1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:16,400 Speaker 1: Mr garbut chaf teared down this wall. Either you're with 2 00:00:16,560 --> 00:00:19,840 Speaker 1: us or you were with the terrorists. If you've got 3 00:00:19,880 --> 00:00:22,599 Speaker 1: healthcare already, then you can keep your plan. If you 4 00:00:22,640 --> 00:00:25,560 Speaker 1: are satisfied with it is not a president of the 5 00:00:25,600 --> 00:00:29,520 Speaker 1: United States, take it to bank. Together, we will make 6 00:00:29,800 --> 00:00:35,839 Speaker 1: America great again. You'll never sharend. It's what you've been 7 00:00:35,880 --> 00:00:40,120 Speaker 1: waiting for all day. Buck Sexton with America now joined 8 00:00:40,159 --> 00:00:43,680 Speaker 1: the conversation called buck toll free at eight four four 9 00:00:44,040 --> 00:00:48,200 Speaker 1: nine hundred Buck. That's eight four four nine hundred two, 10 00:00:48,280 --> 00:00:54,760 Speaker 1: eight to five, sharp mind, strong voice, Buck Sexton. Buck 11 00:00:54,800 --> 00:00:57,040 Speaker 1: Sexton here with you all, team. Thank you so much 12 00:00:57,080 --> 00:00:59,400 Speaker 1: for joining. Great to have you with me in the 13 00:00:59,440 --> 00:01:02,960 Speaker 1: Freedom Hunt. I'm coming to you live from the West 14 00:01:03,000 --> 00:01:06,360 Speaker 1: coast outpost of the Freedom Hut. I'm here in Los 15 00:01:06,360 --> 00:01:10,440 Speaker 1: Angeles for a few days, so I do understand why 16 00:01:10,480 --> 00:01:13,680 Speaker 1: people grow so fond of this place so quickly. Everything 17 00:01:13,720 --> 00:01:17,479 Speaker 1: about it seems pretty fantastic, except for the traffic, which 18 00:01:17,560 --> 00:01:20,640 Speaker 1: is as advertised, but the rest of it is pretty great. 19 00:01:20,640 --> 00:01:23,080 Speaker 1: The weather is really lovely. The politics, I don't know, 20 00:01:23,160 --> 00:01:25,440 Speaker 1: because I don't talk to people on the street about 21 00:01:25,440 --> 00:01:28,840 Speaker 1: politics much, but perhaps if I did, i'd well what 22 00:01:29,000 --> 00:01:31,679 Speaker 1: run back to Manhattan. It's even worse there. So I've 23 00:01:31,720 --> 00:01:33,440 Speaker 1: got to visit some parts of the country where people 24 00:01:33,440 --> 00:01:40,320 Speaker 1: actually believe insane constitutional governance. But nonetheless lovely place, lovely place. 25 00:01:40,560 --> 00:01:44,039 Speaker 1: We have a packed show today, and if you do 26 00:01:44,120 --> 00:01:47,160 Speaker 1: want to call us, please please buy all means eight 27 00:01:49,880 --> 00:01:53,920 Speaker 1: to eight to five, give us a ring. We will 28 00:01:53,960 --> 00:01:55,600 Speaker 1: be taking calls just to give you a sense of 29 00:01:55,600 --> 00:01:58,160 Speaker 1: where we're going here. I'm gonna be talking to you 30 00:01:58,200 --> 00:02:01,480 Speaker 1: in just a second about what's going on with Trump, 31 00:02:01,520 --> 00:02:05,960 Speaker 1: the Democrats, the Republicans this week, because I'm seeing the 32 00:02:06,000 --> 00:02:08,440 Speaker 1: matrix now. It was I was a little fuzzy the 33 00:02:08,520 --> 00:02:10,840 Speaker 1: day of with what are all the angles here? But 34 00:02:10,840 --> 00:02:12,320 Speaker 1: I spent a lot of time thinking about it. I 35 00:02:12,400 --> 00:02:15,440 Speaker 1: had a nice cramped flight and coach to just sit 36 00:02:15,480 --> 00:02:18,480 Speaker 1: there and ponder all things Trump. You know, I had 37 00:02:18,520 --> 00:02:22,760 Speaker 1: the the seatback getting kicked repeatedly, people dropping the tray 38 00:02:22,880 --> 00:02:24,760 Speaker 1: in front of me, and ever, you know, all that stuff. 39 00:02:24,919 --> 00:02:26,919 Speaker 1: So you get to think about politics when that's happening, 40 00:02:26,919 --> 00:02:30,480 Speaker 1: because that's my happy that's my happy place, my safe space, 41 00:02:30,520 --> 00:02:33,239 Speaker 1: if you will. Thinking about politics on a plane going 42 00:02:33,240 --> 00:02:36,120 Speaker 1: five hundred mills an hour, cramped in there like a sardine, 43 00:02:36,960 --> 00:02:38,800 Speaker 1: But I'll get to that in a moment. We also 44 00:02:38,960 --> 00:02:45,519 Speaker 1: will discuss the Betsy divorce Education Secretary Betsy Divorce, ending 45 00:02:45,639 --> 00:02:51,120 Speaker 1: the weaponized era of Title nine. Essentially, Betsy Voss gave 46 00:02:51,120 --> 00:02:53,480 Speaker 1: a speech today in which she made it clear that 47 00:02:53,520 --> 00:02:58,000 Speaker 1: no longer will the Department of Education embrace a policy 48 00:02:58,400 --> 00:03:03,000 Speaker 1: that just spend sees almost in almost entirely with due 49 00:03:03,000 --> 00:03:07,320 Speaker 1: process procedures on criminal matters, not in criminal proceedings, but 50 00:03:07,400 --> 00:03:10,520 Speaker 1: on issues of criminal conduct. Will get there. That's going 51 00:03:10,600 --> 00:03:13,239 Speaker 1: to be a very worthwhile discussion, i assure you. And 52 00:03:13,280 --> 00:03:19,120 Speaker 1: also Democrats bringing a religious tests to office now pretty explicitly, 53 00:03:19,160 --> 00:03:25,000 Speaker 1: pretty clearly, can you be a believing religious Christian, a 54 00:03:25,080 --> 00:03:29,840 Speaker 1: believing religious Catholic, not a not a Catholic, a Lakhart, 55 00:03:29,919 --> 00:03:34,560 Speaker 1: not a cafeteria Catholic, or a pay as you go Christian, 56 00:03:35,560 --> 00:03:38,640 Speaker 1: but somebody who believes in the doctrine? Does that mean 57 00:03:38,680 --> 00:03:40,640 Speaker 1: that you can't be a federal judge? We'll get there. 58 00:03:40,720 --> 00:03:44,920 Speaker 1: Diane Feinstein has some words on that, and certainly some 59 00:03:45,000 --> 00:03:48,680 Speaker 1: updates and some expertise via a guest in just a 60 00:03:48,720 --> 00:03:54,160 Speaker 1: bit on the massive, monstrous, jaw dropping hurricane that has 61 00:03:54,240 --> 00:03:58,560 Speaker 1: already devastated a number of small islands in the Caribbean 62 00:03:59,320 --> 00:04:04,720 Speaker 1: and is making its way towards Florida and is expected 63 00:04:04,760 --> 00:04:06,800 Speaker 1: to make landfall within a couple of days. We'll give 64 00:04:06,840 --> 00:04:10,720 Speaker 1: you some some inside and expertise on that coming up 65 00:04:10,960 --> 00:04:13,720 Speaker 1: in just a bit. So, as I was saying, and 66 00:04:13,880 --> 00:04:15,640 Speaker 1: maybe then if I have time, and I don't know, 67 00:04:15,720 --> 00:04:18,160 Speaker 1: these might get left on the cutting room floor of 68 00:04:18,200 --> 00:04:21,279 Speaker 1: the Freedom Hut for today we might have to discuss. 69 00:04:21,360 --> 00:04:24,640 Speaker 1: We might have time to discuss Vladimir Putin saying we 70 00:04:24,640 --> 00:04:27,560 Speaker 1: shouldn't be playing along with Kim Jong uns game in 71 00:04:27,600 --> 00:04:31,200 Speaker 1: North Korea. I had written earlier this week for The 72 00:04:31,279 --> 00:04:36,120 Speaker 1: Hill dot Com on how we need to start approaching 73 00:04:36,160 --> 00:04:39,159 Speaker 1: North Korea from perspective of at least the possibility that 74 00:04:39,160 --> 00:04:42,000 Speaker 1: they really do want a war. Just not get that 75 00:04:42,120 --> 00:04:45,560 Speaker 1: this isn't all bluffing and saber rattling, that it is 76 00:04:45,600 --> 00:04:49,520 Speaker 1: preparation for a war that they think is coming, and 77 00:04:49,760 --> 00:04:52,760 Speaker 1: that that piece has certainly gotten a lot of attention 78 00:04:52,760 --> 00:04:56,000 Speaker 1: and people talking about, wow, that's a that's a different 79 00:04:56,720 --> 00:04:58,960 Speaker 1: approach than which you usually here on it, which is 80 00:04:59,040 --> 00:05:01,680 Speaker 1: just how do we get Korea to play nice? What? 81 00:05:01,839 --> 00:05:03,520 Speaker 1: How can we buy them up? How can we give 82 00:05:03,560 --> 00:05:09,440 Speaker 1: them the carrots and sticks approach of diplomacy? One oh one. Well, 83 00:05:09,480 --> 00:05:11,440 Speaker 1: we'll get to that if we, As I said, if 84 00:05:11,440 --> 00:05:14,880 Speaker 1: we have time. First, Trump, let's talk about this. Let's 85 00:05:14,880 --> 00:05:17,360 Speaker 1: talk about what happened here. Oh and if I can 86 00:05:17,640 --> 00:05:19,880 Speaker 1: take some time to take a part the Southern Poverty 87 00:05:19,960 --> 00:05:22,320 Speaker 1: Law Center later on in the show, I will, I am, 88 00:05:22,360 --> 00:05:25,919 Speaker 1: I am have been a longstanding not just critic, but 89 00:05:26,000 --> 00:05:29,960 Speaker 1: I think the Southern Poverty Law Centers work, especially when 90 00:05:29,960 --> 00:05:33,280 Speaker 1: it comes to conservatives and the defamation of conservatism. It's 91 00:05:33,279 --> 00:05:38,680 Speaker 1: a disgrace. But like I said, we'll get there. Let's 92 00:05:38,720 --> 00:05:42,159 Speaker 1: just take a step back from the latest machinations in 93 00:05:42,279 --> 00:05:45,080 Speaker 1: d C to set the table before we eat the meal. 94 00:05:46,320 --> 00:05:49,479 Speaker 1: Donald Trump is supposed to be a different kind of politician, 95 00:05:49,720 --> 00:05:53,080 Speaker 1: is a different kind of politician. We know that Donald 96 00:05:53,080 --> 00:05:56,640 Speaker 1: Trump was brought in by his supporters if you listen 97 00:05:56,720 --> 00:06:02,040 Speaker 1: to them, if you in the brilliant analysis of Selena 98 00:06:02,160 --> 00:06:06,039 Speaker 1: Zito from the Well She's Seen un commentator, I forget 99 00:06:06,080 --> 00:06:09,000 Speaker 1: she writes for these days, uh that if you took 100 00:06:09,040 --> 00:06:13,040 Speaker 1: Trump seriously but not literally, you would know that he 101 00:06:13,080 --> 00:06:16,719 Speaker 1: was coming into d C without pretending to bow and 102 00:06:16,880 --> 00:06:22,560 Speaker 1: scrape and do all the glad handing and pats on 103 00:06:22,600 --> 00:06:27,040 Speaker 1: the back that are expected from a Beltway operator, somebody 104 00:06:27,080 --> 00:06:30,880 Speaker 1: who knows the d C game and plays it well. No, 105 00:06:31,040 --> 00:06:34,120 Speaker 1: Trump was supposed to come in and not just shake 106 00:06:34,200 --> 00:06:38,520 Speaker 1: things up, but flip it upside down, to disrupt, to 107 00:06:38,760 --> 00:06:43,760 Speaker 1: be not just different, but to be a disruptor. And 108 00:06:43,920 --> 00:06:48,159 Speaker 1: part of disruption is at least temporary destruction. He's going 109 00:06:48,240 --> 00:06:51,799 Speaker 1: to cause problems. There will be waves, and those waves 110 00:06:51,800 --> 00:06:55,960 Speaker 1: will not be pleasant for a lot of folks are 111 00:06:56,000 --> 00:06:59,240 Speaker 1: used to doing business in d C a certain way. Now, 112 00:07:00,480 --> 00:07:04,360 Speaker 1: what's happened is, as you may have already uh picked, 113 00:07:04,400 --> 00:07:06,280 Speaker 1: you may have already heard this part of it, there's 114 00:07:06,279 --> 00:07:09,000 Speaker 1: a deal that has been struck between well, there was 115 00:07:09,040 --> 00:07:13,160 Speaker 1: structuring Donald Trump and Democrats Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer. 116 00:07:14,120 --> 00:07:17,240 Speaker 1: Now that on its face is troubling because Chuck Schumer 117 00:07:17,280 --> 00:07:23,000 Speaker 1: and Nancy Pelosi are classic Democrat power brokers without much 118 00:07:23,000 --> 00:07:27,720 Speaker 1: in the way of scruples or principles. But they are progressives, 119 00:07:28,040 --> 00:07:32,000 Speaker 1: they are leftists, and Trump was willing to go with 120 00:07:32,080 --> 00:07:34,120 Speaker 1: them on this issue. And at first it gave me 121 00:07:34,160 --> 00:07:36,600 Speaker 1: a lot of pause. I had said a few weeks ago, 122 00:07:37,000 --> 00:07:40,240 Speaker 1: there won't be a fight over the debt ceiling. There 123 00:07:40,240 --> 00:07:43,320 Speaker 1: won't be a fight over the debt ceiling because, uh, 124 00:07:43,880 --> 00:07:47,040 Speaker 1: they don't care enough. Congress doesn't care enough about the 125 00:07:47,080 --> 00:07:50,600 Speaker 1: wall to fight for it right now. And that was true. 126 00:07:51,720 --> 00:07:55,640 Speaker 1: But I suppose that from the conservative perspective on this issue, 127 00:07:56,200 --> 00:07:58,640 Speaker 1: which I try, I try to take as a as 128 00:07:58,640 --> 00:08:00,400 Speaker 1: a conservative, you don't hear people were for into them 129 00:08:00,440 --> 00:08:03,080 Speaker 1: as much as conservatives anymore these days? Do you? Some 130 00:08:03,120 --> 00:08:07,360 Speaker 1: people do, But now it it seems to be in flux. 131 00:08:07,480 --> 00:08:11,920 Speaker 1: The definitions are changing before our very eyes. But Trump 132 00:08:13,480 --> 00:08:17,720 Speaker 1: didn't do what the conservative option would have been here. 133 00:08:17,760 --> 00:08:22,120 Speaker 1: If he was to really make a point on the debt, 134 00:08:22,160 --> 00:08:25,200 Speaker 1: really make a point on building a wall, he should 135 00:08:25,200 --> 00:08:30,080 Speaker 1: have been pushing along with the GOP Congress for something, 136 00:08:30,320 --> 00:08:33,040 Speaker 1: some part of the deal that would make conservatives happy. 137 00:08:33,120 --> 00:08:35,800 Speaker 1: We didn't get that. That did not happen. So my 138 00:08:35,880 --> 00:08:38,440 Speaker 1: first reaction is, well, why, And I'm sure a lot 139 00:08:38,480 --> 00:08:40,280 Speaker 1: of you feel the same, Why why go along with 140 00:08:40,280 --> 00:08:48,040 Speaker 1: Truck Schumer and Nancy Pelosi? Why play the game with them? Well, first, 141 00:08:48,120 --> 00:08:49,920 Speaker 1: before I tell you the why, let me tell you 142 00:08:49,960 --> 00:08:53,800 Speaker 1: what Trump said. He agreed to play. Clip eight. Please, 143 00:08:54,240 --> 00:08:57,720 Speaker 1: we agreed to a three month extension on debt sailing, 144 00:08:58,360 --> 00:09:01,400 Speaker 1: which they consider to be sacred, very important. Always will 145 00:09:01,400 --> 00:09:05,840 Speaker 1: agree on debt ceiling automatically because of the importance of it, 146 00:09:06,360 --> 00:09:10,840 Speaker 1: also in the CRS, and also on Harvey, which now 147 00:09:10,840 --> 00:09:13,160 Speaker 1: we're gonna be adding something because of what's going on 148 00:09:13,200 --> 00:09:17,480 Speaker 1: in Florida. We have an extension which we'll go out 149 00:09:17,480 --> 00:09:21,880 Speaker 1: to December that will include the debt ceiling, that will 150 00:09:21,920 --> 00:09:26,600 Speaker 1: include the CRS, and it will include Harvey. The amount 151 00:09:26,600 --> 00:09:29,040 Speaker 1: of money that to be determined, but it will include 152 00:09:29,040 --> 00:09:31,480 Speaker 1: because everyone is in favor obviously of taking care of 153 00:09:31,480 --> 00:09:35,560 Speaker 1: that situation. So we all very much agree. So you 154 00:09:35,600 --> 00:09:38,040 Speaker 1: have the you have the President laying out what has 155 00:09:38,040 --> 00:09:41,000 Speaker 1: been agreed to, and understandably a lot of conservatives are 156 00:09:42,000 --> 00:09:45,000 Speaker 1: not just initially be fuddled by this, but they were 157 00:09:45,040 --> 00:09:49,360 Speaker 1: pretty angry. They feel sold out. And I understand that 158 00:09:49,440 --> 00:09:51,280 Speaker 1: I was looking at this when at first, when the 159 00:09:51,280 --> 00:09:55,720 Speaker 1: news first broke it was yesterday, I was thinking to myself, well, 160 00:09:55,880 --> 00:09:58,840 Speaker 1: how do how do we explain this. I also refused 161 00:09:58,880 --> 00:10:03,600 Speaker 1: to take a position um that Donald Trump is just 162 00:10:03,679 --> 00:10:07,440 Speaker 1: beyond that that because he's not conservative, he's he's beyond 163 00:10:07,559 --> 00:10:13,479 Speaker 1: salvation as a political figure, and it just will somehow 164 00:10:13,640 --> 00:10:16,200 Speaker 1: help the will help the conservative cause to sit around 165 00:10:16,200 --> 00:10:18,560 Speaker 1: and talk about how he's not conservative, he's not good enough. 166 00:10:18,760 --> 00:10:21,520 Speaker 1: You know, there becomes a holier than thou aspect to 167 00:10:21,640 --> 00:10:24,800 Speaker 1: conservatism that we have to be on on guard against. 168 00:10:25,760 --> 00:10:29,400 Speaker 1: It does happen. Who can be the most conservative I knew. 169 00:10:29,440 --> 00:10:35,080 Speaker 1: I remember people that were very uh, very big followings, 170 00:10:35,200 --> 00:10:37,600 Speaker 1: very well thought of, couldn't talk enough about how tea 171 00:10:37,640 --> 00:10:39,920 Speaker 1: party they were. You know, I'm so so tea party. 172 00:10:39,920 --> 00:10:42,120 Speaker 1: I'm more tea party than the next. And you haven't 173 00:10:42,240 --> 00:10:44,080 Speaker 1: heard them say anything about that in quite a while, 174 00:10:44,160 --> 00:10:46,000 Speaker 1: have you. You haven't heard them talk about the dead 175 00:10:46,040 --> 00:10:49,440 Speaker 1: or the deficit in quite a while, either. Always be 176 00:10:49,520 --> 00:10:51,720 Speaker 1: on the lookout for people that are trying to ride 177 00:10:51,800 --> 00:10:56,120 Speaker 1: the wave and not at least be moored, at least 178 00:10:56,120 --> 00:11:01,160 Speaker 1: be tied down to some some basic principles. And I 179 00:11:01,240 --> 00:11:04,439 Speaker 1: know that that's why people can be at times unnerved 180 00:11:04,440 --> 00:11:07,600 Speaker 1: by Trump, because what does he really stand for? It's 181 00:11:07,640 --> 00:11:09,640 Speaker 1: not always clear. I'm not going to pretend that it's 182 00:11:09,640 --> 00:11:14,760 Speaker 1: clear to be other than disrupt change things, cause there 183 00:11:14,760 --> 00:11:18,120 Speaker 1: to be the possibility of if you believe the possibility 184 00:11:18,120 --> 00:11:20,480 Speaker 1: of openings for something else, if you believe that chaos 185 00:11:20,520 --> 00:11:24,679 Speaker 1: is an opportunity. One of the great a truism is 186 00:11:24,720 --> 00:11:27,280 Speaker 1: great cliches. Depending on who you ask of all time, 187 00:11:27,559 --> 00:11:31,280 Speaker 1: Trump is causing a degree of political chaos. I see 188 00:11:31,320 --> 00:11:33,840 Speaker 1: some of the same people out there who can't say 189 00:11:33,920 --> 00:11:38,040 Speaker 1: enough nasty things about the sellout Republicans, about the establishment 190 00:11:38,120 --> 00:11:41,560 Speaker 1: sell out Ryan, or the establishments sellout McConnell. Now, all 191 00:11:41,600 --> 00:11:45,320 Speaker 1: of a sudden Trump goes and strikes a deal and 192 00:11:45,360 --> 00:11:49,360 Speaker 1: cuts McConnell and and Ryan out of it, and people 193 00:11:49,360 --> 00:11:51,320 Speaker 1: are saying, well, look at how terrible this is. Well, well, 194 00:11:51,320 --> 00:11:54,360 Speaker 1: which is it? Does he need to bring McConnell and 195 00:11:54,480 --> 00:11:57,960 Speaker 1: Ryan to heal and show that he's going to be 196 00:11:58,000 --> 00:12:00,760 Speaker 1: the one that's driving the agenda? Are they sell out 197 00:12:00,800 --> 00:12:02,840 Speaker 1: so or not? I it depends on the day, it 198 00:12:02,880 --> 00:12:06,160 Speaker 1: feels like, depending on who you listen to on this issue. 199 00:12:06,160 --> 00:12:09,960 Speaker 1: Want a whole bunch of issues. So here's what I 200 00:12:10,160 --> 00:12:12,160 Speaker 1: here's what I didn't initially pick up from this, and 201 00:12:12,200 --> 00:12:14,120 Speaker 1: I wanted to put this out there, and this is Look, 202 00:12:14,120 --> 00:12:18,839 Speaker 1: there's a lot going on here. For one thing, you 203 00:12:18,920 --> 00:12:22,440 Speaker 1: have the Harvey relief effort underway, and you have about 204 00:12:22,480 --> 00:12:28,000 Speaker 1: fifty according to the most recent polling of Americans think 205 00:12:28,040 --> 00:12:31,679 Speaker 1: that Trump did a pretty good job on Harvey, which 206 00:12:31,800 --> 00:12:35,200 Speaker 1: when you're looking at Trump and pull numbers fift really strong. 207 00:12:36,200 --> 00:12:40,120 Speaker 1: So he recognizes that this is a moment, and you 208 00:12:40,120 --> 00:12:42,480 Speaker 1: could say this is selfish, but he's the president. If 209 00:12:42,480 --> 00:12:47,400 Speaker 1: his selfishness allows him to create greater cloud on issues 210 00:12:47,440 --> 00:12:50,320 Speaker 1: that will matter more in a few months, we'll see, 211 00:12:50,320 --> 00:12:52,440 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna you can't give him a pass forever, right. 212 00:12:52,640 --> 00:12:53,959 Speaker 1: I don't want to be this. I don't want to 213 00:12:54,000 --> 00:12:57,480 Speaker 1: be somebody who if Trump, if Trump loses his reelection 214 00:12:57,559 --> 00:13:00,040 Speaker 1: bid and hasn't achieved anything that he set out to 215 00:13:00,040 --> 00:13:01,960 Speaker 1: achieve in the first place, other than to annoy the 216 00:13:02,040 --> 00:13:04,319 Speaker 1: media and be not Hillary. I don't want to be 217 00:13:04,320 --> 00:13:07,000 Speaker 1: the person who's saying, well, you know, it's any day now, 218 00:13:07,120 --> 00:13:09,400 Speaker 1: it's gonna you know, he's gonna come over the the 219 00:13:09,480 --> 00:13:14,200 Speaker 1: hilltop with the reinforcements. No, but there's still time. If 220 00:13:14,200 --> 00:13:18,600 Speaker 1: Trump consolidating power and consolidating his own political momentum right 221 00:13:18,640 --> 00:13:22,960 Speaker 1: now is useful for the important issues, is useful for 222 00:13:23,040 --> 00:13:27,200 Speaker 1: tax reform, is usual useful for border security, then it 223 00:13:27,240 --> 00:13:30,079 Speaker 1: makes sense to me. I'm not saying it's perfect. I'm 224 00:13:30,080 --> 00:13:31,400 Speaker 1: not saying it's how I would do it, but it 225 00:13:31,440 --> 00:13:36,120 Speaker 1: makes sense to me. Also, I think that no matter 226 00:13:36,160 --> 00:13:40,320 Speaker 1: what you think of Trump's political savvy in terms of 227 00:13:40,320 --> 00:13:43,200 Speaker 1: how to operate as president and work with the Congress, 228 00:13:43,200 --> 00:13:45,320 Speaker 1: this is not something that he has any experience with, 229 00:13:45,400 --> 00:13:49,120 Speaker 1: and clearly he's not doing it the way that the 230 00:13:49,200 --> 00:13:51,480 Speaker 1: vast majority of folks would want him to. I think 231 00:13:51,640 --> 00:13:53,720 Speaker 1: if working with the Congress is supposed to be a 232 00:13:53,720 --> 00:13:55,440 Speaker 1: major part of his job, which I think we can 233 00:13:55,480 --> 00:13:59,520 Speaker 1: all agree it is. However, he knows that he can't 234 00:13:59,520 --> 00:14:02,880 Speaker 1: be bushed, understands the media, and if you look at 235 00:14:02,880 --> 00:14:07,200 Speaker 1: what happened to Bush after Hurricane Katrina, there was such 236 00:14:07,400 --> 00:14:14,439 Speaker 1: a profound assault on the administration from the media, from 237 00:14:14,480 --> 00:14:19,200 Speaker 1: the Democrats all over the place because of the it 238 00:14:19,240 --> 00:14:22,640 Speaker 1: was almost they made it almost as though Bush were 239 00:14:22,760 --> 00:14:26,080 Speaker 1: responsible for Katrina. That was how horrific it was. It 240 00:14:26,120 --> 00:14:29,880 Speaker 1: was like Bush set the whole thing in motion. Trump 241 00:14:30,000 --> 00:14:35,080 Speaker 1: doesn't just want to have a bipartisan moment of coming 242 00:14:35,080 --> 00:14:38,640 Speaker 1: together that yes, he can capitalize on for political reasons 243 00:14:38,720 --> 00:14:40,160 Speaker 1: right now. He also wants to make sure he doesn't 244 00:14:40,160 --> 00:14:44,200 Speaker 1: fall into the Bush trap of getting blamed in any 245 00:14:44,240 --> 00:14:46,120 Speaker 1: way for what's happening right now, and once you start 246 00:14:46,160 --> 00:14:52,000 Speaker 1: playing games with relief efforts in the funding for them, 247 00:14:52,040 --> 00:14:54,560 Speaker 1: you can run into problems very quickly on that score. 248 00:14:54,640 --> 00:14:58,040 Speaker 1: So if you're looking for the ways that this deal 249 00:14:58,080 --> 00:15:01,840 Speaker 1: with Schumer and Pelosi made sense, at least to Trump, 250 00:15:02,840 --> 00:15:06,440 Speaker 1: I think they're there. They're not necessarily obvious, but they're there. 251 00:15:07,040 --> 00:15:09,880 Speaker 1: We also have to see what happens with this December showdown. 252 00:15:10,200 --> 00:15:13,200 Speaker 1: It does annoy me that we were told the last 253 00:15:13,200 --> 00:15:16,240 Speaker 1: time around that there wouldn't be a debt ceiling fight. 254 00:15:16,840 --> 00:15:20,640 Speaker 1: But keep in mind that they also funded the government 255 00:15:20,680 --> 00:15:23,280 Speaker 1: for a year when Republicans finally took back the House 256 00:15:23,280 --> 00:15:25,680 Speaker 1: in the Senate, So there's a lot of blame to 257 00:15:25,680 --> 00:15:27,000 Speaker 1: go around on that. All right, we'll get into this 258 00:15:27,040 --> 00:15:31,440 Speaker 1: eight four E been sorry E at eight to five, 259 00:15:31,520 --> 00:15:34,000 Speaker 1: will be right back. Stay with me. The President made 260 00:15:34,000 --> 00:15:37,560 Speaker 1: it really clear and what he was aiming for, uh 261 00:15:37,720 --> 00:15:43,440 Speaker 1: in that meeting yesterday was a bipartisan moment while the 262 00:15:43,520 --> 00:15:47,280 Speaker 1: country is facing two horrible hurricanes, and so what he 263 00:15:47,400 --> 00:15:49,080 Speaker 1: made clear to us is he didn't want to have 264 00:15:49,280 --> 00:15:51,800 Speaker 1: I look, personally, I think the debt limit in the 265 00:15:51,800 --> 00:15:54,360 Speaker 1: credit markets, the longer, the better for the stability the 266 00:15:54,360 --> 00:15:57,280 Speaker 1: credit markets. It's my strong opinion. Um, but he was 267 00:15:57,400 --> 00:16:01,200 Speaker 1: interested in making sure that this is a bi partisan 268 00:16:01,240 --> 00:16:03,480 Speaker 1: moment while we responded these hurricanes, and he made that clear, 269 00:16:03,480 --> 00:16:07,720 Speaker 1: and I think that's what his motivation was. So Trump 270 00:16:07,840 --> 00:16:10,280 Speaker 1: wanted to avoid a political food fight when the country's 271 00:16:10,280 --> 00:16:14,560 Speaker 1: recovering from Harvary and bracing itself for IRMA. That is 272 00:16:14,560 --> 00:16:16,440 Speaker 1: what Speaker of the House Paul Ryan had to say 273 00:16:16,480 --> 00:16:24,640 Speaker 1: about it today. Plausible. Certainly h will no more based 274 00:16:24,680 --> 00:16:27,560 Speaker 1: on what happens if there's another excuse in December. And 275 00:16:27,680 --> 00:16:30,600 Speaker 1: perhaps I'm now setting myself up to be that guy 276 00:16:30,680 --> 00:16:35,640 Speaker 1: who sounded naive in September. But if there's another political 277 00:16:35,680 --> 00:16:38,600 Speaker 1: excuse of some kind in December, then then we'll know 278 00:16:38,680 --> 00:16:41,200 Speaker 1: that it's never gonna happen. And I think it's also 279 00:16:41,240 --> 00:16:45,160 Speaker 1: fair to say that it wasn't gonna happen because of Congress. 280 00:16:45,240 --> 00:16:47,520 Speaker 1: Wasn't gonna happen with Trump. There was not going to 281 00:16:47,680 --> 00:16:53,280 Speaker 1: be a shut down to get through Republican priorities. That 282 00:16:54,200 --> 00:16:57,920 Speaker 1: the Democrats are doing everything kind of stop. So we'll 283 00:16:57,920 --> 00:17:01,720 Speaker 1: see Jessica in Florida singing on the I heart app page, Jessica, 284 00:17:02,360 --> 00:17:04,320 Speaker 1: hey back, how are you I'm good. Thank you for 285 00:17:04,320 --> 00:17:06,399 Speaker 1: calling in. You were in Florida? Are you? Are you 286 00:17:06,440 --> 00:17:09,159 Speaker 1: in the path of this monster? I am, Um, you 287 00:17:09,200 --> 00:17:12,000 Speaker 1: actually spoke to my husband yesterday. UM. I'm an active 288 00:17:12,080 --> 00:17:15,399 Speaker 1: duty Coast Guard station in Fort Lauderdale, and we've been 289 00:17:15,440 --> 00:17:18,000 Speaker 1: making hurricane preps for a few days right now, and 290 00:17:18,000 --> 00:17:20,600 Speaker 1: and uh, that's what we got going on around here. 291 00:17:21,440 --> 00:17:23,879 Speaker 1: What can you tell us about what you're hearing just 292 00:17:23,960 --> 00:17:30,359 Speaker 1: in terms of the ferocity and and mile per hour winds. Also, 293 00:17:30,440 --> 00:17:33,560 Speaker 1: my my my research is my team here tells me 294 00:17:33,600 --> 00:17:36,200 Speaker 1: that this is much bigger than if they actually look 295 00:17:36,240 --> 00:17:39,959 Speaker 1: at what how large a hurricane in the actual diameter 296 00:17:40,200 --> 00:17:43,639 Speaker 1: of say Andrew back in what with early nineties. This 297 00:17:43,760 --> 00:17:46,840 Speaker 1: is many, This is orders of magnitude large. Is a 298 00:17:46,920 --> 00:17:50,720 Speaker 1: much bigger hurricane from what I understand. Yes, absolutely, UM. 299 00:17:50,760 --> 00:17:52,520 Speaker 1: The good news being that we've seen it coming for 300 00:17:52,560 --> 00:17:54,399 Speaker 1: a long time. And even when we went out to 301 00:17:54,400 --> 00:17:57,240 Speaker 1: make our own personal preps last last Sunday, almost a 302 00:17:57,280 --> 00:18:00,320 Speaker 1: week ago, UM, there were already water shortage is and 303 00:18:00,400 --> 00:18:02,000 Speaker 1: things of that nature. So that to me is a 304 00:18:02,040 --> 00:18:05,600 Speaker 1: good sign that people are preparing and hopefully, um, making 305 00:18:05,600 --> 00:18:09,120 Speaker 1: the right decisions and doing the right things. UM. Here 306 00:18:09,160 --> 00:18:11,639 Speaker 1: here in Fort Lauderdale for the Coastguard. Wise, we we 307 00:18:11,680 --> 00:18:14,840 Speaker 1: set hurricane to condition to which means we expect gale 308 00:18:14,880 --> 00:18:18,000 Speaker 1: force wins within twenty four to forty eight hours. And 309 00:18:18,040 --> 00:18:20,840 Speaker 1: with that UM the port um port everglades here in 310 00:18:20,880 --> 00:18:23,840 Speaker 1: Fort Lauderdale, which is a major port not only cruise ships, 311 00:18:23,880 --> 00:18:28,000 Speaker 1: petroleum and cargo. UM they've set condition x ray, which 312 00:18:28,000 --> 00:18:31,040 Speaker 1: again means that they're expecting coast or gale force wins 313 00:18:31,040 --> 00:18:33,840 Speaker 1: within forty eight hours, so the port remains open and 314 00:18:33,880 --> 00:18:36,960 Speaker 1: we're able to get UM fuel and things of that nature. However, 315 00:18:37,200 --> 00:18:40,160 Speaker 1: that will be coming to a close here shortly. Can 316 00:18:40,200 --> 00:18:42,560 Speaker 1: I is it? Are you expecting you'll have to do 317 00:18:43,040 --> 00:18:45,480 Speaker 1: rescues from out at sea? I mean, do people either 318 00:18:45,600 --> 00:18:48,080 Speaker 1: just not know we're not pay attention and go out 319 00:18:48,680 --> 00:18:50,159 Speaker 1: and go out on the water even though this is 320 00:18:50,200 --> 00:18:53,040 Speaker 1: coming absolutely, I mean the Coast Guard's primary mission and 321 00:18:53,119 --> 00:18:55,960 Speaker 1: safety of life that see, So we're positioning ourselves to 322 00:18:56,000 --> 00:18:58,200 Speaker 1: hopefully be able to respond to that, but there will 323 00:18:58,240 --> 00:19:00,840 Speaker 1: inevitably be a time where we will will be unable 324 00:19:00,920 --> 00:19:05,359 Speaker 1: ourselves to to really respond. However, UM, hopefully we've taken 325 00:19:05,359 --> 00:19:07,280 Speaker 1: the proper steps that we can either come in behind 326 00:19:07,280 --> 00:19:09,680 Speaker 1: the storm or get out there early enough before the 327 00:19:09,720 --> 00:19:11,880 Speaker 1: storm hits to help anybody that may still be out there. 328 00:19:12,280 --> 00:19:14,199 Speaker 1: But so, yeah, you're expecting there will there will be 329 00:19:14,240 --> 00:19:15,960 Speaker 1: some people that are in the unlucky spot of being 330 00:19:16,000 --> 00:19:19,160 Speaker 1: out there. That's that's terrifying. Absolutely so. Right now, we're 331 00:19:19,160 --> 00:19:22,120 Speaker 1: just encouraging people to stay off the water, secure their belongings, 332 00:19:22,200 --> 00:19:24,520 Speaker 1: and evacuate if they get the mandatory order to do so. 333 00:19:24,720 --> 00:19:28,080 Speaker 1: And alright, Jessica, thank you for your service and thank 334 00:19:28,080 --> 00:19:33,200 Speaker 1: you for your call. Massive Hurricane Irma is currently battering 335 00:19:33,760 --> 00:19:36,480 Speaker 1: Turks and Caicos Islands in the Caribbean and making its 336 00:19:36,480 --> 00:19:40,080 Speaker 1: way towards Florida. In fact, it has believed that Miami 337 00:19:40,600 --> 00:19:44,160 Speaker 1: right now, based on the trajectory of this enormous storm, 338 00:19:44,400 --> 00:19:47,760 Speaker 1: is right in the cross hairs. Uh, what do we 339 00:19:47,760 --> 00:19:49,359 Speaker 1: know about this and what are we going to be 340 00:19:49,480 --> 00:19:53,119 Speaker 1: looking for and what should the response, the preparations and 341 00:19:53,160 --> 00:19:56,480 Speaker 1: the response look like. We've got job Astarti on the line. 342 00:19:56,520 --> 00:20:00,399 Speaker 1: He's a meteorologist with weather Bell. He wrote a piece 343 00:20:00,560 --> 00:20:07,119 Speaker 1: Hurricane Irma a catastrophic event for Florida. Great to have you, Joe, Uh, 344 00:20:07,760 --> 00:20:11,760 Speaker 1: great to be here. I'm not um that stumped me there, 345 00:20:11,800 --> 00:20:14,000 Speaker 1: I wrote a piece, what what when? I'm sorry? I 346 00:20:14,040 --> 00:20:16,200 Speaker 1: know you You're quoted in a piece. Hurricane Irma is 347 00:20:16,240 --> 00:20:19,800 Speaker 1: a catastrophic event for Florida. Okay, okay, I was just wondering. 348 00:20:19,800 --> 00:20:22,560 Speaker 1: I didn't see the what I did right back on 349 00:20:22,920 --> 00:20:27,520 Speaker 1: June six, when after the Parish climate accords, I reminded 350 00:20:27,520 --> 00:20:32,159 Speaker 1: everyone that this season we have, we believe that the 351 00:20:32,320 --> 00:20:36,040 Speaker 1: major hit drought was going to end because of solid 352 00:20:36,119 --> 00:20:39,919 Speaker 1: meteorological forecast that we made earlier in the season, and 353 00:20:40,000 --> 00:20:42,520 Speaker 1: that these people that were screaming and yelling about the 354 00:20:43,000 --> 00:20:46,720 Speaker 1: situation there, you know, with Mira Lago saying, well now 355 00:20:46,760 --> 00:20:51,400 Speaker 1: Trump's Trump's uh properties are going underwater because the climate change. 356 00:20:51,520 --> 00:20:54,040 Speaker 1: I reminded them that in the nineteen forties, Florida got 357 00:20:54,080 --> 00:20:57,280 Speaker 1: hit by ten or eleven major hurricanes, and what we're 358 00:20:57,280 --> 00:21:01,720 Speaker 1: seeing here is the return of the kind of hurricanes. 359 00:21:01,760 --> 00:21:04,879 Speaker 1: In the strongest hurricane ever to hit one through the 360 00:21:04,960 --> 00:21:08,720 Speaker 1: Keys had wins the two an hour. So I think 361 00:21:08,720 --> 00:21:13,600 Speaker 1: that people do not understand the hurricane history of Florida. 362 00:21:13,920 --> 00:21:17,480 Speaker 1: And of course, while this is a spectacular storm, um 363 00:21:17,520 --> 00:21:20,240 Speaker 1: we have seen storms that when they get to Florida 364 00:21:20,320 --> 00:21:23,240 Speaker 1: are comparable, but I'm amazed at what I'm watching. I 365 00:21:23,960 --> 00:21:26,960 Speaker 1: it's even beyond what I thought with this the global 366 00:21:27,000 --> 00:21:30,400 Speaker 1: warming ilk in the and the things they're saying. They say, 367 00:21:30,640 --> 00:21:33,840 Speaker 1: they're like they sit in the bushes and hide for 368 00:21:33,960 --> 00:21:37,640 Speaker 1: twelve years and then two major hurricanes show up. They 369 00:21:37,680 --> 00:21:41,200 Speaker 1: don't predict them before the season, five days before, they 370 00:21:41,200 --> 00:21:43,000 Speaker 1: had no idea they were going to develop, and then 371 00:21:43,040 --> 00:21:44,920 Speaker 1: they come out and tell us all it's global warming. 372 00:21:45,040 --> 00:21:48,159 Speaker 1: So it's it's really a bad situation as far as 373 00:21:48,160 --> 00:21:52,840 Speaker 1: that goes to. Yeah, the politicization is rampant on this issue, 374 00:21:52,840 --> 00:21:55,600 Speaker 1: and in fact, I've I've seen uh some people on 375 00:21:55,640 --> 00:21:58,040 Speaker 1: social media suggesting that now is now is the time 376 00:21:58,080 --> 00:22:00,840 Speaker 1: to push for the criminalization of aim at denial or 377 00:22:00,880 --> 00:22:04,600 Speaker 1: climate change denial. Rather, that's that's that's gaining traction. Well, 378 00:22:04,720 --> 00:22:09,840 Speaker 1: while while normal Americans are either preparing or hoping, praying 379 00:22:09,880 --> 00:22:13,080 Speaker 1: and trying to send help and for the hurricane that's 380 00:22:13,119 --> 00:22:16,200 Speaker 1: about to hit, there are these people out there, these 381 00:22:16,400 --> 00:22:20,120 Speaker 1: climate zealots, who want to use this moment right now, 382 00:22:20,160 --> 00:22:26,679 Speaker 1: this this emotionally heightened atmosphere to push for legislation and 383 00:22:26,680 --> 00:22:29,639 Speaker 1: and to push for political action having to do with 384 00:22:29,680 --> 00:22:31,960 Speaker 1: climate change. So it is out there, Joe, I know 385 00:22:32,160 --> 00:22:35,159 Speaker 1: before this even hits. That's what they're saying. Well, they 386 00:22:35,240 --> 00:22:37,560 Speaker 1: see what And what gets me is they didn't predicted. 387 00:22:38,440 --> 00:22:41,160 Speaker 1: They didn't say if they're so good at it, If 388 00:22:41,160 --> 00:22:43,080 Speaker 1: they're so good at it, how come out of the 389 00:22:43,119 --> 00:22:46,479 Speaker 1: forty waves have come off Africa, only seven have actually developed. 390 00:22:46,480 --> 00:22:49,040 Speaker 1: What's the CEO two ferry that goes, I'm gonna be 391 00:22:49,080 --> 00:22:52,160 Speaker 1: stole by magic upon Irma and she's going to go crazy? 392 00:22:52,440 --> 00:22:55,000 Speaker 1: How do they not? That's what I can't understand why 393 00:22:55,040 --> 00:22:59,000 Speaker 1: the American public, anybody in the public buys, buys these 394 00:22:59,080 --> 00:23:02,159 Speaker 1: ideas where they make these broad statements, but when the 395 00:23:02,240 --> 00:23:05,040 Speaker 1: storm is in front of them, the very season is 396 00:23:05,080 --> 00:23:07,399 Speaker 1: in front of them, how come they can't recognize it 397 00:23:07,880 --> 00:23:09,640 Speaker 1: in terms of and I can just ask you, Joe, 398 00:23:09,800 --> 00:23:13,600 Speaker 1: in terms of the the size, the power, and therefore 399 00:23:13,720 --> 00:23:17,280 Speaker 1: the expected damage of ERMA right now versus what we 400 00:23:17,320 --> 00:23:19,840 Speaker 1: saw with Harvey. Can can you can you tell us 401 00:23:19,840 --> 00:23:23,960 Speaker 1: what the comparison looks like? Yeah, Harvey was a relatively 402 00:23:24,160 --> 00:23:26,520 Speaker 1: uh I don't mean to make light of it, a 403 00:23:26,560 --> 00:23:30,520 Speaker 1: low grade category four. It was the seventh strongest storm 404 00:23:30,560 --> 00:23:33,399 Speaker 1: that hit Texas. There were plenty of stronger storms UH 405 00:23:33,480 --> 00:23:36,880 Speaker 1: to hit Texas, but it got stuck and they had 406 00:23:36,920 --> 00:23:39,560 Speaker 1: tremendous amounts of rain and it was easy to see. 407 00:23:39,600 --> 00:23:42,960 Speaker 1: It wasn't hard to see it's coming. Um, this is 408 00:23:42,960 --> 00:23:45,760 Speaker 1: a different piece. This is the UH. This is the 409 00:23:45,840 --> 00:23:49,600 Speaker 1: kind of storm that you put it up there with 410 00:23:49,640 --> 00:23:52,240 Speaker 1: the ninety eight hurricane, you put it up there with 411 00:23:52,280 --> 00:23:56,119 Speaker 1: the Hurricane Donna UH in nineteen sixty And a lot 412 00:23:56,200 --> 00:23:59,080 Speaker 1: of people don't even know what I'm talking about, which 413 00:23:59,160 --> 00:24:01,119 Speaker 1: is one of the problems with the whole climate changes. 414 00:24:01,160 --> 00:24:03,720 Speaker 1: You people don't people don't know what happened before nine 415 00:24:04,680 --> 00:24:09,160 Speaker 1: in Florida. Go to go google the nineteen Great Miami 416 00:24:09,280 --> 00:24:13,520 Speaker 1: Hurricane and take a look at what that did in 417 00:24:13,560 --> 00:24:16,800 Speaker 1: West Palm Beach. And so what happens is I am 418 00:24:16,920 --> 00:24:19,560 Speaker 1: bringing things up trying to say, how do you put 419 00:24:19,600 --> 00:24:22,280 Speaker 1: this in perspective? You've got to go back and look 420 00:24:22,520 --> 00:24:26,000 Speaker 1: at storms where when I looked at the pictures, I said, 421 00:24:26,240 --> 00:24:29,920 Speaker 1: how could that possibly happen? Trains being blown off their 422 00:24:29,960 --> 00:24:35,240 Speaker 1: tracks and in entire entire islands going under water. And 423 00:24:35,280 --> 00:24:38,000 Speaker 1: this is the kind of storm that could cut For instance, 424 00:24:38,119 --> 00:24:40,880 Speaker 1: if this comes across the Florida Keys, if it moves 425 00:24:40,920 --> 00:24:44,000 Speaker 1: a little bit further west, and the projected track right now, 426 00:24:44,200 --> 00:24:46,480 Speaker 1: it's going to cut off the Florida Keys. There's gonna 427 00:24:46,520 --> 00:24:48,920 Speaker 1: be a twenty ft wall of water plus waves to 428 00:24:49,040 --> 00:24:53,240 Speaker 1: fort and people. People go, how can that happen? Well, 429 00:24:53,280 --> 00:24:57,600 Speaker 1: it's happened before and it may happen again. So it's 430 00:24:57,800 --> 00:25:02,120 Speaker 1: it's I can't, I can't. All were uh stress how 431 00:25:02,160 --> 00:25:04,760 Speaker 1: bad this is? Now? As far as it covers the 432 00:25:04,840 --> 00:25:07,840 Speaker 1: state of Texas, as cloud Shield does, the worst part 433 00:25:07,840 --> 00:25:11,000 Speaker 1: of the storm is within maybe seventy five miles to 434 00:25:11,000 --> 00:25:13,040 Speaker 1: the west and a hundred and fifty miles to the east. 435 00:25:13,040 --> 00:25:15,880 Speaker 1: That's a big, big hurricane, There's no question about that. 436 00:25:16,600 --> 00:25:20,120 Speaker 1: But what I'm looking at, and I always put these 437 00:25:20,160 --> 00:25:24,040 Speaker 1: things in perspective, in the perspective of history, this is 438 00:25:24,080 --> 00:25:27,639 Speaker 1: going to go down as one of the uh more 439 00:25:27,720 --> 00:25:31,720 Speaker 1: destructive storms ever to hit the United States. Um and 440 00:25:31,880 --> 00:25:33,879 Speaker 1: uh it's in the top five. I'll tell you. I 441 00:25:33,880 --> 00:25:36,119 Speaker 1: mean from what we've seen already. Joe based on we're 442 00:25:36,119 --> 00:25:38,879 Speaker 1: speaking of Job bastardis a meteorologist at and he's with 443 00:25:38,960 --> 00:25:42,200 Speaker 1: weather Bell. Uh. Some of these smaller islands, I know 444 00:25:42,280 --> 00:25:45,439 Speaker 1: that the home construction on them is not necessarily you 445 00:25:45,480 --> 00:25:47,800 Speaker 1: know what would because they're literally up to code in 446 00:25:47,840 --> 00:25:52,560 Speaker 1: the United States. But hundred wind that that's gonna do 447 00:25:52,640 --> 00:25:54,800 Speaker 1: a lot of damage, even to a really well built home. 448 00:25:55,440 --> 00:25:59,480 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I guess. And this is like ripping roofs off, right, 449 00:25:59,520 --> 00:26:01,880 Speaker 1: this is this is that level of storm. Yeah. Well, 450 00:26:01,920 --> 00:26:03,639 Speaker 1: the other thing is that you know, I don't know 451 00:26:03,680 --> 00:26:06,919 Speaker 1: what these skyscrapers in Miami tested for. We're not going 452 00:26:06,960 --> 00:26:09,719 Speaker 1: to knock over the skyscraper, but what may happen is 453 00:26:09,760 --> 00:26:12,639 Speaker 1: the pressure may the pressure, the force of the wind 454 00:26:12,680 --> 00:26:15,520 Speaker 1: going by may pull all the glass out of That's 455 00:26:15,520 --> 00:26:18,359 Speaker 1: what happened in Houston Duringike, and it happened in the 456 00:26:18,680 --> 00:26:21,919 Speaker 1: Alicia just all the skyscrapers got the a lot of 457 00:26:21,920 --> 00:26:25,400 Speaker 1: the glass ripped out of them. Um. It is fortunate 458 00:26:25,440 --> 00:26:28,159 Speaker 1: that this miss Puerto Rico to the north. And of 459 00:26:28,200 --> 00:26:31,560 Speaker 1: course it's interesting in that the Prime Minister of our 460 00:26:31,600 --> 00:26:34,760 Speaker 1: Buddha today said it looked like a bomb hit his island. 461 00:26:35,080 --> 00:26:38,280 Speaker 1: We actually had to talk about that in the office 462 00:26:38,280 --> 00:26:42,080 Speaker 1: back on Monday, and I said, you know, I I 463 00:26:42,080 --> 00:26:44,679 Speaker 1: I did not want to describe it that way before 464 00:26:44,840 --> 00:26:47,680 Speaker 1: because I think that gets a little bit uh over 465 00:26:47,720 --> 00:26:51,080 Speaker 1: the top. But that's exactly what this is. Like where 466 00:26:51,080 --> 00:26:54,280 Speaker 1: it hits directly. It's going through the uh the Turks 467 00:26:54,280 --> 00:26:56,399 Speaker 1: and Caicos now, and these people are just going to 468 00:26:56,440 --> 00:27:00,640 Speaker 1: get just blasted. So um, it's a it's a very 469 00:27:00,720 --> 00:27:04,959 Speaker 1: very serious situation. And Joe, what happens for those who 470 00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:07,480 Speaker 1: are who are listening who don't have a background in 471 00:27:07,720 --> 00:27:11,680 Speaker 1: meteorology like you do. So the hurricane makes landfall, how far, 472 00:27:12,080 --> 00:27:15,880 Speaker 1: how far can it go before it dissipates? And how 473 00:27:15,960 --> 00:27:19,280 Speaker 1: much of the rest of the country can be affected 474 00:27:19,280 --> 00:27:21,560 Speaker 1: by a storm system of this size? I mean, you 475 00:27:21,560 --> 00:27:24,080 Speaker 1: know I'm gonna be back in New York next week. 476 00:27:24,240 --> 00:27:27,720 Speaker 1: I mean how far do the effects go. It's not 477 00:27:27,720 --> 00:27:30,000 Speaker 1: gonna affect New York, so you don't have to worry 478 00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:31,440 Speaker 1: about that. No, I know the hurricanes is not gonna 479 00:27:31,440 --> 00:27:33,040 Speaker 1: affect New York, but I'm wondering how how far I 480 00:27:33,040 --> 00:27:39,640 Speaker 1: mean Savannah's being uh yeah, Well, the the track is crucial, 481 00:27:39,680 --> 00:27:41,240 Speaker 1: and that if it comes up the East coast to 482 00:27:41,280 --> 00:27:44,640 Speaker 1: Florida and stays close to the water or back gets 483 00:27:44,640 --> 00:27:47,080 Speaker 1: back out over the water, it's going to be as 484 00:27:47,160 --> 00:27:49,880 Speaker 1: strong as you'll ever see hitting the Carolina's too. But 485 00:27:50,080 --> 00:27:54,080 Speaker 1: there's a chance that actually just stays over land. And uh, 486 00:27:54,160 --> 00:27:57,479 Speaker 1: and if that's the case, the the state of Florida 487 00:27:57,600 --> 00:28:00,040 Speaker 1: is devastated. This goes straight up the middle, but it 488 00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:03,520 Speaker 1: weakens as it's coming northward, So that why is it weakend? 489 00:28:03,560 --> 00:28:05,240 Speaker 1: I mean, I think that's part of this. You know what, 490 00:28:05,400 --> 00:28:09,440 Speaker 1: why what happens to it? And once it makes landfall, Well, 491 00:28:09,480 --> 00:28:11,960 Speaker 1: what happens is that the source of energy in the 492 00:28:12,080 --> 00:28:14,680 Speaker 1: tropical cyclone is the warm otion. You cut the feet 493 00:28:14,680 --> 00:28:17,480 Speaker 1: out from underneath it, it's gonna it's gonna start to die. 494 00:28:17,560 --> 00:28:19,800 Speaker 1: And the stronger the system is, the quicker it dies 495 00:28:19,880 --> 00:28:24,399 Speaker 1: relative to its strength. I I compare, uh, compare storms 496 00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:27,240 Speaker 1: like this to a nine one sprinter. You tweak the 497 00:28:27,280 --> 00:28:30,600 Speaker 1: ham hamstring, he's no longer nine one sprinter. Well, the 498 00:28:30,600 --> 00:28:32,720 Speaker 1: fact of the matter is that as soon as any 499 00:28:32,760 --> 00:28:36,679 Speaker 1: disruption takes place in the storm, the storm begins to weaken. 500 00:28:37,040 --> 00:28:40,040 Speaker 1: And if you put it over land, if you've got 501 00:28:40,040 --> 00:28:44,800 Speaker 1: a situation where the conditions to make it intensify with 502 00:28:44,960 --> 00:28:49,280 Speaker 1: such that you needed the water temperature eight degrees and 503 00:28:49,320 --> 00:28:52,040 Speaker 1: you bring it over land and temperatures of in the 504 00:28:52,080 --> 00:28:55,720 Speaker 1: seventies because it's raining and the land, the land doesn't 505 00:28:55,760 --> 00:28:58,720 Speaker 1: supply any more energy to the storm. The storm weakens 506 00:28:58,920 --> 00:29:01,960 Speaker 1: quite quickly, but we'll still pack a huge punch even 507 00:29:01,960 --> 00:29:06,200 Speaker 1: as it moves northward. Job but starts a meteorologist. Check 508 00:29:06,200 --> 00:29:09,440 Speaker 1: out his work at weather Bell and Joe, any any 509 00:29:09,560 --> 00:29:11,360 Speaker 1: words that you just wanna say. If we got a 510 00:29:11,400 --> 00:29:13,520 Speaker 1: lot of folks in Florida listening to this show, anything 511 00:29:13,520 --> 00:29:15,440 Speaker 1: you want to tell them that they might not already know, 512 00:29:15,520 --> 00:29:17,600 Speaker 1: or they just want to remind them of Well, they 513 00:29:17,640 --> 00:29:21,880 Speaker 1: have to they they have to be absolutely uh, they 514 00:29:21,920 --> 00:29:24,280 Speaker 1: have to pay attention to what's going on here. And 515 00:29:24,280 --> 00:29:27,360 Speaker 1: this is a serious situation. And I would I would 516 00:29:27,360 --> 00:29:32,440 Speaker 1: advise them to go google those storms Donna and Naples 517 00:29:32,640 --> 00:29:37,600 Speaker 1: for instance, Miami Hurricane, n West Palm Beach in the 518 00:29:37,720 --> 00:29:41,600 Speaker 1: nineteen Labor Day hurricane. If you don't believe what these 519 00:29:41,640 --> 00:29:44,880 Speaker 1: storms can do, I'd like it. And you know, years 520 00:29:44,880 --> 00:29:47,280 Speaker 1: and years ago before c O two took off, right 521 00:29:47,360 --> 00:29:49,440 Speaker 1: zero two, the cause of this right well, years and 522 00:29:49,560 --> 00:29:53,000 Speaker 1: years ago before that was the fancy argument. Go look 523 00:29:53,040 --> 00:29:55,560 Speaker 1: at what those storms did. And if you're in the 524 00:29:55,600 --> 00:29:58,440 Speaker 1: path of this storm, if that doesn't scare the daylights 525 00:29:58,480 --> 00:30:01,440 Speaker 1: out of you, nothing will, all right, Joe, Thanks so much, 526 00:30:01,480 --> 00:30:03,840 Speaker 1: Joe A starting everybody a team we're gonna run to 527 00:30:03,840 --> 00:30:06,600 Speaker 1: a break here. We'll come back and talk about DACA, 528 00:30:06,880 --> 00:30:11,280 Speaker 1: Title nine, Fine Sneine and her religious test for a 529 00:30:11,440 --> 00:30:14,640 Speaker 1: judicial nominee, and and much much more. Prior to leaving 530 00:30:14,640 --> 00:30:17,800 Speaker 1: the White House, I had a great bipartisan meeting with 531 00:30:17,920 --> 00:30:21,800 Speaker 1: Democrat and Republican leaders in Congress, and I'm committed to 532 00:30:21,840 --> 00:30:26,480 Speaker 1: working with both parties to deliver for our wonderful, wonderful citizens. 533 00:30:26,480 --> 00:30:29,320 Speaker 1: It's about time. We had a great meeting with Chuck Schumer, 534 00:30:29,440 --> 00:30:34,600 Speaker 1: Nancy Pelosi and the whole Republican leadership group. And I'll 535 00:30:34,640 --> 00:30:37,160 Speaker 1: tell you what. We walked out of their Mitch and 536 00:30:37,200 --> 00:30:41,760 Speaker 1: Paul and everybody. Kevin and we walked out and everybody 537 00:30:41,880 --> 00:30:44,320 Speaker 1: was happy. Not too happy, because you can never be 538 00:30:44,360 --> 00:30:48,960 Speaker 1: too happy, but they were happy enough. I see two things, 539 00:30:49,040 --> 00:30:51,400 Speaker 1: and Buck Saxon back with you now. I see two things, 540 00:30:52,200 --> 00:30:56,360 Speaker 1: uh that I'm immediately jumped to mind with the Trump 541 00:30:56,600 --> 00:30:58,880 Speaker 1: statement there and the meeting and what's happened on this 542 00:30:59,600 --> 00:31:04,040 Speaker 1: Nigo creation with the Democrats. One people who are saying, oh, 543 00:31:04,080 --> 00:31:06,280 Speaker 1: Trump is now a Trump is now a Democrat president. 544 00:31:06,280 --> 00:31:10,479 Speaker 1: Your people, that is being written, it's being said he 545 00:31:10,600 --> 00:31:13,760 Speaker 1: will the the whip lash that some people feel right 546 00:31:13,760 --> 00:31:16,480 Speaker 1: now with him saying nice things about Nancy Pelosi and 547 00:31:16,680 --> 00:31:19,080 Speaker 1: Chuck Schumer, I mean, give it a week, give it 548 00:31:19,120 --> 00:31:23,520 Speaker 1: a month, certainly the next time around with the debt ceiling. 549 00:31:24,080 --> 00:31:26,400 Speaker 1: Whatever he said. Now, one thing we know about Trump, 550 00:31:26,440 --> 00:31:30,000 Speaker 1: when he goes rogue, he goes rogue big lely. And 551 00:31:30,920 --> 00:31:33,600 Speaker 1: whatever he says now about this, it's not gonna matter 552 00:31:33,680 --> 00:31:35,880 Speaker 1: for what Trump decides to do down the line. Now, 553 00:31:35,920 --> 00:31:38,080 Speaker 1: you either like this about Trump or where you don't. 554 00:31:38,160 --> 00:31:41,720 Speaker 1: The polling reflects that. I'm not somebody who likes to 555 00:31:41,720 --> 00:31:45,760 Speaker 1: spend too much time parsing polls. But you you know 556 00:31:45,840 --> 00:31:50,440 Speaker 1: this instinctively. So when a poll reflects what you already 557 00:31:50,520 --> 00:31:54,840 Speaker 1: can just tell, I think, then it's it's reinforcing your 558 00:31:54,880 --> 00:31:58,320 Speaker 1: common sense. And a huge percentage I forget, it's like 559 00:31:58,600 --> 00:32:02,320 Speaker 1: over ninety I think, I mean huge percentage of people 560 00:32:02,360 --> 00:32:06,160 Speaker 1: who voted for Trump in the primary like what he's 561 00:32:06,200 --> 00:32:08,400 Speaker 1: doing and uh and and like the way that he's 562 00:32:08,440 --> 00:32:12,120 Speaker 1: handling this whole situation. And a much smaller percentage of 563 00:32:13,960 --> 00:32:18,320 Speaker 1: Republicans overall, but still a majority of them support how 564 00:32:18,360 --> 00:32:22,440 Speaker 1: this has all been going. So you know, I think, yes, 565 00:32:22,480 --> 00:32:25,600 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, it's not two Republican parties. Trump's job approval 566 00:32:26,360 --> 00:32:30,320 Speaker 1: is this is in the Wall Street Journal among Trump 567 00:32:30,320 --> 00:32:36,720 Speaker 1: primary voters, six among other Republicans. So if you voted 568 00:32:36,760 --> 00:32:38,760 Speaker 1: for Trump, you're you're with him on this all the way. 569 00:32:38,840 --> 00:32:42,840 Speaker 1: And I suppose the mentality at some level is that 570 00:32:43,720 --> 00:32:45,920 Speaker 1: you just want to see it through what. We know 571 00:32:45,960 --> 00:32:48,080 Speaker 1: what the we know what the alternative is, right. We 572 00:32:48,080 --> 00:32:52,200 Speaker 1: we've seen the McConnell Ryan Republican Party in action for 573 00:32:52,280 --> 00:32:56,960 Speaker 1: quite some time. First there's its inability to win a 574 00:32:57,040 --> 00:33:00,960 Speaker 1: presidential election at least up against um back Obama for 575 00:33:02,160 --> 00:33:06,520 Speaker 1: two election cycles. But then there's also the broken promises. 576 00:33:06,600 --> 00:33:10,520 Speaker 1: Then there's also Obamacare repeal that just didn't happen. That's 577 00:33:10,560 --> 00:33:16,240 Speaker 1: not on Trump, that's on the slick smooth talking inside 578 00:33:16,280 --> 00:33:18,560 Speaker 1: the belt Way. We know what's up, we know the 579 00:33:18,600 --> 00:33:22,720 Speaker 1: parliamentary procedures. Go OP folks, they're the ones who didn't 580 00:33:22,720 --> 00:33:25,440 Speaker 1: do that. So I think a lot of Trump supporters 581 00:33:25,480 --> 00:33:29,320 Speaker 1: see this situation they say to themselves, let's see if 582 00:33:29,360 --> 00:33:31,080 Speaker 1: Trump can make something else. Let' let's see if he 583 00:33:31,120 --> 00:33:34,120 Speaker 1: can make this happen. We know what the we know 584 00:33:34,240 --> 00:33:39,240 Speaker 1: what the establishment within the GOP wants to do, and 585 00:33:39,400 --> 00:33:41,200 Speaker 1: we can always go back to that that will always 586 00:33:41,240 --> 00:33:49,040 Speaker 1: be there. But if we want dramatic, dramatic shift in momentum, 587 00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:51,240 Speaker 1: and if you want any hope at all of getting 588 00:33:51,280 --> 00:33:53,880 Speaker 1: things that the GOP establishment is not in favor of, 589 00:33:54,600 --> 00:33:57,800 Speaker 1: like a change in immigration policy, building a wall. But 590 00:33:58,200 --> 00:34:02,800 Speaker 1: right now wall building does I'm I'm not I'm not 591 00:34:02,960 --> 00:34:06,000 Speaker 1: bullish on the building of the wall. And you could 592 00:34:06,040 --> 00:34:09,040 Speaker 1: say that I'm I am concerned that this is just 593 00:34:09,200 --> 00:34:12,279 Speaker 1: going to get dragged out until it no longer gets discussed, 594 00:34:13,040 --> 00:34:16,399 Speaker 1: that it will be delay and delay and defer, and 595 00:34:16,440 --> 00:34:21,360 Speaker 1: then yeah, we got other issues which would be what 596 00:34:21,440 --> 00:34:24,759 Speaker 1: should be unfortunate because it it is not just about 597 00:34:24,800 --> 00:34:28,680 Speaker 1: border security. It is also about the symbolism of sovereignty 598 00:34:28,840 --> 00:34:32,960 Speaker 1: and the restoration of that sovereignty to this country. And 599 00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:35,840 Speaker 1: so I think the wall, which is already partially in place, 600 00:34:35,880 --> 00:34:38,880 Speaker 1: and the long dark night of fascism has not descended, 601 00:34:38,880 --> 00:34:43,080 Speaker 1: despite the seven hundred miles of fencing and whatever else 602 00:34:43,120 --> 00:34:47,040 Speaker 1: we've got down there on the border. So it's not 603 00:34:47,080 --> 00:34:48,879 Speaker 1: going to be the end of days if the wall 604 00:34:48,920 --> 00:34:50,480 Speaker 1: did get built, but I'm worried that it will not 605 00:34:50,560 --> 00:34:53,520 Speaker 1: in fact happen. One one other point, after Trump said 606 00:34:53,600 --> 00:34:56,800 Speaker 1: he got this negotiation done. There's the political side of 607 00:34:56,800 --> 00:34:59,440 Speaker 1: and then there's the we should all be concerned. We 608 00:34:59,440 --> 00:35:02,480 Speaker 1: should all be concerned about the debt, and right now 609 00:35:02,520 --> 00:35:06,960 Speaker 1: it's just not a matter of political attention. It's not 610 00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:12,759 Speaker 1: a matter that gets either base particularly energized. It's a 611 00:35:12,800 --> 00:35:18,319 Speaker 1: really big problem, though, And you had h Representative Mark 612 00:35:18,360 --> 00:35:22,160 Speaker 1: Meadows of the Freedom Caucus making that point. Play clip five. 613 00:35:22,200 --> 00:35:26,200 Speaker 1: Please the cliff that it sets up in December, right 614 00:35:26,239 --> 00:35:30,560 Speaker 1: before Christmas is certainly not good. We're people blindsided. Yes, 615 00:35:30,800 --> 00:35:34,480 Speaker 1: was I surprised, without a doubt there was not a 616 00:35:34,480 --> 00:35:37,440 Speaker 1: conservative solution out there, you know, and so is so 617 00:35:37,680 --> 00:35:41,239 Speaker 1: people want to criticize the Trump administration for making this call. 618 00:35:41,719 --> 00:35:44,120 Speaker 1: We were talking about a clean debt ceiling, you know, 619 00:35:44,280 --> 00:35:46,720 Speaker 1: months ago. But it does show and you you always 620 00:35:46,719 --> 00:35:48,759 Speaker 1: look for a silver lining, and that's one of the 621 00:35:48,800 --> 00:35:51,600 Speaker 1: things that I'm looking for is in this particular thing, 622 00:35:51,680 --> 00:35:57,440 Speaker 1: it shows that the president is myopically focused on tax reform. 623 00:35:57,640 --> 00:36:01,120 Speaker 1: Myopically focused on tax reform. Paul Ryan backed him up 624 00:36:01,120 --> 00:36:03,959 Speaker 1: on that. I should know. Play clip two. Our tax 625 00:36:03,960 --> 00:36:06,920 Speaker 1: writing committees are in the midst of working on the details. 626 00:36:06,960 --> 00:36:10,040 Speaker 1: This is our number one priority this fall. We want 627 00:36:10,040 --> 00:36:12,560 Speaker 1: Americans to begin the new year with a new tax system. 628 00:36:12,600 --> 00:36:15,839 Speaker 1: It is high time. We haven't done since and the 629 00:36:15,840 --> 00:36:18,160 Speaker 1: rest of the world has past our country on and 630 00:36:18,160 --> 00:36:19,879 Speaker 1: it's time we get back in the game of being 631 00:36:19,920 --> 00:36:22,920 Speaker 1: competitive and we will get faster economic growth when we 632 00:36:22,960 --> 00:36:27,720 Speaker 1: do this. Okay, they've set up, they've set up the standard. 633 00:36:27,719 --> 00:36:32,439 Speaker 1: Now they have put the goal posts in place. This fall. 634 00:36:32,560 --> 00:36:35,880 Speaker 1: Number one priority is tax reform. They couldn't couldn't do 635 00:36:35,920 --> 00:36:38,040 Speaker 1: anything on Obamacare. And we'll get to DACA, by the way, 636 00:36:38,040 --> 00:36:39,920 Speaker 1: at the top of the coming up. And then also 637 00:36:40,600 --> 00:36:42,840 Speaker 1: TYL nine that will be in the next hour, and 638 00:36:42,880 --> 00:36:46,120 Speaker 1: we have Tommy Laren joining Tommy larn of Fox News 639 00:36:46,160 --> 00:36:48,640 Speaker 1: joining us to give her take on all these issues 640 00:36:48,680 --> 00:36:50,480 Speaker 1: as well as I might have to ask for her 641 00:36:50,480 --> 00:36:54,520 Speaker 1: thoughts on the Hillary book tour, which even has some 642 00:36:54,600 --> 00:36:58,960 Speaker 1: Democrats saying, oh gosh, no, please, no Hill. They're just 643 00:36:58,960 --> 00:37:02,080 Speaker 1: gonna show up in front of throngs of people in 644 00:37:02,160 --> 00:37:04,759 Speaker 1: the in the low dozens across the country so she 645 00:37:04,800 --> 00:37:08,520 Speaker 1: can say what happened and they get to just listen 646 00:37:08,600 --> 00:37:11,920 Speaker 1: to her throw other people under the bus and make 647 00:37:12,040 --> 00:37:15,400 Speaker 1: excuses and say it was sexism. It's like, you know what, 648 00:37:15,480 --> 00:37:19,359 Speaker 1: Hillary maybe it wasn't just sexism. Maybe it wasn't just 649 00:37:19,440 --> 00:37:24,839 Speaker 1: the Bernie Bros. Maybe just maybe there were some other 650 00:37:24,920 --> 00:37:28,239 Speaker 1: aspects of of you as a candidate. Some I mean, 651 00:37:28,280 --> 00:37:31,359 Speaker 1: I can't put my finger on it, but but just uh, 652 00:37:31,680 --> 00:37:36,920 Speaker 1: you could say, maybe charismatically challenge maybe having the warmth 653 00:37:37,000 --> 00:37:40,080 Speaker 1: and personal magnetism of a Siberian prison guard from the 654 00:37:40,160 --> 00:37:43,960 Speaker 1: nineteen twenties. You know that didn't help. Welcome back to 655 00:37:43,960 --> 00:37:47,719 Speaker 1: the Feerhout everybody. We have Tommy Laren on the line now. 656 00:37:47,760 --> 00:37:53,080 Speaker 1: She's a conservative political commentator and Fox News contributor, One 657 00:37:53,120 --> 00:37:56,480 Speaker 1: and only Tommy Laren. Great to have you, Tommy, always 658 00:37:56,520 --> 00:37:59,240 Speaker 1: great to talk to you about. It's been a while. Indeed, 659 00:37:59,800 --> 00:38:03,400 Speaker 1: can grats on Fox News. It's official now everybody knows 660 00:38:03,520 --> 00:38:07,120 Speaker 1: very exciting stuff. You know. I haven't been able to 661 00:38:07,160 --> 00:38:09,279 Speaker 1: tell anybody what I have in the work, So it's 662 00:38:09,360 --> 00:38:12,120 Speaker 1: nice to finally tell people that I'm employed, because, you know, 663 00:38:12,200 --> 00:38:15,120 Speaker 1: the trolls that's been the running joke all summer is 664 00:38:15,160 --> 00:38:18,480 Speaker 1: that I'm like a jobless loser. So it feels good, Buck, 665 00:38:18,520 --> 00:38:22,320 Speaker 1: it feels good. I can I can imagine. Tommy so 666 00:38:23,280 --> 00:38:26,320 Speaker 1: explained to me, if you would your take on Trump's 667 00:38:26,320 --> 00:38:30,560 Speaker 1: take on a meeting with Schumer and Pelosi that ends 668 00:38:30,640 --> 00:38:32,640 Speaker 1: up in a deal before before I get your take though, 669 00:38:32,680 --> 00:38:35,200 Speaker 1: here's what Pelosi said about a play clip nine. It 670 00:38:35,280 --> 00:38:41,560 Speaker 1: was a very long, intense conversation. Now I'm an appropriator, 671 00:38:41,680 --> 00:38:44,960 Speaker 1: so I've had a little bit of an advantage in 672 00:38:45,000 --> 00:38:49,040 Speaker 1: my view. It was a long meeting, and I was 673 00:38:49,160 --> 00:38:53,120 Speaker 1: very proud of the Senate Minority and Senate Democratical Leader 674 00:38:53,560 --> 00:38:57,719 Speaker 1: Chuck Schumer. He could speak New York to the president. Uh, 675 00:38:57,880 --> 00:39:00,879 Speaker 1: he could speak New York to President Trump. They got 676 00:39:00,880 --> 00:39:04,319 Speaker 1: a deal. Tommy. People are saying, what the heck is 677 00:39:04,360 --> 00:39:08,239 Speaker 1: going on here? You know, I still don't know how 678 00:39:08,239 --> 00:39:10,880 Speaker 1: I feel about this entirely just yet. It's going to 679 00:39:11,000 --> 00:39:12,960 Speaker 1: take me a little while to process it because, you know, 680 00:39:13,000 --> 00:39:14,719 Speaker 1: and I've said this so many times, I'm not just 681 00:39:14,840 --> 00:39:17,239 Speaker 1: somebody who gives Trump a path on everything. If he 682 00:39:17,280 --> 00:39:19,279 Speaker 1: does something I don't like, I'll call him out on it. 683 00:39:19,719 --> 00:39:21,799 Speaker 1: And I'm still not sure how I feel about this. 684 00:39:21,880 --> 00:39:24,520 Speaker 1: But can we just talk about Nancy and how she 685 00:39:24,640 --> 00:39:27,919 Speaker 1: doesn't seem to be all there? I mean, what's going 686 00:39:28,000 --> 00:39:30,440 Speaker 1: on there? This is a representative of the people, and 687 00:39:30,480 --> 00:39:34,160 Speaker 1: she can barely string a sentence together. She she is 688 00:39:34,239 --> 00:39:37,960 Speaker 1: a master legislator, as I think she was described herself. 689 00:39:38,000 --> 00:39:40,440 Speaker 1: So so there is that she's got that going for her, 690 00:39:40,840 --> 00:39:42,840 Speaker 1: which is nice. Well, what did you think of the 691 00:39:43,040 --> 00:39:44,880 Speaker 1: of the I haven't had your your take on the 692 00:39:44,960 --> 00:39:46,680 Speaker 1: because we haven't talked a little while on the DOCCA 693 00:39:46,800 --> 00:39:50,839 Speaker 1: decision either, so Trumperson says six months or else I'll 694 00:39:50,880 --> 00:39:55,399 Speaker 1: revisit you nay, somewhere in between. What do you think. Well, 695 00:39:55,440 --> 00:39:57,400 Speaker 1: you know, I'm one of those people that believes in 696 00:39:57,400 --> 00:39:59,799 Speaker 1: this radical notion that if people want to come into 697 00:39:59,800 --> 00:40:03,040 Speaker 1: this country, they have to follow the laws of this country. 698 00:40:03,400 --> 00:40:06,399 Speaker 1: And of course I'm hearing the left and they're they're 699 00:40:06,440 --> 00:40:09,040 Speaker 1: clamoring to jump all over this one with the emotional please, 700 00:40:09,080 --> 00:40:10,560 Speaker 1: But what I would like to see them do is 701 00:40:10,600 --> 00:40:13,000 Speaker 1: talk to legal immigrants that have had to wait, that 702 00:40:13,040 --> 00:40:15,319 Speaker 1: have had to pay, parents that wanted their kids to 703 00:40:15,360 --> 00:40:17,120 Speaker 1: be able to grow up here and live here, so 704 00:40:17,120 --> 00:40:19,359 Speaker 1: they went to the legal process. But all we hear 705 00:40:19,360 --> 00:40:21,279 Speaker 1: from the left is how it's so unfair, it's so 706 00:40:21,360 --> 00:40:24,160 Speaker 1: unfair that people that broke the law, their parents broke 707 00:40:24,200 --> 00:40:26,200 Speaker 1: the law, that they shouldn't be able to reap the 708 00:40:26,200 --> 00:40:28,160 Speaker 1: benefits of the greatest nation on the face of the earth. 709 00:40:28,280 --> 00:40:31,920 Speaker 1: Gives me a break, buck, Why don't we reward and 710 00:40:31,960 --> 00:40:35,520 Speaker 1: give perks to be illegal immigrants and illegal activity? Enough 711 00:40:35,600 --> 00:40:38,120 Speaker 1: is enough? What do you make of some of the 712 00:40:38,160 --> 00:40:42,879 Speaker 1: reporting of that that Trump is is very favorably disposed 713 00:40:42,960 --> 00:40:47,320 Speaker 1: towards doing something to or rather would be favorably disposed 714 00:40:47,360 --> 00:40:51,560 Speaker 1: towards Congress doing something about the dreamers. My I think 715 00:40:51,560 --> 00:40:53,480 Speaker 1: he already tweeted out that no one or or it's 716 00:40:53,480 --> 00:40:56,000 Speaker 1: an official statement has gone out that for the six 717 00:40:56,040 --> 00:40:58,919 Speaker 1: months there will be no enforcement action based on the 718 00:40:59,000 --> 00:41:02,200 Speaker 1: information that dreamers gave to the government, right, because that 719 00:41:02,239 --> 00:41:03,640 Speaker 1: was one of the big talking points for the first 720 00:41:03,640 --> 00:41:06,239 Speaker 1: twenty four hours, is all they trusted the government and 721 00:41:06,280 --> 00:41:08,560 Speaker 1: now that's coming back to haunt them. He's saying, look, 722 00:41:08,600 --> 00:41:11,440 Speaker 1: that's not gonna happen. But I mean, Tommy, look, let 723 00:41:11,440 --> 00:41:13,120 Speaker 1: me let me just ask you this way, how do 724 00:41:13,160 --> 00:41:16,759 Speaker 1: you feel about this if six months comes, you know, 725 00:41:17,160 --> 00:41:20,680 Speaker 1: within the six month window, the Republican Congress passes some 726 00:41:21,080 --> 00:41:25,960 Speaker 1: pathway only for DOCCA covered individuals, but puts together some 727 00:41:26,000 --> 00:41:28,720 Speaker 1: pathway that is in fact an amnesty, and Trump signs 728 00:41:28,760 --> 00:41:30,680 Speaker 1: it is are you going to be upset if he 729 00:41:30,760 --> 00:41:32,880 Speaker 1: does that, I'm going to be out the side of 730 00:41:32,920 --> 00:41:35,520 Speaker 1: it doesn't come with border enforcement. So that's where this 731 00:41:35,640 --> 00:41:38,080 Speaker 1: all has to start. I mean, I think that we're logical. 732 00:41:38,120 --> 00:41:39,960 Speaker 1: Even though that we're conservatives, and to me I'm an 733 00:41:39,960 --> 00:41:43,120 Speaker 1: immigration hardliner, I'm also a logical person. I understand that 734 00:41:43,160 --> 00:41:45,600 Speaker 1: we can't deport not even just dreamers, and we can't 735 00:41:45,600 --> 00:41:49,080 Speaker 1: support support the eleven to probably twenty million illegal immigrants 736 00:41:49,120 --> 00:41:50,840 Speaker 1: we have living in this country. We can't just support 737 00:41:50,880 --> 00:41:53,160 Speaker 1: all of them. I don't believe we can do that. However, 738 00:41:53,680 --> 00:41:55,839 Speaker 1: if there's gonna be some kind of pathway to some 739 00:41:55,920 --> 00:41:58,719 Speaker 1: kind of an amnesty or pseudo amnesty, there has to 740 00:41:58,760 --> 00:42:01,520 Speaker 1: be border enforcement. Per silly, I like the wall. Give 741 00:42:01,600 --> 00:42:04,839 Speaker 1: us the wall, give us tough border enforcement, and we'll 742 00:42:04,840 --> 00:42:07,560 Speaker 1: give you your dreamers. I'm okay with that, but let's 743 00:42:07,600 --> 00:42:10,120 Speaker 1: get to work on some kind of worder enforcement. First. 744 00:42:10,560 --> 00:42:14,759 Speaker 1: We're speaking to Tommy Laren, conservative political commentator, Fox News contributor, 745 00:42:15,280 --> 00:42:19,080 Speaker 1: and uh person with with a Facebook following the size 746 00:42:19,160 --> 00:42:21,920 Speaker 1: of of of a lot of small countries. Uh. Tommy, 747 00:42:22,280 --> 00:42:24,920 Speaker 1: let me ask you, what's what's your take on the 748 00:42:25,000 --> 00:42:28,120 Speaker 1: Hillary tour? She is I mean, the jokes on this 749 00:42:28,239 --> 00:42:30,600 Speaker 1: of course, I'm like the three thousand person to make 750 00:42:30,600 --> 00:42:32,960 Speaker 1: the joke about how she's finally going to Wisconsin, but 751 00:42:33,080 --> 00:42:35,440 Speaker 1: Hillary is in fact going all over the country to 752 00:42:35,480 --> 00:42:39,840 Speaker 1: talk about her book. Um, is this is this good 753 00:42:39,880 --> 00:42:42,160 Speaker 1: for the Democrat brand? Do you think this is just 754 00:42:42,280 --> 00:42:45,480 Speaker 1: Hillary being Hillary? Or do you think that somehow this 755 00:42:45,600 --> 00:42:48,400 Speaker 1: is part of the narrative that they need to regroup 756 00:42:48,480 --> 00:42:51,200 Speaker 1: and mount a challenge against Trump the next time around. 757 00:42:52,680 --> 00:42:55,440 Speaker 1: I gotta tell you, she's obviously bad for the Democrats. 758 00:42:55,480 --> 00:42:57,200 Speaker 1: I think that they were even late night hosts now 759 00:42:57,239 --> 00:43:00,200 Speaker 1: and other Democrats that are saying Hillary, please stop up, 760 00:43:00,239 --> 00:43:02,920 Speaker 1: for the love of God, please stop. But for me personally, 761 00:43:03,280 --> 00:43:05,160 Speaker 1: I wish that she would stop. I wish she would 762 00:43:05,200 --> 00:43:09,560 Speaker 1: stop wounding the Democratic Party because I like a challenge. 763 00:43:09,640 --> 00:43:11,400 Speaker 1: I don't want to just make it easy. And the 764 00:43:11,440 --> 00:43:13,040 Speaker 1: more that they put her at the forefront, that just 765 00:43:13,120 --> 00:43:15,600 Speaker 1: becomes so much easier for a re election. And I want, 766 00:43:15,920 --> 00:43:17,840 Speaker 1: you know, I want some fireworks. I want to challenge. 767 00:43:18,080 --> 00:43:20,280 Speaker 1: But let's be honest. She likes to be in the spotlight. 768 00:43:20,320 --> 00:43:22,879 Speaker 1: She wants to go talk about her book. I don't 769 00:43:22,920 --> 00:43:25,160 Speaker 1: know if she thinks she's going to run again. She 770 00:43:25,200 --> 00:43:28,200 Speaker 1: couldn't be that crazy. She couldn't be that unstable, could 771 00:43:28,200 --> 00:43:31,279 Speaker 1: she buck? Oh? I don't think she could run again. 772 00:43:31,280 --> 00:43:36,040 Speaker 1: But I do think she hasn't yet accepted that Obama 773 00:43:36,239 --> 00:43:40,080 Speaker 1: is the kingmaker in the Democrat Party. Among Democrats now, 774 00:43:40,160 --> 00:43:42,839 Speaker 1: it's never going to be Hillary again. I don't think 775 00:43:42,880 --> 00:43:44,680 Speaker 1: she's really even you know, it was one thing to 776 00:43:44,760 --> 00:43:47,919 Speaker 1: lose the election. I think she also hasn't yet come 777 00:43:47,960 --> 00:43:50,880 Speaker 1: to the realization that she is no that the Clinton 778 00:43:51,480 --> 00:43:54,560 Speaker 1: dynasty is no longer a dynasty, even when it comes 779 00:43:54,600 --> 00:43:58,880 Speaker 1: to just the public relations and messaging side of all this. 780 00:44:00,440 --> 00:44:02,680 Speaker 1: I mean, I think Hillary Clinton is like the my 781 00:44:02,880 --> 00:44:06,400 Speaker 1: space of politics. It's just no one really uses it anymore, 782 00:44:06,600 --> 00:44:09,160 Speaker 1: is outdated, and it just probably needs to go away. 783 00:44:09,719 --> 00:44:12,759 Speaker 1: And uh, that's how I feel about Hillary. But I 784 00:44:12,800 --> 00:44:15,520 Speaker 1: think that the Democrats would be smart to rein her 785 00:44:15,520 --> 00:44:17,719 Speaker 1: in and say, you know, enough is enough. You need 786 00:44:17,800 --> 00:44:20,240 Speaker 1: to give this up. It's getting pathetic at this point. 787 00:44:21,040 --> 00:44:22,880 Speaker 1: We need to just call it quits and you just 788 00:44:22,920 --> 00:44:25,200 Speaker 1: need to go and spend some time with Chelsea and 789 00:44:25,920 --> 00:44:27,799 Speaker 1: you know, and enjoy your life and just get out. 790 00:44:28,160 --> 00:44:31,439 Speaker 1: She can rock out. She can be Grandma Grandma leather 791 00:44:31,520 --> 00:44:34,320 Speaker 1: Jacket Hillary, you know, and rock out all over the country. 792 00:44:34,320 --> 00:44:35,560 Speaker 1: I don't know if you saw that she did the 793 00:44:35,560 --> 00:44:38,520 Speaker 1: whole leather jacket speech and she came back. But before 794 00:44:38,560 --> 00:44:41,520 Speaker 1: we let you go, Tommy, you were an early, an 795 00:44:41,520 --> 00:44:44,640 Speaker 1: early Trump supporter, and and you were also a Trump 796 00:44:44,719 --> 00:44:47,799 Speaker 1: supporter when we were both at the Blaze together, and 797 00:44:47,920 --> 00:44:50,920 Speaker 1: I was you were in the straight up supporting Trumps side. 798 00:44:51,000 --> 00:44:53,480 Speaker 1: Once things got a little further along in the primary, 799 00:44:53,760 --> 00:44:56,200 Speaker 1: I was like, I support Trump if he's the nominee 800 00:44:56,160 --> 00:44:59,520 Speaker 1: one hundred percent without reservation. So I was just, uh, 801 00:44:59,600 --> 00:45:01,440 Speaker 1: And we were the only ones as far as I knew, 802 00:45:01,560 --> 00:45:03,680 Speaker 1: not to misspeak, but we're the only ones that I 803 00:45:03,680 --> 00:45:08,160 Speaker 1: can recall that we're willing to end or fully supportive 804 00:45:08,280 --> 00:45:12,000 Speaker 1: of Trump at that stage. How are you feeling about 805 00:45:12,280 --> 00:45:17,239 Speaker 1: how he's done up to this point. I'm happy with it, 806 00:45:17,239 --> 00:45:19,440 Speaker 1: but I will say this Congress has to play ball. 807 00:45:19,480 --> 00:45:21,600 Speaker 1: It's not all on President Trump. And I think that 808 00:45:21,600 --> 00:45:23,680 Speaker 1: there are many right now. Let's be on if there 809 00:45:23,680 --> 00:45:25,680 Speaker 1: are some some Republicans right now that have turned to 810 00:45:25,760 --> 00:45:28,799 Speaker 1: Democrats to Democrats and just turned turned looney, and so 811 00:45:28,840 --> 00:45:30,640 Speaker 1: we need to remind them that day. A lot of them, 812 00:45:30,680 --> 00:45:32,879 Speaker 1: a lot of the Republicans that we elected, they wrote 813 00:45:32,920 --> 00:45:35,120 Speaker 1: in on the coattails of Donald Trump, and now they're 814 00:45:35,160 --> 00:45:37,640 Speaker 1: doing everything they can try to obstruct Donald Trump. I 815 00:45:37,719 --> 00:45:39,680 Speaker 1: think on a bitterness. I think that they don't like 816 00:45:39,800 --> 00:45:41,439 Speaker 1: the fact that he is the you know, the leader 817 00:45:41,480 --> 00:45:43,680 Speaker 1: of the Republican Party, and they're still bitter about that. 818 00:45:43,840 --> 00:45:46,160 Speaker 1: I think John McCain is certainly one of them that 819 00:45:46,200 --> 00:45:48,680 Speaker 1: I can name, and that it's a quite obvious example. 820 00:45:49,160 --> 00:45:52,160 Speaker 1: But I'm happy with the steps that President Trump is taking. 821 00:45:52,200 --> 00:45:55,319 Speaker 1: I'm happy with what he's doing with the tools and 822 00:45:55,360 --> 00:45:57,239 Speaker 1: resources he has available to him. But you know what 823 00:45:57,280 --> 00:45:59,600 Speaker 1: I gotta tell you, immigration, Immigration is a big one 824 00:45:59,640 --> 00:46:01,800 Speaker 1: to me as well as a lot of other Trump supporters. 825 00:46:01,840 --> 00:46:05,640 Speaker 1: He cannot sail on this. Tommy Larry and everybody a Fox. 826 00:46:05,640 --> 00:46:07,080 Speaker 1: It was Tommy, You're gonna be joining one of my 827 00:46:07,120 --> 00:46:10,840 Speaker 1: all time favorite Shawan Hannity in the next few days. Well. Absolutely, 828 00:46:10,840 --> 00:46:12,680 Speaker 1: Sean is one of my one of my good friends, 829 00:46:12,680 --> 00:46:14,720 Speaker 1: and I'm lucky to be able to share the screen 830 00:46:14,800 --> 00:46:18,239 Speaker 1: with him frequently these days. So more to come more, 831 00:46:18,360 --> 00:46:20,120 Speaker 1: all right, So in the days ahead, look for Tommy 832 00:46:20,160 --> 00:46:22,320 Speaker 1: on Sewn Sean Show, and and and all the shows 833 00:46:22,360 --> 00:46:24,880 Speaker 1: over at Fox. Tommy Larry and everybody. Tommy, thanks so much. 834 00:46:24,880 --> 00:46:27,239 Speaker 1: We'll talk to you soon, all right, thanks so much. 835 00:46:27,239 --> 00:46:31,839 Speaker 1: Fun phone lines are open. 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And so I 846 00:47:01,239 --> 00:47:05,799 Speaker 1: see there is a lot of well manicured facial hair 847 00:47:05,840 --> 00:47:08,920 Speaker 1: on the gentleman, and very very fashionable attire on the 848 00:47:08,920 --> 00:47:11,920 Speaker 1: men and the ladies. And I can tell the politics 849 00:47:11,920 --> 00:47:16,200 Speaker 1: of this place tend towards the tend towards the Marxist. 850 00:47:16,680 --> 00:47:18,960 Speaker 1: But the food was quite tasty, and the coffee was 851 00:47:19,400 --> 00:47:22,279 Speaker 1: pretty good, but it wasn't black Rifle coffee, which is 852 00:47:22,320 --> 00:47:24,360 Speaker 1: what I had this morning. And I can tell you compared, 853 00:47:24,440 --> 00:47:27,920 Speaker 1: and there's just no comparison. Black Rifle coffee is the 854 00:47:27,960 --> 00:47:31,640 Speaker 1: world's premium conservative coffee company. It's owned and operated by 855 00:47:31,680 --> 00:47:35,040 Speaker 1: United States veterans. 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I'm getting them all 865 00:48:04,320 --> 00:48:06,839 Speaker 1: hooked on Black Rifle coffee too. I'm drinking it every day. 866 00:48:06,880 --> 00:48:09,080 Speaker 1: I'm cold brewing it. Now that it's getting cold in 867 00:48:09,120 --> 00:48:11,080 Speaker 1: New York because it's only nice weather for like two 868 00:48:11,160 --> 00:48:12,919 Speaker 1: months a year. I'm in l A. I get bitter 869 00:48:12,960 --> 00:48:15,560 Speaker 1: about it now. I'm gonna start making the hot stuff soon. 870 00:48:15,600 --> 00:48:17,839 Speaker 1: But Black Rifle Coffee dot com, slash buck, that's where 871 00:48:17,880 --> 00:48:19,960 Speaker 1: you want to go. Coupon code buck ten for ten 872 00:48:20,000 --> 00:48:23,200 Speaker 1: per cent off. I've got a little time here for 873 00:48:23,200 --> 00:48:26,600 Speaker 1: at a bit of an extension of a DOCCA discussion. 874 00:48:26,640 --> 00:48:29,680 Speaker 1: But I will I have not forgotten Betsy divocet title 875 00:48:29,760 --> 00:48:34,040 Speaker 1: not and that's important. It's important because of the threat 876 00:48:34,080 --> 00:48:37,360 Speaker 1: to the rule of law that is, uh well, the 877 00:48:37,640 --> 00:48:40,000 Speaker 1: threats to the rule of law that are I think 878 00:48:40,120 --> 00:48:42,759 Speaker 1: growing right now. Especially you look at DOCTA, look at 879 00:48:42,760 --> 00:48:46,520 Speaker 1: immigration law, and we're being told more and more that 880 00:48:46,600 --> 00:48:48,840 Speaker 1: the law isn't the law, which means due process is 881 00:48:48,840 --> 00:48:51,840 Speaker 1: no longer something you will be able to expect either 882 00:48:52,120 --> 00:48:56,680 Speaker 1: the the dictates of politics will overrule whatever is on 883 00:48:56,680 --> 00:48:59,040 Speaker 1: the page in terms of your rights. But I'm getting 884 00:48:59,080 --> 00:49:00,719 Speaker 1: a little bit ahead of my we will get to 885 00:49:00,800 --> 00:49:03,760 Speaker 1: the title nine discussion. Oh and also some breaking news 886 00:49:03,840 --> 00:49:08,040 Speaker 1: that I meant to mention earlier on the show. You 887 00:49:08,160 --> 00:49:13,640 Speaker 1: have a in a hundred and forty three million people 888 00:49:14,560 --> 00:49:18,759 Speaker 1: maybe affected by a cyber attack on Equifax, which is 889 00:49:18,800 --> 00:49:23,240 Speaker 1: one of the big credit monitoring credit reporting agencies, credit 890 00:49:23,280 --> 00:49:28,480 Speaker 1: reporting agencies, and intruders access names, so gosh, all the stuff, 891 00:49:29,080 --> 00:49:31,200 Speaker 1: all the stuff you don't want them to have. Oh my, 892 00:49:31,360 --> 00:49:33,000 Speaker 1: we're gonna get We're gonna have to talk about this. 893 00:49:33,040 --> 00:49:35,520 Speaker 1: I think that will actually be in the next another 894 00:49:35,560 --> 00:49:40,439 Speaker 1: one of these massive hacks. Um this is not good. 895 00:49:40,480 --> 00:49:42,240 Speaker 1: Not good. We'll get there. We'll get the first DOCCA 896 00:49:42,800 --> 00:49:48,040 Speaker 1: Deferred Action for childhood arrivals. As you know, President Trump 897 00:49:48,280 --> 00:49:52,080 Speaker 1: repealed DOCCA, has said though that Congress needs to act, 898 00:49:52,480 --> 00:49:55,600 Speaker 1: as also said, And I was. I was on hl N, 899 00:49:55,719 --> 00:49:58,759 Speaker 1: which is a sister network to CNN. Is it in 900 00:49:58,800 --> 00:50:00,680 Speaker 1: micro aggression to call it us his your network? Or 901 00:50:00,719 --> 00:50:02,200 Speaker 1: is it a brother network? I don't I don't know. 902 00:50:02,239 --> 00:50:04,719 Speaker 1: It could be either, right, I mean, I don't know how. 903 00:50:04,960 --> 00:50:08,800 Speaker 1: I don't know how HLN identifies, but I mean whatever, anyway, 904 00:50:08,840 --> 00:50:13,640 Speaker 1: it's like other network that's let's see gonna um they 905 00:50:13,680 --> 00:50:15,319 Speaker 1: I was on there, and I kept saying because people 906 00:50:15,400 --> 00:50:17,319 Speaker 1: seemed I was on a on a show there with 907 00:50:17,360 --> 00:50:20,560 Speaker 1: the wonderful se Cup who was a show on HLN, 908 00:50:21,040 --> 00:50:23,520 Speaker 1: and some of the guests were very very concerned about all. 909 00:50:23,560 --> 00:50:26,000 Speaker 1: But now they're going to be deporting people who gave 910 00:50:26,040 --> 00:50:28,120 Speaker 1: their information the government. And I was like, I don't, look, 911 00:50:28,160 --> 00:50:30,080 Speaker 1: that's not going to happen because it doesn't make sense 912 00:50:30,120 --> 00:50:35,080 Speaker 1: for the Trump administration from a law enforcement prioritization perspective. 913 00:50:36,760 --> 00:50:38,759 Speaker 1: It doesn't make sense the Trump administration to do that. 914 00:50:38,800 --> 00:50:40,440 Speaker 1: So they're not going to do it. Sure enough, Trump 915 00:50:40,480 --> 00:50:44,800 Speaker 1: comes out and says, no, that will not happen the 916 00:50:45,120 --> 00:50:47,520 Speaker 1: six months, You're not going to have enforcement people, and 917 00:50:47,840 --> 00:50:52,640 Speaker 1: Congress needs Congress needs to act now. Congress acting could 918 00:50:52,640 --> 00:50:56,320 Speaker 1: be that DOCCA is turned into a permanent legal status 919 00:50:56,320 --> 00:51:00,200 Speaker 1: and Congress is allowed to confer status on whom ever 920 00:51:00,239 --> 00:51:04,200 Speaker 1: the Congress desides. Right, So if Congress says, you know what, 921 00:51:04,239 --> 00:51:06,160 Speaker 1: if you were covering under DOCCA, not now you're a 922 00:51:06,160 --> 00:51:08,640 Speaker 1: permanent resident. Now you're a lawful permanent resident. And Trump 923 00:51:08,719 --> 00:51:11,759 Speaker 1: signs it um that is not. That is now the 924 00:51:11,840 --> 00:51:15,080 Speaker 1: law of the lens. So keep that in mind. But 925 00:51:15,200 --> 00:51:18,600 Speaker 1: you had Paul Ryan out there and this I thought 926 00:51:18,600 --> 00:51:21,960 Speaker 1: about this as well when our friend Tommy mentioned border security. 927 00:51:23,120 --> 00:51:28,040 Speaker 1: Yet Paul Ryan out there, who was talking about DOCCA 928 00:51:28,400 --> 00:51:31,200 Speaker 1: and the real problem you see, sees it right now 929 00:51:31,200 --> 00:51:36,200 Speaker 1: play clip for please. DOCCA is a symptom of a problem. 930 00:51:36,280 --> 00:51:38,840 Speaker 1: We don't have control of our borders. And so what 931 00:51:39,000 --> 00:51:40,799 Speaker 1: we deal with this issue, which the President just gave 932 00:51:40,840 --> 00:51:44,000 Speaker 1: Congress time to deal with. I think it's only reasonable 933 00:51:44,120 --> 00:51:46,400 Speaker 1: that we deal with the root cost of the problem, 934 00:51:46,600 --> 00:51:50,480 Speaker 1: open borders, uncontrolled borders. We need to control our borders 935 00:51:50,640 --> 00:51:52,839 Speaker 1: while we deal with this problem. So that we don't 936 00:51:52,880 --> 00:51:55,080 Speaker 1: have the same problem ten years from now. That's just 937 00:51:55,160 --> 00:51:58,520 Speaker 1: perfectly reasonable. And it wasn't too long ago that I 938 00:51:58,560 --> 00:52:00,560 Speaker 1: think a lot of Democrats agreed with we should have 939 00:52:00,640 --> 00:52:04,640 Speaker 1: operational control of our borders. Totally agree with Paul Ryan 940 00:52:04,680 --> 00:52:07,000 Speaker 1: on that we should have operational control of our borders. 941 00:52:07,640 --> 00:52:11,759 Speaker 1: Here's where I get Here's where I get a little um, 942 00:52:11,800 --> 00:52:14,120 Speaker 1: a little kur mudgeon lee on this. Here's where I 943 00:52:14,160 --> 00:52:18,719 Speaker 1: start to get annoyed. Paul Ryan just said that, I 944 00:52:18,719 --> 00:52:22,120 Speaker 1: don't know, yesterday today, you could have played that clip 945 00:52:22,520 --> 00:52:26,000 Speaker 1: from it was today. Thank you, Thank you, ty um 946 00:52:26,160 --> 00:52:29,120 Speaker 1: ty has always got my back, which I appreciate. Uh, 947 00:52:29,760 --> 00:52:31,880 Speaker 1: you could have had Paul Ryan say that a year ago, 948 00:52:31,880 --> 00:52:34,440 Speaker 1: you could have said that ten years ago. This has 949 00:52:34,480 --> 00:52:39,480 Speaker 1: been the Republican mantra for a very long time. But 950 00:52:39,600 --> 00:52:42,520 Speaker 1: every time we look at what the Republicans and I 951 00:52:42,560 --> 00:52:47,160 Speaker 1: mean now, the the in good standing GOP, you know, 952 00:52:47,800 --> 00:52:50,279 Speaker 1: bright letter names that you know, you know that the 953 00:52:50,360 --> 00:52:53,320 Speaker 1: people that you would recognize from within the GOP. Stretching 954 00:52:53,320 --> 00:52:57,279 Speaker 1: back now, for the last two decades, when there's an 955 00:52:57,280 --> 00:53:01,759 Speaker 1: opportunity to do something on immigration, somehow we always end 956 00:53:01,800 --> 00:53:04,440 Speaker 1: up with, well, you know, we need work permits in amnesty. 957 00:53:05,880 --> 00:53:09,040 Speaker 1: I don't know what this was true under Bush, it 958 00:53:09,160 --> 00:53:11,480 Speaker 1: was true with Republicans in the Gang of Eight bill 959 00:53:11,560 --> 00:53:16,839 Speaker 1: under Obama. That's this hard line or not even hard line. 960 00:53:16,840 --> 00:53:19,680 Speaker 1: Forget that's not a termed scrap that strike that from 961 00:53:19,680 --> 00:53:24,040 Speaker 1: the record, counselor this notion that the Republicans really want 962 00:53:24,040 --> 00:53:27,440 Speaker 1: to secure the border feels like an empty talking point 963 00:53:28,280 --> 00:53:35,919 Speaker 1: because that's never the priority. The priorities work permits, drivers, licenses, legalization, 964 00:53:35,960 --> 00:53:39,920 Speaker 1: amnesty pathway. We hear so much more about that, and 965 00:53:40,000 --> 00:53:42,239 Speaker 1: I do think you may see, you know, you may 966 00:53:42,280 --> 00:53:47,880 Speaker 1: see Republicans pass a permanent DOCCA status for people covered 967 00:53:47,920 --> 00:53:50,319 Speaker 1: under the program, which will then beg the question what 968 00:53:50,320 --> 00:53:52,640 Speaker 1: about people that then say that they didn't get into 969 00:53:52,680 --> 00:53:54,920 Speaker 1: the program before, but they should qualify for it too. 970 00:53:55,360 --> 00:53:57,719 Speaker 1: We're gonna say no to them. We're gonna disprove it. 971 00:53:57,920 --> 00:53:59,040 Speaker 1: Now do they get to the front of the lot. 972 00:53:59,080 --> 00:54:04,120 Speaker 1: You know, it just keeps getting worse until you change 973 00:54:04,200 --> 00:54:12,080 Speaker 1: the underlying conditions. Every uh gesture that seems kind, that 974 00:54:12,200 --> 00:54:16,920 Speaker 1: seems to be based in in in mercy and thoughtfulness 975 00:54:16,920 --> 00:54:19,120 Speaker 1: for your fellow human being. And people want to come 976 00:54:19,120 --> 00:54:22,800 Speaker 1: to America, and all the warm, fuzzy, big hug thoughts 977 00:54:22,840 --> 00:54:25,759 Speaker 1: we can have about about illegal immigration, and plenty of 978 00:54:25,840 --> 00:54:28,719 Speaker 1: people have them, plenty of Conservatives I know have them. 979 00:54:28,920 --> 00:54:31,759 Speaker 1: They know they against the people, the individuals, the human 980 00:54:31,800 --> 00:54:34,320 Speaker 1: beings who are illegal. They're just against people breaking the 981 00:54:34,400 --> 00:54:36,920 Speaker 1: law and staying in the country and accessing federal benefits 982 00:54:37,000 --> 00:54:41,160 Speaker 1: and not respecting the rules that we have in place. 983 00:54:41,200 --> 00:54:43,160 Speaker 1: It doesn't mean they think that they're a bad person. 984 00:54:43,480 --> 00:54:46,000 Speaker 1: Even Jeff Sessions said earlier this week, this isn't about 985 00:54:46,040 --> 00:54:50,200 Speaker 1: them being bad people. But I just don't believe the 986 00:54:50,239 --> 00:54:54,520 Speaker 1: Republicans anymore when they say this because they but they 987 00:54:54,560 --> 00:54:56,759 Speaker 1: certainly didn't. And I called this one weeks ago, not 988 00:54:56,840 --> 00:54:59,000 Speaker 1: that it was a hard call to make, right, This 989 00:54:59,200 --> 00:55:02,560 Speaker 1: is like, you know, who's gonna win Mayweather or McGregor. 990 00:55:02,960 --> 00:55:06,160 Speaker 1: Not a hard call. Uh, But I said, they're not 991 00:55:06,200 --> 00:55:08,760 Speaker 1: gonna shot down the government over over funding for the wall. 992 00:55:09,080 --> 00:55:12,080 Speaker 1: And there was some talk about that originally, but nope, 993 00:55:12,719 --> 00:55:17,600 Speaker 1: they abandoned that real fast. And now we're being told that, Okay, 994 00:55:17,640 --> 00:55:22,279 Speaker 1: maybe something will happen with DOCCA, but Republicans in Congress 995 00:55:22,280 --> 00:55:25,600 Speaker 1: will only do that if they get something, if they 996 00:55:25,600 --> 00:55:30,080 Speaker 1: get border security measures. Border security can be turned up, 997 00:55:30,440 --> 00:55:35,200 Speaker 1: can be turned down. Border agents can be hired, they 998 00:55:35,239 --> 00:55:39,359 Speaker 1: can be furloughed or fired. UH enforcement policies can be 999 00:55:39,440 --> 00:55:42,440 Speaker 1: ratcheted up a little bit, or they can be ratcheted down. 1000 00:55:43,760 --> 00:55:48,440 Speaker 1: Amnesty is forever. You know what else is forever? Pretty 1001 00:55:48,480 --> 00:55:54,799 Speaker 1: much a wall. I do think it's interesting that while 1002 00:55:54,840 --> 00:55:56,920 Speaker 1: we talk about the wall, you hear a lot of 1003 00:55:56,960 --> 00:56:00,799 Speaker 1: folks that make the case that it's ineffective. Then you 1004 00:56:00,880 --> 00:56:02,879 Speaker 1: say what about Israel? And then you also point people 1005 00:56:02,880 --> 00:56:05,759 Speaker 1: like me will say what about the wall that the 1006 00:56:05,760 --> 00:56:09,239 Speaker 1: Saudias are building between Saudi Arabia and Yemen on their border? Wall? 1007 00:56:09,760 --> 00:56:11,800 Speaker 1: I mean the DMZ between North and South Korea is 1008 00:56:11,800 --> 00:56:14,160 Speaker 1: a particularly extreme example. That's not just a wall. That's 1009 00:56:14,239 --> 00:56:18,080 Speaker 1: you know, miles of land mines and artillery and all 1010 00:56:18,200 --> 00:56:23,239 Speaker 1: kinds of stuff. But walls tend to work. That's why 1011 00:56:23,239 --> 00:56:25,640 Speaker 1: people put them in place. Walls are pretty old invention, 1012 00:56:25,840 --> 00:56:29,560 Speaker 1: you know, they've been around for quite some time. But 1013 00:56:29,600 --> 00:56:32,320 Speaker 1: a wall is, as I said, it's a physical manifestation. 1014 00:56:32,400 --> 00:56:35,400 Speaker 1: It is also a symbol, but it doesn't go away. 1015 00:56:35,560 --> 00:56:39,840 Speaker 1: The next administration would have a wall in place too, 1016 00:56:40,600 --> 00:56:43,120 Speaker 1: So this is why I think it's you have to 1017 00:56:43,160 --> 00:56:45,440 Speaker 1: be very You have to be very careful as you 1018 00:56:45,440 --> 00:56:48,560 Speaker 1: look at what the Republicans are doing. They're gonna make 1019 00:56:48,640 --> 00:56:51,560 Speaker 1: promises that they don't intend to keep. The only promise 1020 00:56:51,600 --> 00:56:54,439 Speaker 1: that I know that they can keep, because once they 1021 00:56:54,480 --> 00:56:58,640 Speaker 1: do it, it's done. Is permanent legal status is amnesty. 1022 00:56:59,320 --> 00:57:03,200 Speaker 1: And Paul in just you can go back and you know, 1023 00:57:03,680 --> 00:57:07,640 Speaker 1: I can call the tape. Paul Ryan is a pro 1024 00:57:07,760 --> 00:57:12,040 Speaker 1: amnesty guy. How much time do I have tie? Oh, okay, 1025 00:57:12,080 --> 00:57:13,680 Speaker 1: I pot I I thought we were about to run 1026 00:57:13,719 --> 00:57:15,719 Speaker 1: into a break. I got one more time. Yeah, Paul 1027 00:57:15,800 --> 00:57:19,000 Speaker 1: Ryan is a is an amnesty guy. He really is. 1028 00:57:19,200 --> 00:57:24,440 Speaker 1: And he's one of these quasi Cato institute open borders. 1029 00:57:24,480 --> 00:57:28,280 Speaker 1: Economic activity is good for everybody. I mean, he's pretty 1030 00:57:28,400 --> 00:57:30,880 Speaker 1: much like I wouldn't be surprised if you saw him 1031 00:57:30,920 --> 00:57:33,800 Speaker 1: with illegals do the jobs Americans won't do on a 1032 00:57:33,840 --> 00:57:36,680 Speaker 1: on a bumper sticker on the back of his Prius. Yeah, 1033 00:57:36,680 --> 00:57:40,080 Speaker 1: that's right. I'm guessing that Ryan drives a Prius. It's cold, 1034 00:57:40,680 --> 00:57:43,440 Speaker 1: that's cold, But you know, I think, by the way, 1035 00:57:43,440 --> 00:57:45,840 Speaker 1: a lot of Prius is out here in California. I 1036 00:57:45,880 --> 00:57:47,240 Speaker 1: kind of want to tell some of the folks in 1037 00:57:47,400 --> 00:57:50,640 Speaker 1: l A, you know, oil prices are really low, and 1038 00:57:50,800 --> 00:57:53,720 Speaker 1: they're just gonna go low lower. Fracking in this country 1039 00:57:53,880 --> 00:57:56,560 Speaker 1: is a really big deal. Wait till all the rest 1040 00:57:56,560 --> 00:57:58,840 Speaker 1: of the major oil producers and countries all of the 1041 00:57:58,880 --> 00:58:02,440 Speaker 1: world start fracking too, Buck Sexton. Back here in the 1042 00:58:02,440 --> 00:58:05,800 Speaker 1: Freedom Hunt West Coast office out here in Los Angeles 1043 00:58:05,840 --> 00:58:09,960 Speaker 1: for a few days. Lovely, lovely place, great food, weird politics, 1044 00:58:10,040 --> 00:58:14,880 Speaker 1: but lovely place. Um, before we get to the massive 1045 00:58:15,120 --> 00:58:19,200 Speaker 1: hack of Equifax and what that could mean, which a 1046 00:58:19,280 --> 00:58:21,400 Speaker 1: hundred forty three million. When you hear a hundred and 1047 00:58:21,400 --> 00:58:24,440 Speaker 1: forty three million Americans may have had really sensitive data exposed, 1048 00:58:24,520 --> 00:58:27,080 Speaker 1: that's not something I think you can just say somebody 1049 00:58:27,080 --> 00:58:30,920 Speaker 1: else's problem. Nah, that could that could be your problem too, 1050 00:58:30,960 --> 00:58:34,520 Speaker 1: could be my problem. So we'll we'll get to that 1051 00:58:34,640 --> 00:58:36,840 Speaker 1: in just a moment. But first we have Phil in 1052 00:58:36,840 --> 00:58:39,200 Speaker 1: New Hampshire on the line. Phil, what's going on, my friend? 1053 00:58:39,240 --> 00:58:42,640 Speaker 1: Welcome to the Freedom Hunt. Oh not much. Fuck, hope 1054 00:58:42,680 --> 00:58:44,960 Speaker 1: you're all right out there with all the fires and everything. 1055 00:58:45,840 --> 00:58:48,640 Speaker 1: I'm fine, sir, Thank you. What's on your mind? Excellent? 1056 00:58:48,680 --> 00:58:50,920 Speaker 1: Oh not much. I was. I thought about you and 1057 00:58:50,960 --> 00:58:53,360 Speaker 1: your sense of humor, uh the other day because I 1058 00:58:53,560 --> 00:58:55,800 Speaker 1: U one of the things that crossed my mind is 1059 00:58:55,840 --> 00:58:58,600 Speaker 1: I watched the Democrats and the left just go crazy 1060 00:58:58,640 --> 00:59:02,480 Speaker 1: over Daca. Was wow. Kind of by accident, you guys 1061 00:59:02,560 --> 00:59:06,560 Speaker 1: almost looked patriotic at this point, what with your support 1062 00:59:06,680 --> 00:59:09,760 Speaker 1: of this people wanting to stay in this wonderful country 1063 00:59:09,920 --> 00:59:14,400 Speaker 1: under President Trump and considering what a little hissy fit 1064 00:59:14,440 --> 00:59:17,520 Speaker 1: they've been having that seemed extremely un American. You know, 1065 00:59:17,680 --> 00:59:19,960 Speaker 1: you're you're actually stuf. You're stumbling onto what I think 1066 00:59:20,040 --> 00:59:22,840 Speaker 1: is a very interesting point, which is that culturally speaking, 1067 00:59:23,400 --> 00:59:29,200 Speaker 1: Democrats are the flag burning is patriotic. Criticizing the nation 1068 00:59:29,480 --> 00:59:32,320 Speaker 1: in the most vitriolic terms, talking about how we are 1069 00:59:32,440 --> 00:59:35,880 Speaker 1: just soaked in a history of racism and genocide. That 1070 00:59:35,920 --> 00:59:38,440 Speaker 1: comes from the left. It comes from Democrats only when 1071 00:59:38,440 --> 00:59:41,760 Speaker 1: they're making the case for how we can't kick basically 1072 00:59:41,840 --> 00:59:43,840 Speaker 1: anyone out of the country, no matter what their legal 1073 00:59:43,880 --> 00:59:46,440 Speaker 1: status is here unless they're a mass murderer or or 1074 00:59:46,520 --> 00:59:49,080 Speaker 1: a or a rapist. Uh. That's when they start to 1075 00:59:49,080 --> 00:59:52,680 Speaker 1: speak about America in these in these flowery and loving 1076 00:59:52,840 --> 00:59:55,360 Speaker 1: terms of you know, this this great republic and the 1077 00:59:55,360 --> 00:59:58,280 Speaker 1: Statue of Liberties, embrace and the poem and give me 1078 00:59:58,320 --> 01:00:01,120 Speaker 1: you're tired and blah, blah all that stuff. Only when 1079 01:00:01,120 --> 01:00:04,000 Speaker 1: they're talking about how legals need to stay do democrats 1080 01:00:04,040 --> 01:00:07,200 Speaker 1: all of a sudden think that patriot Patriotism isn't just quaint, 1081 01:00:07,720 --> 01:00:09,400 Speaker 1: you know, it's not just for those people that have 1082 01:00:09,960 --> 01:00:15,080 Speaker 1: flags in front of their homes exactly. And actually I've 1083 01:00:15,080 --> 01:00:17,320 Speaker 1: been looked at more than a few times for a 1084 01:00:17,320 --> 01:00:20,160 Speaker 1: couple of flags that I have here around the property, 1085 01:00:20,240 --> 01:00:22,880 Speaker 1: and and people will often look at the flag and say, 1086 01:00:22,960 --> 01:00:25,280 Speaker 1: you know, did you vote for Trump? And it's like 1087 01:00:25,360 --> 01:00:29,520 Speaker 1: Jesus suffering Christ, you know, honestly. Uh. But you know, 1088 01:00:29,600 --> 01:00:31,760 Speaker 1: it reminds me so often of one of the funniest 1089 01:00:31,800 --> 01:00:33,720 Speaker 1: things you've ever said, and it could be the most 1090 01:00:33,760 --> 01:00:38,000 Speaker 1: quotable buck thing of It was a year ago and 1091 01:00:38,040 --> 01:00:41,680 Speaker 1: you said, has anybody ever said something to you it 1092 01:00:41,760 --> 01:00:46,400 Speaker 1: was so stupid that you just froze? And and that 1093 01:00:46,480 --> 01:00:49,880 Speaker 1: came from you, and I've never forgotten it because I 1094 01:00:50,000 --> 01:00:52,720 Speaker 1: laughed all morning after hearing that. I was listening to 1095 01:00:52,720 --> 01:00:55,840 Speaker 1: your podcast, thank you speaking of something and and shields 1096 01:00:55,920 --> 01:00:58,840 Speaker 1: I Phil in New Hampshire speaking of something so stupid 1097 01:00:58,880 --> 01:01:04,760 Speaker 1: you just freeze? Uh. Kamala Harris, who is a senator 1098 01:01:04,960 --> 01:01:07,160 Speaker 1: from the state that I am currently in. I'm out 1099 01:01:07,160 --> 01:01:11,840 Speaker 1: here in l A. She's a senator from California. She 1100 01:01:11,960 --> 01:01:15,480 Speaker 1: tweeted out from her official account last night for Attorney 1101 01:01:15,560 --> 01:01:20,800 Speaker 1: General Jeff Jeff Sessions to suggest that Dreamers are anything 1102 01:01:20,880 --> 01:01:28,640 Speaker 1: other than lawful is irresponsible. Um, well you see, Ms Harris. 1103 01:01:28,680 --> 01:01:32,760 Speaker 1: The problem with that, I mean, this is really this 1104 01:01:32,800 --> 01:01:38,200 Speaker 1: is similar to saying for anyone to call illegal immigrants 1105 01:01:39,240 --> 01:01:45,600 Speaker 1: out for illegality is just wrong. Well, no, it's it's not. 1106 01:01:45,800 --> 01:01:49,920 Speaker 1: Actually it's adee, you got it, like came in they 1107 01:01:50,000 --> 01:01:52,200 Speaker 1: come out here in the four o five and the 1108 01:01:52,200 --> 01:01:54,760 Speaker 1: window would and driving your guts Like, why can't you 1109 01:01:54,800 --> 01:01:56,560 Speaker 1: just be cool? They why do you get to see 1110 01:01:56,560 --> 01:02:00,040 Speaker 1: any illegal? See I can. I could live here. I 1111 01:02:00,520 --> 01:02:03,440 Speaker 1: get the California vibe. There's you know, there's these freeways 1112 01:02:03,520 --> 01:02:06,160 Speaker 1: that people talk about a lot. I've seen the SNL sketch. 1113 01:02:06,240 --> 01:02:09,200 Speaker 1: I get it. Okay, Enough on the DOCTA thing for 1114 01:02:09,240 --> 01:02:13,480 Speaker 1: a second. I wanted to talk about this massive hacks. 1115 01:02:13,520 --> 01:02:16,560 Speaker 1: So Equifax and uh, you know Equifax Experience. These are 1116 01:02:16,560 --> 01:02:20,200 Speaker 1: the companies that decide what your credit rating is um, 1117 01:02:20,280 --> 01:02:23,880 Speaker 1: which is a a whole separate discussion would be how 1118 01:02:23,880 --> 01:02:26,720 Speaker 1: anyone thinks it's fair that I don't know, maybe a 1119 01:02:27,360 --> 01:02:30,920 Speaker 1: maybe a five dollar charge that you never received from 1120 01:02:30,960 --> 01:02:34,720 Speaker 1: like Blockbuster or wherever years ago that then gets turned 1121 01:02:34,720 --> 01:02:36,520 Speaker 1: over to collections. Like how that can knock your credit 1122 01:02:36,560 --> 01:02:38,400 Speaker 1: down a hundred points or something. I mean, you know, 1123 01:02:38,440 --> 01:02:40,840 Speaker 1: so I'm told how that could happen to anybody, and 1124 01:02:40,880 --> 01:02:43,640 Speaker 1: that's considered to be you know, the five dollars that 1125 01:02:43,720 --> 01:02:45,360 Speaker 1: you owe that you didn't know about a year ago 1126 01:02:45,480 --> 01:02:50,240 Speaker 1: means that you're not a good credit risk. Is that's 1127 01:02:50,240 --> 01:02:53,400 Speaker 1: something that should be addressed in the system. Shall we say? Um? 1128 01:02:53,440 --> 01:02:57,680 Speaker 1: But experience has a lot of your information and now 1129 01:02:57,840 --> 01:03:00,520 Speaker 1: because of hackers and I have a fee link, I 1130 01:03:00,520 --> 01:03:03,080 Speaker 1: don't know this. I have a feeling we're gonna find 1131 01:03:03,120 --> 01:03:06,160 Speaker 1: out that the brilliance of this hack, meaning the skill 1132 01:03:06,400 --> 01:03:11,160 Speaker 1: of these hackers. We'd like to think that it's speaking 1133 01:03:11,160 --> 01:03:14,120 Speaker 1: of the matrix, that it's like some you know, cyber 1134 01:03:14,200 --> 01:03:19,480 Speaker 1: geniuses in a in a double double secret bunker under 1135 01:03:19,520 --> 01:03:24,560 Speaker 1: a former nuclear missile silo site somewhere in Siberia, and 1136 01:03:24,960 --> 01:03:28,280 Speaker 1: you know that you get the information, is we've got 1137 01:03:28,280 --> 01:03:30,959 Speaker 1: the all the experience data, like you'd like to think 1138 01:03:31,000 --> 01:03:34,600 Speaker 1: that there these genius, brilliant guys are doing this I'm 1139 01:03:34,600 --> 01:03:39,000 Speaker 1: gonna guess that they probably went with the the old 1140 01:03:39,120 --> 01:03:41,680 Speaker 1: Podesta routine or something like that, meaning that it was 1141 01:03:41,720 --> 01:03:44,720 Speaker 1: a phishing scam. You know, there's somebody at the company 1142 01:03:44,800 --> 01:03:46,760 Speaker 1: got sent in him like, I don't know, it could 1143 01:03:46,760 --> 01:03:51,520 Speaker 1: be I I'm the first one to calling calling the 1144 01:03:51,560 --> 01:03:54,360 Speaker 1: I T support desk for you know, my computer won't 1145 01:03:54,360 --> 01:03:55,880 Speaker 1: turn on. I mean, I'm not gonna pretend like I'm 1146 01:03:55,920 --> 01:03:57,840 Speaker 1: good at this stuff, but I do read a lot 1147 01:03:57,880 --> 01:04:01,160 Speaker 1: about hacking and cyber and I'm familiar with the uh 1148 01:04:01,480 --> 01:04:08,080 Speaker 1: national security implications of data loss. So here's what it 1149 01:04:08,120 --> 01:04:11,320 Speaker 1: probably was. Something pretty straightforward, which in some ways is 1150 01:04:11,360 --> 01:04:14,280 Speaker 1: even more concerning because if someone just sends an email. 1151 01:04:14,320 --> 01:04:16,680 Speaker 1: I mean, this is some of you have probably had this. 1152 01:04:17,080 --> 01:04:20,280 Speaker 1: If you go through your your spam filter of your 1153 01:04:20,280 --> 01:04:24,440 Speaker 1: email account. Uh you know, if you decided to peruse 1154 01:04:24,480 --> 01:04:26,360 Speaker 1: through it, which I don't recommend you do, but if 1155 01:04:26,360 --> 01:04:29,480 Speaker 1: you did do that, you'd probably see someone. You'd probably 1156 01:04:29,480 --> 01:04:31,840 Speaker 1: see some email saying you know, I I've just come 1157 01:04:31,880 --> 01:04:34,880 Speaker 1: into an inheritance and if you just get just I 1158 01:04:34,920 --> 01:04:36,760 Speaker 1: would love to give you this ten million dollars. Just 1159 01:04:36,760 --> 01:04:40,880 Speaker 1: give me your bank account information. Those scams are so 1160 01:04:41,440 --> 01:04:45,040 Speaker 1: uh so blatant and so dumb that nobody ever wants 1161 01:04:45,080 --> 01:04:47,880 Speaker 1: to talk about the fact that until pretty recently at 1162 01:04:47,920 --> 01:04:50,640 Speaker 1: least millions and millions and millions of dollars were being 1163 01:04:51,480 --> 01:04:55,120 Speaker 1: lost stolen through scams just like that. And the scammers 1164 01:04:55,160 --> 01:04:57,960 Speaker 1: have gotten more sophisticated. Now, you know, the old version 1165 01:04:58,040 --> 01:05:01,880 Speaker 1: of hey, I'm I'm prints from a country that doesn't 1166 01:05:01,920 --> 01:05:05,320 Speaker 1: exist and the royal family needs some I mean, I've 1167 01:05:05,360 --> 01:05:07,840 Speaker 1: I've seen versions of this in the past. Now it's 1168 01:05:08,600 --> 01:05:10,560 Speaker 1: they format it to look like it came from the 1169 01:05:10,560 --> 01:05:12,240 Speaker 1: I T desk of your company, and it's, Hey, I 1170 01:05:12,240 --> 01:05:14,000 Speaker 1: just need to reset your password, or hey, you know, 1171 01:05:14,000 --> 01:05:15,600 Speaker 1: I just need to click this link to test something 1172 01:05:15,600 --> 01:05:18,640 Speaker 1: out for our security systems. You know, Bob in I T. 1173 01:05:19,800 --> 01:05:21,160 Speaker 1: I mean, you know you don't want Bob and I 1174 01:05:21,240 --> 01:05:22,959 Speaker 1: T to put you on the on the naughty list 1175 01:05:22,960 --> 01:05:25,960 Speaker 1: of people that don't respond to the security protocol survey, 1176 01:05:26,080 --> 01:05:28,400 Speaker 1: so you need you click on it, right, They've gotten smarter. 1177 01:05:29,640 --> 01:05:32,000 Speaker 1: Whether you're sitting at home at your computer or you're 1178 01:05:32,080 --> 01:05:34,560 Speaker 1: at an office somewhere, doesn't matter. If you're connected to 1179 01:05:34,560 --> 01:05:38,000 Speaker 1: the Internet, you're vulnerable in one way or another. And 1180 01:05:38,040 --> 01:05:41,480 Speaker 1: a company like Equifax is a huge target because of 1181 01:05:41,520 --> 01:05:45,040 Speaker 1: all the sensitive information that it has and now somebody 1182 01:05:45,080 --> 01:05:47,440 Speaker 1: else has it. Here's the big report today. Here's this 1183 01:05:47,520 --> 01:05:52,240 Speaker 1: is a massive cyber breach your information. I mean hundred 1184 01:05:52,240 --> 01:05:56,520 Speaker 1: and forty three million exposed only three million people in 1185 01:05:56,560 --> 01:05:58,360 Speaker 1: the country. So I mean we're looking at a roughly 1186 01:05:58,400 --> 01:06:00,560 Speaker 1: fifty fifty shot for those of you listing. I mean, 1187 01:06:00,560 --> 01:06:03,000 Speaker 1: it's close to a coin flip that you now that 1188 01:06:03,000 --> 01:06:06,120 Speaker 1: doesn't I'm not saying that they're going to be buying 1189 01:06:06,160 --> 01:06:09,880 Speaker 1: a that are our fictional Yurie in in Siberia is 1190 01:06:09,920 --> 01:06:11,800 Speaker 1: going to be buying a few houses, in a in 1191 01:06:11,840 --> 01:06:15,840 Speaker 1: a motor boat and everything else in your name. But yeah, 1192 01:06:16,440 --> 01:06:19,040 Speaker 1: it could be out there now and and someone's information. 1193 01:06:19,040 --> 01:06:21,600 Speaker 1: I mean, they did this for some reason. Here's what 1194 01:06:21,640 --> 01:06:24,840 Speaker 1: we know. Equifax incorporated this court in Bloomberg News said 1195 01:06:24,880 --> 01:06:28,320 Speaker 1: it's systems were struck by a cyber attack and they 1196 01:06:28,360 --> 01:06:30,600 Speaker 1: have effected about a hundred and forty three million US 1197 01:06:30,680 --> 01:06:33,680 Speaker 1: customers of the credit reporting agency, shedding light on one 1198 01:06:33,680 --> 01:06:37,240 Speaker 1: of the largest and most intrusive breaches in history. And 1199 01:06:37,400 --> 01:06:38,800 Speaker 1: here's what you really need to know. So what they 1200 01:06:38,840 --> 01:06:41,280 Speaker 1: get a lot of the time with this stuff. Oh, 1201 01:06:41,400 --> 01:06:44,880 Speaker 1: they've they've walled off for there's a firewall to prevent 1202 01:06:44,920 --> 01:06:47,120 Speaker 1: the really sensitive stuff. Oh no, in this case looks 1203 01:06:47,160 --> 01:06:49,800 Speaker 1: like no, they got it, and in this case the 1204 01:06:49,880 --> 01:06:54,120 Speaker 1: heist may have been successful. They got past the the 1205 01:06:54,160 --> 01:06:58,600 Speaker 1: initial cash registers and got into the bank vault. Intruders 1206 01:06:58,680 --> 01:07:04,880 Speaker 1: have accessed quote names, social security numbers, birth dates, addresses, 1207 01:07:05,000 --> 01:07:09,680 Speaker 1: and driver's license numbers, Equifax said in a statement. Credit 1208 01:07:09,680 --> 01:07:12,919 Speaker 1: card companies credit card numbers for about two and nine 1209 01:07:13,080 --> 01:07:17,720 Speaker 1: thousand consumers were also accessed. Equifax shares drop more than 1210 01:07:17,760 --> 01:07:20,800 Speaker 1: eight percent in after hours trading, which is only particularly 1211 01:07:20,840 --> 01:07:23,440 Speaker 1: interesting to me because there's also a Bloomberg piece here 1212 01:07:23,680 --> 01:07:27,360 Speaker 1: how some Equifax managers sold stock before this hack was disclosed. 1213 01:07:29,520 --> 01:07:32,240 Speaker 1: It's not a good idea, guys. That is that is 1214 01:07:32,360 --> 01:07:36,840 Speaker 1: that is an inadvisable, inadvisable from illegal perspective, I believe 1215 01:07:36,840 --> 01:07:40,920 Speaker 1: that is an inadvisable move. So, um, huge hack. All 1216 01:07:40,920 --> 01:07:44,280 Speaker 1: this information now is out there and will you Will 1217 01:07:44,280 --> 01:07:46,400 Speaker 1: it affect you as an individual? Probably not. There's some 1218 01:07:46,800 --> 01:07:48,960 Speaker 1: there's some safety in the herd here. They've got so 1219 01:07:49,040 --> 01:07:51,480 Speaker 1: much data that your data is unlikely to grab anyone 1220 01:07:51,600 --> 01:07:55,840 Speaker 1: individual's attention. But clearly this could be used for the 1221 01:07:55,920 --> 01:08:00,360 Speaker 1: purposes of trying to scam, trying to scam the financial system, 1222 01:08:00,400 --> 01:08:04,600 Speaker 1: and trying to use data for identity theft purposes. And 1223 01:08:05,120 --> 01:08:08,919 Speaker 1: that's that tried and true, and an identity theft as 1224 01:08:08,920 --> 01:08:12,480 Speaker 1: a as a form of criminal enterprise just gets bigger. 1225 01:08:12,520 --> 01:08:17,240 Speaker 1: You're in and year out, and this shows you that 1226 01:08:17,320 --> 01:08:22,040 Speaker 1: we are now forced to conduct business, to just be 1227 01:08:22,320 --> 01:08:26,439 Speaker 1: a functioning person unless you're gonna live off the grid entirely, 1228 01:08:27,120 --> 01:08:30,320 Speaker 1: and you know, you've you've got like a solar generator 1229 01:08:30,400 --> 01:08:32,360 Speaker 1: and you're in a well with your own water supply, 1230 01:08:32,479 --> 01:08:33,880 Speaker 1: and you don't have any you don't have a cell 1231 01:08:33,920 --> 01:08:39,040 Speaker 1: phone or computer. If you're interacting in the interactive world 1232 01:08:40,600 --> 01:08:44,799 Speaker 1: word play. Um, if you're doing that, you expose yourself 1233 01:08:44,880 --> 01:08:49,599 Speaker 1: to this and you have no choice. You know, the 1234 01:08:49,600 --> 01:08:51,840 Speaker 1: the I R S demands all this information from you. 1235 01:08:51,920 --> 01:08:54,840 Speaker 1: The credit monitoring agencies gather all this information on you. 1236 01:08:54,920 --> 01:08:56,479 Speaker 1: If you want a loan, if you want to buy 1237 01:08:56,479 --> 01:08:58,719 Speaker 1: a car, if you want credit cards. People are gonna 1238 01:08:58,760 --> 01:09:02,599 Speaker 1: get this information. They're gonna have it, and that means 1239 01:09:02,640 --> 01:09:05,240 Speaker 1: that if they don't take all due care with it, 1240 01:09:05,280 --> 01:09:11,080 Speaker 1: there are vulnerabilities here that are exposed. Now this we'll 1241 01:09:11,120 --> 01:09:14,360 Speaker 1: see where this all goes. Um who who knows what 1242 01:09:14,439 --> 01:09:17,280 Speaker 1: the full damage will be. But we have entered a 1243 01:09:17,320 --> 01:09:20,160 Speaker 1: period here and this is really a twenty one century 1244 01:09:20,160 --> 01:09:27,280 Speaker 1: phenomenon where so much damage, so much knowledge and wealth 1245 01:09:27,320 --> 01:09:31,280 Speaker 1: transfer is happening without any of us even really knowing 1246 01:09:31,320 --> 01:09:35,200 Speaker 1: about it and the implications of it. And I'm thinking 1247 01:09:35,200 --> 01:09:39,040 Speaker 1: more along the lines of cyber espionage that's going on 1248 01:09:39,080 --> 01:09:42,960 Speaker 1: all the time with intrusions into yes, government computers, military computers, 1249 01:09:44,120 --> 01:09:48,880 Speaker 1: various companies small and large, the intellectual property that they have. 1250 01:09:49,800 --> 01:09:52,640 Speaker 1: The biggest advantage that the United States has other than 1251 01:09:52,640 --> 01:09:56,120 Speaker 1: our wonderful country are great resources and our unparalleled people. 1252 01:09:56,960 --> 01:10:00,160 Speaker 1: The biggest advantage we have, both economic and econ moomic 1253 01:10:00,280 --> 01:10:07,679 Speaker 1: and military terms, is information. We have information advantages over 1254 01:10:08,560 --> 01:10:11,599 Speaker 1: every other country in the world. The moment or another right, 1255 01:10:11,960 --> 01:10:16,240 Speaker 1: we have advanced technology that other countries don't have. We 1256 01:10:16,320 --> 01:10:20,960 Speaker 1: have companies that have proprietary technology that other companies and 1257 01:10:21,040 --> 01:10:25,400 Speaker 1: countries want to have. And the moment you start to 1258 01:10:25,439 --> 01:10:31,200 Speaker 1: look at how widespread this cyber theft really is, and 1259 01:10:31,439 --> 01:10:33,439 Speaker 1: keep in mind, I don't think anybody knows because a 1260 01:10:33,439 --> 01:10:35,720 Speaker 1: lot of it happens without the intrusions being detected. And 1261 01:10:36,080 --> 01:10:38,599 Speaker 1: the government both wants to talk about it because they 1262 01:10:38,640 --> 01:10:41,479 Speaker 1: want the resources to combat it, because the government always 1263 01:10:41,520 --> 01:10:43,960 Speaker 1: wants more resources and doesn't really want to talk about 1264 01:10:44,000 --> 01:10:45,880 Speaker 1: it because it looks like they're asleep at the wheel 1265 01:10:45,960 --> 01:10:50,559 Speaker 1: and there not getting the job done protecting uh are 1266 01:10:51,439 --> 01:10:53,680 Speaker 1: I'm talking about now you your your company at the 1267 01:10:53,720 --> 01:10:56,439 Speaker 1: private citizen level as well, not just you know, we 1268 01:10:56,560 --> 01:10:59,960 Speaker 1: we've had look at the hack against Sony, huge damage 1269 01:11:00,120 --> 01:11:05,400 Speaker 1: done to that company. It's a private company. But I 1270 01:11:05,400 --> 01:11:08,759 Speaker 1: I want to refocus this though, on the long term impact. 1271 01:11:09,880 --> 01:11:13,160 Speaker 1: So much of what is necessary for economy to flourish 1272 01:11:13,240 --> 01:11:16,960 Speaker 1: and and for a military to have superiority is information 1273 01:11:17,000 --> 01:11:21,080 Speaker 1: based and if you're online, if it is online, it 1274 01:11:21,200 --> 01:11:25,599 Speaker 1: is vulnerable. And these vulnerabilities are being exploited so many 1275 01:11:25,600 --> 01:11:27,640 Speaker 1: times that I can't even begin to fathom what the 1276 01:11:27,680 --> 01:11:32,000 Speaker 1: real number is and the long term impact of this 1277 01:11:32,080 --> 01:11:34,160 Speaker 1: is really going to be felt at I've I've been 1278 01:11:34,160 --> 01:11:35,519 Speaker 1: saying this for a while and I just I do 1279 01:11:35,600 --> 01:11:39,599 Speaker 1: want to repeat it at a civilizational level, and I yes, 1280 01:11:39,680 --> 01:11:42,760 Speaker 1: I'm looking at you China and Russia and other countries 1281 01:11:42,840 --> 01:11:45,799 Speaker 1: that are realizing that the R and D, the research 1282 01:11:45,840 --> 01:11:47,680 Speaker 1: and development, the things that they would usually have to 1283 01:11:47,760 --> 01:11:50,840 Speaker 1: do to get up to speed with us in a 1284 01:11:50,840 --> 01:11:52,559 Speaker 1: whole bunch of areas. They don't have to. They can 1285 01:11:52,560 --> 01:11:55,200 Speaker 1: just try to steal it. And it's easier than ever 1286 01:11:55,240 --> 01:11:57,679 Speaker 1: to steal information. And there's so much more information out 1287 01:11:57,680 --> 01:12:01,639 Speaker 1: there in the first place. So the the cyber war 1288 01:12:02,120 --> 01:12:05,000 Speaker 1: is global. It is everywhere, and if you have an 1289 01:12:05,000 --> 01:12:08,320 Speaker 1: Internet connection or a cell phone, my friends, you can 1290 01:12:08,400 --> 01:12:11,200 Speaker 1: be affected by it. That is what the Equifax hack 1291 01:12:11,280 --> 01:12:14,920 Speaker 1: today is a reminder of quick break here. We'll be 1292 01:12:15,000 --> 01:12:16,800 Speaker 1: right back. We're going to talk about Title nine and 1293 01:12:17,000 --> 01:12:20,800 Speaker 1: Betsy Divas, she is restoring due process to people who 1294 01:12:20,840 --> 01:12:23,840 Speaker 1: are accused on campus of sexual misconduct. Will be back 1295 01:12:23,880 --> 01:12:25,519 Speaker 1: with that more. What he was trying to say is 1296 01:12:25,560 --> 01:12:28,320 Speaker 1: that people that support the monuments staying there peacefully and 1297 01:12:28,360 --> 01:12:31,559 Speaker 1: people that oppose that, that's the normal course of First Amendment. 1298 01:12:31,680 --> 01:12:33,919 Speaker 1: But he's talking about the neo Nazis and neo Confederates 1299 01:12:33,920 --> 01:12:35,960 Speaker 1: in the clan, who, by the way, are absolutely off 1300 01:12:35,960 --> 01:12:37,880 Speaker 1: of There's no room in American politics, so that there's 1301 01:12:37,880 --> 01:12:40,240 Speaker 1: no room in American society for that. And all Donald 1302 01:12:40,240 --> 01:12:41,880 Speaker 1: Trump was saying is where is it end? Does it end? 1303 01:12:41,880 --> 01:12:44,040 Speaker 1: And taking down the Washington monument is a end, and 1304 01:12:44,080 --> 01:12:46,759 Speaker 1: taking down Washmore is an end, and taking Churchill's bust 1305 01:12:47,080 --> 01:12:50,600 Speaker 1: out of the Oval office. You have Steve benn and 1306 01:12:50,720 --> 01:12:53,599 Speaker 1: I think he's on I think he was on sixty minutes. There. 1307 01:12:54,280 --> 01:12:57,519 Speaker 1: They're really right, he will be. But that's a clip 1308 01:12:57,560 --> 01:12:59,479 Speaker 1: from the sixty minutes interview. Right, So you got Steve 1309 01:12:59,479 --> 01:13:02,280 Speaker 1: Benn and going on six minutes. The media or the 1310 01:13:02,320 --> 01:13:06,120 Speaker 1: opposition party, aren't they? It's interesting. Look, I I understand 1311 01:13:06,160 --> 01:13:11,200 Speaker 1: what the uh the thinking is. I believe at least 1312 01:13:11,240 --> 01:13:14,000 Speaker 1: I understand it that he is going to use just 1313 01:13:14,080 --> 01:13:17,560 Speaker 1: because he disagrees with the mainstream media and thinks they're dishonest, 1314 01:13:18,720 --> 01:13:20,880 Speaker 1: doesn't mean he won't use their platform for his own 1315 01:13:20,880 --> 01:13:25,439 Speaker 1: purposes or you know, when given the opportunity. But there 1316 01:13:25,479 --> 01:13:27,679 Speaker 1: he was talking about the Charlottesville and Trump's on both 1317 01:13:27,720 --> 01:13:31,400 Speaker 1: sides statement that got so much attention after after Charlottesville, 1318 01:13:32,360 --> 01:13:36,479 Speaker 1: and this will be completely this will be brushed off 1319 01:13:36,600 --> 01:13:38,360 Speaker 1: by those who just don't want to hear it when 1320 01:13:38,360 --> 01:13:40,120 Speaker 1: he says that there's no room in American side and 1321 01:13:40,160 --> 01:13:43,639 Speaker 1: in American society for neo whatever it is he said, 1322 01:13:43,640 --> 01:13:49,840 Speaker 1: neo Confederates. I think white nationalist, neo nazis all that stuff. Um, 1323 01:13:49,880 --> 01:13:52,200 Speaker 1: he says that, and that will be that will be 1324 01:13:52,240 --> 01:13:56,160 Speaker 1: completely swept. They won't pay any time to it because 1325 01:13:56,160 --> 01:13:59,360 Speaker 1: they've decided that Steve Bannon, the press and so many 1326 01:13:59,400 --> 01:14:02,000 Speaker 1: others have to say that Steve Bannon is racist, no 1327 01:14:02,040 --> 01:14:05,479 Speaker 1: matter how many times he says he is, he is not. Um. 1328 01:14:06,120 --> 01:14:08,280 Speaker 1: It does remind me though, that there's there are a 1329 01:14:08,280 --> 01:14:10,200 Speaker 1: couple of pieces I saw one in particular that I 1330 01:14:10,240 --> 01:14:11,720 Speaker 1: can at least think I left top of my head. 1331 01:14:11,760 --> 01:14:13,760 Speaker 1: I think there were a couple of them this week 1332 01:14:13,760 --> 01:14:17,559 Speaker 1: that we're trying to say that the Republican Party has 1333 01:14:17,680 --> 01:14:21,559 Speaker 1: and and then that the DOCA and immigration is really 1334 01:14:21,600 --> 01:14:24,880 Speaker 1: just a a reflection of this problem. Right. What they're 1335 01:14:24,880 --> 01:14:28,440 Speaker 1: saying is that the Republican Party has a white nationalist 1336 01:14:28,439 --> 01:14:30,559 Speaker 1: problem and that the Democrats do not have an anti 1337 01:14:30,640 --> 01:14:36,520 Speaker 1: fun problem. Uh, they've just got it backwards. Delusional democrats. 1338 01:14:37,040 --> 01:14:44,240 Speaker 1: Delusional democrats. They refuse to see things in the order 1339 01:14:44,240 --> 01:14:46,840 Speaker 1: of magnitude in which they actually exist, and they will 1340 01:14:46,960 --> 01:14:49,200 Speaker 1: they will magnify what they want to and they will 1341 01:14:49,240 --> 01:14:53,280 Speaker 1: minimize what they want to in the current political conversation. 1342 01:14:53,960 --> 01:14:56,879 Speaker 1: So Bannon saying that there's no room in American Society 1343 01:14:56,920 --> 01:14:59,720 Speaker 1: for Nazis, it'll be like he never said it. That 1344 01:14:59,800 --> 01:15:03,200 Speaker 1: that won't get that won't get much more attention or 1345 01:15:03,200 --> 01:15:06,160 Speaker 1: play at all, other than what people take away from 1346 01:15:06,160 --> 01:15:07,600 Speaker 1: that when he says that on when they air that 1347 01:15:07,640 --> 01:15:11,640 Speaker 1: sixty minutes interview. But on Anti five versus white nationalists, 1348 01:15:11,760 --> 01:15:15,200 Speaker 1: I still I've I've seen Anti file with my own eyes. 1349 01:15:15,240 --> 01:15:18,200 Speaker 1: I've I've been around them at protests. I this group 1350 01:15:18,240 --> 01:15:20,400 Speaker 1: has been around and it wasn't called Anti Father then, 1351 01:15:20,439 --> 01:15:27,120 Speaker 1: but this anarchist, leftist progressive movement is really has been 1352 01:15:27,120 --> 01:15:30,360 Speaker 1: around for a few decades actually, but with Trump, they 1353 01:15:30,400 --> 01:15:34,040 Speaker 1: have seized the moment. They say that now they're particularly needed, 1354 01:15:34,040 --> 01:15:38,400 Speaker 1: and they become even more open and vicious. It's because 1355 01:15:38,400 --> 01:15:41,240 Speaker 1: that not only are are they a widespread group, but 1356 01:15:42,280 --> 01:15:45,920 Speaker 1: they have the sympathy of a lot of people in 1357 01:15:45,920 --> 01:15:50,320 Speaker 1: the media. They believe that there's some need to oppose 1358 01:15:51,640 --> 01:15:55,320 Speaker 1: Trump because of fascism. I mean, so anti fascism must 1359 01:15:55,320 --> 01:15:57,240 Speaker 1: at some level be a good thing, right. It's crazy, 1360 01:15:57,320 --> 01:15:59,120 Speaker 1: but this is what people in the media think. Are 1361 01:15:59,200 --> 01:16:02,839 Speaker 1: this big title nine discussion today coming up sexual assault 1362 01:16:02,880 --> 01:16:05,560 Speaker 1: on campus? Should you have rights if you are accused 1363 01:16:06,160 --> 01:16:08,080 Speaker 1: or should you be part of a kangaroo court. That's 1364 01:16:08,080 --> 01:16:10,479 Speaker 1: what the discussion really comes down to. Buck is back 1365 01:16:10,479 --> 01:16:12,840 Speaker 1: here with you in the Freedom Hunt West Coast edition 1366 01:16:13,439 --> 01:16:16,120 Speaker 1: here in Los Angeles. Thank you so much for listening, 1367 01:16:16,160 --> 01:16:18,559 Speaker 1: Thank you for joining. If you have not, please do 1368 01:16:18,880 --> 01:16:22,800 Speaker 1: follow me on Twitter at bucks acton. Also Facebook dot 1369 01:16:22,800 --> 01:16:26,679 Speaker 1: com slash Bucks section for all your social media team 1370 01:16:26,720 --> 01:16:28,960 Speaker 1: Buck needs and if you want to get some gear 1371 01:16:29,040 --> 01:16:33,839 Speaker 1: Bucks exton dot com slash store, T shirts, hats, mugs, 1372 01:16:34,960 --> 01:16:39,800 Speaker 1: Freedom Hunt paraphernalia, good stuff, go check it out. I 1373 01:16:39,880 --> 01:16:41,840 Speaker 1: want to talk to you about title nine. Title nine. 1374 01:16:41,920 --> 01:16:45,760 Speaker 1: This sounds like it well, some of you might think 1375 01:16:45,800 --> 01:16:47,920 Speaker 1: that this is fascinating. That's great. I hope you do. 1376 01:16:48,640 --> 01:16:50,679 Speaker 1: But when you say things like let's talk about title nine, 1377 01:16:51,200 --> 01:16:53,120 Speaker 1: I can understand a lot of folks across the country 1378 01:16:53,120 --> 01:16:55,960 Speaker 1: and be like, ah, this is not this is not 1379 01:16:56,080 --> 01:16:57,760 Speaker 1: something I have to really deal with. I have to 1380 01:16:57,760 --> 01:17:02,400 Speaker 1: worry about. Because here's what title minds as. Here is 1381 01:17:02,439 --> 01:17:07,040 Speaker 1: what the actual text states. It's from the Education Amendment 1382 01:17:07,040 --> 01:17:11,439 Speaker 1: of nWo okay. Quote, no person in the United States 1383 01:17:11,479 --> 01:17:18,200 Speaker 1: shell on the basis of sex, be excluded from participation in, 1384 01:17:19,280 --> 01:17:24,240 Speaker 1: be denied the benefits of, or be subjected to discrimination 1385 01:17:24,400 --> 01:17:28,640 Speaker 1: under any education program or activity receiving federal financial assistance. 1386 01:17:29,920 --> 01:17:33,720 Speaker 1: So it's just a federal government statute that says that 1387 01:17:33,800 --> 01:17:38,960 Speaker 1: you can't discriminate against somebody on the basis of sex. Okay, 1388 01:17:39,320 --> 01:17:43,120 Speaker 1: it seems very straightforward. How do you get from there 1389 01:17:44,120 --> 01:17:48,320 Speaker 1: to where the Obama administration took it, which is not 1390 01:17:48,479 --> 01:17:51,519 Speaker 1: only and and but the history of Title nine and 1391 01:17:51,560 --> 01:17:54,519 Speaker 1: I could go into some detail here if some of 1392 01:17:54,560 --> 01:17:56,840 Speaker 1: you are curious, maybe let me know another show. I will. 1393 01:17:56,880 --> 01:17:59,200 Speaker 1: But what it has meant in practice is that you 1394 01:17:59,520 --> 01:18:01,680 Speaker 1: have to have a cool sports spending for men's and 1395 01:18:01,680 --> 01:18:03,479 Speaker 1: women's teams. That was an issue for a while. So 1396 01:18:03,720 --> 01:18:08,000 Speaker 1: you have to get rid of different athletic programs at schools, 1397 01:18:08,479 --> 01:18:12,160 Speaker 1: even though there's actually a difference in the participation rates 1398 01:18:12,200 --> 01:18:14,559 Speaker 1: between the male and female components of the student body 1399 01:18:14,560 --> 01:18:16,439 Speaker 1: when it comes to varsity athletics at the n C 1400 01:18:16,520 --> 01:18:19,599 Speaker 1: Double A level. Oh my gosh, but you know you 1401 01:18:19,640 --> 01:18:22,280 Speaker 1: had to have even spending. Well, you know, it's tough 1402 01:18:22,320 --> 01:18:24,200 Speaker 1: to spend as much on the women's volleyball team as 1403 01:18:24,240 --> 01:18:25,840 Speaker 1: you do on the men's football team. So what do 1404 01:18:25,920 --> 01:18:30,800 Speaker 1: they do. They cut the men's lacrosse team or they 1405 01:18:30,840 --> 01:18:33,200 Speaker 1: cut the men's crew team or or whatever they found 1406 01:18:33,240 --> 01:18:35,200 Speaker 1: ways to because they had to balance out the spending 1407 01:18:35,240 --> 01:18:39,240 Speaker 1: because of TITAL nine pressure. That's not great, but that's 1408 01:18:39,240 --> 01:18:42,439 Speaker 1: not the end of the world, right, I mean, club 1409 01:18:42,520 --> 01:18:46,080 Speaker 1: sports can form, And quite honestly, I'm probably gonna in 1410 01:18:46,080 --> 01:18:49,120 Speaker 1: trouble for saying this. I think the whole notion of 1411 01:18:49,200 --> 01:18:52,360 Speaker 1: the campus, the whole notion of our colleges and universities, 1412 01:18:52,880 --> 01:18:59,000 Speaker 1: as in many cases kind of minor league sports facilities 1413 01:18:59,040 --> 01:19:02,360 Speaker 1: that also offers some classes, is really not a good thing. 1414 01:19:03,080 --> 01:19:05,480 Speaker 1: And I know that this is maybe a more controversial 1415 01:19:05,520 --> 01:19:08,560 Speaker 1: discussion we could all have another time. You're supposed to 1416 01:19:08,560 --> 01:19:10,400 Speaker 1: go to school to get an education. You're really not 1417 01:19:10,400 --> 01:19:12,599 Speaker 1: supposed to go to schools that you can spend four 1418 01:19:12,640 --> 01:19:15,800 Speaker 1: hours a day practicing, two hours a day in the 1419 01:19:15,800 --> 01:19:19,640 Speaker 1: weight room, etcetera, etcetera, etcetera. That's that's not Actually, I 1420 01:19:19,640 --> 01:19:21,400 Speaker 1: don't know. People get mad at me, they say, buggy, 1421 01:19:22,080 --> 01:19:24,840 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I have I have opinions on this, as 1422 01:19:24,840 --> 01:19:28,280 Speaker 1: I have opinions on many things, but Title nine in 1423 01:19:28,320 --> 01:19:30,000 Speaker 1: the context of the O, and let me bring this 1424 01:19:30,040 --> 01:19:32,639 Speaker 1: back to Betsy Devas right now today, why do you care? 1425 01:19:33,120 --> 01:19:34,880 Speaker 1: Why do you care. There are a couple of reasons. 1426 01:19:36,520 --> 01:19:42,160 Speaker 1: For one, what happens on college campuses are a precursor 1427 01:19:42,200 --> 01:19:46,040 Speaker 1: to what will happen in the broader culture. Examples of 1428 01:19:46,080 --> 01:19:51,240 Speaker 1: this the language that you'll even here, things like triggering 1429 01:19:51,439 --> 01:19:54,000 Speaker 1: for when somebody says something that is so offensive, oh 1430 01:19:54,000 --> 01:19:59,439 Speaker 1: my gosh, and microaggressions. Um, excuse me, sir, you said 1431 01:19:59,479 --> 01:20:01,400 Speaker 1: something that mean to be offensive, but it was like 1432 01:20:01,479 --> 01:20:05,400 Speaker 1: totally offensive. Those are things that started on the campus 1433 01:20:05,439 --> 01:20:09,280 Speaker 1: and now they're in common usage some of your like, 1434 01:20:09,320 --> 01:20:11,400 Speaker 1: but they're not actually in common usage where I'm from, 1435 01:20:11,439 --> 01:20:15,840 Speaker 1: but they are known across the across the country. The 1436 01:20:15,960 --> 01:20:21,599 Speaker 1: progressive philosophy of intersectionality, which is that there are different 1437 01:20:21,640 --> 01:20:24,800 Speaker 1: identity groups that are in a constant struggle for primacy 1438 01:20:24,840 --> 01:20:27,559 Speaker 1: and that that is the defining characteristic of day to 1439 01:20:27,640 --> 01:20:34,400 Speaker 1: day American life, starts on the campuses and ends with 1440 01:20:34,760 --> 01:20:37,799 Speaker 1: you know, fights over transgenders in the military. It ends 1441 01:20:37,880 --> 01:20:42,840 Speaker 1: with you gotta have uh, transgender students that are twelve 1442 01:20:42,960 --> 01:20:45,400 Speaker 1: using you know that are biologically male using the bathroom 1443 01:20:45,439 --> 01:20:47,920 Speaker 1: with twelve year old girls. I mean, it starts on 1444 01:20:47,960 --> 01:20:53,240 Speaker 1: the campuses because it's where the leftist lunacy is allowed 1445 01:20:53,280 --> 01:20:55,640 Speaker 1: to It's like a labor it's like a laboratory for 1446 01:20:55,720 --> 01:20:59,160 Speaker 1: leftist lunacy. It's where it's allowed to grow and fester 1447 01:20:59,320 --> 01:21:01,240 Speaker 1: and be cult dated, and then it spreads into the 1448 01:21:01,320 --> 01:21:06,240 Speaker 1: rest of the society. So that's why with the campus 1449 01:21:06,280 --> 01:21:08,479 Speaker 1: culture and title nine on campus shouldn matter to you, 1450 01:21:08,560 --> 01:21:12,080 Speaker 1: because it will. And I should also know that professors 1451 01:21:12,160 --> 01:21:16,320 Speaker 1: and uh college presidents somebody's very overpaid administrators. They go 1452 01:21:16,360 --> 01:21:19,559 Speaker 1: on to become cabinet members, they go on to become 1453 01:21:19,720 --> 01:21:24,000 Speaker 1: very powerful government figures too. There's kind of a revolving 1454 01:21:24,040 --> 01:21:27,519 Speaker 1: door at elite universities between the top positions in government 1455 01:21:27,560 --> 01:21:31,360 Speaker 1: and the most elite universities, so there's no walling off 1456 01:21:31,400 --> 01:21:33,439 Speaker 1: the ideology of the campus from the society. I don't 1457 01:21:33,439 --> 01:21:37,519 Speaker 1: care if you live in rural Montana, if you have 1458 01:21:37,680 --> 01:21:40,080 Speaker 1: a job, have to go to a grocery store, have 1459 01:21:40,120 --> 01:21:43,320 Speaker 1: to interact with people, have to send your kid to school. 1460 01:21:43,360 --> 01:21:47,200 Speaker 1: Any of this culture that I'm describing and these ideas, 1461 01:21:47,960 --> 01:21:50,000 Speaker 1: you're coming into contact with them as as you all know. 1462 01:21:50,120 --> 01:21:52,320 Speaker 1: But that that's why I don't want this to Like 1463 01:21:52,439 --> 01:21:55,880 Speaker 1: I worried that the dial might start to switch on 1464 01:21:55,880 --> 01:21:57,760 Speaker 1: your radio stagment, like oh, he's gonna talk about campus 1465 01:21:57,800 --> 01:22:00,519 Speaker 1: Title nine stuff. Now, this really matters, matters for all 1466 01:22:00,560 --> 01:22:02,720 Speaker 1: of us. That's that's one big part of this. The 1467 01:22:02,760 --> 01:22:05,599 Speaker 1: other part of this is due process, which is where 1468 01:22:05,600 --> 01:22:08,880 Speaker 1: we get to the Betsy Divos discussion. Because you either 1469 01:22:08,920 --> 01:22:12,599 Speaker 1: believe in due process or you don't. And what's happened 1470 01:22:12,640 --> 01:22:16,200 Speaker 1: because the left has decided, and this was an Obama 1471 01:22:16,280 --> 01:22:22,719 Speaker 1: administration initiative. What the left has decided was that Title 1472 01:22:22,800 --> 01:22:26,040 Speaker 1: nine was useful in the culture wars for them, Title 1473 01:22:26,080 --> 01:22:29,439 Speaker 1: nine was useful to propagate the myth of a war 1474 01:22:29,560 --> 01:22:34,280 Speaker 1: on women. It was useful to uh get the base 1475 01:22:34,439 --> 01:22:38,320 Speaker 1: all excited about and I'm excited as an aggravated and 1476 01:22:38,400 --> 01:22:44,080 Speaker 1: angry and and and furious over the treatment of women 1477 01:22:44,080 --> 01:22:50,560 Speaker 1: on campus, over the plague of sexual assaults on campuses, 1478 01:22:50,600 --> 01:22:53,719 Speaker 1: which there are still these statistics out there that you'll 1479 01:22:53,720 --> 01:22:57,840 Speaker 1: hear that sexual assault on campus is one in five 1480 01:22:57,880 --> 01:22:59,720 Speaker 1: women will be sexually assaulted. And then when you learn 1481 01:22:59,760 --> 01:23:02,840 Speaker 1: whether statistic comes from, you find out that it includes 1482 01:23:03,040 --> 01:23:08,360 Speaker 1: unwanted advances, uh, aggressive sexual comments as a whole slew 1483 01:23:08,360 --> 01:23:11,559 Speaker 1: of things that sexual assault is used. And they do 1484 01:23:11,600 --> 01:23:14,679 Speaker 1: this intentionally, very broad term. Most people here and they're 1485 01:23:14,680 --> 01:23:17,160 Speaker 1: thinking of a physical assault. They're thinking of of rape 1486 01:23:17,240 --> 01:23:21,360 Speaker 1: or something that is a physical assault that falls into 1487 01:23:22,160 --> 01:23:28,599 Speaker 1: those categories of a sexual crime. But the Left, because 1488 01:23:28,640 --> 01:23:30,400 Speaker 1: they want to make this seem like a much bigger issue, 1489 01:23:30,439 --> 01:23:35,280 Speaker 1: because they still even in you have more women going 1490 01:23:35,360 --> 01:23:37,800 Speaker 1: to college than men, more women getting college degrees than 1491 01:23:37,840 --> 01:23:39,960 Speaker 1: men do. You've got more women than ever in the marketplace, 1492 01:23:40,000 --> 01:23:45,439 Speaker 1: and they still cling to this myth of a war 1493 01:23:45,520 --> 01:23:51,920 Speaker 1: on women and a misogynist, sexist, evil Republican party. And 1494 01:23:52,000 --> 01:23:56,479 Speaker 1: that's why the rape Frenzy on Campus, which is borrowing 1495 01:23:56,479 --> 01:23:59,519 Speaker 1: a title of a book that was written earlier this year, 1496 01:23:59,520 --> 01:24:02,120 Speaker 1: actually the author on to talk about this, the rape 1497 01:24:02,120 --> 01:24:05,400 Speaker 1: friends on Campus, is politically useful for Democrats. So the 1498 01:24:05,400 --> 01:24:10,080 Speaker 1: Obama administration issued this guidance using Title nine, which just 1499 01:24:10,080 --> 01:24:14,880 Speaker 1: says no discrimination against women. Basically, they took it even 1500 01:24:14,920 --> 01:24:21,920 Speaker 1: further to adjust the evidentiary standard for somebody accused of 1501 01:24:21,960 --> 01:24:27,640 Speaker 1: a sexual assault on a college campus. Now, why the 1502 01:24:27,680 --> 01:24:30,479 Speaker 1: federal government, well, I've explained to you what it should 1503 01:24:30,520 --> 01:24:33,320 Speaker 1: be surprising until we go through what I just described 1504 01:24:33,360 --> 01:24:36,000 Speaker 1: to you that the Obama administration would make this a 1505 01:24:36,080 --> 01:24:39,519 Speaker 1: priority because one sexual assault in the context of an 1506 01:24:39,520 --> 01:24:42,719 Speaker 1: actual physical assault and or a rape is a crime, 1507 01:24:42,760 --> 01:24:45,840 Speaker 1: a very serious crime, a felony, and as prosecutable under 1508 01:24:46,080 --> 01:24:49,559 Speaker 1: the law in all fifty states. So why would the 1509 01:24:49,600 --> 01:24:52,120 Speaker 1: federal government feel the need to weigh in on how 1510 01:24:52,240 --> 01:24:56,200 Speaker 1: campuses are handling this as a non criminal matter? I meaning, 1511 01:24:56,200 --> 01:25:00,280 Speaker 1: they are setting up these these tribunals, and that's what 1512 01:25:00,320 --> 01:25:04,840 Speaker 1: they are, that do not have due process protections, that 1513 01:25:05,000 --> 01:25:09,680 Speaker 1: do not allow the accused to call witnesses either to 1514 01:25:10,040 --> 01:25:13,879 Speaker 1: contradic either to cross examine them, or to call witnesses 1515 01:25:13,880 --> 01:25:18,480 Speaker 1: for their defense. And are are really just echo chambers 1516 01:25:19,360 --> 01:25:25,760 Speaker 1: of a hyperbolic and frenzied mentality that women are just 1517 01:25:26,240 --> 01:25:28,720 Speaker 1: that they're being attacked on campuses all the time. No 1518 01:25:28,760 --> 01:25:32,679 Speaker 1: one's doing anything about it. And if you just before 1519 01:25:32,680 --> 01:25:34,360 Speaker 1: I get into te to a Voss and why I 1520 01:25:34,400 --> 01:25:36,120 Speaker 1: think what he's doing is so important, I mean, you 1521 01:25:36,200 --> 01:25:39,240 Speaker 1: hear some of these stories. I mean, there's a guy 1522 01:25:39,280 --> 01:25:45,000 Speaker 1: at University of Southern California. He's an athlete, and if 1523 01:25:45,040 --> 01:25:49,080 Speaker 1: you're an athlete. It should be noted that minority males 1524 01:25:49,160 --> 01:25:52,920 Speaker 1: have been disproportionately negatively affected by this new guidance from 1525 01:25:52,920 --> 01:25:59,120 Speaker 1: the Obama administration on how campuses have to handle sexual assaults. Oh, 1526 01:25:59,280 --> 01:26:01,639 Speaker 1: I mentioned the chain in the evidentiary standard. I don't 1527 01:26:01,680 --> 01:26:04,479 Speaker 1: want to just leave that leave that out there. Uh, 1528 01:26:04,520 --> 01:26:08,000 Speaker 1: it went to a preponderance of the evidence. So if 1529 01:26:08,040 --> 01:26:11,839 Speaker 1: they think that you most you know, you mostly sexually 1530 01:26:11,880 --> 01:26:14,640 Speaker 1: assaulted somebody, like it's like fifty if they had to 1531 01:26:14,680 --> 01:26:17,320 Speaker 1: put a number on it, then they're going to take 1532 01:26:17,360 --> 01:26:20,880 Speaker 1: action against you as though you did sexually assault somebody, 1533 01:26:20,880 --> 01:26:23,160 Speaker 1: which means you can get expelled from school. It's on 1534 01:26:23,200 --> 01:26:26,760 Speaker 1: your record, and even if you're never criminally charged, you 1535 01:26:26,800 --> 01:26:31,200 Speaker 1: are for the purposes of our society, for your career prospects, 1536 01:26:31,200 --> 01:26:34,320 Speaker 1: for your reputation, for your life, maybe not your freedom, 1537 01:26:34,360 --> 01:26:36,680 Speaker 1: but for all the other aspects of your life. You 1538 01:26:36,680 --> 01:26:42,120 Speaker 1: can be branded a rapist with without ever standing trial, 1539 01:26:42,200 --> 01:26:47,120 Speaker 1: having the right to defend yourself. And this is where 1540 01:26:47,160 --> 01:26:49,840 Speaker 1: you also run into people that that becomes a very 1541 01:26:49,880 --> 01:26:57,680 Speaker 1: uncomfortable conversation. But there are no serious felonies that have 1542 01:26:57,920 --> 01:27:00,640 Speaker 1: as high of a false accuse A shouldn't rate as 1543 01:27:00,640 --> 01:27:03,680 Speaker 1: there are four sexual assault crimes, meaning that there's a 1544 01:27:03,680 --> 01:27:07,439 Speaker 1: pretty high percentage. I think now I'm forgetting the exact number, 1545 01:27:07,479 --> 01:27:09,040 Speaker 1: so do not quote me on and I will try 1546 01:27:09,080 --> 01:27:11,519 Speaker 1: to check and get back to it. But it's something 1547 01:27:11,520 --> 01:27:14,200 Speaker 1: along lines of eight to ten, so roughly one in ten. 1548 01:27:14,280 --> 01:27:16,559 Speaker 1: Now that's that means that a lot of sexual assault claims, 1549 01:27:16,680 --> 01:27:17,960 Speaker 1: and a lot of them, I know a lot of 1550 01:27:17,960 --> 01:27:21,679 Speaker 1: them are never filed. And but if one and ten 1551 01:27:21,880 --> 01:27:26,120 Speaker 1: are innocent people being accused of of a very serious crime, 1552 01:27:26,160 --> 01:27:27,720 Speaker 1: that they could lose their freedom in their life and 1553 01:27:27,760 --> 01:27:34,320 Speaker 1: their livelihood over uh is high right of you would 1554 01:27:34,360 --> 01:27:38,200 Speaker 1: think that there should be protections in place, But they've 1555 01:27:38,320 --> 01:27:41,320 Speaker 1: skewed that the pendulum has swung so far in the 1556 01:27:41,360 --> 01:27:44,240 Speaker 1: other direction that you have things like this University of 1557 01:27:44,280 --> 01:27:47,040 Speaker 1: Southern California. This is a well known, well not as 1558 01:27:47,040 --> 01:27:48,640 Speaker 1: well known as it should be, a case where you 1559 01:27:48,720 --> 01:27:54,080 Speaker 1: had a woman who was quote playfully rough housing with 1560 01:27:54,080 --> 01:27:58,080 Speaker 1: her boyfriend. They're both athletes. But somebody saw this and 1561 01:27:58,120 --> 01:28:02,880 Speaker 1: reported it to the diniversity's Title nine coordinator, which is 1562 01:28:02,920 --> 01:28:05,160 Speaker 1: now a job on on all these campus I think 1563 01:28:05,760 --> 01:28:07,800 Speaker 1: I think Harvard has like a few dozen people doing this. 1564 01:28:07,840 --> 01:28:10,600 Speaker 1: So this is people get paid to be Title nine coordinators, 1565 01:28:10,840 --> 01:28:14,759 Speaker 1: like people get paid to be diversity coordinators on campus. 1566 01:28:14,880 --> 01:28:17,040 Speaker 1: I remember having to meet with the diversity coordinators on 1567 01:28:17,080 --> 01:28:20,080 Speaker 1: my own college campus many years ago, back when people 1568 01:28:20,080 --> 01:28:24,120 Speaker 1: were riding, you know, riding on on horses to get 1569 01:28:24,120 --> 01:28:27,559 Speaker 1: to school before the combustion engine and all that. But 1570 01:28:28,800 --> 01:28:32,160 Speaker 1: that I had to meet with the diversity coordinators because 1571 01:28:32,200 --> 01:28:34,200 Speaker 1: we were throwing a party. We were going to serve tequila, 1572 01:28:34,200 --> 01:28:36,280 Speaker 1: and there were rumors that some people might wear sombreros 1573 01:28:36,280 --> 01:28:38,280 Speaker 1: and that was a cultural appropriation and that was very 1574 01:28:38,360 --> 01:28:41,320 Speaker 1: unacceptable to the campus student body. But people get paid 1575 01:28:41,320 --> 01:28:44,920 Speaker 1: to do this anyway. This University of Southern California cases 1576 01:28:44,960 --> 01:28:47,400 Speaker 1: that the guy and the girl are are rough housing, 1577 01:28:47,720 --> 01:28:49,880 Speaker 1: somebody sees it and reports it. Okay, Look, I could 1578 01:28:49,920 --> 01:28:54,320 Speaker 1: understand that sometimes women there, you know, there's battered wife syndrome, 1579 01:28:54,360 --> 01:28:59,040 Speaker 1: which applies also a non marital relationships too. And uh, 1580 01:28:59,280 --> 01:29:01,200 Speaker 1: maybe they you know, they saw him, they didn't like fun. 1581 01:29:01,920 --> 01:29:06,840 Speaker 1: But the woman then they go through this whole situation. Uh, 1582 01:29:06,880 --> 01:29:10,240 Speaker 1: and university administrators met with her and she said, no, 1583 01:29:10,280 --> 01:29:11,880 Speaker 1: he didn't We were just playing around. It was fine, 1584 01:29:11,880 --> 01:29:13,840 Speaker 1: nothing happened, he didn't do anything. So she's saying no 1585 01:29:13,960 --> 01:29:17,240 Speaker 1: crime was committed. He's obviously saying no crimes committed, no 1586 01:29:17,320 --> 01:29:24,679 Speaker 1: assault happened. The university didn't care. The university just did 1587 01:29:24,720 --> 01:29:29,519 Speaker 1: not care. In fact, they uh kicked him out of 1588 01:29:29,560 --> 01:29:32,280 Speaker 1: the school. They just kicked him out of the school 1589 01:29:32,840 --> 01:29:35,120 Speaker 1: because they figured that, you know, well, yeah, we we 1590 01:29:35,160 --> 01:29:36,760 Speaker 1: think that there was something going on here, so you're 1591 01:29:36,760 --> 01:29:40,320 Speaker 1: expelled now. And that's just that's just one example. Actually 1592 01:29:40,360 --> 01:29:42,280 Speaker 1: at my own college, at Amer's College, there was a 1593 01:29:42,320 --> 01:29:45,080 Speaker 1: student who was expelled even though he presented evidence that 1594 01:29:45,200 --> 01:29:49,639 Speaker 1: he was in fact sexually assaulted. There is a case 1595 01:29:50,400 --> 01:29:54,080 Speaker 1: after case after case students who were saying this happened 1596 01:29:54,080 --> 01:29:57,240 Speaker 1: in Colorado State, and a hat tip Robbie Suave at 1597 01:29:57,240 --> 01:30:02,719 Speaker 1: Reason dot com for uh pulling together some of these cases. Um, 1598 01:30:02,760 --> 01:30:04,759 Speaker 1: the Amber's case, I knew abotuse it was my own school, 1599 01:30:04,840 --> 01:30:07,479 Speaker 1: and it was really you know this, This guy is 1600 01:30:07,560 --> 01:30:10,320 Speaker 1: essentially incredibly drunk. The female in the case is not 1601 01:30:10,400 --> 01:30:16,080 Speaker 1: drunk at all, and they engage in relations as many 1602 01:30:16,160 --> 01:30:20,599 Speaker 1: college students do, and then she's upset about it later on. 1603 01:30:20,840 --> 01:30:23,640 Speaker 1: He doesn't use any force, but she I don't even 1604 01:30:23,680 --> 01:30:25,280 Speaker 1: know how they got but but he's the guy, so 1605 01:30:25,360 --> 01:30:30,519 Speaker 1: he's guilty. It's he was drunk, she was not. He 1606 01:30:30,560 --> 01:30:34,760 Speaker 1: didn't force anything, but somehow he's guilty of I mean, 1607 01:30:35,200 --> 01:30:37,240 Speaker 1: you read the transcript of the of what the case 1608 01:30:37,280 --> 01:30:40,200 Speaker 1: and how when you just go to yourself, my gosh. 1609 01:30:40,479 --> 01:30:43,040 Speaker 1: The truth is that the system established by the prior 1610 01:30:43,080 --> 01:30:49,400 Speaker 1: administration has failed to many students, survivors, victims of a 1611 01:30:49,479 --> 01:30:52,960 Speaker 1: lack of due process, and campus administrators have all told 1612 01:30:53,040 --> 01:30:57,720 Speaker 1: me that the current approach does a disservice to everyone involved. 1613 01:30:58,920 --> 01:31:02,639 Speaker 1: That's why we must do better, because the current approach 1614 01:31:03,040 --> 01:31:08,880 Speaker 1: isn't working. This system failed. System has generated hundreds upon 1615 01:31:09,000 --> 01:31:11,920 Speaker 1: hundreds of cases in the Department's Office for Civil Rights, 1616 01:31:12,800 --> 01:31:16,920 Speaker 1: mostly filed by students who reported sexual misconduct and believe 1617 01:31:17,000 --> 01:31:23,599 Speaker 1: their schools let them down. There you have some Education 1618 01:31:23,640 --> 01:31:28,720 Speaker 1: Secretary Betsy Divos talking about why it is that the 1619 01:31:28,760 --> 01:31:31,880 Speaker 1: administration is taking a different position than the Obama administration 1620 01:31:31,920 --> 01:31:36,920 Speaker 1: on this, and that is then responded to by leftist activists. Um. 1621 01:31:37,040 --> 01:31:39,400 Speaker 1: I see this, this person who is the co founder 1622 01:31:39,439 --> 01:31:44,440 Speaker 1: of the New Agenda, who has a substantial Twitter following, 1623 01:31:44,520 --> 01:31:50,600 Speaker 1: for whatever that's worth. Um saying that that this is 1624 01:31:50,920 --> 01:31:55,360 Speaker 1: eliminating due process, but that this is eliminating protections for 1625 01:31:55,560 --> 01:32:00,120 Speaker 1: the LGBTQ community. That divoce quote is wiping away out 1626 01:32:00,120 --> 01:32:03,559 Speaker 1: of nine protections for college timeline, protections for college sexual assault. 1627 01:32:04,240 --> 01:32:06,680 Speaker 1: It's just the next step on our path to authoritarianism. 1628 01:32:06,760 --> 01:32:12,000 Speaker 1: Hashtags stop Betsy. These people are once again delusional, one 1629 01:32:12,040 --> 01:32:13,720 Speaker 1: of the best words I can use to describe the 1630 01:32:13,960 --> 01:32:16,960 Speaker 1: Democrat left these days. She's not wiping away did She's 1631 01:32:17,000 --> 01:32:22,920 Speaker 1: not wiping away Tunnal nine. She's just not forcing schools 1632 01:32:23,200 --> 01:32:26,640 Speaker 1: under Title nine pressure. Because part of Title nine is 1633 01:32:26,720 --> 01:32:28,719 Speaker 1: that if if you don't do what the federal government says, 1634 01:32:28,720 --> 01:32:31,040 Speaker 1: you can lose federal funds. So it's it's got some teeth. 1635 01:32:32,200 --> 01:32:34,360 Speaker 1: This is that's why it led to uh, you know, 1636 01:32:34,479 --> 01:32:38,640 Speaker 1: to even out the spending on college athletics. You had 1637 01:32:38,680 --> 01:32:41,760 Speaker 1: all these different wrestling programs, and the ones that really 1638 01:32:41,760 --> 01:32:44,800 Speaker 1: got hit are the sports that don't have, you know, 1639 01:32:44,880 --> 01:32:47,040 Speaker 1: huge audiences and aren't big draws right over the union. 1640 01:32:47,040 --> 01:32:49,040 Speaker 1: You're never gonna get rid of like Big ten football 1641 01:32:49,120 --> 01:32:51,920 Speaker 1: or whatever, but you you can lose a lot of 1642 01:32:51,960 --> 01:32:55,599 Speaker 1: other sports. The squash team. Oh gosh, they're getting rid 1643 01:32:55,640 --> 01:32:57,360 Speaker 1: of the squash team. What are we gonna do? Now? 1644 01:32:58,439 --> 01:33:01,800 Speaker 1: Makes me sad on the inside. Uh, But yeah, that's 1645 01:33:03,080 --> 01:33:05,960 Speaker 1: that's the reality here, is that she's just that Betsy 1646 01:33:06,040 --> 01:33:08,320 Speaker 1: DeVos is saying that we're not going to have the 1647 01:33:08,320 --> 01:33:11,400 Speaker 1: federal government now telling campuses to set up these tribunals. 1648 01:33:11,400 --> 01:33:16,800 Speaker 1: They're completely ridiculous. They're stacked against the defendant and it's 1649 01:33:16,840 --> 01:33:20,120 Speaker 1: all because they're witch it's witch hunts. These are witch hunts. 1650 01:33:20,800 --> 01:33:23,639 Speaker 1: They've created a frenzied atmosphere on the campus where men 1651 01:33:23,840 --> 01:33:29,160 Speaker 1: are all sexual predators in waiting. And this plays well 1652 01:33:29,320 --> 01:33:33,479 Speaker 1: with Democrat activists and people who like to divide. I mean, 1653 01:33:33,640 --> 01:33:35,519 Speaker 1: it's amazing in this day and age that that it 1654 01:33:35,600 --> 01:33:38,880 Speaker 1: still works. But look at Obama and Romney. The binders. 1655 01:33:39,000 --> 01:33:40,760 Speaker 1: Romney had binders full of women. And what did they 1656 01:33:40,840 --> 01:33:42,720 Speaker 1: mean the guy who was just talking, wasn't he had 1657 01:33:42,800 --> 01:33:44,719 Speaker 1: nothing to do with anything? Oh? You binders full of women? 1658 01:33:44,760 --> 01:33:48,200 Speaker 1: War on women, War on women. This is idiocy, But 1659 01:33:48,360 --> 01:33:53,200 Speaker 1: unfortunately idiocy is often an effective appealing to people's idiocy 1660 01:33:53,320 --> 01:33:56,719 Speaker 1: is effective when you're talking to idiots. So the system 1661 01:33:56,800 --> 01:33:59,400 Speaker 1: isn't working. And another key point that she makes is 1662 01:33:59,479 --> 01:34:02,879 Speaker 1: that if everything is well, let me let miss Divas 1663 01:34:02,960 --> 01:34:06,960 Speaker 1: make it herself. A better way is also being more 1664 01:34:07,080 --> 01:34:11,040 Speaker 1: precise in the definition of sexual misconduct. Schools have been 1665 01:34:11,160 --> 01:34:15,960 Speaker 1: compelled by Washington to enforce ambiguous and incredibly broad definitions 1666 01:34:16,000 --> 01:34:20,200 Speaker 1: of assault and harassment. Too many cases involve students and 1667 01:34:20,320 --> 01:34:24,759 Speaker 1: faculty who have faced investigation and punishment simply for speaking 1668 01:34:24,800 --> 01:34:30,599 Speaker 1: their minds or teaching their classes. Any perceived offense can 1669 01:34:30,680 --> 01:34:36,040 Speaker 1: become a full blown Title nine investigation. But if everything 1670 01:34:36,200 --> 01:34:42,600 Speaker 1: is harassment, then nothing is she is correct. However, what 1671 01:34:42,680 --> 01:34:44,760 Speaker 1: I should add to that is this has nothing to 1672 01:34:44,800 --> 01:34:49,280 Speaker 1: do with stopping harassment. Title nine as a tool on 1673 01:34:49,439 --> 01:34:56,559 Speaker 1: college campuses is largely used as a companion weapon against 1674 01:34:56,720 --> 01:35:01,719 Speaker 1: free speech on campus. So by using Title nine pressure 1675 01:35:01,800 --> 01:35:06,520 Speaker 1: they can enforce a lot of this gender warfare, transgender 1676 01:35:06,680 --> 01:35:12,160 Speaker 1: rights agenda stuff as a function of federal mandate. Jean Bucket. 1677 01:35:12,200 --> 01:35:18,960 Speaker 1: If you're wondering how crazy the Title nine expansion has 1678 01:35:19,040 --> 01:35:22,840 Speaker 1: gotten in terms of using tele mine as an enforcement 1679 01:35:23,040 --> 01:35:27,240 Speaker 1: mechanism of progressive orthodoxy, which is what it has turned into. 1680 01:35:27,400 --> 01:35:31,280 Speaker 1: For quite some time on the Obama administration made this 1681 01:35:31,360 --> 01:35:33,800 Speaker 1: an issue. I mean the White House, President Obama, Vice 1682 01:35:33,840 --> 01:35:35,880 Speaker 1: President Biden. They were out there pushing this. This was 1683 01:35:35,960 --> 01:35:42,640 Speaker 1: important to them. It has resulted in Title mine investigations 1684 01:35:42,760 --> 01:35:50,320 Speaker 1: for making jokes about the dead guerrilla Harambee. That's that's 1685 01:35:50,360 --> 01:35:55,040 Speaker 1: somehow is was considered a Title nine violation. How I 1686 01:35:55,120 --> 01:36:00,800 Speaker 1: have absolutely no idea, but it did result in a yeah, 1687 01:36:00,880 --> 01:36:04,200 Speaker 1: the universe. Oh that was you, mass Amherst. Oh there 1688 01:36:04,320 --> 01:36:08,040 Speaker 1: we go, you mass amirs down the street from my 1689 01:36:08,120 --> 01:36:10,960 Speaker 1: own little quaint college. You know, I will tell you 1690 01:36:11,040 --> 01:36:16,400 Speaker 1: that this, this mentality, and this whole um, really what 1691 01:36:16,520 --> 01:36:21,200 Speaker 1: you have are people exploiting the psychology of the psychology 1692 01:36:21,240 --> 01:36:27,120 Speaker 1: of the victimology movement, which is a very profound force 1693 01:36:27,320 --> 01:36:29,320 Speaker 1: in our culture. Everyone these days wants to be Oh, 1694 01:36:29,320 --> 01:36:32,200 Speaker 1: I'm a victim. Was something terrible is happening? I'm a victim. 1695 01:36:32,320 --> 01:36:35,439 Speaker 1: Somebody give me stuff, or do what I say, or 1696 01:36:35,560 --> 01:36:37,080 Speaker 1: you have to say what I want you to say, 1697 01:36:37,160 --> 01:36:40,240 Speaker 1: because otherwise you're victimizing me. Wait what I thought we 1698 01:36:40,320 --> 01:36:44,479 Speaker 1: lived in a free society. No, not so much. Not 1699 01:36:44,680 --> 01:36:49,160 Speaker 1: so much. At Northwestern University, for example, you had a 1700 01:36:49,320 --> 01:36:55,639 Speaker 1: professor who was expressing skepticism about rules that don't allow 1701 01:36:55,840 --> 01:37:00,760 Speaker 1: sexual relationships between students and professors. She got investigated under 1702 01:37:00,800 --> 01:37:04,599 Speaker 1: Title nine. So now you can't. I mean, these are 1703 01:37:04,640 --> 01:37:08,240 Speaker 1: all consenting adults there, everyone's age of consent. We're talking 1704 01:37:08,400 --> 01:37:12,920 Speaker 1: you know, people who are eighteen and up? Yeah? Should 1705 01:37:12,960 --> 01:37:15,360 Speaker 1: you should the university have a rule against you know, 1706 01:37:15,400 --> 01:37:17,439 Speaker 1: you can't have a relationship with a professor that you're 1707 01:37:17,439 --> 01:37:19,599 Speaker 1: taking their class, because of course there's there's an anti 1708 01:37:19,680 --> 01:37:24,240 Speaker 1: competitive in or also the possibility of retaliation with your grades, 1709 01:37:24,360 --> 01:37:27,160 Speaker 1: or you know, getting an A when you don't deserve one. Um. 1710 01:37:27,840 --> 01:37:30,960 Speaker 1: But if ever, if we're talking about consending adults, I mean, 1711 01:37:31,040 --> 01:37:32,760 Speaker 1: you know, I think it's at least a discussion that 1712 01:37:32,840 --> 01:37:36,200 Speaker 1: can be had, you know, I mean, if you're if 1713 01:37:36,240 --> 01:37:39,439 Speaker 1: you're a if you're a biology major, no, I mean really, 1714 01:37:39,479 --> 01:37:43,160 Speaker 1: you know, if you're a Women's in Gender studies major 1715 01:37:43,920 --> 01:37:47,559 Speaker 1: guy and you're one of one guy in the class, 1716 01:37:47,720 --> 01:37:50,720 Speaker 1: and you know there's a female professor who's teaching over 1717 01:37:50,800 --> 01:37:54,360 Speaker 1: in the engineering labs. For the purposes of our discussion 1718 01:37:54,400 --> 01:37:57,800 Speaker 1: here will say she's an engineering professor. Uh, and you 1719 01:37:57,880 --> 01:38:01,840 Speaker 1: know you're not her student. Does the university have some 1720 01:38:02,000 --> 01:38:04,759 Speaker 1: universities don't ban that. I mean my college didn't, for example, 1721 01:38:04,840 --> 01:38:07,040 Speaker 1: So you know, but you can get in trouble for 1722 01:38:07,120 --> 01:38:09,400 Speaker 1: having a discussion about that at ed North. Oh. No, 1723 01:38:09,520 --> 01:38:13,760 Speaker 1: it's terrible, It's just nonsense, right. And you may also 1724 01:38:13,800 --> 01:38:16,400 Speaker 1: be thinking how big a deal is this buck? I mean, 1725 01:38:16,479 --> 01:38:18,360 Speaker 1: think if you if you're somebody who's caught in the 1726 01:38:18,400 --> 01:38:22,160 Speaker 1: crosshairs and you get fired and your reputation is destroyed. 1727 01:38:23,040 --> 01:38:25,839 Speaker 1: And in the in the instances where it's a sexual 1728 01:38:25,960 --> 01:38:28,600 Speaker 1: offense of any kind, and if you're kicked out of 1729 01:38:28,640 --> 01:38:32,240 Speaker 1: school because of sexual misconduct, and I don't even just 1730 01:38:32,360 --> 01:38:37,519 Speaker 1: mean sexual misconduct amounting to a rape accusation, I'm talking 1731 01:38:37,520 --> 01:38:39,280 Speaker 1: about sexually. If you're kicked out of school for any 1732 01:38:39,320 --> 01:38:42,080 Speaker 1: kind of sexual misconduct, that's gonna follow you around forever. 1733 01:38:42,120 --> 01:38:43,920 Speaker 1: I mean, it's gonna affect your job, your life, and 1734 01:38:44,000 --> 01:38:49,200 Speaker 1: it's going to destroy your reputation. So if you get 1735 01:38:49,280 --> 01:38:51,600 Speaker 1: kicked out and you didn't do anything wrong, isn't that 1736 01:38:51,680 --> 01:38:54,840 Speaker 1: a pretty terrible thing to happen? And isn't there also 1737 01:38:54,920 --> 01:38:57,120 Speaker 1: a mentality And this is for for those of you 1738 01:38:57,200 --> 01:38:59,720 Speaker 1: who are still saying buck this is mostly campus, there 1739 01:38:59,800 --> 01:39:03,280 Speaker 1: is a mentality in the Democrat Party and it's it's 1740 01:39:03,479 --> 01:39:06,040 Speaker 1: forget about party affiliation. Put that aside for a straia 1741 01:39:06,080 --> 01:39:08,320 Speaker 1: for a second. Once again, strike that one counselor from 1742 01:39:08,320 --> 01:39:11,720 Speaker 1: the record, number two taking a mulligan here. There is 1743 01:39:11,760 --> 01:39:15,880 Speaker 1: a mentality among progressives, among the left, among liberals, if 1744 01:39:15,920 --> 01:39:17,479 Speaker 1: you want to call them that, I don't like that 1745 01:39:17,680 --> 01:39:20,640 Speaker 1: term for them because they're anti liberty. But they have 1746 01:39:21,240 --> 01:39:28,479 Speaker 1: in a in an intentional miscategorization misnomer. They have called 1747 01:39:28,560 --> 01:39:30,640 Speaker 1: themselves liberal for some time now when people refer to 1748 01:39:30,640 --> 01:39:32,760 Speaker 1: them as that way. But the liberal left in this 1749 01:39:32,920 --> 01:39:41,960 Speaker 1: country um is very dedicated to the notion that if 1750 01:39:42,040 --> 01:39:44,560 Speaker 1: you have to throw some innocent if you have to 1751 01:39:44,640 --> 01:39:47,479 Speaker 1: ruin some innocent guys lives to send a message to 1752 01:39:47,840 --> 01:39:51,280 Speaker 1: you know, the rest of male humanity on this one, 1753 01:39:51,320 --> 01:39:56,040 Speaker 1: that's fine. Ezra Klein, I will never forget this. He 1754 01:39:56,320 --> 01:39:59,320 Speaker 1: is a He is a darling of the progressive left, 1755 01:40:00,280 --> 01:40:03,880 Speaker 1: very tight with the Obama administration. He kind of had 1756 01:40:03,880 --> 01:40:06,880 Speaker 1: a show on MSNBC. You know, I think they like 1757 01:40:07,080 --> 01:40:11,280 Speaker 1: him a lot because progressives like to talk about science 1758 01:40:11,360 --> 01:40:12,960 Speaker 1: and nerding out about things. And if you're going to 1759 01:40:13,000 --> 01:40:16,000 Speaker 1: talk about somebody who at least appears to be nerd 1760 01:40:16,080 --> 01:40:18,719 Speaker 1: ing out, I think he he looks like he looks 1761 01:40:18,760 --> 01:40:21,040 Speaker 1: like he's nerding out, So that must mean he's really 1762 01:40:21,120 --> 01:40:26,639 Speaker 1: really smart. But he openly wrote when Obama came out 1763 01:40:26,720 --> 01:40:30,600 Speaker 1: with this whole guidance that if this means that some 1764 01:40:30,680 --> 01:40:35,360 Speaker 1: innocent guys, you know, get get you know, get the 1765 01:40:36,479 --> 01:40:38,000 Speaker 1: shorter end of the stick here, If this means that 1766 01:40:38,040 --> 01:40:42,040 Speaker 1: some mencent guys get convicted by these campus tribunals for rape. 1767 01:40:42,080 --> 01:40:44,400 Speaker 1: So be it. It's the price we pay for protecting 1768 01:40:44,439 --> 01:40:48,439 Speaker 1: women on campus. It's a horrifying thing to say. I mean, 1769 01:40:48,960 --> 01:40:52,439 Speaker 1: I understand that the innocent get the innocent sometimes get 1770 01:40:52,520 --> 01:40:55,360 Speaker 1: prosecuted and convicted, even in our criminal justice system, but 1771 01:40:55,439 --> 01:40:57,120 Speaker 1: I would never say, well, you know that today not 1772 01:40:57,240 --> 01:40:58,759 Speaker 1: to make an omit, you gotta break a few eggs. 1773 01:40:59,800 --> 01:41:06,040 Speaker 1: That is how far this psychological rot has spread that 1774 01:41:06,160 --> 01:41:09,080 Speaker 1: people will even say that openly, that innocent people with 1775 01:41:09,240 --> 01:41:11,680 Speaker 1: innocent men, it's all. It's always it's about men, it's 1776 01:41:11,680 --> 01:41:14,920 Speaker 1: about targeting men. Innocent men will suffer because of this, 1777 01:41:16,439 --> 01:41:21,000 Speaker 1: and it's just is all a part of the the 1778 01:41:21,160 --> 01:41:25,920 Speaker 1: gender identity politics that the left is is constantly engaging in. 1779 01:41:26,160 --> 01:41:29,240 Speaker 1: So what what does this amount to? It just is 1780 01:41:29,240 --> 01:41:31,400 Speaker 1: a change in the tone, a change in the conversation. 1781 01:41:31,479 --> 01:41:37,360 Speaker 1: Betsy DeVos, Education Secretary is saying, you know what, We're 1782 01:41:37,400 --> 01:41:39,200 Speaker 1: not going to the federal government is not going to 1783 01:41:39,560 --> 01:41:45,720 Speaker 1: mandate that colleges have have these courts in place, not 1784 01:41:45,880 --> 01:41:48,800 Speaker 1: really courts, but whatever. You know, these tribunals, these proceedings 1785 01:41:50,120 --> 01:41:54,880 Speaker 1: that favor the accuser over the accused, because the accused 1786 01:41:55,240 --> 01:41:59,599 Speaker 1: is almost always a man, because if we don't, we're 1787 01:41:59,600 --> 01:42:02,160 Speaker 1: gonna get at federal funding polled, We're not going to 1788 01:42:02,240 --> 01:42:06,320 Speaker 1: do that anymore. That has led to outrage that hashtags 1789 01:42:06,439 --> 01:42:11,160 Speaker 1: stop Betsy or you know, yeah, stop Betsy. Oh, it's 1790 01:42:11,280 --> 01:42:16,640 Speaker 1: so terrible. This is uh, this is complete nonsense. And 1791 01:42:16,800 --> 01:42:18,880 Speaker 1: I should note that at a time when you have 1792 01:42:19,040 --> 01:42:23,920 Speaker 1: Democrats openly applauding law breaking in the form of illegal 1793 01:42:23,920 --> 01:42:30,439 Speaker 1: immigration and continuing to cover for Obama's lawless docta decision 1794 01:42:30,520 --> 01:42:35,719 Speaker 1: in the first place, that there can be due process 1795 01:42:35,960 --> 01:42:42,960 Speaker 1: protections that get swept away for something as serious as 1796 01:42:43,000 --> 01:42:46,280 Speaker 1: a charge of sexual assault against the young man, it 1797 01:42:46,600 --> 01:42:51,840 Speaker 1: is unconscionable that that would be allowed to continue. It 1798 01:42:51,960 --> 01:42:55,479 Speaker 1: is unconscionable. But for the left, the the processes, the 1799 01:42:55,640 --> 01:43:01,160 Speaker 1: rights of the individual are swept away a by the 1800 01:43:01,960 --> 01:43:06,519 Speaker 1: the political necessity of continuing this theme. I there's a 1801 01:43:06,520 --> 01:43:09,360 Speaker 1: war on women, there's a there's a rape cris rape culture. 1802 01:43:09,400 --> 01:43:11,719 Speaker 1: It's what they call there's a rape culture on campus, 1803 01:43:12,320 --> 01:43:14,200 Speaker 1: as though there's just all these guys around raping people 1804 01:43:14,240 --> 01:43:15,720 Speaker 1: all the time. This is what they say, This is 1805 01:43:15,760 --> 01:43:19,920 Speaker 1: what they believe. Is not it is not the case. 1806 01:43:20,560 --> 01:43:23,599 Speaker 1: It's not to say that there aren't, uh, there aren't 1807 01:43:23,840 --> 01:43:26,880 Speaker 1: cultural deficiencies that exist between the way young men and 1808 01:43:26,920 --> 01:43:29,680 Speaker 1: young women interact on campus, that that is a conversation 1809 01:43:29,760 --> 01:43:32,040 Speaker 1: that might be worth having as well. That is true. 1810 01:43:33,200 --> 01:43:34,800 Speaker 1: And now I start, now I really do start to 1811 01:43:34,800 --> 01:43:36,479 Speaker 1: sound like I'm yelling people to get off my lawn. 1812 01:43:36,600 --> 01:43:40,840 Speaker 1: But way too much binge drinking, way too much. Oh 1813 01:43:40,920 --> 01:43:42,800 Speaker 1: I blacked out? What do we do with each other 1814 01:43:42,920 --> 01:43:45,639 Speaker 1: last night? You know this is not healthy for anyone ever, 1815 01:43:45,760 --> 01:43:49,360 Speaker 1: at any stage in their life. It's not good. And 1816 01:43:49,880 --> 01:43:53,000 Speaker 1: you're you're not a uh you know, you're not a 1817 01:43:54,320 --> 01:43:58,160 Speaker 1: an old You're not playing like hall monitor when you're 1818 01:43:58,160 --> 01:44:00,559 Speaker 1: telling people that don't get blackout drunk and have sexual 1819 01:44:00,600 --> 01:44:03,920 Speaker 1: relations because you're you're putting yourself at risk for all 1820 01:44:04,080 --> 01:44:07,720 Speaker 1: kinds of stuff, including for the gentleman who may be 1821 01:44:07,840 --> 01:44:11,800 Speaker 1: listening after the fact allegations of sexual assault that you 1822 01:44:11,920 --> 01:44:13,880 Speaker 1: may be like what I thought it was fine, I didn't, 1823 01:44:13,880 --> 01:44:17,240 Speaker 1: you know, I didn't it don't put you you you 1824 01:44:17,320 --> 01:44:21,080 Speaker 1: want to avoid putting yourself even in the position and 1825 01:44:21,520 --> 01:44:23,560 Speaker 1: to have those discussions of this, this will tell you 1826 01:44:23,680 --> 01:44:26,479 Speaker 1: how bad it is on the campuses. If you and 1827 01:44:26,760 --> 01:44:29,080 Speaker 1: I know about this in terms of the training that 1828 01:44:29,160 --> 01:44:32,280 Speaker 1: goes on on campus. Because I was a resident counselor, 1829 01:44:33,000 --> 01:44:35,519 Speaker 1: which means it's like an r A, except you don't 1830 01:44:35,520 --> 01:44:37,720 Speaker 1: have a disciplinary function. So I you know, you don't 1831 01:44:37,760 --> 01:44:40,599 Speaker 1: write people up or anything like that, but you're literally 1832 01:44:40,640 --> 01:44:42,439 Speaker 1: a counselor in the dorm. If somebody has a problem, 1833 01:44:42,479 --> 01:44:43,880 Speaker 1: they can come and talk to you. I was one 1834 01:44:43,920 --> 01:44:48,000 Speaker 1: in college. UM So now it's like Buck, you were 1835 01:44:48,040 --> 01:44:50,560 Speaker 1: a hall monitor. No, I really wasn't. Because we're we 1836 01:44:50,760 --> 01:44:52,920 Speaker 1: we didn't. You didn't. You didn't write people up, you 1837 01:44:52,960 --> 01:44:55,120 Speaker 1: didn't send anybody to the dean's office. It was nothing 1838 01:44:55,200 --> 01:44:57,840 Speaker 1: like that. Um. But we had to go through a 1839 01:44:57,920 --> 01:45:02,400 Speaker 1: training process for how to deal with somebody who is homesick. 1840 01:45:02,479 --> 01:45:03,800 Speaker 1: You know, that was a big one. You know, whatever 1841 01:45:03,840 --> 01:45:05,519 Speaker 1: talks about a freshman to show up, they're like, I 1842 01:45:05,640 --> 01:45:07,280 Speaker 1: miss my mom, you know, and I get it. You 1843 01:45:07,320 --> 01:45:09,160 Speaker 1: know that's cool, man. You know, we all we all 1844 01:45:09,200 --> 01:45:11,960 Speaker 1: miss mom or dad or both when we get hopefully 1845 01:45:12,000 --> 01:45:14,120 Speaker 1: both when we get to college. A little bit, right, 1846 01:45:14,160 --> 01:45:15,840 Speaker 1: But it was that kind of training a little bit 1847 01:45:15,880 --> 01:45:18,160 Speaker 1: of that, but there was a lot of diversity training 1848 01:45:18,280 --> 01:45:21,120 Speaker 1: and you know, what, how to interact with young men 1849 01:45:21,160 --> 01:45:24,559 Speaker 1: and young women. And I will never forget in front 1850 01:45:24,600 --> 01:45:26,720 Speaker 1: of the whole staff, our whole staff of people, the 1851 01:45:26,760 --> 01:45:30,759 Speaker 1: resident counselors. This we brought in a wasn't a diversity educator, 1852 01:45:30,840 --> 01:45:33,720 Speaker 1: but it was. It was like a sexual it was 1853 01:45:33,920 --> 01:45:36,960 Speaker 1: a sexual coordinator educator. But that actually sounds like way 1854 01:45:37,200 --> 01:45:39,280 Speaker 1: way more fun um it was, I don't know. It 1855 01:45:39,360 --> 01:45:42,040 Speaker 1: was somebody that was there to talk about male female 1856 01:45:42,040 --> 01:45:47,600 Speaker 1: stuff and and we were talking about the different scenarios 1857 01:45:47,680 --> 01:45:49,560 Speaker 1: that could occur on campus so we'd be aware of 1858 01:45:49,680 --> 01:45:51,519 Speaker 1: them so that if someone came to us to talk 1859 01:45:51,560 --> 01:45:53,479 Speaker 1: about it, we'd know how to discuss it with them 1860 01:45:53,520 --> 01:45:56,160 Speaker 1: and to direct them to the appropriate resources. And in 1861 01:45:56,240 --> 01:45:59,040 Speaker 1: some cases this was very this this did involve very 1862 01:45:59,160 --> 01:46:02,200 Speaker 1: very serious stuff. And I had friends who did have 1863 01:46:02,800 --> 01:46:04,640 Speaker 1: young women confide in them that they really they they 1864 01:46:04,680 --> 01:46:07,479 Speaker 1: had been assaulted. And that stuff happens, no doubt about it. 1865 01:46:07,680 --> 01:46:09,160 Speaker 1: And I think the first thing that has to happen 1866 01:46:09,240 --> 01:46:11,759 Speaker 1: when that happens is somebody goes down to the police 1867 01:46:11,760 --> 01:46:15,240 Speaker 1: station and files a criminal complaint. It is a crime, 1868 01:46:15,400 --> 01:46:17,360 Speaker 1: and it's not something for a college to sit around 1869 01:46:17,400 --> 01:46:20,760 Speaker 1: and you know, think about. It is a crime. But 1870 01:46:21,080 --> 01:46:23,240 Speaker 1: I do remember being in one of these training sessions, 1871 01:46:23,840 --> 01:46:25,599 Speaker 1: and I was surrounded out everybody. I mean, there were 1872 01:46:25,680 --> 01:46:27,720 Speaker 1: like one or two stealth conservatives there with me. I 1873 01:46:27,760 --> 01:46:29,400 Speaker 1: think I never really got to find out. But I 1874 01:46:29,560 --> 01:46:33,080 Speaker 1: kept my politics more or less to myself in college. 1875 01:46:33,680 --> 01:46:35,320 Speaker 1: I mean, I was a member the College Republicans, but 1876 01:46:35,400 --> 01:46:37,320 Speaker 1: I wasn't rubbing it, never in's face all the time. 1877 01:46:37,800 --> 01:46:39,880 Speaker 1: But I remember sitting there on a young woman. Um, 1878 01:46:40,840 --> 01:46:42,880 Speaker 1: they're they're doing all these different scenarios, and the woman 1879 01:46:42,960 --> 01:46:44,800 Speaker 1: raised her hand who I knew, and she said to 1880 01:46:44,960 --> 01:46:50,519 Speaker 1: this sexual coordinator or whatever, uh, you know it, really, 1881 01:46:50,680 --> 01:46:52,400 Speaker 1: you know, you know what another example is of sexual 1882 01:46:52,400 --> 01:46:54,920 Speaker 1: we're doing examples of sexual misconduct. We're coming up with 1883 01:46:54,920 --> 01:46:57,880 Speaker 1: an examples of sexual misconduct. Woman raised her hand and 1884 01:46:58,000 --> 01:47:02,080 Speaker 1: she says, well, if a guy asks like more than 1885 01:47:02,240 --> 01:47:04,600 Speaker 1: twice and he really means it, and like then you 1886 01:47:04,800 --> 01:47:07,120 Speaker 1: and then you sleep with him, like like really you've 1887 01:47:07,160 --> 01:47:12,439 Speaker 1: been raped and the part of it wasn't just and 1888 01:47:12,600 --> 01:47:15,479 Speaker 1: oh my gosh moment where she said that because like 1889 01:47:15,520 --> 01:47:19,040 Speaker 1: this is like two years old, one years old of 1890 01:47:19,080 --> 01:47:22,080 Speaker 1: the time, she thinks that that's a that that qualifies 1891 01:47:22,080 --> 01:47:27,240 Speaker 1: as rape, criminal, serial felony, criminal, sexual. But the diversity 1892 01:47:27,320 --> 01:47:30,160 Speaker 1: sexual coordinator person or whatever was like, yeah, I could 1893 01:47:30,200 --> 01:47:32,599 Speaker 1: see that, and every round the room goes yeah, yeah, 1894 01:47:32,640 --> 01:47:37,400 Speaker 1: that seems about right. Oh my what No, No, I 1895 01:47:37,479 --> 01:47:39,479 Speaker 1: wanted to but you know what if I was, I'm 1896 01:47:39,520 --> 01:47:40,840 Speaker 1: not gonna lie to you. I did. I didn't get 1897 01:47:40,840 --> 01:47:42,640 Speaker 1: into it, because what do you want to raise your 1898 01:47:42,680 --> 01:47:44,840 Speaker 1: hand to be the guy who's like, who's defending the uh, 1899 01:47:45,280 --> 01:47:50,439 Speaker 1: who's defending the persistent, questioning rapist, guy who keeps asking, hey, 1900 01:47:50,479 --> 01:47:52,559 Speaker 1: would you sleep with me? I mean that's what that's 1901 01:47:52,600 --> 01:47:54,439 Speaker 1: the scenario that you put yourself in, Right, you're gonna 1902 01:47:54,439 --> 01:47:58,479 Speaker 1: be that guy. Well, but this was even years ago. 1903 01:47:58,479 --> 01:48:00,439 Speaker 1: It's gotten so much worse as we and see now 1904 01:48:00,479 --> 01:48:02,880 Speaker 1: the federal government's involved. Now there's money involved, and there's 1905 01:48:02,920 --> 01:48:04,800 Speaker 1: this huge narrative out there, and there are all these 1906 01:48:04,840 --> 01:48:07,679 Speaker 1: activists and there are people, there's oh and I've gone 1907 01:48:07,680 --> 01:48:10,639 Speaker 1: a longer. I haven't even gotten to the religious test. 1908 01:48:10,680 --> 01:48:12,400 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I've I've gone a bit longer on this 1909 01:48:12,479 --> 01:48:16,160 Speaker 1: than I intended to. But there's always money behind this. 1910 01:48:16,240 --> 01:48:18,640 Speaker 1: Two these diversity coordinators used to come on campus. This 1911 01:48:18,800 --> 01:48:23,439 Speaker 1: is you know, eons ago, back back when all the 1912 01:48:23,479 --> 01:48:26,120 Speaker 1: different continents were one. When I was in college and 1913 01:48:26,840 --> 01:48:30,360 Speaker 1: they they would get paid like a thousand dollars to 1914 01:48:30,439 --> 01:48:34,040 Speaker 1: come and speak some nonsense that say, some gibberish about 1915 01:48:34,439 --> 01:48:36,920 Speaker 1: you know, intersectionality for an hour. I mean, you know 1916 01:48:37,120 --> 01:48:39,200 Speaker 1: there's money behind this stuff too. Don't forget it when 1917 01:48:39,360 --> 01:48:45,840 Speaker 1: you read your speeches. Um, the conclusion one draws is 1918 01:48:46,080 --> 01:48:54,120 Speaker 1: that the dogma lives loudly within you, and that's of 1919 01:48:54,240 --> 01:48:59,080 Speaker 1: concern when you come to big issues that large numbers 1920 01:48:59,200 --> 01:49:03,360 Speaker 1: of people have fought for for years in this country. 1921 01:49:04,680 --> 01:49:10,040 Speaker 1: That was Senator Diane Feinstein questioning University of Notre Dame 1922 01:49:10,120 --> 01:49:13,240 Speaker 1: Law School professor Amy Barrett, who is a Catholic mother 1923 01:49:13,439 --> 01:49:16,519 Speaker 1: of seven. She's a nominee for the Seventh Circuit Court 1924 01:49:16,560 --> 01:49:21,719 Speaker 1: of Appeals, and Diane Feinstein says to her, the dogma 1925 01:49:22,640 --> 01:49:27,960 Speaker 1: lives loudly within you, meaning that you're a Catholic, you're 1926 01:49:27,960 --> 01:49:32,439 Speaker 1: a believing Catholic, your way to Catholic. You probably have 1927 01:49:32,640 --> 01:49:37,080 Speaker 1: problems with abortion and gay marriage. So maybe we shouldn't 1928 01:49:37,080 --> 01:49:41,479 Speaker 1: allow you to be on the Court of Appeals. Because 1929 01:49:41,520 --> 01:49:47,040 Speaker 1: remember the hashtag resistance, the the main front, the Maginot line, 1930 01:49:47,040 --> 01:49:49,599 Speaker 1: and let's hope it it's about you know, it's about 1931 01:49:49,640 --> 01:49:53,440 Speaker 1: as effective, Uh, the The main front for the resistance 1932 01:49:53,560 --> 01:49:56,000 Speaker 1: is the judiciary really, I mean the media you could 1933 01:49:56,080 --> 01:49:59,160 Speaker 1: argue as well, but they can only shape perception. The 1934 01:49:59,280 --> 01:50:02,240 Speaker 1: judiciary will just decide that they're well though. They're never 1935 01:50:02,280 --> 01:50:06,360 Speaker 1: Trump judiciary. So whatever he whatever they can do to 1936 01:50:06,439 --> 01:50:09,760 Speaker 1: stop him, slow him down, destroy his agenda, they will do. That. 1937 01:50:09,960 --> 01:50:14,800 Speaker 1: Much has been made very clear to us. So this 1938 01:50:15,000 --> 01:50:18,920 Speaker 1: is an instance where you can play that. Imagine if game, 1939 01:50:19,640 --> 01:50:25,560 Speaker 1: you know, imagine if there were a Muslim nominee to 1940 01:50:26,200 --> 01:50:29,599 Speaker 1: the Court of Appeals, somebody who was of the Islamic faith, 1941 01:50:30,360 --> 01:50:33,360 Speaker 1: and somebody said, you know, we're at war or or 1942 01:50:33,560 --> 01:50:37,839 Speaker 1: have fought wars in a number of Muslim majority countries, 1943 01:50:38,400 --> 01:50:40,720 Speaker 1: and terrorism is something that comes up when you're in 1944 01:50:40,800 --> 01:50:44,519 Speaker 1: the federal judiciary because of federal terrorism cases. You know, 1945 01:50:44,640 --> 01:50:46,360 Speaker 1: I'm just I'm just putting out there. You know, what 1946 01:50:46,439 --> 01:50:48,120 Speaker 1: do you you know, you're a Muslim, what do you 1947 01:50:48,160 --> 01:50:51,400 Speaker 1: think about? I mean, you would have it would be 1948 01:50:52,240 --> 01:50:56,320 Speaker 1: progressive def Con one. I mean, there'd be guys running 1949 01:50:56,320 --> 01:51:00,960 Speaker 1: around screaming and knocking things over at like the Young 1950 01:51:01,080 --> 01:51:04,040 Speaker 1: Turks and these other progressive channels. I mean, the Huffington 1951 01:51:04,080 --> 01:51:07,519 Speaker 1: Post will be running sirens on its front page. I 1952 01:51:07,520 --> 01:51:11,600 Speaker 1: mean they'd be completely freaked out. But if you're a 1953 01:51:11,760 --> 01:51:14,560 Speaker 1: Catholic who is not a Nancy Pelosi Catholic, which is 1954 01:51:14,640 --> 01:51:18,160 Speaker 1: not really a Catholic, and as somebody who went to 1955 01:51:18,280 --> 01:51:21,920 Speaker 1: Jesuit school and and remembers enough of the dogma to 1956 01:51:22,000 --> 01:51:26,599 Speaker 1: know some of this stuff pretty well, uh, they should deny. 1957 01:51:26,960 --> 01:51:31,639 Speaker 1: I mean, Nancy Pelosi should be denied communion full stop, 1958 01:51:32,360 --> 01:51:37,280 Speaker 1: huge proportion, a huge proponent rather of abortion rights, huge 1959 01:51:37,280 --> 01:51:41,479 Speaker 1: proponent of gay marriage, whose proponent of transgender issues and 1960 01:51:41,520 --> 01:51:44,400 Speaker 1: all this. These are all in contract contravention of Church doctrine, 1961 01:51:44,680 --> 01:51:47,479 Speaker 1: and not even as an individual, she contradicts them at 1962 01:51:47,479 --> 01:51:52,120 Speaker 1: the national political level. So she is a public figure 1963 01:51:52,360 --> 01:51:58,080 Speaker 1: that is contradicting explicit and long standing church doctrine. But 1964 01:51:59,160 --> 01:52:01,360 Speaker 1: they don't you know that she still gets supertend that 1965 01:52:01,439 --> 01:52:05,160 Speaker 1: she's you know, believe in Catholic. And uh, but you'll 1966 01:52:05,200 --> 01:52:08,679 Speaker 1: notice the Democrats know the difference. One of the favorite 1967 01:52:08,800 --> 01:52:11,800 Speaker 1: games of Democrat politicians is, you know, they have to 1968 01:52:11,880 --> 01:52:15,559 Speaker 1: say they're Christian so they can appeal to the still 1969 01:52:15,680 --> 01:52:18,640 Speaker 1: vast majority of America that isn't fact Christian. But I 1970 01:52:18,680 --> 01:52:21,000 Speaker 1: mean they're not, like you know, because they've got to 1971 01:52:21,000 --> 01:52:23,439 Speaker 1: be Democrats at the same time. Yeah, with the whole 1972 01:52:23,479 --> 01:52:26,200 Speaker 1: abortion game marriage that that they're not really I mean, 1973 01:52:26,280 --> 01:52:27,439 Speaker 1: you know, don't hold them to it, you know what 1974 01:52:27,479 --> 01:52:29,520 Speaker 1: I mean. It's kind of like a more of a suggestion, 1975 01:52:29,600 --> 01:52:33,160 Speaker 1: that whole Christian thing for most Democrat politicians. So all right, 1976 01:52:33,200 --> 01:52:35,519 Speaker 1: I've and I even had some like fun stuff that 1977 01:52:35,520 --> 01:52:36,479 Speaker 1: I want to talk to about it that I just 1978 01:52:36,520 --> 01:52:38,200 Speaker 1: didn't get to it. I got a little carried away 1979 01:52:38,200 --> 01:52:41,800 Speaker 1: on some of these topics. 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