1 00:00:05,320 --> 00:00:09,000 Speaker 1: Welcome into the Lounge presented by DraftKings. The Ravens suffered 2 00:00:09,039 --> 00:00:12,840 Speaker 1: a sixteen loss to the Cincinnati Bengals in Week eighteen 3 00:00:13,400 --> 00:00:18,120 Speaker 1: to close out the regular season. But here we go. 4 00:00:18,520 --> 00:00:21,240 Speaker 1: That was probably a loud clapp. Here we go rematch 5 00:00:21,760 --> 00:00:26,680 Speaker 1: back in Cincinnati on wild Card weekend, Sunday night football. 6 00:00:27,000 --> 00:00:29,440 Speaker 1: It's gonna be a good one. So we'll we'll spend 7 00:00:29,480 --> 00:00:31,120 Speaker 1: a little bit of time looking back at this game. 8 00:00:31,160 --> 00:00:35,159 Speaker 1: But obviously all sites are pointing forward towards the Bengals 9 00:00:35,159 --> 00:00:37,760 Speaker 1: in the playoffs. Obviously the Ravens strategy in this game 10 00:00:37,800 --> 00:00:40,839 Speaker 1: was also looking forward to being as strong as they 11 00:00:40,840 --> 00:00:44,680 Speaker 1: can be heading into the playoffs. So, Garrett, what did 12 00:00:44,680 --> 00:00:46,640 Speaker 1: you think of this game? First of all, yeah, I 13 00:00:47,120 --> 00:00:49,479 Speaker 1: might be called a homer for this take, but this 14 00:00:49,520 --> 00:00:52,319 Speaker 1: is honestly how I feel. It was gonna be really 15 00:00:52,360 --> 00:00:54,319 Speaker 1: challenging for the Ravens to win that game. They're down 16 00:00:54,320 --> 00:00:56,160 Speaker 1: to their thirst and quarterback. They wanted to rest some 17 00:00:56,240 --> 00:00:58,640 Speaker 1: guys on offense, they wanted to look ahead and play 18 00:00:58,720 --> 00:01:02,080 Speaker 1: for next week. Came in the playoffs, so you knew 19 00:01:02,080 --> 00:01:03,920 Speaker 1: it was gonna be really difficult to win that game. 20 00:01:04,520 --> 00:01:06,319 Speaker 1: And then also even if you won that game, you 21 00:01:06,360 --> 00:01:09,040 Speaker 1: still needed a win by the Chargers, which didn't happen. 22 00:01:09,319 --> 00:01:11,080 Speaker 1: You needed a coin flip, which you didn't even get to, 23 00:01:11,160 --> 00:01:13,160 Speaker 1: in order to get that home playoff game. So the 24 00:01:13,800 --> 00:01:16,760 Speaker 1: chances of all those things going right they were slim. 25 00:01:16,800 --> 00:01:19,000 Speaker 1: It was a low likelihood of all those things happening 26 00:01:19,040 --> 00:01:20,920 Speaker 1: in order to get the home playoff game. So they 27 00:01:20,920 --> 00:01:25,200 Speaker 1: didn't happen. Um And despite that, like if you weren't 28 00:01:25,200 --> 00:01:27,880 Speaker 1: gonna win the game, I felt like this was about 29 00:01:27,920 --> 00:01:29,959 Speaker 1: as good of an outcome as you could have had. 30 00:01:30,040 --> 00:01:32,160 Speaker 1: And and here's what I mean by that, this defense 31 00:01:32,160 --> 00:01:34,759 Speaker 1: played really well. I mean this defense made the Bengals 32 00:01:34,760 --> 00:01:37,280 Speaker 1: work for every yard. They forced him off the field 33 00:01:37,280 --> 00:01:40,520 Speaker 1: in a lot of situations. They made their life difficult. 34 00:01:40,760 --> 00:01:42,320 Speaker 1: The other thing, too, is like the Bengals had to 35 00:01:42,319 --> 00:01:45,000 Speaker 1: play the entire game. I think the Bengals would have 36 00:01:45,080 --> 00:01:47,080 Speaker 1: loved it. They would have loved it if in the 37 00:01:47,120 --> 00:01:49,360 Speaker 1: third quarter both sides kind of said, you know what, 38 00:01:49,560 --> 00:01:51,400 Speaker 1: we're gonna do this again next week. Let's pack it in. 39 00:01:51,440 --> 00:01:53,200 Speaker 1: You guys are gonna win this game, and we'll see 40 00:01:53,200 --> 00:01:56,560 Speaker 1: again here next week, same time, same place. They probably 41 00:01:56,560 --> 00:01:58,360 Speaker 1: felt like it was going down that they did, and 42 00:01:58,440 --> 00:02:01,080 Speaker 1: I'm sure they did, and it it felt that way early. 43 00:02:01,320 --> 00:02:04,280 Speaker 1: But the Ravens, their effort throughout the game was excellent, 44 00:02:04,720 --> 00:02:06,400 Speaker 1: and so they made the Bengals work for it on 45 00:02:06,440 --> 00:02:08,200 Speaker 1: a game that they felt like they were just they 46 00:02:08,200 --> 00:02:10,119 Speaker 1: seemed like they were annoyed that they kind of had 47 00:02:10,160 --> 00:02:14,079 Speaker 1: to play in some regards and they had to play 48 00:02:14,160 --> 00:02:17,680 Speaker 1: their starters the entire game. And I was really impressed 49 00:02:17,720 --> 00:02:19,760 Speaker 1: by what I saw from the defense. You know. Then 50 00:02:21,360 --> 00:02:23,240 Speaker 1: there just was like the chippiness factor that we all 51 00:02:23,280 --> 00:02:25,720 Speaker 1: saw like there there was there's kind of bad blood 52 00:02:25,880 --> 00:02:28,600 Speaker 1: boiling on both sides, and I think the Ravens, the 53 00:02:28,680 --> 00:02:30,720 Speaker 1: vibe I got after the game is like they can't 54 00:02:30,720 --> 00:02:33,960 Speaker 1: wait to get back there and play that game again. Yeah, 55 00:02:34,240 --> 00:02:37,440 Speaker 1: I feel the same way. On offense, you weren't gonna 56 00:02:37,440 --> 00:02:39,120 Speaker 1: be able to get it was to me, it was 57 00:02:39,160 --> 00:02:42,560 Speaker 1: all about getting momentum heading into the playoffs. Right on offense, 58 00:02:42,560 --> 00:02:44,560 Speaker 1: you weren't gonna be able to get momentum because Lamar 59 00:02:44,600 --> 00:02:46,799 Speaker 1: is still not out there and Snoop's not out there, 60 00:02:47,160 --> 00:02:49,280 Speaker 1: so and you needed the rest Snoop's shoulder to make 61 00:02:49,320 --> 00:02:51,320 Speaker 1: sure that he's as strong as possible going into the 62 00:02:51,320 --> 00:02:54,120 Speaker 1: playoffs in case Lamar isn't back in case, you know, 63 00:02:54,160 --> 00:02:56,639 Speaker 1: Snoop has to start again, right, So you didn't really 64 00:02:56,720 --> 00:03:00,359 Speaker 1: have a chance to to get rolling on off without 65 00:03:00,400 --> 00:03:04,120 Speaker 1: your quarterbacks, right with Anthony Brown and there your third stringer, right, 66 00:03:04,160 --> 00:03:07,200 Speaker 1: So if that's the case, then just rest Mark j K. 67 00:03:07,560 --> 00:03:11,200 Speaker 1: You know, Zeittler also rested. So I think the strategy 68 00:03:11,240 --> 00:03:13,040 Speaker 1: was right there. Now on defense, you did have a 69 00:03:13,120 --> 00:03:15,560 Speaker 1: chance to get a little bit of momentum, right and 70 00:03:15,560 --> 00:03:18,119 Speaker 1: and kind of I thought it was interesting last week 71 00:03:18,160 --> 00:03:21,440 Speaker 1: there was some talk about was this defense a little 72 00:03:21,480 --> 00:03:23,640 Speaker 1: bit of a mirage? You know, they haven't been facing 73 00:03:24,040 --> 00:03:28,120 Speaker 1: really top top tier offenses. They haven't really shut any 74 00:03:28,240 --> 00:03:32,600 Speaker 1: really good offense down this year. Well, the Bengals were 75 00:03:32,600 --> 00:03:34,800 Speaker 1: one of the hottest offenses in the league, one of 76 00:03:34,840 --> 00:03:39,040 Speaker 1: the most talented offenses in league. And the Ravens handcoffed them. 77 00:03:39,120 --> 00:03:41,040 Speaker 1: Yeah they didn't. They didn't really shut them down, but 78 00:03:41,080 --> 00:03:43,480 Speaker 1: they made life really difficult for him. And like basically 79 00:03:43,560 --> 00:03:46,600 Speaker 1: the Bengal success, I mean they got twenty seven points. Yeah, 80 00:03:46,760 --> 00:03:48,840 Speaker 1: they got twenty seven points. One was a defensive touchdown 81 00:03:48,840 --> 00:03:52,720 Speaker 1: and another was a very short field so uh, I mean, yeah, 82 00:03:52,720 --> 00:03:54,440 Speaker 1: they didn't shut them down, but they held him to 83 00:03:54,800 --> 00:03:58,840 Speaker 1: what was it in total yards three two seven, It's 84 00:03:58,840 --> 00:04:02,760 Speaker 1: like a hundred yards below or average, right, So pretty 85 00:04:02,800 --> 00:04:04,840 Speaker 1: darn good game by the Ravens defense that I do 86 00:04:04,960 --> 00:04:08,280 Speaker 1: think built momentum, right, And you saw them kind of 87 00:04:08,840 --> 00:04:11,440 Speaker 1: you just saw their confidence in swagger kind of building 88 00:04:11,480 --> 00:04:14,480 Speaker 1: in this game, and that animosity and that chippiness that 89 00:04:14,520 --> 00:04:17,120 Speaker 1: you're talking about just kind of seemed to build. And 90 00:04:17,240 --> 00:04:18,920 Speaker 1: you know, once they ghet Marcus Peters on the field, 91 00:04:18,960 --> 00:04:22,120 Speaker 1: that's also not lie. Sure. The Ravens played almost all 92 00:04:22,160 --> 00:04:25,480 Speaker 1: their defensive starters that they could well except for Marcus 93 00:04:25,520 --> 00:04:28,039 Speaker 1: Peters and Brandon Stevens was out, So that left Darryl 94 00:04:28,120 --> 00:04:30,760 Speaker 1: Worley one on one with Jamar Chase for a bunch 95 00:04:30,800 --> 00:04:33,279 Speaker 1: of the game, and the Bengals went at him, right. 96 00:04:33,320 --> 00:04:36,080 Speaker 1: So that's that's a pretty big difference right there. And 97 00:04:36,160 --> 00:04:39,320 Speaker 1: so I think the Ravens defense benefited from this game 98 00:04:39,320 --> 00:04:41,760 Speaker 1: and gaining some of that swagger and feeling like, hey, 99 00:04:41,800 --> 00:04:43,600 Speaker 1: we've done it twice now to the Bengals. That doesn't 100 00:04:43,600 --> 00:04:46,240 Speaker 1: guarantee that you're gonna you know, in air quotes, they 101 00:04:46,279 --> 00:04:47,840 Speaker 1: didn't shut them down, but that you're gonna have this 102 00:04:47,920 --> 00:04:50,080 Speaker 1: kind of performance three times it doesn't guarantee it, but 103 00:04:50,160 --> 00:04:52,400 Speaker 1: I think the Ravens defense is feeling really good about 104 00:04:52,440 --> 00:04:54,840 Speaker 1: what they can do in this matchup, and and that 105 00:04:54,880 --> 00:04:57,839 Speaker 1: can serve you. Well. Yeah, going back to the offensive 106 00:04:57,920 --> 00:05:01,320 Speaker 1: terms of building momentum, I'm with you, like you weren't 107 00:05:01,320 --> 00:05:04,000 Speaker 1: gonna you weren't gonna even if the offense like played well, 108 00:05:04,200 --> 00:05:06,679 Speaker 1: you weirdly weren't gonna like necessarily feel like that carries 109 00:05:06,720 --> 00:05:09,839 Speaker 1: into the next game with you know, Anthony Brown at quarterback, 110 00:05:09,880 --> 00:05:11,839 Speaker 1: if you're gonna get Lamar Jackson, It's just like there 111 00:05:11,880 --> 00:05:13,560 Speaker 1: was no real world in which you like you come 112 00:05:13,560 --> 00:05:15,440 Speaker 1: out of that feeling like, man, the offense is humming now. 113 00:05:15,839 --> 00:05:18,280 Speaker 1: And we talked last week about like the get right game, 114 00:05:18,360 --> 00:05:21,039 Speaker 1: So the get right game on the offensive side was 115 00:05:21,080 --> 00:05:23,159 Speaker 1: like never really in the equation once you knew that 116 00:05:23,240 --> 00:05:25,080 Speaker 1: Snoop and Lamar weren't going to be on the field. 117 00:05:25,680 --> 00:05:27,400 Speaker 1: I think that it kind of was to your point 118 00:05:27,400 --> 00:05:29,359 Speaker 1: to get right game on the defensive side. But I 119 00:05:29,400 --> 00:05:32,280 Speaker 1: also liked on offense is that it was an opportunity, 120 00:05:32,640 --> 00:05:34,560 Speaker 1: like I'm not gonna sit here and act like you know, 121 00:05:34,640 --> 00:05:36,560 Speaker 1: it was a preseason game, But I think it is 122 00:05:36,600 --> 00:05:38,919 Speaker 1: good to get like Isaiah likely rolling a little bit 123 00:05:39,000 --> 00:05:41,000 Speaker 1: and get Charlie Kohler. I do think you got some 124 00:05:41,160 --> 00:05:43,960 Speaker 1: you got some benefits out of that strategy. It's like 125 00:05:44,080 --> 00:05:46,080 Speaker 1: you found some guys that maybe they can be role 126 00:05:46,160 --> 00:05:48,640 Speaker 1: players here in the place. Could Charlie Cohler make a 127 00:05:48,680 --> 00:05:51,960 Speaker 1: tough third down catch it in the playoffs? Maybe, I 128 00:05:52,000 --> 00:05:55,960 Speaker 1: don't know. Could Isaiah like like Isaia likely definitely, I 129 00:05:55,960 --> 00:05:57,680 Speaker 1: mean they might lean on him with the state of 130 00:05:57,720 --> 00:05:59,320 Speaker 1: the wide receipience. So it's like you might you might 131 00:05:59,360 --> 00:06:01,600 Speaker 1: feeling and they likely all right, let's like you might 132 00:06:01,640 --> 00:06:06,159 Speaker 1: go into the next week's game feeling like Mark and 133 00:06:06,160 --> 00:06:08,520 Speaker 1: Isaiah are the top two targets. Like that wouldn't surprise 134 00:06:08,560 --> 00:06:10,120 Speaker 1: me at all, and just say, like you know what, 135 00:06:10,200 --> 00:06:11,719 Speaker 1: we love going to the tight ends. These are going 136 00:06:11,760 --> 00:06:14,440 Speaker 1: to be the guys that we feature and that may 137 00:06:14,480 --> 00:06:16,240 Speaker 1: be the recipe and so like you kind of can 138 00:06:16,320 --> 00:06:18,880 Speaker 1: get that rolling a little bit. The worst part of 139 00:06:18,880 --> 00:06:22,760 Speaker 1: the game was seeing Gus leave with with the head injury. 140 00:06:23,200 --> 00:06:25,960 Speaker 1: Hopefully that is not something that lingers into next week. 141 00:06:26,000 --> 00:06:29,040 Speaker 1: I mean that's like the main thing that like really 142 00:06:29,080 --> 00:06:30,920 Speaker 1: even going into the games, like don't get hurt, don't 143 00:06:30,920 --> 00:06:33,719 Speaker 1: get hurt. Don't get hurt. And you know when he leaves, 144 00:06:33,720 --> 00:06:36,080 Speaker 1: you're you're nervous about that. And then when Rokuan left 145 00:06:36,080 --> 00:06:37,599 Speaker 1: in the third or fourth quarter, I'm like, you gotta 146 00:06:37,640 --> 00:06:41,360 Speaker 1: be kidding me like that. I was like, oh no, 147 00:06:42,400 --> 00:06:45,040 Speaker 1: and came back. He got back back three plays later 148 00:06:45,040 --> 00:06:46,920 Speaker 1: and he was fine. So that was that was more 149 00:06:47,000 --> 00:06:48,719 Speaker 1: just nervous energy. When you see him come over the 150 00:06:48,720 --> 00:06:52,320 Speaker 1: sidelines shaking up for a you know, a couple of plays. Um, 151 00:06:52,520 --> 00:06:57,240 Speaker 1: can I just say, man, this guy's attitude and energy 152 00:06:57,279 --> 00:07:03,600 Speaker 1: on the field, Like he played hard yesterday, like this 153 00:07:03,640 --> 00:07:07,520 Speaker 1: was his was his first Bengals game. He played hard. 154 00:07:07,600 --> 00:07:10,080 Speaker 1: He wanted the Bengals to know that he's on this 155 00:07:10,160 --> 00:07:12,760 Speaker 1: defense now. You know. He kind of you know, gave 156 00:07:12,760 --> 00:07:14,920 Speaker 1: a little shoulder check to Jamar Chase at one point. 157 00:07:15,000 --> 00:07:18,679 Speaker 1: Like he played with energy and attitude and swagger, and 158 00:07:19,600 --> 00:07:21,080 Speaker 1: he was flying all over the field when you have 159 00:07:21,120 --> 00:07:24,920 Speaker 1: sixteen tackles, Like sixteen tackles, that's the miss he said, 160 00:07:24,920 --> 00:07:27,520 Speaker 1: ally was he was excellent. He took away a lot 161 00:07:27,560 --> 00:07:29,920 Speaker 1: of the short passing game that they did. Rokom was 162 00:07:29,960 --> 00:07:32,720 Speaker 1: all over the field. And I think that the Bengals 163 00:07:32,720 --> 00:07:35,880 Speaker 1: are certainly aware that he's going to be right in 164 00:07:35,880 --> 00:07:37,560 Speaker 1: the middle of his defense. A big difference in the 165 00:07:37,560 --> 00:07:40,520 Speaker 1: middle of the defense with him out there. Well, the 166 00:07:40,560 --> 00:07:44,120 Speaker 1: first game Ravens Bengals game, which the Ravens won, they 167 00:07:44,160 --> 00:07:46,280 Speaker 1: did a really good job of keeping kind of a 168 00:07:46,360 --> 00:07:48,560 Speaker 1: lid on the deep passing game the Bengals. And that's 169 00:07:48,600 --> 00:07:50,040 Speaker 1: what you have to do. If they start hitting big 170 00:07:50,040 --> 00:07:53,680 Speaker 1: shots down the field to you know, to what's his name, 171 00:07:55,520 --> 00:08:00,160 Speaker 1: you know, Jamar Chase hitting the big place exactly. H 172 00:08:00,200 --> 00:08:03,360 Speaker 1: If they start hitting those, it's it's really tough to 173 00:08:03,360 --> 00:08:05,920 Speaker 1: defend them. And so both games, really they've done a 174 00:08:05,920 --> 00:08:07,720 Speaker 1: pretty good job. There's one shot over the top, the 175 00:08:07,760 --> 00:08:11,600 Speaker 1: touchdown to Jamaar Chase against Darryl Worley. They got that shot. 176 00:08:11,680 --> 00:08:14,000 Speaker 1: But really for the most part, not a lot of 177 00:08:14,160 --> 00:08:16,760 Speaker 1: big passes in this game, and that's something the Ravens 178 00:08:16,760 --> 00:08:20,160 Speaker 1: defense has done well with really for most of the season. 179 00:08:20,160 --> 00:08:22,600 Speaker 1: After the Miami game, you know, has have not been 180 00:08:22,640 --> 00:08:26,480 Speaker 1: many deep balls completed on this secondary. But now you know, 181 00:08:26,520 --> 00:08:28,240 Speaker 1: if you're gonna have to check it down short and 182 00:08:28,640 --> 00:08:30,480 Speaker 1: take the short passing game, well, now you got to 183 00:08:30,520 --> 00:08:33,040 Speaker 1: deal with ro which is a difference between the first 184 00:08:33,120 --> 00:08:36,839 Speaker 1: Ravens Bengals game and this one, and you saw some hits, 185 00:08:37,280 --> 00:08:39,559 Speaker 1: saw some hits in this game, and uh yeah, I 186 00:08:39,880 --> 00:08:43,640 Speaker 1: think the defense built a little swagger going into this 187 00:08:43,640 --> 00:08:46,520 Speaker 1: wild card weekend, and I agree with you, you know, 188 00:08:48,120 --> 00:08:50,000 Speaker 1: really kind of one of the other takeaways for me 189 00:08:50,040 --> 00:08:53,000 Speaker 1: in this scheme was the wide receiver corps. You know, 190 00:08:53,280 --> 00:08:55,559 Speaker 1: they oh for nine on the first nine targets of 191 00:08:55,559 --> 00:08:58,520 Speaker 1: wide receivers, didn't have a catch. You know. Then there's 192 00:08:58,559 --> 00:09:01,480 Speaker 1: the drop ball that leads to an interception. There's you know, 193 00:09:01,520 --> 00:09:03,560 Speaker 1: a fumble late in the game by Sammy Watkins who 194 00:09:03,640 --> 00:09:05,840 Speaker 1: really made the two biggest plays of the wide receivers, 195 00:09:05,840 --> 00:09:08,360 Speaker 1: but had the fumble. Um you know, you see just 196 00:09:08,400 --> 00:09:10,920 Speaker 1: missed opportunity. James Purchet stepped out of bounds on what 197 00:09:11,000 --> 00:09:13,440 Speaker 1: should have been one long play. You know, it's it's 198 00:09:13,480 --> 00:09:15,240 Speaker 1: got to be better from the wide receivers, I think 199 00:09:15,240 --> 00:09:17,600 Speaker 1: in the playoffs to really get this offense where it 200 00:09:17,679 --> 00:09:21,280 Speaker 1: needs to be. But but then, you know, you see 201 00:09:21,320 --> 00:09:23,640 Speaker 1: these tight ends and Isaiah Likely stepping up, and you're like, 202 00:09:23,679 --> 00:09:25,840 Speaker 1: do they just shift to a running game and and 203 00:09:26,000 --> 00:09:29,240 Speaker 1: heavy tight ends? You know, you can't go completely that way. 204 00:09:29,280 --> 00:09:31,640 Speaker 1: You have to get some plays from the wide receivers, 205 00:09:31,640 --> 00:09:34,000 Speaker 1: as I've said all along, and I think it needs 206 00:09:34,040 --> 00:09:36,480 Speaker 1: to be better than it was yesterday. Well, yeah, it 207 00:09:36,520 --> 00:09:38,480 Speaker 1: definitely does. I think the plays that you're gonna get 208 00:09:38,520 --> 00:09:40,880 Speaker 1: from the wide receivers and kind of a perfect world 209 00:09:40,960 --> 00:09:42,959 Speaker 1: all the places that you got from Sammy's Sammy Watkins 210 00:09:43,040 --> 00:09:45,240 Speaker 1: minus the fumble, Like that's what the play is exactly. 211 00:09:45,280 --> 00:09:47,520 Speaker 1: We've said multiple times on here, that's why Sammy Watkins 212 00:09:47,600 --> 00:09:49,600 Speaker 1: is here. And if he makes those two plays and 213 00:09:49,720 --> 00:09:52,280 Speaker 1: just holds onto that ball, then you're like, oh man, 214 00:09:52,320 --> 00:09:54,320 Speaker 1: you know Sammy Watkins for the playoffs. You know, he 215 00:09:54,360 --> 00:09:58,320 Speaker 1: had two catches for a yard Sammy Playoffs, Sammy, and 216 00:09:58,360 --> 00:10:00,600 Speaker 1: he can make that play again next week. So I 217 00:10:00,640 --> 00:10:03,760 Speaker 1: think that that's basically to Marcus Robinson needs to be better. 218 00:10:03,800 --> 00:10:06,800 Speaker 1: You know, he had that play, he had, he had 219 00:10:06,920 --> 00:10:09,920 Speaker 1: drops and it's just he he needs to be better. 220 00:10:09,960 --> 00:10:12,240 Speaker 1: The Ravens need to lean on him. Um and I 221 00:10:12,240 --> 00:10:14,080 Speaker 1: think he can be better and will be better, but 222 00:10:14,160 --> 00:10:19,679 Speaker 1: that was not yesterday. He needs if the Ravens are 223 00:10:19,679 --> 00:10:22,520 Speaker 1: gonna have, you know, success through the air, what do 224 00:10:22,640 --> 00:10:25,280 Speaker 1: you make? You know? It's just it's always funny talking 225 00:10:25,360 --> 00:10:29,160 Speaker 1: rivalries because it kind of ebbs and flows and like 226 00:10:29,240 --> 00:10:32,160 Speaker 1: the Steelers, Ravens was always so big um and it 227 00:10:32,240 --> 00:10:34,360 Speaker 1: still is big, but I think that that has taken 228 00:10:34,360 --> 00:10:36,480 Speaker 1: a step back to a certain degree, like some of 229 00:10:36,559 --> 00:10:39,760 Speaker 1: the iconic players and that Sugs and Ben and Hindes 230 00:10:39,840 --> 00:10:43,640 Speaker 1: Ward and Troy Paul like they're not here anymore. And 231 00:10:43,679 --> 00:10:46,280 Speaker 1: then then the Titans kind of came out of nowhere 232 00:10:46,360 --> 00:10:47,840 Speaker 1: and all of a sudden, like there was you know, 233 00:10:47,880 --> 00:10:50,320 Speaker 1: there was the logo stuff and then John at hardball 234 00:10:50,440 --> 00:10:51,720 Speaker 1: and like all of a sudden, the Titans are a 235 00:10:51,720 --> 00:10:53,200 Speaker 1: team that you don't like because they knock the Ravens 236 00:10:53,200 --> 00:10:57,000 Speaker 1: out of the playoffs, and that rivalry kind of you know, elevated. 237 00:10:57,520 --> 00:10:59,800 Speaker 1: And the Bengals also, I think, are right there. And 238 00:10:59,840 --> 00:11:03,200 Speaker 1: in order for like rivalries to be great, you need 239 00:11:03,240 --> 00:11:05,760 Speaker 1: to play big games against teams, and the Ravens have 240 00:11:05,800 --> 00:11:07,760 Speaker 1: played some big games against the Bengals in recent years. 241 00:11:08,000 --> 00:11:10,400 Speaker 1: And there's just a lot of chatter, like Joe Burrow 242 00:11:10,400 --> 00:11:12,800 Speaker 1: did the podcast this offseason talking about how the Ravens 243 00:11:12,800 --> 00:11:14,959 Speaker 1: love to talk and there was a lot of jawing 244 00:11:15,040 --> 00:11:18,200 Speaker 1: between plays, and you know, the the guard for the 245 00:11:18,240 --> 00:11:21,360 Speaker 1: Bengals drives. It was the Tis Bowser into the bench 246 00:11:21,880 --> 00:11:25,160 Speaker 1: um or it was Kyle Hamiltons, I can't remember, right, 247 00:11:25,200 --> 00:11:27,080 Speaker 1: you know, takes him to the bench and you know 248 00:11:27,160 --> 00:11:29,760 Speaker 1: that was There's just a lot of and then Bengals 249 00:11:29,760 --> 00:11:31,559 Speaker 1: are talking after the I mean they're smoking the cigars 250 00:11:31,640 --> 00:11:34,920 Speaker 1: after the game. There's they're doing the coin flips celebration, 251 00:11:35,000 --> 00:11:37,760 Speaker 1: all that stuff. Like all that stuff I think is 252 00:11:37,800 --> 00:11:41,480 Speaker 1: just like shows that this the intensity of this rivalry 253 00:11:41,520 --> 00:11:44,680 Speaker 1: and the kind of the dislike between the teams seems 254 00:11:44,679 --> 00:11:48,520 Speaker 1: to be growing. Oh, totally agree. I think I tweeted 255 00:11:48,520 --> 00:11:51,680 Speaker 1: something months back like is you know Ravens Bengals the 256 00:11:51,720 --> 00:11:55,040 Speaker 1: new Ravens Steelers what it was? And uh, it's kind 257 00:11:55,040 --> 00:11:58,400 Speaker 1: of a mixed bag and from from fans in the reaction, 258 00:11:58,559 --> 00:12:01,240 Speaker 1: and I really believe that it is. I think that 259 00:12:01,280 --> 00:12:04,200 Speaker 1: there's like the animosity and that just I really don't 260 00:12:04,280 --> 00:12:07,840 Speaker 1: like you feeling between these two teams that you don't 261 00:12:07,920 --> 00:12:09,840 Speaker 1: really get from Ravens Steelers. There's just like a lot 262 00:12:09,880 --> 00:12:12,160 Speaker 1: of talk and you know, there's still some of that there, 263 00:12:12,200 --> 00:12:15,480 Speaker 1: but there's a lot of like respect and um, you know, 264 00:12:15,520 --> 00:12:17,480 Speaker 1: and there's respect between the Ravens and Bengals two, but 265 00:12:17,559 --> 00:12:20,600 Speaker 1: there I get more of the I genuinely don't like 266 00:12:20,720 --> 00:12:25,880 Speaker 1: you kind of feeling from from this game. Um, and yeah, 267 00:12:26,280 --> 00:12:30,360 Speaker 1: I mean the Bengals, they honestly cracked me up. Like 268 00:12:30,400 --> 00:12:33,439 Speaker 1: all the all the complaining all week about the NFL's 269 00:12:33,520 --> 00:12:37,080 Speaker 1: resolution A, the Ravens didn't make the resolution the NFL did, 270 00:12:37,480 --> 00:12:41,840 Speaker 1: So okay, b b. You had your hardest get one 271 00:12:41,840 --> 00:12:44,400 Speaker 1: of your hardest games on your schedule, a match up 272 00:12:44,440 --> 00:12:48,880 Speaker 1: against the Buffalo Bills erased, and and you were and 273 00:12:48,920 --> 00:12:51,400 Speaker 1: you were given the title the an f C North 274 00:12:51,480 --> 00:12:55,640 Speaker 1: Championship because of it. So what why are you complaining 275 00:12:55,640 --> 00:12:58,160 Speaker 1: so much? I I don't I really don't get it, 276 00:12:59,040 --> 00:13:03,400 Speaker 1: just like you know, I guess their perspective is like, sure, 277 00:13:03,600 --> 00:13:06,040 Speaker 1: senor champions, but maybe we don't reap the benefits of 278 00:13:06,080 --> 00:13:09,840 Speaker 1: being well yeah, I mean like like you know, yeah, 279 00:13:09,840 --> 00:13:12,079 Speaker 1: if they if they if if that, if they had 280 00:13:12,120 --> 00:13:14,520 Speaker 1: lost and then they don't get any home playoff game, 281 00:13:15,280 --> 00:13:17,720 Speaker 1: they would have been you know they then you sure, 282 00:13:17,840 --> 00:13:19,880 Speaker 1: but but you if you would have lost, if if 283 00:13:19,920 --> 00:13:22,600 Speaker 1: you would have finished that Bills game and lost then 284 00:13:22,840 --> 00:13:24,839 Speaker 1: and then lost the Ravens, you wouldn't have been anf 285 00:13:25,000 --> 00:13:26,440 Speaker 1: North champions and would have had a home game. So 286 00:13:26,520 --> 00:13:29,520 Speaker 1: like you know that was the situation you instead of 287 00:13:29,559 --> 00:13:32,040 Speaker 1: having that game Week eighteen game for the a f 288 00:13:32,080 --> 00:13:35,120 Speaker 1: C Championship, it was you were already Yeah. I mean, look, 289 00:13:35,160 --> 00:13:38,120 Speaker 1: I think that without doing like too much of the 290 00:13:38,160 --> 00:13:40,839 Speaker 1: revision's history, I think that it was an imperfect situation. 291 00:13:41,320 --> 00:13:43,080 Speaker 1: And I actually think the NAHL did a pretty good 292 00:13:43,120 --> 00:13:46,760 Speaker 1: job of trying to find a good path forward in 293 00:13:46,840 --> 00:13:51,559 Speaker 1: a in like basically impossible circumstances. Um and but they 294 00:13:51,559 --> 00:13:55,640 Speaker 1: were like clearly, clearly very very very very salted. Yeah. Yeah, 295 00:13:56,160 --> 00:13:58,520 Speaker 1: I mean there's lots of stories about it, you know, 296 00:13:58,920 --> 00:14:02,000 Speaker 1: they ti they try to you know, use that as like, 297 00:14:02,960 --> 00:14:06,920 Speaker 1: you know, and this is what motivation is often the 298 00:14:07,000 --> 00:14:09,640 Speaker 1: name of the game in the NFL and sports in general. 299 00:14:09,720 --> 00:14:11,520 Speaker 1: And it's kind of us against the world. They're out 300 00:14:11,520 --> 00:14:14,200 Speaker 1: to get us. And I'm sure that that the coaches 301 00:14:14,320 --> 00:14:16,480 Speaker 1: over there are fans on those flash they were saying 302 00:14:16,520 --> 00:14:18,760 Speaker 1: that after the game, that's us against the world. Everybody's 303 00:14:18,760 --> 00:14:20,720 Speaker 1: against us. We've been through all this adversity. You've been 304 00:14:20,720 --> 00:14:22,720 Speaker 1: though through all this adversity. You're one of the healthiest 305 00:14:22,720 --> 00:14:25,360 Speaker 1: teams in the NFL. What are you talking about and 306 00:14:25,440 --> 00:14:27,360 Speaker 1: have been for the past two years. What verse it's 307 00:14:27,400 --> 00:14:31,400 Speaker 1: not us against the world. What are you talking? But 308 00:14:31,480 --> 00:14:34,960 Speaker 1: it just um and and then like you know, the 309 00:14:35,000 --> 00:14:37,600 Speaker 1: other thing is like the celebration and the cigars moving 310 00:14:37,640 --> 00:14:39,280 Speaker 1: and whatever. You know what, you win the game, you 311 00:14:39,320 --> 00:14:41,080 Speaker 1: win the championship. You get to celebrate, how you get 312 00:14:41,080 --> 00:14:43,240 Speaker 1: to celebrate. But it's just like funny, you know, had 313 00:14:43,240 --> 00:14:45,680 Speaker 1: they not had their starting quarterback for the past five 314 00:14:45,760 --> 00:14:48,840 Speaker 1: games of the regular season, the final five, I think 315 00:14:48,880 --> 00:14:50,760 Speaker 1: things may have turned out a little bit differently. What 316 00:14:50,800 --> 00:14:53,240 Speaker 1: do you think? Sure? Sure? I mean, yeah, I'm not 317 00:14:53,240 --> 00:14:56,440 Speaker 1: gonna go down like you sit here and beat a 318 00:14:56,520 --> 00:14:59,360 Speaker 1: third string you beat the third string quarterback and a 319 00:14:59,400 --> 00:15:02,000 Speaker 1: bunch and you know, some of the Ravens top players 320 00:15:02,040 --> 00:15:04,040 Speaker 1: not playing the game, and they're acting like they just 321 00:15:04,040 --> 00:15:06,400 Speaker 1: won the Super Bowl. Yeah, I mean, all right, look 322 00:15:06,560 --> 00:15:08,760 Speaker 1: that whatever you get to celebrate, how you get to celebrate. 323 00:15:08,760 --> 00:15:11,320 Speaker 1: You can celebrate however you want to celebrate. But I 324 00:15:11,360 --> 00:15:14,040 Speaker 1: believe that I got the sense that the Ravens players 325 00:15:14,040 --> 00:15:16,760 Speaker 1: took notice. Yeah, I think Look, I think over over 326 00:15:16,880 --> 00:15:19,040 Speaker 1: across the entire game, like they just seemed to be 327 00:15:19,120 --> 00:15:22,840 Speaker 1: like some animosity. Um, Like I said, whether it's you know, 328 00:15:23,160 --> 00:15:25,280 Speaker 1: kind of Roquan giving a little shoulder check to Jamar 329 00:15:25,360 --> 00:15:28,880 Speaker 1: Chase or um you know, tie us getting pushed back 330 00:15:28,920 --> 00:15:31,800 Speaker 1: into the bench or those things like that, some some 331 00:15:31,840 --> 00:15:34,760 Speaker 1: trash talking between plays. Hayden Hurst was trash talking Kyle 332 00:15:34,800 --> 00:15:36,960 Speaker 1: Hamilton's it looked like you're just like random little things 333 00:15:36,960 --> 00:15:38,880 Speaker 1: like that. And it took place during the game and 334 00:15:38,920 --> 00:15:40,760 Speaker 1: at the end of the game. I thought it was interesting, 335 00:15:40,800 --> 00:15:45,240 Speaker 1: like and I like this, and I don't always notice 336 00:15:45,280 --> 00:15:47,200 Speaker 1: these things, but I did. Basically as soon as the 337 00:15:47,240 --> 00:15:49,880 Speaker 1: game ended, a bunch of the Ravens defensive players just 338 00:15:49,920 --> 00:15:51,680 Speaker 1: boom right into the locker room and kind of jogged 339 00:15:51,680 --> 00:15:53,760 Speaker 1: off the field. And and the way I took it 340 00:15:53,800 --> 00:15:56,520 Speaker 1: was like, all right, well, you right back here next week, 341 00:15:56,640 --> 00:15:58,840 Speaker 1: like we'll we'll do the handshakes and the and the 342 00:15:58,960 --> 00:16:01,560 Speaker 1: and the congrats at all that stuff next week. We'll 343 00:16:01,640 --> 00:16:04,080 Speaker 1: have that conversation then, but right now to return to 344 00:16:04,160 --> 00:16:06,680 Speaker 1: the page and it's all business like. It just seemed 345 00:16:06,720 --> 00:16:09,240 Speaker 1: like that was kind of the attitude and and hearing 346 00:16:09,280 --> 00:16:11,800 Speaker 1: from Roquan Smith after the game, Like, you know, ro 347 00:16:11,960 --> 00:16:15,080 Speaker 1: Kwan is um as we've said many times, like he's 348 00:16:15,080 --> 00:16:17,920 Speaker 1: such an impressive guy. The tone that I got from 349 00:16:18,000 --> 00:16:20,120 Speaker 1: him is like, we can't wait to be back here 350 00:16:20,160 --> 00:16:24,520 Speaker 1: next week. Like I think they're fired off. It's gonna 351 00:16:24,520 --> 00:16:27,920 Speaker 1: be I can't wait. It's gonna be a heck of 352 00:16:27,960 --> 00:16:31,080 Speaker 1: a game. And uh yeah, it's one of those weeks 353 00:16:31,080 --> 00:16:33,280 Speaker 1: that it's just gonna feel like it's just building and 354 00:16:33,280 --> 00:16:35,880 Speaker 1: building and building, and you just can't wait for Sunday 355 00:16:35,880 --> 00:16:38,280 Speaker 1: to get here, you know. It's it's one of those weeks. 356 00:16:38,840 --> 00:16:41,840 Speaker 1: And um, so yeah, I mean it's it's it's fun. 357 00:16:41,960 --> 00:16:43,680 Speaker 1: Like I sit here and like you know, kind of 358 00:16:43,680 --> 00:16:46,200 Speaker 1: poke fun at the Bengal celebrations or whatever, but like 359 00:16:46,240 --> 00:16:49,040 Speaker 1: it's fun, man Like, Like that's what That's what Joe 360 00:16:49,040 --> 00:16:51,520 Speaker 1: Burrow has brought in to a degree, Like he is 361 00:16:51,560 --> 00:16:54,640 Speaker 1: not a bashful dude about celebrating and talking and and 362 00:16:54,680 --> 00:16:56,920 Speaker 1: all that stuff. And like, you know, some people like 363 00:16:56,960 --> 00:16:58,920 Speaker 1: it drives some people up a wall. I think I 364 00:16:58,920 --> 00:17:01,040 Speaker 1: think it's fun, you know, like it can be. It's 365 00:17:01,080 --> 00:17:04,479 Speaker 1: it adds another element to this rivalry that I like. 366 00:17:04,840 --> 00:17:07,280 Speaker 1: And these seams are going to get after it. They're 367 00:17:07,280 --> 00:17:10,679 Speaker 1: going to get after So let's take a quick break 368 00:17:10,920 --> 00:17:13,680 Speaker 1: and then we'll discuss the biggest question of the week. 369 00:17:14,119 --> 00:17:16,919 Speaker 1: And obviously what's gonna maybe have the biggest impact on 370 00:17:16,960 --> 00:17:19,679 Speaker 1: this game, all right. Make you know the sports landscape 371 00:17:19,680 --> 00:17:22,720 Speaker 1: is always changing. Right this week it's playoff week, but 372 00:17:22,720 --> 00:17:25,399 Speaker 1: it's still no different. 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You can do that at 383 00:17:50,320 --> 00:17:51,960 Speaker 1: Draft Kings. Go ahead and get signed up for that. 384 00:17:52,520 --> 00:17:55,200 Speaker 1: All right. So, in terms of this week, the big 385 00:17:55,280 --> 00:18:00,440 Speaker 1: question that everybody wants to know, everyone's asking it, whether media, 386 00:18:00,480 --> 00:18:04,400 Speaker 1: whether it's family, whether it's anybody. Is Lamar Jackson gonna 387 00:18:04,440 --> 00:18:08,400 Speaker 1: play in this game? And all of the reports, well, 388 00:18:08,480 --> 00:18:10,399 Speaker 1: I shouldn't say all of reports. The reports have kind 389 00:18:10,440 --> 00:18:12,280 Speaker 1: of been all over the place. The latest in all 390 00:18:12,320 --> 00:18:18,159 Speaker 1: of the reports is that nobody knows very much up 391 00:18:18,200 --> 00:18:22,240 Speaker 1: in the air. Mm hmm not not not the feeling. 392 00:18:22,400 --> 00:18:24,159 Speaker 1: I liked it more when the reports were that he 393 00:18:24,200 --> 00:18:26,119 Speaker 1: had a very strong chance of playing, right, I like 394 00:18:26,240 --> 00:18:28,600 Speaker 1: those reports better. Can we go back to those reports? Yeah, 395 00:18:28,600 --> 00:18:30,600 Speaker 1: well that's the thing. It's like, I mean, last week 396 00:18:31,600 --> 00:18:33,840 Speaker 1: it was, you know, reports that the expectations for him 397 00:18:33,840 --> 00:18:36,119 Speaker 1: to play in the playoffs. You know, then on Sunday 398 00:18:36,200 --> 00:18:41,520 Speaker 1: night it's, well, it's not sure, Mike Florio, schefter's report 399 00:18:41,560 --> 00:18:44,160 Speaker 1: on Saturday, there's a sore city is a very good 400 00:18:44,240 --> 00:18:46,359 Speaker 1: chance of playing or whatever, very strong. All right, I 401 00:18:46,400 --> 00:18:49,000 Speaker 1: like that. All right, let's go, let's go, and now 402 00:18:49,080 --> 00:18:53,680 Speaker 1: it's Florio. Nobody knows. I don't know, but I mean 403 00:18:53,960 --> 00:18:57,760 Speaker 1: clearly clearly. You know. Do I think the Ravens can 404 00:18:57,760 --> 00:19:01,120 Speaker 1: win a playoff game? I think it would be very hard. 405 00:19:01,119 --> 00:19:04,000 Speaker 1: With Anthony Brown, I think that Snoop is gonna play 406 00:19:04,040 --> 00:19:06,680 Speaker 1: worst case scenario in Cincinnati. If Lamar can't, I would 407 00:19:06,680 --> 00:19:08,600 Speaker 1: expect that Snoop will start. I think this is a 408 00:19:08,680 --> 00:19:11,359 Speaker 1: rest his shoulder, get it as good as possible before 409 00:19:11,400 --> 00:19:14,560 Speaker 1: the playoffs in case, right. Do I think they can 410 00:19:14,560 --> 00:19:17,560 Speaker 1: win a playoff game with Snoop? Yes? I do. I 411 00:19:17,600 --> 00:19:19,439 Speaker 1: think this defense. I mean they were in an eleven 412 00:19:19,440 --> 00:19:22,040 Speaker 1: point game and they gave up a defensive touchdown and 413 00:19:22,040 --> 00:19:25,760 Speaker 1: they had Anthony Brown under center, right, so do and 414 00:19:25,760 --> 00:19:27,159 Speaker 1: and they didn't have j K and they didn't have 415 00:19:27,200 --> 00:19:29,160 Speaker 1: Mark and all that stuff. Like do I think they can? 416 00:19:29,640 --> 00:19:32,639 Speaker 1: I do? I do? And uh, is it gonna make 417 00:19:32,640 --> 00:19:35,480 Speaker 1: it harder? Absolutely? I think I think it would be 418 00:19:35,560 --> 00:19:38,200 Speaker 1: really asking a lot for the Ravens to win multiple 419 00:19:38,240 --> 00:19:39,920 Speaker 1: playoff games and go to the super Bowl if you 420 00:19:39,920 --> 00:19:42,639 Speaker 1: didn't have Lamar Jackson, Like, let's be honest, you know, 421 00:19:43,480 --> 00:19:46,560 Speaker 1: but like, can they not? You know, I think they 422 00:19:46,560 --> 00:19:48,720 Speaker 1: can win. They can win with Snoop. The defense would 423 00:19:48,720 --> 00:19:51,760 Speaker 1: have to play amazing. He'd have to play really well. Obviously, 424 00:19:51,800 --> 00:19:54,320 Speaker 1: he'd have to play amazing, Um, all that stuff. The 425 00:19:54,359 --> 00:19:55,960 Speaker 1: run game would have to be humming, all that stuff. 426 00:19:56,000 --> 00:19:58,440 Speaker 1: But like, I think they can. But clearly, I think 427 00:19:58,640 --> 00:20:01,040 Speaker 1: it's gonna require Lamar are getting back on the field 428 00:20:01,080 --> 00:20:03,280 Speaker 1: for this team to reach the ultimate goal that it 429 00:20:03,320 --> 00:20:06,439 Speaker 1: wants to reach. Yeah, I mean, I'm with you. I 430 00:20:06,480 --> 00:20:09,600 Speaker 1: think that it's not like exactly a hot take here 431 00:20:09,640 --> 00:20:13,480 Speaker 1: to say that this team is like Lamar Jackson's presence 432 00:20:13,520 --> 00:20:16,920 Speaker 1: on this team is gonna be a determining factor and 433 00:20:16,920 --> 00:20:18,720 Speaker 1: how far they go in the playoffs, Like that's not 434 00:20:18,760 --> 00:20:21,359 Speaker 1: exactly like breaking news here. Uh, he's one of the 435 00:20:21,359 --> 00:20:24,560 Speaker 1: most electrifying players in the game, so you know you 436 00:20:24,600 --> 00:20:27,240 Speaker 1: want him on the field. The feeling I got in 437 00:20:27,280 --> 00:20:29,800 Speaker 1: the locker room even like a bunch of reporters after 438 00:20:29,840 --> 00:20:32,720 Speaker 1: the game asked players basically, do you think the mar 439 00:20:32,760 --> 00:20:34,600 Speaker 1: is gonna play and what are your thoughts on the 440 00:20:34,600 --> 00:20:38,840 Speaker 1: whole thing, and the general answer from players was like, 441 00:20:40,000 --> 00:20:41,880 Speaker 1: we'll see, we don't know. Like I did not get 442 00:20:41,920 --> 00:20:44,879 Speaker 1: the sense in listening to players, like they're like nobody said, oh, yeah, 443 00:20:44,960 --> 00:20:48,600 Speaker 1: he's gonna be back, and and typically speaking just for 444 00:20:48,640 --> 00:20:51,840 Speaker 1: the record, like players don't often reveal much about other 445 00:20:51,880 --> 00:20:54,720 Speaker 1: players injuries. They aren't even likely to reveal anything about 446 00:20:54,720 --> 00:20:57,760 Speaker 1: their own injuries, so they're not gonna they're very rarely 447 00:20:57,800 --> 00:20:59,720 Speaker 1: gonna be talking about other players and when they're gonna 448 00:20:59,720 --> 00:21:02,960 Speaker 1: get kind of field um, but like the sense from 449 00:21:03,000 --> 00:21:06,240 Speaker 1: them is like, we'll see, we hope he's back. He's dynamic, 450 00:21:06,520 --> 00:21:09,120 Speaker 1: but at the same time, we've we've been playing with 451 00:21:09,480 --> 00:21:11,840 Speaker 1: Snoop and now Anthony Brown for a while and we 452 00:21:11,960 --> 00:21:14,359 Speaker 1: have confidence in those guys. Like that was the vibe 453 00:21:14,359 --> 00:21:17,639 Speaker 1: that I got in talking with players, and like the 454 00:21:17,720 --> 00:21:20,640 Speaker 1: defensive players especially, like I think they're kind of like 455 00:21:20,920 --> 00:21:23,640 Speaker 1: their attitude is like, we don't care who's the quarterback. 456 00:21:24,119 --> 00:21:26,280 Speaker 1: We we don't want to give up any any points. Well, 457 00:21:26,520 --> 00:21:28,480 Speaker 1: they all they all went lamar out there. And of 458 00:21:28,520 --> 00:21:30,199 Speaker 1: course I don't mean that, and I don't mean that 459 00:21:30,240 --> 00:21:32,320 Speaker 1: in the way of like, yeah, I just mean like 460 00:21:32,320 --> 00:21:34,440 Speaker 1: their attitude is like, well, if they don't take care 461 00:21:34,440 --> 00:21:38,200 Speaker 1: of our business, don't doesn't matter who's the quarterback. Exactly 462 00:21:38,400 --> 00:21:41,200 Speaker 1: exactly they and they feel like they're capable of doing it. Yeah, 463 00:21:41,280 --> 00:21:43,360 Speaker 1: like that they're that good defense. They can just completely 464 00:21:43,359 --> 00:21:46,440 Speaker 1: shut somebody down, keeping you know, under ten and like 465 00:21:47,000 --> 00:21:49,440 Speaker 1: you keep somebody under ten, I think the Ravens can 466 00:21:49,440 --> 00:21:51,639 Speaker 1: win ballgames even with Snoop under center and all that 467 00:21:51,920 --> 00:21:56,439 Speaker 1: under ten. Oh yeah, like if that's tough, but the 468 00:21:56,440 --> 00:22:00,240 Speaker 1: defense that's like that's probably like what they're looking at, 469 00:22:00,280 --> 00:22:03,959 Speaker 1: you know, And so yeah, if you keep him out 470 00:22:03,960 --> 00:22:05,639 Speaker 1: of the end zone, let's just say that you keep 471 00:22:05,680 --> 00:22:10,560 Speaker 1: them out of the end zone. Pretty tough. Um, So yeah, 472 00:22:10,640 --> 00:22:15,360 Speaker 1: I agree with you. I think I think that the Ravens, 473 00:22:15,400 --> 00:22:17,719 Speaker 1: the Ravens defense and the running game, as long as 474 00:22:17,760 --> 00:22:20,639 Speaker 1: those two things are strong. If the run game is 475 00:22:20,640 --> 00:22:24,280 Speaker 1: is not getting positive yards on first down and your 476 00:22:24,359 --> 00:22:25,800 Speaker 1: second and tend and all that stuff, it makes it 477 00:22:25,840 --> 00:22:27,520 Speaker 1: really tough. But if the defense and the running game 478 00:22:27,560 --> 00:22:31,760 Speaker 1: are going, you can win games in January. And so 479 00:22:31,920 --> 00:22:34,240 Speaker 1: that's gonna be the Ravens formula to a large degree, 480 00:22:34,240 --> 00:22:35,720 Speaker 1: as we've talked about. All Right, so we have a 481 00:22:35,720 --> 00:22:38,640 Speaker 1: bunch of emails here. This one comes from Trevor Watson. 482 00:22:38,640 --> 00:22:40,480 Speaker 1: He said, Anthony Brown is a trooper. He said, I 483 00:22:40,480 --> 00:22:42,480 Speaker 1: get wanting our team to be at its best, but 484 00:22:42,560 --> 00:22:44,919 Speaker 1: it was the right move starting Anthony. Yes, we all 485 00:22:44,960 --> 00:22:47,400 Speaker 1: want Lamar back. Who wouldn't, But I believe some are 486 00:22:47,400 --> 00:22:49,639 Speaker 1: thinking way too much into this game. Did the offense 487 00:22:49,680 --> 00:22:52,600 Speaker 1: struggle again? Yes? Could anyone writing into the lounge have 488 00:22:52,640 --> 00:22:56,440 Speaker 1: played better? No, Anthony showed showed grit on the field, 489 00:22:56,480 --> 00:22:58,920 Speaker 1: and there's no better way to learn than actually getting 490 00:22:58,920 --> 00:23:00,960 Speaker 1: out there and doing it. Not to mention it was 491 00:23:01,000 --> 00:23:03,640 Speaker 1: only an eleven point game, he says, I'll be with 492 00:23:03,720 --> 00:23:06,280 Speaker 1: every Ravens fan shooting up a few prayers this week, 493 00:23:06,320 --> 00:23:08,920 Speaker 1: hoping eight can come back and help write this offense. 494 00:23:09,080 --> 00:23:12,960 Speaker 1: Because it's time to dance. Bring on the bangles. He 495 00:23:13,000 --> 00:23:15,680 Speaker 1: says I thought it. Yeah, I thought, you know, Anthony Brown, 496 00:23:15,720 --> 00:23:18,200 Speaker 1: like obviously three turners in the first half, not good, 497 00:23:19,040 --> 00:23:20,879 Speaker 1: one of which you know a fune will recovery in 498 00:23:20,920 --> 00:23:24,760 Speaker 1: the end zone. But um, you know he a. I 499 00:23:25,200 --> 00:23:28,760 Speaker 1: think he was in a tough circumstance on that play specifically, um. 500 00:23:28,840 --> 00:23:32,040 Speaker 1: And I think that the second interception really should have 501 00:23:32,040 --> 00:23:35,080 Speaker 1: been caught um. And then most importantly, I thought he 502 00:23:35,080 --> 00:23:36,639 Speaker 1: played a lot better in the second half, Like he 503 00:23:36,760 --> 00:23:39,800 Speaker 1: just seemed to settle in and understandably, you're making your 504 00:23:39,800 --> 00:23:41,760 Speaker 1: first start, he said at the game. He hasn't run 505 00:23:41,760 --> 00:23:43,720 Speaker 1: a bunch of those plays, you know. I mean he 506 00:23:43,720 --> 00:23:46,240 Speaker 1: had one week of practice with the first team offense, 507 00:23:46,320 --> 00:23:49,240 Speaker 1: like you know, like talk about getting thrown into the 508 00:23:49,280 --> 00:23:52,320 Speaker 1: deep end. Um. So I thought I thought he played 509 00:23:52,359 --> 00:23:54,719 Speaker 1: better in the second half, made some nice throws and 510 00:23:55,040 --> 00:23:57,120 Speaker 1: credit to him, man, he hung in there, played tough 511 00:23:57,240 --> 00:24:01,800 Speaker 1: after a very tough start. Yeah, look, Anthony down, I'll 512 00:24:01,800 --> 00:24:04,359 Speaker 1: tell you what what would you have said if I 513 00:24:04,400 --> 00:24:06,240 Speaker 1: told you at the start of the season that in 514 00:24:06,359 --> 00:24:09,240 Speaker 1: Week eighteen, Anthony Brown is gonna throw forty four passes 515 00:24:09,359 --> 00:24:12,560 Speaker 1: and says Sinnati in the regular season finale, more passing 516 00:24:12,600 --> 00:24:16,640 Speaker 1: attempts than Joe Burrow. Look, Ravens were trailing the entire game. 517 00:24:16,640 --> 00:24:18,639 Speaker 1: I'm not like criticizing the game plan there. I'm just 518 00:24:19,000 --> 00:24:21,840 Speaker 1: that's just the reality of it. UM. But he so 519 00:24:22,160 --> 00:24:24,359 Speaker 1: what I liked about Anthony Brown. So he finished with 520 00:24:24,400 --> 00:24:27,160 Speaker 1: two six passing yards was actually is the second highest 521 00:24:27,200 --> 00:24:29,160 Speaker 1: total of the season for the Ravens. Lamar had more 522 00:24:29,280 --> 00:24:32,159 Speaker 1: in Miami against Miami in Week two. UM, but that 523 00:24:32,240 --> 00:24:35,280 Speaker 1: was the second highest total there for Anthony Brown. I 524 00:24:35,359 --> 00:24:37,359 Speaker 1: liked that as the game went on, he seemed to 525 00:24:37,359 --> 00:24:40,000 Speaker 1: get better like he did not like. I think it 526 00:24:40,040 --> 00:24:42,000 Speaker 1: would have been kind of easy for a rookie quarterback 527 00:24:42,040 --> 00:24:46,840 Speaker 1: in that situation, UM, after some early game struggles to 528 00:24:46,920 --> 00:24:49,800 Speaker 1: basically just be flustered and not really be able to 529 00:24:49,800 --> 00:24:52,919 Speaker 1: settle in or get anything going. And he was able to. 530 00:24:53,000 --> 00:24:54,440 Speaker 1: He was able to move the ball, he was able 531 00:24:54,480 --> 00:24:55,919 Speaker 1: to put up some yards, he was able to keep 532 00:24:55,960 --> 00:24:57,719 Speaker 1: the Ravens in the game. I thought all of that 533 00:24:57,800 --> 00:25:02,440 Speaker 1: was good. And like, of course, we hope that Lamar 534 00:25:02,560 --> 00:25:04,239 Speaker 1: is back, you hope that Snoop is ready to go. 535 00:25:04,640 --> 00:25:08,280 Speaker 1: But I do think that Anthony Brown made you feel like, Okay, 536 00:25:08,280 --> 00:25:10,040 Speaker 1: like this guy, he can move the ball. And make 537 00:25:10,119 --> 00:25:14,200 Speaker 1: some plays through the air. That's that's encouraging. Um. You know, 538 00:25:14,240 --> 00:25:16,240 Speaker 1: I don't think like that, and that's what you want. 539 00:25:16,320 --> 00:25:19,080 Speaker 1: That's what you want from that from him in that situation. 540 00:25:19,600 --> 00:25:23,480 Speaker 1: So I thought, overall, pretty solid day for a guy. 541 00:25:23,560 --> 00:25:25,440 Speaker 1: You got to clean up the turnovers, and I agree 542 00:25:25,440 --> 00:25:28,800 Speaker 1: with you. That really difficult circumstance on that strip sack 543 00:25:28,840 --> 00:25:31,200 Speaker 1: in the end zone. Just just a really tough spot 544 00:25:31,240 --> 00:25:33,920 Speaker 1: there for for a player making his first career start 545 00:25:33,960 --> 00:25:36,280 Speaker 1: to be in. But as the game went on, I 546 00:25:36,320 --> 00:25:38,840 Speaker 1: like what I saw, all right. Another email, this one 547 00:25:38,920 --> 00:25:40,880 Speaker 1: is from Patrick Coon. He says, to be honest, I'm 548 00:25:40,880 --> 00:25:43,160 Speaker 1: not even mad about the l today. I'm happy John 549 00:25:43,200 --> 00:25:45,840 Speaker 1: rested a bunch of the starters hopefully kind of come 550 00:25:45,960 --> 00:25:49,840 Speaker 1: out of today's game relatively healthy. Any updates on Gusts Sorry, Pagrick, 551 00:25:49,880 --> 00:25:52,160 Speaker 1: we do not have any updates. Hopefully we get something 552 00:25:52,200 --> 00:25:55,600 Speaker 1: from John Harball today, but with hen injuries, you never know, 553 00:25:56,160 --> 00:25:59,240 Speaker 1: Um says. The big question everybody's mind is, obviously Mr 554 00:25:59,320 --> 00:26:02,360 Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson does he does he or doesn't he play 555 00:26:02,359 --> 00:26:04,760 Speaker 1: in the playoffs and maybe more importantly for the Ravens again, 556 00:26:05,280 --> 00:26:07,520 Speaker 1: the Ravens are back in Cincinnati. For the wild card round. 557 00:26:07,560 --> 00:26:09,440 Speaker 1: In today's game, if you take out the four turn overs, 558 00:26:09,480 --> 00:26:12,480 Speaker 1: the game is way closer, completely achievable to get the DUB. 559 00:26:12,680 --> 00:26:15,520 Speaker 1: Next week, he says, assuming Lamar comes back and has 560 00:26:15,560 --> 00:26:19,000 Speaker 1: a full week of good practice, uh, I say the 561 00:26:19,080 --> 00:26:22,840 Speaker 1: Ravens win twenty four with Tucker being a difference maker 562 00:26:22,840 --> 00:26:26,160 Speaker 1: with a caunch fifty plus yard fourth quarter field goal. Said. 563 00:26:26,160 --> 00:26:28,439 Speaker 1: If Lamar is out again, I think we can probably 564 00:26:28,440 --> 00:26:31,959 Speaker 1: expect a similar score to Week eighteen and an unsatisfying 565 00:26:32,080 --> 00:26:37,440 Speaker 1: one and done playoff. Um, all right, Pat, I hope, 566 00:26:37,480 --> 00:26:39,480 Speaker 1: I hope the second. If he's not back, that that 567 00:26:39,520 --> 00:26:44,160 Speaker 1: scenario is wrong, but I'll take the first. Um. Yeah, 568 00:26:44,240 --> 00:26:47,840 Speaker 1: I mean I think I think the Ravens feel very 569 00:26:47,920 --> 00:26:50,520 Speaker 1: much like they can win this game, this wild card game, 570 00:26:50,680 --> 00:26:52,639 Speaker 1: very much like they can win that game. And I 571 00:26:52,800 --> 00:26:54,800 Speaker 1: to our point earlier, I think they feel like they 572 00:26:54,800 --> 00:26:56,680 Speaker 1: can win that game even if Snoop is under center. 573 00:26:57,320 --> 00:26:59,360 Speaker 1: Uh And and if Lamar comes back, you know, does 574 00:26:59,359 --> 00:27:01,840 Speaker 1: it have the Lewis effect? You know, doesn't have this 575 00:27:01,920 --> 00:27:04,680 Speaker 1: like energizing effect through the whole team. I will say 576 00:27:04,720 --> 00:27:08,000 Speaker 1: one thing about the email. Even if Lamar is not 577 00:27:08,040 --> 00:27:10,280 Speaker 1: back at practice Wednesday, I think he needs to practice 578 00:27:10,280 --> 00:27:12,320 Speaker 1: at some point this week if he's gonna play, But 579 00:27:12,359 --> 00:27:14,240 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna rule him out if he's not practicing 580 00:27:14,280 --> 00:27:16,920 Speaker 1: on Wednesday. I think if Lamar Jackson, like he needs 581 00:27:16,920 --> 00:27:19,280 Speaker 1: to shake off some rust and get some practice, I think, 582 00:27:19,840 --> 00:27:22,560 Speaker 1: but if he's healthy enough to go on Thursday Friday, 583 00:27:23,160 --> 00:27:27,160 Speaker 1: wouldn't shock me if he's out there. Yeah, I mean, 584 00:27:27,400 --> 00:27:29,080 Speaker 1: you know, but but I think it's a very fair question, 585 00:27:29,119 --> 00:27:32,000 Speaker 1: like rusted, you know, as we talked about, Like you know, 586 00:27:32,160 --> 00:27:33,800 Speaker 1: I think it's a lot to expect Lamar to come 587 00:27:33,840 --> 00:27:37,080 Speaker 1: back and just be superman and and be at his best, 588 00:27:37,400 --> 00:27:41,159 Speaker 1: you know, after after having a month plus off. You know, 589 00:27:41,240 --> 00:27:43,440 Speaker 1: that's asking a lot. So you definitely want some practice 590 00:27:43,480 --> 00:27:46,520 Speaker 1: this week. But like you know, if he's ready later 591 00:27:46,560 --> 00:27:48,920 Speaker 1: in the week and not one Wednesday, is it worth 592 00:27:48,920 --> 00:27:51,200 Speaker 1: putting him in for a snoop? I don't know. I 593 00:27:51,560 --> 00:27:54,320 Speaker 1: defer to Lamar Jackson, is my feeling. But we'll see. 594 00:27:54,680 --> 00:27:57,800 Speaker 1: I think the biggest thing with on the practice front, like, yes, 595 00:27:57,840 --> 00:27:59,920 Speaker 1: there's the rush factor and you want to get in 596 00:28:00,000 --> 00:28:01,280 Speaker 1: to a group and kind of get back into a 597 00:28:01,359 --> 00:28:04,000 Speaker 1: rhythm and all that. I also think it's just like 598 00:28:04,240 --> 00:28:05,760 Speaker 1: you need to test he needs to test out the 599 00:28:05,800 --> 00:28:08,880 Speaker 1: knee and see how it feels in that type of situation. Now, 600 00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:10,920 Speaker 1: practice is going to be different than what he's gonna 601 00:28:10,920 --> 00:28:12,879 Speaker 1: be asked to do in a game. But I just 602 00:28:12,920 --> 00:28:16,520 Speaker 1: think that, like, he needs to feel good about where 603 00:28:16,560 --> 00:28:18,440 Speaker 1: the knee is. Like, if you remember last year, there 604 00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:20,439 Speaker 1: was that one practice he went out there and he 605 00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:24,040 Speaker 1: could hardly move. He tried and he was hobbling through it, 606 00:28:24,080 --> 00:28:26,360 Speaker 1: and it was like, Okay, this guy can't play. I'm 607 00:28:26,359 --> 00:28:28,600 Speaker 1: not saying that's the case with with him right now 608 00:28:28,640 --> 00:28:32,040 Speaker 1: at all. I'm just saying, like, you know, he needs 609 00:28:32,040 --> 00:28:34,240 Speaker 1: to get out there. You need to try it and 610 00:28:34,240 --> 00:28:36,400 Speaker 1: feel like, Okay, I feel it feels better than I thought, 611 00:28:36,440 --> 00:28:37,960 Speaker 1: it feels worse than I thought. I don't know. Like 612 00:28:38,040 --> 00:28:39,520 Speaker 1: you you need to get out there and try it 613 00:28:39,640 --> 00:28:41,840 Speaker 1: and then make that determination as to whether you can 614 00:28:41,840 --> 00:28:43,840 Speaker 1: play in the game. So if you don't practice on 615 00:28:43,880 --> 00:28:47,320 Speaker 1: Wednesday and you're just like kind of waiting until Friday, 616 00:28:47,800 --> 00:28:49,800 Speaker 1: that just doesn't It just gives you a very little 617 00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:52,600 Speaker 1: window of an opportunity to like get out there try 618 00:28:52,760 --> 00:28:56,520 Speaker 1: and then make a determination about how it feels. And also, like, yeah, 619 00:28:56,520 --> 00:28:58,200 Speaker 1: if he's not out there on Wednesday, I'll be nervous. 620 00:28:58,320 --> 00:29:02,600 Speaker 1: I'll admit I'll be nervous about Sad. I'll be nervous. Hunter. 621 00:29:02,680 --> 00:29:04,160 Speaker 1: I'm just saying I'm not gonna rule him out. But 622 00:29:04,200 --> 00:29:06,480 Speaker 1: if he's not out there Wednesday, obviously that's not a 623 00:29:06,480 --> 00:29:10,440 Speaker 1: good sign. Yeah, that'll be. But to your point about 624 00:29:10,440 --> 00:29:13,000 Speaker 1: like the energizing thing, Yeah, I think so, Like if 625 00:29:13,040 --> 00:29:16,760 Speaker 1: he comes out there on Wednesday, you know, in practices, 626 00:29:17,000 --> 00:29:20,320 Speaker 1: I think that that will lift everybody's spirit. And if 627 00:29:20,480 --> 00:29:23,280 Speaker 1: he looks good, feels good, it's confident about where he is, 628 00:29:23,320 --> 00:29:26,160 Speaker 1: Like everybody will be like, all right, like we got 629 00:29:26,200 --> 00:29:28,320 Speaker 1: our guy back, time to go make a run. That's 630 00:29:28,320 --> 00:29:30,640 Speaker 1: the vibe, that's the feeling that like Ravens fans will have, 631 00:29:30,680 --> 00:29:34,160 Speaker 1: players will have, everyone will think that. And so that's 632 00:29:34,360 --> 00:29:37,000 Speaker 1: that's for good reason. Like, as I've said before, he's 633 00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:38,600 Speaker 1: one of the most dynamic players in the league. So 634 00:29:38,600 --> 00:29:42,040 Speaker 1: you get him back, who knows where that can take you. Yep, 635 00:29:42,200 --> 00:29:46,440 Speaker 1: I totally agree. Uh alright, any other partying thoughts for you, Garrett, No, 636 00:29:46,560 --> 00:29:48,760 Speaker 1: I don't think so. I mean, you know I think 637 00:29:48,800 --> 00:29:52,360 Speaker 1: that it's um, I'm excited. I'm just I just feel 638 00:29:52,360 --> 00:29:54,960 Speaker 1: like this game, it's Sunday night football if you haven't 639 00:29:54,960 --> 00:29:56,760 Speaker 1: seen that. By the way, it's a fifteen. It's gonna 640 00:29:56,760 --> 00:30:01,000 Speaker 1: be on Sunday night, so night game like playoff atmosphere, 641 00:30:01,360 --> 00:30:04,920 Speaker 1: not playoff atmosphere playoffs. Yeah, it's gonna be awesome. It's 642 00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:06,880 Speaker 1: just gonna be it's gonna be awesome. It's gonna be 643 00:30:06,880 --> 00:30:09,120 Speaker 1: awesome between two division rivals who seem to have this 644 00:30:09,840 --> 00:30:12,000 Speaker 1: this rivalry only seems to be getting more intense, like 645 00:30:12,080 --> 00:30:13,880 Speaker 1: this is what you want, this is what you want 646 00:30:14,120 --> 00:30:16,120 Speaker 1: in a playoff football game, and it's got all the 647 00:30:16,160 --> 00:30:20,160 Speaker 1: makings of being something special. Yeah, I totally agree. Thanks 648 00:30:20,160 --> 00:30:22,960 Speaker 1: for listening to everybody. As always, email us at the 649 00:30:23,040 --> 00:30:26,240 Speaker 1: lounge at Raven's dot NFL dot net and we will 650 00:30:26,280 --> 00:30:28,040 Speaker 1: be back with you later this week.