1 00:00:05,559 --> 00:00:08,440 Speaker 1: Oh, I'm John Krasinski and I played Jim Albert on 2 00:00:08,480 --> 00:00:21,160 Speaker 1: The Office. Oh hello everybody, uh, and welcome to this 3 00:00:21,200 --> 00:00:25,360 Speaker 1: week's episode of the Office Deep Dive. I am your 4 00:00:25,360 --> 00:00:31,040 Speaker 1: host Brian Baumgartner. Today. Oh, you are going to hear 5 00:00:31,160 --> 00:00:35,320 Speaker 1: him in a way you have never heard him before, 6 00:00:35,920 --> 00:00:40,640 Speaker 1: the hunkiest man in the Office, John Krasinski. Now, I 7 00:00:40,760 --> 00:00:44,960 Speaker 1: actually had to go to New York uh, in the 8 00:00:45,040 --> 00:00:48,720 Speaker 1: dead of winter. I might add to have my conversation 9 00:00:48,760 --> 00:00:51,920 Speaker 1: with John because at the time he was putting the 10 00:00:51,960 --> 00:00:56,560 Speaker 1: finishing touches on his film A Quiet Place Too. He 11 00:00:56,680 --> 00:01:00,880 Speaker 1: was doing final edits, he was getting for the premiere, 12 00:01:01,000 --> 00:01:06,440 Speaker 1: working very hard, and then about a week later, boom, 13 00:01:06,640 --> 00:01:12,200 Speaker 1: global pandemic. That's right, so that premiere did not happen. 14 00:01:12,319 --> 00:01:15,640 Speaker 1: I had to return the tucks I had rented um. 15 00:01:16,000 --> 00:01:20,880 Speaker 1: The release date obviously was postponed, like very postponed. But 16 00:01:21,760 --> 00:01:25,440 Speaker 1: I am excited to announce that A Quiet Place Too 17 00:01:25,959 --> 00:01:30,640 Speaker 1: is now finally coming out. I cannot wait. I love 18 00:01:30,760 --> 00:01:33,040 Speaker 1: the first one. If you haven't seen it, go check 19 00:01:33,120 --> 00:01:35,320 Speaker 1: that one out because this this movie is going to 20 00:01:35,400 --> 00:01:38,880 Speaker 1: be great. Anyway, I'm so glad I got to talk 21 00:01:38,920 --> 00:01:43,120 Speaker 1: to John before we got stuck on opposite coast because 22 00:01:43,560 --> 00:01:49,240 Speaker 1: seeing him in person, well, there's an energy. It's palpable. 23 00:01:49,520 --> 00:01:51,920 Speaker 1: I'm not going to call it sexual energy. I'm just 24 00:01:51,960 --> 00:01:55,160 Speaker 1: gonna say it's palpable. You you can decide what kind 25 00:01:55,200 --> 00:01:59,200 Speaker 1: it is. John is a great storyteller. He's so funny, 26 00:01:59,280 --> 00:02:01,840 Speaker 1: and he remember vers all kinds of things that that 27 00:02:01,960 --> 00:02:06,480 Speaker 1: I do not remember from the show bus. It's it's 28 00:02:06,600 --> 00:02:12,040 Speaker 1: just great to see my friend. So please enjoy the 29 00:02:12,120 --> 00:02:22,080 Speaker 1: one and only j K. Bubble and Squeak. I love it. 30 00:02:22,560 --> 00:02:28,840 Speaker 1: Bubble and Squeak on Bubble and Squeaker cookie every month, 31 00:02:29,120 --> 00:02:49,760 Speaker 1: left over from the night before. Hey, body's just never 32 00:02:49,840 --> 00:02:54,600 Speaker 1: let it end. Thanks for choosing to kill floor to record. 33 00:02:54,680 --> 00:02:57,400 Speaker 1: It's like, hey, what do you mean? It's the scariest dart. 34 00:02:58,240 --> 00:03:01,320 Speaker 1: I actually agree. I got out and I right and 35 00:03:01,520 --> 00:03:06,640 Speaker 1: was like where I think I'm in the wrong spot? Oh, 36 00:03:06,680 --> 00:03:11,840 Speaker 1: what's up are you doing? Dude? What's your hat? Um? 37 00:03:11,880 --> 00:03:13,880 Speaker 1: How are you? By the way, just so you know, 38 00:03:13,919 --> 00:03:15,600 Speaker 1: this is not Rebecca. I just want to teach you 39 00:03:15,600 --> 00:03:18,440 Speaker 1: about things when you were like found a place in Tribeca. 40 00:03:18,639 --> 00:03:22,800 Speaker 1: I didn't say that. I said, this is this is horrible. 41 00:03:23,000 --> 00:03:26,400 Speaker 1: We're recording this on the Statland. It's literally horrible to 42 00:03:26,440 --> 00:03:28,799 Speaker 1: get here. I ended up getting out of my car 43 00:03:28,880 --> 00:03:32,440 Speaker 1: and walked still taking you in. I'm just drinking you in. 44 00:03:34,400 --> 00:03:36,960 Speaker 1: You have not changed. It's really frustrating what everyone says 45 00:03:37,000 --> 00:03:39,480 Speaker 1: that I really feel like I have. No, you haven't. 46 00:03:39,680 --> 00:03:42,760 Speaker 1: I certainly am you have a lot. I'm elderly. Why 47 00:03:42,760 --> 00:03:46,520 Speaker 1: would you say that I feel elderly else I can't 48 00:03:46,520 --> 00:03:52,240 Speaker 1: even say elderly. What's with the intense beard though? Um? 49 00:03:52,280 --> 00:03:58,160 Speaker 1: It started with laziness and then turned into winter, so 50 00:03:58,200 --> 00:04:01,240 Speaker 1: it's just insulation. Really, gotta be honest. My wife, I 51 00:04:01,320 --> 00:04:02,760 Speaker 1: was gonna shave it, and you want don't do that, 52 00:04:02,880 --> 00:04:08,080 Speaker 1: so she liked it. Hello, Um, I can't do you know? 53 00:04:08,120 --> 00:04:10,480 Speaker 1: I love No, I like it. No, I'm saying I 54 00:04:10,520 --> 00:04:13,680 Speaker 1: love it here here in York just too cold. We've 55 00:04:13,720 --> 00:04:16,679 Speaker 1: moved on from the beard. Okay, Well you talked about winter. 56 00:04:17,000 --> 00:04:19,400 Speaker 1: I thought that was a seamless transition. Get ready for 57 00:04:19,440 --> 00:04:23,679 Speaker 1: a lot of those I love it here. You should 58 00:04:23,680 --> 00:04:28,240 Speaker 1: move here. It's really cold and it's literally the opposite 59 00:04:28,279 --> 00:04:30,320 Speaker 1: of what you want. There's not a lot of golf. 60 00:04:31,160 --> 00:04:33,120 Speaker 1: You've really done the post office thing, right, I'll tell 61 00:04:33,160 --> 00:04:35,920 Speaker 1: you that. What do you mean just you know, show ends. 62 00:04:36,080 --> 00:04:41,279 Speaker 1: You just become this like golfing extraordinaire. Like people don't 63 00:04:41,320 --> 00:04:47,360 Speaker 1: know that I was over in Monte Carlo, Monica, Monica, Monica, 64 00:04:47,520 --> 00:04:51,000 Speaker 1: one of those m's. Yeah, well that's Monte Carlo and Monica. 65 00:04:51,080 --> 00:04:52,760 Speaker 1: I think it's kind of the same thing. Are still 66 00:04:53,400 --> 00:04:55,360 Speaker 1: I'm not clear of. All I know is that I 67 00:04:55,400 --> 00:04:57,560 Speaker 1: heard that you were there. I texted you and you said, 68 00:04:57,600 --> 00:05:00,440 Speaker 1: I'm going, oh my god, this is great. I'm about 69 00:05:00,440 --> 00:05:04,839 Speaker 1: to golf on a cliff overlooking like nice or something. 70 00:05:05,240 --> 00:05:10,800 Speaker 1: It was like, cool, man, sorry about your life. Um, 71 00:05:10,960 --> 00:05:13,360 Speaker 1: look at that you got notes? Is so official? No, No, 72 00:05:13,440 --> 00:05:17,320 Speaker 1: I mean this is let's get back to it. You've 73 00:05:17,320 --> 00:05:21,640 Speaker 1: now gotten everybody almost other than Steve basically, Uh yeah, Mike, sure, 74 00:05:22,160 --> 00:05:24,240 Speaker 1: I'm gonna start making this noise. I'm sure I'm gonna 75 00:05:24,240 --> 00:05:25,880 Speaker 1: get that note pretty soon. Yep, and that's a nod 76 00:05:25,880 --> 00:05:31,039 Speaker 1: in the back. Alison Jones. Did you get Phillis? Yep? 77 00:05:31,760 --> 00:05:36,600 Speaker 1: And I got them together as a that's awesome. Alison 78 00:05:36,680 --> 00:05:42,039 Speaker 1: knew Phillis did not. Man, Yeah, they were like mystics. 79 00:05:42,320 --> 00:05:45,960 Speaker 1: They knew what was happening before we did. In the 80 00:05:45,960 --> 00:05:48,600 Speaker 1: casting process. They knew they were cooking something. But you 81 00:05:48,640 --> 00:05:51,800 Speaker 1: started in New York, right, I did, Yeah, yeah, so 82 00:05:51,880 --> 00:05:53,960 Speaker 1: you just it was like, what an open call or 83 00:05:54,000 --> 00:05:58,320 Speaker 1: you got called into I got, wow, the elderly thing's 84 00:05:58,320 --> 00:06:01,440 Speaker 1: taken in. I got I had just gotten a manager. 85 00:06:01,720 --> 00:06:03,279 Speaker 1: I had gone out to l A to shoot this 86 00:06:03,360 --> 00:06:05,359 Speaker 1: pilot and then they immediately didn't pick it up. And 87 00:06:05,400 --> 00:06:07,800 Speaker 1: before I left l A, my manager said you should 88 00:06:07,839 --> 00:06:10,160 Speaker 1: meet this person, Alison Jones. So I went by and 89 00:06:10,240 --> 00:06:13,680 Speaker 1: met her and wanted her to adopt me. And then 90 00:06:13,720 --> 00:06:16,520 Speaker 1: she said, you should pay attention to this thing coming 91 00:06:16,520 --> 00:06:18,320 Speaker 1: out soon and it's called The Office and you should 92 00:06:18,640 --> 00:06:19,800 Speaker 1: you should come in for it. And I said, oh, 93 00:06:19,880 --> 00:06:21,760 Speaker 1: that's really nice. So I got back to New York 94 00:06:22,600 --> 00:06:24,960 Speaker 1: and about three weeks later, my manager called and said, 95 00:06:25,000 --> 00:06:26,400 Speaker 1: they want you to come in for the show called 96 00:06:26,440 --> 00:06:29,479 Speaker 1: The Office. And I was like, Alison Jones pro and 97 00:06:29,520 --> 00:06:31,039 Speaker 1: they said they want you to come in for the 98 00:06:31,120 --> 00:06:35,559 Speaker 1: role of Dwighte. And at that point I had seen 99 00:06:36,000 --> 00:06:39,159 Speaker 1: and fallen in love with the British show. I was 100 00:06:39,200 --> 00:06:42,039 Speaker 1: down at Virgin Records. Remember that I was down at 101 00:06:42,120 --> 00:06:45,599 Speaker 1: Virgin Records and Union Square buying the like black DVD 102 00:06:45,760 --> 00:06:51,200 Speaker 1: case with this special edition and just binge watching that thing, 103 00:06:52,000 --> 00:06:53,880 Speaker 1: and that's what made me so nervous, so that I 104 00:06:53,960 --> 00:06:56,680 Speaker 1: actually said I don't know where I got I was 105 00:06:56,720 --> 00:06:59,400 Speaker 1: still waiting tables and I don't know where I got 106 00:06:59,440 --> 00:07:02,320 Speaker 1: the confidence to go, yeah, no, I don't want to 107 00:07:02,360 --> 00:07:04,400 Speaker 1: go in for Dwight. Let me know when they're doing 108 00:07:04,440 --> 00:07:08,880 Speaker 1: the Tim character. And they basically said like how dare you? 109 00:07:09,480 --> 00:07:11,880 Speaker 1: Who are you? And my manager did say he was 110 00:07:11,880 --> 00:07:13,880 Speaker 1: like wow, that didn't go great. They were very upset, 111 00:07:13,960 --> 00:07:18,560 Speaker 1: and then, very luckily for me, like four three four 112 00:07:18,600 --> 00:07:21,200 Speaker 1: weeks later, they still hadn't found a gym, and then 113 00:07:21,200 --> 00:07:23,240 Speaker 1: they were like, now you can come in for Jim 114 00:07:23,280 --> 00:07:25,960 Speaker 1: and I was like okay, and then I went in 115 00:07:27,400 --> 00:07:29,400 Speaker 1: trying to remember I guess I did one just with 116 00:07:29,440 --> 00:07:33,720 Speaker 1: the casting people. It was totally terrified, because not only 117 00:07:33,800 --> 00:07:35,800 Speaker 1: was I excited about the prospect of getting the part, 118 00:07:35,840 --> 00:07:38,480 Speaker 1: but I was also very nervous. Oh my god, I 119 00:07:38,480 --> 00:07:40,080 Speaker 1: don't want to be on one of those shows that 120 00:07:40,400 --> 00:07:42,560 Speaker 1: because I was such a TV nerd, and I remember 121 00:07:42,560 --> 00:07:44,840 Speaker 1: like Arrested Development was coming out around then and that 122 00:07:44,960 --> 00:07:46,800 Speaker 1: was really good and smart, and I was like, oh no, 123 00:07:46,880 --> 00:07:49,200 Speaker 1: we're going to take a really good, smart show and 124 00:07:49,360 --> 00:07:52,760 Speaker 1: kill it, and while I was waiting in the waiting room, 125 00:07:53,080 --> 00:07:55,960 Speaker 1: six gyms that looked identical to me had gone in 126 00:07:56,200 --> 00:07:58,400 Speaker 1: and done their audition and left, and we're like high 127 00:07:58,400 --> 00:08:01,400 Speaker 1: fiving each other, and I was the last on and 128 00:08:01,560 --> 00:08:03,520 Speaker 1: right at that exact moment, they were like, we're gonna 129 00:08:03,520 --> 00:08:06,600 Speaker 1: take a lunch break for an hour, and I was like, oh, 130 00:08:06,760 --> 00:08:08,920 Speaker 1: maybe see one more and we get one more in 131 00:08:09,600 --> 00:08:12,320 Speaker 1: and I sat there very nervous, and everybody left. It 132 00:08:12,360 --> 00:08:14,200 Speaker 1: was at thirty rock, and then they came back with 133 00:08:14,240 --> 00:08:17,000 Speaker 1: sandwiches and salads and someone sat down across from me 134 00:08:17,080 --> 00:08:19,160 Speaker 1: with a salad and said, you know you're nervous, and 135 00:08:19,200 --> 00:08:20,760 Speaker 1: I said, no, you know, you either get these things 136 00:08:20,800 --> 00:08:24,320 Speaker 1: or you don't. But I'm terrified for the person creating 137 00:08:24,320 --> 00:08:27,000 Speaker 1: a show, because I mean, I I just feel like 138 00:08:27,080 --> 00:08:30,680 Speaker 1: Americans have such a track record of taking brilliant shows 139 00:08:30,680 --> 00:08:33,840 Speaker 1: and ruining them. And he goes, I'll try not to. 140 00:08:33,920 --> 00:08:37,120 Speaker 1: My name is Greg Daniels. I'm the executive doucer. And 141 00:08:37,160 --> 00:08:38,920 Speaker 1: then I called my manager and said, I'm going to 142 00:08:39,040 --> 00:08:42,199 Speaker 1: leave now. There's no way I can go into this 143 00:08:42,559 --> 00:08:45,320 Speaker 1: room and he was like, you have to, you have 144 00:08:45,400 --> 00:08:47,280 Speaker 1: to go in, and you know, blah, blah blah, and 145 00:08:47,280 --> 00:08:49,480 Speaker 1: I went in and I remember opening the door to 146 00:08:49,679 --> 00:08:53,880 Speaker 1: uproarious laughter, and it was not laughter with me, it 147 00:08:53,960 --> 00:08:57,080 Speaker 1: was definitely laughter at me. And Greg was running the 148 00:08:57,160 --> 00:08:59,480 Speaker 1: room and very sweetly but just like this is the 149 00:08:59,520 --> 00:09:02,720 Speaker 1: guy who ruined his own life, and everybody was like laughing, 150 00:09:02,880 --> 00:09:08,079 Speaker 1: and it, weirdly was this bizarre blessing because because they 151 00:09:08,080 --> 00:09:11,679 Speaker 1: were already laughing, I felt like I was already in 152 00:09:11,720 --> 00:09:13,640 Speaker 1: my audition when I walked in, So I just kept 153 00:09:13,640 --> 00:09:17,559 Speaker 1: going and read some lines and they laughed. And then 154 00:09:17,679 --> 00:09:20,440 Speaker 1: later I remember Gregg saying, I'll never forget that. You 155 00:09:20,520 --> 00:09:24,000 Speaker 1: told me that it really helped your audition because you 156 00:09:24,040 --> 00:09:26,800 Speaker 1: were really honest, and I remember I, that's the vibe 157 00:09:26,840 --> 00:09:29,440 Speaker 1: that I want on this show, someone who will be 158 00:09:29,520 --> 00:09:31,640 Speaker 1: honest and make sure that we're all doing good work. 159 00:09:31,640 --> 00:09:33,360 Speaker 1: And I was like totally. So now I go into 160 00:09:33,440 --> 00:09:35,720 Speaker 1: every audition for anything just being like, so, this movie 161 00:09:35,840 --> 00:09:41,240 Speaker 1: sucks all right, hasn't worked since. But but the weirdest 162 00:09:41,240 --> 00:09:43,000 Speaker 1: thing was I came and I didn't know this that 163 00:09:43,040 --> 00:09:47,080 Speaker 1: there's a dynamic between New York actors and l A actors. 164 00:09:47,120 --> 00:09:50,600 Speaker 1: Did you know this? It's like sharks and jets, like 165 00:09:51,040 --> 00:09:53,880 Speaker 1: the New York actors go first because they flew in 166 00:09:53,920 --> 00:09:57,000 Speaker 1: for it. And I remember Jim Gaffigan was on my 167 00:09:57,000 --> 00:10:01,080 Speaker 1: plane auditioning for Steve's part, and and um, we were 168 00:10:01,120 --> 00:10:04,120 Speaker 1: all in this room doing auditions, and I remember I 169 00:10:04,160 --> 00:10:07,080 Speaker 1: got really nervous because we had been auditioning for like 170 00:10:07,120 --> 00:10:09,880 Speaker 1: two hours. And then they like slowly were letting New 171 00:10:09,920 --> 00:10:12,480 Speaker 1: York people go. And then I watched all the l 172 00:10:12,520 --> 00:10:15,560 Speaker 1: A people come in and was just completely judging myself 173 00:10:16,120 --> 00:10:20,400 Speaker 1: on them. Man, I'm having like a an acid flashback. 174 00:10:20,480 --> 00:10:24,640 Speaker 1: But two people walked in that really blew my brain out. 175 00:10:24,720 --> 00:10:28,200 Speaker 1: One was bj Novak, who I hadn't seen really since 176 00:10:28,240 --> 00:10:30,120 Speaker 1: high school. We went to high school together, all right, 177 00:10:30,160 --> 00:10:32,480 Speaker 1: so you knew him, and he walked in. He walked Yeah. 178 00:10:32,520 --> 00:10:34,920 Speaker 1: I mean, imagine like somebody from your high school walking 179 00:10:34,960 --> 00:10:38,360 Speaker 1: into a bizarre scenario. Already you're in some weird bizarro 180 00:10:38,480 --> 00:10:41,760 Speaker 1: world auditioning to be doing something pretend for the rest 181 00:10:41,760 --> 00:10:44,000 Speaker 1: of your life, and then that person walks in. It 182 00:10:44,040 --> 00:10:46,080 Speaker 1: was an acid trip, and I was like hey, And 183 00:10:46,080 --> 00:10:48,360 Speaker 1: then I got more nervous because he acted and directed 184 00:10:48,360 --> 00:10:50,200 Speaker 1: and everything in high school, like he was already in 185 00:10:50,320 --> 00:10:52,320 Speaker 1: and I was barely an actor. I mean, I wasn't 186 00:10:52,360 --> 00:10:54,320 Speaker 1: an actor. I was a waiter and I was like, 187 00:10:54,440 --> 00:10:56,360 Speaker 1: what part are you going out for? And he was like, oh, 188 00:10:56,400 --> 00:10:58,800 Speaker 1: we're going I'm doing this part called Ryan It's like 189 00:10:58,960 --> 00:11:01,120 Speaker 1: and I was like, oh, you're not going for gym? 190 00:11:01,160 --> 00:11:03,760 Speaker 1: Then I might say other shot at and then I 191 00:11:03,800 --> 00:11:06,679 Speaker 1: was like cool man, that's awesome, and was super like 192 00:11:06,840 --> 00:11:09,680 Speaker 1: giving myself a fist pump. And then I know it 193 00:11:09,760 --> 00:11:11,880 Speaker 1: sounds like a like a fairy tale, but it's true. 194 00:11:11,920 --> 00:11:15,000 Speaker 1: I remember Jenni Fisher walking in and as soon as 195 00:11:15,040 --> 00:11:17,000 Speaker 1: she crossed the threshold on the door, I was like, well, 196 00:11:17,040 --> 00:11:21,000 Speaker 1: that's it, Like that is exactly who should play Pam. 197 00:11:21,040 --> 00:11:24,679 Speaker 1: And then what happened was I watched her go in 198 00:11:24,720 --> 00:11:27,800 Speaker 1: with all the other gyms and I was like, oh no, 199 00:11:27,960 --> 00:11:30,600 Speaker 1: because like I saw that they were just lining up 200 00:11:30,640 --> 00:11:32,800 Speaker 1: the gyms with her, and I was like, see, she's 201 00:11:32,880 --> 00:11:36,000 Speaker 1: it's the tipping point. She's it. And I remember saying 202 00:11:36,000 --> 00:11:39,360 Speaker 1: to myself alone in a corner, Uh, if I don't 203 00:11:39,400 --> 00:11:40,920 Speaker 1: go in with her, I know I don't have it. 204 00:11:41,080 --> 00:11:43,400 Speaker 1: I know I don't have it. And I never went 205 00:11:43,440 --> 00:11:47,040 Speaker 1: in with her. And then four hours after they had 206 00:11:47,040 --> 00:11:48,360 Speaker 1: like go of all the new York guys. I was 207 00:11:48,400 --> 00:11:52,280 Speaker 1: sitting there and stood up and walked on set while 208 00:11:52,320 --> 00:11:54,240 Speaker 1: they were in the middle of someone's audition, and I 209 00:11:54,240 --> 00:11:56,120 Speaker 1: was like, I'm so sorry. I'm gonna leave now. I 210 00:11:56,120 --> 00:11:58,960 Speaker 1: think you forgot to let me go home. And from 211 00:11:59,040 --> 00:12:01,160 Speaker 1: behind a door like a fake wall, they were like 212 00:12:01,200 --> 00:12:04,320 Speaker 1: all right, and then like Greg came out and they're like, 213 00:12:04,360 --> 00:12:05,920 Speaker 1: just give us thirty more minutes, and I was like, 214 00:12:06,360 --> 00:12:09,880 Speaker 1: and I was so insecure, and then I turned around. 215 00:12:09,880 --> 00:12:11,800 Speaker 1: I waited another fifteen twenty minutes and they were like 216 00:12:11,840 --> 00:12:13,760 Speaker 1: one more, just come on in. And I walked in 217 00:12:13,800 --> 00:12:15,760 Speaker 1: and I saw that it was Jenna and I was like, 218 00:12:15,920 --> 00:12:19,439 Speaker 1: oh my god, if I'm auditioning with her, I'm back. 219 00:12:19,760 --> 00:12:22,960 Speaker 1: You have a shot. And we did a scene together 220 00:12:23,200 --> 00:12:25,240 Speaker 1: that was awesome, and I remember having so much fun 221 00:12:25,240 --> 00:12:26,800 Speaker 1: with it. I think it was that the copier. I 222 00:12:26,800 --> 00:12:28,680 Speaker 1: think I think it was one at the desk and 223 00:12:28,679 --> 00:12:30,280 Speaker 1: one at the copier and we just had to improv 224 00:12:30,360 --> 00:12:33,600 Speaker 1: about stuff. And then we were walking out and I 225 00:12:33,640 --> 00:12:34,800 Speaker 1: turned to her and I was like, just so you 226 00:12:34,800 --> 00:12:36,280 Speaker 1: know you're gonna get the part. I know you're gonna 227 00:12:36,320 --> 00:12:37,800 Speaker 1: get the part, and she was like, oh my god. 228 00:12:38,280 --> 00:12:40,000 Speaker 1: I said the same thing about you. As soon as 229 00:12:40,040 --> 00:12:41,920 Speaker 1: I saw you, I was like, that's Jim and it 230 00:12:42,000 --> 00:12:44,160 Speaker 1: was really weird and I was like, all right, And 231 00:12:44,200 --> 00:12:46,000 Speaker 1: again I don't know why this happened, but when I 232 00:12:46,000 --> 00:12:49,160 Speaker 1: got the part, which was amazing, I legit jumped on 233 00:12:49,200 --> 00:12:51,560 Speaker 1: a couch. I didn't think that that was real. And 234 00:12:51,600 --> 00:12:53,600 Speaker 1: the only question I asked my manager at the time 235 00:12:53,679 --> 00:12:56,160 Speaker 1: was did Jennificer get it. It was like I didn't 236 00:12:56,160 --> 00:13:00,200 Speaker 1: even get fully happy until I knew that she was 237 00:13:00,240 --> 00:13:02,959 Speaker 1: doing the part, because I was like, if she's the part, 238 00:13:03,840 --> 00:13:05,880 Speaker 1: then again, it's just that one more step where like 239 00:13:05,880 --> 00:13:09,760 Speaker 1: this might be good. It's so interesting because that a 240 00:13:09,880 --> 00:13:12,760 Speaker 1: four hour story and that was really good. But what 241 00:13:13,000 --> 00:13:17,520 Speaker 1: it um, it's interesting. I had never heard this before. 242 00:13:18,200 --> 00:13:22,960 Speaker 1: Greg said she was she was it from the beginning. Yeah, 243 00:13:23,320 --> 00:13:25,880 Speaker 1: it's weird, right like, and look is just so perfect 244 00:13:25,960 --> 00:13:28,600 Speaker 1: for it. But then also like, I don't know, man, 245 00:13:28,600 --> 00:13:30,640 Speaker 1: they were selling in her delivery how like I don't 246 00:13:30,640 --> 00:13:32,199 Speaker 1: know what the word is, like demure or something. And 247 00:13:32,360 --> 00:13:37,080 Speaker 1: she was so good. I remember being so nervous when 248 00:13:37,080 --> 00:13:38,720 Speaker 1: I was auditioning with her because I was like, she 249 00:13:38,920 --> 00:13:42,360 Speaker 1: was so subdued and under where I was like, oh 250 00:13:42,400 --> 00:13:45,720 Speaker 1: my god, I'm I'm like, she's just doing like physical 251 00:13:45,800 --> 00:13:48,200 Speaker 1: comedy bits compared to you. So I just went super 252 00:13:48,240 --> 00:13:51,160 Speaker 1: submerged and was like by the end just being like 253 00:13:51,160 --> 00:13:54,960 Speaker 1: like barely talking. So so does she help you? Oh 254 00:13:55,000 --> 00:13:58,880 Speaker 1: for sure? Because again I knew that my chance, my 255 00:13:58,960 --> 00:14:01,040 Speaker 1: only chance, was with her, And as soon as I 256 00:14:01,080 --> 00:14:02,600 Speaker 1: started acting with her, I was like, dude, this is 257 00:14:02,600 --> 00:14:05,360 Speaker 1: the one. Don't blow this. Like I had auditioned with Rain, 258 00:14:06,040 --> 00:14:07,600 Speaker 1: I also kind of knew Rain was going to get it, 259 00:14:07,600 --> 00:14:10,280 Speaker 1: only because he was so I've told this story. He 260 00:14:10,280 --> 00:14:13,080 Speaker 1: knows this story is like we were doing an improv 261 00:14:13,160 --> 00:14:16,280 Speaker 1: about a bunch of things, and they did one where 262 00:14:16,440 --> 00:14:17,800 Speaker 1: I had to go to the bathroom and I asked 263 00:14:17,880 --> 00:14:22,240 Speaker 1: him to watch my phone. And by that time I 264 00:14:22,280 --> 00:14:25,880 Speaker 1: was feeling great and Rain was so good and so funny, 265 00:14:26,080 --> 00:14:29,920 Speaker 1: and then in this particular improv he was so infuriating. 266 00:14:30,720 --> 00:14:33,360 Speaker 1: I remember leaving the scene being like he might get 267 00:14:33,360 --> 00:14:36,760 Speaker 1: it because I'm actually so annoyed being in this room 268 00:14:36,760 --> 00:14:40,640 Speaker 1: with him as John Krasinski rather than Jim Albert. He 269 00:14:40,720 --> 00:14:42,000 Speaker 1: was so good. I remember I was like, hey, can 270 00:14:42,000 --> 00:14:44,160 Speaker 1: you watch my phones? And he did this thing where 271 00:14:44,160 --> 00:14:47,800 Speaker 1: he pretended that like security doors were coming down. He 272 00:14:47,880 --> 00:14:49,800 Speaker 1: was like bird and I was like, dude, can you 273 00:14:49,840 --> 00:14:52,560 Speaker 1: just watch my phone? He was like like all the 274 00:14:53,320 --> 00:14:57,240 Speaker 1: like weird shutting, like eighties wipes, shutting doors. It was. 275 00:14:57,920 --> 00:14:59,800 Speaker 1: It was so incredible and by the end I think 276 00:14:59,840 --> 00:15:02,880 Speaker 1: I broken laughed because he was so infuriating that I 277 00:15:02,920 --> 00:15:04,480 Speaker 1: just had to laugh. He was so good at what 278 00:15:04,520 --> 00:15:08,280 Speaker 1: he was doing. He was making me physically angry. Well, 279 00:15:08,320 --> 00:15:11,240 Speaker 1: it's funny that you mentioned that, because we you know, 280 00:15:11,280 --> 00:15:13,200 Speaker 1: he and I really were the two that came from 281 00:15:13,240 --> 00:15:17,680 Speaker 1: like theater theater, like Shakespeare and check off and and 282 00:15:18,120 --> 00:15:21,600 Speaker 1: throw that in myth. But I'm saying he and I 283 00:15:22,000 --> 00:15:29,400 Speaker 1: in terms of character construction, the physicality was a conscious decision. 284 00:15:31,400 --> 00:15:34,840 Speaker 1: It's just it's just so highbrow theater garbage. Yeah, but 285 00:15:34,920 --> 00:15:37,600 Speaker 1: that's what we're doing. What did you also learn fencing 286 00:15:37,680 --> 00:15:42,080 Speaker 1: at school? Come on, no, I was I wasn't saying 287 00:15:42,120 --> 00:15:44,400 Speaker 1: at all, and it was very odd. But no, I'm 288 00:15:44,400 --> 00:15:47,040 Speaker 1: not saying that, although I will tell you this. Phillis 289 00:15:48,160 --> 00:15:53,440 Speaker 1: was cast and we started filming episodes and she was like, 290 00:15:53,840 --> 00:15:56,120 Speaker 1: I don't know what I'm doing. I can't keep up. 291 00:15:56,160 --> 00:15:58,800 Speaker 1: And she went and bought books on improv and went 292 00:15:58,800 --> 00:16:03,040 Speaker 1: home at night and read them on. These stories are 293 00:16:03,080 --> 00:16:06,720 Speaker 1: amazing and adorable. I mean some of some of my 294 00:16:06,760 --> 00:16:08,680 Speaker 1: favorite moments on the show, or Phillis and stuff. She 295 00:16:08,840 --> 00:16:13,840 Speaker 1: is so funny. God, the relationship with her and Steve 296 00:16:14,160 --> 00:16:16,400 Speaker 1: was because didn't we say that they like they went 297 00:16:16,440 --> 00:16:20,360 Speaker 1: to school high school together, they knew each other. I 298 00:16:20,400 --> 00:16:24,080 Speaker 1: love that, And he would reference how much older she was. 299 00:16:28,280 --> 00:16:30,920 Speaker 1: It's such a good bit. By the way, Jenna tells 300 00:16:30,960 --> 00:16:34,360 Speaker 1: the same story about asking about you. Yeah, she was 301 00:16:34,480 --> 00:16:38,120 Speaker 1: cast because that contractually made her, which is so which 302 00:16:38,200 --> 00:16:43,720 Speaker 1: is so crazy? Um so, I mean, here's the thing 303 00:16:43,840 --> 00:16:47,440 Speaker 1: you're like, the you're like the hunky like. This is 304 00:16:47,440 --> 00:16:50,480 Speaker 1: a great segment. No, I'm not transitioning. I've given up 305 00:16:50,480 --> 00:16:53,520 Speaker 1: on it. You used the word hunky to start a thought. Hunky. 306 00:16:53,760 --> 00:16:56,280 Speaker 1: I don't know what the right word is. But part 307 00:16:56,320 --> 00:16:59,240 Speaker 1: of what we're looking at in the show was like 308 00:16:59,280 --> 00:17:02,880 Speaker 1: the TV Lance Gape at the time was way prettier 309 00:17:02,920 --> 00:17:06,399 Speaker 1: than we were. You look at friends Will and Grace 310 00:17:06,520 --> 00:17:09,919 Speaker 1: and there was a transition with Alison Jones uh and 311 00:17:10,040 --> 00:17:14,640 Speaker 1: freaks and geeks and and wanting to cast people who 312 00:17:14,680 --> 00:17:19,080 Speaker 1: were more real. Were you aware of that at the 313 00:17:19,119 --> 00:17:21,520 Speaker 1: time or did you realize that we were doing something. 314 00:17:21,560 --> 00:17:23,040 Speaker 1: I don't think I would have been cast if it 315 00:17:23,119 --> 00:17:27,359 Speaker 1: wasn't for that. Well, I mean, I think again, I 316 00:17:27,359 --> 00:17:30,040 Speaker 1: saw the English show and I was like I could 317 00:17:30,040 --> 00:17:32,639 Speaker 1: feel the vibe of what they were going for, and 318 00:17:33,040 --> 00:17:36,320 Speaker 1: I knew shooting wise, I immediately felt even from the 319 00:17:36,400 --> 00:17:40,040 Speaker 1: lighting of that probably the test they were just using 320 00:17:40,080 --> 00:17:42,840 Speaker 1: those weird, you know, office lights, which I thought was 321 00:17:42,880 --> 00:17:47,240 Speaker 1: so cool, like everything just looked kind of a bummer 322 00:17:47,640 --> 00:17:50,560 Speaker 1: in a good way. Because that makes sense. No, it 323 00:17:50,600 --> 00:17:54,320 Speaker 1: does make sense. So you get cast in the show, 324 00:17:54,440 --> 00:17:58,359 Speaker 1: You're living in New York, you went to Scranton and shot. 325 00:17:58,680 --> 00:18:01,760 Speaker 1: What was your decision behind at just pure nerd them, 326 00:18:01,760 --> 00:18:05,880 Speaker 1: just super nerdy. So excited to have this part. And 327 00:18:06,080 --> 00:18:09,560 Speaker 1: Greg contacted me to say congrats you of the part. 328 00:18:09,680 --> 00:18:13,280 Speaker 1: And I was so excited. I was twenty three, and 329 00:18:13,359 --> 00:18:14,920 Speaker 1: I was just you know, I think at that time 330 00:18:14,960 --> 00:18:17,960 Speaker 1: in my life my only experiences with was in college 331 00:18:17,960 --> 00:18:22,160 Speaker 1: just sort of like let life happen. Who knows, right, 332 00:18:22,240 --> 00:18:24,560 Speaker 1: And so I was like so excitable, like a puppy. 333 00:18:24,640 --> 00:18:27,160 Speaker 1: And I said to Greg, I was like, I'm gonna 334 00:18:27,200 --> 00:18:30,080 Speaker 1: go to Scranton and I'm gonna do research. And he 335 00:18:30,200 --> 00:18:33,200 Speaker 1: was like, oh cool, Yeah, there's actually a paper company 336 00:18:33,200 --> 00:18:36,560 Speaker 1: there that does like cards and stuff. I gotta see 337 00:18:36,560 --> 00:18:38,880 Speaker 1: that footage because I think they have it. But I 338 00:18:38,920 --> 00:18:41,320 Speaker 1: went and I was so excited. I went with my 339 00:18:41,320 --> 00:18:44,679 Speaker 1: friend Kevin Connors and we drove to Scranton and out 340 00:18:44,720 --> 00:18:49,520 Speaker 1: of his Jeeps sunroof, I had a tiny little camera 341 00:18:50,480 --> 00:18:54,840 Speaker 1: and that shot of the Scranton sign is us driving 342 00:18:54,920 --> 00:18:58,479 Speaker 1: at full speed limit. So I just sort of like 343 00:18:59,040 --> 00:19:01,400 Speaker 1: popped out of the sun roof and was like, oh wait, wait, wait, 344 00:19:01,440 --> 00:19:03,560 Speaker 1: and he didn't really know, so I was like filming 345 00:19:03,560 --> 00:19:06,480 Speaker 1: it as we drove by. Then I went around this 346 00:19:06,520 --> 00:19:10,600 Speaker 1: paper company all day and interviewed the boss, but the 347 00:19:10,680 --> 00:19:15,480 Speaker 1: boss found out that it was based on the English one, 348 00:19:15,640 --> 00:19:19,560 Speaker 1: and then realized that the boss is the boob, and 349 00:19:19,560 --> 00:19:21,240 Speaker 1: I was like, I don't want this to ever air, 350 00:19:21,320 --> 00:19:24,480 Speaker 1: and don't make me look bad, and it was not great. 351 00:19:24,640 --> 00:19:26,520 Speaker 1: And then I came back just thinking that I had 352 00:19:27,040 --> 00:19:30,400 Speaker 1: immersed myself in this thing and really done some research. Man, 353 00:19:30,520 --> 00:19:32,919 Speaker 1: and then Greg goes, can I have that footage? And 354 00:19:32,920 --> 00:19:36,080 Speaker 1: I said sure, and then he said I might use 355 00:19:36,119 --> 00:19:37,840 Speaker 1: it for the opening of the show and I went 356 00:19:38,040 --> 00:19:40,680 Speaker 1: what And he was like, so I have to buy 357 00:19:40,720 --> 00:19:43,239 Speaker 1: it from you. Can I buy your footage? And I 358 00:19:43,320 --> 00:19:45,320 Speaker 1: was like, I don't know, like you can just have 359 00:19:45,400 --> 00:19:47,080 Speaker 1: it again super young. I was like, no, no, you 360 00:19:47,080 --> 00:19:49,720 Speaker 1: could just have it, and so I think he he 361 00:19:49,760 --> 00:19:51,200 Speaker 1: was like, no, we gotta buy it, and I think 362 00:19:51,200 --> 00:19:54,840 Speaker 1: he bought it for I think like a thousand dollars. 363 00:19:55,000 --> 00:19:57,600 Speaker 1: Are you so you just did a buyout? Straight buyout? 364 00:19:57,720 --> 00:20:02,000 Speaker 1: Straight buyout? Yeah? Again, it was like a decisions so 365 00:20:02,200 --> 00:20:06,880 Speaker 1: dumb soul that was would have been the greatest investment 366 00:20:06,920 --> 00:20:12,240 Speaker 1: in my life. No, truly, I know that is insane. 367 00:20:12,600 --> 00:20:15,240 Speaker 1: You know about the sign, right, has anyone ever told 368 00:20:15,240 --> 00:20:19,399 Speaker 1: you this? The sign that you got out of the 369 00:20:19,520 --> 00:20:21,920 Speaker 1: sun roof and filmed. You know, it's not on the 370 00:20:22,000 --> 00:20:26,639 Speaker 1: highway anymore. It's in the mall because too many people 371 00:20:26,640 --> 00:20:30,160 Speaker 1: were stopping along the highway to take pictures by it. 372 00:20:30,160 --> 00:20:32,359 Speaker 1: It is now that sign is now not on the 373 00:20:32,440 --> 00:20:57,600 Speaker 1: highway to Grant because it was a safety because safety issue. 374 00:20:37,119 --> 00:21:02,879 Speaker 1: How Greg talked about he felt like his job for 375 00:21:02,920 --> 00:21:06,760 Speaker 1: the pilot. For him, it was about creating the world 376 00:21:07,400 --> 00:21:11,159 Speaker 1: as opposed to the writing of the words. So so 377 00:21:11,240 --> 00:21:14,199 Speaker 1: many things that happened in terms of remember Kappas and 378 00:21:14,240 --> 00:21:17,280 Speaker 1: our thirty minutes of busy work. Oh my god, Yeah, 379 00:21:17,560 --> 00:21:21,159 Speaker 1: I remember that. I totally like, you know, it was 380 00:21:21,200 --> 00:21:23,440 Speaker 1: like an acting exercise. I made fun of you practing pool, 381 00:21:23,440 --> 00:21:25,560 Speaker 1: but really it's it's true. I remember that being like 382 00:21:26,880 --> 00:21:28,560 Speaker 1: so nerdy, and then by the end of it you 383 00:21:28,600 --> 00:21:30,440 Speaker 1: were kind of into it. You were kind of dialed in, 384 00:21:30,920 --> 00:21:33,720 Speaker 1: like ming in the papers and and he talked about 385 00:21:33,760 --> 00:21:36,960 Speaker 1: wanting to do that because he wanted the space to 386 00:21:37,040 --> 00:21:39,959 Speaker 1: feel lived in and we had been there for a 387 00:21:39,960 --> 00:21:43,680 Speaker 1: long time. Wo I thought he was just trying to 388 00:21:43,720 --> 00:21:45,680 Speaker 1: get us out of our heads to not think about 389 00:21:45,760 --> 00:21:51,440 Speaker 1: lines thirty minutes of busy work. That's right, He's he's 390 00:21:51,560 --> 00:21:54,399 Speaker 1: the most amazing energy. But you know, don't you feel 391 00:21:54,400 --> 00:21:57,119 Speaker 1: like nobody else could have directed that pilot? Yes? Is 392 00:21:57,119 --> 00:21:59,760 Speaker 1: that what you were getting at I stopped your flow? No, 393 00:22:00,040 --> 00:22:03,480 Speaker 1: I just think you know, that was one element the 394 00:22:03,600 --> 00:22:06,920 Speaker 1: lighting that you talked about. Um, the set design was 395 00:22:06,960 --> 00:22:11,280 Speaker 1: amazing set design. They talked to me also about that 396 00:22:11,359 --> 00:22:14,400 Speaker 1: the architecture of the space was important. That you knew 397 00:22:14,880 --> 00:22:19,320 Speaker 1: where Jim and Dwight's clump was relative to Michael, relative 398 00:22:19,359 --> 00:22:22,240 Speaker 1: to accounting and Pam and all of that stuff. That 399 00:22:22,960 --> 00:22:25,520 Speaker 1: It's totally true. It works. It was like some of 400 00:22:25,520 --> 00:22:27,520 Speaker 1: the story, I mean so much of the stories being 401 00:22:27,520 --> 00:22:29,920 Speaker 1: told in the camera, Like when the camera whips to 402 00:22:30,040 --> 00:22:33,199 Speaker 1: a geographic region, you already know who you're going to. 403 00:22:33,480 --> 00:22:38,119 Speaker 1: Like you, we always knew where you were. Always everybody 404 00:22:38,240 --> 00:22:40,800 Speaker 1: we're checking out fantasy football. You had such a great 405 00:22:40,840 --> 00:22:45,720 Speaker 1: little like secret hole back there. Yeah, I know, never bothered, 406 00:22:45,840 --> 00:22:49,199 Speaker 1: never paid attention to do you know? Gregre on the 407 00:22:49,240 --> 00:22:53,159 Speaker 1: show during this he finally said something to me that 408 00:22:53,200 --> 00:22:56,919 Speaker 1: no one ever said to me before. When a great 409 00:22:56,960 --> 00:23:00,240 Speaker 1: scene was written that didn't really have an end, I 410 00:23:00,280 --> 00:23:04,159 Speaker 1: would like, um, like a wide receiver to a quarterback. 411 00:23:04,600 --> 00:23:08,480 Speaker 1: I would give Matt Selling a little nod, right, so 412 00:23:08,640 --> 00:23:11,359 Speaker 1: you guys would do your thing. Matt soon would whip 413 00:23:11,359 --> 00:23:14,359 Speaker 1: over to me if I had an idea. Greg told 414 00:23:14,359 --> 00:23:16,960 Speaker 1: me that when they were having trouble ending a scene, 415 00:23:17,160 --> 00:23:19,360 Speaker 1: Greg would say, what was Brian doing? Where is the 416 00:23:19,440 --> 00:23:22,440 Speaker 1: where is the thing? Yeah I was. I'm pretty proud 417 00:23:22,440 --> 00:23:24,520 Speaker 1: of that one. Well he's sound conceited, but yeah, no, 418 00:23:24,560 --> 00:23:26,520 Speaker 1: you should be. I mean, I am no, but I am. 419 00:23:26,800 --> 00:23:28,800 Speaker 1: What Let's think back what you just said. When a 420 00:23:28,880 --> 00:23:32,560 Speaker 1: scene was going great, I'd give Matt a nod and 421 00:23:32,600 --> 00:23:35,679 Speaker 1: say I'll make it better. You also said like a 422 00:23:35,720 --> 00:23:39,399 Speaker 1: receiver to a quarterback. Yeah, like a lot of people 423 00:23:39,400 --> 00:23:42,520 Speaker 1: tuned out on that one. M And if they didn't 424 00:23:42,520 --> 00:23:45,200 Speaker 1: tune out on the acting school, and I wasn't properly trained, 425 00:23:45,240 --> 00:23:48,120 Speaker 1: and you know that. You think they're long gone by now. 426 00:23:48,119 --> 00:23:50,280 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, most of them left on the acting thing. 427 00:23:50,320 --> 00:23:53,800 Speaker 1: That's why I'm feeling free right now. Yeah, but it's funny. 428 00:23:53,840 --> 00:23:56,480 Speaker 1: Yeah you said the other thing I remember. I remember 429 00:23:57,480 --> 00:24:00,480 Speaker 1: when they told me that Randall and Matt came from Survivor, 430 00:24:01,000 --> 00:24:03,919 Speaker 1: and I thought that was the coolest thing ever. And 431 00:24:03,960 --> 00:24:07,840 Speaker 1: then on an episode two, I remember saying to Matt, like, 432 00:24:08,200 --> 00:24:09,439 Speaker 1: just let me know where you want to be, and 433 00:24:09,440 --> 00:24:11,560 Speaker 1: he was like, no, no no, no, don't, that's my job. 434 00:24:11,840 --> 00:24:14,440 Speaker 1: Don't tell me where you're going to be. It will 435 00:24:14,480 --> 00:24:18,120 Speaker 1: make it feel more alive. And if we hadn't had them, 436 00:24:18,200 --> 00:24:22,160 Speaker 1: the guys from Survivor whose job it was to find 437 00:24:22,359 --> 00:24:26,120 Speaker 1: behavior that was happening because it wasn't technically scripted, I 438 00:24:26,160 --> 00:24:29,120 Speaker 1: think that might be a weird secret element that people 439 00:24:29,160 --> 00:24:32,040 Speaker 1: don't realize, Like people don't realize that like Randal and 440 00:24:32,080 --> 00:24:35,800 Speaker 1: Matt would dive across the table knowing full well that 441 00:24:35,880 --> 00:24:38,720 Speaker 1: not only was an injury imminent, but that the take 442 00:24:38,800 --> 00:24:43,520 Speaker 1: would only be point two seconds because the camera would 443 00:24:43,600 --> 00:24:46,080 Speaker 1: kind of catch someone and then smashed to the ground, 444 00:24:46,240 --> 00:24:49,359 Speaker 1: But that moment would feel so much more alive. And 445 00:24:49,400 --> 00:24:52,840 Speaker 1: I remember Randall would sometimes say like, no, I will 446 00:24:52,880 --> 00:24:56,320 Speaker 1: not reposition myself for a better shot, because then it 447 00:24:56,359 --> 00:24:58,280 Speaker 1: will show that we were aware of what you guys 448 00:24:58,280 --> 00:24:59,760 Speaker 1: were doing and we can't. And I was like, wow, 449 00:24:59,800 --> 00:25:02,440 Speaker 1: that is so high level. That is that was next 450 00:25:02,480 --> 00:25:06,600 Speaker 1: level stuff. Their their adage was everything that makes it 451 00:25:06,680 --> 00:25:11,240 Speaker 1: harder makes it better. Wow, that's cool. Yeah, did you 452 00:25:11,280 --> 00:25:13,280 Speaker 1: have a conscious to sit or did you have a 453 00:25:13,320 --> 00:25:18,399 Speaker 1: conversation with Greg about Jim's relationship to the camera. Yes, 454 00:25:18,920 --> 00:25:23,639 Speaker 1: I remember talking to Greg about it, and I kind 455 00:25:23,640 --> 00:25:27,160 Speaker 1: of remember a version of like Mike Sure talking about 456 00:25:27,200 --> 00:25:29,920 Speaker 1: it a lot, because I remember Mike loved those looks 457 00:25:29,920 --> 00:25:32,080 Speaker 1: early on. How awesome is that? By the way, I 458 00:25:32,119 --> 00:25:37,440 Speaker 1: don't think that's ever happened. Like every take seven writers 459 00:25:37,440 --> 00:25:39,440 Speaker 1: would blow out of that door that we never you know, 460 00:25:39,440 --> 00:25:41,120 Speaker 1: because that was the writer's room that would never say 461 00:25:41,160 --> 00:25:43,520 Speaker 1: what it is, and they would blow out and be like, 462 00:25:43,560 --> 00:25:46,880 Speaker 1: all right, that was amazing, and then cut that part 463 00:25:46,880 --> 00:25:48,800 Speaker 1: because what you said was way funnier and like we 464 00:25:48,840 --> 00:25:51,359 Speaker 1: always did the script many times, but then they started 465 00:25:51,359 --> 00:25:54,280 Speaker 1: tweaking the script as we went. It was so alive. 466 00:25:54,359 --> 00:25:56,920 Speaker 1: I felt like I almost felt like you were doing 467 00:25:56,960 --> 00:26:00,159 Speaker 1: live theater anyway. But I remember Mike coming in that 468 00:26:00,280 --> 00:26:03,560 Speaker 1: amazing laugh several times when I looked to camera and 469 00:26:03,560 --> 00:26:04,760 Speaker 1: he was like, that was so great. And then I 470 00:26:04,760 --> 00:26:08,080 Speaker 1: think it started to become let's not over use it, 471 00:26:08,119 --> 00:26:10,840 Speaker 1: but it's a it's a really important story point. And 472 00:26:11,440 --> 00:26:13,400 Speaker 1: I think what I remember Greg and I talking about 473 00:26:13,480 --> 00:26:15,520 Speaker 1: is how I was the window to the audience. I 474 00:26:15,560 --> 00:26:19,080 Speaker 1: was the character who right when you were thinking this 475 00:26:19,119 --> 00:26:21,199 Speaker 1: was all ridiculous, I would turn to you and go, 476 00:26:21,280 --> 00:26:23,560 Speaker 1: you're right, this is ridiculous. Or I would load it 477 00:26:23,600 --> 00:26:26,080 Speaker 1: by saying like, wait till you see what's about to happen. 478 00:26:26,760 --> 00:26:29,480 Speaker 1: And it's that was really interesting to me. I thought 479 00:26:29,520 --> 00:26:32,840 Speaker 1: that was so fascinating and smart, and I didn't think 480 00:26:32,840 --> 00:26:34,600 Speaker 1: of it. See, I'm not conceded. I will say other 481 00:26:34,680 --> 00:26:38,359 Speaker 1: people had good ideas, not just a humble brag. No, 482 00:26:38,480 --> 00:26:41,960 Speaker 1: it's not no, not like when we were winning the game, 483 00:26:42,480 --> 00:26:48,680 Speaker 1: I said, put me in coach god, um, so talk 484 00:26:48,720 --> 00:26:51,320 Speaker 1: a little bit about you're a fan of the British show. 485 00:26:52,680 --> 00:26:55,560 Speaker 1: We start work on a ratings are not good. But 486 00:26:55,640 --> 00:26:58,400 Speaker 1: are you feeling good about what we were doing? Oh 487 00:26:58,480 --> 00:27:01,000 Speaker 1: my god, yeah, I think you know, shooting the pilot, 488 00:27:01,040 --> 00:27:02,800 Speaker 1: we were all a little nervous, right, I think so 489 00:27:02,880 --> 00:27:04,280 Speaker 1: we all felt like, oh my god, we're gonna be 490 00:27:04,320 --> 00:27:06,520 Speaker 1: judged on the actual British script. At least that's what 491 00:27:06,560 --> 00:27:09,119 Speaker 1: I felt. But I was just so happy to be there. 492 00:27:10,800 --> 00:27:15,320 Speaker 1: I knew the group was working really well. I knew 493 00:27:15,320 --> 00:27:18,080 Speaker 1: the show like are like you said, the world was 494 00:27:18,160 --> 00:27:20,680 Speaker 1: really good, the vibe was really good, all the actors 495 00:27:20,720 --> 00:27:25,000 Speaker 1: were incredible, And I gotta be honest, it was probably 496 00:27:25,040 --> 00:27:26,680 Speaker 1: one of the reasons why I was able to keep 497 00:27:26,680 --> 00:27:29,520 Speaker 1: a level head, because I didn't care if the show 498 00:27:29,600 --> 00:27:34,440 Speaker 1: did well or not. Because I asked, um, what's his name? 499 00:27:34,480 --> 00:27:38,800 Speaker 1: Oh my god, Um the executive that came every Friday, 500 00:27:39,119 --> 00:27:41,880 Speaker 1: and that like super handsome dude. I'm gonna remember his name. 501 00:27:41,920 --> 00:27:44,639 Speaker 1: He was so nice. No, no, no, he's super handsome 502 00:27:44,640 --> 00:27:51,880 Speaker 1: as well. No, Jeff and Gold I gotta I gotta 503 00:27:51,880 --> 00:27:55,080 Speaker 1: take a nap after pulling that. Jeff was the nicest guy, 504 00:27:55,200 --> 00:27:57,600 Speaker 1: but don't you remember he would come down super nice, 505 00:27:57,800 --> 00:28:00,879 Speaker 1: dressed well, handsome, ass guy, and I'd be like, what's up, 506 00:28:00,960 --> 00:28:03,960 Speaker 1: Jap and he's like, oh, great, I love this episode. 507 00:28:03,960 --> 00:28:06,720 Speaker 1: This will be the last one. And I was like oh, 508 00:28:06,800 --> 00:28:08,680 Speaker 1: and he's like, yeah, it's just not getting the ratings 509 00:28:08,720 --> 00:28:11,080 Speaker 1: and the and the network doesn't get it. I love it, 510 00:28:11,119 --> 00:28:12,920 Speaker 1: but this is gonna be the last one. He said 511 00:28:12,960 --> 00:28:16,480 Speaker 1: that every week of the first season, those first six 512 00:28:16,480 --> 00:28:21,560 Speaker 1: are six total, just every week, and so on the 513 00:28:21,720 --> 00:28:25,480 Speaker 1: like fifth week, I said to him, can you make 514 00:28:25,480 --> 00:28:27,119 Speaker 1: me a DVD so I can give it to my 515 00:28:27,160 --> 00:28:29,199 Speaker 1: mom so she at least knows that what I was 516 00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:31,560 Speaker 1: doing out here was real and that I wasn't like 517 00:28:32,040 --> 00:28:35,320 Speaker 1: living under a bridge somewhere. And he said, yes, I 518 00:28:35,359 --> 00:28:38,400 Speaker 1: still have that DVD that he wrote hand wrote on 519 00:28:38,440 --> 00:28:43,320 Speaker 1: it the office episodes one through six. So that's kind 520 00:28:43,320 --> 00:28:45,760 Speaker 1: of all I cared about. Was like, I definitely want 521 00:28:45,760 --> 00:28:47,400 Speaker 1: to show my friends because this will be one of 522 00:28:47,400 --> 00:28:50,760 Speaker 1: those things that's brilliantly canceled. And I want to show 523 00:28:50,840 --> 00:28:54,160 Speaker 1: my mom and I want her to know that I'm okay. 524 00:28:54,200 --> 00:28:56,800 Speaker 1: But I'll tell you I do know when it changed 525 00:28:56,840 --> 00:28:59,560 Speaker 1: for me was I used to go to this same 526 00:28:59,600 --> 00:29:04,080 Speaker 1: diner every morning with my buddy Danny and on a Wednesday, 527 00:29:04,120 --> 00:29:05,840 Speaker 1: because we used to air on Tuesdays. I think that 528 00:29:05,880 --> 00:29:09,160 Speaker 1: at that time I walked in on a Wednesday morning 529 00:29:09,520 --> 00:29:13,160 Speaker 1: and the same diner, same people, We're now looking up 530 00:29:13,200 --> 00:29:14,920 Speaker 1: and being like, that's that's to do from that show 531 00:29:14,960 --> 00:29:17,480 Speaker 1: and it was sexual harassment had aired the night before. 532 00:29:18,360 --> 00:29:20,920 Speaker 1: I at least that was my moment that I really 533 00:29:21,200 --> 00:29:25,280 Speaker 1: knew something had changed, like people were watching and it started. 534 00:29:25,280 --> 00:29:27,760 Speaker 1: It was weird because I was really happy about it, obviously, 535 00:29:27,760 --> 00:29:30,800 Speaker 1: but I was also a little freaked out because that's 536 00:29:30,840 --> 00:29:32,959 Speaker 1: sort of like secret club that we had was no 537 00:29:33,000 --> 00:29:36,560 Speaker 1: longer secret. Obviously, it was great that the Secret Cub 538 00:29:36,640 --> 00:29:38,520 Speaker 1: was not secret, but it was like a big transition 539 00:29:38,520 --> 00:29:40,200 Speaker 1: for me. I remember that it took me a while 540 00:29:40,240 --> 00:29:45,280 Speaker 1: too that people knew who I was. Was very weird. 541 00:29:46,080 --> 00:29:47,760 Speaker 1: I also remember this moment I was walking here in 542 00:29:47,800 --> 00:29:52,640 Speaker 1: New York and I was walking through and this guy 543 00:29:53,080 --> 00:29:54,880 Speaker 1: put his hand up real fast in my face and 544 00:29:54,920 --> 00:29:57,080 Speaker 1: I thought I was getting assaulted. And he was like, 545 00:29:57,120 --> 00:29:59,760 Speaker 1: you're on my iPod, dude, And I was like, what 546 00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:04,360 Speaker 1: is an iPod? What are you showing me? And there 547 00:30:04,520 --> 00:30:07,640 Speaker 1: was my dumb face on his whatever. It was like 548 00:30:07,680 --> 00:30:11,440 Speaker 1: an inch by an inch or two. Video iPod, Big Dial, 549 00:30:12,040 --> 00:30:16,160 Speaker 1: Big Dial. That was trippy for me. Interesting. And then 550 00:30:16,240 --> 00:30:19,760 Speaker 1: the third and final thing was when we got parodied 551 00:30:19,800 --> 00:30:23,680 Speaker 1: on SNL. Remember Fred Armison did a we Can Update piece. 552 00:30:24,240 --> 00:30:26,800 Speaker 1: He was pretending to be Steve Jobs or was he 553 00:30:26,840 --> 00:30:28,720 Speaker 1: talking about Steve Jobs. I think he was pretending to 554 00:30:28,720 --> 00:30:31,160 Speaker 1: be Steve Jobs, and he kept saying iPod, and he 555 00:30:31,200 --> 00:30:35,480 Speaker 1: was going iPod the office at Apple, the office, iPod, 556 00:30:36,040 --> 00:30:38,760 Speaker 1: iPod the office. And I remember that laughing really hard 557 00:30:38,760 --> 00:30:41,040 Speaker 1: because I loved everything Fred did, but I was also like, whoa, 558 00:30:41,480 --> 00:30:44,520 Speaker 1: if we're being parodied on SNL, this is big, I 559 00:30:44,560 --> 00:30:47,800 Speaker 1: think for me. The first Christmas episode that we did, 560 00:30:48,160 --> 00:30:51,160 Speaker 1: that's kind of when the video iPod came out. There 561 00:30:51,200 --> 00:30:54,560 Speaker 1: was a deal with Apple as you as you reference 562 00:30:54,640 --> 00:30:56,400 Speaker 1: that we were going to be on there, and that's 563 00:30:56,440 --> 00:30:59,160 Speaker 1: when we were in our second season. It was like 564 00:30:59,240 --> 00:31:05,560 Speaker 1: six episode, four episodes, one more Zero Confidence. And then 565 00:31:05,600 --> 00:31:09,440 Speaker 1: I remember Greg saying it all. You know, I think 566 00:31:09,480 --> 00:31:11,200 Speaker 1: a lot of people get to say, you know, we 567 00:31:11,240 --> 00:31:12,880 Speaker 1: owe it all to our fans, but I think we 568 00:31:12,960 --> 00:31:15,120 Speaker 1: might be the only show who actually owes it all 569 00:31:15,120 --> 00:31:19,200 Speaker 1: to our fans. Because Greg told me that when people 570 00:31:19,320 --> 00:31:23,440 Speaker 1: started paying for shows that they could watch for free 571 00:31:23,560 --> 00:31:27,000 Speaker 1: on their TV. Then they had to pick up the 572 00:31:27,000 --> 00:31:29,320 Speaker 1: show and I remember being like, what that was just 573 00:31:29,360 --> 00:31:33,600 Speaker 1: so mind blowing to me. Yeah, the risk taking that 574 00:31:33,680 --> 00:31:38,040 Speaker 1: was happening from day one, because imagine the conversations that 575 00:31:38,080 --> 00:31:39,840 Speaker 1: were going on at the network, which again I know 576 00:31:39,880 --> 00:31:42,239 Speaker 1: the network totally was hands off, because at the end 577 00:31:42,240 --> 00:31:43,640 Speaker 1: of the day, I think they were sort of like, 578 00:31:43,720 --> 00:31:48,720 Speaker 1: we put the screws to you, it succeeded even despite us, 579 00:31:49,080 --> 00:31:50,960 Speaker 1: and then now let's just leave you alone and make 580 00:31:50,960 --> 00:31:53,240 Speaker 1: your magic. Which I remember that story. Did Greg tell 581 00:31:53,280 --> 00:31:55,680 Speaker 1: you that. I think it was around sexual or whatever 582 00:31:56,120 --> 00:31:59,240 Speaker 1: was the big hit. I know I remember as sexual happrassment, 583 00:31:59,280 --> 00:32:02,080 Speaker 1: but maybe it was something else. One of our table reads, 584 00:32:02,120 --> 00:32:04,040 Speaker 1: there were like six people from the network and they're 585 00:32:04,040 --> 00:32:07,200 Speaker 1: always used to be one and after that table read, 586 00:32:07,240 --> 00:32:10,920 Speaker 1: he was like nope, and he supposedly said to them, 587 00:32:11,160 --> 00:32:14,200 Speaker 1: do not come back or I quit, Like, now that 588 00:32:14,240 --> 00:32:17,280 Speaker 1: we have proven ourselves, you don't get to change the formula. 589 00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:20,440 Speaker 1: That to me, especially now that I've had more experience 590 00:32:20,480 --> 00:32:23,360 Speaker 1: in this business, I think it is not only rare, 591 00:32:23,560 --> 00:32:26,800 Speaker 1: it's damn near impossible to have a leader like that. 592 00:32:27,640 --> 00:32:29,440 Speaker 1: And again he comes across as the nicest guy ever. 593 00:32:29,440 --> 00:32:32,200 Speaker 1: But to have someone who's willing to stake their career 594 00:32:32,480 --> 00:32:36,440 Speaker 1: on big swings like that, and then you realize, yeah, 595 00:32:36,520 --> 00:32:38,880 Speaker 1: that was going on since day one. They were taking 596 00:32:38,960 --> 00:32:43,600 Speaker 1: risks from day one. Yes, Lee Eisenberg told me that 597 00:32:43,760 --> 00:32:48,200 Speaker 1: UM dinner party. He said, it came back really well. 598 00:32:48,320 --> 00:32:51,120 Speaker 1: The writers had come up with this great idea. He 599 00:32:51,280 --> 00:32:53,880 Speaker 1: and Jeane had written this episode and it came back 600 00:32:53,960 --> 00:32:58,600 Speaker 1: and the network called network executive and we didn't know 601 00:32:58,600 --> 00:33:04,320 Speaker 1: who it was. Um, great scrapt so funny, really really funny. 602 00:33:04,720 --> 00:33:09,800 Speaker 1: It's really dark and Greg was like, yep, I mean 603 00:33:09,880 --> 00:33:15,120 Speaker 1: it's it's really dark. Greg was like, h yeah, it is, yeah, 604 00:33:15,160 --> 00:33:20,080 Speaker 1: but I mean it's like it's real dark. Greg's like, 605 00:33:20,480 --> 00:33:25,720 Speaker 1: m guys, anything else, Like nope, okay, thanks for calling 606 00:33:25,880 --> 00:33:28,120 Speaker 1: hung out amazing and that's like some Jedi minds. Yeah, 607 00:33:28,160 --> 00:33:31,680 Speaker 1: and Lee was like again from Greg, just the most 608 00:33:31,960 --> 00:33:35,280 Speaker 1: baller like but that's what I mean. It's like I've 609 00:33:35,320 --> 00:33:39,080 Speaker 1: now like directed movies, and even in my directing movies, 610 00:33:39,200 --> 00:33:42,400 Speaker 1: I find myself totally going with that of like, yeah, 611 00:33:42,640 --> 00:33:44,840 Speaker 1: you know what, maybe I'll try that, or like he 612 00:33:45,160 --> 00:33:48,000 Speaker 1: just sat on the wall and was like, you will 613 00:33:48,080 --> 00:33:51,680 Speaker 1: not pass it. Was amazing. But that's what I mean 614 00:33:51,760 --> 00:33:54,400 Speaker 1: is like that, it's it's incredible that that's who we 615 00:33:54,440 --> 00:33:58,560 Speaker 1: had on the wall, because even a impressive showrunner would 616 00:33:58,560 --> 00:34:00,600 Speaker 1: have come back and be like, dos in, guys, we 617 00:34:00,680 --> 00:34:03,600 Speaker 1: gotta shoot one other version where it's not as dark, 618 00:34:03,760 --> 00:34:26,439 Speaker 1: and he was like, no, yeah, um, your relationship with Rain, 619 00:34:26,640 --> 00:34:29,200 Speaker 1: Jim and Dwight. One of the things that we've been 620 00:34:29,200 --> 00:34:33,839 Speaker 1: talking about are like comedy duos, right, And we talked 621 00:34:33,840 --> 00:34:36,960 Speaker 1: about the ensemble, and it is like the greater ensemble, 622 00:34:37,400 --> 00:34:43,000 Speaker 1: but also like the pairings, like the accountants, Michael and Dwight, 623 00:34:43,640 --> 00:34:46,920 Speaker 1: Dwight and Jim, you know, and how all of those 624 00:34:46,960 --> 00:34:50,560 Speaker 1: things the smaller groups work together. That's when I think 625 00:34:50,600 --> 00:34:55,320 Speaker 1: the show became stratospheric, is when you guys started having 626 00:34:55,840 --> 00:34:59,520 Speaker 1: real storylines, you know what I mean. Like I remember 627 00:34:59,560 --> 00:35:02,439 Speaker 1: when Creed had a big storyline for the first time, 628 00:35:02,440 --> 00:35:04,560 Speaker 1: and I was like, this is it, man, This is 629 00:35:04,560 --> 00:35:08,239 Speaker 1: like painting pictures with the four primary colors or using 630 00:35:08,239 --> 00:35:10,400 Speaker 1: everything you have in the palette, and how much more beautiful. 631 00:35:10,440 --> 00:35:14,800 Speaker 1: I remember feeling that the show is like genuinely lifting 632 00:35:14,800 --> 00:35:17,960 Speaker 1: off because like everyone, you know, all those bullpen scenes 633 00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:22,600 Speaker 1: got so much funnier when everybody was involved, like Diversity Day, 634 00:35:22,680 --> 00:35:26,520 Speaker 1: Diversity that which was the second episode, but it's crazy. 635 00:35:26,760 --> 00:35:28,640 Speaker 1: That's when I knew that we were doing something different 636 00:35:28,640 --> 00:35:30,920 Speaker 1: than the British. I might have even said it's a 637 00:35:31,160 --> 00:35:33,239 Speaker 1: Rain or Jenna. I was like, WHOA. Like the fact 638 00:35:33,239 --> 00:35:38,040 Speaker 1: that we're being this sort of on the edge and 639 00:35:38,080 --> 00:35:41,279 Speaker 1: it's so funny and making such a great social commentary 640 00:35:41,440 --> 00:35:45,080 Speaker 1: using Steve as the the sort of boob character. It 641 00:35:45,160 --> 00:35:48,759 Speaker 1: was so next level like that. That's when I realized, like, oh, 642 00:35:48,800 --> 00:35:51,560 Speaker 1: if I wasn't on this show, I would be obsessed 643 00:35:51,640 --> 00:35:55,719 Speaker 1: with this show. I remember when Larry Wilmore said my 644 00:35:55,800 --> 00:35:57,560 Speaker 1: name is Mr Brown, he goes, I'm not calling you that. 645 00:35:57,680 --> 00:36:01,000 Speaker 1: I lost my mind. That joke so good. That was 646 00:36:01,040 --> 00:36:04,000 Speaker 1: b J wrote that, right, yea, so good. But you 647 00:36:04,360 --> 00:36:08,320 Speaker 1: um the Gem and Dwight stuff, and specifically what everybody 648 00:36:08,360 --> 00:36:11,520 Speaker 1: talks about are the pranks and the two of you 649 00:36:11,560 --> 00:36:14,840 Speaker 1: guys working together. Why do you think you two worked 650 00:36:14,880 --> 00:36:19,000 Speaker 1: so well together. I don't know either the characters or 651 00:36:19,040 --> 00:36:22,080 Speaker 1: the you know, the actors, you and Rain well. I mean, 652 00:36:22,120 --> 00:36:26,480 Speaker 1: I think obviously there's some version of the old adage 653 00:36:26,520 --> 00:36:31,360 Speaker 1: of polar opposites are always great. You know, whatever happens 654 00:36:31,360 --> 00:36:34,919 Speaker 1: when you put two polar opposite characters together is sort 655 00:36:34,920 --> 00:36:37,719 Speaker 1: of magical because it's the RT couple, you know what 656 00:36:37,719 --> 00:36:40,239 Speaker 1: I mean. And I think that the beauty of our 657 00:36:40,280 --> 00:36:44,279 Speaker 1: show that I really remember being so special is when 658 00:36:45,520 --> 00:36:49,719 Speaker 1: pretty early on, they would allow Rain's character to have 659 00:36:49,840 --> 00:36:53,000 Speaker 1: heart and he felt bad for him at times, and 660 00:36:53,040 --> 00:36:56,840 Speaker 1: then he totally not make you feel bad for him 661 00:36:56,920 --> 00:37:00,320 Speaker 1: because he'd be doing crazy stuff. But I remember that 662 00:37:00,320 --> 00:37:03,320 Speaker 1: that really helped me with the pranks because it wasn't 663 00:37:03,360 --> 00:37:05,759 Speaker 1: just being mean to him because pranks are easy, you 664 00:37:05,760 --> 00:37:07,160 Speaker 1: know what I mean. I think pranks are kind of 665 00:37:07,160 --> 00:37:09,759 Speaker 1: the easiest form of jokes. I don't mean on our show, 666 00:37:09,800 --> 00:37:13,319 Speaker 1: I'm saying, like doing a prank to someone because it's 667 00:37:13,320 --> 00:37:15,520 Speaker 1: fishing a barrow kind of you know. But I think 668 00:37:15,560 --> 00:37:18,439 Speaker 1: that what the writers did so well was make those 669 00:37:18,480 --> 00:37:22,239 Speaker 1: pranks kind of loving and like brotherly, Like there was 670 00:37:22,280 --> 00:37:24,480 Speaker 1: a brother aspect to it that I think made them 671 00:37:24,520 --> 00:37:28,320 Speaker 1: so great because I wasn't being mean. I was doing 672 00:37:28,400 --> 00:37:30,359 Speaker 1: something that I knew he kind of got to kick 673 00:37:30,400 --> 00:37:32,560 Speaker 1: out of two. I don't know that that's my theory 674 00:37:32,600 --> 00:37:34,799 Speaker 1: on it, but I think that he was everything I 675 00:37:34,840 --> 00:37:38,040 Speaker 1: didn't want to be or so I thought we were 676 00:37:38,760 --> 00:37:41,640 Speaker 1: in the scenes together coming from two totally different places, 677 00:37:41,640 --> 00:37:44,879 Speaker 1: and that's what was so cool, like the weird explosive thing. 678 00:37:45,480 --> 00:37:46,960 Speaker 1: And it was one of those things where you know, 679 00:37:47,120 --> 00:37:50,960 Speaker 1: I think that when you put yourself as an audience 680 00:37:51,000 --> 00:37:53,560 Speaker 1: member and you're like, I think this is funny. I 681 00:37:53,640 --> 00:37:55,960 Speaker 1: knew this is what I would want to see, is 682 00:37:56,000 --> 00:37:58,120 Speaker 1: me trying to tell him something and him being annoying. 683 00:37:58,280 --> 00:38:01,040 Speaker 1: Or the best is when we teamed up, when we 684 00:38:01,040 --> 00:38:03,200 Speaker 1: did when we did stuff together and we were a team, 685 00:38:03,920 --> 00:38:06,040 Speaker 1: that was great. That stuff was amazing, like those those 686 00:38:06,040 --> 00:38:08,080 Speaker 1: talking heads where we do together. Don't think I was 687 00:38:08,120 --> 00:38:11,239 Speaker 1: professional once in those because when I sat in a 688 00:38:11,320 --> 00:38:15,080 Speaker 1: chair next to him, that weird energy radiated off of 689 00:38:15,120 --> 00:38:18,040 Speaker 1: him and I just started laughing. I'm a crier laugher, 690 00:38:18,360 --> 00:38:21,399 Speaker 1: and I had like that high pitched girl laughs. That's 691 00:38:21,440 --> 00:38:24,960 Speaker 1: what made Rain so good is he he was able 692 00:38:25,000 --> 00:38:28,560 Speaker 1: to remember. We always used to laugh because he had 693 00:38:28,600 --> 00:38:30,799 Speaker 1: this look on his face that he'd give to me 694 00:38:31,200 --> 00:38:34,719 Speaker 1: that would make me break every time. And by the way, 695 00:38:35,000 --> 00:38:37,560 Speaker 1: it's like his face didn't even move, but like some 696 00:38:37,719 --> 00:38:39,640 Speaker 1: energy came out and I would laugh every time he 697 00:38:39,680 --> 00:38:42,799 Speaker 1: would do this like really funny, kind of like dumb 698 00:38:42,880 --> 00:38:44,719 Speaker 1: face at me, and I would laugh every time, and 699 00:38:44,960 --> 00:38:48,799 Speaker 1: it's funny. It's almost like he, of all people, made 700 00:38:48,840 --> 00:38:50,919 Speaker 1: the lines feel like improv. Him and Steve I think 701 00:38:50,920 --> 00:38:53,239 Speaker 1: made the lines feel the most like they were improving. 702 00:38:54,000 --> 00:38:56,400 Speaker 1: You know, you're the part of my favorite moment of 703 00:38:56,440 --> 00:39:00,160 Speaker 1: shooting ever. People always asked me, what's the hard us 704 00:39:00,160 --> 00:39:03,160 Speaker 1: you ever laughed on set? Without a doubt, it's when 705 00:39:03,239 --> 00:39:05,279 Speaker 1: you sat on his lap. When you sat on his 706 00:39:05,360 --> 00:39:07,920 Speaker 1: lap and his improv with you. I think you can 707 00:39:07,920 --> 00:39:10,520 Speaker 1: see it on the out takes, right, Oh yeah, it's 708 00:39:10,560 --> 00:39:13,720 Speaker 1: the funniest. And by the way, to your point again, 709 00:39:14,480 --> 00:39:16,160 Speaker 1: you're right they always went to you for a button 710 00:39:16,200 --> 00:39:18,279 Speaker 1: because anytime they went to me for a button and 711 00:39:18,400 --> 00:39:20,919 Speaker 1: Steve was doing improv, I was not there physically not. 712 00:39:21,239 --> 00:39:23,600 Speaker 1: I remember Matt soone going just just let me know, 713 00:39:23,719 --> 00:39:25,640 Speaker 1: are you gonna be there? And I was like no, 714 00:39:26,000 --> 00:39:27,640 Speaker 1: because I would laugh so hard that I had to 715 00:39:27,640 --> 00:39:33,719 Speaker 1: walk off sets diving the office and I was just 716 00:39:34,760 --> 00:39:38,000 Speaker 1: the most unprofessional, and they would you were doing such 717 00:39:38,040 --> 00:39:41,640 Speaker 1: good work, and he said something about like attaching balloons 718 00:39:41,640 --> 00:39:43,400 Speaker 1: to you or something, and they went to me and 719 00:39:43,440 --> 00:39:46,440 Speaker 1: I was like dude, don't do it. I'm only going 720 00:39:46,520 --> 00:39:48,200 Speaker 1: to fail you. And that was one of the only 721 00:39:48,200 --> 00:39:51,279 Speaker 1: times that I just literally gave up on doing my job. 722 00:39:51,440 --> 00:39:53,759 Speaker 1: And then he pretended that his legs were asleep. Yeah, 723 00:39:54,719 --> 00:39:56,920 Speaker 1: but his voice changed when you sat on his lap. Well, 724 00:39:57,239 --> 00:39:59,720 Speaker 1: that's that's the thing that I always but I always 725 00:39:59,760 --> 00:40:02,120 Speaker 1: say it people was and it was right in my ear. 726 00:40:02,440 --> 00:40:06,560 Speaker 1: It was right in my ear. And I would go 727 00:40:06,800 --> 00:40:11,160 Speaker 1: kill what would you like a little And it was 728 00:40:11,239 --> 00:40:14,960 Speaker 1: like this inhalation of air. Jeez, I didn't know you 729 00:40:14,960 --> 00:40:16,520 Speaker 1: were going to ask me that, and he goes, well, 730 00:40:16,600 --> 00:40:20,359 Speaker 1: thank quicker. Like remember when he started banging and said 731 00:40:20,360 --> 00:40:24,040 Speaker 1: out the glass, Oh, that whole improv And I remember, 732 00:40:24,200 --> 00:40:26,279 Speaker 1: God bless Steve. He used to get so frustrated. So 733 00:40:26,280 --> 00:40:28,120 Speaker 1: I'm not really but like I know, I was a 734 00:40:28,120 --> 00:40:29,759 Speaker 1: pain in the aster room because I would laugh so 735 00:40:29,840 --> 00:40:31,839 Speaker 1: hard and some of if he'd be doing the most 736 00:40:31,920 --> 00:40:34,920 Speaker 1: genius stuff and I'd be in a two shot with 737 00:40:35,000 --> 00:40:37,600 Speaker 1: him ruining the take and he was like, come on, man, 738 00:40:37,640 --> 00:40:39,480 Speaker 1: maybe don't laugh on this one. So nice about it. 739 00:40:39,480 --> 00:40:40,719 Speaker 1: But also it was like I'd like to go home 740 00:40:40,800 --> 00:40:48,000 Speaker 1: and see my kids. I'd like to get out of here. Yeah. Um, writing, acting, directing. 741 00:40:48,160 --> 00:40:51,360 Speaker 1: Is there one you prefer? That's a good question. I 742 00:40:51,640 --> 00:40:54,880 Speaker 1: don't know. I think yeah. I think acting was always 743 00:40:55,120 --> 00:40:58,200 Speaker 1: I think because it was the first, there's something I 744 00:40:58,239 --> 00:41:01,759 Speaker 1: really love about it. I think that there's elements to 745 00:41:01,800 --> 00:41:05,440 Speaker 1: acting being more fun because you don't have the weight 746 00:41:05,520 --> 00:41:08,239 Speaker 1: of responsibility of any kind like turning into script. You 747 00:41:08,239 --> 00:41:11,560 Speaker 1: have the responsibility. I hope this doesn't suck, and directing 748 00:41:11,560 --> 00:41:15,120 Speaker 1: you of all the responsibilities, which can be terrifying. But 749 00:41:15,160 --> 00:41:16,719 Speaker 1: by the way, you don't want to suck being an 750 00:41:16,719 --> 00:41:19,560 Speaker 1: actor either. But I don't know. I guess that it's 751 00:41:20,200 --> 00:41:23,600 Speaker 1: once you've gone to you know, the whole behind the 752 00:41:23,680 --> 00:41:27,160 Speaker 1: camera idea, and you see how the sausage is made, 753 00:41:27,200 --> 00:41:30,840 Speaker 1: you realize how I think writing and directing made me 754 00:41:30,840 --> 00:41:34,880 Speaker 1: a better actor, and vice versa. You know everybody. I 755 00:41:34,880 --> 00:41:37,080 Speaker 1: remember always getting awards. People would always be like in 756 00:41:37,120 --> 00:41:38,680 Speaker 1: thanks to the crew and whatever, and we had the 757 00:41:38,719 --> 00:41:42,080 Speaker 1: greatest crew of all time. And I think that that 758 00:41:42,280 --> 00:41:45,920 Speaker 1: taught me to look back on all the things I 759 00:41:46,000 --> 00:41:50,040 Speaker 1: loved movies and television or whatever, and realized that for 760 00:41:50,120 --> 00:41:54,000 Speaker 1: every moment you remember watching and loving, there were three 761 00:41:54,040 --> 00:41:57,359 Speaker 1: to six people who made that moment exactly happen at 762 00:41:57,400 --> 00:42:00,560 Speaker 1: that exact time, and it was magic, from props to 763 00:42:01,360 --> 00:42:04,080 Speaker 1: camera to the set design. Like I said, like, I 764 00:42:04,080 --> 00:42:05,839 Speaker 1: look back on the Office and realized, like you said, 765 00:42:05,840 --> 00:42:08,759 Speaker 1: that that geography thing really blew my mind because it 766 00:42:08,800 --> 00:42:13,520 Speaker 1: feels like that that that set design was so purposeful anyway, 767 00:42:13,560 --> 00:42:16,319 Speaker 1: that kind of thing. I don't know if that answered anything, No, 768 00:42:16,440 --> 00:42:19,359 Speaker 1: I think so people always ask how did I get 769 00:42:19,400 --> 00:42:21,880 Speaker 1: into directing or writing? And it's like, because I went 770 00:42:21,920 --> 00:42:24,560 Speaker 1: to the best film school ever, which was The Office, 771 00:42:25,480 --> 00:42:28,600 Speaker 1: and you learn what's good. I think my taste level 772 00:42:29,880 --> 00:42:38,040 Speaker 1: became solidified on that show, like I see what's possible 773 00:42:38,160 --> 00:42:42,080 Speaker 1: now in everything I do. Um. I've said this before 774 00:42:42,160 --> 00:42:45,600 Speaker 1: that I never would have directed and rewritten A Quiet 775 00:42:45,640 --> 00:42:49,960 Speaker 1: Place if it wasn't for Greg, because I remember him 776 00:42:50,000 --> 00:42:53,120 Speaker 1: saying to me one day, don't look at this as 777 00:42:53,120 --> 00:42:56,520 Speaker 1: a comedy. Just be in the moment, right, you do 778 00:42:56,560 --> 00:43:00,239 Speaker 1: you your character doesn't know he's funny. We get too, 779 00:43:00,719 --> 00:43:04,480 Speaker 1: we get to decide, right. So we're not making a comedy. 780 00:43:04,480 --> 00:43:07,120 Speaker 1: We're just telling the best story we can. And if 781 00:43:07,200 --> 00:43:10,680 Speaker 1: you end up laughing, great, if you cry at a 782 00:43:10,719 --> 00:43:15,520 Speaker 1: moment with Pam, great, But just tell the best story. 783 00:43:17,000 --> 00:43:20,000 Speaker 1: So when I got offered Quiet Place, I was like, 784 00:43:20,080 --> 00:43:23,120 Speaker 1: I don't know anything about horror. And I remember actually 785 00:43:23,160 --> 00:43:27,200 Speaker 1: sitting down before I wrote the script and said, I'm 786 00:43:27,239 --> 00:43:28,759 Speaker 1: not going to make a horror movie. I'm not gonna 787 00:43:28,800 --> 00:43:31,560 Speaker 1: make a genre movie. I'm gonna tell the best story 788 00:43:31,640 --> 00:43:34,319 Speaker 1: I can about this family. And if you end up 789 00:43:34,360 --> 00:43:38,239 Speaker 1: getting scared at moments, that is on you, because it's 790 00:43:38,320 --> 00:43:40,600 Speaker 1: only my job is only to tell you the most 791 00:43:40,640 --> 00:43:44,200 Speaker 1: concise and strong story I can, and then every emotional 792 00:43:44,280 --> 00:43:46,680 Speaker 1: thing that you feel is coming from you and how 793 00:43:46,719 --> 00:43:49,440 Speaker 1: you're experiencing it. And I remember I never would have 794 00:43:49,440 --> 00:43:52,400 Speaker 1: had the guts to do that, because I would have 795 00:43:52,440 --> 00:43:53,920 Speaker 1: said the same thing I said to Greg that day, 796 00:43:53,960 --> 00:43:55,480 Speaker 1: which is like, I don't want to mess this up. 797 00:43:55,520 --> 00:43:57,279 Speaker 1: I want to make sure I'm really funny in this 798 00:43:57,360 --> 00:43:58,840 Speaker 1: scene for you. And he was like, no, no no, I 799 00:43:58,880 --> 00:44:00,920 Speaker 1: don't want you to be funny. I want you to 800 00:44:00,920 --> 00:44:03,520 Speaker 1: tell the best story and let other people decide whether 801 00:44:03,560 --> 00:44:05,279 Speaker 1: the scene is funny. And I was like, WHOA, mind 802 00:44:05,320 --> 00:44:09,520 Speaker 1: blowing stuff. That is very, very smart. But The Quiet 803 00:44:09,560 --> 00:44:12,680 Speaker 1: Place isn't a comedy. No, you should see it before 804 00:44:12,719 --> 00:44:28,800 Speaker 1: we do an interview. Shoot. All right, guys, we're gonna 805 00:44:28,840 --> 00:44:31,480 Speaker 1: take a break right there. I'm gonna save the rest 806 00:44:31,600 --> 00:44:36,560 Speaker 1: of John's interview for a very special occasion down the line, 807 00:44:36,719 --> 00:44:42,560 Speaker 1: because John is a very special boy. Thank you j 808 00:44:42,719 --> 00:44:44,960 Speaker 1: K for joining me. I have to admit you are 809 00:44:45,040 --> 00:44:49,920 Speaker 1: my number one, top, absolute favorite pain in the ass 810 00:44:50,400 --> 00:44:55,120 Speaker 1: in the world. Um, so congratulations on that. To all 811 00:44:55,160 --> 00:44:57,239 Speaker 1: of you listeners, thank you for joining me. We will 812 00:44:57,280 --> 00:45:02,880 Speaker 1: be back next time for another hilarious guest. So have 813 00:45:03,200 --> 00:45:14,400 Speaker 1: a fantastic week, everybody. The office. Deep Dive is hosted 814 00:45:14,440 --> 00:45:19,400 Speaker 1: and executive produced by me Brian Baumgartner, alongside our executive producer, 815 00:45:19,600 --> 00:45:23,640 Speaker 1: Lang Lee. Our senior producer is Tessa Kramer, our associate 816 00:45:23,680 --> 00:45:28,040 Speaker 1: producer is Emily Carr, and our assistant editor is Diego Tapia. 817 00:45:28,600 --> 00:45:31,640 Speaker 1: My main man in the booth is Alec Moore. Our 818 00:45:31,760 --> 00:45:35,240 Speaker 1: theme song Bubble and Squeak performed by my great friend 819 00:45:35,320 --> 00:45:39,080 Speaker 1: Creed Bratton, and the episode was mixed by seth Olandski.