyone always slots in the rookie and it's like

1466
01:06:50,880 --> 01:06:53,200
Speaker 1: these guys have actually been in the league for five

1467
01:06:53,280 --> 01:06:55,640
Speaker 1: six years and they might not impress you that much.

1468
01:06:55,680 --> 01:06:57,760
Speaker 1: But like we'll see if Luthor Burden lasts in the

1469
01:06:57,880 --> 01:07:00,800
Speaker 1: NFL five six years, like you don't really, so that's

1470
01:07:00,840 --> 01:07:03,600
Speaker 1: just one to watch. But if he pops off, he

1471
01:07:03,640 --> 01:07:06,240
Speaker 1: has a nice high ceiling to add some juice to

1472
01:07:06,280 --> 01:07:10,400
Speaker 1: that group. The Vikings wide receiver three, they drafted a kid,

1473
01:07:10,440 --> 01:07:12,760
Speaker 1: Ty Felton in the third round. You have Jalen Naylor there,

1474
01:07:12,800 --> 01:07:15,680
Speaker 1: you have Rondelle Moore. They all should have roles, but

1475
01:07:15,720 --> 01:07:18,200
Speaker 1: I'll be keeping an eye on that. The Commanders are

1476
01:07:18,200 --> 01:07:21,000
Speaker 1: looking for a right tackle. They drafted Josh Connerly, but

1477
01:07:21,160 --> 01:07:24,320
Speaker 1: moving him positions to the right side. He'll probably be

1478
01:07:24,360 --> 01:07:27,480
Speaker 1: against Andrew Wiley. That's something to watch. The center at

1479
01:07:27,560 --> 01:07:31,240
Speaker 1: it for the Chargers, they're like rotating Bradley Boseman and

1480
01:07:31,360 --> 01:07:34,920
Speaker 1: Zion Johnson between center and guard. Like I don't know

1481
01:07:34,960 --> 01:07:37,960
Speaker 1: if they did enough at wide receiver or interior offensive

1482
01:07:37,960 --> 01:07:39,960
Speaker 1: line to make me as hyped as I want to

1483
01:07:40,000 --> 01:07:42,880
Speaker 1: be about the Chargers. You have the Panthers edge. Just

1484
01:07:43,000 --> 01:07:46,400
Speaker 1: in general, the Panthers edge group is to me very

1485
01:07:46,440 --> 01:07:51,600
Speaker 1: thin and wide open. Their linebacker is pretty thin as well.

1486
01:07:51,880 --> 01:07:56,000
Speaker 1: I combine that with the Dolphins linebacker, which is guys

1487
01:07:56,040 --> 01:07:59,560
Speaker 1: I know Terrell Dodson who's bounced around with Buffalo and Seattle.

1488
01:07:59,600 --> 01:08:00,120
Speaker 2: You have k J.

1489
01:08:00,200 --> 01:08:03,120
Speaker 1: Britt used to be with the Bucks, and then Willie Gay.

1490
01:08:03,200 --> 01:08:05,080
Speaker 1: That takes us to number forty three.

1491
01:08:05,360 --> 01:08:08,440
Speaker 5: Nick Schouok, kJ Bridchard took Devin White's job in Tampa

1492
01:08:08,480 --> 01:08:11,560
Speaker 5: back in the day. That's probably the group that I

1493
01:08:11,800 --> 01:08:14,480
Speaker 5: like more other than their edge Russian component, considering who

1494
01:08:14,480 --> 01:08:16,960
Speaker 5: they have still coming back. I mean, I look at

1495
01:08:17,280 --> 01:08:19,920
Speaker 5: Carolina and what I see is is a lot of

1496
01:08:20,280 --> 01:08:22,160
Speaker 5: chips being moved to the center of the table on

1497
01:08:22,360 --> 01:08:24,599
Speaker 5: guys that you've drafted, Nick Gorton being one of them.

1498
01:08:25,360 --> 01:08:27,400
Speaker 5: It's but this is what happens when you have a

1499
01:08:27,439 --> 01:08:29,360
Speaker 5: team that you had to steadily rebuild over the years.

1500
01:08:29,360 --> 01:08:31,320
Speaker 3: You can't address everything in one or two offseasons.

1501
01:08:31,320 --> 01:08:32,840
Speaker 5: So it's gonna be a test to them, but they

1502
01:08:32,880 --> 01:08:34,479
Speaker 5: did invest in the back end a lot with Travon

1503
01:08:34,520 --> 01:08:37,360
Speaker 5: Merrig and j C. Horn, So you know, I think

1504
01:08:37,400 --> 01:08:39,040
Speaker 5: that collectively they could probably be better, but they're not

1505
01:08:39,040 --> 01:08:41,720
Speaker 5: going to be super you know. I mean, they have

1506
01:08:41,800 --> 01:08:44,240
Speaker 5: Derek Brown still up there, and he's a hell of

1507
01:08:44,240 --> 01:08:46,360
Speaker 5: a player. So they're just gonna expect a lot of

1508
01:08:46,360 --> 01:08:49,799
Speaker 5: production from key guys without the collective group being super strong.

1509
01:08:50,280 --> 01:08:50,519
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1510
01:08:50,560 --> 01:08:53,120
Speaker 1: See, like you mentioned the secondary there, I think is telling.

1511
01:08:53,160 --> 01:08:55,639
Speaker 1: Like I'm with you. They made a nice signing Morg,

1512
01:08:55,880 --> 01:08:58,639
Speaker 1: they paid to keep Horn, they brought back Mike Jackson,

1513
01:08:59,240 --> 01:09:01,559
Speaker 1: and so that's three that actually feel pretty good about.

1514
01:09:01,800 --> 01:09:03,559
Speaker 1: But then they're a team that when you look at

1515
01:09:03,600 --> 01:09:05,800
Speaker 1: the depth chart, maybe these guys will step up, but

1516
01:09:06,120 --> 01:09:08,559
Speaker 1: it falls off a cliff after that. And so you

1517
01:09:08,680 --> 01:09:13,120
Speaker 1: need more than three defensive backs their linebacker position, like,

1518
01:09:13,160 --> 01:09:14,880
Speaker 1: you need more than one or two edge that you

1519
01:09:14,920 --> 01:09:17,080
Speaker 1: can count on, and I'm not sure who we can

1520
01:09:17,120 --> 01:09:17,439
Speaker 1: count on.

1521
01:09:17,479 --> 01:09:18,519
Speaker 2: There a long way to go.

1522
01:09:19,720 --> 01:09:22,200
Speaker 1: Number forty four on the list, your old friend Nick Chubb,

1523
01:09:23,040 --> 01:09:25,760
Speaker 1: the backup battle with the Texans, because I don't think

1524
01:09:25,800 --> 01:09:28,120
Speaker 1: Nick Chubb is gonna start over Joe Mixon, but keep

1525
01:09:28,120 --> 01:09:31,040
Speaker 1: an eye on him. And Demian Pierce is still there.

1526
01:09:31,400 --> 01:09:36,599
Speaker 1: They drafted the running back marks from USC, so that's

1527
01:09:36,800 --> 01:09:40,400
Speaker 1: an interesting backup battle. You're the Browns edge spot is

1528
01:09:40,439 --> 01:09:45,559
Speaker 1: pretty wide open opposite Miles Garrett. Joe Tryon Show Inca,

1529
01:09:45,720 --> 01:09:48,519
Speaker 1: the former Buccaneer is part of that battle with Alex Right.

1530
01:09:49,000 --> 01:09:51,800
Speaker 1: The Texans offensive line, like they blew it up. They

1531
01:09:51,840 --> 01:09:55,040
Speaker 1: got rid of Laramie Tunsel. It is a battle royale

1532
01:09:55,080 --> 01:09:58,040
Speaker 1: for like almost all their spots, and so we'll see

1533
01:09:58,040 --> 01:10:01,719
Speaker 1: how that works out. The line edge group is number

1534
01:10:01,720 --> 01:10:04,080
Speaker 1: forty seven on the list, already got a cross off

1535
01:10:04,080 --> 01:10:06,120
Speaker 1: a name Josh Pascal, at least for the start of

1536
01:10:06,160 --> 01:10:09,000
Speaker 1: the year, and so you're county on Mark Marcus Davenport

1537
01:10:09,080 --> 01:10:10,040
Speaker 1: to stay healthy.

1538
01:10:10,400 --> 01:10:12,880
Speaker 2: That is never the best position to be in.

1539
01:10:12,960 --> 01:10:15,439
Speaker 1: Still little thin, and you're you're counting on Aiden Hudginson

1540
01:10:15,479 --> 01:10:17,400
Speaker 1: just coming back and being the guy that he has

1541
01:10:17,439 --> 01:10:21,680
Speaker 1: been the Dolphins guard position. You drafted Jonah Sava and

1542
01:10:21,720 --> 01:10:25,160
Speaker 1: Naya to take over that spot. But again you're you're

1543
01:10:25,200 --> 01:10:26,880
Speaker 1: counting on a second round pick to start, and so

1544
01:10:26,920 --> 01:10:27,920
Speaker 1: we'll see if he beats out.

1545
01:10:27,960 --> 01:10:31,360
Speaker 2: Liam Eikenberg got the Saints third receiver group. AMN. This

1546
01:10:31,439 --> 01:10:32,160
Speaker 2: group is weird.

1547
01:10:32,200 --> 01:10:35,080
Speaker 1: And wide open, but Brandon Cooks is there, and then

1548
01:10:35,120 --> 01:10:39,160
Speaker 1: we wrap up the top fifty with the Seahawks wide

1549
01:10:39,200 --> 01:10:42,479
Speaker 1: receiver number three spot, and I just I wanted more

1550
01:10:42,520 --> 01:10:44,840
Speaker 1: Bobo in this show, so I'm putting that spot there.

1551
01:10:45,040 --> 01:10:47,680
Speaker 1: Jake Bobo, you got Marcus Valdez, Scantling, you got like

1552
01:10:47,680 --> 01:10:51,160
Speaker 1: a third round pick in Tory Horton, and that wraps

1553
01:10:51,240 --> 01:10:52,439
Speaker 1: up the top fifty there.

1554
01:10:53,120 --> 01:10:53,320
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1555
01:10:53,400 --> 01:10:55,400
Speaker 5: Yeah, anytime you can get more Bobo in your life,

1556
01:10:55,560 --> 01:10:57,080
Speaker 5: you have to capitalize on that.

1557
01:10:57,120 --> 01:10:58,040
Speaker 3: You have take advantage of it.

1558
01:10:58,520 --> 01:11:00,680
Speaker 5: And I would agree, you know, like a top three

1559
01:11:00,680 --> 01:11:04,080
Speaker 5: that includes MVS. I'm just gonna say it right now.

1560
01:11:04,320 --> 01:11:06,400
Speaker 1: He probably isn't gonna win that group. I think he'll

1561
01:11:06,439 --> 01:11:07,320
Speaker 1: be fourth or fifth.

1562
01:11:07,560 --> 01:11:09,519
Speaker 5: I would like to see more Bobo, I agree. I

1563
01:11:09,520 --> 01:11:10,960
Speaker 5: know we have some people in the newsroom out in

1564
01:11:11,040 --> 01:11:13,240
Speaker 5: LA that would agree with that as well. Really white

1565
01:11:13,280 --> 01:11:16,840
Speaker 5: the third UNLV product i'd like to see. I don't know,

1566
01:11:16,960 --> 01:11:19,240
Speaker 5: it gets pretty thin after the top three, but we

1567
01:11:19,320 --> 01:11:21,639
Speaker 5: do have a lot of attention paid to Cooper Cup

1568
01:11:21,640 --> 01:11:23,719
Speaker 5: and Jackson Smith the Jigy out there with Sam Darnold

1569
01:11:23,800 --> 01:11:26,280
Speaker 5: Man tricky here for them coming off of you know,

1570
01:11:26,720 --> 01:11:31,519
Speaker 5: making some significant changes and everything else could be a

1571
01:11:31,560 --> 01:11:32,679
Speaker 5: bit of a danger.

1572
01:11:32,720 --> 01:11:35,400
Speaker 3: There could be walking on some mon steady footing there.

1573
01:11:36,000 --> 01:11:39,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I'm I'm really curious to see and hear

1574
01:11:39,160 --> 01:11:41,240
Speaker 1: the reports about Cooper Cup. You would expect it to

1575
01:11:41,240 --> 01:11:43,760
Speaker 1: be very positive. Sometimes you can't trust everything in camp.

1576
01:11:43,800 --> 01:11:46,360
Speaker 1: Like I remember all the positive reports about Alan Robinson

1577
01:11:46,360 --> 01:11:48,240
Speaker 1: with the Rams a couple of years ago, and it

1578
01:11:48,280 --> 01:11:50,519
Speaker 1: didn't really happen when when the game started. But I

1579
01:11:50,760 --> 01:11:53,479
Speaker 1: will be curious, really curious to see how Cooper Cup

1580
01:11:53,520 --> 01:11:56,599
Speaker 1: season looks in Seattle. But he's not on this list

1581
01:11:56,600 --> 01:12:01,240
Speaker 1: because he's not really battling the final names on these lists.

1582
01:12:01,200 --> 01:12:03,599
Speaker 1: At least these final battles are lesser ones. I mean

1583
01:12:03,600 --> 01:12:07,000
Speaker 1: I ranked them in order. But Rams linebacker is like

1584
01:12:07,160 --> 01:12:11,520
Speaker 1: wide open the end of the roster. Texans wide receivers

1585
01:12:11,520 --> 01:12:13,559
Speaker 1: after the top couple guys, I'm talking about guys like

1586
01:12:13,600 --> 01:12:19,120
Speaker 1: John Metchi. You know Watson's there, justin Watson, the former

1587
01:12:19,320 --> 01:12:20,599
Speaker 1: chief Braxton Barrios.

1588
01:12:20,680 --> 01:12:21,679
Speaker 2: That to me is interesting.

1589
01:12:21,800 --> 01:12:25,559
Speaker 1: The Browns wide receivers are pretty wide open after Judy

1590
01:12:25,680 --> 01:12:27,040
Speaker 1: and maybe Cedric Tillman.

1591
01:12:27,640 --> 01:12:29,080
Speaker 2: The Titans edge group.

1592
01:12:30,280 --> 01:12:33,360
Speaker 1: We'll see if their second round pick Oladejo can immediately

1593
01:12:33,400 --> 01:12:36,360
Speaker 1: like become a contributor. Arden Keys is there, Draymont Jones

1594
01:12:36,360 --> 01:12:39,080
Speaker 1: is There're some interesting names. See who ends up on top.

1595
01:12:40,120 --> 01:12:42,640
Speaker 1: You have the forty nine Ers defensive tackle lists we

1596
01:12:42,680 --> 01:12:44,479
Speaker 1: already hit. I guess I did put them on the list,

1597
01:12:44,520 --> 01:12:49,519
Speaker 1: they were just much lower. And the Chargers linebacker Junior Colson,

1598
01:12:49,640 --> 01:12:51,240
Speaker 1: who they were hope they took in the third round,

1599
01:12:51,280 --> 01:12:54,200
Speaker 1: one of the first picks with jun with Jim Harbaugh

1600
01:12:54,280 --> 01:12:56,320
Speaker 1: his former Michigan player. Can he get on the field.

1601
01:12:56,520 --> 01:13:00,400
Speaker 1: He's fighting an uphill battle against Denzel Perryman. And you

1602
01:13:00,479 --> 01:13:03,599
Speaker 1: got your Browns tackle spots they're kind of wide open

1603
01:13:03,640 --> 01:13:07,120
Speaker 1: because of health. The Colts off ball linebacker and yes,

1604
01:13:07,160 --> 01:13:10,360
Speaker 1: the Tech Titans safety position. That was where I was like, okay,

1605
01:13:10,400 --> 01:13:14,360
Speaker 1: I've gone too far. Xavier Woods did it. Third round

1606
01:13:14,439 --> 01:13:17,679
Speaker 1: pick Kevin Winston. I was like, Okay, that's it. Kevin

1607
01:13:17,680 --> 01:13:19,960
Speaker 1: Winston's maybe an interesting player. I think it needs to

1608
01:13:19,960 --> 01:13:21,360
Speaker 1: wrap it up right there?

1609
01:13:21,520 --> 01:13:27,560
Speaker 2: They the Browns receiving Yeah, stop, well they have Deontay Johnson,

1610
01:13:27,720 --> 01:13:30,120
Speaker 2: and to me, I find Deontay Johnson interesting.

1611
01:13:30,160 --> 01:13:34,439
Speaker 1: Can Deoncey Johnson actually become an NFL player again?

1612
01:13:34,880 --> 01:13:36,800
Speaker 2: Is you know in theory.

1613
01:13:36,600 --> 01:13:40,120
Speaker 1: Team, like if you had told me two years ago,

1614
01:13:40,120 --> 01:13:42,360
Speaker 1: who would you take out of that entire group that's

1615
01:13:42,360 --> 01:13:45,960
Speaker 1: on the team right now, including Jerry Judy and Cedric Tillman,

1616
01:13:46,080 --> 01:13:48,439
Speaker 1: as like I would be like Deanty Johnson's probably the

1617
01:13:48,439 --> 01:13:50,400
Speaker 1: best player, so you never know, maybe maybe he could

1618
01:13:50,439 --> 01:13:51,280
Speaker 1: be wide receiver one.

1619
01:13:51,600 --> 01:13:53,200
Speaker 3: This is no shade towards Cedric Tillman.

1620
01:13:53,240 --> 01:13:55,400
Speaker 5: But the fact that you said after Judy and Tilman,

1621
01:13:55,479 --> 01:13:57,840
Speaker 5: I was like, oh, yikes, because.

1622
01:13:57,720 --> 01:13:59,920
Speaker 2: Right, well, he's got to make the team. I think

1623
01:14:00,280 --> 01:14:00,719
Speaker 2: he will.

1624
01:14:00,760 --> 01:14:03,160
Speaker 5: But like you got Jamari Thrash who was a draft pick,

1625
01:14:03,200 --> 01:14:05,880
Speaker 5: Michael Woods who just hangs around every year. I don't

1626
01:14:05,880 --> 01:14:07,599
Speaker 5: know how, David Bell, who I don't know how he's

1627
01:14:07,600 --> 01:14:10,120
Speaker 5: still on the team. DeAndre Carter was a sneaky ad.

1628
01:14:10,320 --> 01:14:12,120
Speaker 5: I mean, now, this is not a good group. This

1629
01:14:12,160 --> 01:14:14,120
Speaker 5: is not going to be a good offense. Everybody should

1630
01:14:14,160 --> 01:14:17,040
Speaker 5: prepare for that. But I think the Junior Colson thing

1631
01:14:17,080 --> 01:14:18,920
Speaker 5: is interesting to me because for as good of a

1632
01:14:18,920 --> 01:14:20,960
Speaker 5: linebackers who was at Michigan, I felt he was overvalued

1633
01:14:21,000 --> 01:14:22,519
Speaker 5: coming into the NFL and that he ended up with

1634
01:14:22,560 --> 01:14:25,439
Speaker 5: the Chargers at that pick because Harball was the coach there.

1635
01:14:25,760 --> 01:14:27,560
Speaker 5: And so if there's going to be a year for

1636
01:14:27,680 --> 01:14:30,040
Speaker 5: him to prove that he's worth it. I think he

1637
01:14:30,080 --> 01:14:32,519
Speaker 5: starts toward that right now. And it's not a weak

1638
01:14:32,600 --> 01:14:34,960
Speaker 5: group overall. It's just that he's going to battle some

1639
01:14:35,000 --> 01:14:37,439
Speaker 5: guys who have a little bit more playing experience than him,

1640
01:14:37,479 --> 01:14:40,040
Speaker 5: you know, Diane Henley being out there, Perryman, like you mentioned.

1641
01:14:39,760 --> 01:14:41,960
Speaker 2: I mean Henley, they're hoping and becomes an all pro.

1642
01:14:42,120 --> 01:14:43,120
Speaker 2: He is a stud.

1643
01:14:43,360 --> 01:14:43,920
Speaker 3: He's a study.

1644
01:14:44,080 --> 01:14:46,439
Speaker 1: He was their breakout guy a year ago. And yeah,

1645
01:14:46,479 --> 01:14:48,800
Speaker 1: and so Paraman's more of the run stopper. Can you

1646
01:14:48,800 --> 01:14:51,360
Speaker 1: get it? I think I think Henley's kind of taken

1647
01:14:51,439 --> 01:14:54,719
Speaker 1: his job. And it reminds me of our training camp

1648
01:14:54,800 --> 01:14:57,800
Speaker 1: visit to the Chargers last year, and I asked Matt

1649
01:14:57,840 --> 01:15:00,840
Speaker 1: money Smith, this was very early in Chargers camp, give

1650
01:15:00,920 --> 01:15:04,760
Speaker 1: me one player that fans don't know about that could

1651
01:15:04,800 --> 01:15:06,439
Speaker 1: that they should keep an eye on this year.

1652
01:15:06,520 --> 01:15:08,840
Speaker 2: And he said, dayon Henley. And he nailed that.

1653
01:15:09,240 --> 01:15:11,759
Speaker 1: Because Dan Henley became one of the best young linebackers

1654
01:15:11,760 --> 01:15:13,519
Speaker 1: in the league, and I think he's stolen that spot

1655
01:15:13,560 --> 01:15:16,479
Speaker 1: basically from Junior Colson. We will be heading out to

1656
01:15:16,520 --> 01:15:20,160
Speaker 1: some training camps. We're working on the particulars we got

1657
01:15:20,240 --> 01:15:24,080
Speaker 1: back together Saturday this weekend. NFL Network coming back on air,

1658
01:15:24,320 --> 01:15:27,639
Speaker 1: so our trips will come after that. But I hope

1659
01:15:27,640 --> 01:15:30,280
Speaker 1: we're going to be going to the Saints and the Cowboys,

1660
01:15:30,400 --> 01:15:33,320
Speaker 1: and I believe the Rams this year, so I'm looking

1661
01:15:33,360 --> 01:15:36,320
Speaker 1: forward to that. I'm looking forward to this entire season.

1662
01:15:37,760 --> 01:15:40,960
Speaker 1: Our former Browns employee for a brief time, Nick Shook,

1663
01:15:41,160 --> 01:15:43,960
Speaker 1: we got you back with the NFL, and we couldn't

1664
01:15:43,960 --> 01:15:45,679
Speaker 1: feel any better about it. It's gonna be fun doing

1665
01:15:45,680 --> 01:15:47,720
Speaker 1: this season, and we're going to be doing doing these

1666
01:15:47,760 --> 01:15:50,000
Speaker 1: Sunday nights with you throughout training camp.

1667
01:15:50,040 --> 01:15:50,400
Speaker 2: Shookie.

1668
01:15:50,479 --> 01:15:52,639
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, oh yeah, looking forward to it. Years ago.

1669
01:15:52,680 --> 01:15:54,240
Speaker 3: I used to sweat wearing a bucket.

1670
01:15:53,920 --> 01:15:56,360
Speaker 5: Hat and Beriah, Yeah.

1671
01:15:56,160 --> 01:15:59,040
Speaker 2: That's a hot one with you. That's a hot one.

1672
01:15:59,080 --> 01:16:01,519
Speaker 1: I'd rather be doing podcast with me, but I'm biased.

1673
01:16:01,520 --> 01:16:05,840
Speaker 1: We will be back on Tuesday with Colleen Wolf. I'm

1674
01:16:05,880 --> 01:16:10,479
Speaker 1: looking forward to getting back inside the Chris Westling podcast

1675
01:16:10,479 --> 01:16:13,320
Speaker 1: studio with my friend Colleen check in on what her

1676
01:16:13,360 --> 01:16:17,120
Speaker 1: summer is like. Yeah, like when the majority of the

1677
01:16:17,200 --> 01:16:20,480
Speaker 1: NFL is literally reporting for training camp tomorrow.

1678
01:16:20,160 --> 01:16:22,639
Speaker 2: Like that is the definition of football. Being back