1 00:00:07,880 --> 00:00:10,240 Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome to Savor production of I Heart Radio. 2 00:00:10,280 --> 00:00:12,959 Speaker 1: I'm Annie Reese and I'm Lauren Vogelbaum, and today we're 3 00:00:12,960 --> 00:00:16,799 Speaker 1: talking about Rice Serrooni. It's just immediately funny to me. 4 00:00:17,000 --> 00:00:20,759 Speaker 1: Rice Serrooni. It's a name, funny name, it's it's got 5 00:00:20,800 --> 00:00:25,120 Speaker 1: a lot of it's got a lot it does. It's 6 00:00:25,200 --> 00:00:31,400 Speaker 1: both it's evocative and very straight to the point. It 7 00:00:31,640 --> 00:00:34,760 Speaker 1: is what it is. Oh, I have a new thing. 8 00:00:35,280 --> 00:00:37,760 Speaker 1: My friends hate it, but I'll tell all of you anyway. 9 00:00:37,920 --> 00:00:40,720 Speaker 1: I'm trying to get it catch on. It's called Uba 10 00:00:41,520 --> 00:00:48,080 Speaker 1: which is it is what it is? Mm hmm okay. 11 00:00:48,280 --> 00:00:51,000 Speaker 1: I also just randomly say Abby Abby Abbey now, but 12 00:00:51,120 --> 00:00:55,240 Speaker 1: I'm not. I'm totally doing well in Quarantine. This is 13 00:00:55,280 --> 00:00:57,640 Speaker 1: a remnant of the Last of Us two plus playing 14 00:00:57,640 --> 00:01:00,680 Speaker 1: a lot of betrayal at the House off from the Hill. 15 00:01:01,480 --> 00:01:03,120 Speaker 1: They came together because you have to come up with 16 00:01:03,120 --> 00:01:06,039 Speaker 1: the chant in that game, and uh, you know, we 17 00:01:06,080 --> 00:01:08,600 Speaker 1: decided on Abby, Abby Abbey, and I find it's really 18 00:01:08,640 --> 00:01:13,640 Speaker 1: satisfying to say Abby Abby Abbey out there. Yeah see, 19 00:01:13,959 --> 00:01:20,080 Speaker 1: but you gotta you gotta mutterate like Abby Abby Abby. Anyway, 20 00:01:20,120 --> 00:01:24,320 Speaker 1: I'm doing totally well. Um and thanks to Christie for 21 00:01:24,400 --> 00:01:29,760 Speaker 1: the suggestion. Christie also suggested the Buffy the Vampire Slayer food. Yeah, 22 00:01:29,920 --> 00:01:31,920 Speaker 1: lots of good suggestions coming in from listeners. We do 23 00:01:31,959 --> 00:01:36,200 Speaker 1: have what we have this huge list, gigantic. Yeah, we're 24 00:01:36,240 --> 00:01:38,720 Speaker 1: not running out of topics ever, So y'all are stuck 25 00:01:38,760 --> 00:01:43,280 Speaker 1: with us. Um, yes, yes, I'm sure that is inspires 26 00:01:43,319 --> 00:01:47,240 Speaker 1: happiness and nothing else. Uh, but yeah, please keep him coming. 27 00:01:47,280 --> 00:01:51,280 Speaker 1: We do take the suggestions you send into account and 28 00:01:51,280 --> 00:01:53,240 Speaker 1: they often lead to I don't know that I ever 29 00:01:53,280 --> 00:01:55,800 Speaker 1: would have thought about Rice SERRONI to be honest, and 30 00:01:55,920 --> 00:01:58,600 Speaker 1: story behind it is great. It is Oh gosh, it's 31 00:01:58,600 --> 00:02:00,960 Speaker 1: so good. Um. I do have to admit that that 32 00:02:01,160 --> 00:02:07,680 Speaker 1: sometimes I I say yes to brand related episodes, like 33 00:02:08,120 --> 00:02:16,919 Speaker 1: primarily because I really enjoy listing off flavors. Oh okay, 34 00:02:17,080 --> 00:02:20,240 Speaker 1: It's just there's something really fun and funny about it 35 00:02:20,280 --> 00:02:22,120 Speaker 1: to me, Like when you get like a bunch of 36 00:02:22,160 --> 00:02:24,840 Speaker 1: flavors just right in a row, they start to really 37 00:02:24,880 --> 00:02:28,480 Speaker 1: sound I don't just wild, just real weird, and just 38 00:02:28,600 --> 00:02:31,000 Speaker 1: I start doubting my sanity because I'm like, how many 39 00:02:31,000 --> 00:02:34,920 Speaker 1: different types of chicken can you really have a flavor for? Like? 40 00:02:34,960 --> 00:02:36,639 Speaker 1: How many in the in the cool aid episode, like 41 00:02:36,639 --> 00:02:38,280 Speaker 1: how many types of Like how many times am I 42 00:02:38,280 --> 00:02:40,440 Speaker 1: going to say Barry in this list? It was a lot, 43 00:02:41,200 --> 00:02:44,359 Speaker 1: it was. I mean, there's just something inspiring about the 44 00:02:44,440 --> 00:02:51,240 Speaker 1: level of innovation. Um, flavor innovation never stops. We've been 45 00:02:51,280 --> 00:02:53,600 Speaker 1: seeing a lot of it with Reese's coming out with 46 00:02:53,639 --> 00:02:59,200 Speaker 1: all these new flavors. Deritos. Didn't Derito's have some strange 47 00:02:59,240 --> 00:03:03,680 Speaker 1: new flavors change to me? Yeah? Usually that's true. Um, 48 00:03:03,720 --> 00:03:07,839 Speaker 1: when it comes to Rice Seroni, I I don't know 49 00:03:08,080 --> 00:03:10,000 Speaker 1: much about it, Like, I don't really have a memory 50 00:03:10,000 --> 00:03:12,560 Speaker 1: attached to it. I think every now and then I 51 00:03:12,560 --> 00:03:16,800 Speaker 1: get a massive craving, usually pretty random for something like it. 52 00:03:16,840 --> 00:03:20,040 Speaker 1: I can't even say specifically if it's Rice Seroni. Especially 53 00:03:20,040 --> 00:03:21,640 Speaker 1: in college, I would get these like I just want 54 00:03:21,720 --> 00:03:26,280 Speaker 1: this kind of salty starchy. Yeah. That that's my main 55 00:03:27,320 --> 00:03:30,800 Speaker 1: experience with the brand was being in college and UM 56 00:03:30,919 --> 00:03:34,720 Speaker 1: and having no idea how to cook for myself and 57 00:03:34,840 --> 00:03:38,320 Speaker 1: so getting getting something like this and probably not actually 58 00:03:38,320 --> 00:03:41,360 Speaker 1: adding anything to it, just eating it straight out of 59 00:03:41,360 --> 00:03:45,400 Speaker 1: the right mhm. Actually probably literally straight out of the pan. 60 00:03:45,440 --> 00:03:46,720 Speaker 1: I was like, do I put it in Did I 61 00:03:46,720 --> 00:03:48,520 Speaker 1: put it in the bow first? Probably? Not? Probably not 62 00:03:49,000 --> 00:03:51,360 Speaker 1: who knows. College Lauren was up to a lot of 63 00:03:51,640 --> 00:03:55,080 Speaker 1: a lot of questions and yeah, that's a nicer way 64 00:03:55,120 --> 00:04:00,840 Speaker 1: of putting it. Shenanigan's occasionally, um, meet me in my 65 00:04:01,000 --> 00:04:04,960 Speaker 1: roommates will be like, what we want is rice Serroney. 66 00:04:05,080 --> 00:04:08,080 Speaker 1: Let's make our own, um and and kind of making 67 00:04:08,080 --> 00:04:14,000 Speaker 1: a Rice Serrooney inspired dish. Oh okay, yeah, I mean 68 00:04:14,680 --> 00:04:18,760 Speaker 1: it's a very comforting and satisfying meal. It is. It's 69 00:04:18,880 --> 00:04:24,679 Speaker 1: it's salty and delicious. There's carbs. Everybody loves carbs. Well, 70 00:04:25,360 --> 00:04:32,000 Speaker 1: most everybody loves carbs. All right, let's get to our question. 71 00:04:33,200 --> 00:04:41,720 Speaker 1: Rice Serony what is it? Well, Rice Serony is a 72 00:04:41,760 --> 00:04:46,640 Speaker 1: brand of relatively inexpensive, dry, shelf stable grains packaged with 73 00:04:46,720 --> 00:04:49,280 Speaker 1: a with a packet of powdered seasonings and a little 74 00:04:49,320 --> 00:04:51,920 Speaker 1: bits of dried veg usually um. It intended to be 75 00:04:52,000 --> 00:04:54,760 Speaker 1: cooked up quickly and easily by the consumer as a 76 00:04:54,800 --> 00:04:58,680 Speaker 1: side dish or like the base of a main dish. Um. 77 00:04:58,720 --> 00:05:00,680 Speaker 1: It's like a It's like a little bit like instant ramen, 78 00:05:01,000 --> 00:05:04,719 Speaker 1: except generally the expectation is that you will be adding 79 00:05:04,800 --> 00:05:10,600 Speaker 1: things to make it a meal. Unlike College Lauren, I 80 00:05:10,640 --> 00:05:13,360 Speaker 1: didn't know that Okay, yeah, Wow, we'll see college Andy 81 00:05:13,360 --> 00:05:16,520 Speaker 1: didn't didn't do that either. I don't think. Hey, you know, 82 00:05:16,560 --> 00:05:18,880 Speaker 1: I'm like, hey, there's like dried onion right here in 83 00:05:18,920 --> 00:05:21,080 Speaker 1: the box. What else am I doing? Likewise, I mean, 84 00:05:21,120 --> 00:05:25,560 Speaker 1: what else do you need? Uh? Yeah? The traditional grain 85 00:05:25,640 --> 00:05:28,039 Speaker 1: blend in in a box of rice serrone is a 86 00:05:28,080 --> 00:05:31,080 Speaker 1: mix of white rice with pieces of a skinny wheat 87 00:05:31,120 --> 00:05:34,560 Speaker 1: pasta like a vermicelli, broken to about the same length 88 00:05:34,560 --> 00:05:36,960 Speaker 1: of the rice, maybe a smidge longer. Um. Some of 89 00:05:36,960 --> 00:05:39,800 Speaker 1: the products they may include just rice, though some include 90 00:05:39,920 --> 00:05:42,880 Speaker 1: orzo pasta, which is a sort of a small, pointed, 91 00:05:42,880 --> 00:05:46,520 Speaker 1: oval shaped pasta. A couple include wild rice. Rice SERRONI 92 00:05:46,640 --> 00:05:49,919 Speaker 1: comes in twenty two flavors at the moment um basics 93 00:05:49,960 --> 00:05:51,760 Speaker 1: like oh and I get to do the list basics 94 00:05:51,839 --> 00:05:57,000 Speaker 1: like chicken beef, urban butter, long grain and wild rice 95 00:05:57,040 --> 00:06:00,760 Speaker 1: and cilantro lime. Riffs on the above like chicken and garlic, 96 00:06:00,839 --> 00:06:04,760 Speaker 1: chicken and broccoli and buffalo chicken, Spanish rice and Mexican rice. 97 00:06:04,960 --> 00:06:09,960 Speaker 1: Stir fried rice with Asian seasonings including leak a creamy 98 00:06:09,960 --> 00:06:13,359 Speaker 1: flavors like cheddar, broccoli, country cheddar, creamy for cheese, and 99 00:06:13,400 --> 00:06:17,360 Speaker 1: palapeno cheddar um and the original that started at all 100 00:06:17,680 --> 00:06:21,480 Speaker 1: rice pull off uh, which for the record, is seasoned 101 00:06:21,520 --> 00:06:25,719 Speaker 1: with onions, chicken, garlic, and spices which the Internet seems 102 00:06:25,720 --> 00:06:29,920 Speaker 1: to think are things like thyme and parsley, the mysterious 103 00:06:29,960 --> 00:06:35,120 Speaker 1: spices m hm uh. The instructions for these things usually 104 00:06:35,160 --> 00:06:37,919 Speaker 1: call for you to take this first step that I 105 00:06:37,960 --> 00:06:41,159 Speaker 1: have apparently been missing out on in rice making for 106 00:06:41,279 --> 00:06:43,320 Speaker 1: like my whole life, because I've pretty much always made 107 00:06:43,400 --> 00:06:45,800 Speaker 1: rice and rice cookers. Um. And that first step is 108 00:06:45,839 --> 00:06:48,120 Speaker 1: that you heat a butter or other cooking oil in 109 00:06:48,160 --> 00:06:52,520 Speaker 1: a pan and then toast the rice or in this 110 00:06:52,560 --> 00:06:55,920 Speaker 1: case like rice and pasta until it's until it's golden brown, 111 00:06:56,440 --> 00:07:00,280 Speaker 1: and then you add the water in seasonings. It's so good. 112 00:07:00,279 --> 00:07:04,800 Speaker 1: I have been a fool. I never did that either, 113 00:07:04,839 --> 00:07:06,840 Speaker 1: but my mom did, and it was always hers was 114 00:07:06,880 --> 00:07:10,600 Speaker 1: always better than mine. Oh my heck. It does depend 115 00:07:10,640 --> 00:07:12,360 Speaker 1: on what kind of rice thing you're going for. This 116 00:07:12,480 --> 00:07:16,000 Speaker 1: kind of treatment does tend to help help the rice 117 00:07:16,080 --> 00:07:19,960 Speaker 1: grains be more separate, more like fluffy as opposed to 118 00:07:20,120 --> 00:07:22,920 Speaker 1: sticky or mushy. Um. And and those are two two 119 00:07:22,960 --> 00:07:26,040 Speaker 1: different things, so you could be going for at any rate. 120 00:07:26,280 --> 00:07:29,080 Speaker 1: Um that o g rice pull off is based on 121 00:07:29,560 --> 00:07:32,840 Speaker 1: Armenian pull off recipes, whearing you you brown the grains 122 00:07:32,880 --> 00:07:35,720 Speaker 1: and then cook with broth and other seasonings and addens. 123 00:07:36,360 --> 00:07:38,480 Speaker 1: Pull Off itself is a word that came to English 124 00:07:38,480 --> 00:07:41,880 Speaker 1: through Um, the Turkish palave um. It's a dish common 125 00:07:42,200 --> 00:07:45,760 Speaker 1: in Muslim influenced cuisines from the Middle East through Western 126 00:07:45,840 --> 00:07:49,160 Speaker 1: and Central and South Asia and uh and denotes yeah 127 00:07:49,200 --> 00:07:51,000 Speaker 1: like a like a rice and maybe other grain stuff 128 00:07:51,040 --> 00:07:55,280 Speaker 1: dish that is fluffy, not mushy um with distinctly separated 129 00:07:55,320 --> 00:08:00,440 Speaker 1: grains and its seasoned and includes stuff um from meat 130 00:08:00,480 --> 00:08:03,920 Speaker 1: to veg to nuts, to beans to fruit. The brand 131 00:08:04,000 --> 00:08:07,880 Speaker 1: also produces pasta roni, where in the grains provided are 132 00:08:07,920 --> 00:08:10,640 Speaker 1: are pastas in a number of shapes. Pasta Roni comes 133 00:08:10,680 --> 00:08:14,119 Speaker 1: in fifteen flavors butter and garlic, garlic and olive oil, 134 00:08:14,280 --> 00:08:18,280 Speaker 1: olive oil and Italian herb, butter and herb, italiano angel 135 00:08:18,320 --> 00:08:23,360 Speaker 1: hair with herbs, parmesan, cheese, white cheddar, halapeno, cheddar, four cheese, alfredo, 136 00:08:23,560 --> 00:08:27,120 Speaker 1: white cheddar, white cheddar, and broccoli, chicken and broccoli, bofalo, chicken, 137 00:08:27,640 --> 00:08:32,480 Speaker 1: and just chicken, which to me, after all of the 138 00:08:32,480 --> 00:08:36,120 Speaker 1: rest of those sounds a little bit sinister. You think 139 00:08:36,480 --> 00:08:41,000 Speaker 1: the just chicken something going on there? Right? Not too sure? 140 00:08:42,679 --> 00:08:47,360 Speaker 1: M hmm, I like where your head's at, always paranoid. 141 00:08:47,640 --> 00:08:51,720 Speaker 1: What do is only chicken have to hide? Or is 142 00:08:51,880 --> 00:08:53,520 Speaker 1: or does that? Or do all the other flavors have 143 00:08:53,600 --> 00:08:55,880 Speaker 1: something to hide? Does that why they're gussying themselves up 144 00:08:55,920 --> 00:09:03,120 Speaker 1: like that? Oh? Interesting? Interesting anyway? Maybe maybe I've been 145 00:09:03,120 --> 00:09:06,960 Speaker 1: playing too much D and D watching too much Supernatural. 146 00:09:08,360 --> 00:09:15,960 Speaker 1: Never did not have both of those things, uh um. Anyway. Yeah, 147 00:09:16,040 --> 00:09:19,200 Speaker 1: So the common packaging here is a multi serving box, 148 00:09:19,360 --> 00:09:22,840 Speaker 1: but there are also uh six flavors available in single 149 00:09:22,880 --> 00:09:28,120 Speaker 1: serving microwavable cups, including the fifteen pasta Roni flavor, Parmesan 150 00:09:28,400 --> 00:09:34,280 Speaker 1: and romano. It's just so hard for me. I hear 151 00:09:34,360 --> 00:09:37,440 Speaker 1: pasta rone and I immediately kind of want to like 152 00:09:37,480 --> 00:09:40,440 Speaker 1: I smile and kind of want to laugh, and then 153 00:09:40,480 --> 00:09:46,360 Speaker 1: it's pan and romano. This is an interesting juxtaposition because 154 00:09:46,400 --> 00:09:48,920 Speaker 1: it does sound like something that you would like ask 155 00:09:48,960 --> 00:09:51,800 Speaker 1: a toddler to say to get to smile on camera, 156 00:09:52,240 --> 00:09:57,800 Speaker 1: say pasta rownie. Like now, I'm kind of sad that 157 00:09:58,080 --> 00:10:00,960 Speaker 1: I didn't earn the nickname Reeserroni at in my life 158 00:10:02,800 --> 00:10:08,000 Speaker 1: I'm someone who's collected many nicknames, but I never Norisa 159 00:10:08,080 --> 00:10:10,480 Speaker 1: Roney for me. I guess there's still times. Yeah, it's 160 00:10:10,600 --> 00:10:14,959 Speaker 1: too late, it's never okay, Okay, So I can't I 161 00:10:15,080 --> 00:10:21,840 Speaker 1: can't force this. That's the curse of the nickname. All right. Yeah, 162 00:10:22,120 --> 00:10:25,599 Speaker 1: well it's out there. I'll see what I can do 163 00:10:26,000 --> 00:10:34,720 Speaker 1: to to delicately engineer it so that the opportunity presents itself. Yeah, 164 00:10:35,080 --> 00:10:38,840 Speaker 1: just subtly, you know, like pass it on to someone else, 165 00:10:39,320 --> 00:10:40,839 Speaker 1: They pass it on to someone else, and then it 166 00:10:40,920 --> 00:10:43,880 Speaker 1: comes up at one of our like happy hours. Yeah. Yeah, 167 00:10:44,320 --> 00:10:48,800 Speaker 1: it's the only way I appreciate that thought you're putting 168 00:10:48,800 --> 00:10:51,040 Speaker 1: into this. I really, I really am. Like I'm like 169 00:10:51,200 --> 00:10:56,640 Speaker 1: full on, like like head tilt obvious thought bubble like yeah, okay, okay, okay, alright, 170 00:10:56,640 --> 00:11:01,200 Speaker 1: I'm coming back. I'm coming back. Um. I will say 171 00:11:01,280 --> 00:11:03,520 Speaker 1: that that all of the all of the packaging um 172 00:11:03,840 --> 00:11:07,800 Speaker 1: of Rice Serroney and these other sub brands, UM, including 173 00:11:07,840 --> 00:11:12,200 Speaker 1: those microwave cups, includes recipes or or ideas to make 174 00:11:12,280 --> 00:11:16,959 Speaker 1: it a meal. UM, as if to say, hey, college Lauren, 175 00:11:17,080 --> 00:11:19,800 Speaker 1: probably don't just eat salty carbs with the smattering of 176 00:11:19,960 --> 00:11:22,920 Speaker 1: dehydrated herbs. And vegetables for dinner. Probably don't do that. 177 00:11:24,200 --> 00:11:30,600 Speaker 1: They are looking out for you, honestly. Well, okay, good segue. 178 00:11:31,040 --> 00:11:35,240 Speaker 1: What about the nutrition. Uh, these products contain a lot 179 00:11:35,280 --> 00:11:38,559 Speaker 1: of salt um. They are enriched with a decent smattering 180 00:11:38,600 --> 00:11:41,360 Speaker 1: of vitamins and minerals though um pretty low and fat 181 00:11:41,440 --> 00:11:43,679 Speaker 1: out of the box, still totally decent on fat if 182 00:11:43,720 --> 00:11:46,319 Speaker 1: you prepare them as directed um, they're they're you know, 183 00:11:46,440 --> 00:11:49,000 Speaker 1: they're made of carbs um and they're pretty low and 184 00:11:49,040 --> 00:11:52,520 Speaker 1: dietary fiber also low though in in in added sugars, 185 00:11:52,679 --> 00:11:55,640 Speaker 1: which is great. They'll pelp fill you up, but to 186 00:11:55,880 --> 00:11:58,400 Speaker 1: keep you going, you definitely want to pair them with 187 00:11:58,640 --> 00:12:01,880 Speaker 1: like at least some kind of protein and ideally also 188 00:12:02,240 --> 00:12:05,520 Speaker 1: some kind of vegetable. I always need a vegetable, that's 189 00:12:05,559 --> 00:12:08,839 Speaker 1: what we say, Yeah, we do for good reason. Always 190 00:12:08,880 --> 00:12:12,480 Speaker 1: need a vegetable. Um. Many of them do contain some 191 00:12:12,600 --> 00:12:16,839 Speaker 1: monosodium glutamate or MSG for savory punch, which has not, 192 00:12:17,120 --> 00:12:20,640 Speaker 1: by the way, been proven to have negative effects or 193 00:12:20,760 --> 00:12:24,280 Speaker 1: not more so than like an equivalent amount of regular 194 00:12:24,320 --> 00:12:28,040 Speaker 1: old table salt um. But you know, drink water. Water 195 00:12:28,320 --> 00:12:32,000 Speaker 1: is good eating vegetable drinks and water all full of 196 00:12:32,080 --> 00:12:34,719 Speaker 1: the sage advice here that I'm sure it's new to you, 197 00:12:35,480 --> 00:12:38,720 Speaker 1: never heard anywhere else. Absolutely breaking the news here we are, 198 00:12:39,880 --> 00:12:44,959 Speaker 1: we are so cutting edged. Um. They also these products 199 00:12:45,040 --> 00:12:48,559 Speaker 1: also often employ um East by products to help create 200 00:12:48,640 --> 00:12:54,959 Speaker 1: like complex savory flavors, so East food. Yeah, that was 201 00:12:54,960 --> 00:12:58,400 Speaker 1: a surprise and one I didn't know that wash. Yeah 202 00:12:58,480 --> 00:13:01,360 Speaker 1: I was. I was excited. Yeah. Um, same kind of 203 00:13:01,520 --> 00:13:03,559 Speaker 1: a lot of the same kind of yeast products or 204 00:13:03,640 --> 00:13:05,640 Speaker 1: by products rather that would go into to like a 205 00:13:05,720 --> 00:13:10,640 Speaker 1: mar miter a vegemite kind of situation. Yeah, okay, I 206 00:13:10,720 --> 00:13:14,600 Speaker 1: can see that, all right. Do we have any numbers, 207 00:13:14,720 --> 00:13:17,800 Speaker 1: Lauren who? They were hard to track down, y'all, and 208 00:13:17,920 --> 00:13:20,840 Speaker 1: I tried. Um. I will say, as of the turn 209 00:13:20,880 --> 00:13:25,080 Speaker 1: of the twenty one century, Rice Erroni dominated the flavor 210 00:13:25,400 --> 00:13:29,160 Speaker 1: rice dish category in the United States with over six 211 00:13:30,160 --> 00:13:32,880 Speaker 1: of the total share of the then one point one 212 00:13:33,000 --> 00:13:37,120 Speaker 1: billion dollar market. So it's nothing to sneeze. It nothing 213 00:13:37,160 --> 00:13:39,480 Speaker 1: to sneeze. It still sounds funny when you see it 214 00:13:39,520 --> 00:13:43,680 Speaker 1: out loud. It does very very much. And I also 215 00:13:43,760 --> 00:13:45,920 Speaker 1: like the idea of you get a group of people 216 00:13:46,080 --> 00:13:51,240 Speaker 1: and just having it's really serious conversation, what categories are 217 00:13:51,280 --> 00:13:54,080 Speaker 1: we going to break it down into flavor and rice 218 00:13:54,320 --> 00:13:57,959 Speaker 1: must be one just coming up with all these foods 219 00:13:58,679 --> 00:14:01,960 Speaker 1: debating it because you know they oh of course they did. Yeah. 220 00:14:02,200 --> 00:14:04,319 Speaker 1: And and like from the from the article that I 221 00:14:04,400 --> 00:14:05,959 Speaker 1: pulled this from, which I believe was one from the 222 00:14:06,000 --> 00:14:09,680 Speaker 1: New York Times from uh, like the folks at Uncle 223 00:14:09,760 --> 00:14:12,240 Speaker 1: Ben's were mad about it, like mad with a while 224 00:14:12,440 --> 00:14:15,480 Speaker 1: like they were they were sweating the like two points 225 00:14:15,559 --> 00:14:19,520 Speaker 1: below rice erroney that they were sitting at. So I 226 00:14:19,600 --> 00:14:26,640 Speaker 1: don't have any updates for you on that. Well, uh, 227 00:14:27,080 --> 00:14:29,400 Speaker 1: let's make it some money. It is it is and 228 00:14:29,520 --> 00:14:32,360 Speaker 1: and and and and not to in any way, uh, 229 00:14:32,840 --> 00:14:35,880 Speaker 1: dennigrade the important business work that all of these companies 230 00:14:35,960 --> 00:14:40,320 Speaker 1: do in UM, in producing and marketing food products that 231 00:14:40,480 --> 00:14:45,640 Speaker 1: help feed people, which is important and great. Yes, yes, yes, yes, 232 00:14:46,600 --> 00:14:50,720 Speaker 1: So how did we get this San Francisco treat as 233 00:14:50,760 --> 00:14:55,040 Speaker 1: it's sometimes called. Yes, well, we'll get into that after 234 00:14:55,080 --> 00:14:56,680 Speaker 1: we get into a quick break for a word from 235 00:14:56,720 --> 00:15:08,640 Speaker 1: our sponsor, and we're back. Thank you sponsors, yes, thank you. 236 00:15:09,760 --> 00:15:13,760 Speaker 1: So UM. It is a little bit difficult to track 237 00:15:13,840 --> 00:15:18,720 Speaker 1: down when pull Off originated. UM historians think it developed 238 00:15:18,720 --> 00:15:22,080 Speaker 1: as part of Persian cuisine in what's now Iran sometime 239 00:15:22,160 --> 00:15:26,000 Speaker 1: between nine hundred and twelve hundred C. And was further 240 00:15:26,080 --> 00:15:29,000 Speaker 1: developed by by all the people influenced by this culture 241 00:15:29,080 --> 00:15:33,000 Speaker 1: all along the Silk Road um from then until today. UM. 242 00:15:33,080 --> 00:15:36,640 Speaker 1: And you'll find rifts on it um in all kinds 243 00:15:36,680 --> 00:15:41,720 Speaker 1: of cuisines in in those in those areas. But the 244 00:15:41,840 --> 00:15:46,960 Speaker 1: story of Rice Errony specifically begins in the nineteen forties. 245 00:15:47,520 --> 00:15:50,800 Speaker 1: So Lois day Domenico met her husband, Tom Day Dominico 246 00:15:50,920 --> 00:15:55,880 Speaker 1: and San Francisco in ninet. Lois had grown up in Edmonton, Canada, 247 00:15:55,960 --> 00:15:59,040 Speaker 1: and Tom's father was an Italian immigrant who owned a 248 00:15:59,120 --> 00:16:02,680 Speaker 1: pasta making company called the Golden Grain Macaroni Company in 249 00:16:02,720 --> 00:16:06,040 Speaker 1: San Francisco, or Tom and his brothers worked if we 250 00:16:06,080 --> 00:16:09,720 Speaker 1: step back a bit, according to the company's history. Domenico 251 00:16:09,800 --> 00:16:14,440 Speaker 1: Day Domenico immigrated to the US from Italy in eight ninety, 252 00:16:14,640 --> 00:16:20,800 Speaker 1: where the immigration officer probably misunderstood, misinterpreted his name and 253 00:16:20,840 --> 00:16:24,440 Speaker 1: wrote down Charlie or or just kind of gave him 254 00:16:24,480 --> 00:16:25,960 Speaker 1: and he was like, no, that's not where you're known 255 00:16:26,000 --> 00:16:30,200 Speaker 1: as anymore, Charlie, now get out. Um. Yeah, and that 256 00:16:30,400 --> 00:16:32,880 Speaker 1: was his name for the rest of his life. Five 257 00:16:32,960 --> 00:16:35,080 Speaker 1: years later, he moved to California, where he opened a 258 00:16:35,160 --> 00:16:38,080 Speaker 1: series of produce stores. He and his wife Maria opened 259 00:16:38,120 --> 00:16:43,080 Speaker 1: what was then the Grandiano Products Incorporated in nineteen twelve 260 00:16:43,520 --> 00:16:49,280 Speaker 1: and it was renamed So that's Tom's dad. But back 261 00:16:49,360 --> 00:16:52,920 Speaker 1: to Lewis and Tom. Housing was tricky to find in 262 00:16:53,080 --> 00:16:55,720 Speaker 1: that city in the immediate aftermath of World War Two 263 00:16:55,760 --> 00:16:58,640 Speaker 1: in San Francisco, So when the couple found an ad 264 00:16:59,000 --> 00:17:04,280 Speaker 1: for room to posted by Pilatsu Captanian, it was the 265 00:17:04,400 --> 00:17:06,200 Speaker 1: ad is it was super cute to me. It was 266 00:17:06,320 --> 00:17:10,600 Speaker 1: like seventy year old woman looking to rent lives alone, 267 00:17:10,720 --> 00:17:14,280 Speaker 1: looking to rent out room in my apartment. Yeah, they 268 00:17:14,359 --> 00:17:17,119 Speaker 1: took her up on it and they moved in with her. Uh, 269 00:17:17,200 --> 00:17:20,520 Speaker 1: and Lois spent much of the day home by herself, 270 00:17:20,640 --> 00:17:22,840 Speaker 1: and she was eighteen at the time, she was pregnant 271 00:17:23,280 --> 00:17:25,920 Speaker 1: and Tom was working in the factory during the day, 272 00:17:26,880 --> 00:17:29,000 Speaker 1: which meant she had to spend a lot of time 273 00:17:29,320 --> 00:17:32,320 Speaker 1: with Captanian, who, Yes, she was this seventy year old 274 00:17:32,480 --> 00:17:35,800 Speaker 1: woman who spent much of the day every day, it seemed, 275 00:17:36,200 --> 00:17:40,080 Speaker 1: making yogurt. Lois says that at the time she didn't 276 00:17:40,080 --> 00:17:44,080 Speaker 1: even know what yogurt was, so, yeah, she wasn't much 277 00:17:44,080 --> 00:17:48,639 Speaker 1: of a cook. Yeah, and Capitanian kind of took her 278 00:17:48,720 --> 00:17:51,560 Speaker 1: under rowing and taught her how to make some of 279 00:17:51,640 --> 00:17:56,160 Speaker 1: her favorite recipes soups pakleva or bakleva, and her special 280 00:17:56,320 --> 00:18:01,240 Speaker 1: recipe for Armenian pull off. And they would give Captainian 281 00:18:01,400 --> 00:18:05,280 Speaker 1: golden grain brand Vermicelli, but she always wanted to break 282 00:18:05,320 --> 00:18:11,840 Speaker 1: it up into rice sized pieces. During their time together, 283 00:18:12,440 --> 00:18:16,320 Speaker 1: Captainian shared her life story with Lois and what a 284 00:18:16,480 --> 00:18:20,880 Speaker 1: life story it was, Oh gosh, yeah right. She spoke 285 00:18:20,880 --> 00:18:24,360 Speaker 1: about as she fled the Armenian genocide, how she lost 286 00:18:24,400 --> 00:18:26,600 Speaker 1: her husband, how she was separated from both of her 287 00:18:26,680 --> 00:18:29,760 Speaker 1: young sons, leaving them in the care of a Greek couple, 288 00:18:30,359 --> 00:18:34,680 Speaker 1: and her journey from Turkey to Syria in nineteen fifteen, 289 00:18:35,119 --> 00:18:38,399 Speaker 1: a journey embarked on by thousands of deported women and children. 290 00:18:38,720 --> 00:18:40,840 Speaker 1: She wrote all of this down in her nineteen nineteen 291 00:18:40,880 --> 00:18:46,600 Speaker 1: memoir Memory Deporte Uh. That same year she was reunited 292 00:18:47,040 --> 00:18:50,640 Speaker 1: with her two sons. And this book is extremely rare. 293 00:18:50,880 --> 00:18:54,680 Speaker 1: Most accounts of the Armenian genocide were written decades after 294 00:18:54,760 --> 00:18:57,800 Speaker 1: the facts. Yeah. Um, and it's never been published in English. 295 00:18:57,840 --> 00:19:00,680 Speaker 1: There is a German translation. Um oh, and I didn't 296 00:19:00,720 --> 00:19:04,199 Speaker 1: look up how to pronounce this um der volkermande um 297 00:19:04,520 --> 00:19:09,399 Speaker 1: the Armenian I think is vaguely what that would probably 298 00:19:09,440 --> 00:19:13,159 Speaker 1: sound like. UM. That German translation is slightly more available 299 00:19:13,600 --> 00:19:17,359 Speaker 1: than the French, but um uh yark quick note about 300 00:19:17,560 --> 00:19:20,760 Speaker 1: the Armenian genocide of nineteen fifteen. This was the result 301 00:19:21,000 --> 00:19:26,200 Speaker 1: of um. This this sweeping nationalist campaign in Turkey that 302 00:19:26,560 --> 00:19:30,879 Speaker 1: killed nearly one point five million people um and displaced 303 00:19:30,960 --> 00:19:36,359 Speaker 1: tens or hundreds of thousands more. Mm hmm. Yeah, and 304 00:19:36,760 --> 00:19:40,520 Speaker 1: uh Captanian when she when she was reunited with her sons, which, 305 00:19:40,560 --> 00:19:42,920 Speaker 1: by the way, she was pregnant on this journey, and 306 00:19:43,000 --> 00:19:46,360 Speaker 1: she had another son when she arrived in Aleppo in Syria. 307 00:19:47,200 --> 00:19:49,560 Speaker 1: They all moved to New York, where she worked as 308 00:19:49,640 --> 00:19:52,359 Speaker 1: a seamstress, even working on the drapes for the Hyde 309 00:19:52,359 --> 00:19:55,720 Speaker 1: Park home of F. D. R. After her sons made 310 00:19:55,760 --> 00:19:59,840 Speaker 1: it through their schooling, she moved to San Francisco, of 311 00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:03,160 Speaker 1: eventually the day Dominico's moved into a place of their own, 312 00:20:03,240 --> 00:20:05,400 Speaker 1: which I'm sure it was an upgrade from a single room, 313 00:20:05,440 --> 00:20:09,800 Speaker 1: but I'm kind of sad. But CAPTAINI and Josephus stayed 314 00:20:09,880 --> 00:20:13,920 Speaker 1: in the rotation, including the Armenian pull off On one occasion, 315 00:20:13,960 --> 00:20:16,560 Speaker 1: after a long day at work, Tom's brother Vince, joined 316 00:20:16,560 --> 00:20:19,040 Speaker 1: a couple for dinner and remarked, how great it would 317 00:20:19,080 --> 00:20:21,399 Speaker 1: be if you could get the pull off in a 318 00:20:21,520 --> 00:20:25,360 Speaker 1: box and there you go, lightbulb moment, Off to the races. 319 00:20:27,000 --> 00:20:29,720 Speaker 1: It took three or four years of experimentation in the 320 00:20:29,800 --> 00:20:33,520 Speaker 1: Golden Green Test kitchen before they arrived at a one 321 00:20:33,800 --> 00:20:37,680 Speaker 1: pot recipe. And this was during the fifties when convenience 322 00:20:38,200 --> 00:20:42,280 Speaker 1: was everything and there weren't many competitors when it came 323 00:20:42,359 --> 00:20:48,119 Speaker 1: to convenient boxed sides specifically. Yeah, and especially with that 324 00:20:48,200 --> 00:20:53,520 Speaker 1: that included rice. Rice was still relatively unknown on American tables. Yeah, 325 00:20:53,600 --> 00:20:57,960 Speaker 1: that's right. According to a interview with Tom, the name 326 00:20:58,480 --> 00:21:01,600 Speaker 1: came out of simplicity. Uh. They were kind of bouncing 327 00:21:01,680 --> 00:21:04,640 Speaker 1: names around and they asked themselves, what is this product, 328 00:21:05,240 --> 00:21:08,720 Speaker 1: and the answer, of course, was rice and macaroni, and 329 00:21:08,800 --> 00:21:11,960 Speaker 1: there you go Rice Roony and it just stuck, he said, 330 00:21:12,000 --> 00:21:14,120 Speaker 1: it wasn't It was almost like they just couldn't get 331 00:21:14,119 --> 00:21:15,719 Speaker 1: it out of their heads. It's not that they were 332 00:21:15,760 --> 00:21:18,119 Speaker 1: in love with it immediately, but it just stuck. Just 333 00:21:18,280 --> 00:21:20,920 Speaker 1: that was what it was, and they couldn't argue with it. Yeah, 334 00:21:21,480 --> 00:21:28,399 Speaker 1: it's like the nickname rule sometimes. This is also in 335 00:21:28,480 --> 00:21:31,520 Speaker 1: More and more Americans had televisions and the commercial for 336 00:21:31,800 --> 00:21:34,600 Speaker 1: chicken rice Seroni introduced years to the product with the 337 00:21:34,680 --> 00:21:39,240 Speaker 1: catchy San Francisco treat jingle with San Francisco imagery in 338 00:21:39,280 --> 00:21:42,600 Speaker 1: the background, and it worked for a while. Rice Saroni 339 00:21:42,720 --> 00:21:45,880 Speaker 1: was so popular it gave macaroni and Cheese craft Macaroni 340 00:21:45,920 --> 00:21:52,040 Speaker 1: and Cheese serious competition. Yeah about that jingle. Uh. The 341 00:21:52,520 --> 00:21:57,520 Speaker 1: guy who wrote it, um one, Robert tinkin Um recently 342 00:21:57,560 --> 00:22:01,160 Speaker 1: in two thousand seventeen, put his Glen Arc San Francisco 343 00:22:01,280 --> 00:22:05,600 Speaker 1: mansion on the market for twelve point five million dollars. Oh, 344 00:22:05,800 --> 00:22:10,119 Speaker 1: that's we should purchase that. That's that's a drop in 345 00:22:10,200 --> 00:22:12,639 Speaker 1: the bucket for us. That's nothing. We got a sweet 346 00:22:13,240 --> 00:22:17,800 Speaker 1: awkward food podcasting money coming in. I say, as I 347 00:22:17,920 --> 00:22:23,880 Speaker 1: come from my tying glasses, it's like piled with costumes 348 00:22:23,960 --> 00:22:29,520 Speaker 1: and books around me. Yeah yeah, I'm I'm I'm speaking 349 00:22:29,680 --> 00:22:33,440 Speaker 1: also into my closet with piles of of of boxes 350 00:22:33,560 --> 00:22:36,600 Speaker 1: surrounding me because my landlord is kicking us out in 351 00:22:36,640 --> 00:22:39,320 Speaker 1: the middle of a pandemic. Um. Yeah, we're really living 352 00:22:39,400 --> 00:22:42,960 Speaker 1: it up. This is this is a m it's time 353 00:22:43,119 --> 00:22:45,840 Speaker 1: we we we move into a mansion. I've been thinking 354 00:22:45,880 --> 00:22:48,359 Speaker 1: about it for a while, and when I play Mash, 355 00:22:48,440 --> 00:22:53,240 Speaker 1: I frequently would get mansion. So for anyone who doesn't 356 00:22:53,280 --> 00:22:57,680 Speaker 1: know what that is, it's just a very silly game 357 00:22:57,800 --> 00:23:02,160 Speaker 1: that for some reason took off among like elementary middle 358 00:23:02,160 --> 00:23:05,720 Speaker 1: school students. So don't worry about it. You're not missing anything. 359 00:23:08,160 --> 00:23:11,640 Speaker 1: Uh well so so so Robert Pertinken is doing better 360 00:23:11,680 --> 00:23:16,600 Speaker 1: than we are. Um. But but also um that that 361 00:23:16,760 --> 00:23:20,560 Speaker 1: campaign um uh was discontinued for for a while. I 362 00:23:20,640 --> 00:23:22,879 Speaker 1: believe it came back later, but it was discontinued for 363 00:23:22,880 --> 00:23:27,240 Speaker 1: a while. In seven, the VP of Product management told 364 00:23:27,280 --> 00:23:29,880 Speaker 1: The l A Times, it's just that the ad became 365 00:23:29,960 --> 00:23:34,480 Speaker 1: so familiar that people stopped listening to it. Oh wow, Yeah, 366 00:23:34,640 --> 00:23:37,840 Speaker 1: it does seem like it was very people knew it. 367 00:23:38,560 --> 00:23:41,560 Speaker 1: Oh yeah. I it was really hard for me at 368 00:23:41,600 --> 00:23:43,200 Speaker 1: the top of the episode when I was like, and 369 00:23:43,359 --> 00:23:46,159 Speaker 1: today we're talking about Rice Errouni to not amend it 370 00:23:46,240 --> 00:23:48,800 Speaker 1: with like col In the San Francisco treat, Like it's 371 00:23:48,920 --> 00:23:52,280 Speaker 1: just part of the phrase in my head. I've never 372 00:23:52,320 --> 00:23:57,240 Speaker 1: heard it, and I'm afraid Oh no, you've never Oh gosh, okay, 373 00:23:57,720 --> 00:24:04,000 Speaker 1: I don't want it. What sit site to show you cool? Uh? 374 00:24:04,560 --> 00:24:08,080 Speaker 1: But yeah. The the new tagline as seven um was 375 00:24:08,240 --> 00:24:12,560 Speaker 1: a Rice Serroni who says you can't please everyone. That. 376 00:24:14,440 --> 00:24:19,240 Speaker 1: I'm always wary of the question like mottos because immediately 377 00:24:19,480 --> 00:24:24,280 Speaker 1: like I'm like, well, I'm sure you won't please these people. 378 00:24:24,880 --> 00:24:26,919 Speaker 1: And I would never say that to anybody, but there 379 00:24:26,960 --> 00:24:29,720 Speaker 1: are people that would, um. So you know, it's a 380 00:24:29,840 --> 00:24:32,800 Speaker 1: risky gamble in my mind, a question mark. Well it was. 381 00:24:33,440 --> 00:24:35,639 Speaker 1: It was before the internet as we know it, so 382 00:24:36,320 --> 00:24:39,880 Speaker 1: that probably helped. Yeah, because these days I wouldn't dare 383 00:24:39,920 --> 00:24:44,399 Speaker 1: put a rhetorical question. It's just leaving the door open 384 00:24:44,480 --> 00:24:48,439 Speaker 1: to all kinds of trolling. It is. But but at 385 00:24:48,440 --> 00:24:51,280 Speaker 1: any rate, Back to back, back to Ryce serrouni um 386 00:24:51,760 --> 00:24:56,760 Speaker 1: and and small jingle aside aside. Yes. Three new flavors 387 00:24:56,800 --> 00:25:00,720 Speaker 1: were introduced in nineteen sixty two, beef Spanish fried rice. 388 00:25:01,080 --> 00:25:04,360 Speaker 1: Two years later, a noodles Alfredo, which is an Italian 389 00:25:04,480 --> 00:25:09,720 Speaker 1: dish um inspired product, was introduced Noodle Rowney, Noodle Rowney Parmisano, 390 00:25:10,119 --> 00:25:13,719 Speaker 1: followed soon after by a beef stroganof and fettucchini Alfredo. 391 00:25:15,119 --> 00:25:19,480 Speaker 1: The product line would be renamed pasta Roney. I kind 392 00:25:19,520 --> 00:25:23,040 Speaker 1: of missed noodle roney. I think that's great. Noodle roney 393 00:25:23,200 --> 00:25:26,720 Speaker 1: is very funny too. Noodle the word is just oh, 394 00:25:26,760 --> 00:25:32,640 Speaker 1: it's such a great word, right, Yeah, inherently comical. Inherently 395 00:25:33,440 --> 00:25:36,119 Speaker 1: The Quaker Oats Company purchased the Golden Grain Company in 396 00:25:37,160 --> 00:25:42,359 Speaker 1: for two hundred and seventy five million dollars. Golden Grains 397 00:25:42,400 --> 00:25:45,200 Speaker 1: was making an annual two hundred and fifty million at 398 00:25:45,400 --> 00:25:52,560 Speaker 1: the time. Microwavable cups were introduced in Vincent Day. Domenico 399 00:25:52,720 --> 00:25:55,399 Speaker 1: died in two thousand and seven, and from a lot 400 00:25:55,480 --> 00:25:58,280 Speaker 1: of the coverage I saw that he frequently is called 401 00:25:58,960 --> 00:26:02,760 Speaker 1: the inventor of rice RONI um a lot of stuff 402 00:26:02,760 --> 00:26:05,200 Speaker 1: I read never specifically said it was him, Like, it 403 00:26:05,240 --> 00:26:06,760 Speaker 1: sounds kind of like a group effort, but a lot 404 00:26:06,800 --> 00:26:08,560 Speaker 1: of this stuff that happened, a lot of the coverage 405 00:26:08,560 --> 00:26:11,560 Speaker 1: that happened when he died. So yeah, yeah, I guess 406 00:26:11,600 --> 00:26:16,359 Speaker 1: there doesn't have to be a solo creator. Yeah. In 407 00:26:16,480 --> 00:26:21,040 Speaker 1: two thousand eight, MPR tracked down Grandma Caps nephew Ted 408 00:26:21,119 --> 00:26:23,960 Speaker 1: and that's what he called her, Grandma Cap, and he 409 00:26:24,160 --> 00:26:26,840 Speaker 1: shared with them a memoir of her experience as an 410 00:26:26,920 --> 00:26:30,600 Speaker 1: Armenian refugee photos and of course a recipe for her 411 00:26:30,720 --> 00:26:34,480 Speaker 1: Armenian pull off that had been passed down for generations 412 00:26:34,560 --> 00:26:37,399 Speaker 1: like they could track like oh ant whoever had it 413 00:26:37,480 --> 00:26:42,639 Speaker 1: then and gave it to you know. He told MPR 414 00:26:43,040 --> 00:26:45,879 Speaker 1: he grew up eating these recipes, and he told them 415 00:26:45,960 --> 00:26:49,600 Speaker 1: that his father, Yes, was born in nineteen fifteen after 416 00:26:49,680 --> 00:26:53,199 Speaker 1: Grandma cap made it to Lepo, Syria, meaning yes, you're right, 417 00:26:53,359 --> 00:26:59,119 Speaker 1: she made that journey pregnant so wild yeah. From the 418 00:26:59,280 --> 00:27:01,920 Speaker 1: MPR R Cool here's a quote from Ted. Every time 419 00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:04,440 Speaker 1: we heard that jingle, my father would say, you know, 420 00:27:04,560 --> 00:27:07,040 Speaker 1: your grandmother gave a rice recipe to the people who 421 00:27:07,080 --> 00:27:09,640 Speaker 1: started that company, So every time you hear it, think 422 00:27:09,720 --> 00:27:13,600 Speaker 1: of her. To be honest, I know, to be honest. 423 00:27:13,640 --> 00:27:16,240 Speaker 1: We kind of thought, could that possibly be true? Could 424 00:27:16,280 --> 00:27:19,479 Speaker 1: this iconic American dish actually be attributed to some recipe 425 00:27:19,600 --> 00:27:24,320 Speaker 1: my grandmother gave years ago? And then they had another 426 00:27:24,400 --> 00:27:27,760 Speaker 1: quote in the article from Lois the impact she had 427 00:27:27,880 --> 00:27:30,680 Speaker 1: on me in my life. I only lived there four months, 428 00:27:30,720 --> 00:27:32,600 Speaker 1: but it was four months that brought all of these 429 00:27:32,680 --> 00:27:38,000 Speaker 1: things together. Myself from Canada, Tommy Italian, Mrs Captanian, Armenian, 430 00:27:38,400 --> 00:27:42,320 Speaker 1: all that converging in San Francisco. In and out of 431 00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:48,359 Speaker 1: that comes Rice A Roney. Oh so good, so beautiful. 432 00:27:49,119 --> 00:27:52,520 Speaker 1: Mm hmmm mmm. Oh I love it when we have 433 00:27:52,640 --> 00:27:59,040 Speaker 1: heartwarming ones. Yeah, I mean it's such a great story. 434 00:27:59,240 --> 00:28:04,199 Speaker 1: And uh yeah, I mean when when people ask us 435 00:28:04,480 --> 00:28:06,840 Speaker 1: to describe what is it you love about the show 436 00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:08,399 Speaker 1: or why do you show about food? I mean, this 437 00:28:08,520 --> 00:28:12,000 Speaker 1: is pretty much it. These connections people make and the 438 00:28:12,160 --> 00:28:16,760 Speaker 1: memories and all of that coming together, and it's beautiful, 439 00:28:17,640 --> 00:28:23,560 Speaker 1: it is, right, Seroni, Right, Seronio. It's a treat everywhere, 440 00:28:25,800 --> 00:28:32,800 Speaker 1: the everywhere treats um and yeah, that's uh, that's about 441 00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:35,760 Speaker 1: what we have to say about Rice, Seroni. We we 442 00:28:35,920 --> 00:28:38,440 Speaker 1: do have some listener mail for you, but first we've 443 00:28:38,480 --> 00:28:40,640 Speaker 1: got one more quick break for a word from our sponsor, 444 00:28:49,840 --> 00:28:53,080 Speaker 1: and we're back. Thank you sponsored, Yes, thank you, and 445 00:28:53,200 --> 00:29:00,400 Speaker 1: we're back with listener man like a nice hug. If 446 00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:03,640 Speaker 1: I knew the jingle, I would have attempted it. But again, 447 00:29:04,040 --> 00:29:05,720 Speaker 1: I have a I have a big fear of getting 448 00:29:05,760 --> 00:29:07,640 Speaker 1: a song stuck in your head never getting it out. 449 00:29:08,040 --> 00:29:10,760 Speaker 1: This is a legitimate getting stuck in getting a song 450 00:29:10,800 --> 00:29:13,840 Speaker 1: stuck in my head, or getting a song stuck in general. 451 00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:16,640 Speaker 1: I don't want it to happen to anybody. Oh okay, okay, 452 00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:20,240 Speaker 1: Oh well, then I'm really glad that I didn't just 453 00:29:20,840 --> 00:29:23,720 Speaker 1: in the middle of you saying that, interrupt you and 454 00:29:23,800 --> 00:29:27,320 Speaker 1: started singing the jingle. I'm glad for both of us 455 00:29:27,360 --> 00:29:31,080 Speaker 1: if that didn't happen. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I know the 456 00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:33,080 Speaker 1: method of getting it out. You're supposed to say, like 457 00:29:33,160 --> 00:29:37,440 Speaker 1: a really short jingle like by men and oh huh, 458 00:29:37,920 --> 00:29:40,080 Speaker 1: so I've I've got like an arsenal. I've prepared for 459 00:29:40,200 --> 00:29:44,440 Speaker 1: the day, but I'm still I'm still nervous, and please listeners, 460 00:29:44,520 --> 00:29:48,240 Speaker 1: don't take this as an opportunity flutter in box that 461 00:29:48,360 --> 00:29:55,000 Speaker 1: really catchy slogans and tunes. Oh no, no, okay, okay, okay, 462 00:29:55,080 --> 00:29:57,400 Speaker 1: you're gonna it's gonna be okay for right now at 463 00:29:57,400 --> 00:30:00,520 Speaker 1: any rate. I can't promise about the future. Okay, Okay, 464 00:30:00,720 --> 00:30:03,440 Speaker 1: you know this this is a SpongeBob episode, but you know, 465 00:30:03,640 --> 00:30:08,920 Speaker 1: just so, okay, alright, Rob wrote your recent sidebars on 466 00:30:08,960 --> 00:30:10,880 Speaker 1: salt and pepper shakers have struck a chord with me. 467 00:30:11,360 --> 00:30:14,440 Speaker 1: I have a small, unintentional collection of shakers and sellers, 468 00:30:14,520 --> 00:30:16,760 Speaker 1: and I thought i'd share my favorites with you. The 469 00:30:16,840 --> 00:30:19,440 Speaker 1: shaker set featuring the mice was a gift from my 470 00:30:19,680 --> 00:30:22,880 Speaker 1: great aunt on my fifth birthday. Whatever possessed the dear 471 00:30:22,920 --> 00:30:24,720 Speaker 1: woman to give a five year old a set of 472 00:30:24,800 --> 00:30:28,320 Speaker 1: porcelain salt and pepper shakers is beyond me, but I 473 00:30:28,400 --> 00:30:31,440 Speaker 1: can test that. Forty five years later, these remain very 474 00:30:31,480 --> 00:30:34,600 Speaker 1: dear to me and feature prominently in my kitchen, much 475 00:30:34,680 --> 00:30:37,400 Speaker 1: to the dismay of my wife and entertainment of my kids. 476 00:30:38,400 --> 00:30:40,640 Speaker 1: I'm still uncertain how a top hat and old book 477 00:30:40,840 --> 00:30:44,040 Speaker 1: make a set. Maybe sauces for the upper class and 478 00:30:44,120 --> 00:30:47,280 Speaker 1: pepper for the working class. Social commentary in the form 479 00:30:47,320 --> 00:30:51,880 Speaker 1: of rodent themed spice dispensers. The pepper mouse is about 480 00:30:51,960 --> 00:30:54,440 Speaker 1: to sneeze, but the salt mouse, well, I've never been 481 00:30:54,480 --> 00:30:58,320 Speaker 1: sure about the salt mouse. Honestly, I think that mouse's 482 00:30:58,360 --> 00:31:01,040 Speaker 1: expression is what my wife just lay about them. She 483 00:31:01,240 --> 00:31:03,840 Speaker 1: can't really say what fathers are about them, but it 484 00:31:03,960 --> 00:31:08,640 Speaker 1: looks mildly lecherous to me. The Friar text belonged to 485 00:31:08,720 --> 00:31:11,760 Speaker 1: my great grandparents, then grandparents, and now reside with me 486 00:31:11,960 --> 00:31:14,920 Speaker 1: and my family. After my grandparents passed away, we were 487 00:31:14,960 --> 00:31:17,360 Speaker 1: cleaning out their home and my niece, then about seven 488 00:31:17,440 --> 00:31:19,760 Speaker 1: or eight years old, said I should have them because 489 00:31:19,840 --> 00:31:24,280 Speaker 1: they look like me. I also inherited my mom's collection 490 00:31:24,320 --> 00:31:26,920 Speaker 1: of salt sellers. She in turn inherited them from both 491 00:31:27,000 --> 00:31:29,680 Speaker 1: her family and my dad's family. I particularly like the 492 00:31:29,760 --> 00:31:34,960 Speaker 1: bird themed sellers and the Viking longship. Um. The one 493 00:31:35,000 --> 00:31:36,720 Speaker 1: on the far right came from a restaurant owned by 494 00:31:36,760 --> 00:31:40,040 Speaker 1: my great grandparents. Not overly practical these days, but bursting 495 00:31:40,080 --> 00:31:44,760 Speaker 1: with family history. So yes, Rob sent those pictures, and 496 00:31:44,880 --> 00:31:48,880 Speaker 1: I believed that the descriptions were clear enough that we 497 00:31:48,960 --> 00:31:54,000 Speaker 1: could read it anyway. And and yes, these are excellent. Yeah, yeah, 498 00:31:54,240 --> 00:31:59,280 Speaker 1: excellent lecherous expression salt. That salt mouse does have something 499 00:31:59,360 --> 00:32:03,320 Speaker 1: going on. I you can sense it, you can, you can. 500 00:32:03,440 --> 00:32:07,080 Speaker 1: It's clear, it's clear through the image even. Yeah, and 501 00:32:07,240 --> 00:32:10,719 Speaker 1: I think that a salt seller is very useful. Um. 502 00:32:10,920 --> 00:32:13,640 Speaker 1: I I love I love having one on a table, 503 00:32:13,880 --> 00:32:17,200 Speaker 1: including like the silly little spoons that they so frequently 504 00:32:17,280 --> 00:32:20,120 Speaker 1: come with, that that give you like five grains of salt, 505 00:32:20,560 --> 00:32:22,760 Speaker 1: and you feel like a like a like a like 506 00:32:22,840 --> 00:32:26,400 Speaker 1: an out of place giant using because they're so tiny, 507 00:32:26,520 --> 00:32:28,520 Speaker 1: they're so and you're just like, oh, I'm gonna I'm 508 00:32:28,520 --> 00:32:32,400 Speaker 1: gonna smush everything. Um I like that. I like that 509 00:32:32,600 --> 00:32:39,200 Speaker 1: mild rush of awkward fear. Yeah yeah, I like you know, 510 00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:42,920 Speaker 1: I like to make eating an exciting experience every now 511 00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:49,640 Speaker 1: and then. Yeah, yeah, exactly. Uh Michelle wrote, I really 512 00:32:49,760 --> 00:32:52,280 Speaker 1: enjoyed the ice cream truck episode. It brought back some 513 00:32:52,400 --> 00:32:54,800 Speaker 1: interesting childhood memories. When I was a kid in the 514 00:32:54,880 --> 00:32:57,120 Speaker 1: early eighties, the ice cream truck would come down the 515 00:32:57,160 --> 00:32:59,880 Speaker 1: streets several times a week in summer. I loved it 516 00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:02,680 Speaker 1: and always looked forward to it. My mom was less 517 00:33:02,720 --> 00:33:06,920 Speaker 1: thrilled because apparently he always came just before dinner. One time, 518 00:33:07,120 --> 00:33:09,600 Speaker 1: she finally had it and went out and, in her 519 00:33:09,720 --> 00:33:12,440 Speaker 1: version of the story, asked him to please come earlier 520 00:33:12,520 --> 00:33:15,719 Speaker 1: in the day. My version has her yelling at him. 521 00:33:16,440 --> 00:33:21,080 Speaker 1: He never came back, so I got to spend the 522 00:33:21,280 --> 00:33:24,320 Speaker 1: rest of the summer being the kid whose mom ran 523 00:33:24,560 --> 00:33:27,520 Speaker 1: the ice cream man off. As you can imagine, I 524 00:33:27,600 --> 00:33:30,120 Speaker 1: did not win any popularity contests that summer and have 525 00:33:30,360 --> 00:33:34,320 Speaker 1: never been allowed to live it down. Also, because you 526 00:33:34,440 --> 00:33:37,120 Speaker 1: liked pets with food names, I adopted this cutie pie 527 00:33:37,200 --> 00:33:40,240 Speaker 1: last week from the local animal shelter, and UH attached 528 00:33:40,280 --> 00:33:42,840 Speaker 1: a picture of a cat um. They described her as 529 00:33:43,040 --> 00:33:45,960 Speaker 1: a bit timid. When I got her home, she immediately 530 00:33:46,040 --> 00:33:48,080 Speaker 1: ran and hid under the bed and won't come out 531 00:33:48,160 --> 00:33:50,800 Speaker 1: except to hide behind the window curtain as long as 532 00:33:50,880 --> 00:33:53,320 Speaker 1: I don't watch her do it. As soon as she 533 00:33:53,360 --> 00:33:56,320 Speaker 1: sees me looking, she's back under the bed. I even 534 00:33:56,400 --> 00:33:58,520 Speaker 1: had to put the food and water under there, and 535 00:33:58,600 --> 00:34:01,320 Speaker 1: the litter box right next to the ad. I'm holding 536 00:34:01,360 --> 00:34:03,400 Speaker 1: off on officially naming her until I can get to 537 00:34:03,480 --> 00:34:06,160 Speaker 1: know her real personality. I know it's normal for cats 538 00:34:06,200 --> 00:34:08,120 Speaker 1: to take a while to get comfortable in a new setting, 539 00:34:08,480 --> 00:34:11,120 Speaker 1: and she clearly had some trauma based on healed injuries, 540 00:34:11,360 --> 00:34:14,680 Speaker 1: so I get it. But at the moment, I'm calling 541 00:34:14,800 --> 00:34:18,359 Speaker 1: her noodle short for chicken noodle, because she's currently being 542 00:34:18,480 --> 00:34:21,120 Speaker 1: a bit of a chicken, and because I can usually 543 00:34:21,280 --> 00:34:23,560 Speaker 1: only see her tail when it sticks out from under 544 00:34:23,600 --> 00:34:26,800 Speaker 1: the bed or down from behind the curtain. It follows 545 00:34:26,880 --> 00:34:31,080 Speaker 1: a long family tradition of really inappropriate food based pet names. 546 00:34:31,800 --> 00:34:34,440 Speaker 1: I grew up with a cat my dad named pancake 547 00:34:34,800 --> 00:34:37,279 Speaker 1: because my parents got her when she ran under their 548 00:34:37,400 --> 00:34:39,759 Speaker 1: cars they pulled out of a gas station, and they 549 00:34:39,880 --> 00:34:45,320 Speaker 1: nearly squished her flat as a pancake, Noodle is starting 550 00:34:45,360 --> 00:34:47,120 Speaker 1: to warm up a little and if I lie on 551 00:34:47,200 --> 00:34:49,680 Speaker 1: the floor with my arm under the bed to pet her, 552 00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:53,040 Speaker 1: she'll pur and make biscuits. I have a feeling she'll 553 00:34:53,080 --> 00:35:00,319 Speaker 1: be a playful, curious kitty in no time. Oh An, 554 00:35:01,040 --> 00:35:05,280 Speaker 1: there's an update. Her official name is now Amber because 555 00:35:05,320 --> 00:35:08,680 Speaker 1: of those big gold eyes, but still sometimes call her 556 00:35:08,760 --> 00:35:12,200 Speaker 1: Noodle because when she's comfortable she just flops over bonelessly 557 00:35:12,320 --> 00:35:15,200 Speaker 1: like a wet noodle. It took two weeks of hiding 558 00:35:15,280 --> 00:35:17,840 Speaker 1: under furniture, but now, in the way of cats, she 559 00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:20,960 Speaker 1: owns the house and I just live here. I've lost 560 00:35:21,000 --> 00:35:22,640 Speaker 1: my seat on the couch and most of the bed, 561 00:35:22,760 --> 00:35:25,520 Speaker 1: and she has taken an unhealthy interest in my toes 562 00:35:25,560 --> 00:35:27,600 Speaker 1: if I moved my feet in my sleep, but I'm 563 00:35:27,640 --> 00:35:30,440 Speaker 1: not complaining. You can see from the picture that she's 564 00:35:30,480 --> 00:35:34,319 Speaker 1: gotten pretty comfortable and pretty noodlely. I shared your box 565 00:35:34,400 --> 00:35:36,680 Speaker 1: wine episode with my parents. They live part of the 566 00:35:36,760 --> 00:35:38,840 Speaker 1: year on the central coast of California, which is a 567 00:35:38,880 --> 00:35:42,000 Speaker 1: big wine region, and have very strong opinions about different 568 00:35:42,040 --> 00:35:44,760 Speaker 1: wine makers. They aren't wine snobs, but they have issues 569 00:35:44,800 --> 00:35:47,160 Speaker 1: with makers who cut down old growth oak forests or 570 00:35:47,280 --> 00:35:51,000 Speaker 1: have unethical labor practices. It cracked them up because it 571 00:35:51,080 --> 00:35:53,040 Speaker 1: reminded them of a camping trip when they were young, 572 00:35:53,200 --> 00:35:54,920 Speaker 1: where they put the box in the ice chest to 573 00:35:55,040 --> 00:35:58,279 Speaker 1: keep the wine cold. The ice melted, which made the 574 00:35:58,320 --> 00:36:01,399 Speaker 1: box disintegrate, and they were left with a floating bag 575 00:36:01,480 --> 00:36:04,440 Speaker 1: of wine and a bunch of pieces of saggy cardboard. 576 00:36:04,840 --> 00:36:06,719 Speaker 1: The wine was still good, though, which I guess is 577 00:36:06,760 --> 00:36:15,600 Speaker 1: the important thing. Indeed, probably very well chilled. Yeah, yeah, 578 00:36:17,200 --> 00:36:24,879 Speaker 1: not all fine. Yeah. Also, amber slash Noodle is adorable. Yes, yes, 579 00:36:25,560 --> 00:36:29,120 Speaker 1: so happy to hear. Uh yeah, please keep I love 580 00:36:29,200 --> 00:36:34,680 Speaker 1: when you listeners, you'll send in your pets um and 581 00:36:34,880 --> 00:36:42,120 Speaker 1: updates on them of snail updates. Yeah, amber slash Noodle 582 00:36:42,200 --> 00:36:44,239 Speaker 1: for anyone who needs to know, is A is A 583 00:36:44,480 --> 00:36:47,680 Speaker 1: is a gray striped kitty with with Yeah those big 584 00:36:48,120 --> 00:36:52,520 Speaker 1: amber eyes and and looks in the first photo a 585 00:36:52,600 --> 00:36:57,680 Speaker 1: little dubious, but in the second photo very very very 586 00:36:57,719 --> 00:37:03,279 Speaker 1: noodly in a very fluffy way. Ry relax, Yes, yes, 587 00:37:04,080 --> 00:37:08,840 Speaker 1: and uh you've certainly heard Lawrence cats on the podcast 588 00:37:08,920 --> 00:37:12,040 Speaker 1: sometimes makes a well the cat that adopted you, I suppose. 589 00:37:13,600 --> 00:37:16,840 Speaker 1: And then Andrew has been regaling of his cat stories. 590 00:37:17,000 --> 00:37:20,600 Speaker 1: So yeah, we we get it, We do very much 591 00:37:20,680 --> 00:37:24,920 Speaker 1: and always appreciate these these sorts of things. 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