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<v Speaker 1>This is the Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous podcast

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<v Speaker 1>with iHeartRadio.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey guys, welcome to the Almost Famous podcast.

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<v Speaker 3>Guess What. I'm joined by Jared again this sweek.

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<v Speaker 4>It's Me?

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<v Speaker 3>Are you so to me? Chackica, Jared and I will

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<v Speaker 3>never be able to say the words it's me without

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<v Speaker 3>thinking of Rob Schneider in The Hot Check.

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<v Speaker 4>The Hot Check?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. I love that movie so much.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it's a great one. Rachel mcaddams before she was

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<v Speaker 4>Rachel mcaddams. Yeah, I know, was that before Me and Girls?

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<v Speaker 3>I think it may have been like six months before, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>six months before.

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<v Speaker 4>So crazy.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>I remember thinking she was so hot in that movie,

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<v Speaker 4>and then who would have thought, like, oh, that is

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<v Speaker 4>Rachel McAdams. That's similar to the movie Almost Time with

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<v Speaker 4>I forget the actor's name, but Bill Nye plays the

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<v Speaker 4>father where the guy can go and go back in

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<v Speaker 4>time and it's right around the time his dad dies.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't but Margot Robbie's in it before she was

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<v Speaker 4>Marco Robbins.

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<v Speaker 2>About Time, I was like, I don't know a movie

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<v Speaker 2>called that, Okay, yeah, about Time? And I remember watching

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<v Speaker 2>About Time and being like that might be the prettiest,

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<v Speaker 2>but have everything in my entire life.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh my god, my god, it's so funny because Rachel

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<v Speaker 4>McAdams is also in that movie and she plays his

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<v Speaker 4>love injury. Yeah, but but she it's hotter well in

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<v Speaker 4>that movie, in that movie specifically, But then you have

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<v Speaker 4>an argument like who is prettier like Margot, Robbie or

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<v Speaker 4>Ray McAdams.

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<v Speaker 2>If I understand, there's really there, they're all in there

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<v Speaker 2>in that movie.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, well, of course pretty. But in that movie, hold on,

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<v Speaker 4>I gotta finish my Rachel McAdams intentionally doesn't look as

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<v Speaker 4>good because I think so, Yeah, they spress.

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<v Speaker 3>Her down to look like more like momish exactly.

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<v Speaker 4>And and also I forget, god, I forget the guy's name.

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<v Speaker 4>But you know, let's be honest, it's not like he's ugly,

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<v Speaker 4>but like she's way out of his leag So if

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<v Speaker 4>it was Rachel McAdams and him movie, no, it's no.

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<v Speaker 4>Jim Sturge is beautiful. I forget he's still.

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<v Speaker 2>We have nothing to say about this episode. We'll get well,

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<v Speaker 2>we'll get to in a second, but now I just

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<v Speaker 2>want to say I thought that should I look it up?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, he's redhead. He's a really good actor. He was

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<v Speaker 4>in Star Wars Glacier. I mean, yep, there he is,

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<v Speaker 4>or dom Donald. No, it's Domin Domino. Yeah, it's spelled.

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<v Speaker 4>They just had it there. It is doumb Hall. He's

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<v Speaker 4>not a bad looking guy by any French, but you know,

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<v Speaker 4>I mean Rachel, you know.

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<v Speaker 3>Ch Rich McAdams is Jared's like great movie.

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<v Speaker 4>By the way, holy Ship, you haven't seen them. I

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<v Speaker 4>remember watching that and I was like, who is this blonde?

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<v Speaker 4>I know, I thought the same thing.

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<v Speaker 3>I was like, am I a lesbian right now?

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<v Speaker 4>I was like, listen, I love to because I'm so much,

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<v Speaker 4>but bro go with her read of your mind anyway?

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<v Speaker 2>Also, could I say that in the Hot Chick where

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<v Speaker 2>is where this conversation started, I thought that Anna Faris

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<v Speaker 2>was so pretty.

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<v Speaker 3>I just want to look like.

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<v Speaker 4>I think Anna Faris is pretty underrated.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>Have you ever seen the movie Waiting where it's with

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<v Speaker 4>her and Ryan Reynolds. They play they work in a restaurant,

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<v Speaker 4>justin Long's in. It came out in two thousand and five.

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<v Speaker 4>It's an old one never really took off.

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<v Speaker 3>The movies are the two of them?

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<v Speaker 4>Uh that and Just Friends? But I think she well,

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<v Speaker 4>she also wears Eyeliner, which actually knows is my I

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<v Speaker 4>love dude.

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<v Speaker 3>Jared loves Island, black Eyelander all the way around.

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<v Speaker 4>And I think Ana fars is very pretty.

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<v Speaker 2>Anyway anyway, okay, well you know who else is very pretty?

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<v Speaker 3>All Joan and all her men very pretty, very nice man.

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<v Speaker 4>This mentell all was a celebration of the season, which

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<v Speaker 4>I am glad they did it this way if they

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<v Speaker 4>were going to do a men tell all, I'm glad

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<v Speaker 4>that the structure of the show was this and they

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<v Speaker 4>didn't try to insert some sort of drama between the

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<v Speaker 4>guys and instead just celebrating the friendships that were gathered

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<v Speaker 4>like that. Having said that they should just never have

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<v Speaker 4>had a mental.

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<v Speaker 3>Well okay, but do you know why they had a

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<v Speaker 3>mentell all?

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<v Speaker 2>In my theory, even though it probably costs them a bit,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know what the ratio is for, like what's

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<v Speaker 2>worth it for them.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm sure ABC needed a certain set amount of episodes

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<v Speaker 4>and what the structure of the show is set in

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<v Speaker 4>a way that you know it's it's it's kind of like, well,

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<v Speaker 4>of course we'll do a mental all.

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<v Speaker 2>No, Okay, my theory is this they did it? Okay, Well, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>you're right, they're always gonna do it. I don't think

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<v Speaker 2>there's been a season with that one besides Paradise seasons,

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<v Speaker 2>which sometimes people are requesting Paradise seasons over something like that.

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<v Speaker 4>It's done some reunions, some.

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<v Speaker 3>Sort of catchups.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, an episode like this you would think would be

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<v Speaker 2>paired with a regular episode just because like we needed more,

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<v Speaker 2>especially since it was an hour and a half episode.

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<v Speaker 4>This was an hour and a half. It wasn't too yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>it felt like to them, No.

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<v Speaker 3>Actually it felt short to me. It's so weird.

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<v Speaker 2>So normally I would think that they would tack on

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<v Speaker 2>like thirty minutes of real drama from like Fantasy Suites

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<v Speaker 2>or The Final Two or something, and then they would

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<v Speaker 2>put mentel all at the end of that. This week,

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<v Speaker 2>I think they're like, okay, well, the plan is to

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<v Speaker 2>air it Wednesday after the election. Nobody knows whether or

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<v Speaker 2>not the results will be here by then. People are

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<v Speaker 2>not thinking about the Golden Bachelorette this week, so it's

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<v Speaker 2>perfect timing to throw a mentell.

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<v Speaker 3>All on a Wednesday night.

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<v Speaker 2>Nobody needs to see it, but it's there as light,

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<v Speaker 2>fluffy content if they want it, and if if it

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<v Speaker 2>even gets to air.

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<v Speaker 4>I agree, Yeah, they probably should have just took a week

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<v Speaker 4>off Election week. A lot's going on high.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, just you know, George, Sorry, she's just talking to me.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you think they will I think that in a

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<v Speaker 2>regular week, at a regular time, they would have just

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<v Speaker 2>like done a back to back episode. They're just like, no, no,

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<v Speaker 2>it's okay, Well the store.

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<v Speaker 4>I agree, you know what I'm talking about. Yes, of

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<v Speaker 4>course they didn't want to put anything consequential into this

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<v Speaker 4>episode because they knew exactly not a lot of people

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<v Speaker 4>are probably gonna watch it. Yeh, Because it's the day

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<v Speaker 4>after election. No one's thinking about the Golden Bachelorette, even

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<v Speaker 4>though you know, it was funny. I went on Yahoo

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<v Speaker 4>this morning just to check the news, and the top

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<v Speaker 4>like scroll side by side was you know, Trump about

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<v Speaker 4>Trump winning the election, and then right next door was

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<v Speaker 4>Golden Bachelorette recap, and I'm like, god, I can't believe

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<v Speaker 4>those two things are side by side.

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<v Speaker 3>That's funny.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, So the episode itself has absolutely zero drama,

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<v Speaker 2>which is as wonderful the least dramatic read and.

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<v Speaker 4>Is it wonderful?

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<v Speaker 3>No, this is wonderful.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's wonderful because they didn't even try because

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<v Speaker 2>they were like, oh, we don't have any so let's

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<v Speaker 2>not try. So it's really could have just been called

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<v Speaker 2>like the celebration of the men.

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<v Speaker 3>You were bored, and I actually thought it was sweet.

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<v Speaker 3>I wasn't particularly bored, but I will tell you this,

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<v Speaker 3>it's very sweet.

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<v Speaker 2>Qualify episodes based on like, is this a scroll episode?

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<v Speaker 2>Like where I'm on my phone scrolling or trying to

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<v Speaker 2>do something else while watching, which, of course, you guys,

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<v Speaker 2>this is my job to recap.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't do that, but like it's my compulsion. Do

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<v Speaker 3>I wish I would be doing that? You know what

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<v Speaker 3>I mean? Now this case, because it was a.

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<v Speaker 2>Tell all, I was like, and Jared was already previewing

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<v Speaker 2>to me that it was slow or inconsequential. I was like, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>well then I'm going to Christmas decorate during this, so

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<v Speaker 2>I did okay. And I do have to say that, like,

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<v Speaker 2>if I were to sit down and just dedicate my

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<v Speaker 2>time fully to this episode would have been like, oh no,

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<v Speaker 2>but I was nice to have in the background as

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<v Speaker 2>like a podcast. That's what it was to me, a podcast.

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<v Speaker 4>This is a great example as to why I'm not

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<v Speaker 4>a TV guy because The Bachelor, Right, obviously, it's given

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<v Speaker 4>us more in our lives than we could possibly have

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<v Speaker 4>ever asked for. It's one of the most successful shows

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<v Speaker 4>of all time, longest running shows. I mean, it's it's,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, a place in TV history cannot be understated,

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<v Speaker 4>the Bachelor franchise. But like every show goes through this

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<v Speaker 4>where there's just episodes where it's like, why am I

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<v Speaker 4>watching this for an hour and a half? Why am

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<v Speaker 4>I watching this? And it's but this is exactly why,

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<v Speaker 4>well hold on. But this is exactly why I'm not

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<v Speaker 4>a TV guy because there's so many times with multitude

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<v Speaker 4>of television shows, whether it be I don't know, breaking

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<v Speaker 4>bad or whatever you're you're biting not breaking bad.

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<v Speaker 2>Every episode is consequent Ozarks. I thought that was too

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<v Speaker 2>slow to continue?

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<v Speaker 4>Is it Ozark or Ozark Ozark?

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<v Speaker 3>Anyway?

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<v Speaker 4>Ozark one of the widely considered one of the greatest shows.

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<v Speaker 4>But like so many times, there's episodes I hear from

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<v Speaker 4>people like, oh, you got to get through four episodes

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<v Speaker 4>and then it gets really going. It's like, so you're

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<v Speaker 4>telling me I got to dedicate almost five hours of

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<v Speaker 4>my life.

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<v Speaker 3>Will tell me that what's the show that with Catherine O'Hara.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh, I get the uh sure, like, oh no, I'm

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<v Speaker 4>oh it, Shit's creak.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, shit's creak.

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<v Speaker 2>People tell me that I have to watch the whole

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<v Speaker 2>first season it shit's creaked to start to like it.

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<v Speaker 3>At the beginning of season two?

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<v Speaker 4>What are we doing with our lives?

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<v Speaker 3>You know?

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<v Speaker 4>And I get that people do that, and it's a thing,

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<v Speaker 4>and I respect it because I wish I could do.

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<v Speaker 3>It with some shows and some shows you don't.

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<v Speaker 2>And my retaliation point is that we love TV because

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<v Speaker 2>we get so close to the characters.

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<v Speaker 3>We feel like we really know them so much more

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<v Speaker 3>than a movie.

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<v Speaker 2>In an episode like this where mental all super sweet,

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<v Speaker 2>no drama filler episode, we just want to see them.

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<v Speaker 2>We just want to see more of their personality. And

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<v Speaker 2>that's all we just.

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<v Speaker 4>That's fair, that's fair.

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<v Speaker 2>You don't like, you don't like, you don't need the Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>there's something you don't need, access personality.

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<v Speaker 3>I love character development, give me all of it.

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<v Speaker 4>I love character precise, but no, there's also a subtlety

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<v Speaker 4>to character development that I really appreciate. Like in movies,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, there's so much to be said in silent

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<v Speaker 4>moments like one of the this I always uses an example.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm sorry and going off track right now, but I

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<v Speaker 4>not really if you get me on this podcast, I'm sorry,

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<v Speaker 4>this is what we're going to talk about. But there's

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<v Speaker 4>a scene in the party where I could talk about this.

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<v Speaker 4>So there's a scene between Leonardo DiCaprio and Matt Damon

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<v Speaker 4>and uh, forget Martin Sheen's character dies, he's like the

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<v Speaker 4>Captain DiCaprio has his phone or like he's got the

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<v Speaker 4>rats phone or something like that, and Matt Damon calls

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<v Speaker 4>the phone and Leo knows it's the Rat but doesn't

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<v Speaker 4>know who it is, and he picks up the phone. No, no,

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<v Speaker 4>it's just dead silence. Yeah, yeah, And it just puts

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<v Speaker 4>back and forth between both guys just hearing each other

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<v Speaker 4>breathe on the phone. And in that moment, there is

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<v Speaker 4>more character development in that twenty seconds of silence than

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<v Speaker 4>in most movies, you know what I mean. It's just

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<v Speaker 4>like it's it's a chef's kiss.

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<v Speaker 3>It is great. I see it play in my head

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<v Speaker 3>right now.

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<v Speaker 4>That like just everything in that moment, the tension just

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<v Speaker 4>just oh god, it's so good.

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<v Speaker 2>Anyway, Okay, during the strip day, Jonathan says that he's

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<v Speaker 2>never stripped before. It didn't we didn't believe him, and

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<v Speaker 2>then they reasked the question here.

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<v Speaker 4>He has never done it, professor. Very funny, That was

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<v Speaker 4>very funny.

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<v Speaker 2>We also find out that Jonathan has a girlfriend, which

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<v Speaker 2>means that Jonathan is off of the Golden Bachelor list,

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<v Speaker 2>which is disappointing to me as it seems as if

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<v Speaker 2>Mark might also have a girlfriend. So to my two

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<v Speaker 2>lead picks both have girlfriends.

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<v Speaker 4>Is there going to be a Golden Bachelor.

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<v Speaker 3>And they were casting for it in the commercials?

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<v Speaker 4>Oh? Then yes? Oh okay. Do you think that they

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<v Speaker 4>should pick someone from Jones season or do they Do

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<v Speaker 4>you think that they should pick.

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<v Speaker 3>Uh celebrity studcaster?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, like an old celebrity. I mean because listen, obviously

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<v Speaker 4>I love the format of the show.

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<v Speaker 3>I think it needs a little pick me up.

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<v Speaker 4>I think it needs a little pick me up.

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<v Speaker 3>I think this might be a little pick when we

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<v Speaker 3>might need it.

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<v Speaker 4>So, who do you haven't.

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<v Speaker 2>Done a celebrity stunt casting? In Forever? Jesse was the

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<v Speaker 2>celebrity stunt casting.

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<v Speaker 3>So was Baldwin? Wasn't Baldwin one of the Baldwin brothers, right.

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<v Speaker 4>I have.

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<v Speaker 3>I thought he was. I was very young when his

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<v Speaker 3>season came out.

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<v Speaker 2>And then there was the Prince that was kind of stunty,

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<v Speaker 2>but Jesse was the celebrity stunt cast.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I bet that there's an older celebrity who would

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<v Speaker 4>be willing to do You definitely be down to do it.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>They plugged Charles as possibly the next Bachelor, a Golden Bachelor.

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<v Speaker 2>As they they call him out in the middle of

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<v Speaker 2>the crowd. They have some you know stage moment where

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<v Speaker 2>a fan says, Charles for Golden Bachelor.

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<v Speaker 3>If not, then my mom, I.

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<v Speaker 4>Know, it's so sweet. Do you do matter the mom?

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<v Speaker 3>Do you do you not think that Charles couldn't carry

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<v Speaker 3>this show?

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<v Speaker 4>Do you?

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, let me tell you.

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<v Speaker 2>At first I thought this is wacky, this is the

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<v Speaker 2>sweetest man.

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<v Speaker 3>And then but I was like, but he can't carry

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<v Speaker 3>the show.

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<v Speaker 4>No, he can't carry the show.

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<v Speaker 2>And then I thought, who of this group do I

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<v Speaker 2>actually want to watch more of? It? Is Charles and

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<v Speaker 2>he is the most endearing person I've really ever come across,

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<v Speaker 2>like the most so can.

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<v Speaker 4>You imagine twenty five older women? I guess when you Yeah, if.

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<v Speaker 2>You want a Golden bachelor that is just like you

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<v Speaker 2>cannot stop watching it because he's just too cute and

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<v Speaker 2>that's the guy, you know, Like, I don't know what

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<v Speaker 2>kind of grand romance might come out of this.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't even know if he talks about how he

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<v Speaker 3>wants he's ready to move on. Is this evil of

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<v Speaker 3>me to say?

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<v Speaker 4>No, it's idealist?

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, that's what it is. It's me just being like.

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<v Speaker 4>You romantic, right, buddy, your soulmate.

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<v Speaker 3>Not evil, too romantic exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, Well, it's just because he's just the way

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<v Speaker 2>that he talks about his wife, you know, I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>say with Mark and Mark. Actually, there was nothing. There

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<v Speaker 2>was no huge Mark moments to me in this episode.

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<v Speaker 3>Except for precisely the post it note.

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<v Speaker 2>That he said that he gave to Jonathan saying that, like,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, if I'm not around tomorrow, which he meant

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<v Speaker 2>like if I don't get a rose.

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<v Speaker 4>Not obviously dying, Yes, just know that.

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<v Speaker 2>You're like a great man, and he like had listed

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<v Speaker 2>like all these attributes that he admired from him.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it's really sweet.

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<v Speaker 3>Can you would you do that if you were in

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<v Speaker 3>the house with these men.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm trying to think of who I would do it.

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<v Speaker 3>I feel like Ben would do it to you.

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<v Speaker 4>He will do it for me. Ben, Relax, I'm not

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<v Speaker 4>that great, very sweet, but I'm not deserving of this.

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<v Speaker 4>You can write like you're okay, You're doing a good job,

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<v Speaker 4>and then I'd be like, all right, thanks, I appreciate that. Yeah, Like,

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<v Speaker 4>do you.

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<v Speaker 3>See yourself in thirty years softer in that way?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah? It's interesting because I think there's areas in my

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<v Speaker 4>life where I've become hardened, and then there are areas

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<v Speaker 4>in my life where I've become softer. You know, I

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<v Speaker 4>was actually thinking yesterday when I was feeding Hayden introspectively

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<v Speaker 4>about you know, like, what how Hayden's going to view

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<v Speaker 4>me as a as a dad? And you know, it's

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<v Speaker 4>a weird thought. What type of man are you going

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<v Speaker 4>to think I am? You know, I hope you think

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<v Speaker 4>I'm a good man.

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<v Speaker 2>But you're wonderful, I was there. That's not wonderful. Lots

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<v Speaker 2>of things, definitely, like the work. Well, you know, I

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<v Speaker 2>can't say that working too much is a negative thing.

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<v Speaker 4>No, actually as well, but anyway, but that's an area

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<v Speaker 4>where I think I've become softer in terms of thinking.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, grandioso. It's with kids because it just puts

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<v Speaker 4>you know, you start thinking about your place in life,

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<v Speaker 4>not so much about your own being, but in terms

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<v Speaker 4>of okay, well, I'm here in this world, and my

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<v Speaker 4>most important thing is not just like living, but just

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<v Speaker 4>being there for Dawson and Hayden, Like I want to

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<v Speaker 4>live as long as possible, right, because I want to

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<v Speaker 4>be there as long as possible for them. Yeah, and

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<v Speaker 4>that has obviously that mindset has been different the past

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<v Speaker 4>three years since having kids than it was prior.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>Right, It's like, well, I want to live as long

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<v Speaker 4>as possible because I want to do things and breathe

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<v Speaker 4>and I appreciate life and I'm grateful for life, which

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<v Speaker 4>all those things are true still, but now it's also

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<v Speaker 4>shifted to be like, well, now I want to be

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<v Speaker 4>here as long as possible because you know, I don't want,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, Dawson to be fifteen and something happened and

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<v Speaker 4>then he you know, kind of grows out without a dad,

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<v Speaker 4>like I want to be there for him.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>Like I think we've talked about this before, but I

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<v Speaker 2>never really thought of like my own death as like

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<v Speaker 2>an emotional thing. I never thought of like me getting

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<v Speaker 2>in the car and like something bad happening.

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<v Speaker 3>Or you know, on a plan or whatnot.

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<v Speaker 4>You think about you your family.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you're always thinking about like you're worried about their flight,

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<v Speaker 2>not your own flight. And then being a parent, you

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<v Speaker 2>think about your own flight, and then you think about

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<v Speaker 2>your what you know why he's of transportation, but you

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<v Speaker 2>know we all think of it.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, but it's like, oh my god, something happened to me.

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<v Speaker 2>Then you start like I start like, well up now

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<v Speaker 2>thinking about how their life would be. Yeah, okay, well,

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<v Speaker 2>yes we're all mushier with age and children.

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<v Speaker 3>So other thing I'd like to mention is.

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<v Speaker 2>You didn't see this part, but there's this one guy

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<v Speaker 2>and he was a captain of a military ship Kim

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<v Speaker 2>So he wrote this song is called the Mansion Men,

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<v Speaker 2>and it's actually quite catchy. I'm like, this guy might

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<v Speaker 2>have some musical talent. And on the show it was

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<v Speaker 2>supposed to be kind of like an embarrassing moment for him. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>nobody wanted to sing it. They were supposed to sing

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<v Speaker 2>it like on a row ceremony night, and only guy

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<v Speaker 2>was down to sing it with him and in order

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<v Speaker 2>to bring him more pride, they had the LA's Gay

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<v Speaker 2>Man Chorus come out and sing this song in its

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<v Speaker 2>glory and it's great, great song, but you didn't see it.

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<v Speaker 2>But I just wanted to say, great song. He may

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<v Speaker 2>have fallen asleep for this part.

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<v Speaker 4>That's not true. My eye was half open.

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<v Speaker 2>And then finally we get to the end where we

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<v Speaker 2>see the scenes from the next episode, the finale, the finale.

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<v Speaker 2>Jared was away for this, and I feel like the

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<v Speaker 2>biggest takeaway is that Jonas and seem that smiley.

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<v Speaker 4>She's definitely not smiley.

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<v Speaker 2>But her reaction, her facial expression looks a lot like

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<v Speaker 2>what Gens did at her mantella whenever they would like

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<v Speaker 2>preview Gen's reaction for like the next week.

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<v Speaker 4>What is the name of the guy she picked? Devin?

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, but look at that.

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<v Speaker 2>That shows you just how fleeting the Bachelor audience memory is.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, well there's just so many names. I remember his face, well, yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>I remember that face. Joan's definitely not smiling. It's hard

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<v Speaker 4>to tell if she's.

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<v Speaker 3>Trying to hold back exact be an actress.

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<v Speaker 4>Exactly or what's real? You know, if she's trying.

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<v Speaker 3>To I don't think she's a very good actress.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, I guess we'll find out if she's super happy.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>See, this is just my my feeling the entire time

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<v Speaker 2>is that like her guy wasn't really there. I think

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<v Speaker 2>that that Chock is the closest that she's gonna get there.

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<v Speaker 4>So you think that she's gonna break up with Chalk.

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<v Speaker 3>No, no, no no.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that she's gonna be with Chock. And then

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<v Speaker 2>I think she's gonna get in real life and realize, like.

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<v Speaker 4>So they broke up after the show.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, oh, I definitely think.

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<v Speaker 2>Sorry, I definitely, I definitely think that she ends up

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<v Speaker 2>with him. I just don't know what the status of

0:20:25.280 --> 0:20:26.320
<v Speaker 2>their relationship is now.

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<v Speaker 4>If they end up together and then break up before

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<v Speaker 4>or after, that would be bad, like, oh my goodness, gracious,

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<v Speaker 4>grape balls.

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<v Speaker 2>Just but do you know it's worse just stay together

0:20:38.320 --> 0:20:40.760
<v Speaker 2>married after four months of meeting each other.

0:20:40.760 --> 0:20:43.679
<v Speaker 4>That's bad. Don't get married and then divorced. Don't get married.

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<v Speaker 4>But I don't know, I hope not. I mean, how

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<v Speaker 4>long ago did they film? Like three months ago? Four

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<v Speaker 4>months ago? I think it started in June, so like

0:20:53.600 --> 0:20:56.600
<v Speaker 4>they probably ended in August, so you're talking about September October.

0:20:56.600 --> 0:20:59.080
<v Speaker 4>It's been two months. I mean, this is all you know,

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<v Speaker 4>this is all assumptions here, we're just speaking out of

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<v Speaker 4>the out of our butts.

0:21:03.680 --> 0:21:08.760
<v Speaker 3>But look at us, where the opposite. We're the opposite.

0:21:09.240 --> 0:21:10.680
<v Speaker 3>You didn't like me on the show, and then you

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<v Speaker 3>love me in my life.

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<v Speaker 4>Look at that, and then so that.

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<v Speaker 3>Can just those flips, those flip flips can switch.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, of course can flip switches do flip It's correct.

0:21:25.520 --> 0:21:28.480
<v Speaker 4>But yeah, I mean, listen, I hope she's with Chalk.

0:21:28.920 --> 0:21:30.960
<v Speaker 4>I mean, I can't even I don't know what type

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<v Speaker 4>of drama this final episode's going to bring, because it's like,

0:21:33.800 --> 0:21:36.040
<v Speaker 4>is she even like, does anybody think she's gonna end

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<v Speaker 4>up with guy? I know they saw that show. That preview,

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<v Speaker 4>Guy was saying that I'm in love with you.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, yeah, he said, I'm ready to get engaged,

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<v Speaker 2>like I would propose to you. Yeah, And it's not

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<v Speaker 2>like the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard in my

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<v Speaker 2>entire life. I've never seen two people so neutral about

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<v Speaker 2>each other.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah. So again, I hope that what I hope is

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<v Speaker 4>that guy, with all due respect, good looking, seems very nice,

0:21:56.119 --> 0:21:59.320
<v Speaker 4>he sing He sung the song, but eliminate guy.

0:21:59.359 --> 0:22:00.960
<v Speaker 3>He did sing this song and that was one of

0:22:00.960 --> 0:22:01.840
<v Speaker 3>his glory moments.

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<v Speaker 4>I hope that the tension in the episode is not

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<v Speaker 4>between who she picks, but rather if she ends up

0:22:06.520 --> 0:22:11.639
<v Speaker 4>picking Chok because of the guilt that she feels from

0:22:11.760 --> 0:22:15.240
<v Speaker 4>you know, her obviously past relationship. Yes, yes, so that

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<v Speaker 4>would be far more interesting to me if there is

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<v Speaker 4>this sense of guilt that she feels. I mean, I

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<v Speaker 4>hope she doesn't feel this way. Obviously, I want Joan

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<v Speaker 4>to be happy. I don't. I don't. I don't think

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<v Speaker 4>that she's doing anything wrong. I don't think she's doing

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<v Speaker 4>anything wrong at all, Like she should move on. I'm

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<v Speaker 4>sure a lot of people close in her, in her

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<v Speaker 4>circle want her to move on and be able to

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<v Speaker 4>you know, be happy again. But I'm sure just from

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<v Speaker 4>a human being standpoint, she feels lottle guilty, and plus

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<v Speaker 4>from a TV as aspect, like that is compelling stuff.

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<v Speaker 4>If the reason that she feels like she might not

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<v Speaker 4>pick Chok is just because she has this overwhelming sense

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<v Speaker 4>of guilt, which they showed in the episode, a little

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<v Speaker 4>bit of you know, you know, and is this the

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<v Speaker 4>right thing to do? Which I get? I mean, how

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<v Speaker 4>can you not think that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, not that it would be very It would be

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of sense for this part of the franchise.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, if I was in that predicament, I would think

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<v Speaker 4>the exact same thing. And I'm sure my friends would

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<v Speaker 4>tell me exactly what I would tell Joan, which is,

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<v Speaker 4>you're not doing anything wrong. But it's hard to think.

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<v Speaker 3>That my ghost would say you're doing something wrong. I'm kidding.

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<v Speaker 4>I would not actually haunted the after life only for.

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<v Speaker 3>A few years. I'd haunt you like that, only.

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<v Speaker 4>For a few years. Okay, hopefully I don't. I mean,

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<v Speaker 4>I hope I die before you. Well, statistically speaking, i'll die, yes,

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<v Speaker 4>I guess. So is that so weird to think I'll

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<v Speaker 4>die before you?

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<v Speaker 2>You'll see me die, Jared, that's the worst thing I've

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<v Speaker 2>ever heard, could you know?

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<v Speaker 4>That's so sad.

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<v Speaker 3>That's so sad.

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<v Speaker 4>Hopefully many many, many many years from now.

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<v Speaker 3>And on that note, I'm gonna go cry.

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<v Speaker 4>No, don't cry.

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<v Speaker 3>I will see you guys next time, and Jared probably won't.

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<v Speaker 4>But until then, but you'll see Ben and Ben's better.

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<v Speaker 4>So let's just all be honest, which I'm totally fine with.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm fine being if Ben's an A minus. I'm fine

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<v Speaker 4>being a B minus C plus.

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<v Speaker 3>Why where'd just get B plus? And I'm not gonna

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<v Speaker 3>give my nicoles?

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<v Speaker 4>No? Ben six four, he's got four inches on me.

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<v Speaker 4>I always have to say that, why are you comparing

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<v Speaker 4>your looks right now?

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<v Speaker 3>I didn't think we were talking about that. I was

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<v Speaker 3>talking about quality men.

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<v Speaker 2>You're both such high quality, well say, factable, lovable, kind

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<v Speaker 2>hearted men.

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<v Speaker 4>Ben's a very respectable man. But I would always say like,

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<v Speaker 4>because you know, I feel like Ben and I are

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<v Speaker 4>certain similar, so similar in certain ways. And when we

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<v Speaker 4>were on the show together, I remember just thinking like

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<v Speaker 4>I got no shop being this guy, Like I'm trying

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<v Speaker 4>to be as good as him and so, but he's

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<v Speaker 4>got four inches on me. It's like over why would

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<v Speaker 4>why would she ever pick me over him? It's just

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<v Speaker 4>not happening.

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<v Speaker 2>The thing is with Ben on that season, people are

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<v Speaker 2>so tired of her hearing this say this. But like

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<v Speaker 2>when he did that sex talk with the kids, I

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<v Speaker 2>was like, no one can beat this man.

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<v Speaker 4>Trust me. I was like, this, fing guy, you didn't

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<v Speaker 4>see it.

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<v Speaker 3>You already been there, you saw it back on TV.

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<v Speaker 3>You weren't on that date.

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<v Speaker 4>I was on that date.

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<v Speaker 3>You were on that date.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, I was on that date. The sex talk with

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<v Speaker 4>the kids.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't remember them showing you talk to the kids

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<v Speaker 3>at all.

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<v Speaker 4>My big date was the week before the boxing.

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<v Speaker 3>Day you got you barely got any air.

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<v Speaker 4>No, they showed me and I had my black eye

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<v Speaker 4>and was a fun date.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sure you probably totally excelled in that too. Well

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<v Speaker 2>already imagine like you would be so good at that.

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<v Speaker 2>But the fact that like they showed Ben like he's

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<v Speaker 2>like walking down.

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<v Speaker 4>Started walking down the aisle, I'm like, why did I

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<v Speaker 4>not do this? And they had me go before Ben,

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<v Speaker 4>So I'm like, damn it, can I do mine again? Please?

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<v Speaker 2>Do you think that they saved Ben for last knowing

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<v Speaker 2>that he was just gonna kill it.

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<v Speaker 3>He's like a youth minister.

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<v Speaker 4>And they probably were like, Ben, you know, if you

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<v Speaker 4>feel like you want to like walk up to you, yest,

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<v Speaker 4>feel free to buddy, And they're like, Jared, stay up front,

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<v Speaker 4>don't bot.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh good times. Now we're actually signing off, bye, guys.

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