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Speaker 1: Then we'll talk about the twenty twenty seven draft and
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Speaker 1: you doing, man, I'm feeling good. I'm smelling like Choco's
Speaker 1: from the weekend.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 4: We had barbecue, you know, and I'm glad we had
Speaker 4: the conversation about, you know, the barbecue because call me Neanderthal,
Speaker 4: called me a guy like to do it the the
Speaker 4: original way.
Speaker 3: People with gas grills. We'll never get along.
Speaker 2: I'll tell you what. This was definitely a hot time
Speaker 2: I've been in the comments.
Speaker 3: No, no, no, because it's true. Like I've had people
Speaker 3: say smooth, come to my barbecue, and I'd.
Speaker 4: Be like, I'm not doing anything, said yeah, I stopped through,
Speaker 4: and I stopped through it.
Speaker 3: I come in the backyard and my homewoy be like, yeah, man,
Speaker 3: come on through. I got the grill of going and
Speaker 3: it's a gas grill. I politely turn around, I say bye.
Speaker 2: And I leave and you never talk to them again.
Speaker 4: No, they can come to my house where I got
Speaker 4: the wood chips, I got the colds going, like I'm
Speaker 4: so deep in it.
Speaker 3: I would go seek out certain.
Speaker 4: Wood from like plum trees or fruit trees, pear trees,
Speaker 4: all really to really get that flavor going in there.
Speaker 3: So that's what we do down in Mississippi.
Speaker 4: Mississippi, I don't know why we don't get the prouce
Speaker 4: for barbecue. One of the best pieces of barbecue you
Speaker 4: ever eat, Mississippi.
Speaker 1: What if I invi you over for barbecue and then
Speaker 1: I pulled some some like hamburgers out of the microwave.
Speaker 4: I'm not gonna eat it, Like I'd be like, just
Speaker 4: have mere beer miney you like I'm still here, Like
Speaker 4: I'm just I'm gonna come here for the state for
Speaker 4: thirty minutes because I know I don't want to eat
Speaker 4: the food, right like, so I'm not gonna say anything crazy.
Speaker 4: I'm just gonna be I might look at you a
Speaker 4: certain way. That's propane, so I'm giving you sickness. They propane. Yeah, man, propane.
Speaker 1: Look at this grill like, well, you know what here
Speaker 1: in the next couple of years, it might be some
Speaker 1: barbecues before the NFL draft?
Speaker 2: Are you kidding me? Twenty twenty seven on the National Mall.
Speaker 1: I wanted to say this came out of nowhere, but
Speaker 1: it felt right once we heard the stadium site possibly
Speaker 1: on the rfk's very close to happening, not official just yet.
Speaker 2: So this just all makes sense.
Speaker 3: No, it's just one thing at to another. We are
Speaker 3: coming back into the fold. It's best you can.
Speaker 4: The nation's capital has always been been one of the
Speaker 4: best places to host gigantic events like this, Like if
Speaker 4: anybody prepared for it, it's DC. DC is totally prepared
Speaker 4: for We got we got enough hotels between DC, Maryland
Speaker 4: and Northern Virginia. We got enough places for everybody to
Speaker 4: go to National Mall. It's used to holding dead amount
Speaker 4: of people. I'm gonna go out and see it right now.
Speaker 4: We're gonna break all the attendance records because we got
Speaker 4: too many major cities with major teams too close to us.
Speaker 2: They said, close to a million people.
Speaker 4: Maybe think about this. Let's not worry about California in
Speaker 4: the forty nine ers. Let's not worried about the Arizona Cardinals.
Speaker 4: You got the New York Giants.
Speaker 3: Market share with the Jets market driving four hours.
Speaker 4: You got Philadelphia driving two and a half hours. You
Speaker 4: got the Baltimore fans coming down forty five minutes.
Speaker 3: North Carolina's nowhere from here.
Speaker 4: You got so many football teams that's stuck in this
Speaker 4: hub right here. There's nowhere Pittsburgh nowhere from here. So
Speaker 4: at the end of the day, it's the perfect marriage.
Speaker 4: It's the perfect thing. I cannot wait. Not the only
Speaker 4: thing that will make that better. In twenty twenty seven.
Speaker 2: Oh, here we go.
Speaker 4: If they let the twenty sevens of the team do
Speaker 4: the second pick, which they should, which I woe to
Speaker 4: two seven. Brad Edward's water two seven, So we could
Speaker 4: walk out there together.
Speaker 3: Just imagine people out there and they Fred Schmooke comes
Speaker 3: out there.
Speaker 2: You do you that would be the loudest smooth you have.
Speaker 4: And guess what's gonna bleed into it? The Philly fans
Speaker 4: and the Cowboy fans in the New York Giants fans boo,
Speaker 4: and it's just gonna just electrify. They'll be able to
Speaker 4: hear that bull in Baltimore. Nothing would crank me up.
Speaker 4: You have to send out if you housing it and
Speaker 4: you're doing it at home, you got to send out
Speaker 4: some agitators. Oh yeah, you got to send the best
Speaker 4: agitators you ever had out there to really bring some life.
Speaker 4: And I would be privileged. I would be on.
Speaker 3: Your face like the joker like this.
Speaker 2: I'm like, I can already see your mind working. And
Speaker 2: the thing is, you got a couple of years to
Speaker 2: get ready.
Speaker 4: No, I don't need I hope it happy next sark
Speaker 4: and say you can do it now. It's just the energy.
Speaker 4: It's no energy is metched from an NFL crowd. And
Speaker 4: this NFL crowd is unlike any of the NFL crowd
Speaker 4: because they're not really there to go against each other.
Speaker 4: They're there at the party together. So it's it's this
Speaker 4: brotherhood of NFL fans. But then is The only time
Speaker 4: is the divide is when a draft pick is picked
Speaker 4: and it's in your division, so you're gonna boom them.
Speaker 4: But other than that, no, this is this is what
Speaker 4: the NFL been need right now.
Speaker 3: That backdrop with the Capitol, oh my god, and the monuments.
Speaker 2: You see the renderings.
Speaker 3: Yes, you can't beat that. Jinx man.
Speaker 4: Listen, all I know is I hope, I hope I
Speaker 4: make it to all the events.
Speaker 3: I should make it. I supposed to make it to
Speaker 3: that week because it's gonna be.
Speaker 2: A it's gonna be a tough week for you, a
Speaker 2: good way.
Speaker 3: It's gonna be a very tough week for me.
Speaker 4: Like I will be challenged that week, right, I will
Speaker 4: be challenged personally, I just be and professionally.
Speaker 3: Yes, I'm ready for it. I understand.
Speaker 4: That's why I say I need me and Brad Edwards
Speaker 4: two an interceptions in Super Bowl.
Speaker 3: Let us do it.
Speaker 1: And you do want to love about it too? Is
Speaker 1: that Roger Goodell like he's he used to go to
Speaker 1: game an RFK. Yes, so he wants football in DC
Speaker 1: to be relevant. He wants the draft to be here.
Speaker 1: He wants to take them to be at the RFK site.
Speaker 1: So when the commissioner is on your side. Yes, obviously that's.
Speaker 2: A huge deal.
Speaker 4: He's been here twice in the last month for the
Speaker 4: stadium announcements, sitting in there, hardy heart hard by golly.
Speaker 3: Then he comes right back for the draft.
Speaker 4: With the biggest smile on his face. Back in the
Speaker 4: nation's capital. This is where everything belongs. Man, Listen, I
Speaker 4: cannot wait. I think it's the perfect venue to throw
Speaker 4: it at. And I think the football fans are gonna
Speaker 4: be blown away about how fun and accessible DC is,
Speaker 4: and they are like, we're gonna make this much revenue.
Speaker 4: I look at the small people. Do you know how
Speaker 4: much a uber driver is gonna make that week?
Speaker 2: Oh my god, that week is gonna be crazy.
Speaker 3: First for you, mister uberman himself.
Speaker 2: You might not get to work, but I might not.
Speaker 2: Like what about me getting here, honey me?
Speaker 4: Now, I'm just saying, like, the small thing that people
Speaker 4: in DC are used to are gonna be hard to get.
Speaker 2: It's gonna be double everything.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's gonna be Stopbucks, I'm going to you want
Speaker 3: some coffee?
Speaker 4: Yeah, twenty people in that line at least, So every
Speaker 4: little minutia will be to the next level.
Speaker 3: So it's gonna be one of them tired.
Speaker 4: Well, I think the people that live in the city
Speaker 4: gonna have to adjust more than the people that's visiting.
Speaker 1: And you know, people have different ideas about what DC
Speaker 1: is like. You need to be great for other people
Speaker 1: to come and actually experie it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, because when people say DC, they never say water, right,
Speaker 4: they never say water. Well, we were sitting on a
Speaker 4: ton of it, right. Bolding is a big thing every Sunday,
Speaker 4: and say it.
Speaker 3: I'm usually bolden.
Speaker 2: I started to say, you'll roll up in Georgia.
Speaker 4: Yeah, listen for Toma. I'm usually on it. Do you
Speaker 4: know what that water gonna look like that weekend? How
Speaker 4: many people gonna be bringing their boats out?
Speaker 3: It's going to be insane. I cannot wait.
Speaker 2: How was Franklin Hall?
Speaker 3: Oh money?
Speaker 2: You gotta tell me others.
Speaker 1: By the way, if you're interested in the stadium news
Speaker 1: the very latest, you can get it at Commanders dot
Speaker 1: com slash new Stadium.
Speaker 2: So I watched the podcast, Yeah, I wasn't being there.
Speaker 4: First of all. It was a great podcast, great crowd,
Speaker 4: but we had some discrepancies going on scenes. Okay, you know,
Speaker 4: we were doing the show.
Speaker 5: Fred's feelings were hurt.
Speaker 2: What happened?
Speaker 5: He's not off the bench.
Speaker 6: I'm not.
Speaker 3: I thought I was Jamal Crawford. Yeah, I'm not all right.
Speaker 4: I'm being a start of my whole life. And see,
Speaker 4: we were supposed to set up the show for five. Okay,
Speaker 4: it's me Logan B Mitch Tanner BC.
Speaker 3: Okay. A couple of mics didn't work, so we had
Speaker 3: to rotate.
Speaker 4: Okay, So we were sitting over there on the bench
Speaker 4: while the other guy was starting the show off.
Speaker 3: And I'm over there talking to the logan like you
Speaker 3: used to this, ain't you? I like to start and
Speaker 3: in that thing. But isn't it?
Speaker 7: It was?
Speaker 4: It was very fun. We had fun, you know. We
Speaker 4: rag each other like that, so it was fun. It's
Speaker 4: always fun to get out there with the crowd, man
Speaker 4: and the people that support you. And sometimes I'm rather
Speaker 4: blown away and shocked about how many people tune in
Speaker 4: weekly to these shows, and people always telling me that's
Speaker 4: how I get through my job day just listening to
Speaker 4: y'all rend So I like how fan bases get to
Speaker 4: get this next level of entertainment when it comes to
Speaker 4: knowing stuff about their team.
Speaker 3: They don't have to tune into the national shows.
Speaker 4: That's gonna talk about your team three minutes, maybe only
Speaker 4: if something good or bad is happening.
Speaker 2: And they don't know the little nuances of the little things,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they don't know what goes on in the building.
Speaker 4: So I think for us to give them their information
Speaker 4: in them to give us how they feel back, you
Speaker 4: can't beat that.
Speaker 1: Plus, there's something about meeting fans and sometimes you get
Speaker 1: to put a name with it face.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, most definitely, because they know your face, they
Speaker 4: know your voice, they know everything. So it's always good
Speaker 4: to get that hand shake, that hug, let them know
Speaker 4: that we're a family.
Speaker 3: We're a football family.
Speaker 2: It works.
Speaker 5: Guys, be sure to stay tuned because there will be
Speaker 5: more events coming up throughout the month. We can't say
Speaker 5: anything too much about that LOUD, but I know we
Speaker 5: have stuff in the works forget LOUD. I know there's
Speaker 5: stuff in the works for ccpods, So tune. There's a
Speaker 5: lot of.
Speaker 4: Fun and we got some more live events coming up.
Speaker 4: I than I already did five six football camps. We
Speaker 4: got at least fifteen more. Like we're in the community,
Speaker 4: we outside the Commander's outside.
Speaker 3: It ain't nothing. We ain't touching right now.
Speaker 2: It's gonna be exciting and also exciting on this show.
Speaker 1: Tom Louganville coming up here in a few minutes, so
Speaker 1: he'll talk about the Commander's draft picks. So let's do
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Speaker 2: So Anna likes to peruse cddit well the youth.
Speaker 5: Which I'm a rudder for talking about, recommend praising, read
Speaker 5: it all the time for the record, I don't know
Speaker 5: if it's not healthy.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna say I used to be.
Speaker 4: A big ready guy, but kind of you know, as
Speaker 4: you get older. Yeah, you don't want to all that noise.
Speaker 2: There's a lot of noise.
Speaker 3: You like everything to quiet down.
Speaker 4: Because the one thing about Reddy, it's meant to go
Speaker 4: back and forth like it's meant to challenge each other. Yeah, verbally,
Speaker 4: writing word is meant to be that stage.
Speaker 1: So you got to know what fight you're getting into.
Speaker 1: The fight usually goes you're making a point, I make
Speaker 1: a contraririon point. You don't like it, So here comes
Speaker 1: the insult like almost immediately, what's cool?
Speaker 4: You went to right, they ain't teaching nothing is this combative,
Speaker 4: But sometimes you need that help.
Speaker 3: They war going inside.
Speaker 5: You got to be careful. But I think something we
Speaker 5: found on Reddit. I found was this NFC East position
Speaker 5: rankings chart. Shout out to whoever made it. I don't
Speaker 5: know if you tuned into the podcast, but had to
Speaker 5: take a look. And the first thing I want to
Speaker 5: comment on, because we were talking about this in the
Speaker 5: office before we walked in, it was the wide receiver
Speaker 5: position group. Looks like the Cowboys are working on something
Speaker 5: with the Steelers. We're taping this on.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's almost slily, it's our most complete.
Speaker 5: We think that position group we have Eagles, Commanders, Cowboys, giants.
Speaker 5: Do we think anything changes in that ranking?
Speaker 6: All? Right?
Speaker 4: When George Pickens and cd Lamb hookup, I think that's
Speaker 4: a good different core. Now you've got your tall rigs,
Speaker 4: one guy that can also get deep.
Speaker 3: You got Ceedee Lamb. Now, I think.
Speaker 4: When the numbers come at the end of the year,
Speaker 4: George Pickens numbers might be very similar to what he
Speaker 4: did in Pittsburgh, while cdee.
Speaker 3: Lamb number explodes. Yeah, because the double team gone. They
Speaker 3: can't double team him anymore, all right.
Speaker 4: And now I hear from Schadheimen that they want to
Speaker 4: run the ball more. So it's gonna be more play action,
Speaker 4: all right. So he gonna get his on the big plays.
Speaker 4: He gonna get his underneath Cede Lamb.
Speaker 1: Well, does that change because right here, at least in
Speaker 1: this reddit list, Yeah, he got Eagles number one receiving corps,
Speaker 1: which I get that.
Speaker 3: I get it. Super Bowl winners right, then you.
Speaker 1: Have us, then you have Dallas, but this is Dallas
Speaker 1: before George Pickens. You have the Cowboys getting pickings. Does
Speaker 1: that move them ahead? Other commanders are now?
Speaker 3: All right?
Speaker 4: Terry pro bowler, he d bow Ben a pro bowler, Ben,
Speaker 4: all pro. George Pickers never been a pro bowler, all pro.
Speaker 1: He said, three seasons. Some would say he's underachieved a
Speaker 1: little bit. Potential is there? Ceiling is there?
Speaker 6: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Also he's a psychopathy.
Speaker 4: I caen say, the the person inside like the person inside.
Speaker 3: And we've seen this story before when it comes to Pittsburgh.
Speaker 4: Pittsburgh is ran so good from the top down, and
Speaker 4: Tumbley does such a good job. Kind of keeping people
Speaker 4: misfits in order.
Speaker 1: Well, that's the thing too, is that if any coach
Speaker 1: I feel like is equipped to handle any play that
Speaker 1: might be a misfit, moulcontent, it's Mike Thomas's Mike Thomas.
Speaker 1: So if the Steelers say, you know what, we don't
Speaker 1: want to do this anymore, how do you think that's
Speaker 1: going to play elsewhere?
Speaker 4: All right, let's go through some receivers that played at
Speaker 4: Pittsburgh that eventually left. I think it's only one that
Speaker 4: actually career went that way, and that's Plexico Burds.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 6: Ye.
Speaker 4: Now you look at the other guys that leave that
Speaker 4: got a little baggage their career because Pittsburgh is so stable,
Speaker 4: they don't usually blossom in other places. So you got
Speaker 4: to bring that in to perspective also. But is it
Speaker 4: good for DAK Yeah? Is it good for CD LAB Yeah?
Speaker 4: But I think it's contrarion, like you, what's your cup
Speaker 4: of tea? Because we're more closer to Philadelphia than we.
Speaker 3: Are the Cowboys.
Speaker 4: As a wide receiver, absolutely, yeah, So Terry and Debo
Speaker 4: compare more to those guys than they do to these.
Speaker 3: I think when you mix in the quarterback, we still
Speaker 3: stay at too.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think so yeah, yeah, I think if you
Speaker 4: mix in and say, you know what, well, who got
Speaker 4: the better quarterback?
Speaker 3: Since they so even we got the better pla.
Speaker 1: I'd love to see MacCaffrey step up to and be
Speaker 1: a guy who contributes to which he absolutely can.
Speaker 3: And don't forget we got lame, like we got some dudes.
Speaker 4: Dudes now in here, you know, like we have a
Speaker 4: chance to have a way around the group because we
Speaker 4: got to force multiplier. When you got to force multiply
Speaker 4: your quarterback, you don't need to have the best wide.
Speaker 3: Receiving in football.
Speaker 4: I always say, since Jerry Rice the best for our receiving,
Speaker 4: football ain't really one super Bowl.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess that's true.
Speaker 4: Well that just like I have this argument out of
Speaker 4: time with Logan about edge rushes.
Speaker 3: Okay, what would you rather have an edge ied D
Speaker 3: tackle dominant?
Speaker 1: I would say I bet Logan says as and you
Speaker 1: say to the tackle, Yeah.
Speaker 4: As a defensive player, think about it. What top three
Speaker 4: detac I mean, edge Russia has won the Super Bowl
Speaker 4: last fifteen.
Speaker 2: Years, bon Miller, that's it.
Speaker 4: Now, let's go D tackles Aaron Donald, Chris Jones, the
Speaker 4: shortest way to the quarterback is right there, right, And
Speaker 4: if I disrupt.
Speaker 3: In the middle, it takes longer to get around the edge.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Like if I got disrupted in the middle, I
Speaker 4: stopped the run game in the past game.
Speaker 2: The Eagles defensive line for the Jay call.
Speaker 4: Yeah, like every time I look up. But guess who
Speaker 4: they had on the edge sweat. These guys are not
Speaker 4: top ten edge rushing. They just got paid, like because
Speaker 4: everybody got this misconception in their head. If you ain't
Speaker 4: got no edge, you got no pass rush. No give
Speaker 4: me interior pass rush, and I could dominate the game.
Speaker 1: When you look at tight end ring. Yeah, so they
Speaker 1: have zach Ertz ahead of Dallas Goddard. Gallard looks like
Speaker 1: he's going to resign with Philadelphia.
Speaker 2: You agree, I agree?
Speaker 4: Yeah, all right, And I know they got to make
Speaker 4: that is God to feel bad because I kind of
Speaker 4: pushed you out of town and you still establish yourself
Speaker 4: as the best tight end in NFC.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so they heard a little bit.
Speaker 4: But he did have more touchdown catches, more clutch catches,
Speaker 4: So yeah, I could see why they graded it. But
Speaker 4: me and you are shocked because.
Speaker 3: Of the youth.
Speaker 2: I think that's what it is more of anything else.
Speaker 4: Yeah, because Dalla Godda is younger, you would think you
Speaker 4: would pick him, right.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Like and Theo Johnson not a bad tight end in
Speaker 4: New York. Theo can play. So it's some guys there.
Speaker 4: But I'm not shocked about that, now I am. I
Speaker 4: wouldn't say I'm shocked, but think about this. Out of
Speaker 4: position them. Let's say, out of the number one spot,
Speaker 4: we got quarterback, we got tight end, we got linebacker,
Speaker 4: we got a head coach.
Speaker 3: There's more top spots than the Eagles.
Speaker 2: Who made this list. Uh, you not knocking him. I'm
Speaker 2: just saying, like you have to take that into account.
Speaker 4: No, tear maker. He might not be a Washington fan.
Speaker 4: Are you trying to say he's a Washington fan?
Speaker 3: Oh?
Speaker 5: I have no idea.
Speaker 3: I have no idea.
Speaker 2: We just found it.
Speaker 5: I fully pulled this from like I said, read it
Speaker 5: they You know, I think if you're looking at this,
Speaker 5: you're looking at it through the lens of a Commanders fan.
Speaker 5: Commander's fan, Eagles one super Bowl. I mean, if we're
Speaker 5: looking at quarterbacks.
Speaker 3: We got quarterback. We got the better quarterback. Now, then't
Speaker 3: think I running back.
Speaker 5: I think is the kind of no brainer.
Speaker 4: No, this is why I say this thing might be
Speaker 4: made by an equal fan that probably took a couple
Speaker 4: of votes from his homeboys.
Speaker 3: Homegirl. Check this out.
Speaker 4: Look at the second line, that's all Eagles. That means
Speaker 4: they just deeper than everybody. Like, think about it. At
Speaker 4: number two, they got the number two quarterback, they got
Speaker 4: the number two tighty end, They got the number two
Speaker 4: D line, which to me, they got the number one
Speaker 4: D line.
Speaker 3: We can we can debate that.
Speaker 5: Maybe are they I wonder if they're rating it on
Speaker 5: like individual players.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they know it's the group.
Speaker 2: What about DQ had a Syriani.
Speaker 1: It's like you got the ring, you've been to two
Speaker 1: super Bowls, you got one, but also you're not as
Speaker 1: beloved by your play.
Speaker 3: Like it's like.
Speaker 4: It's something it's a love hate relationship. It feels like
Speaker 4: to me, the city will feel of death. You say
Speaker 4: we're gonna hold on to you as long as you win.
Speaker 4: It like it don't seem to It's like, if you're winning,
Speaker 4: all right, all right, but after this, we don't have
Speaker 4: your back no matter what.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Like it don't feel like a marriage.
Speaker 2: He was chirping an Eagles fans at.
Speaker 3: The beginning of the season.
Speaker 4: Yeah, like, and I understand why, like they hard on
Speaker 4: their own, but it seemed to be something you know,
Speaker 4: how you go out with a couple and they trying
Speaker 4: not to but they right, but then they yeah, then
Speaker 4: they turn around and say, yeah, we ain't never had
Speaker 4: a better happy six years and that, like I can't,
Speaker 4: so come on, come on, like no, So it seems
Speaker 4: to be a little tight marriage there. But everything else
Speaker 4: safety cornerback. I can't believe they gave Daly's the cornerback position.
Speaker 4: Is it because of Reveil?
Speaker 2: I guess Blaine.
Speaker 4: When you got Blad, you got digs, but they got
Speaker 4: cooping the Jean they got Quinn Mitchell, Quinn, you on Mitchell.
Speaker 3: Maybe they just saying that that is Cowboys veterans out.
Speaker 1: That's the one thing where I was like, am I
Speaker 1: not familiar enough with the Cowboys secondary?
Speaker 2: I feel like that should not be number.
Speaker 5: Maybe they felt like they needed to give the Cowboys fans.
Speaker 2: Saundy threw them a bone.
Speaker 5: Yeah, well, I'm happy that.
Speaker 4: Was pretty much the only bone you could have threw them.
Speaker 4: But I can't say this their draft.
Speaker 2: You're really hot in their draft.
Speaker 4: I was so high on they draft, Like, I'm not
Speaker 4: gonna hate on lit Jerra litt Jerer can draft.
Speaker 3: Yeah, lit Jerer can draft. Now I give him that.
Speaker 3: Now he can draft some players.
Speaker 1: Well, let's see what you got saying, voicemail and email time.
Speaker 1: Give us a call seven or three seven, two six, seven,
Speaker 1: four one nine. Also, Washington, get loud at you melt come.
Speaker 5: Yes, Well, you guys will have to tell us what
Speaker 5: you think about this position rankings list. Like I said,
Speaker 5: I think, yeah, there's some things that can be disagreed upon.
Speaker 2: But well that's what the listener is interesting.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that's what the listen is for. But they
Speaker 3: also tell you the NFC East is back. And I
Speaker 3: hate to tell people this.
Speaker 4: We are only good when all of us good. This
Speaker 4: is not one of those divisions that plays well when
Speaker 4: just one team is good. Like you can go back
Speaker 4: to the eighties, the nineties. We're all good at the
Speaker 4: same time. And that's right a iron.
Speaker 1: And man, that's when that's when the competition, that's when
Speaker 1: it's really excit.
Speaker 4: That's when this becomes what is always being And this
Speaker 4: the NFC East is a beast.
Speaker 5: Love it, love it, love it, love it. Well, moving
Speaker 5: on to a little bit more of a draft centered discussion.
Speaker 5: We got an email from a fan that said, Hey, Anna,
Speaker 5: Jenks and Fred, I hope everyone is doing well. I
Speaker 5: had a question for Fred. With his good cornerback eye,
Speaker 5: with the great coaching we have here now, could you
Speaker 5: see Trey emo is becoming the next Patrick Surtan the second.
Speaker 5: Thanks for your thought and if y'all ever need anything
Speaker 5: in the seven five seven, just let me know. Born
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Speaker 5: I be.
Speaker 4: En Richmond at dayre Green's golf tournament the weekend of
Speaker 4: the seventeenth and Monday the eighteenth, so I'll be close
Speaker 4: to the five seventy five.
Speaker 3: But uh, I.
Speaker 5: Mean, what a pots.
Speaker 3: That's tough. You don't do that to people like you know,
Speaker 3: it's almost.
Speaker 1: You're setting the bar, Like I understand that's the ideal,
Speaker 1: But when you're setting the bar as arguably the best
Speaker 1: in the game, that's a tough part.
Speaker 4: Say don't do that. Let him get in the mix first.
Speaker 4: Let's see him run with his teammates. Do we got talent?
Speaker 4: Is he long light pass? Certain?
Speaker 6: Oh?
Speaker 3: Yeah, all the ingredients are there.
Speaker 4: They don't make it a big man just because you
Speaker 4: got two all beat patters in the seventh seed bunk.
Speaker 3: They do not make that a bit.
Speaker 2: This saw is not special.
Speaker 3: It doesn't make it a big mach because it looks
Speaker 3: the same. Right.
Speaker 4: So what I'm saying is when past certain came together,
Speaker 4: he was not the best corner he developed his way
Speaker 4: into that. Did he always have a high ceiling, Yes
Speaker 4: he did. Does Amos have a high ceiling? Yes he does.
Speaker 4: But let's not start there. Let's just try to make
Speaker 4: him number one a month's his draft, Piers, let's start
Speaker 4: there first, because you're talking about Travis Hunter, something we
Speaker 4: haven't seen since Dion Sanders. Right now you're talking about
Speaker 4: Will Johnson, who I thought shouldn't have failed in the draft.
Speaker 2: I'm surprised that we're both high on him.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, So it's guys in this draft being I think
Speaker 4: he has a chance to be good, maybe great. That
Speaker 4: depends on how he focuses on his everyday practice compared
Speaker 4: to his everyday play like Ken Junior.
Speaker 3: Get it out of him? Yes he can. Is he
Speaker 3: a Joe Whit guy? Yes? He is? Now what we
Speaker 3: gonna he got a high floor. Let's see how fiut
Speaker 3: of this ceiling go?
Speaker 2: Do you have any voicemails.
Speaker 5: Yes, we do. Let me cue them up. We actually
Speaker 5: got quite a few this this time around, so we'll
Speaker 5: have to kind of rapid fire for the first. We're
Speaker 5: gonna we're gonna hit We're gonna hit three.
Speaker 2: Oh okay, all right, let's go.
Speaker 5: Let's do this first voicemail. Oh sorry, a live stream.
Speaker 5: Let me know.
Speaker 3: It's time to go out after one day in college.
Speaker 2: That's so embarrassing.
Speaker 8: Hey, what's going on, James and Fred? My name is
Speaker 8: Dennis and I'm calling it all the way from Memphis, Tennessee,
Speaker 8: of your stumping grounds. Fred.
Speaker 6: Yes, uh, we have a crazy thought here.
Speaker 8: The kid we drifted in the sixth round, Cain Madrino
Speaker 8: for some crazy reason. Wait, he plays. He reminds me
Speaker 8: of Frank Gene from the Philadelphia Filthy Dumphia Eagles. Do
Speaker 8: you feel the same way the way they play? They
Speaker 8: seem similar with their playing styles. Well, that's all I
Speaker 8: really have to say, and that's it. Hell to the commanders.
Speaker 4: Yes, I had many fun days in old Memphis, ten Oh,
Speaker 4: I bet you, yes, old Memphis talking about barbecue, blues
Speaker 4: and music.
Speaker 2: We're got new podcast, off the record, Off.
Speaker 3: The record, Fred and jinks. Listen, he is. His athletic
Speaker 3: profile jumps off the page.
Speaker 1: Doesn't he seem like more he's built more like a
Speaker 1: strong safety.
Speaker 4: Yes, but he's rough enough to play live backer, and he's.
Speaker 3: Like he's an oddity.
Speaker 4: He's one of these dudes where I think they got
Speaker 4: him just so they could be a list star our
Speaker 4: position for by this hybrid linebacker hybrid safety position, because
Speaker 4: he can play shockingly.
Speaker 3: He fast enough to play the middle of the field
Speaker 3: if he wanted to.
Speaker 2: He was the fastest of the combody.
Speaker 4: Yeah, fast than some safeties, some corners like his athletic
Speaker 4: pro me and me and Logan were watching the play
Speaker 4: where they throw this quick screen to the to the
Speaker 4: offensive left. He is rushing the passer from the opposite side.
Speaker 4: He stops rushing the pastor by the time this guy
Speaker 4: catches this screen, he has already be lying. By the
Speaker 4: time this dude gets two yards, he's peeling his cap.
Speaker 3: Damn, you don't see that he is.
Speaker 4: He's a Do you want to be a tad bit
Speaker 4: more physical, Yes, with to get that out of him.
Speaker 3: But do I think he can add to this team
Speaker 3: this year? I do.
Speaker 4: For some odd reason, I think they got a legit
Speaker 4: plan for him. They drafted him with a legit purpose.
Speaker 4: So yeah, I think he's gonna be a fan favorite.
Speaker 3: In no time.
Speaker 2: Anytime you add speed, I'm always a fan.
Speaker 3: Of that speed side screen. He's aggressive. He could do
Speaker 3: like this, he could he could do everything all three levels.
Speaker 4: He can cover in the back end, he could tackle
Speaker 4: like a linebacker.
Speaker 3: He can rush the passer. He can do pretty much
Speaker 3: everything you need to do.
Speaker 5: Love to hear that. All right, We ready for our
Speaker 5: next one?
Speaker 8: Hey, Fred Jenkson, And and how y'all doing? Is freend
Speaker 8: from Florida?
Speaker 6: Man?
Speaker 3: Great now?
Speaker 8: I was just wanting your input on a couple of guys.
Speaker 8: I was Johnny Newton and Kawhan Martin. Uh, because I'm
Speaker 8: I'm in Florida now, but I grew up.
Speaker 7: In Illinois, and uh, it was wondering what kind of
Speaker 7: impact those guys might have this year for us.
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Speaker 8: Love y'all keep up the great show.
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Speaker 3: He just made me hung up.
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Speaker 3: He almost in at the show like a country bomb sauce.
Speaker 2: Listen, that's it around.
Speaker 3: That's probably made by a dude named Bob.
Speaker 4: That's all good, guess. But he was asking about Johnny
Speaker 4: Newton Kuwan Martin. I think Johnny knew gonna take that
Speaker 4: next step.
Speaker 2: Oh don't you think?
Speaker 1: Sober took him a while to get right because he
Speaker 1: had two years two injured.
Speaker 4: So anytime a player coming, That's why I was easy
Speaker 4: on Marshall Atlantimo. Anytime you injured, going to a new defense,
Speaker 4: and it's just gonna be a you're trying to maintain,
Speaker 4: you trying to survive. Now they're finna move past survival.
Speaker 4: They're finna try to dominate. And that's the thing.
Speaker 3: And Qun.
Speaker 4: I have been trying to figure out my match for
Speaker 4: Qun because Quan is one of them dudes. He just
Speaker 4: does everything good, like nothing is great, renaissance man. Everything good.
Speaker 4: You need me to tell I do that good? You
Speaker 4: need me to come out do that good? You want
Speaker 4: me down in the box, I do that good like
Speaker 4: and he gonna sacrifice every pound he got. Like the
Speaker 4: one thing we know Kwan ain't afraid of is contact.
Speaker 4: People don't understand last year, I think he was playing
Speaker 4: with two dislocated shoulders, right, but he's still.
Speaker 3: Running back interceptions against Detroit Lions. So I think we.
Speaker 4: Got something with kuwyn More like we got some with Corn.
Speaker 4: We got something with John Newton. Now it's time for
Speaker 4: them to take it all the way to the next level.
Speaker 4: Like he reminds me of a faster I can't say
Speaker 4: he is physical. Okay, maybe it's the number twenty that's
Speaker 4: throwing me out, but it's a little Brian Dawkins in
Speaker 4: crime more.
Speaker 3: Oh okay, it's a little Brian Dawks.
Speaker 4: Brian Dawkins he ruined my whole career every time we
Speaker 4: played the like I thought it was two Brian Dawkers
Speaker 4: out there.
Speaker 3: The first thing the set.
Speaker 4: Could play and he could really get down make plays
Speaker 4: and just just somebody that he brings a tempo he
Speaker 4: brings ain't good to the gether.
Speaker 2: That's a that's a like a football player.
Speaker 3: Listen.
Speaker 4: I remember the first time we went to the philadel
Speaker 4: w Stadium. He crowled out of the tunnel like Wolverine.
Speaker 4: I ain't never seen nothing like.
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Speaker 2: Colorado University.
Speaker 1: Oh, still getting it done. And now, look, we were
Speaker 1: talking about these young guns. Let's talk about it even
Speaker 1: more with Tom Lougan Bill.
Speaker 2: Let's bring him in now.
Speaker 1: Scout and college football analysts for sirius XM and ESPN.
Speaker 2: You know Tom louganvill We've had him on the show before.
Speaker 2: You've seen him all over the place. Tom, First of all,
Speaker 2: thanks for being with us.
Speaker 1: And second of all, I just wanted to get sort
Speaker 1: of your general thought on the Commander's Draft as a
Speaker 1: whole before we ask about individual players.
Speaker 6: Well, listen, I think what's interesting is when you look
Speaker 6: at this draft, in these five selections, three of the
Speaker 6: five you would easily call college football journeyman. When you
Speaker 6: look at their path and how they developed and got
Speaker 6: from point A to point B, it's all about player development.
Speaker 6: And I think there is a really interesting background for
Speaker 6: these guys that probably made it a lot of fun
Speaker 6: for the personnel department to really dive deep and figure out. Okay,
Speaker 6: we've got three guys who are three time transfers that
Speaker 6: have all of these unique backgrounds and their development from
Speaker 6: let's just say an FCS program to playing in you know,
Speaker 6: the defunct Pact twelve, a group of five programs, and
Speaker 6: then all of a sudden starting with Alabama and old myths.
Speaker 6: You don't see a ton of that. You're gonna start
Speaker 6: seeing more of it. But for Washington, this was what
Speaker 6: their draft is all about.
Speaker 4: Tell them, do you feel that they want the people
Speaker 4: that have been through adversity?
Speaker 3: They didn't want.
Speaker 4: People that had been you know, to see it with
Speaker 4: spoon handed to them, because every time I look at
Speaker 4: these guys, even when I look at Cunney, it went
Speaker 4: always easy for Connely. Like the thing about it, I
Speaker 4: think they want guys that've been through the process, guys
Speaker 4: that haven't been through it like a lot, especially when
Speaker 4: they talk about team leaders and team cap is like that.
Speaker 4: Do you do you see the ingredients on what they
Speaker 4: say a command that he is.
Speaker 6: Yeah, because I think there's a little bit of a
Speaker 6: chip on the shoulder of each of these guys, you know,
Speaker 6: particularly the ones that have been well traveled. They're they're
Speaker 6: constantly trying to upgrade and get better and worked against
Speaker 6: better people, play against better level of competition. I mean
Speaker 6: Jacorey Krofsky Merritt starts off at Alabama, State of all places, yep,
Speaker 6: and then somehow somehow ends up to Mexico and then
Speaker 6: somehow ends up at Arizona. Well, that's three different levels
Speaker 6: of competition, So you know he can acclimate, you know
Speaker 6: he can adjust, and the jump in talent wasn't something
Speaker 6: that was problematic Sometimes for guys it is. You say
Speaker 6: the same thing about Jaylen Lane. He goes to Middle Tennessee,
Speaker 6: a Middle Tennessee state, ends up at Virginia Tech, and
Speaker 6: then Trey Amos Louisiana, Alabama and Ole miss. I think
Speaker 6: there's a hunger there that would be attracted to me
Speaker 6: if I'm a coach or I'm a scout. You know,
Speaker 6: and you're and you're working through player evaluation, you're asking
Speaker 6: a lot of why why did this guy go in
Speaker 6: the portal? Why did this happen? Why did that happen?
Speaker 6: And if you can start checking the boxes and feel
Speaker 6: good about those answers, you're you're in good shape. Yeah.
Speaker 2: I see what you saying, Tom, How does that affect
Speaker 2: your job?
Speaker 1: Because you see a guy in high school, maybe he
Speaker 1: goes to a smaller school. How does that translate to
Speaker 1: a different school, to a different conference.
Speaker 2: How has it changed the way you evaluate guys?
Speaker 3: Got to be harder.
Speaker 6: Well, the problem with player evaluation at the high school
Speaker 6: level is you're dealing with so many unknown variables, right,
Speaker 6: I mean, and oftentimes it starts when they're fourteen years old,
Speaker 6: all the way up to graduation and they move on
Speaker 6: to college. Well, you know, in the National Football League
Speaker 6: you essentially have unlimited resources to uncover every possible red
Speaker 6: flag that could lead you to making a fifty million
Speaker 6: dollar mistake, right yep. In player evaluation of the high
Speaker 6: school player on behalf of college staffs, you know, you
Speaker 6: can do the best that you can, but there are rules.
Speaker 6: You don't get unlimited time with them. You're oftentimes now
Speaker 6: with the transfer portal, image and likeness, you're having to
Speaker 6: deal with handlers and it can be involved in the process.
Speaker 6: And it's hard to be more difficult at the high
Speaker 6: school level because unfortunately now it's all about money.
Speaker 3: Yep.
Speaker 6: They don't see the bigger picture. There's no identity with
Speaker 6: the program they're signing with. The many instances, it's you're
Speaker 6: not gonna have loyalty, there's not going to be passion
Speaker 6: for that team, because you're looking at it sheerly as
Speaker 6: a monetary stepping stone, because a lot of these kids
Speaker 6: are going, well, if I'm not happy there, I'll just
Speaker 6: leave yea, you know, because we've given we've given them
Speaker 6: the out to not have to be accountable for anything,
Speaker 6: not have to hold up there under the bargain. And
Speaker 6: that's tough to build team culture around when you have
Speaker 6: a bunch of young people that are throwing a lot
Speaker 6: of money, probably aren't prepared for it, don't have the
Speaker 6: support structure to handle it or navigate it, And then
Speaker 6: what does that do? That leads to bad decisions, And
Speaker 6: that's the thing that's become really dangerous. And player evaluation
Speaker 6: of the younger player, whether it's high school or college.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I feel you on there, Lupenberg.
Speaker 4: And when I look at this list that the AP combined,
Speaker 4: every player has something that you rarely get in the
Speaker 4: whole draft year. Like even when I got drafted, everybody
Speaker 4: from my draft players wasn't ready to play in ad
Speaker 4: to the team. When I look at this list of players,
Speaker 4: all five of these guys could help us win games
Speaker 4: this year, Like I think they can contribute to this
Speaker 4: team are we seeing the same thing?
Speaker 6: Yeah, you know, it's interesting. So I look at what's
Speaker 6: happened in the National Football League as the it's almost
Speaker 6: like it's come full circle.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 6: Ten years or so ago, everybody was saying, well, the
Speaker 6: running back position is devalued and everybody's going to the
Speaker 6: spread offense right, and now on defense, everybody said, well
Speaker 6: we got to get smaller, leaner, faster because the game's
Speaker 6: not played at a phone booth anymore. And now you
Speaker 6: look at how things have come back, and the running
Speaker 6: backs value has started to increase because people are now
Speaker 6: offensively saying, okay, well you're lighting the pants. On defense,
Speaker 6: yes you're fast, Yes you can run. Well, what happened
Speaker 6: if we line up in thirteen personnel and run the
Speaker 6: ball right at you, what are you going to do?
Speaker 6: And so you're seeing, you know, Baltimore has done this,
Speaker 6: Philadelphia's done this. I think a guy like to Corey
Speaker 6: krossky Merritt, because he's a pounder, he's a downhill runner,
Speaker 6: kind of fits that mentality of trying to reincorporate a
Speaker 6: power run game. So I think he brings potential value,
Speaker 6: especially in short yarded situations and the ability to just
Speaker 6: stick your nose in there and pound the rock. Listen,
Speaker 6: I think from a high profile perspective, when you take
Speaker 6: an offensive tackle, which is a premium position, in the
Speaker 6: first round, you're expecting that guy to contribute and play.
Speaker 6: You're expecting him to come in and not only be
Speaker 6: a factor, but you drafted him because you need an
Speaker 6: upgrade over what you currently have. And it's interesting too
Speaker 6: because Josh Connolly in this draft class for Washington, was
Speaker 6: the only high profile recruit of the entire group. The
Speaker 6: vast majority of these guys outside of Cain Madrona, who
Speaker 6: by the way, was a receiver he signed with UCL
Speaker 6: he wasn't a linebacker. So outside at hand, all of
Speaker 6: these guys were lightly to moderately recruited. Josh Connery was
Speaker 6: the only one that essentially went from you know, five
Speaker 6: star prospect coming out to actually developing into a first
Speaker 6: round draft dress. And when we first saw him he
Speaker 6: was six foot four, two hundred and sixty pounds, like
Speaker 6: you had to put rocks in his pockets and pour
Speaker 6: him full of water if you wanted to get anywhere
Speaker 6: near three hundred pounds. And so the development and the
Speaker 6: jump that he's made over the course of time has
Speaker 6: almost entirely been enhancing the physical God given talents he
Speaker 6: already had.
Speaker 2: Some One thing I keep hearing about Connelly, which I
Speaker 2: really like, is how.
Speaker 1: He really wants to absorb the game, and not just
Speaker 1: at his position, but at all the positions on offense.
Speaker 1: So that's a big part of any evil, which is
Speaker 1: the mental aspect.
Speaker 2: How much emphasis do you put on that one evaluating
Speaker 2: player huge?
Speaker 6: I think aptitude, the ability to process. When it's a
Speaker 6: quarterback position. You know, we talk about quarterbacks all the
Speaker 6: time and this arm strength and that height and that
Speaker 6: weight and this speed, and you know, can he change
Speaker 6: arm angles and this and that quarterback plays about two things.
Speaker 6: It's about decision making and accuracy. And so you have
Speaker 6: to evaluate I think decision making and the ability to
Speaker 6: process in every position across the board. Because things are
Speaker 6: happening to boom boom, boom boom thousand miles an hour,
Speaker 6: and even guys who are drafted in the first round
Speaker 6: or the sixth round, doesn't matter what it is, they're
Speaker 6: going to see an uptick in not only speed of
Speaker 6: the game, strength of the game. I mean, you're talking
Speaker 6: about the top zero point four percent of the people
Speaker 6: on this planet that actually play in the National Football League.
Speaker 6: I mean, that's the number is just minuscule. And so
Speaker 6: to me, I think the knowledge of the game, the
Speaker 6: theory of the game. If you're a Josh Connery and
Speaker 6: you want to understand, you know why the center's doing
Speaker 6: this and why the tight end's got to do that,
Speaker 6: then you're going to become a better football player just
Speaker 6: as a result of that. And so I think every
Speaker 6: time scouts and guys are going in and they're talking
Speaker 6: to a coach, they're talking to a player personnel guy,
Speaker 6: they're talking to the equipment manager or the athletic trainer.
Speaker 6: Does this guy make good decisions? Does he think things through?
Speaker 6: How does he handle himself? Is he the first guy
Speaker 6: in the building, is the last guy to stay? All
Speaker 6: of those sorts of things I think help uncover and
Speaker 6: identify red blacks. And then you as an organization, as
Speaker 6: with anything else, you need to decide do we want
Speaker 6: to run that risk? Is that a risk we're willing
Speaker 6: to take. Is this something we think we can fix
Speaker 6: if something pops up, and if not, we go on
Speaker 6: and we go on to the next guy in the morning.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I totally understand what you're saying.
Speaker 4: But I thought it was a brilliant move by Peters
Speaker 4: when he watched what the Eagles got going over there
Speaker 4: with Jalen Carter. When he's seeing Dunham and there as
Speaker 4: a rouque, go get drafted by the Dallas Cowboys. When
Speaker 4: you see a dual Carter, you mixing here with Dix
Speaker 4: the Lawrence, and you mixing like the Tripado. They got
Speaker 4: Brian Burns for them to take Conley right there. When
Speaker 4: I said back and look at this office of line.
Speaker 4: Now I see a pro bowler, all pro and Lerrman Tonks,
Speaker 4: so I see Coleman moving to the guard. He played
Speaker 4: well at Tacker. He gonna feel more protected it going.
Speaker 4: I got be honest, a pro bowl Synem and Sam
Speaker 4: cost me when Hilty is a pro bowler. So do
Speaker 4: you think with him combining with his line, they're gonna
Speaker 4: get the best out of him?
Speaker 6: I think that they. He will have to make a
Speaker 6: decision when he starts looking to his right and to
Speaker 6: his left for all of the reasons that you just labeled.
Speaker 6: He's gonna have no choice. He's either gonna sink or swim.
Speaker 6: He better rise to the occasion and be a dude,
Speaker 6: or he'll get out matched for the exact reasons that
Speaker 6: you just laid out right there, Because I think competition
Speaker 6: does breathe the best in in in teammates. And if
Speaker 6: you see the writing on the wall real quickly, you're
Speaker 6: gonna make one of one or two decisions. You're either
Speaker 6: gonna rise all right, or you're gonna fall back into
Speaker 6: the shadows. You look like Homer Simpson falling back into
Speaker 6: the into the the shrubbery there the wall and disappear.
Speaker 6: And I think that's why you spend so much time
Speaker 6: in player evaluation, studying petitive temperament, mental toughness, getting answers
Speaker 6: to those questions. What does a guy do if he
Speaker 6: gets beat? What does a guy do if he's having
Speaker 6: a bad day? How does he respond? How does he react?
Speaker 6: All of those things, Especially the higher the draft choice,
Speaker 6: the more glaring it becomes.
Speaker 1: Tom who is the guy regardless of team that maybe
Speaker 1: isn't a marquee college football name. It could be an
Speaker 1: Ashton gent dear Travis Hunter, someone outside of that that
Speaker 1: you think is gonna be a great pro.
Speaker 6: You know what, To be honest with you, it's you
Speaker 6: just mentioned Donovan Ezraku yeah, and I he's one of
Speaker 6: those guys that's not gonna check every measurable standard box.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 6: He's a little short, kind of has a little short arms,
Speaker 6: doesn't have the length that you maybe like. All that
Speaker 6: dude does is make plays. A just makes plays. He
Speaker 6: is a football playing dude. And sometimes you have to
Speaker 6: sit in the room with the rest of your group
Speaker 6: and say, guys, I know we want six or five
Speaker 6: minimum right, I know we want thirty four inch h
Speaker 6: minimum at this spot. But this guy is too good
Speaker 6: of a player to pass up. And I don't care
Speaker 6: that he can't. He doesn't have any of that stuff.
Speaker 6: I think he's got they a great young man. I
Speaker 6: think he's got the opportunity to be an absolute star.
Speaker 6: Couldn't believe he did. He dropped out of the out
Speaker 6: of the first round. That one really surprised me, to
Speaker 6: be honest with you. So I think he's one that
Speaker 6: just pops out to me, is going to be a
Speaker 6: ten year plus guy.
Speaker 4: Well, I feel like Cowboys knocked the draft out of
Speaker 4: out of the park because Chavone Revel is one of
Speaker 4: my favorite dbs. In his draft, I feel like he
Speaker 4: was a faster version of Richard Sherman. So when I
Speaker 4: looked at the Cowboys draft through and through, I feel
Speaker 4: like they actually, I don't want to get him, no problem,
Speaker 4: but I gotta give him problems.
Speaker 6: I'm gonna say, Man, you're gonna have to buckle.
Speaker 3: Up to say reveal.
Speaker 4: I just thought once I looked at the complete draft,
Speaker 4: I was like, Oh, that's a draft right there. They
Speaker 4: got some dudes and they add him to a couple
Speaker 4: of more dudes that they already get.
Speaker 6: Yeah. No, I no, I agree with you, And I
Speaker 6: think you know it's the draft is always so fascinating
Speaker 6: to me because you do all of this work, right,
Speaker 6: You do all of this planning and the investigatory phase,
Speaker 6: and you're uncovering everything you possibly can, and statistically, the
Speaker 6: history of the draft will show you even with all
Speaker 6: of that hard work, you're probably gonna miss on fifty
Speaker 6: percent of everybody that's taken in the first round. I mean,
Speaker 6: think of think about that. And that's like one guy.
Speaker 6: Like we talk in recruiting, everybody says, oh, they're signing
Speaker 6: twenty five guys at the high school level and they're
Speaker 6: all seventeen years old, and there's gonna be they're hoping
Speaker 6: to hit on sixty percent, meaning they know they're going
Speaker 6: to miss on ten guys. Question is which ten are they?
Speaker 6: But when you look at it from this perspective, you're
Speaker 6: not talking about twenty five guys. You're talking about missing
Speaker 6: fifty percent of the time on one guy. Like That's that's
Speaker 6: fascinating to me, and it's why it's so hard, right,
Speaker 6: And to be honest with you, this is in everything
Speaker 6: in life, luck involved, right, and and you're gonna you're
Speaker 6: you're gonna make some of your own luck by the
Speaker 6: decisions that you make on guys. And I've I've long
Speaker 6: felt in personnel that if you see something that you
Speaker 6: think is an incorrectable problem, you better stay away from it.
Speaker 6: Don't let ego get involved, because if you think you
Speaker 6: can fix it and all this and that, and then
Speaker 6: you end up missing, and you did it knowingly, taking
Speaker 6: somebody that you had uncovered a previous issue on. And
Speaker 6: I think guys get so enamored or they get there,
Speaker 6: you know, we can get him in our in our
Speaker 6: culture and he's going to be fine and all those
Speaker 6: sorts of things, and the older they get, you ain't
Speaker 6: changing the stripes on the tiger Luken Barry.
Speaker 4: I cannot let you out of here by talking to it,
Speaker 4: sprinkling in a little superhero talking here, because you know.
Speaker 3: I love all right what you see.
Speaker 4: I love my Marvel and I just watched The Thunderboats
Speaker 4: aka The DGEs, and I thought it was great. They
Speaker 4: attacked mental health. They he really hit on some stuff.
Speaker 4: Marvel is bad. That's how I feel. And I'm a
Speaker 4: big James Gunn guy. I think he's in the Rebirth DC,
Speaker 4: the Superman movie looks out the while.
Speaker 3: Did you go see Thunderbolts?
Speaker 6: Okay? I saw Thunderbolts on Sunday. I loved it. I
Speaker 6: thought it had like a Guardians of the Galaxy feel. Yeah,
Speaker 6: nough enough enough humor, enough action, great special effect, but
Speaker 6: then it had heart too, like he cared about the characters.
Speaker 6: And to be honest with you, guys, I mean they've
Speaker 6: missed Disney and Marvel over the last like three to
Speaker 6: four outings have completely missed the mark, like they've got
Speaker 6: people disinterested. This movie is gonna get people back and interested.
Speaker 6: And I think what's really cool is it's kicking off
Speaker 6: the phase where you can tell they're gonna combine these
Speaker 6: guys with the Fantastic four. Then you're gonna have the
Speaker 6: vast majority of the Avengers returning the original Avengers and
Speaker 6: Robert Downey Dooingy Junior playing Doctor Doom. Like, how it
Speaker 6: doesn't get any better than that? Now, I got one
Speaker 6: beef with the new Superman deal.
Speaker 3: All right, what you got?
Speaker 6: How bad is that suit? I don't think the suit
Speaker 6: would come on?
Speaker 3: Man, No, this is what James's gone for.
Speaker 4: After that dark DC album We've had the last ten
Speaker 4: years the DC universe, they toned it down.
Speaker 3: It was very dark, very bleak.
Speaker 4: I think he wanted to bring that vibrant Superman back
Speaker 4: and Crypto coming back.
Speaker 6: I love the colors. I love the colors, but give
Speaker 6: me something form fitting. Man. It looks like it looks
Speaker 6: like what's his name in Guardian's a Galaxy of star Lord.
Speaker 2: It just looks like his.
Speaker 6: Suit with a cape and an S on it, and
Speaker 6: it's like all loose and baggy. But here's my theory.
Speaker 6: I have a theory, and if I end up being
Speaker 6: right on this, you guy's gonna have to have me
Speaker 6: back on I think because there's so little known about
Speaker 6: the movie, I'm not so sure that that suit isn't
Speaker 6: on purpose, and it's because he's kind of young and
Speaker 6: just becoming figuring it out. And I bet I think
Speaker 6: by the end of the movie he's gonna get a
Speaker 6: new suit. That's my theory. He's gonna get a suit
Speaker 6: that'll be tight in form fitting me. Why the hell
Speaker 6: go out and do all that work to look great
Speaker 6: to be in the Superman suit and then they put
Speaker 6: you in a baggy smock. What are we doing here?
Speaker 1: Yeah, which just shout super I got this at Men's Warehouse.
Speaker 2: It was a great deal.
Speaker 6: I thought it went to TJ max Man it let
Speaker 6: itsels up a little lowersized Superman suit, But no, I
Speaker 6: love the colors. I think he's great. He should be
Speaker 6: really really good in this. And James Gunn makes great movies, right,
Speaker 6: I mean, when you really think about it. I trust
Speaker 6: him too. Absolutely.
Speaker 1: He's a scout and recruited analyst for ESPN and Serious Xcent.
Speaker 1: It is Tom Logan, Bill, Tom, great stuff, and thank
Speaker 1: you so much for the time were coming to.
Speaker 7: Anna Kayla akathe bomb dot com. Hey guys, it's traveling Jay,
Speaker 7: just checking in. And the last episode you had talked
Speaker 7: about possibly he wanted to hear more about some.
Speaker 8: Of the players.
Speaker 7: I've left the message I need to know a little
Speaker 7: bit more about this Connor the kid, So if you
Speaker 7: could get somebody from Oregon or whatever, let's find out
Speaker 7: a little bit more about him, that would be awesome.
Speaker 7: Also real stoked about the RFK site. I'm hoping that
Speaker 7: they can somehow incorporate the old stadium into the new stadium.
Speaker 7: I don't know how they would do that, maybe possibly
Speaker 7: using some of the debris or whatever. They'd have to
Speaker 7: turn a suck her down. But about that, and also
Speaker 7: I don't know. I don't know if I had told
Speaker 7: you or not. It's a special place for me because
Speaker 7: the last season in ninety six that they did on
Speaker 7: an RFK, actually my wife and I were my ex
Speaker 7: wife now we're married. On the fifty R line at
Speaker 7: RFK oh Te six. It was on a Saturday shoot.
Speaker 7: Talked to John kink Cook I think it was a grandson.
Speaker 7: I believe that was his name, and I got us.
Speaker 7: She got us there, so he wouldn't let us do
Speaker 7: it during the game because he was afraid that other
Speaker 7: people would want to do it and they would start
Speaker 7: an avalanche. But there was the Saturday before the game.
Speaker 7: I can't even remember if they played at home that weekend.
Speaker 7: But anyway, Uh, just on touch base with you guys.
Speaker 7: Still doing a great job as always, and we're still
Speaker 7: a kicking on this side of town. Also, one more time,
Speaker 7: Kansas City. I know Washington comes here, so I'm looking
Speaker 7: forward to going to that game. Never been to a
Speaker 7: game down there, and you know I haven't been there
Speaker 7: that long, so but we'll be touching basically all that too.
Speaker 7: All right, thanks guys, You know I love you, and
Speaker 7: nobody loves you like I do.
Speaker 4: Take care of I see why invested in the RFK.
Speaker 4: If you got married a stadium, you connected to this stadium, right, and.
Speaker 2: Then if you got a divorce, you hope it implodes.
Speaker 4: Yes, but but there's always a port of traveling Jay
Speaker 4: and his wife's.
Speaker 3: He's absolutely like even I got a chance to make
Speaker 3: traveling Jay's son.
Speaker 4: Up for a game, and I can only they failed.
Speaker 4: The little eerie that he was watching the Washington game,
Speaker 4: but he wasn't watching it in the stadium he got
Speaker 4: married in, Yeah, the one that he got connected to.
Speaker 4: So now I see why he want that little brick
Speaker 4: of conerstone.
Speaker 1: They should just keep a little something there like anything
Speaker 1: like just one.
Speaker 3: No, I say more bricks than just one.
Speaker 2: You know what they could do too.
Speaker 1: They can also like a few whatever, just a part
Speaker 1: of it, and then have some sort of shrine or
Speaker 1: something honoring the old stadium where they.
Speaker 3: Have an RFK wall.
Speaker 4: We can have a wall of bricks from the original RFK.
Speaker 3: Maybe two seats and yeah, maybe two.
Speaker 4: Seats in front of the something something, just to pay
Speaker 4: homage to that. Because if people, if they was letting
Speaker 4: people do this type stuff. Now see why they have
Speaker 4: the love affair with RFK that they do, because they
Speaker 4: not just mentally attached to it, They emotionally attached to
Speaker 4: their place. So now and now I'm starting to understand.
Speaker 4: Now I understand it's hollow ground because that's what we beat.
Speaker 4: Dalli said so many time to go to the super
Speaker 4: Bowl and all these memories there, but those are real memory,
Speaker 4: those are lifetime memories right there?
Speaker 3: Would you get married in a football statiud?
Speaker 4: Since since you finish, get married and I'm throwing your
Speaker 4: bachelor party.
Speaker 2: So much to unpack.
Speaker 5: Istherine is Catherine a Commander's fan.
Speaker 1: She is now, I mean Catherine never really had She
Speaker 1: went to College of Charleston and it's from South Carolina.
Speaker 2: But she doesn't really have used to be watching, so
Speaker 2: now all she has his commander stuff.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, Catherine is down with us. We know that
Speaker 3: for a fact. The question jinks you didn't answer.
Speaker 4: Would Catherine say yes to a football field marriage?
Speaker 2: No, absolutely not. I think we're getting married in Virginia.
Speaker 3: I think I've been saying even at the University of Charleston.
Speaker 1: I don't know about that. I think fotball field is
Speaker 1: probably not the equation.
Speaker 3: Well, I think men don't ax enough.
Speaker 4: I think when it comes to marriage, the first thing
Speaker 4: we do is say, here, you handle it. And mostly
Speaker 4: the dudes that I know have xd for these different requests.
Speaker 4: They always have these themed marriages and they always last.
Speaker 3: So maybe we are.
Speaker 4: Lacking as men, not being proactive and saying, how about
Speaker 4: we do it somewhere different. How about we do it
Speaker 4: off the beating path. How about we don't do it
Speaker 4: at a church. How about we do it our way?
Speaker 4: Because traveling Jay did it dayweight and that's why they
Speaker 4: still together.
Speaker 2: Anna, you'll get married one day.
Speaker 1: What if your fiance says, honey, you work for the commanders.
Speaker 5: Great, I love the commanders I work for the commanders.
Speaker 5: But you don't want to get married where you work.
Speaker 4: No, you don't work at RK, you work at the
Speaker 4: practice facility.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 5: I always saw myself getting married in Colorado. That's that
Speaker 5: would be more. But I would not be getting married
Speaker 5: out fulsome field. I wouldn't be getting married. I also understand.
Speaker 5: But if if, if the team is somehow instrumental in
Speaker 5: your love story, like it was for Traveling Jay and
Speaker 5: his now ex wife, but it was an instrumental part
Speaker 5: of their love story. And I think that's a I'm gonna.
Speaker 3: Give you a scenario. Ana, Yes, your fiance is a
Speaker 3: naval guy.
Speaker 4: He's a naval guy, lieutenant captain whatever, all right, he
Speaker 4: wants to get married on air craft carry all right.
Speaker 1: I'm just I thought you were going to say Annapolis,
Speaker 1: and you're like craft.
Speaker 3: We've got a couple of shift there.
Speaker 4: I mean, I'm just saying, I just want to I
Speaker 4: want to marry two things.
Speaker 5: Reception or the or the rehearsal.
Speaker 3: No, absolutely not.
Speaker 2: And then when you say I do f.
Speaker 5: Eighteen, it's fifty to fifty. It's got to be fifty
Speaker 5: to fifty. Both parties need to be in agreement. Both
Speaker 5: parties are in agreement that you're getting married at RFK Stadium.
Speaker 5: Go for it. That's amazing you do you. But I
Speaker 5: don't know if I'll be in agreement for that.
Speaker 4: Well I can say is a guy that got married traditionally,
Speaker 4: I'm not doing it traditionally No more. I'm going to
Speaker 4: do it like traveling Jay in the middle of a
Speaker 4: field somewhere.
Speaker 2: Are it would be just an actual field for you, Yes,
Speaker 2: just a.
Speaker 3: Feel of dreams.
Speaker 4: Like all I'm saying is the marriages that I have
Speaker 4: watched do it a little different.
Speaker 3: They stand to test of time. That's all I'm saying.
Speaker 5: Well, you got to do You got to do what's
Speaker 5: right for your relationship.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's what you got adapt whatever that is.
Speaker 5: And so for Jenks, that's not getting married out of
Speaker 5: football field. Yes, it's going with what Catherine wants.
Speaker 4: Yeah, to get married in the box on the football filx.
Speaker 4: And you've been you've been speaking. But I just think
Speaker 4: you got to come up with different ways. No, when
Speaker 4: you say the invitation creativity, Like the first thing I
Speaker 4: do when somebody send me an invitation to win, I
Speaker 4: want to know the location, Okay, I want to know
Speaker 4: the thing. These are two things I need to know
Speaker 4: when I see it's conventional, I might make it, Man,
Speaker 4: I might not.
Speaker 5: I love it. I love it. Are you ready for
Speaker 5: our next next caller? Thanking and traveling jail?
Speaker 3: Also hearing from me you might get married at a
Speaker 3: seventy eleven? Who knows?
Speaker 2: And that's a big.
Speaker 9: Net himself, Michael Jagon And and how you doing, lady?
Speaker 3: Look y'all didn't do your homework?
Speaker 8: Are you supposed to go do the homework on the.
Speaker 7: Black helm, white jersey with a black pan?
Speaker 3: Say you didn't like it?
Speaker 7: Okay, it's cool.
Speaker 6: We're gonna move past it.
Speaker 7: I like it.
Speaker 3: You ain't gotta like it at the time, but you
Speaker 3: like that?
Speaker 7: All gold twenty ft Karen talking about coming in thinking
Speaker 7: and whatnot.
Speaker 8: I'm not a fan at all.
Speaker 3: Good I just need to hear nor that.
Speaker 8: On one time to do a d dive on Jacobe
Speaker 8: Jones the drafted three and we got it. I didn't know, man, Man,
Speaker 8: you used to play for Alabama. Man, that boy looked nice.
Speaker 6: He looked nice.
Speaker 9: I know he was an undrave the creator when I've
Speaker 9: seen some of the players that little homework on him.
Speaker 6: Man, he looked pretty good.
Speaker 8: He looked pretty good.
Speaker 6: Man. If y'all do a little homework on him.
Speaker 3: Let hus know what you think.
Speaker 8: Appreciate y'all have a great one, great show, phenomenal.
Speaker 7: It's about time y'all got together and did something.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 8: Two of the most hilarious guys in the business doing
Speaker 8: it right now. Man, we appreciate you.
Speaker 6: Know, y'all be cool.
Speaker 3: I appreciate you.
Speaker 4: The black and white uniform, like, I think he just
Speaker 4: was going against the grave, Jason. I think he just
Speaker 4: was saying, you know what, I'm gonna put the the
Speaker 4: most unobvious stuff together and see what happens.
Speaker 2: It's I guess we got to do homework.
Speaker 4: Don't talk about when he said it. I know all
Speaker 4: the uniforms in my head and I was like, what
Speaker 4: is he trying to match? So I was like, oh,
Speaker 4: he tried to take these black jerseys out of black pants.
Speaker 3: Yeah, mission with the white top. By the way, Like, no,
Speaker 3: that ain't gonna work.
Speaker 4: Like there's no symmetry there, there's no And I can't
Speaker 4: believe he's shot down Bruno Mars fourteen carry go like
Speaker 4: do you know how they would look what they they
Speaker 4: just say? We had the gold healing right, just to
Speaker 4: go heal it literally, like on gold jerseys, on gold pants.
Speaker 3: Gold. What sucks.
Speaker 1: He's sticking so hard to white and black and you
Speaker 1: were sticking so like both you guys.
Speaker 3: Once again, Well, because I'm a I'm thinking color rush
Speaker 3: in my head.
Speaker 2: That's the second thing you started Twitter, the color rush.
Speaker 4: Man.
Speaker 2: You should be getting paid for all.
Speaker 3: These yeah, get paid for none of them, none of them.
Speaker 5: All right, Well, we have one more voicemail and we'll
Speaker 5: hit the last topic and that'll be the show. Thank
Speaker 5: you everybody for leaving your voicemails this past week. You
Speaker 5: guys have so many awesome voicemails, and just keep leaving voicemails,
Speaker 5: sending us emails. It's so much fun. And you guys
Speaker 5: are involved, all right. And this one was from our
Speaker 5: friend Omar.
Speaker 7: Hello, smooth Jenks and.
Speaker 8: And happy Sunday.
Speaker 9: Hope you guys are fighting off these Sunday scary I
Speaker 9: wanted a call. I just read the report from Niki Jaballa.
Speaker 8: We're hosting a draft in two years, guys.
Speaker 9: I think it's in Pittsburgh next year. The draft will
Speaker 9: be in Washington, DC in twenty twenty seven. I'm curious
Speaker 9: to know your guys and thoughts about this. Have you
Speaker 9: guys ever attended the draft as a pan what's like?
Speaker 9: Is it just a bunch of standing around and anyways?
Speaker 9: I wonder if the prospect professor Logan Paulson has any
Speaker 9: input on this as well. I'm curious to hear your guys'
Speaker 9: thoughts and any you know, way too early predictions for
Speaker 9: what the twenty twenty seven draft will look like. I mean,
Speaker 9: do you think Arch Manning has come out that year?
Speaker 7: Curious?
Speaker 9: I think Ryan Williams and Jeremiah Smith might be in
Speaker 9: that draft too.
Speaker 4: Yeah, he's right, Jeremiah Smith, Ryan Williams the freshman femom.
Speaker 3: Oh Ryan Williams a player man, Jeremi Smith is a monster.
Speaker 4: I think Julio Jones mixed with Randy Moss or amazing
Speaker 4: Archman and you know a lot about that, don't you.
Speaker 3: Jin hook them down?
Speaker 2: Get that's our yet.
Speaker 3: I think Arch gonna be great, But I also think
Speaker 3: Arch is gonna stay forty years that Texas I.
Speaker 1: Think he says more than one. If Texas wins the
Speaker 1: national title this year, which is look Texan. Ohiose they
Speaker 1: are both co favorites for the national title and then
Speaker 1: I think he goes. But I think Arch is different,
Speaker 1: and we'll probably say a.
Speaker 3: Couple of years.
Speaker 4: I think Archer stay so that that twenty seven draft
Speaker 4: will be the draft of drafts, all right. So I
Speaker 4: think it's some freshman fee numbs in there that's playing
Speaker 4: right now, that's gonna be sophomores that'll be great. And
Speaker 4: the draft experience, yes, I have had it. I got
Speaker 4: friends that did it. It's the loudest, it's very stadium like,
Speaker 4: it's this constant.
Speaker 3: From what I hear. If you're sitting in the crowd.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you can hear nothing, right, But on the outside
Speaker 4: we can hear everything, right, So it's this constant crowd noise.
Speaker 4: And then it's these explosions all right. But it's like
Speaker 4: every fan base is waiting on there. They're shot yeah
Speaker 4: to do it. So it's like everybody's taking turns. And
Speaker 4: from what I hear, sometime you can hear the people
Speaker 4: making the calls. Sometime you can't.
Speaker 3: Cause it's dead loud.
Speaker 4: So the expirits is different, and it's it's longer than
Speaker 4: a football game.
Speaker 3: It's longer than anything you've been to.
Speaker 2: It goes on for days.
Speaker 3: When I say longer, Like they just say the first
Speaker 3: day that this five six hours.
Speaker 4: The second day start earlier than that, and the third
Speaker 4: day is a whole entire day. Like, so it's one
Speaker 4: of them things where it's not a sporting event, but
Speaker 4: it's kind of.
Speaker 3: Well.
Speaker 1: Also, DC is such a tourist city anyway, obviously, so
Speaker 1: we're built for it. And plus people will come and say,
Speaker 1: let's just make a trip like.
Speaker 2: Nothing against Green Bay.
Speaker 1: A lot of people wouldn't necessarily plan a trip to
Speaker 1: Green Bay outside of the draft, but you will for DC.
Speaker 4: That's without saying it's just like going to a Raiders game.
Speaker 4: People see Raiders on their shoulders, and this is more
Speaker 4: than this is a trip.
Speaker 3: DC gonna be the same thing.
Speaker 4: People will be going to the museums while they down
Speaker 4: there on the national Law, they will be going out
Speaker 4: to the water front.
Speaker 3: They will be doing all this stuff.
Speaker 4: So it won't be just draft centric like we have
Speaker 4: that to offer the one in Green Bay this year,
Speaker 4: no disrespect, it was only draft. Right, unless you're going
Speaker 4: to a Perkins in Wisconsin, it ain't too much you're
Speaker 4: doing out there. But people will get to take on
Speaker 4: the nation's capital in a different way, right, and they're
Speaker 4: going to see that the d m V is unique
Speaker 4: like no other cities in the world. All right, when
Speaker 4: they come, when they see all their water, the will
Speaker 4: probably be just the best because the football gods are
Speaker 4: shining on us right now.
Speaker 3: So it's gonna be. This is what I say. This
Speaker 3: will be more than a draft. It'll be an adventure.
Speaker 2: There will be one person comes here and says, where's
Speaker 2: the closest Perkins.
Speaker 3: It is no Perkins.
Speaker 4: We got no Perkins for you, right, But we got
Speaker 4: some top notch restaurant, we got top notch people.
Speaker 3: It's a very clean city.
Speaker 4: It's more water than you think you ever see, and
Speaker 4: we got some uniquely nobody is hey, as we are,
Speaker 4: two states in the nation Capitol all together, we are
Speaker 4: to d m V.
Speaker 3: Nobody can compete with it.
Speaker 2: Amen, guys, can I talk to you about you can't
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Speaker 3: It's gonna be June. I think is it June?
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think it's gonna be Jing' don't mark me
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Speaker 4: Fritchmo will be there and I'm gonna I'm that's not
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Speaker 3: You know, before we go?
Speaker 1: Yeah, Abdul Carter, yeah, draft about the Giants out of
Speaker 1: Penn State. Yeah, first he asked for LT's number, which
Speaker 1: I thought my head was going to explode.
Speaker 2: And LT was like lost hair is the greatest defensive
Speaker 2: player of all time and.
Speaker 3: He ain't gonna hold his mouth right wrong, dude.
Speaker 2: He was like, thanks, but no thanks.
Speaker 3: It was gonna make your own Marke, go make your
Speaker 3: own way.
Speaker 2: And then Abduall Carter because you are eleven to Penn State.
Speaker 1: That's the thing of Penn State, asked Phil Simms, former
Speaker 1: Giants quarterback if.
Speaker 2: You could wear eleven? And I heard field, his family
Speaker 2: was like no, No.
Speaker 3: Was like because he go he go to thing.
Speaker 4: And that's why my Michael Irvin. I love Michael Irving
Speaker 4: for this reason. He enjoyed seeing eighty eight on the
Speaker 4: field on son. He enjoyed seeing people never can forget
Speaker 4: about uh, Michael Irvan because Cedee Lamb is winning eighty eight,
Speaker 4: Daviz Bryant.
Speaker 3: Will like eighty eight is still alive.
Speaker 4: I respect him so much for this, But he got
Speaker 4: the scariest thing because I had to really think about this.
Speaker 4: Let's say you a Hall of Fame player, Michael Jenkins. Okay,
Speaker 4: your number is number eleven.
Speaker 3: Okay, all right?
Speaker 4: A player calls and asks you this, and you call
Speaker 4: me and say, smooth, should I let him wear it?
Speaker 4: And I'm just the first thing I'm gonna say to you.
Speaker 4: You a Hall of Fame player, right, but you're a
Speaker 4: Hall of Fame player in your time? What happens if
Speaker 4: this dude outballs you?
Speaker 3: Now? Is that jersey his? Are you forgotten?
Speaker 9: Is it his?
Speaker 1: Now?
Speaker 4: Does that jersey now belong to? Sonny Jergis in the third?
Speaker 4: All right, it's no longer people will not identify you
Speaker 4: with that, all right. It's similar to this, Darren Greenware
Speaker 4: is twenty.
Speaker 2: Eight, So you're saying keep the number.
Speaker 4: I'm saying you gotta protect your legacy. You did too
Speaker 4: much to get to that level to just say here,
Speaker 4: all right, I just because.
Speaker 1: But also to someone who hasn't played a down or
Speaker 1: pro football, it's like, listen, Abdul Carter may be a
Speaker 1: great pro chance, he might not do anything.
Speaker 2: You might not get said about anyone.
Speaker 4: No, that's any player draft like all thirty two first
Speaker 4: round could crash, all right, But they go to big
Speaker 4: question that I think you have to ask yourself, like
Speaker 4: twenty three is Michael Jordan's number? A right Lebron woard
Speaker 4: But we still think about Mike, right, but what if
Speaker 4: he would have rolled there in Chicago? Oh hell no,
Speaker 4: I'm just saying if he Lebron makes me visibly, are
Speaker 4: not saying if Lebron would have wrote twenty three in
Speaker 4: Chicago right now, we will be having the biggest debate
Speaker 4: of our time like we already had, right, who's the goat?
Speaker 3: Well, they were like, no, the twenty three belong to Lebron.
Speaker 4: This generation gonna say that now me dirty old man like, uh, oh, Michael,
Speaker 4: nobody could do with Michael.
Speaker 2: Dirty of men like us, both of us, both of us.
Speaker 4: But do you see what I'm saying. Yes, Like it's
Speaker 4: a it's a clash of do you want to be
Speaker 4: remembered always? Uh? Would you rather see somebody else take
Speaker 4: pick up where the old man left off?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 2: And also I feel like if you earn that honor,
Speaker 2: field to keep that.
Speaker 1: And here's the thing, especially especially with someone like lt
Speaker 1: Like even when I think of five to six, I
Speaker 1: don't just think five six football, or like I always
Speaker 1: think of Lawrence Taylor.
Speaker 3: Number fifty six is Lawrence Taylor? Like that's it, that's
Speaker 3: it right for generations that they didn't even see him play.
Speaker 2: That's like Jackie Robinson is forty two.
Speaker 4: You know, you know forty two years you understand simply
Speaker 4: when I say twelve, Who you thinking about Brady?
Speaker 1: Now?
Speaker 2: What a Shader's wearing twelve?
Speaker 3: Right?
Speaker 4: What if arch Man had come out and let's say
Speaker 4: something happened to the Patriots quarterback and he wants to
Speaker 4: wear twelve.
Speaker 2: Oh no, I'm the biggest start, you know.
Speaker 4: See that's say the first night he think about it,
Speaker 4: go to sleep and have a nightmare that my Patriots
Speaker 4: Jersey got.
Speaker 3: Manning on the back of instead of brain.
Speaker 2: That'd be sacrilege.
Speaker 6: Thank you.
Speaker 4: It just but but you got to put that in
Speaker 4: the category for everybody. Yeah, like, just just the way
Speaker 4: it is, just how them guys gonna look at it.
Speaker 4: That's how Hall of Famer gonna look at it. They're
Speaker 4: going to want to be stubborn in that way.
Speaker 3: And I'm not mad. I'm not mad. I get that.
Speaker 2: That is it for the Get Loud Podcast Present in
Speaker 2: my seat, Geek. Got a great crew here, Taylor's in
Speaker 2: the back.
Speaker 3: Yep.
Speaker 4: Annas the Lonely Show with you Dad, it could have been.
Speaker 2: We'll check it out next week with us see su.
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