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Speaker 1: Good morning everyone, and welcome to a week four edition

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Speaker 1: of Between the Horns, our Thursday morning social and digital

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Speaker 1: preview show. It's also becomes a podcast, so if you're

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Speaker 1: listening there, thanks for subscribing and downloading. My name is JB. Long,

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Speaker 1: voice of your Los Angeles Rams, saying good morning to

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Speaker 1: team reporter Serena Morella. How are you, Serena? I'm hanging

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Speaker 1: in there. How are you doing? Good? Thank you? And

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Speaker 1: from New York, he's already done. Good morning football, Peter Schrager.

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Speaker 1: Are we holding you up from your lunch break? No,

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Speaker 1: We're all good, and I am excited to talk some

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Speaker 1: Rams football with you guys from the East Coast this morning. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you're sending the O and three Giants our way. Sunday.

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Speaker 1: It's so Fi Stadium only these second Rams home game.

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Speaker 1: But first, I know it's tough to do. Let's go

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Speaker 1: back and revisit that painful loss in Buffalo the first

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Speaker 1: of the season. Serenda that the Rams had taken for sure,

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Speaker 1: and I mean this was a loss, but it was

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Speaker 1: an impressive comeback right from twenty five points down. The

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Speaker 1: Rams fell short. They lost thirty five thirty two, but

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Speaker 1: I think we can all agree there are some positives

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Speaker 1: that we can take from this loss. Mcvass that he

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Speaker 1: learned a lot about this team's mental toughness since joining

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Speaker 1: the Rams. I see way more of a twenty eighteen

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Speaker 1: team than a twenty nineteen team. Dregs, What do you think? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I look, there's so much positive to be taken from

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Speaker 1: It doesn't even feel that much like a loss when

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Speaker 1: you're down twenty eight to three and you rally to

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Speaker 1: take a lead and then some things happened. Look, could

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Speaker 1: you have stopped a third and twenty two to Cole Beasley? Sure?

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Speaker 1: But could the pass interference call have gone a different way? Yes?

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Speaker 1: I don't know if that necessarily would be getting as

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Speaker 1: much overlooking on this one if the different fan bases

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Speaker 1: were the recipients of that call. It is what it is.

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Speaker 1: I think the Rams know that that's not going to

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Speaker 1: be the case every week, and you don't want to

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Speaker 1: fall back twenty to three and go what a comeback?

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Speaker 1: It's almost a good loss if you put it that way. Well,

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Speaker 1: a good opponent to lose too, as well, an AFC

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Speaker 1: opponent in this NFC heavy stretch to open the season.

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Speaker 1: Serena on the plus side, I think it was Jared

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Speaker 1: Goff's best game. It was his most challenging game, and

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Speaker 1: he rose to the occasion. I think relative health still

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Speaker 1: has to be taken into account here, both in terms

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Speaker 1: of COVID nineteen as we're seeing around the league, but

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Speaker 1: also just in terms of the general physical injury report.

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Speaker 1: The Rams are in great shape concerning items at a loss.

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Speaker 1: I think a lack of an edge rush is rearing

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Speaker 1: gonna say it every week until it changes. The most

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Speaker 1: disappointing special teams play in the NFL. And I'm not

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Speaker 1: saying that that specifically cost the Rams week three, but

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Speaker 1: until it turns around, it's going to leave the Rams

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Speaker 1: in a vulnerable position. So you put that AFC loss

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Speaker 1: NFC West, which is once again the best division in football, Schreeger.

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Speaker 1: As you see it from a national level, Are the Cardinals, Seahawks, Niners,

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Speaker 1: And I would argue it's the best division in all

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Speaker 1: the Rams. For those other teams as well. Cardinals lost

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Speaker 1: of division games. Sure, I actually think that there's some

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Speaker 1: him the most sack hugs possible. Eighty has twelve sacks

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Speaker 1: welcoming the Rams to leave my stadium, Serena. So let's

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Speaker 1: turn our attention to the Rams high powered offense, which

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Speaker 1: think there were a lot of Rams fans who said, hey,

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Speaker 1: you know Todd Gurley, he was our guy who did

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Speaker 1: be fine without him? They're fine without him, And there's

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Speaker 1: nothing against Todd. We love Todd, and he's in Atlanta

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Speaker 1: and he's flourishing as a starter. But like, this offense

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Speaker 1: he's gonna do it himself. So the offense is balanced.

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Speaker 1: And I'm gonna get Kevin O'Connell as much credit as

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Speaker 1: Sean McVay because he's downing it up and Jared looks

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Speaker 1: really dialed in. Oh go ahead, JB. No, no you first, Serena,

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Speaker 1: I was gonna make the comparisons. Do you remember those

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Speaker 1: an upgrade. Don't date yourself, Serena, what was your best

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Speaker 1: he's scurvy? How do we do? But just on that

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Speaker 1: the Rams are capable, both in terms of their offensive

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Speaker 1: I think that's really been born out in their results

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Speaker 1: offense on or ahead of schedule. It's mail bag time,

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Speaker 1: right JV. Let's go here. I found one from Joe

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Speaker 1: Bonfiglio on Twitter. He wrote, I think Jared Goff is

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Speaker 1: he'll start getting the respect he's earned? Peter, you want

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Speaker 1: don't think Jared golf should care. He makes the money,

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Speaker 1: It's not going to happen. The fan bases that matter,

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Speaker 1: the Rams and the intelligent ones that watch the games,

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Speaker 1: No Jared could deliver, and the haters are gonna hate. It.

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Speaker 1: Just is what it is. And Golf, I'm sorry he

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Speaker 1: credit when it's due. JB. Peter, do you think it's

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Speaker 1: because you guys see Jared, you know they're respect and

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Speaker 1: still dismiss him on our show on NFL Network, on ESPN, everywhere.

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Speaker 1: It's just he's not considered in that same caliber. Ever,

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Speaker 1: Like Kyler Murray's already been crowned, and you don't ever

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Speaker 1: more things of Jared coming into this season, taking away

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Speaker 1: because everything was not a controlled, favorable circumstance. There were

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Speaker 1: muddy pockets. He had to wait for some longer developing

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Speaker 1: almost immaculately. And luck the guys he's gone up against

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Speaker 1: meant of these quarterbacks in this tier, this category that

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Speaker 1: we like to compare him to Dak wentz Alan, and

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Speaker 1: I think the case can be made he'd outplayed all

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Speaker 1: most important thing, is Peter touched on from a Rams

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Speaker 1: say the future looks even brighter for Jared Gough, not

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Speaker 1: just because of his potential, but because of some of

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Speaker 1: the upcoming defenses. The New York Giants are thirtieth in coverage,

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Speaker 1: they're signing corners off their practice squad and the Raiders

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Speaker 1: behind them is currently twenty fifth. So ultimately, I think

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Speaker 1: the comparisons that matter most for Jared Goff are the

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Speaker 1: ones in the division. It's Garoppolo, it's Russell, it's Kyler,

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Speaker 1: picks for the week. Just to recap last week, Robert

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