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Speaker 2: Welcome back to the Solid Rebel boys and girls. My

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Speaker 1: My man, the one and only Dan Ruberstein, Sir, how

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Speaker 2: Verbal colon cocktail hour. Yes, I like that. So here

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Speaker 2: a second performance of the Fantasy Things Draft a different show.

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Speaker 2: Maybe a little bit of overlap, but a different show

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Speaker 1: I don't think there's gonna be overlap. I mean, other

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Speaker 1: Is that overlap? Does it rhyme with Blean Blandblino? Are

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Speaker 1: we doing an all Dean Blandino Fantasy Things? Just tell

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Speaker 2: It's gonna be a lot of fun. Correct, We're excited.

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Speaker 1: Well, we have our master list of about fifty items

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Speaker 2: I don't know the thing that I we'll say about

433
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Speaker 2: the schedule, and then we should probably move on because again,

434
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Speaker 2: I can do this for a half hour, two back

435
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Speaker 2: to backs end of September and first week of October

436
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Speaker 2: at Nebraska home against Michigan State, then the last two

437
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Speaker 2: weeks of November home against Penn State, close out the

438
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Speaker 2: year on the road at Michigan.

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Speaker 1: That's what's going to define this season for the Buckeyes.

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Speaker 1: Mm hmm, yeah, no, totally is. And they lost a

441
00:22:22,920 --> 00:22:24,840
Speaker 1: bunch of receivers but have recruited well there as well.

442
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Speaker 1: kJ Hill's back, right, kJ Hills back, Yes, he'll be good.

443
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Speaker 1: So best case is what they run the table.

444
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Speaker 2: Best case they run the table. Yeah, they've got the talent.

445
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Speaker 2: They've got the talent to run the table here.

446
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Speaker 1: Worst case, I guess is justin fields is just a

447
00:22:37,920 --> 00:22:42,240
Speaker 1: guy and team stack the box and the offense is

448
00:22:42,520 --> 00:22:44,760
Speaker 1: fits and starts kind of thing, and the defense doesn't

449
00:22:44,800 --> 00:22:47,560
Speaker 1: really fix itself. And so what's that that worst case.

450
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Speaker 2: Well, the worst case might be three losses on the schedule. Okay,

451
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Speaker 2: I don't believe in that, but right there's not a

452
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Speaker 2: lot of depth to your earlier point about justin fields

453
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Speaker 2: behind him something where to go south in that regard

454
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Speaker 2: that could be a problem.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, let's move on. Let's move on, Dan, I

456
00:23:06,560 --> 00:23:10,040
Speaker 1: want to talk about Wisconsin. I'm always curious when you

457
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Speaker 1: do that, if you're going to say, let's move on, Dan,

458
00:23:12,359 --> 00:23:14,879
Speaker 1: I want to talk about suits. No, I want to

459
00:23:14,920 --> 00:23:18,920
Speaker 1: talk about customs. Okay, Wisconsin a little bit later, we'll

460
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Speaker 1: do that. Oh, a tease.

461
00:23:21,160 --> 00:23:26,760
Speaker 2: Who is playing quarterback for Wisconsin this year? And furthermore,

462
00:23:26,840 --> 00:23:29,919
Speaker 2: does it matter since they still have Jonathan Taylor tailback

463
00:23:30,280 --> 00:23:32,720
Speaker 2: who will clearly be the focal point of that offense?

464
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Speaker 1: Can I just say, oh, that's why I'm asking the question.

465
00:23:37,320 --> 00:23:43,040
Speaker 1: I don't know. Jack Cone appears to be ahead. And

466
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Speaker 1: by the way, this is not meant to be mean,

467
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Speaker 1: This is not meant to be accusatory. But try not

468
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Speaker 1: to name your kids something that ends with the letter

469
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Speaker 1: in which his last name is going to start. Because

470
00:23:56,880 --> 00:24:01,040
Speaker 1: Graham Hertz sounds like zach Ertz's little brother and it's

471
00:24:01,119 --> 00:24:03,760
Speaker 1: Graham Mertz and I hate that we have to do

472
00:24:03,800 --> 00:24:06,560
Speaker 1: that for the next however long he's playing college football.

473
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Speaker 1: Grammer Jack Grammarts, Country Grammarts. That's good. I hate myself.

474
00:24:12,800 --> 00:24:16,600
Speaker 1: I just burminized something. Jack Cone is probably gonna be

475
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Speaker 1: the guy. It is going to matter because Wisconsin goes

476
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Speaker 1: from good to potentially really good when they have an

477
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Speaker 1: efficient quarterback. And Jack Cone does not need to light

478
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Speaker 1: the world on fire. Jack Cone does not need to

479
00:24:26,720 --> 00:24:29,000
Speaker 1: be a crazy dual threat kind of guy, but he

480
00:24:29,040 --> 00:24:31,520
Speaker 1: needs to be a lot better than he was last season.

481
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Speaker 1: And Alex Hornybrook had a pretty horrible year. He threw

482
00:24:34,920 --> 00:24:37,800
Speaker 1: a ton of picks. Jack Cone comes in when hornybrooks

483
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Speaker 1: hurt and just not performing and is not that great.

484
00:24:41,000 --> 00:24:45,400
Speaker 1: He throws picks less often, which is not the greatest

485
00:24:45,480 --> 00:24:49,080
Speaker 1: compliment you can pay somebody. Wiscons has got a new

486
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Speaker 1: offensive line in front of him. The good news for

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Speaker 1: Cone if he is going to improve, he's a pretty

488
00:24:54,600 --> 00:24:58,080
Speaker 1: nice set And aside from Jonathan Taylor, Jonathan Taylor touchdowns,

489
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Speaker 1: so we call him right or tailback tailback tail touchdown

490
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Speaker 1: if you want no, I like tailback AJ Davis or

491
00:25:06,280 --> 00:25:09,840
Speaker 1: Danny Davis, AJ Taylor and possibly because he was just

492
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Speaker 1: acquitted and his status is still up in the air,

493
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Speaker 1: Quintes Cephis might be back for Wisconsin, so he could

494
00:25:16,280 --> 00:25:20,359
Speaker 1: have a nice array of players to be throwing to. Defensively,

495
00:25:20,640 --> 00:25:23,439
Speaker 1: they have to be healthier. They're still I mean, the

496
00:25:23,440 --> 00:25:26,880
Speaker 1: linebackers are pretty new. A lot of what Wisconsin succeeded

497
00:25:26,920 --> 00:25:29,639
Speaker 1: in doing was shutting teams down on defense and when

498
00:25:29,640 --> 00:25:32,720
Speaker 1: they had the ball, just pounding them and just wearing

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00:25:32,760 --> 00:25:36,520
Speaker 1: teams down. And so I look at this defense. They're

500
00:25:36,600 --> 00:25:39,520
Speaker 1: pretty green upfront. You know, there's a decent amount of

501
00:25:39,560 --> 00:25:41,840
Speaker 1: experience in the back. But it's going to have to

502
00:25:41,840 --> 00:25:45,040
Speaker 1: be a situation which somebody else's shouldering the load outside

503
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Speaker 1: of Jonathan Taylor tailback if they're going to get to

504
00:25:47,040 --> 00:25:52,280
Speaker 1: threatening double digit wins. So the best case scenario, after

505
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Speaker 1: last year, which you know, the offense was rough outside

506
00:25:55,280 --> 00:25:58,919
Speaker 1: of JTT, the defense was okay against the run, but

507
00:25:59,080 --> 00:26:03,040
Speaker 1: pretty bad against the pass, the best case scenario for

508
00:26:03,080 --> 00:26:06,879
Speaker 1: the Badgers, for Bucky b Edger, offensive line comes together,

509
00:26:07,200 --> 00:26:10,600
Speaker 1: offense bounces back, somebody who you know is a gravitational

510
00:26:10,640 --> 00:26:14,000
Speaker 1: player continues to be on the outside, and the defense improves.

511
00:26:15,200 --> 00:26:17,320
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say nine to three is probably their best

512
00:26:17,359 --> 00:26:18,760
Speaker 1: case right now, with a chance to get to ten

513
00:26:18,800 --> 00:26:21,359
Speaker 1: in the bowl game. Worst case is Jack Cone is

514
00:26:21,359 --> 00:26:24,040
Speaker 1: still below average and you know, some games the defense

515
00:26:24,040 --> 00:26:26,879
Speaker 1: shows up, some games doesn't and they go seven to five.

516
00:26:27,240 --> 00:26:29,159
Speaker 1: That's the worry for me that it's more of the

517
00:26:29,200 --> 00:26:34,400
Speaker 1: same if Mertz is not ready to be that full

518
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Speaker 1: time guy and Jack Cone is the guy at least

519
00:26:36,040 --> 00:26:38,800
Speaker 1: in the beginning, and then it's a will they won't they?

520
00:26:38,880 --> 00:26:42,000
Speaker 1: With Who are they starting come week six? I don't know.

521
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Speaker 1: The schedule is not bad. They have what Michigan in September,

522
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Speaker 1: they're on the road at Ohio State this year they

523
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Speaker 1: have a buye before iowather at Nebraska. They're at Minnesota,

524
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Speaker 1: which we'll get to I think is interesting. So it's fine,

525
00:26:57,160 --> 00:26:59,880
Speaker 1: how much but how much let down? Look ahead? Potential?

526
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Speaker 2: Is that October nineteenth game it's at Illinois. It's between

527
00:27:04,880 --> 00:27:10,200
Speaker 2: Michigan State at home and Camp Randall Stadium homecoming. And

528
00:27:10,520 --> 00:27:14,640
Speaker 2: the week after Illinois it's on the road in Ohio

529
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Speaker 2: Stadium against the Buck guys.

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Speaker 1: Is Trevor Lawrence and all of his receivers gonna say,

531
00:27:21,359 --> 00:27:24,040
Speaker 1: why don't we just go to Champagne and be legends.

532
00:27:24,440 --> 00:27:26,959
Speaker 1: If that's not happening, fair enough, I don't think Illinois

533
00:27:26,960 --> 00:27:28,800
Speaker 1: has a quarterback to really put the fear of life

534
00:27:28,840 --> 00:27:34,840
Speaker 1: into anybody. Fair enough, Okay, I'll do apologies to Brandon Peters.

535
00:27:35,359 --> 00:27:35,760
Speaker 1: Fair enough.

536
00:27:35,800 --> 00:27:36,800
Speaker 2: Where you gonna go next?

537
00:27:37,280 --> 00:27:39,600
Speaker 1: All right, let's stick with Brandon Peter's old team. Let's

538
00:27:39,640 --> 00:27:41,239
Speaker 1: just get it out of the way. Let's do it.

539
00:27:42,840 --> 00:27:45,360
Speaker 1: So a lot of what I'm seeing about I've seen

540
00:27:45,400 --> 00:27:48,320
Speaker 1: actually two things about Michigan this off season. One, Josh

541
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Speaker 1: Gaddis is coming in. We're gonna we're gonna modernize this. Modernize, yeah, modernize,

542
00:27:53,280 --> 00:27:55,159
Speaker 1: We're gonna spread them out. We're finally gonna get to

543
00:27:55,200 --> 00:27:58,360
Speaker 1: the twenty first century, twenty forty chess on this offense.

544
00:27:58,720 --> 00:28:02,919
Speaker 1: The other thing I've seen was describing Michigan's defense in

545
00:28:02,960 --> 00:28:06,000
Speaker 1: the way that people describe Clayton Kershaw, where they're just like,

546
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Speaker 1: if you take out this one start, if you take

547
00:28:08,920 --> 00:28:11,399
Speaker 1: out this one playoff game where you gave up forty

548
00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:15,959
Speaker 1: four earned runs against the Cardinals, he's pretty good. And

549
00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:18,800
Speaker 1: that I've seen that about Michigan's defense, and you take

550
00:28:18,840 --> 00:28:20,639
Speaker 1: out the Ohio State game, and what are we talk

551
00:28:20,720 --> 00:28:24,080
Speaker 1: We're talking about pretty successful guy in defense. So let's

552
00:28:24,080 --> 00:28:26,960
Speaker 1: stick with the modernizing. What does that actually look like? Is?

553
00:28:27,040 --> 00:28:29,960
Speaker 1: What is a modern Michigan offense run by Shape Patterson

554
00:28:30,080 --> 00:28:35,240
Speaker 1: with we'll edit in a running back get one and

555
00:28:35,480 --> 00:28:37,720
Speaker 1: you know, good but kind of beat up receivers in

556
00:28:37,800 --> 00:28:41,720
Speaker 1: a good offensive line. What does that quote unquote modern

557
00:28:42,200 --> 00:28:43,040
Speaker 1: offense look like?

558
00:28:43,160 --> 00:28:46,760
Speaker 2: Well, you know, Harbaugh kind of started modernizing it last

559
00:28:46,760 --> 00:28:49,600
Speaker 2: season when he brought Shape Patterson over, who was not

560
00:28:50,520 --> 00:28:52,880
Speaker 2: the kind of quarterback who would typically fit his system,

561
00:28:53,400 --> 00:28:55,320
Speaker 2: you know, and hire a new line coach.

562
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Speaker 1: I always screw up his name? Is it Edward Rinner?

563
00:28:58,160 --> 00:28:59,760
Speaker 1: Warren Warrener? With Warrener.

564
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Speaker 2: It's so easy, it's right in front of me. Yeah,

565
00:29:02,240 --> 00:29:04,120
Speaker 2: I know the guy. We've been talking about him for years.

566
00:29:04,160 --> 00:29:05,920
Speaker 2: I just can't say his name's He's.

567
00:29:05,760 --> 00:29:08,880
Speaker 1: Well known around the globe, well known around the globe.

568
00:29:09,400 --> 00:29:12,840
Speaker 2: He's got a wealth of knowledge about the running game,

569
00:29:13,040 --> 00:29:16,960
Speaker 2: about spread offense. Is really good coach. This was definitely

570
00:29:17,760 --> 00:29:19,880
Speaker 2: I think the start of now what we see going

571
00:29:19,880 --> 00:29:24,120
Speaker 2: on in twenty nineteen bringing over Josh gaddis. I think

572
00:29:24,120 --> 00:29:25,960
Speaker 2: what you're going to see if you talk about more

573
00:29:26,040 --> 00:29:29,640
Speaker 2: modernized I think you're going to see more tempo. We're

574
00:29:29,680 --> 00:29:31,960
Speaker 2: hardly ever going to see huddle and you're going to

575
00:29:32,040 --> 00:29:36,520
Speaker 2: see more RPOs. Gaddis is big on this, all right.

576
00:29:36,600 --> 00:29:38,560
Speaker 2: He's trying to I don't know if you saw this,

577
00:29:39,160 --> 00:29:43,640
Speaker 2: he's trying to invent his own hashtag, speed in Space. Okay,

578
00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:45,640
Speaker 2: he's been tweeting that out. That's going to be the

579
00:29:45,640 --> 00:29:49,040
Speaker 2: theme for this offense. And you know, hey, it's kind

580
00:29:49,080 --> 00:29:52,360
Speaker 2: of a gimmick thing, but speed in Space is definitely

581
00:29:52,400 --> 00:29:55,080
Speaker 2: not how you would define the old Jim Harbaugh system

582
00:29:55,160 --> 00:29:56,840
Speaker 2: where you line up under center and give it to

583
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Speaker 2: somebody who's big and the gun a lot last and

584
00:30:00,440 --> 00:30:03,120
Speaker 2: tight ends. But no, I'm saying last year was the

585
00:30:03,120 --> 00:30:05,680
Speaker 2: start of it. This year, I think we get to

586
00:30:05,720 --> 00:30:08,360
Speaker 2: the next level now with Josh Gaddis. I'm familiar with

587
00:30:08,400 --> 00:30:12,120
Speaker 2: Gaddis from his time at Penn State, and honestly, if

588
00:30:12,160 --> 00:30:14,880
Speaker 2: you're a Penn State fan, you miss Josh Gaddis because

589
00:30:14,880 --> 00:30:16,920
Speaker 2: the wide receiving core has not been the same since

590
00:30:16,960 --> 00:30:20,920
Speaker 2: he left. If you're a Michigan fan, you get excited

591
00:30:20,960 --> 00:30:23,280
Speaker 2: because maybe you see a flavor of what Joe Moorehead

592
00:30:23,280 --> 00:30:25,400
Speaker 2: did at Penn State. What he's done a little bit

593
00:30:25,400 --> 00:30:29,720
Speaker 2: at Mississippi State. Bruce Felman depicted this higher pretty well

594
00:30:29,760 --> 00:30:33,120
Speaker 2: in an article. He talked about Harball basically calling up

595
00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:36,920
Speaker 2: Josh Gaddis, giving him full control of the offense and

596
00:30:37,200 --> 00:30:40,120
Speaker 2: essentially the job within twenty minutes, like he knew this

597
00:30:40,280 --> 00:30:43,200
Speaker 2: was the guy he wanted to get. That's something if

598
00:30:43,240 --> 00:30:45,160
Speaker 2: I'm a Michigan fan that gets the juice is flowing,

599
00:30:45,760 --> 00:30:47,040
Speaker 2: you sort of know what you're going to get.

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Speaker 1: Though, I think, so, okay, why would it not. I

601
00:30:53,800 --> 00:30:57,800
Speaker 1: didn't think the Michigan offense was that bad last year Michigan.

602
00:30:58,040 --> 00:31:00,520
Speaker 1: I mean they were bad against Notre Dame, scored ten

603
00:31:00,560 --> 00:31:03,720
Speaker 1: offensive points, right, it was ten points and yes, nineteen

604
00:31:03,840 --> 00:31:08,520
Speaker 1: eight yard kickoff return touchdown. And then it wasn't the

605
00:31:08,560 --> 00:31:11,000
Speaker 1: offense that was. I mean, it wasn't great against Ohio State,

606
00:31:11,040 --> 00:31:13,920
Speaker 1: but that was a game at halftime and the defense

607
00:31:14,080 --> 00:31:17,479
Speaker 1: just could not keep up with Dwayne Haskins and all

608
00:31:17,480 --> 00:31:18,160
Speaker 1: those receivers.

609
00:31:18,160 --> 00:31:22,280
Speaker 2: For all there were there were two nineteen minute chunks

610
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Speaker 2: that defined Yes, this was what Nicole auerbacks is what

611
00:31:25,920 --> 00:31:28,640
Speaker 2: Nicole wrote, Yeah, the athletic for the athletic there were

612
00:31:28,640 --> 00:31:31,560
Speaker 2: two nineteen minute chunks. One in the beginning part of

613
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Speaker 2: the year against Notre Dame one at the end of

614
00:31:34,160 --> 00:31:38,440
Speaker 2: the year against Ohio State in which during which the

615
00:31:38,520 --> 00:31:42,480
Speaker 2: defense had these momentary lapses and that really did alter

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00:31:42,600 --> 00:31:45,160
Speaker 2: the course of the season. Otherwise, though, you could really

617
00:31:45,160 --> 00:31:47,120
Speaker 2: make the case that this might have been the best

618
00:31:47,120 --> 00:31:50,120
Speaker 2: defense in the country. So they had their moments, and

619
00:31:50,160 --> 00:31:52,520
Speaker 2: they need to cut back on those mistakes for sure

620
00:31:52,560 --> 00:31:56,400
Speaker 2: against better competition, but like it was still pretty damn

621
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Speaker 2: good last year.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it was a top probably twenty twenty five offense

623
00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:02,360
Speaker 1: in the country, and the defense was one of the

624
00:32:02,360 --> 00:32:05,040
Speaker 1: best ten or fifteen defenses in the country, if not higher.

625
00:32:05,720 --> 00:32:10,880
Speaker 1: So they were just they were they were losers in moments,

626
00:32:10,920 --> 00:32:12,920
Speaker 1: they were not you know, in need of an overhaul.

627
00:32:13,200 --> 00:32:15,280
Speaker 1: And so that it worries me that there's going to

628
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Speaker 1: be new verbiage, that there's going to be confusion at times.

629
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Speaker 1: I don't know. Maybe, well that's fair, right, that's fair.

630
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Speaker 1: I am I'm just curious. I'm curious that they're going

631
00:32:26,480 --> 00:32:29,280
Speaker 1: to overthink it sometimes. And you know, he hasn't been

632
00:32:29,320 --> 00:32:31,200
Speaker 1: an offensive coordinator. I saw that there was a feud

633
00:32:31,240 --> 00:32:34,760
Speaker 1: between he and Mike Locksley over Mike Locksley not giving

634
00:32:34,840 --> 00:32:37,719
Speaker 1: him credit and media. I don't know whatever it is.

635
00:32:38,200 --> 00:32:39,920
Speaker 1: I'm curious. I think it's a it's a high risk

636
00:32:39,960 --> 00:32:43,200
Speaker 1: maneuver that could pay huge dividends, but curious to see

637
00:32:43,200 --> 00:32:46,440
Speaker 1: if not, if it wasn't the most needed thing overhauling

638
00:32:46,440 --> 00:32:47,000
Speaker 1: this offense.

639
00:32:47,360 --> 00:32:50,000
Speaker 2: Some other quick factoids and then we'll move on. The

640
00:32:50,040 --> 00:32:54,120
Speaker 2: line should be should be a strength of this team

641
00:32:54,120 --> 00:32:57,040
Speaker 2: because they've got full definitely four guys back. It's going

642
00:32:57,120 --> 00:33:00,600
Speaker 2: to help Shape Patterson. Hopefully, it's gonna help the run attack.

643
00:33:01,120 --> 00:33:03,360
Speaker 2: As you said, they lost both both Karan Higgen and

644
00:33:03,440 --> 00:33:06,520
Speaker 2: Chris Evans. We can edit in a running back name here.

645
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Speaker 1: But I think it's it's going to be a true

646
00:33:07,880 --> 00:33:11,560
Speaker 1: freshman who I think is from southern California, Trebousche Adam.

647
00:33:11,800 --> 00:33:14,760
Speaker 2: Whoever gets the whoever gets the carries right the line

648
00:33:14,800 --> 00:33:17,880
Speaker 2: should benefit them. Of course, Shape Patterson's back pretty good

649
00:33:17,920 --> 00:33:20,560
Speaker 2: in his first year. There was room for improvement. I'm

650
00:33:20,600 --> 00:33:22,560
Speaker 2: curious to see now what he does with this system.

651
00:33:22,840 --> 00:33:25,360
Speaker 2: The big spot that I am watching now, especially given

652
00:33:25,400 --> 00:33:30,000
Speaker 2: the fact that we've got Josh Gattis coming up from Alabama. Yeah,

653
00:33:30,240 --> 00:33:33,080
Speaker 2: wide receiver, somebody's got to step up. I thought it

654
00:33:33,080 --> 00:33:36,960
Speaker 2: would be Donevan people's Jones. Yeah, but he didn't really

655
00:33:37,000 --> 00:33:40,400
Speaker 2: step up and be that alpha, so it needs.

656
00:33:40,240 --> 00:33:42,760
Speaker 1: To be good. He was good, Nico Collins.

657
00:33:42,880 --> 00:33:46,959
Speaker 2: He needs to be People's Jones or Nicocollins or Ronnie

658
00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:49,160
Speaker 2: Bell who's a burner, or even Tarik Black if he

659
00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:52,920
Speaker 2: can stay healthy. Somebody's got to step up, and I

660
00:33:52,920 --> 00:33:56,280
Speaker 2: think be that alpha target out wide and then defensively.

661
00:33:56,320 --> 00:33:58,120
Speaker 2: You know, we've talked about it in the off season.

662
00:33:58,160 --> 00:34:02,240
Speaker 2: Rashaun Gary, Chase Winovich, Devin Bush, they're all gone, So

663
00:34:02,320 --> 00:34:04,680
Speaker 2: the work is cut out for Don Brown a little bit.

664
00:34:05,200 --> 00:34:07,400
Speaker 2: They got so many good dudes, though, but they've got

665
00:34:07,400 --> 00:34:10,879
Speaker 2: so many good dudes. Oh my god, Lavert Hill, come on,

666
00:34:11,719 --> 00:34:13,560
Speaker 2: what's his name, Carlo camp Inside.

667
00:34:13,719 --> 00:34:14,799
Speaker 1: It would really help if.

668
00:34:14,800 --> 00:34:18,479
Speaker 2: Khalie Cutson went back to twenty seventeen form, that would

669
00:34:18,480 --> 00:34:18,960
Speaker 2: be nice.

670
00:34:19,080 --> 00:34:20,919
Speaker 1: I think he'll be fine. I think he'll be fine.

671
00:34:20,960 --> 00:34:23,040
Speaker 1: I think the secondary is going to be fine. This

672
00:34:24,440 --> 00:34:29,040
Speaker 1: I hate regurgitating platitudes like this could be the most

673
00:34:29,080 --> 00:34:33,600
Speaker 1: athletic defense Doan Brown has held at Michigan, but there

674
00:34:33,680 --> 00:34:36,480
Speaker 1: is some evidence that it could be one of the

675
00:34:36,560 --> 00:34:39,200
Speaker 1: faster defenses in the country. It should be a very fun,

676
00:34:39,239 --> 00:34:42,240
Speaker 1: angry defense. It should be. It's not an easy schedule.

677
00:34:43,040 --> 00:34:46,279
Speaker 1: It is not easy schedule. By the way, trebousche is,

678
00:34:46,320 --> 00:34:49,200
Speaker 1: I believe a cannon or a slingshot of some kind.

679
00:34:49,880 --> 00:34:53,879
Speaker 1: They could be starting zach charbonnet or sharbonette. I don't

680
00:34:53,920 --> 00:34:56,040
Speaker 1: know how you pronounced it. He's a freshman. I'll learn,

681
00:34:56,920 --> 00:35:00,320
Speaker 1: but that's his French tribouchet idea.

682
00:35:00,760 --> 00:35:03,399
Speaker 2: All right, I'm excited about Michigan. I got them coming

683
00:35:03,400 --> 00:35:04,319
Speaker 2: out of the East this year.

684
00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:08,480
Speaker 1: Interesting. What is it about Michigan before we move on

685
00:35:08,480 --> 00:35:10,280
Speaker 1: to the next team in the West that has them,

686
00:35:11,040 --> 00:35:12,920
Speaker 1: aside from playing the game in ann Arbor, in a

687
00:35:12,960 --> 00:35:16,680
Speaker 1: better place than Ohio State, another presumed favorite.

688
00:35:16,920 --> 00:35:20,520
Speaker 2: I am not entirely sure what Ohio State is going

689
00:35:20,520 --> 00:35:25,520
Speaker 2: to look like. Okay, so coaching coaching turnover, Yeah, I

690
00:35:26,040 --> 00:35:29,440
Speaker 2: go back to what I said before. Coaching turnover brings

691
00:35:29,480 --> 00:35:32,839
Speaker 2: with it a fair amount of uncertainty, and we don't

692
00:35:32,840 --> 00:35:35,680
Speaker 2: know what we're going to get out of justin fields. Yeah,

693
00:35:35,719 --> 00:35:39,000
Speaker 2: there's a fair amount of turnover there. Even though they've

694
00:35:39,040 --> 00:35:41,920
Speaker 2: got blue chips out the wazoo. I'm just not as

695
00:35:41,920 --> 00:35:44,200
Speaker 2: confident in them. We'll talk about Michigan State. I like

696
00:35:44,239 --> 00:35:47,640
Speaker 2: Michigan State too, but the issue was offense last season.

697
00:35:48,400 --> 00:35:50,960
Speaker 2: To what end will they be season that? Well, yeah,

698
00:35:51,080 --> 00:35:53,480
Speaker 2: many seasons and then Penn State. Penn State could go

699
00:35:53,560 --> 00:35:56,000
Speaker 2: any one of a thousand different directions. So Michigan is

700
00:35:56,000 --> 00:35:58,000
Speaker 2: a team I feel best about right now. So you

701
00:35:58,360 --> 00:36:02,920
Speaker 2: mentioned a tough schedule, so that is what well, with

702
00:36:03,040 --> 00:36:07,320
Speaker 2: the exception of road games at Penn State and I

703
00:36:07,360 --> 00:36:09,160
Speaker 2: guess at Wisconsin if you want to wump them in

704
00:36:10,160 --> 00:36:13,319
Speaker 2: all their hardest games their home, all their hard games

705
00:36:13,320 --> 00:36:16,120
Speaker 2: are at home. It's just the competition isn't the easiest.

706
00:36:16,160 --> 00:36:20,239
Speaker 2: We're not talking about a creampuff schedule here. I'm looking

707
00:36:20,239 --> 00:36:23,000
Speaker 2: at it. We've got Army Week two, which we've already

708
00:36:23,120 --> 00:36:28,440
Speaker 2: labeled as a interesting game, Yeah danger Notre Dame at home,

709
00:36:29,280 --> 00:36:33,000
Speaker 2: Michigan State at Indiana Ohio State to close out the

710
00:36:33,080 --> 00:36:35,480
Speaker 2: year that Indiana games won that I have circled as

711
00:36:35,520 --> 00:36:38,839
Speaker 2: a letdown look ahead spot. There's a Penn State game

712
00:36:38,880 --> 00:36:40,200
Speaker 2: in there, There's an Iowa game in there.

713
00:36:40,200 --> 00:36:43,600
Speaker 1: This isn't the easiest schedule by any stretch. By the way,

714
00:36:43,680 --> 00:36:46,720
Speaker 1: I did notice because you mentioned the Army game, Don Brown,

715
00:36:46,840 --> 00:36:48,719
Speaker 1: this is not on our fantasy things list. I don't

716
00:36:48,719 --> 00:36:52,640
Speaker 1: believe it ever has been. Don Brown said last week,

717
00:36:52,760 --> 00:36:56,319
Speaker 1: Michigan defensive coordinator, We've been practicing against the options since

718
00:36:58,640 --> 00:37:00,560
Speaker 1: it's great, awesome.

719
00:37:00,640 --> 00:37:04,920
Speaker 2: That's a good cool I love it.

720
00:37:02,640 --> 00:37:08,480
Speaker 1: It should be, but it's not a fantasy thing, all right.

721
00:37:08,880 --> 00:37:10,680
Speaker 1: So you have them coming out of the East. I do,

722
00:37:10,880 --> 00:37:12,879
Speaker 1: I do? Okay, what do you want to know about

723
00:37:12,880 --> 00:37:13,239
Speaker 1: in the West?

724
00:37:13,239 --> 00:37:16,319
Speaker 2: I want to know about Iowa. I want to talk

725
00:37:16,360 --> 00:37:18,800
Speaker 2: to their kids about Iowa, so do I. They've got

726
00:37:19,440 --> 00:37:23,759
Speaker 2: a brutal schedule, and that's saying something because they don't

727
00:37:23,760 --> 00:37:25,280
Speaker 2: even have to play Ohio State.

728
00:37:25,840 --> 00:37:26,680
Speaker 1: Yeah.

729
00:37:26,680 --> 00:37:30,839
Speaker 2: How confident are you that they get the running game

730
00:37:30,880 --> 00:37:33,239
Speaker 2: back to where it's been in years past, at least

731
00:37:33,280 --> 00:37:36,640
Speaker 2: to a serviceable level, so that it can compliment Nate

732
00:37:36,680 --> 00:37:39,239
Speaker 2: Stanley and move this team forward offensively.

733
00:37:41,280 --> 00:37:44,520
Speaker 1: I am. They took a step forward last year in

734
00:37:44,600 --> 00:37:47,359
Speaker 1: Big ten play. It was a rough going early on,

735
00:37:47,960 --> 00:37:50,400
Speaker 1: but against Big ten teams they were actually better than

736
00:37:50,440 --> 00:37:54,520
Speaker 1: they were than in twenty seventeen. So with the linemen

737
00:37:54,600 --> 00:37:59,120
Speaker 1: that they bring back with they're in good shape at

738
00:37:59,160 --> 00:38:03,200
Speaker 1: running back. I what's McKay I was gonna say, Makay Pfiffer,

739
00:38:03,840 --> 00:38:08,319
Speaker 1: Makai Sargent, McKay Sargeant or Mackay Pfiffer. Who's to say

740
00:38:08,320 --> 00:38:09,440
Speaker 1: about eligibill.

741
00:38:09,160 --> 00:38:11,839
Speaker 2: Kai Pfiffer could get one point two yards per carry.

742
00:38:11,960 --> 00:38:15,680
Speaker 1: That's true? Well, yeah, probably with mckaye sergeant there. And

743
00:38:15,800 --> 00:38:17,560
Speaker 1: I liked him in an all purpose way last year.

744
00:38:17,560 --> 00:38:20,480
Speaker 1: I thought he showed out pretty nicely at times. Bringing

745
00:38:20,520 --> 00:38:23,399
Speaker 1: back Nate Stanley my guy. We know he can be good.

746
00:38:23,600 --> 00:38:26,160
Speaker 1: There are times where he's not so good. The big

747
00:38:26,200 --> 00:38:28,960
Speaker 1: hole left by t. J. Hawkinson and Noah fan is

748
00:38:29,440 --> 00:38:31,600
Speaker 1: worrisome to me, both in the past and run game,

749
00:38:32,200 --> 00:38:35,279
Speaker 1: just because they were gravitational players that theoretically should be

750
00:38:35,360 --> 00:38:38,640
Speaker 1: opening things up or should have opened things up for Iowa.

751
00:38:38,760 --> 00:38:41,520
Speaker 1: So if the offensive line can get back, can get

752
00:38:41,560 --> 00:38:44,759
Speaker 1: better in run blocking, I think Iowa was going to

753
00:38:44,800 --> 00:38:47,080
Speaker 1: be in a pretty good place offensively. But at the

754
00:38:47,080 --> 00:38:51,000
Speaker 1: same time, I don't see that there needs to be

755
00:38:51,080 --> 00:38:54,160
Speaker 1: motivation on Iowa's end. They go what eight and four,

756
00:38:54,360 --> 00:38:58,680
Speaker 1: nine and four every year, and they seem happy with that.

757
00:38:58,960 --> 00:39:00,760
Speaker 1: This this seems to be a year that they're circling

758
00:39:00,760 --> 00:39:03,319
Speaker 1: as a you know, this is a great situation even

759
00:39:03,400 --> 00:39:05,640
Speaker 1: with the schedule. Iowa State on the road Week three.

760
00:39:05,719 --> 00:39:08,040
Speaker 1: I think they have what they're at Michigan, and then

761
00:39:08,040 --> 00:39:10,479
Speaker 1: they get Penn State in Iowa City the following week

762
00:39:10,520 --> 00:39:15,239
Speaker 1: in October. They're November is pretty tough on the road

763
00:39:15,239 --> 00:39:20,280
Speaker 1: at Northwestern and Wisconsin and Nebraska. But the way they play,

764
00:39:20,880 --> 00:39:22,560
Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's going to be more of the same.

765
00:39:22,600 --> 00:39:24,239
Speaker 1: So yeah, I think they can be a little bit

766
00:39:24,280 --> 00:39:27,440
Speaker 1: better with that experienced quarterback stretching the field. Even if

767
00:39:27,480 --> 00:39:30,279
Speaker 1: I don't love their receivers and pass catchers. They win

768
00:39:30,440 --> 00:39:33,600
Speaker 1: two of those those fourth quarter lead games that they

769
00:39:33,600 --> 00:39:36,719
Speaker 1: had last year that they blew. They're ten and two,

770
00:39:36,880 --> 00:39:39,920
Speaker 1: and I don't know how much differently we feel about Iowa.

771
00:39:40,040 --> 00:39:42,000
Speaker 1: So that's sort of where I'm at right now. Best cases,

772
00:39:42,000 --> 00:39:43,640
Speaker 1: they're ten and two. They run a little bit better,

773
00:39:43,840 --> 00:39:45,359
Speaker 1: and they look a lot like they did last year.

774
00:39:45,480 --> 00:39:48,319
Speaker 1: And the great news for them too is defensively they

775
00:39:48,360 --> 00:39:50,840
Speaker 1: might have the best rush end if it's not Chase

776
00:39:50,920 --> 00:39:54,319
Speaker 1: Young in the big ten and aj at Panessa. They're

777
00:39:54,320 --> 00:39:57,400
Speaker 1: in a good place up front. They they're strong at safety.

778
00:39:58,239 --> 00:40:01,279
Speaker 1: I just I don't know, it feels like we're saying

779
00:40:01,320 --> 00:40:04,160
Speaker 1: the same thing most years about Iowa does and so well,

780
00:40:04,160 --> 00:40:07,640
Speaker 1: I got to replace this big, tight end, and you

781
00:40:07,680 --> 00:40:09,960
Speaker 1: know they should be good along the lines. Quarterback is

782
00:40:10,080 --> 00:40:13,640
Speaker 1: generally decent, but they can't really run the ball. I mean,

783
00:40:13,880 --> 00:40:15,600
Speaker 1: this whole thing has been from twenty eighteen and you

784
00:40:15,600 --> 00:40:19,000
Speaker 1: probably didn't even realize. So yeah, if they're worse than

785
00:40:19,040 --> 00:40:20,680
Speaker 1: moving the ball without the tight ends, if the new

786
00:40:20,680 --> 00:40:23,279
Speaker 1: corners struggle, which year over year they keep finding new

787
00:40:23,280 --> 00:40:25,960
Speaker 1: corners that are amazing, they go seven and five, but

788
00:40:26,640 --> 00:40:28,680
Speaker 1: it's probably again going to be eight or nine wins

789
00:40:28,960 --> 00:40:32,400
Speaker 1: their Utah East. What a weird sister state that Iowa

790
00:40:32,400 --> 00:40:35,279
Speaker 1: and Utah could make for each other. Let's go to

791
00:40:35,320 --> 00:40:40,840
Speaker 1: Michigan State. Okay, because I'm a glutton for punishment after

792
00:40:41,000 --> 00:40:45,960
Speaker 1: last year's and this one's in quotes offense and the

793
00:40:46,040 --> 00:40:51,439
Speaker 1: off season, I'm gonna be very kind again Coach Reshuffling. Yeah,

794
00:40:51,520 --> 00:40:53,799
Speaker 1: what's that? It's just I don't know what it was.

795
00:40:53,840 --> 00:40:55,720
Speaker 1: I have the full list here, by the way, it's incredible,

796
00:40:55,760 --> 00:40:58,240
Speaker 1: thank you. If Michigan State's gonna if they're gonna heal

797
00:40:58,360 --> 00:41:00,480
Speaker 1: on offense, if they're going to begin to eel as

798
00:41:00,480 --> 00:41:04,880
Speaker 1: an offense, who or what will be that medicine?

799
00:41:05,400 --> 00:41:09,000
Speaker 2: Well, first off, heel is the proper word to use

800
00:41:09,120 --> 00:41:12,920
Speaker 2: because They were nicked up on offense, and by nicked up,

801
00:41:12,960 --> 00:41:17,320
Speaker 2: I mean pretty much destroyed because of injuries. Brian Lawerki

802
00:41:18,120 --> 00:41:22,200
Speaker 2: hurt his shoulder, didn't really recover. His wide receiving corps

803
00:41:22,280 --> 00:41:25,160
Speaker 2: was all banged up. Felton Davis blew out, and Achilles

804
00:41:25,200 --> 00:41:28,080
Speaker 2: Cody White broke his hand. Darryl Stewart hurt his ankle.

805
00:41:28,960 --> 00:41:29,200
Speaker 1: LJ.

806
00:41:29,360 --> 00:41:32,799
Speaker 2: Scott wasn't healthy for most of the year either, so

807
00:41:32,840 --> 00:41:34,880
Speaker 2: they were they were just banged up. It was the

808
00:41:34,880 --> 00:41:39,399
Speaker 2: first brutal because he really was. He was great, and

809
00:41:39,840 --> 00:41:43,879
Speaker 2: it just sucks. That's football. This was the first year

810
00:41:43,960 --> 00:41:49,080
Speaker 2: ever for Mark D'Antonio where he had exactly zero offensive

811
00:41:49,080 --> 00:41:51,120
Speaker 2: players make the All Big Ten team.

812
00:41:51,840 --> 00:41:56,480
Speaker 1: Wow, a little factoid for you. Well deserved, well deserved.

813
00:41:56,480 --> 00:41:59,279
Speaker 2: The other thing here, separate from injuries, is that the

814
00:41:59,320 --> 00:42:02,560
Speaker 2: offensive line and really was comically bad at run blocking.

815
00:42:03,400 --> 00:42:06,839
Speaker 2: And you know, by every blocking metric we have when

816
00:42:07,400 --> 00:42:11,200
Speaker 2: you look at Bill C's numbers and all these stuff,

817
00:42:11,320 --> 00:42:14,400
Speaker 2: rates and what does it all mean, I'll tell you

818
00:42:14,400 --> 00:42:16,719
Speaker 2: what it means in all of them. Michigan State has

819
00:42:16,719 --> 00:42:19,480
Speaker 2: been terrible the last two years and that needs to

820
00:42:19,520 --> 00:42:21,640
Speaker 2: improve if they want to try and move forward now.

821
00:42:22,400 --> 00:42:24,560
Speaker 2: In twenty nineteen. They got to stay healthy. They got

822
00:42:24,560 --> 00:42:27,640
Speaker 2: to heal literally and then to heal figuratively. They got

823
00:42:27,640 --> 00:42:30,160
Speaker 2: to figure out something along the offensive line. Now, the

824
00:42:30,239 --> 00:42:33,200
Speaker 2: good news for them is that they bring back a ton.

825
00:42:33,239 --> 00:42:36,719
Speaker 2: They've got seventeen returning starters. It's the fourth most in

826
00:42:36,760 --> 00:42:40,160
Speaker 2: the country. Nine on offense, eight on defense, which I'll

827
00:42:40,200 --> 00:42:44,440
Speaker 2: talk about here momentarily. But you mentioned the coach shuffle.

828
00:42:45,080 --> 00:42:48,239
Speaker 2: This is interesting to me. It's interesting because we saw

829
00:42:48,239 --> 00:42:52,960
Speaker 2: what Ryan Day did at Ohio State, essentially ripping down

830
00:42:53,239 --> 00:42:56,560
Speaker 2: the defensive coaching staff to the studs, the one stud

831
00:42:56,600 --> 00:43:02,160
Speaker 2: being Larry Johnson. Mark D'Antonio ain't here to cause no trouble, Dan,

832
00:43:03,239 --> 00:43:05,520
Speaker 2: He's just here to do the coaching staff shuffle.

833
00:43:06,400 --> 00:43:09,880
Speaker 1: Right. Did he get that joke? Now? Gotcha? He got that.

834
00:43:10,120 --> 00:43:13,680
Speaker 1: I'm just letting it breathe, Okay.

835
00:43:14,640 --> 00:43:19,640
Speaker 2: Former quarterbacks coach Brad Salem is now the offensive coordinator

836
00:43:19,680 --> 00:43:23,879
Speaker 2: slash running backs coach. Former offensive coordinator slash running backs

837
00:43:23,880 --> 00:43:27,759
Speaker 2: coach Dave Warner is on the staff still as the

838
00:43:27,800 --> 00:43:31,120
Speaker 2: new quarterbacks coach, a position he coached at Michigan State

839
00:43:31,440 --> 00:43:34,680
Speaker 2: from two thousand and seven to twenty twelve. Former co

840
00:43:34,840 --> 00:43:38,799
Speaker 2: offensive coordinator and tight ends coach Jim Bowman. He's now

841
00:43:38,840 --> 00:43:43,000
Speaker 2: the offensive line coach. Former offensive line coach Mark Statton

842
00:43:43,040 --> 00:43:46,560
Speaker 2: now coaches the tight ends, a position he coached previously

843
00:43:46,600 --> 00:43:49,720
Speaker 2: from two thousand and seven to twenty ten. And former

844
00:43:49,760 --> 00:43:54,000
Speaker 2: assistant defensive backs a special teams coach Don Treadwell now

845
00:43:54,040 --> 00:43:56,560
Speaker 2: coaches the wide receivers, a position he coached from Michigan

846
00:43:56,600 --> 00:43:59,879
Speaker 2: State at Michigan State from two thousand and seven twenty ten.

847
00:44:00,440 --> 00:44:02,520
Speaker 2: And if you're wondering what happened to the wide receivers

848
00:44:02,520 --> 00:44:05,360
Speaker 2: coach Terry Samuel will now he's assistant defensive backs coach.

849
00:44:06,239 --> 00:44:09,640
Speaker 1: Then feels it feels like an episode of Undercover Boss.

850
00:44:09,920 --> 00:44:14,360
Speaker 1: Everybody's undercover, where it's like we went we went to

851
00:44:14,360 --> 00:44:18,880
Speaker 1: the Freedo lay factory and eleven different executives where undercover,

852
00:44:19,520 --> 00:44:22,080
Speaker 1: this is music chairs, it's back to the future.

853
00:44:22,120 --> 00:44:24,080
Speaker 2: They're trying to go back to two thousand and seven

854
00:44:24,320 --> 00:44:27,600
Speaker 2: and maybe it'll work. Mark D'Antonio is a loyal guy.

855
00:44:27,680 --> 00:44:30,000
Speaker 2: He values loyalty. He wants to try and keep the

856
00:44:30,040 --> 00:44:32,879
Speaker 2: same guys in place, and and God help him here.

857
00:44:33,360 --> 00:44:36,399
Speaker 2: What helps him, I think a lot is that their

858
00:44:36,440 --> 00:44:38,520
Speaker 2: defense is going to be elite. I'm not going to

859
00:44:38,600 --> 00:44:42,160
Speaker 2: go through and talk about all the names, but Joe

860
00:44:42,160 --> 00:44:46,799
Speaker 2: Bachi coming back at linebacker, Josiah Scott a lockdown at cornerback,

861
00:44:47,440 --> 00:44:50,680
Speaker 2: Kenny will Leaks was the Big Ten defensive lineman of

862
00:44:50,719 --> 00:44:53,960
Speaker 2: the year. And then we've got the two brothers. I

863
00:44:54,000 --> 00:45:00,200
Speaker 2: looked up phonetically. How you say Mike Panashuk and Jacob Pashuk. Okay,

864
00:45:00,239 --> 00:45:02,480
Speaker 2: there are two brothers along the line who you might

865
00:45:02,560 --> 00:45:03,640
Speaker 2: be excited to.

866
00:45:03,600 --> 00:45:06,120
Speaker 1: Know talk Polish to each other to call out signals.

867
00:45:07,400 --> 00:45:08,759
Speaker 1: Is Rocky Lombardi back?

868
00:45:09,320 --> 00:45:11,560
Speaker 2: Rocky Lombarti is back, but he is not playing quarterback

869
00:45:11,560 --> 00:45:14,200
Speaker 2: because Brian Willwurkie is your presumed starting quarterback.

870
00:45:14,239 --> 00:45:17,359
Speaker 1: What's is he the assistant offensive coordinator? What is Rocky

871
00:45:17,440 --> 00:45:20,319
Speaker 1: Lombardi doing? Is he just the backup quarterback? I guess

872
00:45:20,360 --> 00:45:22,399
Speaker 1: he's just the backup quarterback with the cool last name.

873
00:45:22,440 --> 00:45:25,200
Speaker 1: What a name? What the whole name? It's like naming

874
00:45:25,239 --> 00:45:26,640
Speaker 1: your cond terminator predator.

875
00:45:27,200 --> 00:45:32,239
Speaker 2: Right. It's a tough Big Ten road schedule. It's a

876
00:45:32,239 --> 00:45:34,279
Speaker 2: tough Big Ten road schedule. They're in good position to

877
00:45:34,320 --> 00:45:37,840
Speaker 2: start five and zero Week three at ASU's bit of

878
00:45:37,840 --> 00:45:41,000
Speaker 2: a Bellweather game, maybe more for ASU, but definitely a

879
00:45:41,040 --> 00:45:44,320
Speaker 2: measuring stick to see where we're at with this hopefully

880
00:45:44,360 --> 00:45:47,880
Speaker 2: healthy Michigan State offense. There are seasons going to be

881
00:45:47,880 --> 00:45:50,760
Speaker 2: defined by a six week stretch that they have between

882
00:45:50,800 --> 00:45:54,760
Speaker 2: early October and mid November when they go to Ohio State,

883
00:45:54,880 --> 00:45:58,600
Speaker 2: two Wisconsin home against Penn State, at home against Illinois,

884
00:45:58,600 --> 00:45:59,800
Speaker 2: and then too Michigan.

885
00:46:00,640 --> 00:46:04,320
Speaker 1: Okay, the bus is what is your clearest answer? It's

886
00:46:04,760 --> 00:46:07,000
Speaker 1: it's not at all difficult to yuck it up and

887
00:46:07,040 --> 00:46:10,920
Speaker 1: say Hardy Harror, Mark D'Antonio, shuffle the deck, shuffle the

888
00:46:11,000 --> 00:46:14,080
Speaker 1: chairs on the whatever. What is? What is? Is it

889
00:46:14,360 --> 00:46:17,000
Speaker 1: just health because it doesn't feel like when you watch

890
00:46:17,040 --> 00:46:20,319
Speaker 1: recent Mischione. No, it's not just health. That's that's the

891
00:46:20,480 --> 00:46:21,960
Speaker 1: cure to what happened.

892
00:46:22,000 --> 00:46:24,400
Speaker 2: Well, it's the most immediate cure to get better because

893
00:46:24,400 --> 00:46:25,920
Speaker 2: it really got in their way last year. But I

894
00:46:26,000 --> 00:46:28,080
Speaker 2: for sure they need to figure out the offensive line

895
00:46:28,080 --> 00:46:30,600
Speaker 2: in the running game. It can't all be on Brian Laworkie.

896
00:46:31,160 --> 00:46:34,160
Speaker 2: He tried as best he could last year before he

897
00:46:34,239 --> 00:46:36,440
Speaker 2: got hurt to carry the team, and to some extent

898
00:46:36,520 --> 00:46:38,880
Speaker 2: he did, but they just weren't good enough. They haven't

899
00:46:38,920 --> 00:46:41,439
Speaker 2: been good enough at running the football. They need to come.

900
00:46:41,400 --> 00:46:44,120
Speaker 1: Up with the solution there. That'll be all right. On defense,

901
00:46:44,200 --> 00:46:45,640
Speaker 1: They're gonna be elite on defense.

902
00:46:46,120 --> 00:46:51,080
Speaker 2: Why because they've got eight starters back, big talent at

903
00:46:51,120 --> 00:46:54,920
Speaker 2: all three levels of that defense. Right, They'll be fine.

904
00:46:55,080 --> 00:46:57,040
Speaker 2: They'll be fine. It's gonna be a very good defense.

905
00:46:57,239 --> 00:46:59,960
Speaker 1: It is amazing to me when when teams like that

906
00:47:00,239 --> 00:47:03,240
Speaker 1: with such inappt offenses, because Michigan State kept it together

907
00:47:03,280 --> 00:47:05,400
Speaker 1: on defense last year they did when things were just

908
00:47:05,560 --> 00:47:07,840
Speaker 1: totally shut down an offense, that's always impressive.

909
00:47:08,600 --> 00:47:10,320
Speaker 2: I think they're going to be very good on defense,

910
00:47:10,880 --> 00:47:13,960
Speaker 2: one of the best defenses in the country. I have

911
00:47:14,040 --> 00:47:16,680
Speaker 2: the same questions you do about the offense. Okay, but

912
00:47:17,360 --> 00:47:21,919
Speaker 2: a lot of returning talent, maybe nine to three could

913
00:47:21,960 --> 00:47:22,680
Speaker 2: see ten and two.

914
00:47:23,560 --> 00:47:28,200
Speaker 1: Whoa did you see their alternate uniforms. I don't like them. No,

915
00:47:28,560 --> 00:47:31,040
Speaker 1: I don't like them at all. I don't like it.

916
00:47:30,960 --> 00:47:32,680
Speaker 2: It looks like they're about to play a game of

917
00:47:32,760 --> 00:47:34,279
Speaker 2: laser tag Dan. I don't like it.

918
00:47:35,680 --> 00:47:37,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, I tweeted it, comparing it to the look of

919
00:47:37,719 --> 00:47:41,080
Speaker 1: an absinthe bottle. It's not great. Yeah, And you know

920
00:47:41,080 --> 00:47:43,319
Speaker 1: what the thing is that always bothers me about, like

921
00:47:43,360 --> 00:47:46,800
Speaker 1: we had those like copper tinted Michigan State all uniforms

922
00:47:46,840 --> 00:47:49,200
Speaker 1: a couple of years ago. Get it out always Yeah,

923
00:47:49,600 --> 00:47:52,080
Speaker 1: what did you like those? No? No, I didn't like

924
00:47:52,120 --> 00:47:56,160
Speaker 1: those at all. The state script that the basketball team

925
00:47:56,200 --> 00:47:59,520
Speaker 1: has I think is so cool and they should lean

926
00:47:59,520 --> 00:48:03,239
Speaker 1: into that sort of recherie modern look for football. But

927
00:48:03,520 --> 00:48:06,120
Speaker 1: maybe they haven't. I just forgot, but I love that

928
00:48:06,239 --> 00:48:07,919
Speaker 1: state script. Love it so much.

929
00:48:08,080 --> 00:48:10,920
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945
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960
00:49:42,960 --> 00:49:44,840
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961
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979
00:50:43,680 --> 00:50:44,600
Speaker 2: talk about Jeff Brohm.

980
00:50:45,560 --> 00:50:47,480
Speaker 1: Okay, whoa pro.

981
00:50:48,800 --> 00:50:52,600
Speaker 2: Jeff brom elects to stay at Purdue. He had offers

982
00:50:52,640 --> 00:50:58,640
Speaker 2: from Wellville, maybe other places. Who knows by Ontown IronPigs, Yeah,

983
00:50:58,840 --> 00:50:59,920
Speaker 2: never know, never stops.

984
00:51:00,120 --> 00:51:05,200
Speaker 1: Yeah. At Purdue this season, he's losing three offensive linemen.

985
00:51:05,800 --> 00:51:08,799
Speaker 1: He's losing his top two running backs from a year ago.

986
00:51:10,040 --> 00:51:12,160
Speaker 1: I hate to ask this question because it's going to

987
00:51:12,200 --> 00:51:14,400
Speaker 1: sound like I'm really down on Purdue, and I'm really not.

988
00:51:14,440 --> 00:51:16,759
Speaker 1: I'm really always rooting for this team. I love pro

989
00:51:16,960 --> 00:51:20,719
Speaker 1: You sure, but truly, is there enough talent on this

990
00:51:20,840 --> 00:51:23,160
Speaker 1: roster right now to fill in all the gaps they're

991
00:51:23,200 --> 00:51:28,319
Speaker 1: going to have and still somehow some way contend or

992
00:51:28,400 --> 00:51:32,560
Speaker 1: qualify for a bowl game? If you watched any of

993
00:51:32,560 --> 00:51:35,120
Speaker 1: their bowl game last year, that's a good question. I

994
00:51:35,160 --> 00:51:37,000
Speaker 1: was really hoping you're gonna say, I have a big question.

995
00:51:38,040 --> 00:51:41,759
Speaker 1: Can their drum get any bigger? Can that drum? Can

996
00:51:41,800 --> 00:51:46,840
Speaker 1: they expand the drum? No, it's a reasonable question. It

997
00:51:46,920 --> 00:51:49,960
Speaker 1: hinges on a couple of pretty huge things. And that's

998
00:51:50,560 --> 00:51:54,359
Speaker 1: one Elijah Sindelar and to the defense, and you know,

999
00:51:54,440 --> 00:51:58,200
Speaker 1: the singularity was very good against Minnesota and Arizona, I

1000
00:51:58,200 --> 00:52:00,520
Speaker 1: believe two years ago, and that's kind of it. It

1001
00:52:00,640 --> 00:52:02,680
Speaker 1: was not great at all starting the season last year.

1002
00:52:02,680 --> 00:52:05,640
Speaker 1: If you remember they had they lose to Eastern Michigan.

1003
00:52:05,760 --> 00:52:08,320
Speaker 1: They have you know, they go back and forth against Missoo,

1004
00:52:08,360 --> 00:52:11,120
Speaker 1: but lose that game. They have Rondelle Moore in a

1005
00:52:11,160 --> 00:52:13,680
Speaker 1: losing effort against Northwestern to open the season, so they

1006
00:52:13,680 --> 00:52:15,600
Speaker 1: start owing three and then they have you know, this

1007
00:52:15,719 --> 00:52:18,960
Speaker 1: incredible high against Ohio State and big emotional game at home.

1008
00:52:19,920 --> 00:52:22,080
Speaker 1: They ran all right, they threw it well with David

1009
00:52:22,080 --> 00:52:25,080
Speaker 1: Blau and they were they were good at generating big plays.

1010
00:52:25,480 --> 00:52:28,680
Speaker 1: But man, did the defense take a huge step back

1011
00:52:28,800 --> 00:52:32,560
Speaker 1: last year because two years ago they have this experienced defense,

1012
00:52:32,680 --> 00:52:36,320
Speaker 1: especially upfront, and then they were just they were below

1013
00:52:36,400 --> 00:52:40,560
Speaker 1: average against pretty much everything last year. And they have

1014
00:52:40,640 --> 00:52:42,719
Speaker 1: one of the most exciting dudes in the country and

1015
00:52:42,880 --> 00:52:48,120
Speaker 1: ron Dale Moore and some inexperienced dudes, like you're mentioning, uh,

1016
00:52:48,480 --> 00:52:51,480
Speaker 1: you know, running back and receiver around him, and the

1017
00:52:51,560 --> 00:52:57,600
Speaker 1: line is really thin. I'm not feeling good. I you know,

1018
00:52:57,760 --> 00:53:00,120
Speaker 1: the best cases, you know, the defense shores up and

1019
00:53:00,239 --> 00:53:03,160
Speaker 1: Elijah Sindelar looks like what David Blou looked like last year,

1020
00:53:03,160 --> 00:53:06,400
Speaker 1: and they can go eight and four, but I see

1021
00:53:06,440 --> 00:53:08,360
Speaker 1: like three or four different ways that they could go

1022
00:53:08,400 --> 00:53:10,200
Speaker 1: four and eight or five and seven. Yeah, I'm looking

1023
00:53:10,239 --> 00:53:12,800
Speaker 1: at it right now. He's running for his life behind

1024
00:53:12,800 --> 00:53:17,120
Speaker 1: that line. Their their schedule is pretty tricky. I mean

1025
00:53:17,120 --> 00:53:20,520
Speaker 1: it's on the road against Nevada, Vanderbilt, and TCO. He's

1026
00:53:20,560 --> 00:53:24,560
Speaker 1: not pushover games. They go two Penn State, they go

1027
00:53:24,600 --> 00:53:28,239
Speaker 1: to Iowa. Their November is tricky with Nebraska on the

1028
00:53:28,320 --> 00:53:30,960
Speaker 1: road against Northwestern on the road against Wisconsin. You know,

1029
00:53:31,000 --> 00:53:32,799
Speaker 1: the Oaken Bucket game at least is at home. But

1030
00:53:32,840 --> 00:53:37,839
Speaker 1: Indiana is looking better and better, So I have them

1031
00:53:37,920 --> 00:53:40,560
Speaker 1: scrapping for bowl eligibility again. Yeah, and it's gonna come

1032
00:53:40,560 --> 00:53:43,200
Speaker 1: down to those fifty to fifty gains. That's how it feels. Yeah,

1033
00:53:43,239 --> 00:53:47,839
Speaker 1: I'm with you. Sorry, We're next, all right, oh Man

1034
00:53:47,920 --> 00:53:51,279
Speaker 1: with a tone of defeat in his poy No, you know,

1035
00:53:52,120 --> 00:53:54,400
Speaker 1: I'm rooting for Jeff Brow. I'm rooting for Purdue. But

1036
00:53:54,960 --> 00:53:57,319
Speaker 1: I looked at it too, and I'm thinking, I just don't.

1037
00:53:57,480 --> 00:53:59,399
Speaker 1: I don't see it. I don't I don't know how

1038
00:53:59,400 --> 00:54:01,720
Speaker 1: it happens. I hope it does. It's tough. I also

1039
00:54:01,800 --> 00:54:03,640
Speaker 1: realize I've said that each of the last two years

1040
00:54:03,640 --> 00:54:07,160
Speaker 1: about Purdue, but this year, really, truly, I don't know

1041
00:54:07,160 --> 00:54:09,759
Speaker 1: how it happens if they get to a bowl. Yeah,

1042
00:54:09,880 --> 00:54:11,759
Speaker 1: fair enough, but you know, I think a lot of that,

1043
00:54:11,880 --> 00:54:13,080
Speaker 1: not a lot of it, but there's a little bit

1044
00:54:13,080 --> 00:54:15,000
Speaker 1: of the taste left in our mouths after the last

1045
00:54:15,040 --> 00:54:18,000
Speaker 1: year's bowl game where they're just completely run off the field.

1046
00:54:18,120 --> 00:54:24,439
Speaker 1: I run off. So, speaking of which Penn State play

1047
00:54:24,520 --> 00:54:27,120
Speaker 1: Michigan last year and looked kind of the same way.

1048
00:54:28,680 --> 00:54:31,719
Speaker 1: Their offense fell off kind of significantly last year, which

1049
00:54:31,760 --> 00:54:35,840
Speaker 1: surprised me given how they've recruited. Given Trace mcsorley's experience

1050
00:54:35,840 --> 00:54:38,200
Speaker 1: going into the season, I thought he was at best

1051
00:54:38,239 --> 00:54:40,680
Speaker 1: average and he was hurt offense, he was hurt. He

1052
00:54:40,760 --> 00:54:43,480
Speaker 1: was hurt for a big chun sport. For that reason,

1053
00:54:44,200 --> 00:54:48,240
Speaker 1: he looked very average with a good amount of experience

1054
00:54:48,239 --> 00:54:54,040
Speaker 1: around him. So can you see Penn State doing drastic

1055
00:54:54,080 --> 00:54:57,719
Speaker 1: things to improve this offense or are they in their

1056
00:54:57,840 --> 00:55:01,319
Speaker 1: heads saying what you're saying they were beat up. A

1057
00:55:01,360 --> 00:55:03,400
Speaker 1: healthy Sean Clifford is gonna better than a beat up

1058
00:55:03,400 --> 00:55:06,120
Speaker 1: Trace mcsorly. They have, You know, it was with Ricky.

1059
00:55:06,200 --> 00:55:08,279
Speaker 1: Ricky Slade was the number one running back couple of

1060
00:55:08,360 --> 00:55:11,440
Speaker 1: years ago. kJ Hamler showed out last year. Justin Shorter

1061
00:55:11,480 --> 00:55:15,480
Speaker 1: was a number one receiver recruit last year. You know, defensively,

1062
00:55:15,560 --> 00:55:20,040
Speaker 1: they return a top ten national defense. Are they trying

1063
00:55:20,080 --> 00:55:22,160
Speaker 1: to overhaul things or they just.

1064
00:55:22,600 --> 00:55:24,960
Speaker 2: Is it just an offseason tweak. I don't think it's

1065
00:55:24,960 --> 00:55:27,360
Speaker 2: an overhaul. I don't think it's an overhaul.

1066
00:55:27,480 --> 00:55:28,000
Speaker 1: Should it be?

1067
00:55:28,719 --> 00:55:30,400
Speaker 2: I don't think it's I don't think it needs to be.

1068
00:55:30,600 --> 00:55:33,439
Speaker 2: I think it's overhaul enough given the fact that Sean

1069
00:55:33,520 --> 00:55:35,680
Speaker 2: Clifford is now stepping in as starting quarterback.

1070
00:55:36,040 --> 00:55:38,680
Speaker 1: Okay, you like them, I do, I do?

1071
00:55:38,760 --> 00:55:40,200
Speaker 2: You know, the more I read about him, we haven't

1072
00:55:40,200 --> 00:55:44,160
Speaker 2: seen a whole lot of Shan Clifford, but former Blue Chipper,

1073
00:55:44,280 --> 00:55:47,319
Speaker 2: former Elite eleven kid. He's got a big arm, not

1074
00:55:47,560 --> 00:55:51,040
Speaker 2: quite the mobility of Trace mcsory, but quick enough to

1075
00:55:51,120 --> 00:55:53,960
Speaker 2: extend plays, which is really all you need. What I

1076
00:55:54,040 --> 00:55:56,799
Speaker 2: like about him is he seems like a real football nerd,

1077
00:55:56,920 --> 00:55:57,640
Speaker 2: and I mean that.

1078
00:55:57,560 --> 00:55:59,400
Speaker 1: In a in a very good way.

1079
00:56:00,040 --> 00:56:03,440
Speaker 2: He's super intense about the minutia, a lot of folks

1080
00:56:03,480 --> 00:56:07,440
Speaker 2: touting the leadership, all things. You hear this about everybody, right,

1081
00:56:07,520 --> 00:56:10,480
Speaker 2: but these are things you like to hear. He committed

1082
00:56:10,520 --> 00:56:13,319
Speaker 2: to Penn State very early on, so he's exactly where

1083
00:56:13,360 --> 00:56:16,080
Speaker 2: he wants to be, and he waited his turn behind Yeah,

1084
00:56:16,520 --> 00:56:21,080
Speaker 2: a starting quarterback that was there forever in Trace pixorly

1085
00:56:21,160 --> 00:56:24,960
Speaker 2: thought Da David thought he was going to have to

1086
00:56:25,280 --> 00:56:28,760
Speaker 2: battle Tommy Stevens for the job. But Tommy Stevens bolted

1087
00:56:28,800 --> 00:56:30,800
Speaker 2: and now it seems like it's fallen in his lap.

1088
00:56:31,080 --> 00:56:33,319
Speaker 2: They haven't officially given him the job yet, but he's

1089
00:56:34,120 --> 00:56:36,720
Speaker 2: he's gonna be the guy. What I'm curious to see though,

1090
00:56:37,360 --> 00:56:40,800
Speaker 2: on the offensive side, is how the play calling looks

1091
00:56:41,440 --> 00:56:43,920
Speaker 2: in year two now under Ricky Ronnie. There were a

1092
00:56:43,960 --> 00:56:49,400
Speaker 2: couple moments last year where he was overly conservative. I

1093
00:56:49,400 --> 00:56:50,680
Speaker 2: don't know what it was. I don't know if it

1094
00:56:50,719 --> 00:56:55,560
Speaker 2: was quite big games or what caused it, but some

1095
00:56:55,600 --> 00:56:58,360
Speaker 2: spots where he was very conservative, where it felt like

1096
00:56:58,400 --> 00:57:00,600
Speaker 2: he was playing not to lose, where the offense got

1097
00:57:00,600 --> 00:57:01,560
Speaker 2: a little predictable.

1098
00:57:02,080 --> 00:57:03,920
Speaker 1: There were other moments where.

1099
00:57:03,920 --> 00:57:06,440
Speaker 2: It seemed like, Wow, this is this is a guy

1100
00:57:06,440 --> 00:57:08,959
Speaker 2: who knows what he's doing, And there were a very

1101
00:57:08,960 --> 00:57:11,880
Speaker 2: small fraction of plays where you were curious what the

1102
00:57:11,880 --> 00:57:15,120
Speaker 2: grand scheme was. I don't think they need an overhaul.

1103
00:57:15,480 --> 00:57:17,880
Speaker 2: I think they're going to get a personnel overhaul, which

1104
00:57:17,880 --> 00:57:20,160
Speaker 2: will change the way the offense looks to some degree.

1105
00:57:20,240 --> 00:57:23,640
Speaker 2: But as long as they can make some modifications to

1106
00:57:23,680 --> 00:57:26,280
Speaker 2: what we saw last year, I think they're going to

1107
00:57:26,320 --> 00:57:29,160
Speaker 2: be in a good spot. Where there was an issue though,

1108
00:57:29,720 --> 00:57:32,080
Speaker 2: and a big one was that wide receiver. I talked

1109
00:57:32,080 --> 00:57:35,080
Speaker 2: about it earlier. Josh Datis leaves a couple of years later,

1110
00:57:35,640 --> 00:57:39,280
Speaker 2: guys are dropping passes, They're not getting open. They need

1111
00:57:39,320 --> 00:57:42,200
Speaker 2: to play better. Heads heads are falling off.

1112
00:57:42,200 --> 00:57:42,480
Speaker 1: Sure.

1113
00:57:43,000 --> 00:57:46,600
Speaker 2: kJ Hamler, I think is the name that you know

1114
00:57:46,760 --> 00:57:49,640
Speaker 2: that you love, that we know that we love. He's

1115
00:57:49,760 --> 00:57:53,920
Speaker 2: very good out wide. He represents a player that you

1116
00:57:54,000 --> 00:57:57,960
Speaker 2: might see us differently. Yeah, because of his speed. He's

1117
00:57:57,960 --> 00:58:01,640
Speaker 2: a guy to keep your eye. Yeah, gravitational player. Yeah,

1118
00:58:01,840 --> 00:58:04,840
Speaker 2: keep your eye on what they do with kJ Hamler.

1119
00:58:05,560 --> 00:58:08,080
Speaker 2: Outside of him, though, they're gonna need Johan Dotson. They're

1120
00:58:08,080 --> 00:58:12,040
Speaker 2: gonna need Justin Shorter to step up out wide. They've

1121
00:58:12,080 --> 00:58:15,640
Speaker 2: also got Pat Fryermuth at tight end, which is the

1122
00:58:15,760 --> 00:58:19,240
Speaker 2: ultimate safety. Valve led the team in TD receptions as

1123
00:58:19,280 --> 00:58:22,280
Speaker 2: a freshman last year. Having that big target's gonna help

1124
00:58:22,280 --> 00:58:26,680
Speaker 2: Sean Clifford. But sure, they got to get better out wide.

1125
00:58:26,880 --> 00:58:30,240
Speaker 2: I don't know what's gonna happen with Ricky Slade at

1126
00:58:30,320 --> 00:58:35,160
Speaker 2: running back. Uh, we'll see. Lines should be okay. They

1127
00:58:35,320 --> 00:58:37,920
Speaker 2: even though they lose Ryan Bates and Connor McGovern.

1128
00:58:38,560 --> 00:58:39,920
Speaker 1: Those got starting tackles right.

1129
00:58:39,960 --> 00:58:42,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, They've they've got enough talent that I think they

1130
00:58:42,400 --> 00:58:46,360
Speaker 2: should be able to plug in. It's the line will

1131
00:58:46,360 --> 00:58:49,720
Speaker 2: be fine. It's not gonna be recruited very well. They've

1132
00:58:49,720 --> 00:58:52,480
Speaker 2: recruited extremely well. They've got the talent to plug and play.

1133
00:58:53,080 --> 00:58:55,240
Speaker 2: It's not going to ever get to the point, hopefully

1134
00:58:55,280 --> 00:58:59,440
Speaker 2: of like the offensive line crisis of twenty twelve. Like

1135
00:58:59,520 --> 00:59:02,439
Speaker 2: it's gonna be okay, even though they lose two guys

1136
00:59:02,440 --> 00:59:05,280
Speaker 2: who played at a really high level. I'm excited to

1137
00:59:05,320 --> 00:59:08,640
Speaker 2: see what that looks like. The defense, though, is if

1138
00:59:08,640 --> 00:59:10,800
Speaker 2: you've got no other reason to watch Penn State football,

1139
00:59:12,240 --> 00:59:14,640
Speaker 2: the defense is going to be a ton of fun. Yeah,

1140
00:59:15,360 --> 00:59:19,840
Speaker 2: because they're young, they're mobile, agile, hostile.

1141
00:59:21,240 --> 00:59:21,640
Speaker 1: I'd like that.

1142
00:59:21,760 --> 00:59:25,720
Speaker 2: A dude name E Tour He tour gross matos. Yeah, yeah,

1143
00:59:26,600 --> 00:59:29,280
Speaker 2: they need to get better against the run, but yeah,

1144
00:59:29,640 --> 00:59:32,680
Speaker 2: E Tour gross matos ygm mm hmm.

1145
00:59:33,200 --> 00:59:33,680
Speaker 1: Very good.

1146
00:59:34,480 --> 00:59:37,840
Speaker 2: A ton of talent at defensive end, A ton of talent.

1147
00:59:37,920 --> 00:59:39,640
Speaker 2: They've got more guys than they know what to do with.

1148
00:59:40,560 --> 00:59:44,040
Speaker 2: They got Micah Parsons back at linebacker who led the

1149
00:59:44,080 --> 00:59:47,720
Speaker 2: team in tackles as a freshman. That's after they moved

1150
00:59:47,800 --> 00:59:51,600
Speaker 2: him from defensive end. And the schedule I think is

1151
00:59:51,600 --> 00:59:55,280
Speaker 2: pretty favorable. It's about as good as you could want

1152
00:59:55,320 --> 00:59:56,479
Speaker 2: for being in the Big Ten East.

1153
00:59:56,800 --> 00:59:59,880
Speaker 1: I also learned by the way on defense, John Reid

1154
00:59:59,920 --> 01:00:06,720
Speaker 1: is back forty seven. He's like John Stockough. Yeah, oh incredible. Okay.

1155
01:00:06,760 --> 01:00:10,200
Speaker 2: Schedule schedules about as favorable as you could want for

1156
01:00:10,280 --> 01:00:12,240
Speaker 2: being a big ten East. It's it's all gonna come

1157
01:00:12,240 --> 01:00:15,840
Speaker 2: down October. October will decide whether it's an eight and

1158
01:00:15,840 --> 01:00:17,360
Speaker 2: four season or a ten to two season.

1159
01:00:18,320 --> 01:00:21,440
Speaker 1: Where are you leaning right now? I'm leaning nine and

1160
01:00:21,480 --> 01:00:24,160
Speaker 1: three right in the middle, right smack dab in the middle.

1161
01:00:24,200 --> 01:00:29,240
Speaker 1: Those three losses come against Ohio State Michigan and Ohio

1162
01:00:29,280 --> 01:00:32,120
Speaker 1: State Michigan, and I think a dumb one. Oh No,

1163
01:00:32,560 --> 01:00:34,040
Speaker 1: like last year's Michigan State game.

1164
01:00:34,280 --> 01:00:35,920
Speaker 2: I think a dumb one. Now they're on the road

1165
01:00:35,960 --> 01:00:38,560
Speaker 2: at Michigan State this year. I don't necessarily think it's

1166
01:00:38,560 --> 01:00:41,800
Speaker 2: gonna be that one, but I just it's gonna be.

1167
01:00:41,920 --> 01:00:45,760
Speaker 1: It's gonna be off the radar. So that means Minnesota

1168
01:00:46,080 --> 01:00:48,800
Speaker 1: Perdue Iowa was on the radar. They've lost to Iowa.

1169
01:00:48,880 --> 01:00:52,680
Speaker 1: 'reing the raid. Actually, they look good against Iowa last year.

1170
01:00:52,720 --> 01:00:57,560
Speaker 1: But Pitt, no, my my beautiful four and eight darlinks No,

1171
01:00:57,720 --> 01:01:00,320
Speaker 1: I don't think Pitt that's a that's an ab game,

1172
01:01:00,360 --> 01:01:02,440
Speaker 1: by the way, that pit game. Okay, So gonna lose

1173
01:01:02,480 --> 01:01:05,800
Speaker 1: something weird. So you're thinking in the Indiana, Minnesota, Purdue

1174
01:01:05,840 --> 01:01:10,960
Speaker 1: Maryland phylum is where that's happening. Yes, Okay, what's your

1175
01:01:10,960 --> 01:01:17,080
Speaker 1: next question? Next question, Dan? Okay, let's talky about Minnesota. Ah,

1176
01:01:17,200 --> 01:01:18,439
Speaker 1: I thought you'd never ask.

1177
01:01:19,320 --> 01:01:26,320
Speaker 2: Minnesota has the Big Ten West's most experienced offense. They've

1178
01:01:26,360 --> 01:01:30,080
Speaker 2: got a light non conference schedule, as far as I

1179
01:01:30,080 --> 01:01:34,240
Speaker 2: can tell here, a relatively easy slate of crossover games.

1180
01:01:35,000 --> 01:01:38,760
Speaker 2: Can PJ Fleck and the Golden Gophers get to nine wins?

1181
01:01:38,800 --> 01:01:41,400
Speaker 1: Is that possible? So I'm gonna take exception with a

1182
01:01:41,400 --> 01:01:45,120
Speaker 1: couple of things you said. I think going to Fresno

1183
01:01:45,840 --> 01:01:48,240
Speaker 1: is difficult. They pulled that game out in the last

1184
01:01:48,280 --> 01:01:51,320
Speaker 1: second last year. I think playing Georgia Southern, who beat

1185
01:01:51,360 --> 01:01:55,600
Speaker 1: app State, my beloved Mountaineers of Boone, North Carolina, that's

1186
01:01:55,600 --> 01:01:59,120
Speaker 1: a big deal. They had a terrible situation with their

1187
01:01:59,200 --> 01:02:03,920
Speaker 1: quarterback last week, Shy Wurtz, and that's all resolved and

1188
01:02:04,240 --> 01:02:09,680
Speaker 1: good for him. But that's tricky. That's tricky for a

1189
01:02:09,720 --> 01:02:13,640
Speaker 1: team that has did definitely finish really nicely on defense

1190
01:02:13,720 --> 01:02:16,800
Speaker 1: last year, but it has a propensity against you know,

1191
01:02:17,320 --> 01:02:19,760
Speaker 1: some not so good teams to give up some yardage,

1192
01:02:19,880 --> 01:02:23,800
Speaker 1: So I think your question is fair. I think their

1193
01:02:23,840 --> 01:02:26,560
Speaker 1: absolute ceiling is probably eight and four right now, Okay,

1194
01:02:26,840 --> 01:02:32,480
Speaker 1: I have made peace with Tanner Morgan. I think he's fine.

1195
01:02:32,760 --> 01:02:36,080
Speaker 1: I just when you start talking about nine wins, we

1196
01:02:36,120 --> 01:02:39,880
Speaker 1: start getting into the combination of defense and quarterback, and

1197
01:02:41,000 --> 01:02:44,520
Speaker 1: I am not there with Minnesota yet. But I like

1198
01:02:44,560 --> 01:02:46,400
Speaker 1: that Rodney Smith is coming back and that they're gonna

1199
01:02:46,400 --> 01:02:49,080
Speaker 1: pair him with Mohammed Ibrahim, who looked obviously terrific in

1200
01:02:49,080 --> 01:02:53,560
Speaker 1: their bowl, just demolishing of Georgia Tech. So they're strong

1201
01:02:53,600 --> 01:02:55,960
Speaker 1: in the backfield. Tanner Morgan's probably gonna win this job

1202
01:02:55,960 --> 01:02:59,360
Speaker 1: over Zach Annexstad, which is very fun to say. Tyler

1203
01:02:59,400 --> 01:03:02,360
Speaker 1: Johnson and Bateman are very quietly one of the better

1204
01:03:02,560 --> 01:03:06,760
Speaker 1: wide receiver duos in the nation. Tyler Johnson, he's local,

1205
01:03:06,920 --> 01:03:09,560
Speaker 1: He's he's an all timer for Minnesota. Rashad Bateman, we

1206
01:03:09,600 --> 01:03:12,200
Speaker 1: actually talked about him going into his freshman year last

1207
01:03:12,240 --> 01:03:14,720
Speaker 1: year as being excited to see him a ton of

1208
01:03:14,800 --> 01:03:16,600
Speaker 1: experience on the line. As you sort of alluded to,

1209
01:03:16,680 --> 01:03:18,720
Speaker 1: they need to get better. They allowed a lot of sacks.

1210
01:03:18,760 --> 01:03:23,600
Speaker 1: The run game was pretty inconsistent, you know, Daniel Fatlle whatever,

1211
01:03:23,760 --> 01:03:26,080
Speaker 1: it's going to get a lot of attention. Sorry, was

1212
01:03:26,080 --> 01:03:29,000
Speaker 1: that dismissive. I didn't mean to be dismissive. Did you

1213
01:03:29,160 --> 01:03:32,920
Speaker 1: like that he's six nine, four hundred pounds. It's a

1214
01:03:32,920 --> 01:03:34,720
Speaker 1: fantasy thing, but we're actually I don't think it's an

1215
01:03:34,720 --> 01:03:37,760
Speaker 1: actual fantasy thing. Like his size is going to be

1216
01:03:37,840 --> 01:03:42,760
Speaker 1: mentioned eleven times, big fella. Yeah, he's large. He is large.

1217
01:03:43,720 --> 01:03:46,840
Speaker 1: He is like he's bigger than Jonathan Ogden. He is.

1218
01:03:47,240 --> 01:03:50,000
Speaker 1: He's big, and I think he's pretty good for being

1219
01:03:50,040 --> 01:03:54,520
Speaker 1: as inexperience as he is. Nine wins is pushing it

1220
01:03:54,560 --> 01:03:58,000
Speaker 1: though they are. They struggled a good deal on defense

1221
01:03:59,280 --> 01:04:02,240
Speaker 1: in the back end, and the big ten West should

1222
01:04:02,240 --> 01:04:04,560
Speaker 1: be able to throw someone we're getting into more into

1223
01:04:04,600 --> 01:04:07,600
Speaker 1: a couple more quarterbacks there. I should highlight in spotlight

1224
01:04:07,640 --> 01:04:09,680
Speaker 1: even though I said, you know, upfront, they're not that good.

1225
01:04:10,360 --> 01:04:13,680
Speaker 1: Carter Coughlin is that good. He is there like hybrid

1226
01:04:13,760 --> 01:04:17,520
Speaker 1: outside linebacker rush and he's all big ten caliber is

1227
01:04:17,760 --> 01:04:20,880
Speaker 1: he is mister Havoc for the Gophers. So they in

1228
01:04:21,000 --> 01:04:24,480
Speaker 1: spots like running back and receiver and you know this

1229
01:04:24,560 --> 01:04:28,520
Speaker 1: rush end, they're very interesting. But they need to put

1230
01:04:28,520 --> 01:04:31,120
Speaker 1: it together a little more often because it was. It

1231
01:04:31,160 --> 01:04:34,520
Speaker 1: was pretty uneven last year, and when you look at

1232
01:04:34,560 --> 01:04:38,080
Speaker 1: their schedule, they were only like competitive in two games.

1233
01:04:38,520 --> 01:04:42,080
Speaker 1: It was competitive in that they were relatively close near

1234
01:04:42,120 --> 01:04:43,920
Speaker 1: the end of the game. They were either separating themselves

1235
01:04:43,920 --> 01:04:47,520
Speaker 1: from teams or just getting demolished by teams. So there

1236
01:04:47,560 --> 01:04:50,200
Speaker 1: probably needs to be more consistently for four quarters at

1237
01:04:50,240 --> 01:04:52,439
Speaker 1: a time, and I think a lot of that comes

1238
01:04:52,480 --> 01:04:54,840
Speaker 1: down to turnovers. So still too many questions for me

1239
01:04:54,960 --> 01:04:57,960
Speaker 1: to get to nine wins, but the potential to take

1240
01:04:58,000 --> 01:05:00,960
Speaker 1: a nice step forward exists. The worst case is the

1241
01:05:01,000 --> 01:05:04,760
Speaker 1: defense progresses without a good, good line and the secondary

1242
01:05:04,800 --> 01:05:09,240
Speaker 1: stays pretty pretty leaky at five and seven, So I'm

1243
01:05:09,240 --> 01:05:10,600
Speaker 1: going to say there are a seven and five team

1244
01:05:10,640 --> 01:05:11,040
Speaker 1: this year.

1245
01:05:11,200 --> 01:05:14,120
Speaker 2: I'm a huge Taylor Johnson fan. He's so good, both

1246
01:05:14,120 --> 01:05:17,400
Speaker 2: of those guys. Huge fan of Tyler Johnson.

1247
01:05:17,960 --> 01:05:21,320
Speaker 1: But yeah, I was watching clips of Tanner Morgan because

1248
01:05:22,040 --> 01:05:25,040
Speaker 1: I honestly have not. You know, I don't spend June

1249
01:05:25,120 --> 01:05:28,320
Speaker 1: and July watching a lot of Minnesota football or Georgia

1250
01:05:28,360 --> 01:05:31,120
Speaker 1: Tech football or whoever football. I just don't. I like

1251
01:05:31,160 --> 01:05:33,440
Speaker 1: hanging out with Jody with an Eye and the solid baby.

1252
01:05:33,840 --> 01:05:38,040
Speaker 1: So I did a refresher on Tanner Morgan and man

1253
01:05:38,080 --> 01:05:41,400
Speaker 1: does he look he tries hard, He really goes for it.

1254
01:05:42,360 --> 01:05:44,680
Speaker 1: And I like that there's a lot of effort there,

1255
01:05:45,080 --> 01:05:48,600
Speaker 1: but that it's it's not for me a lot effort

1256
01:05:49,560 --> 01:05:53,800
Speaker 1: as a team competing for the divisions. I'm I need more.

1257
01:05:54,040 --> 01:05:55,800
Speaker 1: I just need a little bit more from the ghosts.

1258
01:05:55,880 --> 01:05:58,919
Speaker 1: All right, Dan, give me give me a question here,

1259
01:05:59,400 --> 01:06:03,400
Speaker 1: you know what, Let's talk about your precious Indiana. They

1260
01:06:03,640 --> 01:06:06,280
Speaker 1: they get better, Uh, let's do it. They get better

1261
01:06:06,320 --> 01:06:09,680
Speaker 1: on offense last year with a key injury at quarterback

1262
01:06:09,800 --> 01:06:11,959
Speaker 1: and they still managed to have a nice season yep.

1263
01:06:13,440 --> 01:06:16,400
Speaker 1: But took a pretty significant step back on defense, which

1264
01:06:16,400 --> 01:06:19,680
Speaker 1: seems uncharacteristic from what we've seen of Tom Allen. When

1265
01:06:19,720 --> 01:06:22,880
Speaker 1: he goes places, their defenses improve and it did in

1266
01:06:22,960 --> 01:06:25,080
Speaker 1: Indiana when he was a coordinator, but takes a step

1267
01:06:25,120 --> 01:06:27,800
Speaker 1: back last year as he assumes the head coaching role.

1268
01:06:28,400 --> 01:06:32,400
Speaker 1: Is it a course correction thing to you? You know?

1269
01:06:32,520 --> 01:06:35,240
Speaker 1: Is it getting to just be okay? On defense? How

1270
01:06:35,240 --> 01:06:37,680
Speaker 1: far away are they from getting back to a bowl?

1271
01:06:38,880 --> 01:06:42,959
Speaker 2: Well, okay, two different questions, I'll start with. I'll start

1272
01:06:42,960 --> 01:06:45,680
Speaker 2: with the bowl question here. Yeah, because you know, I'm

1273
01:06:45,720 --> 01:06:51,480
Speaker 2: excited about Indiana always are not always last couple of years,

1274
01:06:51,520 --> 01:06:54,560
Speaker 2: I've been excited about Indiana. Yeah, I don't mean to

1275
01:06:54,600 --> 01:06:58,280
Speaker 2: say I'm like nine and three excited. I'm not even

1276
01:06:58,320 --> 01:07:00,800
Speaker 2: sure I meet eight and four. But they do have

1277
01:07:00,840 --> 01:07:03,400
Speaker 2: seven guys back on each side of the ball. Yeah,

1278
01:07:03,440 --> 01:07:05,520
Speaker 2: and I think there's going to be enough feistiness on

1279
01:07:05,560 --> 01:07:09,520
Speaker 2: the offensive side to win six or seven games and

1280
01:07:09,600 --> 01:07:12,000
Speaker 2: maybe scare the crap out of Ohio State in Week three.

1281
01:07:12,080 --> 01:07:13,200
Speaker 2: That's kind of my big prediction.

1282
01:07:13,640 --> 01:07:16,760
Speaker 1: I just remember you saying things about Stevie Scott that

1283
01:07:16,880 --> 01:07:20,200
Speaker 1: made me think, is solid wife Kate in a good

1284
01:07:20,200 --> 01:07:26,040
Speaker 1: place with you? Do you have wandering eyes towards Bloomington.

1285
01:07:26,400 --> 01:07:29,920
Speaker 2: Well, I love Stevie Scott, but they're replacing three of

1286
01:07:30,040 --> 01:07:33,280
Speaker 2: five starters up front, and that will have a direct

1287
01:07:33,280 --> 01:07:37,360
Speaker 2: impact on one. Steven Scott Okay, another big kid, a

1288
01:07:37,360 --> 01:07:40,280
Speaker 2: lot of promise for Indiana. Rushed over eleven hundred yards,

1289
01:07:40,680 --> 01:07:43,120
Speaker 2: had ten touchdowns last year as a freshman. He was

1290
01:07:43,160 --> 01:07:46,040
Speaker 2: on my dude watch list. I like him, but I've

1291
01:07:46,040 --> 01:07:49,600
Speaker 2: got questions about that line. I'm real curious to see

1292
01:07:50,400 --> 01:07:53,960
Speaker 2: what happens just with the offense as a whole. Because

1293
01:07:54,000 --> 01:07:57,120
Speaker 2: they hired Caitlin de Borr away from Fresno to come

1294
01:07:57,120 --> 01:07:59,800
Speaker 2: in and run the offense. Now, this is already assystem

1295
01:07:59,840 --> 01:08:02,840
Speaker 2: that through a lot, but now you bring de bor

1296
01:08:02,960 --> 01:08:06,840
Speaker 2: In from Fresno, and Fresno threw an awful lot.

1297
01:08:07,800 --> 01:08:09,240
Speaker 1: He's on the record talking.

1298
01:08:09,040 --> 01:08:11,120
Speaker 2: About how they want to get more explosive, how that's

1299
01:08:11,160 --> 01:08:14,880
Speaker 2: a priority for this coming season. I don't know if

1300
01:08:14,880 --> 01:08:16,519
Speaker 2: it's Peyton Ramsey or if it's going to be someone

1301
01:08:16,560 --> 01:08:19,479
Speaker 2: else at quarterback, but they just couldn't throw deep and

1302
01:08:19,520 --> 01:08:21,360
Speaker 2: they need to get better in this area, which is

1303
01:08:21,400 --> 01:08:24,360
Speaker 2: part of the reason why I reiterate I'm high on

1304
01:08:24,439 --> 01:08:26,800
Speaker 2: Nick Westbrook. I think he's in line for a big year.

1305
01:08:26,920 --> 01:08:30,719
Speaker 2: Led the team in targets a year ago. That being said,

1306
01:08:30,920 --> 01:08:33,400
Speaker 2: you're right in saying that rushing defense has been an

1307
01:08:33,439 --> 01:08:37,640
Speaker 2: issue not just last year, really the last decade. And

1308
01:08:37,760 --> 01:08:40,080
Speaker 2: I don't know the answer to the question on that front.

1309
01:08:40,800 --> 01:08:44,400
Speaker 2: I don't know how angry. I don't know what it takes,

1310
01:08:44,640 --> 01:08:49,479
Speaker 2: honestly to sort that out. They've got to make a tweak,

1311
01:08:49,920 --> 01:08:51,479
Speaker 2: They've just got to get better. I don't have an

1312
01:08:51,520 --> 01:08:55,200
Speaker 2: answer for you. I don't know, because it's continually been

1313
01:08:55,240 --> 01:08:58,760
Speaker 2: an issue for them. The schedule does not present as

1314
01:08:58,800 --> 01:09:01,880
Speaker 2: a murderer's row. But they're in the East, so they've

1315
01:09:01,880 --> 01:09:05,360
Speaker 2: already got those four games that look like easy losses,

1316
01:09:05,360 --> 01:09:07,519
Speaker 2: both of the Michigan schools, Ohio State, and Penn State.

1317
01:09:08,439 --> 01:09:11,840
Speaker 2: They've also got a road game at Nebraska, road game

1318
01:09:11,880 --> 01:09:15,000
Speaker 2: at Purdue. They've got a home game against Northwestern. From

1319
01:09:15,000 --> 01:09:21,160
Speaker 2: the West. They get Michigan at home, which is my

1320
01:09:21,200 --> 01:09:22,960
Speaker 2: favorite let down look ahead spot of the year. You

1321
01:09:22,960 --> 01:09:27,040
Speaker 2: don't just go to blooming Michigan coming off a home

1322
01:09:27,040 --> 01:09:31,040
Speaker 2: game against State a week before a home game against

1323
01:09:31,080 --> 01:09:34,799
Speaker 2: Ohio State. They go to Bloomington. That's my favorite letdown

1324
01:09:34,800 --> 01:09:35,960
Speaker 2: look ahead spot.

1325
01:09:36,280 --> 01:09:36,840
Speaker 1: Indiana.

1326
01:09:36,880 --> 01:09:39,720
Speaker 2: I'm high in Indiana because I think it could go

1327
01:09:39,800 --> 01:09:42,760
Speaker 2: a bunch of different directions. I like the hire of

1328
01:09:42,800 --> 01:09:46,240
Speaker 2: the Boor away from Fresno. I like the young talent

1329
01:09:46,280 --> 01:09:49,240
Speaker 2: on this team. Have no idea what happens along the line,

1330
01:09:49,479 --> 01:09:53,599
Speaker 2: or at quarterback or on defense. Your guess is as

1331
01:09:53,640 --> 01:09:58,519
Speaker 2: good as mine. I'm just being honest here. I honestly

1332
01:09:58,520 --> 01:10:01,160
Speaker 2: don't know. I know what's going on. I don't know

1333
01:10:01,160 --> 01:10:01,640
Speaker 2: what's going to.

1334
01:10:01,640 --> 01:10:06,560
Speaker 1: Happen quick thing I didn't realize Kaylan de Boor replaced

1335
01:10:06,640 --> 01:10:10,719
Speaker 1: Mike de Board. I believe that's right. Yes, okay, great,

1336
01:10:10,800 --> 01:10:13,120
Speaker 1: I like how they didn't stray too far. Mike de

1337
01:10:13,240 --> 01:10:18,840
Speaker 1: Board retires, but an opportunity arose in January of this

1338
01:10:18,960 --> 01:10:24,439
Speaker 1: year when the San Diego Fleet of the AAF lost

1339
01:10:24,439 --> 01:10:32,479
Speaker 1: their offensive coordinator John Kittna, who is now who's now

1340
01:10:32,479 --> 01:10:37,639
Speaker 1: the quarterbacks coach of the Dallas Cowboys. To take his place,

1341
01:10:37,680 --> 01:10:40,439
Speaker 1: and I'm quoting Wikipedia here take his place, the Fleet

1342
01:10:40,520 --> 01:10:43,759
Speaker 1: hired Mike de Boord, reuniting him with San Diego Fleet

1343
01:10:43,800 --> 01:10:45,960
Speaker 1: head coach Mike Martz.

1344
01:10:47,160 --> 01:10:49,360
Speaker 2: I didn't know any of this. I'm glad to have

1345
01:10:49,439 --> 01:10:51,920
Speaker 2: warned it on our show. Does this mean that Kaylin

1346
01:10:52,000 --> 01:10:54,840
Speaker 2: de Boor is the present tense of Mike de Boord?

1347
01:10:56,439 --> 01:11:01,200
Speaker 1: Yes, which, okay, so Kaylan de Boor is the present

1348
01:11:01,320 --> 01:11:05,280
Speaker 1: tense of Mike to board, the future tents will be

1349
01:11:05,360 --> 01:11:11,960
Speaker 1: somebody named Will de Boor. I got to ask my mom.

1350
01:11:12,040 --> 01:11:15,720
Speaker 1: She's she's a linguistics expert, but yeah, I think I

1351
01:11:15,760 --> 01:11:18,680
Speaker 1: think that's right. We have to learn how to conjugate

1352
01:11:19,400 --> 01:11:24,400
Speaker 1: debor are if we're ever going to succeed in accurately

1353
01:11:24,400 --> 01:11:29,320
Speaker 1: breaking down They know they did they in all fairness,

1354
01:11:29,439 --> 01:11:31,639
Speaker 1: they did get better on offense. Peyton Ramsey I think

1355
01:11:31,760 --> 01:11:33,360
Speaker 1: was fine last year.

1356
01:11:33,439 --> 01:11:35,639
Speaker 2: Didn't throw deep, but he was fine. Other one deep

1357
01:11:35,640 --> 01:11:41,160
Speaker 2: he was fine. They could be entertaining, and they've got

1358
01:11:41,200 --> 01:11:44,839
Speaker 2: feistiness on offense. Yeah, you said, he said that somebody

1359
01:11:44,960 --> 01:11:48,240
Speaker 2: tries real hard. Ted or Morgan tries very hard. I'm

1360
01:11:48,280 --> 01:11:50,439
Speaker 2: telling you. You watched clips of him. You're like man

1361
01:11:51,520 --> 01:11:56,240
Speaker 2: saying my compliment was a little bit more upbeat than

1362
01:11:56,240 --> 01:11:59,919
Speaker 2: that one. Okay, he does try, he does, you're a feutable.

1363
01:12:00,280 --> 01:12:05,519
Speaker 2: Let's talk about another quarterback. Okay, Hunter Johnson making some waves.

1364
01:12:05,560 --> 01:12:09,439
Speaker 2: He was, yeah, you know, all world everything. Quarterbacks signed

1365
01:12:09,479 --> 01:12:14,679
Speaker 2: with Clemson. I think wisely got out when Trevor Lawrence

1366
01:12:14,720 --> 01:12:17,639
Speaker 2: came to town because he wasn't playing over him. Now

1367
01:12:17,680 --> 01:12:20,200
Speaker 2: he ends up at Northwestern, and this is a big

1368
01:12:20,240 --> 01:12:22,920
Speaker 2: deal for Northwestern. It's been a long time since they

1369
01:12:22,960 --> 01:12:26,280
Speaker 2: had a guy of this caliber playing quarterback. Haven't seen him,

1370
01:12:26,320 --> 01:12:29,120
Speaker 2: mind you, but at least on paper looks the part

1371
01:12:29,640 --> 01:12:31,320
Speaker 2: seemingly is going to be as bout as good at

1372
01:12:31,439 --> 01:12:34,880
Speaker 2: quarterback as they've ever had there. Does he elevate Do

1373
01:12:34,960 --> 01:12:38,880
Speaker 2: you expect him to elevate the Northwestern offense in any

1374
01:12:38,960 --> 01:12:43,480
Speaker 2: kind of meaningful way? And at this juncture in mid August.

1375
01:12:44,040 --> 01:12:47,320
Speaker 2: Do we have any way of being confident about whatever

1376
01:12:47,360 --> 01:12:48,240
Speaker 2: you're about to say.

1377
01:12:49,240 --> 01:12:53,120
Speaker 1: So what I'm about to try to convey is the

1378
01:12:53,160 --> 01:12:56,280
Speaker 1: word no with a question mark at the end, which

1379
01:12:56,320 --> 01:13:01,680
Speaker 1: is a terrible answer to your question. No. So the

1380
01:13:01,760 --> 01:13:06,000
Speaker 1: problem with Northwestern's offense hasn't been because they haven't had

1381
01:13:06,040 --> 01:13:09,880
Speaker 1: talent talented quarterbacks, because it seems like, even though they

1382
01:13:09,880 --> 01:13:12,280
Speaker 1: don't really play all that often, that there's interest from

1383
01:13:12,280 --> 01:13:17,920
Speaker 1: the NFL guys like Trevor Simeon that we're fine. But

1384
01:13:18,120 --> 01:13:20,960
Speaker 1: they've had the same offensive coordinator for going on at

1385
01:13:21,040 --> 01:13:25,360
Speaker 1: least a decade, Mike McCall. So this is D analytics in

1386
01:13:25,400 --> 01:13:27,880
Speaker 1: that it's not D analytics. This is from our friend

1387
01:13:27,920 --> 01:13:30,880
Speaker 1: Brian Frimo, who runs the FBI. So these are the

1388
01:13:30,960 --> 01:13:33,800
Speaker 1: offensive points per drive, which is something I appreciate, and

1389
01:13:33,960 --> 01:13:37,280
Speaker 1: there's no garbage time. Here are the last the last

1390
01:13:37,320 --> 01:13:41,840
Speaker 1: decade or so of Northwestern's offensive football. So doesn't matter

1391
01:13:41,880 --> 01:13:43,600
Speaker 1: how quickly or how slowly you play, it's just what

1392
01:13:43,640 --> 01:13:47,439
Speaker 1: you do per drive. Ninety ninth, seventieth, sixty seventh, one

1393
01:13:47,479 --> 01:13:51,439
Speaker 1: hundred and seventeenth, one hundred and third, eighty second, fifty seventh,

1394
01:13:51,439 --> 01:13:54,439
Speaker 1: and twenty twelve shoutout Dan Person Cane Coulter. I believe

1395
01:13:54,479 --> 01:13:59,320
Speaker 1: that was like the twenty eighth and twenty eleven. Hell yeah,

1396
01:13:59,360 --> 01:14:06,559
Speaker 1: but then seven sixty seven sixty second. So Northwestern fielding

1397
01:14:06,640 --> 01:14:12,519
Speaker 1: average offenses is pretty rare. And so maybe it happens

1398
01:14:12,520 --> 01:14:15,599
Speaker 1: with Hunter Johnson and maybe you know, with Isaiah Bowser

1399
01:14:15,680 --> 01:14:19,800
Speaker 1: next to him. This was a pretty terrible rushing team

1400
01:14:19,880 --> 01:14:23,559
Speaker 1: last year. They replaced a lot along the offensive line.

1401
01:14:24,360 --> 01:14:27,600
Speaker 1: Not a great combination to me. They kind of have

1402
01:14:27,680 --> 01:14:32,559
Speaker 1: an interesting receiver in Bennett's Gronic It's been a mainstay there. PJ.

1403
01:14:32,640 --> 01:14:36,600
Speaker 1: Flynn's gone. They've got good names, but it's not a

1404
01:14:36,600 --> 01:14:42,840
Speaker 1: lot of proven, interesting, fun highlighting names. I just it's

1405
01:14:42,840 --> 01:14:45,240
Speaker 1: a pretty big question up front. It's a new offensive

1406
01:14:45,240 --> 01:14:48,599
Speaker 1: line coach. They need a pretty giant jump up front there.

1407
01:14:48,960 --> 01:14:52,920
Speaker 1: The good news for Hunter Johnson is I think Ali upwise,

1408
01:14:52,960 --> 01:14:55,679
Speaker 1: the defense will put the offense again in a pretty

1409
01:14:55,680 --> 01:14:59,480
Speaker 1: good position field, position wise, turnovers wise, whatever. Joe Gaziano's

1410
01:14:59,600 --> 01:15:02,240
Speaker 1: he's a are upfront. She's got decent pieces around him.

1411
01:15:02,920 --> 01:15:05,080
Speaker 1: Patti Fisher I mentioned on the Dude episode, he's all

1412
01:15:05,120 --> 01:15:08,479
Speaker 1: over the place. Two D's right, two d's Patty Fisher,

1413
01:15:09,080 --> 01:15:12,240
Speaker 1: the secondary's experience, they should be fine. You know, we've

1414
01:15:12,280 --> 01:15:14,880
Speaker 1: gotten to the point where I think benefit of the

1415
01:15:14,920 --> 01:15:18,280
Speaker 1: doubt is probably too strong a phrase with the Northwestern defense,

1416
01:15:18,960 --> 01:15:21,320
Speaker 1: but you can count on them for being, you know,

1417
01:15:21,680 --> 01:15:24,760
Speaker 1: a probably top five unit in the Big Ten, if

1418
01:15:24,800 --> 01:15:29,479
Speaker 1: not better. So schedule, there's a rough stretch on this schedule,

1419
01:15:29,600 --> 01:15:33,120
Speaker 1: and they open at Stanford week one. It's the stretches

1420
01:15:33,439 --> 01:15:35,760
Speaker 1: Michigan State at Wisconsin at Nebraska.

1421
01:15:37,560 --> 01:15:37,720
Speaker 2: Is it?

1422
01:15:37,800 --> 01:15:39,599
Speaker 1: I have BYU here, but it might be a bye.

1423
01:15:39,640 --> 01:15:42,800
Speaker 1: I don't believe it's b YU. It may just be

1424
01:15:42,840 --> 01:15:47,160
Speaker 1: a typo Ohio State, Iowa. That's a rough stretch. That

1425
01:15:47,200 --> 01:15:50,200
Speaker 1: is a that is a not super fun bit of

1426
01:15:50,200 --> 01:15:54,840
Speaker 1: football for for Northwestern, But year after year they get

1427
01:15:54,960 --> 01:15:58,240
Speaker 1: pretty good quarterback play and a disappointing offense and a

1428
01:15:58,280 --> 01:16:01,760
Speaker 1: good defense. So if Hunter Johnson's very good, if the

1429
01:16:01,800 --> 01:16:06,200
Speaker 1: offense has its moments behind, a better line gets to okay,

1430
01:16:06,280 --> 01:16:08,639
Speaker 1: they have the sixty fourth best offense in the country

1431
01:16:08,760 --> 01:16:12,840
Speaker 1: or something going ten to two, they just are. If

1432
01:16:12,920 --> 01:16:16,880
Speaker 1: Hunter Johnson is just okay, the line is still in

1433
01:16:16,920 --> 01:16:19,840
Speaker 1: the eh, the secondary's hit or miss. They're going seven

1434
01:16:19,840 --> 01:16:22,639
Speaker 1: and five, so I haven't met eight or nine wins.

1435
01:16:23,040 --> 01:16:24,800
Speaker 1: So that's how I feel. Do you have any Northwestern

1436
01:16:24,800 --> 01:16:27,880
Speaker 1: thoughts Hunter Johnson thoughts? I've seen him play a little bit.

1437
01:16:27,880 --> 01:16:30,719
Speaker 1: He hasn't really played meaningful snaps. He hasn't played meaningful snaps.

1438
01:16:30,720 --> 01:16:32,840
Speaker 1: That's why I asked the question. I honestly don't know,

1439
01:16:33,120 --> 01:16:36,000
Speaker 1: but I think it's exciting. Believe it or not, we

1440
01:16:36,000 --> 01:16:38,080
Speaker 1: do have a ton of Northwestern fans that listen to

1441
01:16:38,080 --> 01:16:39,799
Speaker 1: this show. Yeah, and.

1442
01:16:41,280 --> 01:16:44,439
Speaker 2: It's just exciting to have a high level, high level

1443
01:16:44,439 --> 01:16:46,519
Speaker 2: prospects such as Hunter Johnson playing quarterback.

1444
01:16:46,600 --> 01:16:48,960
Speaker 1: I watched a lot of Northwestern football a few years

1445
01:16:48,960 --> 01:16:52,200
Speaker 1: ago with our pale Roger Sherman. Yeah, and they've always

1446
01:16:52,240 --> 01:16:55,960
Speaker 1: been pretty good. And despite that, watching with Roger was

1447
01:16:56,000 --> 01:16:59,320
Speaker 1: a lot of moments of like watching him sing I

1448
01:16:59,520 --> 01:17:03,280
Speaker 1: hate everything, I hate everything to like the tune of

1449
01:17:03,320 --> 01:17:08,240
Speaker 1: Super Mario two. So I, for his sake, hope that

1450
01:17:08,320 --> 01:17:10,559
Speaker 1: this is the year that Hunter Johnson is that talent.

1451
01:17:10,560 --> 01:17:13,680
Speaker 1: We're like, oh Man, Northwestern's offense is dealing. Do it

1452
01:17:13,720 --> 01:17:16,320
Speaker 1: for Roger, Do it for Rogers, A good dude, do

1453
01:17:16,360 --> 01:17:21,000
Speaker 1: it for Roger. Yeah. Okay, I'm let me ask you

1454
01:17:21,000 --> 01:17:24,719
Speaker 1: about Indiana again. Just let's go back to Bloomington. Let's

1455
01:17:24,760 --> 01:17:27,760
Speaker 1: do it. Okay, who do we have left here? We

1456
01:17:27,800 --> 01:17:32,759
Speaker 1: got Maryland and Rutgers. Okay, I'm pretty down on Maryland. Okay,

1457
01:17:33,320 --> 01:17:37,280
Speaker 1: I I don't know if you are. What is a

1458
01:17:37,640 --> 01:17:40,240
Speaker 1: even five wins? To me? Seems kind of like a stretch.

1459
01:17:40,640 --> 01:17:42,519
Speaker 1: I know they get Josh Jackson, but what does a

1460
01:17:42,560 --> 01:17:46,160
Speaker 1: five five plus win Maryland team look like in twenty nineteen?

1461
01:17:46,200 --> 01:17:46,439
Speaker 1: All right?

1462
01:17:46,439 --> 01:17:49,799
Speaker 2: They were five and seven last year and they decided

1463
01:17:49,840 --> 01:17:53,040
Speaker 2: to go a different direction at head football coach. Brought

1464
01:17:53,040 --> 01:17:56,200
Speaker 2: in Mike Loxley. He's from the area, came over from Alabama,

1465
01:17:57,320 --> 01:18:02,320
Speaker 2: knows the area well, which is a great fantasy fantasy thing,

1466
01:18:03,080 --> 01:18:07,720
Speaker 2: great fantas knows the area well. You're gonna hear it

1467
01:18:07,800 --> 01:18:11,519
Speaker 2: time and again. Here is the problem that I see

1468
01:18:11,520 --> 01:18:16,679
Speaker 2: from Maryland. I'll start with the schedule. Before November. They've

1469
01:18:16,680 --> 01:18:22,760
Speaker 2: got Howard Syracuse, tough game at Temple, Penn State, tough

1470
01:18:22,760 --> 01:18:28,760
Speaker 2: game at Rutgers, at Purdue Indiana and Minnesota. Now that

1471
01:18:28,800 --> 01:18:32,800
Speaker 2: doesn't strike me as a cakewalk, but it is supremely

1472
01:18:32,840 --> 01:18:37,559
Speaker 2: easier than they're November, where they've got Michigan at Ohio

1473
01:18:37,600 --> 01:18:42,439
Speaker 2: State home against Nebraska and at Michigan State. It's very

1474
01:18:42,479 --> 01:18:43,760
Speaker 2: possible they lose all four.

1475
01:18:43,720 --> 01:18:44,560
Speaker 1: Of those games.

1476
01:18:44,960 --> 01:18:47,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, they lose all four of those games, and that

1477
01:18:47,720 --> 01:18:54,720
Speaker 2: means they got to be QS, Rutgers, Perdue, Indiana, Minnesota. Like,

1478
01:18:55,040 --> 01:18:57,880
Speaker 2: there's just not a lot of wiggle room there, and

1479
01:18:58,920 --> 01:19:02,040
Speaker 2: I'm not sure how it happens, if it happens. I

1480
01:19:02,240 --> 01:19:07,360
Speaker 2: like Mike Loxley. I like the fact that he's got

1481
01:19:07,400 --> 01:19:09,479
Speaker 2: a passion for coaching in this area.

1482
01:19:10,200 --> 01:19:13,840
Speaker 1: I do you fell into the trap? I do? I

1483
01:19:13,920 --> 01:19:14,759
Speaker 1: like it? Yeah.

1484
01:19:15,160 --> 01:19:18,080
Speaker 2: I like that he brings Josh Jackson over from Virginia Tech.

1485
01:19:18,280 --> 01:19:20,479
Speaker 2: He's most likely going to be the starter. I like

1486
01:19:20,560 --> 01:19:23,320
Speaker 2: Anthony McFarlane. We talked about him on the Dude watch List.

1487
01:19:23,439 --> 01:19:27,200
Speaker 2: A great freshman campaign. But the wide outs are really young.

1488
01:19:27,800 --> 01:19:32,000
Speaker 2: They're all sophomores or red shirt sophomores, which is crazy.

1489
01:19:32,920 --> 01:19:36,679
Speaker 2: The offensive line has some experience, but not a lot

1490
01:19:36,680 --> 01:19:40,960
Speaker 2: of depth, and the defense last year couldn't generate any pressure.

1491
01:19:41,800 --> 01:19:44,160
Speaker 2: Now they get a big booth. Shaq Smith is transferring

1492
01:19:44,200 --> 01:19:48,559
Speaker 2: over from Clemson, which opened some eyes, but otherwise they

1493
01:19:48,680 --> 01:19:51,559
Speaker 2: just they got a lot to figure out here, and

1494
01:19:52,840 --> 01:19:56,920
Speaker 2: I don't know how they get to five wins. I

1495
01:19:56,920 --> 01:19:58,920
Speaker 2: could see a step back I could see a foreign eight.

1496
01:19:58,920 --> 01:20:00,599
Speaker 2: I could see even if three and nine.

1497
01:20:01,360 --> 01:20:04,200
Speaker 1: What if Mike Locksley makes it super clear how much

1498
01:20:04,240 --> 01:20:07,880
Speaker 1: he likes coaching the area, because that was the reason

1499
01:20:07,960 --> 01:20:11,759
Speaker 1: you gave for why Maryland is something to be excited

1500
01:20:11,760 --> 01:20:14,559
Speaker 1: about long term. Yeah, I think we're on the same

1501
01:20:14,640 --> 01:20:15,200
Speaker 1: but look.

1502
01:20:15,040 --> 01:20:19,360
Speaker 2: But okay, longer term, the area is rich with talent.

1503
01:20:19,560 --> 01:20:21,960
Speaker 2: It's always it's pretty good players there. Yeah, and I

1504
01:20:22,000 --> 01:20:24,320
Speaker 2: remember we made the joke about Randy Etzel when Randy

1505
01:20:24,320 --> 01:20:27,200
Speaker 2: Etzel came down and took his dream job. That was

1506
01:20:27,240 --> 01:20:29,080
Speaker 2: one of the things that he highlighted. He wanted to

1507
01:20:29,120 --> 01:20:32,240
Speaker 2: try and keep those kids close to home, right. I

1508
01:20:32,280 --> 01:20:34,240
Speaker 2: don't know if they've been all that successful doing that.

1509
01:20:34,320 --> 01:20:36,760
Speaker 2: Mike Loxley is a good recruiter and has been for

1510
01:20:36,800 --> 01:20:38,880
Speaker 2: a while. He knows the area. He's got these pipelines.

1511
01:20:39,280 --> 01:20:42,000
Speaker 2: Hopefully that can bear some fruit for the Terrapins.

1512
01:20:42,560 --> 01:20:46,760
Speaker 1: Okay, do you have those little headlines that are on

1513
01:20:46,800 --> 01:20:50,320
Speaker 1: the bottom of every website, like the sponsored headlines, and

1514
01:20:50,360 --> 01:20:54,280
Speaker 1: it's like these three things in Tacos may kill you. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

1515
01:20:54,360 --> 01:20:56,599
Speaker 1: I'm looking at the Maryland schedule right now, and this

1516
01:20:56,640 --> 01:21:00,720
Speaker 1: probably has nothing to do with Maryland football. But I

1517
01:21:00,800 --> 01:21:04,280
Speaker 1: have Steve Miller sells Island Compound for less than half

1518
01:21:04,320 --> 01:21:08,480
Speaker 1: the original asking price. The early signs of type two diabetes,

1519
01:21:08,520 --> 01:21:10,559
Speaker 1: and it's a picture of an older hand feeling an

1520
01:21:10,560 --> 01:21:14,200
Speaker 1: older foot. I have no show socks, and I have

1521
01:21:14,439 --> 01:21:18,240
Speaker 1: cowboy boots. Are taking over New York parentheses. Here's why

1522
01:21:18,400 --> 01:21:23,439
Speaker 1: is that true? These are all not to my not

1523
01:21:23,520 --> 01:21:25,960
Speaker 1: to my eyes. But you know I don't see everything.

1524
01:21:26,720 --> 01:21:28,880
Speaker 1: I have no idea what I've clicked to get to

1525
01:21:28,920 --> 01:21:32,040
Speaker 1: this point. I enjoy Steve Miller. I'm not worried about

1526
01:21:32,080 --> 01:21:35,679
Speaker 1: type two diabetes. I do wear socks. I don't wear boots.

1527
01:21:37,120 --> 01:21:40,679
Speaker 1: Maryland football and Marylynd football. Okay, where are we going next?

1528
01:21:40,760 --> 01:21:43,679
Speaker 1: The other? Oh, let's just do Rutgers. Let's do Rutgers. Okay,

1529
01:21:44,840 --> 01:21:49,000
Speaker 1: my question about Rutgers. I wrote this down because I'm

1530
01:21:49,040 --> 01:21:52,559
Speaker 1: very serious about this preview. To quote the immortal Shaka

1531
01:21:52,640 --> 01:21:58,760
Speaker 1: Khan Chocka Cohn. Great, damn me. Something good about Rutgers.

1532
01:22:00,439 --> 01:22:01,360
Speaker 1: About positivity.

1533
01:22:01,840 --> 01:22:07,040
Speaker 2: I like Raheem Black share Yeah at running back and

1534
01:22:07,439 --> 01:22:10,040
Speaker 2: another guy named Isaiah whose last name I have no

1535
01:22:10,080 --> 01:22:16,960
Speaker 2: idea how to pronounce. Start at the p Accheco, Pachecko,

1536
01:22:17,360 --> 01:22:21,080
Speaker 2: Pachico Pashko, and we can just look it up on YouTube.

1537
01:22:21,600 --> 01:22:23,160
Speaker 1: I could, but I didn't.

1538
01:22:23,880 --> 01:22:25,560
Speaker 2: My point here is that if there's going to be

1539
01:22:25,600 --> 01:22:29,920
Speaker 2: a bright spot on the offense, it's probably the ground attack.

1540
01:22:30,920 --> 01:22:33,880
Speaker 2: Probably the ground attack. They feel actually pretty good about

1541
01:22:33,880 --> 01:22:37,479
Speaker 2: it now. They were one and eleven last year, and

1542
01:22:37,560 --> 01:22:39,879
Speaker 2: they closed out this year with Ohio State and Michigan

1543
01:22:39,960 --> 01:22:44,200
Speaker 2: State in Piscataway, followed by a road trip to Penn State.

1544
01:22:45,479 --> 01:22:47,880
Speaker 2: It looks like another one and eleven or two and

1545
01:22:47,960 --> 01:22:50,640
Speaker 2: ten year to me because they gave up thirty one

1546
01:22:50,680 --> 01:22:53,120
Speaker 2: points per game on defense last year and I just

1547
01:22:53,160 --> 01:22:55,040
Speaker 2: don't see it improving all that much. But if we're

1548
01:22:55,040 --> 01:22:59,160
Speaker 2: going to find something to be happy or excited about,

1549
01:22:59,840 --> 01:23:01,200
Speaker 2: I think the ground game should be.

1550
01:23:01,240 --> 01:23:01,599
Speaker 1: Okay.

1551
01:23:02,400 --> 01:23:05,439
Speaker 2: I am curious to see what happens with my boy

1552
01:23:05,520 --> 01:23:09,680
Speaker 2: King Arthur Sikowski, because the passing game last year was

1553
01:23:09,680 --> 01:23:12,559
Speaker 2: a disaster. He threw eighteen picks that was the most

1554
01:23:12,720 --> 01:23:16,519
Speaker 2: in the nation. Rutgers as a whole was a turnover machine.

1555
01:23:16,960 --> 01:23:22,120
Speaker 2: They were negative fourteen and turnover margins, and the line

1556
01:23:22,160 --> 01:23:25,880
Speaker 2: just they couldn't pass protect receivers couldn't get open when

1557
01:23:25,920 --> 01:23:29,320
Speaker 2: they were open. They were dropping passes. Just a lot

1558
01:23:29,360 --> 01:23:31,920
Speaker 2: of slow decision making there in the passing games. So

1559
01:23:32,240 --> 01:23:35,040
Speaker 2: passing game needs to improve. Running game is.

1560
01:23:36,840 --> 01:23:40,040
Speaker 1: Something something to not be too down on.

1561
01:23:40,840 --> 01:23:46,799
Speaker 2: Okay, fair enough, let me go to Illinois, the last

1562
01:23:46,880 --> 01:23:54,040
Speaker 2: Big Ten team. Yeah, on your side here, Okay. They

1563
01:23:54,080 --> 01:23:59,679
Speaker 2: extended Lovey Smith for two additional years despite winning nine

1564
01:23:59,720 --> 01:24:01,200
Speaker 2: games in his first three seasons.

1565
01:24:01,680 --> 01:24:05,519
Speaker 1: M h. But they've got a lot of I guess

1566
01:24:05,600 --> 01:24:11,120
Speaker 1: returning production coming back or returners coming back. Ya give

1567
01:24:11,160 --> 01:24:11,639
Speaker 1: me your.

1568
01:24:11,560 --> 01:24:14,960
Speaker 2: Drive to six projection this year? Is the Drive to

1569
01:24:15,080 --> 01:24:20,400
Speaker 2: six something that we can reinstall as part of our

1570
01:24:20,400 --> 01:24:23,120
Speaker 2: weekly shows.

1571
01:24:23,520 --> 01:24:26,800
Speaker 1: I'm not thinking so, I'm not thinking so. And it's

1572
01:24:26,880 --> 01:24:30,000
Speaker 1: they don't have a quarterback. It's Brandon Peters and interestingly enough,

1573
01:24:30,040 --> 01:24:35,200
Speaker 1: Isaiah Williams, who was quarterback, huge quarterback recruit but listed

1574
01:24:35,200 --> 01:24:37,080
Speaker 1: as sort of an athlete and the same name as

1575
01:24:37,160 --> 01:24:41,120
Speaker 1: Juice Williams. So that's interesting nickname potential for us. What

1576
01:24:41,200 --> 01:24:46,519
Speaker 1: can call the next Juice Williams. Defense was just you know,

1577
01:24:46,840 --> 01:24:49,879
Speaker 1: if I'm again going to hammer home combination of quarterback

1578
01:24:49,880 --> 01:24:52,640
Speaker 1: and defense, it was just a mess. Last year. The

1579
01:24:52,680 --> 01:24:55,280
Speaker 1: offense was improved. They ran the ball, they beat Rutgers,

1580
01:24:55,320 --> 01:24:58,479
Speaker 1: they dropped fifty sixty points against Minnesota in a win,

1581
01:24:59,280 --> 01:25:01,840
Speaker 1: but nothing else for them was competitive. Then they made

1582
01:25:01,840 --> 01:25:05,360
Speaker 1: Northwestern interesting at the end. There they couldn't throw the

1583
01:25:05,360 --> 01:25:09,920
Speaker 1: ball a lot of turnovers, and their defense needs to.

1584
01:25:10,040 --> 01:25:13,000
Speaker 1: I mean, the starting point for their defense is they

1585
01:25:13,040 --> 01:25:17,320
Speaker 1: were truly abysmal against the run last year and that

1586
01:25:17,479 --> 01:25:20,599
Speaker 1: was matched only by how horrid they were against the pass.

1587
01:25:21,560 --> 01:25:24,960
Speaker 1: So that's the starting point of a Bowl eligible potential defense.

1588
01:25:25,160 --> 01:25:28,400
Speaker 1: And there's a couple pieces in the secondary, but upfront

1589
01:25:28,439 --> 01:25:32,040
Speaker 1: I don't like a lot. So they've got a Michigan

1590
01:25:32,080 --> 01:25:35,120
Speaker 1: Wisconsin combo in October and October, you know, they're on

1591
01:25:35,120 --> 01:25:37,840
Speaker 1: the road against Michigan State before bye and then at

1592
01:25:37,880 --> 01:25:42,439
Speaker 1: Iowa and Northwestern. I guess the absolute best case scenario

1593
01:25:42,640 --> 01:25:47,080
Speaker 1: is Brandon Peters is pretty good. He's the good version

1594
01:25:47,120 --> 01:25:49,160
Speaker 1: of Brandon Peters. If he ends up starting the season

1595
01:25:49,160 --> 01:25:51,880
Speaker 1: for them, who knows what happens after that. It's a

1596
01:25:51,880 --> 01:25:56,000
Speaker 1: fairly easy non con you know, beat Rutgers and a

1597
01:25:56,040 --> 01:25:57,880
Speaker 1: fifth win would be against a team who has a

1598
01:25:57,960 --> 01:26:02,120
Speaker 1: hurt quarterback. That's that's what I have down here. You know,

1599
01:26:02,439 --> 01:26:05,559
Speaker 1: the worst case scenarios is two to ten because of

1600
01:26:05,640 --> 01:26:07,320
Speaker 1: more of the same, and I don't want people to

1601
01:26:07,320 --> 01:26:11,800
Speaker 1: get hurt no Situationally that does help bad teams win games.

1602
01:26:12,720 --> 01:26:16,320
Speaker 1: All right, That's what I have for Illinois. So I

1603
01:26:16,320 --> 01:26:18,000
Speaker 1: think they're going to be more in the four and eight.

1604
01:26:18,640 --> 01:26:21,000
Speaker 1: That's my most realistic three and three or four and

1605
01:26:21,040 --> 01:26:24,120
Speaker 1: eight for the ALI and I. Unfortunately, they just they

1606
01:26:24,200 --> 01:26:26,559
Speaker 1: gotta find They have a ton of USC transfers, so

1607
01:26:26,600 --> 01:26:29,519
Speaker 1: the talent level is up in Champagne. There's at least

1608
01:26:29,560 --> 01:26:31,559
Speaker 1: a little bit of there's a glimmer of hope at

1609
01:26:31,600 --> 01:26:34,679
Speaker 1: Papa Dell's are in Champagne, Illinois. I think their uniforms

1610
01:26:34,680 --> 01:26:37,120
Speaker 1: are cool. I like their unis. I do like their uniforms.

1611
01:26:37,120 --> 01:26:39,040
Speaker 1: I like that color combo. I like the sort of

1612
01:26:39,040 --> 01:26:42,120
Speaker 1: straightforwardness of them. But that's what I have for the

1613
01:26:42,120 --> 01:26:47,040
Speaker 1: ALI and I, and I think out of the West,

1614
01:26:48,280 --> 01:26:51,640
Speaker 1: I'm going to go with Iowa. Okay, I'm going with

1615
01:26:51,720 --> 01:26:56,800
Speaker 1: Iowa here. I think they edge out Northwestern. Yeah, I

1616
01:26:56,960 --> 01:26:59,120
Speaker 1: think we have Iowa Michigan in the championship game.

1617
01:26:59,160 --> 01:27:01,800
Speaker 2: I am tend to go in Nebraska, but I just

1618
01:27:01,880 --> 01:27:07,400
Speaker 2: don't trust the defense. Okay, and I like Northwestern, but

1619
01:27:09,240 --> 01:27:11,599
Speaker 2: your talk about what they've done on offense has really

1620
01:27:11,640 --> 01:27:15,840
Speaker 2: spooked me and so I think, but they win despite it.

1621
01:27:16,240 --> 01:27:18,920
Speaker 2: They do win despite it, and I think that speaks

1622
01:27:18,960 --> 01:27:20,680
Speaker 2: to what Patt Fitzgerald has built.

1623
01:27:20,920 --> 01:27:25,080
Speaker 1: How good of a coach he is. You know what

1624
01:27:25,080 --> 01:27:29,080
Speaker 1: their offense reminds me of. Yeah, I most of my

1625
01:27:29,200 --> 01:27:32,320
Speaker 1: life now when I'm at home is watching the solid Baby.

1626
01:27:32,320 --> 01:27:34,519
Speaker 1: He can't quite crawl yet, but he does the army

1627
01:27:34,560 --> 01:27:36,760
Speaker 1: crawl thing where he's just sort of dragging himself with

1628
01:27:36,800 --> 01:27:39,800
Speaker 1: his forearms across his mat. He gets to where he

1629
01:27:39,840 --> 01:27:42,439
Speaker 1: wants to go. And that worries me that he's a

1630
01:27:42,439 --> 01:27:45,760
Speaker 1: Northwestern man in training to sure. So I don't know

1631
01:27:45,840 --> 01:27:47,800
Speaker 1: how to act you on who I'm picking here, I

1632
01:27:47,800 --> 01:27:53,240
Speaker 1: don't know. Okay, So Notre Dame, Notre Dame right last

1633
01:27:53,280 --> 01:28:01,080
Speaker 1: team here? Is Notre Dame a playoff caliber pro right now?

1634
01:28:01,520 --> 01:28:05,040
Speaker 1: And by that, I mean, should the expectation, no matter

1635
01:28:05,080 --> 01:28:09,080
Speaker 1: who's starting a quarterback, no matter what you know the

1636
01:28:09,200 --> 01:28:12,679
Speaker 1: depth looks like in a particular year. Have they now

1637
01:28:12,760 --> 01:28:15,800
Speaker 1: reached the point where you know they have these letdown moments?

1638
01:28:15,840 --> 01:28:17,679
Speaker 1: Who was it? Last year? It was Van Dey ball

1639
01:28:17,720 --> 01:28:21,559
Speaker 1: stateon pit They weren't really seriously challenging in the regular

1640
01:28:21,600 --> 01:28:26,920
Speaker 1: season against their better opponents. So is my assumption. Should

1641
01:28:26,920 --> 01:28:30,840
Speaker 1: my assumption, Should America's assumption be with Notre Dame? Yeah,

1642
01:28:30,880 --> 01:28:34,439
Speaker 1: they should be. You know, we should consider them a

1643
01:28:34,439 --> 01:28:35,479
Speaker 1: playoff threat every year.

1644
01:28:35,560 --> 01:28:39,960
Speaker 2: Now I think we are there. Yes, okay, explain, show

1645
01:28:39,960 --> 01:28:42,320
Speaker 2: your work. I do think we are there. They have

1646
01:28:42,479 --> 01:28:49,519
Speaker 2: recruited strongly over the span now of Brian Kelly's tenure

1647
01:28:49,520 --> 01:28:51,760
Speaker 2: in South Bend. So this is a team that very

1648
01:28:51,800 --> 01:28:55,960
Speaker 2: slowly has been establishing itself as I think belonging on

1649
01:28:56,120 --> 01:28:58,240
Speaker 2: that stage, and they've now finally got the blue chip

1650
01:28:58,280 --> 01:29:00,880
Speaker 2: talent to back it up. I think it's totally fair

1651
01:29:00,920 --> 01:29:03,360
Speaker 2: to put them in that category. They're not in the

1652
01:29:03,360 --> 01:29:08,840
Speaker 2: same category though as Alabama or Clemson. They're not in

1653
01:29:08,880 --> 01:29:13,080
Speaker 2: the same category I don't think as Georgia or Ohio State.

1654
01:29:14,080 --> 01:29:17,400
Speaker 2: But they're sort of like right on that cusp, whatever

1655
01:29:17,520 --> 01:29:21,000
Speaker 2: cusp it is that comes after that elite grouping of

1656
01:29:21,000 --> 01:29:23,760
Speaker 2: teams at the very top. Notre Dame has been very,

1657
01:29:23,840 --> 01:29:25,240
Speaker 2: very good in the recruiting department.

1658
01:29:25,720 --> 01:29:27,840
Speaker 1: Ah, So who worries you on this schedule this year?

1659
01:29:29,320 --> 01:29:32,880
Speaker 2: There are three games that decide the season for Notre Dame.

1660
01:29:33,040 --> 01:29:35,640
Speaker 2: We've put all this time in talking about the Illinois

1661
01:29:35,680 --> 01:29:38,800
Speaker 2: and Northwesterns and whoever else in the Big Ten. In

1662
01:29:38,840 --> 01:29:42,080
Speaker 2: many ways, this Notre Dame preview was the easiest one

1663
01:29:42,080 --> 01:29:43,840
Speaker 2: that I had to put together because there are three

1664
01:29:43,880 --> 01:29:46,679
Speaker 2: games on the schedule that are going to decide the fate.

1665
01:29:47,400 --> 01:29:50,280
Speaker 2: There's a road game at Georgia, There's a road game

1666
01:29:50,320 --> 01:29:53,080
Speaker 2: at Michigan, and then there's a road game, a cursed

1667
01:29:53,160 --> 01:29:56,200
Speaker 2: road game, damn it to hell, end of the year

1668
01:29:56,240 --> 01:29:59,840
Speaker 2: against Stanford. Okay, those are the three games at all

1669
01:29:59,840 --> 01:30:03,360
Speaker 2: t we decided to a lesser degree, you've got home

1670
01:30:03,400 --> 01:30:08,400
Speaker 2: games against Virginia the week after Georgia and Virginia Tech,

1671
01:30:09,360 --> 01:30:13,720
Speaker 2: which is the week after Michigan Michigan. Yeah, those could

1672
01:30:13,720 --> 01:30:18,040
Speaker 2: be a little letdowny, but it's really those three games

1673
01:30:18,040 --> 01:30:20,679
Speaker 2: that I think are going to decide it. And that's

1674
01:30:21,080 --> 01:30:24,919
Speaker 2: sort of my first point of I don't know reference

1675
01:30:25,000 --> 01:30:27,760
Speaker 2: as we look at twenty nineteen with Notre Dames.

1676
01:30:27,960 --> 01:30:29,479
Speaker 1: That's the starting point here.

1677
01:30:30,320 --> 01:30:32,639
Speaker 2: The second thing to point out is that this year's

1678
01:30:32,640 --> 01:30:35,679
Speaker 2: team is kind of the opposite of last year's team.

1679
01:30:36,360 --> 01:30:38,360
Speaker 2: I remember when I did the preview with you last

1680
01:30:38,400 --> 01:30:42,719
Speaker 2: year where we really like Notre Dame's leadership and talent

1681
01:30:42,800 --> 01:30:44,800
Speaker 2: on defense, and we had all these questions about the

1682
01:30:44,800 --> 01:30:49,679
Speaker 2: offense in Brandon Wimbush. This year, it's reversed. This year.

1683
01:30:50,360 --> 01:30:54,120
Speaker 2: The defense loses big guns at all three levels. Meanwhile,

1684
01:30:54,160 --> 01:30:57,720
Speaker 2: the offense is mostly intact, and that probably means more

1685
01:30:57,760 --> 01:31:00,639
Speaker 2: pressure on Chiplong and certainly more pressure on ian Book

1686
01:31:01,240 --> 01:31:04,519
Speaker 2: to generate bigger plays and score more points while the

1687
01:31:04,560 --> 01:31:06,680
Speaker 2: defense is figuring it out. But a little bit of

1688
01:31:06,680 --> 01:31:09,240
Speaker 2: a role reversal. Now as you look at twenty nineteen,

1689
01:31:10,040 --> 01:31:13,160
Speaker 2: what they need to do on offense is they need

1690
01:31:13,200 --> 01:31:15,640
Speaker 2: to generate more of those big plays. I don't know

1691
01:31:15,680 --> 01:31:18,280
Speaker 2: how they do it. But the vertical passing game last

1692
01:31:18,320 --> 01:31:21,160
Speaker 2: year was an issue for ian Book. Some of those

1693
01:31:21,200 --> 01:31:23,920
Speaker 2: passes he threw deep when he had guys opened or

1694
01:31:24,040 --> 01:31:27,000
Speaker 2: not great Dan, not great at all, Not great Bob,

1695
01:31:27,400 --> 01:31:30,439
Speaker 2: not great Bob. Got to get better accuracy on that

1696
01:31:30,479 --> 01:31:33,280
Speaker 2: deep ball. They need to convert just a handful more

1697
01:31:33,320 --> 01:31:35,080
Speaker 2: of them, and it makes them better as an offense.

1698
01:31:35,360 --> 01:31:37,680
Speaker 2: That's the first thing. Secondly, I don't know what the

1699
01:31:37,800 --> 01:31:38,759
Speaker 2: running game looks.

1700
01:31:38,560 --> 01:31:39,040
Speaker 1: Like this year.

1701
01:31:39,920 --> 01:31:43,599
Speaker 2: I have no idea why. Well, they lose Dexter Williams.

1702
01:31:43,640 --> 01:31:47,040
Speaker 2: He's gone, and now they're in a position where they've

1703
01:31:47,040 --> 01:31:50,639
Speaker 2: got Jafar Armstrong, who's a converted wide out was nicked

1704
01:31:50,720 --> 01:31:53,120
Speaker 2: up last year. He's more of a jack of all

1705
01:31:53,160 --> 01:31:56,479
Speaker 2: trades type of guy. And then they've got Tony Jones Junior,

1706
01:31:56,520 --> 01:31:59,240
Speaker 2: who's a senior, more physical, more north south. I don't

1707
01:31:59,280 --> 01:32:01,120
Speaker 2: know if either of those guys is really the answer

1708
01:32:01,240 --> 01:32:05,840
Speaker 2: at running back, but they need to get something that

1709
01:32:05,960 --> 01:32:08,240
Speaker 2: is a little bit more consistent out of that ground attack.

1710
01:32:09,240 --> 01:32:11,719
Speaker 2: And then on the defensive side, they need to get

1711
01:32:11,760 --> 01:32:16,200
Speaker 2: better at stopping the run game. There's some questions this

1712
01:32:16,280 --> 01:32:19,680
Speaker 2: year about defensive tackle. They lose Jerry Tillery a lot

1713
01:32:19,680 --> 01:32:23,280
Speaker 2: of turnover at linebacker as well. Drew trankwell, he's gone,

1714
01:32:24,120 --> 01:32:28,519
Speaker 2: but the secondary looks pretty good. At corner, they're loaded

1715
01:32:28,560 --> 01:32:31,679
Speaker 2: back there at safety with the Lohi Gilman and Jalen Elliott.

1716
01:32:32,120 --> 01:32:33,800
Speaker 2: Maybe Kyle Hamilton fits in.

1717
01:32:33,880 --> 01:32:36,040
Speaker 1: Who's the new guy? You like you? Kyle Hamilton is

1718
01:32:36,520 --> 01:32:38,120
Speaker 1: hot and bothered Kyle Hamilton.

1719
01:32:38,200 --> 01:32:40,439
Speaker 2: He had three picks off philger Kovic on the first

1720
01:32:40,520 --> 01:32:43,559
Speaker 2: day of fall camp, huh, which probably says more about

1721
01:32:43,560 --> 01:32:46,600
Speaker 2: filder Kovic than Kyle Hamilton. But I believe Hamilton is

1722
01:32:46,640 --> 01:32:50,559
Speaker 2: now up to five interceptions in fall camp at time

1723
01:32:50,600 --> 01:32:54,839
Speaker 2: of recording. He was a five star kid from Georgia,

1724
01:32:54,960 --> 01:32:57,960
Speaker 2: I want to say, committed to Notre Dame. He has

1725
01:32:58,000 --> 01:33:00,880
Speaker 2: been making a splash to the extent the coaching staff

1726
01:33:00,920 --> 01:33:02,960
Speaker 2: is trying to find other ways that they can utilize them,

1727
01:33:03,800 --> 01:33:06,640
Speaker 2: like maybe we could play tight end. I don't know,

1728
01:33:06,720 --> 01:33:08,120
Speaker 2: maybe we'll play running back this year.

1729
01:33:08,320 --> 01:33:12,080
Speaker 1: They all knows. So if your concern is with the offense,

1730
01:33:12,600 --> 01:33:16,880
Speaker 1: what I'm hearing is the new college football drive for six.

1731
01:33:17,040 --> 01:33:19,000
Speaker 1: Is Notre Dame scoring a playoff touchdown?

1732
01:33:20,320 --> 01:33:23,320
Speaker 2: Yes, my concern isn't with the offense, though, That's not

1733
01:33:23,360 --> 01:33:24,040
Speaker 2: what you're hearing.

1734
01:33:24,520 --> 01:33:27,640
Speaker 1: Okay. I have questions about how they can make the

1735
01:33:27,680 --> 01:33:29,320
Speaker 1: offense better. Okay.

1736
01:33:29,560 --> 01:33:33,880
Speaker 2: My concern though, is mostly with how they replace some

1737
01:33:34,080 --> 01:33:35,920
Speaker 2: of the spine.

1738
01:33:35,560 --> 01:33:36,320
Speaker 1: Of that defense.

1739
01:33:36,960 --> 01:33:40,600
Speaker 2: Okay, up the middle, who's stopping the run at the

1740
01:33:40,640 --> 01:33:45,080
Speaker 2: first level, At the second level, who your linebackers now

1741
01:33:45,080 --> 01:33:50,400
Speaker 2: that Tavon Coney Drew Trank wore gone really right up

1742
01:33:50,439 --> 01:33:52,360
Speaker 2: the gut? Is my question with this team.

1743
01:33:52,439 --> 01:33:55,639
Speaker 1: Do you like Clark Lee? I do like Clark Lee. Okay.

1744
01:33:56,560 --> 01:33:58,559
Speaker 2: I think they've got a great coaching staff in place,

1745
01:33:59,600 --> 01:34:00,840
Speaker 2: and I think they're going to be able to get

1746
01:34:00,840 --> 01:34:04,240
Speaker 2: after the passer. But how they stop the run is

1747
01:34:04,280 --> 01:34:06,639
Speaker 2: going to mean a lot and ultimately tell us which

1748
01:34:06,640 --> 01:34:07,679
Speaker 2: direction this team's going.

1749
01:34:07,800 --> 01:34:10,080
Speaker 1: So so best case is what eleven and one, twelve

1750
01:34:10,080 --> 01:34:16,599
Speaker 1: and zero again probably yeahs worst case nine and three?

1751
01:34:17,040 --> 01:34:18,479
Speaker 1: And why do they go nine and three?

1752
01:34:18,640 --> 01:34:20,880
Speaker 2: I think they go nine to three because, first off,

1753
01:34:20,880 --> 01:34:23,760
Speaker 2: that Georgia game is tough in Athens, and I don't

1754
01:34:23,760 --> 01:34:26,400
Speaker 2: see him winning that game. I could also see a

1755
01:34:26,439 --> 01:34:33,600
Speaker 2: situation in which they drop a game against Virginia in

1756
01:34:33,640 --> 01:34:39,400
Speaker 2: a letdown spot. That one terrifies me. And that Michigan

1757
01:34:39,479 --> 01:34:42,320
Speaker 2: game is going to be tough. Yeah, if Michigan's better

1758
01:34:42,360 --> 01:34:46,040
Speaker 2: on offense, if they could find a way to pull

1759
01:34:46,080 --> 01:34:49,120
Speaker 2: Notre Dame apart with this new speed and space thing

1760
01:34:50,120 --> 01:34:52,080
Speaker 2: that Josh Gaddis is trying to try it out there,

1761
01:34:52,640 --> 01:34:55,640
Speaker 2: that could make the spine of the defense very susceptible.

1762
01:34:56,600 --> 01:34:59,280
Speaker 1: So their losses probably loves you know who loves hashtag

1763
01:34:59,360 --> 01:34:59,960
Speaker 1: speed and space.

1764
01:35:01,000 --> 01:35:03,680
Speaker 2: J Paterno, I don't know. I'm excited about Notre Dame

1765
01:35:04,200 --> 01:35:06,960
Speaker 2: of course, got blown out in the playoff semifinal last year.

1766
01:35:07,000 --> 01:35:09,479
Speaker 2: But yeah, I think it's an easy preview.

1767
01:35:10,040 --> 01:35:10,360
Speaker 1: I do.

1768
01:35:10,640 --> 01:35:13,880
Speaker 2: It's an easy preview. Three big games, two letdowns to

1769
01:35:13,920 --> 01:35:18,920
Speaker 2: be careful of and uh, the offense should be pretty good.

1770
01:35:18,960 --> 01:35:20,280
Speaker 2: I just got questions on defense.

1771
01:35:20,320 --> 01:35:24,200
Speaker 1: Now, well, listen, if fifty of this show's host don't

1772
01:35:24,200 --> 01:35:26,080
Speaker 1: have to root for a team running the pistol, that's

1773
01:35:26,080 --> 01:35:27,559
Speaker 1: a win in its own That is a winn in

1774
01:35:27,560 --> 01:35:29,920
Speaker 1: its own right. Yeah, okay, that's all I have, Big

1775
01:35:29,960 --> 01:35:32,080
Speaker 1: ten and Notre Dame. Hooray.

1776
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1777
01:35:34,680 --> 01:35:36,599
Speaker 2: you still got time. We're going to send an email

1778
01:35:36,640 --> 01:35:39,639
Speaker 2: out this week. Many of you may see that email

1779
01:35:39,680 --> 01:35:41,519
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1780
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1781
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1783
01:35:52,520 --> 01:35:55,439
Speaker 2: will be at Union Stage on August the eighteenth, of

1784
01:35:55,520 --> 01:35:59,639
Speaker 2: the Sunday night. That show starts at seven thirty. Daniel,

1785
01:35:59,640 --> 01:36:03,479
Speaker 2: I'm exed, Mike. We likes coaching in that area. Indeed,

1786
01:36:03,479 --> 01:36:04,639
Speaker 2: I will see you this weekend.

1787
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Speaker 1: Yeah, oh, I can't wait. So we've got Texas, We've

1788
01:36:08,000 --> 01:36:11,040
Speaker 1: got DC, we got flights, weathers looking good, We're feeling great,

1789
01:36:11,080 --> 01:36:13,040
Speaker 1: we have lots of material. We're all in the we're

1790
01:36:13,040 --> 01:36:16,280
Speaker 1: in the process of organizing it all. We're gonna collate it.

1791
01:36:16,320 --> 01:36:18,920
Speaker 1: Maybe head up, head over to a Kinko's. Yeah, very

1792
01:36:18,920 --> 01:36:21,840
Speaker 1: exciting times for the Solid Verbal. We really really would

1793
01:36:21,840 --> 01:36:24,200
Speaker 1: love to see you. We are we're running low on tickets,

1794
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Speaker 1: so if you are on the fence, just just come

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1796
01:36:29,200 --> 01:36:31,360
Speaker 1: We'd love to see you. We do this show staring

1797
01:36:31,400 --> 01:36:34,040
Speaker 1: into a screen with all sorts of weird foam on

1798
01:36:34,040 --> 01:36:36,559
Speaker 1: the walls around us. It is. It's a great time

1799
01:36:36,600 --> 01:36:39,200
Speaker 1: to meet everybody, So I really hope you can come out.

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Speaker 1: That'd be great for.

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01:36:40,640 --> 01:36:43,639
Speaker 2: That guy out there, my good friend Dan Rubinstein, for myself,

1802
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Speaker 2: Ty Hildon Brandt.

1803
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Speaker 1: We will catch you all very soon. In the meantime,

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Speaker 1: stay sold peace,