Speaker 1: All right, we have. We have been discussing sweaty ponytails, yes,
Speaker 1: and people who just don't give a fuck, and that
Speaker 1: includes missus Audrey Holbert. That we learned a whole lot
Speaker 1: about tonight that we're going to get into more in
Speaker 1: a second. But Robes, I asked on our trip to
Speaker 1: here to La, I just asked you who was your
Speaker 1: highlight or favorite person or person you reconnected with? And
Speaker 1: you immediately said a name. Who was it on our
Speaker 1: trip this trip to La? Who was it that you
Speaker 1: were so so happy to see?
Speaker 2: Kelly ben Simone.
Speaker 3: You know, we met her, I think it was about
Speaker 3: a year ago, and we immediately liked her. We I
Speaker 3: think we've reconnected a couple of times, and we always
Speaker 3: say we're going to get together. We lived probably ten
Speaker 3: fifteen minutes apart, and that's walking probably, yes, walking business.
Speaker 3: It's sad she's in Soho, I think, and we're not
Speaker 3: far away, and yet I think we always end up
Speaker 3: reconnecting out here in La on the West coast for
Speaker 3: whatever reason. But I just you know, she sent a
Speaker 3: sweet congratulatory note to us when we got engaged, when
Speaker 3: she found out and when we saw each other in person,
Speaker 3: it was like she's just got such a cool, grounding, beautiful,
Speaker 3: authentic energy about her.
Speaker 2: You could tell she's.
Speaker 3: Genuinely happy for us, and she's living her best life
Speaker 3: right now too. But I just loved I missed her,
Speaker 3: and I didn't realize how much I missed her until
Speaker 3: I actually Yeah, I got to hang with her tonight,
Speaker 3: and she just sent.
Speaker 2: Me a text.
Speaker 3: You know, so hopefully we will actually get together when
Speaker 3: we all get back to New York.
Speaker 1: So, yes, we have all spent the night together, and
Speaker 1: we are wrapping up the night as we're sitting here.
Speaker 1: You and I are sitting across a guess a kitchen
Speaker 1: bar from each other, in a couple of wicker.
Speaker 2: Seats, wicker barstool, in a well.
Speaker 1: How would you describe this old it's a little bungalow.
Speaker 1: It's a little bungalow.
Speaker 3: It's a feteite. Something is even in the name. So
Speaker 3: everything's miniature.
Speaker 1: Okay, So including our living room is doubling as a
Speaker 1: bedroom right now, because as we're recording this, there's a
Speaker 1: twelve year old is hoping we'd wrap this up soon.
Speaker 3: She's in a pull out couch, yes, looking at us
Speaker 3: like please, I would like to sleep.
Speaker 2: We know all been up for twenty three hours.
Speaker 1: Yes, all of us have been up. And I give
Speaker 1: her credit. She's always a good trooper and she's rolled
Speaker 1: with Daddy for a long time. So it's being knows
Speaker 1: the drill, and it's always is it tough for a kid?
Speaker 1: All of us. She's been around all these adults all
Speaker 1: day who have been what having wine and here's margarita
Speaker 1: and people have a late night. She has to deal
Speaker 1: with us, Yes, is it.
Speaker 3: From Yes, it's got to be annoying. Everyone else is
Speaker 3: having fun. Yes, I mean, look, she did get some candy,
Speaker 3: she got some good ease.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's your tree for staying up for twenty three hours,
Speaker 1: say as we candy.
Speaker 3: No, now the sugar she's crashing. We had more sugar
Speaker 3: than she did.
Speaker 1: Today, you know. But again to this, Yes, we come
Speaker 1: out here and it's fun and it's a bit of
Speaker 1: a reunion. But this is an iHeart is special to us.
Speaker 1: They entered and Amy Sugarman and Crew and Will Pearson.
Speaker 1: They came in and entered our lives and gave confidence
Speaker 1: and faith and trust and support to us at a
Speaker 1: time that was some of the darkest personally and professionally
Speaker 1: for us. So to sit here now after we've had
Speaker 1: this two plus year relationship and expanding relationship and growth,
Speaker 1: you know what, the jingle Ball is more than just
Speaker 1: a fun and a good time. It's really meaningful.
Speaker 2: It's family and it is a day.
Speaker 3: And I you know, it's funny you talk about that
Speaker 3: because I was in we have this fun little glamor
Speaker 3: room that they set up for us before we walked
Speaker 3: the red carpet, and Amy Sugarman, who you just mentioned,
Speaker 3: came in and I had told her that Sabine reminded
Speaker 3: us that this was our two year anniversary and she
Speaker 3: was like, oh my god, and she just went back
Speaker 3: to where we were two years ago, and she was
Speaker 3: reflecting on just how excited she was to have us.
Speaker 3: But I just wanted to let her know how grateful
Speaker 3: we were, not that they gave us a shot, but
Speaker 3: that they were enthusiastic. They were enthusiastic supporters of us.
Speaker 3: It wasn't just like, yeah, we'll let you, We'll see
Speaker 3: what you guys can do. They were like, we believe
Speaker 3: in you and at a time when we really needed
Speaker 3: to feel that, and it was just cool to have
Speaker 3: her kind of go back to that time two years
Speaker 3: ago and then talk about where we are now and
Speaker 3: how exciting it is all the new things that we're
Speaker 3: doing with iHeart. In fact, we got to meet our
Speaker 3: new co host. We'll bring that to you guys, I
Speaker 3: believe on Monday. But we have an announcement on Monday
Speaker 3: with the Amy and TJ Presents feed where we have
Speaker 3: someone who we are working with in the true crime
Speaker 3: genre of podcasts. So that'll be an announcement on Monday.
Speaker 3: But we got to meet her. We got to spend
Speaker 3: some time with her. It's just nice and cool to
Speaker 3: see old friends and meet new friends and continue to
Speaker 3: grow with a company who we believe in and who
Speaker 3: believed in us.
Speaker 1: You know, and it's cool and Unno, this is meaningful
Speaker 1: to you as well. But so many of the folks
Speaker 1: we saw today Sabine is with us, and they're saying
Speaker 1: hello to her again and reach out and giving her
Speaker 1: a hug. Right, that's just to see, I mean, it's
Speaker 1: work right all this time. That's one of the saddest
Speaker 1: things about leaving ABC the way we did like that
Speaker 1: was years of building friendships and relationships and things that
Speaker 1: were meaningful and to see now the work and the
Speaker 1: time and the effort we've put into where now Sabine
Speaker 1: is even a part of the family, and that way
Speaker 1: that those little gestures and those little things were meaningful. Look,
Speaker 1: we were expecting to have more fun in this podcast.
Speaker 1: I don't know why I took.
Speaker 2: A Now it's like deeply meaning.
Speaker 1: It wasn't supposed to be. Yeah, it's supposed to be
Speaker 1: a good time, and it has been a.
Speaker 2: Good times today.
Speaker 1: Starting with what we had, uh Maria Andretti as our
Speaker 1: uber driver taking us from our home.
Speaker 2: She did have a lead foot bait.
Speaker 1: We rarely get women as our uber drivers, and the
Speaker 1: one we get is like she was. She was on it, lying,
Speaker 1: she was flying.
Speaker 2: Yes, we got there very quickly.
Speaker 3: I don't think I've ever made it to JFK in
Speaker 3: thirty five minutes.
Speaker 1: That's how we did. That's how we started the day.
Speaker 1: Get on the plane, everybody, if you've ever flown, you
Speaker 1: have had the experience somebody sometimes a big guy go
Speaker 1: to sleep and he's snoring loudly, this liquid storing. This
Speaker 1: was I have never, in all of my years of flying,
Speaker 1: heard anything like this. Five and a half hour flight,
Speaker 1: he snored the entire time. He's sitting in front of sabine.
Speaker 1: Poor thing. He it was sound. Imagine Aquaman. He's snoring.
Speaker 2: He was drowning and storing at the same.
Speaker 1: He was drowning.
Speaker 4: So I knew that I needed to sleep on the plane,
Speaker 4: so I put the headphones on, thinking that that would
Speaker 4: drown out the drowning snoring.
Speaker 2: It did not.
Speaker 3: I actually had to turn on a movie and allow
Speaker 3: the movie to block out. And then when my movie ended,
Speaker 3: I woke up because I could hear him storing again.
Speaker 3: I had to go find another movie to block him out.
Speaker 1: Folks, just the worst snoring you've ever heard. Now, put
Speaker 1: a little liquid in it, what like it scheves you out.
Speaker 1: It was so disgusting. It was off. Okay, so we'll
Speaker 1: get here. We land. Everything's cool. We happened to be
Speaker 1: at a hotel that has no restaurant and no bar.
Speaker 2: That's so bad for us. That's no bueno for us.
Speaker 1: We did not pick this place, clearly, yes, but they
Speaker 1: are so sweet, they are so awesome. The guy wasn't
Speaker 1: hector at the front right, that was his night. Okay.
Speaker 1: We come in and he was the nicest guy, but
Speaker 1: he could tell when we said, wait a minute, there's
Speaker 1: no restaurant.
Speaker 3: Well, we just said so that means y'all don't have mimosas, right,
Speaker 3: just confirming that, he said.
Speaker 1: Oh no, sorry, we have breakfast baskets that we bring you.
Speaker 1: And we didn't complain. We just he was so nice
Speaker 1: and so sweet. So later you're in makeup, allright, hair makeup,
Speaker 1: I come by to say hello, room full of people.
Speaker 1: Who shows up? Hector and announcers to the room. I
Speaker 1: have a mimosa station set up for you, guys. He
Speaker 1: went out and this was very sweet, and maybe we
Speaker 1: should give them credit. I don't want to say that,
Speaker 1: but I want to give them credit because they took
Speaker 1: care of us Le Petite Pally here in Brentwood. Yeah,
Speaker 1: took very good care of us. Yes, it's a different
Speaker 1: type of place and it doesn't have all some of
Speaker 1: those amenities, but it has bungalows. It's cute, it's cool,
Speaker 1: and some of the best service you'll get. They were
Speaker 1: very and.
Speaker 3: It smells so good in here, Like I love the
Speaker 3: scent in here. Everything is so well appointed, it's so cute,
Speaker 3: and just the gesture that they made. We are people
Speaker 3: who are always out in terms of restaurants and hotels.
Speaker 2: And service is a really tough thing.
Speaker 3: You can have the most beautiful, well appointed place and
Speaker 3: the service sucks right this no, but how often we're like, man,
Speaker 3: this could be so great if, yes, the service were better.
Speaker 3: This place has top notched. And it wasn't just that
Speaker 3: they did it. They did it with pride. They did
Speaker 3: it with joy. They did it with smiles.
Speaker 1: On their eyes. They are very.
Speaker 3: Genuinely happy and excited to be a part of making
Speaker 3: or elevating someone's experience.
Speaker 2: It was really cool to see that they took pride
Speaker 2: in it.
Speaker 1: So yes, I shout out to Petite Palace. They were great.
Speaker 1: They also gave us a recommendations to where we could
Speaker 1: go to a grocery store because we need to grab
Speaker 1: a few things. Now. We had one of the This
Speaker 1: is a bizarre experience and our hope everyone you can
Speaker 1: check yourself. I don't understand this experience. We're walking down
Speaker 1: down the street to the store and we're about to
Speaker 1: cross the street at a crosswalk and I'm telling you, ropes,
Speaker 1: I'm trying to get it's fifty yards minimum that a car,
Speaker 1: a guy makes a U turn and he's about to
Speaker 1: come back in the direction we are in the crosswalk
Speaker 1: and we see him coming back and we just back
Speaker 1: back up. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, We had started to walk across because we saw
Speaker 3: that the traffic had cleared out and we were about
Speaker 3: to walk.
Speaker 2: When we see him start to make the U turns.
Speaker 2: We stop and we start to back up.
Speaker 1: But I cannot be clearer. We are nowhere, newhere this car.
Speaker 1: In fact, I think we had stepped probably back off
Speaker 1: the street before his car was fully turned around. But
Speaker 1: for whatever reason, this man, as he was passing us
Speaker 1: on the street at the intersection, as we're standing on
Speaker 1: the sidewalk, decides to gesture in such a way to
Speaker 1: the three of us.
Speaker 3: Right, So he throws up his hands and shakes his
Speaker 3: head at us and like, what are you idiots doing?
Speaker 3: He doesn't say that, but you know when someone throws
Speaker 3: up their hands like that and.
Speaker 2: Just shakes his head at us. He rolled down his
Speaker 2: window to do it.
Speaker 3: So we started laughing. We're like, wow, we're laughing. Why
Speaker 3: is he so mad at us?
Speaker 4: Like we were about to cross the street, we saw
Speaker 4: him do this crazy U turn.
Speaker 2: We backed out.
Speaker 1: Please know this is not a close call.
Speaker 3: Was We were so far away from him, So that's
Speaker 3: why when he was flailing his hands with us, acting
Speaker 3: like we were lunatics.
Speaker 2: It was funny. It was like, why is he so
Speaker 2: mad right now?
Speaker 1: So he turns onto the other street, which happens to
Speaker 1: be the street that we're walking down.
Speaker 2: Now we're now walking down on the same.
Speaker 1: Street, but he's on the other side. We're all going
Speaker 1: the same direction, so we see. I look, now, this
Speaker 1: is why I decided to be an asshole. I and
Speaker 1: I was laughing. Now he has his window down yelling
Speaker 1: at us. You said you heard I couldn't make out.
Speaker 2: He screamed. He said I could have hit y'all. I
Speaker 2: wanted to.
Speaker 3: I wanted, yes, He said I could have hit y'all
Speaker 3: if I wanted to say y'all, because we're in California.
Speaker 3: I could have hit you guys if I wanted to.
Speaker 3: But I didn't. And but he was honking the horn
Speaker 3: at us, like laying on the horn, saying this, and
Speaker 3: he was angry.
Speaker 2: He was angry, screaming.
Speaker 1: Medium between us as he's doing all this. So I go.
Speaker 2: So that's when he starts honking the horn. He got
Speaker 2: so mad.
Speaker 3: But I don't know because we didn't slow him down.
Speaker 3: It was not even it wasn't a close call. It
Speaker 3: wasn't a call at all. I don't know if in
Speaker 3: that moment and he needed to feel superior to somebody
Speaker 3: or maybe whatever made him do the U turn, he
Speaker 3: was in a certain state of mind. He needed somebody
Speaker 3: to throw blame or shade out. I don't know, but
Speaker 3: when you laugh at somebody, and we didn't mean to
Speaker 3: be laughing at him, We were laughing at his anger
Speaker 3: because it was so unwarranted.
Speaker 2: It was shocking, it was jarring.
Speaker 3: So but then that set him off even more, which
Speaker 3: became funnier because he was so far away from us,
Speaker 3: there's nothing.
Speaker 2: He could do. But it was like, why are you
Speaker 2: so angry? Like, we're just.
Speaker 3: We obviously don't have a vehicle, we're as a family
Speaker 3: walking to a grocery store. We're not Likedlum's like, why
Speaker 3: are you so angry at us?
Speaker 2: And that just became funny, which was his undoing.
Speaker 1: So that was our day. We set up our very
Speaker 1: fun day to get to our very fun night where
Speaker 1: I discovered a very new fun artist that we certainly
Speaker 1: saw some parallels to Taylor Swift, but she had much
Speaker 1: more of an edge. We'll explain all right, we can
Speaker 1: tell you here, folks, what has been our I guess
Speaker 1: two years? Aniver?
Speaker 2: Yeah, almost.
Speaker 5: Hus to stop right, an extended l P.
Speaker 1: Right, she's had a long, long day and she has
Speaker 1: not complained. She has been a good kid all day.
Speaker 1: So we'll be done in just a secon. Audrey Hogert, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I have it right, Hobert Hogert. Audrey Hogert. I had
Speaker 1: never heard the name before.
Speaker 2: Neither had I.
Speaker 3: And when she walked out, immediately she looked like Taylor Swift.
Speaker 2: She had a it's so funny. We kept thinking.
Speaker 3: I definitely thought she came out in a trench coat,
Speaker 3: and I thought, oh, she's gonna rip the trench coat off.
Speaker 3: There's me some sexy outfit underneath. She's going to totally
Speaker 3: be this like tall, lanky Sabrina Carpenter.
Speaker 2: But no, she ended up. She kept it on, she
Speaker 2: kept her edge.
Speaker 3: She basically just had her hair up in a sweaty ponytail.
Speaker 2: She was working it so.
Speaker 1: She was, well, the rest of us, what is a
Speaker 1: sweaty pony.
Speaker 2: It's just this kind of a sloppy ponytail.
Speaker 3: She didn't brush, it wasn't stylized, it wasn't brushed.
Speaker 2: It wasn't hair spray. She just threw that up like
Speaker 2: she was about to.
Speaker 3: Go do a workout, and she was working it out
Speaker 3: on stage, so she was working up as we But
Speaker 3: it's just funny.
Speaker 2: She didn't it didn't look like she had any makeup on.
Speaker 3: She just got out there and was kind of funny
Speaker 3: and sarcastic and just she was different than anyone I
Speaker 3: had ever seen before.
Speaker 1: So we had never heard this name before this evening.
Speaker 1: I hadn't. Apparently she's put out her for Gracie Abrams,
Speaker 1: she's collaborated with on some stuff, and she's put out
Speaker 1: her first singles this year, so she's a brand, brand
Speaker 1: new artist. When they were teasing before she even came on,
Speaker 1: they had like a preview video kind of a tease,
Speaker 1: and I looked to I said, this girl's got good energy.
Speaker 1: I had no idea who she was, never she's got
Speaker 1: good energy. When she came out on stage, I leaned over,
Speaker 1: I think to both of y'all and said, oh, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna like this girl.
Speaker 2: Yep, that's exactly what you said.
Speaker 1: Oh and she I just liked her vibe and I'm
Speaker 1: a fan cool vibe.
Speaker 3: She has a great like I don't care if you
Speaker 3: like me or not. Here's what I'm doing, enjoy it
Speaker 3: or not.
Speaker 1: But I liked her. She's an unrefined Taylor Swift right
Speaker 1: and Edgie.
Speaker 2: Taylor's was Edgie.
Speaker 1: Okay, that's a better way to put it. Yeah, but
Speaker 1: she was fun and I look forward to looking up
Speaker 1: her music. Now. I discovered last year was Monster. It
Speaker 1: was some K pop group. Oh, I like these guys.
Speaker 1: I always discover somebody. It's funny. That's why my Spotify
Speaker 1: wrapped age was twenty one and yours.
Speaker 2: Was sixty six. Thanks for winning, everybody.
Speaker 1: I stay current, you know.
Speaker 2: I you know what.
Speaker 3: I actually shudder to think what my age would be
Speaker 3: if I weren't with you, because probably any songs that
Speaker 3: I listened to that were current were because of you.
Speaker 3: Otherwise I would be completely stuck in the sixties and seventies.
Speaker 2: So I appreciate that.
Speaker 3: And yes, it does now make a lot more sense
Speaker 3: that when I looked at the lineup, I knew no
Speaker 3: one line up.
Speaker 2: I need to knew no one's name.
Speaker 3: Not one name stood out to me as oh yeah,
Speaker 3: I know who that is, or I could name a
Speaker 3: song they sing and that's yeah, that's a sign of
Speaker 3: the time.
Speaker 1: Did you only just know Alex Warren's music?
Speaker 2: No, yeah, I didn't know his name.
Speaker 1: You didn't know his name?
Speaker 2: No, I did not know Alex Warren's name.
Speaker 1: No, he was obviously a okay, here it is Alex Warren. Yes,
Speaker 1: he started the night off. Then we had the K
Speaker 1: Pop Demon Hunters thing with Hunter X. I think it's okay.
Speaker 1: Leon Thomas was up tonight.
Speaker 3: And I kept telling you I did not know who
Speaker 3: he was, and turns out the song you said that
Speaker 3: I would absolutely know.
Speaker 2: You never heard before in my life.
Speaker 1: Maybe I'm a dog, I'm a mutt. So yes, Jesse,
Speaker 1: Murph Jackson, Wang, Freya sky Renee Rap, Conan Gray, No, feed.
Speaker 2: You don't even know who that.
Speaker 1: I don't know anything, okay.
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, good. I don't know any of it.
Speaker 1: But that's and that's cool. And I learned something. Zara
Speaker 1: Lawson has a song we like the kid Leroy. I
Speaker 1: at least know his name, but I don't know his music.
Speaker 1: But yeah, this was a different. Well, you learn something,
Speaker 1: you see something, and it's fun. It was. It's fun
Speaker 1: to see people on stage I've never heard of and
Speaker 1: look down and someone singing every lyric recording themselves enthusiastically.
Speaker 1: I got into some of the artists because by watching
Speaker 1: some of their fans and their energy. So this is always,
Speaker 1: this is good, This is always a fun night. And
Speaker 1: I guess I didn't mean for it to be so poignant,
Speaker 1: but this was. It was fun. And this is our
Speaker 1: two year anniversary episode.
Speaker 2: You know what's so cool?
Speaker 3: When we said yes that we were going to come
Speaker 3: to jingle Ball here in La, neither one of us
Speaker 3: put together that it was our two year anniversary. I
Speaker 3: think we would have maybe even thought about the day differently,
Speaker 3: gone about the day differently, recognizing it. But thank God's
Speaker 3: beans with us and reminded us, because honestly, I am
Speaker 3: actually so happy we were able to acknowledge it, recognize
Speaker 3: it and kind of just soak it all in.
Speaker 2: How far we've come.
Speaker 3: We can laugh about how we God, we started out
Speaker 3: putting one podcast to out a week, and you and
Speaker 3: I would just spend days like sweating it, like in
Speaker 3: these like feverish, like I don't even know if you
Speaker 3: want to call them brainstorming sessions, trying to figure out
Speaker 3: what the one podcast would be we churn out. Sometimes
Speaker 3: I think yesterday we put out five podcasts. Not that
Speaker 3: we want that to be the norm, but it will.
Speaker 3: No but to think that now, it's just we get it.
Speaker 3: We just we know, we know what we're doing. And
Speaker 3: I think it's just a cool reminder to anybody who's
Speaker 3: starting out or starting over or trying a new skill.
Speaker 3: It may seem so overwhelming and daunting and impossible in
Speaker 3: the beginning, but once you start, you just keep flexing
Speaker 3: that muscle, you just keep building that muscle. Suddenly, all
Speaker 3: of a sudden, you'll realize, oh wow, this actually is
Speaker 3: so easy, and it's funny how and you can see
Speaker 3: how far you've come. And that's what's cool about anniversaries.
Speaker 3: I do like them for that reason. You really can
Speaker 3: see how far you've come.
Speaker 1: Well, we've come a long way. And that was a
Speaker 1: fantastic dress this evening. By the way, my dear, I
Speaker 1: know you're excited about wearing that one. It was a
Speaker 1: very fun dress and you were right. It was fun,
Speaker 1: it was festive, it didn't get in the way too much.
Speaker 2: A little bit of a train that was kind of
Speaker 2: annoying on it.
Speaker 1: A couple of times. How are the feet?
Speaker 2: Oh you know what? I actually I had a new
Speaker 2: pair of shoes.
Speaker 3: I was nervous fet feel pretty dang good, but I've
Speaker 3: slipped into some new socks and now I feel wonderful
Speaker 3: new socks.
Speaker 1: Okay, where'd you get those new socks?
Speaker 3: Okay, so you told me I couldn't say it anymore.
Speaker 3: So we get to go through this little gift area
Speaker 3: for the Jigle Bowl. It's like kind of like a
Speaker 3: fun little you know, they give you free gifts, and
Speaker 3: on the it's the swag area.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: So I found a Christmas tree that had Ryan Seacrest
Speaker 3: socks on them, and so they kept calling them Ryan
Speaker 3: Seacrest socks, and so I grabbed a pair, and I
Speaker 3: kept telling you that I was putting on my Ryan
Speaker 3: Secret socks.
Speaker 2: And what did you.
Speaker 1: Say to me slipping into my Kim Kardashian underwear.
Speaker 4: You're like, if you keep calling your socks Ryan Seacrest socks,
Speaker 4: then I'm calling my skims underwear Kim card Yes, And
Speaker 4: I was like, okay, fair, I'm not going to call
Speaker 4: him that anymore.
Speaker 1: Ryan on your feet, you want Kim on my.
Speaker 2: So yes, I just have some really cozy socks.
Speaker 1: Thank you very much, folks, We appreciate you. Yeah, really
Speaker 1: we're here, still churning, still kicking, and still growing with
Speaker 1: his iHeart family because apparently you're still listening, so we
Speaker 1: do appreciate you. Thank you as always for listening to us.
Speaker 1: We really do appreciate it. And for my dear Amy Robock,
Speaker 1: I am TJ. Holmes. We'll talk to the Allain built
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