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Speaker 1: With Jenny Garth and Tori Spelling. Hey you guys, welcome

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Speaker 1: to another amazing episode of nine O two on O

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Speaker 1: mg UM with me and my fabulous co host Jenny Garth. Sissony,

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Speaker 1: two and hello everybody, welcome. How's it all going? How's

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Speaker 1: it happen? Can I just say that you're my spirit animal? Cis.

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Speaker 1: I can't believe that you in your last trimemester almost there,

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Speaker 1: less than a month left, flew to New York. You know.

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Speaker 1: It was one of those opportunities that I couldn't pass up.

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Speaker 1: A duh. You were great. You looked hot. For those

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Speaker 1: of us who don't know what we're talking about, we

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Speaker 1: CYCNY co hosted Live with Kelly and Ryan. She was

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Speaker 1: Kelly for Kelly and Ryan on it for a day,

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Speaker 1: surrounded by Kelly's Yes, I kind of like the sound

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Speaker 1: The tongue had to be so fun. I'm sure he

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Speaker 1: was happy to have you there with them. You know,

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Speaker 1: it's it's kind of effortless doing a show with them,

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Speaker 1: just because we do the radio show every single day,

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Speaker 1: so it's not much of a difference. It's like sometimes

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Speaker 1: and so like where's my mic? Where's yeah? And like that.

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Speaker 1: You don't have the audience like I've I've guessed I've

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Speaker 1: You looked beautiful and you did a great job. Thank you.

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Speaker 1: I appreciate that. Nothing that exciting going on around here.

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Speaker 1: Let me tell you, neither of us flew to New

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Speaker 1: York and hosted a national talk show. So I'm glad

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Speaker 1: you're world went. We've just been here watching the next

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Speaker 1: episode just every day since the last time we saw you.

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Speaker 1: We watched it over and over so we could really

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Speaker 1: be this is a heavy one, yeah, it was, and

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Speaker 1: not easy to find this one. This was episode fourteen

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Speaker 1: so again I watched the wrong episode. I watched the

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Speaker 1: one that I thought was the next episode, but it wasn't.

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Speaker 1: You're like a good girl, scout. You're totally prepared now

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Speaker 1: for I'm totally I'm over prepared over I hope I

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Speaker 1: don't get them confused. But this week's episode was season fourteen,

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Speaker 1: Like I said, the next fifty years. It aired on

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Speaker 1: November seven. Synopsis. On Scott's sixteenth birthday, his mother gives

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Speaker 1: Donna and David the responsibility of rounding up people for

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Speaker 1: his birthday party to save it from being a social disaster.

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Speaker 1: Social dissa, master is what it became. Oh my gosh,

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Speaker 1: Maybe not a social disaster, but a tragic disaster. This

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Speaker 1: is the episode where Scott Scanlon plays with the gun

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Speaker 1: it's not available to stream? Is it because of the

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Speaker 1: context of the episode or because this is undeniably one

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Speaker 1: And um, I think people are mad that they can't

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Speaker 1: find it. I was mad because I had to look

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Speaker 1: saw the entire DVD set collection that Crystal sent me.

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Speaker 1: So I was like, pew, Crystal, you saved the day. Literally,

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Speaker 1: it was great. We got the DVD Dave and I

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Speaker 1: like clicker to. Things got a little heated in here.

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Speaker 1: There's so many episodes that the viewers can't watch on Hulu.

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Speaker 1: So I don't think I don't. I mean, I don't

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Speaker 1: and the real tough one. This episode was titled The

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Speaker 1: my goodness, what party? Who's what's whose kids? Bed? Was

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Speaker 1: a big temp. To put it that way. I wouldn't

426
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Speaker 1: be part of it if it wasn't a big time No,

427
00:25:03,080 --> 00:25:05,120
Speaker 1: I wouldn't think. So you have such a you're such

428
00:25:05,160 --> 00:25:06,800
Speaker 1: a you have such a big mind, and you're so

429
00:25:06,880 --> 00:25:11,359
Speaker 1: open to everyone and everything, and it's a good fit.

430
00:25:12,280 --> 00:25:15,520
Speaker 1: It is a good fit. What do you remember about

431
00:25:15,600 --> 00:25:19,320
Speaker 1: your like first time meeting me or like first time

432
00:25:19,359 --> 00:25:23,040
Speaker 1: on set being well, do you remember that? I do

433
00:25:23,200 --> 00:25:27,119
Speaker 1: remember it because it was so fascinating. Um, So I

434
00:25:27,200 --> 00:25:30,720
Speaker 1: think Perfect Mom was like the sixth episode or was

435
00:25:30,880 --> 00:25:34,200
Speaker 1: it wasn't the very beginning of the first series the

436
00:25:34,200 --> 00:25:40,040
Speaker 1: first season, It was several in but the show had

437
00:25:40,280 --> 00:25:44,840
Speaker 1: just started to take off like crazy. And so what

438
00:25:44,960 --> 00:25:50,000
Speaker 1: I feel like I got to watch was the effect

439
00:25:50,920 --> 00:25:54,240
Speaker 1: of this I didn't even know how to describe it.

440
00:25:54,359 --> 00:25:58,879
Speaker 1: You lived it, um, this um inordinate amount of fame

441
00:25:59,040 --> 00:26:03,200
Speaker 1: that started to affect you all, and and and how

442
00:26:03,320 --> 00:26:08,880
Speaker 1: you all handled it, found ways to deal with it um.

443
00:26:09,000 --> 00:26:12,679
Speaker 1: And at the beginning, there was, of course, there was

444
00:26:12,880 --> 00:26:15,840
Speaker 1: sort of an innocence to everybody. No nobody quite knew

445
00:26:15,840 --> 00:26:19,800
Speaker 1: what we were doing. And um, anyway, you guys were

446
00:26:19,800 --> 00:26:22,399
Speaker 1: all figuring each other out. That was all that was

447
00:26:22,520 --> 00:26:26,600
Speaker 1: very fascinating. And I what I remember, Jenny, is how

448
00:26:26,760 --> 00:26:28,760
Speaker 1: much fun it was to act with you like we

449
00:26:28,880 --> 00:26:32,159
Speaker 1: I feel like we really we had some good stuff

450
00:26:32,200 --> 00:26:35,640
Speaker 1: to do together. And I knew right then that we

451
00:26:35,640 --> 00:26:38,879
Speaker 1: were we would be great partners, which was fun. And

452
00:26:38,960 --> 00:26:42,639
Speaker 1: the other sort of hilarious thing was that, um, I

453
00:26:42,680 --> 00:26:45,520
Speaker 1: got to know some of the other parents on the show,

454
00:26:45,840 --> 00:26:48,760
Speaker 1: James ack House and Carol Potter, who I had not

455
00:26:48,880 --> 00:26:52,399
Speaker 1: met before, but that that those ended up being really

456
00:26:52,440 --> 00:26:57,080
Speaker 1: fun relationships. Also because you know, it was an interesting

457
00:26:57,480 --> 00:27:00,320
Speaker 1: um place to occupy on the show as a arrant,

458
00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:03,880
Speaker 1: because the stars were the young people and the parents

459
00:27:03,880 --> 00:27:06,760
Speaker 1: were the goofballs, right the kids actually knew better than

460
00:27:06,800 --> 00:27:08,640
Speaker 1: the parents, and it was like wait, wait, wait, wait,

461
00:27:08,720 --> 00:27:11,840
Speaker 1: there's something wrong at this picture. But anyway, um, that

462
00:27:11,920 --> 00:27:15,480
Speaker 1: was that was fascinating, just the whole thing. And also

463
00:27:15,520 --> 00:27:20,680
Speaker 1: I want to say, over the time watching the cast coalesce,

464
00:27:20,760 --> 00:27:24,080
Speaker 1: the crew coalesce, I mean, when we got into seasons

465
00:27:24,320 --> 00:27:26,600
Speaker 1: I don't even know, like four or five, it was

466
00:27:26,680 --> 00:27:30,480
Speaker 1: like a well oiled machine and that was really kind

467
00:27:30,520 --> 00:27:35,400
Speaker 1: of wonderful to go to work in that environment, it seemed.

468
00:27:35,520 --> 00:27:37,040
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know how it was from your

469
00:27:37,040 --> 00:27:40,080
Speaker 1: guy's perspective. I mean, there were ups and downs, no question,

470
00:27:40,880 --> 00:27:44,399
Speaker 1: but um, by the middle of the run, it just

471
00:27:44,440 --> 00:27:47,440
Speaker 1: seemed like it was a pretty happy place to work.

472
00:27:47,560 --> 00:27:50,199
Speaker 1: So I hope that was your experience. I don't know.

473
00:27:50,520 --> 00:27:53,560
Speaker 1: We recently had Matthew Lawrence on the on the podcast

474
00:27:53,640 --> 00:27:55,399
Speaker 1: and it was so much fun for Tory and I

475
00:27:55,640 --> 00:27:58,400
Speaker 1: catch up with him and just see see him again.

476
00:27:58,440 --> 00:28:01,560
Speaker 1: He looks exactly the same, exactly the same. I know,

477
00:28:01,800 --> 00:28:04,200
Speaker 1: he I did one another thing with him team. I

478
00:28:04,240 --> 00:28:05,959
Speaker 1: was like, oh my god, he's telling the same stories.

479
00:28:05,960 --> 00:28:13,800
Speaker 1: And you and Carol are still friends, right, We well,

480
00:28:13,840 --> 00:28:18,200
Speaker 1: so we were buddies outside. We haven't recently but yes,

481
00:28:18,640 --> 00:28:20,600
Speaker 1: and um, I mean, one of the things that was

482
00:28:20,640 --> 00:28:24,159
Speaker 1: sort of, I think, very powerful for Matthew was that

483
00:28:24,920 --> 00:28:27,480
Speaker 1: when we got he and I got married on the show.

484
00:28:28,320 --> 00:28:31,320
Speaker 1: As he likes to tell the story, he'd never been

485
00:28:31,320 --> 00:28:34,040
Speaker 1: married before, so it was very emotional for him. And

486
00:28:34,080 --> 00:28:37,320
Speaker 1: then when my daughter Wesley was born, he he sort

487
00:28:37,320 --> 00:28:39,080
Speaker 1: of felt like he was had something to do with

488
00:28:39,120 --> 00:28:42,479
Speaker 1: it even and he you know, got her very sweet

489
00:28:42,480 --> 00:28:45,680
Speaker 1: gifts and things like that. But really interesting was that

490
00:28:45,880 --> 00:28:49,320
Speaker 1: my husband, Jeff and Matthew got to be buddies and

491
00:28:49,360 --> 00:28:52,920
Speaker 1: they would golf together and and anyway, and Matthew's got

492
00:28:52,920 --> 00:28:56,240
Speaker 1: a twin that Jeff also worked with anyway, so we

493
00:28:56,240 --> 00:28:58,840
Speaker 1: we we did have some friendship for a while. But

494
00:28:58,880 --> 00:29:01,160
Speaker 1: of course I haven't lived in California for a long time,

495
00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:04,280
Speaker 1: and neither as he he's in I don't where he

496
00:29:04,360 --> 00:29:08,200
Speaker 1: is in Kentucky or something. I didn't know this, but

497
00:29:08,320 --> 00:29:10,840
Speaker 1: you were the mom to some other actress out there,

498
00:29:10,880 --> 00:29:14,360
Speaker 1: which I thought was really rude, very rude. How could

499
00:29:14,400 --> 00:29:17,440
Speaker 1: you do that to her for another hit show? Though,

500
00:29:17,520 --> 00:29:20,520
Speaker 1: like you have a great track record. Well, I'm just

501
00:29:20,520 --> 00:29:23,360
Speaker 1: gonna say I sort of cornered the market on Bitchy

502
00:29:23,560 --> 00:29:27,960
Speaker 1: Rich moms. So I it was just one of those

503
00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:32,240
Speaker 1: things literally where I um, Amy who was putting together

504
00:29:32,280 --> 00:29:36,160
Speaker 1: the show of Gilmore Girls, just called me in and

505
00:29:36,200 --> 00:29:37,760
Speaker 1: she was she was like would you do this and

506
00:29:38,040 --> 00:29:41,480
Speaker 1: like yeah, with my hands tied behind my back. Um.

507
00:29:41,520 --> 00:29:46,400
Speaker 1: And it was literally one day. I think that was

508
00:29:46,480 --> 00:29:51,040
Speaker 1: it and one scene. But because I ripped poor Paris

509
00:29:51,880 --> 00:29:54,640
Speaker 1: a new one on the show, the character was so

510
00:29:54,800 --> 00:29:57,760
Speaker 1: mean to her. It was another one of those sort

511
00:29:57,760 --> 00:30:00,840
Speaker 1: of iconic episodes, and because it is also a super

512
00:30:00,840 --> 00:30:04,880
Speaker 1: popular show, a lot of people remembered it so um.

513
00:30:04,880 --> 00:30:07,640
Speaker 1: So I don't have hardly any memories of that except

514
00:30:07,920 --> 00:30:09,760
Speaker 1: that it was kind of fun to hang out with

515
00:30:09,800 --> 00:30:14,680
Speaker 1: Alexis and um Laura Laura was that was Lauren um

516
00:30:14,800 --> 00:30:17,080
Speaker 1: in the nakeup trail. That's kind of all I remember it.

517
00:30:18,320 --> 00:30:23,040
Speaker 1: You're on three iconic shows, basically Nine and Gilmore Girls.

518
00:30:23,080 --> 00:30:25,360
Speaker 1: I mean, amongst everything else you've done, your tell you

519
00:30:25,720 --> 00:30:29,000
Speaker 1: you'll this will crack you have. So of course, the

520
00:30:29,040 --> 00:30:31,640
Speaker 1: way it is, as you know, is that people still

521
00:30:31,720 --> 00:30:35,160
Speaker 1: recognize me or they or they often here my voice

522
00:30:35,200 --> 00:30:39,719
Speaker 1: and they're like, how do I know you? And you know, anyway,

523
00:30:39,800 --> 00:30:41,800
Speaker 1: if I have no recollection of them, it's usually because

524
00:30:41,800 --> 00:30:43,840
Speaker 1: I was in their living room on their telephone screen.

525
00:30:44,120 --> 00:30:46,920
Speaker 1: But um other the other show that I had a

526
00:30:46,960 --> 00:30:51,120
Speaker 1: recurring role on for a while was UM Well, I

527
00:30:51,160 --> 00:30:54,560
Speaker 1: did a couple of the Star Trek things, um Next Geration,

528
00:30:55,080 --> 00:30:59,120
Speaker 1: and um I was an alien. I was Ajar on

529
00:30:59,320 --> 00:31:04,320
Speaker 1: Deep Space nine. And those people are crazy. You think

530
00:31:04,320 --> 00:31:07,000
Speaker 1: the nine O two one oh fans are wild different.

531
00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:09,960
Speaker 1: I'm telling you. These people are still tragging me down

532
00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:14,320
Speaker 1: and asking me to sign things and anyway. But you know, anyway,

533
00:31:14,360 --> 00:31:17,760
Speaker 1: so it's hilarious. So so now in my in my

534
00:31:17,840 --> 00:31:21,680
Speaker 1: current life, people either remember me from nine oh tooe No,

535
00:31:21,920 --> 00:31:24,000
Speaker 1: or they remember me from Deep Space nine, which was

536
00:31:25,280 --> 00:31:28,520
Speaker 1: have you ever been doing a wedding or service? And

537
00:31:28,520 --> 00:31:31,120
Speaker 1: people are like, oh my god, that's Jackie Taylor. Oh.

538
00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:36,320
Speaker 1: Often often yes, yes, and and and and sometimes they

539
00:31:36,400 --> 00:31:39,800
Speaker 1: get it, uh, I don't know exactly where they know

540
00:31:39,960 --> 00:31:42,640
Speaker 1: me from. And other times there's sleep like this thing.

541
00:31:42,680 --> 00:31:44,800
Speaker 1: You can see it in their eyes like wait wait

542
00:31:45,720 --> 00:31:48,520
Speaker 1: you know, And often this I think is very amusing.

543
00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:52,200
Speaker 1: I sometimes take pity on them and I say, well,

544
00:31:52,640 --> 00:31:55,200
Speaker 1: I was on a show that you might have seen,

545
00:31:55,240 --> 00:31:57,400
Speaker 1: and they're like, oh, I don't, I don't watch television

546
00:31:57,760 --> 00:32:00,960
Speaker 1: and then I'll be like, well I was on nine

547
00:32:00,960 --> 00:32:03,640
Speaker 1: of them. Oh my god, that was my favorite show.

548
00:32:03,760 --> 00:32:07,440
Speaker 1: You know. Then it all comes out and you know,

549
00:32:07,600 --> 00:32:10,440
Speaker 1: you've watched you've watched it in your own lives, but

550
00:32:10,760 --> 00:32:13,680
Speaker 1: the people for whom it's a big deal, it's a

551
00:32:13,760 --> 00:32:16,760
Speaker 1: huge deal. And then there's other people are like, oh, yeah,

552
00:32:16,800 --> 00:32:19,080
Speaker 1: that I never saw it. I never watched it. So

553
00:32:19,160 --> 00:32:23,960
Speaker 1: it's just this funny cultural phenomenon. And of course, because

554
00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:28,800
Speaker 1: it's been airing continually, my daughter's friends would be like, oh,

555
00:32:28,840 --> 00:32:32,240
Speaker 1: I saw your mom on TV today, you know. And anyway,

556
00:32:32,320 --> 00:32:37,320
Speaker 1: it's it's it's kind of a lovely legacy now that

557
00:32:37,440 --> 00:32:42,840
Speaker 1: it's um, you know, yes, do do you miss being

558
00:32:42,840 --> 00:32:45,200
Speaker 1: an actress? I mean, you were so good at it,

559
00:32:45,240 --> 00:32:51,440
Speaker 1: you're so gifted actress that I do let's miss it? Well, well,

560
00:32:52,080 --> 00:32:55,280
Speaker 1: so I don't. Here's what I don't miss. I don't

561
00:32:55,360 --> 00:33:01,440
Speaker 1: miss the sort of um uh, well, I don't miss

562
00:33:01,440 --> 00:33:06,960
Speaker 1: the disempowerment that's in the entertainment industry. I don't miss

563
00:33:07,920 --> 00:33:14,200
Speaker 1: being part of something that I think and it wasn't

564
00:33:14,240 --> 00:33:16,280
Speaker 1: just nine o two and I was pretty much everything

565
00:33:16,320 --> 00:33:22,200
Speaker 1: I did. Where where um unhealthy images of beauty and

566
00:33:22,360 --> 00:33:26,880
Speaker 1: weight aren't out there. Um. And that was a lot

567
00:33:26,920 --> 00:33:31,240
Speaker 1: of what was crystallizing in me as I was deciding,

568
00:33:31,400 --> 00:33:33,680
Speaker 1: not deciding, but like trying to figure out who else

569
00:33:33,720 --> 00:33:37,560
Speaker 1: am I supposed to be besides an actress. Um here's

570
00:33:37,600 --> 00:33:39,400
Speaker 1: the thing. People ask me this a lot. Do you

571
00:33:39,440 --> 00:33:44,160
Speaker 1: miss acting? So in my life as a priest, I

572
00:33:44,200 --> 00:33:48,440
Speaker 1: get to use all the same skills all the time,

573
00:33:48,760 --> 00:33:52,000
Speaker 1: only now I'm like the director, the writer, the lighting

574
00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:55,480
Speaker 1: DESI mean, I can I can shape what I do.

575
00:33:56,040 --> 00:33:59,520
Speaker 1: I'm in front of people all the time. During COVID

576
00:33:59,800 --> 00:34:03,080
Speaker 1: we to reinvent Church online, I was like, my god,

577
00:34:03,160 --> 00:34:04,920
Speaker 1: my earlier career came out like I knew how to

578
00:34:04,920 --> 00:34:06,400
Speaker 1: do the makeup, I knew how to do the lighting.

579
00:34:06,400 --> 00:34:08,040
Speaker 1: I was like, no, no, no no, you have to get that.

580
00:34:08,440 --> 00:34:12,080
Speaker 1: And everybody was like this is really helpful. Um. So

581
00:34:12,719 --> 00:34:18,440
Speaker 1: I honestly, I don't. I don't miss acting. I really

582
00:34:18,480 --> 00:34:22,120
Speaker 1: feel so fulfilled in what I'm doing and I feel

583
00:34:22,400 --> 00:34:27,239
Speaker 1: like it is to a higher purpose, So so I

584
00:34:27,400 --> 00:34:31,920
Speaker 1: don't really miss it now. Um. Periodically I have befriended

585
00:34:32,400 --> 00:34:35,680
Speaker 1: you know, directors or whatever, and and and sort of, um,

586
00:34:35,719 --> 00:34:37,840
Speaker 1: they would say, oh I've gotten you, like theater directors

587
00:34:37,840 --> 00:34:39,279
Speaker 1: here in d C. And they're like, oh, I've got

588
00:34:39,280 --> 00:34:41,040
Speaker 1: a perfect part for you, and I will say my

589
00:34:41,040 --> 00:34:43,880
Speaker 1: my eyes kind of like I think about, like, but

590
00:34:44,000 --> 00:34:45,680
Speaker 1: how would I do it? How would I work it out?

591
00:34:45,840 --> 00:34:49,800
Speaker 1: Because that would interfere with Easter, you know, so it

592
00:34:49,840 --> 00:34:53,480
Speaker 1: wouldn't it wouldn't work right now. Um, I love your

593
00:34:53,520 --> 00:34:57,040
Speaker 1: priorities though. I love the way you you made a

594
00:34:57,080 --> 00:35:00,520
Speaker 1: conscious effort and decision about your life and you wanted

595
00:35:00,560 --> 00:35:03,560
Speaker 1: to go and what you wanted to do. Well, honestly,

596
00:35:03,719 --> 00:35:05,799
Speaker 1: I feel like it shows me. You know, I'm the

597
00:35:05,880 --> 00:35:08,080
Speaker 1: daughter of an episcimal police, right, So I had to

598
00:35:08,080 --> 00:35:13,040
Speaker 1: push it way, way, way, way way away. And then, um,

599
00:35:13,080 --> 00:35:16,680
Speaker 1: as I was sort of going through this process of like, oh,

600
00:35:16,719 --> 00:35:19,680
Speaker 1: the parts are getting smaller and smaller in the acting world,

601
00:35:19,719 --> 00:35:22,800
Speaker 1: and that seems so weird as I'm becoming more powerful

602
00:35:22,800 --> 00:35:25,520
Speaker 1: and creative in my own personal life and what am

603
00:35:25,520 --> 00:35:28,080
Speaker 1: I supposed to be doing? And they kept getting these

604
00:35:28,160 --> 00:35:32,400
Speaker 1: little hints that it was to become a priest, and

605
00:35:32,400 --> 00:35:34,680
Speaker 1: I pushed it away for a long time because I

606
00:35:34,719 --> 00:35:36,600
Speaker 1: was like, no, no, no, no, that's not me. There's

607
00:35:36,640 --> 00:35:39,399
Speaker 1: no way that's happening. That's my dad and I really

608
00:35:39,440 --> 00:35:44,720
Speaker 1: credit yoga actually with softening my edges against institutional church

609
00:35:44,880 --> 00:35:50,480
Speaker 1: and helping me develop a very tangible spirituality. And then

610
00:35:50,640 --> 00:35:53,919
Speaker 1: I created community and it was like, oh, well, there's

611
00:35:53,920 --> 00:35:56,640
Speaker 1: like I was going back to the church. And so anyway,

612
00:35:56,719 --> 00:35:59,759
Speaker 1: that was sort of how it happened. So so it's

613
00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:02,160
Speaker 1: it's not like I made a super conscious decision, but

614
00:36:02,280 --> 00:36:08,040
Speaker 1: it was led by clear clarity around what was important

615
00:36:08,080 --> 00:36:10,560
Speaker 1: to me. You're right, it wasn't around priorities. It's just

616
00:36:10,600 --> 00:36:14,000
Speaker 1: so admirable. I mean, like a lot of us feel

617
00:36:14,040 --> 00:36:17,600
Speaker 1: those feelings and have those glimpses of clarity and think

618
00:36:18,200 --> 00:36:20,640
Speaker 1: maybe maybe that's what I should be doing. If it

619
00:36:20,719 --> 00:36:23,799
Speaker 1: keeps coming up for me, and then it's really really

620
00:36:23,800 --> 00:36:27,280
Speaker 1: hard to pull a trigger and you know do it. Yeah,

621
00:36:27,400 --> 00:36:30,440
Speaker 1: I get that. Um, I totally get that. And it

622
00:36:30,560 --> 00:36:33,319
Speaker 1: was very frightening actually for me. I mean, I look

623
00:36:33,360 --> 00:36:35,759
Speaker 1: at it, it's coming out like I literally had this

624
00:36:35,880 --> 00:36:38,279
Speaker 1: thing beside me that was who I was supposed to

625
00:36:38,320 --> 00:36:41,400
Speaker 1: be authentically, and I was afraid, afraid, afraid to do it.

626
00:36:41,480 --> 00:36:45,680
Speaker 1: In fact, it was seeing a marvelous play at the

627
00:36:47,080 --> 00:36:49,400
Speaker 1: what was the play at Westward Playhouse? I think it

628
00:36:49,480 --> 00:36:51,920
Speaker 1: was a beautiful play. It was called Looking for Normal

629
00:36:52,400 --> 00:36:56,200
Speaker 1: and it was about a trans man that comes out

630
00:36:56,280 --> 00:36:58,480
Speaker 1: as a woman to his wife and all the things

631
00:36:58,480 --> 00:37:01,120
Speaker 1: that after that, I was like, well, hell, I guess

632
00:37:01,160 --> 00:37:05,840
Speaker 1: I should if you could do that? All right, So

633
00:37:06,160 --> 00:37:09,200
Speaker 1: anyway it But the other thing is that I will

634
00:37:09,239 --> 00:37:15,120
Speaker 1: say that it feels so well, it feels so preordained,

635
00:37:15,280 --> 00:37:17,640
Speaker 1: like like this is what was waiting for me. And

636
00:37:17,640 --> 00:37:21,360
Speaker 1: then it doesn't mean that acting or teaching yoga was wrong.

637
00:37:21,520 --> 00:37:24,200
Speaker 1: All of it was a step. All of it was

638
00:37:24,320 --> 00:37:26,680
Speaker 1: part of the journey and leads me to where I

639
00:37:26,680 --> 00:37:31,799
Speaker 1: am now. And I had this ridiculous idea when I

640
00:37:31,840 --> 00:37:35,360
Speaker 1: first became a prey, say oh, I have to forget

641
00:37:35,440 --> 00:37:37,840
Speaker 1: being an actress or I have to forget being a

642
00:37:37,920 --> 00:37:41,000
Speaker 1: yoga teacher. Until then I started working again as an

643
00:37:41,000 --> 00:37:43,160
Speaker 1: actress after I had become a priest, and I teach

644
00:37:43,280 --> 00:37:46,000
Speaker 1: yoga to my congregation once a month. So it's my

645
00:37:46,120 --> 00:37:50,440
Speaker 1: God uses it all like it's it's all grist for

646
00:37:51,360 --> 00:37:57,680
Speaker 1: redemption and teaching. And you know, hope, actually I love that. Well,

647
00:37:58,080 --> 00:38:01,439
Speaker 1: you you did have some pretty conic wardrobe on our show.

648
00:38:01,680 --> 00:38:04,960
Speaker 1: We are always talking about the way you look on

649
00:38:05,000 --> 00:38:07,960
Speaker 1: the show. Well, and do you know that, Like all

650
00:38:07,960 --> 00:38:10,040
Speaker 1: my gay friends were telling me that there's there's a

651
00:38:10,040 --> 00:38:13,080
Speaker 1: perfect mom version on RuPaul, like there's a whole drag

652
00:38:13,200 --> 00:38:16,799
Speaker 1: race thing about some of about me being drunk or

653
00:38:16,840 --> 00:38:20,560
Speaker 1: something you're falling off, and oh there has to be

654
00:38:20,719 --> 00:38:23,480
Speaker 1: I want to see that. That would be amazing, exactly,

655
00:38:23,520 --> 00:38:27,440
Speaker 1: it would be hilarious. Well that's rocking this swede bikini,

656
00:38:27,480 --> 00:38:29,640
Speaker 1: I will say, is I'm still pretty proud of that.

657
00:38:29,760 --> 00:38:32,440
Speaker 1: I mean, girl, you should be proud of that. That was,

658
00:38:32,520 --> 00:38:35,719
Speaker 1: like I remember, because you were pretty stressed out about it,

659
00:38:35,760 --> 00:38:43,120
Speaker 1: I remember, yeah, And but also just it was very fun.

660
00:38:43,320 --> 00:38:45,799
Speaker 1: We had a variety of different designers, as you all know,

661
00:38:46,000 --> 00:38:49,600
Speaker 1: and each one sort of put their stamp on Jackie's

662
00:38:49,640 --> 00:38:53,680
Speaker 1: wacky clothing and anyway, you know, the thing I remember

663
00:38:53,680 --> 00:38:56,960
Speaker 1: we used to talk about this a lot is um

664
00:38:57,080 --> 00:39:00,880
Speaker 1: because I think you and I are are are closer

665
00:39:01,000 --> 00:39:04,359
Speaker 1: in age than would actually allow me to be your mother.

666
00:39:04,600 --> 00:39:09,560
Speaker 1: Not impossible, but probably not happened. And but people they

667
00:39:09,640 --> 00:39:12,719
Speaker 1: put me in these you know, Chanelle's suits and the

668
00:39:12,840 --> 00:39:16,440
Speaker 1: bitch hair and the thing, and they're like when they

669
00:39:16,560 --> 00:39:18,960
Speaker 1: meet me without makeup and every people like, how do

670
00:39:18,960 --> 00:39:22,320
Speaker 1: you look so much? Younger than on and I was like, well,

671
00:39:22,360 --> 00:39:25,560
Speaker 1: that that's why they call it acting, and um, but

672
00:39:25,680 --> 00:39:27,400
Speaker 1: a lot of it was the look. I think it

673
00:39:27,440 --> 00:39:30,759
Speaker 1: really was the look. And uh, did you get to

674
00:39:30,840 --> 00:39:35,239
Speaker 1: keep any ab outfits? You know what? I don't remember this.

675
00:39:37,000 --> 00:39:41,000
Speaker 1: I was there the day we wrapped, and there were

676
00:39:41,360 --> 00:39:45,279
Speaker 1: racks of clothing, and honestly, Jenny, you were so adorable

677
00:39:45,440 --> 00:39:47,959
Speaker 1: you walked through them with me. I'm sure you don't

678
00:39:47,960 --> 00:39:50,839
Speaker 1: remember this, and you started pulling out some of your

679
00:39:50,880 --> 00:39:53,480
Speaker 1: clothes and you were like, you should have this. And

680
00:39:53,719 --> 00:39:59,600
Speaker 1: I for years wore an absolutely gorgeous black suit that

681
00:39:59,719 --> 00:40:04,120
Speaker 1: you had worn in some episode, and I'm I swear

682
00:40:04,280 --> 00:40:06,560
Speaker 1: I wore it. It was like the thing to put

683
00:40:06,600 --> 00:40:09,560
Speaker 1: on if I had to go for my interviews to

684
00:40:09,600 --> 00:40:11,640
Speaker 1: become a priest or this or that. It was sort

685
00:40:11,680 --> 00:40:15,400
Speaker 1: of hilarious. So that was fun. I shared a closet

686
00:40:15,400 --> 00:40:21,360
Speaker 1: in real life, I had. I had, yes, a few things,

687
00:40:21,400 --> 00:40:24,680
Speaker 1: a few pieces that were really great. I don't remember

688
00:40:24,760 --> 00:40:28,640
Speaker 1: us getting to keep it from racks the day we wrapped. Well,

689
00:40:28,960 --> 00:40:30,879
Speaker 1: I don't know. All I know is that there were

690
00:40:31,000 --> 00:40:32,960
Speaker 1: some out there and I happened to be there with

691
00:40:33,080 --> 00:40:35,759
Speaker 1: Jenny and she was pulling stuff out for me, but

692
00:40:37,120 --> 00:40:39,319
Speaker 1: I took it and stuffed in your card and said

693
00:40:39,360 --> 00:40:45,200
Speaker 1: go go run. Oh my gosh. If I had to

694
00:40:45,320 --> 00:40:47,920
Speaker 1: do over, I would have asked to keep some iconic

695
00:40:47,960 --> 00:40:53,520
Speaker 1: pieces like you know something. Yeah. Absolutely, well you you

696
00:40:53,600 --> 00:40:56,279
Speaker 1: always had great style, you were a great actress. You're

697
00:40:56,280 --> 00:40:59,959
Speaker 1: just a great human being. We're so happy to see

698
00:41:00,080 --> 00:41:05,440
Speaker 1: you happy, and thank you. You got to me a grandma.

699
00:41:05,760 --> 00:41:08,520
Speaker 1: I thank you. Well. So what's so funny is you

700
00:41:08,520 --> 00:41:12,040
Speaker 1: guys were around when with the birth of my daughter, Wesley,

701
00:41:12,120 --> 00:41:14,040
Speaker 1: and what I remember is bringing her into the makeup

702
00:41:14,040 --> 00:41:16,560
Speaker 1: trailer and everybody wanting to hold her, and you guys

703
00:41:16,640 --> 00:41:18,719
Speaker 1: are all so young, and you're like, I want one,

704
00:41:18,840 --> 00:41:22,600
Speaker 1: and I was like, oh, please take your time. They're

705
00:41:22,960 --> 00:41:25,840
Speaker 1: they're a challenge there as we all know, they're wonderful

706
00:41:26,040 --> 00:41:30,279
Speaker 1: and they're crazy, especially by Wesley would not she she

707
00:41:30,320 --> 00:41:32,440
Speaker 1: would not take a bottle. So I had to bring

708
00:41:32,440 --> 00:41:35,319
Speaker 1: her with me everywhere, which meant I had to bring

709
00:41:35,320 --> 00:41:36,680
Speaker 1: my four year old, which meant I had to bring

710
00:41:36,719 --> 00:41:38,759
Speaker 1: my husband to watch the four enemy. It was like

711
00:41:39,160 --> 00:41:41,360
Speaker 1: for eight months, she went straight from the mob to

712
00:41:41,400 --> 00:41:44,000
Speaker 1: the sippy cup. You know, there was like no in

713
00:41:44,080 --> 00:41:48,839
Speaker 1: between with her. But she's actually drinks very well now,

714
00:41:50,920 --> 00:41:55,319
Speaker 1: thank good, now that she's twenty nine. So where does

715
00:41:55,360 --> 00:41:58,759
Speaker 1: the time go? Where does it go? Anne? No? No, no, no,

716
00:41:59,040 --> 00:42:04,200
Speaker 1: Do I get to ask you guys questions? Oh? Yeah, yeah,

717
00:42:04,280 --> 00:42:08,600
Speaker 1: Well how are you are you doing? Okay, that's a

718
00:42:08,600 --> 00:42:13,280
Speaker 1: loaded question, and but you could answer a little bit. Well,

719
00:42:13,320 --> 00:42:16,240
Speaker 1: we're both I'll see for myself. I'm doing really well.

720
00:42:16,480 --> 00:42:22,600
Speaker 1: I'm married again and it's going good, so good. Yes, yes,

721
00:42:22,760 --> 00:42:26,080
Speaker 1: that's blessings. That's great. And between the two of us,

722
00:42:26,239 --> 00:42:33,520
Speaker 1: we have eight kiddos, beautiful babes. That's wonderful. Ah, that's

723
00:42:33,520 --> 00:42:36,040
Speaker 1: so great. Yeah, I remember you were there when I

724
00:42:36,080 --> 00:42:40,160
Speaker 1: had a baby on the show. Obviously I do how

725
00:42:40,320 --> 00:42:46,200
Speaker 1: challenging that was on many levels. Yeah yeah, but you,

726
00:42:46,360 --> 00:42:51,279
Speaker 1: but you, I'm sure you've raised them beautifully because you

727
00:42:51,680 --> 00:42:58,239
Speaker 1: both actually have emerged with your values intact, and your

728
00:42:58,400 --> 00:43:02,719
Speaker 1: integrity is so clear that they pick up on that.

729
00:43:02,840 --> 00:43:07,880
Speaker 1: Your kids are picking up on that. So definitely starts

730
00:43:07,920 --> 00:43:12,400
Speaker 1: from the mama. It does, it does, And also how

731
00:43:12,520 --> 00:43:16,319
Speaker 1: you deal with adversity because life is hard, and they

732
00:43:16,400 --> 00:43:21,440
Speaker 1: watch you figure stuff out and find balance again, because

733
00:43:21,440 --> 00:43:24,640
Speaker 1: we all got not off center, and that is such

734
00:43:24,680 --> 00:43:27,560
Speaker 1: a gift that you give them, you know. Yeah, just

735
00:43:27,640 --> 00:43:30,719
Speaker 1: when you think that that they don't know what you're

736
00:43:30,719 --> 00:43:33,040
Speaker 1: going through or they don't, they're not. They don't get it.

737
00:43:33,920 --> 00:43:36,160
Speaker 1: As they grow up and then they become older, you

738
00:43:36,320 --> 00:43:40,360
Speaker 1: see how that is sort of like ingrained in their fabric,

739
00:43:40,480 --> 00:43:45,160
Speaker 1: you know, they see absolutely. When I when I, um,

740
00:43:45,200 --> 00:43:47,960
Speaker 1: you know, do counseling with couples before they get married.

741
00:43:48,040 --> 00:43:51,600
Speaker 1: I always say, it doesn't matter what school they go to,

742
00:43:51,760 --> 00:43:54,520
Speaker 1: it doesn't matter what clothes they were what The best

743
00:43:54,600 --> 00:43:57,080
Speaker 1: gift you can give them is a healthy relationship with

744
00:43:57,120 --> 00:44:02,279
Speaker 1: your partner and barring that, figure out who you want

745
00:44:02,320 --> 00:44:07,440
Speaker 1: to be around, change around, transition around, you know, hard stuff,

746
00:44:07,520 --> 00:44:11,560
Speaker 1: and that's what they get, and that's you know, and

747
00:44:11,640 --> 00:44:16,800
Speaker 1: are you available for a one on one sometimes? Absolutely?

748
00:44:16,920 --> 00:44:20,719
Speaker 1: I do pastoral counseling time, do skype calls with their

749
00:44:20,760 --> 00:44:26,440
Speaker 1: weekly I like this idea skype zoom I mean zoom,

750
00:44:26,520 --> 00:44:30,920
Speaker 1: yeah yeah, yeah, oh excellent. So so you guys are

751
00:44:30,960 --> 00:44:34,040
Speaker 1: doing this podcast and for a while there it seemed

752
00:44:34,040 --> 00:44:37,480
Speaker 1: to me that there was something else that was happening

753
00:44:37,560 --> 00:44:39,160
Speaker 1: that you oh, there was going to be like a

754
00:44:39,280 --> 00:44:42,560
Speaker 1: nine o two and oh um reality sort of show

755
00:44:42,680 --> 00:44:44,759
Speaker 1: that then didn't happen or did it happen? I don't

756
00:44:44,760 --> 00:44:46,960
Speaker 1: even know. I'm sorry that I don't really follow these things.

757
00:44:47,200 --> 00:44:50,840
Speaker 1: I think you're referring to China to Yeah, that happened.

758
00:44:50,880 --> 00:44:54,239
Speaker 1: We did Um a limited series for Fox with the

759
00:44:54,280 --> 00:44:58,680
Speaker 1: whole original with the cast minus Luke right minus. It

760
00:44:58,760 --> 00:45:03,520
Speaker 1: was just after it looks passing and so but it

761
00:45:03,640 --> 00:45:07,200
Speaker 1: was really great to be together. It was scripted and

762
00:45:07,440 --> 00:45:11,640
Speaker 1: we played versions of ourselves, so what's some sort of interesting.

763
00:45:11,760 --> 00:45:14,799
Speaker 1: But some people loved it. Some people were bummed that

764
00:45:14,840 --> 00:45:18,160
Speaker 1: it wasn't a straight reboot, but everyone, you know what,

765
00:45:18,280 --> 00:45:20,560
Speaker 1: You're never going to please everybody, so I hope it

766
00:45:20,600 --> 00:45:22,960
Speaker 1: was fun for you guys. That was great. It was.

767
00:45:23,280 --> 00:45:27,280
Speaker 1: It was cathartic good. It was. Yeah, it was really

768
00:45:27,600 --> 00:45:31,360
Speaker 1: good to come back. And we always talked about we

769
00:45:31,400 --> 00:45:33,560
Speaker 1: had this time period where there was like a little

770
00:45:33,560 --> 00:45:35,799
Speaker 1: bit of regression when we first got on set. We

771
00:45:35,840 --> 00:45:39,000
Speaker 1: went back to like our sixteen seventeen year old selves, right,

772
00:45:39,560 --> 00:45:41,560
Speaker 1: and it just happened and then all of a sudden

773
00:45:41,600 --> 00:45:44,120
Speaker 1: then we're like, no, but we're the people we've evolved

774
00:45:44,160 --> 00:45:47,080
Speaker 1: into now, when these are our forms and how we

775
00:45:47,160 --> 00:45:49,880
Speaker 1: handle things. It was a really good experience personally, I

776
00:45:49,920 --> 00:45:53,760
Speaker 1: think for for all of us in a healing way. Yeah.

777
00:45:54,200 --> 00:45:57,400
Speaker 1: I imagined it was very powerful to be together around

778
00:45:57,440 --> 00:46:01,560
Speaker 1: Luke's death because you know, death is so well, it

779
00:46:01,640 --> 00:46:06,120
Speaker 1: rattles us because it's so final, it's so inevitable. It's

780
00:46:06,280 --> 00:46:08,080
Speaker 1: you know, you're grieving the loss of this person, but

781
00:46:08,120 --> 00:46:11,319
Speaker 1: it's also pulling up whatever other loss, and you know

782
00:46:11,400 --> 00:46:14,000
Speaker 1: we can't help but think about our own mortality. So

783
00:46:14,040 --> 00:46:16,080
Speaker 1: to do it together, I think that must have been

784
00:46:16,120 --> 00:46:21,920
Speaker 1: beautiful and kind of wild timing. It was predetermined. It

785
00:46:22,040 --> 00:46:29,440
Speaker 1: was definitely planned. Yeah, right, right right, since we have

786
00:46:29,480 --> 00:46:31,480
Speaker 1: a we have a breaking game that we always play

787
00:46:31,520 --> 00:46:34,680
Speaker 1: with our guests, and that's where I come in, and

788
00:46:34,680 --> 00:46:37,799
Speaker 1: it's basically like we're running out of time, so we

789
00:46:37,880 --> 00:46:42,400
Speaker 1: need to wrap it up. You're very inspiring, empowering conversation

790
00:46:42,520 --> 00:46:44,879
Speaker 1: with this, and it's so beautiful, and then we're like, hey,

791
00:46:44,880 --> 00:46:47,960
Speaker 1: can we ask you these fun, little rapid fire questions whatever.

792
00:46:48,520 --> 00:46:50,360
Speaker 1: I could listen to you talk for hours. Do you

793
00:46:50,400 --> 00:46:52,759
Speaker 1: give Did you give them this much advice when you

794
00:46:52,800 --> 00:46:56,960
Speaker 1: were on set? I hope not. That's so annoying. You

795
00:46:57,000 --> 00:47:01,200
Speaker 1: are always such a positive influence in my personal life,

796
00:47:01,239 --> 00:47:07,040
Speaker 1: and I think seeing you be so grounded and and

797
00:47:07,239 --> 00:47:10,600
Speaker 1: stable and comfortable in your own skin and comfortable with

798
00:47:10,640 --> 00:47:14,200
Speaker 1: who you were really like sort of led me in

799
00:47:14,239 --> 00:47:17,400
Speaker 1: that direction and helped me to find that balance, you know,

800
00:47:17,800 --> 00:47:19,880
Speaker 1: or or just at least strive for it. And I

801
00:47:20,120 --> 00:47:24,000
Speaker 1: always appreciate it and just I always I'm so happy

802
00:47:24,120 --> 00:47:27,440
Speaker 1: to say that you played my mom for so long. Yeah,

803
00:47:27,440 --> 00:47:30,400
Speaker 1: it's a it's an honor and a lovely thing. And

804
00:47:30,440 --> 00:47:33,279
Speaker 1: the fact that we got to do it over am

805
00:47:33,280 --> 00:47:36,680
Speaker 1: I right that the second iteration. By the time it

806
00:47:36,800 --> 00:47:39,560
Speaker 1: was that like twenty years later, it was like a

807
00:47:39,600 --> 00:47:41,920
Speaker 1: long time later. I don't know whatever it was. It

808
00:47:41,960 --> 00:47:44,759
Speaker 1: was a long time we knew each other as mother,

809
00:47:44,840 --> 00:47:51,040
Speaker 1: and so it's a whole generation of stuff. Anyway, I

810
00:47:50,640 --> 00:47:55,719
Speaker 1: I am glad that I was a positive influence. Donson. Well,

811
00:47:55,760 --> 00:47:58,480
Speaker 1: you always worked closer with Jen. I got to obviously

812
00:47:58,520 --> 00:48:00,719
Speaker 1: be around you, and you're always so to me, and

813
00:48:00,719 --> 00:48:03,400
Speaker 1: I always love seeing your smile. It made my heart happy.

814
00:48:03,800 --> 00:48:05,800
Speaker 1: And I remember when you told me about yoga, and

815
00:48:05,840 --> 00:48:08,440
Speaker 1: I remember being, you know, I was young, and I

816
00:48:08,520 --> 00:48:11,360
Speaker 1: was like, yoga, I don't know about yoga, and You're like,

817
00:48:11,360 --> 00:48:14,200
Speaker 1: you should come to a class, and I'm bummed that

818
00:48:14,280 --> 00:48:18,919
Speaker 1: I never did that. You can still do it all

819
00:48:18,920 --> 00:48:21,280
Speaker 1: the time. I tell myself, I've got to get to yoga,

820
00:48:21,320 --> 00:48:23,080
Speaker 1: I think, and meditating. I think it would be good

821
00:48:23,120 --> 00:48:25,799
Speaker 1: for me because I have a lot going on with

822
00:48:25,960 --> 00:48:29,080
Speaker 1: five kids and I need that me time. Um, and

823
00:48:29,120 --> 00:48:35,040
Speaker 1: I always remember us talking and just you yeah, well,

824
00:48:35,080 --> 00:48:38,799
Speaker 1: I'm glad that that's in there. Um, it's never too late.

825
00:48:38,920 --> 00:48:41,480
Speaker 1: You're right, You're right, it's never too late, and it

826
00:48:41,560 --> 00:48:46,759
Speaker 1: will serve you no matter what you're doing. Like it's so,

827
00:48:47,160 --> 00:48:51,160
Speaker 1: I mean, it's totally systilized my life on many levels.

828
00:48:51,200 --> 00:48:53,799
Speaker 1: But like I still do it. I still do my

829
00:48:53,840 --> 00:48:56,920
Speaker 1: own practice an hour and a half three times a

830
00:48:56,920 --> 00:48:58,960
Speaker 1: week or else I'm a crazy person. Like you know,

831
00:48:59,040 --> 00:49:01,880
Speaker 1: it's like it's like losting your teeth, Like I can't.

832
00:49:01,920 --> 00:49:04,560
Speaker 1: I can't not do it now because and the same

833
00:49:04,560 --> 00:49:08,480
Speaker 1: thing with meditation, like that's just given. Of course, my

834
00:49:08,560 --> 00:49:11,399
Speaker 1: husband likes to say, you know, if this is you

835
00:49:11,600 --> 00:49:14,080
Speaker 1: with you know, forty years of yoga meditation, I'd hate

836
00:49:14,080 --> 00:49:18,480
Speaker 1: to see you with it. Of course, he has a

837
00:49:18,480 --> 00:49:21,279
Speaker 1: different he has a different perspective. But but I can't

838
00:49:21,280 --> 00:49:26,120
Speaker 1: say enough about it, honestly, especially as we age because

839
00:49:26,520 --> 00:49:31,520
Speaker 1: our bodies are changing there giving way to gravity, they're

840
00:49:31,560 --> 00:49:36,560
Speaker 1: they're giving up and um, yoga helps you be where

841
00:49:36,600 --> 00:49:40,480
Speaker 1: you are and then you can go from there. But

842
00:49:40,520 --> 00:49:42,400
Speaker 1: if we're trying to if we're trying to be someplace

843
00:49:42,440 --> 00:49:45,200
Speaker 1: we're not, it's just it doesn't help. So anyway, I

844
00:49:45,239 --> 00:49:47,640
Speaker 1: feel scared. I feel like everyone knows yoga, and I

845
00:49:47,680 --> 00:49:49,400
Speaker 1: feel like I'd go into a class and they'd be like,

846
00:49:49,520 --> 00:49:51,319
Speaker 1: how do you not know that pose? How do you

847
00:49:51,360 --> 00:49:54,040
Speaker 1: not you know what it's? Well, if you take my class,

848
00:49:54,200 --> 00:49:57,640
Speaker 1: it would That's enough. It's about at all. It's about

849
00:49:58,200 --> 00:50:01,560
Speaker 1: listening to your body and using the tools as like

850
00:50:01,920 --> 00:50:05,440
Speaker 1: the post is, as tools like this that you can

851
00:50:06,000 --> 00:50:09,120
Speaker 1: um learn, listen and learn like your body is trying

852
00:50:09,120 --> 00:50:12,359
Speaker 1: to communicate with you all the time, and it's when

853
00:50:12,400 --> 00:50:15,040
Speaker 1: we don't listen that we get sick or we have

854
00:50:15,120 --> 00:50:19,200
Speaker 1: an injury or something. Anyway, so I if you were

855
00:50:19,239 --> 00:50:23,120
Speaker 1: to find the right teacher, you would not be at

856
00:50:23,160 --> 00:50:26,000
Speaker 1: all concerned about what you look like or what the

857
00:50:26,040 --> 00:50:29,719
Speaker 1: post is. They would help you experience it from the inside,

858
00:50:29,719 --> 00:50:33,239
Speaker 1: which is really it's about. I know it's coming from

859
00:50:33,280 --> 00:50:34,920
Speaker 1: I went to one year class of my life and

860
00:50:34,920 --> 00:50:36,840
Speaker 1: it came from experience that the teacher kept calling me

861
00:50:36,880 --> 00:50:40,239
Speaker 1: out and I was so mortified. Honestly, now I went back.

862
00:50:40,480 --> 00:50:43,000
Speaker 1: It makes me mad that that was your experience, because

863
00:50:43,040 --> 00:50:46,120
Speaker 1: of course it's like somebody you know singing and they

864
00:50:46,160 --> 00:50:48,319
Speaker 1: saying you can't sing, and then that person walks around

865
00:50:48,360 --> 00:50:50,239
Speaker 1: the rest of their life thinking that they can't sing,

866
00:50:50,239 --> 00:50:52,840
Speaker 1: and it's not accurate. It's not everybody can sing. You

867
00:50:52,920 --> 00:50:56,719
Speaker 1: just have to try YouTube. You know that. I'm gonna

868
00:50:56,760 --> 00:51:00,680
Speaker 1: try it now. Thank you for today. Good. Alright, So

869
00:51:00,719 --> 00:51:02,719
Speaker 1: we have a few rapid questions that we always ask

870
00:51:02,760 --> 00:51:06,520
Speaker 1: our guests. UM favorite character on nine o two and

871
00:51:06,600 --> 00:51:17,399
Speaker 1: no character? Oh? Absolutely, Kelly Taylor, Thanks mom? What about

872
00:51:17,600 --> 00:51:23,080
Speaker 1: favorite cast member? This is a little tougher, it's okay, well,

873
00:51:23,360 --> 00:51:25,959
Speaker 1: I mean it's it's boring and predictable, but it would

874
00:51:25,960 --> 00:51:29,240
Speaker 1: have to be Jenny Garth because we worked so closely together. Okay,

875
00:51:29,320 --> 00:51:33,400
Speaker 1: And do you have a favorite nineties UM fashion items?

876
00:51:33,400 --> 00:51:35,440
Speaker 1: Specifically from Nino too? And I know you mentioned the

877
00:51:35,480 --> 00:51:43,480
Speaker 1: suede baden suit, the suede bikini practical It's no, no,

878
00:51:43,680 --> 00:51:46,680
Speaker 1: you can't. You only wear it lounge. You cannot possibly

879
00:51:46,719 --> 00:51:50,200
Speaker 1: swim in it. But you would get so like sweat

880
00:51:51,560 --> 00:51:55,640
Speaker 1: gross anyway, Um let's see. Well, there were some very

881
00:51:55,719 --> 00:52:01,480
Speaker 1: hilarious thanks. There was something oddest thing I think I

882
00:52:01,560 --> 00:52:04,600
Speaker 1: wore it at the fashion show that looks sort of

883
00:52:04,640 --> 00:52:08,680
Speaker 1: like a harlequin jacket, like it had like, I don't know,

884
00:52:08,960 --> 00:52:12,680
Speaker 1: purple and green diamonds on it or something and something

885
00:52:13,000 --> 00:52:17,360
Speaker 1: weird thing. And anyway, they're there. It's really all of

886
00:52:17,840 --> 00:52:25,399
Speaker 1: Jackie's wardrobe is just absurd and nineties amazing. Huge shoulder paths, yeah,

887
00:52:26,200 --> 00:52:33,440
Speaker 1: big earrings, shoulder path colored bright pink anyway. And final

888
00:52:33,520 --> 00:52:37,600
Speaker 1: one out of a character on anatoineo who would you kiss?

889
00:52:37,640 --> 00:52:39,480
Speaker 1: Who would you marry? And who would you kick? To

890
00:52:39,520 --> 00:52:43,759
Speaker 1: the curve? If you don't remember their character's names, so

891
00:52:43,840 --> 00:52:46,720
Speaker 1: we can help you. Yeah, not the Cassiac characters names.

892
00:52:47,040 --> 00:52:50,279
Speaker 1: Wait wait, so the first one was who would kiss?

893
00:52:50,360 --> 00:52:55,000
Speaker 1: Who would you kiss? Well, it's a little uh sick,

894
00:52:55,239 --> 00:52:59,279
Speaker 1: I suppose, but um I was. I always thought Luke

895
00:52:59,320 --> 00:53:03,640
Speaker 1: Perry was pretty pricking adorable and I could be his mother.

896
00:53:03,880 --> 00:53:06,719
Speaker 1: So um oh, can we ask you a question real quick?

897
00:53:06,719 --> 00:53:08,640
Speaker 1: And sorry we're jumping in the middle of the game.

898
00:53:09,360 --> 00:53:13,640
Speaker 1: So how is Luke with you on set? Because Carol

899
00:53:13,680 --> 00:53:16,440
Speaker 1: Potter remembers that he used to whisper sweet nothings in

900
00:53:16,480 --> 00:53:18,160
Speaker 1: her ear, and she was very it would make her

901
00:53:18,200 --> 00:53:22,840
Speaker 1: heart flutter. Yeah, he was lovely. Actually, I always felt

902
00:53:22,880 --> 00:53:27,960
Speaker 1: Luke was very genuine. Um. We had some really interesting conversations,

903
00:53:28,120 --> 00:53:32,840
Speaker 1: especially later in the show, about his life and what

904
00:53:32,960 --> 00:53:38,520
Speaker 1: it was like to live that and Um, I don't know.

905
00:53:38,600 --> 00:53:42,160
Speaker 1: I always really admired him. He was very a very

906
00:53:43,120 --> 00:53:47,080
Speaker 1: honest and kind of earnest person and pretty dreamy to

907
00:53:47,120 --> 00:53:50,759
Speaker 1: look at. Um. So I he didn't I don't do

908
00:53:50,800 --> 00:53:54,240
Speaker 1: not remember him whispering sweet nothings. I remember him treating

909
00:53:54,239 --> 00:53:57,400
Speaker 1: with Actually, all of the guys treated with me, with

910
00:53:57,520 --> 00:54:01,480
Speaker 1: me with enormous respect. I felt like I was very

911
00:54:01,680 --> 00:54:04,840
Speaker 1: I was treated very nicely on that show. And after

912
00:54:04,960 --> 00:54:08,320
Speaker 1: the baby, after I had Wesley, and literally they put

913
00:54:08,480 --> 00:54:11,319
Speaker 1: a crib in my dressing room and it was I mean,

914
00:54:11,360 --> 00:54:14,000
Speaker 1: it was like it was so such a lovely way

915
00:54:14,040 --> 00:54:16,120
Speaker 1: to have to work and have a baby. It was

916
00:54:16,360 --> 00:54:20,440
Speaker 1: it was really great. Um. Okay, So Mary, if if

917
00:54:20,480 --> 00:54:24,200
Speaker 1: I could kiss, who would I marry? Oh Lord Brandon,

918
00:54:24,480 --> 00:54:29,680
Speaker 1: David Steve, Wait, you're a serv you're assuming they're all

919
00:54:29,960 --> 00:54:41,680
Speaker 1: they're all men. I couldn't marry Kelly, who else Carol, No, okay, Cindy, Cindy,

920
00:54:41,840 --> 00:54:46,640
Speaker 1: Oh that character, yikers. Um, look at the reruns, she's

921
00:54:46,680 --> 00:54:49,440
Speaker 1: never out of the kitchen. You're just like, really right,

922
00:54:50,120 --> 00:54:54,120
Speaker 1: she's gardening? Yeah, right right, that's safe and well. Anyway,

923
00:54:54,160 --> 00:54:55,880
Speaker 1: I won't go on and on. I think I should

924
00:54:55,920 --> 00:55:01,080
Speaker 1: probably say mel only because I did marry and we

925
00:55:01,160 --> 00:55:03,800
Speaker 1: had a lot of fun around that. I was super

926
00:55:03,840 --> 00:55:07,400
Speaker 1: pregnant when we did it, and um, what I remember

927
00:55:07,480 --> 00:55:10,840
Speaker 1: about is that it was clearly a Jewish wedding, except

928
00:55:10,880 --> 00:55:12,919
Speaker 1: we never called it a Jewish wedding because we weren't

929
00:55:12,960 --> 00:55:16,239
Speaker 1: allowed to like have it actually be Jewish, and so

930
00:55:16,360 --> 00:55:20,120
Speaker 1: we called it amongst ourselves a Melish wedding. So we

931
00:55:20,200 --> 00:55:23,000
Speaker 1: have a milliged wedding, so that bizarre they couldn't call

932
00:55:23,040 --> 00:55:26,239
Speaker 1: it a Jewish wedding. I mean, very real talks all

933
00:55:26,280 --> 00:55:29,000
Speaker 1: the time. How actually she had to take her Jewish start,

934
00:55:30,880 --> 00:55:35,840
Speaker 1: but Donna, they specifically put across on me because somehow

935
00:55:35,880 --> 00:55:38,720
Speaker 1: that would play better in the heartland. I don't know. Anyway,

936
00:55:39,200 --> 00:55:42,560
Speaker 1: it's hard to believe that that was a thing. But anyway,

937
00:55:42,760 --> 00:55:44,799
Speaker 1: what's was the last question? The last one was a

938
00:55:44,840 --> 00:55:46,800
Speaker 1: tough one. That's the one that's the kick to the curb.

939
00:55:47,120 --> 00:55:49,120
Speaker 1: To the curb a character that I would kick to

940
00:55:49,160 --> 00:55:54,080
Speaker 1: the curb. Yes, well not because of the actress and

941
00:55:54,200 --> 00:55:57,440
Speaker 1: not because but because her character was so limiting. I

942
00:55:57,440 --> 00:55:59,959
Speaker 1: think we have to say Cindy's characters should be kicked

943
00:56:00,000 --> 00:56:03,440
Speaker 1: occur because I think it didn't do a lot for

944
00:56:04,040 --> 00:56:08,480
Speaker 1: I mean, she was lovely in terms of her being

945
00:56:08,520 --> 00:56:11,799
Speaker 1: there for the kids, but it was totally unrealistic and

946
00:56:11,840 --> 00:56:14,439
Speaker 1: it was just limiting in terms for women. I think

947
00:56:14,480 --> 00:56:19,640
Speaker 1: to see that. So anyway, Yeah, An, you're the best.

948
00:56:19,760 --> 00:56:22,960
Speaker 1: And will you please give Jeff and Wesley and Spencer

949
00:56:23,000 --> 00:56:26,360
Speaker 1: and everybody else in your family big hug. Gonna cry,

950
00:56:26,440 --> 00:56:31,799
Speaker 1: They'll they'll be like, oh my god, Jenny remembers awesome, like, yes, yes,

951
00:56:31,840 --> 00:56:37,120
Speaker 1: I will everybody. Uh, greetings and um, I love you

952
00:56:37,200 --> 00:56:40,040
Speaker 1: both very much. That would be lovely to see you

953
00:56:40,080 --> 00:56:45,440
Speaker 1: after all these years. So care of yourselves because you're

954
00:56:45,520 --> 00:56:49,000
Speaker 1: really worth caring for. I love you so much, love

955
00:56:49,080 --> 00:56:53,480
Speaker 1: you bye bye. Oh I'm tearing up after aw you

956
00:56:53,480 --> 00:56:57,959
Speaker 1: guys crying. Yeah, I mean yeah, it's just so good

957
00:56:58,000 --> 00:57:01,320
Speaker 1: to see people and that you have like a true

958
00:57:01,360 --> 00:57:04,920
Speaker 1: connection with and then you know you're not I wasn't

959
00:57:04,920 --> 00:57:07,480
Speaker 1: really close friends with her. I mean I did. I

960
00:57:07,640 --> 00:57:09,399
Speaker 1: went to her yoga class. I did whatever she told

961
00:57:09,400 --> 00:57:11,080
Speaker 1: me to do, because I really did look up to

962
00:57:11,120 --> 00:57:14,080
Speaker 1: her as a human being, and um I learned a

963
00:57:14,120 --> 00:57:16,960
Speaker 1: lot from her. And to just see her again after

964
00:57:16,960 --> 00:57:21,160
Speaker 1: all these years, it's emotional brings you back. Don't you

965
00:57:21,160 --> 00:57:23,960
Speaker 1: wish you could hug her in person right now? I do.

966
00:57:24,720 --> 00:57:29,800
Speaker 1: She looks exactly the same, I know. I love it

967
00:57:30,640 --> 00:57:33,400
Speaker 1: like seeing her with us now. You really don't think

968
00:57:33,440 --> 00:57:38,640
Speaker 1: she could have played a mother to any anyone our age, Like,

969
00:57:38,720 --> 00:57:41,080
Speaker 1: it's crazy. I always love that that she was like

970
00:57:41,240 --> 00:57:47,760
Speaker 1: so foxy and she got m Well, let's take a break,

971
00:57:48,040 --> 00:57:51,600
Speaker 1: get you some tissue, and we'll come back with fashion

972
00:57:52,240 --> 00:58:06,680
Speaker 1: favorite lines. We'll cover it off. Okay, that was a

973
00:58:06,720 --> 00:58:11,760
Speaker 1: great interview. I love seeing mommy again. Should we talk

974
00:58:11,800 --> 00:58:14,480
Speaker 1: about fashion and fashion from this episode? This is what

975
00:58:14,640 --> 00:58:17,680
Speaker 1: for me, wasn't the biggest like fashion studded episode. I

976
00:58:17,720 --> 00:58:22,640
Speaker 1: really honestly didn't have any standout moments anyway. It was

977
00:58:22,680 --> 00:58:25,400
Speaker 1: just like Gene Gene and more Gene Denimo body suits,

978
00:58:25,640 --> 00:58:30,400
Speaker 1: bodysuits in the jeans. Yeah, I guess I was more

979
00:58:30,440 --> 00:58:33,720
Speaker 1: focused on the storyline and the emotional content than I

980
00:58:33,760 --> 00:58:37,720
Speaker 1: was about what anyone was wearing, So which is good.

981
00:58:37,760 --> 00:58:40,960
Speaker 1: That's a good thing. Yeah, a good thing. I know.

982
00:58:41,000 --> 00:58:44,120
Speaker 1: We talked about it a few times. But Donna's hairstyle,

983
00:58:44,760 --> 00:58:48,000
Speaker 1: how did you get the side? Like, I don't know,

984
00:58:48,200 --> 00:58:51,160
Speaker 1: describe what was the side like thing? And then you're

985
00:58:51,240 --> 00:58:55,440
Speaker 1: then it was all one. I can't do it right now,

986
00:58:56,840 --> 00:59:00,720
Speaker 1: so I literally would hold the sides out. I would

987
00:59:00,720 --> 00:59:04,480
Speaker 1: hold the sides out, sporing it until it like was dried,

988
00:59:04,720 --> 00:59:07,200
Speaker 1: and then let it go, same with this side and

989
00:59:07,240 --> 00:59:13,520
Speaker 1: then right here, like it's so iconic. Nobody else did though.

990
00:59:13,560 --> 00:59:16,560
Speaker 1: It was just Donna. Isn't that weird? Like I don't

991
00:59:16,560 --> 00:59:18,240
Speaker 1: even know, Like they would give me a beautiful like

992
00:59:18,280 --> 00:59:21,160
Speaker 1: blowout because my hair is actually wavy, so a big blowout,

993
00:59:21,640 --> 00:59:23,880
Speaker 1: and then I would go they always knew. They would

994
00:59:23,880 --> 00:59:26,040
Speaker 1: just like hand me the hair spray, like so you

995
00:59:26,240 --> 00:59:30,200
Speaker 1: do it yourself the hair spray. Yeah, oh yeah, it

996
00:59:30,280 --> 00:59:31,720
Speaker 1: was like crazy. I think I had to wash my

997
00:59:31,760 --> 00:59:33,800
Speaker 1: hair every night because it was so sprayed so hard

998
00:59:33,960 --> 00:59:36,840
Speaker 1: that you like I couldn't move it. Did any of

999
00:59:36,880 --> 00:59:42,280
Speaker 1: you have a favorite line? I always remember, Um, no

1000
00:59:42,320 --> 00:59:45,640
Speaker 1: one gave a rat's ass about Scott until he died,

1001
00:59:46,840 --> 00:59:48,240
Speaker 1: but it always stuck out to me. It was like

1002
00:59:48,320 --> 00:59:50,480
Speaker 1: poignant and it was a great performance where always like

1003
00:59:50,600 --> 00:59:54,439
Speaker 1: rats ass, I don't know what's Yeah, where'd that come from?

1004
00:59:54,520 --> 00:59:59,280
Speaker 1: You don't give a rat's ass? Especially teens to teens

1005
00:59:59,280 --> 01:00:03,560
Speaker 1: say rats awesome sounds like an older term. I think

1006
01:00:03,440 --> 01:00:05,440
Speaker 1: I'm gonna try using that today. I don't give a

1007
01:00:05,520 --> 01:00:09,960
Speaker 1: rat's ass what we have for dinner, guys. One of

1008
01:00:10,000 --> 01:00:12,800
Speaker 1: my favorite lines was a pretty obvious one. It was

1009
01:00:12,880 --> 01:00:16,480
Speaker 1: when Um David was having his little blow up in

1010
01:00:16,520 --> 01:00:20,400
Speaker 1: the DJ booth, Um having a bottle breakdown, and he said, Uh,

1011
01:00:20,880 --> 01:00:23,160
Speaker 1: it doesn't matter what people say about them when they're gone.

1012
01:00:23,200 --> 01:00:26,439
Speaker 1: What matters is how you treat them while they're still here.

1013
01:00:27,920 --> 01:00:33,520
Speaker 1: What a really important statement, very true. That was a

1014
01:00:33,520 --> 01:00:36,480
Speaker 1: great line from that. Something I think people always remembered.

1015
01:00:37,960 --> 01:00:42,400
Speaker 1: Mine is also from David, and it was I promised

1016
01:00:42,440 --> 01:00:47,240
Speaker 1: his cousin I'd teach him how to freak. I almost

1017
01:00:47,240 --> 01:00:49,800
Speaker 1: picked that one too. It stood out to me just

1018
01:00:49,840 --> 01:00:52,960
Speaker 1: because I was like, what's freak? And then I realized, oh,

1019
01:00:53,000 --> 01:00:56,439
Speaker 1: that's like a was that a dance? Like like I'll

1020
01:00:56,480 --> 01:00:59,080
Speaker 1: handle that. It's just like a freak because when you're

1021
01:00:59,080 --> 01:01:03,840
Speaker 1: like free get freakings like um, I don't know, it's

1022
01:01:03,880 --> 01:01:09,320
Speaker 1: more with your hips. It's almost like motioning. I want

1023
01:01:09,360 --> 01:01:11,080
Speaker 1: you to do it, and when you stand up, stand

1024
01:01:11,160 --> 01:01:12,880
Speaker 1: up and do it for us. I don't have pants on.

1025
01:01:13,000 --> 01:01:18,000
Speaker 1: First of all, what oh I am nine months pregnant

1026
01:01:18,040 --> 01:01:21,680
Speaker 1: and pants whatsoever? You're just sitting there had sixty degrees

1027
01:01:21,720 --> 01:01:24,480
Speaker 1: and I'm like burning up. Still are you legit sitting

1028
01:01:24,480 --> 01:01:26,760
Speaker 1: there in a T shirt? In your underwear in l

1029
01:01:26,800 --> 01:01:30,200
Speaker 1: a Dodgers to shirt too. I would call them booty shorts.

1030
01:01:31,680 --> 01:01:34,600
Speaker 1: I'm crushing on you right now. I'm not gonna this

1031
01:01:34,680 --> 01:01:37,640
Speaker 1: has got a booty short look out the middle of

1032
01:01:37,760 --> 01:01:42,600
Speaker 1: summer and sonant I love that. Oh my god, it's

1033
01:01:42,640 --> 01:01:46,360
Speaker 1: so good. Okay, everybody get ready for the next episode.

1034
01:01:46,360 --> 01:01:51,880
Speaker 1: It's a doozy episode fifteen Euphoria. This is one of

1035
01:01:51,880 --> 01:01:55,880
Speaker 1: my all time favorite episodes to film. Ever so excited.

1036
01:01:56,400 --> 01:02:00,120
Speaker 1: Let's find out why next week. M