1 00:00:01,080 --> 00:00:06,440 Speaker 1: The Around the League Podcast wishes you weren't a liar. 2 00:00:10,480 --> 00:00:12,799 Speaker 1: Welcome back to another edition of the Round the League Podcast. 3 00:00:12,800 --> 00:00:14,680 Speaker 1: My name is Dan Hands. I'm joined by a room 4 00:00:14,720 --> 00:00:18,639 Speaker 1: filled with some heroes, Mark Sessler and Chris Westling. What 5 00:00:18,760 --> 00:00:22,040 Speaker 1: a boys, Hey, Dan? We uh, well, as you know, 6 00:00:22,200 --> 00:00:25,159 Speaker 1: we don't have the boss with us, Greg Rosenthal not 7 00:00:25,280 --> 00:00:28,400 Speaker 1: in the room. A lot of strange behavior out of 8 00:00:28,400 --> 00:00:31,760 Speaker 1: west during Greg's absence, Like yourself as well, I've been 9 00:00:32,360 --> 00:00:36,680 Speaker 1: My behavior has been in line. You've been running, you know, 10 00:00:36,720 --> 00:00:39,680 Speaker 1: continue to be productive on the bounty here with you 11 00:00:39,760 --> 00:00:44,320 Speaker 1: as our fearless leader. Mark Sessler speaking nonsense up top 12 00:00:44,600 --> 00:00:47,040 Speaker 1: on the show today. It's very exciting because you know 13 00:00:47,120 --> 00:00:49,800 Speaker 1: that might mean we're in for a wild card Sessler 14 00:00:49,920 --> 00:00:54,080 Speaker 1: show says. He says, disturbing a lot. He talks about 15 00:00:54,080 --> 00:01:00,800 Speaker 1: the wilderness. We're having a Sessler of about Cessler. At 16 00:01:00,800 --> 00:01:03,000 Speaker 1: the beginning of the podcast, Greg ros withal is on 17 00:01:03,120 --> 00:01:07,240 Speaker 1: vacation um out of out of the picture, doing father 18 00:01:07,360 --> 00:01:10,240 Speaker 1: type things and husband type things. That's good. We said 19 00:01:10,280 --> 00:01:12,400 Speaker 1: we were gonna Bucky Brooks on today. Turns out Bucky's 20 00:01:12,440 --> 00:01:14,679 Speaker 1: in Oregon. I didn't know that. We didn't know that, 21 00:01:14,800 --> 00:01:17,000 Speaker 1: so Bucky's not gonna be here, but we'll we'll try 22 00:01:17,040 --> 00:01:21,919 Speaker 1: to get in Mr Brooks soon to give his takes 23 00:01:21,959 --> 00:01:25,360 Speaker 1: on the NFL and insider type things as a scout 24 00:01:25,440 --> 00:01:28,600 Speaker 1: and man that knows things. We have a nice show 25 00:01:28,640 --> 00:01:32,640 Speaker 1: for you today. People. I'm happy with today's show. I 26 00:01:32,680 --> 00:01:35,240 Speaker 1: am too. It's kind of juicy and it hasn't even started. 27 00:01:35,280 --> 00:01:37,560 Speaker 1: So let's I'll tell you what we're doing. We're gonna 28 00:01:37,640 --> 00:01:42,039 Speaker 1: the top one hundred is over. Rejoice people of America 29 00:01:42,480 --> 00:01:45,880 Speaker 1: and the world. Uh, with Peyton Manning landing at number one. 30 00:01:45,959 --> 00:01:48,800 Speaker 1: So we're gonna get into a little bit of Manning, 31 00:01:48,800 --> 00:01:50,840 Speaker 1: a little bit of what the top ten that the 32 00:01:50,840 --> 00:01:53,920 Speaker 1: players picked was, and then uh, we'll go around the 33 00:01:54,040 --> 00:01:56,920 Speaker 1: table and talk about how we might try to fix 34 00:01:56,960 --> 00:01:59,240 Speaker 1: the top one because I know, God knows we complain 35 00:01:59,280 --> 00:02:01,520 Speaker 1: about the top one it a lot. Let's do something 36 00:02:01,520 --> 00:02:05,520 Speaker 1: about it. You know what I'm saying. Be proactive, be 37 00:02:05,640 --> 00:02:11,880 Speaker 1: the change you want to be to see in Also, 38 00:02:11,919 --> 00:02:14,720 Speaker 1: we will be hitting our making the Leap series now down, 39 00:02:15,280 --> 00:02:18,320 Speaker 1: gentlemen to the final four names. Uh, So we're gonna 40 00:02:18,400 --> 00:02:24,639 Speaker 1: hit one two running backs, hi octane fantasy football players here. Yes, sir, 41 00:02:24,680 --> 00:02:27,960 Speaker 1: we actually should we should talk some fantasy at some 42 00:02:28,040 --> 00:02:32,440 Speaker 1: point before training camp, because we have Chris Westling and 43 00:02:32,680 --> 00:02:35,880 Speaker 1: Greg Rosenthal and to a much lesser extent, Mark Sessler 44 00:02:36,000 --> 00:02:40,080 Speaker 1: fantasy minds of the the nth degree. So at some 45 00:02:40,120 --> 00:02:41,760 Speaker 1: point we'll get into that, but not today. But yes, 46 00:02:41,760 --> 00:02:44,079 Speaker 1: we're gonna talk to running backs that will make the 47 00:02:44,120 --> 00:02:45,840 Speaker 1: leak one one in the a f C and one 48 00:02:45,840 --> 00:02:48,920 Speaker 1: in the NFC. Before any of that, however, we have 49 00:02:49,919 --> 00:02:53,920 Speaker 1: a man fiddling with buttons, dressed in all black with 50 00:02:53,960 --> 00:02:57,119 Speaker 1: a black headset, dark black hair. He's like the black 51 00:02:57,200 --> 00:03:00,120 Speaker 1: Johnny Cash. He's he's a beautiful man. His name is 52 00:03:00,160 --> 00:03:03,679 Speaker 1: TV or black Tie. What's going on, fellas? How you 53 00:03:03,680 --> 00:03:06,079 Speaker 1: guys doing today? We're doing well, We're doing this sound 54 00:03:06,120 --> 00:03:10,760 Speaker 1: a little tired, long story. Didn't you have an massage? 55 00:03:11,639 --> 00:03:13,079 Speaker 1: Do you want us? Do you want us to keep 56 00:03:13,120 --> 00:03:15,919 Speaker 1: you kind of out of the loop conversationally today while 57 00:03:15,960 --> 00:03:17,960 Speaker 1: you were recovered? No, No, I'm just working in a 58 00:03:17,960 --> 00:03:19,679 Speaker 1: few things that it's a big day to day and 59 00:03:19,880 --> 00:03:23,200 Speaker 1: recording a Damn Chick podcast as well, also recording money 60 00:03:23,240 --> 00:03:28,240 Speaker 1: tax recording session. Yeah, excellent recording sessions. So I actually 61 00:03:28,280 --> 00:03:30,600 Speaker 1: just tweeted that out a couple of minutes ago photo 62 00:03:30,840 --> 00:03:33,280 Speaker 1: you know, they know how like J J Abrams tweets 63 00:03:33,280 --> 00:03:35,360 Speaker 1: out behind the scenes photo of the Star Wars you know, 64 00:03:35,560 --> 00:03:37,200 Speaker 1: because I kind of did one of those, like you know, 65 00:03:37,240 --> 00:03:40,200 Speaker 1: the script, so speaking like, oh, yeah, that's this is 66 00:03:40,200 --> 00:03:42,720 Speaker 1: what we got going on. Damn. Who's J J Abrams. 67 00:03:42,720 --> 00:03:44,840 Speaker 1: He is a man that does things in the movies. 68 00:03:44,880 --> 00:03:49,080 Speaker 1: I believe you know him. He's the guy from the 69 00:03:49,160 --> 00:03:53,680 Speaker 1: Star Trek, Star Trek, Star Wars, Star Wars. I made 70 00:03:53,680 --> 00:03:56,440 Speaker 1: the mistake yesterday on Twitter last night of trolling Star 71 00:03:56,480 --> 00:03:59,680 Speaker 1: Wars fans. It was awesome. I mean I thought so 72 00:03:59,800 --> 00:04:02,040 Speaker 1: with the Immediately I realized that I had made a 73 00:04:02,080 --> 00:04:05,920 Speaker 1: huge mistake because there are roughly seven trillion Star Wars 74 00:04:06,000 --> 00:04:10,600 Speaker 1: fans on the Internet, including Mark. I wouldn't classify myself 75 00:04:10,640 --> 00:04:12,920 Speaker 1: as like an internet Star Wars fan. It's just that 76 00:04:13,000 --> 00:04:14,880 Speaker 1: I think that you certainly did poke the bear on 77 00:04:14,920 --> 00:04:18,000 Speaker 1: that one. But then you recovered with a great tweet 78 00:04:18,000 --> 00:04:23,200 Speaker 1: about Luke Skywalker's invisibility cloak invincibility cloak. That people didn't 79 00:04:23,200 --> 00:04:25,719 Speaker 1: like that one either anyway. T d oh and yeah, 80 00:04:25,720 --> 00:04:29,400 Speaker 1: Matt money Smith, who I bumped into yesterday in the 81 00:04:29,440 --> 00:04:33,320 Speaker 1: makeup room of NFL Network you know, we're doing some 82 00:04:32,880 --> 00:04:36,800 Speaker 1: uh some testing rehearsals for the NFL Now launch, which 83 00:04:36,839 --> 00:04:40,280 Speaker 1: is a new uh kind of network website type venture 84 00:04:40,360 --> 00:04:43,320 Speaker 1: for the web for the NFL media conglomerate. Is that 85 00:04:43,320 --> 00:04:48,799 Speaker 1: correct perfectly? The up shot here is that your NFL 86 00:04:49,160 --> 00:04:55,560 Speaker 1: your Way, Yeah Aroundoly podcast fans will see a lot 87 00:04:55,600 --> 00:04:58,640 Speaker 1: more of Dan Hansen's face. I don't know if that's 88 00:04:58,800 --> 00:05:01,080 Speaker 1: quite an up shot. We will see a lot more 89 00:05:01,120 --> 00:05:03,560 Speaker 1: of Mark Sessler and Chris Wesling, who was the only 90 00:05:03,560 --> 00:05:06,520 Speaker 1: person to do his rehearsal yesterday without makeup because he's 91 00:05:06,520 --> 00:05:09,159 Speaker 1: a man's man. Lory forgot to go by the way 92 00:05:09,360 --> 00:05:13,640 Speaker 1: money Man money, tag Man money, Matt money Smith there. Well, 93 00:05:13,680 --> 00:05:19,640 Speaker 1: he's got many names. He was getting haircut in there now. Yeah, 94 00:05:20,560 --> 00:05:27,839 Speaker 1: that's a service that they provide. I could use a haircut. Hey, 95 00:05:27,920 --> 00:05:36,040 Speaker 1: let's do some news t d Oha called back and 96 00:05:36,120 --> 00:05:37,840 Speaker 1: love it just a little love for you know, as 97 00:05:37,839 --> 00:05:39,880 Speaker 1: you say that to you just done. Payton Manning was 98 00:05:40,040 --> 00:05:43,360 Speaker 1: number one, so always putting in the homework on this. 99 00:05:43,800 --> 00:05:48,640 Speaker 1: We'll start with a Houston Texans things with Andre Johnson. 100 00:05:48,720 --> 00:05:51,159 Speaker 1: We we got a report yesterday actually was from our 101 00:05:51,200 --> 00:05:54,640 Speaker 1: own NFL media's Marcus Smith, who spoke with Andre Johnson 102 00:05:55,240 --> 00:05:58,960 Speaker 1: UH and Johnson said he hopefully planned to be at 103 00:05:58,960 --> 00:06:00,960 Speaker 1: training camp for the text and is now an interesting 104 00:06:00,960 --> 00:06:05,440 Speaker 1: report on Thursday morning from NFL media insider Ian Rappaport, 105 00:06:05,680 --> 00:06:08,600 Speaker 1: Johnson of course missed workouts, but he had wanted the 106 00:06:08,640 --> 00:06:12,120 Speaker 1: opportunity to earn back UH some of the money workout 107 00:06:12,160 --> 00:06:15,640 Speaker 1: bonuses that he had lost. He approached the Texans about 108 00:06:15,680 --> 00:06:18,760 Speaker 1: that opportunity. The Texans told him no, par two sources 109 00:06:18,760 --> 00:06:22,280 Speaker 1: informed of the situation. This has led to an additional 110 00:06:22,320 --> 00:06:26,280 Speaker 1: schism between the two sides. UH. This is UH that 111 00:06:26,320 --> 00:06:29,040 Speaker 1: caused Johnson to tell the Texans he wanted to play 112 00:06:29,040 --> 00:06:32,200 Speaker 1: for another team. He is now working out quote not 113 00:06:32,360 --> 00:06:36,080 Speaker 1: thinking about the Texans, a source said. And Rappaport also 114 00:06:36,120 --> 00:06:40,200 Speaker 1: reported that four teams have reached out to the Texans 115 00:06:40,400 --> 00:06:44,680 Speaker 1: interested in trading for the all pro wide receiver. I 116 00:06:44,720 --> 00:06:46,760 Speaker 1: can understand why the Texans don't want to set a 117 00:06:46,800 --> 00:06:49,440 Speaker 1: precedent by paying him a bonus that he didn't work 118 00:06:49,440 --> 00:06:53,280 Speaker 1: out for. He skipped workout, so okay if you pay him, 119 00:06:53,360 --> 00:06:56,240 Speaker 1: but it fails the common sense test. He's been the 120 00:06:56,240 --> 00:06:59,000 Speaker 1: face of the franchise ever since they've been a franchise. 121 00:06:59,560 --> 00:07:02,159 Speaker 1: He's he at three times in the last three years. 122 00:07:02,400 --> 00:07:05,800 Speaker 1: He's restructured his contract at third behest, so he's done 123 00:07:05,800 --> 00:07:07,760 Speaker 1: them a favor and he's like, he wants a little 124 00:07:07,800 --> 00:07:10,120 Speaker 1: bit back and they tell him no. It does seem 125 00:07:10,160 --> 00:07:13,000 Speaker 1: that if your overall goal, if you're Bill O'Brien and 126 00:07:13,040 --> 00:07:15,240 Speaker 1: you're the Texans and you want to get this guy 127 00:07:15,280 --> 00:07:18,600 Speaker 1: happy and back in part of your system, that this 128 00:07:18,800 --> 00:07:20,920 Speaker 1: is getting stuck in the details for a guy that 129 00:07:21,000 --> 00:07:23,400 Speaker 1: has given up money for Houston in the past, and 130 00:07:23,440 --> 00:07:28,160 Speaker 1: West you said downstairs zero former disgruntled or yeah, you're 131 00:07:28,160 --> 00:07:31,680 Speaker 1: a disgruntled former Bengals fan, that this was kind of 132 00:07:31,680 --> 00:07:35,080 Speaker 1: like a nineties Bengals move by the Texans towards their 133 00:07:35,120 --> 00:07:38,320 Speaker 1: marquee player. Well, I think this is the closest holdout 134 00:07:38,400 --> 00:07:40,360 Speaker 1: or whatever it is to what Carson Palmer did with 135 00:07:40,400 --> 00:07:43,720 Speaker 1: the Bengals. Palmer was just people kept trying to figure 136 00:07:43,720 --> 00:07:46,240 Speaker 1: out why he wasn't gonna play for them, And as 137 00:07:46,280 --> 00:07:49,080 Speaker 1: a recovering Bengals fan myself, I knew exactly why he 138 00:07:49,120 --> 00:07:51,560 Speaker 1: wasn't playing for them. He was just tired of the losing, 139 00:07:51,800 --> 00:07:55,160 Speaker 1: the inaptitude, the dysfunctional nature of the franchise. So he said, 140 00:07:55,160 --> 00:07:58,360 Speaker 1: I'm not coming back. And Andre Johnson's almost at that point. Now, 141 00:07:59,520 --> 00:08:01,720 Speaker 1: Mark said, slur, because this is what the sizzler does. 142 00:08:01,840 --> 00:08:06,320 Speaker 1: Quickly jumped onto his laptop and hammered out some potential 143 00:08:06,400 --> 00:08:08,520 Speaker 1: landing spots for Ron J. Johnson if he were to 144 00:08:08,560 --> 00:08:11,360 Speaker 1: be traded. And Mark, I guess before we go through 145 00:08:11,480 --> 00:08:14,320 Speaker 1: the teams that you threw out there a caveat that 146 00:08:14,360 --> 00:08:16,160 Speaker 1: it's going to be pretty hard to move a player 147 00:08:16,360 --> 00:08:21,200 Speaker 1: considering his salary. Well, you know, yesterday NFL Media's Marcus 148 00:08:21,200 --> 00:08:24,040 Speaker 1: Smith talked with Andre Johnson and that point it sounded 149 00:08:24,080 --> 00:08:27,040 Speaker 1: like he was Johnson was hopeful and getting back to Kings. 150 00:08:27,120 --> 00:08:29,679 Speaker 1: As I said earlier in today's podcast, as you mentioned before, 151 00:08:29,720 --> 00:08:32,120 Speaker 1: thanks for listening. Well, you know, by the way, when 152 00:08:32,160 --> 00:08:34,760 Speaker 1: you snuffed me on the fantasy football front, I turned 153 00:08:34,760 --> 00:08:39,840 Speaker 1: my years off to you entirely. Lets all right, go ahead, 154 00:08:39,960 --> 00:08:43,160 Speaker 1: all right? So I think that though we've said all 155 00:08:43,200 --> 00:08:45,320 Speaker 1: along from the around the league perspective that we just 156 00:08:45,400 --> 00:08:48,400 Speaker 1: don't see a trade being very feasible because of the 157 00:08:48,600 --> 00:08:51,679 Speaker 1: roughly twelve million the Texans would need to absorb and 158 00:08:51,760 --> 00:08:54,520 Speaker 1: cap him to move him. But things are getting thorny 159 00:08:54,600 --> 00:08:57,480 Speaker 1: and if there are teams calling, and we've talked about 160 00:08:57,520 --> 00:09:00,320 Speaker 1: what wesley a second round pick along with maybe a 161 00:09:00,400 --> 00:09:03,480 Speaker 1: later pick as a potential asking price, I think, I mean, 162 00:09:03,559 --> 00:09:06,240 Speaker 1: does it. It feels like this is becoming more possible. 163 00:09:06,280 --> 00:09:08,560 Speaker 1: So we were like, yes, let's come up with a list, 164 00:09:08,880 --> 00:09:11,480 Speaker 1: So let's go through. I'll just throw out the list 165 00:09:11,520 --> 00:09:14,319 Speaker 1: and uh, you know, we'll take it from there around. 166 00:09:14,400 --> 00:09:16,360 Speaker 1: By the way, is this in order of like most 167 00:09:16,440 --> 00:09:21,120 Speaker 1: likely destinations or when I was told by our program 168 00:09:21,200 --> 00:09:24,760 Speaker 1: director to uh to write this up, we had about 169 00:09:24,760 --> 00:09:27,120 Speaker 1: twenty minutes before the podcast started, so it is in 170 00:09:27,360 --> 00:09:30,959 Speaker 1: haphazard order. The top three or the three most likely 171 00:09:31,440 --> 00:09:35,240 Speaker 1: to New England Patriots, the Cleveland Browns, who pop up 172 00:09:35,240 --> 00:09:37,800 Speaker 1: on every list about speculation on this site, no matter 173 00:09:37,840 --> 00:09:41,560 Speaker 1: what player we're talking about, and the Carolina Panthers. There 174 00:09:41,600 --> 00:09:44,400 Speaker 1: are your top three, followed by the Seattle Seahawks, the 175 00:09:44,440 --> 00:09:48,080 Speaker 1: New York Jets, the Baltimore Ravens, the Kansas City Chiefs. 176 00:09:48,480 --> 00:09:51,440 Speaker 1: So West, you said, those top three teams, Pats, Browns, 177 00:09:51,480 --> 00:09:55,480 Speaker 1: Panthers seem like the most likely. I have no inside 178 00:09:55,520 --> 00:09:59,200 Speaker 1: info here, but the Browns stand out to me. I 179 00:09:59,240 --> 00:10:01,920 Speaker 1: always like to look connections whenever these things come up. 180 00:10:02,120 --> 00:10:06,160 Speaker 1: And Kyle Shanahan was the offensive coordinator in Houston a 181 00:10:06,200 --> 00:10:08,280 Speaker 1: few years back and did a really good job. He 182 00:10:08,400 --> 00:10:11,640 Speaker 1: and he and Johnson worked beautifully together. And the Browns, 183 00:10:11,640 --> 00:10:14,800 Speaker 1: obviously you need a wide receiver. They've got the Bill's 184 00:10:14,920 --> 00:10:17,720 Speaker 1: draft pick next year, They've got extra draft picks. They 185 00:10:17,760 --> 00:10:19,559 Speaker 1: seem to make the most sense to me. The sticking 186 00:10:19,559 --> 00:10:22,640 Speaker 1: point for me a little with Cleveland is I don't 187 00:10:22,679 --> 00:10:25,040 Speaker 1: know how Houston would handle this with Johnson if they 188 00:10:25,080 --> 00:10:27,319 Speaker 1: want to honor his wishes to go to a contender. 189 00:10:27,720 --> 00:10:29,360 Speaker 1: It would be fair that anyone that's been in the 190 00:10:29,400 --> 00:10:32,000 Speaker 1: league for ten years would not view the Browns as 191 00:10:32,000 --> 00:10:34,800 Speaker 1: a contender. We are, yeah, as a group, the A 192 00:10:34,920 --> 00:10:36,560 Speaker 1: t L group, and I feel like a lot of 193 00:10:36,600 --> 00:10:38,559 Speaker 1: people that follow the NFL closely as a whole view 194 00:10:38,559 --> 00:10:41,560 Speaker 1: of the Browns as an organization that is very close 195 00:10:41,600 --> 00:10:44,400 Speaker 1: to potentially turning the corner. But you know the bottom 196 00:10:44,400 --> 00:10:46,200 Speaker 1: line of the situation, and Mark you are the first 197 00:10:46,240 --> 00:10:48,720 Speaker 1: to attest. This is a franchise that's lost eleven or 198 00:10:48,720 --> 00:10:52,400 Speaker 1: twelve games every year since two thousand eight, So really, 199 00:10:52,440 --> 00:10:54,880 Speaker 1: what the Browns need to take the next step probably 200 00:10:54,960 --> 00:10:58,240 Speaker 1: is Manzel becoming the quarterback the Browns hope they will be. 201 00:10:58,559 --> 00:11:00,319 Speaker 1: He will be, But if he isn't, or if he 202 00:11:00,320 --> 00:11:02,720 Speaker 1: struggles as a rookie, or for some reason they stick 203 00:11:02,760 --> 00:11:05,400 Speaker 1: with Hoyer too long, what does that do for Andre Johnson? 204 00:11:05,480 --> 00:11:07,120 Speaker 1: I mean, I just feel like the Browns are a 205 00:11:07,160 --> 00:11:10,080 Speaker 1: situation where it could go badly for Johnson if he 206 00:11:10,120 --> 00:11:13,640 Speaker 1: wants a contender. The Panthers to me, make the most sense, uh, 207 00:11:13,679 --> 00:11:17,000 Speaker 1: for for both Johnson, who goes to a team that, uh, 208 00:11:17,040 --> 00:11:19,000 Speaker 1: you know, has a chance at the super Bowl, and 209 00:11:19,040 --> 00:11:21,120 Speaker 1: the Texans, who can ship him out of the conference. 210 00:11:21,840 --> 00:11:25,560 Speaker 1: The Panthers are interesting because that's a position of need 211 00:11:25,600 --> 00:11:28,600 Speaker 1: for them, And aside from a couple of questions on 212 00:11:28,600 --> 00:11:32,240 Speaker 1: the offensive line, if you get Andre Johnson and better 213 00:11:32,240 --> 00:11:34,880 Speaker 1: than expected play out of your secondary, you're back where 214 00:11:34,920 --> 00:11:37,360 Speaker 1: you worry last year, and you team him with Kelvin Benjamin. 215 00:11:37,440 --> 00:11:40,880 Speaker 1: Suddenly Cam Newton has by far the strongest receiving corps 216 00:11:40,920 --> 00:11:44,000 Speaker 1: he's ever had. And I would imagine if that's another 217 00:11:44,040 --> 00:11:46,640 Speaker 1: situation where the Texans say, here's an option Caroline as 218 00:11:46,640 --> 00:11:49,080 Speaker 1: a place you could go, he might be willing to 219 00:11:49,120 --> 00:11:53,439 Speaker 1: rework that contract that all Carolinas that often happens. And 220 00:11:53,480 --> 00:11:55,839 Speaker 1: by the way, if Andrew Johnson goes to the Patriots, 221 00:11:55,920 --> 00:11:59,600 Speaker 1: I quit. I quit this job, I quit this podcast, 222 00:11:59,600 --> 00:12:02,079 Speaker 1: I quit being a Jets fan, I quit everything. I 223 00:12:02,160 --> 00:12:05,760 Speaker 1: might quit life. Well, you'd have to say that if 224 00:12:05,760 --> 00:12:08,080 Speaker 1: they find a way to add Durrell Revus on defense 225 00:12:08,440 --> 00:12:13,160 Speaker 1: and Andre Johnson to that offense, it's for Patriots fans 226 00:12:13,160 --> 00:12:14,960 Speaker 1: that I've already been seen on Twitter like, oh, go 227 00:12:15,120 --> 00:12:19,720 Speaker 1: get Andre new England Boston fans who have for years 228 00:12:19,800 --> 00:12:22,640 Speaker 1: chastised Yankees fans were always saying, whatever the big athlete 229 00:12:22,720 --> 00:12:24,480 Speaker 1: that comes up on the market, Oh, the Yankee fans like, 230 00:12:24,559 --> 00:12:27,680 Speaker 1: go get him. You are the Yankees Patriots fans deal 231 00:12:27,720 --> 00:12:31,080 Speaker 1: with that. You don't always get what you want. You try, 232 00:12:31,160 --> 00:12:34,440 Speaker 1: sometimes you just might find get what you need. Bang. 233 00:12:34,559 --> 00:12:36,680 Speaker 1: All right, let's move on. Let's do another Texans note. 234 00:12:37,120 --> 00:12:41,240 Speaker 1: Um Brian Cushing Uh. This is obviously a much lesser 235 00:12:41,400 --> 00:12:44,040 Speaker 1: a news level than the Andre Johnson situation that which 236 00:12:44,080 --> 00:12:47,560 Speaker 1: has become a very real story at this point. Brian Cushing, however, 237 00:12:47,880 --> 00:12:51,160 Speaker 1: of course, suffered another season ending knee injury or season 238 00:12:51,240 --> 00:12:54,360 Speaker 1: ending leg injury last year. A broken leg and a 239 00:12:54,440 --> 00:12:58,080 Speaker 1: torn l c L suffered last October uh Cushing speaking 240 00:12:58,120 --> 00:13:02,520 Speaker 1: positively and optimistically about being ready for the Texans opener. 241 00:13:02,559 --> 00:13:06,280 Speaker 1: In fact, the linebacker said, I know I'll be ready. Um, 242 00:13:06,400 --> 00:13:08,800 Speaker 1: I want to I've included this in the round for 243 00:13:08,800 --> 00:13:10,040 Speaker 1: one reason. I just want to throw it out to 244 00:13:10,040 --> 00:13:12,360 Speaker 1: you guys. Andre Johnson wants out of town and all that, 245 00:13:12,400 --> 00:13:14,160 Speaker 1: and I know they don't have a quarterback, so there's 246 00:13:14,200 --> 00:13:17,320 Speaker 1: issues there. But are we sleeping on the Texans defense? 247 00:13:17,480 --> 00:13:22,000 Speaker 1: Chance to become like Studley very quickly? If Jadeveon Clowney 248 00:13:22,200 --> 00:13:25,079 Speaker 1: is hits immediately and then you have the best defensive 249 00:13:25,080 --> 00:13:26,720 Speaker 1: player in the world and J. J. Watt, and if 250 00:13:26,760 --> 00:13:29,160 Speaker 1: Cushing comes back and Cushing is the god that he 251 00:13:29,280 --> 00:13:31,800 Speaker 1: was before he started getting hurt, this defense could be 252 00:13:31,920 --> 00:13:36,840 Speaker 1: very good. Correct. I think July? If season well, yeah, 253 00:13:36,880 --> 00:13:38,720 Speaker 1: I get tweets all the time from fans saying, well, 254 00:13:38,760 --> 00:13:41,320 Speaker 1: if this happens, and if that happens, this this could 255 00:13:41,320 --> 00:13:42,839 Speaker 1: be the team to beat. All right, let's go over 256 00:13:42,880 --> 00:13:46,680 Speaker 1: the Texans are Yeah, if Cushing stays healthy, if Clowney 257 00:13:46,720 --> 00:13:51,240 Speaker 1: becomes a double digit sack guy right off the bat, 258 00:13:51,800 --> 00:13:55,080 Speaker 1: if d J. Sweeringer becomes a Pro Bowl caliber safety, 259 00:13:55,080 --> 00:13:58,200 Speaker 1: which he has that potential. If Jonathan Joseph plays like 260 00:13:58,200 --> 00:14:01,800 Speaker 1: he did three years ago instead of the last two years. Yeah, 261 00:14:01,800 --> 00:14:05,480 Speaker 1: there's a lot of ifs there, and actually sacks the 262 00:14:05,559 --> 00:14:07,480 Speaker 1: quarterback for the first time in his life. And if 263 00:14:07,520 --> 00:14:12,000 Speaker 1: they've replaced Ryan Fitzpatrick's body with a bionic super wonder 264 00:14:12,320 --> 00:14:15,480 Speaker 1: that looks like a bearded Ryan Fitzpatrick. Alright, but I'm 265 00:14:15,559 --> 00:14:18,080 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm talking about the defense. I I just 266 00:14:18,160 --> 00:14:20,080 Speaker 1: wonder because a lot of people aren't gonna be picking 267 00:14:20,160 --> 00:14:24,840 Speaker 1: much or aren't excited about the Texans. If this defense 268 00:14:24,920 --> 00:14:27,760 Speaker 1: becomes what it has the potential to be, they might 269 00:14:27,800 --> 00:14:29,600 Speaker 1: not be as bad as people think. And if fitz 270 00:14:29,640 --> 00:14:32,360 Speaker 1: Patrick ever plays even half decent, which I'm not going 271 00:14:32,400 --> 00:14:35,200 Speaker 1: to bank on, they could be in the running for 272 00:14:35,240 --> 00:14:38,560 Speaker 1: a playoff spot. I don't think any Ryan Fitzpatrick quarterbacked 273 00:14:38,640 --> 00:14:40,600 Speaker 1: team is ever going to have more than six wins 274 00:14:40,600 --> 00:14:44,760 Speaker 1: in a season. Well, the dark horse situation there is 275 00:14:44,800 --> 00:14:46,560 Speaker 1: that they have a coordinator who is one of the 276 00:14:46,640 --> 00:14:48,880 Speaker 1: veteran football when he has the tools, he hasn't really 277 00:14:49,080 --> 00:14:52,720 Speaker 1: Romeo Cornell hasn't had the I think he's I think 278 00:14:52,720 --> 00:14:54,600 Speaker 1: he did an excellent job with the Chiefs before they 279 00:14:54,640 --> 00:14:57,200 Speaker 1: made him head coach. I mean, I think he's he 280 00:14:57,320 --> 00:14:59,520 Speaker 1: is a good defensive coordinator. I think at a head 281 00:14:59,520 --> 00:15:02,200 Speaker 1: coach that a whole different situation. But when he said coach, 282 00:15:02,200 --> 00:15:05,120 Speaker 1: he's still running the defense, I think we know. It's 283 00:15:05,120 --> 00:15:06,800 Speaker 1: a little harder when you have to do everything that 284 00:15:06,840 --> 00:15:09,280 Speaker 1: they asked Romeo to do. That he wasn't really capable 285 00:15:09,280 --> 00:15:11,480 Speaker 1: of that. But you give him these tools with Houston, 286 00:15:11,720 --> 00:15:14,640 Speaker 1: he's capable of turning the flipping the switch there. Mark, 287 00:15:14,640 --> 00:15:19,240 Speaker 1: put your Tenard Jackson jersey back in the closet. Wasn't 288 00:15:19,240 --> 00:15:23,239 Speaker 1: aware I owned one that Washington Redskins safety was reinstated 289 00:15:23,240 --> 00:15:27,520 Speaker 1: by the NFL two months ago after his third suspension 290 00:15:27,600 --> 00:15:32,200 Speaker 1: for substances abuse violating the league's policy. It was announced 291 00:15:32,320 --> 00:15:35,600 Speaker 1: on Wednesday that the Redskins safety it again been suspended, 292 00:15:35,640 --> 00:15:38,720 Speaker 1: this time indefinitely, for again violating the league's policy and 293 00:15:38,760 --> 00:15:42,440 Speaker 1: substance abuse. Um, West, as you said downstairs, this wasn't 294 00:15:42,480 --> 00:15:44,880 Speaker 1: a guy that probably was in the mix to make 295 00:15:44,920 --> 00:15:46,760 Speaker 1: a big difference for the Redskins this year. But they 296 00:15:46,760 --> 00:15:49,000 Speaker 1: thought enough of him to give him a chance and 297 00:15:49,040 --> 00:15:51,440 Speaker 1: bring him back and or at least into camp. It's 298 00:15:51,440 --> 00:15:53,400 Speaker 1: more kind of to me like a sad story a 299 00:15:53,440 --> 00:15:56,240 Speaker 1: guy that just cannot get it together. To me, it's 300 00:15:56,480 --> 00:15:59,920 Speaker 1: a reason to make fun of resident Redskins homer Mike 301 00:16:00,040 --> 00:16:04,200 Speaker 1: Coppinger in our news room every July between Independence Day 302 00:16:04,200 --> 00:16:07,720 Speaker 1: and Fast Steel Day, he erases Townard Jackson's name from 303 00:16:07,720 --> 00:16:10,800 Speaker 1: his projected Redskins starting lineup, even though the guy hasn't 304 00:16:10,800 --> 00:16:13,160 Speaker 1: played since two thousand and one. Yeah, he played five 305 00:16:13,160 --> 00:16:15,320 Speaker 1: seasons with the Bucks. Is actually a half decent player 306 00:16:15,360 --> 00:16:17,640 Speaker 1: with them. Uh. Here's the quote that he told to 307 00:16:17,680 --> 00:16:21,160 Speaker 1: the Tampa Tribune less month. Going from playing football to 308 00:16:21,240 --> 00:16:23,160 Speaker 1: working in a warehouse at a nine to five job 309 00:16:23,240 --> 00:16:26,000 Speaker 1: is a humbling experience. It's taught me to never take 310 00:16:26,280 --> 00:16:31,760 Speaker 1: anything in this business for granted. Good job by you, buddy, 311 00:16:32,120 --> 00:16:36,760 Speaker 1: JA Michael Finley Jre. Michael Finley still hoping to return 312 00:16:36,800 --> 00:16:39,200 Speaker 1: to the Green Bay Packers. The tight end, who, of 313 00:16:39,200 --> 00:16:42,560 Speaker 1: course is uh suffered a career threatening neck injury in 314 00:16:42,560 --> 00:16:48,120 Speaker 1: October one that required surgery. Um told ESPN Wisconsin's Jason 315 00:16:48,120 --> 00:16:50,720 Speaker 1: Wilde on Wednesday that his neck is in great shape 316 00:16:50,720 --> 00:16:52,560 Speaker 1: now and he still hopes to return to Green Bay. 317 00:16:52,560 --> 00:16:55,160 Speaker 1: Here's the quote. This is the best I've felt in 318 00:16:55,240 --> 00:16:59,120 Speaker 1: this entire crazy process. Tell everybody I'm working as hard 319 00:16:59,160 --> 00:17:02,960 Speaker 1: as I can to get back to pack Nation. I mean, 320 00:17:03,160 --> 00:17:04,720 Speaker 1: Mark was shaking his head there. I want to hear 321 00:17:04,720 --> 00:17:06,200 Speaker 1: what he has to say. No, I mean I would 322 00:17:06,240 --> 00:17:08,359 Speaker 1: love to see Finny get back. But in terms of 323 00:17:08,440 --> 00:17:11,399 Speaker 1: reuniting with Green Bay, he can say is next in 324 00:17:11,440 --> 00:17:13,719 Speaker 1: great shape. There obviously hoops to jump through. He's got 325 00:17:13,760 --> 00:17:16,400 Speaker 1: to get cleared by a team that historically has been 326 00:17:16,440 --> 00:17:19,040 Speaker 1: really tough in terms of clearing players with neck injuries. 327 00:17:19,040 --> 00:17:20,600 Speaker 1: They're not willing to do that. So so you have 328 00:17:20,720 --> 00:17:24,320 Speaker 1: a track record of making judgments upon injuries and predictions 329 00:17:24,320 --> 00:17:27,040 Speaker 1: of injuries. I will ask you now give me a 330 00:17:27,119 --> 00:17:30,800 Speaker 1: sessler J Michael Finley. Will he play in the NFL again? Yes? 331 00:17:31,320 --> 00:17:34,200 Speaker 1: I hope you're right. I took a lot less from 332 00:17:34,280 --> 00:17:37,439 Speaker 1: him saying he feels better that to me, he's been 333 00:17:37,480 --> 00:17:40,360 Speaker 1: saying that all along. This was the first time I thought, 334 00:17:40,480 --> 00:17:42,359 Speaker 1: if he comes back, it will definitely be for the 335 00:17:42,359 --> 00:17:45,200 Speaker 1: Packers and not someone else. Right, do you think that 336 00:17:45,200 --> 00:17:48,040 Speaker 1: that the team the list of teams that expressed interest, 337 00:17:48,080 --> 00:17:51,120 Speaker 1: and there were a couple of them, Packers, Seahawks, Dealers, Raiders, 338 00:17:52,520 --> 00:17:55,160 Speaker 1: might be just the Packers that those teams have decided 339 00:17:55,160 --> 00:17:57,720 Speaker 1: they're not interested in Yeah, I think those teams have 340 00:17:57,880 --> 00:18:01,680 Speaker 1: gone in other directions, whereas the Packers have said McCarthy said, 341 00:18:01,680 --> 00:18:05,000 Speaker 1: I still picture mc finley as a Packer. Uh. Someone 342 00:18:05,040 --> 00:18:07,880 Speaker 1: in the front office said, we're keeping the door open now. 343 00:18:07,920 --> 00:18:11,520 Speaker 1: Their third round rookie Richard Rodgers was also deemed one 344 00:18:11,560 --> 00:18:13,800 Speaker 1: of the m v ps of offseason practices. So maybe 345 00:18:13,840 --> 00:18:15,880 Speaker 1: the Packers aren't in any hurry to get Finley back 346 00:18:15,880 --> 00:18:18,320 Speaker 1: in there. All right, it's July, so we'll move forward 347 00:18:18,359 --> 00:18:20,800 Speaker 1: with some positive hype. The hype train, the if train 348 00:18:20,920 --> 00:18:24,240 Speaker 1: is rolling. THEO Reddick has pro Bowl potential. This according 349 00:18:24,280 --> 00:18:28,200 Speaker 1: to Detroit Lions teammates Joike Bell. Uh. Here's a quote 350 00:18:28,240 --> 00:18:31,040 Speaker 1: from Bell. His body is in great shape, probably seven 351 00:18:31,040 --> 00:18:33,840 Speaker 1: percent body flat fat. You see his route running from 352 00:18:33,920 --> 00:18:37,159 Speaker 1: out the backfield, it's really crisp. He looks like Reggie Bush. 353 00:18:37,560 --> 00:18:42,400 Speaker 1: Lions quarterback Dan Orlovsky also raved about Riddick, saying that 354 00:18:42,480 --> 00:18:46,080 Speaker 1: he could play the Darren Sproles role in the Detroit 355 00:18:46,160 --> 00:18:50,560 Speaker 1: Lions offense. Your thoughts on this, Chris Wessel, Riddick has 356 00:18:50,600 --> 00:18:52,719 Speaker 1: my attention. Now. You know I've been chalking this all 357 00:18:52,800 --> 00:18:56,280 Speaker 1: up to hype. Uh. They have a crowded backfield. Joyke 358 00:18:56,320 --> 00:18:58,600 Speaker 1: Bell is good. They gave him an extension in the offseason. 359 00:18:58,600 --> 00:19:02,320 Speaker 1: Reggie Bush is there. But if Joe Lombardi comes in 360 00:19:02,359 --> 00:19:05,040 Speaker 1: from the Saints offense, he's now the coordinator, and it 361 00:19:05,080 --> 00:19:08,520 Speaker 1: looks like they want a three headed backfield. They've teammates 362 00:19:08,560 --> 00:19:10,879 Speaker 1: have said to a man that Riddick was uncoverable in 363 00:19:10,880 --> 00:19:14,240 Speaker 1: offseason practices. To me, that's not a huge surprise because 364 00:19:14,240 --> 00:19:16,720 Speaker 1: he's a guy who does well in space, and those 365 00:19:16,720 --> 00:19:18,560 Speaker 1: guys tend to shine in the off season when there's 366 00:19:18,560 --> 00:19:21,520 Speaker 1: no contact. Let's see what he does in tight quarters. 367 00:19:21,560 --> 00:19:24,640 Speaker 1: But if you look at this offense, now you've upgraded 368 00:19:24,680 --> 00:19:28,119 Speaker 1: running back with Riddick taking on a bigger role. Reggie 369 00:19:28,160 --> 00:19:31,639 Speaker 1: Bush is healthier, You've got Golden Tape, a major upgrade 370 00:19:31,640 --> 00:19:34,720 Speaker 1: opposite Calvin Johnson. You've got Eric Ebron as your past 371 00:19:34,760 --> 00:19:37,679 Speaker 1: catching tight end. They might have a better offense than 372 00:19:37,680 --> 00:19:40,040 Speaker 1: the Saints. You never know, well, and it is another 373 00:19:40,080 --> 00:19:43,320 Speaker 1: example of how when you make a coordinator switch and 374 00:19:43,359 --> 00:19:47,000 Speaker 1: they come from a proven program like Lombardi has, that 375 00:19:47,080 --> 00:19:49,000 Speaker 1: it can change the fortunes of a guy like Riddick 376 00:19:49,080 --> 00:19:51,919 Speaker 1: because there probably wasn't a role for him last season 377 00:19:52,000 --> 00:19:53,760 Speaker 1: or what would have been had they continued on with 378 00:19:53,800 --> 00:19:57,440 Speaker 1: their staff. But now suddenly he's being used the right way. 379 00:19:57,720 --> 00:20:00,080 Speaker 1: And that Saints team had a crowded backfield forever, so 380 00:20:00,119 --> 00:20:01,960 Speaker 1: they've shown they can make it work to some degree. 381 00:20:02,160 --> 00:20:05,600 Speaker 1: It's gonna drive fantasy football players absolutely nuts because you 382 00:20:05,600 --> 00:20:07,560 Speaker 1: have no idea what's gonna happen to Reggie Bush week 383 00:20:07,600 --> 00:20:09,640 Speaker 1: to week, or really any of these guys. In terms 384 00:20:09,640 --> 00:20:12,439 Speaker 1: of consistency, the Lions have my attention a little bit 385 00:20:12,480 --> 00:20:14,760 Speaker 1: and the team of a t L talk. I wish 386 00:20:14,840 --> 00:20:16,680 Speaker 1: they had upgraded the defense a little bit. And I 387 00:20:16,840 --> 00:20:19,399 Speaker 1: know that Mark finds them to be a kind of 388 00:20:19,440 --> 00:20:21,320 Speaker 1: a boring team. In addition to the Dome, They've just 389 00:20:21,400 --> 00:20:23,480 Speaker 1: always been kind of a boring team, and I agree 390 00:20:23,520 --> 00:20:25,240 Speaker 1: with that. I don't know if i'd call them boring. 391 00:20:25,480 --> 00:20:28,400 Speaker 1: AI Yes, I wish they did not play indoors. But secondly, 392 00:20:28,960 --> 00:20:32,240 Speaker 1: last year they just absolutely crumbled. But you know what, 393 00:20:32,320 --> 00:20:35,800 Speaker 1: this is an entire season. I was really excited about them. 394 00:20:35,920 --> 00:20:38,359 Speaker 1: Defenses were having a hard time covering Reggie Bush and 395 00:20:38,400 --> 00:20:40,720 Speaker 1: Calvin Johnson at the same time. Now, if you throw 396 00:20:40,760 --> 00:20:44,360 Speaker 1: in Taiton, Eric Ebron and Riddick, you're talking about an offense. 397 00:20:44,680 --> 00:20:46,719 Speaker 1: Remember a couple of years back when Stafford closed out 398 00:20:46,760 --> 00:20:48,680 Speaker 1: the season averaging like four hundred yards a game for 399 00:20:48,760 --> 00:20:51,320 Speaker 1: a five or six game stretch into the playoffs as 400 00:20:51,320 --> 00:20:54,000 Speaker 1: well in a loss to the Saints. This offense could 401 00:20:54,040 --> 00:20:56,320 Speaker 1: do that kind of stuff. One other thing Jim called, well, 402 00:20:56,440 --> 00:20:58,360 Speaker 1: don't sleep on what he did for the Ravens during 403 00:20:58,400 --> 00:21:01,040 Speaker 1: the Super Bowl run. And I think that he's being 404 00:21:01,119 --> 00:21:03,679 Speaker 1: discounted for what he did with the Cults as a 405 00:21:03,680 --> 00:21:06,280 Speaker 1: guy that maybe not one of the more electrifying coaches. 406 00:21:06,320 --> 00:21:09,000 Speaker 1: But you're right, the talent upgrade in a few months 407 00:21:09,200 --> 00:21:12,840 Speaker 1: is well no, but he you know what in person, 408 00:21:12,960 --> 00:21:14,800 Speaker 1: because we've got the chance to see him in person 409 00:21:14,840 --> 00:21:17,440 Speaker 1: a few times, I would disagree with that assessment. He 410 00:21:17,560 --> 00:21:20,800 Speaker 1: showed a considerable passion and he was quite he was 411 00:21:21,040 --> 00:21:23,000 Speaker 1: like just like his eyes bugging out and he's pumping 412 00:21:23,040 --> 00:21:25,640 Speaker 1: his usin as he's talking to you. He's a charmer 413 00:21:25,840 --> 00:21:31,960 Speaker 1: next topic, like he was for instance in Orlando. He's 414 00:21:32,040 --> 00:21:35,280 Speaker 1: one of the few coaches that actually answered questions directly 415 00:21:36,680 --> 00:21:39,119 Speaker 1: that he didn't mince words. He gave direct answers, and 416 00:21:39,160 --> 00:21:41,159 Speaker 1: I think he knows what he's doing this time around. 417 00:21:41,400 --> 00:21:44,400 Speaker 1: That's a page on the Gettleman book. By the way, 418 00:21:44,400 --> 00:21:46,280 Speaker 1: I like that you guys, for people who don't listen 419 00:21:46,320 --> 00:21:49,640 Speaker 1: to the podcast are new listeners, I should say, when 420 00:21:49,680 --> 00:21:52,119 Speaker 1: you matter fact, we mentioned that they play indoors as 421 00:21:52,119 --> 00:21:54,399 Speaker 1: a reason why you shouldn't be excited about them. I 422 00:21:54,480 --> 00:21:56,720 Speaker 1: like that in a vacuum people that maybe haven't heard 423 00:21:56,720 --> 00:21:58,640 Speaker 1: you talk about that before and be like, wait, what 424 00:21:59,400 --> 00:22:02,240 Speaker 1: very fit? I think anyone who has watched football for 425 00:22:02,280 --> 00:22:04,960 Speaker 1: any amount of time would connect with that comment immediately. 426 00:22:05,400 --> 00:22:07,920 Speaker 1: Mark doesn't like indoor teams. Who who wants to watch 427 00:22:07,920 --> 00:22:11,680 Speaker 1: football in a grade school hallway? Nobody? I mean, that's 428 00:22:11,680 --> 00:22:15,040 Speaker 1: the same thing as a dome. It's the same aime ambiance. Finally, 429 00:22:15,080 --> 00:22:18,520 Speaker 1: no players are picked in the supplemental Draft. On Thursday, 430 00:22:18,800 --> 00:22:22,960 Speaker 1: our own Handsome Hank, the notorious d O p Um 431 00:22:23,119 --> 00:22:26,280 Speaker 1: wrote his annual mock Supplemental Draft, which is always the 432 00:22:26,320 --> 00:22:29,560 Speaker 1: greatest piece on NFL dot com. He predicted I believe 433 00:22:29,600 --> 00:22:32,520 Speaker 1: every team would pass, but one turned out everyone passed. 434 00:22:32,760 --> 00:22:35,400 Speaker 1: For the second straight years, no players were picked. All 435 00:22:35,440 --> 00:22:37,480 Speaker 1: four of the players that were available in the supplemental 436 00:22:37,560 --> 00:22:41,920 Speaker 1: Draft are now free agents. Hanks accuracy ratings still over 437 00:22:42,880 --> 00:22:45,800 Speaker 1: on the supplemental mock draft. The highest guy he had 438 00:22:45,920 --> 00:22:47,840 Speaker 1: rated was a running back that had like a hundred 439 00:22:47,840 --> 00:22:50,320 Speaker 1: and nineties seven yards last year and was leaving school 440 00:22:50,320 --> 00:22:52,920 Speaker 1: because he had been essentially kicked off the team. So 441 00:22:53,240 --> 00:22:55,520 Speaker 1: not a guy you're Katy. You're not gonna drop a 442 00:22:55,520 --> 00:22:58,400 Speaker 1: fist six round pick for this player to be taken 443 00:22:58,440 --> 00:23:04,480 Speaker 1: in the supplemental drafty, Josh Gordon, Well, don't forget Harvey Unga. 444 00:23:05,520 --> 00:23:11,520 Speaker 1: He swapped CAUs with people. Josh Gordon, I mean, yes, yeah, yeah, 445 00:23:11,520 --> 00:23:14,159 Speaker 1: that was a weird day. All right, Let's do some 446 00:23:14,200 --> 00:23:17,240 Speaker 1: top one talk. Peyton Man and came in at number 447 00:23:17,320 --> 00:23:23,840 Speaker 1: one on the list voted by the players. The top 448 00:23:23,880 --> 00:23:27,840 Speaker 1: ten of the list is as follows, peyton Man and 449 00:23:27,880 --> 00:23:31,920 Speaker 1: Calvin Johnson, Tom Brady, Adrian Peterson, Lashawn McCoy at number five, 450 00:23:32,040 --> 00:23:36,199 Speaker 1: Drew Brees, Richard Sherman, Jamal Charles, A. J. Green, and 451 00:23:36,240 --> 00:23:39,080 Speaker 1: at number ten Jimmy Graham. I believe Wes, you had 452 00:23:39,160 --> 00:23:42,359 Speaker 1: Jimmy Graham ten on your list that we discussed, or 453 00:23:42,440 --> 00:23:45,320 Speaker 1: you had a ninth. You and the players same mind, 454 00:23:45,480 --> 00:23:48,480 Speaker 1: yes or no? No? They have a J. Green ninth 455 00:23:48,600 --> 00:23:52,000 Speaker 1: and Jlio Jones out of the top one. Oh yeah, 456 00:23:52,040 --> 00:23:54,000 Speaker 1: that's I wanted to set you up on that west 457 00:23:54,000 --> 00:23:58,240 Speaker 1: because you you obviously were very upset yesterday that because 458 00:23:58,280 --> 00:24:00,520 Speaker 1: you did the top ten snubs list of the top 459 00:24:00,560 --> 00:24:03,040 Speaker 1: one hundred, Julio Jones you didn't have on the list 460 00:24:03,320 --> 00:24:06,080 Speaker 1: just because and this is totally understandable. You would never 461 00:24:06,160 --> 00:24:08,120 Speaker 1: even fathom that he wouldn't have been on the list 462 00:24:08,160 --> 00:24:10,680 Speaker 1: at some point this season, but he wasn't on the 463 00:24:10,760 --> 00:24:13,040 Speaker 1: last It's blow with my mind. Julio Jones is one 464 00:24:13,040 --> 00:24:15,560 Speaker 1: of the top ten players in the NFL. I think 465 00:24:15,640 --> 00:24:17,120 Speaker 1: if you talked to a lot of people, they would 466 00:24:17,119 --> 00:24:19,359 Speaker 1: put him right behind Calvin Johnson on the wide receiver 467 00:24:19,440 --> 00:24:22,400 Speaker 1: pecking order. He makes the Falcon's offense go. You saw 468 00:24:22,440 --> 00:24:24,880 Speaker 1: what happens when he was out of the lineup. And 469 00:24:25,400 --> 00:24:28,199 Speaker 1: for all the listeners wondering if this is just a 470 00:24:28,240 --> 00:24:31,680 Speaker 1: compilation of two thousand thirteen stats, it's not. This list 471 00:24:31,760 --> 00:24:34,520 Speaker 1: is about expectations for the two thousand and fourteen season. 472 00:24:34,920 --> 00:24:37,440 Speaker 1: There's no reason why Julio Jones would not be expected 473 00:24:37,600 --> 00:24:40,560 Speaker 1: to bounce back to where he was before when Manning 474 00:24:41,040 --> 00:24:43,399 Speaker 1: was when he missed the entire season. He came in 475 00:24:43,440 --> 00:24:45,760 Speaker 1: on the next top one hundred and fifty, so that 476 00:24:45,800 --> 00:24:50,880 Speaker 1: logic doesn't hold true. Apparently logic and Mark you wrote 477 00:24:50,960 --> 00:24:55,320 Speaker 1: up the reaction piece to the top ten reveal. You 478 00:24:55,359 --> 00:24:58,080 Speaker 1: have mentioned up top that there were what was it, 479 00:24:58,160 --> 00:25:00,199 Speaker 1: three running backs in the top ten, which was is 480 00:25:00,760 --> 00:25:03,960 Speaker 1: interesting because at a time where as Chris Rustling wrote 481 00:25:03,960 --> 00:25:06,280 Speaker 1: about a few months back, running backs are getting paid 482 00:25:06,320 --> 00:25:12,280 Speaker 1: like kickers and punters the top ten according to the players, Well, 483 00:25:12,320 --> 00:25:14,840 Speaker 1: I think that they. I have no problem with players 484 00:25:14,880 --> 00:25:17,400 Speaker 1: looking at Atrian Peterson and saying I don't care what 485 00:25:17,440 --> 00:25:19,920 Speaker 1: position he plays, this is a once in a lifetime 486 00:25:20,000 --> 00:25:23,159 Speaker 1: special talent. They obviously think highly of Lashawn McCoy and 487 00:25:23,200 --> 00:25:25,399 Speaker 1: Jamal Charles. But I go back to the fact that 488 00:25:26,000 --> 00:25:30,280 Speaker 1: this voting process needited result where three running backs are 489 00:25:30,320 --> 00:25:33,120 Speaker 1: more valuable than Aaron Rodgers and a fleet of other 490 00:25:33,119 --> 00:25:35,840 Speaker 1: players that that came in lower. But what about not 491 00:25:35,960 --> 00:25:38,280 Speaker 1: so much your opinion but your thought and why the players? 492 00:25:39,080 --> 00:25:41,879 Speaker 1: My is there a situation where the players understand the 493 00:25:41,960 --> 00:25:44,879 Speaker 1: value of a running back in a much different way 494 00:25:44,920 --> 00:25:49,040 Speaker 1: than front offices do the value of a franchise type 495 00:25:49,080 --> 00:25:52,639 Speaker 1: foundation back like in Adrian Peterson, And you know, Jamal 496 00:25:52,760 --> 00:25:55,640 Speaker 1: Charles was a potential m v P candidate last year 497 00:25:55,800 --> 00:25:57,840 Speaker 1: that did it all for that offense for you know, 498 00:25:57,880 --> 00:26:00,119 Speaker 1: three quarters, as you can say the same thing for 499 00:26:00,200 --> 00:26:03,000 Speaker 1: lunch Lashan McCoy. Those seem like three guys you can't 500 00:26:03,000 --> 00:26:05,439 Speaker 1: go crazy about being in the top ten. They you 501 00:26:05,440 --> 00:26:07,760 Speaker 1: could almost say they play a different position than running 502 00:26:07,800 --> 00:26:11,199 Speaker 1: back because they're the only there's only what four or 503 00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:13,240 Speaker 1: five running backs in the entire NFL who play three 504 00:26:13,280 --> 00:26:16,200 Speaker 1: downs now, and those are three of them, So they 505 00:26:16,200 --> 00:26:18,560 Speaker 1: play a position, and then you have committee backs who 506 00:26:18,640 --> 00:26:21,760 Speaker 1: kind of come in for twenty snaps. Dan, I don't 507 00:26:21,760 --> 00:26:24,960 Speaker 1: disagree that the players are having I don't an issue 508 00:26:24,960 --> 00:26:26,520 Speaker 1: with the players seen it that way. I think it's 509 00:26:26,520 --> 00:26:29,040 Speaker 1: just that the parameters of this list, no matter who 510 00:26:29,080 --> 00:26:30,520 Speaker 1: you are, you're gonna see it differently than the guy 511 00:26:30,560 --> 00:26:32,760 Speaker 1: next to you. Maybe that's what they want. It's it's 512 00:26:32,800 --> 00:26:36,400 Speaker 1: good fodder for conversation. Um I did a piece on 513 00:26:36,440 --> 00:26:39,760 Speaker 1: Thursday kind of looking back on the last four years 514 00:26:39,800 --> 00:26:43,280 Speaker 1: of the Top one hundred, which UH started NFL Network 515 00:26:43,400 --> 00:26:46,720 Speaker 1: started it in two thousand eleven. Some interesting notes here. 516 00:26:47,280 --> 00:26:51,040 Speaker 1: Manning is one of twenty four players who have cracked 517 00:26:51,040 --> 00:26:55,159 Speaker 1: the Top one hundred in all four years. Um He, however, 518 00:26:55,280 --> 00:26:58,280 Speaker 1: is not the player with the most consistently high rate ranking. 519 00:26:58,320 --> 00:27:00,920 Speaker 1: Of course, he finished fifties. Mark said UH in two 520 00:27:01,000 --> 00:27:03,600 Speaker 1: thousand twelve, coming off that nicket Nick injury. Tom Brady 521 00:27:03,640 --> 00:27:06,800 Speaker 1: has really been the best player consistency wise for the rankings, 522 00:27:06,800 --> 00:27:10,600 Speaker 1: going three, four, four and one in the last four years. 523 00:27:10,880 --> 00:27:13,680 Speaker 1: Brady and Adrian Adrian Peterson are the only players who 524 00:27:13,680 --> 00:27:16,880 Speaker 1: have placed in the top ten every year. I find 525 00:27:16,920 --> 00:27:20,359 Speaker 1: that interesting. What other interesting note that we've touched on? UH? 526 00:27:20,520 --> 00:27:23,000 Speaker 1: Nothing sticks out in the minds of these voters like 527 00:27:23,040 --> 00:27:27,560 Speaker 1: a Super Bowl winning quarterback. Russell Wilson twenty, Joe Flacco nineteen, 528 00:27:27,600 --> 00:27:31,960 Speaker 1: Eli Manning thirty one, and Aaron Rodgers eleven all received 529 00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:34,800 Speaker 1: the big pop UH and moved up the list after 530 00:27:35,280 --> 00:27:39,439 Speaker 1: hoisting the Lombardi. Finally, gentleman, we talk a lot about 531 00:27:40,200 --> 00:27:42,359 Speaker 1: we talk a lot about what's wrong with the list. 532 00:27:42,680 --> 00:27:46,080 Speaker 1: So let's talk about how to fix the top one hundred. 533 00:27:46,520 --> 00:27:50,840 Speaker 1: Then I start with Chris Westling. You can take it 534 00:27:50,880 --> 00:27:54,440 Speaker 1: out of the hands of the players entirely, Yes, well 535 00:27:54,480 --> 00:27:56,880 Speaker 1: would I mean, I don't really you guys, I've said 536 00:27:56,880 --> 00:28:00,320 Speaker 1: this before. I don't really care what they think. How 537 00:28:00,359 --> 00:28:02,800 Speaker 1: are they qualified to vote on who's the best. They're 538 00:28:02,840 --> 00:28:06,960 Speaker 1: not the film of the like the team coming up, 539 00:28:07,080 --> 00:28:08,600 Speaker 1: but they don't watch the film and most of the 540 00:28:08,600 --> 00:28:11,560 Speaker 1: players in the league, so how do they know? I mean, 541 00:28:12,440 --> 00:28:15,679 Speaker 1: how how is it all right that Joe Flacco is 542 00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:18,639 Speaker 1: rated nineteenth a year ago, or that he's on the 543 00:28:18,680 --> 00:28:21,040 Speaker 1: list and Matt Ryan's not. I mean, these people I 544 00:28:21,040 --> 00:28:23,399 Speaker 1: don't even know which players they're interviewing for this, or 545 00:28:23,440 --> 00:28:24,919 Speaker 1: how is it right that Charles Clay is on the 546 00:28:24,920 --> 00:28:27,720 Speaker 1: list but not Jordan Cameron or Julius Thomas. Okay, so 547 00:28:27,920 --> 00:28:31,160 Speaker 1: how would you fix it? I would personally, if you're 548 00:28:31,160 --> 00:28:33,159 Speaker 1: asking how I would fix it, sir, I would put 549 00:28:33,200 --> 00:28:34,720 Speaker 1: it in the hands of the Round the League podcast. 550 00:28:35,240 --> 00:28:40,320 Speaker 1: Dog look at you, I like you're thinking, Mark. I. 551 00:28:40,320 --> 00:28:43,480 Speaker 1: I agree with with Wesley and on the first part 552 00:28:43,560 --> 00:28:45,600 Speaker 1: that the players are going to vote, and I think 553 00:28:45,680 --> 00:28:47,840 Speaker 1: it's interesting to hear the perspective as they plan for 554 00:28:47,880 --> 00:28:50,280 Speaker 1: these guys, and they see certain players differently than we 555 00:28:50,360 --> 00:28:54,440 Speaker 1: do statistically or on film potentially. But it's unclear to 556 00:28:54,520 --> 00:28:58,400 Speaker 1: me who's voting and how many for certain teams who 557 00:28:58,400 --> 00:29:02,240 Speaker 1: obviously are gonna be tilted towards certain opponents. It's just muddy. 558 00:29:02,320 --> 00:29:04,600 Speaker 1: It's you're calling it a list for the top of 559 00:29:04,840 --> 00:29:08,479 Speaker 1: two thousand fourteen, but at least half the people voting 560 00:29:08,640 --> 00:29:11,000 Speaker 1: are just judging on what just happened based on your 561 00:29:11,040 --> 00:29:13,680 Speaker 1: quarterbacks Super Bowl? Are you? So? What are you saying 562 00:29:13,720 --> 00:29:16,320 Speaker 1: what should be done? I think the best process would 563 00:29:16,360 --> 00:29:20,400 Speaker 1: be a mixture of some players, a mixture of some coaches, 564 00:29:20,680 --> 00:29:24,880 Speaker 1: some general managers, and maybe a mixture of analysts as well, 565 00:29:24,880 --> 00:29:28,920 Speaker 1: where you get different eyes, different ways of seen. I 566 00:29:28,960 --> 00:29:31,560 Speaker 1: completely agree. I thought that the piece that Mike Sando 567 00:29:31,680 --> 00:29:35,000 Speaker 1: did last week UH for ESPN about figuring out like 568 00:29:35,040 --> 00:29:37,680 Speaker 1: a tier system for quarterbacks. I thought the way he 569 00:29:37,720 --> 00:29:39,000 Speaker 1: did it was it would be a good way to 570 00:29:39,040 --> 00:29:41,080 Speaker 1: do the Top one hundred where you're taking in, like 571 00:29:41,120 --> 00:29:44,800 Speaker 1: you said, Mark, a lot of different voices. And I think, um, 572 00:29:44,840 --> 00:29:47,280 Speaker 1: if only to keep the players from saying, you know, 573 00:29:47,880 --> 00:29:50,320 Speaker 1: you know, casting doubt on the list by saying, oh, 574 00:29:50,360 --> 00:29:52,520 Speaker 1: they don't know anything, they never play, you know, you 575 00:29:52,720 --> 00:29:54,760 Speaker 1: get them in the mix two and you and but 576 00:29:54,840 --> 00:29:57,440 Speaker 1: you get more consistent about it, I think a problem. 577 00:29:57,480 --> 00:30:00,560 Speaker 1: And Richard Sherman even hinted at this when talking about 578 00:30:00,640 --> 00:30:02,880 Speaker 1: his issues with the Top one hundred yesterday. He told 579 00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:05,480 Speaker 1: NFL Network that you know he's never seen a ballot, 580 00:30:05,720 --> 00:30:08,200 Speaker 1: so you know what, you know things. They need to 581 00:30:08,240 --> 00:30:10,240 Speaker 1: do a better job getting the ballots in the hands 582 00:30:10,280 --> 00:30:13,160 Speaker 1: of people that vote, not just one team that votes 583 00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:15,440 Speaker 1: heavily and gets Charles Clay on the list, which is 584 00:30:15,480 --> 00:30:17,520 Speaker 1: something I believe happened. And one thing to note, it's 585 00:30:17,600 --> 00:30:19,720 Speaker 1: we're not going after the players here. I don't think 586 00:30:19,760 --> 00:30:23,400 Speaker 1: anyone complains about this list more than the players, so 587 00:30:23,440 --> 00:30:26,440 Speaker 1: they can't be happy with how the process is. If 588 00:30:26,440 --> 00:30:29,240 Speaker 1: the players are involved, you need a select group of 589 00:30:29,280 --> 00:30:33,560 Speaker 1: studious players, not every player who doesn't take the period. 590 00:30:33,720 --> 00:30:35,520 Speaker 1: There's a lot of them that I'm sure aren't taking 591 00:30:35,560 --> 00:30:39,160 Speaker 1: this that seriously, just voting for teammates, you know, stuff 592 00:30:39,200 --> 00:30:41,600 Speaker 1: like that. But we I actually don't know that though 593 00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:43,880 Speaker 1: we don't know how they're voting. I think Charles Clay 594 00:30:43,880 --> 00:30:46,520 Speaker 1: getting on the list tells me that people are taking 595 00:30:46,520 --> 00:30:48,720 Speaker 1: it seriously or throwing the damn He had to have 596 00:30:48,720 --> 00:30:50,720 Speaker 1: gotten a top twenty vote to be that high on 597 00:30:50,760 --> 00:30:53,280 Speaker 1: the list. And if anybody put Charles Clay in the 598 00:30:53,320 --> 00:30:55,920 Speaker 1: top twenty, look, Charles Clay is a fine player. He's 599 00:30:55,920 --> 00:30:58,360 Speaker 1: probably one of the top players in the NFL. But 600 00:30:58,440 --> 00:31:02,040 Speaker 1: he's not better than Matt checks and balances. That's what 601 00:31:02,080 --> 00:31:05,360 Speaker 1: they need. Like if NFL Network gets a list back 602 00:31:05,400 --> 00:31:07,600 Speaker 1: from the player voting and Matt Ryan isn't on the list, 603 00:31:07,640 --> 00:31:10,960 Speaker 1: or Julio Jones or whoever whoever else has been snubb badly, 604 00:31:11,280 --> 00:31:13,400 Speaker 1: you have to rectify and this like you have just 605 00:31:13,640 --> 00:31:16,760 Speaker 1: equated us with the founding Fathers and turned the top 606 00:31:16,800 --> 00:31:22,120 Speaker 1: one hundred into the U S constitution. Bang, go ahead. Well, 607 00:31:22,120 --> 00:31:25,760 Speaker 1: like to Dan's point, yeah, you need. You need to 608 00:31:25,840 --> 00:31:29,000 Speaker 1: be barely alive right now. I'm hanging in there. They should. 609 00:31:29,040 --> 00:31:31,280 Speaker 1: You should be hooked up to the monitors. What you 610 00:31:31,360 --> 00:31:33,160 Speaker 1: need is a panel, like if you're if you're going 611 00:31:33,200 --> 00:31:35,560 Speaker 1: to get players, get players involved, get you know, a 612 00:31:35,720 --> 00:31:38,800 Speaker 1: rotating panel of ten to fifteen players each year, and 613 00:31:38,840 --> 00:31:40,760 Speaker 1: make that a big dude too, like who the players me? 614 00:31:40,840 --> 00:31:44,440 Speaker 1: Who are the players on this panel? And transparent you're 615 00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:48,840 Speaker 1: saying exactly because if you're going to complain, then you're 616 00:31:48,880 --> 00:31:51,240 Speaker 1: on the panel. And give them and whoever else votes 617 00:31:51,360 --> 00:31:53,640 Speaker 1: a chance to know what they're actually voting for. Because 618 00:31:53,680 --> 00:31:56,560 Speaker 1: the most maddening aspect of this list is last year 619 00:31:56,840 --> 00:31:59,280 Speaker 1: when Jimmy Graham isn't on it. But then when like 620 00:31:59,400 --> 00:32:01,600 Speaker 1: we said when and doesn't play he is on it, 621 00:32:01,640 --> 00:32:04,160 Speaker 1: but then suddenly bang, Julio Jones isn't on it. So 622 00:32:04,520 --> 00:32:06,640 Speaker 1: what are how are we judging them? Is it for 623 00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:10,080 Speaker 1: right now over their careers? Is it last season? Is 624 00:32:10,080 --> 00:32:12,600 Speaker 1: it going forward? How did Jimmy Grant go from not 625 00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:16,520 Speaker 1: one of the top overall? What the heck? I think 626 00:32:16,560 --> 00:32:19,440 Speaker 1: we've made it exceedingly clear that we should be leading 627 00:32:19,440 --> 00:32:22,160 Speaker 1: the charge here. That's I mean, that's it. Get out 628 00:32:22,160 --> 00:32:27,320 Speaker 1: the pitchfork, TD. Can you clip out this podcast and 629 00:32:27,400 --> 00:32:30,840 Speaker 1: send it to rog uh, send it to other high 630 00:32:30,920 --> 00:32:33,920 Speaker 1: level figures on Park Avenue as well as other boss 631 00:32:33,960 --> 00:32:36,760 Speaker 1: figures upstairs in this very building. I believe in those guys. 632 00:32:36,840 --> 00:32:41,840 Speaker 1: I believe it. All right, Let's move on. I like 633 00:32:41,960 --> 00:32:46,800 Speaker 1: that the boss very strategically not here for this conversation. Hey, 634 00:32:47,680 --> 00:32:50,120 Speaker 1: the whole thing. Let's move on to our making the 635 00:32:50,200 --> 00:32:53,360 Speaker 1: Leap series. We are down to the final four, gentlemen. 636 00:32:53,840 --> 00:32:56,120 Speaker 1: Will start with, as we said, two running backs to 637 00:32:56,320 --> 00:33:00,200 Speaker 1: fantasy entities. If that's your thing. Uh, We'll start with 638 00:33:00,320 --> 00:33:03,200 Speaker 1: number four on the list. He's the Pittsburgh Steelers second 639 00:33:03,240 --> 00:33:07,640 Speaker 1: year back Levy on Bell. I wrote about Bell yesterday 640 00:33:07,640 --> 00:33:08,920 Speaker 1: in the post that went up on the Around the 641 00:33:08,960 --> 00:33:10,880 Speaker 1: League page. By the way, you can access all the 642 00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:14,240 Speaker 1: Making the Leap candidates for by the A t L 643 00:33:14,280 --> 00:33:19,360 Speaker 1: team NFL dot com slash Making the Leap. And so 644 00:33:19,400 --> 00:33:22,840 Speaker 1: we'll start with Bell. Who you know? I My last 645 00:33:23,040 --> 00:33:26,560 Speaker 1: Making the Leap candidate was Monte Ball and uh I 646 00:33:26,680 --> 00:33:30,320 Speaker 1: came away a little bit hollow on Ball in terms 647 00:33:30,360 --> 00:33:33,840 Speaker 1: of being all in on his talent. I thought he 648 00:33:33,880 --> 00:33:36,360 Speaker 1: was a situation where he was in a great system 649 00:33:36,400 --> 00:33:38,520 Speaker 1: and that's gonna lead to him thriving. Bell I I 650 00:33:38,600 --> 00:33:41,200 Speaker 1: thought differently when watching the tape. I think that this 651 00:33:41,240 --> 00:33:44,280 Speaker 1: guy is a stud I think he came back from 652 00:33:44,440 --> 00:33:47,600 Speaker 1: that foot injury and it spoke volumes that the Steelers 653 00:33:47,640 --> 00:33:49,920 Speaker 1: instantly made him a key part of that offense. He 654 00:33:49,960 --> 00:33:52,160 Speaker 1: got better as the season went along, as he learned 655 00:33:52,160 --> 00:33:55,320 Speaker 1: how to play the position, how to play with Ben Roethlisberger, 656 00:33:55,360 --> 00:33:58,600 Speaker 1: the offense which took off using a more no huddle approach. 657 00:33:59,160 --> 00:34:01,840 Speaker 1: Bell's ability to hang tough in that type of offense, 658 00:34:01,840 --> 00:34:03,640 Speaker 1: which has to be tough to learn as a rookie, 659 00:34:04,200 --> 00:34:06,680 Speaker 1: is impressive. The guy is a receiver out of the backfield. 660 00:34:06,840 --> 00:34:10,239 Speaker 1: He could block. He has great great cutting ability and 661 00:34:10,320 --> 00:34:13,439 Speaker 1: great vision and you see a lot of plays where 662 00:34:13,440 --> 00:34:16,680 Speaker 1: his athleticism was clearly on display. He's also, you know, 663 00:34:16,719 --> 00:34:19,600 Speaker 1: he's got some size to him where you know, he 664 00:34:19,640 --> 00:34:23,799 Speaker 1: could maybe be that three down type back you bring 665 00:34:23,800 --> 00:34:26,760 Speaker 1: in Legarrett Blunt as a nice backup. I'm not worried 666 00:34:26,760 --> 00:34:29,640 Speaker 1: about a time share there. I think that Bell is 667 00:34:29,680 --> 00:34:32,160 Speaker 1: gonna be the man, and I think this guy is 668 00:34:32,160 --> 00:34:34,959 Speaker 1: gonna be a big time player for the Steelers, sort 669 00:34:34,960 --> 00:34:38,520 Speaker 1: of an evolutionary Steelers back. And he's not like a 670 00:34:38,520 --> 00:34:40,360 Speaker 1: scap back. He's not a home run hitter. He's not 671 00:34:40,360 --> 00:34:42,920 Speaker 1: gonna hit big plays. But if you put him out 672 00:34:42,920 --> 00:34:46,320 Speaker 1: there in cold weather, he's gonna run the ball twenty 673 00:34:46,360 --> 00:34:48,480 Speaker 1: times a game. He's gonna have a hundred yards at 674 00:34:48,480 --> 00:34:50,839 Speaker 1: the end of the game. And what I meant by 675 00:34:50,840 --> 00:34:53,080 Speaker 1: evolutionary is he catches the ball really well too, which 676 00:34:53,080 --> 00:34:56,560 Speaker 1: traditionally Steelers backs haven't done. Menden Hall was okay at it, 677 00:34:56,640 --> 00:34:58,600 Speaker 1: but this guy could be a little bit better than 678 00:34:58,600 --> 00:35:01,759 Speaker 1: menden Hall. I agree with Dan in the suggestion that 679 00:35:01,920 --> 00:35:04,120 Speaker 1: he's not gonna deal with the time share. I don't 680 00:35:04,120 --> 00:35:05,839 Speaker 1: think the Steelers are going to make him a guy 681 00:35:05,880 --> 00:35:08,560 Speaker 1: that sees the only touches in the game because you know, 682 00:35:08,600 --> 00:35:10,839 Speaker 1: at Pittsburgh and we expect them to be a much 683 00:35:10,880 --> 00:35:13,399 Speaker 1: better football this team this year, Blunts the perfect guy 684 00:35:13,440 --> 00:35:16,080 Speaker 1: to spell him down the stretch, to get him, you know, 685 00:35:16,280 --> 00:35:19,800 Speaker 1: rested for the playoffs. But I went back and watched 686 00:35:19,800 --> 00:35:21,719 Speaker 1: Bell last year myself towards the end of the year, 687 00:35:22,200 --> 00:35:24,200 Speaker 1: and I hadn't gotten a chance to watch a lot 688 00:35:24,239 --> 00:35:27,120 Speaker 1: of Steelers games live. Very impressive. What you say is 689 00:35:27,160 --> 00:35:29,440 Speaker 1: true about him, Dan, and I think that they their 690 00:35:29,520 --> 00:35:32,520 Speaker 1: season turned around largely because he was healthy and part 691 00:35:32,600 --> 00:35:35,480 Speaker 1: of that offense down the stretch. Made no secret that 692 00:35:35,600 --> 00:35:37,880 Speaker 1: in my personal power rankings for team of a t L, 693 00:35:38,320 --> 00:35:40,640 Speaker 1: the Steelers have a secretariat type of lead on the 694 00:35:40,640 --> 00:35:43,279 Speaker 1: rest of the pack. And part of the reason here 695 00:35:43,320 --> 00:35:45,080 Speaker 1: is that people don't understand how good they were at 696 00:35:45,080 --> 00:35:47,360 Speaker 1: the end of the year. They had the best record 697 00:35:47,400 --> 00:35:48,800 Speaker 1: in the a f C in the second half of 698 00:35:48,840 --> 00:35:51,759 Speaker 1: the season. Once Bell and Heath Miller got back in 699 00:35:51,800 --> 00:35:53,720 Speaker 1: the lineup and got healthy, they were a different team. 700 00:35:53,960 --> 00:35:56,680 Speaker 1: They averaged four more yards or four more points per 701 00:35:56,760 --> 00:35:58,960 Speaker 1: game than the Saints offense did in the second half 702 00:35:59,000 --> 00:36:01,399 Speaker 1: of the season. And you know, one thing you also 703 00:36:01,400 --> 00:36:05,080 Speaker 1: want to keep in mind is that the Steelers uncharacteristically, 704 00:36:05,080 --> 00:36:07,200 Speaker 1: they finished seven in the league in rushing and you 705 00:36:07,320 --> 00:36:11,080 Speaker 1: hear you heard all offseason Tomlin and Todd Hadley. Todd 706 00:36:11,120 --> 00:36:13,719 Speaker 1: Haley has spoken about the team committing to the run 707 00:36:13,719 --> 00:36:16,440 Speaker 1: and making sure this is an offensive was more balanced. 708 00:36:16,600 --> 00:36:18,480 Speaker 1: And I think that's gonna lead with them making a 709 00:36:18,520 --> 00:36:21,880 Speaker 1: concerted effort to make Bell a featured aspect of this 710 00:36:21,920 --> 00:36:24,279 Speaker 1: offense or continue to be really because I thought they 711 00:36:24,280 --> 00:36:26,359 Speaker 1: had done a nice job with that last year once 712 00:36:26,360 --> 00:36:29,360 Speaker 1: he got healthy. So I ask you, gentlemen, a little time, 713 00:36:29,680 --> 00:36:34,200 Speaker 1: a little projection time. Everybody loves projections, Uh, Levan Bell. 714 00:36:34,800 --> 00:36:36,360 Speaker 1: I think I made it clear that I'm very excited 715 00:36:36,360 --> 00:36:37,759 Speaker 1: about him, So these could be on the high end. 716 00:36:37,800 --> 00:36:38,800 Speaker 1: But I don't know. Maybe you guys are on the 717 00:36:38,840 --> 00:36:46,399 Speaker 1: same page as mere touches over because you said touches, Yeah, 718 00:36:46,440 --> 00:36:49,000 Speaker 1: you don't mean carries. Well, I mean touches, Mark. I 719 00:36:49,000 --> 00:36:52,480 Speaker 1: would go over. And then on that thirteen hundred rushing yards, 720 00:36:52,800 --> 00:36:56,000 Speaker 1: I'll go under. On rushing yards, I'll go under. One 721 00:36:56,040 --> 00:36:57,879 Speaker 1: thing that we heard about them is that they ran 722 00:36:58,000 --> 00:37:03,360 Speaker 1: two back sets during the entire offseason practice sessions, seventy receptions. 723 00:37:03,880 --> 00:37:07,560 Speaker 1: I'll go way under for that. Yeah, that that number. 724 00:37:07,560 --> 00:37:11,680 Speaker 1: That's bold by way under. I mean I'd go under 725 00:37:11,719 --> 00:37:15,720 Speaker 1: on that too. Twelve touchdowns total. I go under because 726 00:37:15,760 --> 00:37:19,000 Speaker 1: I could see he got concussed last year on a 727 00:37:19,000 --> 00:37:22,560 Speaker 1: goal line carry. I could see them Thanksgiving, right, I 728 00:37:22,560 --> 00:37:25,320 Speaker 1: could see them using Lagarret Blunt as their goal line hammer. 729 00:37:26,320 --> 00:37:28,200 Speaker 1: You know what, that's that's a fair point. I I 730 00:37:28,280 --> 00:37:30,239 Speaker 1: do believe that Bell was going to be their guy, 731 00:37:30,280 --> 00:37:33,200 Speaker 1: but Blunt could be one of those guys that Pilford's 732 00:37:33,239 --> 00:37:36,239 Speaker 1: touchdowns and drives fantasy owners crazy. I guess one thing 733 00:37:36,280 --> 00:37:38,560 Speaker 1: to keep in mind there. But yeah, I think we're 734 00:37:38,600 --> 00:37:40,440 Speaker 1: all on the same page. This guy can be a 735 00:37:40,440 --> 00:37:43,560 Speaker 1: pro Bowl level players. I'm going push on your twelve touchdowns. 736 00:37:43,640 --> 00:37:45,879 Speaker 1: I love when you go push. This is I gotta 737 00:37:45,880 --> 00:37:47,279 Speaker 1: throw that in there, Mark, What do you do with 738 00:37:47,360 --> 00:37:51,000 Speaker 1: Jim called all this weekend? Listen. I just don't like 739 00:37:52,160 --> 00:37:56,960 Speaker 1: dismissed without information. See what you're saying about Jim Caldwell. 740 00:37:57,000 --> 00:38:00,840 Speaker 1: By week eight, Jim called Well not a bad coach. 741 00:38:00,880 --> 00:38:02,600 Speaker 1: He was the offensive coordinator when the Ravens went to 742 00:38:02,640 --> 00:38:05,160 Speaker 1: the Super I just think he's just dismissed as like 743 00:38:05,239 --> 00:38:09,000 Speaker 1: a dull guy. And I don't think that that's accurate. Well, 744 00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:11,200 Speaker 1: that I'm going to challenge on because I actually spoke 745 00:38:11,200 --> 00:38:13,640 Speaker 1: with him as well at the Super Bowl after they won, 746 00:38:15,600 --> 00:38:17,040 Speaker 1: and he's in the locker room with me. I don't 747 00:38:17,040 --> 00:38:19,239 Speaker 1: think he was wearing a shirt, and it felt like 748 00:38:19,280 --> 00:38:21,839 Speaker 1: I was talking to Stanley from the office. I mean, 749 00:38:22,040 --> 00:38:25,520 Speaker 1: you know, very slow talking, very you know, obviously well 750 00:38:25,560 --> 00:38:28,200 Speaker 1: spoken and had great insight and was honest with me. 751 00:38:28,280 --> 00:38:32,040 Speaker 1: But yeah, I'm not I was that impression of him 752 00:38:32,040 --> 00:38:34,399 Speaker 1: when we were down in Orlando. But Dan does bring 753 00:38:34,480 --> 00:38:36,560 Speaker 1: up one of the weirder things about an NFL locker 754 00:38:36,640 --> 00:38:38,359 Speaker 1: room that you don't expect to see if you haven't 755 00:38:38,400 --> 00:38:41,560 Speaker 1: been in one before, is there's always these little tiny 756 00:38:42,160 --> 00:38:44,799 Speaker 1: cubicle area rooms off the way from the big room 757 00:38:44,960 --> 00:38:47,760 Speaker 1: with all the assistant coaches walking around in underwear together. 758 00:38:48,280 --> 00:38:50,640 Speaker 1: That takes I mean, that's what Dan confronted. So I 759 00:38:50,640 --> 00:38:59,520 Speaker 1: don't know. All right, let's get it's been a while 760 00:38:59,520 --> 00:39:02,440 Speaker 1: since we heard from Kevin Patra, so we'll close today's 761 00:39:02,480 --> 00:39:05,520 Speaker 1: podcast because we have number three on our list, uh A, 762 00:39:05,880 --> 00:39:09,719 Speaker 1: Cardinals running back Andre Ellington. Kevin Patrack wrote up the 763 00:39:09,920 --> 00:39:13,319 Speaker 1: Making the Leap on Ellington. So Kevin Patra on the 764 00:39:13,360 --> 00:39:18,560 Speaker 1: line Hey, buddy, how's it going. I don't know how 765 00:39:18,680 --> 00:39:24,520 Speaker 1: you doing. Already got an early button push, which you 766 00:39:24,560 --> 00:39:27,840 Speaker 1: know sometimes happens at a bar when we talked to 767 00:39:27,920 --> 00:39:31,359 Speaker 1: Kevin late on Sunday nights and in this case, where 768 00:39:31,400 --> 00:39:35,640 Speaker 1: are you right now? Buddy? Okay? Good, very good? Hey, 769 00:39:35,680 --> 00:39:39,160 Speaker 1: So making the lead number three the bronze medalists, I'm 770 00:39:39,160 --> 00:39:43,600 Speaker 1: gonna call it tie in third place. Olympic stuff. Cardinals 771 00:39:43,680 --> 00:39:47,040 Speaker 1: running back Andre Ellington, who you know, showed a lot 772 00:39:47,239 --> 00:39:50,120 Speaker 1: in a little bit of time last year with a 773 00:39:50,120 --> 00:39:53,480 Speaker 1: average rushing attempt are rushing attempts average of five and 774 00:39:53,480 --> 00:39:55,680 Speaker 1: a half yards per carry in just a hundred and 775 00:39:55,719 --> 00:39:59,520 Speaker 1: eighteen carries. A lot. Of course, Bruce Arians has hinted 776 00:39:59,600 --> 00:40:03,480 Speaker 1: of a much bigger workload for Andre Ellington, which means 777 00:40:03,600 --> 00:40:05,719 Speaker 1: he's going to make the leap according to the A 778 00:40:05,840 --> 00:40:09,360 Speaker 1: t L team. Kevin Patrick tell us more. Yeah, I 779 00:40:09,360 --> 00:40:11,360 Speaker 1: mean I think we were begging all last year to 780 00:40:11,400 --> 00:40:15,600 Speaker 1: see more of Ellington and Arians can kept walking at it, 781 00:40:15,760 --> 00:40:17,560 Speaker 1: although he did promise a couple of times to get 782 00:40:17,640 --> 00:40:19,719 Speaker 1: him bucked twenty carries, even though he never touched the 783 00:40:19,719 --> 00:40:22,000 Speaker 1: ball more than seventeen times in a game last year, 784 00:40:22,760 --> 00:40:25,799 Speaker 1: and then this offseason he changed his mind apparently and 785 00:40:25,840 --> 00:40:29,680 Speaker 1: decided he was gonna revolve the running game around Ellington, 786 00:40:29,760 --> 00:40:32,600 Speaker 1: which is the smart move. With Shard Mendeh Hall out 787 00:40:32,640 --> 00:40:35,000 Speaker 1: of the way, that made him easy, that decision much 788 00:40:35,000 --> 00:40:38,239 Speaker 1: easier for him. And this was ineen carries and he 789 00:40:38,280 --> 00:40:41,200 Speaker 1: said he was a big playing machine. He had eight 790 00:40:41,239 --> 00:40:43,480 Speaker 1: plays over twenty yards, which is up with the likes 791 00:40:43,960 --> 00:40:46,360 Speaker 1: of Adrian Peterson, who had double the amount of carries 792 00:40:46,400 --> 00:40:48,759 Speaker 1: that he had, well over double amount of carries he 793 00:40:48,800 --> 00:40:51,520 Speaker 1: has um and I just love the way he plays 794 00:40:51,560 --> 00:40:55,640 Speaker 1: the game. He can make moves and shifting in tight spaces. 795 00:40:55,719 --> 00:40:59,160 Speaker 1: He can break tackles on the outside. He's a game breaker. 796 00:40:59,560 --> 00:41:03,279 Speaker 1: Patch here's my reaction to Bruce arians saying Ellington will 797 00:41:03,280 --> 00:41:08,400 Speaker 1: get to thirty touches a game. What is your reaction, 798 00:41:09,239 --> 00:41:11,840 Speaker 1: he asked, foulis a liar. He admitted after the draft 799 00:41:11,880 --> 00:41:13,520 Speaker 1: that he's a good at Lyne that when he talked 800 00:41:13,520 --> 00:41:16,560 Speaker 1: about the quarterback situation, Oh, I do not think he's 801 00:41:16,600 --> 00:41:20,359 Speaker 1: going to get um touches again, that you don't think 802 00:41:20,360 --> 00:41:22,520 Speaker 1: that he'll get close to five hundred touches this season? 803 00:41:22,560 --> 00:41:24,640 Speaker 1: And you're gonna go out on a limb Kevin and 804 00:41:24,640 --> 00:41:26,719 Speaker 1: and say that Arians is a little off there. All right, 805 00:41:26,760 --> 00:41:30,160 Speaker 1: I got a better question. Tell me why Andre Ellington 806 00:41:30,320 --> 00:41:33,040 Speaker 1: isn't the next Jarius Norwood or Felix Jones or Leon 807 00:41:33,120 --> 00:41:36,680 Speaker 1: Washington where he's undersized. The team admitted he wasn't. He 808 00:41:36,719 --> 00:41:39,000 Speaker 1: didn't even have the right ability, was high cut, more 809 00:41:39,040 --> 00:41:41,319 Speaker 1: like a wide receiver than a running back. How is 810 00:41:41,320 --> 00:41:44,319 Speaker 1: he now going to be able to handle a heavy workload? Well, 811 00:41:44,320 --> 00:41:46,120 Speaker 1: I first of all, I think it depends on what 812 00:41:46,160 --> 00:41:48,799 Speaker 1: you define as a heavy workload. I mean, I think 813 00:41:48,800 --> 00:41:52,080 Speaker 1: he's more of a Reggie Buskit two thirty carry workload, 814 00:41:52,120 --> 00:41:53,759 Speaker 1: and he's going to catch a lot of the backfield. 815 00:41:54,040 --> 00:41:57,920 Speaker 1: He had two hundred two hundred and four some snaps 816 00:41:58,239 --> 00:42:01,400 Speaker 1: where he ran Ralph either out of the backfield or 817 00:42:01,400 --> 00:42:02,640 Speaker 1: they put him in the plot and they put him 818 00:42:02,680 --> 00:42:05,640 Speaker 1: the wide up. So I think when when you say workload, 819 00:42:05,680 --> 00:42:07,640 Speaker 1: I think it's going to be dispersed across the field, 820 00:42:07,800 --> 00:42:10,799 Speaker 1: which will help can stay healthy. And health is one 821 00:42:10,840 --> 00:42:13,399 Speaker 1: of the obstacles that we we were that I talked about. 822 00:42:13,440 --> 00:42:16,120 Speaker 1: He has to stay healthy, but there are other backs 823 00:42:16,120 --> 00:42:19,520 Speaker 1: that have done it. Reggie Bush not exactly a paragon 824 00:42:19,560 --> 00:42:23,480 Speaker 1: of durability, no, but I mean I don't. I mean 825 00:42:23,520 --> 00:42:25,320 Speaker 1: I haven't. I don't think he's gonna have a shortened 826 00:42:25,360 --> 00:42:27,879 Speaker 1: career where he had only get three yards matched here. 827 00:42:28,080 --> 00:42:30,040 Speaker 1: I think, like, I think this is a major issue 828 00:42:30,040 --> 00:42:32,200 Speaker 1: that the Cardinals need to think seriously, glad. I don't 829 00:42:32,200 --> 00:42:34,920 Speaker 1: think Ellington can handle this many touches and stay healthy 830 00:42:34,960 --> 00:42:37,560 Speaker 1: and productive. Well, question, I mean, are we have we 831 00:42:37,719 --> 00:42:40,399 Speaker 1: as an a rounded league team put them too high 832 00:42:40,400 --> 00:42:43,959 Speaker 1: on this list? If there's all these concerns about him, Well, 833 00:42:44,320 --> 00:42:46,840 Speaker 1: I think that I think that there's one concern. The 834 00:42:47,000 --> 00:42:52,719 Speaker 1: one main concern isn't perfect. I don't think that. I 835 00:42:52,760 --> 00:42:54,680 Speaker 1: don't think he's saying he can have two on or 836 00:42:54,719 --> 00:42:57,360 Speaker 1: thirty carriers is going too far. I really don't. I 837 00:42:57,360 --> 00:42:59,520 Speaker 1: think that's about the right the right amount, all right. 838 00:42:59,600 --> 00:43:02,240 Speaker 1: So with that in mind, let's do some over unders. 839 00:43:02,280 --> 00:43:07,160 Speaker 1: Two hundred and twenty five carries for Andre Ellington, Chris 840 00:43:07,200 --> 00:43:09,799 Speaker 1: Wesley way under. He'll be injured by October if they 841 00:43:09,840 --> 00:43:12,200 Speaker 1: put him on that kind of schedule. Okay, Mark Seesler, 842 00:43:13,480 --> 00:43:16,400 Speaker 1: I will go under, but not not with his aggressive 843 00:43:16,520 --> 00:43:19,440 Speaker 1: a nature. Is Chris just mentioned and Kevin you, I 844 00:43:19,480 --> 00:43:21,680 Speaker 1: assume you're going to go over I'll go over I 845 00:43:22,239 --> 00:43:26,000 Speaker 1: a little. That's fourteen carries a game. Okay, fourteen carries 846 00:43:26,040 --> 00:43:27,480 Speaker 1: a game. I don't even know if I have to 847 00:43:27,480 --> 00:43:31,160 Speaker 1: asked West they's anymore? But one thousand fifty rushing yards 848 00:43:31,200 --> 00:43:34,319 Speaker 1: Chris Wesley. I would go over on total yards, but 849 00:43:34,320 --> 00:43:39,400 Speaker 1: not rushing yards. Okay, Mark on the rushing yards under, Okay, 850 00:43:39,480 --> 00:43:43,000 Speaker 1: I will go over on both carries and yards. I'm in, uh, 851 00:43:43,120 --> 00:43:46,279 Speaker 1: Kevin Patrick, Oh yeah, I'm over. You're you're going right 852 00:43:46,360 --> 00:43:49,439 Speaker 1: up right around where I had. I guess he would 853 00:43:49,440 --> 00:43:52,920 Speaker 1: go all right. And then finally seven touchdowns Chris Westling 854 00:43:53,000 --> 00:43:59,719 Speaker 1: total touchsdowns. I'll go over for that. I will go under. 855 00:44:00,560 --> 00:44:08,279 Speaker 1: I will push. Can you throw out reception? Yeah? Yeah, 856 00:44:08,320 --> 00:44:11,080 Speaker 1: go ahead? Yeah, you know. I actually think under on 857 00:44:11,120 --> 00:44:13,680 Speaker 1: the touchdowns only because he's he doesn't get carried inside 858 00:44:13,719 --> 00:44:16,919 Speaker 1: the goal um, inside the red zone very much inside 859 00:44:16,960 --> 00:44:19,040 Speaker 1: the five yard line. He had like three last year, 860 00:44:19,160 --> 00:44:22,160 Speaker 1: so I think that'll still something out for those. Alright. Finally, 861 00:44:23,320 --> 00:44:27,719 Speaker 1: forty four catches Chris Wessel, I'll go over Mark, he 862 00:44:27,800 --> 00:44:34,240 Speaker 1: will have forty four catches catches. I will go under slightly, Kevin, 863 00:44:35,600 --> 00:44:37,800 Speaker 1: I will go over. Yeah, I think he's going to 864 00:44:37,840 --> 00:44:41,040 Speaker 1: bed he needs to be used more as a receiver 865 00:44:41,080 --> 00:44:44,759 Speaker 1: and less as a running back. Do you agree with that? 866 00:44:44,760 --> 00:44:47,880 Speaker 1: Past Yeah, no, I don't disagree with that. And I 867 00:44:48,239 --> 00:44:50,480 Speaker 1: just don't think that the workload that I'm considering it's 868 00:44:50,520 --> 00:44:52,759 Speaker 1: too much, because I don't it's not the three and 869 00:44:52,800 --> 00:44:55,680 Speaker 1: thirty carried that somebody with Shawn McCoy is gonna get. 870 00:44:55,760 --> 00:44:59,080 Speaker 1: He's gonna go out in the past patterns. So uh 871 00:44:59,320 --> 00:45:01,480 Speaker 1: arians talk about having a lot of two back sets 872 00:45:01,480 --> 00:45:03,759 Speaker 1: this year, and I think a lot of that is 873 00:45:03,800 --> 00:45:06,120 Speaker 1: to get to be able to fake the run and 874 00:45:06,200 --> 00:45:08,480 Speaker 1: use Ellington out of the backfield as a past patcher more. 875 00:45:08,880 --> 00:45:10,879 Speaker 1: But on the set the same token, he can run 876 00:45:10,920 --> 00:45:13,920 Speaker 1: the ball and in those sets he'll have a running 877 00:45:13,920 --> 00:45:16,120 Speaker 1: back into block and Ellington can go out on the 878 00:45:16,200 --> 00:45:18,919 Speaker 1: past with two widers in two wide receiver set alight. 879 00:45:18,920 --> 00:45:20,440 Speaker 1: I really think you're gonna see that a lot. We'll 880 00:45:20,440 --> 00:45:23,560 Speaker 1: see how it all plays out. Kevin Patrick bullish on 881 00:45:23,680 --> 00:45:28,640 Speaker 1: Andre Ellington. Yes, the bronze medalist in the making the 882 00:45:28,680 --> 00:45:32,000 Speaker 1: Leap Series for the Brazil, in the making the league. 883 00:45:32,000 --> 00:45:38,320 Speaker 1: Too soon, too soon? Sorry too soon, Kevin, Kevin Patcher, 884 00:45:38,360 --> 00:45:42,040 Speaker 1: thank you very much. Go back to your croquet game 885 00:45:42,080 --> 00:45:47,319 Speaker 1: with John Legend. Appreciate it going alright. Boys. So that's 886 00:45:47,320 --> 00:45:49,240 Speaker 1: it for today's edition in the Around the League Podcast. 887 00:45:49,320 --> 00:45:53,960 Speaker 1: We will be back on Monday with Greg Rosensal back 888 00:45:54,000 --> 00:45:57,279 Speaker 1: in the chair. Chris Westling heads off on vacation, heads 889 00:45:57,360 --> 00:46:00,239 Speaker 1: up to the Cincinnati Land. I believe yes, sir, so 890 00:46:00,680 --> 00:46:02,560 Speaker 1: Cris will be out of the mix, but we will 891 00:46:02,560 --> 00:46:05,160 Speaker 1: soldier on Mark and I gonna be all cal ripkin 892 00:46:05,280 --> 00:46:09,640 Speaker 1: and up this piece every day. Uh so until Monday. 893 00:46:09,719 --> 00:46:12,200 Speaker 1: This is Dan Hansons signing off for the Sizzler the 894 00:46:12,239 --> 00:46:15,080 Speaker 1: mail man and say date behind the glass not pint 895 00:46:15,200 --> 00:46:22,160 Speaker 1: glass until Monday.