1 00:00:05,120 --> 00:00:08,760 Speaker 1: Welcome back to the Richard Sherman Podcast. And what a 2 00:00:08,960 --> 00:00:12,920 Speaker 1: day for sha Door Sanders. Now everybody knew what he 3 00:00:13,000 --> 00:00:17,280 Speaker 1: did at Colorado, came in at eighth in the Heisman voting, 4 00:00:17,640 --> 00:00:22,960 Speaker 1: but for his first NFL preseason debut, with all the noise, 5 00:00:23,320 --> 00:00:28,080 Speaker 1: all the fanfare, all the media speculation, he just goes 6 00:00:28,120 --> 00:00:31,920 Speaker 1: out there and plays an excellent game. Has a touchdown 7 00:00:32,000 --> 00:00:37,000 Speaker 1: pass earlier in that game, threaded the needle layered football 8 00:00:37,640 --> 00:00:41,599 Speaker 1: in the end zone, throws some other accurate passes on 9 00:00:41,640 --> 00:00:44,760 Speaker 1: a dig a go route you know, ends up fourteen 10 00:00:44,840 --> 00:00:46,880 Speaker 1: for twenty three four one hundred and thirty eight yards. 11 00:00:46,920 --> 00:00:50,080 Speaker 1: Another touchdown on a post route where he showed incredible 12 00:00:50,120 --> 00:00:54,279 Speaker 1: pocket presence. He just seems to be the guy. A 13 00:00:54,320 --> 00:00:56,800 Speaker 1: lot of people, including mel Kiper, who was standing on 14 00:00:56,840 --> 00:00:59,320 Speaker 1: the table for him, slapping the table saying, I don't 15 00:00:59,360 --> 00:01:01,280 Speaker 1: understand how this guy's a fifth round pick and he 16 00:01:01,280 --> 00:01:04,720 Speaker 1: had him as the best quarterback in the draft and 17 00:01:04,760 --> 00:01:07,199 Speaker 1: he looked like that. And I know people are going 18 00:01:07,240 --> 00:01:09,959 Speaker 1: out there saying it's just a preseason game. It's just 19 00:01:10,000 --> 00:01:15,600 Speaker 1: a preseason game. We've watched a lot of quarterbacks over 20 00:01:15,640 --> 00:01:18,880 Speaker 1: the years play preseason games, play regular season games and 21 00:01:18,959 --> 00:01:21,200 Speaker 1: struggle mightily, and we all say, hey, you got to 22 00:01:21,200 --> 00:01:23,480 Speaker 1: give him time. That justin rookie adjusted the speed of 23 00:01:23,560 --> 00:01:26,720 Speaker 1: the game. Adjust to this like you give them grace 24 00:01:27,120 --> 00:01:28,800 Speaker 1: even if they're the number one pick in the draft. 25 00:01:28,840 --> 00:01:31,560 Speaker 1: You say, hey, there's an adjustment period. You got to 26 00:01:31,560 --> 00:01:38,080 Speaker 1: figure things out. Sure understood. They say he's going against 27 00:01:38,080 --> 00:01:40,840 Speaker 1: the toos, he's going against lesser competition. Well, he also 28 00:01:41,120 --> 00:01:44,360 Speaker 1: is running with his tools and running with guys that 29 00:01:44,440 --> 00:01:47,320 Speaker 1: aren't going to be the starters International Football League guys. 30 00:01:47,319 --> 00:01:51,400 Speaker 1: He wouldn't be necessarily be playing with if everything, if 31 00:01:51,440 --> 00:01:53,440 Speaker 1: it was day one and they were starting the season. 32 00:01:54,720 --> 00:01:56,680 Speaker 1: But I thought it was really impressive, the amount of 33 00:01:56,720 --> 00:02:01,120 Speaker 1: poise that he showed, the command of that offense, the 34 00:02:02,480 --> 00:02:07,320 Speaker 1: pocket presence when they were backed up. You didn't see 35 00:02:07,360 --> 00:02:10,680 Speaker 1: any panic. You didn't see him rushing to get rid 36 00:02:10,720 --> 00:02:14,480 Speaker 1: of the ball. And a lot of his critics are 37 00:02:14,480 --> 00:02:17,160 Speaker 1: saying he's holding the ball too long, he's holding the 38 00:02:17,200 --> 00:02:20,040 Speaker 1: ball moving in the pockets. These are live reps. So 39 00:02:20,120 --> 00:02:22,440 Speaker 1: this isn't seven on seven where you could say, oh man, 40 00:02:22,480 --> 00:02:24,560 Speaker 1: he's holding the ball too long and that would have 41 00:02:24,560 --> 00:02:27,040 Speaker 1: been a sack. He's in a live game, So if 42 00:02:27,040 --> 00:02:29,840 Speaker 1: he's not getting sacked on the play, and he's completing 43 00:02:29,919 --> 00:02:33,720 Speaker 1: passes and he's not holding the ball too long. Some 44 00:02:33,760 --> 00:02:38,639 Speaker 1: players are longer developing, some players aren't. But I thought 45 00:02:38,639 --> 00:02:42,440 Speaker 1: he did a really incredible job. And I'm looking forward 46 00:02:42,480 --> 00:02:45,480 Speaker 1: to the next game. Kevin Stefanski says he's gonna get 47 00:02:45,480 --> 00:02:47,600 Speaker 1: a lot of reps versus the Philadelphia Eagles. That's a 48 00:02:47,600 --> 00:02:50,560 Speaker 1: really talented team coming off a Super Bowl win, so 49 00:02:50,600 --> 00:02:55,480 Speaker 1: that'll be another litmus test for him. But I'm excited. 50 00:02:55,560 --> 00:02:58,239 Speaker 1: I'm excited. I know, you know, Prime is excited, and 51 00:02:59,040 --> 00:03:02,320 Speaker 1: and Shador was very humble after the game, saying the 52 00:03:02,360 --> 00:03:04,480 Speaker 1: things that he could do better, and he felt like 53 00:03:04,520 --> 00:03:06,960 Speaker 1: he let his dad down. But I know if I 54 00:03:06,960 --> 00:03:09,600 Speaker 1: if I'm Prime, and I'm sitting back watching my son, 55 00:03:11,080 --> 00:03:14,000 Speaker 1: who has been who has been talked about day in 56 00:03:14,040 --> 00:03:18,400 Speaker 1: and day out from sun up to sundown, and people 57 00:03:18,440 --> 00:03:20,120 Speaker 1: saying what he is or what he is and what 58 00:03:20,200 --> 00:03:23,480 Speaker 1: he set up to fail, whether he set up to 59 00:03:23,480 --> 00:03:25,680 Speaker 1: fail or he set up to succeed, and YadA, YadA, 60 00:03:25,680 --> 00:03:28,840 Speaker 1: he's not getting enough reps. And he just ignored the 61 00:03:28,880 --> 00:03:30,960 Speaker 1: noise and went out there and put on a show. 62 00:03:31,080 --> 00:03:33,480 Speaker 1: And I think I got a lot of respect for that. 63 00:03:34,080 --> 00:03:39,480 Speaker 1: The issue I have it's for the teams, the quarterback 64 00:03:39,600 --> 00:03:42,600 Speaker 1: needy teams that should have taken it, that are in 65 00:03:42,800 --> 00:03:49,240 Speaker 1: instilling quarterback turmoil. Whether it's the New York Giants, you know, 66 00:03:49,240 --> 00:03:51,640 Speaker 1: who went out and got Russell Wilson and Jamis Winston 67 00:03:51,720 --> 00:03:55,920 Speaker 1: and then ended up drafting Jackson Dark. If Jackson Dark 68 00:03:56,000 --> 00:03:58,520 Speaker 1: goes out there and has a preseason game like Shadora 69 00:03:58,560 --> 00:04:03,720 Speaker 1: Sanders does, everybody's gonna be screaming for him to start 70 00:04:03,800 --> 00:04:06,200 Speaker 1: for the New York Giants. It's gonna be fan fair, 71 00:04:06,280 --> 00:04:08,480 Speaker 1: it's gonna be all over. It's not gonna matter that 72 00:04:08,480 --> 00:04:11,080 Speaker 1: it's a preseason game. It's not gonna matter that. Uh, 73 00:04:11,240 --> 00:04:13,720 Speaker 1: it's whatever backups are out there. It's not it's not 74 00:04:13,760 --> 00:04:16,279 Speaker 1: gonna matter at all. And that's the that's the weird 75 00:04:16,400 --> 00:04:19,520 Speaker 1: narrative that that I I don't I don't understand the 76 00:04:19,520 --> 00:04:24,640 Speaker 1: weird hate that shador gets that everything matters when it's him. 77 00:04:25,360 --> 00:04:28,640 Speaker 1: They they they they nitpick every single thing that's on 78 00:04:28,680 --> 00:04:31,599 Speaker 1: the field when it's him. But if it was another 79 00:04:31,680 --> 00:04:34,760 Speaker 1: rookie quarterback, first round pick, and he's out there playing 80 00:04:34,760 --> 00:04:37,000 Speaker 1: well in the preseason and he's doing the things that 81 00:04:37,040 --> 00:04:39,520 Speaker 1: we expected him to do, and he looks great. He 82 00:04:39,600 --> 00:04:41,240 Speaker 1: looks like the game is not too big for him, 83 00:04:41,279 --> 00:04:44,320 Speaker 1: it's not too fasci on points, we would be celebrating 84 00:04:44,360 --> 00:04:46,680 Speaker 1: and saying, Man, this is a guy. This is he's 85 00:04:46,680 --> 00:04:49,239 Speaker 1: coming into the league prepared. He's coming in the league 86 00:04:49,279 --> 00:04:51,720 Speaker 1: ready to execute. Like I can't wait to see him 87 00:04:51,760 --> 00:04:54,120 Speaker 1: during the regular season because he looks the part. He 88 00:04:54,120 --> 00:04:57,720 Speaker 1: looks like the guy we thought he was. But for 89 00:04:57,760 --> 00:05:02,520 Speaker 1: some reason, Shador is so polarized for certain people, and 90 00:05:02,800 --> 00:05:05,160 Speaker 1: it's like they don't want him to succeed. They want 91 00:05:05,160 --> 00:05:08,520 Speaker 1: to come up with reasons and excuses why they shouldn't 92 00:05:08,560 --> 00:05:12,640 Speaker 1: celebrate his success. Hey, the guy's ball and appreciate it, 93 00:05:12,839 --> 00:05:15,560 Speaker 1: enjoy it. He's gonna be a good player. He looks 94 00:05:15,560 --> 00:05:18,920 Speaker 1: like he's gonna could be a great player. And I 95 00:05:18,960 --> 00:05:23,000 Speaker 1: think he's surprising some people in the NFL world, and 96 00:05:23,080 --> 00:05:25,120 Speaker 1: I think they're gonna have to trade for him. The 97 00:05:25,160 --> 00:05:27,520 Speaker 1: Cleveland Browns could run into a scenario where you don't 98 00:05:27,560 --> 00:05:29,960 Speaker 1: get to see Dylan Gabriel in a preseason game, or 99 00:05:30,440 --> 00:05:32,440 Speaker 1: you see him in very very limited reps in the 100 00:05:32,440 --> 00:05:34,880 Speaker 1: preseason game. You don't get to see Kenny Pickett in 101 00:05:34,880 --> 00:05:38,200 Speaker 1: the preseason game. Obviously you have tape on him from 102 00:05:38,480 --> 00:05:41,359 Speaker 1: you know, previous NFL stops. You know you got the 103 00:05:41,360 --> 00:05:46,000 Speaker 1: tape from Pittsburgh and what he did there. You likely 104 00:05:46,040 --> 00:05:48,120 Speaker 1: won't see very much of Flaco, but obviously you know 105 00:05:48,120 --> 00:05:50,480 Speaker 1: what you got in Flaco, And so all you have 106 00:05:50,720 --> 00:05:52,839 Speaker 1: is a tape that Shador Sanders is putting out and 107 00:05:52,880 --> 00:05:55,000 Speaker 1: if he gets a lot of reps versus the Philadelphia 108 00:05:55,000 --> 00:05:57,480 Speaker 1: Eagles say they go with Flaco first, and then they 109 00:05:57,520 --> 00:06:01,400 Speaker 1: go with Shador Sanders after that. And Dylan Gabriel is 110 00:06:01,400 --> 00:06:03,160 Speaker 1: still hurt, and can you Pickkett still hurt? I don't 111 00:06:03,160 --> 00:06:05,480 Speaker 1: know how severe those hamstring injuries are, but I know 112 00:06:05,520 --> 00:06:09,400 Speaker 1: they can be nagging, even for a quarterback. What do 113 00:06:09,440 --> 00:06:12,000 Speaker 1: you do when it comes down to cut day? When 114 00:06:12,000 --> 00:06:14,000 Speaker 1: it comes down to cut day and you're saying, hey, 115 00:06:14,000 --> 00:06:16,479 Speaker 1: we don't have a ton of film on Dylan Gabriel, 116 00:06:16,520 --> 00:06:18,760 Speaker 1: but we took him in a third round, so we're 117 00:06:18,800 --> 00:06:22,239 Speaker 1: not cutting him. Hey, we know, can you pickets a veteran? 118 00:06:22,279 --> 00:06:24,520 Speaker 1: You want a veteran quarterback to back up your starter? 119 00:06:25,240 --> 00:06:28,240 Speaker 1: You know, Joe Flacco is at the end of his rope, 120 00:06:28,279 --> 00:06:30,719 Speaker 1: but you know it's probably gonna have a good season, 121 00:06:30,720 --> 00:06:35,159 Speaker 1: and he's been really consistent and usually relatively healthy. And so, 122 00:06:35,160 --> 00:06:37,200 Speaker 1: so what do you do with Shador Sanders? Do you 123 00:06:37,320 --> 00:06:39,480 Speaker 1: risk trading him to a QB and needy team who 124 00:06:39,520 --> 00:06:41,880 Speaker 1: made a mistake on Draft Day and took somebody else? 125 00:06:42,080 --> 00:06:43,760 Speaker 1: And I'm not talking about the New Orleans Saints, but 126 00:06:43,800 --> 00:06:46,719 Speaker 1: I'm kind of talking about the New Orleans Saints. Do 127 00:06:46,800 --> 00:06:48,280 Speaker 1: you trade him to the New Orleans Saints? Do you 128 00:06:48,279 --> 00:06:51,360 Speaker 1: trade him to the to the Pittsburgh Steelers who after 129 00:06:51,440 --> 00:06:54,360 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers after this season? I believe he says he's done. 130 00:06:55,040 --> 00:06:57,120 Speaker 1: What do they have after that? They have that Mason 131 00:06:57,200 --> 00:06:59,239 Speaker 1: Rudolph who's been there for a while, but you also 132 00:06:59,640 --> 00:07:02,599 Speaker 1: know he has a ceiling. Can't Shador Sanders go in 133 00:07:02,640 --> 00:07:04,560 Speaker 1: there and make an impact and learn from a rod 134 00:07:04,560 --> 00:07:07,240 Speaker 1: and potentially compete for a starting job maybe next year. 135 00:07:07,279 --> 00:07:09,520 Speaker 1: I know the fanfare will be there. I know that 136 00:07:09,520 --> 00:07:11,400 Speaker 1: people will come and watch the games. I know that 137 00:07:11,440 --> 00:07:13,920 Speaker 1: the media will follow Shador Sanders if he goes to 138 00:07:14,000 --> 00:07:16,960 Speaker 1: New Orleans. All of a sudden, we're talking about the 139 00:07:17,000 --> 00:07:19,920 Speaker 1: New Orleans Saints way more than we would be talking 140 00:07:19,960 --> 00:07:23,360 Speaker 1: about the New Orleans Saints right now without Shador Sanders. Here, 141 00:07:23,440 --> 00:07:27,960 Speaker 1: So I think those are potential options. Obviously the Giants 142 00:07:28,000 --> 00:07:29,760 Speaker 1: now that they got Jackson Dart and they got all 143 00:07:29,760 --> 00:07:32,559 Speaker 1: the veterans that got it's not really a realistic option. 144 00:07:33,840 --> 00:07:38,320 Speaker 1: Could it be the New York Jets. Obviously that could 145 00:07:38,360 --> 00:07:41,200 Speaker 1: be a potential option as a backup, you know, because 146 00:07:41,200 --> 00:07:43,640 Speaker 1: he's still a rookie and he still needs time to develop. 147 00:07:44,160 --> 00:07:48,200 Speaker 1: But I just wonder what's gonna happen with the Cleveland 148 00:07:48,280 --> 00:07:51,600 Speaker 1: Browns when cut day happens. What are they gonna do? 149 00:07:51,720 --> 00:07:54,520 Speaker 1: Because if you trade Chaduel and then he goes somewhere 150 00:07:54,560 --> 00:08:00,160 Speaker 1: else and thrives and has an illustrious NFL career, it 151 00:08:00,280 --> 00:08:04,040 Speaker 1: just goes on the list of things the Browns did 152 00:08:04,200 --> 00:08:07,600 Speaker 1: that would were terrible decisions. Hey, you drafted the guy, 153 00:08:08,040 --> 00:08:10,560 Speaker 1: but then you traded him away or you cut him 154 00:08:10,880 --> 00:08:14,880 Speaker 1: when you knew what you had. And I thought it 155 00:08:14,920 --> 00:08:19,240 Speaker 1: was interesting something that has them said when he said 156 00:08:19,400 --> 00:08:23,560 Speaker 1: I didn't want Shador Sanders Andrew Berry drafted him, it 157 00:08:23,640 --> 00:08:30,080 Speaker 1: was like I've been watching the NFL for a long time, 158 00:08:30,240 --> 00:08:33,400 Speaker 1: been around the NFL, played in the NFL. Obviously, I 159 00:08:33,440 --> 00:08:39,360 Speaker 1: don't know many times an owner has just outright said 160 00:08:39,920 --> 00:08:42,959 Speaker 1: they didn't want a draft pick in the year that 161 00:08:43,000 --> 00:08:45,439 Speaker 1: the kid was drafted. I don't know many times that's 162 00:08:45,480 --> 00:08:49,080 Speaker 1: happened where an owner has during training camp. This isn't 163 00:08:49,200 --> 00:08:52,839 Speaker 1: late like maybe years later, when things didn't go the 164 00:08:52,880 --> 00:08:56,760 Speaker 1: way you thought it was you you come out and say, hey, 165 00:08:56,800 --> 00:08:59,160 Speaker 1: that wasn't That wasn't a guy I thought we should draft. 166 00:08:59,600 --> 00:09:02,400 Speaker 1: But I try trusted our staff. They went and got him, 167 00:09:02,440 --> 00:09:04,720 Speaker 1: they evaluated him, they thought it would be a good pick. 168 00:09:04,720 --> 00:09:08,080 Speaker 1: It didn't work out, okay, understood, But to come out 169 00:09:08,280 --> 00:09:12,320 Speaker 1: during training camp and outright say I didn't want this 170 00:09:12,400 --> 00:09:16,480 Speaker 1: guy about a quarterback on your team, a kid that 171 00:09:16,640 --> 00:09:19,920 Speaker 1: was drafted in this draft class, Like, how do you 172 00:09:19,960 --> 00:09:24,080 Speaker 1: think that makes makes your doors Sanders feel? Now, sure 173 00:09:24,120 --> 00:09:26,520 Speaker 1: he's got mental fortut he's not gonna let it show. 174 00:09:26,559 --> 00:09:29,719 Speaker 1: He's not gonna But my owner just came out and said, no, 175 00:09:29,840 --> 00:09:32,440 Speaker 1: I didn't want you to GM wanted you, but I 176 00:09:32,480 --> 00:09:35,360 Speaker 1: wish we would have drafted somebody else, Like this wasn't 177 00:09:35,360 --> 00:09:38,560 Speaker 1: even a first round pick. This fifth round picks are 178 00:09:38,920 --> 00:09:41,080 Speaker 1: a lot of times throwaway picks. And this is coming 179 00:09:41,120 --> 00:09:44,200 Speaker 1: from a fifth round pick. It's not like you're getting 180 00:09:44,240 --> 00:09:46,560 Speaker 1: a ton of fifth round picks that are just you know, 181 00:09:46,640 --> 00:09:50,440 Speaker 1: going out and becoming all pros and having illustrious careers 182 00:09:50,480 --> 00:09:52,559 Speaker 1: and being part of one of the best defenses in 183 00:09:52,679 --> 00:09:54,520 Speaker 1: all of the time. No, you're not always getting that. 184 00:09:54,559 --> 00:09:56,800 Speaker 1: You're not always getting Tom Brady in the sixth round, 185 00:09:57,280 --> 00:09:59,959 Speaker 1: You're not always getting George Kettle in the fifth round, 186 00:10:00,559 --> 00:10:02,720 Speaker 1: Cam Chancer in the fifth round. You're not always getting 187 00:10:02,760 --> 00:10:05,760 Speaker 1: those things. So for owner to come out and say, 188 00:10:07,520 --> 00:10:09,160 Speaker 1: I don't think we should have drafted him. I didn't 189 00:10:09,160 --> 00:10:12,880 Speaker 1: want him, that's really weird. That's really strange, because it 190 00:10:12,920 --> 00:10:17,720 Speaker 1: makes it even harder for them to justify keeping him 191 00:10:17,800 --> 00:10:20,720 Speaker 1: even if he plays well, because say he plays well 192 00:10:21,280 --> 00:10:25,640 Speaker 1: and he makes a team and you know, by some 193 00:10:25,800 --> 00:10:29,800 Speaker 1: crazy scenario ends up getting meaningful reps and starting games 194 00:10:30,559 --> 00:10:35,640 Speaker 1: and playing well, then you're gonna have to walk that 195 00:10:35,840 --> 00:10:38,800 Speaker 1: back in such an incredible way. You've already said, you've 196 00:10:38,840 --> 00:10:40,680 Speaker 1: already come out and said you don't want this kid, 197 00:10:41,080 --> 00:10:43,120 Speaker 1: you don't want Shador standing for no reason. There was 198 00:10:43,160 --> 00:10:46,679 Speaker 1: no it was unprompted, nobody told you to say it, 199 00:10:47,040 --> 00:10:48,800 Speaker 1: and I don't think it had any merit. There was 200 00:10:48,840 --> 00:10:51,560 Speaker 1: no reason. I don't understand the logic in saying that. 201 00:10:51,600 --> 00:10:56,080 Speaker 1: But congratulations to Shador Sanders, and I hope he continues 202 00:10:56,160 --> 00:10:58,760 Speaker 1: to shine in the preseason. I'm excited for him. I'm 203 00:10:58,800 --> 00:11:01,600 Speaker 1: excited for him to continue to show he is who 204 00:11:01,600 --> 00:11:04,920 Speaker 1: he thinks he is. And if he goes out there 205 00:11:04,960 --> 00:11:06,320 Speaker 1: and does it against the Eagles, I don't know if 206 00:11:06,320 --> 00:11:09,439 Speaker 1: he'll start again on what the plan is. I know 207 00:11:09,480 --> 00:11:10,920 Speaker 1: they're head coach that it will get a lot of 208 00:11:10,920 --> 00:11:13,400 Speaker 1: reps that game, and if he continues to show what 209 00:11:13,440 --> 00:11:17,600 Speaker 1: he's showing right now, it's gonna be an interesting media 210 00:11:17,679 --> 00:11:21,320 Speaker 1: day and an interesting decision for the Cleveland Browns. But 211 00:11:21,520 --> 00:11:25,120 Speaker 1: on to another preseason game that had a lot of 212 00:11:25,960 --> 00:11:28,000 Speaker 1: relevance for me and a lot of relevance for the 213 00:11:28,000 --> 00:11:31,600 Speaker 1: Seattle area. The Seattle Seahawks played the Las Vegas Raiders, 214 00:11:32,840 --> 00:11:36,640 Speaker 1: a debut game for Jalen Milrow, who had a really 215 00:11:36,679 --> 00:11:39,800 Speaker 1: cool game with his legs, with his arm, showed a 216 00:11:39,800 --> 00:11:43,400 Speaker 1: lot of promise, had a lot of Seahawks fans kind 217 00:11:43,400 --> 00:11:46,440 Speaker 1: of screaming, Hey, this might be the guy, This might 218 00:11:46,440 --> 00:11:49,800 Speaker 1: be the guy for the future, and is this the 219 00:11:49,920 --> 00:11:52,880 Speaker 1: time for them to get rid of Drew Locke. I 220 00:11:52,920 --> 00:11:54,920 Speaker 1: don't know. I'm not the head coach, but it does 221 00:11:55,000 --> 00:11:59,160 Speaker 1: look like there will be packages in there for Jalen 222 00:11:59,200 --> 00:12:02,560 Speaker 1: Milrow and he will factor into this offense and help 223 00:12:02,640 --> 00:12:07,280 Speaker 1: them win football games. Uh. The defense looked solid, made plays. 224 00:12:08,120 --> 00:12:11,559 Speaker 1: You could see some of the things that make Mike 225 00:12:11,640 --> 00:12:15,000 Speaker 1: McDonald both special, both as a play caller and the 226 00:12:15,040 --> 00:12:18,000 Speaker 1: head coach. It was an interception in the game where 227 00:12:18,000 --> 00:12:21,400 Speaker 1: they disguised it went to what looked like to trap, 228 00:12:22,559 --> 00:12:25,480 Speaker 1: the corner picked the ball off. It was a beautiful play. 229 00:12:25,600 --> 00:12:27,400 Speaker 1: I can't wait to see more of that and really 230 00:12:27,440 --> 00:12:31,000 Speaker 1: go into detail breaking those plays down. But it was 231 00:12:31,040 --> 00:12:34,720 Speaker 1: Pete Carroll's first time back in Seattle as the head 232 00:12:34,760 --> 00:12:38,800 Speaker 1: coach of an imposing team. It was well received. People 233 00:12:39,000 --> 00:12:40,839 Speaker 1: cheered for him, as they should. I thought it was 234 00:12:40,920 --> 00:12:44,199 Speaker 1: classy what Mike McDonald said. Hey, I mean, he did 235 00:12:44,240 --> 00:12:46,640 Speaker 1: a lot of great things here. He's a great coach, 236 00:12:46,760 --> 00:12:49,600 Speaker 1: he's beloved. I think the fans should cheer for him. 237 00:12:49,640 --> 00:12:51,600 Speaker 1: That was the right thing to say. And you know, 238 00:12:51,640 --> 00:12:54,800 Speaker 1: it just goes on to show what a classy human 239 00:12:54,840 --> 00:12:57,240 Speaker 1: being Mike McDonald is and the kind of man and 240 00:12:57,600 --> 00:13:01,360 Speaker 1: coach he is. And you saw a little bit, you 241 00:13:01,400 --> 00:13:04,880 Speaker 1: know a little bit of the other side fan Fair 242 00:13:04,960 --> 00:13:07,480 Speaker 1: with with Geno Smith and and you know, there was 243 00:13:07,520 --> 00:13:11,200 Speaker 1: a sign saying, who's a bigger bust? Uh JaMarcus Russell, 244 00:13:11,320 --> 00:13:15,319 Speaker 1: Gino Smith or shothing right on the corner where the 245 00:13:15,400 --> 00:13:19,600 Speaker 1: visiting team comes out, and hey, it is what it is. 246 00:13:19,640 --> 00:13:22,400 Speaker 1: That's part of the game. And Geno flipping flipping the 247 00:13:22,440 --> 00:13:25,240 Speaker 1: fans off and and people up in arms about that. 248 00:13:25,720 --> 00:13:28,280 Speaker 1: Hey if you if you can dish it, you gotta 249 00:13:28,320 --> 00:13:30,120 Speaker 1: be able to receive it. Do you know he doesn't 250 00:13:30,120 --> 00:13:32,440 Speaker 1: know them what he's supposed to do. Cheer him on 251 00:13:32,559 --> 00:13:35,360 Speaker 1: and then give him a hand and sign sign the sign, 252 00:13:35,400 --> 00:13:38,680 Speaker 1: the uh, the sign. I don't think that's how it's going. 253 00:13:38,960 --> 00:13:40,960 Speaker 1: I don't think that's how it's going to go. And 254 00:13:41,040 --> 00:13:43,520 Speaker 1: I love that for Gino. I love that for Seahawks fans. 255 00:13:43,559 --> 00:13:45,880 Speaker 1: You know that that that started a little bit of 256 00:13:45,880 --> 00:13:48,720 Speaker 1: a back and forth. I thought Gino played solid. Yeah, 257 00:13:48,840 --> 00:13:51,120 Speaker 1: only played one drive, got out of there pretty early. 258 00:13:52,640 --> 00:13:55,040 Speaker 1: But that was fun. That's fun. That's what sports is about, 259 00:13:55,120 --> 00:13:57,240 Speaker 1: being able to go. You know, you're the opposing team. 260 00:13:57,280 --> 00:13:59,000 Speaker 1: They can give you a little crap and you can 261 00:13:59,040 --> 00:14:01,000 Speaker 1: give it back. That's that's fun. I thought it was 262 00:14:01,000 --> 00:14:03,480 Speaker 1: great the way Pete showed showed love to all the 263 00:14:03,520 --> 00:14:07,160 Speaker 1: former players, all his former players, and they showed love 264 00:14:07,240 --> 00:14:09,199 Speaker 1: back to him. It was a beautiful moment. I think 265 00:14:09,240 --> 00:14:11,960 Speaker 1: it made everything easier that this was a preseason game 266 00:14:12,840 --> 00:14:15,080 Speaker 1: and not a regular season game, because I think it 267 00:14:15,160 --> 00:14:17,920 Speaker 1: during a regular season game, if it was happening like that, 268 00:14:18,800 --> 00:14:20,920 Speaker 1: it wouldn't have been as sweet. It's not as sweet. 269 00:14:21,000 --> 00:14:23,000 Speaker 1: You know, things are really serious during the regular season. 270 00:14:23,040 --> 00:14:26,400 Speaker 1: Things are a lot more laxed during the preseason, and 271 00:14:26,800 --> 00:14:30,160 Speaker 1: I think that's why it was able to happen the 272 00:14:30,200 --> 00:14:34,479 Speaker 1: way it happened. A guy that did have a forgetable 273 00:14:34,560 --> 00:14:40,200 Speaker 1: debut was Ashton genty Shesh. You know, I know fans 274 00:14:40,200 --> 00:14:41,960 Speaker 1: are talking about his stance and all that. I don't 275 00:14:42,000 --> 00:14:45,360 Speaker 1: think that was the case. It was just a rough game. 276 00:14:45,960 --> 00:14:48,160 Speaker 1: He got stuffed in the backfield, I want to say 277 00:14:48,200 --> 00:14:50,920 Speaker 1: a few times, and yeah, I don't think he had 278 00:14:50,960 --> 00:14:54,360 Speaker 1: a run over three yards. But this is the National 279 00:14:54,360 --> 00:14:57,360 Speaker 1: Football League. Does that mean he's gonna be a terrible 280 00:14:57,400 --> 00:15:00,720 Speaker 1: player going forward and and he's a bust No, by 281 00:15:00,720 --> 00:15:03,840 Speaker 1: no means, But people will remember this moment. If he 282 00:15:03,920 --> 00:15:06,320 Speaker 1: goes on to be five time All Pro, people will 283 00:15:06,320 --> 00:15:08,600 Speaker 1: look back and be like, hey, this look I had started. 284 00:15:08,640 --> 00:15:12,600 Speaker 1: He had a rough game. The rough debut, had to 285 00:15:12,600 --> 00:15:15,160 Speaker 1: figure himself out, had to find himself, and he ended 286 00:15:15,200 --> 00:15:17,000 Speaker 1: up being the player we all thought he could be. 287 00:15:17,080 --> 00:15:21,680 Speaker 1: But that was rough. A guy that's that's turning heads 288 00:15:21,680 --> 00:15:25,040 Speaker 1: at Seahawks camp, and a guy whose name I'm hearing 289 00:15:25,160 --> 00:15:29,680 Speaker 1: repeatedly over and over is Tory Horton. He had thirty 290 00:15:29,720 --> 00:15:32,160 Speaker 1: one three catches for thirty one yards and a touchdown 291 00:15:32,480 --> 00:15:34,760 Speaker 1: and and and you could just see it. At Colorado State. 292 00:15:34,840 --> 00:15:37,120 Speaker 1: He was the guy there. I only remember watching him 293 00:15:37,120 --> 00:15:40,920 Speaker 1: because obviously we were watching Prime in Colorado, but he 294 00:15:41,040 --> 00:15:44,040 Speaker 1: was their number one guy punt returning, and he just 295 00:15:44,040 --> 00:15:48,760 Speaker 1: seemed smooth and slippery and and you know, could get 296 00:15:48,800 --> 00:15:52,760 Speaker 1: to his spots, and he seemed at times dominant and unstoppable. 297 00:15:52,760 --> 00:15:56,640 Speaker 1: And sometimes guys at these universities, when you're the when 298 00:15:56,680 --> 00:15:58,800 Speaker 1: you're the go to guy and you're the you're the 299 00:15:58,880 --> 00:16:02,400 Speaker 1: only threat on that offense, defenses are game planning to 300 00:16:02,440 --> 00:16:07,960 Speaker 1: stop you. You develop a variety to your game. You 301 00:16:08,080 --> 00:16:14,560 Speaker 1: to develop really quickly, and you're able to understand how 302 00:16:14,600 --> 00:16:17,840 Speaker 1: to get to your spots, how to be consistent, how 303 00:16:18,400 --> 00:16:22,080 Speaker 1: to catch consistently, get open consistently, and be the guy. 304 00:16:22,120 --> 00:16:24,080 Speaker 1: And I think that's what makes him special. He's a 305 00:16:24,120 --> 00:16:27,040 Speaker 1: guy that has been the number one receiving for his 306 00:16:27,120 --> 00:16:29,720 Speaker 1: team for a few years. And so when you come 307 00:16:29,720 --> 00:16:31,840 Speaker 1: in and you're fighting for a spot, if you keep 308 00:16:31,880 --> 00:16:35,040 Speaker 1: that same mentality, you keep that same confidence, you go 309 00:16:35,120 --> 00:16:37,560 Speaker 1: out there and you play like you're supposed to be here. 310 00:16:37,600 --> 00:16:39,200 Speaker 1: You play like you're supposed to be the guy. I'm 311 00:16:39,240 --> 00:16:41,400 Speaker 1: supposed to be the number one. Somebody's gonna have to 312 00:16:41,400 --> 00:16:44,120 Speaker 1: tell him he's not the number one for him to 313 00:16:44,160 --> 00:16:45,760 Speaker 1: believe it, and I don't think even then he's gonna 314 00:16:45,760 --> 00:16:47,320 Speaker 1: believe it. So I'm happy for him. I think he 315 00:16:47,400 --> 00:16:51,840 Speaker 1: has a great chance at making this team. Apparently Marshan 316 00:16:51,960 --> 00:16:54,400 Speaker 1: is a photographer now, so you can add that to 317 00:16:54,520 --> 00:16:58,280 Speaker 1: his resume of things he's doing. He's a photographer, he's 318 00:16:58,320 --> 00:17:04,240 Speaker 1: an actor, he's in commercial, he's on Amazon Prime. He's 319 00:17:04,320 --> 00:17:06,080 Speaker 1: likely a Hall of Fame running back if they don't 320 00:17:06,080 --> 00:17:07,359 Speaker 1: put him in the Hall. I don't think none of 321 00:17:07,440 --> 00:17:10,600 Speaker 1: us going in. But that was fun to see. It 322 00:17:10,600 --> 00:17:12,720 Speaker 1: was fun to see Marshawn out there. Obviously, Mike b 323 00:17:12,920 --> 00:17:15,480 Speaker 1: and Cliff and all the guys did a great job 324 00:17:15,520 --> 00:17:19,120 Speaker 1: in the broadcast. That was fun to see. But Pete's 325 00:17:19,160 --> 00:17:21,719 Speaker 1: first game back, I think was a success, and of 326 00:17:21,760 --> 00:17:24,040 Speaker 1: course it all ends in a tie, and they blocked 327 00:17:24,080 --> 00:17:25,760 Speaker 1: the field goal at the end. I said, of course, 328 00:17:26,240 --> 00:17:29,320 Speaker 1: there's no other way this game could have ended. But 329 00:17:29,400 --> 00:17:34,119 Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to seeing more of those exotic looks 330 00:17:34,119 --> 00:17:38,360 Speaker 1: for Mike McDonald and his defense, and I can't wait 331 00:17:38,400 --> 00:17:40,640 Speaker 1: to give you guys a film breakdown of it when 332 00:17:40,680 --> 00:17:44,760 Speaker 1: I get a chance. Moving on, we're moving on to 333 00:17:44,840 --> 00:17:47,479 Speaker 1: the San Francisco forty nine ers and what they're doing 334 00:17:48,000 --> 00:17:52,679 Speaker 1: up there in Santa Clara. They had joint practices with 335 00:17:52,720 --> 00:17:55,800 Speaker 1: the Denver Broncos, and from what I understand, Denver Broncos 336 00:17:55,840 --> 00:17:59,400 Speaker 1: dominated early and their number one defense in the land, 337 00:17:59,440 --> 00:18:02,359 Speaker 1: and I think that's hardly debatable. Best corner in the 338 00:18:02,480 --> 00:18:05,400 Speaker 1: National Football League and Patrick Surtain. They have a really 339 00:18:05,440 --> 00:18:08,720 Speaker 1: elite defensive line, and they do a great job playing 340 00:18:08,760 --> 00:18:12,280 Speaker 1: man and man coverage, two man trap, and they have 341 00:18:12,359 --> 00:18:15,160 Speaker 1: corners that can do it in certain and Riley Moss 342 00:18:15,200 --> 00:18:17,760 Speaker 1: and I think they're gonna they're gonna continue to be 343 00:18:17,800 --> 00:18:23,040 Speaker 1: one of the best defenses in football. But then you 344 00:18:23,119 --> 00:18:26,359 Speaker 1: look up, you look up on the other side, and 345 00:18:26,400 --> 00:18:28,480 Speaker 1: you see the San Francisco forty nine Ers found a 346 00:18:28,520 --> 00:18:32,280 Speaker 1: way brock perty. They said he started to move the 347 00:18:32,280 --> 00:18:35,159 Speaker 1: ball and start to find his spots. Obviously, that receiving 348 00:18:35,240 --> 00:18:38,520 Speaker 1: core is really banged up. But you still have George Kittle, 349 00:18:39,080 --> 00:18:42,119 Speaker 1: you still have Ricky Pursaul, you still have Christian McCaffrey, 350 00:18:42,280 --> 00:18:45,439 Speaker 1: who was obviously from the Denver area and made some 351 00:18:45,520 --> 00:18:49,080 Speaker 1: huge plays in practice and really help open things up. 352 00:18:49,280 --> 00:18:51,120 Speaker 1: So that's good to hear from both sides. I'm looking 353 00:18:51,119 --> 00:18:54,879 Speaker 1: forward to that game happening today it's Saturday, and seeing 354 00:18:54,920 --> 00:18:58,200 Speaker 1: how both teams perform. I would imagine Kyle's gonna play 355 00:18:58,240 --> 00:19:00,639 Speaker 1: the starters for a little while, but not as much 356 00:19:00,680 --> 00:19:02,840 Speaker 1: as they're going to play in the next game. But 357 00:19:02,880 --> 00:19:06,480 Speaker 1: that's the story to watch. Upton stout as a guy 358 00:19:07,640 --> 00:19:09,560 Speaker 1: who showed up when I went out there for training 359 00:19:09,560 --> 00:19:12,320 Speaker 1: camp and has continued to show continue to show up 360 00:19:13,160 --> 00:19:17,080 Speaker 1: in these joint practices with the Denver Broncos. I got 361 00:19:17,119 --> 00:19:18,960 Speaker 1: a feeling he's gonna make this team, and not only 362 00:19:19,000 --> 00:19:21,679 Speaker 1: make this team, but really battle for starting spot and 363 00:19:21,720 --> 00:19:24,880 Speaker 1: play meaningful snaps for this football team. He's a guy 364 00:19:24,920 --> 00:19:28,280 Speaker 1: that that the moment's not too big for. He's sticky, scrappy, 365 00:19:29,680 --> 00:19:33,119 Speaker 1: he believes he belongs the forty nine Ers put out 366 00:19:33,119 --> 00:19:35,320 Speaker 1: a clip of him, you know, in one on ones 367 00:19:35,960 --> 00:19:40,680 Speaker 1: intercepting the football, and I don't think everybody understands that 368 00:19:41,200 --> 00:19:44,760 Speaker 1: one on ones are an offensive drill. As much of 369 00:19:44,800 --> 00:19:48,000 Speaker 1: an offensive drill as there ever has an existent There's 370 00:19:48,000 --> 00:19:51,119 Speaker 1: nothing but open space. The quarterback has no d line, 371 00:19:51,240 --> 00:19:55,560 Speaker 1: no rush, no nothing, there's no help, there's no there's 372 00:19:55,560 --> 00:19:57,480 Speaker 1: no nobody in the way. You don't have to wait 373 00:19:57,520 --> 00:19:59,959 Speaker 1: for windows to open. The receiver can just literally run 374 00:20:00,119 --> 00:20:01,600 Speaker 1: from one side of the field to the other side 375 00:20:01,600 --> 00:20:03,760 Speaker 1: of the field and then turn around and run back 376 00:20:03,760 --> 00:20:05,760 Speaker 1: to the other side of the field and nobody's gonna 377 00:20:05,760 --> 00:20:09,560 Speaker 1: stop him. So for him to thrive in that environment, 378 00:20:09,920 --> 00:20:12,440 Speaker 1: UH was really cool to see. I think he's he's 379 00:20:12,560 --> 00:20:15,680 Speaker 1: he's a guy that fans should keep an eye out for. Uh. 380 00:20:15,680 --> 00:20:18,080 Speaker 1: He's definitely a guy who's gonna who's gonna pop out 381 00:20:18,119 --> 00:20:21,840 Speaker 1: on tape today. I'm sure you know, obviously the game 382 00:20:21,880 --> 00:20:23,960 Speaker 1: hasn't happened yet, but I would imagine he's gonna be 383 00:20:23,960 --> 00:20:29,760 Speaker 1: a guy that that makes him huge place today Lynch 384 00:20:29,880 --> 00:20:34,000 Speaker 1: is comparing up and stout to Rendez. Barber got some 385 00:20:34,119 --> 00:20:36,560 Speaker 1: high praise, got some really high praise from a guy 386 00:20:36,800 --> 00:20:39,480 Speaker 1: who played with Rende Barbara on one of the best defenses, 387 00:20:39,760 --> 00:20:43,320 Speaker 1: uh in the history of International Football League. So hey, hey, 388 00:20:43,400 --> 00:20:46,200 Speaker 1: if John Lynch is saying it, I think I think 389 00:20:46,240 --> 00:20:51,800 Speaker 1: we gotta you at least gotta gotta take take heed 390 00:20:51,840 --> 00:20:53,960 Speaker 1: to what he's saying and and and we gotta see it. 391 00:20:53,960 --> 00:20:55,200 Speaker 1: We gotta see it, We gotta see it. And I 392 00:20:55,200 --> 00:21:00,959 Speaker 1: can't wait to see it. Davante Adams in l is 393 00:21:01,040 --> 00:21:03,520 Speaker 1: going to be an well. He's an issue everywhere. He's 394 00:21:03,560 --> 00:21:06,359 Speaker 1: an issue everywhere he's played. He's a problem. He's a 395 00:21:06,400 --> 00:21:09,359 Speaker 1: dominant receiver who has a really unique skill set and 396 00:21:09,440 --> 00:21:11,439 Speaker 1: he's a master at his craft and it's only gotten 397 00:21:11,480 --> 00:21:15,760 Speaker 1: better with time. But my god, that clip of him 398 00:21:15,840 --> 00:21:22,679 Speaker 1: versus the Dallas defense in practice. People had told me 399 00:21:22,920 --> 00:21:24,920 Speaker 1: what happened. You know, I was talking to Andrew Whitworth, 400 00:21:24,920 --> 00:21:28,000 Speaker 1: who's really really tied in with the Rams, and he 401 00:21:28,080 --> 00:21:30,320 Speaker 1: said Davante Adams might have had four hundred yards in 402 00:21:30,359 --> 00:21:32,280 Speaker 1: that practice, and I was like, you know, I mean, 403 00:21:32,440 --> 00:21:34,720 Speaker 1: I hear you, but Davante's cooking, but he ain't getting 404 00:21:34,800 --> 00:21:37,240 Speaker 1: him like that. And then you see the highlights and 405 00:21:37,280 --> 00:21:42,879 Speaker 1: you're like, yesh, my guy. I mean, obviously the Dallas 406 00:21:42,880 --> 00:21:45,640 Speaker 1: Cowboys defense could have played that better in some respects, 407 00:21:45,640 --> 00:21:49,080 Speaker 1: but Davante Adams is a doll and he may be 408 00:21:49,240 --> 00:21:51,520 Speaker 1: on his way to an All Pro season. On the 409 00:21:51,560 --> 00:21:53,800 Speaker 1: opposite side of pooking the cool, because you're gonna have 410 00:21:53,840 --> 00:21:57,320 Speaker 1: the game plan for pooking the cool, I'm sure that 411 00:21:57,640 --> 00:22:01,200 Speaker 1: there's gonna be very few times that Matt Stafford misses them. 412 00:22:01,800 --> 00:22:04,040 Speaker 1: So this is gonna be a really fun offense to watch. 413 00:22:04,240 --> 00:22:06,359 Speaker 1: I thought the San Francisco forty nine Ers should have 414 00:22:06,359 --> 00:22:08,679 Speaker 1: had a shot at him. I think he came, he 415 00:22:08,760 --> 00:22:12,320 Speaker 1: hurt him out. They didn't offer him enough money. I'm 416 00:22:12,320 --> 00:22:15,440 Speaker 1: sure hindsight is twenty twenty and Kyle, with the injuries 417 00:22:15,480 --> 00:22:18,600 Speaker 1: they have and how things are going with receiver at 418 00:22:18,640 --> 00:22:20,560 Speaker 1: receiver for the San Francisco forty nine ers, they would 419 00:22:20,560 --> 00:22:22,320 Speaker 1: have loved to have him, but they don't have the 420 00:22:22,359 --> 00:22:24,920 Speaker 1: money to pay him what the Rams are paying them, 421 00:22:24,920 --> 00:22:30,040 Speaker 1: so that's unfortunate. In other news, apparently the NFL is 422 00:22:30,040 --> 00:22:35,080 Speaker 1: trying to ban smelling salts. I don't think that's gonna happen. 423 00:22:36,119 --> 00:22:39,440 Speaker 1: I think the team. I think it's one of those 424 00:22:39,440 --> 00:22:42,160 Speaker 1: things that the NFL is trying to do to make 425 00:22:42,200 --> 00:22:48,800 Speaker 1: sure that they protect themselves and from liability and not 426 00:22:48,960 --> 00:22:52,560 Speaker 1: let the doctors are the training staff give it to 427 00:22:52,600 --> 00:22:55,359 Speaker 1: the players because a player can say, hey, they gave 428 00:22:55,440 --> 00:22:59,919 Speaker 1: me this and it massed my concussion symptoms, etcetera, etcetera. 429 00:23:00,040 --> 00:23:03,440 Speaker 1: But hey, that's how players get hype. That's how players 430 00:23:03,440 --> 00:23:06,480 Speaker 1: have gotten ready to play for a very very very 431 00:23:06,520 --> 00:23:08,640 Speaker 1: long time. I don't know how long. I can't say 432 00:23:08,680 --> 00:23:11,280 Speaker 1: thirty forty, maybe fifty years. I don't know how far 433 00:23:11,320 --> 00:23:14,080 Speaker 1: it goes back, but it goes back far. And those 434 00:23:14,080 --> 00:23:18,399 Speaker 1: smelling sauce get your going and get your going every 435 00:23:18,400 --> 00:23:21,160 Speaker 1: single time. And you got guys that depend on them, 436 00:23:21,160 --> 00:23:24,439 Speaker 1: guys that every single drive you you get it and 437 00:23:24,520 --> 00:23:29,040 Speaker 1: you you're ready to play. And so I don't think 438 00:23:29,080 --> 00:23:30,760 Speaker 1: that's gonna be a big issue. I think it's a 439 00:23:30,760 --> 00:23:35,120 Speaker 1: small story that that became a big story, and it's 440 00:23:35,119 --> 00:23:37,159 Speaker 1: gonna go away pretty quick because guys are going to 441 00:23:37,200 --> 00:23:39,800 Speaker 1: continue to use smelling sauce. You're going to still see 442 00:23:40,720 --> 00:23:43,359 Speaker 1: you you might just see another player holding it, you know, 443 00:23:43,440 --> 00:23:46,000 Speaker 1: or whether it's a practice squad guy or guy that's injured, 444 00:23:46,280 --> 00:23:48,920 Speaker 1: you know, carrying it around. But guys are going to 445 00:23:48,960 --> 00:23:50,720 Speaker 1: get the smelling salt and they're gonna be ready to 446 00:23:50,720 --> 00:23:53,600 Speaker 1: play because that helps with their performance and helps them 447 00:23:53,800 --> 00:23:55,359 Speaker 1: get their mind right and ready to play in the 448 00:23:55,440 --> 00:23:58,639 Speaker 1: National Football League. So I think it's a non story. 449 00:23:58,880 --> 00:24:01,960 Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to the game today. As always, I 450 00:24:02,040 --> 00:24:04,640 Speaker 1: appreciate you joining me. 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