WEBVTT - Tossing Darts!

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to Fantasy Football Weekly, a production of iHeartRadio.

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<v Speaker 2>Time now for Fantasy Football Weekly from iHeartRadio, your weekly

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<v Speaker 2>source for the nation's best fantasy football advice, speculation, and

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<v Speaker 2>whatever stupid stuff they decided to drop into the show.

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<v Speaker 2>Now here's your host, Paul Chargion.

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<v Speaker 3>Welcome to Fantasy Football Weekly, the last of five episodes

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<v Speaker 3>with Thor Nystrom getting us ready for the draft.

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<v Speaker 4>A big conclusion to the trilogy. What's five?

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<v Speaker 1>It's not septology, I don't know. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, we've broken down running backs and two shows. Then

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<v Speaker 3>I think we went receiver, tight end.

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<v Speaker 1>Now quarterback. Yeah, and then I've already I've already I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not positive next week, but then the.

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<v Speaker 3>Day after the draft, the Friday after the draft, you've

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<v Speaker 3>got you've.

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<v Speaker 1>After round one. Yep, we're going to hit that too,

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<v Speaker 1>So you deserve a break.

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<v Speaker 3>We haven't even nobody even knows who Scott Fish and

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<v Speaker 3>Matt Harrison are anymore.

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<v Speaker 1>Those guys haven't been on the show in so long. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and we're going to try to work in uh

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<v Speaker 3>one of a new guy named Kent Wee Rock who

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<v Speaker 3>has made one been on one other show maybe like

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<v Speaker 3>a year ago. We're gonna try to get Kent into

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<v Speaker 3>We're going into the rotation as well. I think you

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<v Speaker 3>and Kent have you and Kent may have cross paths.

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<v Speaker 1>At some point. Yeah. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>So here we are, we're only two weeks away from

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<v Speaker 3>the Drafttheless, tell let's we're going to do quarterbacks.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's start here.

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<v Speaker 3>Where would this year's most promising quarterbacks, so that would

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<v Speaker 3>be cam Ord Shadar Sanders. Where would they have ranked

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<v Speaker 3>in last year's quarterback Leyden draft if they'd been coming out?

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<v Speaker 1>Now? Where would they go? Between Caleb Williams and bow Nix?

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<v Speaker 3>We had six quarterbacks taken last year, right, so where

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<v Speaker 3>would these guys have slotted into last year's grading?

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<v Speaker 1>For me?

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<v Speaker 4>They would have been five and six? Okay, so you know.

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<v Speaker 1>After McCarthy, before Nicks. What for me it was after May?

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<v Speaker 1>But ok yeah, like my rank, it was.

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<v Speaker 4>Right of course Coja and then Drake May. But I

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<v Speaker 4>would you know, I would have had the top two

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<v Speaker 4>guys of this class, the next two guys and then

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<v Speaker 4>Pennix nixt after that.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, all right, all right, and that's the just every

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<v Speaker 1>year is different, right, yeah?

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<v Speaker 3>They you know these are you know, cam Ward is

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<v Speaker 3>coming out in a weaker class, he's gonna go first overall.

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<v Speaker 1>Probably. Yeah, yeah, that's right. And you know, a different

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<v Speaker 1>year he might have gone tenth.

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<v Speaker 4>Jonathan Brooks or Trey Benson in this running back.

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<v Speaker 1>Class would have after thoughts.

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<v Speaker 4>But yeah, they got pulled up because they were in

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<v Speaker 4>a bad running back class. I put out a tweet

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<v Speaker 4>today about how there are two true freshmen wide receivers

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<v Speaker 4>are they're leaving their true freshman season, but if they

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<v Speaker 4>were in this draft class, each of them would be

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<v Speaker 4>wide receiver one if you don't count Travis Hunter as

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<v Speaker 4>a wide receiver. Jeremiah Smith and Ryan Williams do.

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<v Speaker 1>They both play for Ohio State.

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<v Speaker 4>Jeremi Smith plays for the.

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<v Speaker 1>Other run place for Alabama.

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<v Speaker 4>Probably weren't going to predict that, but but yeah, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>and it's cyclical. This wide receiver class is way down.

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<v Speaker 1>Right.

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<v Speaker 4>In a couple of years we are going to have

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<v Speaker 4>an epic wide receiver class. So it's just you know,

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<v Speaker 4>all these position groups up down, updown.

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<v Speaker 1>Give me a letter grade for the quarterback class. I'll

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<v Speaker 1>go D, Yeah, probably D or D plus. Okay, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's not like the Malik willis uh not the pick

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<v Speaker 1>at year. It's not that bad. That was an F class. Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>this is a D class. This is a D class.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's see what we can learn about these players. First.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to start here.

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<v Speaker 3>Here's the teams I think that could take a quarterback

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<v Speaker 3>day one or day two. Ye, so first two rounds,

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<v Speaker 3>Jets they currently have justin fields.

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<v Speaker 1>That's patchwork.

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<v Speaker 3>Now they're paying fields two years forty million, so it's

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<v Speaker 3>not nothing, but that's a patchwork solution.

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<v Speaker 1>Yep. Browns.

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<v Speaker 3>Obviously, people do not believe the Browns at pick two

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<v Speaker 3>are going to take a quarterback.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't believe they'll take a quarterback. Do you you

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<v Speaker 1>think Browns take corder?

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<v Speaker 4>Not at two, but uh, but it appears that they'll

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<v Speaker 4>be taking one at some point.

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<v Speaker 1>I think they will. Yeah. You know, after does not change,

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<v Speaker 1>that's it.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, after signing Flacco and then you have pick it,

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<v Speaker 4>you have that opening for one guy, right like and

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<v Speaker 4>I'm not talking about Deshaun Watson.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah it is.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean my question is is that guy is it

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<v Speaker 4>Kirk Cousins or has that been earmark for the rookie?

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<v Speaker 4>But yeah, well we'll find out. And you know Cleveland

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<v Speaker 4>picks it too.

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<v Speaker 1>Well.

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<v Speaker 4>You talked a lot about that. I think Travis Hunter

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<v Speaker 4>is going there. But the thing is to Cleveland has

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<v Speaker 4>an absolute war chest of draft equity. They have the

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<v Speaker 4>thirty third pick, the first one in the second round,

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<v Speaker 4>and then in the third round they have two picks.

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<v Speaker 4>They have sixty seven, they have ninety four. They have

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<v Speaker 4>one of the top picks in the fourth the second

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<v Speaker 4>pick in the fourth round one oh four. They have

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<v Speaker 4>the amo to move up potentially, and if you start

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<v Speaker 4>to see Shader Sanders falling, that's their move watch out.

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<v Speaker 3>I speculated about exactly that scenario today on KFA N.

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<v Speaker 3>Could the Browns go thirty three to twenty to jump

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<v Speaker 3>the Steelers to get Shadir Sanders.

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<v Speaker 4>So in my last mock draft, I went two rounds.

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<v Speaker 4>I had them going to fifteen trading with Atlanta, and

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<v Speaker 4>the trade that jives even with baked in slight taxes

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<v Speaker 4>for the move up and the slight tax for the

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<v Speaker 4>quarterback move up, so you have like a double tax there.

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<v Speaker 4>But the thing that would jive it is that thirty

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<v Speaker 4>third pick sixty seven ninety four and then a fourth

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<v Speaker 4>round pick next years as a sweetener that would drive

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<v Speaker 4>it for the fifteen pick. So I think anything. Fifteen

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<v Speaker 4>later they are in play to swing and move up

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<v Speaker 4>to board.

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<v Speaker 3>So you think Sanders and I'm seeing this increasingly. Not

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<v Speaker 3>that long ago, Sanders was believed to be going in

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<v Speaker 3>the top four or five picks of this drafty. What

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<v Speaker 3>I'm seeing lately is a move of Shadur homing farther

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<v Speaker 3>down the draft.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you see it that way?

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<v Speaker 4>I'll believe it when I see it, certainly, that's, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>the way that the wind appears to be blowing right now.

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<v Speaker 4>But there are a lot of false narratives out there

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<v Speaker 4>about Shader, so it's it's sort of difficult to parse

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<v Speaker 4>through what is the signal and what is the noise.

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<v Speaker 1>A couple of the teams I can take quarterbacks.

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<v Speaker 3>Steelers obviously still don't have the resolution on the Art

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<v Speaker 3>Rodgers thing after all this, and either way, right regardless

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<v Speaker 3>of it, they need it, they need it. Titans obviously

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<v Speaker 3>at one they'll go quarterback. Giants at three they've got

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<v Speaker 3>Russell Wilson, they got Jamis Winston. These guys are you know,

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<v Speaker 3>between the two of them, there have six teams and

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<v Speaker 3>three years, so that's not a solution for the Giants.

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<v Speaker 3>Saints at nine might start doing some Derek car succession planning.

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<v Speaker 3>I believe Seattle at eighteen. I know they just committed

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<v Speaker 3>a ton of money to Sam Darnold, but kind of

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<v Speaker 3>like the Vikings was, Sam, they might want it, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>they may. I think that Seattle might want to have

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<v Speaker 3>a backup plan ready, much like the Vikings did.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, and there's oh, it's in that contract. You know

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<v Speaker 4>where it's not. You know the outlay and and and

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<v Speaker 4>and and you know it isn't significant and they would

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<v Speaker 4>be able to get out of it if they wanted to.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yep, all right, So let's go through your your

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<v Speaker 1>top quarterbacks.

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<v Speaker 3>You're ready to dig in. Let's do it now. You

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<v Speaker 3>have Shadure Sanders number one. I do this puts you

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<v Speaker 3>out of lockstep with the majority. And I love that

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<v Speaker 3>about you that you're willing to do that. Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 3>love it. Just go with your go with your gut. Okay,

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<v Speaker 3>well it's not just gut. You're gonna throw a bunch

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<v Speaker 3>of facts at us. Your comp on Shudar Sanders Drew Breese.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I'm just a huge fan of Shadeer Sanders' game.

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<v Speaker 4>The the placement and the accuracy are both elite and

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<v Speaker 4>that's the thing that that will remind you of Drew Brees.

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<v Speaker 4>I also like his ability to make people miss in

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<v Speaker 4>the pocket. You know, people say, oh, Shuldeer Sanders isn't athletic,

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<v Speaker 4>which is absurd. He you know, he's the son of

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<v Speaker 4>one of the most athletic players in NFL history. We've

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<v Speaker 4>also seen him outside of the pocket a few instances.

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<v Speaker 4>When he does run. He's been clocked over ninety miles

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<v Speaker 4>per hour on the GPS, even ran a four to

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<v Speaker 4>six five coming out of high school. So some of

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<v Speaker 4>the again, some of these narratives around Shadeer Sanders are

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<v Speaker 4>just absolutely absurd. But he had the athleticism to make

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<v Speaker 4>people miss in the pocket. That's what he's looking to

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<v Speaker 4>do to extend. He notes that the guys crashing in

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<v Speaker 4>the penetration immediately and he's able to sort of change

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<v Speaker 4>his plan to facilitate that and extend the plays. He

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<v Speaker 4>played behind terrible offensive lines last two years at Colorado

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<v Speaker 4>without eight of a running game, so it's the defense

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<v Speaker 4>knew what was coming every single time. I'm curious to

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<v Speaker 4>see how much Shadeer's game plays up at the next

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<v Speaker 4>level when he has a competent offensive line. Playing in

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<v Speaker 4>front of him right where he doesn't have to move

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<v Speaker 4>off of his spot immediately and extend and different stuff

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<v Speaker 4>like that. But speaking to the accuracy eighty one point

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<v Speaker 4>eight adjusted accuracy percentage last year, that was five points high.

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<v Speaker 4>Really I think cam Ward, Yeah, it was number two

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<v Speaker 4>amongst all BS quarterbacks. He also takes care of the ball,

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<v Speaker 4>Shahdeer Sanders does not put it up for grabs last

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<v Speaker 4>year number three and turnover worthy play rate cam Ward's

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<v Speaker 4>was almost three times higher.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, So with Shadeer.

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<v Speaker 4>Sanders, it's a very even ride. You know, you get

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<v Speaker 4>the steady eddy thing. You get a guy again accuracy placement,

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<v Speaker 4>it's a chain mover who takes care of the ball.

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<v Speaker 4>He's not going to turn it over for you, so

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<v Speaker 4>you're taking a profit every single play. Cam Orders will

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<v Speaker 4>talk about in a second is a bit more of

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<v Speaker 4>a roller coaster ride his game. But yeah, I'm a

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<v Speaker 4>huge fan of Shadeer Sanders' game.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, few mistakes for for a guy who was under

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<v Speaker 1>pressure a lot ninety seventh percentile in avoiding negative throws, yep.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, you know he gets a lot of crap for

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<v Speaker 4>the sack numbers. But again, when you look at the

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<v Speaker 4>preponderance of pressures per snap on him, and then you

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<v Speaker 4>look at his ability to take care of the ball

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<v Speaker 4>like that, I think that there are contextual things that

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<v Speaker 4>you can point to that are impressive as far as

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<v Speaker 4>the decision making under duress.

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<v Speaker 1>So from a fantasy standpoint, for Shagar Sanders.

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<v Speaker 3>Feels like a high floor guy, not necessarily a high

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<v Speaker 3>ceiling fantasy producer.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, Drew Brees was both. I mean, if he could

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<v Speaker 1>actually turn out to be Drew Brees, obviously he can

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<v Speaker 1>do both. Drew was never mobile, but drew through one

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<v Speaker 1>of the most catchable passes in the NFL, and it

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<v Speaker 1>had amazing seasons with tons of yards and touchdowns. Do

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<v Speaker 1>you view it that way?

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<v Speaker 3>As Shuldear Sanders as a high floor prospect more than

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<v Speaker 3>a high ceiling prospect.

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<v Speaker 4>Super high floor, but I think his ceilings higher than

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<v Speaker 4>people give him credit for. You know what I mean too,

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<v Speaker 4>Drew Brees coming out of Purdue, he fell to the

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<v Speaker 4>second round.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, he did, right, so today when Tomlinson breeze that year, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and it turned out okay.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, And it wasn't even because NFL head coaches were

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<v Speaker 4>scared to draft him because they were afraid his dad

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<v Speaker 4>was going to take his job the next year, like

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<v Speaker 4>is the case of Shadeer Sanders, which is where I

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<v Speaker 4>think most of this nonsense is coming from. And if

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<v Speaker 4>there is any trepidation inside NFL buildings, I think it's

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<v Speaker 4>coming from from coaches that are afraid, Like, man, if

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<v Speaker 4>we if we draft this kid and then we start

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<v Speaker 4>it's slow, next year, they're gonna be coming pitchforks in

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<v Speaker 4>front of the stadium wanting coach prime.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>I think that's where some of this stuffs coming from.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Well, in an ideal scenario for Sanders to be great,

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<v Speaker 3>if he didn't go drop to that point, be great,

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<v Speaker 3>if he didn't drop to a team that had to

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<v Speaker 3>start him week one necessarily. You know, if you could

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<v Speaker 3>get into a situation where you can learn on the job.

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<v Speaker 3>Maybe there was another quarterback there. I don't know, a

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<v Speaker 3>safer spot. I guess it doesn't It doesn't really matter.

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<v Speaker 3>We'll see how we'll see how it plays out.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's go to your number two quarterback. That's cam Ward.

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<v Speaker 3>Most people think he's gonna go first overall, and you

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<v Speaker 3>do too, right, Yeah, sure, Okay, your comp here is

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<v Speaker 3>Jordan Love. There's a lot to like about Cam Word,

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<v Speaker 3>especially that arm. I feel like he can really reach

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<v Speaker 3>all parts of the field.

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<v Speaker 4>Definitely. Yeah, he's he's got a great arm. He's got

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<v Speaker 4>a fascinating backstor. He was a wing tea quarterback in

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<v Speaker 4>high school and he got overlooked and and you know,

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<v Speaker 4>and you know, on the recruiting trailer or whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>But he sort of learned.

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<v Speaker 4>He sort of has a style of his own as

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<v Speaker 4>a quarterback because of this, you know, because he was

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<v Speaker 4>sort of built from scratch when he got to campus

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<v Speaker 4>at Incarnate Word initially, but he has played an air

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<v Speaker 4>raid offenses throughout it. So it's funny for a kid

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<v Speaker 4>that never played in a traditional passing offense up until

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<v Speaker 4>when he arrived on campus, he threw more air raid

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<v Speaker 4>passes on campus than any quarterback in the history of

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<v Speaker 4>college football. Wow, right, because he had that long career

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<v Speaker 4>and he was in an air raid every single year.

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<v Speaker 4>Last year it was the modified version of that with

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<v Speaker 4>Shannon Dawson and before that with Eric Morris both at

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<v Speaker 4>Incarnate Word and Washington State. It was the more directly

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<v Speaker 4>the Mike Leech one, the godfather your air raid traditional

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<v Speaker 4>sort of a thing. But yeah, Cam Word you get

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<v Speaker 4>a lot of cool things with the armslot. He's one

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<v Speaker 4>of those guys. You know, you get the three quarters,

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<v Speaker 4>you can get the side arm, big time velocity. You

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<v Speaker 4>love that he can push the ball down the field.

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<v Speaker 4>Of course, he's a risk taker. He's a riverboat gambler

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<v Speaker 4>kind of a guy. And there's great things about that,

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<v Speaker 4>and there's bad things about that, and and you know,

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<v Speaker 4>you get the explosive plays. Absolutely, his explosive to play

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<v Speaker 4>rate very very high last year. But my whole thing

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<v Speaker 4>with him and how I see his evaluation as the

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<v Speaker 4>explosive plays and the inclination leading to those, it's the

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<v Speaker 4>same thing that is leading to the turnover wherey plays

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<v Speaker 4>right like putting the ball up for grabs. He has

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<v Speaker 4>a tendency to attempt passes that other people would not,

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<v Speaker 4>and he trusts his arm implicitly. But again, sometimes you

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<v Speaker 4>see him attempt passes that cannot be completed. One thing,

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<v Speaker 4>when he's scrambling around, he hates to throw the ball away.

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<v Speaker 4>He doesn't like to say die on a play, so

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<v Speaker 4>when he's getting close to the line of scrimmage, he

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<v Speaker 4>will chuck it up. And sometimes you'll see him trying

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<v Speaker 4>to throw to the third sector of the field outside

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<v Speaker 4>the opposite hash and then safe, the free safety will

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<v Speaker 4>come across and grab the ball in the middle of

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<v Speaker 4>the field and flip it on him. So but it's like,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, to cut that down, you're gonna be, in

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<v Speaker 4>my opinion, cutting down his explosive plays in direct conjuncture.

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<v Speaker 4>It's sort of like the Brett fav Corlarry where one

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<v Speaker 4>goes with the other. So, Kim Woord, I have him

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<v Speaker 4>number two as a QB like I do like him,

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<v Speaker 4>But but you're gonna have to live with those turnovers

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<v Speaker 4>in the NFL as well.

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<v Speaker 3>So now all that said, I noted this from your

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<v Speaker 3>article Fantasy Life. Over the years, his turnover worthy plays

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<v Speaker 3>never increased. He was a steady His turnover worthy plays

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<v Speaker 3>remained steady and pretty low throughout his entire career.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, but how much higher can you get the explosive

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<v Speaker 4>play rate? Like I do appreciate that he kept it there.

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<v Speaker 4>Well the you know he started and a part of

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<v Speaker 4>this with Dawson as well, and the playmakers that he

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<v Speaker 4>had to work with last year at Miami like previously,

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<v Speaker 4>you know at Wazoo, he didn't have quite the weapons,

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<v Speaker 4>but you got to go a bit more aerial because

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<v Speaker 4>of the way that that system design. I do appreciate

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<v Speaker 4>that about his game. But the turnover worthy play rate,

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<v Speaker 4>it is elevated, and yeah, he kept it static well

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<v Speaker 4>while getting the explosive play rate up. But it's you

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<v Speaker 4>know again, it's three times what Shadier Sanders was last year.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, all right, so that's number one and two. Do

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<v Speaker 3>you believe another quarterback will be taken in the first

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<v Speaker 3>round before we get to your third guy?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah? I do.

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<v Speaker 3>All right, where's your landing spot for who I assume

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<v Speaker 3>will be Jackson Dart Pittsburgh? I think so, yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>all right, twenty one?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yeah, I think so unless that's Millroe. But the

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<v Speaker 4>the you know, and Milroe got invited.

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<v Speaker 1>To the draft, so there is Isn't that interesting?

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<v Speaker 4>There is a mystery team in on Millroy?

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<v Speaker 1>Right, I said that doesn't happen by accident.

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<v Speaker 4>I sent a lot of text messages on that tried

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<v Speaker 4>to trying to track down what was going on there.

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<v Speaker 4>It is all quiet on the Western front.

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<v Speaker 1>Nobody swelt we're so close to the draft.

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<v Speaker 4>Somebody knows something, but nobody talking.

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<v Speaker 3>And there's only like thirteen kids to the draft, right,

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<v Speaker 3>and they've been trying to cut it down because they

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<v Speaker 3>don't want to embarrass the want embarrassed the kids. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>so why do you why invite Jalen Milroe unless you.

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<v Speaker 1>There is a mystery?

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<v Speaker 4>Darn confidence there's a mystery. Now now you know a

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<v Speaker 4>lot of people they're making the connection with Pittsburgh and

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<v Speaker 4>that makes sense on on a lot of different you know, uh,

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<v Speaker 4>the ways of looking at it. However, Pittsburgh, what was

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<v Speaker 4>that class that he talked about with two three years ago?

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<v Speaker 4>They had the option to take a Malik Willis over

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<v Speaker 4>Kenny Pickett. They took Kenny Pickett over Malik Willis. Right,

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<v Speaker 4>Jalen Milroe has a lot of stylistic similarities to Malik

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<v Speaker 4>Willis as a prospect coming in. So now would Pittsburgh

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<v Speaker 4>would they take Jalen Milroe a couple of years later

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<v Speaker 4>over Jackson Dart If that was a decision that it

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<v Speaker 4>came down to, I'm not sure about that. So I

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<v Speaker 4>tend to think that it is another mystery team that's

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<v Speaker 4>in a mill Roe. But we'll find out.

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<v Speaker 3>I'll give you a mystery team that could that could

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<v Speaker 3>be targeting a quarterback at the end of the first round,

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<v Speaker 3>let's hear it rams, Okay, right, succession planning, Yeah, for

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<v Speaker 3>Matthew Stafford would make sense.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, they I would think they would be more of

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<v Speaker 4>the fit for Dart than I did too.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think. Yeah, it doesn't feel that fit there.

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<v Speaker 1>It doesn't stylistically.

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<v Speaker 3>But that's a team that would make sense and pretty

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<v Speaker 3>you know, but pretty much all the rest of the

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<v Speaker 3>teams that are at the bottom of the the first round,

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<v Speaker 3>of course, are set at quarterback for the long term.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so I don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, all right, let's go to Jackson Dart. He's your

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<v Speaker 3>number three ranked quarterback from Ole Miss.

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<v Speaker 1>Your comp here is Gardner Minshew.

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<v Speaker 3>All right, Which I say that like you're attacking Jackson Dart,

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<v Speaker 3>but that I don't think that's quite what you're getting

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<v Speaker 3>at here.

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<v Speaker 4>No, I just have, you know, some questions about the

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<v Speaker 4>evaluation where I can't get to where somebody like he

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<v Speaker 4>won't be a first round pick on my board personally

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<v Speaker 4>of him as like a top half of the second

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<v Speaker 4>round kind.

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<v Speaker 1>Of a guy.

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<v Speaker 4>But he's a really difficult evaluation because the physical ability,

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<v Speaker 4>the athleticism to frame the arm talent, and the pedigree

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<v Speaker 4>and statistical profile that sort of stuff. All that stuff

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<v Speaker 4>would point you to this is a first round prospect. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>but he played in the Cotton Candy scheme the offense

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<v Speaker 4>for Lane Kiffen where it's all the pre snap stuff.

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<v Speaker 4>Your decision is given to you in advance, and he

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<v Speaker 4>very rarely went off the first read, so a lot

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<v Speaker 4>of time again, the decision made before the snap. You

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<v Speaker 4>just have to make the good throw at that point.

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<v Speaker 4>But he would miss whether it's open guys or I

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<v Speaker 4>you know, I saw instances of several on his film

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<v Speaker 4>of there'd be one dude on one side of the

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<v Speaker 4>field in one on one coverage, there's nobody else there.

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<v Speaker 4>He wouldn't even see it because he'd be trying to

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<v Speaker 4>muscle the ball into his first read in triple coverage.

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<v Speaker 4>So it's like, and you know, I can't say he

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<v Speaker 4>can't read the field. He ran Lane Kiffin's system effectively,

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<v Speaker 4>super effectively. It's just a black box of his evaluation

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<v Speaker 4>where you can't play offense in the NFL the way

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<v Speaker 4>that Lane Kiffin and Ole Miss played their offense. So

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<v Speaker 4>you have to make decisions after the snap in the NFL,

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<v Speaker 4>once you have gotten information from what the defense is doing.

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<v Speaker 4>Post snap that's just stuff we haven't seen from Jackson

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<v Speaker 4>Dart yet.

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<v Speaker 1>So because of that black box, I have to.

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<v Speaker 4>Knock him down from where you know, that other stuff

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<v Speaker 4>where that would typically point to. I do like his arm,

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<v Speaker 4>I like his athleticism. But in the profile too, there

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<v Speaker 4>are a couple scary things that I can point two

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<v Speaker 4>where it's like where you know, I can sort of

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<v Speaker 4>justify my trepidation. One of them is on pressures. Jackson

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<v Speaker 4>Dart of the top ten or so you know, of

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<v Speaker 4>the relevant quarterbacks in this class, he actually had this

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<v Speaker 4>highest scramble rate last year and it wasn't really even close.

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<v Speaker 1>You might think it would be Jalen Milroe.

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<v Speaker 4>Jalen Milroe might have been the year before because they

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<v Speaker 4>let him run a little bit more, but Jackson Dart

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<v Speaker 4>had a very elevated scramble rate. And it sort of

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<v Speaker 4>reminds you of remember Sam Howell coming out of U NCY.

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<v Speaker 4>I liked Sam Howell, yeah, and that, you know, especially

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<v Speaker 4>that last year he just scrambled so much. I mean

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<v Speaker 4>he ran for dang near a thousand yards and and

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<v Speaker 4>you know what you sort of saw there was when

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<v Speaker 4>the first option wasn't there instead of creating you know,

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<v Speaker 4>and and sort of going through the progression line. Sam

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<v Speaker 4>holl would just tuck and run. I've seen too much

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<v Speaker 4>of that with Jackson Dart.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Yeah, at this time last year, I was worried

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<v Speaker 1>that bow Nicks was a first read passer, and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>he was much like how you were describing Jackson Dart,

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<v Speaker 1>where he was just he'd thrown to double coverage, thrown

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<v Speaker 1>the covered receivers as his first.

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<v Speaker 3>Read too much for my liking. Say, Bonex turned out okay,

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<v Speaker 3>So you know, it can be coached. It can be

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<v Speaker 3>coached out of you, and maybe Dart's got the talent

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<v Speaker 3>for that. You noted his Jackson darts best area is

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<v Speaker 3>the middle of the field, the intermediate level pass the.

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<v Speaker 1>Part of this stuff that I like, yeah a lot.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's the deeper throws that I think he struggles with, right, Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>You know when when the first read is not there,

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<v Speaker 4>because a lot of times that he's getting he knows

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<v Speaker 4>it's going to be one on one coverage on the

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<v Speaker 4>dude going deal. A lot of times it was Trey Harris.

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<v Speaker 4>Trey Harris the only runs the straight routes. You know,

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<v Speaker 4>he's nothing side to side or whatever. But like when

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<v Speaker 4>he would get those dialed up for him, it was

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<v Speaker 4>always in one on one coverage. He doesn't do good,

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<v Speaker 4>especially when he's going to the other side of the field.

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<v Speaker 4>But yeah, he doesn't have a howitzer, but it's certainly

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<v Speaker 4>above average arm strength and where at most manifests, it's

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<v Speaker 4>getting the velocity on the tights iro to the receivers

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<v Speaker 4>in the intermediate range, which which is the thing that

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<v Speaker 4>most evokes the NFL type throws in his profile.

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<v Speaker 3>Let's go to your number four ranked quarterback, and that

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<v Speaker 3>is the aforementioned Jalen Milroe. Your comp here is Malik Willis.

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<v Speaker 3>So you're getting an elite rusher, yeah, and Jalen Milroe

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<v Speaker 3>and a very incomplete passer.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:21:22.160 --> 0:21:24.760
<v Speaker 4>This is another tough evail, but obviously for different reasons.

0:21:24.800 --> 0:21:27.920
<v Speaker 4>Even my QB three Milroe was earlier this process. I

0:21:28.240 --> 0:21:31.040
<v Speaker 4>did toggle dart ahead of them. But they're close. But

0:21:31.119 --> 0:21:34.720
<v Speaker 4>the evails are they're they're just different. Mill Row, he's

0:21:34.760 --> 0:21:37.119
<v Speaker 4>he's got the small hands, you know he was.

0:21:37.160 --> 0:21:38.760
<v Speaker 1>It was eight eight and.

0:21:38.760 --> 0:21:42.000
<v Speaker 4>Three quarters eight and three quarters, yeah, which we have.

0:21:42.200 --> 0:21:44.760
<v Speaker 4>We don't have much precedent for quarterbacks with hand side

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<v Speaker 4>like that.

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<v Speaker 1>Come.

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<v Speaker 3>I think your article said, there's no starting quarterback in

0:21:48.680 --> 0:21:50.399
<v Speaker 3>the NFL that has a hands that small.

0:21:50.440 --> 0:21:52.080
<v Speaker 1>And the last one who tried was Kenny Picks.

0:21:52.080 --> 0:21:55.359
<v Speaker 4>Was Kenny work Yeah nine. The only one really you

0:21:55.359 --> 0:21:58.639
<v Speaker 4>can evote historically to is Michael Vick, who people forget

0:21:58.680 --> 0:22:01.200
<v Speaker 4>its eight and a half inches not remember that at all.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so he had he had.

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<v Speaker 4>The small hands, but he still had that Howarzer downfield now,

0:22:05.280 --> 0:22:09.960
<v Speaker 4>Jaln Milroe, he is tremendous downfield that uh you know,

0:22:10.000 --> 0:22:12.760
<v Speaker 4>the passes he gets down there, he has all the

0:22:12.840 --> 0:22:15.120
<v Speaker 4>arm strength in the world. He also has really good

0:22:15.160 --> 0:22:17.919
<v Speaker 4>touchdown there. When he gets the one on one, looks

0:22:17.920 --> 0:22:20.479
<v Speaker 4>and dials it up, he usually gets the best of it.

0:22:20.880 --> 0:22:23.639
<v Speaker 4>That his statistics on those were insane. I'm trying to

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<v Speaker 4>find it in my in my sheet here. But the

0:22:27.400 --> 0:22:30.560
<v Speaker 4>problem is comprom to Happy Gilmour because it's you know,

0:22:30.600 --> 0:22:33.000
<v Speaker 4>it's he can hit the ball a country mile, but

0:22:33.040 --> 0:22:35.800
<v Speaker 4>he can't put It's the stuff in the intermediate, the

0:22:36.440 --> 0:22:39.240
<v Speaker 4>short area of the field within nineteen yards of the

0:22:39.280 --> 0:22:41.800
<v Speaker 4>line of scrimmage thirteen to thirteen TDI and T rate

0:22:41.840 --> 0:22:44.159
<v Speaker 4>the last couple of years. And this is why Kaylen

0:22:44.200 --> 0:22:48.040
<v Speaker 4>de Boer essentially shoved out Jaln Milroe. It's why Jaln

0:22:48.080 --> 0:22:49.800
<v Speaker 4>Milroe is in the draft now. I don't know if

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<v Speaker 4>he wanted to turn pro right now, but Alabama didn't

0:22:52.600 --> 0:22:55.120
<v Speaker 4>want him back right like he was not good enough

0:22:55.119 --> 0:22:57.440
<v Speaker 4>in the pocket. And Kaylen de Boor, by the way,

0:22:57.720 --> 0:23:01.320
<v Speaker 4>he has a history of turning guy into pocket passers

0:23:01.359 --> 0:23:03.440
<v Speaker 4>that are good at this, so when he started working

0:23:03.480 --> 0:23:07.240
<v Speaker 4>with Milroe, it's like, oh, this could be nice. Caitlin

0:23:07.320 --> 0:23:09.640
<v Speaker 4>de Boor, recall, is the guy that began with Michael

0:23:09.680 --> 0:23:13.160
<v Speaker 4>Pennox at Indiana when Michael Pennix was just the ball

0:23:13.240 --> 0:23:15.200
<v Speaker 4>of clay, and de bor got him a couple of

0:23:15.240 --> 0:23:17.240
<v Speaker 4>years there, got him a couple years of Washington, and

0:23:17.240 --> 0:23:20.119
<v Speaker 4>all of a sudden, Michael Pennix is a top ten quarterback.

0:23:20.480 --> 0:23:22.800
<v Speaker 4>So it was like, oh, that's gonna happen with Milroe.

0:23:22.840 --> 0:23:25.000
<v Speaker 4>He could not get Milroe to do that stuff, and

0:23:25.359 --> 0:23:28.679
<v Speaker 4>then it became a problem because de Boor tried to

0:23:29.119 --> 0:23:31.600
<v Speaker 4>pin him into the pocket and the way they got

0:23:31.920 --> 0:23:34.800
<v Speaker 4>Milroe back with his legs. They did way more designed

0:23:34.880 --> 0:23:37.440
<v Speaker 4>runs last year than they'd done the year before under

0:23:37.480 --> 0:23:40.720
<v Speaker 4>Tommy Reese. But in the passing concepts, when a passing

0:23:40.800 --> 0:23:44.400
<v Speaker 4>play was called de Boor wanted that ball out, and

0:23:44.400 --> 0:23:47.160
<v Speaker 4>that's you started to get some friction there and down

0:23:47.200 --> 0:23:49.440
<v Speaker 4>the stretch. I don't know what's going on in there

0:23:49.480 --> 0:23:53.199
<v Speaker 4>building Alabama, but after Alabama beat Georgia at the end

0:23:53.240 --> 0:23:55.280
<v Speaker 4>of September, Milroe looked like he was going to be

0:23:55.280 --> 0:23:57.879
<v Speaker 4>the first overall pick in this class. And then after

0:23:57.920 --> 0:24:00.639
<v Speaker 4>that the wheels totally came off, both for mill and

0:24:00.680 --> 0:24:03.320
<v Speaker 4>the Alabama offense. And I think it was that push

0:24:03.320 --> 0:24:06.119
<v Speaker 4>and pull of Milroe wanting to keep his game but

0:24:06.160 --> 0:24:08.960
<v Speaker 4>then de Boor wanting him to run the de Boer offense,

0:24:08.960 --> 0:24:11.560
<v Speaker 4>and it just was not a very good fit. Five

0:24:11.600 --> 0:24:14.120
<v Speaker 4>and four finish over the last nine games, Milroe six

0:24:14.200 --> 0:24:17.240
<v Speaker 4>to ten TD nin and T rate in those nine games.

0:24:17.640 --> 0:24:20.119
<v Speaker 4>But if you get Milroe in a different syst that

0:24:20.280 --> 0:24:22.639
<v Speaker 4>this goes. You know the Lamar Jackson thing, right, Like,

0:24:22.960 --> 0:24:25.359
<v Speaker 4>Milroe is not the exact same thing as Lamar Jackson.

0:24:25.400 --> 0:24:28.040
<v Speaker 4>And I will say Lamar Jackson ran the Earhart Perkins

0:24:28.040 --> 0:24:30.800
<v Speaker 4>system when he was at Louisville. That's the offensive system

0:24:30.800 --> 0:24:33.480
<v Speaker 4>that Bill Parcells ran for the Giants, his offensive system

0:24:33.480 --> 0:24:36.560
<v Speaker 4>Bill Belichick and Tom Brady they did with the Patriots.

0:24:36.600 --> 0:24:39.600
<v Speaker 4>So he ran a pro style system for Patrino at Louisville.

0:24:39.640 --> 0:24:44.399
<v Speaker 4>Lamar Jackson did. Only last year Milroe started. You know,

0:24:44.720 --> 0:24:46.040
<v Speaker 4>it was the Michael Pennox offense.

0:24:46.080 --> 0:24:46.320
<v Speaker 1>Whatever.

0:24:46.359 --> 0:24:48.760
<v Speaker 4>But in the whole point being going to the NFL,

0:24:48.800 --> 0:24:51.360
<v Speaker 4>they're gonna have to be some modifications in the offensive

0:24:51.400 --> 0:24:56.720
<v Speaker 4>system to facilitate success for Jaln Milroe, especially initially while

0:24:56.760 --> 0:24:59.000
<v Speaker 4>you're trying to teach him the short and intermediate stuff,

0:24:59.000 --> 0:25:01.560
<v Speaker 4>the anticipatory asses, the timing stuff.

0:25:02.440 --> 0:25:04.199
<v Speaker 1>All right, let's move to your your number five And

0:25:04.200 --> 0:25:05.840
<v Speaker 1>by the way, you know Milrall's gonna be tempting from

0:25:05.880 --> 0:25:08.920
<v Speaker 1>a fantasy standpoint because of the athleticism the running.

0:25:08.760 --> 0:25:11.160
<v Speaker 4>Runs in the four three, is it right? Two hundred

0:25:11.160 --> 0:25:14.080
<v Speaker 4>and twenty plus pounds. Tremendous athlete, Yeah, and a great,

0:25:14.160 --> 0:25:15.160
<v Speaker 4>great runner.

0:25:14.880 --> 0:25:15.520
<v Speaker 1>He's gotta be.

0:25:16.160 --> 0:25:19.000
<v Speaker 3>The passing has to get so much better that I

0:25:19.080 --> 0:25:21.440
<v Speaker 3>worry that he's going to be a career backup.

0:25:22.000 --> 0:25:25.400
<v Speaker 1>You'll like your comp Malik Willis, Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's

0:25:25.480 --> 0:25:26.760
<v Speaker 1>that's certainly the fear. Yep.

0:25:27.240 --> 0:25:29.080
<v Speaker 3>All right, let's go to your number five ranked quarterback

0:25:29.119 --> 0:25:32.440
<v Speaker 3>Kyle McCord formerly from Ohio State then Syrahcuse.

0:25:32.440 --> 0:25:35.240
<v Speaker 1>He got forced out by Will Howard. Your comp here

0:25:35.440 --> 0:25:37.000
<v Speaker 1>is Kirk Cousins.

0:25:37.240 --> 0:25:39.919
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, if there's if there's a sleeper in this class,

0:25:39.960 --> 0:25:42.480
<v Speaker 4>you know what, everybody's got the same consensus top four,

0:25:42.480 --> 0:25:44.840
<v Speaker 4>but if there's a sleeper in this class, it turns

0:25:44.840 --> 0:25:47.080
<v Speaker 4>into a starter. I don't think everyone else has Tyler

0:25:47.119 --> 0:25:47.679
<v Speaker 4>Shuck for this.

0:25:47.920 --> 0:25:50.720
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. For me, it's it's Kyle McCord. Kyle McCord.

0:25:50.760 --> 0:25:52.679
<v Speaker 4>I really like the way that he sees the field.

0:25:52.760 --> 0:25:56.399
<v Speaker 4>I like the way that he challenges defenses. He denotes

0:25:56.480 --> 0:26:00.280
<v Speaker 4>the coverage scheme really really quickly, and he will attack that.

0:26:00.359 --> 0:26:02.720
<v Speaker 4>It's the thing Cousins, you know, coming out of Michigan

0:26:02.760 --> 0:26:04.840
<v Speaker 4>State obviously wasn't a good athlete, and he didn't have

0:26:04.880 --> 0:26:06.840
<v Speaker 4>the howitzer for an arm so so he sort of

0:26:06.840 --> 0:26:09.840
<v Speaker 4>gets nippicked and ends up going on day three and McCord,

0:26:09.840 --> 0:26:11.480
<v Speaker 4>it's it's sort of the same thing. You know, it's

0:26:11.760 --> 0:26:14.160
<v Speaker 4>a decent frame six three two twenty four, but yeah,

0:26:14.200 --> 0:26:17.480
<v Speaker 4>it's average ish, maybe slightly above average arm strength, but

0:26:17.480 --> 0:26:19.480
<v Speaker 4>but no better than that. And then again you're you're

0:26:19.480 --> 0:26:21.800
<v Speaker 4>confined to the pocket. But that gumptionhit he has within

0:26:21.880 --> 0:26:24.720
<v Speaker 4>the pocket pushing the ball down the field when he

0:26:24.760 --> 0:26:26.600
<v Speaker 4>has the best of it. I like all that sort

0:26:26.600 --> 0:26:29.199
<v Speaker 4>of stuff. Last year he's also very good under pressure.

0:26:29.200 --> 0:26:31.320
<v Speaker 4>He's gotten good under pressure. It's a part of his

0:26:31.359 --> 0:26:34.480
<v Speaker 4>game that's improved, improved, improved last year. Number four PFF

0:26:34.520 --> 0:26:37.320
<v Speaker 4>passing great under pressure. That it's it's one of those

0:26:37.359 --> 0:26:40.160
<v Speaker 4>metrics that I look at. I like the quarterbacks who

0:26:40.520 --> 0:26:43.480
<v Speaker 4>their their game doesn't creter when they're under duress. It

0:26:43.520 --> 0:26:46.600
<v Speaker 4>typically projects better to the NFL. And then McCord had won.

0:26:47.160 --> 0:26:49.920
<v Speaker 4>He had one game, so last year he it was weird.

0:26:49.960 --> 0:26:51.639
<v Speaker 4>You know, the year before he's at Ohio State, he

0:26:51.680 --> 0:26:53.879
<v Speaker 4>played with all these superstars, and then Ohio State was

0:26:53.920 --> 0:26:56.560
<v Speaker 4>like hit the road, kid, we're gonna bring in Will Howard.

0:26:56.800 --> 0:26:58.760
<v Speaker 4>And then McCord goes a Syracuse. He's not playing with

0:26:58.800 --> 0:27:01.439
<v Speaker 4>nearly as much talent, but his game jumped up. It

0:27:01.520 --> 0:27:03.919
<v Speaker 4>was sort of like he was unshackled from having to

0:27:04.000 --> 0:27:07.919
<v Speaker 4>run the Ohio State system. You know, it's sort of contradictory,

0:27:07.920 --> 0:27:09.800
<v Speaker 4>but that ended up being the case and he could

0:27:09.800 --> 0:27:12.560
<v Speaker 4>sort of become his own man. He was tremendous in

0:27:12.680 --> 0:27:16.040
<v Speaker 4>twelve games last year. Horrific in one. Yeah, the Pittsburg

0:27:16.119 --> 0:27:18.560
<v Speaker 4>Hide the women, yes, exactly, hide the women and children

0:27:18.560 --> 0:27:20.880
<v Speaker 4>in that one. He threw five interceptions in that including

0:27:20.920 --> 0:27:23.840
<v Speaker 4>three first half pick sixes, but thirty four to seven

0:27:23.880 --> 0:27:26.640
<v Speaker 4>TD nine t rate in the other twelve games, again

0:27:26.720 --> 0:27:30.360
<v Speaker 4>at Syracuse. So I like his game and I think

0:27:30.359 --> 0:27:32.560
<v Speaker 4>that there's more potential there maybe than he's getting credit for.

0:27:32.920 --> 0:27:35.480
<v Speaker 3>Calm m accord, your your story. At Fantasy Life notes,

0:27:35.480 --> 0:27:39.680
<v Speaker 3>he finished number three among quarterbacks in PFF's wins above

0:27:39.880 --> 0:27:41.040
<v Speaker 3>Average metric.

0:27:41.160 --> 0:27:44.440
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and he led FBS and big time throws. Yeah.

0:27:44.520 --> 0:27:46.919
<v Speaker 4>Yeah. It's because of the gumption thing, right like, and

0:27:46.960 --> 0:27:50.320
<v Speaker 4>he just notices the coverage so quickly. And that's the

0:27:50.359 --> 0:27:52.560
<v Speaker 4>thing that I really appreciate about his game. And he

0:27:52.680 --> 0:27:55.680
<v Speaker 4>is not afraid, not afraid to push the ball down

0:27:55.640 --> 0:27:58.760
<v Speaker 4>the field, especially down the seams. He really was hurting

0:27:58.800 --> 0:28:02.800
<v Speaker 4>people with those they had Gadson with Syracuse State. You know,

0:28:02.800 --> 0:28:05.560
<v Speaker 4>they would do cool stuff with slots on both sides,

0:28:05.960 --> 0:28:07.880
<v Speaker 4>and when he got the look he wanted down the seam,

0:28:07.920 --> 0:28:10.040
<v Speaker 4>he's letting that thing rip and he can put it

0:28:10.080 --> 0:28:11.760
<v Speaker 4>on the hands there and lead the guy up the field.

0:28:12.119 --> 0:28:15.120
<v Speaker 3>All Right, I've got one more quarterback that I want

0:28:15.160 --> 0:28:16.960
<v Speaker 3>to do the full breakdown on, and then i'd like

0:28:17.000 --> 0:28:19.160
<v Speaker 3>you to give me one fantasy relevant sleeper.

0:28:19.920 --> 0:28:21.840
<v Speaker 1>That's Will Howard, who he just mentioned.

0:28:21.520 --> 0:28:25.560
<v Speaker 3>So he assumed the starting role for Ohio State. Your

0:28:25.600 --> 0:28:31.000
<v Speaker 3>comp here's Mason Rudolph. And I think you know, for

0:28:31.040 --> 0:28:33.960
<v Speaker 3>Will Howard, he gets dinged just because of the amazing

0:28:34.040 --> 0:28:35.679
<v Speaker 3>talent around him to some degree.

0:28:35.680 --> 0:28:37.440
<v Speaker 1>And how much of that do you think is fair?

0:28:39.080 --> 0:28:45.480
<v Speaker 1>It's fair Will Howard. There are certain things about his evaluation.

0:28:45.560 --> 0:28:47.360
<v Speaker 1>I like, right, like, he's huge.

0:28:47.200 --> 0:28:50.400
<v Speaker 4>You know, six' four and a quarter to thirty, six

0:28:50.440 --> 0:28:52.520
<v Speaker 4>and he's got THE a to eight raz moves around.

0:28:52.600 --> 0:28:54.360
<v Speaker 4>Well and earlier in his career At Kansas state we

0:28:54.400 --> 0:28:56.000
<v Speaker 4>got to see him running around a little bit more

0:28:56.040 --> 0:28:59.480
<v Speaker 4>because that offensive. System he also has a decent arm you,

0:28:59.520 --> 0:29:02.240
<v Speaker 4>know as actually in The College Football playoff you start

0:29:02.280 --> 0:29:04.720
<v Speaker 4>to see him get more effective with, that pushing the

0:29:04.720 --> 0:29:08.720
<v Speaker 4>ball down the field To Jeremiah smith and the receivers

0:29:08.720 --> 0:29:12.040
<v Speaker 4>that they had. THERE i my issue with his evaluation

0:29:12.280 --> 0:29:14.960
<v Speaker 4>is it's a guy who's older at twenty four to twenty.

0:29:14.960 --> 0:29:16.960
<v Speaker 4>Five With Will, howard he was in college for a,

0:29:16.960 --> 0:29:21.560
<v Speaker 4>while whose mechanics are still. Messy And i'll give him

0:29:21.600 --> 0:29:24.800
<v Speaker 4>credit and see he has improved those AND i saw

0:29:25.040 --> 0:29:29.959
<v Speaker 4>improvement even last, season but it's still not fine tuned.

0:29:30.200 --> 0:29:33.480
<v Speaker 4>Enough and because of that you see errancy when he

0:29:33.560 --> 0:29:35.880
<v Speaker 4>starts to lose those, mechanics or when his upper body

0:29:35.920 --> 0:29:38.080
<v Speaker 4>is not married to his lower, body and and and

0:29:38.200 --> 0:29:42.800
<v Speaker 4>those sorts of, things it plays down the throwing ability.

0:29:42.840 --> 0:29:44.880
<v Speaker 4>There so that's that's my issue with. Him and if

0:29:44.880 --> 0:29:47.960
<v Speaker 4>he hasn't gotten there, yet it's like he get there.

0:29:48.040 --> 0:29:52.120
<v Speaker 3>Exactly, Yeah and given the opportunities that he's, Had Will

0:29:52.200 --> 0:29:55.080
<v Speaker 3>howard has one thing that makes me really interested in

0:29:55.120 --> 0:29:58.360
<v Speaker 3>him from a fantasy. Standpoint he would be a tush push.

0:29:58.520 --> 0:30:01.560
<v Speaker 3>Monster he would if he can find his way into

0:30:01.840 --> 0:30:05.040
<v Speaker 3>a starting job as a just a good enough, passer

0:30:05.760 --> 0:30:08.200
<v Speaker 3>he could rack up double digit touchdowns on toosh pushes

0:30:08.200 --> 0:30:10.080
<v Speaker 3>in the right, system bring them.

0:30:10.080 --> 0:30:13.160
<v Speaker 4>In, yeah maybe he's a designated douche. Pusher, Yeah and,

0:30:13.560 --> 0:30:15.000
<v Speaker 4>like you, KNOW i think you'll have a career as a.

0:30:15.000 --> 0:30:15.400
<v Speaker 1>Backup you.

0:30:15.440 --> 0:30:17.640
<v Speaker 4>Know, again it reminds me Of Mason. Rudolph Mason rudolph

0:30:17.640 --> 0:30:19.360
<v Speaker 4>when he had the look that he wanted and stuff

0:30:19.400 --> 0:30:21.240
<v Speaker 4>like that At Oklahoma. State he could push the ball

0:30:21.280 --> 0:30:23.160
<v Speaker 4>down the. Field he was, big he was, athletic but,

0:30:23.640 --> 0:30:27.600
<v Speaker 4>yeah reading the field sometimes under duress and then the

0:30:27.920 --> 0:30:31.600
<v Speaker 4>mechanical thing tweaks with. That but, yeah you get a

0:30:31.800 --> 0:30:34.600
<v Speaker 4>potential backup guy, development even IF i don't think he

0:30:34.640 --> 0:30:38.640
<v Speaker 4>has a starter, upside you get some utility there potentially

0:30:38.680 --> 0:30:40.800
<v Speaker 4>With beldozer type at the goal.

0:30:40.840 --> 0:30:44.320
<v Speaker 3>Line all, Right so he's being Connected Will howard because

0:30:44.320 --> 0:30:46.720
<v Speaker 3>his offensive coordinator Was Chip kelly last year and he's

0:30:46.760 --> 0:30:49.080
<v Speaker 3>now with The, raiders and The raiders Have Geno smith

0:30:49.080 --> 0:30:50.840
<v Speaker 3>and they Extended Gino, Smith SO i, mean you, know

0:30:50.920 --> 0:30:51.760
<v Speaker 3>for the next couple.

0:30:51.600 --> 0:30:52.720
<v Speaker 1>Of years, anyway they're set.

0:30:52.760 --> 0:30:56.800
<v Speaker 3>There But i'm Seeing howard mock To Las vegas at

0:30:56.840 --> 0:30:59.200
<v Speaker 3>like fourth round pick hundred and. Eight do you think

0:30:59.280 --> 0:31:01.680
<v Speaker 3>That's is there anything there we just looking, for you,

0:31:01.720 --> 0:31:02.760
<v Speaker 3>know any CONNECTION.

0:31:02.640 --> 0:31:03.080
<v Speaker 1>I could see.

0:31:03.120 --> 0:31:05.520
<v Speaker 4>That, YEAH i mean he's gonna. Go, yeah he's either

0:31:05.520 --> 0:31:07.640
<v Speaker 4>going to go fourth or fifth. ROUND i think, so,

0:31:07.760 --> 0:31:11.080
<v Speaker 4>yeah one of those. Spots and it wouldn't make sense

0:31:11.080 --> 0:31:13.000
<v Speaker 4>With Las vegas for, sure with what the scenario.

0:31:13.120 --> 0:31:16.160
<v Speaker 1>Is is there anybody else you've broken down like twenty,

0:31:16.240 --> 0:31:18.400
<v Speaker 1>quarterbacks we've only hit. Six is there.

0:31:18.320 --> 0:31:21.760
<v Speaker 3>Anybody else you think has got the potential for fantasy

0:31:22.080 --> 0:31:24.840
<v Speaker 3>relevance not just like this? Guy could you know be

0:31:24.880 --> 0:31:28.160
<v Speaker 3>AN nfl, backup but like somebody THAT i could throw

0:31:28.480 --> 0:31:33.640
<v Speaker 3>my late third round dynasty pick at and you, know

0:31:33.680 --> 0:31:35.720
<v Speaker 3>there's a ten percent chance he pays off as a

0:31:35.720 --> 0:31:36.280
<v Speaker 3>starter at some.

0:31:36.320 --> 0:31:38.360
<v Speaker 4>Point on the other guy we hadn't discussed you could

0:31:38.360 --> 0:31:40.600
<v Speaker 4>toss out for that would Be Tyler. Shuck And Tyler

0:31:40.640 --> 0:31:44.280
<v Speaker 4>shuck he's even, bigger and he's, well he's, taller and

0:31:44.320 --> 0:31:45.760
<v Speaker 4>he's a better athlete Than Will.

0:31:45.760 --> 0:31:47.160
<v Speaker 1>Howard he has the physical.

0:31:47.200 --> 0:31:49.800
<v Speaker 4>Package and again there's people in the draft community that

0:31:49.840 --> 0:31:52.240
<v Speaker 4>absolutely Love Tyler. Shuck i'm not going to be the

0:31:52.240 --> 0:31:54.360
<v Speaker 4>one banging the table for him because they focus on

0:31:54.480 --> 0:31:57.120
<v Speaker 4>last year and they focus on his recruiting pedigree and

0:31:57.120 --> 0:32:00.760
<v Speaker 4>then of course the the athletic, profile WHEREAS i also

0:32:00.840 --> 0:32:04.440
<v Speaker 4>considered the previous was it five seasons where he had

0:32:04.440 --> 0:32:08.080
<v Speaker 4>the multiple you know At oregon his first year red,

0:32:08.080 --> 0:32:10.800
<v Speaker 4>shirt but then when he took over For, herbert they

0:32:10.880 --> 0:32:13.000
<v Speaker 4>benched him right away because he wasn't seeing the field,

0:32:13.040 --> 0:32:15.440
<v Speaker 4>well he wasn't good under. Pressure then he went To

0:32:15.520 --> 0:32:18.880
<v Speaker 4>Texas tech and he had three straight season ending injuries

0:32:19.160 --> 0:32:22.520
<v Speaker 4>or injuries the rec, seasons so you have durability concerns,

0:32:22.560 --> 0:32:24.720
<v Speaker 4>there and then it wasn't a guy that broke out

0:32:24.800 --> 0:32:29.200
<v Speaker 4>until whatever seventh college she's so it's, like, YEAH i,

0:32:29.200 --> 0:32:31.200
<v Speaker 4>MEAN i know he has some arm, talent AND i

0:32:31.240 --> 0:32:33.720
<v Speaker 4>know he was sawid last, year and he's obviously has

0:32:33.720 --> 0:32:35.280
<v Speaker 4>the prototypical frame and he's.

0:32:35.360 --> 0:32:38.520
<v Speaker 1>ATHLETIC i just like him as a.

0:32:38.560 --> 0:32:41.400
<v Speaker 4>Backup is the thing that inoculates him against one of

0:32:41.440 --> 0:32:44.480
<v Speaker 4>the black marks on his. Evaluation it's the durability. Thing

0:32:44.880 --> 0:32:47.840
<v Speaker 4>and then also at that elevated, age not having the

0:32:47.840 --> 0:32:50.800
<v Speaker 4>breakout until the very. End and by the, way he

0:32:50.880 --> 0:32:53.920
<v Speaker 4>was playing For Jeff, brohm who is a super underrated

0:32:54.080 --> 0:32:57.880
<v Speaker 4>quarterback whisperer who sent several quarterbacks to THE nfl From.

0:32:57.920 --> 0:33:00.480
<v Speaker 4>PERDUE i, mean none of them were, superstar but every

0:33:00.520 --> 0:33:02.880
<v Speaker 4>single quarterback he had he was sent into THE. Nfl

0:33:03.560 --> 0:33:05.960
<v Speaker 4>So i'm just a little bit lower on. Shuck but

0:33:06.360 --> 0:33:08.400
<v Speaker 4>if he got into the situation where he's a backup

0:33:08.400 --> 0:33:11.040
<v Speaker 4>and the starter gets, hurt he can move around a little,

0:33:11.040 --> 0:33:13.440
<v Speaker 4>bit so maybe he would score a couple of. Touchdowns

0:33:13.880 --> 0:33:16.240
<v Speaker 4>another guy in THAT ilk i'll toss out Is Riley.

0:33:16.320 --> 0:33:19.440
<v Speaker 4>Leonard I've Riley leonard eleven BECAUSE i don't like him

0:33:19.480 --> 0:33:21.440
<v Speaker 4>as a. Thrower he can't throw down the. FIELD i

0:33:21.480 --> 0:33:24.000
<v Speaker 4>comp him to Righty Tim tebow because it's you, know

0:33:24.040 --> 0:33:26.040
<v Speaker 4>some of that. Stuff but he is a very good,

0:33:26.120 --> 0:33:28.800
<v Speaker 4>runner and so if he ever found himself in this

0:33:28.880 --> 0:33:31.320
<v Speaker 4>situation where he was the backup and then the starter got,

0:33:31.400 --> 0:33:34.160
<v Speaker 4>hurt you would see a lot of running For Riley

0:33:34.200 --> 0:33:36.880
<v Speaker 4>leonard as you did in The National title, game where it's, Like,

0:33:37.000 --> 0:33:39.480
<v Speaker 4>riley you're our. Offense you're just gonna, run, run. Run

0:33:39.520 --> 0:33:42.320
<v Speaker 4>the first, drive it actually. Worked it didn't work after.

0:33:42.360 --> 0:33:45.440
<v Speaker 4>That but he's a tough. Kid he's, athletic BUT i

0:33:45.880 --> 0:33:47.960
<v Speaker 4>do think that there's limitation beyond. That but he could

0:33:48.040 --> 0:33:49.040
<v Speaker 4>score some touchdowns in THE.

0:33:49.120 --> 0:33:50.440
<v Speaker 1>Nfl this is all really good.

0:33:50.480 --> 0:33:53.840
<v Speaker 3>Stuff as we break down the rookie, CLASS i want

0:33:53.880 --> 0:33:55.600
<v Speaker 3>to talk to you about a different first year. Starter

0:33:57.840 --> 0:34:00.760
<v Speaker 3>i'm doing A i'm doing a, slow a slow best

0:34:00.800 --> 0:34:03.040
<v Speaker 3>ball draft right. Now i'm gonna be on the clock

0:34:03.080 --> 0:34:05.760
<v Speaker 3>in about eight. PICKS i Have Jayden daniels as my,

0:34:05.840 --> 0:34:08.000
<v Speaker 3>quarterback one who he took in like the second or third.

0:34:08.080 --> 0:34:13.040
<v Speaker 3>Round it's now ROUND i think ten or. ELEVEN jj

0:34:13.160 --> 0:34:18.439
<v Speaker 3>McCarthy is still. There tell Me, omar Say, omar, RIGHT

0:34:18.520 --> 0:34:20.880
<v Speaker 3>i mean you know this is a great. BACKUP i

0:34:20.960 --> 0:34:24.799
<v Speaker 3>want Let's i'd like you to give, me presuming he

0:34:25.280 --> 0:34:27.560
<v Speaker 3>plays the entire, season which is always how we look at.

0:34:27.560 --> 0:34:29.319
<v Speaker 3>It we're never, like, hey this guy's gonna miss half

0:34:29.320 --> 0:34:32.960
<v Speaker 3>a season with. INJURY jj, McCarthy give me his passing

0:34:33.400 --> 0:34:35.600
<v Speaker 3>yards and, touchdowns and THEN i would like you to

0:34:35.600 --> 0:34:37.799
<v Speaker 3>give me his rushing yards and, touchdowns WHICH i think

0:34:38.160 --> 0:34:40.279
<v Speaker 3>way too many people are missing the boat on his

0:34:40.320 --> 0:34:43.000
<v Speaker 3>mobility and how The vikings could use him that. Way

0:34:43.040 --> 0:34:46.839
<v Speaker 3>and just Because kevin O'Connell hasn't run with his, QUARTERBACKS

0:34:46.880 --> 0:34:49.600
<v Speaker 3>i think that's been reflective more of his quarterbacks than

0:34:50.080 --> 0:34:50.640
<v Speaker 3>then scheme.

0:34:50.680 --> 0:34:51.920
<v Speaker 1>Necessarily, well let's say.

0:34:51.920 --> 0:34:53.719
<v Speaker 4>THIS i think he's going to be a top ten

0:34:53.800 --> 0:34:57.480
<v Speaker 4>fantasy quarterback next, year and he's gonna score rushing, touchdowns

0:34:57.480 --> 0:34:59.359
<v Speaker 4>you KNOW i, mean and he's gonna get more rushing

0:34:59.440 --> 0:35:04.520
<v Speaker 4>yards than people. Think super athletic kid RAN. I i

0:35:05.000 --> 0:35:07.719
<v Speaker 4>had information that he ran in the high four fours At.

0:35:07.800 --> 0:35:10.919
<v Speaker 4>Michigan kevin O'Connell said that he ran in the low four.

0:35:11.000 --> 0:35:15.880
<v Speaker 4>FIVES i we won't know that That's kevin O'Connell TEASES JJ.

0:35:16.040 --> 0:35:17.400
<v Speaker 1>Bo, well because he.

0:35:17.400 --> 0:35:20.000
<v Speaker 4>Didn't run the forty during the precraft, process but what

0:35:20.040 --> 0:35:22.120
<v Speaker 4>he did do was he had the six fastest three

0:35:22.200 --> 0:35:25.440
<v Speaker 4>cone irregardless of position at the twenty twenty FOUR Nfl.

0:35:25.480 --> 0:35:29.200
<v Speaker 4>Combine super duper athletic. Kid he usually he uses that

0:35:29.280 --> 0:35:31.040
<v Speaker 4>you know in the pocket to buy time and then

0:35:31.239 --> 0:35:33.840
<v Speaker 4>he's tremendous throwing on the. Run but a part of

0:35:33.880 --> 0:35:36.120
<v Speaker 4>his game is getting to the perimeter of what you,

0:35:36.120 --> 0:35:38.680
<v Speaker 4>know when there is. Penetration, yeah when he, started you,

0:35:38.719 --> 0:35:41.000
<v Speaker 4>know starts to buy time offscra and he'll, yeah he'll

0:35:41.040 --> 0:35:44.000
<v Speaker 4>keep the mechanics with. Him but if a look isn't

0:35:44.040 --> 0:35:46.680
<v Speaker 4>there when he gets to the line of, scrimmage Unlike

0:35:46.719 --> 0:35:49.040
<v Speaker 4>Shadeer sanders who stops on a dime there and then

0:35:49.160 --> 0:35:51.800
<v Speaker 4>waits that you, know for someone to get, open or

0:35:51.920 --> 0:35:55.400
<v Speaker 4>Unlike Cam moore who will fling the ball try to

0:35:55.400 --> 0:35:57.959
<v Speaker 4>make an impossible, THROW jj Will tuckett at that point

0:35:58.000 --> 0:36:00.120
<v Speaker 4>he ain't looking to, talk but like he, will well

0:36:00.400 --> 0:36:03.360
<v Speaker 4>right if it's the best option and he steals. Yards so,

0:36:03.480 --> 0:36:06.440
<v Speaker 4>yeah right, away you think about the play. Card you

0:36:06.440 --> 0:36:09.120
<v Speaker 4>think about all the talent that they have, there The,

0:36:09.239 --> 0:36:12.319
<v Speaker 4>vikings if they take a guard with their first, PICK

0:36:13.120 --> 0:36:15.080
<v Speaker 4>i think they have a top three offensive line in THE.

0:36:15.200 --> 0:36:17.480
<v Speaker 4>Nfl so it's you have all. That so if you

0:36:17.520 --> 0:36:19.560
<v Speaker 4>have the two good running, backs such a good, SITUATION

0:36:19.680 --> 0:36:22.680
<v Speaker 4>i think you can be a top ten fantasy quarterback next.

0:36:22.760 --> 0:36:28.040
<v Speaker 1>Year four thousand yards over, okay, great, well let's play over.

0:36:28.080 --> 0:36:28.799
<v Speaker 1>It we'll play Card.

0:36:28.800 --> 0:36:36.200
<v Speaker 3>Sharks so we're over four thousand, yards twenty eight touchdown, passes.

0:36:36.960 --> 0:36:40.640
<v Speaker 4>Twenty, Eight i'll go let's see last year that would

0:36:40.640 --> 0:36:44.120
<v Speaker 4>have been twenty, eight would have been how Many Aaron

0:36:44.200 --> 0:36:44.799
<v Speaker 4>rodgers Had.

0:36:47.360 --> 0:36:51.720
<v Speaker 3>With that, Perspective, okay all, right Then i'm gonna go.

0:36:53.239 --> 0:36:54.040
<v Speaker 1>Five hundred rushing.

0:36:54.080 --> 0:36:57.400
<v Speaker 4>Yards five hundred rushing.

0:36:57.480 --> 0:36:59.880
<v Speaker 3>Yards he's gonna have to have some design play design

0:37:00.040 --> 0:37:00.920
<v Speaker 3>runs in there to get to five.

0:37:01.000 --> 0:37:09.080
<v Speaker 4>Hundred i'm Gonna i'll go under the five, hundred, okay, yeah.

0:37:08.680 --> 0:37:17.239
<v Speaker 1>Six rushing, Touchdowns i'll say five five, okay all, right,

0:37:17.360 --> 0:37:19.360
<v Speaker 1>okay so we're over over under, under, okay all.

0:37:19.440 --> 0:37:23.520
<v Speaker 3>Right that would that would probably put him close To.

0:37:23.640 --> 0:37:25.480
<v Speaker 3>Courty you know the numbers you're talking about that put

0:37:25.520 --> 0:37:28.040
<v Speaker 3>him close TO qb. Ten that would put him. CLOSE

0:37:29.040 --> 0:37:31.120
<v Speaker 3>i can't What i've been What i've been. Taught When

0:37:31.120 --> 0:37:32.800
<v Speaker 3>i've been talking ABOUT jj, McCarthy and you do it

0:37:32.840 --> 0:37:33.200
<v Speaker 3>more THAN i.

0:37:33.239 --> 0:37:35.960
<v Speaker 4>DO i don't talk about anything, else, yeah.

0:37:36.400 --> 0:37:42.120
<v Speaker 1>Almost never to. Me it feels like he.

0:37:42.400 --> 0:37:47.560
<v Speaker 3>IS i can't remember a first year. Starter he's not a,

0:37:47.640 --> 0:37:50.839
<v Speaker 3>rookie a first year starter to have as much surrounding

0:37:50.920 --> 0:37:56.040
<v Speaker 3>talent AS jj McCarthy, Has and especially when you consider

0:37:56.200 --> 0:37:59.680
<v Speaker 3>coaching staff as part of that equation between the offensive, line,

0:38:00.000 --> 0:38:04.600
<v Speaker 3>receivers the running, game the coaching. STAFF i can't remember

0:38:04.960 --> 0:38:09.600
<v Speaker 3>a spot where a quarterback has as promising AS jj

0:38:09.960 --> 0:38:13.000
<v Speaker 3>is as a top ten drafted quarterback into a spot

0:38:13.200 --> 0:38:13.960
<v Speaker 3>that has.

0:38:14.000 --> 0:38:16.480
<v Speaker 1>More more support around.

0:38:16.520 --> 0:38:18.520
<v Speaker 4>It you got to go back a, while you, know

0:38:18.600 --> 0:38:20.640
<v Speaker 4>a year ago at this, time people were saying that

0:38:20.680 --> 0:38:22.360
<v Speaker 4>About Caleb, williams even though.

0:38:22.200 --> 0:38:23.640
<v Speaker 1>He had the terrible offensive.

0:38:23.719 --> 0:38:26.440
<v Speaker 4>Line, yes you, know, okay running back, room but you,

0:38:26.440 --> 0:38:29.520
<v Speaker 4>know obviously not even mostly not Even, yeah you, know

0:38:29.760 --> 0:38:31.640
<v Speaker 4>it was because they had the good receiving. Corps BUT

0:38:32.080 --> 0:38:35.240
<v Speaker 4>i would take The vikings receiving corps Over. Chicago's, yeah,

0:38:35.320 --> 0:38:38.000
<v Speaker 4>right so, certain and then the tight end as. WELL

0:38:38.680 --> 0:38:40.600
<v Speaker 4>i would take the running back, room take the offensive.

0:38:40.600 --> 0:38:41.960
<v Speaker 4>LINE i, mean you would have to go back and

0:38:42.040 --> 0:38:44.959
<v Speaker 4>obviously the play, caller uh by quite a. Bit you'd

0:38:44.960 --> 0:38:47.120
<v Speaker 4>have to go back a. While, Yeah so it's he

0:38:47.360 --> 0:38:50.480
<v Speaker 4>he's in such a good situation there and the game

0:38:51.040 --> 0:38:56.200
<v Speaker 4>it's it's projectable to, fantasy you, know because you're getting

0:38:56.320 --> 0:38:59.200
<v Speaker 4>the extra value from the. Legs that, AGAIN i don't

0:38:59.200 --> 0:39:03.200
<v Speaker 4>think people are baked in right. Now, yeah that's gonna be.

0:39:03.280 --> 0:39:05.560
<v Speaker 3>UH i think THAT'S i don't know If i'm gonna

0:39:05.560 --> 0:39:08.560
<v Speaker 3>be able to CALL jj McCarthy put him into my sleeper,

0:39:08.600 --> 0:39:10.479
<v Speaker 3>list BUT i THINK i think he counts he's gonna

0:39:10.480 --> 0:39:11.920
<v Speaker 3>be a sleeper if he's gonna keep going off the

0:39:11.920 --> 0:39:13.920
<v Speaker 3>board round, ten round eleven in.

0:39:14.040 --> 0:39:16.680
<v Speaker 4>Drafts i've tried to wake everyone up the last year.

0:39:16.760 --> 0:39:20.560
<v Speaker 4>Plus but, YEAH i MEAN i suppose he probably would

0:39:20.560 --> 0:39:22.560
<v Speaker 4>still be considered a sleeper heading end of the. Year, yeah,

0:39:22.640 --> 0:39:23.960
<v Speaker 4>YEAH i think so we're gonna have to change.

0:39:24.000 --> 0:39:24.040
<v Speaker 2>That.

0:39:24.160 --> 0:39:26.399
<v Speaker 1>Trecon, yeah we'll do our best here on the. Show,

0:39:26.440 --> 0:39:27.200
<v Speaker 1>yeah thank, You.

0:39:27.200 --> 0:39:29.200
<v Speaker 3>Thor we'll be talking again in two weeks as we

0:39:29.440 --> 0:39:31.799
<v Speaker 3>look through the we'll go through the first round and hit.

0:39:31.800 --> 0:39:34.760
<v Speaker 1>All away from. DRAFT i, KNOW i know so. Close

0:39:34.840 --> 0:39:38.719
<v Speaker 1>how many running backs in the first. Round it's.

0:39:38.760 --> 0:39:42.360
<v Speaker 4>Good it's either two or. Three BEFORE i was pretty.

0:39:42.360 --> 0:39:45.919
<v Speaker 4>Confident to starting to hear a little bit, more maybe

0:39:45.920 --> 0:39:48.080
<v Speaker 4>it'll be. Three, ah the two and a half number is.

0:39:48.120 --> 0:39:52.000
<v Speaker 4>Perfect i'll still say. Two But I'm i'm starting to

0:39:52.160 --> 0:39:54.560
<v Speaker 4>go a little bit more towards three the time closer

0:39:54.600 --> 0:39:55.200
<v Speaker 4>we Get.

0:39:55.320 --> 0:39:57.600
<v Speaker 1>Chiefs could muck up the works at thirty? One you

0:39:57.640 --> 0:39:58.200
<v Speaker 1>think they?

0:39:58.239 --> 0:40:04.399
<v Speaker 3>Could it's, Possible, yeah if they Love Caleb, johnson, RIGHT

0:40:04.440 --> 0:40:06.200
<v Speaker 3>i mean there's you, know that's a team just you,

0:40:06.239 --> 0:40:07.920
<v Speaker 3>know if you're looking for somebody at a team at

0:40:07.920 --> 0:40:08.480
<v Speaker 3>the bottom of.

0:40:08.400 --> 0:40:11.279
<v Speaker 1>The First This pacheco, thing the way it played out

0:40:11.360 --> 0:40:12.080
<v Speaker 1>last year was weird.

0:40:12.120 --> 0:40:14.920
<v Speaker 4>Man, yeah, yeah, yeah they. Could, yeah. Definitely he's a

0:40:15.000 --> 0:40:17.759
<v Speaker 4>running back and maybe. Maneuver but, yeah, yeah.

0:40:17.520 --> 0:40:19.839
<v Speaker 1>ALTHOUGH i Got caleb going to The bears at, whatever thirty,

0:40:19.960 --> 0:40:22.799
<v Speaker 1>NINE i think he goes, yeah, right have fired a. Guess,

0:40:22.840 --> 0:40:23.640
<v Speaker 1>YEAH i.

0:40:23.560 --> 0:40:25.320
<v Speaker 4>THINK i am going To dallas in, mine you, know

0:40:25.320 --> 0:40:27.600
<v Speaker 4>Because schottenheimer put in the zone the whole.

0:40:27.640 --> 0:40:29.080
<v Speaker 1>Deal oh, yeah that makes.

0:40:29.120 --> 0:40:30.840
<v Speaker 4>Sense caleb got to get to his own, system but

0:40:30.880 --> 0:40:32.800
<v Speaker 4>he gonna be, very very. Good would you rather have

0:40:32.920 --> 0:40:36.560
<v Speaker 4>him Or henderson if you depend on the? Scheme, yeah

0:40:36.600 --> 0:40:39.239
<v Speaker 4>for his own run Team caleb for. Sure, Yeah, YEAH

0:40:39.239 --> 0:40:39.640
<v Speaker 4>i think so.

0:40:39.719 --> 0:40:44.120
<v Speaker 3>Too and from a fantasy, Standpoint caleb's just The dude's

0:40:44.160 --> 0:40:45.480
<v Speaker 3>gonna get a lot of.

0:40:45.560 --> 0:40:47.120
<v Speaker 1>Touchdowns oh.

0:40:47.239 --> 0:40:50.359
<v Speaker 4>Yeah it's so powerful in, church like for my, job

0:40:50.440 --> 0:40:52.360
<v Speaker 4>like you have to ring people like in a, vacuum

0:40:52.360 --> 0:40:54.440
<v Speaker 4>but like you, know if you're doing it for AN nfl,

0:40:54.520 --> 0:40:57.439
<v Speaker 4>team you obviously have an offensive. System IF i ran

0:40:57.520 --> 0:41:00.120
<v Speaker 4>a zone running, SYSTEM i would Have Caleb john TO

0:41:00.560 --> 0:41:04.600
<v Speaker 4>rb two in this, class behind only. Genty but like you,

0:41:04.600 --> 0:41:07.400
<v Speaker 4>know obviously he's not a fitting. Gap so it's, like you,

0:41:07.400 --> 0:41:09.640
<v Speaker 4>know you have to sort of bake both those things

0:41:09.640 --> 0:41:12.399
<v Speaker 4>In omar And hampton is scheme versatile where he could

0:41:12.400 --> 0:41:13.880
<v Speaker 4>do either. One there's a lot of a lot of

0:41:14.000 --> 0:41:16.279
<v Speaker 4>zone AT u N. C but he's also good in gap.

0:41:16.280 --> 0:41:18.400
<v Speaker 4>Concept so it's, like you, know you just have to

0:41:18.440 --> 0:41:21.480
<v Speaker 4>sort of ballpark that stuff when you're you're ranking him

0:41:21.480 --> 0:41:21.600
<v Speaker 4>in a.

0:41:21.680 --> 0:41:23.680
<v Speaker 3>Vacuum For omari And, hampton IF i were to IF

0:41:23.680 --> 0:41:26.440
<v Speaker 3>i were to put any one player in the second

0:41:26.480 --> 0:41:28.680
<v Speaker 3>half of the draft on any one team AND i

0:41:28.800 --> 0:41:31.160
<v Speaker 3>had to get it, right my life's on the, line

0:41:32.120 --> 0:41:33.239
<v Speaker 3>it would Be hampton to The.

0:41:33.239 --> 0:41:35.960
<v Speaker 1>Broncos they're gonna take if he's, there don't you think? So?

0:41:36.320 --> 0:41:37.000
<v Speaker 1>YEAH i? Do?

0:41:37.239 --> 0:41:39.560
<v Speaker 4>YEAH i mean will he get to twenty is the?

0:41:39.640 --> 0:41:43.600
<v Speaker 4>Question or will will Mister peyton start to get antsy

0:41:43.680 --> 0:41:45.680
<v Speaker 4>if he you, know will will they move up, right

0:41:45.719 --> 0:41:48.600
<v Speaker 4>because there there are a couple other teams sniffing, around

0:41:48.640 --> 0:41:52.480
<v Speaker 4>and if genty goes super early where Whenever gent, goes

0:41:52.680 --> 0:41:55.640
<v Speaker 4>you're On hampton watch, Right and so it's like how

0:41:55.680 --> 0:41:56.919
<v Speaker 4>long will he linger out?

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<v Speaker 3>There so if genty goes, FIVE i don't think he's

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<v Speaker 3>Gonna i'm A i'm kind of off him on The

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<v Speaker 3>raiders right. Now If gent goes, five would you could To?

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<v Speaker 3>Jacksonville that's a pot that's the first possible landing, spot

0:42:07.440 --> 0:42:10.360
<v Speaker 3>or a team hoppin, yeah or maybe or maybe a

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<v Speaker 3>team goes, up but he's got to get by The

0:42:12.640 --> 0:42:16.360
<v Speaker 3>saints or. Possibility, right you, know as soon as genty

0:42:16.480 --> 0:42:19.239
<v Speaker 3>goes you're right that now running backs back on the

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<v Speaker 3>clock In dallas at, twelve.

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<v Speaker 4>Because i'm Saying dallas at twelve becomes a spot For. Hampton,

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah AND i think that's why that's become. Popular it's, like,

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<v Speaker 4>yeah If gent's off the board there for a, while

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<v Speaker 4>Would dallas? Wait would you wait until the second, round you,

0:42:31.560 --> 0:42:33.399
<v Speaker 4>know when when all the guys could get picked off

0:42:33.440 --> 0:42:34.800
<v Speaker 4>by that, point or you just take care of it

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<v Speaker 4>then now.

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<v Speaker 1>We're just wrapping draft. Stuff, yeah not even talking.

0:42:38.680 --> 0:42:41.120
<v Speaker 4>Quarterback, yeah, well, hey when are we going to get a?

0:42:41.200 --> 0:42:46.120
<v Speaker 4>Touchdown Tommy? Mallott yeah, Right, cops.

0:42:47.040 --> 0:42:50.440
<v Speaker 3>Your comps are so much fun because most people's comps

0:42:50.840 --> 0:42:55.319
<v Speaker 3>are like the best possible outcome for this, player and

0:42:55.560 --> 0:42:57.880
<v Speaker 3>you have comps Like JIM, sorgi.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah well, yeah wait on, Yeah Jim

0:43:01.120 --> 0:43:05.560
<v Speaker 4>sergey was The canadian Kid Taylor TAYLOR. Elgerzma, yeah a,

0:43:05.680 --> 0:43:08.160
<v Speaker 4>Touchdown Tommy. Malot we gave Him John rice. Plumbing but,

0:43:08.200 --> 0:43:10.400
<v Speaker 4>yeah The Montana state kids shout out to.

0:43:10.480 --> 0:43:11.399
<v Speaker 1>Them four three.

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<v Speaker 4>Nine Tommy malot ran in the pre draft. Process but

0:43:14.520 --> 0:43:17.680
<v Speaker 4>it's always. FUN, dj you our. FRIEND i commed him

0:43:17.680 --> 0:43:19.799
<v Speaker 4>To Jamie. Newman remember From Wake.

0:43:19.880 --> 0:43:23.719
<v Speaker 1>FOREST i don't, Remember Jamie. NEWMAN i haven't Breaking i've

0:43:23.719 --> 0:43:24.760
<v Speaker 1>been not been breaking, down.

0:43:24.719 --> 0:43:27.560
<v Speaker 4>Uh With Jamie newman And Sam hartman were at started

0:43:27.600 --> 0:43:29.839
<v Speaker 4>their careers together at Wake forest once upon a. TIME

0:43:29.880 --> 0:43:32.279
<v Speaker 4>i Know Jamie newman played Over Sam hartman and.

0:43:32.719 --> 0:43:33.040
<v Speaker 1>Wow.

0:43:33.120 --> 0:43:36.560
<v Speaker 4>Yeah but Then Jamie newman, declared and the restless, history the.

0:43:36.600 --> 0:43:39.160
<v Speaker 3>Fact that we're talking about anybody From Wake, Forest Harold

0:43:39.200 --> 0:43:40.680
<v Speaker 3>fannin's you, know that's the.

0:43:40.800 --> 0:43:41.560
<v Speaker 1>Rare it's the. Rare.

0:43:41.640 --> 0:43:44.759
<v Speaker 4>Rake what's the well fan And Bowling Green?

0:43:46.000 --> 0:43:50.520
<v Speaker 3>Forrest, yeah, shoot never, mind should just edit this, out

0:43:50.600 --> 0:43:51.040
<v Speaker 3>But i'm.

0:43:51.040 --> 0:43:53.759
<v Speaker 1>Not i'm probably not going to him lazy At perry Wake.

0:43:53.840 --> 0:43:55.440
<v Speaker 1>Forest oh, yeah, yeah there you.

0:43:55.480 --> 0:43:57.200
<v Speaker 3>Go all, Right so that that's WHAT i was gonna,

0:43:57.200 --> 0:43:59.200
<v Speaker 3>ask because who was the last relevant Wake forest?

0:43:59.200 --> 0:44:03.520
<v Speaker 1>Player? Yeah, yeah At perry is. Irrelevant, Yeah Max brosmer

0:44:03.640 --> 0:44:05.959
<v Speaker 1>gets gets. Drafted he's got a real.

0:44:06.000 --> 0:44:09.040
<v Speaker 4>Shot, yeah you, know usually we get somewhere twelve to fourteen.

0:44:09.239 --> 0:44:12.000
<v Speaker 4>Drafted HE'S qb twelve on my. Board maybe it'll BE

0:44:12.080 --> 0:44:14.319
<v Speaker 4>qb eleven on some other, ones thirteen somewhere in, there

0:44:14.320 --> 0:44:16.280
<v Speaker 4>but he is right on that cut. Line but, yeah

0:44:16.600 --> 0:44:18.719
<v Speaker 4>coin flip shot For max and maybe even a little

0:44:18.719 --> 0:44:19.719
<v Speaker 4>bit better to get.

0:44:19.760 --> 0:44:21.799
<v Speaker 3>Drafted, yeah you, know you get a you get an

0:44:21.840 --> 0:44:24.000
<v Speaker 3>accurate passer guy that can process the. Field he just

0:44:24.040 --> 0:44:26.200
<v Speaker 3>doesn't have an nfl arm to, me now that's a d.

0:44:26.400 --> 0:44:28.560
<v Speaker 3>Arm but but you get a lot of the other

0:44:28.560 --> 0:44:31.520
<v Speaker 3>intangibles that could make him somebody who won't lose a

0:44:31.560 --> 0:44:31.960
<v Speaker 3>game for.

0:44:32.040 --> 0:44:34.120
<v Speaker 4>You, yeah he's gonna hang around for a while because

0:44:34.160 --> 0:44:36.400
<v Speaker 4>he can Make he makes the quick decisions and he

0:44:36.480 --> 0:44:38.680
<v Speaker 4>makes good decisions with the. Ball he just is an

0:44:38.719 --> 0:44:40.600
<v Speaker 4>athletic and he doesn't have a big. Arm so it's

0:44:40.640 --> 0:44:42.480
<v Speaker 4>a lot of it's a lot of paper cut. Stuff

0:44:42.520 --> 0:44:45.080
<v Speaker 4>but he it's it's a guy that wouldn't necessarily crazy

0:44:45.120 --> 0:44:47.959
<v Speaker 4>Embarrass yeah when, yeah if he was thrown out there

0:44:48.360 --> 0:44:51.200
<v Speaker 4>due to, injury it's just your offense would have to change.

0:44:51.200 --> 0:44:54.000
<v Speaker 4>Obviously the spacing would constrict and on you real. Quick,

0:44:54.080 --> 0:44:55.440
<v Speaker 4>yeah the field gets shorter With.

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<v Speaker 1>Max that's.

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<v Speaker 3>It, yeah for, sure you are the best they talking

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<v Speaker 3>in two weeks after the first, round onto the.

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<v Speaker 1>Draft thanks for, listening. Everybody Fantasy Football weekly back next.

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