1 00:00:06,160 --> 00:00:11,600 Speaker 1: Ladies and gentlemen, Are you Ready's about to hit the fan? 2 00:00:12,320 --> 00:00:18,200 Speaker 2: Welcome to Unsanctioned Thursdays ho Wrestling with Friday. 3 00:00:19,760 --> 00:00:21,919 Speaker 1: Ladies and gentlemen, Welcome to a brand new episode of 4 00:00:21,960 --> 00:00:29,360 Speaker 1: Unsanctioned Thursdays. Here, I'm Freddie Prince Junior. With me, as 5 00:00:29,360 --> 00:00:31,880 Speaker 1: always is my great co host, mister Jeff Die. And 6 00:00:31,920 --> 00:00:35,440 Speaker 1: we are talking a w's all out held in Chicago, 7 00:00:35,479 --> 00:00:40,879 Speaker 1: Illinois and the explosion and aftermath of Cmpunk's employment with 8 00:00:41,000 --> 00:00:44,080 Speaker 1: ae W. And I think we should start with that 9 00:00:44,200 --> 00:00:49,320 Speaker 1: because pretty important. What can I say here? Okay, I'm 10 00:00:49,680 --> 00:00:51,839 Speaker 1: friends with some of the people that he's had an 11 00:00:51,840 --> 00:00:54,200 Speaker 1: issue with first and foremost, so I should get that 12 00:00:54,200 --> 00:00:56,440 Speaker 1: out of the way. So everyone goes, oh, pretty's biased. Yeah, 13 00:00:56,480 --> 00:01:03,320 Speaker 1: I'm biased, But I will say this, when you keep 14 00:01:03,360 --> 00:01:08,400 Speaker 1: doing the same thing over and over and you keep 15 00:01:08,400 --> 00:01:11,200 Speaker 1: blaming everyone else and it's the world's fault, right like that, 16 00:01:11,280 --> 00:01:14,560 Speaker 1: Alesia Karasong, And you don't have to change a thing. 17 00:01:14,800 --> 00:01:17,280 Speaker 1: The world could change. It's hard. The world ain't gonna 18 00:01:17,360 --> 00:01:19,680 Speaker 1: change for you or for nobody, and the world don't 19 00:01:19,720 --> 00:01:22,679 Speaker 1: know you. Shit, it's your responsibility as a human being 20 00:01:23,000 --> 00:01:25,039 Speaker 1: to find out your place in this world and make 21 00:01:25,080 --> 00:01:27,399 Speaker 1: the absolute most of it. But the world doesn't owe 22 00:01:27,400 --> 00:01:30,440 Speaker 1: you a damn thing, And a lot of people end 23 00:01:30,520 --> 00:01:33,320 Speaker 1: up in a similar situation every single time because they 24 00:01:33,440 --> 00:01:39,360 Speaker 1: keep behaving a certain way that turns people off. It's 25 00:01:39,680 --> 00:01:44,200 Speaker 1: really hard to piss people off. It's really easy to 26 00:01:44,240 --> 00:01:46,480 Speaker 1: make them feel good. And at a certain point, I 27 00:01:46,520 --> 00:01:50,160 Speaker 1: think you have to turn that finger towards yourself and say, Okay, 28 00:01:50,160 --> 00:01:52,480 Speaker 1: what is it about me? What am I doing wrong? 29 00:01:53,520 --> 00:01:55,920 Speaker 1: Or you have to have someone a therapist, a wife, 30 00:01:55,960 --> 00:01:58,440 Speaker 1: a best friend who calls you on your shit, who says, yo, man, 31 00:01:58,480 --> 00:02:02,440 Speaker 1: this is the third time, the third time, the third time, 32 00:02:02,680 --> 00:02:05,040 Speaker 1: how many more before you figure out that this might 33 00:02:05,480 --> 00:02:08,600 Speaker 1: might be more of a you problem and less of 34 00:02:08,600 --> 00:02:10,639 Speaker 1: a them problem. I know there's going to be a 35 00:02:10,680 --> 00:02:12,600 Speaker 1: lot of our listeners who disagree with me. You know, 36 00:02:12,720 --> 00:02:15,640 Speaker 1: I respect where you're coming from. I get it. You 37 00:02:15,680 --> 00:02:18,040 Speaker 1: love him and a lot of the young people you 38 00:02:18,120 --> 00:02:20,520 Speaker 1: might think are soft, and maybe you think he's tough. 39 00:02:20,560 --> 00:02:22,480 Speaker 1: I get it. I'm not trying to say you're wrong. 40 00:02:22,520 --> 00:02:24,080 Speaker 1: I'm just trying to let you know where I'm coming 41 00:02:24,080 --> 00:02:26,800 Speaker 1: from based off my experience with him, Like he wasn't 42 00:02:26,840 --> 00:02:28,400 Speaker 1: a nice guy to me, and it would have been 43 00:02:28,400 --> 00:02:30,280 Speaker 1: easy to be nice to me, and instead he would 44 00:02:30,320 --> 00:02:32,240 Speaker 1: just blow me off every time I walked by when 45 00:02:32,280 --> 00:02:34,320 Speaker 1: I worked there, and so I and I was never 46 00:02:34,360 --> 00:02:35,919 Speaker 1: going to work with him because he didn't need my help. 47 00:02:35,960 --> 00:02:37,520 Speaker 1: So I was always like, why are you being Why 48 00:02:37,520 --> 00:02:38,760 Speaker 1: are you going out of your way to be a 49 00:02:38,880 --> 00:02:40,680 Speaker 1: dick to me? If you and I are never going 50 00:02:40,760 --> 00:02:46,720 Speaker 1: to work together ever ever, So this is a weird thing. Man. 51 00:02:46,800 --> 00:02:50,160 Speaker 1: I felt really bad for Tony Kahan. I don't think 52 00:02:50,160 --> 00:02:52,040 Speaker 1: he should have made the statement that he made because 53 00:02:52,040 --> 00:02:54,480 Speaker 1: he's not a good public speaker at all, and it 54 00:02:54,520 --> 00:02:56,920 Speaker 1: gives Punk an opportunity to like shit all over him 55 00:02:56,919 --> 00:02:59,840 Speaker 1: in his first interview outside of the business or outside 56 00:02:59,840 --> 00:03:02,600 Speaker 1: of this firing. I wish he wouldn't have done that. 57 00:03:02,639 --> 00:03:05,840 Speaker 1: The letter was enough, but this is a goddamn shame. 58 00:03:06,040 --> 00:03:09,519 Speaker 1: And when ego and pride are dictating the decisions you make, 59 00:03:10,160 --> 00:03:14,000 Speaker 1: you can accomplish great things, but you're more than likely, 60 00:03:15,320 --> 00:03:18,520 Speaker 1: even with your success, going to implode and get destroyed 61 00:03:18,520 --> 00:03:20,880 Speaker 1: at some point because the foundation that you've built your 62 00:03:20,880 --> 00:03:25,200 Speaker 1: success on is so fucking shaky, because there's no one 63 00:03:25,200 --> 00:03:27,800 Speaker 1: that has your back because you've done too much wrong 64 00:03:27,880 --> 00:03:30,880 Speaker 1: on the way up in this case, at AEW he 65 00:03:31,000 --> 00:03:34,720 Speaker 1: started on top. He started on top, so he should 66 00:03:34,720 --> 00:03:38,040 Speaker 1: have been keyed in to this from day one. I 67 00:03:38,120 --> 00:03:40,080 Speaker 1: have to be the nicest I've ever been. I'll be 68 00:03:40,120 --> 00:03:42,680 Speaker 1: real with you guys. When I came back to acting, 69 00:03:42,800 --> 00:03:45,200 Speaker 1: I made a conscious decision I'm gonna do it different 70 00:03:45,200 --> 00:03:47,720 Speaker 1: this time. If somebody's screwing up, I'm not going to 71 00:03:47,760 --> 00:03:49,680 Speaker 1: get on their case, I'm going to help them. I'm 72 00:03:49,720 --> 00:03:52,720 Speaker 1: going to help them with positivity. I didn't always used 73 00:03:52,720 --> 00:03:53,720 Speaker 1: to do that. I used to be like, look, i'm 74 00:03:53,760 --> 00:03:55,640 Speaker 1: a professional, you need to be a professional too. What 75 00:03:55,680 --> 00:03:59,000 Speaker 1: the hell's going on? Man? Learn your fucking dialogue. Now. 76 00:03:59,440 --> 00:04:01,360 Speaker 1: You don't earn your stuff in the makeup trailer. You 77 00:04:01,400 --> 00:04:03,480 Speaker 1: learn it at home. That's when you do. You don't 78 00:04:03,480 --> 00:04:05,839 Speaker 1: come to set with sides. That's bullshit. And so many 79 00:04:05,840 --> 00:04:09,440 Speaker 1: actors would. And as I got older and this second 80 00:04:09,480 --> 00:04:11,120 Speaker 1: time around, I was like, you know what, dude, you 81 00:04:11,160 --> 00:04:13,840 Speaker 1: need to focus on self and you need to focus 82 00:04:13,840 --> 00:04:16,279 Speaker 1: on affecting everyone else in a positive way. And I 83 00:04:16,320 --> 00:04:19,880 Speaker 1: went and did this Netflix movie with that soul motivation 84 00:04:20,040 --> 00:04:22,599 Speaker 1: in mind behind everything I did on set, and it 85 00:04:22,720 --> 00:04:26,080 Speaker 1: was the best that I'd ever been received, and it 86 00:04:26,120 --> 00:04:28,440 Speaker 1: was one of the most successful movies I've ever done, 87 00:04:28,480 --> 00:04:30,320 Speaker 1: and I've made movies that made three quarters of a 88 00:04:30,400 --> 00:04:33,640 Speaker 1: billion dollars. Netflix gave us big love for that. I 89 00:04:33,640 --> 00:04:36,240 Speaker 1: did an independent film after that with the same philosophy. 90 00:04:36,360 --> 00:04:38,400 Speaker 1: I'm going to make everyone on this set. I'm going 91 00:04:38,440 --> 00:04:40,680 Speaker 1: to know every single crew member's name. I'm going to 92 00:04:40,960 --> 00:04:43,000 Speaker 1: give every actor every ounce of help they need, whether 93 00:04:43,040 --> 00:04:45,120 Speaker 1: it's in the makeup trailer in the moment, I don't 94 00:04:45,120 --> 00:04:46,560 Speaker 1: care if they learn their shit or not. I'm going 95 00:04:46,600 --> 00:04:49,760 Speaker 1: to be patient and tolerant with young people. All these things. 96 00:04:49,800 --> 00:04:52,080 Speaker 1: These were huge motivations for me to be different this 97 00:04:52,160 --> 00:04:55,640 Speaker 1: time around. And the success that I had and the 98 00:04:55,680 --> 00:04:59,560 Speaker 1: experience that I had was the complete opposite of the 99 00:04:59,640 --> 00:05:02,200 Speaker 1: experience that I used to have, which made me leave 100 00:05:02,240 --> 00:05:04,000 Speaker 1: the business. To be honest with you or one of 101 00:05:04,040 --> 00:05:09,000 Speaker 1: the contributing factors, So this guy eventually either needs to 102 00:05:09,000 --> 00:05:12,080 Speaker 1: figure this out or that's a goddamn rap. And I 103 00:05:12,120 --> 00:05:15,520 Speaker 1: hate to sound cold and brutal like that, but I've 104 00:05:15,520 --> 00:05:17,560 Speaker 1: talked about the federation that I want to start here, 105 00:05:17,640 --> 00:05:20,400 Speaker 1: and I've spoken to professional wrestlers and said, hey, man, 106 00:05:20,400 --> 00:05:21,680 Speaker 1: would you be down to help me out if I'm 107 00:05:21,720 --> 00:05:24,680 Speaker 1: doing this, I'm not joking. Every single wrestler that I 108 00:05:24,720 --> 00:05:28,040 Speaker 1: reached out to, but one said anything you need, I 109 00:05:28,080 --> 00:05:33,040 Speaker 1: would love to help you. Just don't hire Phil. And 110 00:05:33,080 --> 00:05:36,400 Speaker 1: this is over ten. It's over ten, okay, And only 111 00:05:36,440 --> 00:05:38,240 Speaker 1: one didn't say anything, and I don't know how they 112 00:05:38,320 --> 00:05:40,720 Speaker 1: feel about the guy, But everybody else is like, don't 113 00:05:40,760 --> 00:05:43,280 Speaker 1: hire Punk, Please, don't hire Punk. Dude, I'll help you out. 114 00:05:43,279 --> 00:05:47,160 Speaker 1: But if you hire Punk, I'm out, like it was everybody, 115 00:05:47,279 --> 00:05:50,839 Speaker 1: and that has to be a mirror that causes you 116 00:05:50,920 --> 00:05:53,480 Speaker 1: to go, yeah, dude, it's time to change. At least 117 00:05:53,520 --> 00:05:55,680 Speaker 1: that's what I think. And again, if you disagree with 118 00:05:55,720 --> 00:05:57,719 Speaker 1: me out there, I got nothing but love for you. 119 00:05:57,920 --> 00:06:01,039 Speaker 1: I may not agree with your tim but I respect it. 120 00:06:01,200 --> 00:06:02,880 Speaker 1: I know everybody loves him and he's one of the 121 00:06:02,880 --> 00:06:07,120 Speaker 1: best to ever do this wrestling thing ever in aspect, 122 00:06:07,800 --> 00:06:08,520 Speaker 1: No go ahead, I. 123 00:06:08,520 --> 00:06:10,599 Speaker 2: Don't think he's the best to ever do this. We 124 00:06:10,640 --> 00:06:14,840 Speaker 2: have an authority problem, right, That's what's happening here. Say 125 00:06:14,839 --> 00:06:17,360 Speaker 2: what you want about Vince McMahon. You could call him 126 00:06:17,360 --> 00:06:22,240 Speaker 2: a tyrant, you could call him a dictator of wrestling. 127 00:06:22,279 --> 00:06:24,840 Speaker 2: You could call him a mean boss or a bad guy. 128 00:06:25,360 --> 00:06:28,920 Speaker 2: At least people respect him in a way that they 129 00:06:29,040 --> 00:06:33,760 Speaker 2: fear him. See him Punk when he crossed Vince McMahon, 130 00:06:33,880 --> 00:06:37,120 Speaker 2: Vince said, that's it. I'm daddy, and you don't work 131 00:06:37,160 --> 00:06:41,800 Speaker 2: here anymore, whereas Tony Kahan refuses to put his to 132 00:06:42,200 --> 00:06:45,360 Speaker 2: have any order or have any respect and fear in 133 00:06:45,400 --> 00:06:48,119 Speaker 2: that locker room. So these guys are just running around 134 00:06:48,120 --> 00:06:51,280 Speaker 2: doing what they want. They're fist fighting, they're they're causing 135 00:06:51,320 --> 00:06:54,159 Speaker 2: like little groups, they're keeping some people out of the 136 00:06:54,160 --> 00:06:57,120 Speaker 2: locker room, keeping its very clicky. If you can't allow that, 137 00:06:57,560 --> 00:06:59,680 Speaker 2: you've got to say, hey, you know, we're running a 138 00:06:59,760 --> 00:07:02,640 Speaker 2: thing here. You know, there's gotta be some rules. You 139 00:07:02,640 --> 00:07:04,640 Speaker 2: can't just punch a guy in the face or choke 140 00:07:04,680 --> 00:07:06,839 Speaker 2: a guy out or whatever the hell happened. Nobody seems 141 00:07:06,839 --> 00:07:09,320 Speaker 2: to have anything, you know, figure out what actually happened, 142 00:07:09,840 --> 00:07:12,400 Speaker 2: and they go, oh, okay, you're not here anymore. And then 143 00:07:12,440 --> 00:07:15,640 Speaker 2: he just comes back months later and he's like headlining 144 00:07:15,720 --> 00:07:17,640 Speaker 2: like a thing. And Tony Kahn saying that he fired 145 00:07:17,720 --> 00:07:21,080 Speaker 2: him was because he knew see him Punk quit, So 146 00:07:21,120 --> 00:07:23,280 Speaker 2: it just made him look like, oh, I fired him, 147 00:07:23,360 --> 00:07:25,960 Speaker 2: like he didn't fire him. In fact, if he came 148 00:07:25,960 --> 00:07:28,600 Speaker 2: in had a little meeting with you next week, you 149 00:07:29,040 --> 00:07:31,720 Speaker 2: would you wouldn't wait a second to have him right 150 00:07:31,760 --> 00:07:33,040 Speaker 2: back on the car, really. 151 00:07:32,920 --> 00:07:34,680 Speaker 1: You think so? Do you think he would bring him 152 00:07:34,720 --> 00:07:38,440 Speaker 1: back again? Wow, it's a money thing. Maybe I don't know, 153 00:07:38,520 --> 00:07:41,880 Speaker 1: it's a money thing. Well, and all Collision dies then yeah, 154 00:07:42,000 --> 00:07:44,320 Speaker 1: because that was punk show. If Collision starts dying in 155 00:07:44,360 --> 00:07:46,440 Speaker 1: the ratings, then wow, what if you're right due? That 156 00:07:46,440 --> 00:07:47,160 Speaker 1: would be insane. 157 00:07:47,440 --> 00:07:49,800 Speaker 2: Well and also Tony Kahan, you know, I know I 158 00:07:49,880 --> 00:07:52,000 Speaker 2: sound like I'm being hard on Tony Kahn, but he's me. 159 00:07:52,680 --> 00:07:55,520 Speaker 2: He's just a big wrestling fan. He loves wrestling, so 160 00:07:55,560 --> 00:07:57,520 Speaker 2: it's like it's hard for him to boss around these 161 00:07:57,520 --> 00:08:01,240 Speaker 2: guys that are older than him. They're they're way super 162 00:08:01,320 --> 00:08:03,840 Speaker 2: more respected in the wrestling world than him. Like it'd 163 00:08:03,880 --> 00:08:05,880 Speaker 2: be like if you let me run Major League Baseball, 164 00:08:05,920 --> 00:08:08,600 Speaker 2: Like I'm just such a big fan that one of 165 00:08:08,640 --> 00:08:10,560 Speaker 2: the players would be like, shut up, man, pay me 166 00:08:10,560 --> 00:08:12,160 Speaker 2: triple and I'd be like, Okay, I mean, I think 167 00:08:12,160 --> 00:08:14,880 Speaker 2: that's how Tony runs it. But he's he's a wrestling 168 00:08:14,960 --> 00:08:18,720 Speaker 2: fan who has a whole federation and deep pockets. So 169 00:08:18,800 --> 00:08:21,360 Speaker 2: I think I don't like what happened but I think 170 00:08:21,360 --> 00:08:25,360 Speaker 2: that because nobody's ever enforced punk, nobody's ever told him like, hey, 171 00:08:25,440 --> 00:08:27,560 Speaker 2: knock this crap off, like you can't behave like this. 172 00:08:27,600 --> 00:08:30,280 Speaker 2: Your attitude sucks. If you're not gonna play nice, you 173 00:08:30,280 --> 00:08:32,520 Speaker 2: don't get to play. But he's just always gotten to 174 00:08:32,520 --> 00:08:41,840 Speaker 2: do what he always wanted. I heard rumors they might 175 00:08:41,840 --> 00:08:43,880 Speaker 2: be going to MMA again. I don't know why you 176 00:08:43,880 --> 00:08:44,640 Speaker 2: would do that. 177 00:08:44,640 --> 00:08:47,640 Speaker 1: That would be hysterical unless he's wanted to get his 178 00:08:47,679 --> 00:08:50,440 Speaker 1: ass whipped again. Like they gave you two bums, bro, 179 00:08:50,880 --> 00:08:53,920 Speaker 1: you couldn't get by either bum and didn't even show out, 180 00:08:54,120 --> 00:08:56,280 Speaker 1: Like didn't even land a punch in the first one, 181 00:08:56,320 --> 00:08:58,319 Speaker 1: not even a punch. And you're not just got it. 182 00:08:58,360 --> 00:09:02,040 Speaker 1: You're getting older, not getting younger. You know, it's not well, 183 00:09:02,040 --> 00:09:04,280 Speaker 1: it's like the wrestlers that I know said that was 184 00:09:04,320 --> 00:09:06,520 Speaker 1: the main issue is that he can't work the way 185 00:09:06,520 --> 00:09:08,880 Speaker 1: he used to, and these young guys can do all 186 00:09:08,920 --> 00:09:11,280 Speaker 1: this crazy shit and he can't. And you saw him 187 00:09:11,320 --> 00:09:13,280 Speaker 1: even try to do some of these things like Hangman, 188 00:09:13,360 --> 00:09:15,959 Speaker 1: pages Buckshot lariat and he kind of fucked that up, 189 00:09:16,160 --> 00:09:18,840 Speaker 1: couldn't stick the landing, his knees gave out on him 190 00:09:18,840 --> 00:09:20,439 Speaker 1: like that kind of stuff is a lot of the 191 00:09:20,440 --> 00:09:22,840 Speaker 1: wrestlers that I was talking. He said, that's why he 192 00:09:22,840 --> 00:09:24,680 Speaker 1: he was the way he was, And my thing was, 193 00:09:24,679 --> 00:09:26,760 Speaker 1: like he was like that when I know him. His 194 00:09:26,880 --> 00:09:28,760 Speaker 1: back was hurting all the time. And I get being 195 00:09:28,760 --> 00:09:31,439 Speaker 1: grumpy when you're in pain, but you gotta treat people 196 00:09:31,480 --> 00:09:34,920 Speaker 1: with dignity, not respect. Okay, respect is earned. I get 197 00:09:34,920 --> 00:09:37,720 Speaker 1: that respect is earned, but every human that you interact 198 00:09:37,800 --> 00:09:41,600 Speaker 1: with should be given the opportunity to earn your respect, 199 00:09:41,960 --> 00:09:44,920 Speaker 1: and dignity should be a given. And when you can't 200 00:09:44,920 --> 00:09:49,520 Speaker 1: provide either one of those things, it's a you issue. 201 00:09:49,880 --> 00:09:53,720 Speaker 1: It's not millennials driving you crazy. It's not all young people. 202 00:09:53,800 --> 00:09:56,120 Speaker 1: Don't get it. They said the same shit about my generation, 203 00:09:56,200 --> 00:09:58,280 Speaker 1: all you young people, so don't worry about it. It's 204 00:09:58,320 --> 00:10:00,600 Speaker 1: just old people freaking out. They you don't have to 205 00:10:00,600 --> 00:10:02,920 Speaker 1: work as hard as they did because they made the 206 00:10:02,960 --> 00:10:05,640 Speaker 1: world easier for you, and now are punishing you for 207 00:10:05,880 --> 00:10:08,439 Speaker 1: making it easier, like they were the ones that did 208 00:10:08,440 --> 00:10:10,480 Speaker 1: all that work. And then they see you and they 209 00:10:10,520 --> 00:10:13,320 Speaker 1: just want to punish you. And it's I've seen it 210 00:10:13,360 --> 00:10:15,840 Speaker 1: happen so many times, and all these young people are 211 00:10:15,840 --> 00:10:20,000 Speaker 1: sitting there like, what fuck you man, No, and if 212 00:10:20,000 --> 00:10:22,840 Speaker 1: you gotta at a certain point look in the mirror 213 00:10:22,840 --> 00:10:26,080 Speaker 1: and say, is what I'm doing working? And when you 214 00:10:26,160 --> 00:10:30,840 Speaker 1: have this many years of it, not that should be 215 00:10:30,880 --> 00:10:33,000 Speaker 1: a clue. He's still to me one of the best 216 00:10:33,080 --> 00:10:35,520 Speaker 1: on the mic, in the ring, all that stuff. I'm 217 00:10:35,520 --> 00:10:39,320 Speaker 1: not discrediting the man's work, but I think everything you 218 00:10:39,360 --> 00:10:42,079 Speaker 1: and I have said in this episode of own Sanction 219 00:10:42,200 --> 00:10:48,319 Speaker 1: Thursdays has been completely fair and appropriate criticism. Artists can 220 00:10:48,360 --> 00:10:50,520 Speaker 1: be criticized. I'm not trying to shit on the guy. 221 00:10:50,559 --> 00:10:54,280 Speaker 1: This is legit criticism and there's nothing wrong with that. 222 00:10:54,400 --> 00:10:57,600 Speaker 2: My final thought on the cmpunk, I mean, maybe the 223 00:10:57,640 --> 00:11:02,960 Speaker 2: guy needs a drink. You know this straight out, Just 224 00:11:03,000 --> 00:11:06,680 Speaker 2: have a beer, buddy, Relax a little, go shake hands 225 00:11:06,679 --> 00:11:09,480 Speaker 2: with a few of your few of your coworkers. You know, 226 00:11:09,640 --> 00:11:13,319 Speaker 2: maybe maybe take it like he's so intense, Jesus Christ, 227 00:11:13,600 --> 00:11:14,400 Speaker 2: just have a drink. 228 00:11:14,640 --> 00:11:17,760 Speaker 1: He just needs a drink. JA when he had that 229 00:11:17,840 --> 00:11:20,360 Speaker 1: number with JBL back in the day, that was the 230 00:11:20,520 --> 00:11:22,520 Speaker 1: That was the angle is he had a bottle of 231 00:11:22,600 --> 00:11:24,559 Speaker 1: Jack Daniels and he's like, hey, how about a drink? 232 00:11:24,679 --> 00:11:26,400 Speaker 1: And then the pitch was I don't know if they 233 00:11:26,400 --> 00:11:28,640 Speaker 1: did it, it was Punk instead of taking the drink, 234 00:11:28,640 --> 00:11:31,240 Speaker 1: grabs the bottle and breaks it over JBL's head because 235 00:11:31,280 --> 00:11:33,480 Speaker 1: he would never drink. But he should have had that whiskey. 236 00:11:33,520 --> 00:11:34,600 Speaker 1: He should have had a little whiskey. 237 00:11:34,760 --> 00:11:38,840 Speaker 2: I'm telling you, he just seems so frustrated and grumpy 238 00:11:38,920 --> 00:11:42,120 Speaker 2: and judgmental and opinionated. They think maybe just you know, 239 00:11:42,200 --> 00:11:43,080 Speaker 2: needs to relax a little. 240 00:11:43,200 --> 00:11:46,240 Speaker 1: Let's talk Ricky Starks Brian Danielson, who I believe is 241 00:11:46,280 --> 00:11:49,679 Speaker 1: the replacement for CM Punk. I think Brian Danielson is 242 00:11:49,679 --> 00:11:53,600 Speaker 1: going to be the new lead of of UH Saturday 243 00:11:53,679 --> 00:11:56,079 Speaker 1: Night Collision. I think Ricky Starks is going to be 244 00:11:56,120 --> 00:11:58,679 Speaker 1: the lead villain on Saturday Night Collision. I think this 245 00:11:58,760 --> 00:12:00,840 Speaker 1: is Tony Conn's way of trying to the Damn Show 246 00:12:00,920 --> 00:12:03,840 Speaker 1: is by putting one of the greatest wrestlers in the world, 247 00:12:04,200 --> 00:12:08,199 Speaker 1: Brian Danielson, the American Dragon who got the strap match 248 00:12:08,440 --> 00:12:13,920 Speaker 1: versus Ricky Starks. I freaking loved this match. I every 249 00:12:13,960 --> 00:12:15,880 Speaker 1: second of it, from the very beginning when Ricky's like, 250 00:12:15,920 --> 00:12:17,840 Speaker 1: I'm gonna beat your ass before this match even starts, 251 00:12:18,120 --> 00:12:20,760 Speaker 1: waited for him to get strapped up first, beat him down, 252 00:12:20,800 --> 00:12:23,240 Speaker 1: gets in the middle of the ring, Danielson gigs himself. 253 00:12:23,400 --> 00:12:26,439 Speaker 1: That means cuts yourself, so you believe people. So when 254 00:12:26,440 --> 00:12:28,360 Speaker 1: they cut back to him, he's already pouring blood and 255 00:12:28,360 --> 00:12:30,960 Speaker 1: then Ricky just starts punching the cut and of course 256 00:12:31,040 --> 00:12:34,880 Speaker 1: Danielson's face because aew is a crimson mak O Mackau 257 00:12:35,600 --> 00:12:38,040 Speaker 1: just like your werewolf John Moxley, who by the way, 258 00:12:38,160 --> 00:12:42,400 Speaker 1: won the International Championship from Orange Cassidy. Cassidy finally lost, 259 00:12:42,800 --> 00:12:46,439 Speaker 1: but this match was brutal. This is one of those 260 00:12:46,480 --> 00:12:49,360 Speaker 1: matches where both guys are like, all right, dude, this 261 00:12:49,480 --> 00:12:51,840 Speaker 1: is gonna hurt a lot and I'm really sorry, and 262 00:12:51,840 --> 00:12:53,480 Speaker 1: they're like, no, no, no, it's cool. It's cool. This is 263 00:12:53,480 --> 00:12:56,360 Speaker 1: why professional wrestlers are tough. And I'm not because if 264 00:12:56,360 --> 00:12:58,319 Speaker 1: somebody who was like, hey man, we can get you 265 00:12:58,400 --> 00:13:00,920 Speaker 1: two million dollars for this strap match against MJF and 266 00:13:00,920 --> 00:13:03,000 Speaker 1: here's the story, I'd be like, I'm sorry, what match? 267 00:13:03,200 --> 00:13:05,600 Speaker 1: What are you talking about? Man? I'm not getting whipped. 268 00:13:05,640 --> 00:13:07,560 Speaker 1: I don't mean whiped since my mom whooped my ass 269 00:13:07,559 --> 00:13:10,240 Speaker 1: when I was nine years old and screw that. But 270 00:13:10,280 --> 00:13:12,320 Speaker 1: these guys went back and forth. They beat each other's 271 00:13:12,360 --> 00:13:14,760 Speaker 1: asses like Trician Becky did in that steel cage match, 272 00:13:15,080 --> 00:13:17,560 Speaker 1: and I loved it and the cool thing was and 273 00:13:17,640 --> 00:13:21,560 Speaker 1: I hate postmatch scrums. I don't think Tony should do 274 00:13:21,600 --> 00:13:24,000 Speaker 1: any of these scrums. I think we're stupid. But Brian 275 00:13:24,080 --> 00:13:27,120 Speaker 1: Danielson did say which I thought was a huge compliment 276 00:13:27,160 --> 00:13:29,400 Speaker 1: to Ricky Starks. He said, Ricky carried me through that 277 00:13:29,480 --> 00:13:32,520 Speaker 1: whole match because he was coming off that broken arm, 278 00:13:32,559 --> 00:13:34,199 Speaker 1: and you could see the skinny arm, you can tell 279 00:13:34,240 --> 00:13:37,040 Speaker 1: which one was broken. But he said, Ricky Starks carried 280 00:13:37,080 --> 00:13:39,240 Speaker 1: him through that whole match. And I really am starting 281 00:13:39,240 --> 00:13:40,959 Speaker 1: to believe that Ricky's going to become the wrestler that 282 00:13:41,000 --> 00:13:44,160 Speaker 1: I hope he could always be. A few months ago, 283 00:13:44,200 --> 00:13:45,400 Speaker 1: I think I said it. I was like, yo, I 284 00:13:45,440 --> 00:13:46,920 Speaker 1: think this guy can be a star if he just 285 00:13:46,960 --> 00:13:50,320 Speaker 1: gets the right chance, the right opportunity, and he's getting it. 286 00:13:50,360 --> 00:13:52,720 Speaker 1: He got Cmpunk first. Even though he lost, he's still 287 00:13:52,720 --> 00:13:54,800 Speaker 1: got some wins and tag matches and shit and some 288 00:13:54,840 --> 00:13:57,520 Speaker 1: shady wins. And now with Brian Danielson, I mean that's 289 00:13:57,520 --> 00:14:00,160 Speaker 1: the top two dudes, Brian being the new lead and 290 00:14:00,280 --> 00:14:03,280 Speaker 1: Ricky still being the freaking man. But I love this match, 291 00:14:03,360 --> 00:14:05,880 Speaker 1: and I don't normally I get a little squeamish with 292 00:14:05,920 --> 00:14:09,000 Speaker 1: real blood. I prefer fake blood in horror movies. CGI 293 00:14:09,120 --> 00:14:11,040 Speaker 1: blood is nice to But I love this match, dude, 294 00:14:11,080 --> 00:14:11,560 Speaker 1: what about you? 295 00:14:11,640 --> 00:14:13,800 Speaker 2: I just thought of a great idea that a e 296 00:14:14,040 --> 00:14:16,280 Speaker 2: W should do while you were while you were talking 297 00:14:16,280 --> 00:14:20,240 Speaker 2: about you know, this should some of these guys from 298 00:14:20,800 --> 00:14:23,480 Speaker 2: Elite and they click and all these guys, they should 299 00:14:23,560 --> 00:14:26,160 Speaker 2: just make a belt like see them punks, you know, 300 00:14:26,200 --> 00:14:30,240 Speaker 2: with the big X on it, and just literally capitalize 301 00:14:30,240 --> 00:14:32,800 Speaker 2: off the CM punk thing, being like, you know, we 302 00:14:32,840 --> 00:14:35,440 Speaker 2: had to, we had to finally finish something up. You know, 303 00:14:35,800 --> 00:14:37,560 Speaker 2: they don't ever have to say his name, be like 304 00:14:37,840 --> 00:14:40,920 Speaker 2: we just took care of some Chicago douchebag, and they 305 00:14:41,040 --> 00:14:42,560 Speaker 2: like they have the belt and they just make a 306 00:14:42,560 --> 00:14:45,360 Speaker 2: whole storyline the punk's not a part of and he's 307 00:14:45,440 --> 00:14:47,440 Speaker 2: just he's just gone, Like that's the way that they 308 00:14:47,480 --> 00:14:49,400 Speaker 2: get rid of him. And they squatch the whole thing 309 00:14:50,080 --> 00:14:53,440 Speaker 2: with his belt and act like we beat his ass. 310 00:14:53,520 --> 00:14:55,920 Speaker 2: We're not going to say his name, whoever we're talking about, 311 00:14:56,040 --> 00:14:58,760 Speaker 2: but we got his belt right here, pissed punk off 312 00:14:58,800 --> 00:15:00,920 Speaker 2: and be like, you know, hey, guess what, we're still 313 00:15:01,360 --> 00:15:05,000 Speaker 2: we're still making money off of your antics. Back here, 314 00:15:05,080 --> 00:15:06,960 Speaker 2: but yeah, I think you're right that he's going to 315 00:15:07,000 --> 00:15:10,240 Speaker 2: be the face from here on out. And Ricky Starks 316 00:15:10,320 --> 00:15:13,920 Speaker 2: is our producer. We've mentioned him many many times who 317 00:15:13,920 --> 00:15:17,000 Speaker 2: we love. Alex sent us the photo while we're talking 318 00:15:17,000 --> 00:15:21,600 Speaker 2: about it of Ricky Stark's back, and it is cringey, 319 00:15:22,600 --> 00:15:23,200 Speaker 2: to say the. 320 00:15:23,200 --> 00:15:25,000 Speaker 1: Least, just what my ass would look like when I 321 00:15:25,000 --> 00:15:28,680 Speaker 1: pissed my mom off. The whole match, everything was insane. 322 00:15:28,720 --> 00:15:30,600 Speaker 1: I really liked it. I thought that they really stepped 323 00:15:30,600 --> 00:15:30,800 Speaker 1: it up. 324 00:15:30,880 --> 00:15:34,720 Speaker 2: And dude, Aw's becoming infinitely better than WWE. To me, 325 00:15:34,880 --> 00:15:36,520 Speaker 2: I never thought I would ever say that. But if 326 00:15:36,520 --> 00:15:40,440 Speaker 2: I'm like, so in on AW, all right, we're closing 327 00:15:40,480 --> 00:15:44,280 Speaker 2: with this dude powerhouse Hobbs versus Miro. 328 00:15:45,000 --> 00:15:47,360 Speaker 1: Now, I've said this on the podcast a lot of times, 329 00:15:47,520 --> 00:15:49,400 Speaker 1: and it's I don't get to take credit for it, 330 00:15:49,440 --> 00:15:51,400 Speaker 1: but I am going to try and sneak my way 331 00:15:51,400 --> 00:15:53,920 Speaker 1: in and take credit for this one. Biggie in a 332 00:15:54,040 --> 00:15:59,200 Speaker 1: podcast once describe wrestling as meaty men slapping meat and 333 00:15:59,240 --> 00:16:02,240 Speaker 1: I saw it on like a deep dive wrestling Instagram 334 00:16:02,840 --> 00:16:05,560 Speaker 1: like dive where you're just scrolling through wrestling posts, right 335 00:16:05,600 --> 00:16:07,440 Speaker 1: and all of a sudden, like a podcast comes in 336 00:16:07,480 --> 00:16:09,840 Speaker 1: and it's a wrestler instead of wrestling, they're just talking 337 00:16:10,400 --> 00:16:12,280 Speaker 1: and he said that, and I died laughing, and I've 338 00:16:12,280 --> 00:16:14,200 Speaker 1: set it a bunch on this. Well, apparently I'm not 339 00:16:14,240 --> 00:16:17,320 Speaker 1: the only one that fell through that that wrestling hole 340 00:16:17,480 --> 00:16:21,360 Speaker 1: on Instagram, because the entire crowd of aw all out 341 00:16:21,840 --> 00:16:27,440 Speaker 1: started chanting various versions of meaty men slapping meat. They 342 00:16:28,320 --> 00:16:33,360 Speaker 1: were screaming, slap that meat, slap that meat. Meet forever 343 00:16:33,680 --> 00:16:37,920 Speaker 1: clap clap, clop, clop, clap, meat forever clap clap, clap clap. 344 00:16:38,120 --> 00:16:41,760 Speaker 1: This is meat, this is meat instead of this is awesome. 345 00:16:41,880 --> 00:16:45,920 Speaker 1: Like they committed so hard to this, and I'm not 346 00:16:46,040 --> 00:16:48,440 Speaker 1: even lying. It didn't ruin the match because the guys 347 00:16:48,440 --> 00:16:52,520 Speaker 1: were really good and busting each other's ass. But I honestly, 348 00:16:52,960 --> 00:16:54,600 Speaker 1: normally I get mad at the crowd. You guys know, 349 00:16:54,640 --> 00:16:57,000 Speaker 1: I get pissed off as you for hijacking matches. This 350 00:16:57,080 --> 00:16:59,880 Speaker 1: was the world's greatest hijack ever. I loved it. I 351 00:17:00,160 --> 00:17:03,400 Speaker 1: love that you guys stole it, and thank you so much. 352 00:17:03,480 --> 00:17:05,520 Speaker 1: And if you don't want to give credit to Biggie, 353 00:17:05,960 --> 00:17:07,879 Speaker 1: maybe you're mad at Biggie even though he's like the 354 00:17:07,960 --> 00:17:10,280 Speaker 1: nicest guy in the world. Give credit to Jeff and 355 00:17:10,320 --> 00:17:13,400 Speaker 1: I and we'll just say that we put that term 356 00:17:13,440 --> 00:17:15,200 Speaker 1: over and that's the reason why it was That's the 357 00:17:15,240 --> 00:17:18,040 Speaker 1: reason why I was said, we're very influential. We're rewriting it. 358 00:17:18,080 --> 00:17:19,960 Speaker 1: We're rewriting the history. We came up with all this. 359 00:17:20,119 --> 00:17:23,720 Speaker 1: It's our idea. Yeah, it's right, it's right, this is me, 360 00:17:24,280 --> 00:17:27,920 Speaker 1: this is me. This match cracked me up. Welcome back, CJ. Perry. 361 00:17:28,520 --> 00:17:31,160 Speaker 1: It was really nice to see Lana from the wwe 362 00:17:31,200 --> 00:17:33,760 Speaker 1: come and try to protect her. Man cool, but a 363 00:17:33,800 --> 00:17:36,840 Speaker 1: really cool match meet him in slapping meat. I loved it. 364 00:17:37,240 --> 00:17:41,960 Speaker 1: And here's a little personal business news because we're talking 365 00:17:42,080 --> 00:17:47,560 Speaker 1: Premiere Streaming Network. You guys listen, we had star cast. 366 00:17:47,640 --> 00:17:49,399 Speaker 1: It was a big success over the weekend. 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We're proud to have them on the 376 00:18:19,040 --> 00:18:21,199 Speaker 1: network and you can check both those out too. That 377 00:18:21,280 --> 00:18:25,240 Speaker 1: is the Premiere streaming network. The show is this coming Saturday. 378 00:18:25,520 --> 00:18:28,720 Speaker 1: You guys can watch the wrestling Showcase this coming Saturday, 379 00:18:28,800 --> 00:18:34,439 Speaker 1: Matt Cardona versus Colt Cabana for the Premiere Championship. We 380 00:18:34,520 --> 00:18:37,000 Speaker 1: have a bunch of other events as well. Check them out. 381 00:18:37,080 --> 00:18:39,560 Speaker 1: Download the app now, sign up. You get two free 382 00:18:39,600 --> 00:18:43,399 Speaker 1: months of Premiere Plus. And that's all the work I 383 00:18:43,440 --> 00:18:45,600 Speaker 1: have to tell you guys to do. I'm a half 384 00:18:45,600 --> 00:18:48,320 Speaker 1: of Jeff I. I'm Freddi Prince Junior. And this was 385 00:18:48,680 --> 00:18:51,480 Speaker 1: on Sanction Thursdays. Peace. 386 00:18:51,640 --> 00:18:52,520 Speaker 2: Yeah. 387 00:18:52,840 --> 00:18:55,960 Speaker 1: This has been a production of Iheart's Michael Toura podcast Network. 388 00:18:56,000 --> 00:18:59,639 Speaker 1: For more podcasts from iHeartRadio, visit the iHeartRadio app, Apple 389 00:18:59,680 --> 00:19:02,520 Speaker 1: podc casts, or wherever you listen to your favorite shows. 390 00:19:09,640 --> 00:19:10,120 Speaker 1: M hmm.