1 00:00:00,800 --> 00:00:03,800 Speaker 1: This is the Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous podcast 2 00:00:03,880 --> 00:00:05,240 Speaker 1: with iHeartRadio. 3 00:00:05,880 --> 00:00:09,040 Speaker 2: Hey guys, welcome to the Almost Famous podcast. 4 00:00:09,560 --> 00:00:12,280 Speaker 3: Guess What. I'm joined by Jared again this sweek. 5 00:00:14,000 --> 00:00:14,320 Speaker 4: It's Me? 6 00:00:14,960 --> 00:00:18,200 Speaker 3: Are you so to me? Chackica, Jared and I will 7 00:00:18,200 --> 00:00:21,200 Speaker 3: never be able to say the words it's me without 8 00:00:21,239 --> 00:00:24,759 Speaker 3: thinking of Rob Schneider in The Hot Check. 9 00:00:24,640 --> 00:00:25,120 Speaker 4: The Hot Check? 10 00:00:25,200 --> 00:00:27,960 Speaker 3: Yeah. I love that movie so much. 11 00:00:28,080 --> 00:00:30,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's a great one. Rachel mcaddams before she was 12 00:00:30,280 --> 00:00:33,239 Speaker 4: Rachel mcaddams. Yeah, I know, was that before Me and Girls? 13 00:00:33,640 --> 00:00:36,320 Speaker 3: I think it may have been like six months before, yeah, 14 00:00:36,360 --> 00:00:37,279 Speaker 3: six months before. 15 00:00:38,640 --> 00:00:39,240 Speaker 4: So crazy. 16 00:00:39,440 --> 00:00:39,720 Speaker 3: Yeah. 17 00:00:39,840 --> 00:00:41,600 Speaker 4: I remember thinking she was so hot in that movie, 18 00:00:41,640 --> 00:00:43,960 Speaker 4: and then who would have thought, like, oh, that is 19 00:00:44,080 --> 00:00:48,839 Speaker 4: Rachel McAdams. That's similar to the movie Almost Time with 20 00:00:49,560 --> 00:00:52,199 Speaker 4: I forget the actor's name, but Bill Nye plays the 21 00:00:52,280 --> 00:00:54,560 Speaker 4: father where the guy can go and go back in 22 00:00:54,600 --> 00:00:56,880 Speaker 4: time and it's right around the time his dad dies. 23 00:00:57,000 --> 00:01:00,320 Speaker 4: I don't but Margot Robbie's in it before she was 24 00:01:00,320 --> 00:01:01,040 Speaker 4: Marco Robbins. 25 00:01:01,360 --> 00:01:05,000 Speaker 2: About Time, I was like, I don't know a movie 26 00:01:05,040 --> 00:01:08,280 Speaker 2: called that, Okay, yeah, about Time? And I remember watching 27 00:01:08,319 --> 00:01:10,399 Speaker 2: About Time and being like that might be the prettiest, 28 00:01:10,480 --> 00:01:11,880 Speaker 2: but have everything in my entire life. 29 00:01:11,880 --> 00:01:13,839 Speaker 4: Oh my god, my god, it's so funny because Rachel 30 00:01:13,880 --> 00:01:16,120 Speaker 4: McAdams is also in that movie and she plays his 31 00:01:16,200 --> 00:01:21,720 Speaker 4: love injury. Yeah, but but she it's hotter well in 32 00:01:21,800 --> 00:01:24,039 Speaker 4: that movie, in that movie specifically, But then you have 33 00:01:24,080 --> 00:01:27,080 Speaker 4: an argument like who is prettier like Margot, Robbie or 34 00:01:27,160 --> 00:01:27,840 Speaker 4: Ray McAdams. 35 00:01:27,959 --> 00:01:31,119 Speaker 2: If I understand, there's really there, they're all in there 36 00:01:31,400 --> 00:01:32,840 Speaker 2: in that movie. 37 00:01:32,760 --> 00:01:35,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, well, of course pretty. But in that movie, hold on, 38 00:01:35,000 --> 00:01:38,280 Speaker 4: I gotta finish my Rachel McAdams intentionally doesn't look as 39 00:01:38,319 --> 00:01:40,400 Speaker 4: good because I think so, Yeah, they spress. 40 00:01:40,120 --> 00:01:45,279 Speaker 3: Her down to look like more like momish exactly. 41 00:01:45,400 --> 00:01:48,440 Speaker 4: And and also I forget, god, I forget the guy's name. 42 00:01:48,480 --> 00:01:51,920 Speaker 4: But you know, let's be honest, it's not like he's ugly, 43 00:01:52,080 --> 00:01:54,200 Speaker 4: but like she's way out of his leag So if 44 00:01:54,200 --> 00:01:57,880 Speaker 4: it was Rachel McAdams and him movie, no, it's no. 45 00:01:58,040 --> 00:02:03,120 Speaker 4: Jim Sturge is beautiful. I forget he's still. 46 00:02:04,680 --> 00:02:07,920 Speaker 2: We have nothing to say about this episode. We'll get well, 47 00:02:08,040 --> 00:02:09,760 Speaker 2: we'll get to in a second, but now I just 48 00:02:09,760 --> 00:02:12,640 Speaker 2: want to say I thought that should I look it up? 49 00:02:12,840 --> 00:02:15,239 Speaker 4: Yeah, he's redhead. He's a really good actor. He was 50 00:02:15,280 --> 00:02:21,240 Speaker 4: in Star Wars Glacier. I mean, yep, there he is, 51 00:02:21,680 --> 00:02:26,800 Speaker 4: or dom Donald. No, it's Domin Domino. Yeah, it's spelled. 52 00:02:27,080 --> 00:02:32,400 Speaker 4: They just had it there. It is doumb Hall. He's 53 00:02:32,440 --> 00:02:36,120 Speaker 4: not a bad looking guy by any French, but you know, 54 00:02:36,400 --> 00:02:38,280 Speaker 4: I mean Rachel, you know. 55 00:02:38,520 --> 00:02:41,560 Speaker 3: Ch Rich McAdams is Jared's like great movie. 56 00:02:41,560 --> 00:02:43,000 Speaker 4: By the way, holy Ship, you haven't seen them. I 57 00:02:43,000 --> 00:02:45,639 Speaker 4: remember watching that and I was like, who is this blonde? 58 00:02:45,840 --> 00:02:48,600 Speaker 4: I know, I thought the same thing. 59 00:02:48,680 --> 00:02:50,560 Speaker 3: I was like, am I a lesbian right now? 60 00:02:50,639 --> 00:02:52,760 Speaker 4: I was like, listen, I love to because I'm so much, 61 00:02:52,800 --> 00:02:56,799 Speaker 4: but bro go with her read of your mind anyway? 62 00:02:57,040 --> 00:02:59,040 Speaker 2: Also, could I say that in the Hot Chick where 63 00:02:59,120 --> 00:03:02,760 Speaker 2: is where this conversation started, I thought that Anna Faris 64 00:03:02,880 --> 00:03:03,720 Speaker 2: was so pretty. 65 00:03:03,760 --> 00:03:04,480 Speaker 3: I just want to look like. 66 00:03:05,160 --> 00:03:07,639 Speaker 4: I think Anna Faris is pretty underrated. 67 00:03:07,800 --> 00:03:08,040 Speaker 3: Yeah. 68 00:03:08,120 --> 00:03:10,680 Speaker 4: Have you ever seen the movie Waiting where it's with 69 00:03:10,720 --> 00:03:13,240 Speaker 4: her and Ryan Reynolds. They play they work in a restaurant, 70 00:03:13,680 --> 00:03:15,520 Speaker 4: justin Long's in. It came out in two thousand and five. 71 00:03:15,520 --> 00:03:16,959 Speaker 4: It's an old one never really took off. 72 00:03:17,040 --> 00:03:18,079 Speaker 3: The movies are the two of them? 73 00:03:18,200 --> 00:03:21,480 Speaker 4: Uh that and Just Friends? But I think she well, 74 00:03:21,480 --> 00:03:24,400 Speaker 4: she also wears Eyeliner, which actually knows is my I 75 00:03:24,440 --> 00:03:25,480 Speaker 4: love dude. 76 00:03:25,480 --> 00:03:28,280 Speaker 3: Jared loves Island, black Eyelander all the way around. 77 00:03:28,360 --> 00:03:32,440 Speaker 4: And I think Ana fars is very pretty. 78 00:03:31,040 --> 00:03:35,200 Speaker 2: Anyway anyway, okay, well you know who else is very pretty? 79 00:03:34,800 --> 00:03:38,839 Speaker 3: All Joan and all her men very pretty, very nice man. 80 00:03:39,120 --> 00:03:43,520 Speaker 4: This mentell all was a celebration of the season, which 81 00:03:43,680 --> 00:03:46,800 Speaker 4: I am glad they did it this way if they 82 00:03:46,800 --> 00:03:50,080 Speaker 4: were going to do a men tell all, I'm glad 83 00:03:50,600 --> 00:03:52,680 Speaker 4: that the structure of the show was this and they 84 00:03:52,680 --> 00:03:55,400 Speaker 4: didn't try to insert some sort of drama between the 85 00:03:55,440 --> 00:03:59,320 Speaker 4: guys and instead just celebrating the friendships that were gathered 86 00:03:59,840 --> 00:04:02,240 Speaker 4: like that. Having said that they should just never have 87 00:04:02,240 --> 00:04:03,040 Speaker 4: had a mental. 88 00:04:02,760 --> 00:04:04,080 Speaker 3: Well okay, but do you know why they had a 89 00:04:04,120 --> 00:04:04,640 Speaker 3: mentell all? 90 00:04:04,680 --> 00:04:06,920 Speaker 2: In my theory, even though it probably costs them a bit, 91 00:04:07,400 --> 00:04:09,800 Speaker 2: I don't know what the ratio is for, like what's 92 00:04:09,880 --> 00:04:10,640 Speaker 2: worth it for them. 93 00:04:10,840 --> 00:04:13,520 Speaker 4: I'm sure ABC needed a certain set amount of episodes 94 00:04:13,640 --> 00:04:15,920 Speaker 4: and what the structure of the show is set in 95 00:04:15,960 --> 00:04:19,680 Speaker 4: a way that you know it's it's it's kind of like, well, 96 00:04:19,720 --> 00:04:20,960 Speaker 4: of course we'll do a mental all. 97 00:04:21,240 --> 00:04:24,440 Speaker 2: No, Okay, my theory is this they did it? Okay, Well, yeah, 98 00:04:24,480 --> 00:04:27,880 Speaker 2: you're right, they're always gonna do it. I don't think 99 00:04:27,880 --> 00:04:30,760 Speaker 2: there's been a season with that one besides Paradise seasons, 100 00:04:30,800 --> 00:04:35,000 Speaker 2: which sometimes people are requesting Paradise seasons over something like that. 101 00:04:35,000 --> 00:04:37,200 Speaker 4: It's done some reunions, some. 102 00:04:36,960 --> 00:04:37,839 Speaker 3: Sort of catchups. 103 00:04:38,440 --> 00:04:42,680 Speaker 2: Now, an episode like this you would think would be 104 00:04:42,720 --> 00:04:46,359 Speaker 2: paired with a regular episode just because like we needed more, 105 00:04:46,920 --> 00:04:48,960 Speaker 2: especially since it was an hour and a half episode. 106 00:04:49,720 --> 00:04:51,800 Speaker 4: This was an hour and a half. It wasn't too yeah, 107 00:04:52,080 --> 00:04:53,080 Speaker 4: it felt like to them, No. 108 00:04:53,160 --> 00:04:55,720 Speaker 3: Actually it felt short to me. It's so weird. 109 00:04:56,000 --> 00:04:58,200 Speaker 2: So normally I would think that they would tack on 110 00:04:58,320 --> 00:05:02,599 Speaker 2: like thirty minutes of real drama from like Fantasy Suites 111 00:05:02,839 --> 00:05:05,680 Speaker 2: or The Final Two or something, and then they would 112 00:05:05,720 --> 00:05:09,240 Speaker 2: put mentel all at the end of that. This week, 113 00:05:09,320 --> 00:05:11,599 Speaker 2: I think they're like, okay, well, the plan is to 114 00:05:11,720 --> 00:05:16,560 Speaker 2: air it Wednesday after the election. Nobody knows whether or 115 00:05:16,560 --> 00:05:19,680 Speaker 2: not the results will be here by then. People are 116 00:05:19,760 --> 00:05:23,680 Speaker 2: not thinking about the Golden Bachelorette this week, so it's 117 00:05:23,720 --> 00:05:26,080 Speaker 2: perfect timing to throw a mentell. 118 00:05:25,760 --> 00:05:27,760 Speaker 3: All on a Wednesday night. 119 00:05:28,160 --> 00:05:31,120 Speaker 2: Nobody needs to see it, but it's there as light, 120 00:05:31,160 --> 00:05:35,000 Speaker 2: fluffy content if they want it, and if if it 121 00:05:35,080 --> 00:05:35,920 Speaker 2: even gets to air. 122 00:05:36,600 --> 00:05:39,640 Speaker 4: I agree, Yeah, they probably should have just took a week 123 00:05:39,680 --> 00:05:43,240 Speaker 4: off Election week. A lot's going on high. 124 00:05:43,400 --> 00:05:49,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, just you know, George, Sorry, she's just talking to me. 125 00:05:52,760 --> 00:05:54,039 Speaker 2: Do you think they will I think that in a 126 00:05:54,120 --> 00:05:57,240 Speaker 2: regular week, at a regular time, they would have just 127 00:05:57,240 --> 00:05:59,760 Speaker 2: like done a back to back episode. They're just like, no, no, 128 00:06:00,200 --> 00:06:01,960 Speaker 2: it's okay, Well the store. 129 00:06:02,080 --> 00:06:03,520 Speaker 4: I agree, you know what I'm talking about. Yes, of 130 00:06:03,560 --> 00:06:05,599 Speaker 4: course they didn't want to put anything consequential into this 131 00:06:05,640 --> 00:06:07,880 Speaker 4: episode because they knew exactly not a lot of people 132 00:06:07,880 --> 00:06:09,360 Speaker 4: are probably gonna watch it. Yeh, Because it's the day 133 00:06:09,360 --> 00:06:12,200 Speaker 4: after election. No one's thinking about the Golden Bachelorette, even 134 00:06:12,240 --> 00:06:14,920 Speaker 4: though you know, it was funny. I went on Yahoo 135 00:06:14,960 --> 00:06:17,240 Speaker 4: this morning just to check the news, and the top 136 00:06:17,680 --> 00:06:24,240 Speaker 4: like scroll side by side was you know, Trump about 137 00:06:24,279 --> 00:06:26,960 Speaker 4: Trump winning the election, and then right next door was 138 00:06:27,080 --> 00:06:29,440 Speaker 4: Golden Bachelorette recap, and I'm like, god, I can't believe 139 00:06:29,440 --> 00:06:30,680 Speaker 4: those two things are side by side. 140 00:06:31,560 --> 00:06:32,279 Speaker 3: That's funny. 141 00:06:32,680 --> 00:06:37,520 Speaker 2: All right, So the episode itself has absolutely zero drama, 142 00:06:38,000 --> 00:06:42,520 Speaker 2: which is as wonderful the least dramatic read and. 143 00:06:42,720 --> 00:06:43,480 Speaker 4: Is it wonderful? 144 00:06:43,720 --> 00:06:44,680 Speaker 3: No, this is wonderful. 145 00:06:44,720 --> 00:06:47,160 Speaker 2: I think it's wonderful because they didn't even try because 146 00:06:47,160 --> 00:06:48,760 Speaker 2: they were like, oh, we don't have any so let's 147 00:06:48,800 --> 00:06:52,120 Speaker 2: not try. So it's really could have just been called 148 00:06:52,160 --> 00:06:53,520 Speaker 2: like the celebration of the men. 149 00:06:54,160 --> 00:06:56,400 Speaker 3: You were bored, and I actually thought it was sweet. 150 00:06:56,480 --> 00:06:58,880 Speaker 3: I wasn't particularly bored, but I will tell you this, 151 00:06:59,040 --> 00:06:59,839 Speaker 3: it's very sweet. 152 00:07:00,120 --> 00:07:03,720 Speaker 2: Qualify episodes based on like, is this a scroll episode? 153 00:07:03,800 --> 00:07:05,719 Speaker 2: Like where I'm on my phone scrolling or trying to 154 00:07:05,760 --> 00:07:08,240 Speaker 2: do something else while watching, which, of course, you guys, 155 00:07:08,240 --> 00:07:09,240 Speaker 2: this is my job to recap. 156 00:07:09,279 --> 00:07:12,320 Speaker 3: I don't do that, but like it's my compulsion. Do 157 00:07:12,400 --> 00:07:13,880 Speaker 3: I wish I would be doing that? You know what 158 00:07:13,920 --> 00:07:16,320 Speaker 3: I mean? Now this case, because it was a. 159 00:07:16,280 --> 00:07:19,800 Speaker 2: Tell all, I was like, and Jared was already previewing 160 00:07:19,960 --> 00:07:24,640 Speaker 2: to me that it was slow or inconsequential. I was like, okay, 161 00:07:24,680 --> 00:07:27,560 Speaker 2: well then I'm going to Christmas decorate during this, so 162 00:07:27,640 --> 00:07:30,880 Speaker 2: I did okay. And I do have to say that, like, 163 00:07:30,920 --> 00:07:32,920 Speaker 2: if I were to sit down and just dedicate my 164 00:07:33,040 --> 00:07:36,360 Speaker 2: time fully to this episode would have been like, oh no, 165 00:07:36,600 --> 00:07:38,840 Speaker 2: but I was nice to have in the background as 166 00:07:38,880 --> 00:07:48,760 Speaker 2: like a podcast. That's what it was to me, a podcast. 167 00:07:52,400 --> 00:07:56,320 Speaker 4: This is a great example as to why I'm not 168 00:07:56,520 --> 00:08:01,560 Speaker 4: a TV guy because The Bachelor, Right, obviously, it's given 169 00:08:01,640 --> 00:08:03,400 Speaker 4: us more in our lives than we could possibly have 170 00:08:03,440 --> 00:08:06,160 Speaker 4: ever asked for. It's one of the most successful shows 171 00:08:06,160 --> 00:08:11,360 Speaker 4: of all time, longest running shows. I mean, it's it's, 172 00:08:12,400 --> 00:08:15,800 Speaker 4: you know, a place in TV history cannot be understated, 173 00:08:15,840 --> 00:08:20,480 Speaker 4: the Bachelor franchise. But like every show goes through this 174 00:08:20,520 --> 00:08:25,600 Speaker 4: where there's just episodes where it's like, why am I 175 00:08:25,600 --> 00:08:27,720 Speaker 4: watching this for an hour and a half? Why am 176 00:08:27,760 --> 00:08:30,760 Speaker 4: I watching this? And it's but this is exactly why, 177 00:08:30,800 --> 00:08:33,160 Speaker 4: well hold on. But this is exactly why I'm not 178 00:08:33,240 --> 00:08:36,920 Speaker 4: a TV guy because there's so many times with multitude 179 00:08:36,920 --> 00:08:40,280 Speaker 4: of television shows, whether it be I don't know, breaking 180 00:08:40,320 --> 00:08:43,240 Speaker 4: bad or whatever you're you're biting not breaking bad. 181 00:08:43,440 --> 00:08:48,199 Speaker 2: Every episode is consequent Ozarks. I thought that was too 182 00:08:48,200 --> 00:08:48,920 Speaker 2: slow to continue? 183 00:08:49,080 --> 00:08:52,000 Speaker 4: Is it Ozark or Ozark Ozark? 184 00:08:52,760 --> 00:08:53,160 Speaker 3: Anyway? 185 00:08:53,280 --> 00:08:56,199 Speaker 4: Ozark one of the widely considered one of the greatest shows. 186 00:08:56,200 --> 00:08:58,800 Speaker 4: But like so many times, there's episodes I hear from 187 00:08:58,800 --> 00:09:01,320 Speaker 4: people like, oh, you got to get through four episodes 188 00:09:01,360 --> 00:09:03,040 Speaker 4: and then it gets really going. It's like, so you're 189 00:09:03,080 --> 00:09:05,720 Speaker 4: telling me I got to dedicate almost five hours of 190 00:09:05,760 --> 00:09:06,200 Speaker 4: my life. 191 00:09:06,280 --> 00:09:09,240 Speaker 3: Will tell me that what's the show that with Catherine O'Hara. 192 00:09:10,360 --> 00:09:15,600 Speaker 4: Oh, I get the uh sure, like, oh no, I'm 193 00:09:15,600 --> 00:09:16,560 Speaker 4: oh it, Shit's creak. 194 00:09:16,600 --> 00:09:17,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, shit's creak. 195 00:09:17,640 --> 00:09:19,679 Speaker 2: People tell me that I have to watch the whole 196 00:09:19,720 --> 00:09:22,280 Speaker 2: first season it shit's creaked to start to like it. 197 00:09:22,320 --> 00:09:23,520 Speaker 3: At the beginning of season two? 198 00:09:23,640 --> 00:09:24,880 Speaker 4: What are we doing with our lives? 199 00:09:24,960 --> 00:09:25,160 Speaker 3: You know? 200 00:09:25,240 --> 00:09:27,080 Speaker 4: And I get that people do that, and it's a thing, 201 00:09:27,120 --> 00:09:29,400 Speaker 4: and I respect it because I wish I could do. 202 00:09:29,360 --> 00:09:31,480 Speaker 3: It with some shows and some shows you don't. 203 00:09:31,559 --> 00:09:36,080 Speaker 2: And my retaliation point is that we love TV because 204 00:09:36,080 --> 00:09:37,880 Speaker 2: we get so close to the characters. 205 00:09:37,920 --> 00:09:40,280 Speaker 3: We feel like we really know them so much more 206 00:09:40,280 --> 00:09:40,880 Speaker 3: than a movie. 207 00:09:41,120 --> 00:09:44,079 Speaker 2: In an episode like this where mental all super sweet, 208 00:09:44,120 --> 00:09:48,280 Speaker 2: no drama filler episode, we just want to see them. 209 00:09:48,559 --> 00:09:50,640 Speaker 2: We just want to see more of their personality. And 210 00:09:50,679 --> 00:09:51,400 Speaker 2: that's all we just. 211 00:09:51,559 --> 00:09:52,440 Speaker 4: That's fair, that's fair. 212 00:09:52,520 --> 00:09:56,200 Speaker 2: You don't like, you don't like, you don't need the Yeah, 213 00:09:56,200 --> 00:09:59,320 Speaker 2: there's something you don't need, access personality. 214 00:09:59,360 --> 00:10:01,679 Speaker 3: I love character development, give me all of it. 215 00:10:01,800 --> 00:10:06,079 Speaker 4: I love character precise, but no, there's also a subtlety 216 00:10:06,400 --> 00:10:09,640 Speaker 4: to character development that I really appreciate. Like in movies, 217 00:10:10,080 --> 00:10:12,400 Speaker 4: you know, there's so much to be said in silent 218 00:10:12,480 --> 00:10:15,760 Speaker 4: moments like one of the this I always uses an example. 219 00:10:15,800 --> 00:10:17,360 Speaker 4: I'm sorry and going off track right now, but I 220 00:10:17,559 --> 00:10:20,040 Speaker 4: not really if you get me on this podcast, I'm sorry, 221 00:10:20,080 --> 00:10:21,880 Speaker 4: this is what we're going to talk about. But there's 222 00:10:21,880 --> 00:10:24,760 Speaker 4: a scene in the party where I could talk about this. 223 00:10:24,960 --> 00:10:27,320 Speaker 4: So there's a scene between Leonardo DiCaprio and Matt Damon 224 00:10:27,640 --> 00:10:32,040 Speaker 4: and uh, forget Martin Sheen's character dies, he's like the 225 00:10:32,080 --> 00:10:34,319 Speaker 4: Captain DiCaprio has his phone or like he's got the 226 00:10:34,400 --> 00:10:37,160 Speaker 4: rats phone or something like that, and Matt Damon calls 227 00:10:37,200 --> 00:10:40,600 Speaker 4: the phone and Leo knows it's the Rat but doesn't 228 00:10:40,600 --> 00:10:42,839 Speaker 4: know who it is, and he picks up the phone. No, no, 229 00:10:43,120 --> 00:10:45,760 Speaker 4: it's just dead silence. Yeah, yeah, And it just puts 230 00:10:45,800 --> 00:10:48,480 Speaker 4: back and forth between both guys just hearing each other 231 00:10:48,520 --> 00:10:50,960 Speaker 4: breathe on the phone. And in that moment, there is 232 00:10:50,960 --> 00:10:54,800 Speaker 4: more character development in that twenty seconds of silence than 233 00:10:54,840 --> 00:10:57,240 Speaker 4: in most movies, you know what I mean. It's just 234 00:10:57,280 --> 00:10:59,280 Speaker 4: like it's it's a chef's kiss. 235 00:10:59,400 --> 00:11:01,880 Speaker 3: It is great. I see it play in my head 236 00:11:01,920 --> 00:11:02,400 Speaker 3: right now. 237 00:11:03,200 --> 00:11:07,760 Speaker 4: That like just everything in that moment, the tension just 238 00:11:07,760 --> 00:11:08,800 Speaker 4: just oh god, it's so good. 239 00:11:08,800 --> 00:11:13,040 Speaker 2: Anyway, Okay, during the strip day, Jonathan says that he's 240 00:11:13,080 --> 00:11:17,320 Speaker 2: never stripped before. It didn't we didn't believe him, and 241 00:11:17,360 --> 00:11:19,320 Speaker 2: then they reasked the question here. 242 00:11:20,960 --> 00:11:23,320 Speaker 4: He has never done it, professor. Very funny, That was 243 00:11:23,480 --> 00:11:24,080 Speaker 4: very funny. 244 00:11:24,800 --> 00:11:29,400 Speaker 2: We also find out that Jonathan has a girlfriend, which 245 00:11:29,440 --> 00:11:33,040 Speaker 2: means that Jonathan is off of the Golden Bachelor list, 246 00:11:33,080 --> 00:11:36,200 Speaker 2: which is disappointing to me as it seems as if 247 00:11:37,360 --> 00:11:40,720 Speaker 2: Mark might also have a girlfriend. So to my two 248 00:11:40,840 --> 00:11:44,480 Speaker 2: lead picks both have girlfriends. 249 00:11:45,760 --> 00:11:47,400 Speaker 4: Is there going to be a Golden Bachelor. 250 00:11:47,679 --> 00:11:49,520 Speaker 3: And they were casting for it in the commercials? 251 00:11:49,559 --> 00:11:53,160 Speaker 4: Oh? Then yes? Oh okay. Do you think that they 252 00:11:53,200 --> 00:11:55,600 Speaker 4: should pick someone from Jones season or do they Do 253 00:11:55,640 --> 00:11:57,000 Speaker 4: you think that they should pick. 254 00:11:57,679 --> 00:11:59,559 Speaker 3: Uh celebrity studcaster? 255 00:11:59,760 --> 00:12:04,320 Speaker 4: Yeah, like an old celebrity. I mean because listen, obviously 256 00:12:04,679 --> 00:12:05,760 Speaker 4: I love the format of the show. 257 00:12:05,800 --> 00:12:07,040 Speaker 3: I think it needs a little pick me up. 258 00:12:07,080 --> 00:12:08,240 Speaker 4: I think it needs a little pick me up. 259 00:12:08,280 --> 00:12:09,840 Speaker 3: I think this might be a little pick when we 260 00:12:09,880 --> 00:12:10,400 Speaker 3: might need it. 261 00:12:10,679 --> 00:12:11,800 Speaker 4: So, who do you haven't. 262 00:12:11,559 --> 00:12:15,320 Speaker 2: Done a celebrity stunt casting? In Forever? Jesse was the 263 00:12:15,400 --> 00:12:16,600 Speaker 2: celebrity stunt casting. 264 00:12:16,679 --> 00:12:20,720 Speaker 3: So was Baldwin? Wasn't Baldwin one of the Baldwin brothers, right. 265 00:12:21,080 --> 00:12:21,520 Speaker 4: I have. 266 00:12:22,520 --> 00:12:24,840 Speaker 3: I thought he was. I was very young when his 267 00:12:24,840 --> 00:12:25,560 Speaker 3: season came out. 268 00:12:25,840 --> 00:12:27,880 Speaker 2: And then there was the Prince that was kind of stunty, 269 00:12:28,000 --> 00:12:30,400 Speaker 2: but Jesse was the celebrity stunt cast. 270 00:12:30,480 --> 00:12:35,840 Speaker 4: Yeah, I bet that there's an older celebrity who would 271 00:12:35,840 --> 00:12:38,120 Speaker 4: be willing to do You definitely be down to do it. 272 00:12:38,200 --> 00:12:38,800 Speaker 3: Yeah. 273 00:12:38,960 --> 00:12:43,200 Speaker 2: They plugged Charles as possibly the next Bachelor, a Golden Bachelor. 274 00:12:43,280 --> 00:12:45,599 Speaker 2: As they they call him out in the middle of 275 00:12:45,600 --> 00:12:48,280 Speaker 2: the crowd. They have some you know stage moment where 276 00:12:48,320 --> 00:12:51,599 Speaker 2: a fan says, Charles for Golden Bachelor. 277 00:12:52,000 --> 00:12:54,840 Speaker 3: If not, then my mom, I. 278 00:12:54,760 --> 00:12:57,560 Speaker 4: Know, it's so sweet. Do you do matter the mom? 279 00:12:57,800 --> 00:12:59,800 Speaker 3: Do you do you not think that Charles couldn't carry 280 00:12:59,840 --> 00:13:00,360 Speaker 3: this show? 281 00:13:00,800 --> 00:13:01,280 Speaker 4: Do you? 282 00:13:01,720 --> 00:13:03,040 Speaker 3: Okay, let me tell you. 283 00:13:03,559 --> 00:13:07,400 Speaker 2: At first I thought this is wacky, this is the 284 00:13:07,520 --> 00:13:08,480 Speaker 2: sweetest man. 285 00:13:09,760 --> 00:13:12,199 Speaker 3: And then but I was like, but he can't carry 286 00:13:12,240 --> 00:13:12,560 Speaker 3: the show. 287 00:13:12,720 --> 00:13:13,880 Speaker 4: No, he can't carry the show. 288 00:13:13,920 --> 00:13:16,840 Speaker 2: And then I thought, who of this group do I 289 00:13:16,920 --> 00:13:20,439 Speaker 2: actually want to watch more of? It? Is Charles and 290 00:13:20,559 --> 00:13:25,040 Speaker 2: he is the most endearing person I've really ever come across, 291 00:13:26,000 --> 00:13:28,160 Speaker 2: like the most so can. 292 00:13:28,040 --> 00:13:34,440 Speaker 4: You imagine twenty five older women? I guess when you Yeah, if. 293 00:13:34,320 --> 00:13:37,400 Speaker 2: You want a Golden bachelor that is just like you 294 00:13:37,440 --> 00:13:42,040 Speaker 2: cannot stop watching it because he's just too cute and 295 00:13:42,160 --> 00:13:45,320 Speaker 2: that's the guy, you know, Like, I don't know what 296 00:13:45,400 --> 00:13:47,520 Speaker 2: kind of grand romance might come out of this. 297 00:13:48,240 --> 00:13:51,120 Speaker 3: I don't even know if he talks about how he 298 00:13:51,280 --> 00:13:54,400 Speaker 3: wants he's ready to move on. Is this evil of 299 00:13:54,440 --> 00:13:54,960 Speaker 3: me to say? 300 00:13:55,720 --> 00:13:57,240 Speaker 4: No, it's idealist? 301 00:13:57,480 --> 00:14:00,280 Speaker 3: Okay, that's what it is. It's me just being like. 302 00:14:01,400 --> 00:14:04,080 Speaker 4: You romantic, right, buddy, your soulmate. 303 00:14:04,320 --> 00:14:06,880 Speaker 3: Not evil, too romantic exactly. 304 00:14:07,679 --> 00:14:10,880 Speaker 2: All right, Well, it's just because he's just the way 305 00:14:10,880 --> 00:14:12,679 Speaker 2: that he talks about his wife, you know, I mean, 306 00:14:12,720 --> 00:14:16,720 Speaker 2: say with Mark and Mark. Actually, there was nothing. There 307 00:14:16,760 --> 00:14:21,320 Speaker 2: was no huge Mark moments to me in this episode. 308 00:14:21,120 --> 00:14:26,680 Speaker 3: Except for precisely the post it note. 309 00:14:26,400 --> 00:14:30,080 Speaker 2: That he said that he gave to Jonathan saying that, like, 310 00:14:30,280 --> 00:14:32,800 Speaker 2: you know, if I'm not around tomorrow, which he meant 311 00:14:32,840 --> 00:14:34,280 Speaker 2: like if I don't get a rose. 312 00:14:34,440 --> 00:14:39,600 Speaker 4: Not obviously dying, Yes, just know that. 313 00:14:39,560 --> 00:14:42,000 Speaker 2: You're like a great man, and he like had listed 314 00:14:42,040 --> 00:14:44,080 Speaker 2: like all these attributes that he admired from him. 315 00:14:44,200 --> 00:14:45,160 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's really sweet. 316 00:14:45,240 --> 00:14:47,280 Speaker 3: Can you would you do that if you were in 317 00:14:47,320 --> 00:14:48,600 Speaker 3: the house with these men. 318 00:14:49,560 --> 00:14:50,760 Speaker 4: I'm trying to think of who I would do it. 319 00:14:50,800 --> 00:14:52,600 Speaker 3: I feel like Ben would do it to you. 320 00:14:53,280 --> 00:14:55,920 Speaker 4: He will do it for me. Ben, Relax, I'm not 321 00:14:55,920 --> 00:15:00,280 Speaker 4: that great, very sweet, but I'm not deserving of this. 322 00:15:00,960 --> 00:15:03,080 Speaker 4: You can write like you're okay, You're doing a good job, 323 00:15:03,160 --> 00:15:08,680 Speaker 4: and then I'd be like, all right, thanks, I appreciate that. Yeah, Like, 324 00:15:08,800 --> 00:15:09,240 Speaker 4: do you. 325 00:15:09,160 --> 00:15:14,720 Speaker 3: See yourself in thirty years softer in that way? 326 00:15:15,600 --> 00:15:17,960 Speaker 4: Yeah? It's interesting because I think there's areas in my 327 00:15:18,000 --> 00:15:20,680 Speaker 4: life where I've become hardened, and then there are areas 328 00:15:20,680 --> 00:15:25,080 Speaker 4: in my life where I've become softer. You know, I 329 00:15:25,120 --> 00:15:30,760 Speaker 4: was actually thinking yesterday when I was feeding Hayden introspectively 330 00:15:31,040 --> 00:15:36,680 Speaker 4: about you know, like, what how Hayden's going to view 331 00:15:36,760 --> 00:15:40,200 Speaker 4: me as a as a dad? And you know, it's 332 00:15:40,200 --> 00:15:42,640 Speaker 4: a weird thought. What type of man are you going 333 00:15:42,680 --> 00:15:44,320 Speaker 4: to think I am? You know, I hope you think 334 00:15:44,400 --> 00:15:45,120 Speaker 4: I'm a good man. 335 00:15:45,080 --> 00:15:48,680 Speaker 2: But you're wonderful, I was there. That's not wonderful. Lots 336 00:15:48,720 --> 00:15:51,640 Speaker 2: of things, definitely, like the work. Well, you know, I 337 00:15:51,680 --> 00:15:54,040 Speaker 2: can't say that working too much is a negative thing. 338 00:15:54,240 --> 00:16:00,480 Speaker 4: No, actually as well, but anyway, but that's an area 339 00:16:00,520 --> 00:16:02,640 Speaker 4: where I think I've become softer in terms of thinking. 340 00:16:02,960 --> 00:16:06,480 Speaker 4: You know, grandioso. It's with kids because it just puts 341 00:16:06,640 --> 00:16:11,040 Speaker 4: you know, you start thinking about your place in life, 342 00:16:11,040 --> 00:16:14,880 Speaker 4: not so much about your own being, but in terms 343 00:16:14,960 --> 00:16:18,880 Speaker 4: of okay, well, I'm here in this world, and my 344 00:16:18,920 --> 00:16:21,400 Speaker 4: most important thing is not just like living, but just 345 00:16:21,760 --> 00:16:24,480 Speaker 4: being there for Dawson and Hayden, Like I want to 346 00:16:24,480 --> 00:16:26,560 Speaker 4: live as long as possible, right, because I want to 347 00:16:26,600 --> 00:16:29,560 Speaker 4: be there as long as possible for them. Yeah, and 348 00:16:29,720 --> 00:16:33,280 Speaker 4: that has obviously that mindset has been different the past 349 00:16:33,280 --> 00:16:35,400 Speaker 4: three years since having kids than it was prior. 350 00:16:35,640 --> 00:16:35,840 Speaker 3: Yeah. 351 00:16:36,080 --> 00:16:37,200 Speaker 4: Right, It's like, well, I want to live as long 352 00:16:37,200 --> 00:16:40,120 Speaker 4: as possible because I want to do things and breathe 353 00:16:40,160 --> 00:16:43,000 Speaker 4: and I appreciate life and I'm grateful for life, which 354 00:16:43,000 --> 00:16:45,400 Speaker 4: all those things are true still, but now it's also 355 00:16:45,480 --> 00:16:46,880 Speaker 4: shifted to be like, well, now I want to be 356 00:16:46,880 --> 00:16:49,640 Speaker 4: here as long as possible because you know, I don't want, 357 00:16:50,080 --> 00:16:52,600 Speaker 4: you know, Dawson to be fifteen and something happened and 358 00:16:52,640 --> 00:16:55,040 Speaker 4: then he you know, kind of grows out without a dad, 359 00:16:55,120 --> 00:16:56,080 Speaker 4: like I want to be there for him. 360 00:16:56,120 --> 00:16:56,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly. 361 00:16:56,840 --> 00:16:59,560 Speaker 2: Like I think we've talked about this before, but I 362 00:16:59,680 --> 00:17:02,000 Speaker 2: never really thought of like my own death as like 363 00:17:02,040 --> 00:17:05,320 Speaker 2: an emotional thing. I never thought of like me getting 364 00:17:05,320 --> 00:17:07,680 Speaker 2: in the car and like something bad happening. 365 00:17:08,040 --> 00:17:09,639 Speaker 3: Or you know, on a plan or whatnot. 366 00:17:09,840 --> 00:17:11,160 Speaker 4: You think about you your family. 367 00:17:11,280 --> 00:17:13,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, you're always thinking about like you're worried about their flight, 368 00:17:13,680 --> 00:17:17,320 Speaker 2: not your own flight. And then being a parent, you 369 00:17:17,359 --> 00:17:19,320 Speaker 2: think about your own flight, and then you think about 370 00:17:19,320 --> 00:17:23,399 Speaker 2: your what you know why he's of transportation, but you 371 00:17:23,440 --> 00:17:24,199 Speaker 2: know we all think of it. 372 00:17:24,280 --> 00:17:26,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, but it's like, oh my god, something happened to me. 373 00:17:26,359 --> 00:17:29,120 Speaker 2: Then you start like I start like, well up now 374 00:17:29,200 --> 00:17:43,439 Speaker 2: thinking about how their life would be. Yeah, okay, well, 375 00:17:43,760 --> 00:17:47,080 Speaker 2: yes we're all mushier with age and children. 376 00:17:47,960 --> 00:17:51,560 Speaker 3: So other thing I'd like to mention is. 377 00:17:52,480 --> 00:17:55,720 Speaker 2: You didn't see this part, but there's this one guy 378 00:17:55,800 --> 00:17:59,679 Speaker 2: and he was a captain of a military ship Kim 379 00:17:59,760 --> 00:18:02,320 Speaker 2: So he wrote this song is called the Mansion Men, 380 00:18:02,880 --> 00:18:06,120 Speaker 2: and it's actually quite catchy. I'm like, this guy might 381 00:18:06,200 --> 00:18:08,879 Speaker 2: have some musical talent. And on the show it was 382 00:18:08,880 --> 00:18:11,560 Speaker 2: supposed to be kind of like an embarrassing moment for him. Yeah, 383 00:18:12,440 --> 00:18:14,240 Speaker 2: nobody wanted to sing it. They were supposed to sing 384 00:18:14,240 --> 00:18:16,160 Speaker 2: it like on a row ceremony night, and only guy 385 00:18:16,400 --> 00:18:20,240 Speaker 2: was down to sing it with him and in order 386 00:18:20,320 --> 00:18:24,800 Speaker 2: to bring him more pride, they had the LA's Gay 387 00:18:24,920 --> 00:18:28,120 Speaker 2: Man Chorus come out and sing this song in its 388 00:18:28,160 --> 00:18:32,879 Speaker 2: glory and it's great, great song, but you didn't see it. 389 00:18:32,880 --> 00:18:35,560 Speaker 2: But I just wanted to say, great song. He may 390 00:18:35,640 --> 00:18:37,360 Speaker 2: have fallen asleep for this part. 391 00:18:37,640 --> 00:18:40,000 Speaker 4: That's not true. My eye was half open. 392 00:18:41,880 --> 00:18:46,639 Speaker 2: And then finally we get to the end where we 393 00:18:46,680 --> 00:18:51,480 Speaker 2: see the scenes from the next episode, the finale, the finale. 394 00:18:51,840 --> 00:18:56,439 Speaker 2: Jared was away for this, and I feel like the 395 00:18:56,560 --> 00:19:01,680 Speaker 2: biggest takeaway is that Jonas and seem that smiley. 396 00:19:02,280 --> 00:19:04,240 Speaker 4: She's definitely not smiley. 397 00:19:03,840 --> 00:19:07,960 Speaker 2: But her reaction, her facial expression looks a lot like 398 00:19:08,040 --> 00:19:12,560 Speaker 2: what Gens did at her mantella whenever they would like 399 00:19:12,600 --> 00:19:14,720 Speaker 2: preview Gen's reaction for like the next week. 400 00:19:15,880 --> 00:19:19,240 Speaker 4: What is the name of the guy she picked? Devin? 401 00:19:19,520 --> 00:19:21,120 Speaker 3: Yes, but look at that. 402 00:19:21,119 --> 00:19:29,199 Speaker 2: That shows you just how fleeting the Bachelor audience memory is. 403 00:19:29,760 --> 00:19:34,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, well there's just so many names. I remember his face, well, yeah, 404 00:19:34,040 --> 00:19:39,280 Speaker 4: I remember that face. Joan's definitely not smiling. It's hard 405 00:19:39,359 --> 00:19:41,280 Speaker 4: to tell if she's. 406 00:19:41,119 --> 00:19:44,280 Speaker 3: Trying to hold back exact be an actress. 407 00:19:44,160 --> 00:19:49,320 Speaker 4: Exactly or what's real? You know, if she's trying. 408 00:19:49,040 --> 00:19:52,359 Speaker 3: To I don't think she's a very good actress. 409 00:19:54,000 --> 00:19:56,200 Speaker 4: I mean, I guess we'll find out if she's super happy. 410 00:19:56,520 --> 00:19:57,000 Speaker 3: I don't know. 411 00:19:57,040 --> 00:19:59,800 Speaker 2: See, this is just my my feeling the entire time 412 00:20:00,200 --> 00:20:03,879 Speaker 2: is that like her guy wasn't really there. I think 413 00:20:03,960 --> 00:20:08,400 Speaker 2: that that Chock is the closest that she's gonna get there. 414 00:20:08,800 --> 00:20:11,040 Speaker 4: So you think that she's gonna break up with Chalk. 415 00:20:10,960 --> 00:20:11,320 Speaker 3: No, no, no no. 416 00:20:11,600 --> 00:20:13,280 Speaker 2: I think that she's gonna be with Chock. And then 417 00:20:13,320 --> 00:20:15,360 Speaker 2: I think she's gonna get in real life and realize, like. 418 00:20:15,800 --> 00:20:17,000 Speaker 4: So they broke up after the show. 419 00:20:17,160 --> 00:20:18,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, oh, I definitely think. 420 00:20:19,160 --> 00:20:23,320 Speaker 2: Sorry, I definitely, I definitely think that she ends up 421 00:20:23,359 --> 00:20:25,240 Speaker 2: with him. I just don't know what the status of 422 00:20:25,280 --> 00:20:26,320 Speaker 2: their relationship is now. 423 00:20:26,480 --> 00:20:30,040 Speaker 4: If they end up together and then break up before 424 00:20:30,119 --> 00:20:34,439 Speaker 4: or after, that would be bad, like, oh my goodness, gracious, 425 00:20:34,520 --> 00:20:35,240 Speaker 4: grape balls. 426 00:20:35,760 --> 00:20:38,000 Speaker 2: Just but do you know it's worse just stay together 427 00:20:38,320 --> 00:20:40,760 Speaker 2: married after four months of meeting each other. 428 00:20:40,760 --> 00:20:43,679 Speaker 4: That's bad. Don't get married and then divorced. Don't get married. 429 00:20:44,359 --> 00:20:47,960 Speaker 4: But I don't know, I hope not. I mean, how 430 00:20:48,000 --> 00:20:49,840 Speaker 4: long ago did they film? Like three months ago? Four 431 00:20:49,880 --> 00:20:53,000 Speaker 4: months ago? I think it started in June, so like 432 00:20:53,600 --> 00:20:56,600 Speaker 4: they probably ended in August, so you're talking about September October. 433 00:20:56,600 --> 00:20:59,080 Speaker 4: It's been two months. I mean, this is all you know, 434 00:20:59,200 --> 00:21:02,600 Speaker 4: this is all assumptions here, we're just speaking out of 435 00:21:02,640 --> 00:21:03,639 Speaker 4: the out of our butts. 436 00:21:03,680 --> 00:21:08,760 Speaker 3: But look at us, where the opposite. We're the opposite. 437 00:21:09,240 --> 00:21:10,680 Speaker 3: You didn't like me on the show, and then you 438 00:21:10,720 --> 00:21:11,600 Speaker 3: love me in my life. 439 00:21:12,400 --> 00:21:15,080 Speaker 4: Look at that, and then so that. 440 00:21:14,920 --> 00:21:18,600 Speaker 3: Can just those flips, those flip flips can switch. 441 00:21:20,000 --> 00:21:24,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, of course can flip switches do flip It's correct. 442 00:21:25,520 --> 00:21:28,480 Speaker 4: But yeah, I mean, listen, I hope she's with Chalk. 443 00:21:28,920 --> 00:21:30,960 Speaker 4: I mean, I can't even I don't know what type 444 00:21:30,960 --> 00:21:33,000 Speaker 4: of drama this final episode's going to bring, because it's like, 445 00:21:33,800 --> 00:21:36,040 Speaker 4: is she even like, does anybody think she's gonna end 446 00:21:36,080 --> 00:21:38,320 Speaker 4: up with guy? I know they saw that show. That preview, 447 00:21:38,400 --> 00:21:40,119 Speaker 4: Guy was saying that I'm in love with you. 448 00:21:40,640 --> 00:21:42,639 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, he said, I'm ready to get engaged, 449 00:21:42,640 --> 00:21:44,239 Speaker 2: like I would propose to you. Yeah, And it's not 450 00:21:44,280 --> 00:21:45,960 Speaker 2: like the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard in my 451 00:21:46,080 --> 00:21:48,280 Speaker 2: entire life. I've never seen two people so neutral about 452 00:21:48,320 --> 00:21:48,640 Speaker 2: each other. 453 00:21:48,720 --> 00:21:52,280 Speaker 4: Yeah. So again, I hope that what I hope is 454 00:21:52,320 --> 00:21:55,879 Speaker 4: that guy, with all due respect, good looking, seems very nice, 455 00:21:56,119 --> 00:21:59,320 Speaker 4: he sing He sung the song, but eliminate guy. 456 00:21:59,359 --> 00:22:00,960 Speaker 3: He did sing this song and that was one of 457 00:22:00,960 --> 00:22:01,840 Speaker 3: his glory moments. 458 00:22:01,880 --> 00:22:03,879 Speaker 4: I hope that the tension in the episode is not 459 00:22:03,920 --> 00:22:06,480 Speaker 4: between who she picks, but rather if she ends up 460 00:22:06,520 --> 00:22:11,639 Speaker 4: picking Chok because of the guilt that she feels from 461 00:22:11,760 --> 00:22:15,240 Speaker 4: you know, her obviously past relationship. Yes, yes, so that 462 00:22:15,280 --> 00:22:18,239 Speaker 4: would be far more interesting to me if there is 463 00:22:18,280 --> 00:22:20,080 Speaker 4: this sense of guilt that she feels. I mean, I 464 00:22:20,119 --> 00:22:22,240 Speaker 4: hope she doesn't feel this way. Obviously, I want Joan 465 00:22:22,280 --> 00:22:24,480 Speaker 4: to be happy. I don't. I don't. I don't think 466 00:22:24,480 --> 00:22:26,560 Speaker 4: that she's doing anything wrong. I don't think she's doing 467 00:22:26,600 --> 00:22:28,880 Speaker 4: anything wrong at all, Like she should move on. I'm 468 00:22:28,920 --> 00:22:32,640 Speaker 4: sure a lot of people close in her, in her 469 00:22:32,720 --> 00:22:35,000 Speaker 4: circle want her to move on and be able to 470 00:22:35,119 --> 00:22:37,800 Speaker 4: you know, be happy again. But I'm sure just from 471 00:22:37,800 --> 00:22:40,160 Speaker 4: a human being standpoint, she feels lottle guilty, and plus 472 00:22:40,240 --> 00:22:44,240 Speaker 4: from a TV as aspect, like that is compelling stuff. 473 00:22:44,760 --> 00:22:46,320 Speaker 4: If the reason that she feels like she might not 474 00:22:46,400 --> 00:22:49,240 Speaker 4: pick Chok is just because she has this overwhelming sense 475 00:22:49,240 --> 00:22:51,320 Speaker 4: of guilt, which they showed in the episode, a little 476 00:22:51,320 --> 00:22:55,520 Speaker 4: bit of you know, you know, and is this the 477 00:22:55,600 --> 00:22:58,960 Speaker 4: right thing to do? Which I get? I mean, how 478 00:22:59,000 --> 00:22:59,880 Speaker 4: can you not think that. 479 00:23:00,160 --> 00:23:03,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, not that it would be very It would be 480 00:23:03,080 --> 00:23:04,960 Speaker 2: a lot of sense for this part of the franchise. 481 00:23:05,080 --> 00:23:08,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, if I was in that predicament, I would think 482 00:23:08,520 --> 00:23:11,160 Speaker 4: the exact same thing. And I'm sure my friends would 483 00:23:11,200 --> 00:23:12,760 Speaker 4: tell me exactly what I would tell Joan, which is, 484 00:23:12,800 --> 00:23:16,280 Speaker 4: you're not doing anything wrong. But it's hard to think. 485 00:23:16,080 --> 00:23:20,400 Speaker 3: That my ghost would say you're doing something wrong. I'm kidding. 486 00:23:20,520 --> 00:23:24,120 Speaker 4: I would not actually haunted the after life only for. 487 00:23:24,080 --> 00:23:29,120 Speaker 3: A few years. I'd haunt you like that, only. 488 00:23:28,880 --> 00:23:33,240 Speaker 4: For a few years. Okay, hopefully I don't. I mean, 489 00:23:33,280 --> 00:23:37,520 Speaker 4: I hope I die before you. Well, statistically speaking, i'll die, yes, 490 00:23:37,800 --> 00:23:40,120 Speaker 4: I guess. So is that so weird to think I'll 491 00:23:40,160 --> 00:23:40,719 Speaker 4: die before you? 492 00:23:40,840 --> 00:23:43,800 Speaker 2: You'll see me die, Jared, that's the worst thing I've 493 00:23:43,840 --> 00:23:45,280 Speaker 2: ever heard, could you know? 494 00:23:45,440 --> 00:23:46,119 Speaker 4: That's so sad. 495 00:23:46,240 --> 00:23:47,200 Speaker 3: That's so sad. 496 00:23:47,400 --> 00:23:50,440 Speaker 4: Hopefully many many, many many years from now. 497 00:23:51,560 --> 00:23:53,919 Speaker 3: And on that note, I'm gonna go cry. 498 00:23:54,160 --> 00:23:54,880 Speaker 4: No, don't cry. 499 00:23:55,720 --> 00:23:59,560 Speaker 3: I will see you guys next time, and Jared probably won't. 500 00:23:59,600 --> 00:24:02,040 Speaker 4: But until then, but you'll see Ben and Ben's better. 501 00:24:02,160 --> 00:24:04,080 Speaker 4: So let's just all be honest, which I'm totally fine with. 502 00:24:04,320 --> 00:24:07,480 Speaker 4: I'm fine being if Ben's an A minus. I'm fine 503 00:24:07,520 --> 00:24:09,200 Speaker 4: being a B minus C plus. 504 00:24:09,920 --> 00:24:13,359 Speaker 3: Why where'd just get B plus? And I'm not gonna 505 00:24:13,359 --> 00:24:14,480 Speaker 3: give my nicoles? 506 00:24:15,160 --> 00:24:17,960 Speaker 4: No? Ben six four, he's got four inches on me. 507 00:24:18,160 --> 00:24:19,760 Speaker 4: I always have to say that, why are you comparing 508 00:24:19,800 --> 00:24:20,679 Speaker 4: your looks right now? 509 00:24:20,680 --> 00:24:22,119 Speaker 3: I didn't think we were talking about that. I was 510 00:24:22,160 --> 00:24:23,480 Speaker 3: talking about quality men. 511 00:24:23,560 --> 00:24:27,639 Speaker 2: You're both such high quality, well say, factable, lovable, kind 512 00:24:27,920 --> 00:24:28,600 Speaker 2: hearted men. 513 00:24:28,760 --> 00:24:32,320 Speaker 4: Ben's a very respectable man. But I would always say like, 514 00:24:32,640 --> 00:24:34,640 Speaker 4: because you know, I feel like Ben and I are 515 00:24:34,640 --> 00:24:37,399 Speaker 4: certain similar, so similar in certain ways. And when we 516 00:24:37,400 --> 00:24:39,520 Speaker 4: were on the show together, I remember just thinking like 517 00:24:39,560 --> 00:24:41,639 Speaker 4: I got no shop being this guy, Like I'm trying 518 00:24:41,640 --> 00:24:44,000 Speaker 4: to be as good as him and so, but he's 519 00:24:44,080 --> 00:24:47,680 Speaker 4: got four inches on me. It's like over why would 520 00:24:47,840 --> 00:24:50,199 Speaker 4: why would she ever pick me over him? It's just 521 00:24:50,240 --> 00:24:50,800 Speaker 4: not happening. 522 00:24:50,920 --> 00:24:53,640 Speaker 2: The thing is with Ben on that season, people are 523 00:24:53,640 --> 00:24:55,960 Speaker 2: so tired of her hearing this say this. But like 524 00:24:56,760 --> 00:24:59,280 Speaker 2: when he did that sex talk with the kids, I 525 00:24:59,440 --> 00:25:01,600 Speaker 2: was like, no one can beat this man. 526 00:25:01,560 --> 00:25:04,240 Speaker 4: Trust me. I was like, this, fing guy, you didn't 527 00:25:04,520 --> 00:25:04,840 Speaker 4: see it. 528 00:25:04,880 --> 00:25:06,919 Speaker 3: You already been there, you saw it back on TV. 529 00:25:07,840 --> 00:25:09,120 Speaker 3: You weren't on that date. 530 00:25:09,200 --> 00:25:10,040 Speaker 4: I was on that date. 531 00:25:10,080 --> 00:25:11,120 Speaker 3: You were on that date. 532 00:25:11,240 --> 00:25:13,919 Speaker 4: Yes, I was on that date. The sex talk with 533 00:25:13,960 --> 00:25:14,359 Speaker 4: the kids. 534 00:25:14,480 --> 00:25:17,200 Speaker 3: I don't remember them showing you talk to the kids 535 00:25:17,200 --> 00:25:17,439 Speaker 3: at all. 536 00:25:17,960 --> 00:25:19,960 Speaker 4: My big date was the week before the boxing. 537 00:25:19,760 --> 00:25:21,840 Speaker 3: Day you got you barely got any air. 538 00:25:22,560 --> 00:25:24,679 Speaker 4: No, they showed me and I had my black eye 539 00:25:25,040 --> 00:25:27,560 Speaker 4: and was a fun date. 540 00:25:28,960 --> 00:25:32,679 Speaker 2: I'm sure you probably totally excelled in that too. Well 541 00:25:32,960 --> 00:25:35,680 Speaker 2: already imagine like you would be so good at that. 542 00:25:35,760 --> 00:25:38,000 Speaker 2: But the fact that like they showed Ben like he's 543 00:25:38,040 --> 00:25:38,880 Speaker 2: like walking down. 544 00:25:39,760 --> 00:25:42,199 Speaker 4: Started walking down the aisle, I'm like, why did I 545 00:25:42,240 --> 00:25:44,880 Speaker 4: not do this? And they had me go before Ben, 546 00:25:45,480 --> 00:25:47,639 Speaker 4: So I'm like, damn it, can I do mine again? Please? 547 00:25:48,040 --> 00:25:51,399 Speaker 2: Do you think that they saved Ben for last knowing 548 00:25:51,440 --> 00:25:52,639 Speaker 2: that he was just gonna kill it. 549 00:25:52,760 --> 00:25:53,840 Speaker 3: He's like a youth minister. 550 00:25:53,960 --> 00:25:55,679 Speaker 4: And they probably were like, Ben, you know, if you 551 00:25:55,760 --> 00:25:58,240 Speaker 4: feel like you want to like walk up to you, yest, 552 00:25:58,680 --> 00:26:01,800 Speaker 4: feel free to buddy, And they're like, Jared, stay up front, 553 00:26:01,840 --> 00:26:02,480 Speaker 4: don't bot. 554 00:26:03,960 --> 00:26:07,119 Speaker 3: Oh good times. Now we're actually signing off, bye, guys. 555 00:26:07,840 --> 00:26:10,800 Speaker 1: Follow the Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous podcasts on 556 00:26:10,840 --> 00:26:14,080 Speaker 1: iHeartRadio or subscribe wherever you listen to podcasts.