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Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck

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Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. Welcome into the second hour of The

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Speaker 1: Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show. We are rocketing through

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Speaker 1: the news of the day here, making sure we'd bring

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Speaker 1: you all up to speed. We've got coming up in

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Speaker 1: the third hour. Just give you a quick little preview

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Speaker 1: someone look forward to. We've got a bridge coleby Elbridge Colby,

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Speaker 1: old friend of mine from my DC days who was

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Speaker 1: at the Pentagon, a brilliant guy on strategy for the

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Speaker 1: US in the Pacific, notably with China the taking of

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Speaker 1: Taiwan as a possibility here, what would we do if

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Speaker 1: the Chinese Communist Party made a move on Taiwan? And

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Speaker 1: why should we do it? We'll address those questions come

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Speaker 1: up in the third hour of the show, but for

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Speaker 1: right now, we have been talking about the border a

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Speaker 1: lot here, and one of the reasons for that is

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Speaker 1: it's incredibly important. Another reason is that the Democrat Party

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Speaker 1: does not want to spend time on this issue. They

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Speaker 1: do not want to focus on this because they have

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Speaker 1: no good answers for the American people about what's going on. Clay,

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Speaker 1: We've been saying now for the last month or so

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Speaker 1: that October may be the single highest ever month on

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Speaker 1: record for illegal crossings. As I understand it, there are

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Speaker 1: still caravans making their way to the border. There are

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Speaker 1: day to day crossings all along the border at various points.

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Speaker 1: Remember when the weather is a little bit more favorable,

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Speaker 1: it's not the debt or the heat of summer, people

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Speaker 1: tend to come over in larger numbers. And as we thought,

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Speaker 1: we have the single highest ever. They're saying nineteen eighty six,

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Speaker 1: And we can talk about why that number is so

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Speaker 1: important as well since the year nineteen eighty six. But really,

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Speaker 1: when you add it all in, especially when you include

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Speaker 1: get a gotaways and the number of visa overstays if

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Speaker 1: you want to include them in the illegal immigrant category,

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Speaker 1: more legal crossing this year than ever before at the

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Speaker 1: southern border one point seven million in fiscal year twenty

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Speaker 1: twenty one alone under this Biden administration. I think that

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Speaker 1: you know you said before in the midterms the Democrats

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Speaker 1: are heading for an annihilation of sorts that I really

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Speaker 1: think so similar to twenty and I hate getting ahead

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Speaker 1: of ourselves, right because it's a long year between now

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Speaker 1: and then. McLay if this border issue continues and the

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Speaker 1: Biden administration doesn't stumble like a lottery winner into a

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Speaker 1: much better economy, which how the heck is that going

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Speaker 1: to happen. I think that the border issue drags them

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Speaker 1: down in a way that you could see a historic

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Speaker 1: repudiation of the Democrat Party in the midterm elections, largely

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Speaker 1: driven by the fact that we have a lawlessness at

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Speaker 1: our southern border that they can't explain away. It's bad.

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Speaker 1: We talked about data earlier for independence and how they

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Speaker 1: are abandoning Joe Biden in record numbers. Joe Biden has

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Speaker 1: bad numbers on virtually every issue, foreign policy, now even COVID,

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Speaker 1: which was his calling card got him elected, The economy, inflation,

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Speaker 1: all of these things, all of those negative numbers pale

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Speaker 1: in comparison to the border. And let me just say this,

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Speaker 1: James Carville got Bill Clinton elected in nineteen ninety two.

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Speaker 1: Do you remember what his basic message was, Buck, and

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Speaker 1: I think Ross Pero got Bill Clinton. Well, I know, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I know what you're It's the economy stupid, right, It's

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Speaker 1: the economy stupid, was what James Carville said. That is

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Speaker 1: the linchpin that got Bill Clinton elected in nineteen ninety two.

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Speaker 1: As you mentioned, ross Pero running also helped to Bill Clinton.

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Speaker 1: Man ross Pero running in ninety two and ninety six

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Speaker 1: down in Chattanooga. But I will say this, Republicans should

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Speaker 1: just run on It's the border stupid, I'm telling you,

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Speaker 1: if you look at the data, it works for Independence,

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Speaker 1: it even works for Democrats, It works for white, Black, Asian,

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Speaker 1: even Hispanic people. Illegal immigration is the weakest of many

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Speaker 1: a landslide election. Now you can piece it together with

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Speaker 1: I think those supplement it. But if you were looking

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Speaker 1: Why did Trump win? And I covered this, I cover

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Speaker 1: that primary very close. Yes, Why did Trump not only

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Speaker 1: happens if this flow continues in the way that it

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Speaker 1: has been. That's point one. So Trump, If there's anything

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Speaker 1: the sweet spot with the messaging, and obviously build the

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Speaker 1: Wall was the primary chant really, I mean, make America

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Speaker 1: The walls historically kind of work. I mean, you're a history.

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Speaker 1: There's a reason why palaces are surrounded by walls. There's

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Speaker 1: gated communities, like walls are pretty effective. And the second point,

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Speaker 1: and you just made me think about this. When we're

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Speaker 1: to always say that opposition to illegal immigration is racist.

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Speaker 1: feel almost the Facebook messages, claim the emails coming in

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Speaker 1: set up. Our people who came here from Bolivia, from Vietnam,

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Speaker 1: so it is not a racist thing. Otherwise, you have

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Speaker 1: Stupid is an easy pitch, right, but also supplementing that

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Speaker 1: the foundation of the Democratic Party right now. Right, It's

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Speaker 1: buck You and I are rare in this because I

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Speaker 1: for a lot of people, it's like you recoil from it.

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Speaker 1: It's such a destructive label that so many people are

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Speaker 1: to sixty. Right, like you are racist is a tough because,

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Speaker 1: first of all, how do you disprove it? Right? You

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Speaker 1: itself as a point of attack. Right, you can agree

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Speaker 1: we have one point seven million illegals coming in and

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Speaker 1: here's the problem, Clay, and I pose this to you,

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Speaker 1: and you know, we have this ongoing conversation where it's

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Speaker 1: every single person across the country who's listening this right now, Right,

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Speaker 1: That's that's what we're doing every day. I don't know

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Speaker 1: That's the major separation we have. It may help them

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Speaker 1: short term. I hope that's deploys it. That's the play

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Speaker 1: because again, I believe that there is a fundamental repudiation

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Speaker 1: seen what happens when American ideals don't prevail. Right if

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Speaker 1: you know what communism and socialism one of the biggest

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Speaker 1: some of I mean this, some of you. I go

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Speaker 1: down to Florida fair amount Some of the biggest Clay

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Speaker 1: Welcome back m clay Travis buck Sexton Show. Appreciate all

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Speaker 1: now attacked police. We have moved our target from let's

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Speaker 1: put criminals behind bars to police our racist and so

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Speaker 1: we have created now a culture where crimes like these

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Speaker 1: are far more likely to happen. Now, bigger picture here,

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Speaker 1: we've got the immigration you're talking about, because this guy

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Speaker 1: shouldn't have been in the country at all. Should have

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Speaker 1: been in the country at all, And if we were

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Speaker 1: actually aggressively policing, and if we were aggressively enforcing the laws,

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Speaker 1: we'd be chasing these guys who have committed crimes, would

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Speaker 1: be kicking them out. Well, we had him in the system,

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Speaker 1: he was convicted, he was convicted of offenses that should

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Speaker 1: have triggered a deportation, but woke judges, let's just be honest,

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Speaker 1: social justice warriors in robes, decide that they're not going

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Speaker 1: to send this individual out because increasingly, if you deport anybody,

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Speaker 1: the Democrat mindset is, if you deport anybody from America

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Speaker 1: and they are a non white immigrant to this country,

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Speaker 1: that act of deportation is racist because we are a

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Speaker 1: nation of immigrants. This is really, this is what pushes

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Speaker 1: so much of the belief system of democrat with Democrats

449
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Speaker 1: when it comes to immigration. And you look at this

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Speaker 1: instance and you say, if you're not going to deport

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Speaker 1: someone who's in the country illegally, who's convicted of a

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Speaker 1: sex crime and a drug crime. Who are you deported?

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Speaker 1: I mean, do you have to be a mass murderer.

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Speaker 1: And remember the same government that wants to be able

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Speaker 1: to look into your bank account or they've backed off

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Speaker 1: that as of today a little bit, a little bit.

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Speaker 1: The same government that wants access to your accounts for

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Speaker 1: over six hundred dollars so they can audit you and

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Speaker 1: maybe throw you in prison for not paying your taxes

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Speaker 1: the way you're supposed to is telling us that when

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Speaker 1: they don't deport somebody who is clearly a public safety risk,

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Speaker 1: well too bad. Nothing's perfect even Remember this wasn't a

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Speaker 1: decision they should have made. It should have triggered a deportation.

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Speaker 1: They decided to override that. There's also play the bystander issue. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and I want to get into the bystander issue with

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Speaker 1: you here in a sec And I would just point

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Speaker 1: out before we go and start to talk about the

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Speaker 1: bystander issue, I would say this, buck, let's keep in

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Speaker 1: mind that we have insurrectionists who took selfies inside of

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Speaker 1: the capital that are in solitary confinement, and yet we

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Speaker 1: can't actually deport real criminals who aren't even citizens in

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Speaker 1: this country. So it's not only being soft on crime,

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Speaker 1: it's being selectively insanely difficult. When the politics justifies going

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Speaker 1: after someone aggressively, that's the narrative trumping the crime. The

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Speaker 1: sorrow spect Terry mccaulliff tiede prosecutor in Loudon County who

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Speaker 1: didn't want to take a hard line against the transgender

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Speaker 1: student who sexually assaulted a teen girl in the school,

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Speaker 1: made sure to show up to try to throw the

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Speaker 1: dad of the assaulted teen in prison. That's and she,

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Speaker 1: the prosecutor, ran on a stop mass incarceration platform, right,

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Speaker 1: So stop putting people in prison for serious stuff. But

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Speaker 1: if you're a dad who speaks out at a school

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Speaker 1: board meeting because your daughter was raped by a transgender

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Speaker 1: student in the bathroom and the school tried to cover

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Speaker 1: it up, you need to be in a cell for

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Speaker 1: to come back and talk about this bystander issue because

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Speaker 1: I think our audience, just sir, everyone knows this assault

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Speaker 1: we don't know the exact number. Numerous people on the train.

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Speaker 1: Not only did they do nothing, some of them film

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Speaker 1: with us. On a great Wednesday in October, we are

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Speaker 1: breaking down a story that went viral. A sexual assault

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Speaker 1: illegal immigrant occurring on a Septa train. I believe that

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Speaker 1: stands for Southeast Pennsylvania Transit Authority. If my East Coast

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Speaker 1: knowledge is still accurate. I've been on some of those

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Speaker 1: SEPTA trains over the years. But your point, and I

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Speaker 1: think it's such an interesting one to discuss, is why

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Speaker 1: does nobody report this sexual assault? And worse than that,

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Speaker 1: why do people start filming? And my thought, my thought

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Speaker 1: on a basic level, can I just yeah, it's just

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Speaker 1: one of the why don't people intervene? Yeah, I mean

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Speaker 1: that's that the first thing, at a minimum, you would

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Speaker 1: think you would call police if you're scared to intervene.

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Speaker 1: But I mean, you know, and I know we're talking

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Speaker 1: to this audience, and we've got particularly men with their

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Speaker 1: women to listen to this, who all across the country

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Speaker 1: are concealed carry permit holders. Yes, Curner, former military, Curner,

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Speaker 1: former law enforcement, are just concerned citizens and they'd be

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Speaker 1: right in there, and I know they would so they

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Speaker 1: hear about something like this and it's just mind blowing

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Speaker 1: to them, I know. And so I've got a couple

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Speaker 1: of theories. I'm curious what you think. One, we have

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Speaker 1: created an a bystander culture. We have created a culture

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Speaker 1: where people's first thought when something newsworthy, good or bad

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Speaker 1: happens in front of them. Is not to be an

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Speaker 1: agent in the story themselves. It's to be the person

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Speaker 1: who holds up their phone and takes video of it.

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Speaker 1: Fights in a in a sports bar, fights in a stadium.

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Speaker 1: I see this all the time. Very few people actually

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Speaker 1: take the effort to try and break up the fight,

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Speaker 1: but tons of people pull out their phones and make

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Speaker 1: sure that they record the fight again. And maybe an

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Speaker 1: even fight you might be nervous about get catching a

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Speaker 1: punch trying to break it up. This is a very

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Speaker 1: right two guys who are had too much a drink

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Speaker 1: who are throwing punches at each other at the ball game.

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Speaker 1: I know you and I agree on this. That is

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Speaker 1: a dramatic for a different situation level. But most people's

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Speaker 1: response on that is to pull out their phones. And

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Speaker 1: I think if you look at the way that culture evolves,

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Speaker 1: people's thought now is not to be a part of

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Speaker 1: the story themselves. It's very often to record the activity.

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Speaker 1: So it's unfortunate, but I think this kind of thing

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Speaker 1: happens all the time, and by the way, Buck, it

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Speaker 1: can be where someone is it's not a fair fight

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Speaker 1: between two guys I'm talking about somebody is ganging up.

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Speaker 1: Eight people are beating up one person. Right, there's still

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Speaker 1: someone standing there filming it. It is a film first

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Speaker 1: by standard culture. The other thing is I think we

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Speaker 1: have in downing the value of masculinity. Let me explain

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Speaker 1: my theory here. In trying to make the sexes entirely equal,

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Speaker 1: we have created a dynamic where a lot of men,

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Speaker 1: especially young men, don't feel like they should be behaving

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Speaker 1: chivalrously and protecting those who are weaker. You and I Buck,

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Speaker 1: I feel like we're near the tell end. And I

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Speaker 1: still raise my kids the same way, but I think

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Speaker 1: it's not as prominent in our culture as it was,

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Speaker 1: where men are expected to protect women. We are bigger

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Speaker 1: and stronger than women, and so we are expected. We

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Speaker 1: were raised to protect women who are in danger. That's

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Speaker 1: what I was taught, That's what I teach my kids.

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Speaker 1: I think a smaller and smaller percentage of Americans are

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Speaker 1: being taught the same thing because we're teaching, oh, there's

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Speaker 1: no real difference between men, and gender is not real,

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Speaker 1: and so even something simple like hey, I'm gonna hold

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Speaker 1: the door open for a woman, I don't see young

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Speaker 1: men behaving in that same chivalrous fashion as would have

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Speaker 1: occurred in the past. And so I think that translates

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Speaker 1: when there is someone in a position who is clearly

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Speaker 1: being taken advantage of, there isn't that same chivalrous reaction

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Speaker 1: to defend a woman because young men have been taught

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Speaker 1: in this case. In this case, it's a woman who's

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Speaker 1: being really site of a number of people, and I'm

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Speaker 1: assuming there was at least one man, although we don't

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Speaker 1: know how many, and we don't know what the genders

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Speaker 1: were of the people that were watching, but you can

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Speaker 1: just guess if this is a it's a pretty crowded

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Speaker 1: time of day to be on the train. I'm sure

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Speaker 1: there were a number of people there. There should have

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Speaker 1: been a sense to your partner. And I completely agree

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Speaker 1: with you about you know, Dad's it just was just standard.

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Speaker 1: Like my dad always told me growing up, you're not

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Speaker 1: a man if you hit a woman. You know, there

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Speaker 1: there things like that, And now it's oh, why are

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Speaker 1: using this gendered language, and there'll be all this orsive

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Speaker 1: way with a woman with women. Women can fight, you know,

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Speaker 1: rather biological males can fight in the mma against women,

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Speaker 1: and that's like, okay, which is completely insane, by the way,

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Speaker 1: and I know that, you know, the trans community wants

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Speaker 1: to pretend like it's that's not an insane thing. It

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Speaker 1: is an insane thing. But in this instance, I mean,

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Speaker 1: we should as as a society, and I look, I

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Speaker 1: know that people listening to this are saying, of course

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Speaker 1: I would have done something, and I believe it. I mean,

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Speaker 1: because the kind of people that believe in honor, integrity,

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Speaker 1: and masculinity are are often I would even say overwhelmingly

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Speaker 1: these days. Uh, you know, center right in a lot

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Speaker 1: of their beliefs, not all, not everybody, but you know

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Speaker 1: a lot of them. It's very common to believe in

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Speaker 1: what would be considered in some context toxic masculinity i e.

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Speaker 1: Male aggression. Use for the defense of women in a

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Speaker 1: situation like this, I mean, we should all know, we

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Speaker 1: should all be thinking about how it is not possible

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Speaker 1: to be a man of honor and to have sat

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Speaker 1: by while this woman was being attacked on the train.

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Speaker 1: It is not possible to be a man of courage

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Speaker 1: to sit by and do nothing. And I would even

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Speaker 1: go so far as to say there was a duty

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Speaker 1: too if there was an able bodied man on that

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Speaker 1: train there was a duty to intervene physically at risk

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Speaker 1: of injury and or even death. If you're a man

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Speaker 1: of honor, that's what needed to be done here, and Clay,

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Speaker 1: they videoed it. Yeah. Nothing. I think in addition to

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Speaker 1: the bystander culture and the attack on masculinity, I think

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Speaker 1: the attack on masculinity has also created a hyper fear

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Speaker 1: of danger. I think there are a lot of people

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Speaker 1: that are afraid if they get involved, they're going to

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Speaker 1: end up being a victim of violence, or they're going

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Speaker 1: to end up a target in some way. And I

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Speaker 1: think all of that's conspired to make us worse humans

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Speaker 1: in general, right, I mean, and if you're not willing

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Speaker 1: to stand up for the weakest among us, to me,

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Speaker 1: you are an awful human being. We got an expert

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Speaker 1: talk about Clay, the question you and I have been

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Speaker 1: pushing back and forth here and thinking about what would

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Speaker 1: we do if China went for it with Taiwan. I mean,

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Speaker 1: if they decided they were going to take Taiwan, why

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Speaker 1: should we act and how should we act in response

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Speaker 1: to that? Because it seems more than ever that's a

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Speaker 1: possibility I think we're ready for that discussion. We come

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Speaker 1: back for sure. And Buck, by the way, it's becoming

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Speaker 1: more and more likely the weaker and weaker Joe Biden wooks,

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Speaker 1: and that gets worse and worse every single day. Our

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Speaker 1: enemies know they can take advantage of us. What should

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Speaker 1: we do if Taiwan gets attacked? Its a monster question.

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Speaker 1: You're listening to, Clay Travis, send Buck Sexton fund the

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