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Speaker 3: Hey boo, it's me Roz. Happy November. Happy, Halloween's over. Hey,

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Speaker 3: it's still gonna be happy over here because as always,

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna be talking about spooky things all year long.

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Speaker 3: And I'm so honored that you are still joining me

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Speaker 3: post Halloween. And I got a good one for you

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Speaker 3: today because I've got Allison Miller on the show, who

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Speaker 3: you may know from the hit ABC series A Million

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Speaker 3: little things. I don't know if you can tell from

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Speaker 3: I went hard for Halloween weekends. I did a lot

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Speaker 3: and also I did my first live ghosted show post vaccine.

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Speaker 3: I mean, it had been twenty months since the last

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Speaker 1: Had a great time. I think the show was a hit.

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Speaker 3: I surprised the audience with special guest our h S. Davis,

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Speaker 3: you weren't there. I actually did not record it this time,

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Speaker 3: It was just a one time thing, just a moment

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Speaker 3: But I hope to do more of them. I hope

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Speaker 3: check that out. So for today's episode, I'm talking to Alison,

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Speaker 3: I hope you enjoyed my conversation with Alison Miller On

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Speaker 2: Roz I am great. How are you?

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Speaker 1: I'm so good. You are out of town right now.

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Speaker 3: Oh, perfect for some ghost stories. You're on my my

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it felt like, you know, when they talk about

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Speaker 3: Okay, okay, but what what were one more thing before

435
00:27:55,320 --> 00:27:58,800
Speaker 3: before we get into this story. Yeah, as you're working

436
00:27:58,800 --> 00:28:03,800
Speaker 3: on this this demon project or whatever, I one of

437
00:28:03,880 --> 00:28:06,040
Speaker 3: the best things that has happened to me with doing

438
00:28:06,119 --> 00:28:10,639
Speaker 3: this podcast is talking to people that really specialize in

439
00:28:10,840 --> 00:28:16,399
Speaker 3: demons and the dark sided stuff. And I have learned

440
00:28:16,400 --> 00:28:19,439
Speaker 3: a lot from talking to these people, and I feel

441
00:28:19,480 --> 00:28:22,480
Speaker 3: like I feel like I have such a better understanding

442
00:28:22,480 --> 00:28:24,800
Speaker 3: of this, of all the stuff that I get scared about.

443
00:28:25,280 --> 00:28:28,600
Speaker 3: They've put my mind at ease, even if it's just knowing, Oh,

444
00:28:28,640 --> 00:28:31,760
Speaker 3: now I know who to call if some shit goes down.

445
00:28:32,600 --> 00:28:35,359
Speaker 3: I have a couple of people I can talk to now.

446
00:28:36,760 --> 00:28:41,640
Speaker 3: So there are there are people out there that that

447
00:28:41,960 --> 00:28:45,000
Speaker 3: have put my mind at ease, and I could give

448
00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:46,360
Speaker 3: you some names if you'd.

449
00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:48,440
Speaker 2: Like I want them. I also am just going to

450
00:28:48,520 --> 00:28:51,440
Speaker 2: go back and listen to all these episodes and hear

451
00:28:51,520 --> 00:28:56,680
Speaker 2: the professionals, Oh, this is so great. Yeah, it is,

452
00:28:56,760 --> 00:29:00,520
Speaker 2: because you can, you can really creep yourself out, and

453
00:29:01,520 --> 00:29:06,160
Speaker 2: I did that with this. It's it's honestly, it's a

454
00:29:06,240 --> 00:29:10,280
Speaker 2: it's a remake of a foreign TV show that I'm

455
00:29:10,440 --> 00:29:15,760
Speaker 2: going to pitch a sort of reimagining of an americanizing

456
00:29:15,920 --> 00:29:20,680
Speaker 2: if you will, we love to do that. But in

457
00:29:21,120 --> 00:29:23,440
Speaker 2: the way that I'm doing it, I've realized that if

458
00:29:23,480 --> 00:29:28,400
Speaker 2: I can take this sort of demon lore and spin

459
00:29:28,480 --> 00:29:32,640
Speaker 2: it into a commentary on the patriarchy, that maybe it

460
00:29:32,760 --> 00:29:37,640
Speaker 2: is doing more good than harm. And so that's that's

461
00:29:37,680 --> 00:29:42,200
Speaker 2: my way. That's my way in, so hopefully I don't

462
00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:43,000
Speaker 2: get haunted.

463
00:29:43,840 --> 00:29:44,720
Speaker 1: It sounds great.

464
00:29:45,600 --> 00:29:53,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, So with that side, I last year I took

465
00:29:53,440 --> 00:29:57,360
Speaker 2: a little weekend trip to get some writing done and

466
00:29:57,400 --> 00:29:59,600
Speaker 2: it wasn't on this project. It's on something else. I

467
00:29:59,800 --> 00:30:04,760
Speaker 2: just up in BC. There is a Vancouver Island, which

468
00:30:04,760 --> 00:30:08,200
Speaker 2: is where Victoria is, and you take a ferry to

469
00:30:08,280 --> 00:30:12,240
Speaker 2: cross the water, and then I drove way far north,

470
00:30:12,320 --> 00:30:15,040
Speaker 2: like four hours north onto the island. It's very remote,

471
00:30:15,160 --> 00:30:18,760
Speaker 2: little fishing town. Because I found a cool Airbnb house

472
00:30:19,120 --> 00:30:25,600
Speaker 2: and just wanted to be without distraction entirely. And at

473
00:30:25,600 --> 00:30:30,960
Speaker 2: the same time I was also starting to I essentially

474
00:30:30,960 --> 00:30:33,560
Speaker 2: wanted to start my grimoire. I don't know if you're

475
00:30:33,600 --> 00:30:38,960
Speaker 2: familiar with that term. It's basically a grimware like a

476
00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:43,360
Speaker 2: book of spells essentially. So I got this book, I

477
00:30:43,400 --> 00:30:48,120
Speaker 2: got my candles, I got all of my accouterment for

478
00:30:48,680 --> 00:30:51,960
Speaker 2: beginning the sort of spiritual practice that I wanted to

479
00:30:52,040 --> 00:30:57,760
Speaker 2: dive into more. And I got to the airbnb and

480
00:30:57,840 --> 00:31:00,280
Speaker 2: I set up all my things and it was all

481
00:31:00,400 --> 00:31:04,920
Speaker 2: very romantic and nice solo time, and I just wrote

482
00:31:04,960 --> 00:31:13,640
Speaker 2: in this journal essentially I want to expand my my

483
00:31:13,760 --> 00:31:19,560
Speaker 2: horizons and my perspective on energies and entities, and I

484
00:31:19,600 --> 00:31:26,520
Speaker 2: wanted to work with some you know, goddesses like Freya

485
00:31:27,240 --> 00:31:32,400
Speaker 2: and who was I really into at the time, Selene,

486
00:31:32,560 --> 00:31:36,240
Speaker 2: the moon goddess. And so I was just putting all

487
00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:41,480
Speaker 2: of that into this book and saying, I really am

488
00:31:41,600 --> 00:31:48,480
Speaker 2: doing this for only positive reasons, only good things. I

489
00:31:48,520 --> 00:31:51,800
Speaker 2: want to be a beacon of light and take on

490
00:31:52,080 --> 00:31:57,680
Speaker 2: sort of the characteristics of these entities that I am

491
00:31:57,720 --> 00:32:01,080
Speaker 2: not even praying to or worship, but just sort of

492
00:32:01,120 --> 00:32:07,560
Speaker 2: speaking in conversation with. So I write everything down, I

493
00:32:07,600 --> 00:32:10,280
Speaker 2: have a glass of wine, and I probably watch something

494
00:32:10,320 --> 00:32:14,000
Speaker 2: on Netflix, and then I go to sleep. Next morning,

495
00:32:14,040 --> 00:32:17,760
Speaker 2: I wake up and it's this beautiful, bright room and

496
00:32:17,800 --> 00:32:21,560
Speaker 2: I can see the ocean at the window on one side.

497
00:32:21,600 --> 00:32:24,080
Speaker 2: It's all gray and foggy, as it always is here,

498
00:32:24,760 --> 00:32:28,080
Speaker 2: and there's a fly in the room and I'm just like, oh,

499
00:32:28,120 --> 00:32:30,360
Speaker 2: that's annoying. And I get up and I'm like, how

500
00:32:30,400 --> 00:32:32,560
Speaker 2: do I get this fly? And I'm like, wait, there's

501
00:32:32,560 --> 00:32:39,120
Speaker 2: a bunch of flies in this room. And I hear

502
00:32:40,160 --> 00:32:44,640
Speaker 2: a sound and I walk over to the closet and

503
00:32:44,800 --> 00:32:49,800
Speaker 2: the closet is covered in flies, and that is where

504
00:32:49,840 --> 00:32:54,480
Speaker 2: all of my clothing and my suitcases and there it's

505
00:32:55,360 --> 00:33:00,960
Speaker 2: gross and it kind of smells weird. And then I

506
00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:03,120
Speaker 2: I'm like, I have to call the woman who owns

507
00:33:03,120 --> 00:33:07,560
Speaker 2: the serbianb and say, like, you have an infestation, something's wrong.

508
00:33:07,920 --> 00:33:09,840
Speaker 2: Then I'm walking to get my cell phone and I

509
00:33:09,880 --> 00:33:13,400
Speaker 2: look out the front window of this house and the

510
00:33:13,760 --> 00:33:19,040
Speaker 2: entire front of the house is covered in flies. They're

511
00:33:19,080 --> 00:33:24,320
Speaker 2: all trying to get in summer getting in. Yeah, yeah,

512
00:33:24,640 --> 00:33:29,400
Speaker 2: I am god so creeped out. I do call the

513
00:33:29,440 --> 00:33:32,040
Speaker 2: woman who owns the place. Her mom comes over with

514
00:33:32,080 --> 00:33:38,600
Speaker 2: like a handy back and some duct tape, and she's

515
00:33:38,720 --> 00:33:41,200
Speaker 2: just like, I don't know what's happening. My daughter's out

516
00:33:41,200 --> 00:33:44,320
Speaker 2: of town. Let me just there's like a there's one

517
00:33:44,320 --> 00:33:47,440
Speaker 2: little hole in the closet where like a duct was

518
00:33:47,480 --> 00:33:51,080
Speaker 2: coming out of the ceiling which went to the attic.

519
00:33:51,240 --> 00:33:55,000
Speaker 2: So my assumption is that something went up there died

520
00:33:55,160 --> 00:33:59,000
Speaker 2: and the flies got it. But that happened fast. Yeah,

521
00:34:00,120 --> 00:34:03,880
Speaker 2: not there, nothing's wrong. The night before overnight suddenly this

522
00:34:03,960 --> 00:34:07,040
Speaker 2: house is covered in flies.

523
00:34:07,360 --> 00:34:10,760
Speaker 3: And so but it must have smelled strong to flies

524
00:34:10,960 --> 00:34:13,319
Speaker 3: because them trying to get in like that.

525
00:34:14,480 --> 00:34:17,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I didn't I hadn't smelled anything, and I

526
00:34:17,800 --> 00:34:20,400
Speaker 2: have a anyone will tell you, I'm a super sniffer,

527
00:34:20,520 --> 00:34:24,120
Speaker 2: Like if there's trash down the street, I know it's there.

528
00:34:24,480 --> 00:34:27,440
Speaker 2: So this was unusual, and I was just it was

529
00:34:27,480 --> 00:34:30,200
Speaker 2: the first time I got really I got shaken, and

530
00:34:30,840 --> 00:34:33,919
Speaker 2: I just was like, I can't stay here another night.

531
00:34:34,040 --> 00:34:40,840
Speaker 2: That's not possible. So I just got all my things

532
00:34:40,880 --> 00:34:44,560
Speaker 2: and I got out of there. But I drove the

533
00:34:44,680 --> 00:34:47,200
Speaker 2: four hours back to the ferry, took the ferry across,

534
00:34:47,200 --> 00:34:49,880
Speaker 2: and as I'm on the ferry, I start doing all

535
00:34:49,920 --> 00:34:53,880
Speaker 2: of these sort of psychic protection things, like, you know,

536
00:34:54,040 --> 00:35:00,600
Speaker 2: creating a boundary around myself, just energetically with my little brain.

537
00:35:02,280 --> 00:35:05,040
Speaker 2: And I have been reading this book called Psychic Witch.

538
00:35:05,120 --> 00:35:08,160
Speaker 2: Who I think it's written by Matt Ward. I could

539
00:35:08,200 --> 00:35:10,000
Speaker 2: have that name wrong, but it's a really it was

540
00:35:10,040 --> 00:35:12,520
Speaker 2: a great book and I'm very into it. So I

541
00:35:12,520 --> 00:35:14,719
Speaker 2: get back. I drive all the way back to Vancouver.

542
00:35:15,400 --> 00:35:18,080
Speaker 2: I'm back in my apartment that I live in with

543
00:35:18,120 --> 00:35:20,960
Speaker 2: my partner and our dogs. And the next night I

544
00:35:22,120 --> 00:35:25,600
Speaker 2: staged our place, the whole thing, just in case something

545
00:35:26,160 --> 00:35:28,280
Speaker 2: came back with me. Because of course, I start googling

546
00:35:28,280 --> 00:35:32,359
Speaker 2: and I'm like, what the flies mean? What is this?

547
00:35:32,600 --> 00:35:35,160
Speaker 2: And it's like, this is the demon I can't even

548
00:35:35,239 --> 00:35:40,200
Speaker 2: remember by ell or something. I was just horrified and

549
00:35:40,280 --> 00:35:43,920
Speaker 2: felt like I had suddenly just made myself a magnet

550
00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:47,560
Speaker 2: for evil. So I get back and I do all

551
00:35:47,560 --> 00:35:51,040
Speaker 2: these things. And then my dog, who is very large,

552
00:35:51,080 --> 00:35:53,520
Speaker 2: he's like a one hundred pound mastiff, is sleeping in bed

553
00:35:53,520 --> 00:35:56,600
Speaker 2: with me at night and he wakes me up and

554
00:35:56,640 --> 00:35:59,040
Speaker 2: he's standing on the bed and he is staring in

555
00:35:59,080 --> 00:36:01,360
Speaker 2: the corner of the room and he is barking, Oh.

556
00:36:01,239 --> 00:36:01,799
Speaker 1: I hate that.

557
00:36:03,520 --> 00:36:07,400
Speaker 2: Damn it. It was, And so I just thought, yeah, okay,

558
00:36:07,480 --> 00:36:11,680
Speaker 2: well it's done. I'm I'm I'm cursed forever. And I

559
00:36:11,719 --> 00:36:14,440
Speaker 2: brought this thing back with me and I opened this

560
00:36:14,560 --> 00:36:20,239
Speaker 2: portal and I became like a like a lighthouse for

561
00:36:20,760 --> 00:36:25,840
Speaker 2: super entities, and so I just was not able to

562
00:36:25,880 --> 00:36:28,560
Speaker 2: sleep that next night, went around did all kinds of things.

563
00:36:28,640 --> 00:36:30,879
Speaker 2: I mean, I was like calling my friends who are

564
00:36:32,120 --> 00:36:35,040
Speaker 2: more experienced with that kind of stuff than I am,

565
00:36:35,239 --> 00:36:39,080
Speaker 2: and doing what they told me to do, and like

566
00:36:39,239 --> 00:36:45,840
Speaker 2: setting up water in little bowls everywhere and saging again.

567
00:36:46,200 --> 00:36:50,320
Speaker 2: And eventually we ended up moving out of that place

568
00:36:50,400 --> 00:36:56,000
Speaker 2: because our land lady was crazy. So that turned out fine.

569
00:36:56,680 --> 00:36:58,960
Speaker 3: But I mean, like the second night, or you know,

570
00:36:59,000 --> 00:37:02,480
Speaker 3: the next night after the the dog situation, did anything.

571
00:37:02,320 --> 00:37:05,920
Speaker 2: Happen or I started having really strange dreams. And I

572
00:37:05,920 --> 00:37:10,680
Speaker 2: don't know if that's just purely anxiety, but I was.

573
00:37:11,160 --> 00:37:18,080
Speaker 2: I just had this very ill at ease, feeling like

574
00:37:18,400 --> 00:37:23,279
Speaker 2: I was vulnerable in a way that I had not

575
00:37:23,400 --> 00:37:28,279
Speaker 2: been before, and so I just kind of start it

576
00:37:28,320 --> 00:37:31,400
Speaker 2: felt like I was just doing psychic protection and just

577
00:37:32,120 --> 00:37:36,920
Speaker 2: blocking out anything that could possibly come in. I was

578
00:37:36,960 --> 00:37:40,680
Speaker 2: doing a lot of kind of guided meditations around like

579
00:37:41,320 --> 00:37:44,680
Speaker 2: I am inside of a bubble of light and nothing

580
00:37:44,800 --> 00:37:49,719
Speaker 2: can come in, only energy can flow out. So after that,

581
00:37:50,120 --> 00:37:52,120
Speaker 2: I eased off.

582
00:37:52,719 --> 00:37:58,080
Speaker 4: I eased off of the practice, which I'm I'm not

583
00:37:58,280 --> 00:38:01,239
Speaker 4: thrilled about because it was really fun and I was

584
00:38:01,280 --> 00:38:06,800
Speaker 4: having such a i don't know, an emotionally charged and

585
00:38:06,960 --> 00:38:07,920
Speaker 4: exciting time.

586
00:38:08,000 --> 00:38:12,680
Speaker 2: I just felt more connected to my own spirituality than

587
00:38:12,680 --> 00:38:15,200
Speaker 2: I had in a while. So I'm gonna get back

588
00:38:15,239 --> 00:38:17,719
Speaker 2: into it, but I think I need to do some more.

589
00:38:19,360 --> 00:38:22,959
Speaker 2: It's more practice. Before I opened things up the way

590
00:38:22,960 --> 00:38:23,520
Speaker 2: that I did.

591
00:38:24,040 --> 00:38:29,239
Speaker 3: Well, I mean, it's possible that it's not related to

592
00:38:29,280 --> 00:38:31,239
Speaker 3: that there could have been something spooky going on.

593
00:38:31,280 --> 00:38:32,239
Speaker 1: In that airbnb.

594
00:38:33,080 --> 00:38:36,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, it could have just been coincidence. And I know,

595
00:38:36,840 --> 00:38:38,840
Speaker 2: I do know that the woman who owned the airbnb

596
00:38:39,040 --> 00:38:41,920
Speaker 2: had been having a really hard time in her life

597
00:38:41,960 --> 00:38:45,400
Speaker 2: and this project, this house was her project that she

598
00:38:46,080 --> 00:38:49,799
Speaker 2: bought renovated. It was like a way for her to

599
00:38:49,840 --> 00:38:53,480
Speaker 2: move forward. I think after she I believe she lost

600
00:38:53,480 --> 00:38:57,080
Speaker 2: her husband, is what her mom was saying. And she

601
00:38:57,160 --> 00:39:01,319
Speaker 2: has kids, and it'd been a really hard year. And

602
00:39:01,400 --> 00:39:04,440
Speaker 2: so maybe it was just a combination of too many

603
00:39:04,480 --> 00:39:06,480
Speaker 2: things for that poor house at once.

604
00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:07,640
Speaker 1: Yeah.

605
00:39:07,680 --> 00:39:11,879
Speaker 3: Well, especially hotels, airbnbs, you never know what people are

606
00:39:11,880 --> 00:39:12,960
Speaker 3: renting those things to.

607
00:39:12,960 --> 00:39:16,080
Speaker 1: Do or that's true, who they are.

608
00:39:16,040 --> 00:39:19,520
Speaker 3: And what they're leaving there and what's coming back to Vancouver.

609
00:39:20,440 --> 00:39:24,200
Speaker 2: That's absolutely true. And man, I have so many people

610
00:39:24,200 --> 00:39:26,560
Speaker 2: give me Polo santo all the time. I have so

611
00:39:26,640 --> 00:39:28,560
Speaker 2: many sticks of it laying around. I'm just like, I

612
00:39:28,640 --> 00:39:32,680
Speaker 2: need to I need to burn this stuff and not

613
00:39:32,800 --> 00:39:34,720
Speaker 2: just put it in a little bag under my safe.

614
00:39:35,520 --> 00:39:37,840
Speaker 1: I say, embrace your psychic witchery.

615
00:39:38,840 --> 00:39:41,600
Speaker 2: I think I want to and I have to. I

616
00:39:41,719 --> 00:39:45,560
Speaker 2: have to not let it scare me in the way

617
00:39:45,600 --> 00:39:48,719
Speaker 2: that it has because it's something. I mean, I love it.

618
00:39:49,000 --> 00:39:52,120
Speaker 2: I love it and I believe in it, and I

619
00:39:52,239 --> 00:39:55,759
Speaker 2: have friends who are on the same page and we

620
00:39:55,880 --> 00:39:59,799
Speaker 2: talk about it all the time. I I don't know.

621
00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:03,920
Speaker 2: I was taking classes with this woman, Naha A Mahdi,

622
00:40:04,040 --> 00:40:07,800
Speaker 2: who's in La. She's from the House of Intuition, Yes,

623
00:40:08,480 --> 00:40:14,319
Speaker 2: and she teaches candles and the biz fantastic candles. She

624
00:40:14,440 --> 00:40:21,400
Speaker 2: does middle pillar healing, which is sort of a beautiful practice,

625
00:40:21,800 --> 00:40:27,360
Speaker 2: sort of a somatic spiritual practice that's a little Reiky esque.

626
00:40:29,080 --> 00:40:31,880
Speaker 2: But this woman is straight up just she's a witch

627
00:40:31,960 --> 00:40:36,240
Speaker 2: and she does taro readings and I've had incredible readings

628
00:40:36,239 --> 00:40:40,480
Speaker 2: with her too, So I don't know, it's beautiful, it's

629
00:40:40,480 --> 00:40:43,640
Speaker 2: beautiful stuff. I just I got scared that one time

630
00:40:43,760 --> 00:40:45,239
Speaker 2: and I'm backed way off.

631
00:40:45,520 --> 00:40:50,239
Speaker 3: Well, okay, I'm not a witch. But my understanding from

632
00:40:50,239 --> 00:40:53,000
Speaker 3: reading books and talking to people and blah blah blah,

633
00:40:53,280 --> 00:40:57,160
Speaker 3: is all of this stuff is about intention. And you know,

634
00:40:57,360 --> 00:41:00,400
Speaker 3: if you're if you're not looking for trouble, you probably

635
00:41:00,400 --> 00:41:06,240
Speaker 3: won't find trouble. Or you know, if you do find trouble,

636
00:41:06,719 --> 00:41:09,239
Speaker 3: your conviction of trying to get it away from you

637
00:41:09,280 --> 00:41:13,200
Speaker 3: will keep it away. I actually I have a really

638
00:41:13,200 --> 00:41:17,600
Speaker 3: good interview. It's with Michelle Bell and Jay, who's an

639
00:41:17,600 --> 00:41:24,000
Speaker 3: occult expert, and she wrote a book about the occult

640
00:41:24,080 --> 00:41:28,280
Speaker 3: and it's connection to the paranormal and ghost hunting and stuff,

641
00:41:28,280 --> 00:41:32,400
Speaker 3: and we get into this stuff all about that she

642
00:41:32,520 --> 00:41:35,440
Speaker 3: knows all about the demons and she's a demonologist and

643
00:41:35,480 --> 00:41:35,920
Speaker 3: all of that.

644
00:41:36,840 --> 00:41:40,200
Speaker 2: Well, I love it. I'm definitely gonna listen to that.

645
00:41:46,520 --> 00:41:48,120
Speaker 1: Do you want to hear some ghost voices?

646
00:41:48,800 --> 00:41:49,240
Speaker 2: Oh?

647
00:41:49,520 --> 00:41:50,840
Speaker 1: Do? I?

648
00:41:51,000 --> 00:41:55,359
Speaker 3: Okay, it's time for ev.

649
00:41:57,000 --> 00:41:59,440
Speaker 1: Or ev Pase.

650
00:42:01,280 --> 00:42:08,239
Speaker 3: Do you know what EVP is? No, it's electronic voice phenomena.

651
00:42:08,520 --> 00:42:11,760
Speaker 3: So it's when like ghost hunters capture what they believe

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Speaker 3: is a ghost voice. And so I go to YouTube,

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Speaker 3: I look for EVPs and then i'll play it for

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Speaker 3: I'll play you which what I've found. I've found two

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Speaker 3: of them, and I'm gonna have you guess what you

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Speaker 3: hear and then I'll give you some options of what

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Speaker 3: the ghost hunter believes they've heard. Okay, so this first

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00:42:32,600 --> 00:42:37,400
Speaker 3: one is from ghost I want to say this.

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Speaker 1: You say their name?

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00:42:38,960 --> 00:42:45,959
Speaker 3: It's an apostrophe at ghost net on YouTube and it's

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Speaker 3: at Castle Blood, which I wish I'd have done more

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Speaker 3: research on that, because what a name Castle Blood in Monas?

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Speaker 1: Why can I not read?

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Speaker 3: Well, these are hard words, honest sin Monessin. It's in

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Speaker 3: a place in Pennsylvania.

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Speaker 2: Oh, I'm googling it to.

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Speaker 3: Mon ssn Pennsylvania. Monessin, moniessin Castle Blood sounds like a

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Speaker 3: lovely place to be. And uh, this is a ghost

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Speaker 3: speaking at this place.

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Speaker 1: Tell me what you hear? Wait, I need to turn

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Speaker 1: this ship up. Okay, one more time. Do you hear it? Ghost?

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00:43:41,040 --> 00:43:41,719
Speaker 1: We played again.

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Speaker 2: I mean what I hear is a car door closing?

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Speaker 2: To me?

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Speaker 1: Well, I did again?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, no, no, no, Well I'll give you some options.

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Speaker 3: One of these is correct. None of them are a

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Speaker 3: car door closing.

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00:44:06,560 --> 00:44:07,359
Speaker 2: Okay, I'm wrong.

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Speaker 3: Okay, is it A I'm none of them?

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Speaker 1: Is it B?

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Speaker 3: That's super dumb? Is it C it's your birthday? Or

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Speaker 3: d unbreak my heart? Maybe they're a Tony Braxton fan.

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Speaker 2: I don't know all from the other side. Yeah, is deep.

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Speaker 1: Well here we're gonna play it again. Tell me you

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Speaker 1: hear one of those.

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Speaker 2: I mean, the closest thing I think would be I'm

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Speaker 2: none of them.

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Speaker 1: Yes, that's what they believe. That's what they believe, it says.

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00:44:47,560 --> 00:44:53,440
Speaker 1: Let me play it again. I'm none of them.

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Speaker 3: I kind of hear it now. Well, okay, so what

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00:44:56,000 --> 00:44:58,800
Speaker 3: they asked was are you a man or a woman?

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Speaker 3: And it's I'm none of them. I'm like, okay, there's

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Speaker 3: aable non binary content here.

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00:45:06,800 --> 00:45:12,360
Speaker 1: Wait, let me play it again. I'm none of them.

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Speaker 2: It's scarier when you do it.

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00:45:15,320 --> 00:45:20,600
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, definitely, for sure. I'm available for your demon

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00:45:20,760 --> 00:45:23,040
Speaker 3: movie or your TV show.

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00:45:24,040 --> 00:45:24,600
Speaker 2: You're high it?

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Speaker 1: Okay, here's another one.

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Speaker 3: This is also from ghost Nat and it is at

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Speaker 3: the Hanky Mansion. What a name in that place too,

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00:45:35,680 --> 00:45:41,399
Speaker 3: Hanky Mansion in Oakdale, Pennsylvania, which is near Pittsburgh. And

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Speaker 3: this one got me. Okay, here we go. It's also

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Speaker 3: these are both kind of scratchy voices, these Pennsylvania ghosts.

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Speaker 2: But they're dehydrated in Pennsylvania.

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Speaker 1: On the other side. All right, let me play it again.

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Speaker 1: And he guesses maybe like.

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Speaker 2: I don't want to go.

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00:46:13,600 --> 00:46:19,320
Speaker 3: That's a good guess. Wait, let me pay it. Okay,

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00:46:19,440 --> 00:46:22,960
Speaker 3: let me give you some options. Okay, And again, to

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Speaker 3: be fair, nobody knows the real answer. It could be that,

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Speaker 3: but this is the answer that they chose.

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Speaker 1: Uh.

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00:46:29,880 --> 00:46:34,160
Speaker 3: Is it a why don't we kiss?

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00:46:34,680 --> 00:46:39,560
Speaker 1: Is it B I don't work here? Which is hilarious.

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00:46:41,239 --> 00:46:41,799
Speaker 1: Is it c.

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Speaker 3: Uh watch where you're walking, which that's scary. That's like

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00:46:47,320 --> 00:46:50,360
Speaker 3: you could be walking through a ghost or is it

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Speaker 3: d My name is Joaquin. All right, it's one of those.

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna play it again.

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Speaker 2: Oh oh, I totally hear I don't work here.

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00:47:01,760 --> 00:47:07,240
Speaker 3: It's totally I don't work here, which is hilarious. They asked,

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Speaker 3: are you the baker who works here at the Hanky Mansion?

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00:47:11,560 --> 00:47:14,680
Speaker 3: And they heard this ghost saying I don't work here.

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Speaker 2: I love it so clear and directly.

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Speaker 1: I know, let's hear it one more time. Totally.

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Speaker 3: That spooked me when I heard it, but it's also hilarious.

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Speaker 2: I'm just imagining, like this ghost is wearing a polo shirt.

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Speaker 3: That is exactly what I was thinking, Like when you're

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Speaker 3: at Target and you happen to have a red polo

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Speaker 3: on and then there Yep, exactly, Alison, that's about it.

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Speaker 1: Great, This, this is it.

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Speaker 3: This has been so fun. You you came with the stories.

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Speaker 2: And yeah, thank you for letting me unload.

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Speaker 3: Oh my god, anytime. I mean, are you open to

737
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Speaker 3: more experiences? It seems like you are.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I mean yes, absolutely, And I'm sure there's

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00:48:09,719 --> 00:48:12,640
Speaker 2: more coming for me, So I'm just gonna gird my

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00:48:12,760 --> 00:48:14,359
Speaker 2: loins and prepare for it.

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Speaker 1: They're coming for you.

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Speaker 3: Okay, Well, can you tell everybody you know where to

743
00:48:21,200 --> 00:48:23,800
Speaker 3: find yea and all that stuff.

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Speaker 1: And I'm all ghosts can find.

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Speaker 2: You, Ghosts can find me in Vancouver, BC. They know

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Speaker 2: where to find me. Everybody else internet wise, I'm I'm

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Speaker 2: all over as Alison E. Miller. That's at Alison E.

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Speaker 2: Miller and all the all the things, the Twitter and

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Speaker 2: Instagram stuff. Yeah, and then you can watch my TV

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00:48:48,600 --> 00:48:53,239
Speaker 2: show if you want to. Everybody's mom loves it. Maybe

751
00:48:53,280 --> 00:48:54,680
Speaker 2: should watch it with your mom.

752
00:48:54,960 --> 00:49:00,200
Speaker 3: Yes, and also watch it for dear friend of this podcast, Pancake, who's.

753
00:49:00,080 --> 00:49:03,520
Speaker 2: Please watch it for Sampancake. He's back this season. We're

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00:49:03,640 --> 00:49:04,880
Speaker 2: very exciting. Yay.

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Speaker 1: Thank you so much to Alison Miller.

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Speaker 3: Check her out on a Million Little Things, and also

757
00:49:14,440 --> 00:49:17,239
Speaker 3: go to patreon dot com slash Rozdresfales to see my

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00:49:17,400 --> 00:49:20,439
Speaker 3: UFO footage and also on my second tier you can

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00:49:20,800 --> 00:49:22,120
Speaker 3: hear Alison talking.

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00:49:21,960 --> 00:49:24,279
Speaker 1: A little bit more about.

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Speaker 3: Some various paranormal phenomenals and she's got some great things

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Speaker 3: to say about it. I really like talking to her.

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Speaker 3: She's cool. So anyway, I hope you guys are subscribed

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Speaker 3: to the show. Please rate it five stars on Apple Podcasts,

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Speaker 3: and if you have a ghost story, you can leave

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Speaker 3: it in a five star review. I want to do

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Speaker 3: some listener episodes, so please send me your listener stories

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Speaker 3: to Ghosted by Roz at gmail dot com with the

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Speaker 3: subject line listener episode. You can also join our Facebook

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Speaker 3: group called Ghosted by rozdres Fales and follow me on

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Speaker 3: Instagram at Roz Hernandez. And in the description of this episode,

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Speaker 3: I have a link to our merchandise if you want

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Speaker 3: to get some Ghosted t shirts or tote bags or

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Speaker 3: pins or any of that.

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Speaker 1: Kind of stuff. They're really cute.

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Speaker 3: I like them. I love you all, both living and dead.

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Speaker 1: But if I didn't ask you to haunt me, don't

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Speaker 1: haunt me. Okay, Bye.

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Speaker 2: Stars a podcast network