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Speaker 1: Welcome to Fantasy Football Weekly, a production of iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 2: Time now for Fantasy Football Weekly from iHeartRadio, your weekly

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Speaker 2: source for the nation's best fantasy football advice, speculation, and

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Speaker 2: whatever stupid stuff they decided to drop into the show.

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Speaker 2: Now here's your host, Paul Chargion.

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Speaker 3: Welcome to Fantasy Football Weekly, the last of five episodes

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Speaker 3: with Thor Nystrom getting us ready for the draft.

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Speaker 4: A big conclusion to the trilogy. What's five?

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Speaker 1: It's not septology, I don't know. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we've broken down running backs and two shows. Then

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Speaker 3: I think we went receiver, tight end.

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Speaker 1: Now quarterback. Yeah, and then I've already I've already I'm

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Speaker 1: not positive next week, but then the.

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Speaker 3: Day after the draft, the Friday after the draft, you've

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Speaker 3: got you've.

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Speaker 1: After round one. Yep, we're going to hit that too,

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Speaker 1: So you deserve a break.

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Speaker 3: We haven't even nobody even knows who Scott Fish and

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Speaker 3: Matt Harrison are anymore.

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Speaker 1: Those guys haven't been on the show in so long. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and we're going to try to work in uh

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Speaker 3: one of a new guy named Kent Wee Rock who

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Speaker 3: has made one been on one other show maybe like

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Speaker 3: a year ago. We're gonna try to get Kent into

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Speaker 3: We're going into the rotation as well. I think you

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Speaker 3: and Kent have you and Kent may have cross paths.

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Speaker 1: At some point. Yeah. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: So here we are, we're only two weeks away from

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Speaker 3: the Drafttheless, tell let's we're going to do quarterbacks.

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Speaker 1: Let's start here.

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Speaker 3: Where would this year's most promising quarterbacks, so that would

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Speaker 3: be cam Ord Shadar Sanders. Where would they have ranked

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Speaker 3: in last year's quarterback Leyden draft if they'd been coming out?

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Speaker 1: Now? Where would they go? Between Caleb Williams and bow Nix?

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Speaker 3: We had six quarterbacks taken last year, right, so where

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Speaker 3: would these guys have slotted into last year's grading?

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Speaker 1: For me?

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Speaker 4: They would have been five and six? Okay, so you know.

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Speaker 1: After McCarthy, before Nicks. What for me it was after May?

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Speaker 1: But ok yeah, like my rank, it was.

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Speaker 4: Right of course Coja and then Drake May. But I

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Speaker 4: would you know, I would have had the top two

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Speaker 4: guys of this class, the next two guys and then

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Speaker 4: Pennix nixt after that.

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Speaker 1: Okay, all right, all right, and that's the just every

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Speaker 1: year is different, right, yeah?

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Speaker 3: They you know these are you know, cam Ward is

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Speaker 3: coming out in a weaker class, he's gonna go first overall.

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Speaker 1: Probably. Yeah, yeah, that's right. And you know, a different

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Speaker 1: year he might have gone tenth.

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Speaker 4: Jonathan Brooks or Trey Benson in this running back.

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Speaker 1: Class would have after thoughts.

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Speaker 4: But yeah, they got pulled up because they were in

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Speaker 4: a bad running back class. I put out a tweet

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Speaker 4: today about how there are two true freshmen wide receivers

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Speaker 4: are they're leaving their true freshman season, but if they

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Speaker 4: were in this draft class, each of them would be

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Speaker 4: wide receiver one if you don't count Travis Hunter as

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Speaker 4: a wide receiver. Jeremiah Smith and Ryan Williams do.

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Speaker 1: They both play for Ohio State.

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Speaker 4: Jeremi Smith plays for the.

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Speaker 1: Other run place for Alabama.

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Speaker 4: Probably weren't going to predict that, but but yeah, you know,

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Speaker 4: and it's cyclical. This wide receiver class is way down.

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Speaker 1: Right.

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Speaker 4: In a couple of years we are going to have

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Speaker 4: an epic wide receiver class. So it's just you know,

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Speaker 4: all these position groups up down, updown.

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Speaker 1: Give me a letter grade for the quarterback class. I'll

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Speaker 1: go D, Yeah, probably D or D plus. Okay, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's not like the Malik willis uh not the pick

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Speaker 1: at year. It's not that bad. That was an F class. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: this is a D class. This is a D class.

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Speaker 1: Let's see what we can learn about these players. First.

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Speaker 1: I want to start here.

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Speaker 3: Here's the teams I think that could take a quarterback

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Speaker 3: day one or day two. Ye, so first two rounds,

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Speaker 3: Jets they currently have justin fields.

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Speaker 1: That's patchwork.

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Speaker 3: Now they're paying fields two years forty million, so it's

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Speaker 3: not nothing, but that's a patchwork solution.

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Speaker 1: Yep. Browns.

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Speaker 3: Obviously, people do not believe the Browns at pick two

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Speaker 4: Not at two, but uh, but it appears that they'll

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Speaker 4: You know, after signing Flacco and then you have pick it,

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Speaker 4: you have that opening for one guy, right like and

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Speaker 4: I mean my question is is that guy is it

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Speaker 4: Kirk Cousins or has that been earmark for the rookie?

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Speaker 4: But yeah, well we'll find out. And you know Cleveland

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Speaker 4: picks it too.

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Speaker 4: You talked a lot about that. I think Travis Hunter

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Speaker 4: an absolute war chest of draft equity. They have the

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Speaker 4: and then in the third round they have two picks.

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Speaker 4: They have sixty seven, they have ninety four. They have

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Speaker 4: the amo to move up potentially, and if you start

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Speaker 4: to see Shader Sanders falling, that's their move watch out.

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Speaker 3: I speculated about exactly that scenario today on KFA N.

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Speaker 3: Could the Browns go thirty three to twenty to jump

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Speaker 3: the Steelers to get Shadir Sanders.

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Speaker 4: So in my last mock draft, I went two rounds.

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Speaker 4: I had them going to fifteen trading with Atlanta, and

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Speaker 4: But the thing that would jive it is that thirty

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Speaker 4: it for the fifteen pick. So I think anything. Fifteen

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Speaker 3: So you think Sanders and I'm seeing this increasingly. Not

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Speaker 3: that long ago, Sanders was believed to be going in

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Speaker 3: I'm seeing lately is a move of Shadur homing farther

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Speaker 1: Do you see it that way?

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Speaker 4: I'll believe it when I see it, certainly, that's, you know,

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Speaker 4: the way that the wind appears to be blowing right now.

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Speaker 4: But there are a lot of false narratives out there

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Speaker 1: A couple of the teams I can take quarterbacks.

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Speaker 3: Steelers obviously still don't have the resolution on the Art

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Speaker 3: of it, they need it, they need it. Titans obviously

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Speaker 3: at one they'll go quarterback. Giants at three they've got

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Speaker 3: between the two of them, there have six teams and

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Speaker 3: three years, so that's not a solution for the Giants.

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Speaker 3: Saints at nine might start doing some Derek car succession planning.

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Speaker 3: I believe Seattle at eighteen. I know they just committed

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Speaker 3: a ton of money to Sam Darnold, but kind of

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Speaker 3: like the Vikings was, Sam, they might want it, you know,

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Speaker 3: they may. I think that Seattle might want to have

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Speaker 3: a backup plan ready, much like the Vikings did.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and there's oh, it's in that contract. You know

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Speaker 4: where it's not. You know the outlay and and and

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yep, all right, So let's go through your your

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Speaker 3: You're ready to dig in. Let's do it now. You

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Speaker 3: have Shadure Sanders number one. I do this puts you

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Speaker 3: out of lockstep with the majority. And I love that

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Speaker 3: about you that you're willing to do that. Yeah, I

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Speaker 3: love it. Just go with your go with your gut. Okay,

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Speaker 3: well it's not just gut. You're gonna throw a bunch

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Speaker 3: of facts at us. Your comp on Shudar Sanders Drew Breese.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm just a huge fan of Shadeer Sanders' game.

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Speaker 4: The the placement and the accuracy are both elite and

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Speaker 4: that's the thing that that will remind you of Drew Brees.

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Speaker 4: I also like his ability to make people miss in

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Speaker 4: the pocket. You know, people say, oh, Shuldeer Sanders isn't athletic,

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Speaker 4: which is absurd. He you know, he's the son of

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Speaker 4: one of the most athletic players in NFL history. We've

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Speaker 4: also seen him outside of the pocket a few instances.

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Speaker 4: When he does run. He's been clocked over ninety miles

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Speaker 4: the again, some of these narratives around Shadeer Sanders are

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Speaker 4: just absolutely absurd. But he had the athleticism to make

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Speaker 4: people miss in the pocket. That's what he's looking to

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Speaker 4: do to extend. He notes that the guys crashing in

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Speaker 4: his plan to facilitate that and extend the plays. He

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Speaker 4: played behind terrible offensive lines last two years at Colorado

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Speaker 4: knew what was coming every single time. I'm curious to

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Speaker 4: see how much Shadeer's game plays up at the next

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Speaker 4: level when he has a competent offensive line. Playing in

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Speaker 4: like that. But speaking to the accuracy eighty one point

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Speaker 4: eight adjusted accuracy percentage last year, that was five points high.

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Speaker 4: Really I think cam Ward, Yeah, it was number two

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Speaker 4: amongst all BS quarterbacks. He also takes care of the ball,

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Speaker 4: Shahdeer Sanders does not put it up for grabs last

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Speaker 4: year number three and turnover worthy play rate cam Ward's

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Speaker 4: was almost three times higher.

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Speaker 1: Right, So with Shadeer.

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Speaker 4: Sanders, it's a very even ride. You know, you get

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Speaker 4: the steady eddy thing. You get a guy again accuracy placement,

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Speaker 4: it's a chain mover who takes care of the ball.

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Speaker 4: He's not going to turn it over for you, so

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Speaker 4: you're taking a profit every single play. Cam Orders will

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Speaker 4: talk about in a second is a bit more of

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Speaker 4: a roller coaster ride his game. But yeah, I'm a

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Speaker 4: huge fan of Shadeer Sanders' game.

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Speaker 1: Okay, few mistakes for for a guy who was under

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Speaker 1: pressure a lot ninety seventh percentile in avoiding negative throws, yep.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you know he gets a lot of crap for

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Speaker 4: the sack numbers. But again, when you look at the

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Speaker 4: like that, I think that there are contextual things that

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Speaker 4: you can point to that are impressive as far as

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Speaker 4: the decision making under duress.

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Speaker 1: So from a fantasy standpoint, for Shagar Sanders.

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Speaker 3: Feels like a high floor guy, not necessarily a high

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Speaker 3: ceiling fantasy producer.

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Speaker 1: Now, Drew Brees was both. I mean, if he could

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Speaker 1: do both. Drew was never mobile, but drew through one

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Speaker 1: had amazing seasons with tons of yards and touchdowns. Do

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Speaker 1: you view it that way?

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Speaker 3: As Shuldear Sanders as a high floor prospect more than

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he did, right, so today when Tomlinson breeze that year, yeah,

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Speaker 4: I think that's where some of this stuffs coming from.

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Speaker 3: Maybe there was another quarterback there. I don't know, a

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Speaker 3: Most people think he's gonna go first overall, and you

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Speaker 4: Definitely. Yeah, he's he's got a great arm. He's got

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Speaker 4: a fascinating backstor. He was a wing tea quarterback in

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Speaker 4: a lot of cool things with the armslot. He's one

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Speaker 4: you get the explosive plays. Absolutely, his explosive to play

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Speaker 4: But but you're gonna have to live with those turnovers

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Speaker 3: So now all that said, I noted this from your

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Speaker 4: Yeah, but how much higher can you get the explosive

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Speaker 3: Yeah, all right, so that's number one and two. Do

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Speaker 1: Yeah? I do.

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Speaker 3: All right, where's your landing spot for who I assume

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Speaker 1: To the draft, so there is Isn't that interesting?

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Speaker 4: There is a mystery team in on Millroy?

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Speaker 1: Right, I said that doesn't happen by accident.

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Speaker 4: It is all quiet on the Western front.

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Speaker 1: Nobody swelt we're so close to the draft.

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Speaker 4: Somebody knows something, but nobody talking.

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Speaker 3: And there's only like thirteen kids to the draft, right,

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Speaker 1: There is a mystery?

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Speaker 4: Darn confidence there's a mystery. Now now you know a

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Speaker 4: that makes sense on on a lot of different you know, uh,

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Speaker 3: I'll give you a mystery team that could that could

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Speaker 3: let's hear it rams, Okay, right, succession planning, Yeah, for

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Speaker 4: Yeah, they I would think they would be more of

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Speaker 1: I don't think. Yeah, it doesn't feel that fit there.

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Speaker 3: But that's a team that would make sense and pretty

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so I don't know.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, all right, let's go to Jackson Dart. He's your

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Speaker 1: Your comp here is Gardner Minshew.

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Speaker 3: All right, Which I say that like you're attacking Jackson Dart,

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Speaker 4: No, I just have, you know, some questions about the

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Speaker 4: But he's a really difficult evaluation because the physical ability,

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Speaker 4: But he would miss whether it's open guys or I

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Speaker 4: Post snap that's just stuff we haven't seen from Jackson

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Speaker 1: So because of that black box, I have to.

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Speaker 3: coached out of you, and maybe Dart's got the talent

439
00:20:16,240 --> 00:20:22,040
Speaker 3: for that. You noted his Jackson darts best area is

440
00:20:22,119 --> 00:20:24,280
Speaker 3: the middle of the field, the intermediate level pass the.

441
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Speaker 1: Part of this stuff that I like, yeah a lot.

442
00:20:26,240 --> 00:20:30,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's the deeper throws that I think he struggles with, right, Yeah.

443
00:20:30,080 --> 00:20:31,840
Speaker 4: You know when when the first read is not there,

444
00:20:31,880 --> 00:20:34,920
Speaker 4: because a lot of times that he's getting he knows

445
00:20:34,960 --> 00:20:36,600
Speaker 4: it's going to be one on one coverage on the

446
00:20:36,720 --> 00:20:38,560
Speaker 4: dude going deal. A lot of times it was Trey Harris.

447
00:20:38,560 --> 00:20:41,159
Speaker 4: Trey Harris the only runs the straight routes. You know,

448
00:20:41,200 --> 00:20:43,560
Speaker 4: he's nothing side to side or whatever. But like when

449
00:20:43,600 --> 00:20:45,800
Speaker 4: he would get those dialed up for him, it was

450
00:20:45,840 --> 00:20:48,640
Speaker 4: always in one on one coverage. He doesn't do good,

451
00:20:48,760 --> 00:20:50,920
Speaker 4: especially when he's going to the other side of the field.

452
00:20:50,920 --> 00:20:54,600
Speaker 4: But yeah, he doesn't have a howitzer, but it's certainly

453
00:20:55,040 --> 00:20:57,920
Speaker 4: above average arm strength and where at most manifests, it's

454
00:20:58,280 --> 00:21:01,360
Speaker 4: getting the velocity on the tights iro to the receivers

455
00:21:01,359 --> 00:21:04,080
Speaker 4: in the intermediate range, which which is the thing that

456
00:21:04,119 --> 00:21:07,720
Speaker 4: most evokes the NFL type throws in his profile.

457
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Speaker 3: Let's go to your number four ranked quarterback, and that

458
00:21:10,240 --> 00:21:14,120
Speaker 3: is the aforementioned Jalen Milroe. Your comp here is Malik Willis.

459
00:21:14,680 --> 00:21:18,600
Speaker 3: So you're getting an elite rusher, yeah, and Jalen Milroe

460
00:21:18,680 --> 00:21:20,359
Speaker 3: and a very incomplete passer.

461
00:21:21,280 --> 00:21:22,119
Speaker 1: Yeah.

462
00:21:22,160 --> 00:21:24,760
Speaker 4: This is another tough evail, but obviously for different reasons.

463
00:21:24,800 --> 00:21:27,920
Speaker 4: Even my QB three Milroe was earlier this process. I

464
00:21:28,240 --> 00:21:31,040
Speaker 4: did toggle dart ahead of them. But they're close. But

465
00:21:31,119 --> 00:21:34,720
Speaker 4: the evails are they're they're just different. Mill Row, he's

466
00:21:34,760 --> 00:21:37,119
Speaker 4: he's got the small hands, you know he was.

467
00:21:37,160 --> 00:21:38,760
Speaker 1: It was eight eight and.

468
00:21:38,760 --> 00:21:42,000
Speaker 4: Three quarters eight and three quarters, yeah, which we have.

469
00:21:42,200 --> 00:21:44,760
Speaker 4: We don't have much precedent for quarterbacks with hand side

470
00:21:44,800 --> 00:21:44,960
Speaker 4: like that.

471
00:21:45,240 --> 00:21:45,400
Speaker 1: Come.

472
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Speaker 3: I think your article said, there's no starting quarterback in

473
00:21:48,680 --> 00:21:50,399
Speaker 3: the NFL that has a hands that small.

474
00:21:50,440 --> 00:21:52,080
Speaker 1: And the last one who tried was Kenny Picks.

475
00:21:52,080 --> 00:21:55,359
Speaker 4: Was Kenny work Yeah nine. The only one really you

476
00:21:55,359 --> 00:21:58,639
Speaker 4: can evote historically to is Michael Vick, who people forget

477
00:21:58,680 --> 00:22:01,200
Speaker 4: its eight and a half inches not remember that at all.

478
00:22:01,280 --> 00:22:02,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, so he had he had.

479
00:22:02,400 --> 00:22:05,040
Speaker 4: The small hands, but he still had that Howarzer downfield now,

480
00:22:05,280 --> 00:22:09,960
Speaker 4: Jaln Milroe, he is tremendous downfield that uh you know,

481
00:22:10,000 --> 00:22:12,760
Speaker 4: the passes he gets down there, he has all the

482
00:22:12,840 --> 00:22:15,120
Speaker 4: arm strength in the world. He also has really good

483
00:22:15,160 --> 00:22:17,919
Speaker 4: touchdown there. When he gets the one on one, looks

484
00:22:17,920 --> 00:22:20,479
Speaker 4: and dials it up, he usually gets the best of it.

485
00:22:20,880 --> 00:22:23,639
Speaker 4: That his statistics on those were insane. I'm trying to

486
00:22:23,640 --> 00:22:27,240
Speaker 4: find it in my in my sheet here. But the

487
00:22:27,400 --> 00:22:30,560
Speaker 4: problem is comprom to Happy Gilmour because it's you know,

488
00:22:30,600 --> 00:22:33,000
Speaker 4: it's he can hit the ball a country mile, but

489
00:22:33,040 --> 00:22:35,800
Speaker 4: he can't put It's the stuff in the intermediate, the

490
00:22:36,440 --> 00:22:39,240
Speaker 4: short area of the field within nineteen yards of the

491
00:22:39,280 --> 00:22:41,800
Speaker 4: line of scrimmage thirteen to thirteen TDI and T rate

492
00:22:41,840 --> 00:22:44,159
Speaker 4: the last couple of years. And this is why Kaylen

493
00:22:44,200 --> 00:22:48,040
Speaker 4: de Boer essentially shoved out Jaln Milroe. It's why Jaln

494
00:22:48,080 --> 00:22:49,800
Speaker 4: Milroe is in the draft now. I don't know if

495
00:22:49,800 --> 00:22:52,560
Speaker 4: he wanted to turn pro right now, but Alabama didn't

496
00:22:52,600 --> 00:22:55,120
Speaker 4: want him back right like he was not good enough

497
00:22:55,119 --> 00:22:57,440
Speaker 4: in the pocket. And Kaylen de Boor, by the way,

498
00:22:57,720 --> 00:23:01,320
Speaker 4: he has a history of turning guy into pocket passers

499
00:23:01,359 --> 00:23:03,440
Speaker 4: that are good at this, so when he started working

500
00:23:03,480 --> 00:23:07,240
Speaker 4: with Milroe, it's like, oh, this could be nice. Caitlin

501
00:23:07,320 --> 00:23:09,640
Speaker 4: de Boor, recall, is the guy that began with Michael

502
00:23:09,680 --> 00:23:13,160
Speaker 4: Pennox at Indiana when Michael Pennix was just the ball

503
00:23:13,240 --> 00:23:15,200
Speaker 4: of clay, and de bor got him a couple of

504
00:23:15,240 --> 00:23:17,240
Speaker 4: years there, got him a couple years of Washington, and

505
00:23:17,240 --> 00:23:20,119
Speaker 4: all of a sudden, Michael Pennix is a top ten quarterback.

506
00:23:20,480 --> 00:23:22,800
Speaker 4: So it was like, oh, that's gonna happen with Milroe.

507
00:23:22,840 --> 00:23:25,000
Speaker 4: He could not get Milroe to do that stuff, and

508
00:23:25,359 --> 00:23:28,679
Speaker 4: then it became a problem because de Boor tried to

509
00:23:29,119 --> 00:23:31,600
Speaker 4: pin him into the pocket and the way they got

510
00:23:31,920 --> 00:23:34,800
Speaker 4: Milroe back with his legs. They did way more designed

511
00:23:34,880 --> 00:23:37,440
Speaker 4: runs last year than they'd done the year before under

512
00:23:37,480 --> 00:23:40,720
Speaker 4: Tommy Reese. But in the passing concepts, when a passing

513
00:23:40,800 --> 00:23:44,400
Speaker 4: play was called de Boor wanted that ball out, and

514
00:23:44,400 --> 00:23:47,160
Speaker 4: that's you started to get some friction there and down

515
00:23:47,200 --> 00:23:49,440
Speaker 4: the stretch. I don't know what's going on in there

516
00:23:49,480 --> 00:23:53,199
Speaker 4: building Alabama, but after Alabama beat Georgia at the end

517
00:23:53,240 --> 00:23:55,280
Speaker 4: of September, Milroe looked like he was going to be

518
00:23:55,280 --> 00:23:57,879
Speaker 4: the first overall pick in this class. And then after

519
00:23:57,920 --> 00:24:00,639
Speaker 4: that the wheels totally came off, both for mill and

520
00:24:00,680 --> 00:24:03,320
Speaker 4: the Alabama offense. And I think it was that push

521
00:24:03,320 --> 00:24:06,119
Speaker 4: and pull of Milroe wanting to keep his game but

522
00:24:06,160 --> 00:24:08,960
Speaker 4: then de Boor wanting him to run the de Boer offense,

523
00:24:08,960 --> 00:24:11,560
Speaker 4: and it just was not a very good fit. Five

524
00:24:11,600 --> 00:24:14,120
Speaker 4: and four finish over the last nine games, Milroe six

525
00:24:14,200 --> 00:24:17,240
Speaker 4: to ten TD nin and T rate in those nine games.

526
00:24:17,640 --> 00:24:20,119
Speaker 4: But if you get Milroe in a different syst that

527
00:24:20,280 --> 00:24:22,639
Speaker 4: this goes. You know the Lamar Jackson thing, right, Like,

528
00:24:22,960 --> 00:24:25,359
Speaker 4: Milroe is not the exact same thing as Lamar Jackson.

529
00:24:25,400 --> 00:24:28,040
Speaker 4: And I will say Lamar Jackson ran the Earhart Perkins

530
00:24:28,040 --> 00:24:30,800
Speaker 4: system when he was at Louisville. That's the offensive system

531
00:24:30,800 --> 00:24:33,480
Speaker 4: that Bill Parcells ran for the Giants, his offensive system

532
00:24:33,480 --> 00:24:36,560
Speaker 4: Bill Belichick and Tom Brady they did with the Patriots.

533
00:24:36,600 --> 00:24:39,600
Speaker 4: So he ran a pro style system for Patrino at Louisville.

534
00:24:39,640 --> 00:24:44,399
Speaker 4: Lamar Jackson did. Only last year Milroe started. You know,

535
00:24:44,720 --> 00:24:46,040
Speaker 4: it was the Michael Pennox offense.

536
00:24:46,080 --> 00:24:46,320
Speaker 1: Whatever.

537
00:24:46,359 --> 00:24:48,760
Speaker 4: But in the whole point being going to the NFL,

538
00:24:48,800 --> 00:24:51,360
Speaker 4: they're gonna have to be some modifications in the offensive

539
00:24:51,400 --> 00:24:56,720
Speaker 4: system to facilitate success for Jaln Milroe, especially initially while

540
00:24:56,760 --> 00:24:59,000
Speaker 4: you're trying to teach him the short and intermediate stuff,

541
00:24:59,000 --> 00:25:01,560
Speaker 4: the anticipatory asses, the timing stuff.

542
00:25:02,440 --> 00:25:04,199
Speaker 1: All right, let's move to your your number five And

543
00:25:04,200 --> 00:25:05,840
Speaker 1: by the way, you know Milrall's gonna be tempting from

544
00:25:05,880 --> 00:25:08,920
Speaker 1: a fantasy standpoint because of the athleticism the running.

545
00:25:08,760 --> 00:25:11,160
Speaker 4: Runs in the four three, is it right? Two hundred

546
00:25:11,160 --> 00:25:14,080
Speaker 4: and twenty plus pounds. Tremendous athlete, Yeah, and a great,

547
00:25:14,160 --> 00:25:15,160
Speaker 4: great runner.

548
00:25:14,880 --> 00:25:15,520
Speaker 1: He's gotta be.

549
00:25:16,160 --> 00:25:19,000
Speaker 3: The passing has to get so much better that I

550
00:25:19,080 --> 00:25:21,440
Speaker 3: worry that he's going to be a career backup.

551
00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:25,400
Speaker 1: You'll like your comp Malik Willis, Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's

552
00:25:25,480 --> 00:25:26,760
Speaker 1: that's certainly the fear. Yep.

553
00:25:27,240 --> 00:25:29,080
Speaker 3: All right, let's go to your number five ranked quarterback

554
00:25:29,119 --> 00:25:32,440
Speaker 3: Kyle McCord formerly from Ohio State then Syrahcuse.

555
00:25:32,440 --> 00:25:35,240
Speaker 1: He got forced out by Will Howard. Your comp here

556
00:25:35,440 --> 00:25:37,000
Speaker 1: is Kirk Cousins.

557
00:25:37,240 --> 00:25:39,919
Speaker 4: Yeah, if there's if there's a sleeper in this class,

558
00:25:39,960 --> 00:25:42,480
Speaker 4: you know what, everybody's got the same consensus top four,

559
00:25:42,480 --> 00:25:44,840
Speaker 4: but if there's a sleeper in this class, it turns

560
00:25:44,840 --> 00:25:47,080
Speaker 4: into a starter. I don't think everyone else has Tyler

561
00:25:47,119 --> 00:25:47,679
Speaker 4: Shuck for this.

562
00:25:47,920 --> 00:25:50,720
Speaker 1: Yeah. For me, it's it's Kyle McCord. Kyle McCord.

563
00:25:50,760 --> 00:25:52,679
Speaker 4: I really like the way that he sees the field.

564
00:25:52,760 --> 00:25:56,399
Speaker 4: I like the way that he challenges defenses. He denotes

565
00:25:56,480 --> 00:26:00,280
Speaker 4: the coverage scheme really really quickly, and he will attack that.

566
00:26:00,359 --> 00:26:02,720
Speaker 4: It's the thing Cousins, you know, coming out of Michigan

567
00:26:02,760 --> 00:26:04,840
Speaker 4: State obviously wasn't a good athlete, and he didn't have

568
00:26:04,880 --> 00:26:06,840
Speaker 4: the howitzer for an arm so so he sort of

569
00:26:06,840 --> 00:26:09,840
Speaker 4: gets nippicked and ends up going on day three and McCord,

570
00:26:09,840 --> 00:26:11,480
Speaker 4: it's it's sort of the same thing. You know, it's

571
00:26:11,760 --> 00:26:14,160
Speaker 4: a decent frame six three two twenty four, but yeah,

572
00:26:14,200 --> 00:26:17,480
Speaker 4: it's average ish, maybe slightly above average arm strength, but

573
00:26:17,480 --> 00:26:19,480
Speaker 4: but no better than that. And then again you're you're

574
00:26:19,480 --> 00:26:21,800
Speaker 4: confined to the pocket. But that gumptionhit he has within

575
00:26:21,880 --> 00:26:24,720
Speaker 4: the pocket pushing the ball down the field when he

576
00:26:24,760 --> 00:26:26,600
Speaker 4: has the best of it. I like all that sort

577
00:26:26,600 --> 00:26:29,199
Speaker 4: of stuff. Last year he's also very good under pressure.

578
00:26:29,200 --> 00:26:31,320
Speaker 4: He's gotten good under pressure. It's a part of his

579
00:26:31,359 --> 00:26:34,480
Speaker 4: game that's improved, improved, improved last year. Number four PFF

580
00:26:34,520 --> 00:26:37,320
Speaker 4: passing great under pressure. That it's it's one of those

581
00:26:37,359 --> 00:26:40,160
Speaker 4: metrics that I look at. I like the quarterbacks who

582
00:26:40,520 --> 00:26:43,480
Speaker 4: their their game doesn't creter when they're under duress. It

583
00:26:43,520 --> 00:26:46,600
Speaker 4: typically projects better to the NFL. And then McCord had won.

584
00:26:47,160 --> 00:26:49,920
Speaker 4: He had one game, so last year he it was weird.

585
00:26:49,960 --> 00:26:51,639
Speaker 4: You know, the year before he's at Ohio State, he

586
00:26:51,680 --> 00:26:53,879
Speaker 4: played with all these superstars, and then Ohio State was

587
00:26:53,920 --> 00:26:56,560
Speaker 4: like hit the road, kid, we're gonna bring in Will Howard.

588
00:26:56,800 --> 00:26:58,760
Speaker 4: And then McCord goes a Syracuse. He's not playing with

589
00:26:58,800 --> 00:27:01,439
Speaker 4: nearly as much talent, but his game jumped up. It

590
00:27:01,520 --> 00:27:03,919
Speaker 4: was sort of like he was unshackled from having to

591
00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:07,919
Speaker 4: run the Ohio State system. You know, it's sort of contradictory,

592
00:27:07,920 --> 00:27:09,800
Speaker 4: but that ended up being the case and he could

593
00:27:09,800 --> 00:27:12,560
Speaker 4: sort of become his own man. He was tremendous in

594
00:27:12,680 --> 00:27:16,040
Speaker 4: twelve games last year. Horrific in one. Yeah, the Pittsburg

595
00:27:16,119 --> 00:27:18,560
Speaker 4: Hide the women, yes, exactly, hide the women and children

596
00:27:18,560 --> 00:27:20,880
Speaker 4: in that one. He threw five interceptions in that including

597
00:27:20,920 --> 00:27:23,840
Speaker 4: three first half pick sixes, but thirty four to seven

598
00:27:23,880 --> 00:27:26,640
Speaker 4: TD nine t rate in the other twelve games, again

599
00:27:26,720 --> 00:27:30,360
Speaker 4: at Syracuse. So I like his game and I think

600
00:27:30,359 --> 00:27:32,560
Speaker 4: that there's more potential there maybe than he's getting credit for.

601
00:27:32,920 --> 00:27:35,480
Speaker 3: Calm m accord, your your story. At Fantasy Life notes,

602
00:27:35,480 --> 00:27:39,680
Speaker 3: he finished number three among quarterbacks in PFF's wins above

603
00:27:39,880 --> 00:27:41,040
Speaker 3: Average metric.

604
00:27:41,160 --> 00:27:44,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, and he led FBS and big time throws. Yeah.

605
00:27:44,520 --> 00:27:46,919
Speaker 4: Yeah. It's because of the gumption thing, right like, and

606
00:27:46,960 --> 00:27:50,320
Speaker 4: he just notices the coverage so quickly. And that's the

607
00:27:50,359 --> 00:27:52,560
Speaker 4: thing that I really appreciate about his game. And he

608
00:27:52,680 --> 00:27:55,680
Speaker 4: is not afraid, not afraid to push the ball down

609
00:27:55,640 --> 00:27:58,760
Speaker 4: the field, especially down the seams. He really was hurting

610
00:27:58,800 --> 00:28:02,800
Speaker 4: people with those they had Gadson with Syracuse State. You know,

611
00:28:02,800 --> 00:28:05,560
Speaker 4: they would do cool stuff with slots on both sides,

612
00:28:05,960 --> 00:28:07,880
Speaker 4: and when he got the look he wanted down the seam,

613
00:28:07,920 --> 00:28:10,040
Speaker 4: he's letting that thing rip and he can put it

614
00:28:10,080 --> 00:28:11,760
Speaker 4: on the hands there and lead the guy up the field.

615
00:28:12,119 --> 00:28:15,120
Speaker 3: All Right, I've got one more quarterback that I want

616
00:28:15,160 --> 00:28:16,960
Speaker 3: to do the full breakdown on, and then i'd like

617
00:28:17,000 --> 00:28:19,160
Speaker 3: you to give me one fantasy relevant sleeper.

618
00:28:19,920 --> 00:28:21,840
Speaker 1: That's Will Howard, who he just mentioned.

619
00:28:21,520 --> 00:28:25,560
Speaker 3: So he assumed the starting role for Ohio State. Your

620
00:28:25,600 --> 00:28:31,000
Speaker 3: comp here's Mason Rudolph. And I think you know, for

621
00:28:31,040 --> 00:28:33,960
Speaker 3: Will Howard, he gets dinged just because of the amazing

622
00:28:34,040 --> 00:28:35,679
Speaker 3: talent around him to some degree.

623
00:28:35,680 --> 00:28:37,440
Speaker 1: And how much of that do you think is fair?

624
00:28:39,080 --> 00:28:45,480
Speaker 1: It's fair Will Howard. There are certain things about his evaluation.

625
00:28:45,560 --> 00:28:47,360
Speaker 1: I like, right, like, he's huge.

626
00:28:47,200 --> 00:28:50,400
Speaker 4: You know, six' four and a quarter to thirty, six

627
00:28:50,440 --> 00:28:52,520
Speaker 4: and he's got THE a to eight raz moves around.

628
00:28:52,600 --> 00:28:54,360
Speaker 4: Well and earlier in his career At Kansas state we

629
00:28:54,400 --> 00:28:56,000
Speaker 4: got to see him running around a little bit more

630
00:28:56,040 --> 00:28:59,480
Speaker 4: because that offensive. System he also has a decent arm you,

631
00:28:59,520 --> 00:29:02,240
Speaker 4: know as actually in The College Football playoff you start

632
00:29:02,280 --> 00:29:04,720
Speaker 4: to see him get more effective with, that pushing the

633
00:29:04,720 --> 00:29:08,720
Speaker 4: ball down the field To Jeremiah smith and the receivers

634
00:29:08,720 --> 00:29:12,040
Speaker 4: that they had. THERE i my issue with his evaluation

635
00:29:12,280 --> 00:29:14,960
Speaker 4: is it's a guy who's older at twenty four to twenty.

636
00:29:14,960 --> 00:29:16,960
Speaker 4: Five With Will, howard he was in college for a,

637
00:29:16,960 --> 00:29:21,560
Speaker 4: while whose mechanics are still. Messy And i'll give him

638
00:29:21,600 --> 00:29:24,800
Speaker 4: credit and see he has improved those AND i saw

639
00:29:25,040 --> 00:29:29,959
Speaker 4: improvement even last, season but it's still not fine tuned.

640
00:29:30,200 --> 00:29:33,480
Speaker 4: Enough and because of that you see errancy when he

641
00:29:33,560 --> 00:29:35,880
Speaker 4: starts to lose those, mechanics or when his upper body

642
00:29:35,920 --> 00:29:38,080
Speaker 4: is not married to his lower, body and and and

643
00:29:38,200 --> 00:29:42,800
Speaker 4: those sorts of, things it plays down the throwing ability.

644
00:29:42,840 --> 00:29:44,880
Speaker 4: There so that's that's my issue with. Him and if

645
00:29:44,880 --> 00:29:47,960
Speaker 4: he hasn't gotten there, yet it's like he get there.

646
00:29:48,040 --> 00:29:52,120
Speaker 3: Exactly, Yeah and given the opportunities that he's, Had Will

647
00:29:52,200 --> 00:29:55,080
Speaker 3: howard has one thing that makes me really interested in

648
00:29:55,120 --> 00:29:58,360
Speaker 3: him from a fantasy. Standpoint he would be a tush push.

649
00:29:58,520 --> 00:30:01,560
Speaker 3: Monster he would if he can find his way into

650
00:30:01,840 --> 00:30:05,040
Speaker 3: a starting job as a just a good enough, passer

651
00:30:05,760 --> 00:30:08,200
Speaker 3: he could rack up double digit touchdowns on toosh pushes

652
00:30:08,200 --> 00:30:10,080
Speaker 3: in the right, system bring them.

653
00:30:10,080 --> 00:30:13,160
Speaker 4: In, yeah maybe he's a designated douche. Pusher, Yeah and,

654
00:30:13,560 --> 00:30:15,000
Speaker 4: like you, KNOW i think you'll have a career as a.

655
00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:15,400
Speaker 1: Backup you.

656
00:30:15,440 --> 00:30:17,640
Speaker 4: Know, again it reminds me Of Mason. Rudolph Mason rudolph

657
00:30:17,640 --> 00:30:19,360
Speaker 4: when he had the look that he wanted and stuff

658
00:30:19,400 --> 00:30:21,240
Speaker 4: like that At Oklahoma. State he could push the ball

659
00:30:21,280 --> 00:30:23,160
Speaker 4: down the. Field he was, big he was, athletic but,

660
00:30:23,640 --> 00:30:27,600
Speaker 4: yeah reading the field sometimes under duress and then the

661
00:30:27,920 --> 00:30:31,600
Speaker 4: mechanical thing tweaks with. That but, yeah you get a

662
00:30:31,800 --> 00:30:34,600
Speaker 4: potential backup guy, development even IF i don't think he

663
00:30:34,640 --> 00:30:38,640
Speaker 4: has a starter, upside you get some utility there potentially

664
00:30:38,680 --> 00:30:40,800
Speaker 4: With beldozer type at the goal.

665
00:30:40,840 --> 00:30:44,320
Speaker 3: Line all, Right so he's being Connected Will howard because

666
00:30:44,320 --> 00:30:46,720
Speaker 3: his offensive coordinator Was Chip kelly last year and he's

667
00:30:46,760 --> 00:30:49,080
Speaker 3: now with The, raiders and The raiders Have Geno smith

668
00:30:49,080 --> 00:30:50,840
Speaker 3: and they Extended Gino, Smith SO i, mean you, know

669
00:30:50,920 --> 00:30:51,760
Speaker 3: for the next couple.

670
00:30:51,600 --> 00:30:52,720
Speaker 1: Of years, anyway they're set.

671
00:30:52,760 --> 00:30:56,800
Speaker 3: There But i'm Seeing howard mock To Las vegas at

672
00:30:56,840 --> 00:30:59,200
Speaker 3: like fourth round pick hundred and. Eight do you think

673
00:30:59,280 --> 00:31:01,680
Speaker 3: That's is there anything there we just looking, for you,

674
00:31:01,720 --> 00:31:02,760
Speaker 3: know any CONNECTION.

675
00:31:02,640 --> 00:31:03,080
Speaker 1: I could see.

676
00:31:03,120 --> 00:31:05,520
Speaker 4: That, YEAH i mean he's gonna. Go, yeah he's either

677
00:31:05,520 --> 00:31:07,640
Speaker 4: going to go fourth or fifth. ROUND i think, so,

678
00:31:07,760 --> 00:31:11,080
Speaker 4: yeah one of those. Spots and it wouldn't make sense

679
00:31:11,080 --> 00:31:13,000
Speaker 4: With Las vegas for, sure with what the scenario.

680
00:31:13,120 --> 00:31:16,160
Speaker 1: Is is there anybody else you've broken down like twenty,

681
00:31:16,240 --> 00:31:18,400
Speaker 1: quarterbacks we've only hit. Six is there.

682
00:31:18,320 --> 00:31:21,760
Speaker 3: Anybody else you think has got the potential for fantasy

683
00:31:22,080 --> 00:31:24,840
Speaker 3: relevance not just like this? Guy could you know be

684
00:31:24,880 --> 00:31:28,160
Speaker 3: AN nfl, backup but like somebody THAT i could throw

685
00:31:28,480 --> 00:31:33,640
Speaker 3: my late third round dynasty pick at and you, know

686
00:31:33,680 --> 00:31:35,720
Speaker 3: there's a ten percent chance he pays off as a

687
00:31:35,720 --> 00:31:36,280
Speaker 3: starter at some.

688
00:31:36,320 --> 00:31:38,360
Speaker 4: Point on the other guy we hadn't discussed you could

689
00:31:38,360 --> 00:31:40,600
Speaker 4: toss out for that would Be Tyler. Shuck And Tyler

690
00:31:40,640 --> 00:31:44,280
Speaker 4: shuck he's even, bigger and he's, well he's, taller and

691
00:31:44,320 --> 00:31:45,760
Speaker 4: he's a better athlete Than Will.

692
00:31:45,760 --> 00:31:47,160
Speaker 1: Howard he has the physical.

693
00:31:47,200 --> 00:31:49,800
Speaker 4: Package and again there's people in the draft community that

694
00:31:49,840 --> 00:31:52,240
Speaker 4: absolutely Love Tyler. Shuck i'm not going to be the

695
00:31:52,240 --> 00:31:54,360
Speaker 4: one banging the table for him because they focus on

696
00:31:54,480 --> 00:31:57,120
Speaker 4: last year and they focus on his recruiting pedigree and

697
00:31:57,120 --> 00:32:00,760
Speaker 4: then of course the the athletic, profile WHEREAS i also

698
00:32:00,840 --> 00:32:04,440
Speaker 4: considered the previous was it five seasons where he had

699
00:32:04,440 --> 00:32:08,080
Speaker 4: the multiple you know At oregon his first year red,

700
00:32:08,080 --> 00:32:10,800
Speaker 4: shirt but then when he took over For, herbert they

701
00:32:10,880 --> 00:32:13,000
Speaker 4: benched him right away because he wasn't seeing the field,

702
00:32:13,040 --> 00:32:15,440
Speaker 4: well he wasn't good under. Pressure then he went To

703
00:32:15,520 --> 00:32:18,880
Speaker 4: Texas tech and he had three straight season ending injuries

704
00:32:19,160 --> 00:32:22,520
Speaker 4: or injuries the rec, seasons so you have durability concerns,

705
00:32:22,560 --> 00:32:24,720
Speaker 4: there and then it wasn't a guy that broke out

706
00:32:24,800 --> 00:32:29,200
Speaker 4: until whatever seventh college she's so it's, like, YEAH i,

707
00:32:29,200 --> 00:32:31,200
Speaker 4: MEAN i know he has some arm, talent AND i

708
00:32:31,240 --> 00:32:33,720
Speaker 4: know he was sawid last, year and he's obviously has

709
00:32:33,720 --> 00:32:35,280
Speaker 4: the prototypical frame and he's.

710
00:32:35,360 --> 00:32:38,520
Speaker 1: ATHLETIC i just like him as a.

711
00:32:38,560 --> 00:32:41,400
Speaker 4: Backup is the thing that inoculates him against one of

712
00:32:41,440 --> 00:32:44,480
Speaker 4: the black marks on his. Evaluation it's the durability. Thing

713
00:32:44,880 --> 00:32:47,840
Speaker 4: and then also at that elevated, age not having the

714
00:32:47,840 --> 00:32:50,800
Speaker 4: breakout until the very. End and by the, way he

715
00:32:50,880 --> 00:32:53,920
Speaker 4: was playing For Jeff, brohm who is a super underrated

716
00:32:54,080 --> 00:32:57,880
Speaker 4: quarterback whisperer who sent several quarterbacks to THE nfl From.

717
00:32:57,920 --> 00:33:00,480
Speaker 4: PERDUE i, mean none of them were, superstar but every

718
00:33:00,520 --> 00:33:02,880
Speaker 4: single quarterback he had he was sent into THE. Nfl

719
00:33:03,560 --> 00:33:05,960
Speaker 4: So i'm just a little bit lower on. Shuck but

720
00:33:06,360 --> 00:33:08,400
Speaker 4: if he got into the situation where he's a backup

721
00:33:08,400 --> 00:33:11,040
Speaker 4: and the starter gets, hurt he can move around a little,

722
00:33:11,040 --> 00:33:13,440
Speaker 4: bit so maybe he would score a couple of. Touchdowns

723
00:33:13,880 --> 00:33:16,240
Speaker 4: another guy in THAT ilk i'll toss out Is Riley.

724
00:33:16,320 --> 00:33:19,440
Speaker 4: Leonard I've Riley leonard eleven BECAUSE i don't like him

725
00:33:19,480 --> 00:33:21,440
Speaker 4: as a. Thrower he can't throw down the. FIELD i

726
00:33:21,480 --> 00:33:24,000
Speaker 4: comp him to Righty Tim tebow because it's you, know

727
00:33:24,040 --> 00:33:26,040
Speaker 4: some of that. Stuff but he is a very good,

728
00:33:26,120 --> 00:33:28,800
Speaker 4: runner and so if he ever found himself in this

729
00:33:28,880 --> 00:33:31,320
Speaker 4: situation where he was the backup and then the starter got,

730
00:33:31,400 --> 00:33:34,160
Speaker 4: hurt you would see a lot of running For Riley

731
00:33:34,200 --> 00:33:36,880
Speaker 4: leonard as you did in The National title, game where it's, Like,

732
00:33:37,000 --> 00:33:39,480
Speaker 4: riley you're our. Offense you're just gonna, run, run. Run

733
00:33:39,520 --> 00:33:42,320
Speaker 4: the first, drive it actually. Worked it didn't work after.

734
00:33:42,360 --> 00:33:45,440
Speaker 4: That but he's a tough. Kid he's, athletic BUT i

735
00:33:45,880 --> 00:33:47,960
Speaker 4: do think that there's limitation beyond. That but he could

736
00:33:48,040 --> 00:33:49,040
Speaker 4: score some touchdowns in THE.

737
00:33:49,120 --> 00:33:50,440
Speaker 1: Nfl this is all really good.

738
00:33:50,480 --> 00:33:53,840
Speaker 3: Stuff as we break down the rookie, CLASS i want

739
00:33:53,880 --> 00:33:55,600
Speaker 3: to talk to you about a different first year. Starter

740
00:33:57,840 --> 00:34:00,760
Speaker 3: i'm doing A i'm doing a, slow a slow best

741
00:34:00,800 --> 00:34:03,040
Speaker 3: ball draft right. Now i'm gonna be on the clock

742
00:34:03,080 --> 00:34:05,760
Speaker 3: in about eight. PICKS i Have Jayden daniels as my,

743
00:34:05,840 --> 00:34:08,000
Speaker 3: quarterback one who he took in like the second or third.

744
00:34:08,080 --> 00:34:13,040
Speaker 3: Round it's now ROUND i think ten or. ELEVEN jj

745
00:34:13,160 --> 00:34:18,439
Speaker 3: McCarthy is still. There tell Me, omar Say, omar, RIGHT

746
00:34:18,520 --> 00:34:20,880
Speaker 3: i mean you know this is a great. BACKUP i

747
00:34:20,960 --> 00:34:24,799
Speaker 3: want Let's i'd like you to give, me presuming he

748
00:34:25,280 --> 00:34:27,560
Speaker 3: plays the entire, season which is always how we look at.

749
00:34:27,560 --> 00:34:29,319
Speaker 3: It we're never, like, hey this guy's gonna miss half

750
00:34:29,320 --> 00:34:32,960
Speaker 3: a season with. INJURY jj, McCarthy give me his passing

751
00:34:33,400 --> 00:34:35,600
Speaker 3: yards and, touchdowns and THEN i would like you to

752
00:34:35,600 --> 00:34:37,799
Speaker 3: give me his rushing yards and, touchdowns WHICH i think

753
00:34:38,160 --> 00:34:40,279
Speaker 3: way too many people are missing the boat on his

754
00:34:40,320 --> 00:34:43,000
Speaker 3: mobility and how The vikings could use him that. Way

755
00:34:43,040 --> 00:34:46,839
Speaker 3: and just Because kevin O'Connell hasn't run with his, QUARTERBACKS

756
00:34:46,880 --> 00:34:49,600
Speaker 3: i think that's been reflective more of his quarterbacks than

757
00:34:50,080 --> 00:34:50,640
Speaker 3: then scheme.

758
00:34:50,680 --> 00:34:51,920
Speaker 1: Necessarily, well let's say.

759
00:34:51,920 --> 00:34:53,719
Speaker 4: THIS i think he's going to be a top ten

760
00:34:53,800 --> 00:34:57,480
Speaker 4: fantasy quarterback next, year and he's gonna score rushing, touchdowns

761
00:34:57,480 --> 00:34:59,359
Speaker 4: you KNOW i, mean and he's gonna get more rushing

762
00:34:59,440 --> 00:35:04,520
Speaker 4: yards than people. Think super athletic kid RAN. I i

763
00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:07,719
Speaker 4: had information that he ran in the high four fours At.

764
00:35:07,800 --> 00:35:10,919
Speaker 4: Michigan kevin O'Connell said that he ran in the low four.

765
00:35:11,000 --> 00:35:15,880
Speaker 4: FIVES i we won't know that That's kevin O'Connell TEASES JJ.

766
00:35:16,040 --> 00:35:17,400
Speaker 1: Bo, well because he.

767
00:35:17,400 --> 00:35:20,000
Speaker 4: Didn't run the forty during the precraft, process but what

768
00:35:20,040 --> 00:35:22,120
Speaker 4: he did do was he had the six fastest three

769
00:35:22,200 --> 00:35:25,440
Speaker 4: cone irregardless of position at the twenty twenty FOUR Nfl.

770
00:35:25,480 --> 00:35:29,200
Speaker 4: Combine super duper athletic. Kid he usually he uses that

771
00:35:29,280 --> 00:35:31,040
Speaker 4: you know in the pocket to buy time and then

772
00:35:31,239 --> 00:35:33,840
Speaker 4: he's tremendous throwing on the. Run but a part of

773
00:35:33,880 --> 00:35:36,120
Speaker 4: his game is getting to the perimeter of what you,

774
00:35:36,120 --> 00:35:38,680
Speaker 4: know when there is. Penetration, yeah when he, started you,

775
00:35:38,719 --> 00:35:41,000
Speaker 4: know starts to buy time offscra and he'll, yeah he'll

776
00:35:41,040 --> 00:35:44,000
Speaker 4: keep the mechanics with. Him but if a look isn't

777
00:35:44,040 --> 00:35:46,680
Speaker 4: there when he gets to the line of, scrimmage Unlike

778
00:35:46,719 --> 00:35:49,040
Speaker 4: Shadeer sanders who stops on a dime there and then

779
00:35:49,160 --> 00:35:51,800
Speaker 4: waits that you, know for someone to get, open or

780
00:35:51,920 --> 00:35:55,400
Speaker 4: Unlike Cam moore who will fling the ball try to

781
00:35:55,400 --> 00:35:57,959
Speaker 4: make an impossible, THROW jj Will tuckett at that point

782
00:35:58,000 --> 00:36:00,120
Speaker 4: he ain't looking to, talk but like he, will well

783
00:36:00,400 --> 00:36:03,360
Speaker 4: right if it's the best option and he steals. Yards so,

784
00:36:03,480 --> 00:36:06,440
Speaker 4: yeah right, away you think about the play. Card you

785
00:36:06,440 --> 00:36:09,120
Speaker 4: think about all the talent that they have, there The,

786
00:36:09,239 --> 00:36:12,319
Speaker 4: vikings if they take a guard with their first, PICK

787
00:36:13,120 --> 00:36:15,080
Speaker 4: i think they have a top three offensive line in THE.

788
00:36:15,200 --> 00:36:17,480
Speaker 4: Nfl so it's you have all. That so if you

789
00:36:17,520 --> 00:36:19,560
Speaker 4: have the two good running, backs such a good, SITUATION

790
00:36:19,680 --> 00:36:22,680
Speaker 4: i think you can be a top ten fantasy quarterback next.

791
00:36:22,760 --> 00:36:28,040
Speaker 1: Year four thousand yards over, okay, great, well let's play over.

792
00:36:28,080 --> 00:36:28,799
Speaker 1: It we'll play Card.

793
00:36:28,800 --> 00:36:36,200
Speaker 3: Sharks so we're over four thousand, yards twenty eight touchdown, passes.

794
00:36:36,960 --> 00:36:40,640
Speaker 4: Twenty, Eight i'll go let's see last year that would

795
00:36:40,640 --> 00:36:44,120
Speaker 4: have been twenty, eight would have been how Many Aaron

796
00:36:44,200 --> 00:36:44,799
Speaker 4: rodgers Had.

797
00:36:47,360 --> 00:36:51,720
Speaker 3: With that, Perspective, okay all, right Then i'm gonna go.

798
00:36:53,239 --> 00:36:54,040
Speaker 1: Five hundred rushing.

799
00:36:54,080 --> 00:36:57,400
Speaker 4: Yards five hundred rushing.

800
00:36:57,480 --> 00:36:59,880
Speaker 3: Yards he's gonna have to have some design play design

801
00:37:00,040 --> 00:37:00,920
Speaker 3: runs in there to get to five.

802
00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:09,080
Speaker 4: Hundred i'm Gonna i'll go under the five, hundred, okay, yeah.

803
00:37:08,680 --> 00:37:17,239
Speaker 1: Six rushing, Touchdowns i'll say five five, okay all, right,

804
00:37:17,360 --> 00:37:19,360
Speaker 1: okay so we're over over under, under, okay all.

805
00:37:19,440 --> 00:37:23,520
Speaker 3: Right that would that would probably put him close To.

806
00:37:23,640 --> 00:37:25,480
Speaker 3: Courty you know the numbers you're talking about that put

807
00:37:25,520 --> 00:37:28,040
Speaker 3: him close TO qb. Ten that would put him. CLOSE

808
00:37:29,040 --> 00:37:31,120
Speaker 3: i can't What i've been What i've been. Taught When

809
00:37:31,120 --> 00:37:32,800
Speaker 3: i've been talking ABOUT jj, McCarthy and you do it

810
00:37:32,840 --> 00:37:33,200
Speaker 3: more THAN i.

811
00:37:33,239 --> 00:37:35,960
Speaker 4: DO i don't talk about anything, else, yeah.

812
00:37:36,400 --> 00:37:42,120
Speaker 1: Almost never to. Me it feels like he.

813
00:37:42,400 --> 00:37:47,560
Speaker 3: IS i can't remember a first year. Starter he's not a,

814
00:37:47,640 --> 00:37:50,839
Speaker 3: rookie a first year starter to have as much surrounding

815
00:37:50,920 --> 00:37:56,040
Speaker 3: talent AS jj McCarthy, Has and especially when you consider

816
00:37:56,200 --> 00:37:59,680
Speaker 3: coaching staff as part of that equation between the offensive, line,

817
00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:04,600
Speaker 3: receivers the running, game the coaching. STAFF i can't remember

818
00:38:04,960 --> 00:38:09,600
Speaker 3: a spot where a quarterback has as promising AS jj

819
00:38:09,960 --> 00:38:13,000
Speaker 3: is as a top ten drafted quarterback into a spot

820
00:38:13,200 --> 00:38:13,960
Speaker 3: that has.

821
00:38:14,000 --> 00:38:16,480
Speaker 1: More more support around.

822
00:38:16,520 --> 00:38:18,520
Speaker 4: It you got to go back a, while you, know

823
00:38:18,600 --> 00:38:20,640
Speaker 4: a year ago at this, time people were saying that

824
00:38:20,680 --> 00:38:22,360
Speaker 4: About Caleb, williams even though.

825
00:38:22,200 --> 00:38:23,640
Speaker 1: He had the terrible offensive.

826
00:38:23,719 --> 00:38:26,440
Speaker 4: Line, yes you, know, okay running back, room but you,

827
00:38:26,440 --> 00:38:29,520
Speaker 4: know obviously not even mostly not Even, yeah you, know

828
00:38:29,760 --> 00:38:31,640
Speaker 4: it was because they had the good receiving. Corps BUT

829
00:38:32,080 --> 00:38:35,240
Speaker 4: i would take The vikings receiving corps Over. Chicago's, yeah,

830
00:38:35,320 --> 00:38:38,000
Speaker 4: right so, certain and then the tight end as. WELL

831
00:38:38,680 --> 00:38:40,600
Speaker 4: i would take the running back, room take the offensive.

832
00:38:40,600 --> 00:38:41,960
Speaker 4: LINE i, mean you would have to go back and

833
00:38:42,040 --> 00:38:44,959
Speaker 4: obviously the play, caller uh by quite a. Bit you'd

834
00:38:44,960 --> 00:38:47,120
Speaker 4: have to go back a. While, Yeah so it's he

835
00:38:47,360 --> 00:38:50,480
Speaker 4: he's in such a good situation there and the game

836
00:38:51,040 --> 00:38:56,200
Speaker 4: it's it's projectable to, fantasy you, know because you're getting

837
00:38:56,320 --> 00:38:59,200
Speaker 4: the extra value from the. Legs that, AGAIN i don't

838
00:38:59,200 --> 00:39:03,200
Speaker 4: think people are baked in right. Now, yeah that's gonna be.

839
00:39:03,280 --> 00:39:05,560
Speaker 3: UH i think THAT'S i don't know If i'm gonna

840
00:39:05,560 --> 00:39:08,560
Speaker 3: be able to CALL jj McCarthy put him into my sleeper,

841
00:39:08,600 --> 00:39:10,479
Speaker 3: list BUT i THINK i think he counts he's gonna

842
00:39:10,480 --> 00:39:11,920
Speaker 3: be a sleeper if he's gonna keep going off the

843
00:39:11,920 --> 00:39:13,920
Speaker 3: board round, ten round eleven in.

844
00:39:14,040 --> 00:39:16,680
Speaker 4: Drafts i've tried to wake everyone up the last year.

845
00:39:16,760 --> 00:39:20,560
Speaker 4: Plus but, YEAH i MEAN i suppose he probably would

846
00:39:20,560 --> 00:39:22,560
Speaker 4: still be considered a sleeper heading end of the. Year, yeah,

847
00:39:22,640 --> 00:39:23,960
Speaker 4: YEAH i think so we're gonna have to change.

848
00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:24,040
Speaker 2: That.

849
00:39:24,160 --> 00:39:26,399
Speaker 1: Trecon, yeah we'll do our best here on the. Show,

850
00:39:26,440 --> 00:39:27,200
Speaker 1: yeah thank, You.

851
00:39:27,200 --> 00:39:29,200
Speaker 3: Thor we'll be talking again in two weeks as we

852
00:39:29,440 --> 00:39:31,799
Speaker 3: look through the we'll go through the first round and hit.

853
00:39:31,800 --> 00:39:34,760
Speaker 1: All away from. DRAFT i, KNOW i know so. Close

854
00:39:34,840 --> 00:39:38,719
Speaker 1: how many running backs in the first. Round it's.

855
00:39:38,760 --> 00:39:42,360
Speaker 4: Good it's either two or. Three BEFORE i was pretty.

856
00:39:42,360 --> 00:39:45,919
Speaker 4: Confident to starting to hear a little bit, more maybe

857
00:39:45,920 --> 00:39:48,080
Speaker 4: it'll be. Three, ah the two and a half number is.

858
00:39:48,120 --> 00:39:52,000
Speaker 4: Perfect i'll still say. Two But I'm i'm starting to

859
00:39:52,160 --> 00:39:54,560
Speaker 4: go a little bit more towards three the time closer

860
00:39:54,600 --> 00:39:55,200
Speaker 4: we Get.

861
00:39:55,320 --> 00:39:57,600
Speaker 1: Chiefs could muck up the works at thirty? One you

862
00:39:57,640 --> 00:39:58,200
Speaker 1: think they?

863
00:39:58,239 --> 00:40:04,399
Speaker 3: Could it's, Possible, yeah if they Love Caleb, johnson, RIGHT

864
00:40:04,440 --> 00:40:06,200
Speaker 3: i mean there's you, know that's a team just you,

865
00:40:06,239 --> 00:40:07,920
Speaker 3: know if you're looking for somebody at a team at

866
00:40:07,920 --> 00:40:08,480
Speaker 3: the bottom of.

867
00:40:08,400 --> 00:40:11,279
Speaker 1: The First This pacheco, thing the way it played out

868
00:40:11,360 --> 00:40:12,080
Speaker 1: last year was weird.

869
00:40:12,120 --> 00:40:14,920
Speaker 4: Man, yeah, yeah, yeah they. Could, yeah. Definitely he's a

870
00:40:15,000 --> 00:40:17,759
Speaker 4: running back and maybe. Maneuver but, yeah, yeah.

871
00:40:17,520 --> 00:40:19,839
Speaker 1: ALTHOUGH i Got caleb going to The bears at, whatever thirty,

872
00:40:19,960 --> 00:40:22,799
Speaker 1: NINE i think he goes, yeah, right have fired a. Guess,

873
00:40:22,840 --> 00:40:23,640
Speaker 1: YEAH i.

874
00:40:23,560 --> 00:40:25,320
Speaker 4: THINK i am going To dallas in, mine you, know

875
00:40:25,320 --> 00:40:27,600
Speaker 4: Because schottenheimer put in the zone the whole.

876
00:40:27,640 --> 00:40:29,080
Speaker 1: Deal oh, yeah that makes.

877
00:40:29,120 --> 00:40:30,840
Speaker 4: Sense caleb got to get to his own, system but

878
00:40:30,880 --> 00:40:32,800
Speaker 4: he gonna be, very very. Good would you rather have

879
00:40:32,920 --> 00:40:36,560
Speaker 4: him Or henderson if you depend on the? Scheme, yeah

880
00:40:36,600 --> 00:40:39,239
Speaker 4: for his own run Team caleb for. Sure, Yeah, YEAH

881
00:40:39,239 --> 00:40:39,640
Speaker 4: i think so.

882
00:40:39,719 --> 00:40:44,120
Speaker 3: Too and from a fantasy, Standpoint caleb's just The dude's

883
00:40:44,160 --> 00:40:45,480
Speaker 3: gonna get a lot of.

884
00:40:45,560 --> 00:40:47,120
Speaker 1: Touchdowns oh.

885
00:40:47,239 --> 00:40:50,359
Speaker 4: Yeah it's so powerful in, church like for my, job

886
00:40:50,440 --> 00:40:52,360
Speaker 4: like you have to ring people like in a, vacuum

887
00:40:52,360 --> 00:40:54,440
Speaker 4: but like you, know if you're doing it for AN nfl,

888
00:40:54,520 --> 00:40:57,439
Speaker 4: team you obviously have an offensive. System IF i ran

889
00:40:57,520 --> 00:41:00,120
Speaker 4: a zone running, SYSTEM i would Have Caleb john TO

890
00:41:00,560 --> 00:41:04,600
Speaker 4: rb two in this, class behind only. Genty but like you,

891
00:41:04,600 --> 00:41:07,400
Speaker 4: know obviously he's not a fitting. Gap so it's, like you,

892
00:41:07,400 --> 00:41:09,640
Speaker 4: know you have to sort of bake both those things

893
00:41:09,640 --> 00:41:12,399
Speaker 4: In omar And hampton is scheme versatile where he could

894
00:41:12,400 --> 00:41:13,880
Speaker 4: do either. One there's a lot of a lot of

895
00:41:14,000 --> 00:41:16,279
Speaker 4: zone AT u N. C but he's also good in gap.

896
00:41:16,280 --> 00:41:18,400
Speaker 4: Concept so it's, like you, know you just have to

897
00:41:18,440 --> 00:41:21,480
Speaker 4: sort of ballpark that stuff when you're you're ranking him

898
00:41:21,480 --> 00:41:21,600
Speaker 4: in a.

899
00:41:21,680 --> 00:41:23,680
Speaker 3: Vacuum For omari And, hampton IF i were to IF

900
00:41:23,680 --> 00:41:26,440
Speaker 3: i were to put any one player in the second

901
00:41:26,480 --> 00:41:28,680
Speaker 3: half of the draft on any one team AND i

902
00:41:28,800 --> 00:41:31,160
Speaker 3: had to get it, right my life's on the, line

903
00:41:32,120 --> 00:41:33,239
Speaker 3: it would Be hampton to The.

904
00:41:33,239 --> 00:41:35,960
Speaker 1: Broncos they're gonna take if he's, there don't you think? So?

905
00:41:36,320 --> 00:41:37,000
Speaker 1: YEAH i? Do?

906
00:41:37,239 --> 00:41:39,560
Speaker 4: YEAH i mean will he get to twenty is the?

907
00:41:39,640 --> 00:41:43,600
Speaker 4: Question or will will Mister peyton start to get antsy

908
00:41:43,680 --> 00:41:45,680
Speaker 4: if he you, know will will they move up, right

909
00:41:45,719 --> 00:41:48,600
Speaker 4: because there there are a couple other teams sniffing, around

910
00:41:48,640 --> 00:41:52,480
Speaker 4: and if genty goes super early where Whenever gent, goes

911
00:41:52,680 --> 00:41:55,640
Speaker 4: you're On hampton watch, Right and so it's like how

912
00:41:55,680 --> 00:41:56,919
Speaker 4: long will he linger out?

913
00:41:56,960 --> 00:41:59,480
Speaker 3: There so if genty goes, FIVE i don't think he's

914
00:41:59,480 --> 00:42:01,000
Speaker 3: Gonna i'm A i'm kind of off him on The

915
00:42:01,080 --> 00:42:04,160
Speaker 3: raiders right. Now If gent goes, five would you could To?

916
00:42:04,280 --> 00:42:07,319
Speaker 3: Jacksonville that's a pot that's the first possible landing, spot

917
00:42:07,440 --> 00:42:10,360
Speaker 3: or a team hoppin, yeah or maybe or maybe a

918
00:42:10,400 --> 00:42:12,560
Speaker 3: team goes, up but he's got to get by The

919
00:42:12,640 --> 00:42:16,360
Speaker 3: saints or. Possibility, right you, know as soon as genty

920
00:42:16,480 --> 00:42:19,239
Speaker 3: goes you're right that now running backs back on the

921
00:42:19,239 --> 00:42:20,640
Speaker 3: clock In dallas at, twelve.

922
00:42:20,480 --> 00:42:23,360
Speaker 4: Because i'm Saying dallas at twelve becomes a spot For. Hampton,

923
00:42:23,440 --> 00:42:25,800
Speaker 4: Yeah AND i think that's why that's become. Popular it's, like,

924
00:42:25,880 --> 00:42:27,920
Speaker 4: yeah If gent's off the board there for a, while

925
00:42:28,040 --> 00:42:31,520
Speaker 4: Would dallas? Wait would you wait until the second, round you,

926
00:42:31,560 --> 00:42:33,399
Speaker 4: know when when all the guys could get picked off

927
00:42:33,440 --> 00:42:34,800
Speaker 4: by that, point or you just take care of it

928
00:42:34,880 --> 00:42:35,919
Speaker 4: then now.

929
00:42:35,840 --> 00:42:38,600
Speaker 1: We're just wrapping draft. Stuff, yeah not even talking.

930
00:42:38,680 --> 00:42:41,120
Speaker 4: Quarterback, yeah, well, hey when are we going to get a?

931
00:42:41,200 --> 00:42:46,120
Speaker 4: Touchdown Tommy? Mallott yeah, Right, cops.

932
00:42:47,040 --> 00:42:50,440
Speaker 3: Your comps are so much fun because most people's comps

933
00:42:50,840 --> 00:42:55,319
Speaker 3: are like the best possible outcome for this, player and

934
00:42:55,560 --> 00:42:57,880
Speaker 3: you have comps Like JIM, sorgi.

935
00:42:57,760 --> 00:43:01,000
Speaker 4: Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah well, yeah wait on, Yeah Jim

936
00:43:01,120 --> 00:43:05,560
Speaker 4: sergey was The canadian Kid Taylor TAYLOR. Elgerzma, yeah a,

937
00:43:05,680 --> 00:43:08,160
Speaker 4: Touchdown Tommy. Malot we gave Him John rice. Plumbing but,

938
00:43:08,200 --> 00:43:10,400
Speaker 4: yeah The Montana state kids shout out to.

939
00:43:10,480 --> 00:43:11,399
Speaker 1: Them four three.

940
00:43:11,480 --> 00:43:13,880
Speaker 4: Nine Tommy malot ran in the pre draft. Process but

941
00:43:14,520 --> 00:43:17,680
Speaker 4: it's always. FUN, dj you our. FRIEND i commed him

942
00:43:17,680 --> 00:43:19,799
Speaker 4: To Jamie. Newman remember From Wake.

943
00:43:19,880 --> 00:43:23,719
Speaker 1: FOREST i don't, Remember Jamie. NEWMAN i haven't Breaking i've

944
00:43:23,719 --> 00:43:24,760
Speaker 1: been not been breaking, down.

945
00:43:24,719 --> 00:43:27,560
Speaker 4: Uh With Jamie newman And Sam hartman were at started

946
00:43:27,600 --> 00:43:29,839
Speaker 4: their careers together at Wake forest once upon a. TIME

947
00:43:29,880 --> 00:43:32,279
Speaker 4: i Know Jamie newman played Over Sam hartman and.

948
00:43:32,719 --> 00:43:33,040
Speaker 1: Wow.

949
00:43:33,120 --> 00:43:36,560
Speaker 4: Yeah but Then Jamie newman, declared and the restless, history the.

950
00:43:36,600 --> 00:43:39,160
Speaker 3: Fact that we're talking about anybody From Wake, Forest Harold

951
00:43:39,200 --> 00:43:40,680
Speaker 3: fannin's you, know that's the.

952
00:43:40,800 --> 00:43:41,560
Speaker 1: Rare it's the. Rare.

953
00:43:41,640 --> 00:43:44,759
Speaker 4: Rake what's the well fan And Bowling Green?

954
00:43:46,000 --> 00:43:50,520
Speaker 3: Forrest, yeah, shoot never, mind should just edit this, out

955
00:43:50,600 --> 00:43:51,040
Speaker 3: But i'm.

956
00:43:51,040 --> 00:43:53,759
Speaker 1: Not i'm probably not going to him lazy At perry Wake.

957
00:43:53,840 --> 00:43:55,440
Speaker 1: Forest oh, yeah, yeah there you.

958
00:43:55,480 --> 00:43:57,200
Speaker 3: Go all, Right so that that's WHAT i was gonna,

959
00:43:57,200 --> 00:43:59,200
Speaker 3: ask because who was the last relevant Wake forest?

960
00:43:59,200 --> 00:44:03,520
Speaker 1: Player? Yeah, yeah At perry is. Irrelevant, Yeah Max brosmer

961
00:44:03,640 --> 00:44:05,959
Speaker 1: gets gets. Drafted he's got a real.

962
00:44:06,000 --> 00:44:09,040
Speaker 4: Shot, yeah you, know usually we get somewhere twelve to fourteen.

963
00:44:09,239 --> 00:44:12,000
Speaker 4: Drafted HE'S qb twelve on my. Board maybe it'll BE

964
00:44:12,080 --> 00:44:14,319
Speaker 4: qb eleven on some other, ones thirteen somewhere in, there

965
00:44:14,320 --> 00:44:16,280
Speaker 4: but he is right on that cut. Line but, yeah

966
00:44:16,600 --> 00:44:18,719
Speaker 4: coin flip shot For max and maybe even a little

967
00:44:18,719 --> 00:44:19,719
Speaker 4: bit better to get.

968
00:44:19,760 --> 00:44:21,799
Speaker 3: Drafted, yeah you, know you get a you get an

969
00:44:21,840 --> 00:44:24,000
Speaker 3: accurate passer guy that can process the. Field he just

970
00:44:24,040 --> 00:44:26,200
Speaker 3: doesn't have an nfl arm to, me now that's a d.

971
00:44:26,400 --> 00:44:28,560
Speaker 3: Arm but but you get a lot of the other

972
00:44:28,560 --> 00:44:31,520
Speaker 3: intangibles that could make him somebody who won't lose a

973
00:44:31,560 --> 00:44:31,960
Speaker 3: game for.

974
00:44:32,040 --> 00:44:34,120
Speaker 4: You, yeah he's gonna hang around for a while because

975
00:44:34,160 --> 00:44:36,400
Speaker 4: he can Make he makes the quick decisions and he

976
00:44:36,480 --> 00:44:38,680
Speaker 4: makes good decisions with the. Ball he just is an

977
00:44:38,719 --> 00:44:40,600
Speaker 4: athletic and he doesn't have a big. Arm so it's

978
00:44:40,640 --> 00:44:42,480
Speaker 4: a lot of it's a lot of paper cut. Stuff

979
00:44:42,520 --> 00:44:45,080
Speaker 4: but he it's it's a guy that wouldn't necessarily crazy

980
00:44:45,120 --> 00:44:47,959
Speaker 4: Embarrass yeah when, yeah if he was thrown out there

981
00:44:48,360 --> 00:44:51,200
Speaker 4: due to, injury it's just your offense would have to change.

982
00:44:51,200 --> 00:44:54,000
Speaker 4: Obviously the spacing would constrict and on you real. Quick,

983
00:44:54,080 --> 00:44:55,440
Speaker 4: yeah the field gets shorter With.

984
00:44:55,480 --> 00:44:56,000
Speaker 1: Max that's.

985
00:44:56,000 --> 00:44:58,600
Speaker 3: It, yeah for, sure you are the best they talking

986
00:44:58,640 --> 00:45:00,279
Speaker 3: in two weeks after the first, round onto the.

987
00:45:00,360 --> 00:45:04,200
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988
00:45:04,239 --> 00:45:08,080
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00:45:08,160 --> 00:45:12,239
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