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Speaker 2: Now here's your host, Paul Chargion.
Speaker 3: Welcome to Fantasy Football Weekly, the last of five episodes
Speaker 3: with Thor Nystrom getting us ready for the draft.
Speaker 4: A big conclusion to the trilogy. What's five?
Speaker 1: It's not septology, I don't know. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we've broken down running backs and two shows. Then
Speaker 3: I think we went receiver, tight end.
Speaker 1: Now quarterback. Yeah, and then I've already I've already I'm
Speaker 1: not positive next week, but then the.
Speaker 3: Day after the draft, the Friday after the draft, you've
Speaker 3: got you've.
Speaker 1: After round one. Yep, we're going to hit that too,
Speaker 1: So you deserve a break.
Speaker 3: We haven't even nobody even knows who Scott Fish and
Speaker 3: Matt Harrison are anymore.
Speaker 1: Those guys haven't been on the show in so long. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and we're going to try to work in uh
Speaker 3: one of a new guy named Kent Wee Rock who
Speaker 3: has made one been on one other show maybe like
Speaker 3: a year ago. We're gonna try to get Kent into
Speaker 3: We're going into the rotation as well. I think you
Speaker 3: and Kent have you and Kent may have cross paths.
Speaker 1: At some point. Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 3: So here we are, we're only two weeks away from
Speaker 3: the Drafttheless, tell let's we're going to do quarterbacks.
Speaker 1: Let's start here.
Speaker 3: Where would this year's most promising quarterbacks, so that would
Speaker 3: be cam Ord Shadar Sanders. Where would they have ranked
Speaker 3: in last year's quarterback Leyden draft if they'd been coming out?
Speaker 1: Now? Where would they go? Between Caleb Williams and bow Nix?
Speaker 3: We had six quarterbacks taken last year, right, so where
Speaker 3: would these guys have slotted into last year's grading?
Speaker 1: For me?
Speaker 4: They would have been five and six? Okay, so you know.
Speaker 1: After McCarthy, before Nicks. What for me it was after May?
Speaker 1: But ok yeah, like my rank, it was.
Speaker 4: Right of course Coja and then Drake May. But I
Speaker 4: would you know, I would have had the top two
Speaker 4: guys of this class, the next two guys and then
Speaker 4: Pennix nixt after that.
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, all right, and that's the just every
Speaker 1: year is different, right, yeah?
Speaker 3: They you know these are you know, cam Ward is
Speaker 3: coming out in a weaker class, he's gonna go first overall.
Speaker 1: Probably. Yeah, yeah, that's right. And you know, a different
Speaker 1: year he might have gone tenth.
Speaker 4: Jonathan Brooks or Trey Benson in this running back.
Speaker 1: Class would have after thoughts.
Speaker 4: But yeah, they got pulled up because they were in
Speaker 4: a bad running back class. I put out a tweet
Speaker 4: today about how there are two true freshmen wide receivers
Speaker 4: are they're leaving their true freshman season, but if they
Speaker 4: were in this draft class, each of them would be
Speaker 4: wide receiver one if you don't count Travis Hunter as
Speaker 4: a wide receiver. Jeremiah Smith and Ryan Williams do.
Speaker 1: They both play for Ohio State.
Speaker 4: Jeremi Smith plays for the.
Speaker 1: Other run place for Alabama.
Speaker 4: Probably weren't going to predict that, but but yeah, you know,
Speaker 4: and it's cyclical. This wide receiver class is way down.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 4: In a couple of years we are going to have
Speaker 4: an epic wide receiver class. So it's just you know,
Speaker 4: all these position groups up down, updown.
Speaker 1: Give me a letter grade for the quarterback class. I'll
Speaker 1: go D, Yeah, probably D or D plus. Okay, Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's not like the Malik willis uh not the pick
Speaker 1: at year. It's not that bad. That was an F class. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: this is a D class. This is a D class.
Speaker 1: Let's see what we can learn about these players. First.
Speaker 1: I want to start here.
Speaker 3: Here's the teams I think that could take a quarterback
Speaker 3: day one or day two. Ye, so first two rounds,
Speaker 3: Jets they currently have justin fields.
Speaker 1: That's patchwork.
Speaker 3: Now they're paying fields two years forty million, so it's
Speaker 3: not nothing, but that's a patchwork solution.
Speaker 1: Yep. Browns.
Speaker 3: Obviously, people do not believe the Browns at pick two
Speaker 3: are going to take a quarterback.
Speaker 1: I don't believe they'll take a quarterback. Do you you
Speaker 1: think Browns take corder?
Speaker 4: Not at two, but uh, but it appears that they'll
Speaker 4: be taking one at some point.
Speaker 1: I think they will. Yeah. You know, after does not change,
Speaker 1: that's it.
Speaker 4: You know, after signing Flacco and then you have pick it,
Speaker 4: you have that opening for one guy, right like and
Speaker 4: I'm not talking about Deshaun Watson.
Speaker 1: So yeah it is.
Speaker 4: I mean my question is is that guy is it
Speaker 4: Kirk Cousins or has that been earmark for the rookie?
Speaker 4: But yeah, well we'll find out. And you know Cleveland
Speaker 4: picks it too.
Speaker 1: Well.
Speaker 4: You talked a lot about that. I think Travis Hunter
Speaker 4: is going there. But the thing is to Cleveland has
Speaker 4: an absolute war chest of draft equity. They have the
Speaker 4: thirty third pick, the first one in the second round,
Speaker 4: and then in the third round they have two picks.
Speaker 4: They have sixty seven, they have ninety four. They have
Speaker 4: one of the top picks in the fourth the second
Speaker 4: pick in the fourth round one oh four. They have
Speaker 4: the amo to move up potentially, and if you start
Speaker 4: to see Shader Sanders falling, that's their move watch out.
Speaker 3: I speculated about exactly that scenario today on KFA N.
Speaker 3: Could the Browns go thirty three to twenty to jump
Speaker 3: the Steelers to get Shadir Sanders.
Speaker 4: So in my last mock draft, I went two rounds.
Speaker 4: I had them going to fifteen trading with Atlanta, and
Speaker 4: the trade that jives even with baked in slight taxes
Speaker 4: for the move up and the slight tax for the
Speaker 4: quarterback move up, so you have like a double tax there.
Speaker 4: But the thing that would jive it is that thirty
Speaker 4: third pick sixty seven ninety four and then a fourth
Speaker 4: round pick next years as a sweetener that would drive
Speaker 4: it for the fifteen pick. So I think anything. Fifteen
Speaker 4: later they are in play to swing and move up
Speaker 4: to board.
Speaker 3: So you think Sanders and I'm seeing this increasingly. Not
Speaker 3: that long ago, Sanders was believed to be going in
Speaker 3: the top four or five picks of this drafty. What
Speaker 3: I'm seeing lately is a move of Shadur homing farther
Speaker 3: down the draft.
Speaker 1: Do you see it that way?
Speaker 4: I'll believe it when I see it, certainly, that's, you know,
Speaker 4: the way that the wind appears to be blowing right now.
Speaker 4: But there are a lot of false narratives out there
Speaker 4: about Shader, so it's it's sort of difficult to parse
Speaker 4: through what is the signal and what is the noise.
Speaker 1: A couple of the teams I can take quarterbacks.
Speaker 3: Steelers obviously still don't have the resolution on the Art
Speaker 3: Rodgers thing after all this, and either way, right regardless
Speaker 3: of it, they need it, they need it. Titans obviously
Speaker 3: at one they'll go quarterback. Giants at three they've got
Speaker 3: Russell Wilson, they got Jamis Winston. These guys are you know,
Speaker 3: between the two of them, there have six teams and
Speaker 3: three years, so that's not a solution for the Giants.
Speaker 3: Saints at nine might start doing some Derek car succession planning.
Speaker 3: I believe Seattle at eighteen. I know they just committed
Speaker 3: a ton of money to Sam Darnold, but kind of
Speaker 3: like the Vikings was, Sam, they might want it, you know,
Speaker 3: they may. I think that Seattle might want to have
Speaker 3: a backup plan ready, much like the Vikings did.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and there's oh, it's in that contract. You know
Speaker 4: where it's not. You know the outlay and and and
Speaker 4: and and you know it isn't significant and they would
Speaker 4: be able to get out of it if they wanted to.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yep, all right, So let's go through your your
Speaker 1: top quarterbacks.
Speaker 3: You're ready to dig in. Let's do it now. You
Speaker 3: have Shadure Sanders number one. I do this puts you
Speaker 3: out of lockstep with the majority. And I love that
Speaker 3: about you that you're willing to do that. Yeah, I
Speaker 3: love it. Just go with your go with your gut. Okay,
Speaker 3: well it's not just gut. You're gonna throw a bunch
Speaker 3: of facts at us. Your comp on Shudar Sanders Drew Breese.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm just a huge fan of Shadeer Sanders' game.
Speaker 4: The the placement and the accuracy are both elite and
Speaker 4: that's the thing that that will remind you of Drew Brees.
Speaker 4: I also like his ability to make people miss in
Speaker 4: the pocket. You know, people say, oh, Shuldeer Sanders isn't athletic,
Speaker 4: which is absurd. He you know, he's the son of
Speaker 4: one of the most athletic players in NFL history. We've
Speaker 4: also seen him outside of the pocket a few instances.
Speaker 4: When he does run. He's been clocked over ninety miles
Speaker 4: per hour on the GPS, even ran a four to
Speaker 4: six five coming out of high school. So some of
Speaker 4: the again, some of these narratives around Shadeer Sanders are
Speaker 4: just absolutely absurd. But he had the athleticism to make
Speaker 4: people miss in the pocket. That's what he's looking to
Speaker 4: do to extend. He notes that the guys crashing in
Speaker 4: the penetration immediately and he's able to sort of change
Speaker 4: his plan to facilitate that and extend the plays. He
Speaker 4: played behind terrible offensive lines last two years at Colorado
Speaker 4: without eight of a running game, so it's the defense
Speaker 4: knew what was coming every single time. I'm curious to
Speaker 4: see how much Shadeer's game plays up at the next
Speaker 4: level when he has a competent offensive line. Playing in
Speaker 4: front of him right where he doesn't have to move
Speaker 4: off of his spot immediately and extend and different stuff
Speaker 4: like that. But speaking to the accuracy eighty one point
Speaker 4: eight adjusted accuracy percentage last year, that was five points high.
Speaker 4: Really I think cam Ward, Yeah, it was number two
Speaker 4: amongst all BS quarterbacks. He also takes care of the ball,
Speaker 4: Shahdeer Sanders does not put it up for grabs last
Speaker 4: year number three and turnover worthy play rate cam Ward's
Speaker 4: was almost three times higher.
Speaker 1: Right, So with Shadeer.
Speaker 4: Sanders, it's a very even ride. You know, you get
Speaker 4: the steady eddy thing. You get a guy again accuracy placement,
Speaker 4: it's a chain mover who takes care of the ball.
Speaker 4: He's not going to turn it over for you, so
Speaker 4: you're taking a profit every single play. Cam Orders will
Speaker 4: talk about in a second is a bit more of
Speaker 4: a roller coaster ride his game. But yeah, I'm a
Speaker 4: huge fan of Shadeer Sanders' game.
Speaker 1: Okay, few mistakes for for a guy who was under
Speaker 1: pressure a lot ninety seventh percentile in avoiding negative throws, yep.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know he gets a lot of crap for
Speaker 4: the sack numbers. But again, when you look at the
Speaker 4: preponderance of pressures per snap on him, and then you
Speaker 4: look at his ability to take care of the ball
Speaker 4: like that, I think that there are contextual things that
Speaker 4: you can point to that are impressive as far as
Speaker 4: the decision making under duress.
Speaker 1: So from a fantasy standpoint, for Shagar Sanders.
Speaker 3: Feels like a high floor guy, not necessarily a high
Speaker 3: ceiling fantasy producer.
Speaker 1: Now, Drew Brees was both. I mean, if he could
Speaker 1: actually turn out to be Drew Brees, obviously he can
Speaker 1: do both. Drew was never mobile, but drew through one
Speaker 1: of the most catchable passes in the NFL, and it
Speaker 1: had amazing seasons with tons of yards and touchdowns. Do
Speaker 1: you view it that way?
Speaker 3: As Shuldear Sanders as a high floor prospect more than
Speaker 3: a high ceiling prospect.
Speaker 4: Super high floor, but I think his ceilings higher than
Speaker 4: people give him credit for. You know what I mean too,
Speaker 4: Drew Brees coming out of Purdue, he fell to the
Speaker 4: second round.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he did, right, so today when Tomlinson breeze that year, yeah,
Speaker 1: and it turned out okay.
Speaker 4: Yeah, And it wasn't even because NFL head coaches were
Speaker 4: scared to draft him because they were afraid his dad
Speaker 4: was going to take his job the next year, like
Speaker 4: is the case of Shadeer Sanders, which is where I
Speaker 4: think most of this nonsense is coming from. And if
Speaker 4: there is any trepidation inside NFL buildings, I think it's
Speaker 4: coming from from coaches that are afraid, Like, man, if
Speaker 4: we if we draft this kid and then we start
Speaker 4: it's slow, next year, they're gonna be coming pitchforks in
Speaker 4: front of the stadium wanting coach prime.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 4: I think that's where some of this stuffs coming from.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Well, in an ideal scenario for Sanders to be great,
Speaker 3: if he didn't go drop to that point, be great,
Speaker 3: if he didn't drop to a team that had to
Speaker 3: start him week one necessarily. You know, if you could
Speaker 3: get into a situation where you can learn on the job.
Speaker 3: Maybe there was another quarterback there. I don't know, a
Speaker 3: safer spot. I guess it doesn't It doesn't really matter.
Speaker 3: We'll see how we'll see how it plays out.
Speaker 1: Let's go to your number two quarterback. That's cam Ward.
Speaker 3: Most people think he's gonna go first overall, and you
Speaker 3: do too, right, Yeah, sure, Okay, your comp here is
Speaker 3: Jordan Love. There's a lot to like about Cam Word,
Speaker 3: especially that arm. I feel like he can really reach
Speaker 3: all parts of the field.
Speaker 4: Definitely. Yeah, he's he's got a great arm. He's got
Speaker 4: a fascinating backstor. He was a wing tea quarterback in
Speaker 4: high school and he got overlooked and and you know,
Speaker 4: and you know, on the recruiting trailer or whatever.
Speaker 1: But he sort of learned.
Speaker 4: He sort of has a style of his own as
Speaker 4: a quarterback because of this, you know, because he was
Speaker 4: sort of built from scratch when he got to campus
Speaker 4: at Incarnate Word initially, but he has played an air
Speaker 4: raid offenses throughout it. So it's funny for a kid
Speaker 4: that never played in a traditional passing offense up until
Speaker 4: when he arrived on campus, he threw more air raid
Speaker 4: passes on campus than any quarterback in the history of
Speaker 4: college football. Wow, right, because he had that long career
Speaker 4: and he was in an air raid every single year.
Speaker 4: Last year it was the modified version of that with
Speaker 4: Shannon Dawson and before that with Eric Morris both at
Speaker 4: Incarnate Word and Washington State. It was the more directly
Speaker 4: the Mike Leech one, the godfather your air raid traditional
Speaker 4: sort of a thing. But yeah, Cam Word you get
Speaker 4: a lot of cool things with the armslot. He's one
Speaker 4: of those guys. You know, you get the three quarters,
Speaker 4: you can get the side arm, big time velocity. You
Speaker 4: love that he can push the ball down the field.
Speaker 4: Of course, he's a risk taker. He's a riverboat gambler
Speaker 4: kind of a guy. And there's great things about that,
Speaker 4: and there's bad things about that, and and you know,
Speaker 4: you get the explosive plays. Absolutely, his explosive to play
Speaker 4: rate very very high last year. But my whole thing
Speaker 4: with him and how I see his evaluation as the
Speaker 4: explosive plays and the inclination leading to those, it's the
Speaker 4: same thing that is leading to the turnover wherey plays
Speaker 4: right like putting the ball up for grabs. He has
Speaker 4: a tendency to attempt passes that other people would not,
Speaker 4: and he trusts his arm implicitly. But again, sometimes you
Speaker 4: see him attempt passes that cannot be completed. One thing,
Speaker 4: when he's scrambling around, he hates to throw the ball away.
Speaker 4: He doesn't like to say die on a play, so
Speaker 4: when he's getting close to the line of scrimmage, he
Speaker 4: will chuck it up. And sometimes you'll see him trying
Speaker 4: to throw to the third sector of the field outside
Speaker 4: the opposite hash and then safe, the free safety will
Speaker 4: come across and grab the ball in the middle of
Speaker 4: the field and flip it on him. So but it's like,
Speaker 4: you know, to cut that down, you're gonna be, in
Speaker 4: my opinion, cutting down his explosive plays in direct conjuncture.
Speaker 4: It's sort of like the Brett fav Corlarry where one
Speaker 4: goes with the other. So, Kim Woord, I have him
Speaker 4: number two as a QB like I do like him,
Speaker 4: But but you're gonna have to live with those turnovers
Speaker 4: in the NFL as well.
Speaker 3: So now all that said, I noted this from your
Speaker 3: article Fantasy Life. Over the years, his turnover worthy plays
Speaker 3: never increased. He was a steady His turnover worthy plays
Speaker 3: remained steady and pretty low throughout his entire career.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but how much higher can you get the explosive
Speaker 4: play rate? Like I do appreciate that he kept it there.
Speaker 4: Well the you know he started and a part of
Speaker 4: this with Dawson as well, and the playmakers that he
Speaker 4: had to work with last year at Miami like previously,
Speaker 4: you know at Wazoo, he didn't have quite the weapons,
Speaker 4: but you got to go a bit more aerial because
Speaker 4: of the way that that system design. I do appreciate
Speaker 4: that about his game. But the turnover worthy play rate,
Speaker 4: it is elevated, and yeah, he kept it static well
Speaker 4: while getting the explosive play rate up. But it's you
Speaker 4: know again, it's three times what Shadier Sanders was last year.
Speaker 3: Yeah, all right, so that's number one and two. Do
Speaker 3: you believe another quarterback will be taken in the first
Speaker 3: round before we get to your third guy?
Speaker 1: Yeah? I do.
Speaker 3: All right, where's your landing spot for who I assume
Speaker 3: will be Jackson Dart Pittsburgh? I think so, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: all right, twenty one?
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I think so unless that's Millroe. But the
Speaker 4: the you know, and Milroe got invited.
Speaker 1: To the draft, so there is Isn't that interesting?
Speaker 4: There is a mystery team in on Millroy?
Speaker 1: Right, I said that doesn't happen by accident.
Speaker 4: I sent a lot of text messages on that tried
Speaker 4: to trying to track down what was going on there.
Speaker 4: It is all quiet on the Western front.
Speaker 1: Nobody swelt we're so close to the draft.
Speaker 4: Somebody knows something, but nobody talking.
Speaker 3: And there's only like thirteen kids to the draft, right,
Speaker 3: and they've been trying to cut it down because they
Speaker 3: don't want to embarrass the want embarrassed the kids. Yeah,
Speaker 3: so why do you why invite Jalen Milroe unless you.
Speaker 1: There is a mystery?
Speaker 4: Darn confidence there's a mystery. Now now you know a
Speaker 4: lot of people they're making the connection with Pittsburgh and
Speaker 4: that makes sense on on a lot of different you know, uh,
Speaker 4: the ways of looking at it. However, Pittsburgh, what was
Speaker 4: that class that he talked about with two three years ago?
Speaker 4: They had the option to take a Malik Willis over
Speaker 4: Kenny Pickett. They took Kenny Pickett over Malik Willis. Right,
Speaker 4: Jalen Milroe has a lot of stylistic similarities to Malik
Speaker 4: Willis as a prospect coming in. So now would Pittsburgh
Speaker 4: would they take Jalen Milroe a couple of years later
Speaker 4: over Jackson Dart If that was a decision that it
Speaker 4: came down to, I'm not sure about that. So I
Speaker 4: tend to think that it is another mystery team that's
Speaker 4: in a mill Roe. But we'll find out.
Speaker 3: I'll give you a mystery team that could that could
Speaker 3: be targeting a quarterback at the end of the first round,
Speaker 3: let's hear it rams, Okay, right, succession planning, Yeah, for
Speaker 3: Matthew Stafford would make sense.
Speaker 4: Yeah, they I would think they would be more of
Speaker 4: the fit for Dart than I did too.
Speaker 1: I don't think. Yeah, it doesn't feel that fit there.
Speaker 1: It doesn't stylistically.
Speaker 3: But that's a team that would make sense and pretty
Speaker 3: you know, but pretty much all the rest of the
Speaker 3: teams that are at the bottom of the the first round,
Speaker 3: of course, are set at quarterback for the long term.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so I don't know.
Speaker 3: Yeah, all right, let's go to Jackson Dart. He's your
Speaker 3: number three ranked quarterback from Ole Miss.
Speaker 1: Your comp here is Gardner Minshew.
Speaker 3: All right, Which I say that like you're attacking Jackson Dart,
Speaker 3: but that I don't think that's quite what you're getting
Speaker 3: at here.
Speaker 4: No, I just have, you know, some questions about the
Speaker 4: evaluation where I can't get to where somebody like he
Speaker 4: won't be a first round pick on my board personally
Speaker 4: of him as like a top half of the second
Speaker 4: round kind.
Speaker 1: Of a guy.
Speaker 4: But he's a really difficult evaluation because the physical ability,
Speaker 4: the athleticism to frame the arm talent, and the pedigree
Speaker 4: and statistical profile that sort of stuff. All that stuff
Speaker 4: would point you to this is a first round prospect. Yeah,
Speaker 4: but he played in the Cotton Candy scheme the offense
Speaker 4: for Lane Kiffen where it's all the pre snap stuff.
Speaker 4: Your decision is given to you in advance, and he
Speaker 4: very rarely went off the first read, so a lot
Speaker 4: of time again, the decision made before the snap. You
Speaker 4: just have to make the good throw at that point.
Speaker 4: But he would miss whether it's open guys or I
Speaker 4: you know, I saw instances of several on his film
Speaker 4: of there'd be one dude on one side of the
Speaker 4: field in one on one coverage, there's nobody else there.
Speaker 4: He wouldn't even see it because he'd be trying to
Speaker 4: muscle the ball into his first read in triple coverage.
Speaker 4: So it's like, and you know, I can't say he
Speaker 4: can't read the field. He ran Lane Kiffin's system effectively,
Speaker 4: super effectively. It's just a black box of his evaluation
Speaker 4: where you can't play offense in the NFL the way
Speaker 4: that Lane Kiffin and Ole Miss played their offense. So
Speaker 4: you have to make decisions after the snap in the NFL,
Speaker 4: once you have gotten information from what the defense is doing.
Speaker 4: Post snap that's just stuff we haven't seen from Jackson
Speaker 4: Dart yet.
Speaker 1: So because of that black box, I have to.
Speaker 4: Knock him down from where you know, that other stuff
Speaker 4: where that would typically point to. I do like his arm,
Speaker 4: I like his athleticism. But in the profile too, there
Speaker 4: are a couple scary things that I can point two
Speaker 4: where it's like where you know, I can sort of
Speaker 4: justify my trepidation. One of them is on pressures. Jackson
Speaker 4: Dart of the top ten or so you know, of
Speaker 4: the relevant quarterbacks in this class, he actually had this
Speaker 4: highest scramble rate last year and it wasn't really even close.
Speaker 1: You might think it would be Jalen Milroe.
Speaker 4: Jalen Milroe might have been the year before because they
Speaker 4: let him run a little bit more, but Jackson Dart
Speaker 4: had a very elevated scramble rate. And it sort of
Speaker 4: reminds you of remember Sam Howell coming out of U NCY.
Speaker 4: I liked Sam Howell, yeah, and that, you know, especially
Speaker 4: that last year he just scrambled so much. I mean
Speaker 4: he ran for dang near a thousand yards and and
Speaker 4: you know what you sort of saw there was when
Speaker 4: the first option wasn't there instead of creating you know,
Speaker 4: and and sort of going through the progression line. Sam
Speaker 4: holl would just tuck and run. I've seen too much
Speaker 4: of that with Jackson Dart.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, at this time last year, I was worried
Speaker 1: that bow Nicks was a first read passer, and you know,
Speaker 1: he was much like how you were describing Jackson Dart,
Speaker 1: where he was just he'd thrown to double coverage, thrown
Speaker 1: the covered receivers as his first.
Speaker 3: Read too much for my liking. Say, Bonex turned out okay,
Speaker 3: So you know, it can be coached. It can be
Speaker 3: coached out of you, and maybe Dart's got the talent
Speaker 3: for that. You noted his Jackson darts best area is
Speaker 3: the middle of the field, the intermediate level pass the.
Speaker 1: Part of this stuff that I like, yeah a lot.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's the deeper throws that I think he struggles with, right, Yeah.
Speaker 4: You know when when the first read is not there,
Speaker 4: because a lot of times that he's getting he knows
Speaker 4: it's going to be one on one coverage on the
Speaker 4: dude going deal. A lot of times it was Trey Harris.
Speaker 4: Trey Harris the only runs the straight routes. You know,
Speaker 4: he's nothing side to side or whatever. But like when
Speaker 4: he would get those dialed up for him, it was
Speaker 4: always in one on one coverage. He doesn't do good,
Speaker 4: especially when he's going to the other side of the field.
Speaker 4: But yeah, he doesn't have a howitzer, but it's certainly
Speaker 4: above average arm strength and where at most manifests, it's
Speaker 4: getting the velocity on the tights iro to the receivers
Speaker 4: in the intermediate range, which which is the thing that
Speaker 4: most evokes the NFL type throws in his profile.
Speaker 3: Let's go to your number four ranked quarterback, and that
Speaker 3: is the aforementioned Jalen Milroe. Your comp here is Malik Willis.
Speaker 3: So you're getting an elite rusher, yeah, and Jalen Milroe
Speaker 3: and a very incomplete passer.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 4: This is another tough evail, but obviously for different reasons.
Speaker 4: Even my QB three Milroe was earlier this process. I
Speaker 4: did toggle dart ahead of them. But they're close. But
Speaker 4: the evails are they're they're just different. Mill Row, he's
Speaker 4: he's got the small hands, you know he was.
Speaker 1: It was eight eight and.
Speaker 4: Three quarters eight and three quarters, yeah, which we have.
Speaker 4: We don't have much precedent for quarterbacks with hand side
Speaker 4: like that.
Speaker 1: Come.
Speaker 3: I think your article said, there's no starting quarterback in
Speaker 3: the NFL that has a hands that small.
Speaker 1: And the last one who tried was Kenny Picks.
Speaker 4: Was Kenny work Yeah nine. The only one really you
Speaker 4: can evote historically to is Michael Vick, who people forget
Speaker 4: its eight and a half inches not remember that at all.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so he had he had.
Speaker 4: The small hands, but he still had that Howarzer downfield now,
Speaker 4: Jaln Milroe, he is tremendous downfield that uh you know,
Speaker 4: the passes he gets down there, he has all the
Speaker 4: arm strength in the world. He also has really good
Speaker 4: touchdown there. When he gets the one on one, looks
Speaker 4: and dials it up, he usually gets the best of it.
Speaker 4: That his statistics on those were insane. I'm trying to
Speaker 4: find it in my in my sheet here. But the
Speaker 4: problem is comprom to Happy Gilmour because it's you know,
Speaker 4: it's he can hit the ball a country mile, but
Speaker 4: he can't put It's the stuff in the intermediate, the
Speaker 4: short area of the field within nineteen yards of the
Speaker 4: line of scrimmage thirteen to thirteen TDI and T rate
Speaker 4: the last couple of years. And this is why Kaylen
Speaker 4: de Boer essentially shoved out Jaln Milroe. It's why Jaln
Speaker 4: Milroe is in the draft now. I don't know if
Speaker 4: he wanted to turn pro right now, but Alabama didn't
Speaker 4: want him back right like he was not good enough
Speaker 4: in the pocket. And Kaylen de Boor, by the way,
Speaker 4: he has a history of turning guy into pocket passers
Speaker 4: that are good at this, so when he started working
Speaker 4: with Milroe, it's like, oh, this could be nice. Caitlin
Speaker 4: de Boor, recall, is the guy that began with Michael
Speaker 4: Pennox at Indiana when Michael Pennix was just the ball
Speaker 4: of clay, and de bor got him a couple of
Speaker 4: years there, got him a couple years of Washington, and
Speaker 4: all of a sudden, Michael Pennix is a top ten quarterback.
Speaker 4: So it was like, oh, that's gonna happen with Milroe.
Speaker 4: He could not get Milroe to do that stuff, and
Speaker 4: then it became a problem because de Boor tried to
Speaker 4: pin him into the pocket and the way they got
Speaker 4: Milroe back with his legs. They did way more designed
Speaker 4: runs last year than they'd done the year before under
Speaker 4: Tommy Reese. But in the passing concepts, when a passing
Speaker 4: play was called de Boor wanted that ball out, and
Speaker 4: that's you started to get some friction there and down
Speaker 4: the stretch. I don't know what's going on in there
Speaker 4: building Alabama, but after Alabama beat Georgia at the end
Speaker 4: of September, Milroe looked like he was going to be
Speaker 4: the first overall pick in this class. And then after
Speaker 4: that the wheels totally came off, both for mill and
Speaker 4: the Alabama offense. And I think it was that push
Speaker 4: and pull of Milroe wanting to keep his game but
Speaker 4: then de Boor wanting him to run the de Boer offense,
Speaker 4: and it just was not a very good fit. Five
Speaker 4: and four finish over the last nine games, Milroe six
Speaker 4: to ten TD nin and T rate in those nine games.
Speaker 4: But if you get Milroe in a different syst that
Speaker 4: this goes. You know the Lamar Jackson thing, right, Like,
Speaker 4: Milroe is not the exact same thing as Lamar Jackson.
Speaker 4: And I will say Lamar Jackson ran the Earhart Perkins
Speaker 4: system when he was at Louisville. That's the offensive system
Speaker 4: that Bill Parcells ran for the Giants, his offensive system
Speaker 4: Bill Belichick and Tom Brady they did with the Patriots.
Speaker 4: So he ran a pro style system for Patrino at Louisville.
Speaker 4: Lamar Jackson did. Only last year Milroe started. You know,
Speaker 4: it was the Michael Pennox offense.
Speaker 1: Whatever.
Speaker 4: But in the whole point being going to the NFL,
Speaker 4: they're gonna have to be some modifications in the offensive
Speaker 4: system to facilitate success for Jaln Milroe, especially initially while
Speaker 4: you're trying to teach him the short and intermediate stuff,
Speaker 4: the anticipatory asses, the timing stuff.
Speaker 1: All right, let's move to your your number five And
Speaker 1: by the way, you know Milrall's gonna be tempting from
Speaker 1: a fantasy standpoint because of the athleticism the running.
Speaker 4: Runs in the four three, is it right? Two hundred
Speaker 4: and twenty plus pounds. Tremendous athlete, Yeah, and a great,
Speaker 4: great runner.
Speaker 1: He's gotta be.
Speaker 3: The passing has to get so much better that I
Speaker 3: worry that he's going to be a career backup.
Speaker 1: You'll like your comp Malik Willis, Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's
Speaker 1: that's certainly the fear. Yep.
Speaker 3: All right, let's go to your number five ranked quarterback
Speaker 3: Kyle McCord formerly from Ohio State then Syrahcuse.
Speaker 1: He got forced out by Will Howard. Your comp here
Speaker 1: is Kirk Cousins.
Speaker 4: Yeah, if there's if there's a sleeper in this class,
Speaker 4: you know what, everybody's got the same consensus top four,
Speaker 4: but if there's a sleeper in this class, it turns
Speaker 4: into a starter. I don't think everyone else has Tyler
Speaker 4: Shuck for this.
Speaker 1: Yeah. For me, it's it's Kyle McCord. Kyle McCord.
Speaker 4: I really like the way that he sees the field.
Speaker 4: I like the way that he challenges defenses. He denotes
Speaker 4: the coverage scheme really really quickly, and he will attack that.
Speaker 4: It's the thing Cousins, you know, coming out of Michigan
Speaker 4: State obviously wasn't a good athlete, and he didn't have
Speaker 4: the howitzer for an arm so so he sort of
Speaker 4: gets nippicked and ends up going on day three and McCord,
Speaker 4: it's it's sort of the same thing. You know, it's
Speaker 4: a decent frame six three two twenty four, but yeah,
Speaker 4: it's average ish, maybe slightly above average arm strength, but
Speaker 4: but no better than that. And then again you're you're
Speaker 4: confined to the pocket. But that gumptionhit he has within
Speaker 4: the pocket pushing the ball down the field when he
Speaker 4: has the best of it. I like all that sort
Speaker 4: of stuff. Last year he's also very good under pressure.
Speaker 4: He's gotten good under pressure. It's a part of his
Speaker 4: game that's improved, improved, improved last year. Number four PFF
Speaker 4: passing great under pressure. That it's it's one of those
Speaker 4: metrics that I look at. I like the quarterbacks who
Speaker 4: their their game doesn't creter when they're under duress. It
Speaker 4: typically projects better to the NFL. And then McCord had won.
Speaker 4: He had one game, so last year he it was weird.
Speaker 4: You know, the year before he's at Ohio State, he
Speaker 4: played with all these superstars, and then Ohio State was
Speaker 4: like hit the road, kid, we're gonna bring in Will Howard.
Speaker 4: And then McCord goes a Syracuse. He's not playing with
Speaker 4: nearly as much talent, but his game jumped up. It
Speaker 4: was sort of like he was unshackled from having to
Speaker 4: run the Ohio State system. You know, it's sort of contradictory,
Speaker 4: but that ended up being the case and he could
Speaker 4: sort of become his own man. He was tremendous in
Speaker 4: twelve games last year. Horrific in one. Yeah, the Pittsburg
Speaker 4: Hide the women, yes, exactly, hide the women and children
Speaker 4: in that one. He threw five interceptions in that including
Speaker 4: three first half pick sixes, but thirty four to seven
Speaker 4: TD nine t rate in the other twelve games, again
Speaker 4: at Syracuse. So I like his game and I think
Speaker 4: that there's more potential there maybe than he's getting credit for.
Speaker 3: Calm m accord, your your story. At Fantasy Life notes,
Speaker 3: he finished number three among quarterbacks in PFF's wins above
Speaker 3: Average metric.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and he led FBS and big time throws. Yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah. It's because of the gumption thing, right like, and
Speaker 4: he just notices the coverage so quickly. And that's the
Speaker 4: thing that I really appreciate about his game. And he
Speaker 4: is not afraid, not afraid to push the ball down
Speaker 4: the field, especially down the seams. He really was hurting
Speaker 4: people with those they had Gadson with Syracuse State. You know,
Speaker 4: they would do cool stuff with slots on both sides,
Speaker 4: and when he got the look he wanted down the seam,
Speaker 4: he's letting that thing rip and he can put it
Speaker 4: on the hands there and lead the guy up the field.
Speaker 3: All Right, I've got one more quarterback that I want
Speaker 3: to do the full breakdown on, and then i'd like
Speaker 3: you to give me one fantasy relevant sleeper.
Speaker 1: That's Will Howard, who he just mentioned.
Speaker 3: So he assumed the starting role for Ohio State. Your
Speaker 3: comp here's Mason Rudolph. And I think you know, for
Speaker 3: Will Howard, he gets dinged just because of the amazing
Speaker 3: talent around him to some degree.
Speaker 1: And how much of that do you think is fair?
Speaker 1: It's fair Will Howard. There are certain things about his evaluation.
Speaker 1: I like, right, like, he's huge.
Speaker 4: You know, six' four and a quarter to thirty, six
Speaker 4: and he's got THE a to eight raz moves around.
Speaker 4: Well and earlier in his career At Kansas state we
Speaker 4: got to see him running around a little bit more
Speaker 4: because that offensive. System he also has a decent arm you,
Speaker 4: know as actually in The College Football playoff you start
Speaker 4: to see him get more effective with, that pushing the
Speaker 4: ball down the field To Jeremiah smith and the receivers
Speaker 4: that they had. THERE i my issue with his evaluation
Speaker 4: is it's a guy who's older at twenty four to twenty.
Speaker 4: Five With Will, howard he was in college for a,
Speaker 4: while whose mechanics are still. Messy And i'll give him
Speaker 4: credit and see he has improved those AND i saw
Speaker 4: improvement even last, season but it's still not fine tuned.
Speaker 4: Enough and because of that you see errancy when he
Speaker 4: starts to lose those, mechanics or when his upper body
Speaker 4: is not married to his lower, body and and and
Speaker 4: those sorts of, things it plays down the throwing ability.
Speaker 4: There so that's that's my issue with. Him and if
Speaker 4: he hasn't gotten there, yet it's like he get there.
Speaker 3: Exactly, Yeah and given the opportunities that he's, Had Will
Speaker 3: howard has one thing that makes me really interested in
Speaker 3: him from a fantasy. Standpoint he would be a tush push.
Speaker 3: Monster he would if he can find his way into
Speaker 3: a starting job as a just a good enough, passer
Speaker 3: he could rack up double digit touchdowns on toosh pushes
Speaker 3: in the right, system bring them.
Speaker 4: In, yeah maybe he's a designated douche. Pusher, Yeah and,
Speaker 4: like you, KNOW i think you'll have a career as a.
Speaker 1: Backup you.
Speaker 4: Know, again it reminds me Of Mason. Rudolph Mason rudolph
Speaker 4: when he had the look that he wanted and stuff
Speaker 4: like that At Oklahoma. State he could push the ball
Speaker 4: down the. Field he was, big he was, athletic but,
Speaker 4: yeah reading the field sometimes under duress and then the
Speaker 4: mechanical thing tweaks with. That but, yeah you get a
Speaker 4: potential backup guy, development even IF i don't think he
Speaker 4: has a starter, upside you get some utility there potentially
Speaker 4: With beldozer type at the goal.
Speaker 3: Line all, Right so he's being Connected Will howard because
Speaker 3: his offensive coordinator Was Chip kelly last year and he's
Speaker 3: now with The, raiders and The raiders Have Geno smith
Speaker 3: and they Extended Gino, Smith SO i, mean you, know
Speaker 3: for the next couple.
Speaker 1: Of years, anyway they're set.
Speaker 3: There But i'm Seeing howard mock To Las vegas at
Speaker 3: like fourth round pick hundred and. Eight do you think
Speaker 3: That's is there anything there we just looking, for you,
Speaker 3: know any CONNECTION.
Speaker 1: I could see.
Speaker 4: That, YEAH i mean he's gonna. Go, yeah he's either
Speaker 4: going to go fourth or fifth. ROUND i think, so,
Speaker 4: yeah one of those. Spots and it wouldn't make sense
Speaker 4: With Las vegas for, sure with what the scenario.
Speaker 1: Is is there anybody else you've broken down like twenty,
Speaker 1: quarterbacks we've only hit. Six is there.
Speaker 3: Anybody else you think has got the potential for fantasy
Speaker 3: relevance not just like this? Guy could you know be
Speaker 3: AN nfl, backup but like somebody THAT i could throw
Speaker 3: my late third round dynasty pick at and you, know
Speaker 3: there's a ten percent chance he pays off as a
Speaker 3: starter at some.
Speaker 4: Point on the other guy we hadn't discussed you could
Speaker 4: toss out for that would Be Tyler. Shuck And Tyler
Speaker 4: shuck he's even, bigger and he's, well he's, taller and
Speaker 4: he's a better athlete Than Will.
Speaker 1: Howard he has the physical.
Speaker 4: Package and again there's people in the draft community that
Speaker 4: absolutely Love Tyler. Shuck i'm not going to be the
Speaker 4: one banging the table for him because they focus on
Speaker 4: last year and they focus on his recruiting pedigree and
Speaker 4: then of course the the athletic, profile WHEREAS i also
Speaker 4: considered the previous was it five seasons where he had
Speaker 4: the multiple you know At oregon his first year red,
Speaker 4: shirt but then when he took over For, herbert they
Speaker 4: benched him right away because he wasn't seeing the field,
Speaker 4: well he wasn't good under. Pressure then he went To
Speaker 4: Texas tech and he had three straight season ending injuries
Speaker 4: or injuries the rec, seasons so you have durability concerns,
Speaker 4: there and then it wasn't a guy that broke out
Speaker 4: until whatever seventh college she's so it's, like, YEAH i,
Speaker 4: MEAN i know he has some arm, talent AND i
Speaker 4: know he was sawid last, year and he's obviously has
Speaker 4: the prototypical frame and he's.
Speaker 1: ATHLETIC i just like him as a.
Speaker 4: Backup is the thing that inoculates him against one of
Speaker 4: the black marks on his. Evaluation it's the durability. Thing
Speaker 4: and then also at that elevated, age not having the
Speaker 4: breakout until the very. End and by the, way he
Speaker 4: was playing For Jeff, brohm who is a super underrated
Speaker 4: quarterback whisperer who sent several quarterbacks to THE nfl From.
Speaker 4: PERDUE i, mean none of them were, superstar but every
Speaker 4: single quarterback he had he was sent into THE. Nfl
Speaker 4: So i'm just a little bit lower on. Shuck but
Speaker 4: if he got into the situation where he's a backup
Speaker 4: and the starter gets, hurt he can move around a little,
Speaker 4: bit so maybe he would score a couple of. Touchdowns
Speaker 4: another guy in THAT ilk i'll toss out Is Riley.
Speaker 4: Leonard I've Riley leonard eleven BECAUSE i don't like him
Speaker 4: as a. Thrower he can't throw down the. FIELD i
Speaker 4: comp him to Righty Tim tebow because it's you, know
Speaker 4: some of that. Stuff but he is a very good,
Speaker 4: runner and so if he ever found himself in this
Speaker 4: situation where he was the backup and then the starter got,
Speaker 4: hurt you would see a lot of running For Riley
Speaker 4: leonard as you did in The National title, game where it's, Like,
Speaker 4: riley you're our. Offense you're just gonna, run, run. Run
Speaker 4: the first, drive it actually. Worked it didn't work after.
Speaker 4: That but he's a tough. Kid he's, athletic BUT i
Speaker 4: do think that there's limitation beyond. That but he could
Speaker 4: score some touchdowns in THE.
Speaker 1: Nfl this is all really good.
Speaker 3: Stuff as we break down the rookie, CLASS i want
Speaker 3: to talk to you about a different first year. Starter
Speaker 3: i'm doing A i'm doing a, slow a slow best
Speaker 3: ball draft right. Now i'm gonna be on the clock
Speaker 3: in about eight. PICKS i Have Jayden daniels as my,
Speaker 3: quarterback one who he took in like the second or third.
Speaker 3: Round it's now ROUND i think ten or. ELEVEN jj
Speaker 3: McCarthy is still. There tell Me, omar Say, omar, RIGHT
Speaker 3: i mean you know this is a great. BACKUP i
Speaker 3: want Let's i'd like you to give, me presuming he
Speaker 3: plays the entire, season which is always how we look at.
Speaker 3: It we're never, like, hey this guy's gonna miss half
Speaker 3: a season with. INJURY jj, McCarthy give me his passing
Speaker 3: yards and, touchdowns and THEN i would like you to
Speaker 3: give me his rushing yards and, touchdowns WHICH i think
Speaker 3: way too many people are missing the boat on his
Speaker 3: mobility and how The vikings could use him that. Way
Speaker 3: and just Because kevin O'Connell hasn't run with his, QUARTERBACKS
Speaker 3: i think that's been reflective more of his quarterbacks than
Speaker 3: then scheme.
Speaker 1: Necessarily, well let's say.
Speaker 4: THIS i think he's going to be a top ten
Speaker 4: fantasy quarterback next, year and he's gonna score rushing, touchdowns
Speaker 4: you KNOW i, mean and he's gonna get more rushing
Speaker 4: yards than people. Think super athletic kid RAN. I i
Speaker 4: had information that he ran in the high four fours At.
Speaker 4: Michigan kevin O'Connell said that he ran in the low four.
Speaker 4: FIVES i we won't know that That's kevin O'Connell TEASES JJ.
Speaker 1: Bo, well because he.
Speaker 4: Didn't run the forty during the precraft, process but what
Speaker 4: he did do was he had the six fastest three
Speaker 4: cone irregardless of position at the twenty twenty FOUR Nfl.
Speaker 4: Combine super duper athletic. Kid he usually he uses that
Speaker 4: you know in the pocket to buy time and then
Speaker 4: he's tremendous throwing on the. Run but a part of
Speaker 4: his game is getting to the perimeter of what you,
Speaker 4: know when there is. Penetration, yeah when he, started you,
Speaker 4: know starts to buy time offscra and he'll, yeah he'll
Speaker 4: keep the mechanics with. Him but if a look isn't
Speaker 4: there when he gets to the line of, scrimmage Unlike
Speaker 4: Shadeer sanders who stops on a dime there and then
Speaker 4: waits that you, know for someone to get, open or
Speaker 4: Unlike Cam moore who will fling the ball try to
Speaker 4: make an impossible, THROW jj Will tuckett at that point
Speaker 4: he ain't looking to, talk but like he, will well
Speaker 4: right if it's the best option and he steals. Yards so,
Speaker 4: yeah right, away you think about the play. Card you
Speaker 4: think about all the talent that they have, there The,
Speaker 4: vikings if they take a guard with their first, PICK
Speaker 4: i think they have a top three offensive line in THE.
Speaker 4: Nfl so it's you have all. That so if you
Speaker 4: have the two good running, backs such a good, SITUATION
Speaker 4: i think you can be a top ten fantasy quarterback next.
Speaker 1: Year four thousand yards over, okay, great, well let's play over.
Speaker 1: It we'll play Card.
Speaker 3: Sharks so we're over four thousand, yards twenty eight touchdown, passes.
Speaker 4: Twenty, Eight i'll go let's see last year that would
Speaker 4: have been twenty, eight would have been how Many Aaron
Speaker 4: rodgers Had.
Speaker 3: With that, Perspective, okay all, right Then i'm gonna go.
Speaker 1: Five hundred rushing.
Speaker 4: Yards five hundred rushing.
Speaker 3: Yards he's gonna have to have some design play design
Speaker 3: runs in there to get to five.
Speaker 4: Hundred i'm Gonna i'll go under the five, hundred, okay, yeah.
Speaker 1: Six rushing, Touchdowns i'll say five five, okay all, right,
Speaker 1: okay so we're over over under, under, okay all.
Speaker 3: Right that would that would probably put him close To.
Speaker 3: Courty you know the numbers you're talking about that put
Speaker 3: him close TO qb. Ten that would put him. CLOSE
Speaker 3: i can't What i've been What i've been. Taught When
Speaker 3: i've been talking ABOUT jj, McCarthy and you do it
Speaker 3: more THAN i.
Speaker 4: DO i don't talk about anything, else, yeah.
Speaker 1: Almost never to. Me it feels like he.
Speaker 3: IS i can't remember a first year. Starter he's not a,
Speaker 3: rookie a first year starter to have as much surrounding
Speaker 3: talent AS jj McCarthy, Has and especially when you consider
Speaker 3: coaching staff as part of that equation between the offensive, line,
Speaker 3: receivers the running, game the coaching. STAFF i can't remember
Speaker 3: a spot where a quarterback has as promising AS jj
Speaker 3: is as a top ten drafted quarterback into a spot
Speaker 3: that has.
Speaker 1: More more support around.
Speaker 4: It you got to go back a, while you, know
Speaker 4: a year ago at this, time people were saying that
Speaker 4: About Caleb, williams even though.
Speaker 1: He had the terrible offensive.
Speaker 4: Line, yes you, know, okay running back, room but you,
Speaker 4: know obviously not even mostly not Even, yeah you, know
Speaker 4: it was because they had the good receiving. Corps BUT
Speaker 4: i would take The vikings receiving corps Over. Chicago's, yeah,
Speaker 4: right so, certain and then the tight end as. WELL
Speaker 4: i would take the running back, room take the offensive.
Speaker 4: LINE i, mean you would have to go back and
Speaker 4: obviously the play, caller uh by quite a. Bit you'd
Speaker 4: have to go back a. While, Yeah so it's he
Speaker 4: he's in such a good situation there and the game
Speaker 4: it's it's projectable to, fantasy you, know because you're getting
Speaker 4: the extra value from the. Legs that, AGAIN i don't
Speaker 4: think people are baked in right. Now, yeah that's gonna be.
Speaker 3: UH i think THAT'S i don't know If i'm gonna
Speaker 3: be able to CALL jj McCarthy put him into my sleeper,
Speaker 3: list BUT i THINK i think he counts he's gonna
Speaker 3: be a sleeper if he's gonna keep going off the
Speaker 3: board round, ten round eleven in.
Speaker 4: Drafts i've tried to wake everyone up the last year.
Speaker 4: Plus but, YEAH i MEAN i suppose he probably would
Speaker 4: still be considered a sleeper heading end of the. Year, yeah,
Speaker 4: YEAH i think so we're gonna have to change.
Speaker 2: That.
Speaker 1: Trecon, yeah we'll do our best here on the. Show,
Speaker 1: yeah thank, You.
Speaker 3: Thor we'll be talking again in two weeks as we
Speaker 3: look through the we'll go through the first round and hit.
Speaker 1: All away from. DRAFT i, KNOW i know so. Close
Speaker 1: how many running backs in the first. Round it's.
Speaker 4: Good it's either two or. Three BEFORE i was pretty.
Speaker 4: Confident to starting to hear a little bit, more maybe
Speaker 4: it'll be. Three, ah the two and a half number is.
Speaker 4: Perfect i'll still say. Two But I'm i'm starting to
Speaker 4: go a little bit more towards three the time closer
Speaker 4: we Get.
Speaker 1: Chiefs could muck up the works at thirty? One you
Speaker 1: think they?
Speaker 3: Could it's, Possible, yeah if they Love Caleb, johnson, RIGHT
Speaker 3: i mean there's you, know that's a team just you,
Speaker 3: know if you're looking for somebody at a team at
Speaker 3: the bottom of.
Speaker 1: The First This pacheco, thing the way it played out
Speaker 1: last year was weird.
Speaker 4: Man, yeah, yeah, yeah they. Could, yeah. Definitely he's a
Speaker 4: running back and maybe. Maneuver but, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1: ALTHOUGH i Got caleb going to The bears at, whatever thirty,
Speaker 1: NINE i think he goes, yeah, right have fired a. Guess,
Speaker 1: YEAH i.
Speaker 4: THINK i am going To dallas in, mine you, know
Speaker 4: Because schottenheimer put in the zone the whole.
Speaker 1: Deal oh, yeah that makes.
Speaker 4: Sense caleb got to get to his own, system but
Speaker 4: he gonna be, very very. Good would you rather have
Speaker 4: him Or henderson if you depend on the? Scheme, yeah
Speaker 4: for his own run Team caleb for. Sure, Yeah, YEAH
Speaker 4: i think so.
Speaker 3: Too and from a fantasy, Standpoint caleb's just The dude's
Speaker 3: gonna get a lot of.
Speaker 1: Touchdowns oh.
Speaker 4: Yeah it's so powerful in, church like for my, job
Speaker 4: like you have to ring people like in a, vacuum
Speaker 4: but like you, know if you're doing it for AN nfl,
Speaker 4: team you obviously have an offensive. System IF i ran
Speaker 4: a zone running, SYSTEM i would Have Caleb john TO
Speaker 4: rb two in this, class behind only. Genty but like you,
Speaker 4: know obviously he's not a fitting. Gap so it's, like you,
Speaker 4: know you have to sort of bake both those things
Speaker 4: In omar And hampton is scheme versatile where he could
Speaker 4: do either. One there's a lot of a lot of
Speaker 4: zone AT u N. C but he's also good in gap.
Speaker 4: Concept so it's, like you, know you just have to
Speaker 4: sort of ballpark that stuff when you're you're ranking him
Speaker 4: in a.
Speaker 3: Vacuum For omari And, hampton IF i were to IF
Speaker 3: i were to put any one player in the second
Speaker 3: half of the draft on any one team AND i
Speaker 3: had to get it, right my life's on the, line
Speaker 3: it would Be hampton to The.
Speaker 1: Broncos they're gonna take if he's, there don't you think? So?
Speaker 1: YEAH i? Do?
Speaker 4: YEAH i mean will he get to twenty is the?
Speaker 4: Question or will will Mister peyton start to get antsy
Speaker 4: if he you, know will will they move up, right
Speaker 4: because there there are a couple other teams sniffing, around
Speaker 4: and if genty goes super early where Whenever gent, goes
Speaker 4: you're On hampton watch, Right and so it's like how
Speaker 4: long will he linger out?
Speaker 3: There so if genty goes, FIVE i don't think he's
Speaker 3: Gonna i'm A i'm kind of off him on The
Speaker 3: raiders right. Now If gent goes, five would you could To?
Speaker 3: Jacksonville that's a pot that's the first possible landing, spot
Speaker 3: or a team hoppin, yeah or maybe or maybe a
Speaker 3: team goes, up but he's got to get by The
Speaker 3: saints or. Possibility, right you, know as soon as genty
Speaker 3: goes you're right that now running backs back on the
Speaker 3: clock In dallas at, twelve.
Speaker 4: Because i'm Saying dallas at twelve becomes a spot For. Hampton,
Speaker 4: Yeah AND i think that's why that's become. Popular it's, like,
Speaker 4: yeah If gent's off the board there for a, while
Speaker 4: Would dallas? Wait would you wait until the second, round you,
Speaker 4: know when when all the guys could get picked off
Speaker 4: by that, point or you just take care of it
Speaker 4: then now.
Speaker 1: We're just wrapping draft. Stuff, yeah not even talking.
Speaker 4: Quarterback, yeah, well, hey when are we going to get a?
Speaker 4: Touchdown Tommy? Mallott yeah, Right, cops.
Speaker 3: Your comps are so much fun because most people's comps
Speaker 3: are like the best possible outcome for this, player and
Speaker 3: you have comps Like JIM, sorgi.
Speaker 4: Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah well, yeah wait on, Yeah Jim
Speaker 4: sergey was The canadian Kid Taylor TAYLOR. Elgerzma, yeah a,
Speaker 4: Touchdown Tommy. Malot we gave Him John rice. Plumbing but,
Speaker 4: yeah The Montana state kids shout out to.
Speaker 1: Them four three.
Speaker 4: Nine Tommy malot ran in the pre draft. Process but
Speaker 4: it's always. FUN, dj you our. FRIEND i commed him
Speaker 4: To Jamie. Newman remember From Wake.
Speaker 1: FOREST i don't, Remember Jamie. NEWMAN i haven't Breaking i've
Speaker 1: been not been breaking, down.
Speaker 4: Uh With Jamie newman And Sam hartman were at started
Speaker 4: their careers together at Wake forest once upon a. TIME
Speaker 4: i Know Jamie newman played Over Sam hartman and.
Speaker 1: Wow.
Speaker 4: Yeah but Then Jamie newman, declared and the restless, history the.
Speaker 3: Fact that we're talking about anybody From Wake, Forest Harold
Speaker 3: fannin's you, know that's the.
Speaker 1: Rare it's the. Rare.
Speaker 4: Rake what's the well fan And Bowling Green?
Speaker 3: Forrest, yeah, shoot never, mind should just edit this, out
Speaker 3: But i'm.
Speaker 1: Not i'm probably not going to him lazy At perry Wake.
Speaker 1: Forest oh, yeah, yeah there you.
Speaker 3: Go all, Right so that that's WHAT i was gonna,
Speaker 3: ask because who was the last relevant Wake forest?
Speaker 1: Player? Yeah, yeah At perry is. Irrelevant, Yeah Max brosmer
Speaker 1: gets gets. Drafted he's got a real.
Speaker 4: Shot, yeah you, know usually we get somewhere twelve to fourteen.
Speaker 4: Drafted HE'S qb twelve on my. Board maybe it'll BE
Speaker 4: qb eleven on some other, ones thirteen somewhere in, there
Speaker 4: but he is right on that cut. Line but, yeah
Speaker 4: coin flip shot For max and maybe even a little
Speaker 4: bit better to get.
Speaker 3: Drafted, yeah you, know you get a you get an
Speaker 3: accurate passer guy that can process the. Field he just
Speaker 3: doesn't have an nfl arm to, me now that's a d.
Speaker 3: Arm but but you get a lot of the other
Speaker 3: intangibles that could make him somebody who won't lose a
Speaker 3: game for.
Speaker 4: You, yeah he's gonna hang around for a while because
Speaker 4: he can Make he makes the quick decisions and he
Speaker 4: makes good decisions with the. Ball he just is an
Speaker 4: athletic and he doesn't have a big. Arm so it's
Speaker 4: a lot of it's a lot of paper cut. Stuff
Speaker 4: but he it's it's a guy that wouldn't necessarily crazy
Speaker 4: Embarrass yeah when, yeah if he was thrown out there
Speaker 4: due to, injury it's just your offense would have to change.
Speaker 4: Obviously the spacing would constrict and on you real. Quick,
Speaker 4: yeah the field gets shorter With.
Speaker 1: Max that's.
Speaker 3: It, yeah for, sure you are the best they talking
Speaker 3: in two weeks after the first, round onto the.
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