WEBVTT - Bengals Booth Podcast: Getting To Know You 0:00:03.600 --> 0:00:06.480 Hi, get everybody on Dan Horde, and thanks for downloading 0:00:06.480 --> 0:00:12.080 the Bengals Booth podcast, the Getting to Know You, Getting 0:00:12.080 --> 0:00:18.000 to Know All about You. Addition, as the Bengals get 0:00:18.040 --> 0:00:20.880 ready for their first head to head meeting with Joe 0:00:20.960 --> 0:00:24.280 Burrow and the other top prospects in this year's draft 0:00:24.640 --> 0:00:28.920 at the NFL Scouting Combine in Indianapolis coming up, I'll 0:00:28.920 --> 0:00:31.520 discuss that and much more with my broadcast partner, Dave 0:00:31.600 --> 0:00:35.720 Lappall our topics include Joe Burrow's most recent comments about 0:00:35.800 --> 0:00:38.200 possibly being the number one pick in this year's draft. 0:00:38.720 --> 0:00:41.519 I'll ask Lap if he would vote yes or no 0:00:42.200 --> 0:00:45.400 on the new collective bargaining agreement proposal that the owners 0:00:45.400 --> 0:00:48.080 have approved. And best of all, Lapp will answer the 0:00:48.159 --> 0:00:53.199 questions you submitted on Twitter and Facebook under the hashtag 0:00:53.560 --> 0:00:57.200 ask Lap. That's straight ahead. 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So the next time 0:01:37.319 --> 0:01:42.520 you have a nasty cold, try Airborne vitamin tablets in 0:01:42.640 --> 0:01:47.160 grapefruit juice. It tastes good too. Now let's get to football, 0:01:47.240 --> 0:01:50.400 where it's time to ask lap Lap. I don't know 0:01:50.440 --> 0:01:52.600 if you are familiar with this, but there was recently 0:01:52.640 --> 0:01:56.480 a twenty eighth amendment added to the Constitution which dictates 0:01:56.480 --> 0:02:00.400 all Bengals podcasts must begin with a discussion of Joe Burrow. 0:02:01.000 --> 0:02:03.200 Here's what I want to start with today. Joe Burrow's 0:02:03.240 --> 0:02:05.920 recent comments to the Fort Worth Star Telegram when he 0:02:05.960 --> 0:02:08.920 was there to accept the Davey O'Brien award, which included 0:02:08.919 --> 0:02:11.959 a Rolex watch. By the way, that was nice. When 0:02:12.080 --> 0:02:15.560 asked about being drafted by Cincinnati, here's what Joe Burrow 0:02:15.639 --> 0:02:18.320 had to say, quote, I am blessed to be in 0:02:18.360 --> 0:02:21.840 the position I'm in. If they select me, they select me, 0:02:21.960 --> 0:02:24.440 I'm going to do everything in my power to be 0:02:24.480 --> 0:02:27.440 the best football player that I can be. That all 0:02:27.440 --> 0:02:30.880 sounds good, But he also said, I'm not exactly sure 0:02:30.880 --> 0:02:34.280 what the question was. I do have leverage. They have 0:02:34.400 --> 0:02:38.760 their process and I have my process. So what did 0:02:38.760 --> 0:02:43.280 you make of those comments? They were they were kind 0:02:43.320 --> 0:02:46.520 of North and South Bowl a little bit, you know, 0:02:46.720 --> 0:02:50.360 the first comment, obviously, I was impressed by, you know, 0:02:51.440 --> 0:02:54.240 he's a competitor. In talking with his teammates that were 0:02:54.280 --> 0:02:57.239 down at the Senior Bowl, particularly the offensive lineman from LSU, 0:02:58.080 --> 0:03:01.680 that's all they said was, you know, cold blooded competitor um, 0:03:01.840 --> 0:03:05.120 but in all the right ways. You know, no, uh, 0:03:05.400 --> 0:03:09.160 nothing negative, all positive and how he led and uh 0:03:09.520 --> 0:03:12.720 and how he set goals and achieved his goals and 0:03:13.000 --> 0:03:15.120 everything that went along with it. And so I'm thinking, well, 0:03:15.160 --> 0:03:18.600 here's a guy that with all the people saying, you know, 0:03:18.600 --> 0:03:21.880 oh Jesus Cincinnati Bengals two and fourteen a joke. You know, 0:03:21.880 --> 0:03:23.519 why would you who would want to play for that 0:03:23.520 --> 0:03:25.760 football He made it sound like he wanted to be 0:03:25.800 --> 0:03:28.919 part of the solution and turnaround, and you know, a 0:03:29.000 --> 0:03:32.760 guy part of it would be the next chapter of 0:03:32.880 --> 0:03:36.800 the Joe Burrow Made for TV movie and that you know, 0:03:37.280 --> 0:03:40.240 comes out of nowhere, because I'm looking at uh, I'm 0:03:40.240 --> 0:03:44.560 looking at all these publications before the twenty nineteen seasons started, 0:03:44.920 --> 0:03:47.480 Joe Burrows not even talked about. I mean, he's not 0:03:47.560 --> 0:03:51.240 even discussed Day two pick. Yeah, day two pick, and 0:03:51.920 --> 0:03:54.640 his LSUS not even in pick to be in the 0:03:54.920 --> 0:03:57.960 in the playoffs, you know, I mean, the LSU's not 0:03:57.960 --> 0:04:01.400 talked about. Joe Burrows not talked about. You know, it's 0:04:01.480 --> 0:04:05.480 Joe Brady's not talks about. And it is a storybook 0:04:05.760 --> 0:04:08.880 deal what they did, you know how, and they've all benefited. 0:04:08.960 --> 0:04:12.880 Joe Brady is now an offensive coordinator Carolina Panthers, Joe 0:04:12.920 --> 0:04:14.560 Burrow is about to be the first pick of the 0:04:14.640 --> 0:04:17.520 NFL draft, and it would be the next chapter of 0:04:18.080 --> 0:04:21.880 that story. I think, why not take a guy, you know, 0:04:22.000 --> 0:04:27.280 the the come from nowhere Heisman Trophy winner who had 0:04:27.320 --> 0:04:30.200 the most prolific quarterback season the history of college football 0:04:30.760 --> 0:04:35.440 on all levels every way you measure it. It was unbelievable. 0:04:35.560 --> 0:04:38.640 Never had even come close to having a season like 0:04:38.720 --> 0:04:42.440 Joe Burrow head. So why not the next step go 0:04:42.480 --> 0:04:44.880 to the National Football League, take a two win team 0:04:44.920 --> 0:04:48.440 to nine or ten wins and make him playoff competitive 0:04:48.440 --> 0:04:50.760 and be part of the solution. I like that. I 0:04:50.839 --> 0:04:55.040 like that that part of it. You know, he has 0:04:54.839 --> 0:04:58.320 his leverage. What is that? I don't know. I really 0:04:58.360 --> 0:05:00.599 can't figure it. The leverage is you don't play for 0:05:00.600 --> 0:05:04.159 a year. And I don't see the Borough family, the father, mother, 0:05:04.640 --> 0:05:07.600 two brothers that played at Nebraska, one played safety, one 0:05:07.600 --> 0:05:13.400 played linebacker. Football family to the nth degree. I don't 0:05:13.440 --> 0:05:17.359 see that a guy who came from that environment with 0:05:17.480 --> 0:05:19.520 a mindset to sit out a year. He's also going 0:05:19.560 --> 0:05:21.840 to be twenty four this year. Yeah exactly. I mean 0:05:22.160 --> 0:05:27.520 the clock's ticking, you know. Um, I just I guess 0:05:27.560 --> 0:05:29.360 that's what he's talking about. I don't know. He might. 0:05:29.520 --> 0:05:33.320 He may have been in an off in a very 0:05:33.440 --> 0:05:36.400 very far stretched way talking about well Eli Manning. He 0:05:36.520 --> 0:05:40.120 dictated where you know, he went. John Elway dictated what 0:05:40.240 --> 0:05:45.080 happened with him in terms of the draft. Um, you know, yeah, 0:05:45.120 --> 0:05:48.760 that did happen. John Elway had baseball as leverage, correct 0:05:48.800 --> 0:05:52.000 it went and played minor league organization. Yeah right, he 0:05:52.080 --> 0:05:55.479 was in the Yankees organization and a good prospect, you know, 0:05:55.560 --> 0:05:58.920 could have maybe played, maybe made the major leagues as 0:05:58.960 --> 0:06:03.560 a baseball player. Joe Burrow was an All State basketball player. 0:06:03.839 --> 0:06:07.080 I mean, what is the NBA bound doubt it? You know, so, 0:06:07.240 --> 0:06:10.640 I mean I don't understand you know that that leverage 0:06:10.640 --> 0:06:13.120 part of it, that that he's talking about, other than 0:06:13.640 --> 0:06:17.680 you know, just uh, just maybe letting in a way, 0:06:17.760 --> 0:06:20.800 letting other teams know, look, go ahead and trade for me. 0:06:21.160 --> 0:06:22.960 You know, if you're thinking about making an offer, go 0:06:23.000 --> 0:06:25.600 ahead and make an offer to the Bengals, because you know, 0:06:26.320 --> 0:06:28.800 I'm trying to establish as much leverage as I possibly can. 0:06:29.200 --> 0:06:31.000 Instead of coming out and saying, you know, I want 0:06:31.040 --> 0:06:32.760 to be a Cincinnati Bengal. I look forward to be 0:06:32.760 --> 0:06:35.960 in a Cincinnati Bengal. That's what everybody in Bengaledon wants 0:06:36.000 --> 0:06:38.120 to hear. He's not going to say that, you know, 0:06:38.680 --> 0:06:42.520 because you know what if it's traded, you know, now 0:06:42.560 --> 0:06:44.120 all of a sudden, Well I really did want to 0:06:44.120 --> 0:06:45.920 be a Bengal, but now I'm glad to be a whatever. 0:06:46.320 --> 0:06:48.880 I mean, you can you can rationalize it that way. 0:06:49.640 --> 0:06:51.840 I know all Bengal fans would love to see him say, look, 0:06:51.880 --> 0:06:54.359 no matter, I'm fine, I'm I want to be a 0:06:54.400 --> 0:06:58.640 Cincinnati Bengal. They've had a great quarterback history and tradition there. 0:06:58.800 --> 0:07:00.479 I want to add my name to that list of 0:07:00.560 --> 0:07:03.800 great quarterbacks with the Cincinnati Bengals. That's exactly what bengaldu 0:07:03.880 --> 0:07:06.480 would like to hear, but they're not going to hear it. Well, 0:07:06.560 --> 0:07:09.040 maybe they could hear it at the combine. He's scheduled 0:07:09.040 --> 0:07:11.080 to do a news conference on Tuesday, I believe. But 0:07:11.160 --> 0:07:13.640 let's talk about the count the scouting combine, which gets 0:07:13.720 --> 0:07:16.720 underway this weekend and runs all of next week with 0:07:16.800 --> 0:07:19.160 the drills in prime time for the first time. So 0:07:19.200 --> 0:07:21.640 if you want to watch guys in primetime running the 0:07:21.680 --> 0:07:24.040 forty and doing the bench press, you're gonna have your 0:07:24.120 --> 0:07:26.520 chance this week. But this will also be the Bengals 0:07:26.560 --> 0:07:29.120 opportunity to sit down face to face with forty five 0:07:29.200 --> 0:07:32.160 players for eighteen minutes apiece. And I've got to assume 0:07:32.200 --> 0:07:35.240 that Joe Burrows on that list be the first opportunity 0:07:35.280 --> 0:07:39.200 to do that with him. Normally, the player is trying 0:07:39.240 --> 0:07:43.480 to impress the team. Do the Bengals need to impress 0:07:43.760 --> 0:07:48.200 Joe Burrow with their vision for his future? I think so. 0:07:48.520 --> 0:07:52.000 I think it would be if I were Joe Burrow. 0:07:52.360 --> 0:07:55.080 The first question when they say you know, they're fire 0:07:55.160 --> 0:07:57.960 questions at Joe Burrow and then probably at the end, 0:07:57.960 --> 0:08:00.280 if there's time, they say, do you have any questions us? 0:08:00.800 --> 0:08:04.680 My question would be, if I'm Joe Burrow, what's your plan? 0:08:05.280 --> 0:08:08.520 You know, how do you how do you foresee what 0:08:09.040 --> 0:08:11.760 changes will be made in terms of personnel, philosophy, or 0:08:11.760 --> 0:08:14.880 whatever the case may be to turn around a two 0:08:14.880 --> 0:08:18.920 win team. I'm not the If you think drafting Joe 0:08:18.960 --> 0:08:22.080 Burrow solves all your problems, I'm here to tell you 0:08:22.320 --> 0:08:25.040 they probably don't. What else are we talking about? That's 0:08:25.040 --> 0:08:27.480 what I would ask, you know, I would put on 0:08:27.520 --> 0:08:30.240 my humble hat. You know, I have confidence in my ability, 0:08:30.280 --> 0:08:33.000 but me single handedly is not going to take a 0:08:33.000 --> 0:08:36.200 team from two wins to ten wins. What else are 0:08:36.200 --> 0:08:38.880 we talking about? And I do think, you know, they 0:08:39.280 --> 0:08:42.640 should have some sort of an idea or some sort 0:08:42.679 --> 0:08:45.559 of a plan to present him, because he's going to 0:08:45.640 --> 0:08:48.320 sell them very quickly on his personality. I mean, I 0:08:48.320 --> 0:08:53.000 think they already know enough, so I think I think 0:08:53.080 --> 0:08:56.000 that interview session is going to be a lot different 0:08:56.200 --> 0:08:58.040 than just about all the others. I think all the 0:08:58.040 --> 0:09:00.240 others are going to be more fact finding. He is 0:09:00.280 --> 0:09:03.360 so overexposed at this point. I mean, everybody knows everything 0:09:03.400 --> 0:09:07.040 about Joe Burrow's life. His football life is private life, 0:09:07.040 --> 0:09:11.000 every aspect of the Joe Burrow story. So yeah, I would. 0:09:11.040 --> 0:09:14.360 I would. I would get to the next level of um, 0:09:14.600 --> 0:09:17.720 you know, drilling down as quickly as I kid could 0:09:17.720 --> 0:09:21.880 with Joe, and I would. I would see, um, you know, 0:09:22.240 --> 0:09:26.800 with his football acumen. You really you and Joe Brady connected. 0:09:27.000 --> 0:09:30.120 What was it? What were the things that made your 0:09:30.160 --> 0:09:33.920 season so successful? Put up on the grease board here, things, 0:09:34.360 --> 0:09:37.400 you know, concepts that you guys implemented, things that you 0:09:37.440 --> 0:09:40.079 were looking for at all times. Tell us what the 0:09:40.200 --> 0:09:42.520 Joe Burrow season was like, you know, as you were 0:09:42.520 --> 0:09:46.480 preparing for an opponent and maybe taking through certain things 0:09:46.520 --> 0:09:48.120 and games and all that sort of thing. Just to 0:09:48.160 --> 0:09:51.000 confirm his football IQ, which everybody says, as you know, 0:09:51.480 --> 0:09:55.160 Suma cum laudy. So he's he's a football menza and 0:09:55.200 --> 0:09:57.800 he processes quickly. So I think they'll get through that 0:09:57.840 --> 0:10:00.600 pretty quickly too. But I do think, I do think 0:10:00.640 --> 0:10:05.640 the future plan is big for both parties. I did 0:10:05.679 --> 0:10:09.200 a rant on last week's podcast, first talking about how 0:10:09.280 --> 0:10:12.559 Joe Burrow had never said specifically that he didn't want 0:10:12.559 --> 0:10:14.720 to play for the Bengals, but then the second part 0:10:14.720 --> 0:10:16.960 of my rant had to do with this notion that 0:10:17.080 --> 0:10:19.199 he shouldn't want to come to Cincinnati, and I want 0:10:19.200 --> 0:10:21.560 to follow up on that because it continues to bother me. 0:10:22.040 --> 0:10:25.520 If those stories had been done in the late nineteen nineties, 0:10:25.520 --> 0:10:28.199 they would have been harder to refute during the so 0:10:28.240 --> 0:10:31.880 called lost decade. But you can't go to the playoffs 0:10:32.400 --> 0:10:37.160 six times in a seven year period by sheer luck. 0:10:37.559 --> 0:10:40.400 Can't be done in the NFL. I think Marvin Lewis 0:10:40.440 --> 0:10:42.600 deserves a lot of the credit for helping the Bengals 0:10:42.640 --> 0:10:46.839 modernize their organization. I think Duke Tobin is largely done 0:10:47.120 --> 0:10:50.280 an excellent job as a GM without having the title 0:10:50.400 --> 0:10:54.440 of GM. Why is it that two thousand and nine 0:10:54.840 --> 0:10:59.480 to two and fifteen doesn't seem to exist for so 0:10:59.520 --> 0:11:02.679 many of the national football commentators. Yeah, they look at 0:11:02.720 --> 0:11:05.920 it as, you know, as the anomaly of the blip, 0:11:05.960 --> 0:11:10.040 you know, the it just it's a unicorn. It doesn't belong, 0:11:10.280 --> 0:11:12.880 you know, And and I can see that for a year. 0:11:13.520 --> 0:11:15.920 But when you're to the point where you're you know, 0:11:16.000 --> 0:11:19.880 perpetually at five straight you know, six out of seven, 0:11:20.400 --> 0:11:23.400 that kind of thing now becomes you know, very significant. 0:11:23.679 --> 0:11:27.080 And of course everybody is going is and should give 0:11:27.080 --> 0:11:28.840 Marvin Lewis a lot of credit. I mean, he was 0:11:29.360 --> 0:11:32.520 there for sixteen years and made seven playoffs. Almost half 0:11:32.520 --> 0:11:34.959 of his coaching career he was in the playoffs for 0:11:35.000 --> 0:11:37.760 the Cincinnati Bengals. That's that's a record. I mean, five 0:11:37.800 --> 0:11:41.320 playoff appearances in a row as a record. But you know, 0:11:41.800 --> 0:11:44.000 people don't even talk about that. What they talk about 0:11:44.080 --> 0:11:48.040 is the last playoff win January nineteen ninety one. And 0:11:48.160 --> 0:11:51.439 you know, it's such a long drought. As every organization 0:11:51.440 --> 0:11:55.800 will tell you, it is hard to make the playoffs hard, 0:11:56.400 --> 0:11:59.120 and you know equally or even more so to win 0:11:59.120 --> 0:12:01.920 a playoff game, and that can be attested to obviously 0:12:01.920 --> 0:12:05.280 by this franchise. But to make the playoffs five years 0:12:05.280 --> 0:12:08.480 in a row, only a handful of teams, you know, 0:12:08.600 --> 0:12:11.240 organizations have done that. It's it's not like half the 0:12:11.320 --> 0:12:14.199 franchises in the National Football League. I think it's maybe, 0:12:14.280 --> 0:12:16.080 you know, maybe more a little more than a handful, 0:12:16.120 --> 0:12:18.280 like six, I think of maybe done. It got into 0:12:18.280 --> 0:12:21.679 the playoffs five straight seasons at any time. So um, 0:12:22.040 --> 0:12:24.960 it's it's not it's not something to take lightly, but 0:12:25.800 --> 0:12:29.960 I think you know the easy um comment on that 0:12:30.160 --> 0:12:34.040 is everybody's saying that was Marvin Lewis. Marvin Lewis is 0:12:34.200 --> 0:12:36.640 now at Arizona State. Marvin Lewis isn't part of the 0:12:36.679 --> 0:12:41.080 Bengals organization anymore. So, UM, it's almost like, you know, 0:12:42.360 --> 0:12:45.800 Bill Belichick, Tom Brady? Is it? Is it? Tom Brady? 0:12:45.840 --> 0:12:48.440 Is it Bill Belichick? You know? Is it the Cincinnati Bengals? 0:12:48.600 --> 0:12:50.600 Is that Marvin Lewis? You know, you take Marvin Lewis 0:12:50.600 --> 0:12:54.680 out of the picture, what else is? Uh? Where's where's 0:12:54.720 --> 0:12:57.760 the light? Uh? In the Bengals organization. It's going to 0:12:57.840 --> 0:12:59.600 lead them out of the darkness currently with the two 0:12:59.600 --> 0:13:02.400 and fourth record, you know. So that's what that's what 0:13:02.600 --> 0:13:05.520 you know, I hear from a lot of people. We'll see, 0:13:05.600 --> 0:13:08.280 you know, and Marvin did do a great job of bringing, 0:13:08.520 --> 0:13:10.560 you know, the exposers that he had with the Baltimore 0:13:10.559 --> 0:13:13.240 and Pittsburgh and those organizations. He did bring, you know 0:13:13.280 --> 0:13:16.920 a lot of that outside ideas and ways of doing 0:13:16.960 --> 0:13:20.360 things to the Cincinnati Bengals. Zach Taylor has had exposure 0:13:20.480 --> 0:13:24.440 multiple places himself, you know, Miami, LA, a college scene. 0:13:24.480 --> 0:13:27.720 You know, it's he has he has I'm sure some 0:13:27.840 --> 0:13:31.000 ideas as well. So we'll see how his are implemented. 0:13:31.720 --> 0:13:35.840 I'm not the only person annoyed by this thought process 0:13:35.880 --> 0:13:39.160 that the Bengals are completely incompetent. The current players are 0:13:39.200 --> 0:13:41.960 getting ticked off about it now as well, Tyler Boy, 0:13:42.120 --> 0:13:44.920 Joe Mixon, and Auden Tate among others tweeting about it 0:13:44.960 --> 0:13:48.560 this week. Do you think that the proving people wrong 0:13:48.760 --> 0:13:51.520 thing is going to become a motivator for this year's team? 0:13:52.240 --> 0:13:56.040 Players always look athletes always look for the chip to 0:13:56.040 --> 0:13:59.400 put on their shoulder, and this one is not a chip. 0:13:59.440 --> 0:14:03.160 It's the old two by four. Yeah, I mean, guys. 0:14:03.520 --> 0:14:08.319 One thing that guys have that ascend to this level 0:14:08.760 --> 0:14:12.840 of professionalism in terms of sports or anything really, any 0:14:12.880 --> 0:14:17.520 any um you know, job that you try to you 0:14:17.559 --> 0:14:20.400 seek to try to improve yourself on and be the 0:14:20.440 --> 0:14:22.800 best you can be, is pride. You know, these guys 0:14:22.800 --> 0:14:27.280 have big time personal pride, and they feel like they're 0:14:27.320 --> 0:14:31.080 being personally attacked, even even if it's just it's when 0:14:31.120 --> 0:14:34.280 they see Cincinnati Bengals, they see themselves, I mean that 0:14:34.640 --> 0:14:37.760 it's it's you. I mean they're just totally tied together, 0:14:38.240 --> 0:14:41.400 So they feel like they're being attacked by people, not 0:14:41.440 --> 0:14:46.320 just organizationally or coaching staff board. It's like me, I'm 0:14:46.360 --> 0:14:49.200 being attacked and my teammates are being attacked. So I'm 0:14:49.200 --> 0:14:51.480 gonna come to the I'm going to come to my defense. 0:14:51.560 --> 0:14:53.680 I'm going to come to my teammates defense. And the 0:14:53.720 --> 0:14:55.880 best way to do that is to is to shut 0:14:56.000 --> 0:14:58.560 The best way to shut people up to win football games, 0:14:58.680 --> 0:15:01.560 to play better. So I do think there's a big 0:15:01.640 --> 0:15:04.320 chip there, and I do think guys that will be 0:15:04.320 --> 0:15:07.840 part of their motivation. There's no about it. They have 0:15:07.920 --> 0:15:09.840 plenty of material for a bulletin board. In fact, they 0:15:09.840 --> 0:15:11.520 could fill a bulletin board. There would be a city 0:15:11.520 --> 0:15:15.640 block big. There's all kinds of stuff out there. Man. 0:15:16.560 --> 0:15:18.720 All right, let's get to the big breaking news in 0:15:18.720 --> 0:15:21.040 the NFL. We interrupt the Joe Burrow portion of the 0:15:21.040 --> 0:15:24.080 show to get to this. The owners have approved a 0:15:24.200 --> 0:15:27.960 new collective bargaining agreement. Now it goes to the thirty 0:15:27.960 --> 0:15:31.320 two player reps. They have to approve it by a 0:15:31.320 --> 0:15:34.160 two thirds majority, and if that happens, then it goes 0:15:34.200 --> 0:15:37.720 to the roughly two thousand players as a whole. They vote, 0:15:37.960 --> 0:15:39.640 and then it would just have to pass by a 0:15:39.720 --> 0:15:43.960 simple majority, and that would mean ten years of labor piece. 0:15:44.480 --> 0:15:46.160 Some of the things that are in there. It calls 0:15:46.160 --> 0:15:49.760 for the possibility of a seventeen game regular season that 0:15:49.760 --> 0:15:52.360 would apparently kick in as soon as twenty twenty two. 0:15:52.400 --> 0:15:55.720 It calls for an expanded playoff field, one more playoff 0:15:55.720 --> 0:15:58.400 team from each conference that could actually go into effect 0:15:58.560 --> 0:16:02.520 this year if this gets approved quickly. There's some other 0:16:02.640 --> 0:16:06.120 stuff in there that benefits the players, like a bigger 0:16:06.160 --> 0:16:09.360 share of the total revenue pie. If there's a seventeen 0:16:09.400 --> 0:16:13.760 game schedule, they could make five more billion dollars over 0:16:13.800 --> 0:16:17.280 the next ten years if this thing gets approved. Here's 0:16:17.320 --> 0:16:19.800 my question for you, if you are an active player 0:16:19.920 --> 0:16:23.360 right now, based then what you've read and heard, would 0:16:23.400 --> 0:16:26.240 you vote yes or no? I would vote yes because 0:16:26.280 --> 0:16:28.040 I think I think a lot of the things that 0:16:28.080 --> 0:16:31.760 they're addressing in there. The big money players are going 0:16:31.840 --> 0:16:36.200 to say no. J. J. Watts already come out absolutely no. 0:16:36.800 --> 0:16:39.200 He's got hundreds of millions of dollars in the bank. 0:16:40.280 --> 0:16:42.320 This All they have to do is have fifty one 0:16:42.360 --> 0:16:45.720 percent of the rank and file of the players vote yes. 0:16:47.080 --> 0:16:52.000 Five percent of the players get humongous money. They're talking 0:16:52.000 --> 0:16:56.360 about on that seventeenth game, capping a quarter million bucks 0:16:56.360 --> 0:16:58.400 for that game. You know, well, there'll be five percent 0:16:58.440 --> 0:16:59.800 of the players that have a real problem with that 0:17:00.000 --> 0:17:01.800 because they make a lot more than that, which is 0:17:01.840 --> 0:17:05.480 incredible two hundred and fifty thousand dollars per game, Oh 0:17:05.480 --> 0:17:12.639 my god. But a big number of people over fifty 0:17:12.680 --> 0:17:15.760 percent would be like, yeah, I do that seventeenth game 0:17:15.840 --> 0:17:19.600 and get that get that extra money. I mean, my 0:17:19.720 --> 0:17:23.040 career is is it going to be well I even 0:17:23.080 --> 0:17:26.000 get vested? Will I be around long enough to be vested? 0:17:26.880 --> 0:17:29.400 I mean, the number of people that are fortunate enough 0:17:29.440 --> 0:17:31.680 to play, you know, ten years or more in the 0:17:31.760 --> 0:17:34.560 National Football League's not a huge number. It's two thousand 0:17:34.600 --> 0:17:37.400 players to begin with, and then the players are making 0:17:37.400 --> 0:17:40.600 this humongous money. Is five percent of those two thousand players, 0:17:40.640 --> 0:17:43.520 it's it's not you know, you know, you're talking seventy 0:17:43.560 --> 0:17:45.840 guys maybe you know, or you know, not even that 0:17:46.000 --> 0:17:50.119 sixty some odd guys. So it's not. I think I 0:17:50.160 --> 0:17:52.440 think it would be the tail wagging the dog if 0:17:52.440 --> 0:17:56.040 those sixty five people determine the fates of all those others, 0:17:56.119 --> 0:17:58.280 you know. So I think it's going to pass, and 0:17:58.320 --> 0:18:01.440 I think it probably should. And because there's a lot 0:18:01.480 --> 0:18:04.359 of things I mean they're talking about with the seventeenth game, 0:18:04.720 --> 0:18:08.240 they're talking about bringing more people off ir the's more 0:18:08.320 --> 0:18:11.520 more readily. They're talking about activating an extra linement offensive 0:18:11.520 --> 0:18:15.600 linement on game day. So so seventeen it's like, okay, well, 0:18:15.760 --> 0:18:18.560 we don't want teams limping in, gimping to the playoffs. 0:18:18.600 --> 0:18:20.920 We still want it to be good football. So they're 0:18:20.960 --> 0:18:23.359 saying that the practices is going to be a lighter 0:18:23.400 --> 0:18:25.920 you know, workload is going to be a big factor 0:18:26.640 --> 0:18:30.359 with this. With the seventeenth game, um, I think I 0:18:30.400 --> 0:18:34.080 think it'll quickly go to eighteen because seventeen that odd number. 0:18:34.680 --> 0:18:37.320 Where's that game going to be played every other every 0:18:37.320 --> 0:18:39.879 other season? You'd have an extra home game than other teams. 0:18:40.240 --> 0:18:42.720 I think it's going to be a neutral site where 0:18:42.760 --> 0:18:45.320 they're trying to you know, generate some interests as the 0:18:45.400 --> 0:18:48.840 next NFL franchises, have teams go there and play wherever 0:18:48.840 --> 0:18:52.200 they may be around the country. And then world international, Yeah, 0:18:52.400 --> 0:18:56.160 go to Mexico. You're even talking Brazil, you know, London. Yeah, 0:18:56.160 --> 0:18:58.800 I think that's a great idea rather than having a 0:18:58.840 --> 0:19:02.720 team in London. Didn't use that seventeenth game to play 0:19:02.760 --> 0:19:05.920 a bunch of games over there and then a handful 0:19:05.960 --> 0:19:12.720 of others in Germany, Mexico, Canada, whatever they're talking. So yeah, 0:19:12.760 --> 0:19:16.760 I mean, and make it more of an international, international scope. 0:19:16.800 --> 0:19:21.400 And why would you do that? Dollars? I mean, that's 0:19:21.480 --> 0:19:24.520 that's the bottom line. It's it's all about the dollars. 0:19:24.520 --> 0:19:27.560 And really, uh, it's it's a brilliant move to try 0:19:27.600 --> 0:19:29.959 to get this collective barring a riem and done because 0:19:30.320 --> 0:19:34.040 the next network contract is twenty twenty one. So if 0:19:34.040 --> 0:19:36.560 they have this in place, we have more revenue for 0:19:36.600 --> 0:19:40.040 you more you know, um, not more, we have more 0:19:40.440 --> 0:19:43.720 inventory for you that needs more revenue for us. Um. 0:19:44.240 --> 0:19:47.080 You know. The extra playoff game. Could it be a 0:19:47.080 --> 0:19:48.920 Monday and night football game? That would make the Monday 0:19:49.000 --> 0:19:52.679 night football package much more lucrative, you know, And and 0:19:52.920 --> 0:19:55.679 the extra playoff game that's just that's just two teams. 0:19:56.280 --> 0:19:59.120 You know that If they do that, the extra playoff game, 0:19:59.160 --> 0:20:00.560 I think is going to be a no brainer. I 0:20:00.640 --> 0:20:03.240 think that's now the seventeenth game. There may be a 0:20:03.240 --> 0:20:05.680 little bit more, a little bit more push and pull 0:20:05.720 --> 0:20:08.000 on that because you know, you're talking about player safety 0:20:08.040 --> 0:20:09.840 and how are we going to address that? And that's 0:20:09.880 --> 0:20:13.680 the biggest thing supposedly for CTE Concussion Protocol blah blah, 0:20:14.160 --> 0:20:16.320 So that that's gonna that's gonna get a little bit 0:20:16.359 --> 0:20:19.000 of a pushback. And I do see them going from 0:20:19.040 --> 0:20:23.200 seventeen fairly quickly to eighteen, and they're they're asking permission 0:20:23.400 --> 0:20:26.120 to go to seventeen and asking permission to go to eighteen. So, 0:20:26.200 --> 0:20:29.240 like you say, probably it won't happen in the twenty 0:20:29.280 --> 0:20:32.440 twenty two maybe not even twenty twenty or twenty twenty 0:20:32.440 --> 0:20:36.040 one season, maybe twenty twenty two for the seventy seventeenth game, 0:20:36.320 --> 0:20:40.040 and real quickly it may be they may say, Okay, 0:20:40.320 --> 0:20:42.960 we'll do the seventeenth game in twenty twenty two. In 0:20:42.960 --> 0:20:45.359 the eighteenth game would be in twenty twenty three, if 0:20:45.359 --> 0:20:47.440 they have all that time maybe to get ready for 0:20:47.520 --> 0:20:50.000 I could, I could see them. Odd number is weird 0:20:50.040 --> 0:20:53.080 to me, that odd number. I think I think it's 0:20:53.080 --> 0:20:55.800 a scheduling nightmare. My guess though on that, and I 0:20:55.840 --> 0:20:58.960 could be wrong, is that you know they'll go to 0:20:59.040 --> 0:21:02.399 seventeen for a while. You think I just have a 0:21:02.400 --> 0:21:04.879 hard time because that's going to be the sticking point 0:21:04.920 --> 0:21:09.200 because of health concerns. Will you accept another game of punishment? 0:21:09.200 --> 0:21:11.360 To your body. I just think it would maybe even 0:21:11.359 --> 0:21:14.359 the entire ten year term before they can then try 0:21:14.400 --> 0:21:17.000 to sell them on eighteen. Really. See, I was thinking 0:21:17.040 --> 0:21:18.840 the other way. I was thinking that if they get 0:21:18.920 --> 0:21:21.760 seventeen in, because ultimately I think they'd like to go 0:21:21.840 --> 0:21:24.480 eighteen and two. I mean I think that's the as 0:21:24.480 --> 0:21:27.360 in preseason two, right, Yeah, eighteen and two, and then 0:21:27.600 --> 0:21:32.400 everybody will have more combined workouts, two organizations getting together 0:21:32.440 --> 0:21:35.080 a training camp, and getting more workload done, you know, 0:21:35.119 --> 0:21:38.520 heavy workload done. That way, I could see that happening, 0:21:39.640 --> 0:21:43.320 and it would be controlled. Obviously, it wouldn't be as 0:21:43.359 --> 0:21:46.400 tough on bodies as even preseason games, which are very 0:21:46.440 --> 0:21:49.760 limited in terms of participation by players. But the preseason games, 0:21:50.000 --> 0:21:52.240 as we know, they've become a joke. I mean, there 0:21:52.240 --> 0:21:55.000 are teams in the NFL that don't play it their 0:21:55.000 --> 0:21:57.480 starters at all in the entire preseason, not just the 0:21:57.840 --> 0:22:03.080 fourth third preseason game. I mean play players just the 0:22:03.119 --> 0:22:05.520 third preseason game. Those starts for over half. They're not 0:22:05.560 --> 0:22:07.720