1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:27,520 Speaker 1: Ridiculous History is a production of iHeartRadio. Welcome back to 2 00:00:27,560 --> 00:00:30,760 Speaker 1: the show, fellow Ridiculous Historians. Thank you, as always so 3 00:00:30,960 --> 00:00:33,880 Speaker 1: much for tuning in. Let's hear it for the man, 4 00:00:34,040 --> 00:00:38,199 Speaker 1: the myth, the legend, Max the cat Slave, williams. 5 00:00:43,560 --> 00:00:45,880 Speaker 2: Oh Kiddy got Claws, and. 6 00:00:45,960 --> 00:00:49,240 Speaker 1: There is none other than mister Noel Brown of Fellow 7 00:00:49,400 --> 00:00:52,040 Speaker 1: Lover of Feline's. Noel, how are you feeling today? 8 00:00:52,440 --> 00:00:55,720 Speaker 2: I'm pretty good, Ben. We had a s we had 9 00:00:55,720 --> 00:00:58,200 Speaker 2: a mind meld off mic uh, And I'm just gonna 10 00:00:58,280 --> 00:01:00,600 Speaker 2: kind of tease it a little bit. I was walking today, 11 00:01:00,720 --> 00:01:03,080 Speaker 2: doing my little morning walk around this pond that is 12 00:01:03,120 --> 00:01:07,920 Speaker 2: also occupied by geese, and there is poop everywhere, and 13 00:01:08,000 --> 00:01:15,720 Speaker 2: every time I go, I think goose poop riot. 14 00:01:15,600 --> 00:01:16,520 Speaker 1: Ut talking about it. 15 00:01:16,880 --> 00:01:19,120 Speaker 2: There you go. I'm not talking about goose poop riots. Today, 16 00:01:19,160 --> 00:01:21,400 Speaker 2: We're talking about cat net riot. 17 00:01:21,840 --> 00:01:26,200 Speaker 1: My name is Ben Bollen, and we are talking about 18 00:01:26,319 --> 00:01:29,559 Speaker 1: something that is a riot. Today's episode is a riot. 19 00:01:29,600 --> 00:01:33,040 Speaker 1: It's not in the way you might assume, Fellow Ridiculous Historians. 20 00:01:33,120 --> 00:01:35,440 Speaker 1: We're excited for this one, and I love the way 21 00:01:35,440 --> 00:01:38,600 Speaker 1: you teas and we are excited because this comes to 22 00:01:38,680 --> 00:01:43,800 Speaker 1: us via a listener suggestion from a fellow ridiculous historian, 23 00:01:44,120 --> 00:01:48,880 Speaker 1: Stacey r. Over on our Facebook group page Ridiculous Historians. 24 00:01:49,080 --> 00:01:53,240 Speaker 2: A shout out to all the ridiculous historians the world 25 00:01:53,480 --> 00:01:56,200 Speaker 2: over and Ben, if we do our job right or 26 00:01:56,240 --> 00:01:59,160 Speaker 2: even a little right, today's episode may well also be 27 00:01:59,200 --> 00:01:59,960 Speaker 2: a laugh riot. 28 00:02:00,520 --> 00:02:04,080 Speaker 1: Hey, you know what, We're not going to force it, 29 00:02:04,120 --> 00:02:06,320 Speaker 1: but I think we'll crack each other up a couple 30 00:02:06,360 --> 00:02:06,760 Speaker 1: of times. 31 00:02:07,120 --> 00:02:09,720 Speaker 2: That's all. That's all we can ask for. 32 00:02:09,800 --> 00:02:11,600 Speaker 1: It's all we could ask for, Nola, and we hope 33 00:02:11,639 --> 00:02:14,520 Speaker 1: it gives you a chuckle as well. Let us know 34 00:02:14,960 --> 00:02:18,200 Speaker 1: this episode is also for fellow fans of our third 35 00:02:18,320 --> 00:02:21,840 Speaker 1: feline friends. That's a little bit too much alliteration, but 36 00:02:22,040 --> 00:02:26,080 Speaker 1: never if you ask me, there, you go there. So 37 00:02:26,680 --> 00:02:32,040 Speaker 1: we established this in previous episodes. Nol and Max housecats 38 00:02:32,120 --> 00:02:35,640 Speaker 1: are somewhat unique in the world of domestication, and there's 39 00:02:35,680 --> 00:02:41,040 Speaker 1: this pretty convincing argument that they are barely domesticated or 40 00:02:41,120 --> 00:02:43,200 Speaker 1: self domesticated at all. 41 00:02:43,560 --> 00:02:46,120 Speaker 2: I can attest to that as the as a as 42 00:02:46,160 --> 00:02:50,000 Speaker 2: A as a cat dad, there's still some fairal action 43 00:02:50,160 --> 00:02:52,600 Speaker 2: going on in there in those kitty brains. 44 00:02:52,919 --> 00:02:55,440 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, you may have a cat that absolutely loves you, 45 00:02:55,520 --> 00:02:57,840 Speaker 1: and then just wanders off for a few weeks and 46 00:02:57,880 --> 00:03:01,320 Speaker 1: then comes back three weeks later, like, what's your big deal? 47 00:03:01,360 --> 00:03:02,320 Speaker 1: What's your malfunction? 48 00:03:02,639 --> 00:03:06,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, and discovers your rotting corpse and then proceeds to 49 00:03:06,320 --> 00:03:07,639 Speaker 2: eat your eyeballs. 50 00:03:07,240 --> 00:03:08,519 Speaker 1: Which dogs will do as well. 51 00:03:08,800 --> 00:03:12,480 Speaker 2: Oh fair enough, Ben, I'm sorry to malign cats in 52 00:03:12,520 --> 00:03:14,480 Speaker 2: this way. It's something that I always say. But Ben, 53 00:03:14,520 --> 00:03:15,919 Speaker 2: I would argue that the cats would do. 54 00:03:15,880 --> 00:03:20,680 Speaker 1: It quicker time to experiment, Max Dark. 55 00:03:21,120 --> 00:03:22,600 Speaker 3: I think the cats would have a lot more fun 56 00:03:22,639 --> 00:03:23,120 Speaker 3: doing it too. 57 00:03:23,200 --> 00:03:26,240 Speaker 2: They'd play with you. They would bat you around like 58 00:03:25,840 --> 00:03:26,920 Speaker 2: a cat toy. 59 00:03:27,360 --> 00:03:32,200 Speaker 3: As a cat dad of a very precious, adorable feral 60 00:03:32,320 --> 00:03:35,960 Speaker 3: cat who is ten years soon to be eleven years old, Yeah, 61 00:03:36,320 --> 00:03:37,480 Speaker 3: you know, I look at her. I'm like, yeah, if 62 00:03:37,480 --> 00:03:41,120 Speaker 3: you were gonna get not feral, it would have already happened, right, Yeah. 63 00:03:41,800 --> 00:03:46,680 Speaker 1: Old cat owners or cat friends have witnessed some anecdotal 64 00:03:46,720 --> 00:03:50,080 Speaker 1: evidence about this lack of domestication at one point where 65 00:03:50,120 --> 00:03:54,640 Speaker 1: another maybe your cat has Like our friend Lauren Vogelbaum, 66 00:03:54,680 --> 00:03:57,440 Speaker 1: one of her cats decided that she was a crappy hunter, 67 00:03:57,920 --> 00:04:02,280 Speaker 1: and so it started kill small animals and bringing them 68 00:04:02,360 --> 00:04:05,520 Speaker 1: to the list of these events goes on and on. 69 00:04:06,040 --> 00:04:10,520 Speaker 1: Share yours on our Facebook page. Cats are famously motivated 70 00:04:10,600 --> 00:04:13,480 Speaker 1: by their own self interest. You know, you can train 71 00:04:14,120 --> 00:04:16,760 Speaker 1: house cats to some degree, but they're not going to 72 00:04:16,839 --> 00:04:21,279 Speaker 1: be like dogs capable of repressing instincts due to training. 73 00:04:21,600 --> 00:04:24,719 Speaker 1: If a cat doesn't like what you're pitching, the cat's 74 00:04:24,760 --> 00:04:26,320 Speaker 1: gonna throw all that crap out the. 75 00:04:26,279 --> 00:04:30,120 Speaker 2: Window literally sometimes, or the very least push it off 76 00:04:30,160 --> 00:04:33,000 Speaker 2: the ledge aggressively while maintaining eye contact. 77 00:04:33,240 --> 00:04:35,279 Speaker 1: Yeah, they'll throw it all out the window. All that 78 00:04:35,360 --> 00:04:38,040 Speaker 1: training is bupkus. If they decide they want to do 79 00:04:38,160 --> 00:04:41,240 Speaker 1: something else, and back in nineteen oh nine New York, 80 00:04:41,600 --> 00:04:45,080 Speaker 1: a bunch of cats banded together to do just that. 81 00:04:45,640 --> 00:04:48,279 Speaker 1: This is the ridiculous history of the nineteen oh nine 82 00:04:48,360 --> 00:04:52,320 Speaker 1: cat Nip Riot. And spoiler, this is also one for 83 00:04:52,440 --> 00:04:57,000 Speaker 1: fans of our earlier Napoleon episode nol. I think folks 84 00:04:57,040 --> 00:04:59,320 Speaker 1: will see what we mean in a bit, and you're. 85 00:04:59,120 --> 00:05:01,359 Speaker 2: Talking about the the Bunny Mob. 86 00:05:01,800 --> 00:05:04,240 Speaker 1: We're talking a bit about a bunny mob. 87 00:05:04,120 --> 00:05:05,839 Speaker 2: Not to be confused with the Goodie Mob and the 88 00:05:05,880 --> 00:05:06,600 Speaker 2: Dungeon family. 89 00:05:07,120 --> 00:05:19,000 Speaker 1: Let's get into it. So a brief bit of foreshadowing, 90 00:05:19,080 --> 00:05:22,000 Speaker 1: a brief bit of background and context. 91 00:05:22,080 --> 00:05:22,359 Speaker 2: Here. 92 00:05:23,839 --> 00:05:25,960 Speaker 1: You've heard the phrase gig economy. 93 00:05:26,080 --> 00:05:28,839 Speaker 2: We all have, right, Yeah, it's become a bit of 94 00:05:28,880 --> 00:05:33,560 Speaker 2: a buzz phrase in this our modern era, specifically referring 95 00:05:33,600 --> 00:05:38,839 Speaker 2: to folks who maybe are no longer able to maintain, 96 00:05:39,279 --> 00:05:42,000 Speaker 2: you know, the old school type of employment, a salaried, 97 00:05:42,000 --> 00:05:45,880 Speaker 2: full time job, and instead perhaps has to do multiple 98 00:05:46,520 --> 00:05:51,000 Speaker 2: gig based things like driving Uber or delivering groceries for Instacart, 99 00:05:51,240 --> 00:05:53,800 Speaker 2: or being a task rabbit some I know, all the 100 00:05:53,839 --> 00:05:56,200 Speaker 2: ones that I'm listening are Internet based, but that is 101 00:05:56,279 --> 00:05:58,120 Speaker 2: kind of what it's become. And I think usually how 102 00:05:58,120 --> 00:05:59,000 Speaker 2: it's used. 103 00:05:59,320 --> 00:06:03,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, taken on other temp work. And it's weird because, 104 00:06:03,800 --> 00:06:07,760 Speaker 1: at least here in North America, so in Canada, Mexico, 105 00:06:07,800 --> 00:06:10,960 Speaker 1: and the United States, people are still divided on whether 106 00:06:11,080 --> 00:06:13,920 Speaker 1: this is a good, neutral or a very bad thing. 107 00:06:14,520 --> 00:06:17,720 Speaker 1: A lot of folks in power recently have tried to 108 00:06:17,760 --> 00:06:23,719 Speaker 1: sell this gig economy thing as an overall benefit to 109 00:06:24,040 --> 00:06:27,799 Speaker 1: public society. And they've said, hey, you know Ted talks 110 00:06:28,160 --> 00:06:31,440 Speaker 1: around the world or at symposiums, they've said, hey, a 111 00:06:31,440 --> 00:06:34,720 Speaker 1: lot of folks in this gig economy guys, they like it. 112 00:06:34,760 --> 00:06:37,200 Speaker 1: They want it that way. It gives them more flexibility 113 00:06:37,279 --> 00:06:41,240 Speaker 1: with their families or going to school, or pursuing hobbies. 114 00:06:41,240 --> 00:06:43,520 Speaker 2: And there's some truth to that. It absolutely can be 115 00:06:43,600 --> 00:06:46,359 Speaker 2: a flexible way of seeking employment, and I'm certain that 116 00:06:46,360 --> 00:06:48,479 Speaker 2: there are folks that do it and are able to, 117 00:06:49,880 --> 00:06:51,880 Speaker 2: you know, look at it in that exact way. But 118 00:06:52,080 --> 00:06:56,240 Speaker 2: sadly the nature of our economy is moving further and 119 00:06:56,279 --> 00:07:00,719 Speaker 2: further away from traditional type employments, especially as things like 120 00:07:00,760 --> 00:07:03,080 Speaker 2: AI come into the picture and all of that good stuff, 121 00:07:03,160 --> 00:07:03,679 Speaker 2: bad stuff. 122 00:07:03,720 --> 00:07:07,400 Speaker 1: Really yeah, yeah, agreed, well put because a lot of 123 00:07:07,440 --> 00:07:11,280 Speaker 1: other people are going to argue that these claims about 124 00:07:11,320 --> 00:07:16,760 Speaker 1: this shiny penny of a gig economy, those claims are 125 00:07:16,840 --> 00:07:21,240 Speaker 1: window dressing, smoke and mirrors. Pretty much everybody, the critics say, 126 00:07:21,400 --> 00:07:25,440 Speaker 1: would prefer a reliable, well paid, single job with a 127 00:07:25,520 --> 00:07:29,920 Speaker 1: clear growth path with stuff like benefits, equity, etc. Wherever 128 00:07:29,920 --> 00:07:32,280 Speaker 1: you fall on that debate, it's a bag of badgers 129 00:07:32,320 --> 00:07:36,240 Speaker 1: for another day. You might ask, why, oh, pray tell, 130 00:07:36,440 --> 00:07:38,880 Speaker 1: are you bringing this up in the first place? Guys? 131 00:07:39,240 --> 00:07:42,440 Speaker 1: That is because the gig economy is not a new thing, 132 00:07:42,640 --> 00:07:46,240 Speaker 1: you know. No, I was thinking about this earlier when 133 00:07:46,240 --> 00:07:51,560 Speaker 1: we're researching some various other episodes. At numerous points throughout history, 134 00:07:52,080 --> 00:07:57,680 Speaker 1: the gig economy was normalized a ton of people, especially 135 00:07:57,760 --> 00:08:01,960 Speaker 1: with the rise of merchant class. They were laboring under 136 00:08:02,040 --> 00:08:04,880 Speaker 1: gig economies, just like the Lazarroti in Naples. 137 00:08:05,160 --> 00:08:08,920 Speaker 2: Oh, much like the previously mentioned I think on stuff 138 00:08:08,960 --> 00:08:11,120 Speaker 2: that I want you to know, folks that we see 139 00:08:11,200 --> 00:08:13,960 Speaker 2: around here in Atlanta doing little pop up fruit stands 140 00:08:14,120 --> 00:08:18,480 Speaker 2: or selling Easter baskets, or around the Easter holiday season, 141 00:08:18,720 --> 00:08:21,320 Speaker 2: or to your point, pivoting to whatever holiday it might be, 142 00:08:21,440 --> 00:08:22,400 Speaker 2: like Valentine's Day. 143 00:08:22,760 --> 00:08:27,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah. The Lazaroni from our Supreme Pizza episode 144 00:08:27,320 --> 00:08:29,680 Speaker 1: were not homeless, but they were living hand to mouth. 145 00:08:29,760 --> 00:08:32,800 Speaker 1: They were searching for whatever daily work they could find, 146 00:08:32,880 --> 00:08:34,959 Speaker 1: or a hustle we would call it in the modern day, 147 00:08:35,200 --> 00:08:38,160 Speaker 1: just like the folks you were mentioning, you know, in 148 00:08:38,240 --> 00:08:43,280 Speaker 1: gas stations across the United States, especially in city cidified areas, 149 00:08:43,840 --> 00:08:47,480 Speaker 1: especially in our fair metropolis of Atlanta. Then we also 150 00:08:47,720 --> 00:08:52,480 Speaker 1: historically see cases of nomadic seasonal labor fairly common in 151 00:08:52,640 --> 00:08:56,319 Speaker 1: US history. You've got itinerant job seekers who would travel 152 00:08:56,440 --> 00:09:00,480 Speaker 1: sometimes across the country, picking up one farm gig before 153 00:09:00,520 --> 00:09:04,400 Speaker 1: moving on to another, and in some cases these folks 154 00:09:04,440 --> 00:09:08,960 Speaker 1: would crisscross the nation multiple times, chasing whatever crop was 155 00:09:09,000 --> 00:09:12,559 Speaker 1: in season. So the gig economy is very much not new. 156 00:09:12,960 --> 00:09:16,920 Speaker 1: People often had a lot of different side hustles, and 157 00:09:17,160 --> 00:09:22,720 Speaker 1: our hapless hero of today's story, ge Herman Gottlieb, He 158 00:09:22,880 --> 00:09:28,959 Speaker 1: is no different. He is an early twentieth century businessman 159 00:09:29,320 --> 00:09:30,240 Speaker 1: in New York City. 160 00:09:30,840 --> 00:09:34,920 Speaker 2: Not quite a tycoon, but a bit of a hustler, 161 00:09:35,120 --> 00:09:37,360 Speaker 2: bit of a self starter, you know, a bit of 162 00:09:37,360 --> 00:09:41,360 Speaker 2: an early kind of startup type dude. And he came 163 00:09:41,480 --> 00:09:43,960 Speaker 2: up with a pretty sweet hustle. We don't know a 164 00:09:44,000 --> 00:09:47,400 Speaker 2: ton about him, as you said. What we do know 165 00:09:47,720 --> 00:09:51,240 Speaker 2: is that he wasn't of that higher echelon class as 166 00:09:51,280 --> 00:09:55,000 Speaker 2: you already said. Man. And so in the newspapers of 167 00:09:55,080 --> 00:09:58,960 Speaker 2: the day, the term businessman was often used a bit 168 00:09:59,000 --> 00:10:04,040 Speaker 2: more generally and diplomatically. Whereas you know today we might 169 00:10:04,080 --> 00:10:08,080 Speaker 2: call someone like him a scrappy hustler. That would have 170 00:10:08,120 --> 00:10:10,439 Speaker 2: been considered rude or at the. 171 00:10:10,480 --> 00:10:15,760 Speaker 1: Very least somewhat demeaning. Right. You would usually only see 172 00:10:15,840 --> 00:10:22,160 Speaker 1: papers calling a merchant of some sort a broke hustler 173 00:10:22,240 --> 00:10:25,520 Speaker 1: or a tinker or a peddler if they had gained 174 00:10:25,600 --> 00:10:30,120 Speaker 1: notoriety for doing something unseemly, you know, selling bad meat, 175 00:10:30,600 --> 00:10:35,920 Speaker 1: or swindling people, or hawking illegal goods. So our guy Gottlieb, 176 00:10:36,280 --> 00:10:38,480 Speaker 1: the best way to think of him is, like so 177 00:10:38,600 --> 00:10:41,640 Speaker 1: many peers of his in New York during this time, 178 00:10:43,320 --> 00:10:47,120 Speaker 1: Herman is a merchant at large. Think of like your 179 00:10:47,200 --> 00:10:50,320 Speaker 1: modern day street vendor. We both spend a lot of 180 00:10:50,360 --> 00:10:54,520 Speaker 1: time in New York City and other very highly developed areas, 181 00:10:54,960 --> 00:10:57,800 Speaker 1: and what I think we have all noticed is that 182 00:10:58,040 --> 00:11:02,200 Speaker 1: there are tons of street vendors actually in tourists, in 183 00:11:02,280 --> 00:11:05,679 Speaker 1: the tourist streets and the tourist districts, and they're selling 184 00:11:06,200 --> 00:11:09,840 Speaker 1: any number of things, and their wares may change day 185 00:11:09,880 --> 00:11:13,200 Speaker 1: to day, and Gottlieb is kind of in this situation. 186 00:11:13,360 --> 00:11:18,640 Speaker 1: It's unreliable income. Fast forward, we're in, you know, August 187 00:11:18,720 --> 00:11:22,200 Speaker 1: of nineteen oh nine, and our buddy, Herman Gottlieb is 188 00:11:22,360 --> 00:11:24,599 Speaker 1: hard up for cash. 189 00:11:24,760 --> 00:11:26,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a good point that you make, too, ben 190 00:11:26,400 --> 00:11:29,640 Speaker 2: about the variety of wares because, as we know, in 191 00:11:29,679 --> 00:11:33,480 Speaker 2: this day and age, short of skirting the law, which 192 00:11:33,520 --> 00:11:37,880 Speaker 2: certainly can't happen, there's a lot more regulations around the 193 00:11:37,920 --> 00:11:40,400 Speaker 2: types of things that one could, you know, get away 194 00:11:40,440 --> 00:11:44,360 Speaker 2: with selling, especially in terms of you know ingestibles. 195 00:11:44,520 --> 00:11:49,160 Speaker 1: Let's just there we go diplomatic as ever, No is 196 00:11:50,080 --> 00:11:53,320 Speaker 1: this guy Gottlieb. I'm laughing because I was excellent. This 197 00:11:53,360 --> 00:11:57,559 Speaker 1: guy Gottlieb. His usual means of income, whatever they may 198 00:11:57,600 --> 00:12:01,040 Speaker 1: have been, had either dissipated or they were on pause. 199 00:12:01,200 --> 00:12:04,200 Speaker 1: But as we know, bill collectors are not famous for 200 00:12:04,280 --> 00:12:07,199 Speaker 1: caring about that stuff. It's not as if your expenses 201 00:12:07,679 --> 00:12:12,600 Speaker 1: take a vacation when your income peters out. So set 202 00:12:12,600 --> 00:12:16,720 Speaker 1: the scene. One August day, our buddy Gottlieb leaves his home. 203 00:12:17,040 --> 00:12:20,560 Speaker 1: It's at one eighty eight East ninety ninth Street, and 204 00:12:20,600 --> 00:12:23,760 Speaker 1: he is armed with the clothing on his back, a 205 00:12:23,760 --> 00:12:27,760 Speaker 1: little money for the subway to big empty baskets, and 206 00:12:27,880 --> 00:12:33,319 Speaker 1: a crazy dream. He knew all the other street vendors 207 00:12:33,360 --> 00:12:36,240 Speaker 1: in the area, He was aware of the industries through 208 00:12:36,280 --> 00:12:40,720 Speaker 1: the city. He wanted to sell something other people weren't chilling, 209 00:12:41,120 --> 00:12:45,800 Speaker 1: so we headed to this area off Dykman Street. Dyck 210 00:12:46,120 --> 00:12:51,240 Speaker 1: Man Street, which at the time was woody, was forested. 211 00:12:51,800 --> 00:12:55,000 Speaker 1: This is in the Inwood section of Manhattan, and there 212 00:12:55,880 --> 00:13:01,040 Speaker 1: no Max Fellow ridiculous historians. He located a specific plant 213 00:13:01,200 --> 00:13:05,920 Speaker 1: he identified earlier. It is h it is constitutionals. In 214 00:13:05,960 --> 00:13:11,960 Speaker 1: his walks around town constitutional right. He thought this special 215 00:13:12,040 --> 00:13:17,600 Speaker 1: herb could turn his fortunes around. It is Nepotita kataria, 216 00:13:17,840 --> 00:13:19,320 Speaker 1: commonly known as. 217 00:13:19,559 --> 00:13:29,520 Speaker 2: Catnet cat nep It's true weed for cats. 218 00:13:29,920 --> 00:13:32,400 Speaker 1: Basically what is catnip anyway? 219 00:13:32,840 --> 00:13:35,680 Speaker 2: Well, it's a kind of mint, as it turns out, 220 00:13:36,280 --> 00:13:41,200 Speaker 2: also referred to sometimes there's a different varietal of it, nepita, moussini, 221 00:13:42,160 --> 00:13:44,840 Speaker 2: double ass, double I, triple I actually but two eyes 222 00:13:44,960 --> 00:13:47,880 Speaker 2: right together there at the end. Cat mint. They're the 223 00:13:47,880 --> 00:13:51,280 Speaker 2: most readily available types, with common cat net being the 224 00:13:51,320 --> 00:13:54,560 Speaker 2: ones that cats seem to dig the most. You'll often 225 00:13:54,600 --> 00:13:57,920 Speaker 2: hear cat owners describing there and I gotta read I 226 00:13:57,920 --> 00:14:00,960 Speaker 2: gotta read this as written then their nip living feelines, 227 00:14:00,960 --> 00:14:03,480 Speaker 2: because that sounds like something else. It sounds like they 228 00:14:03,520 --> 00:14:06,560 Speaker 2: just can't put down the teat. But as it is 229 00:14:06,600 --> 00:14:10,080 Speaker 2: seeming to be a bit, you know, a bit loopy 230 00:14:10,360 --> 00:14:15,040 Speaker 2: on the stuff, rolling on the ground looking all blissed 231 00:14:15,080 --> 00:14:18,400 Speaker 2: out and goofy. You know, there's of course that video 232 00:14:18,480 --> 00:14:21,240 Speaker 2: that you also reference here of David Hasselhoff lounging around 233 00:14:21,320 --> 00:14:23,320 Speaker 2: and a drunken stupor with cheeseburgers. 234 00:14:23,520 --> 00:14:26,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, he looks like he looks like a human version 235 00:14:26,360 --> 00:14:27,840 Speaker 1: of a cat in that video. 236 00:14:28,360 --> 00:14:30,120 Speaker 2: Yes, and I don't know this video, Ben, but I'm 237 00:14:30,160 --> 00:14:34,320 Speaker 2: going to get me to a YouTube platform and check 238 00:14:34,320 --> 00:14:37,520 Speaker 2: it out. Of meeting. It's okay, fair enough, but you know, 239 00:14:37,680 --> 00:14:40,320 Speaker 2: you love to see it. David always seems like he's 240 00:14:40,320 --> 00:14:42,200 Speaker 2: got his stuff together so much. It's nice to get 241 00:14:42,200 --> 00:14:46,080 Speaker 2: a little glimpse into the real David Hasselhoff. So what's 242 00:14:46,120 --> 00:14:48,920 Speaker 2: happening here is, you know, is chemical stuff going on, 243 00:14:48,960 --> 00:14:51,080 Speaker 2: and it's actually quite interesting. So if your cat's getting 244 00:14:51,160 --> 00:14:55,640 Speaker 2: high off the nip, it is actually just really getting 245 00:14:56,320 --> 00:14:57,800 Speaker 2: high on smells. 246 00:14:58,280 --> 00:15:03,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, Yeah, it's it's just super vibing with these 247 00:15:03,680 --> 00:15:07,960 Speaker 1: aromatic oils that are contained in various species of what 248 00:15:08,000 --> 00:15:13,880 Speaker 1: we call catnip. The active organic compound that is fusing 249 00:15:14,000 --> 00:15:17,680 Speaker 1: with your cat and making it go hassle off is 250 00:15:17,720 --> 00:15:22,880 Speaker 1: something called nepata alasitone. It's correct because it's kind of 251 00:15:22,880 --> 00:15:24,480 Speaker 1: like huffy in human. 252 00:15:24,280 --> 00:15:27,480 Speaker 2: It's a little bit like, uh, the ether scene in 253 00:15:27,960 --> 00:15:31,120 Speaker 2: Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas where they're yeah, yeah, 254 00:15:31,280 --> 00:15:32,360 Speaker 2: sniffing the ether and. 255 00:15:32,760 --> 00:15:34,440 Speaker 1: Charlie Day huffing painter. 256 00:15:34,800 --> 00:15:39,040 Speaker 2: Anybody does whipps, that's true, whip whipp its, that's correct. Man, 257 00:15:40,120 --> 00:15:42,760 Speaker 2: it is very, very similar to that type of bad 258 00:15:42,840 --> 00:15:47,600 Speaker 2: behavior in humans. Cats inhale the aromatic oils of the 259 00:15:47,720 --> 00:15:51,120 Speaker 2: nip because I'm never gonna stop calling it that, where 260 00:15:51,280 --> 00:15:56,840 Speaker 2: they then come into contact with receptors in the cat's noses. 261 00:15:57,240 --> 00:16:00,760 Speaker 2: These receptors are linked directly to the brain and affect 262 00:16:00,760 --> 00:16:04,760 Speaker 2: the cat's behavior and often silly willy ways. 263 00:16:05,280 --> 00:16:08,840 Speaker 1: In such silly willy ways, and I love I love 264 00:16:08,920 --> 00:16:14,560 Speaker 1: that phrase. So this is why your cat will tend 265 00:16:14,600 --> 00:16:18,840 Speaker 1: to sniff, rub lick to the stuff. It's usually going 266 00:16:18,920 --> 00:16:25,240 Speaker 1: to be sold in a powdered or a dried variety, right, 267 00:16:25,480 --> 00:16:27,800 Speaker 1: and so you sprinkle it around and then the cat 268 00:16:27,840 --> 00:16:30,600 Speaker 1: goes crazy, the crowd goes wild. But you can also 269 00:16:30,680 --> 00:16:34,320 Speaker 1: get you can also get fresh versions of these herbs. 270 00:16:34,480 --> 00:16:39,440 Speaker 1: The reason they're doing this is because doing so, agitating 271 00:16:39,760 --> 00:16:44,600 Speaker 1: the plant substance releases more of that volatile oil and 272 00:16:44,640 --> 00:16:49,760 Speaker 1: that mood modifying compound. Thanks to our friends at places 273 00:16:49,840 --> 00:16:53,880 Speaker 1: like vet West, we know the effects can be significant. 274 00:16:54,160 --> 00:16:57,800 Speaker 1: One of the big myths not every cat is affected 275 00:16:57,840 --> 00:17:02,000 Speaker 1: by catnip. Young cats seen cats, they don't dig it. 276 00:17:02,400 --> 00:17:05,240 Speaker 2: No jump in here, Yeah it's one of them, Oh no, 277 00:17:05,760 --> 00:17:09,359 Speaker 2: or oh yeah, I don't know. I guess yeah. 278 00:17:09,640 --> 00:17:13,720 Speaker 1: I mean, but the cats to your point, there, no, 279 00:17:14,359 --> 00:17:19,400 Speaker 1: the cats that are affected may seem intoxicated, well in ecstasy, drooling, 280 00:17:19,720 --> 00:17:22,560 Speaker 1: rolling around on the floor, making that weird face when 281 00:17:22,600 --> 00:17:25,680 Speaker 1: they're exposing their smell receptors. 282 00:17:25,680 --> 00:17:27,359 Speaker 2: And licking, sniffing, and chewing. 283 00:17:27,800 --> 00:17:32,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, it is believed that this is a similar reaction 284 00:17:32,720 --> 00:17:36,640 Speaker 1: cats have when they are exposed to feel good pheromones, 285 00:17:37,040 --> 00:17:39,800 Speaker 1: the kind of things that get released during courtship or 286 00:17:39,840 --> 00:17:40,879 Speaker 1: sexual activity. 287 00:17:41,080 --> 00:17:44,119 Speaker 2: I do think it's kind of funny that there doesn't 288 00:17:44,119 --> 00:17:46,720 Speaker 2: seem to be a negative stigma against the stuff, because 289 00:17:46,720 --> 00:17:49,080 Speaker 2: it does kind of seem like you're getting your cat high. 290 00:17:49,680 --> 00:17:52,560 Speaker 1: You were very much getting your cat high. You're putting 291 00:17:52,600 --> 00:17:55,800 Speaker 1: it in an altered state of mind. Some will become 292 00:17:56,280 --> 00:18:01,560 Speaker 1: super super active, a lot of excessive vocalization. That happens 293 00:18:01,560 --> 00:18:04,480 Speaker 1: with some of my cats. They might chase and hunt, 294 00:18:04,520 --> 00:18:07,720 Speaker 1: and their predatory behavior might go wild. They might just 295 00:18:07,760 --> 00:18:11,640 Speaker 1: get the zuomies, you know, And it's a short term high. 296 00:18:11,680 --> 00:18:15,440 Speaker 1: The effects for nip sensitive cats we're talking about five 297 00:18:15,520 --> 00:18:19,320 Speaker 1: to ten minutes before wearing off, which again Noel reminds 298 00:18:19,359 --> 00:18:23,120 Speaker 1: me of humans huffing. I don't know how long whippets or. 299 00:18:23,160 --> 00:18:28,240 Speaker 2: Either lasts or short lived. Most things that you insulfate 300 00:18:28,600 --> 00:18:32,120 Speaker 2: or you know inhale in that way are typically quite 301 00:18:32,160 --> 00:18:34,399 Speaker 2: short lived. They're quite intense and quite short lived. 302 00:18:35,000 --> 00:18:40,000 Speaker 1: Okay, And for the I read so, I read so 303 00:18:40,080 --> 00:18:44,280 Speaker 1: we learned from the DARE program, which all totally worked 304 00:18:44,320 --> 00:18:50,119 Speaker 1: for us. So the thing with the cat nip exposure 305 00:18:50,160 --> 00:18:54,600 Speaker 1: to felines is that the effects are not repeatable for 306 00:18:54,800 --> 00:19:01,000 Speaker 1: around one to two hours, similar to how we have red. 307 00:19:01,440 --> 00:19:06,480 Speaker 1: Certain hallucinogens are not effective if you keep taking them 308 00:19:06,760 --> 00:19:07,560 Speaker 1: over and over. 309 00:19:07,480 --> 00:19:09,480 Speaker 2: Right, right, there's diminishing returns. You got to have a 310 00:19:09,520 --> 00:19:12,320 Speaker 2: little cool down period. That's what it is. The cool 311 00:19:12,320 --> 00:19:14,359 Speaker 2: down period is what we need. But the cats in 312 00:19:14,480 --> 00:19:19,199 Speaker 2: question don't know that. They tend to recognize the smell 313 00:19:19,359 --> 00:19:24,120 Speaker 2: from earlier and chase that dragon, chase that high of catnip. 314 00:19:24,160 --> 00:19:27,200 Speaker 2: And people are already aware of this by nineteen oh nine. 315 00:19:27,520 --> 00:19:31,040 Speaker 2: Our buddy, Herman G is no exception, and he knows 316 00:19:31,119 --> 00:19:35,640 Speaker 2: exactly where the nip grows wild. He knows also wild nip. Yeah, 317 00:19:35,760 --> 00:19:39,560 Speaker 2: wild nip, baby, I'm a wild nip. He knows. 318 00:19:39,680 --> 00:19:42,479 Speaker 1: New York has a lot of wealthy cat owners. This 319 00:19:42,560 --> 00:19:46,919 Speaker 1: seems like a win win, And so, as we said, 320 00:19:47,080 --> 00:19:49,880 Speaker 1: he's out there in Manhattan. He's gathering up these two 321 00:19:50,040 --> 00:19:53,400 Speaker 1: enormous baskets a cat nip. It takes most of his day. 322 00:19:54,240 --> 00:19:56,560 Speaker 1: And he's not going to sell it there. No, he's 323 00:19:56,560 --> 00:19:58,840 Speaker 1: not going to sell it in the Broke neighborhood where 324 00:19:58,840 --> 00:19:59,320 Speaker 1: he lives. 325 00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:02,679 Speaker 2: Oh no, this is like a luxury for the Swells. 326 00:20:02,800 --> 00:20:05,520 Speaker 2: And they're feline friends, they're feline familiars. 327 00:20:06,840 --> 00:20:11,080 Speaker 1: And so Gottley takes the subway to Lenox Avenue at 328 00:20:11,200 --> 00:20:12,600 Speaker 1: one hundred and tenth Street. 329 00:20:12,720 --> 00:20:14,160 Speaker 2: Ah, yes, the Upper west Side. 330 00:20:15,080 --> 00:20:18,920 Speaker 1: Just so, he starts going house to house on Fifth Avenue, 331 00:20:19,000 --> 00:20:22,879 Speaker 1: super posh area, trying to sell catnip to well to 332 00:20:22,960 --> 00:20:26,919 Speaker 1: do families with spoiled pet cats. That's right, folks, a 333 00:20:27,040 --> 00:20:29,160 Speaker 1: door to door cat treat salesman. 334 00:20:29,920 --> 00:20:32,560 Speaker 2: Really quickly, lest any New Yorker's out there ding me 335 00:20:32,640 --> 00:20:34,600 Speaker 2: for this. I don't think we're quite in Upper west 336 00:20:34,600 --> 00:20:38,159 Speaker 2: Side territory yet, but we are uptown so and you know, 337 00:20:38,280 --> 00:20:41,560 Speaker 2: we know, we know the old Uptown girls, uh trope. 338 00:20:41,920 --> 00:20:45,080 Speaker 2: That's where the that's where the wealthier folks live uptown. 339 00:20:45,160 --> 00:20:48,840 Speaker 2: Fifth Avenue, of course, the the shopping district with all 340 00:20:48,920 --> 00:20:52,840 Speaker 2: kinds of boutiques and fancy shops. So this is indeed 341 00:20:52,840 --> 00:20:55,120 Speaker 2: what's happening he is trying to It's like going trick 342 00:20:55,160 --> 00:20:57,159 Speaker 2: or treating in the in the rich neighborhoods. It is 343 00:20:57,200 --> 00:20:58,720 Speaker 2: exactly like that. 344 00:20:58,720 --> 00:21:02,920 Speaker 1: That's well done yet, but it's a grand scheme. Unfortunately, 345 00:21:03,040 --> 00:21:06,280 Speaker 1: in Herban's case, this does not go as planned, because 346 00:21:06,800 --> 00:21:11,480 Speaker 1: he was correct in recognizing that New York City has 347 00:21:11,720 --> 00:21:15,600 Speaker 1: and had a lot of cats. But one thing he 348 00:21:15,720 --> 00:21:18,800 Speaker 1: missed is that, just like the human residents of the 349 00:21:18,840 --> 00:21:23,520 Speaker 1: Big Apple then and today, New York's feline population also 350 00:21:23,600 --> 00:21:26,720 Speaker 1: has a stark social divide. There are a lot of 351 00:21:27,280 --> 00:21:30,480 Speaker 1: There are loads of indoor cats living lives of luxury 352 00:21:30,520 --> 00:21:34,440 Speaker 1: in the city's finest brownstones, but there's so many other 353 00:21:34,600 --> 00:21:37,280 Speaker 1: cats living rough on the streets. 354 00:21:37,160 --> 00:21:39,560 Speaker 2: Strays and company. 355 00:21:40,040 --> 00:21:44,320 Speaker 1: Sure, or like in that cursed adaptation of T. S. 356 00:21:44,359 --> 00:21:48,399 Speaker 1: Eliot's Cats. Oh good lord, I forgot about it. I 357 00:21:48,800 --> 00:21:51,600 Speaker 1: watched the clip of this clip of it for this. 358 00:21:51,880 --> 00:21:54,400 Speaker 2: And apparently there's a secret cut of it where they 359 00:21:54,400 --> 00:21:58,760 Speaker 2: have buttholes. Yeah, yeah, it's it's it's an urban legend. 360 00:21:59,040 --> 00:22:00,480 Speaker 2: I do know the id. 361 00:22:00,520 --> 00:22:03,359 Speaker 3: Sure, there's a story about somebody having to go back 362 00:22:03,440 --> 00:22:06,000 Speaker 3: and like a rat shop out all of them. 363 00:22:06,080 --> 00:22:07,639 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, That's what I'm saying. So therefore there 364 00:22:07,720 --> 00:22:09,959 Speaker 2: must be some at least version of the SFX shots 365 00:22:09,960 --> 00:22:12,360 Speaker 2: that maybe one day we'll see the light of day. 366 00:22:13,200 --> 00:22:15,359 Speaker 2: I don't need to see that it was already cut. 367 00:22:15,600 --> 00:22:20,400 Speaker 1: We need to see it. I yeah, I know real 368 00:22:20,440 --> 00:22:22,080 Speaker 1: life animals that already have buds. 369 00:22:22,320 --> 00:22:23,760 Speaker 2: So that is not a good movie. 370 00:22:23,760 --> 00:22:28,160 Speaker 1: Guys, I didn't love it. Take you love the I 371 00:22:28,200 --> 00:22:30,000 Speaker 1: do love the original poetry. 372 00:22:30,400 --> 00:22:32,720 Speaker 2: The poetry is great. I wasn't even I'm a big 373 00:22:33,119 --> 00:22:35,680 Speaker 2: musical guy, but I just I didn't even get the musical. 374 00:22:35,720 --> 00:22:38,719 Speaker 2: It was such a cocaine coked out fever dream like. 375 00:22:38,800 --> 00:22:41,720 Speaker 2: It was clearly someone was quite high on their own 376 00:22:41,720 --> 00:22:45,679 Speaker 2: supply of human catnap. I think, yeah, it teaches us 377 00:22:45,760 --> 00:22:47,960 Speaker 2: by someone, I mean Andrew Floyd Webber. 378 00:22:48,359 --> 00:22:51,920 Speaker 1: It teaches us something that a lot of nineteen eighties 379 00:22:51,960 --> 00:22:55,840 Speaker 1: pop music taught us, which is sometimes drugs make you 380 00:22:55,920 --> 00:22:57,800 Speaker 1: want a yes and too much. 381 00:22:57,680 --> 00:23:01,760 Speaker 2: A little too much. And also both nostalgia and cocaine 382 00:23:01,800 --> 00:23:05,960 Speaker 2: are hell of drugs, right, And so here's what happens. 383 00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:09,280 Speaker 1: We've got this massive population of strays that got Leeb's 384 00:23:09,359 --> 00:23:11,760 Speaker 1: not really thinking about and I'm this is going on, 385 00:23:12,480 --> 00:23:16,679 Speaker 1: I'm scared in some way to exercise empathy or in 386 00:23:16,720 --> 00:23:19,560 Speaker 1: some way we could say these strays are very similar 387 00:23:19,640 --> 00:23:23,119 Speaker 1: to Herman Gottlieb because they're working their own day to 388 00:23:23,200 --> 00:23:27,280 Speaker 1: day gig economy of survival. They're out to get whatever 389 00:23:27,320 --> 00:23:30,680 Speaker 1: they could get, you know, pick up the scraps, you know, right, 390 00:23:30,800 --> 00:23:34,040 Speaker 1: and a few perfect, a few scraps, A few leaves 391 00:23:34,040 --> 00:23:39,560 Speaker 1: of catnet fell from Gottlieb's baskets, and stray felines in 392 00:23:39,600 --> 00:23:42,639 Speaker 1: the area honed in on this. They began rolling and 393 00:23:42,720 --> 00:23:45,879 Speaker 1: chewing and nipping their little hearts away, and soon after 394 00:23:46,359 --> 00:23:50,640 Speaker 1: their other friends joined them, drawn by the spell. At first, 395 00:23:50,920 --> 00:23:59,920 Speaker 1: Gottlieb is like shoe shoe or whatever music away with you, 396 00:24:00,440 --> 00:24:04,560 Speaker 1: Away with you, shoe thou. And it didn't work. He 397 00:24:04,560 --> 00:24:08,040 Speaker 1: couldn't shoe the cats away because he was walking. He 398 00:24:08,200 --> 00:24:10,560 Speaker 1: was like a walking ice cream machine. 399 00:24:10,640 --> 00:24:13,040 Speaker 2: Or here was a bit of a pied piper of cats. 400 00:24:13,600 --> 00:24:17,760 Speaker 1: That is what. That's what. Hatching cat nyc, a great 401 00:24:17,800 --> 00:24:21,199 Speaker 1: source for this story, tells us even though he was 402 00:24:21,800 --> 00:24:25,320 Speaker 1: pushing these cats away, he was probably just to be honest, 403 00:24:26,080 --> 00:24:28,919 Speaker 1: because of the time, he was probably lightly kicking some 404 00:24:29,040 --> 00:24:31,280 Speaker 1: of them, you know, or just pushing them with his 405 00:24:31,440 --> 00:24:34,720 Speaker 1: calves and his ankles, but they were still rubbing against 406 00:24:34,720 --> 00:24:35,640 Speaker 1: his legs. They were. 407 00:24:36,800 --> 00:24:39,399 Speaker 2: And then under the most sober of circumstances, you know 408 00:24:39,440 --> 00:24:41,360 Speaker 2: what happens when you push a cat away when it's 409 00:24:41,359 --> 00:24:43,080 Speaker 2: got a mind to be rubbing up on you. 410 00:24:43,640 --> 00:24:47,440 Speaker 1: Yeah. Now, now you've put it in a situation where 411 00:24:47,440 --> 00:24:50,520 Speaker 1: it's like the human doth protest too much. 412 00:24:50,640 --> 00:24:52,640 Speaker 2: Right, I mean, like god forbid, you're trying to play 413 00:24:52,640 --> 00:24:54,880 Speaker 2: a video game or something or watch a movie. They 414 00:24:54,920 --> 00:24:57,159 Speaker 2: have no that makes no never mind to them. They 415 00:24:57,200 --> 00:24:59,280 Speaker 2: will climb right up on my chest when I'm on 416 00:24:59,359 --> 00:25:02,320 Speaker 2: a bean bag and obstruct my view of my borderlands. 417 00:25:02,520 --> 00:25:05,280 Speaker 2: And no matter how many times I pushed him away, 418 00:25:05,560 --> 00:25:06,720 Speaker 2: he comes right on back. 419 00:25:07,119 --> 00:25:09,640 Speaker 1: I've got a cat doing that right now, shout out 420 00:25:09,680 --> 00:25:20,479 Speaker 1: to doctor Rankman. So in no time at all, at 421 00:25:20,640 --> 00:25:26,080 Speaker 1: least forty cats were following this guy. That's why people 422 00:25:26,119 --> 00:25:29,520 Speaker 1: start calling Gottlieb the pie Piper of catnip after this. 423 00:25:30,359 --> 00:25:34,480 Speaker 1: If you also, if you go to contemporary reports from 424 00:25:34,760 --> 00:25:38,320 Speaker 1: newspaper dot com or so on, you'll see things like 425 00:25:38,359 --> 00:25:41,400 Speaker 1: the New York Herald and the Washington Times from August 426 00:25:41,520 --> 00:25:45,520 Speaker 1: nineteenth nineteen oh nine, and they're having a lot of 427 00:25:45,640 --> 00:25:47,479 Speaker 1: fun with how they good writing? 428 00:25:48,080 --> 00:25:53,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, classic early turn of the century newspaper writing, all right, 429 00:25:53,200 --> 00:25:56,080 Speaker 2: do a voice, please, I'm gonna add think I'm gonna 430 00:25:56,119 --> 00:25:58,440 Speaker 2: just do it straight because the words are enough to 431 00:25:58,720 --> 00:26:00,600 Speaker 2: push you in. You know what I'm talking about. Of 432 00:26:00,600 --> 00:26:04,439 Speaker 2: course I'm gonna do voice. Uh. Shamefaced felines whose permanent 433 00:26:04,440 --> 00:26:07,560 Speaker 2: addresses were alleys and backyards came stealthily forth, all of 434 00:26:07,600 --> 00:26:10,240 Speaker 2: them rich and poor aristocrats from the sofa cushions near 435 00:26:10,280 --> 00:26:12,840 Speaker 2: the front windows, and then plebeians from the area ways 436 00:26:12,840 --> 00:26:15,440 Speaker 2: struggled mightily to get into the two baskets of nip. 437 00:26:15,920 --> 00:26:17,520 Speaker 2: I had to say it that way. It was actually 438 00:26:17,520 --> 00:26:20,120 Speaker 2: written cat nap, but two baskets of nip. 439 00:26:20,440 --> 00:26:23,720 Speaker 1: Come on, I've been having too much fun with usually 440 00:26:23,720 --> 00:26:27,840 Speaker 1: the word nip here. But yes, yes, and perfect voice. 441 00:26:27,840 --> 00:26:30,920 Speaker 1: Could we get applause Q from old maxequ thank you? 442 00:26:31,320 --> 00:26:31,679 Speaker 1: I'm so. 443 00:26:33,400 --> 00:26:33,840 Speaker 2: All right. 444 00:26:34,520 --> 00:26:41,240 Speaker 1: It continues, so the paper says, when mister Gottlieb saw 445 00:26:41,320 --> 00:26:44,639 Speaker 1: police Sergeant John F. Higgins on one hundred and fourteenth Street, 446 00:26:44,720 --> 00:26:47,560 Speaker 1: he cried out with joy. At last he thought someone 447 00:26:47,600 --> 00:26:51,320 Speaker 1: could help him disperse this band of felines. Sergeant Higgins 448 00:26:51,359 --> 00:26:54,840 Speaker 1: wasn't so kind, though, and he immediately arrested this cat 449 00:26:54,920 --> 00:26:58,000 Speaker 1: re pedler for causing a crowd to collect, which was 450 00:26:58,080 --> 00:26:58,960 Speaker 1: against the law. 451 00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:06,560 Speaker 2: It was against the law exactly. It goes on though, 452 00:27:06,560 --> 00:27:09,400 Speaker 2: with Gottlieb making a bit of an absurd statement. I'm 453 00:27:09,440 --> 00:27:12,640 Speaker 2: gonna say, right up right here, why don't you arrest 454 00:27:12,760 --> 00:27:16,720 Speaker 2: the cat nip that is collecting the crowd, not me? Bro. 455 00:27:17,160 --> 00:27:18,640 Speaker 2: I think you're missing the point here. 456 00:27:18,680 --> 00:27:21,919 Speaker 1: I think, yeah, yeah, yeah, I agree. But to be clear, 457 00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:25,920 Speaker 1: Herman's big hustle is not going the way he wanted 458 00:27:25,920 --> 00:27:29,119 Speaker 1: it to go. Like he hasn't sold all the cat up. 459 00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:32,200 Speaker 1: The strays are after him, and now the police are 460 00:27:32,200 --> 00:27:34,920 Speaker 1: on his case, and he's like, ah, god, why am 461 00:27:34,960 --> 00:27:39,719 Speaker 1: I in a what's that? What's that Adam Sandler film 462 00:27:39,840 --> 00:27:40,680 Speaker 1: about jewelry? 463 00:27:41,560 --> 00:27:41,720 Speaker 2: Oh? 464 00:27:41,800 --> 00:27:45,800 Speaker 1: Oh, uncut gems? Yeah, he's in like an uncut gem situation. 465 00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:49,840 Speaker 1: He's going, why is this getting worse? Sergeant Higgins again 466 00:27:49,920 --> 00:27:54,000 Speaker 1: per the papers, replied, come on before the cats from 467 00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:57,080 Speaker 1: the Bronx and Jersey get here, and they He takes 468 00:27:57,119 --> 00:27:59,840 Speaker 1: Gottlieb to the police house on East one hundred and 469 00:27:59,840 --> 00:28:05,080 Speaker 1: four Street. Cats are still following these guys aggressively, and 470 00:28:05,119 --> 00:28:11,520 Speaker 1: they follow them inside the station house and Sergeant Higgins says, Okay, 471 00:28:11,880 --> 00:28:14,000 Speaker 1: I've got to go to my superior, a guy named 472 00:28:14,040 --> 00:28:18,240 Speaker 1: Lieutenant Laski. He reports the arrest. He's like, you know, 473 00:28:18,320 --> 00:28:22,679 Speaker 1: Lieutenant or Moss, you're not gonna believe this one. You 474 00:28:22,720 --> 00:28:25,040 Speaker 1: can look around the police station. You see how they're 475 00:28:25,080 --> 00:28:30,040 Speaker 1: like more cats than usual. It's this dude's fault. And 476 00:28:30,080 --> 00:28:35,199 Speaker 1: then Lieutenant Laski says, you know, we can't hold this man. 477 00:28:35,480 --> 00:28:38,440 Speaker 1: The law says a man must not cause a crowd 478 00:28:38,480 --> 00:28:43,120 Speaker 1: of people to collect. The law doesn't say anything about cats, 479 00:28:43,520 --> 00:28:46,120 Speaker 1: and Higgins is also having a bad day at this point. 480 00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:47,120 Speaker 2: He's kind of pissed. 481 00:28:47,400 --> 00:28:50,560 Speaker 1: He says, the law doesn't say anything about people, Sir. 482 00:28:50,920 --> 00:28:54,160 Speaker 1: It says a crowd. A crowd of cats is certainly 483 00:28:54,240 --> 00:28:58,240 Speaker 1: a crowd. So they start arguing over how to interpret 484 00:28:58,400 --> 00:29:02,160 Speaker 1: the laws, and more and more cats are coming into 485 00:29:02,240 --> 00:29:05,560 Speaker 1: the station because they're following the scent of those cat 486 00:29:05,680 --> 00:29:12,160 Speaker 1: nip baskets. The police do have two feline officers of 487 00:29:12,200 --> 00:29:15,400 Speaker 1: their own. One is asleep at the wheel and the other, 488 00:29:15,440 --> 00:29:20,520 Speaker 1: one named Pete, starts fighting off the intruding kit. 489 00:29:20,560 --> 00:29:22,520 Speaker 2: Wait police. Cat's ben that's absurd. 490 00:29:22,800 --> 00:29:25,560 Speaker 1: Police cats, Well, a lot of things are absurd. 491 00:29:25,840 --> 00:29:28,440 Speaker 2: That's true, man, that's true. The human police did join 492 00:29:28,520 --> 00:29:33,240 Speaker 2: Pete and eventually driving out the mob of nip crazed kitties. 493 00:29:34,080 --> 00:29:37,280 Speaker 2: Authorities put Godleb and his baskets into a paddy wagon. 494 00:29:37,360 --> 00:29:39,320 Speaker 2: Then they escorted him back to his home at one 495 00:29:39,360 --> 00:29:41,440 Speaker 2: eighty eight eighth ninety ninth Street. I think it's okay, 496 00:29:41,520 --> 00:29:44,400 Speaker 2: we're not doing him because he's not alive anymore. And 497 00:29:44,440 --> 00:29:48,840 Speaker 2: then of course the cats hotly pursued. Oh yeah, oh yeah. 498 00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:51,320 Speaker 1: They were no match for the speed of the wagon, 499 00:29:51,560 --> 00:29:52,400 Speaker 1: most of them. 500 00:29:52,520 --> 00:29:57,560 Speaker 2: This is very Napoleon Carriage, Jurassic Park bunny mob coated, 501 00:29:57,720 --> 00:29:58,120 Speaker 2: is it not. 502 00:29:58,960 --> 00:30:02,719 Speaker 1: Cat nip Bryan. So the thing we have to remember 503 00:30:02,760 --> 00:30:06,760 Speaker 1: to just logistically, is that as the wagon is moving 504 00:30:06,880 --> 00:30:10,920 Speaker 1: through town, it's encountering other stray cats who catch the 505 00:30:10,960 --> 00:30:13,680 Speaker 1: smell of the nip. Right they want to chase that 506 00:30:13,760 --> 00:30:17,640 Speaker 1: herbal dragon. So Gottlieb finally gets back to his place. 507 00:30:17,840 --> 00:30:20,480 Speaker 1: As far as we can tell, he did not himself 508 00:30:20,560 --> 00:30:25,880 Speaker 1: own a cat. There was one single old Tom from 509 00:30:25,880 --> 00:30:30,080 Speaker 1: across town, still in dogged pursuit. According to the story, 510 00:30:30,280 --> 00:30:34,320 Speaker 1: catted pursuit cated pursuit even better. According to the story, 511 00:30:34,960 --> 00:30:38,840 Speaker 1: herman g is running to his front door, or is 512 00:30:38,960 --> 00:30:41,800 Speaker 1: running to the door of his place, and he turns 513 00:30:41,840 --> 00:30:44,920 Speaker 1: around because he sees this one last cat after him, 514 00:30:45,200 --> 00:30:48,320 Speaker 1: and he's mid run. He throws a handful of cat 515 00:30:48,440 --> 00:30:54,520 Speaker 1: nip leaves Sandea exactly, and he yells, he apparently yells, 516 00:30:54,800 --> 00:30:57,760 Speaker 1: don't tell your relatives or your friends, and then he 517 00:30:57,840 --> 00:31:01,640 Speaker 1: slams the door shut. This is the ridiculous history of 518 00:31:01,680 --> 00:31:05,280 Speaker 1: the nineteen o nine cat nip riot. I mean, is 519 00:31:05,320 --> 00:31:07,640 Speaker 1: that not similar to the Napoleon Rabbit? 520 00:31:08,800 --> 00:31:11,440 Speaker 2: Hugely so? And if anyone needs reminding you, you should 521 00:31:11,480 --> 00:31:13,280 Speaker 2: go back and check out the episode, if only to 522 00:31:13,280 --> 00:31:15,200 Speaker 2: see what we were like in the earliest days. I 523 00:31:15,200 --> 00:31:16,960 Speaker 2: actually stand behind that one. I think it was pretty 524 00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:21,920 Speaker 2: damn good. But yeah, it was about Napoleon, of course, 525 00:31:21,960 --> 00:31:28,080 Speaker 2: in his opulence, basically demanding a sort of staged rabbit hunt, 526 00:31:28,680 --> 00:31:31,240 Speaker 2: and of course nobody knew about domestications, so they just 527 00:31:31,280 --> 00:31:33,640 Speaker 2: like had all of these kind of wild rabbits who 528 00:31:33,640 --> 00:31:37,240 Speaker 2: did not behave as expected, and they ultimately created like 529 00:31:37,280 --> 00:31:39,440 Speaker 2: that movie Critters, you know, where they become a giant 530 00:31:39,480 --> 00:31:42,680 Speaker 2: ball of critters. It was very similar to that, Ben, 531 00:31:42,760 --> 00:31:45,200 Speaker 2: I want to try something out on you in Maxwell quick. 532 00:31:45,200 --> 00:31:46,320 Speaker 1: Sure, let's go for it. 533 00:31:46,440 --> 00:31:50,440 Speaker 2: The idea of being surprised by someone while in the bathroom, 534 00:31:51,440 --> 00:31:54,920 Speaker 2: calling or doing that, you either are Jurassic parked or 535 00:31:54,960 --> 00:31:57,960 Speaker 2: you Jurassic park somebody, like that scene when the lawyer 536 00:31:58,120 --> 00:32:00,760 Speaker 2: you know is in the toilet and gets a t rext. 537 00:32:01,880 --> 00:32:03,680 Speaker 2: Can we make this happen? Man? Can we make can 538 00:32:03,680 --> 00:32:04,960 Speaker 2: we make Jurassic parks happen? 539 00:32:05,320 --> 00:32:06,680 Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, I got your six. 540 00:32:06,840 --> 00:32:08,120 Speaker 2: Okay, thanks, buddy, I appreciate it. 541 00:32:08,160 --> 00:32:10,160 Speaker 1: That so to be clear for all of us listening, 542 00:32:10,160 --> 00:32:13,600 Speaker 1: all right, if you are surprised while you're in the restroom, 543 00:32:13,720 --> 00:32:19,800 Speaker 1: you got Jurassic parked. If you surprise someone AFO, then 544 00:32:19,880 --> 00:32:24,400 Speaker 1: you are Jurassic parking them. Awesome, Yeah, got it. Let's 545 00:32:24,440 --> 00:32:28,160 Speaker 1: mint it. That's up there with straight seahorse teeth. Let's 546 00:32:28,280 --> 00:32:29,000 Speaker 1: let's get that now. 547 00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:32,280 Speaker 2: Ideally, either of these actions would be completely by mistake. 548 00:32:32,360 --> 00:32:34,200 Speaker 2: You don't want to do this to somebody on purpose. 549 00:32:34,280 --> 00:32:37,480 Speaker 2: That would be I have problematic problem. 550 00:32:38,000 --> 00:32:41,160 Speaker 1: I've had to do it before in emergency situations, and 551 00:32:41,360 --> 00:32:43,640 Speaker 1: I didn't really like it. I've been on both sides 552 00:32:43,680 --> 00:32:47,440 Speaker 1: of the stall or the latrine there, but it is 553 00:32:47,800 --> 00:32:53,200 Speaker 1: a super awkward moment when you know somebody is pooping, 554 00:32:53,320 --> 00:32:57,080 Speaker 1: which is a very vulnerable position, and because of an emergency, 555 00:32:57,520 --> 00:33:02,200 Speaker 1: you have to be like, sorry, man, bad time, but 556 00:33:02,440 --> 00:33:06,360 Speaker 1: the building's on fire. So not saying now, but finish 557 00:33:06,440 --> 00:33:08,400 Speaker 1: up when you can. Just get off Reddit. 558 00:33:08,760 --> 00:33:10,480 Speaker 2: Please, we want. 559 00:33:10,320 --> 00:33:14,000 Speaker 1: You to live. We want you to live. We're gonna 560 00:33:14,080 --> 00:33:16,800 Speaker 1: keep this one short. This war is self contained, one 561 00:33:16,880 --> 00:33:20,360 Speaker 1: part with big, big thanks to again our listener who 562 00:33:20,400 --> 00:33:25,800 Speaker 1: inspired this, Stacey r Over on our Facebook page, Ridiculous Historians. 563 00:33:25,840 --> 00:33:28,480 Speaker 1: Now before we do our autros, Max, I see you 564 00:33:28,840 --> 00:33:30,960 Speaker 1: pop back in the chat. What's up man? 565 00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:35,480 Speaker 3: Oh, just confirming that I am down with the term 566 00:33:35,560 --> 00:33:40,240 Speaker 3: Jurassic parking and also facusar facusar. 567 00:33:39,800 --> 00:33:41,480 Speaker 2: Is another one we're trying to get going. What's that 568 00:33:42,360 --> 00:33:42,920 Speaker 2: remind me? 569 00:33:44,320 --> 00:33:49,960 Speaker 4: Falcasar falcasar, falconsar like falcon falcon and okay, maybe what 570 00:33:50,640 --> 00:33:52,640 Speaker 4: does the aportmanteau help me out? I want to wait 571 00:33:52,680 --> 00:33:55,480 Speaker 4: a part of this no one knows, no one knows 572 00:33:55,800 --> 00:33:58,000 Speaker 4: you you also, you know, I know where we're wrapping 573 00:33:58,040 --> 00:33:59,480 Speaker 4: it up, and I'm totally down with that. But you 574 00:33:59,600 --> 00:34:04,880 Speaker 4: did find a handful of really, really fun other kind 575 00:34:04,920 --> 00:34:08,160 Speaker 4: of unusual riots from a piece over a mental flaws. 576 00:34:08,280 --> 00:34:10,560 Speaker 4: I do propose perhaps that maybe we save those for 577 00:34:10,920 --> 00:34:14,560 Speaker 4: one of our kind of leftovers episodes. 578 00:34:15,200 --> 00:34:21,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, agreed fully, Let's let's keep those other historically weird 579 00:34:21,760 --> 00:34:26,640 Speaker 1: riots or ridiculous riots for a story in the future. 580 00:34:26,760 --> 00:34:30,000 Speaker 1: But Folks, as Nol was saying, spoiler, it turns out 581 00:34:30,080 --> 00:34:35,279 Speaker 1: that history is chock full of ridiculous riots. This one 582 00:34:35,640 --> 00:34:38,560 Speaker 1: was with kats, the other one was with bunnies. There 583 00:34:38,600 --> 00:34:41,879 Speaker 1: are so many others out there. Thank you so much 584 00:34:42,000 --> 00:34:43,520 Speaker 1: for tuning in, Folks. 585 00:34:43,880 --> 00:34:45,439 Speaker 2: Don't forget about the zootsuit riot. 586 00:34:45,719 --> 00:34:49,880 Speaker 1: Don't forget never never forget about the suit suit riot? 587 00:34:50,239 --> 00:34:53,600 Speaker 1: Why does that sound somewhat offensive? Big thanks to our 588 00:34:53,680 --> 00:34:57,640 Speaker 1: super producer mister Max Williams. Big thanks to Alex Williams' 589 00:34:57,760 --> 00:34:59,920 Speaker 1: biological brother who composed. 590 00:34:59,560 --> 00:35:03,799 Speaker 2: This Yes, and our brother in arms and in song. 591 00:35:04,480 --> 00:35:06,759 Speaker 2: Huge thanks to Chris Frosciotis and Eves Jeff cos Here 592 00:35:06,800 --> 00:35:11,680 Speaker 2: in Spirit, Jonathan Strickland, the quiz Stir and A. Jbahama 593 00:35:11,760 --> 00:35:13,080 Speaker 2: Jacobs the Puzzler. 594 00:35:13,120 --> 00:35:17,320 Speaker 1: Doctor Rachel Big Spinach, Lance the Rude Dudes a ridiculous crime. 595 00:35:17,400 --> 00:35:20,120 Speaker 1: If you dig us, you'll love them I've been our 596 00:35:20,200 --> 00:35:24,879 Speaker 1: research associate for this episode, and big, big thanks Nol, 597 00:35:25,080 --> 00:35:27,560 Speaker 1: not just to you, you know, you're like one of 598 00:35:27,640 --> 00:35:30,680 Speaker 1: my main guys, but also big thanks to all the 599 00:35:30,800 --> 00:35:34,360 Speaker 1: cats in our lives who have yet to eat our eyes. 600 00:35:34,719 --> 00:35:37,880 Speaker 2: Oh Ben, that's really great rhyme and a really lovely sentiment. 601 00:35:38,160 --> 00:35:47,799 Speaker 2: Let's see you next time, folks. 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