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Speaker 1: Joe Grande and Mark and Craig Wasserman the Pot Brothers

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Speaker 1: hello and welcome to Cannabis Talk one on one, the

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Speaker 1: Alongside of me is Joe Grande. Thank you guys for

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Speaker 1: Blue said some things, and Big Mike said some things.

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Speaker 1: one oh one. Blue is at one. Christopher writes, I

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Speaker 1: am at Joe Grand fifty two on the show this

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Speaker 1: gentleman right here. I mean, not only does he look

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Speaker 1: I mean he's just a good looking young chap. Austin

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Speaker 1: Moses marketing director Slash M. Mottel for Evelyn Cannabis feels

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Speaker 1: flower the lid. I mean he's basically selling affordable flower

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Speaker 1: at where do you guys at where do you guys

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Speaker 1: come from out of Santa Rosa clos based out of

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Speaker 1: Santa Rosa Colle pull it to you if you want.

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Speaker 1: Actually like, I'm holding mind too if you like that. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: we're based out of Santa Rosa, California. Are you from

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Speaker 1: past three years. And you just hooked up at this company?

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Speaker 1: Have been how long ago? They got me about three

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Speaker 1: you've got all your product up here. You're a gee dog.

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Speaker 1: You're doing it right, and your company needs to realize

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Speaker 1: And I hope they listen to this, because your company

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Speaker 1: We're talking to scientists, this and that and this. Now

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Speaker 1: I am No, we have not okay, so were you

428
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Speaker 1: with Brett. No, this is my first entree into the

429
00:22:09,680 --> 00:22:15,439
Speaker 1: cannabis world. Fantastic welcome, Thank you so so Pam contacted

430
00:22:15,480 --> 00:22:21,959
Speaker 1: me because she was interested in testing feminine intimate care products.

431
00:22:22,119 --> 00:22:25,600
Speaker 1: I don't know if you boys know, but there's not tampons,

432
00:22:26,040 --> 00:22:29,240
Speaker 1: although there are CBD tampons, which is not but there's

433
00:22:29,480 --> 00:22:35,119
Speaker 1: salves and lubes and yes, so there's a lot of

434
00:22:35,160 --> 00:22:39,920
Speaker 1: those products out there. Nobody was testing them other than

435
00:22:40,040 --> 00:22:44,800
Speaker 1: for cannabinoids. So um, she came to me. I developed

436
00:22:44,840 --> 00:22:49,080
Speaker 1: an essay that would look at the impact of these

437
00:22:49,119 --> 00:22:54,600
Speaker 1: products on the known healthy bacteria and the vaginal microbiome.

438
00:22:58,760 --> 00:23:01,080
Speaker 1: That was so important. Do you imagine if you didn't

439
00:23:01,119 --> 00:23:05,960
Speaker 1: and something went wrong on its great. So so we're

440
00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:10,080
Speaker 1: like pioneering an entire new area of testing, and I'm

441
00:23:10,160 --> 00:23:14,720
Speaker 1: very excited about it because there are other microbiomes in

442
00:23:14,720 --> 00:23:18,639
Speaker 1: the human body and that could be affected by the

443
00:23:18,720 --> 00:23:23,440
Speaker 1: particular route you use for your cannabis. Like if you're smoking.

444
00:23:23,640 --> 00:23:28,040
Speaker 1: We know people who smoked tobacco their oral microflora changes.

445
00:23:28,400 --> 00:23:31,800
Speaker 1: I'd be super curious to know what happens if you're

446
00:23:31,960 --> 00:23:37,399
Speaker 1: regular vapor or uh smoker of cannabis. It's gonna be

447
00:23:37,440 --> 00:23:39,440
Speaker 1: interesting to see when that happens. But but what got

448
00:23:39,480 --> 00:23:42,200
Speaker 1: you Pam to call Cindy? How did this whole relationship come,

449
00:23:42,280 --> 00:23:44,959
Speaker 1: what made you decide to do that? Well? Um, I

450
00:23:45,000 --> 00:23:47,960
Speaker 1: was working with another scientist in Massachusetts who left to

451
00:23:48,000 --> 00:23:52,000
Speaker 1: go to bio pharma and she had written some papers

452
00:23:52,040 --> 00:23:56,920
Speaker 1: with Cindy about the whole testing process, and I thought, well,

453
00:23:57,359 --> 00:24:00,159
Speaker 1: it was the next best person, Cindy. Yeah, and he

454
00:24:00,200 --> 00:24:01,960
Speaker 1: just reached out and said, hey, I want to and

455
00:24:02,320 --> 00:24:04,800
Speaker 1: what are you guys doing together now? Well, the women products,

456
00:24:04,800 --> 00:24:07,240
Speaker 1: and so that's what we started with. So we're looking

457
00:24:07,280 --> 00:24:09,880
Speaker 1: at I can tell you that I started a Massachusetts

458
00:24:09,880 --> 00:24:12,560
Speaker 1: where is perfectly legal. I started growing in my backyard

459
00:24:12,640 --> 00:24:16,240
Speaker 1: in two thousand and sixteen, and I was making products

460
00:24:16,240 --> 00:24:19,760
Speaker 1: for my daughters and their friends. And I went because

461
00:24:19,760 --> 00:24:22,359
Speaker 1: I'm a researcher by nature, but in the education field,

462
00:24:22,359 --> 00:24:24,879
Speaker 1: and I looked to see if anything was written that

463
00:24:24,920 --> 00:24:27,480
Speaker 1: was telling me if these were safe, and there was nothing.

464
00:24:27,560 --> 00:24:30,440
Speaker 1: So I was like, WHOA, I can't give these two

465
00:24:30,560 --> 00:24:34,000
Speaker 1: people for you know, cramps if they could cause them

466
00:24:34,040 --> 00:24:38,359
Speaker 1: to have reproductive problems later in life. Right. So that's

467
00:24:38,359 --> 00:24:40,760
Speaker 1: how we started to do the research is we wanted

468
00:24:40,800 --> 00:24:43,800
Speaker 1: to see but there's nothing out there. So we started

469
00:24:43,920 --> 00:24:46,879
Speaker 1: in the lab first, and that's why I went to Cyndy.

470
00:24:47,600 --> 00:24:51,119
Speaker 1: And how long does this research take um It takes

471
00:24:51,160 --> 00:24:54,240
Speaker 1: about a week to screen a product, and you know,

472
00:24:54,359 --> 00:24:58,720
Speaker 1: we're getting a pretty healthy response. And we've actually branched

473
00:24:58,720 --> 00:25:02,520
Speaker 1: out to products that don't have cannabis and UM, and

474
00:25:02,720 --> 00:25:06,920
Speaker 1: I really want to make it clear that, uh, we

475
00:25:07,000 --> 00:25:10,640
Speaker 1: have not determined that any of the cannabinoids in these

476
00:25:10,680 --> 00:25:15,960
Speaker 1: products are harmful to the healthy flora and the vagina.

477
00:25:16,160 --> 00:25:19,600
Speaker 1: So that's really good news for the cannabis market. Are

478
00:25:19,640 --> 00:25:22,520
Speaker 1: you getting more products to test them? Yes, So we've

479
00:25:22,560 --> 00:25:24,320
Speaker 1: been doing a lot of it on our own because

480
00:25:24,720 --> 00:25:26,720
Speaker 1: you know, we want to make sure that there's integrity

481
00:25:26,720 --> 00:25:28,920
Speaker 1: with the testing. So they will take the tat will

482
00:25:28,960 --> 00:25:31,199
Speaker 1: go buy a product. Bought them today here in California,

483
00:25:31,480 --> 00:25:34,040
Speaker 1: and Cindy will test those in her lab to see

484
00:25:34,040 --> 00:25:36,560
Speaker 1: how they affect the vaginal microbiome. Are you guys gonna

485
00:25:36,560 --> 00:25:38,560
Speaker 1: put those results out for people to see, do? Yeah,

486
00:25:38,600 --> 00:25:41,200
Speaker 1: we have them on our website right now at Apathecare's website.

487
00:25:41,240 --> 00:25:43,600
Speaker 1: You can see the products that we've tested already that

488
00:25:44,000 --> 00:25:47,040
Speaker 1: your website. It's a called apathecare dot com. And one

489
00:25:47,080 --> 00:25:49,359
Speaker 1: of the things I will reiterate with Cindy said is

490
00:25:49,359 --> 00:25:52,080
Speaker 1: we tested CBD and th HC isolate and some full

491
00:25:52,119 --> 00:25:54,560
Speaker 1: spectrum products and they were fine. Now there's a few

492
00:25:54,560 --> 00:25:58,439
Speaker 1: others that do contain cannabis that Warren is fine, but

493
00:25:58,480 --> 00:26:01,360
Speaker 1: we're not really sure why. So we're starting to isolate

494
00:26:01,400 --> 00:26:03,879
Speaker 1: the ingredients that are in the products to see if

495
00:26:03,880 --> 00:26:06,280
Speaker 1: we can determine and work with the manufacturers to make

496
00:26:06,320 --> 00:26:09,520
Speaker 1: sure that their products are safe. Wow, you gotta hold

497
00:26:09,520 --> 00:26:13,200
Speaker 1: them accountable. You know somebody but just want to use it.

498
00:26:13,320 --> 00:26:16,280
Speaker 1: Make sure try And here's validating like, no, this is

499
00:26:16,359 --> 00:26:19,080
Speaker 1: Legit is doing every testing than any because it's going

500
00:26:19,160 --> 00:26:22,919
Speaker 1: in your body exactly. Every when you buy Catchup, it's tested.

501
00:26:22,920 --> 00:26:27,920
Speaker 1: When you buy anything else, it's tested. I'm saying right absolutely,

502
00:26:28,359 --> 00:26:30,560
Speaker 1: Why shouldn't that be tested. If I'm gonna use this

503
00:26:30,640 --> 00:26:32,399
Speaker 1: and put it in my body and I'm gonna use this,

504
00:26:32,520 --> 00:26:36,480
Speaker 1: why can't that be yes? Because you know they leave

505
00:26:36,560 --> 00:26:40,800
Speaker 1: themselves open for class action lawsuits. Yeah, I love it.

506
00:26:40,840 --> 00:26:43,160
Speaker 1: You guys are doing such amazing work. Appreciate you guys

507
00:26:43,160 --> 00:26:45,480
Speaker 1: being here. Anything we can do for you guys, anything

508
00:26:45,480 --> 00:26:46,840
Speaker 1: else you want to get a message out there and

509
00:26:46,920 --> 00:26:51,480
Speaker 1: let the people know about a body Care or Labs

510
00:26:51,600 --> 00:26:55,600
Speaker 1: is launching the FDO facts, which will visually display the

511
00:26:55,760 --> 00:26:58,320
Speaker 1: power of chemometrics. I think it's going to be very

512
00:26:58,359 --> 00:27:01,800
Speaker 1: powerful because you don't know a lot about the chemical

513
00:27:01,880 --> 00:27:05,320
Speaker 1: profile of cannabis. This is just a visual that will

514
00:27:05,400 --> 00:27:07,959
Speaker 1: let you know how that product is going to affect

515
00:27:08,040 --> 00:27:13,800
Speaker 1: your body. Appreciate, really, really nice to be on folks.

516
00:27:13,800 --> 00:27:15,800
Speaker 1: If you don't know about cama, this is where we're at.

517
00:27:15,800 --> 00:27:17,640
Speaker 1: We'll be right back after this. You got it, We'll

518
00:27:17,680 --> 00:27:32,160
Speaker 1: be right back with Cannabis Talk one oh one. Welcome

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524
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525
00:27:50,920 --> 00:27:54,360
Speaker 1: just said two great guests earlier and now we've done

526
00:27:54,680 --> 00:28:00,800
Speaker 1: wrangled up Jeff Jeff Tierra Massou. How's your last name?

527
00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:03,160
Speaker 1: Your your last name is just so tasty, by the way,

528
00:28:03,400 --> 00:28:07,600
Speaker 1: what is your last name? Jeffer Toosia. You're gonna have

529
00:28:09,160 --> 00:28:11,760
Speaker 1: a little Italian from Italian family in Italy or what's

530
00:28:11,800 --> 00:28:16,600
Speaker 1: this little East in the North Ukraze. Say that again

531
00:28:16,640 --> 00:28:20,600
Speaker 1: Toros Todosia to get a lot closer to that. Yeah,

532
00:28:21,680 --> 00:28:25,119
Speaker 1: where are you from? So right here Ridondo beach? No

533
00:28:26,280 --> 00:28:28,119
Speaker 1: born to raise it, born and raised. I'm one of

534
00:28:28,119 --> 00:28:31,800
Speaker 1: the few, are you scientists? Look? What do you guys here?

535
00:28:32,240 --> 00:28:34,480
Speaker 1: Why cannabis? Are you? Are you smoke cannabis as well?

536
00:28:34,720 --> 00:28:38,240
Speaker 1: You don't? We all? Well, not every not every scientist

537
00:28:38,320 --> 00:28:40,080
Speaker 1: that we've had on here today is not. So that's

538
00:28:40,080 --> 00:28:42,680
Speaker 1: why I'm asking. But how about this. I did judge

539
00:28:42,680 --> 00:28:44,400
Speaker 1: you in the best way possible because you are a

540
00:28:44,400 --> 00:28:46,720
Speaker 1: so cowboy, so I'm thinking, going, he's got to be

541
00:28:46,760 --> 00:28:48,880
Speaker 1: a surfer. And of course you grow smoking weed. I

542
00:28:48,920 --> 00:28:50,920
Speaker 1: did pre judge that, and that's why I asked, did

543
00:28:50,960 --> 00:28:53,280
Speaker 1: you smoke weed? First? Were most scientists? I don't even

544
00:28:53,280 --> 00:28:55,040
Speaker 1: ask him off the top? No, I didn't ask any

545
00:28:55,040 --> 00:28:57,280
Speaker 1: scientists this off top until later. But because you said

546
00:28:57,280 --> 00:28:59,960
Speaker 1: in southern California, I rolled the dice and assume you did,

547
00:29:00,040 --> 00:29:04,000
Speaker 1: which then gave me the it's a safe assumption. Yeah,

548
00:29:04,240 --> 00:29:06,360
Speaker 1: because of that, Because you said the beach you owned

549
00:29:06,360 --> 00:29:09,680
Speaker 1: a surfboard, right, see that that's the great assumption. You

550
00:29:09,720 --> 00:29:11,880
Speaker 1: go up there, you have there your scientists. You have

551
00:29:11,920 --> 00:29:16,200
Speaker 1: a company that's a big mouthful. Yes, what is the name? So?

552
00:29:16,280 --> 00:29:20,280
Speaker 1: The company has advan Intershim Scientific. Why would you make

553
00:29:20,320 --> 00:29:22,360
Speaker 1: the name so damn hard just for all the sizes

554
00:29:22,360 --> 00:29:27,200
Speaker 1: of scientists? Not by choice? Did you just took some letters?

555
00:29:27,560 --> 00:29:30,480
Speaker 1: So let me give you some history. Um, so I

556
00:29:30,920 --> 00:29:35,720
Speaker 1: founded Intershim North America back in two thousand eight. And

557
00:29:35,800 --> 00:29:40,280
Speaker 1: what is that intershim? So Intershim is a French company

558
00:29:40,440 --> 00:29:43,160
Speaker 1: based in central France. Um, that's where we do all

559
00:29:43,160 --> 00:29:46,920
Speaker 1: the manufacturing of the instrumentation. And they were looking for

560
00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:50,040
Speaker 1: a way to get into the United States. So I

561
00:29:50,240 --> 00:29:53,520
Speaker 1: started up their US operation in two thousand eight. And

562
00:29:53,560 --> 00:29:56,720
Speaker 1: what did they build? So we build equipment that's used

563
00:29:56,760 --> 00:30:02,120
Speaker 1: for purification. Two. For anything, anything that you can get

564
00:30:02,360 --> 00:30:05,760
Speaker 1: into a liquid form, we can purify it. Yes, so

565
00:30:05,920 --> 00:30:09,360
Speaker 1: you can you mean clean it, clean anything. So the

566
00:30:09,560 --> 00:30:13,640
Speaker 1: t C the primary the primary market is pharmaceutical R

567
00:30:13,680 --> 00:30:17,440
Speaker 1: and D, so big pharma. They try to create new

568
00:30:17,520 --> 00:30:20,080
Speaker 1: drugs every year and in order for them to do that,

569
00:30:20,360 --> 00:30:23,400
Speaker 1: they build molecules. They'll start out with a molecule that

570
00:30:23,440 --> 00:30:26,680
Speaker 1: looks like this, and then they'll add this group, they'll

571
00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:29,560
Speaker 1: cleave that off, they'll add this and they gradually build

572
00:30:29,640 --> 00:30:33,960
Speaker 1: a molecule over and that takes weeks if not months

573
00:30:34,000 --> 00:30:37,239
Speaker 1: to do that, and each step of that process they

574
00:30:37,320 --> 00:30:41,360
Speaker 1: need to get into about purity before they take it

575
00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:45,640
Speaker 1: to the next stage. So and so, and when they're

576
00:30:45,640 --> 00:30:47,280
Speaker 1: doing that, they're doing that. So they could patent it

577
00:30:47,360 --> 00:30:50,080
Speaker 1: correct I mean, and then create like a purpose for

578
00:30:50,160 --> 00:30:52,520
Speaker 1: it if you will. So maybe it's like you know,

579
00:30:52,640 --> 00:30:55,720
Speaker 1: one part C C B ns T A C and

580
00:30:55,840 --> 00:30:59,120
Speaker 1: then maybe add some you know, T c V and

581
00:30:59,280 --> 00:31:01,840
Speaker 1: you put together of this molecule. Then you you would

582
00:31:02,120 --> 00:31:05,920
Speaker 1: clean it, refine it. Your machines would. Yeah, However, you're

583
00:31:05,960 --> 00:31:09,440
Speaker 1: giving big farmer way too much credit right now. Canna cannabis,

584
00:31:09,960 --> 00:31:14,480
Speaker 1: they don't do that there. Does anybody do that? Because whatever?

585
00:31:14,880 --> 00:31:17,680
Speaker 1: So that actually that's a whole other segment of the

586
00:31:17,760 --> 00:31:20,320
Speaker 1: market where cannabis is pivoted in the last few years,

587
00:31:20,440 --> 00:31:25,240
Speaker 1: where you're actually making cannabis cannabinoids from a synthetic process.

588
00:31:25,600 --> 00:31:28,680
Speaker 1: There was a speaker earlier today from the metrics who

589
00:31:28,720 --> 00:31:31,000
Speaker 1: also happens to be one of our clients. Um they're

590
00:31:31,080 --> 00:31:34,560
Speaker 1: up in northern California. They're an offshoot from a um

591
00:31:34,720 --> 00:31:37,960
Speaker 1: UC Berkeley. One of the professors there did a startup

592
00:31:38,120 --> 00:31:44,080
Speaker 1: and they're actually synthesizing cannabinoids UM using yeast. So that's

593
00:31:44,120 --> 00:31:49,800
Speaker 1: a fermentation process which is um used in pharmaceutical manufacturing.

594
00:31:49,880 --> 00:31:53,360
Speaker 1: It has been used for years. Very inexpensive. Yeast is cheap.

595
00:31:53,440 --> 00:31:55,920
Speaker 1: You just feed it sugar and it makes what you

596
00:31:55,960 --> 00:31:58,320
Speaker 1: wanted to make. And how did you get involved with

597
00:31:58,440 --> 00:32:00,440
Speaker 1: this couple? Did the headhunt you? I mean, how did

598
00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:02,479
Speaker 1: you find a company in France to bring this out here?

599
00:32:02,520 --> 00:32:06,640
Speaker 1: Now you're here in Pasadena, Okay? So I am I've

600
00:32:06,680 --> 00:32:11,120
Speaker 1: been in the industry for thirty years. Does that mean

601
00:32:11,160 --> 00:32:13,280
Speaker 1: you're a grower or just a mule? What does that mean?

602
00:32:13,480 --> 00:32:16,280
Speaker 1: So that means I'm I'm a sales and marketing guy.

603
00:32:17,960 --> 00:32:21,240
Speaker 1: So I UM. So, Like I said, I've been in

604
00:32:21,280 --> 00:32:24,000
Speaker 1: the industry for about thirty years. UM, this is my

605
00:32:24,280 --> 00:32:28,920
Speaker 1: I've had several businesses. I had one from nine one

606
00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:33,440
Speaker 1: to two thousand one, UM and during that period I

607
00:32:33,600 --> 00:32:38,840
Speaker 1: needed distribution in Europe. So one of my distributors was Intershing.

608
00:32:39,680 --> 00:32:43,880
Speaker 1: That's how I got to know the company, family owned business. UM.

609
00:32:44,040 --> 00:32:47,640
Speaker 1: All their growth organic, with the exception of one acquisition.

610
00:32:47,840 --> 00:32:50,920
Speaker 1: So UM. We we talked over the years about setting

611
00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:52,840
Speaker 1: up a US operation, and I said, you know, when

612
00:32:52,880 --> 00:32:55,640
Speaker 1: the time's right, we'll know it. And it turned out

613
00:32:55,680 --> 00:32:58,200
Speaker 1: it was be We thought the time was right in

614
00:32:58,280 --> 00:33:01,920
Speaker 1: the spring of two thousand eight, so that's when we incorporated.

615
00:33:02,280 --> 00:33:05,000
Speaker 1: And then we introduced the first instrument in the fall

616
00:33:05,080 --> 00:33:08,800
Speaker 1: of two thousand eight UM, which preceded the Great Recession

617
00:33:08,880 --> 00:33:14,040
Speaker 1: by about three months. So perfect, perfect timing to introduce

618
00:33:14,080 --> 00:33:17,080
Speaker 1: capital equipment into the pharmaceutic that only costs a couple

619
00:33:17,320 --> 00:33:23,880
Speaker 1: hundreds of thousand. Well no, thankfully, no, these are in

620
00:33:23,960 --> 00:33:28,920
Speaker 1: the tens of thousands. Yeah, very powerful bench top Really

621
00:33:29,200 --> 00:33:32,080
Speaker 1: I don't know why I'm thinking industrial size, but they

622
00:33:32,160 --> 00:33:36,200
Speaker 1: can do industrial scale. So we have a bench top

623
00:33:36,280 --> 00:33:41,560
Speaker 1: instrument UM which can deliver We base our throughput on

624
00:33:41,640 --> 00:33:45,160
Speaker 1: flow rates. Okay, so the biggest instrument instrument we have

625
00:33:45,800 --> 00:33:48,640
Speaker 1: delivers just under a liter a minute UM. That's not

626
00:33:48,760 --> 00:33:51,320
Speaker 1: processing time, that's just how much solvent it can push

627
00:33:51,440 --> 00:33:55,160
Speaker 1: per minute UM. And then we it does look industrial

628
00:33:55,320 --> 00:33:59,360
Speaker 1: because the separation device, the column is we call it

629
00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:03,160
Speaker 1: UM that is about eight and a half feet tall,

630
00:34:03,560 --> 00:34:06,760
Speaker 1: So that looks industrial. And are these only for big

631
00:34:06,840 --> 00:34:09,399
Speaker 1: companies or do you recommend Jeck that people can call

632
00:34:09,440 --> 00:34:11,160
Speaker 1: you reach out to you at your company, an even

633
00:34:11,200 --> 00:34:13,120
Speaker 1: if they wanted to do a backyard is only I

634
00:34:13,200 --> 00:34:15,160
Speaker 1: think we got into the to the what I mean,

635
00:34:16,239 --> 00:34:17,920
Speaker 1: is this the merger already? Are we still on the

636
00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:20,000
Speaker 1: first part of the company. That's the first part of

637
00:34:20,040 --> 00:34:25,040
Speaker 1: the company. Yeah, let him get into the show. So

638
00:34:25,239 --> 00:34:28,000
Speaker 1: then yeah, So that was in two thousand and eight.

639
00:34:28,080 --> 00:34:31,480
Speaker 1: We started. We actually got pretty good traction in the industry,

640
00:34:31,520 --> 00:34:33,480
Speaker 1: Big Farm and like what we were putting out, so

641
00:34:33,960 --> 00:34:36,680
Speaker 1: we doubled down, We did some more investment, and then

642
00:34:37,360 --> 00:34:42,400
Speaker 1: we added UM. The the rollout was with UV ultra

643
00:34:42,480 --> 00:34:46,600
Speaker 1: violet detection, which is pretty standard for the technique which

644
00:34:46,680 --> 00:34:50,600
Speaker 1: is liquid chromatography. So it's a pretty inexpensive detector, but

645
00:34:50,840 --> 00:34:53,560
Speaker 1: it'll only tell you if something's there, it won't tell

646
00:34:53,600 --> 00:34:57,960
Speaker 1: you what it is. UM by adding another detector, which

647
00:34:58,080 --> 00:35:01,960
Speaker 1: is mass spectrometry. UM a mass spectrometer will tell you

648
00:35:02,719 --> 00:35:06,200
Speaker 1: the mass of the molecule that it's passing through the detector.

649
00:35:06,760 --> 00:35:11,840
Speaker 1: So that's very information rich. So we know that you know, CBD,

650
00:35:11,960 --> 00:35:15,000
Speaker 1: for example, has a mass of three thirteen, so if

651
00:35:15,040 --> 00:35:17,359
Speaker 1: I see that going through the detector, I know it's

652
00:35:19,800 --> 00:35:23,759
Speaker 1: So that mass detection we incorporated in I think two

653
00:35:23,840 --> 00:35:28,000
Speaker 1: thousand thirteen, and the company or the manufacturer that we

654
00:35:28,160 --> 00:35:31,520
Speaker 1: use for that mass spec was Advan. Did you then

655
00:35:31,640 --> 00:35:33,920
Speaker 1: would you then clean? Would you then clean that if

656
00:35:33,960 --> 00:35:36,080
Speaker 1: you if you wanted to, you could. You could identify it,

657
00:35:36,200 --> 00:35:39,600
Speaker 1: pick it out and then clean just that section. That's yes.

658
00:35:39,719 --> 00:35:43,600
Speaker 1: So the way the way that chromatography works, it's the

659
00:35:44,120 --> 00:35:47,239
Speaker 1: it's the science of separation. So you can take a

660
00:35:47,400 --> 00:35:51,520
Speaker 1: mixture of stuff. Okay, let's talk about a distill. It

661
00:35:52,080 --> 00:35:57,440
Speaker 1: a distill it has you know, CBD, it's got th hc, CBG, CBN, etcetera.

662
00:35:58,200 --> 00:36:02,359
Speaker 1: And what you can do is you can purify each

663
00:36:02,520 --> 00:36:05,480
Speaker 1: one of those molecular constituents. So if I want to

664
00:36:05,520 --> 00:36:11,960
Speaker 1: isolate CBG, CBN, cbc, any of any molecule you want,

665
00:36:12,160 --> 00:36:15,319
Speaker 1: you can separate it using liquid chromatography. It's a very

666
00:36:15,400 --> 00:36:19,720
Speaker 1: powerful technique. It's also a very expensive technique, very expecting.

667
00:36:19,880 --> 00:36:22,600
Speaker 1: What do you mean, Well, the reason it's expensive is

668
00:36:24,239 --> 00:36:27,520
Speaker 1: number one, it's a very solid intensive process you're using.

669
00:36:27,880 --> 00:36:32,920
Speaker 1: In order to introduce that distalate into the machine. Um,

670
00:36:33,239 --> 00:36:35,640
Speaker 1: you need to dilute it with solvent, Okay, usually a

671
00:36:35,800 --> 00:36:38,760
Speaker 1: two to one dilution with solvent, and then you're using

672
00:36:39,000 --> 00:36:42,280
Speaker 1: after you get it into the machine and onto the column.

673
00:36:42,600 --> 00:36:46,160
Speaker 1: The column is that the actual separation device um That

674
00:36:46,400 --> 00:36:51,239
Speaker 1: mixture of molecules will travel through the column at different rates.

675
00:36:51,840 --> 00:36:56,279
Speaker 1: So for example, in in one mode of chromatography, um

676
00:36:56,719 --> 00:37:01,759
Speaker 1: cb d travels travels through relatively fast, whereas th HC

677
00:37:02,320 --> 00:37:05,840
Speaker 1: is retained longer. So now these are separated by time

678
00:37:06,200 --> 00:37:08,080
Speaker 1: when they come out of the column, go into the

679
00:37:08,160 --> 00:37:12,319
Speaker 1: detector and are detected. So we can using liquid chromatography,

680
00:37:12,400 --> 00:37:16,080
Speaker 1: we can basically separate and purify anything clean it. You

681
00:37:16,160 --> 00:37:18,800
Speaker 1: basically clean it and and and that would save I

682
00:37:18,840 --> 00:37:21,640
Speaker 1: mean a lot of people money because because sometimes people

683
00:37:22,000 --> 00:37:25,160
Speaker 1: when they when when they're done extracting their product, it

684
00:37:25,239 --> 00:37:27,480
Speaker 1: still has some kind of toxins that won't allow them

685
00:37:27,520 --> 00:37:29,759
Speaker 1: to pass testing. And so you're saying that you guys

686
00:37:29,840 --> 00:37:32,160
Speaker 1: can clean it at that point with your machine. Yeah,

687
00:37:32,200 --> 00:37:35,080
Speaker 1: And so speaking of toxins, one of the the second

688
00:37:35,160 --> 00:37:39,000
Speaker 1: largest application that we have is to remove pesticides. So

689
00:37:39,120 --> 00:37:42,440
Speaker 1: if you've got an extract it's full of microbutantyl, and

690
00:37:43,239 --> 00:37:44,800
Speaker 1: clean it up like that. So let me hear this.

691
00:37:44,880 --> 00:37:48,120
Speaker 1: And then if I had a bad batge, right, and

692
00:37:48,200 --> 00:37:49,440
Speaker 1: I could take it to you and you guys can

693
00:37:49,480 --> 00:37:51,400
Speaker 1: clean it up. So to speak and or the machine

694
00:37:51,400 --> 00:37:54,640
Speaker 1: could the machine. So we're gonna we'll we'll deliver you

695
00:37:54,760 --> 00:37:59,440
Speaker 1: the instrument, we deliver a sp saving grows now basically,

696
00:37:59,640 --> 00:38:02,480
Speaker 1: well you can yeah, yeah, Well a lot of people

697
00:38:02,960 --> 00:38:05,560
Speaker 1: would would just probably use your process from the start though,

698
00:38:05,880 --> 00:38:08,400
Speaker 1: would be the ideal situation, right, instead of trying to

699
00:38:08,960 --> 00:38:12,680
Speaker 1: rEFInd it after they've already sent it through whatever. Right,

700
00:38:12,840 --> 00:38:16,200
Speaker 1: So if you're you know, ideally when you submit your

701
00:38:16,280 --> 00:38:20,040
Speaker 1: product for a third party testing, if you what we

702
00:38:20,200 --> 00:38:23,000
Speaker 1: recommend is to do in house testing before you submit.

703
00:38:23,200 --> 00:38:26,000
Speaker 1: That way, when you know you submit, it's going to

704
00:38:26,120 --> 00:38:28,520
Speaker 1: be clean, right, Yeah, that way they don't take you

705
00:38:28,560 --> 00:38:30,920
Speaker 1: to destroy it exactly, because that's what they would do.

706
00:38:31,800 --> 00:38:33,560
Speaker 1: That makes it better. So you're already going in with

707
00:38:33,640 --> 00:38:35,719
Speaker 1: the machine that makes it. You go in with going

708
00:38:35,800 --> 00:38:39,040
Speaker 1: with you're going with confidence. You know what you're submitting,

709
00:38:39,080 --> 00:38:41,640
Speaker 1: you know what's going to pass. And if they come

710
00:38:41,719 --> 00:38:44,640
Speaker 1: back and say you failed. For Michael Buine, you can

711
00:38:44,640 --> 00:38:46,279
Speaker 1: call him out on it, say no, I think you

712
00:38:46,400 --> 00:38:49,399
Speaker 1: need to recalibrate your instrumentation because we know it's clean.

713
00:38:50,280 --> 00:38:52,440
Speaker 1: Here's my test. Yeah, you can pull out yours and

714
00:38:52,880 --> 00:38:55,000
Speaker 1: what machine did. Yeah, like you can go in there

715
00:38:55,080 --> 00:38:58,080
Speaker 1: before and I said, here's my test differ, right, and

716
00:38:58,200 --> 00:39:02,120
Speaker 1: it's and it's also you know, throughout the whole manufacturing

717
00:39:02,200 --> 00:39:07,480
Speaker 1: process from you know, extraction to decarboxylation, to distillation to

718
00:39:07,880 --> 00:39:11,719
Speaker 1: well winterization before all that, you should really be monitoring

719
00:39:12,400 --> 00:39:14,880
Speaker 1: each stage in the process to know that you're getting

720
00:39:15,320 --> 00:39:18,839
Speaker 1: good yields. You know, are you losing THHC are your

721
00:39:19,000 --> 00:39:21,880
Speaker 1: CBD levels going up or down? You know, So having that,

722
00:39:22,760 --> 00:39:26,759
Speaker 1: having being able to uh analyze your process and to

723
00:39:26,960 --> 00:39:30,880
Speaker 1: know what the starting material is going in and after

724
00:39:31,040 --> 00:39:34,640
Speaker 1: each step, it's really important information. It's it's really how

725
00:39:34,719 --> 00:39:37,680
Speaker 1: it's done in pharmaceutical manufacturing. So we're just applying that

726
00:39:37,800 --> 00:39:42,200
Speaker 1: same methodology to cannabis. Now, So one of these you know,

727
00:39:43,239 --> 00:39:46,800
Speaker 1: uh instruments that you guys are you guys sell apparently,

728
00:39:47,160 --> 00:39:50,279
Speaker 1: so you would sell that to your the extraction lab

729
00:39:50,760 --> 00:39:52,920
Speaker 1: or you know, and and then would that be in

730
00:39:53,120 --> 00:39:56,080
Speaker 1: in in um conjunction with all the other equipment they

731
00:39:56,120 --> 00:39:58,080
Speaker 1: had to do the winn rizing to do this or

732
00:39:58,160 --> 00:40:00,160
Speaker 1: that or that. This just wipes all those out, just

733
00:40:00,239 --> 00:40:03,920
Speaker 1: goes through your machine. It's one of the last steps

734
00:40:03,960 --> 00:40:11,520
Speaker 1: in the process. Okay, So chromatography chromography, so basically after

735
00:40:11,719 --> 00:40:16,480
Speaker 1: you go through usually post distillation. Okay, if you're doing

736
00:40:16,520 --> 00:40:21,279
Speaker 1: distillation or some other refinement process post extraction, Um, you

737
00:40:21,400 --> 00:40:23,720
Speaker 1: want to clean up that oil so that it meets

738
00:40:23,800 --> 00:40:29,080
Speaker 1: your standards of formulation, and purification is an essential part

739
00:40:29,120 --> 00:40:32,520
Speaker 1: of that. So one example is th HC remediation for

740
00:40:32,840 --> 00:40:36,160
Speaker 1: the CBD market. So they can't have any product out there,

741
00:40:36,400 --> 00:40:39,719
Speaker 1: you know, greater than zero point three percent THC. So

742
00:40:39,960 --> 00:40:42,320
Speaker 1: one of the applications that we support and that we

743
00:40:42,440 --> 00:40:47,200
Speaker 1: train is the ability to take a distillate UH after

744
00:40:47,520 --> 00:40:50,680
Speaker 1: going through the hemp process that's typically going to have

745
00:40:51,360 --> 00:40:56,480
Speaker 1: about cb D and three th HC, So you're ten

746
00:40:56,600 --> 00:40:58,879
Speaker 1: times the legal limit of th HC at this point.

747
00:40:59,600 --> 00:41:01,279
Speaker 1: So now you got to get down to below zero

748
00:41:01,360 --> 00:41:05,160
Speaker 1: point three And that's what our process can deliver. What

749
00:41:05,360 --> 00:41:07,960
Speaker 1: people find you guys at just it's just a website,

750
00:41:07,960 --> 00:41:10,000
Speaker 1: a phone number, Jeff, What is it a website? Yes?

751
00:41:10,120 --> 00:41:11,800
Speaker 1: And the is it the big name of the website

752
00:41:11,840 --> 00:41:14,000
Speaker 1: to pak please come, there's a letter website for that

753
00:41:14,600 --> 00:41:16,520
Speaker 1: or now you're gonna have to spell it out. It's

754
00:41:16,960 --> 00:41:20,359
Speaker 1: it's okay. The easiest one to go to is intershim Inc.

755
00:41:20,640 --> 00:41:24,520
Speaker 1: So it's the company intershim. I n C Incorporated, Intershim Inc.

756
00:41:24,600 --> 00:41:28,080
Speaker 1: Dot Com sell for us. But I n T E

757
00:41:28,440 --> 00:41:32,560
Speaker 1: r C H I M is in Mary I n

758
00:41:32,680 --> 00:41:36,400
Speaker 1: C dot com kind of you still, I was like

759
00:41:36,480 --> 00:41:37,800
Speaker 1: I was spelling it, and I was thinking, there's a

760
00:41:37,840 --> 00:41:39,879
Speaker 1: silent letter in there after the aisle? Is there another

761
00:41:39,880 --> 00:41:44,120
Speaker 1: one name? Thankfully no, it's a silent G. I don't

762
00:41:44,160 --> 00:41:46,560
Speaker 1: want I don't want to confuse the listener. Make up

763
00:41:46,560 --> 00:41:49,359
Speaker 1: an they'll be really good for him. But where where

764
00:41:49,480 --> 00:41:51,360
Speaker 1: is the headquarters? It's in France for this one to

765
00:41:51,480 --> 00:41:55,840
Speaker 1: Jeff or So, France is where we make all of

766
00:41:55,880 --> 00:41:59,440
Speaker 1: the Intershim instruments. So those are the purification instruments. And

767
00:41:59,600 --> 00:42:04,320
Speaker 1: then in New York we have Advan Instruments. So Advan

768
00:42:04,520 --> 00:42:07,759
Speaker 1: that's the manufacturer of the mass spectrometer that is the

769
00:42:08,719 --> 00:42:12,600
Speaker 1: UH supersensitive detector that we use in the in the

770
00:42:12,719 --> 00:42:14,920
Speaker 1: purification process. You have to go back there a lot

771
00:42:15,160 --> 00:42:20,080
Speaker 1: for work and stuff and get so so would be

772
00:42:20,120 --> 00:42:23,840
Speaker 1: a better you know, um prior to the merger of

773
00:42:24,360 --> 00:42:29,120
Speaker 1: Advan and Intershim in two thousand nineteen, UM I would

774
00:42:29,160 --> 00:42:32,000
Speaker 1: go to I would go to France every year for

775
00:42:32,120 --> 00:42:37,279
Speaker 1: work and now not now Emily in Paris, you don't

776
00:42:37,320 --> 00:42:40,359
Speaker 1: get to go to that cafe that she h not evenfore? Well,

777
00:42:40,400 --> 00:42:42,279
Speaker 1: who knows. I think I'll probably go. I've been there.

778
00:42:44,440 --> 00:42:47,360
Speaker 1: I went Uma. The last time I was there was

779
00:42:47,760 --> 00:42:53,319
Speaker 1: just before lockdown, so that was in February. Well, if

780
00:42:53,320 --> 00:42:55,560
Speaker 1: you ever want to take us, we'll go with you. Well, however,

781
00:42:55,680 --> 00:42:59,560
Speaker 1: I was in Spain last summer for doing an installation. Uh,

782
00:43:00,160 --> 00:43:03,399
Speaker 1: because this is a global Cannabis is global, so there's

783
00:43:03,400 --> 00:43:06,000
Speaker 1: a big installation in Spain. I'll be in Portugal probably

784
00:43:06,480 --> 00:43:09,640
Speaker 1: later this year sometime. So as you say that, now

785
00:43:09,719 --> 00:43:11,800
Speaker 1: you just take me to another direction. Is it small

786
00:43:11,840 --> 00:43:14,200
Speaker 1: equipment big equipment? Are they all one size? The one

787
00:43:14,239 --> 00:43:15,680
Speaker 1: size fit all? Or is it like as you say,

788
00:43:15,719 --> 00:43:18,319
Speaker 1: a big say a big thing. I'm in my head going, okay,

789
00:43:18,320 --> 00:43:20,719
Speaker 1: if I have a big facility, am I going to

790
00:43:20,800 --> 00:43:23,560
Speaker 1: have bigger equipment? Or is it all desktop? So the

791
00:43:24,960 --> 00:43:27,680
Speaker 1: the smaller system we have is in fact desktop. Okay,

792
00:43:27,719 --> 00:43:30,960
Speaker 1: So the whole thing fits, you know, it's it's about

793
00:43:31,040 --> 00:43:35,120
Speaker 1: this big okay, fits on the bench like a bigger microwave. Yeah.

794
00:43:35,560 --> 00:43:38,760
Speaker 1: And then the larger system is a little bit taller okay.

795
00:43:39,480 --> 00:43:43,279
Speaker 1: But the column all right, the column is eight and

796
00:43:43,280 --> 00:43:47,600
Speaker 1: a half feet tall. So much more industrial scale, is

797
00:43:47,640 --> 00:43:51,279
Speaker 1: it is it a is it a UM like like

798
00:43:51,640 --> 00:43:53,239
Speaker 1: does it need to be in a bomb proof room

799
00:43:53,480 --> 00:43:55,440
Speaker 1: or any of those? So all of these we are

800
00:43:55,680 --> 00:43:59,080
Speaker 1: using flammable solvings. Okay, So usually it's C one D one,

801
00:43:59,160 --> 00:44:02,160
Speaker 1: C one D two UM And it just depends on

802
00:44:02,239 --> 00:44:05,640
Speaker 1: the local jurisdiction is to what enforcement they have and

803
00:44:05,760 --> 00:44:09,360
Speaker 1: what regulations they have in play. So everywhere is different.

804
00:44:09,360 --> 00:44:13,480
Speaker 1: From the end, everywhere is different. Is it crazier in

805
00:44:13,600 --> 00:44:16,880
Speaker 1: some places or do we see a regulation coming around

806
00:44:17,000 --> 00:44:19,200
Speaker 1: going like okay, this makes the most sense everywhere. So

807
00:44:19,640 --> 00:44:23,320
Speaker 1: in one of my former businesses, UM, I was in

808
00:44:23,480 --> 00:44:28,120
Speaker 1: charge of consolidating three facilities in southern California. One was

809
00:44:28,200 --> 00:44:32,000
Speaker 1: in Harbor City, another one was in um lake Forest

810
00:44:32,080 --> 00:44:33,880
Speaker 1: down in Orange County, and the other one, which was

811
00:44:33,960 --> 00:44:38,279
Speaker 1: my facility, which was in Torrance, California. So Torrance and

812
00:44:38,360 --> 00:44:42,400
Speaker 1: Harbor City are in Los Angeles County, lake Forest is

813
00:44:42,520 --> 00:44:45,320
Speaker 1: in Orange County. I live in Lake Forest. So the

814
00:44:45,360 --> 00:44:47,239
Speaker 1: Orange County where we never hear the lake Forest and

815
00:44:47,280 --> 00:44:52,440
Speaker 1: now we've heard a couple of times today today. Orange

816
00:44:52,440 --> 00:44:55,759
Speaker 1: County not a very industrial county. Lake Forest has a

817
00:44:55,760 --> 00:44:57,880
Speaker 1: good litle industrial area that run off all at like

818
00:44:57,920 --> 00:45:00,239
Speaker 1: I drive through industrial but it's not like that. But

819
00:45:00,400 --> 00:45:04,719
Speaker 1: it's like commerce, it's not l A you know. So

820
00:45:04,920 --> 00:45:08,400
Speaker 1: it's the nicest industrial r I've ever seen to Yes, so,

821
00:45:08,560 --> 00:45:14,080
Speaker 1: the Orange County Fighter Authority, it's unlike any other regulatory

822
00:45:14,160 --> 00:45:16,200
Speaker 1: body I've ever dealt with. Oh, they don't play out there,

823
00:45:16,200 --> 00:45:19,160
Speaker 1: and yeah, they don't play that you you're breathing funny.

824
00:45:19,239 --> 00:45:24,359
Speaker 1: Excuse me, sir? You okay? Like oh yeah, so every

825
00:45:24,560 --> 00:45:28,879
Speaker 1: so in my experience in that facility, um, they made

826
00:45:28,960 --> 00:45:32,440
Speaker 1: us do what's called an H occupancy. H occupancy is

827
00:45:32,480 --> 00:45:35,520
Speaker 1: basically assuming that you're going to blow the place up,

828
00:45:35,800 --> 00:45:40,520
Speaker 1: so everything goes literally up. You have these concrete reinforced

829
00:45:40,560 --> 00:45:43,480
Speaker 1: walls that everything is supposed to go up, where as

830
00:45:43,520 --> 00:45:46,880
Speaker 1: and C one D one see one detail. It assumes

831
00:45:46,920 --> 00:45:49,279
Speaker 1: that you're going to control everything and you're not going

832
00:45:49,320 --> 00:45:52,800
Speaker 1: to have an explosion. So yeah, it was very difficult

833
00:45:52,840 --> 00:45:55,000
Speaker 1: to get that done. And it varies from you know,

834
00:45:56,280 --> 00:45:58,840
Speaker 1: and that was a million dollars to five. Yeah, so

835
00:45:59,400 --> 00:46:01,880
Speaker 1: that was and that was when my mindset was in

836
00:46:01,960 --> 00:46:05,520
Speaker 1: pharmaceutical manufacturing and the pro products that we went to

837
00:46:05,920 --> 00:46:09,480
Speaker 1: support that. What I've learned over the past six years

838
00:46:09,640 --> 00:46:15,360
Speaker 1: in cannabis. Is that it's that the spectrum of what

839
00:46:15,480 --> 00:46:19,640
Speaker 1: I've seen and what's allowed from one municipality to another,

840
00:46:20,760 --> 00:46:24,440
Speaker 1: it's um, no one knows what the hell it is

841
00:46:24,520 --> 00:46:27,279
Speaker 1: the wild West. Yeah, it really comes down to the

842
00:46:27,320 --> 00:46:29,960
Speaker 1: city or and I mean it is the city. It

843
00:46:30,200 --> 00:46:33,719
Speaker 1: is the local fire authority that will say that that's okay. Yeah,

844
00:46:34,080 --> 00:46:36,640
Speaker 1: so they have to have your hand at local fireth Yeah,

845
00:46:36,640 --> 00:46:38,239
Speaker 1: because the city comes in and you're like in the

846
00:46:38,280 --> 00:46:40,960
Speaker 1: city of Stanton, California, They're like, yeah, whatever, no problem.

847
00:46:41,000 --> 00:46:42,920
Speaker 1: And then all of a sudden, you're they're like no problem.

848
00:46:42,960 --> 00:46:45,680
Speaker 1: Then you're a nerve and they're like, nah, man, you're

849
00:46:45,719 --> 00:46:48,719
Speaker 1: gonna have to get a new building. You're like what, Like, yeah,

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