Speaker 1: What's that at the foot of my bed. It's spooky, Hey, kooky,
Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure it's dead. It's coming, it's way Wait
Speaker 1: a minute, Hey.
Speaker 2: I'm no said.
Speaker 1: Nyron's dressed as Plase.
Speaker 3: Hey boo, it's me Roz. Happy November. Happy, Halloween's over. Hey,
Speaker 3: it's still gonna be happy over here because as always,
Speaker 3: I'm gonna be talking about spooky things all year long.
Speaker 3: And I'm so honored that you are still joining me
Speaker 3: post Halloween. And I got a good one for you
Speaker 3: today because I've got Allison Miller on the show, who
Speaker 3: you may know from the hit ABC series A Million
Speaker 3: little things. I don't know if you can tell from
Speaker 3: my voice, but I am a little bit tired because
Speaker 3: I went hard for Halloween weekends. I did a lot
Speaker 3: of different gigs. I was working a lot, did some
Speaker 3: stand up, did some private parties, hosted a drag brunch. Oh,
Speaker 3: and also I did my first live ghosted show post vaccine.
Speaker 3: I mean, it had been twenty months since the last
Speaker 3: time I did one, and wow, it was magical. People
Speaker 3: were so sweet. People came into town, people made signs.
Speaker 3: I got to meet so many of you wonderful people
Speaker 3: that tune in every week and I.
Speaker 1: Had a great time. I think the show was a hit.
Speaker 3: I surprised the audience with special guest our h S. Davis,
Speaker 3: who I had never met in person before. That was
Speaker 3: the very first time. She's somebody that I met during
Speaker 3: the pandemic over zoom and we talked about her new series,
Speaker 3: which is on two B and you can watch it
Speaker 3: for free. It's a special and it's called Celebrity Exorcism,
Speaker 3: and I really enjoyed it.
Speaker 1: It is her.
Speaker 3: And shar Jackson and who you may know from Moesha,
Speaker 3: and also Jodie Sweden, you know Stephanie Tanner from Full
Speaker 3: House and the basketball Player met a World Peace and
Speaker 3: they spend a lot of time with Rachel S. Davis
Speaker 3: the Exorcist, and they go to some haunted locations. I
Speaker 3: really enjoyed it, so we talked about that, and I
Speaker 3: of course had to have a haunted doll there at
Speaker 3: the live show, and just a lot of spooky, silly
Speaker 3: paranormal I did some paranormal stand up. Now I know
Speaker 3: this is like so rude of me to say, if
Speaker 3: you weren't there. I actually did not record it this time,
Speaker 3: so there won't be any audio from that particular show.
Speaker 3: It was just a one time thing, just a moment
Speaker 3: that happened in Los Angeles Halloween weekend of twenty twenty one.
Speaker 3: But I hope to do more of them. I hope
Speaker 3: to do them in other places, and I hope to
Speaker 3: record them in the future too. But this was just
Speaker 3: sort of a trial, you know, trying to figure out
Speaker 3: how to do these things again, and it all worked out,
Speaker 3: so it was great. Another thing that I did at
Speaker 3: the live show was I finally edited together and showed
Speaker 3: my UFO footage from when I went to Sedona and
Speaker 3: went on a UFO tour, I guess that's what they
Speaker 3: called it. And I held my phone up to some
Speaker 3: night vision goggles and I captured some unexplained things in
Speaker 3: the sky flying around, and I did capture on camera
Speaker 3: a moment where one of them lights up as we
Speaker 3: were flashing lasers at it, trying to get it to
Speaker 3: light up at us, and it lit up at us.
Speaker 3: I caught it on camera, and so I showed that
Speaker 3: for the first time, and I decided to finally put
Speaker 3: that on Patreon. So if you want to go to
Speaker 3: my patreon, Patreon dot com, slash Russ drezvelas on my
Speaker 3: first tier. You could watch that footage. It's I think
Speaker 3: it's cool. A lot of people tell me that they
Speaker 3: think it's something. It's it seems to be unexplained. The
Speaker 3: lady that I paid money to to show me these
Speaker 3: UFOs said that that was a UFO, so.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 3: I think it's kind of cool, So you could go
Speaker 3: check that out. So for today's episode, I'm talking to Alison,
Speaker 3: who's an actress and and a wonderful actress, a very
Speaker 3: fun person as well, and she was in a horror
Speaker 3: movie that she tells us kind of had some weird
Speaker 3: spookiness happening behind the scenes.
Speaker 1: It freaks me out. Ooh oh god.
Speaker 3: Well, anyway, I'd say this is enough out of me
Speaker 3: for this intro. But if you want to, as always,
Speaker 3: go to patreon dot com slash whas dress for Us
Speaker 3: for a bonus clip from this episode with Alison Miller.
Speaker 3: You can hear us talking about unexplained phenomenal such as
Speaker 3: time travel, bigfoot, possession, that sort of a thing. And
Speaker 3: you can watch my UFO video there as well. And
Speaker 3: one little note, you will hear somebody talking in the
Speaker 3: background of Allison's audio at a point or two in
Speaker 3: this conversation, it's not a ghost because you know every
Speaker 3: time every time. I love that you guys stay on
Speaker 3: top of this show, because yes, it would be amazing
Speaker 3: if a ghost made a cameo. But I feel like
Speaker 3: every time there's like someone in the background, I should
Speaker 3: just say it ahead of time, because I have I
Speaker 3: do get messages from people saying at thirty six forty
Speaker 3: eight you can hear a ghost.
Speaker 1: In the background.
Speaker 3: It's like, no, that was actually somebody that was over
Speaker 3: here or whatever. At least this time it's a confirmed,
Speaker 3: debunked not a ghost.
Speaker 1: All Right.
Speaker 3: I hope you enjoyed my conversation with Alison Miller On
Speaker 3: with the Show. I am joined by Alison Miller. Hello Allison,
Speaker 3: how are you hi?
Speaker 2: Roz I am great. How are you?
Speaker 1: I'm so good. You are out of town right now.
Speaker 3: I'm assuming a million little things I am.
Speaker 2: I am in the mix of a million little things
Speaker 2: up in Vancouver, BC. This very spooky gray day outside here.
Speaker 3: Oh, perfect for some ghost stories. You're on my my
Speaker 3: parents favorite TV show they love?
Speaker 1: Is that what a lot of parents say.
Speaker 2: It's everyone's mom's favorite show.
Speaker 1: My parents love it.
Speaker 3: I mean I I check in with my mom like
Speaker 3: maybe once a week, and she'd be like, oh, who's
Speaker 3: gonna who's out of your podcast? And a lot of
Speaker 3: times she'll go she she does this thing where I'll
Speaker 3: say someone saying, she goes no, and I go, what
Speaker 3: do you mean? No, this is someone that's odd and
Speaker 3: I say that, No, you don't know. You don't watch
Speaker 3: RuPaul's drag Race. So yeah, maybe you don't know who
Speaker 3: these people are, but I'm telling you they're big stars.
Speaker 3: And then I was like Alison Miller from a million Oh,
Speaker 3: she starts freaking out.
Speaker 1: She's so excited.
Speaker 2: Ah, thanks mom, I appreciate she ate it.
Speaker 3: So okay, I want to I want to talk to
Speaker 3: you about the paranormal on this spooky Vancouver day. So
Speaker 3: you when I Well, first of all, shout out to
Speaker 3: our friend Tipper, my dear dear friend, Tipper Newton, friend
Speaker 3: of the pod. She's been on the show before. Actually
Speaker 3: the two of us went to a seance that might
Speaker 3: have been fake, We're not sure, but either way, we
Speaker 3: had a great time.
Speaker 1: Yes, Tipper.
Speaker 3: Was like, oh my god, my friend Allison has some
Speaker 3: ghost stories and that's how this whole thing got arranged,
Speaker 3: and then I was emailing with you and you're like, oh,
Speaker 3: I thought of more stories, which is like maybe the
Speaker 3: best thing.
Speaker 1: I could ever hear. So I don't know where do
Speaker 1: we begin. What do you believe in?
Speaker 2: Oh? I believe in ghosts strongly because I have experienced
Speaker 2: them firsthand. But I also I mean, look, from a
Speaker 2: very young age, I was hosting seances in my friend's backyards.
Speaker 2: We're always trying to get in touch with the other side.
Speaker 2: I think part of it is growing up Catholic and
Speaker 2: like drinking the blood of Jesus, it'll really get you
Speaker 2: set up for believing in pretty much anything.
Speaker 3: I mean, isn't that like straight up some horror movie,
Speaker 3: like like we're eating We're eating Jesus, drinking his blood.
Speaker 1: I was raised Catholic too, I know.
Speaker 2: I think that's I don't think that that is that's
Speaker 2: a coincidence. I mean when I spent many Halloweens with
Speaker 2: our friend Tipper, and she showed me the movie Ravenous
Speaker 2: for the first time, which is a wonderful period cannibal movie,
Speaker 2: and yeah, it felt a lot like Catholicism to me.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, even the imagery of some of those
Speaker 3: old paintings and stuff. It's like this is terrifying, yes,
Speaker 3: but but then there's also a lot of I mean,
Speaker 3: I'm not I don't want to be disrespectful to Catholics,
Speaker 3: even though I just called their sacrament uh horror film.
Speaker 3: But you know, there's a lot of suspension of disbelief
Speaker 3: or I don't know, but it can open your mind,
Speaker 3: you know, the Holy Spirit. There's there's just so many
Speaker 3: things in Catholicism that if you're taught at a young age,
Speaker 3: I think it can open your mind to different possibilities
Speaker 3: and and especially if you start to learn about like
Speaker 3: exorcisms and stickmata and all this stuff that is like
Speaker 3: literally from horror movies, but but also could make you
Speaker 3: believe in ghosts and all that.
Speaker 2: Oh. I was convinced I was going to get st
Speaker 2: it Mada. I was certain it was. I saw the
Speaker 2: movie and then I was like, well that's it for me.
Speaker 2: I guess it's happening. Chuck my hands. I mean, it
Speaker 2: was just crazy. But I I feel like my my
Speaker 2: experiences with the paranormal or supernatural have all been pretty tame,
Speaker 2: except for the one that I experienced last year. Everything else.
Speaker 1: And then we'll work our way to that one.
Speaker 2: Great, I'll warm it up. So I I have always
Speaker 2: like I'll walk into an old ben breakfast even you know,
Speaker 2: eight years old, I'm walking in there going hi, uh,
Speaker 2: I know you're here. I'm just visiting. I will leave soon.
Speaker 2: If you want to come say hello, that's fine. Nothing.
Speaker 2: I would never get ghosts. I wanted it too badly.
Speaker 2: They could tell I was thirsty.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they can pick up on that. I'm convinced.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think so. They want they want to talk
Speaker 2: to people who don't believe. So I I didn't ever
Speaker 2: get anything exciting or terrifying happening to me. But as
Speaker 2: an adult, I have lost some family members and some
Speaker 2: friends of the family, and I've had several experiences with
Speaker 2: those people either saying goodbye on their way out or
Speaker 2: coming back and saying hi years later. The first time
Speaker 2: that happened, I was in a beach house that we
Speaker 2: had gone to since I was a baby, and I
Speaker 2: was receiving an acupuncture treatment from my cousin's wife because
Speaker 2: she is an acupuncturist, and I was laying down on
Speaker 2: a bed, face down because she does five element acupuncture,
Speaker 2: which is on the back of the body, which I know, Yeah,
Speaker 2: I had never had that before. So I'm laying there
Speaker 2: and the needles are in and I'm sort of falling asleep,
Speaker 2: and I have my face looking towards a bathroom door
Speaker 2: and the door to the bedroom, and I kind of
Speaker 2: doze off because it's very relaxing. And when I am
Speaker 2: coming to from my nap, I hear someone who's sitting
Speaker 2: in a chair behind me. There's like two chairs in
Speaker 2: the little coffee table, and I hear pages turning like
Speaker 2: someone's reading a book. And then at one point I
Speaker 2: hear what sounds like, you know, when someone takes out
Speaker 2: their ear pods or whatever headphones and puts them on
Speaker 2: a table. It's just like a little clink. So I thought, Oh,
Speaker 2: she's gonna come take the needles out of me now
Speaker 2: she's been listening to music or something. And then she
Speaker 2: walks back in the door in front of me, and
Speaker 2: I'm like, who did turn around? And there's no one there.
Speaker 2: So I start thinking about this, and I'm like, oh,
Speaker 2: I'm in the bedroom where my aunt and uncle would
Speaker 2: always sleep when we stayed here, and my aunt is there,
Speaker 2: but she lost her husband. When I was fourteen, and
Speaker 2: he had always been sort of a quiet guy, kept
Speaker 2: to himself, did a lot of reading, a lot of
Speaker 2: crossroad puzzles. And when he was he had lung cancer,
Speaker 2: and when he was in the hospital sort of last days,
Speaker 2: he took me over to his bedside and said, look,
Speaker 2: I think you're a really special kid, and I just
Speaker 2: want you to know that. And we had never had
Speaker 2: a conversation like that before, and I was really touched
Speaker 2: that he wanted to tell me that. And I in
Speaker 2: the moment when I realized that someone had been there,
Speaker 2: I just knew that it was my own uncle and
Speaker 2: that he was like, I'm still here, I'm still hanging out.
Speaker 2: And I was going through a real rough patch in
Speaker 2: my life too, and I felt like such a comforting
Speaker 2: It wasn't scary at all. It was just like, oh,
Speaker 2: thank you, thank you for showing up.
Speaker 3: Oh that's sweet, because I mean, what a time to
Speaker 3: get visited by a ghost when you have needles in
Speaker 3: your back and you literally can't move.
Speaker 1: So that could it could be a very scary thing, but.
Speaker 2: It could have been, but it was I don't know.
Speaker 2: I think every time every time that someone has come
Speaker 2: to me like that, it just feels really nice. And
Speaker 2: it also feels like, Okay, our energy continues to hang
Speaker 2: around here even when people are gone. They're never fully gone.
Speaker 2: I believe that, and so it's just kind of nice.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, So this kind of a thing with like these,
Speaker 3: like a nice visit, that kind of thing has happened
Speaker 3: more than once.
Speaker 2: Yes, So the second time it happened, I had an
Speaker 2: aunt on the other side of my family who was
Speaker 2: also battling lung cancer. Don't smoke, guys, So that was
Speaker 2: She was such an interesting woman. She was the person
Speaker 2: who gave me my first deck of tarot cards. She
Speaker 2: was very into angels and ghosts and all things metaphysical herself,
Speaker 2: So of all the people who would pop in, it
Speaker 2: makes sense that it's her. I was in Los Angeles
Speaker 2: and we were sort of it was her final days,
Speaker 2: and we knew it, and I was just kind of
Speaker 2: waiting for the phone call. And so I was sitting
Speaker 2: in my front yard on the porch and a hummingbird
Speaker 2: came and hovered really like two feet in front of
Speaker 2: my face. And I already felt just sort of a connection,
Speaker 2: like a spiritual connection birds previously, and it always just
Speaker 2: feels really special when they're around. So this little hummingbird's
Speaker 2: hovering and hangs out there for a minute, just right
Speaker 2: in front of my face, and then zips away, and
Speaker 2: I thought, hmm, I feel like that was Susan. And
Speaker 2: twenty minutes later my mom calls and said, Yep, it
Speaker 2: happened about twenty minutes ago she passed, And I just
Speaker 2: I felt like I already knew. It was so strange, wow,
Speaker 2: but also really beautiful, and I I'm convinced that was her,
Speaker 2: and all of this, you know, all of this can
Speaker 2: be explained away by coincidence or just you know, weird
Speaker 2: stuff happening. But it's it's more about the feeling than anything.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, that's that's one thing with any of
Speaker 3: these conversations about this stuff. It's we want answers, but
Speaker 3: it's also like, you know, what if we don't have
Speaker 3: an answer for it, and you can't always scientifically or
Speaker 3: whatever explain a feeling that you have in a moment,
Speaker 3: like when you know something you know and yeah, I mean, yeah,
Speaker 3: who needs who? You don't need to say, oh I
Speaker 3: know for a fact. It was like if you know
Speaker 3: you know, you don't prove that to anyone it's true.
Speaker 2: Yes, And so you know, when I talk about these
Speaker 2: things with people, I'm always giving so many caveats, but
Speaker 2: I think on this podcast, oh no, you're in the
Speaker 2: right place. Yes. So that happened again last year. I
Speaker 2: was I got a call that my who was really sad,
Speaker 2: my mom's best friend's daughter died suddenly. She was just
Speaker 2: in their house and they weren't really sure what happened.
Speaker 2: They think it was like a heart a cardiac event
Speaker 2: of some sort, maybe from some medication she was taking.
Speaker 2: And she was only she's young, she was in her
Speaker 2: early ford and it was just so out of the blue.
Speaker 2: And it was during I think it wasn't during COVID,
Speaker 2: but it was close to that starting and so I
Speaker 2: wasn't able to leave work because I was up in Canada,
Speaker 2: and when I found out about it, I felt bad
Speaker 2: about not being able to go back to Kentucky, which
Speaker 2: is where my family lives. And for the next week,
Speaker 2: I would suddenly feel this hand on my shoulder, on
Speaker 2: my left side of my back, and it really the
Speaker 2: first time it happened. I turned around because I thought
Speaker 2: someone was touching me. Nobody there. I'm alone in my
Speaker 2: apartment and It would happen on and off for about
Speaker 2: seven days after she died, and I felt like she
Speaker 2: was kind of putting her hand on my back and
Speaker 2: saying like, hey, it's okay, you don't need to be here.
Speaker 1: But it wasn't like spooky like it was the first time.
Speaker 2: It was a little spooky, yeah, but I felt so
Speaker 2: receptive to it at that point, and I was like, oh,
Speaker 2: we're doing this again, all right. I had never physically
Speaker 2: felt anything, and since then, I was just talking to
Speaker 2: my friend who lost someone last year, and she said
Speaker 2: she is constantly feeling someone's hand on her ankle when
Speaker 2: she's in bed at night. She swears at him. Oh wow,
Speaker 2: I've heard a lot of people say things like that,
Speaker 2: so who knows.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, that's definitely one thing that could be
Speaker 3: very scary, but also not. You know, it depends. It
Speaker 3: depends who it is and the feeling you get from it.
Speaker 2: It's true. I've heard so many terrifying stories that really
Speaker 2: make you know, make the hair on your next stand up.
Speaker 2: These were not that. My last real legit story got me.
Speaker 2: He actually scared me.
Speaker 1: Okay, let's get into the spookiness.
Speaker 2: All right. So in recent years, I have given in
Speaker 2: to my passion for all things witchcraft. That was what
Speaker 2: I loved as a kid, and it's just never gone away.
Speaker 2: And now I feel like it's very trendy to be
Speaker 2: into all things like her medic.
Speaker 3: Oh, witchcraft is having her moment these days. It's wonderful though.
Speaker 3: I think it's kind of cool. But wait, wait a second.
Speaker 3: So when you were growing up, so you were raised Catholic,
Speaker 3: but I mean you also had the aunt that gave
Speaker 3: you the tarot cards. You were doing seances. So when
Speaker 3: you did these seances, did anything ever happen?
Speaker 2: I mean we were so little, we were like little
Speaker 2: kids doing these things, nine ten years old, and it
Speaker 2: was at sleepovers and so sure, yeah, all kinds of
Speaker 2: crazy stuff happened. And then you would find out it
Speaker 2: was like somebody's big brother turn all the lights off
Speaker 2: in the house. I mean I wanted more. I watched
Speaker 2: the movie The Craft when I was ten, and I
Speaker 2: was like, yes, bring it on, all the scary stuff.
Speaker 2: I want to change my eye color. I want to
Speaker 2: turn into somebody else. I was so thrilling. I want
Speaker 2: to be for Ujia balk and like go to the
Speaker 2: dark side.
Speaker 1: Yes, got I love that movie.
Speaker 3: You know, I've found where that store is. It's on
Speaker 3: it's on I think it's on Hollywood Boulevard. It's just like,
Speaker 3: I don't know what it is now, but at least
Speaker 3: the exterior of it, it like kind of looks the
Speaker 3: exact same.
Speaker 1: And I ever time I'm in.
Speaker 3: Hollywood, I drive by just to look at it because
Speaker 3: I love that movie so much.
Speaker 2: Oh, that's so great. I didn't even realize they used
Speaker 2: of course they would have an exterior or somewhere that's real.
Speaker 2: It's fun. Yeah, this is also making me think I
Speaker 2: forgot I shot a movie in New Orleans where I
Speaker 2: was pregnant with the Satan's baby, so there was all
Speaker 2: kinds of stuff that happened. Congratulations, thank you, We're very happy.
Speaker 3: Wait, okay, new Orleans just being there alone, did you
Speaker 3: I mean.
Speaker 2: So haunted?
Speaker 3: Yes, I feel like everybody that's ever been to New
Speaker 3: Orleans is like you can just feel ghosts everywhere.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's creepy. It's creepy everywhere. The whole Yes, the
Speaker 2: whole place feels haunted. I remember I read this Tom
Speaker 2: Robbins book called Jitterbug Perfume, and it all takes place
Speaker 2: in New Orleans. I read it before I went there,
Speaker 2: and he talked about how and you land at the airport,
Speaker 2: you get off the plane and the air just like
Speaker 2: just becomes like this wet dog humping your leg like
Speaker 2: that's that's the energy. And the only way to conquer
Speaker 2: it is by eating heavy Southern food. So that's what
Speaker 2: I was doing. And luckily it was playing a pregnant woman,
Speaker 2: so it did not matter what it's It's called Devil's Do.
Speaker 2: Let's let's pimp it out. It's called Devil's Do. I'm
Speaker 2: sure it's available in all sorts of places. And while
Speaker 2: we were filming, we tried to film in a church twice.
Speaker 2: The first time there was a horrible storm and the
Speaker 2: electricity was knocked out in the whole building. Maybe we
Speaker 2: should have taken that it's a sign to stop trying
Speaker 2: to do that. Came back, We came back and did more,
Speaker 2: and we're filming a scene where, you know, a priest
Speaker 2: gets a bloody nose and he's suddenly overcome by Satan's wrath.
Speaker 2: And I'm sitting in an aisle with my pregnant belly
Speaker 2: like whispering, you know, you know, the good stuff. And
Speaker 2: then I found out that the airbnb that I was
Speaker 2: renting was a former housing for priests.
Speaker 1: Oh my god.
Speaker 2: So I'm living in the attic of this old, beautiful
Speaker 2: mansion and it's this really nicely updated, modern airbnb. But yeah,
Speaker 2: not not good. And I definitely felt like I was
Speaker 2: carrying around some creepy stuff. We had all sorts of
Speaker 2: things where our characters go to a palm reader and
Speaker 2: she ends up we're in the Dominican Republic and she
Speaker 2: ends up like grabbing my wrists in telling me that
Speaker 2: I'm damned, and uh it felt I ended up getting
Speaker 2: really sick on that movie and it lasted for years.
Speaker 1: So whoa.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it felt like, you know, when they talk about
Speaker 2: the exor system all of the bad things that happen
Speaker 2: on that set and afterwards.
Speaker 1: Uh, I think I.
Speaker 2: Think there's something to that, and that's uh, I don't know.
Speaker 2: I don't know how much more horror movies I want
Speaker 2: to shoot in New Orleans specifically.
Speaker 3: Well, especially these demon type movies. I mean, I feel
Speaker 3: like it's really hard growing up Catholic because I my
Speaker 3: instinct is to be.
Speaker 1: Like, yep, that's what happens when you mess with that stuff.
Speaker 1: But yeah, but it. Uh.
Speaker 3: There there are many big, huge movies about demons, like
Speaker 3: The Omen is another one that has had reports of,
Speaker 3: you know, this kind of cursed film type thing where
Speaker 3: all this weird stuff kept happening and all these accidents.
Speaker 3: And what's another one, uh, Rosemary's Baby I think had
Speaker 3: some some weird, you know, curse type stuff happening.
Speaker 1: I mean it's kind.
Speaker 2: Of a landscape sort of cursed in and so well yeah,
Speaker 2: but yeah, it's there's so much creepy. There's so much
Speaker 2: creepy stuff with that. That's why I'm I'm of course
Speaker 2: trying to write a show about witchcraft and demons now,
Speaker 2: and it's taking me forever because I keep stopping myself
Speaker 2: and going, do I really want to dive into this? Uh?
Speaker 2: It scares me so maybe not. But that does kind
Speaker 2: of lead into my my final moment of terror that
Speaker 2: I had last year.
Speaker 3: Okay, okay, but what what were one more thing before
Speaker 3: before we get into this story. Yeah, as you're working
Speaker 3: on this this demon project or whatever, I one of
Speaker 3: the best things that has happened to me with doing
Speaker 3: this podcast is talking to people that really specialize in
Speaker 3: demons and the dark sided stuff. And I have learned
Speaker 3: a lot from talking to these people, and I feel
Speaker 3: like I feel like I have such a better understanding
Speaker 3: of this, of all the stuff that I get scared about.
Speaker 3: They've put my mind at ease, even if it's just knowing, Oh,
Speaker 3: now I know who to call if some shit goes down.
Speaker 3: I have a couple of people I can talk to now.
Speaker 3: So there are there are people out there that that
Speaker 3: have put my mind at ease, and I could give
Speaker 3: you some names if you'd.
Speaker 2: Like I want them. I also am just going to
Speaker 2: go back and listen to all these episodes and hear
Speaker 2: the professionals, Oh, this is so great. Yeah, it is,
Speaker 2: because you can, you can really creep yourself out, and
Speaker 2: I did that with this. It's it's honestly, it's a
Speaker 2: it's a remake of a foreign TV show that I'm
Speaker 2: going to pitch a sort of reimagining of an americanizing
Speaker 2: if you will, we love to do that. But in
Speaker 2: the way that I'm doing it, I've realized that if
Speaker 2: I can take this sort of demon lore and spin
Speaker 2: it into a commentary on the patriarchy, that maybe it
Speaker 2: is doing more good than harm. And so that's that's
Speaker 2: my way. That's my way in, so hopefully I don't
Speaker 2: get haunted.
Speaker 1: It sounds great.
Speaker 2: Yeah, So with that side, I last year I took
Speaker 2: a little weekend trip to get some writing done and
Speaker 2: it wasn't on this project. It's on something else. I
Speaker 2: just up in BC. There is a Vancouver Island, which
Speaker 2: is where Victoria is, and you take a ferry to
Speaker 2: cross the water, and then I drove way far north,
Speaker 2: like four hours north onto the island. It's very remote,
Speaker 2: little fishing town. Because I found a cool Airbnb house
Speaker 2: and just wanted to be without distraction entirely. And at
Speaker 2: the same time I was also starting to I essentially
Speaker 2: wanted to start my grimoire. I don't know if you're
Speaker 2: familiar with that term. It's basically a grimware like a
Speaker 2: book of spells essentially. So I got this book, I
Speaker 2: got my candles, I got all of my accouterment for
Speaker 2: beginning the sort of spiritual practice that I wanted to
Speaker 2: dive into more. And I got to the airbnb and
Speaker 2: I set up all my things and it was all
Speaker 2: very romantic and nice solo time, and I just wrote
Speaker 2: in this journal essentially I want to expand my my
Speaker 2: horizons and my perspective on energies and entities, and I
Speaker 2: wanted to work with some you know, goddesses like Freya
Speaker 2: and who was I really into at the time, Selene,
Speaker 2: the moon goddess. And so I was just putting all
Speaker 2: of that into this book and saying, I really am
Speaker 2: doing this for only positive reasons, only good things. I
Speaker 2: want to be a beacon of light and take on
Speaker 2: sort of the characteristics of these entities that I am
Speaker 2: not even praying to or worship, but just sort of
Speaker 2: speaking in conversation with. So I write everything down, I
Speaker 2: have a glass of wine, and I probably watch something
Speaker 2: on Netflix, and then I go to sleep. Next morning,
Speaker 2: I wake up and it's this beautiful, bright room and
Speaker 2: I can see the ocean at the window on one side.
Speaker 2: It's all gray and foggy, as it always is here,
Speaker 2: and there's a fly in the room and I'm just like, oh,
Speaker 2: that's annoying. And I get up and I'm like, how
Speaker 2: do I get this fly? And I'm like, wait, there's
Speaker 2: a bunch of flies in this room. And I hear
Speaker 2: a sound and I walk over to the closet and
Speaker 2: the closet is covered in flies, and that is where
Speaker 2: all of my clothing and my suitcases and there it's
Speaker 2: gross and it kind of smells weird. And then I
Speaker 2: I'm like, I have to call the woman who owns
Speaker 2: the serbianb and say, like, you have an infestation, something's wrong.
Speaker 2: Then I'm walking to get my cell phone and I
Speaker 2: look out the front window of this house and the
Speaker 2: entire front of the house is covered in flies. They're
Speaker 2: all trying to get in summer getting in. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: I am god so creeped out. I do call the
Speaker 2: woman who owns the place. Her mom comes over with
Speaker 2: like a handy back and some duct tape, and she's
Speaker 2: just like, I don't know what's happening. My daughter's out
Speaker 2: of town. Let me just there's like a there's one
Speaker 2: little hole in the closet where like a duct was
Speaker 2: coming out of the ceiling which went to the attic.
Speaker 2: So my assumption is that something went up there died
Speaker 2: and the flies got it. But that happened fast. Yeah,
Speaker 2: not there, nothing's wrong. The night before overnight suddenly this
Speaker 2: house is covered in flies.
Speaker 3: And so but it must have smelled strong to flies
Speaker 3: because them trying to get in like that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I didn't I hadn't smelled anything, and I
Speaker 2: have a anyone will tell you, I'm a super sniffer,
Speaker 2: Like if there's trash down the street, I know it's there.
Speaker 2: So this was unusual, and I was just it was
Speaker 2: the first time I got really I got shaken, and
Speaker 2: I just was like, I can't stay here another night.
Speaker 2: That's not possible. So I just got all my things
Speaker 2: and I got out of there. But I drove the
Speaker 2: four hours back to the ferry, took the ferry across,
Speaker 2: and as I'm on the ferry, I start doing all
Speaker 2: of these sort of psychic protection things, like, you know,
Speaker 2: creating a boundary around myself, just energetically with my little brain.
Speaker 2: And I have been reading this book called Psychic Witch.
Speaker 2: Who I think it's written by Matt Ward. I could
Speaker 2: have that name wrong, but it's a really it was
Speaker 2: a great book and I'm very into it. So I
Speaker 2: get back. I drive all the way back to Vancouver.
Speaker 2: I'm back in my apartment that I live in with
Speaker 2: my partner and our dogs. And the next night I
Speaker 2: staged our place, the whole thing, just in case something
Speaker 2: came back with me. Because of course, I start googling
Speaker 2: and I'm like, what the flies mean? What is this?
Speaker 2: And it's like, this is the demon I can't even
Speaker 2: remember by ell or something. I was just horrified and
Speaker 2: felt like I had suddenly just made myself a magnet
Speaker 2: for evil. So I get back and I do all
Speaker 2: these things. And then my dog, who is very large,
Speaker 2: he's like a one hundred pound mastiff, is sleeping in bed
Speaker 2: with me at night and he wakes me up and
Speaker 2: he's standing on the bed and he is staring in
Speaker 2: the corner of the room and he is barking, Oh.
Speaker 1: I hate that.
Speaker 2: Damn it. It was, And so I just thought, yeah, okay,
Speaker 2: well it's done. I'm I'm I'm cursed forever. And I
Speaker 2: brought this thing back with me and I opened this
Speaker 2: portal and I became like a like a lighthouse for
Speaker 2: super entities, and so I just was not able to
Speaker 2: sleep that next night, went around did all kinds of things.
Speaker 2: I mean, I was like calling my friends who are
Speaker 2: more experienced with that kind of stuff than I am,
Speaker 2: and doing what they told me to do, and like
Speaker 2: setting up water in little bowls everywhere and saging again.
Speaker 2: And eventually we ended up moving out of that place
Speaker 2: because our land lady was crazy. So that turned out fine.
Speaker 3: But I mean, like the second night, or you know,
Speaker 3: the next night after the the dog situation, did anything.
Speaker 2: Happen or I started having really strange dreams. And I
Speaker 2: don't know if that's just purely anxiety, but I was.
Speaker 2: I just had this very ill at ease, feeling like
Speaker 2: I was vulnerable in a way that I had not
Speaker 2: been before, and so I just kind of start it
Speaker 2: felt like I was just doing psychic protection and just
Speaker 2: blocking out anything that could possibly come in. I was
Speaker 2: doing a lot of kind of guided meditations around like
Speaker 2: I am inside of a bubble of light and nothing
Speaker 2: can come in, only energy can flow out. So after that,
Speaker 2: I eased off.
Speaker 4: I eased off of the practice, which I'm I'm not
Speaker 4: thrilled about because it was really fun and I was
Speaker 4: having such a i don't know, an emotionally charged and
Speaker 4: exciting time.
Speaker 2: I just felt more connected to my own spirituality than
Speaker 2: I had in a while. So I'm gonna get back
Speaker 2: into it, but I think I need to do some more.
Speaker 2: It's more practice. Before I opened things up the way
Speaker 2: that I did.
Speaker 3: Well, I mean, it's possible that it's not related to
Speaker 3: that there could have been something spooky going on.
Speaker 1: In that airbnb.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it could have just been coincidence. And I know,
Speaker 2: I do know that the woman who owned the airbnb
Speaker 2: had been having a really hard time in her life
Speaker 2: and this project, this house was her project that she
Speaker 2: bought renovated. It was like a way for her to
Speaker 2: move forward. I think after she I believe she lost
Speaker 2: her husband, is what her mom was saying. And she
Speaker 2: has kids, and it'd been a really hard year. And
Speaker 2: so maybe it was just a combination of too many
Speaker 2: things for that poor house at once.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Well, especially hotels, airbnbs, you never know what people are
Speaker 3: renting those things to.
Speaker 1: Do or that's true, who they are.
Speaker 3: And what they're leaving there and what's coming back to Vancouver.
Speaker 2: That's absolutely true. And man, I have so many people
Speaker 2: give me Polo santo all the time. I have so
Speaker 2: many sticks of it laying around. I'm just like, I
Speaker 2: need to I need to burn this stuff and not
Speaker 2: just put it in a little bag under my safe.
Speaker 1: I say, embrace your psychic witchery.
Speaker 2: I think I want to and I have to. I
Speaker 2: have to not let it scare me in the way
Speaker 2: that it has because it's something. I mean, I love it.
Speaker 2: I love it and I believe in it, and I
Speaker 2: have friends who are on the same page and we
Speaker 2: talk about it all the time. I I don't know.
Speaker 2: I was taking classes with this woman, Naha A Mahdi,
Speaker 2: who's in La. She's from the House of Intuition, Yes,
Speaker 2: and she teaches candles and the biz fantastic candles. She
Speaker 2: does middle pillar healing, which is sort of a beautiful practice,
Speaker 2: sort of a somatic spiritual practice that's a little Reiky esque.
Speaker 2: But this woman is straight up just she's a witch
Speaker 2: and she does taro readings and I've had incredible readings
Speaker 2: with her too, So I don't know, it's beautiful, it's
Speaker 2: beautiful stuff. I just I got scared that one time
Speaker 2: and I'm backed way off.
Speaker 3: Well, okay, I'm not a witch. But my understanding from
Speaker 3: reading books and talking to people and blah blah blah,
Speaker 3: is all of this stuff is about intention. And you know,
Speaker 3: if you're if you're not looking for trouble, you probably
Speaker 3: won't find trouble. Or you know, if you do find trouble,
Speaker 3: your conviction of trying to get it away from you
Speaker 3: will keep it away. I actually I have a really
Speaker 3: good interview. It's with Michelle Bell and Jay, who's an
Speaker 3: occult expert, and she wrote a book about the occult
Speaker 3: and it's connection to the paranormal and ghost hunting and stuff,
Speaker 3: and we get into this stuff all about that she
Speaker 3: knows all about the demons and she's a demonologist and
Speaker 3: all of that.
Speaker 2: Well, I love it. I'm definitely gonna listen to that.
Speaker 1: Do you want to hear some ghost voices?
Speaker 2: Oh?
Speaker 1: Do? I?
Speaker 3: Okay, it's time for ev.
Speaker 1: Or ev Pase.
Speaker 3: Do you know what EVP is? No, it's electronic voice phenomena.
Speaker 3: So it's when like ghost hunters capture what they believe
Speaker 3: is a ghost voice. And so I go to YouTube,
Speaker 3: I look for EVPs and then i'll play it for
Speaker 3: I'll play you which what I've found. I've found two
Speaker 3: of them, and I'm gonna have you guess what you
Speaker 3: hear and then I'll give you some options of what
Speaker 3: the ghost hunter believes they've heard. Okay, so this first
Speaker 3: one is from ghost I want to say this.
Speaker 1: You say their name?
Speaker 3: It's an apostrophe at ghost net on YouTube and it's
Speaker 3: at Castle Blood, which I wish I'd have done more
Speaker 3: research on that, because what a name Castle Blood in Monas?
Speaker 1: Why can I not read?
Speaker 3: Well, these are hard words, honest sin Monessin. It's in
Speaker 3: a place in Pennsylvania.
Speaker 2: Oh, I'm googling it to.
Speaker 3: Mon ssn Pennsylvania. Monessin, moniessin Castle Blood sounds like a
Speaker 3: lovely place to be. And uh, this is a ghost
Speaker 3: speaking at this place.
Speaker 1: Tell me what you hear? Wait, I need to turn
Speaker 1: this ship up. Okay, one more time. Do you hear it? Ghost?
Speaker 1: We played again.
Speaker 2: I mean what I hear is a car door closing?
Speaker 2: To me?
Speaker 1: Well, I did again?
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, no, no, Well I'll give you some options.
Speaker 3: One of these is correct. None of them are a
Speaker 3: car door closing.
Speaker 2: Okay, I'm wrong.
Speaker 3: Okay, is it A I'm none of them?
Speaker 1: Is it B?
Speaker 3: That's super dumb? Is it C it's your birthday? Or
Speaker 3: d unbreak my heart? Maybe they're a Tony Braxton fan.
Speaker 2: I don't know all from the other side. Yeah, is deep.
Speaker 1: Well here we're gonna play it again. Tell me you
Speaker 1: hear one of those.
Speaker 2: I mean, the closest thing I think would be I'm
Speaker 2: none of them.
Speaker 1: Yes, that's what they believe. That's what they believe, it says.
Speaker 1: Let me play it again. I'm none of them.
Speaker 3: I kind of hear it now. Well, okay, so what
Speaker 3: they asked was are you a man or a woman?
Speaker 3: And it's I'm none of them. I'm like, okay, there's
Speaker 3: aable non binary content here.
Speaker 1: Wait, let me play it again. I'm none of them.
Speaker 2: It's scarier when you do it.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, definitely, for sure. I'm available for your demon
Speaker 3: movie or your TV show.
Speaker 2: You're high it?
Speaker 1: Okay, here's another one.
Speaker 3: This is also from ghost Nat and it is at
Speaker 3: the Hanky Mansion. What a name in that place too,
Speaker 3: Hanky Mansion in Oakdale, Pennsylvania, which is near Pittsburgh. And
Speaker 3: this one got me. Okay, here we go. It's also
Speaker 3: these are both kind of scratchy voices, these Pennsylvania ghosts.
Speaker 2: But they're dehydrated in Pennsylvania.
Speaker 1: On the other side. All right, let me play it again.
Speaker 1: And he guesses maybe like.
Speaker 2: I don't want to go.
Speaker 3: That's a good guess. Wait, let me pay it. Okay,
Speaker 3: let me give you some options. Okay, And again, to
Speaker 3: be fair, nobody knows the real answer. It could be that,
Speaker 3: but this is the answer that they chose.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 3: Is it a why don't we kiss?
Speaker 1: Is it B I don't work here? Which is hilarious.
Speaker 1: Is it c.
Speaker 3: Uh watch where you're walking, which that's scary. That's like
Speaker 3: you could be walking through a ghost or is it
Speaker 3: d My name is Joaquin. All right, it's one of those.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna play it again.
Speaker 2: Oh oh, I totally hear I don't work here.
Speaker 3: It's totally I don't work here, which is hilarious. They asked,
Speaker 3: are you the baker who works here at the Hanky Mansion?
Speaker 3: And they heard this ghost saying I don't work here.
Speaker 2: I love it so clear and directly.
Speaker 1: I know, let's hear it one more time. Totally.
Speaker 3: That spooked me when I heard it, but it's also hilarious.
Speaker 2: I'm just imagining, like this ghost is wearing a polo shirt.
Speaker 3: That is exactly what I was thinking, Like when you're
Speaker 3: at Target and you happen to have a red polo
Speaker 3: on and then there Yep, exactly, Alison, that's about it.
Speaker 1: Great, This, this is it.
Speaker 3: This has been so fun. You you came with the stories.
Speaker 2: And yeah, thank you for letting me unload.
Speaker 3: Oh my god, anytime. I mean, are you open to
Speaker 3: more experiences? It seems like you are.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I mean yes, absolutely, And I'm sure there's
Speaker 2: more coming for me, So I'm just gonna gird my
Speaker 2: loins and prepare for it.
Speaker 1: They're coming for you.
Speaker 3: Okay, Well, can you tell everybody you know where to
Speaker 3: find yea and all that stuff.
Speaker 1: And I'm all ghosts can find.
Speaker 2: You, Ghosts can find me in Vancouver, BC. They know
Speaker 2: where to find me. Everybody else internet wise, I'm I'm
Speaker 2: all over as Alison E. Miller. That's at Alison E.
Speaker 2: Miller and all the all the things, the Twitter and
Speaker 2: Instagram stuff. Yeah, and then you can watch my TV
Speaker 2: show if you want to. Everybody's mom loves it. Maybe
Speaker 2: should watch it with your mom.
Speaker 3: Yes, and also watch it for dear friend of this podcast, Pancake, who's.
Speaker 2: Please watch it for Sampancake. He's back this season. We're
Speaker 2: very exciting. Yay.
Speaker 1: Thank you so much to Alison Miller.
Speaker 3: Check her out on a Million Little Things, and also
Speaker 3: go to patreon dot com slash Rozdresfales to see my
Speaker 3: UFO footage and also on my second tier you can
Speaker 3: hear Alison talking.
Speaker 1: A little bit more about.
Speaker 3: Some various paranormal phenomenals and she's got some great things
Speaker 3: to say about it. I really like talking to her.
Speaker 3: She's cool. So anyway, I hope you guys are subscribed
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Speaker 3: and if you have a ghost story, you can leave
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Speaker 1: Kind of stuff. They're really cute.
Speaker 3: I like them. I love you all, both living and dead.
Speaker 1: But if I didn't ask you to haunt me, don't
Speaker 1: haunt me. Okay, Bye.
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