1 00:00:02,759 --> 00:00:06,880 Speaker 1: Scary moment, real scary moment. In day two of Cards camp, 2 00:00:06,920 --> 00:00:10,080 Speaker 1: early got Danny surrec with me berg Gang. We discussed 3 00:00:10,200 --> 00:00:13,680 Speaker 1: as best we can what happened between two defenders, plus 4 00:00:13,720 --> 00:00:16,520 Speaker 1: what else we saw during the first open practice, and 5 00:00:16,560 --> 00:00:20,000 Speaker 1: then heard post practice from Mac Wilson Senior. We know 6 00:00:20,079 --> 00:00:22,959 Speaker 1: who will be the Mike linebacker. It's Cardinals Cover two, 7 00:00:23,000 --> 00:00:25,640 Speaker 1: Episode nine oh two, and it starts now. 8 00:00:28,680 --> 00:00:30,680 Speaker 2: Welcome to Cardinals Cover two. 9 00:00:30,840 --> 00:00:35,279 Speaker 1: Who to Baker? What Heart? What rent? This guy's unbelievable. 10 00:00:35,440 --> 00:00:39,760 Speaker 2: Cardinals Cover two is presented by Hyundai, proud partner of 11 00:00:39,800 --> 00:00:45,840 Speaker 2: the Arizona Cardinals, and by Arizona Cardinals Podcast. Visit Azycardinals 12 00:00:45,880 --> 00:00:47,560 Speaker 2: dot com slash podcast. 13 00:00:47,760 --> 00:00:50,040 Speaker 1: He's a the ten half of five. He's it again? 14 00:00:50,520 --> 00:00:52,680 Speaker 1: Some more Hurry magic. 15 00:00:52,400 --> 00:00:54,960 Speaker 2: Whow Here's Craig Griola. 16 00:01:00,000 --> 00:01:04,559 Speaker 1: So you watch enough football, Danny, you forget, or better said, 17 00:01:04,600 --> 00:01:07,520 Speaker 1: maybe take for granted what players put their bodies through. 18 00:01:08,160 --> 00:01:13,520 Speaker 1: We got reminded on Thursday first open practice at State 19 00:01:13,560 --> 00:01:16,319 Speaker 1: Farm Stadium and during a nine on seven drill there 20 00:01:16,400 --> 00:01:21,160 Speaker 1: was a collision, an audible noise I didn't see in 21 00:01:21,280 --> 00:01:24,520 Speaker 1: real time. I saw, obviously as everyone else did, the 22 00:01:24,640 --> 00:01:28,160 Speaker 1: after effects. But when you see a player, in this case, 23 00:01:28,200 --> 00:01:34,480 Speaker 1: linebacker JJ Russell face first on the ground, it is scary, 24 00:01:34,840 --> 00:01:40,039 Speaker 1: and then the entire building goes silent. Practice ended about 25 00:01:40,080 --> 00:01:44,759 Speaker 1: ten minutes early, and yeah, now everyone is hoping and 26 00:01:44,800 --> 00:01:48,160 Speaker 1: praying that Jj is okay. The latest from the team. 27 00:01:48,480 --> 00:01:51,200 Speaker 1: He is being evaluated for a head and neck injury. 28 00:01:51,680 --> 00:01:54,120 Speaker 1: He was alert on the field, had movement in all 29 00:01:54,160 --> 00:01:56,840 Speaker 1: of his extremities. He's been taken to a local hospital 30 00:01:56,840 --> 00:01:59,320 Speaker 1: for the testing and continued evaluation. 31 00:02:00,000 --> 00:02:02,480 Speaker 3: You never want to see that happen, of course, and 32 00:02:02,560 --> 00:02:05,920 Speaker 3: that's the game of football. And it wasn't even a 33 00:02:06,040 --> 00:02:09,040 Speaker 3: contact play because players aren't in pads yet. It was 34 00:02:09,080 --> 00:02:13,720 Speaker 3: a situation of Russell and safety Keen Crawford looking at 35 00:02:13,720 --> 00:02:17,280 Speaker 3: the ball, didn't see each other, collided and Crawford was 36 00:02:17,320 --> 00:02:19,680 Speaker 3: okay he got up and Russell did not. And that's 37 00:02:19,760 --> 00:02:23,640 Speaker 3: a hard moment when the music stops, the fans are silent, 38 00:02:23,800 --> 00:02:26,160 Speaker 3: and all of the coaches and players are on one 39 00:02:26,240 --> 00:02:28,960 Speaker 3: knee on the field as the trainers are checking out 40 00:02:28,960 --> 00:02:32,560 Speaker 3: and evaluating Russell, and they put him on the backboard 41 00:02:32,639 --> 00:02:34,560 Speaker 3: and then they put him on the cart. He was 42 00:02:34,560 --> 00:02:36,880 Speaker 3: carted off and taken to a hospital for further evaluation, 43 00:02:36,960 --> 00:02:39,320 Speaker 3: and you just hope that is precautionary and that he 44 00:02:39,480 --> 00:02:42,280 Speaker 3: is okay. First and foremost is talking about the safety. 45 00:02:42,760 --> 00:02:45,480 Speaker 3: It was not the same, but the air was stucked 46 00:02:45,480 --> 00:02:48,120 Speaker 3: out in a similar fashion this time last year when 47 00:02:48,120 --> 00:02:50,359 Speaker 3: Bijo Jalai went down with what would be a season 48 00:02:50,440 --> 00:02:53,760 Speaker 3: ending knee injury. Linebacker Mac Wilson Senior talked in the 49 00:02:53,760 --> 00:02:56,920 Speaker 3: locker room after practice of he was taken back to 50 00:02:56,960 --> 00:02:59,959 Speaker 3: when he had his concussion a really nasty hit again 51 00:03:00,160 --> 00:03:02,960 Speaker 3: the Patriots last season. So this is something that players 52 00:03:03,480 --> 00:03:05,919 Speaker 3: can relate to and you don't want to relate to it. 53 00:03:06,000 --> 00:03:08,680 Speaker 3: So he got some cheers as he was leaving, was 54 00:03:08,720 --> 00:03:12,960 Speaker 3: seemingly moving his extremities on the cart. So we won't 55 00:03:13,000 --> 00:03:17,280 Speaker 3: know more until we hear from the head coach on Friday, 56 00:03:18,080 --> 00:03:20,560 Speaker 3: and that's if he has any you know, real updates 57 00:03:20,600 --> 00:03:22,520 Speaker 3: to share at that point. So something to keep in mind, 58 00:03:22,560 --> 00:03:26,720 Speaker 3: and it makes sense practice was ended early. First of all, 59 00:03:27,000 --> 00:03:30,880 Speaker 3: you're not really these practices are important, but you're really 60 00:03:30,919 --> 00:03:34,359 Speaker 3: not going to lose much in about ten to twelve 61 00:03:34,360 --> 00:03:37,600 Speaker 3: minutes of the end of practice, especially when the players 62 00:03:37,600 --> 00:03:39,680 Speaker 3: are going to be checked out mentally, you know you're 63 00:03:40,200 --> 00:03:42,680 Speaker 3: just kind of discombobulated of what you've seen. So that 64 00:03:42,920 --> 00:03:45,920 Speaker 3: was the right call to end practice when they did. 65 00:03:46,080 --> 00:03:49,640 Speaker 1: And that's what Kalais Campbell said afterwards as well, that 66 00:03:49,720 --> 00:03:52,800 Speaker 1: it was probably and it was the right decision because 67 00:03:52,960 --> 00:03:56,440 Speaker 1: in that moment, you start thinking about your teammates, and 68 00:03:56,480 --> 00:03:59,520 Speaker 1: it probably would have been unfair to ask players even 69 00:03:59,560 --> 00:04:01,560 Speaker 1: coaches to kind of all, right, let's pick up where 70 00:04:01,600 --> 00:04:04,040 Speaker 1: we left off. How much more practice do we have, 71 00:04:04,080 --> 00:04:06,600 Speaker 1: how many more reps do we have? How about we 72 00:04:06,760 --> 00:04:11,840 Speaker 1: just pause, think about and pray for Jj and then 73 00:04:12,280 --> 00:04:15,760 Speaker 1: move forward, because that's what the NFL is, you move 74 00:04:15,800 --> 00:04:18,360 Speaker 1: on to the next. Now. JJ Russell is a new 75 00:04:18,400 --> 00:04:21,680 Speaker 1: player of the Arizona Cardinals third sh'd say is his 76 00:04:21,760 --> 00:04:25,200 Speaker 1: fourth season, going into his fourth season, but previous three 77 00:04:25,200 --> 00:04:28,280 Speaker 1: seasons all with the Buccaneers, but brought in for a 78 00:04:28,279 --> 00:04:31,920 Speaker 1: little bit more competition in that inside linebacker room. And 79 00:04:31,960 --> 00:04:34,880 Speaker 1: that's when we talk with Mac and you are right there, Danny, 80 00:04:34,880 --> 00:04:38,720 Speaker 1: that it not only hit him because of his own 81 00:04:39,560 --> 00:04:43,000 Speaker 1: concussion and being knocked on the ground during a game, 82 00:04:43,040 --> 00:04:46,719 Speaker 1: but now it's a teammate in his own room, someone 83 00:04:46,760 --> 00:04:49,880 Speaker 1: that he's getting to know and probably has gotten to 84 00:04:49,920 --> 00:04:52,400 Speaker 1: know over these last several months, and whether they or 85 00:04:52,480 --> 00:04:55,400 Speaker 1: not they had a relationship prior to the Arizona Cardinals, 86 00:04:55,440 --> 00:04:58,000 Speaker 1: but now all of a sudden, it's it hits a 87 00:04:58,040 --> 00:05:00,840 Speaker 1: little bit different when it's the guy that you were 88 00:05:00,880 --> 00:05:04,480 Speaker 1: probably sitting next to only hours earlier in a meeting room. 89 00:05:04,600 --> 00:05:08,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's again not something you ever want to experience 90 00:05:08,279 --> 00:05:10,080 Speaker 3: or have a teammate, especially someone in your room that 91 00:05:10,120 --> 00:05:13,680 Speaker 3: you are getting close to and learning from and working with. 92 00:05:13,839 --> 00:05:16,880 Speaker 3: So we will definitely share updates once we get them. 93 00:05:17,240 --> 00:05:20,479 Speaker 1: Want nothing but the best for JJ Russell and as 94 00:05:20,480 --> 00:05:24,240 Speaker 1: I mentioned, Thursday, the first open practice here at State 95 00:05:24,320 --> 00:05:29,080 Speaker 1: Farm Stadium Training Camp twenty twenty five, presented by Desert Financial. 96 00:05:29,200 --> 00:05:33,120 Speaker 1: Again now open practice on Friday next week as well. 97 00:05:33,120 --> 00:05:36,640 Speaker 1: Go to Azycardinals dot com for the complete schedule and 98 00:05:36,720 --> 00:05:40,840 Speaker 1: again how to acquire those free tickets, parking, admission, the 99 00:05:40,880 --> 00:05:44,839 Speaker 1: digital ticketing, all the information right there on Azycardinals dot com. 100 00:05:44,839 --> 00:05:48,240 Speaker 1: But the first time now, Danny and which what we 101 00:05:48,320 --> 00:05:52,080 Speaker 1: have seen through much of the offseason, specifically Mini camp 102 00:05:52,160 --> 00:05:57,080 Speaker 1: and then during Wednesday's first practice which was closed to 103 00:05:57,240 --> 00:05:59,240 Speaker 1: the fans, But now the first time the wee can 104 00:06:00,279 --> 00:06:04,720 Speaker 1: say what we have seen and further speculate, but now 105 00:06:04,800 --> 00:06:07,479 Speaker 1: with maybe a little bit more of background based on 106 00:06:07,560 --> 00:06:10,240 Speaker 1: what we have seen, how guys are lining up, how 107 00:06:10,279 --> 00:06:15,080 Speaker 1: the rotations look. Again, not in pads yet, it's still 108 00:06:15,160 --> 00:06:20,200 Speaker 1: kind of a normal off season practice, but you're seeing 109 00:06:20,320 --> 00:06:24,480 Speaker 1: some different things. Anything specific from what we saw, Danny, 110 00:06:24,480 --> 00:06:29,839 Speaker 1: that really stood out to you or further validated what 111 00:06:29,880 --> 00:06:32,400 Speaker 1: you saw during OAS. 112 00:06:31,839 --> 00:06:33,960 Speaker 3: And mini camp when you and I were standing on 113 00:06:33,960 --> 00:06:35,800 Speaker 3: the sideline watching practice and you told me that I 114 00:06:35,880 --> 00:06:38,360 Speaker 3: was right, that stood out? 115 00:06:38,440 --> 00:06:42,320 Speaker 1: Is that a good place, perfect, perfect, Where Danny was right, 116 00:06:42,960 --> 00:06:48,960 Speaker 1: where Craig was wrong twice? Yes, okay, first time. Okay, 117 00:06:49,040 --> 00:06:51,919 Speaker 1: here's the first time. And this was for those long 118 00:06:51,960 --> 00:06:54,560 Speaker 1: time listeners. The Cardinals cover two percent to be Hundai, 119 00:06:54,560 --> 00:06:58,599 Speaker 1: probably partner of the Arizona Cardinals. Anytime the conversation turned 120 00:06:58,600 --> 00:07:02,120 Speaker 1: to right guard, Danny had one opinion, I had another. 121 00:07:02,400 --> 00:07:04,520 Speaker 1: In fact that I told you off air, I love 122 00:07:04,560 --> 00:07:09,080 Speaker 1: it when we disagree or come at views differently, because one, 123 00:07:09,120 --> 00:07:14,120 Speaker 1: it makes for a lot more fun radio conversation. Plus 124 00:07:14,160 --> 00:07:16,600 Speaker 1: I prefer not to have someone agree with me all 125 00:07:16,600 --> 00:07:21,080 Speaker 1: the time. So I enjoy it because you give it 126 00:07:21,320 --> 00:07:23,760 Speaker 1: as well as you take it. Thank you, all right, 127 00:07:23,800 --> 00:07:27,880 Speaker 1: So where Danny was right number one right guard, who 128 00:07:28,000 --> 00:07:30,240 Speaker 1: was the first team right guard. Let me give you 129 00:07:30,280 --> 00:07:33,880 Speaker 1: the other four positions. Paris Johnson junior left tackle, Evan 130 00:07:33,920 --> 00:07:37,880 Speaker 1: Brown left guard, Yelda for Holtz center, Jonah Williams right 131 00:07:37,960 --> 00:07:41,040 Speaker 1: tackle who was sandwiched in between Yelda. 132 00:07:40,920 --> 00:07:44,880 Speaker 3: And Jonah Isaiah Adams going into his second year. Again, 133 00:07:44,960 --> 00:07:47,280 Speaker 3: this is early. Pads are not even on. We have 134 00:07:47,560 --> 00:07:49,800 Speaker 3: a lot more practices, a lot more to see. I 135 00:07:49,840 --> 00:07:52,800 Speaker 3: still expect to see competition. You and I have been 136 00:07:53,280 --> 00:07:55,360 Speaker 3: disagreeing in the sense that I have been saying it 137 00:07:55,400 --> 00:07:58,880 Speaker 3: feels like Adam's job to lose after fifteen games five 138 00:07:58,920 --> 00:08:01,920 Speaker 3: starts last year as a rookie, talking about the strength 139 00:08:01,960 --> 00:08:04,680 Speaker 3: he has added and slowing down the game mentally this 140 00:08:04,720 --> 00:08:08,000 Speaker 3: offseason getting ready for year two. And you have thought 141 00:08:08,040 --> 00:08:10,760 Speaker 3: it was maybe a newcomer, somebody like a Royce Newman 142 00:08:10,800 --> 00:08:12,880 Speaker 3: who's been playing in the in the NFL for about 143 00:08:12,920 --> 00:08:16,280 Speaker 3: four years, has about fifty games total under his belt. 144 00:08:16,920 --> 00:08:19,720 Speaker 3: From the first practice that was open to the media, 145 00:08:19,760 --> 00:08:22,880 Speaker 3: open to the public. Again, no bads, you can only 146 00:08:22,920 --> 00:08:26,360 Speaker 3: take so much from what you're seeing. Adams was getting 147 00:08:26,400 --> 00:08:27,280 Speaker 3: those first team. 148 00:08:27,040 --> 00:08:30,800 Speaker 1: Reps where Danny was right where Craig was wrong. Now 149 00:08:30,840 --> 00:08:33,679 Speaker 1: I'll say this cut that off Cody in my own defense. 150 00:08:34,320 --> 00:08:39,720 Speaker 1: There were signs again during OTA's and mini campings. This 151 00:08:39,880 --> 00:08:44,079 Speaker 1: was during the open portion when you saw the offensive 152 00:08:44,120 --> 00:08:48,320 Speaker 1: line just line up for their individual work. I saw 153 00:08:48,400 --> 00:08:52,400 Speaker 1: Royce Newman next to Jonah Williams alongside Yell defrole again, 154 00:08:52,520 --> 00:08:56,400 Speaker 1: was it something that was every single rep. No, But 155 00:08:57,720 --> 00:09:01,400 Speaker 1: whereas you seemed to maybe again maybe hand the job 156 00:09:01,440 --> 00:09:04,960 Speaker 1: too is too strong of a phrase to use. I 157 00:09:05,040 --> 00:09:08,440 Speaker 1: just thought maybe there was a little bit more influx, 158 00:09:08,559 --> 00:09:13,680 Speaker 1: maybe more uncertainty. And you've got Isaiah, You've got Royce, 159 00:09:14,080 --> 00:09:16,040 Speaker 1: and then we'll see if there's someone else in the mix. 160 00:09:16,120 --> 00:09:20,560 Speaker 1: But certainly from day one of open practice that we 161 00:09:20,559 --> 00:09:25,080 Speaker 1: can talk about. Your leader is Isaiah Adams, and now 162 00:09:25,080 --> 00:09:27,000 Speaker 1: everyone is trying to play catch up if they want 163 00:09:27,040 --> 00:09:30,560 Speaker 1: to be a part of that first week's offensive line. 164 00:09:30,600 --> 00:09:34,439 Speaker 3: Things could drastically change after Sunday's padded practice, the first 165 00:09:34,480 --> 00:09:37,440 Speaker 3: one for the Cardinals. When you're talking about competition, the 166 00:09:37,440 --> 00:09:38,960 Speaker 3: only way to know who is going to be a 167 00:09:38,960 --> 00:09:42,480 Speaker 3: better fit with your ones is to have your rotation 168 00:09:42,679 --> 00:09:44,640 Speaker 3: of that right guard in between your starting center and 169 00:09:44,720 --> 00:09:47,920 Speaker 3: right tackle. So that's good to see somebody like Newman 170 00:09:48,280 --> 00:09:52,079 Speaker 3: playing next to Froholt and Williams and see the chemistry 171 00:09:52,080 --> 00:09:55,319 Speaker 3: and the communication and how they are working as a group. 172 00:09:55,440 --> 00:10:00,160 Speaker 3: Tied together, things could drastically change for every position on 173 00:10:00,280 --> 00:10:02,320 Speaker 3: the pads. Come on, It's absolutely a position I'm going 174 00:10:02,360 --> 00:10:03,880 Speaker 3: to keep my eye on throughout camp though. 175 00:10:04,000 --> 00:10:08,120 Speaker 1: So that's the first team offensive line, second team offensive line. 176 00:10:08,200 --> 00:10:13,199 Speaker 1: Left tackle Calvin Beacham, left guard Nick LeVert, center John 177 00:10:13,320 --> 00:10:17,480 Speaker 1: Gaines backing up yell to Frold, right guard Royce Newman, 178 00:10:17,640 --> 00:10:21,120 Speaker 1: and right tackle Christian Jones. But we are seeing John Gaines, 179 00:10:21,160 --> 00:10:24,079 Speaker 1: who I think can play and has experience across the 180 00:10:24,240 --> 00:10:27,000 Speaker 1: entire line of scrimmage. But when you think about the 181 00:10:27,040 --> 00:10:32,520 Speaker 1: center position after yell to Frold, it's there's not a 182 00:10:32,559 --> 00:10:37,880 Speaker 1: lot as far as game day experience per se behind. 183 00:10:38,040 --> 00:10:40,719 Speaker 1: That's why, again knock on wood that nothing helpens to 184 00:10:40,800 --> 00:10:43,400 Speaker 1: yell to. But at least John Gaines, who I was 185 00:10:43,440 --> 00:10:46,400 Speaker 1: excited about when he was drafted because of his versatility. 186 00:10:46,480 --> 00:10:49,600 Speaker 1: Unfortunately that first year was wiped out because of an injury. 187 00:10:49,880 --> 00:10:52,080 Speaker 1: Now he comes in and trying to find himself and 188 00:10:52,240 --> 00:10:56,240 Speaker 1: might have found himself a spot active on game day 189 00:10:56,679 --> 00:10:58,040 Speaker 1: in the event he gets to tap on the. 190 00:10:57,960 --> 00:11:00,880 Speaker 3: Shoulder, and despite the versatility games has, it seems this 191 00:11:01,000 --> 00:11:03,200 Speaker 3: coaching staff from last year and what we have seen 192 00:11:03,280 --> 00:11:05,959 Speaker 3: early on this year that they like him at the 193 00:11:06,000 --> 00:11:09,880 Speaker 3: center spot. You need a good backup center tofrohold and 194 00:11:09,920 --> 00:11:15,120 Speaker 3: seemingly that is gained right now. If somebody as defensive 195 00:11:15,160 --> 00:11:18,240 Speaker 3: corner Nick Raalis likes to say, loses a shoe right 196 00:11:18,720 --> 00:11:22,440 Speaker 3: gets hurt during a game, a decision has to be made. 197 00:11:22,679 --> 00:11:24,680 Speaker 3: In this case, you know, worst case scenario, we're talking 198 00:11:24,679 --> 00:11:27,240 Speaker 3: about the center position. Do you move somebody like Evan 199 00:11:27,280 --> 00:11:30,320 Speaker 3: Brown from guard to center who has that experience, then 200 00:11:30,360 --> 00:11:33,520 Speaker 3: you have to fill in the guard position, or do 201 00:11:33,559 --> 00:11:36,280 Speaker 3: you try and only sub in one position and then 202 00:11:36,320 --> 00:11:38,360 Speaker 3: you're only having to put in a different center. So 203 00:11:38,400 --> 00:11:41,319 Speaker 3: that's why it's crucial to have a good backup center 204 00:11:41,360 --> 00:11:43,000 Speaker 3: so that if you need to, you can just plug 205 00:11:43,040 --> 00:11:46,560 Speaker 3: in Gains and you're not having to adjust other pieces 206 00:11:46,559 --> 00:11:49,360 Speaker 3: on the offensive line. And when you're looking at big picture, 207 00:11:49,920 --> 00:11:54,400 Speaker 3: the versatility of other players, there's a lot of competition 208 00:11:54,480 --> 00:11:57,080 Speaker 3: when you're talking about your swing tackle or your guards. 209 00:11:57,160 --> 00:11:59,720 Speaker 3: Right you bring in six round pick Hayden Connor this 210 00:11:59,800 --> 00:12:04,760 Speaker 3: year fighting for a spot with the other guards, Royce Newman. 211 00:12:05,320 --> 00:12:08,320 Speaker 3: You're looking at Calvin Beacham and Christian Jones going into 212 00:12:08,320 --> 00:12:11,920 Speaker 3: a second year as your big competition players for swing tackle. 213 00:12:12,040 --> 00:12:15,000 Speaker 3: So it seems like the best way for Gaines to 214 00:12:15,160 --> 00:12:19,720 Speaker 3: make this roster and really solidify his spot. His area 215 00:12:19,800 --> 00:12:22,839 Speaker 3: of expertise with the offensive line seems to be as 216 00:12:22,840 --> 00:12:23,680 Speaker 3: the backup center. 217 00:12:23,920 --> 00:12:26,640 Speaker 1: For what it's worth, Hayden Connor was getting work at 218 00:12:26,679 --> 00:12:29,160 Speaker 1: center with the third string, and it's a position that 219 00:12:29,360 --> 00:12:32,400 Speaker 1: he mentioned that he practiced every single day in college. 220 00:12:32,720 --> 00:12:34,800 Speaker 1: Did get a little bit of an experience during the 221 00:12:34,800 --> 00:12:38,800 Speaker 1: college football playoffs. So again that versatility, and we look 222 00:12:38,880 --> 00:12:42,640 Speaker 1: back a year ago. Nine offensive linemen is how this 223 00:12:42,720 --> 00:12:46,280 Speaker 1: team orchestrated its fifty three man roster going into Week one. 224 00:12:46,640 --> 00:12:49,560 Speaker 1: We just listed off ten names, not counting for the 225 00:12:49,600 --> 00:12:52,800 Speaker 1: rest of the offensive lineman. So all right, you're gonna 226 00:12:52,840 --> 00:12:55,719 Speaker 1: need a swing tackle. Do you keep two tackles? Do 227 00:12:55,760 --> 00:12:59,360 Speaker 1: you keep two three interior? So there's ten right there, 228 00:12:59,679 --> 00:13:02,040 Speaker 1: one more than a year ago. And if you keep 229 00:13:02,080 --> 00:13:04,280 Speaker 1: one more than you did last year, you got to 230 00:13:04,320 --> 00:13:07,560 Speaker 1: take away from another position. So again that's the juggling 231 00:13:07,600 --> 00:13:10,319 Speaker 1: nec that Mani's got to worry about again, way too 232 00:13:10,360 --> 00:13:13,079 Speaker 1: early here. You've got a full month of training camp, 233 00:13:13,080 --> 00:13:15,840 Speaker 1: preseason games. But this is where you kind of see 234 00:13:15,880 --> 00:13:18,679 Speaker 1: guys stand out more than another. 235 00:13:18,920 --> 00:13:22,520 Speaker 3: It's a numbers game. Whether it feels far away or 236 00:13:22,559 --> 00:13:25,360 Speaker 3: it is or it isn't. The day of cutting down 237 00:13:25,400 --> 00:13:29,960 Speaker 3: from ninety to your final fifty three is approaching. It's 238 00:13:30,000 --> 00:13:32,480 Speaker 3: not just a matter of competing against the players in 239 00:13:32,520 --> 00:13:35,600 Speaker 3: your position room. You are also competing against players in 240 00:13:35,640 --> 00:13:38,760 Speaker 3: other position rooms. We've talked about all offseason. When you're 241 00:13:38,760 --> 00:13:40,880 Speaker 3: looking at the depth and the skill level on the 242 00:13:40,920 --> 00:13:44,320 Speaker 3: defensive line specifically, what are the odds that the Cardinals 243 00:13:44,360 --> 00:13:47,280 Speaker 3: go from carrying six to seven in that room? Same 244 00:13:47,320 --> 00:13:50,840 Speaker 3: situation for your cornerbacksroom, which is very young, has some 245 00:13:51,000 --> 00:13:54,040 Speaker 3: experience and players that they want to develop. So if 246 00:13:54,080 --> 00:13:56,679 Speaker 3: you're going to start increasing the number of players you're 247 00:13:56,760 --> 00:13:59,360 Speaker 3: keeping in certain position rooms, you're going to have to 248 00:13:59,480 --> 00:14:02,480 Speaker 3: back out from other positions from last year. I do 249 00:14:02,559 --> 00:14:05,240 Speaker 3: not foresee offensive line being one of those rooms where 250 00:14:05,280 --> 00:14:07,480 Speaker 3: you take a fewer number than you did the previous year, 251 00:14:07,679 --> 00:14:10,439 Speaker 3: just because you need to be prepared and you need 252 00:14:10,480 --> 00:14:12,880 Speaker 3: to have versatility, because that is a position room that 253 00:14:12,920 --> 00:14:16,920 Speaker 3: typically does see a good amount of adversity rather throughout 254 00:14:16,920 --> 00:14:21,960 Speaker 3: the season. But it's a numbers game, and there's competition. Sure, 255 00:14:22,000 --> 00:14:27,200 Speaker 3: you know short vision tunnel vision of in your competition room, 256 00:14:27,760 --> 00:14:30,120 Speaker 3: and then when you brought it out, it's the whole team. 257 00:14:30,880 --> 00:14:32,880 Speaker 1: So if we're keeping track, and I know Danny will, 258 00:14:32,960 --> 00:14:37,200 Speaker 1: I will as well Danny two Craig, nothing is that fair? 259 00:14:38,720 --> 00:14:39,200 Speaker 3: It's fair? 260 00:14:39,280 --> 00:14:42,800 Speaker 1: Okay, there wasn't any other that I might have missed 261 00:14:43,040 --> 00:14:43,680 Speaker 1: from day one. 262 00:14:43,680 --> 00:14:45,760 Speaker 3: I'm sure there's something that'll I'm sure I would remember 263 00:14:46,200 --> 00:14:46,760 Speaker 3: in the case. 264 00:14:47,520 --> 00:14:51,480 Speaker 1: By the way, speaking of Jonah Williams, Zach Gershman has 265 00:14:51,520 --> 00:14:55,120 Speaker 1: a story soon to be or perhaps already posted on 266 00:14:55,200 --> 00:14:58,720 Speaker 1: Azycardinals dot com. Zach had a chance to speak post 267 00:14:58,800 --> 00:15:02,440 Speaker 1: practice with Jonah about last season, which was a struggle 268 00:15:02,640 --> 00:15:06,520 Speaker 1: for Jonah. A great first quarter in Buffalo and then 269 00:15:06,760 --> 00:15:08,760 Speaker 1: we don't see him for a long period of time. 270 00:15:08,880 --> 00:15:12,160 Speaker 1: Comes back for week seventeen and eighteen, or excuse me, 271 00:15:12,200 --> 00:15:16,400 Speaker 1: misses week seventeen and eighteen, and Jonah told telling Zach 272 00:15:16,480 --> 00:15:21,920 Speaker 1: that same knee, and yeah, it was an off season 273 00:15:21,960 --> 00:15:23,960 Speaker 1: in which he had to make sure he was back 274 00:15:24,480 --> 00:15:26,200 Speaker 1: to at least one hundred percent or as close to 275 00:15:26,240 --> 00:15:29,160 Speaker 1: one hundred percent but missing eleven games last season for 276 00:15:29,280 --> 00:15:31,760 Speaker 1: a free agent signing that came in with a lot 277 00:15:31,800 --> 00:15:35,280 Speaker 1: of hype, and you move on from DJ Humphries and 278 00:15:35,320 --> 00:15:37,800 Speaker 1: you bring in Jonah Williams on a big money deal 279 00:15:37,840 --> 00:15:41,400 Speaker 1: and all of a sudden he's lost after fifteen minutes 280 00:15:41,560 --> 00:15:43,920 Speaker 1: of Week one. You do see him later on in 281 00:15:43,920 --> 00:15:47,680 Speaker 1: the regular season, but that's one position that hopefully he 282 00:15:47,760 --> 00:15:50,960 Speaker 1: can be that guy this year and then you figure 283 00:15:50,960 --> 00:15:53,880 Speaker 1: out after this season. But you brought him here for 284 00:15:53,880 --> 00:15:58,120 Speaker 1: a reason. Jag spoke very highly of Jonah pre practiced 285 00:15:58,120 --> 00:16:01,040 Speaker 1: about the amount of work that Jonah put in as 286 00:16:01,080 --> 00:16:04,080 Speaker 1: far as being in the building almost or darn near 287 00:16:04,200 --> 00:16:07,880 Speaker 1: almost every single day. So that's I think a positive sign. 288 00:16:07,880 --> 00:16:10,360 Speaker 1: When those questions that we had going into tran and 289 00:16:10,440 --> 00:16:14,880 Speaker 1: camp about specifically the offensive line JOHNA. Williams right there 290 00:16:14,920 --> 00:16:17,480 Speaker 1: instead of in pencil, maybe you put that name in ink? 291 00:16:18,960 --> 00:16:22,720 Speaker 3: Oh? Absolutely, are are are you thinking that that's are. 292 00:16:24,320 --> 00:16:27,080 Speaker 1: Just the maybe if there was some uncertainty for people 293 00:16:27,120 --> 00:16:29,520 Speaker 1: as far as hey, how is he healthy? Is JOHNA. 294 00:16:29,560 --> 00:16:32,720 Speaker 1: Williams healthcare? I think you know, we saw enough of 295 00:16:32,800 --> 00:16:35,800 Speaker 1: him in OTA's in mini camp, but now in training camp, 296 00:16:35,840 --> 00:16:37,760 Speaker 1: it didn't look like he was being limited at all 297 00:16:37,800 --> 00:16:40,720 Speaker 1: and moving around just fine. I mean every single time 298 00:16:40,720 --> 00:16:43,320 Speaker 1: we saw the first team offense, he was the right tackle, 299 00:16:43,440 --> 00:16:47,320 Speaker 1: so there wasn't moving you know, hey, Christian Jones going 300 00:16:47,400 --> 00:16:49,960 Speaker 1: there for a rap or anything like that. It's to 301 00:16:50,080 --> 00:16:52,880 Speaker 1: use your phrasing, it's John Williams's position to lose, and 302 00:16:52,920 --> 00:16:55,760 Speaker 1: I don't see him losing it. Hopefully he doesn't lose it. 303 00:16:55,880 --> 00:16:59,560 Speaker 3: Absolutely. The word Gannon used was unbelievable to describe the 304 00:16:59,560 --> 00:17:02,880 Speaker 3: type of that Williams is. What was even more unfortunate 305 00:17:02,920 --> 00:17:05,639 Speaker 3: when he missed majority of last season is when they 306 00:17:05,720 --> 00:17:09,879 Speaker 3: signed him, he was a player known for not being 307 00:17:10,400 --> 00:17:13,399 Speaker 3: someone who fought injuries in his career. And you know, 308 00:17:13,440 --> 00:17:15,760 Speaker 3: it's similar to a blaon Nichols and Justin Jones on 309 00:17:15,760 --> 00:17:18,080 Speaker 3: the defensive line last year. As we talked about throughout 310 00:17:18,119 --> 00:17:21,520 Speaker 3: the free agency acquisitions, these were veteran players brought in 311 00:17:22,400 --> 00:17:24,719 Speaker 3: who were durable and who were reliable, and it was 312 00:17:25,200 --> 00:17:29,800 Speaker 3: really unfortunate that you have these veterans you were intending 313 00:17:29,840 --> 00:17:33,359 Speaker 3: on being able to rely on suffer injuries. It's great 314 00:17:33,440 --> 00:17:36,840 Speaker 3: because Williams was somewhat limited throughout like OTS and Mini camp. 315 00:17:36,880 --> 00:17:39,000 Speaker 3: Whenever we saw him, so the fact that, at least 316 00:17:39,000 --> 00:17:41,080 Speaker 3: from what we've seen in practice here at the start 317 00:17:41,080 --> 00:17:43,720 Speaker 3: of training camp, does not appear to be so that 318 00:17:43,880 --> 00:17:47,240 Speaker 3: is great news. It'll be interesting the decision behind him 319 00:17:47,280 --> 00:17:50,399 Speaker 3: as your swing tackle of Christian Jones and Calvin Beacham 320 00:17:50,400 --> 00:17:52,840 Speaker 3: as you start to go down the depth chart there, 321 00:17:53,280 --> 00:17:55,280 Speaker 3: that would be huge to get Williams back. There's a 322 00:17:55,320 --> 00:17:57,200 Speaker 3: reason they brought him in. There's a reason they paid 323 00:17:57,280 --> 00:18:00,080 Speaker 3: him all the money they did. And that's what you 324 00:18:00,119 --> 00:18:02,040 Speaker 3: want to have, is you want to have that consistency. 325 00:18:02,040 --> 00:18:04,040 Speaker 3: You want to have somebody that you trust opposite at 326 00:18:04,040 --> 00:18:05,080 Speaker 3: Paris Johnson Jr. 327 00:18:05,400 --> 00:18:08,560 Speaker 1: Looking O. We're at my notes, Johonna Williams had played 328 00:18:08,640 --> 00:18:13,000 Speaker 1: every snap in each of the previous three seasons. Going 329 00:18:13,000 --> 00:18:15,720 Speaker 1: into that offseason he signed with the Arizona Cardinals. So 330 00:18:15,760 --> 00:18:19,200 Speaker 1: again the availability then all of a sudden, he's not available. 331 00:18:19,359 --> 00:18:22,600 Speaker 1: Before we touch on the defense. As far as offensive 332 00:18:22,720 --> 00:18:27,880 Speaker 1: highlights during this first practice, yes, Marvin Harrison Junior looks very, 333 00:18:27,960 --> 00:18:30,160 Speaker 1: very good. During nine on seven there was an over 334 00:18:30,200 --> 00:18:34,359 Speaker 1: the shoulder catch. He certainly looks at least initially. First 335 00:18:34,400 --> 00:18:38,000 Speaker 1: impression of year two. Yeah, everyone is going to be 336 00:18:38,080 --> 00:18:41,920 Speaker 1: excited to see MHJ. In action here during training camp, 337 00:18:42,000 --> 00:18:44,960 Speaker 1: and hopefully there are more times that the quarterback and 338 00:18:45,000 --> 00:18:47,360 Speaker 1: wide receiver connect than we saw last year. 339 00:18:47,480 --> 00:18:50,440 Speaker 3: Absolutely that that has to be a priority is having 340 00:18:50,440 --> 00:18:56,119 Speaker 3: more explosive plays, a more deep, more threatening, deep passing 341 00:18:56,160 --> 00:18:58,240 Speaker 3: game for this offense. That's what the Blayers and coaches 342 00:18:58,240 --> 00:19:00,840 Speaker 3: said themselves when the season ended, So imagine that's going 343 00:19:00,880 --> 00:19:03,320 Speaker 3: to be a big emphasis, especially once the pads come on. 344 00:19:03,680 --> 00:19:06,679 Speaker 3: That's what I'm excited to see is some real competition 345 00:19:06,760 --> 00:19:08,280 Speaker 3: in the one on one battles and we can have 346 00:19:08,320 --> 00:19:12,080 Speaker 3: Marvin Harrison Junior and Will Johnson or against Max Melton 347 00:19:12,280 --> 00:19:15,720 Speaker 3: or against Darling Thomas. That's what I'm excited to see. 348 00:19:15,720 --> 00:19:18,359 Speaker 3: I mean, Harrison set himself. He's up to two twenty, 349 00:19:18,400 --> 00:19:20,919 Speaker 3: which is about eleven pounds heavier than he was his 350 00:19:21,040 --> 00:19:23,200 Speaker 3: rookie year, and you just have to take one quick 351 00:19:23,240 --> 00:19:26,520 Speaker 3: glance and see it as all muscle. And he's young, 352 00:19:27,040 --> 00:19:30,200 Speaker 3: so he's had what he said is kind of force 353 00:19:30,280 --> 00:19:32,800 Speaker 3: himself to eat breakfast in the morning when he's not hungry, 354 00:19:32,840 --> 00:19:35,880 Speaker 3: and that has helped. And that is a nice reminder 355 00:19:35,920 --> 00:19:39,280 Speaker 3: of oh my gosh, he's what twenty three, twenty four 356 00:19:39,359 --> 00:19:41,960 Speaker 3: years old. That's a pretty normal thing for most twenty 357 00:19:42,000 --> 00:19:43,880 Speaker 3: three and twenty four year old man to learn. 358 00:19:43,800 --> 00:19:47,440 Speaker 1: A newcomer and that wide receiver run a room who flashed, 359 00:19:47,440 --> 00:19:51,760 Speaker 1: at least to me, was Simmi Fajoko number eighty on 360 00:19:51,840 --> 00:19:55,520 Speaker 1: your program. But again, a wide receiver who's got some speed, 361 00:19:55,520 --> 00:19:58,400 Speaker 1: who's got some height, and during nine on seven had 362 00:19:58,400 --> 00:20:02,080 Speaker 1: a deep ball or deep catch thrown by Jacoby Brissett, 363 00:20:02,240 --> 00:20:06,200 Speaker 1: who certainly looks every bit as a veteran quarterback out 364 00:20:06,200 --> 00:20:09,280 Speaker 1: there as far as commanding the huddle, checking at the 365 00:20:09,320 --> 00:20:12,040 Speaker 1: line of scrimmage, good zip on the ball. But Simmy 366 00:20:12,119 --> 00:20:15,080 Speaker 1: is the name to consider to pay attention to when 367 00:20:15,119 --> 00:20:17,359 Speaker 1: you talk about the wide receiver room and how the 368 00:20:17,400 --> 00:20:22,520 Speaker 1: bottom half behind Marvin Michael and you figure out the 369 00:20:22,600 --> 00:20:25,600 Speaker 1: rotation or whose number three is it? George is it 370 00:20:25,720 --> 00:20:29,560 Speaker 1: Zay Jones? Is it Simmy? Is it someone else? Xavier 371 00:20:29,600 --> 00:20:32,920 Speaker 1: Weaver who's got the speed. Again another room where you've 372 00:20:32,960 --> 00:20:33,880 Speaker 1: got decisions to make. 373 00:20:34,119 --> 00:20:37,399 Speaker 3: Last year, Zach Pasco was a wide receiver who was 374 00:20:37,440 --> 00:20:40,480 Speaker 3: a big time player on special teams that I'm sure 375 00:20:40,560 --> 00:20:44,119 Speaker 3: is going to play into effect here. And I believe 376 00:20:44,160 --> 00:20:47,480 Speaker 3: Simmy Voco has special teams experience which should help him 377 00:20:47,480 --> 00:20:49,760 Speaker 3: but it is a question. Xavier Weaver was on the 378 00:20:49,760 --> 00:20:53,160 Speaker 3: practice squad as a rookie last year, but man throughout camp, 379 00:20:53,240 --> 00:20:57,000 Speaker 3: especially in Indianapolis against the joint practices with the Colts, 380 00:20:57,560 --> 00:21:00,240 Speaker 3: he looked fast. He looks like someone who could be 381 00:21:00,840 --> 00:21:03,840 Speaker 3: your deep threat with that speed, So that that's an 382 00:21:03,880 --> 00:21:07,400 Speaker 3: exciting competition. It goes back to the numbers game, right 383 00:21:07,560 --> 00:21:12,000 Speaker 3: is I believe they carried six receivers last year? Is 384 00:21:12,040 --> 00:21:15,119 Speaker 3: that the same number? Does that drop to five? Because 385 00:21:15,119 --> 00:21:17,760 Speaker 3: when you've also got the amount of threats you have 386 00:21:17,880 --> 00:21:21,160 Speaker 3: in the tight ends room with Trey McBride, Elijah Higgins 387 00:21:21,160 --> 00:21:24,240 Speaker 3: possibly getting Tip Ryman a little more involved. You've got 388 00:21:24,320 --> 00:21:27,960 Speaker 3: James Connor, Trey Benson coming out of the backfield, a 389 00:21:28,000 --> 00:21:29,240 Speaker 3: lot of decisions to be made. 390 00:21:31,240 --> 00:21:34,439 Speaker 1: It's gonna be fun and exciting to watch as we 391 00:21:34,520 --> 00:21:36,840 Speaker 1: flip it over or there were there any other offensive 392 00:21:36,880 --> 00:21:41,200 Speaker 1: highlights for you. Again, it was again everyone's excited about 393 00:21:41,200 --> 00:21:43,720 Speaker 1: that first open practice and then it just came to 394 00:21:44,119 --> 00:21:47,159 Speaker 1: a crashing halt and the air got sucked out of 395 00:21:47,200 --> 00:21:51,640 Speaker 1: the building. So it's again as far as your biggest 396 00:21:51,640 --> 00:21:55,640 Speaker 1: takeaways on day one of the open practice, Day two 397 00:21:55,720 --> 00:21:59,800 Speaker 1: overall here at State Farm stadium. It's your most recent 398 00:22:00,040 --> 00:22:03,480 Speaker 1: impression and that was seeing a teammate a player carded 399 00:22:03,520 --> 00:22:04,080 Speaker 1: off the field. 400 00:22:04,400 --> 00:22:07,960 Speaker 3: I think on offense, the only thing is where things 401 00:22:07,960 --> 00:22:10,800 Speaker 3: stand right now. And again this was one practice, so 402 00:22:10,840 --> 00:22:14,359 Speaker 3: maybe the rotation will change. It doesn't seem like a 403 00:22:14,400 --> 00:22:18,400 Speaker 3: heavy competition for backup quarterback at the moment, just because 404 00:22:18,440 --> 00:22:21,760 Speaker 3: Brissette was taking all of the reps with the second team. 405 00:22:22,200 --> 00:22:24,440 Speaker 3: That could change. That could just be today and then 406 00:22:24,480 --> 00:22:27,080 Speaker 3: when we have practiced on Friday, it's Clayton Tune getting 407 00:22:27,119 --> 00:22:30,560 Speaker 3: reps with the two. So but where things stood on Thursday, 408 00:22:30,560 --> 00:22:33,200 Speaker 3: it was Brissett with the reps with the second team. 409 00:22:33,440 --> 00:22:36,720 Speaker 1: And again, as I mentioned, yes, a veteran quarterback who 410 00:22:36,960 --> 00:22:41,480 Speaker 1: knows what he's doing behind center, and that's good to have. 411 00:22:42,200 --> 00:22:44,280 Speaker 1: Again I've said it all the time, and he was 412 00:22:44,359 --> 00:22:48,400 Speaker 1: the one big addition offensively as far as splashes if 413 00:22:48,400 --> 00:22:50,560 Speaker 1: you will, and someone that you hope to never see 414 00:22:50,920 --> 00:22:51,760 Speaker 1: during the regular seases. 415 00:22:51,840 --> 00:22:55,720 Speaker 3: Veteran quarterback with a lot of starting experience, very good 416 00:22:55,760 --> 00:22:58,199 Speaker 3: at protecting the football as well, not a lot of 417 00:22:58,200 --> 00:23:00,240 Speaker 3: interceptions thrown in his career on. 418 00:23:00,200 --> 00:23:06,240 Speaker 1: That subject, the football and something again it's recency biased, 419 00:23:06,240 --> 00:23:09,040 Speaker 1: but I don't remember seeing this last training camp or 420 00:23:09,080 --> 00:23:12,520 Speaker 1: the training camp prior, but unfortunately, the ball did hit 421 00:23:12,560 --> 00:23:17,080 Speaker 1: the ground a handful of times during Thursday's practice, as 422 00:23:17,119 --> 00:23:21,280 Speaker 1: far as it was batted down or dropped. And just 423 00:23:21,359 --> 00:23:24,040 Speaker 1: the once that ball was on the ground, danny to 424 00:23:24,080 --> 00:23:27,480 Speaker 1: see the number of a white shirts beaning white. I 425 00:23:27,520 --> 00:23:31,760 Speaker 1: mean the defenders wearing their white uniforms rushed to the football. 426 00:23:32,160 --> 00:23:34,880 Speaker 1: And how many times we heard players or coaches say, hey, 427 00:23:35,280 --> 00:23:37,199 Speaker 1: as a defense, we need to get our hands on 428 00:23:37,240 --> 00:23:40,840 Speaker 1: a lot more football's, more takeaways, more interceptions, bat the 429 00:23:40,840 --> 00:23:44,000 Speaker 1: ball down. And it certainly seems like it's been heard 430 00:23:44,440 --> 00:23:48,360 Speaker 1: in those meeting rooms and position rooms that anytime there's 431 00:23:48,400 --> 00:23:50,800 Speaker 1: a ball on the field, whether it's an incomplete pack, 432 00:23:51,280 --> 00:23:54,080 Speaker 1: there's a defender right there because you never know, hey, 433 00:23:54,520 --> 00:23:57,639 Speaker 1: did the whistleblow? Play might still be live and you 434 00:23:57,680 --> 00:23:58,880 Speaker 1: want to make sure you get possession. 435 00:23:59,000 --> 00:24:02,359 Speaker 3: Those are game changing plays. Those are impact plays and 436 00:24:02,920 --> 00:24:06,160 Speaker 3: interceptions specifically, the Cardinals had just nine last year, which 437 00:24:06,160 --> 00:24:09,040 Speaker 3: was tied for twenty fourth, So you need to be 438 00:24:09,040 --> 00:24:11,800 Speaker 3: better at forcing turnovers. When the ball is on the ground, 439 00:24:11,840 --> 00:24:14,639 Speaker 3: everyone's yelling ball, so everyone knows what they're looking for. 440 00:24:15,040 --> 00:24:17,639 Speaker 3: But the balls weren't just dropped or padded down. They 441 00:24:17,640 --> 00:24:19,760 Speaker 3: were punched out. There were a few balls that were 442 00:24:19,760 --> 00:24:23,160 Speaker 3: punched out by defenders and again no pads, right, you're 443 00:24:23,320 --> 00:24:26,160 Speaker 3: you're just kind of it's not going to be as 444 00:24:26,160 --> 00:24:28,679 Speaker 3: intense as a padded practice because that's the closest you 445 00:24:28,720 --> 00:24:30,880 Speaker 3: can get to an actual game. But the fact that 446 00:24:30,920 --> 00:24:35,600 Speaker 3: the defense is punching out balls and continuing through the play, 447 00:24:35,640 --> 00:24:36,600 Speaker 3: that's a good sign as well. 448 00:24:36,680 --> 00:24:39,760 Speaker 1: And that's something that we saw them practice during the 449 00:24:39,760 --> 00:24:42,919 Speaker 1: week as far as okay, ball security, but then defenders 450 00:24:43,280 --> 00:24:46,720 Speaker 1: get that ball out, punch it out as whatever way 451 00:24:46,760 --> 00:24:48,879 Speaker 1: you can to see if you can't scramble for it. 452 00:24:49,480 --> 00:24:52,480 Speaker 1: Speaking of the defense, one of the question marks that 453 00:24:52,520 --> 00:24:56,080 Speaker 1: we have had all off season, no Kaizier White, what 454 00:24:56,119 --> 00:24:58,600 Speaker 1: does this team do as far as the mike linebacker, 455 00:24:58,600 --> 00:25:00,960 Speaker 1: who's calling the defense? Who's the quarter back of the defense? 456 00:25:01,560 --> 00:25:05,760 Speaker 1: We got our answer watching and then listening post practice. 457 00:25:05,800 --> 00:25:09,480 Speaker 1: But watching practice, it was Mac Wilson Senior. He was 458 00:25:09,560 --> 00:25:13,560 Speaker 1: sometimes the only inside linebacker on the field, something that 459 00:25:13,600 --> 00:25:16,240 Speaker 1: I think we might see more of. If you want 460 00:25:16,280 --> 00:25:20,600 Speaker 1: more defensive lineman, more defensive backs, Mac could just be 461 00:25:20,720 --> 00:25:24,240 Speaker 1: that guy in the middle and doing whatever Mac does 462 00:25:24,320 --> 00:25:26,879 Speaker 1: and he does a lot well. And then speaking with 463 00:25:26,960 --> 00:25:29,720 Speaker 1: him post practice, he admitted to everyone, yes, he is 464 00:25:29,840 --> 00:25:32,680 Speaker 1: going to have that green dot. He's your quarterback. He's 465 00:25:32,680 --> 00:25:36,919 Speaker 1: calling plays and it's something that excites him and is different, 466 00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:38,359 Speaker 1: a little bit new for him as well. 467 00:25:39,000 --> 00:25:41,960 Speaker 3: Every linebacker has the speaker in their helmet. They all 468 00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:45,600 Speaker 3: practice hearing that, however, they don't all practice actually calling 469 00:25:45,640 --> 00:25:48,680 Speaker 3: the defense. So the fact that we got confirmation based 470 00:25:48,720 --> 00:25:50,879 Speaker 3: on what we were seeing in practices, yes, it is 471 00:25:50,920 --> 00:25:54,480 Speaker 3: Wilson calling the defense and it's something he said he 472 00:25:54,520 --> 00:25:57,439 Speaker 3: can handle. And even Gannon talked about that recently. Is 473 00:25:57,480 --> 00:26:00,760 Speaker 3: it's not easy, but it's a very doable transition for 474 00:26:00,800 --> 00:26:04,000 Speaker 3: somebody who has not called the defense before. And when 475 00:26:04,080 --> 00:26:07,200 Speaker 3: asked if there's a player who has given Wilson any 476 00:26:07,240 --> 00:26:10,040 Speaker 3: sort of feedback for him, and he laughed, he said, yes, 477 00:26:10,720 --> 00:26:13,520 Speaker 3: Glas Campbell, right, he's going into year eighteen. The defensive 478 00:26:13,560 --> 00:26:16,960 Speaker 3: lineman told him needs to echo, you know, the checkdowns 479 00:26:16,960 --> 00:26:18,760 Speaker 3: a little louder, make sure that he could hear that 480 00:26:18,840 --> 00:26:20,879 Speaker 3: part of the play call. And Will said, you know what, 481 00:26:20,880 --> 00:26:23,600 Speaker 3: whatever he needs, I got it. I'm learning. And that's 482 00:26:23,600 --> 00:26:25,800 Speaker 3: a lot. That's a lot to make sure you're understanding 483 00:26:25,840 --> 00:26:28,560 Speaker 3: what is being said to you by rawlas that you 484 00:26:28,640 --> 00:26:32,159 Speaker 3: are enuncieing it. You are making clear to everybody around you. 485 00:26:32,160 --> 00:26:34,280 Speaker 3: You've got the DB's behind you, you've got the linemen 486 00:26:34,359 --> 00:26:36,040 Speaker 3: in front of you, and then you're watching and you're 487 00:26:36,080 --> 00:26:39,000 Speaker 3: looking for what the quarterback is showing you. And Wilson 488 00:26:39,000 --> 00:26:42,359 Speaker 3: said he's also been having some fun with quarterback Kyler Murray. 489 00:26:42,400 --> 00:26:44,520 Speaker 3: We did see Wilson get into the backfield and back 490 00:26:44,560 --> 00:26:47,240 Speaker 3: down to pass in practice on eleven and eleven's. 491 00:26:47,520 --> 00:26:50,600 Speaker 1: That was really one of the first players, Yes. 492 00:26:50,480 --> 00:26:54,400 Speaker 3: One of the first players the backfield. Even this is different, 493 00:26:54,520 --> 00:26:58,720 Speaker 3: a different role for Wilson. You can tell very clearly 494 00:26:58,760 --> 00:27:03,560 Speaker 3: how comfortable he in this scheme from his experience last 495 00:27:03,600 --> 00:27:05,479 Speaker 3: year and what was being asked if him and what 496 00:27:05,600 --> 00:27:08,520 Speaker 3: he has learned. It really would not surprise me if 497 00:27:08,560 --> 00:27:12,159 Speaker 3: we see a significant amount of snaps where there is 498 00:27:12,200 --> 00:27:15,159 Speaker 3: only one linebacker out there, especially if two of the 499 00:27:15,160 --> 00:27:17,040 Speaker 3: positions we really have our eye on for what we 500 00:27:17,119 --> 00:27:19,440 Speaker 3: think could see an uptick and the number of players 501 00:27:19,440 --> 00:27:23,480 Speaker 3: on the final roster and d line and cornerbacks or 502 00:27:23,520 --> 00:27:27,560 Speaker 3: even safety right any of those dbs. That's very doable 503 00:27:27,600 --> 00:27:30,480 Speaker 3: with the personnel that this defense has correct. 504 00:27:30,160 --> 00:27:33,720 Speaker 1: Me if I'm wrong. This is the first time since 505 00:27:34,080 --> 00:27:38,639 Speaker 1: college at Alabama that Mac is the mic correct that's right. 506 00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:44,320 Speaker 1: So again, he does have some experience, but it's not 507 00:27:44,480 --> 00:27:48,159 Speaker 1: recent experience. And I do believe even though if he 508 00:27:48,280 --> 00:27:51,520 Speaker 1: is does become that full time green dot quarterback of 509 00:27:51,560 --> 00:27:54,560 Speaker 1: the defense. And the number of different ways we saw 510 00:27:54,720 --> 00:27:58,520 Speaker 1: Mac deployed last season, whether that's in the box, on 511 00:27:58,640 --> 00:28:02,679 Speaker 1: the edge, blitzeing, drop back, I get the sense that 512 00:28:02,760 --> 00:28:06,400 Speaker 1: he can still do that and still be that quarterback 513 00:28:06,400 --> 00:28:08,120 Speaker 1: of the defense. Just because you have the green dot 514 00:28:08,119 --> 00:28:10,359 Speaker 1: doesn't need to mean you stay in the middle of 515 00:28:10,440 --> 00:28:13,080 Speaker 1: the field the entire play. And we saw that him 516 00:28:13,320 --> 00:28:16,000 Speaker 1: getting into the backfield batting down to Kyler Murray pass. 517 00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:19,480 Speaker 1: So you might still see Mac do exactly what he 518 00:28:19,520 --> 00:28:22,560 Speaker 1: did a year ago, but the responsibility that he has 519 00:28:22,840 --> 00:28:25,960 Speaker 1: is more of that coach on the field relaying the 520 00:28:26,040 --> 00:28:28,480 Speaker 1: signals or the play call from Nick Ralis. 521 00:28:28,520 --> 00:28:31,280 Speaker 3: You have some of those more true linebackers, you bring 522 00:28:31,320 --> 00:28:34,280 Speaker 3: in a Keen Davis Gaither in free agency, you draft 523 00:28:34,320 --> 00:28:37,520 Speaker 3: Cody Simon on Day three, you still have Owen Papo, 524 00:28:37,920 --> 00:28:40,240 Speaker 3: So absolutely that that could be very feasible. 525 00:28:40,560 --> 00:28:48,920 Speaker 1: The starting defense Darius Robinson, Dalvin Tomlinson, Kalais Campbell, Mac Wilson, Senior, 526 00:28:49,080 --> 00:28:54,040 Speaker 1: Owen Papo. There's your front with Baron Browning and Josh 527 00:28:54,040 --> 00:28:57,160 Speaker 1: Sweat and then sometimes when there were just two cornerbacks 528 00:28:57,160 --> 00:29:00,480 Speaker 1: on the field, it was Garrett Williams on one side 529 00:29:01,120 --> 00:29:03,120 Speaker 1: and Max Melton on the other, with Buddha Baker and 530 00:29:03,200 --> 00:29:06,719 Speaker 1: Jalen Thompson manning the safety position. Did see Starling Thomas 531 00:29:06,840 --> 00:29:10,120 Speaker 1: rotate in when we saw him rotate in, Owen was 532 00:29:10,120 --> 00:29:12,280 Speaker 1: the guy taking off the field, and that's when we 533 00:29:12,280 --> 00:29:14,360 Speaker 1: saw a lot of Mac being that single guy in 534 00:29:14,400 --> 00:29:16,480 Speaker 1: the middle of the field and will Johnson, Yes he 535 00:29:16,560 --> 00:29:19,080 Speaker 1: did get reps with the first team defense as well, 536 00:29:19,080 --> 00:29:21,560 Speaker 1: but you are going to see a lot of rotation, 537 00:29:22,160 --> 00:29:24,640 Speaker 1: I think, on all three levels of that defense. When 538 00:29:24,680 --> 00:29:27,520 Speaker 1: we say starts, it's that first snap of the game 539 00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:30,120 Speaker 1: and then after that, it doesn't matter. Tell me at 540 00:29:30,120 --> 00:29:33,000 Speaker 1: the end of the day, how many snaps am I getting. 541 00:29:33,000 --> 00:29:36,120 Speaker 1: Am I playing sixty percent of the defensive snaps? When 542 00:29:36,120 --> 00:29:39,800 Speaker 1: am I playing thirty percent of the defensive snaps? You know, 543 00:29:39,880 --> 00:29:42,240 Speaker 1: that's something that I'll pay attention to when you get 544 00:29:42,280 --> 00:29:47,520 Speaker 1: those released on Monday morning. But that's the rotation in 545 00:29:47,560 --> 00:29:52,000 Speaker 1: the pieces that Nick Rollis's has, and then figuring out 546 00:29:52,040 --> 00:29:54,960 Speaker 1: how to fit those pieces together to form a puzzle 547 00:29:55,600 --> 00:29:58,400 Speaker 1: for one play, one series, one quarter one game. I mean, 548 00:29:58,480 --> 00:30:01,320 Speaker 1: I think it's going to change dramatically each. 549 00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:04,840 Speaker 3: And every week, absolutely because of whoever they're playing. That's 550 00:30:04,880 --> 00:30:06,600 Speaker 3: what you need to do is make sure you are 551 00:30:06,600 --> 00:30:10,440 Speaker 3: well rounded enough that you can be competitive against whatever 552 00:30:10,480 --> 00:30:13,040 Speaker 3: type of offense you are seeing. If it's a team 553 00:30:13,080 --> 00:30:15,720 Speaker 3: that has a more mobile quarterback, if it's somebody who 554 00:30:15,760 --> 00:30:19,440 Speaker 3: has a really difficult tight end to defend, or is 555 00:30:19,440 --> 00:30:21,720 Speaker 3: it they're outside threats that get you do they run 556 00:30:21,760 --> 00:30:23,640 Speaker 3: the ball down your throat? I mean, you need to 557 00:30:23,680 --> 00:30:26,440 Speaker 3: make sure that you can handle whatever your opponent is 558 00:30:26,480 --> 00:30:28,880 Speaker 3: throwing at you any given week. And that's what they've 559 00:30:28,920 --> 00:30:31,160 Speaker 3: really been setting themselves up to be able to do 560 00:30:31,200 --> 00:30:31,960 Speaker 3: this offseason. 561 00:30:32,120 --> 00:30:35,640 Speaker 1: We talk about three man fronts, four man fronts. We 562 00:30:35,720 --> 00:30:38,560 Speaker 1: saw a lot, especially I think in non passing situations 563 00:30:38,600 --> 00:30:41,360 Speaker 1: where you did have three down linemen, but you had 564 00:30:41,960 --> 00:30:46,040 Speaker 1: Josh Wet and Baron Browning hover as outside linebackers close 565 00:30:46,080 --> 00:30:47,760 Speaker 1: to the lot. So it did look like a five 566 00:30:47,840 --> 00:30:50,400 Speaker 1: man front with Matt kind of by himself in the 567 00:30:50,440 --> 00:30:55,080 Speaker 1: middle again, just another way for Nick to get the 568 00:30:55,120 --> 00:30:58,360 Speaker 1: best eleven on the field. And there's constantly shuffling in 569 00:30:58,440 --> 00:31:02,000 Speaker 1: and out. But at least on here, this first open practice, 570 00:31:02,080 --> 00:31:05,400 Speaker 1: you got a sense of, okay, where where guys are 571 00:31:05,560 --> 00:31:09,240 Speaker 1: at the moment. It could change tomorrow, it could change 572 00:31:09,240 --> 00:31:11,959 Speaker 1: over the weekend, but at least based off the off 573 00:31:12,080 --> 00:31:16,080 Speaker 1: season work, the coaches have this as who they believe 574 00:31:16,320 --> 00:31:19,080 Speaker 1: are your best eleven in base package, and then you 575 00:31:19,080 --> 00:31:22,360 Speaker 1: figure out, all right, it's no passing situation, we need 576 00:31:22,400 --> 00:31:26,240 Speaker 1: an extra dB and the inside linebacker becomes just Mac 577 00:31:26,320 --> 00:31:26,960 Speaker 1: by himself. 578 00:31:27,240 --> 00:31:29,360 Speaker 3: I think to a certain extent, there are still questions 579 00:31:29,360 --> 00:31:31,600 Speaker 3: of who are your best eleven on base defense. I 580 00:31:31,640 --> 00:31:35,520 Speaker 3: don't think that's solidified after two practices where you've got 581 00:31:35,600 --> 00:31:37,760 Speaker 3: helmets of training camp. I think there's a lot of 582 00:31:37,840 --> 00:31:40,880 Speaker 3: questions of who's your best eleven when you're talking about 583 00:31:40,920 --> 00:31:43,760 Speaker 3: your cornerbacks, right, who's your best eleven when you're talking 584 00:31:43,760 --> 00:31:47,440 Speaker 3: about your defensive lineman. And you know, do you have 585 00:31:47,480 --> 00:31:49,960 Speaker 3: a linebacker that is so good that you need to 586 00:31:49,960 --> 00:31:52,320 Speaker 3: make sure you have two or three linebackers out there, 587 00:31:52,440 --> 00:31:56,480 Speaker 3: whatever the number is. That stuff doesn't feel remotely close 588 00:31:56,560 --> 00:31:59,280 Speaker 3: to being solidified. This early into camp. 589 00:31:59,440 --> 00:32:02,400 Speaker 1: And that's I think that's what you want because you 590 00:32:02,440 --> 00:32:05,400 Speaker 1: want that competition or as JG said, friction, And I 591 00:32:05,400 --> 00:32:09,160 Speaker 1: don't think that just means more padded practices are more hitting, 592 00:32:09,200 --> 00:32:13,600 Speaker 1: but the competition within those rooms to create that sense 593 00:32:13,600 --> 00:32:15,719 Speaker 1: of urgency, that friction, if you will, and I think 594 00:32:15,760 --> 00:32:19,000 Speaker 1: we're seeing that more and more. It was good to 595 00:32:19,000 --> 00:32:21,280 Speaker 1: see even though he's not on the field, but Walter 596 00:32:21,360 --> 00:32:25,160 Speaker 1: Nolan the third walking around and signing autographs post practice. 597 00:32:25,240 --> 00:32:30,240 Speaker 1: So sometimes you forget about those injured players out of mind, 598 00:32:30,920 --> 00:32:34,160 Speaker 1: but Walter is at least healthy enough to where he's 599 00:32:34,200 --> 00:32:37,560 Speaker 1: not rehabbing in the back the entire time and then 600 00:32:37,800 --> 00:32:41,520 Speaker 1: engaging with fans because we were here on Wednesday, and 601 00:32:41,840 --> 00:32:44,600 Speaker 1: just the disappointment that you're not going to see your 602 00:32:44,640 --> 00:32:47,479 Speaker 1: first round pick in action here at State Farm Stadium 603 00:32:47,560 --> 00:32:50,960 Speaker 1: during training camp. That's a bummer. But he is out 604 00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:54,720 Speaker 1: here and smile on his face, greeting fans. 605 00:32:54,800 --> 00:32:56,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, you want someone who's going to be in good 606 00:32:56,400 --> 00:32:59,320 Speaker 3: enough spirits to go and engage with fans. Who I mean, 607 00:32:59,320 --> 00:33:01,000 Speaker 3: it says a lot that even though he's not practicing, 608 00:33:01,040 --> 00:33:02,480 Speaker 3: still want to come out here and cheer them on 609 00:33:02,520 --> 00:33:05,680 Speaker 3: and get his autograph. Did see bjo Jalari walking around 610 00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:08,920 Speaker 3: practice as well. So when you say just because they're 611 00:33:08,920 --> 00:33:11,680 Speaker 3: not out here, easy forget, not easy to forget, Craig, 612 00:33:12,920 --> 00:33:15,320 Speaker 3: But yeah, hopefully you see them in blond Nichols. All 613 00:33:15,320 --> 00:33:18,040 Speaker 3: three place on the physically unable to perform list, and 614 00:33:20,680 --> 00:33:24,719 Speaker 3: you have to wonder what the possible expected timeline is 615 00:33:24,760 --> 00:33:26,800 Speaker 3: for those kinds of players. They could be taken off 616 00:33:26,840 --> 00:33:29,960 Speaker 3: the list and practice whenever they're ready. Right, so there's 617 00:33:29,960 --> 00:33:32,120 Speaker 3: a possibility we see one, if not all of them 618 00:33:32,160 --> 00:33:34,880 Speaker 3: at some point throughout camp. That is best case scenario. 619 00:33:36,080 --> 00:33:39,040 Speaker 3: You also understand why this front office and coaching staff 620 00:33:39,080 --> 00:33:41,920 Speaker 3: is covering themselves a bit because by placing them on pup, 621 00:33:41,920 --> 00:33:44,160 Speaker 3: that allows you, when it's time to cut down to 622 00:33:44,280 --> 00:33:46,959 Speaker 3: final fifty three, to place that player on the reserve 623 00:33:47,120 --> 00:33:50,200 Speaker 3: and not have it go towards your final fifty three. 624 00:33:51,040 --> 00:33:55,280 Speaker 1: Before we cut you loose. Did I happen to see 625 00:33:56,520 --> 00:34:00,000 Speaker 1: you making s'mores during Day one of cards? 626 00:34:00,440 --> 00:34:04,680 Speaker 3: Okay, any opportunity I can to have smores, I'm going 627 00:34:04,720 --> 00:34:07,760 Speaker 3: to make sure it happens. Absolutely. You did see that, Okay? 628 00:34:07,840 --> 00:34:11,120 Speaker 1: I saw the posts on social media? Care to inform 629 00:34:11,360 --> 00:34:14,680 Speaker 1: or tease forward what that was all about, or or 630 00:34:14,719 --> 00:34:17,239 Speaker 1: maybe this is just something that you do away from 631 00:34:17,239 --> 00:34:20,080 Speaker 1: all of us while we're working. You're out there having fun. 632 00:34:20,280 --> 00:34:23,279 Speaker 1: It can still work. Finding a campfire somewhere here in 633 00:34:23,320 --> 00:34:23,800 Speaker 1: the building. 634 00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:26,840 Speaker 3: No, there was no fire. Let me make that very clear. 635 00:34:27,200 --> 00:34:32,600 Speaker 3: It was one of those flameless electric s'mores kits. So 636 00:34:32,680 --> 00:34:35,960 Speaker 3: on Cardinals, Birdwatch, Paul Calvic and I this week had 637 00:34:35,960 --> 00:34:39,400 Speaker 3: a little fun and the train of thought was training 638 00:34:39,440 --> 00:34:45,719 Speaker 3: camp camp, camp fire s'mores. So any opportunity I can 639 00:34:45,840 --> 00:34:48,120 Speaker 3: to make and have smores, I am always going to 640 00:34:48,160 --> 00:34:50,520 Speaker 3: take it. The good news is to listeners who are 641 00:34:50,640 --> 00:34:53,239 Speaker 3: hopefully also going to be viewers. We did not eat 642 00:34:53,239 --> 00:34:56,160 Speaker 3: the s'mores on camera because those are messy, so that 643 00:34:56,280 --> 00:34:59,200 Speaker 3: was saved until commercial break. You just got to see it, 644 00:34:59,480 --> 00:35:02,040 Speaker 3: and I will say it definitely took us a minute 645 00:35:02,080 --> 00:35:06,040 Speaker 3: to get used to the flameless burner and try and 646 00:35:06,040 --> 00:35:09,120 Speaker 3: figure out how to actually roast the marshmallows. That to 647 00:35:09,200 --> 00:35:12,480 Speaker 3: take us a moment. At one point I had I 648 00:35:12,640 --> 00:35:14,680 Speaker 3: was convinced Paul had never made us more in his life. 649 00:35:14,760 --> 00:35:17,520 Speaker 3: Even one of his techniques of roasting the marshmallow and 650 00:35:17,600 --> 00:35:20,080 Speaker 3: trying to put the chocolate directly underneath rather than going 651 00:35:20,080 --> 00:35:23,160 Speaker 3: for a gram cracker. So yes, I would, uh, if 652 00:35:23,200 --> 00:35:25,879 Speaker 3: you want a good laugh, tune into Cardinal's bird Watch 653 00:35:25,960 --> 00:35:28,120 Speaker 3: this week. And I do think that is something maybe 654 00:35:28,120 --> 00:35:30,799 Speaker 3: we're going to continue throughout training camp, so there will 655 00:35:30,840 --> 00:35:34,359 Speaker 3: be opportunities to improve our smores making game. 656 00:35:35,160 --> 00:35:37,560 Speaker 1: There has to be a blooper reel. 657 00:35:37,239 --> 00:35:40,120 Speaker 3: That was brought up by one of the producers on set. 658 00:35:41,040 --> 00:35:43,520 Speaker 1: It would be a great way to tease what's to 659 00:35:43,600 --> 00:35:45,280 Speaker 1: come on bird Watch. 660 00:35:45,280 --> 00:35:46,840 Speaker 3: By the time we got there and we were finished, 661 00:35:46,840 --> 00:35:49,480 Speaker 3: the smores were delicious. I will say that it's hard. 662 00:35:49,560 --> 00:35:51,799 Speaker 3: It's hard to mess up a small but they were delicious. 663 00:35:52,480 --> 00:35:55,759 Speaker 1: Paul still has the mustache, so I'm guessing he didn't 664 00:35:55,760 --> 00:35:58,480 Speaker 1: want the s'mores to get in the stash or that's 665 00:35:58,560 --> 00:36:00,680 Speaker 1: true that cash office probably. 666 00:36:00,400 --> 00:36:02,560 Speaker 3: You know, kay a good call. Yeah, I got to 667 00:36:02,640 --> 00:36:03,880 Speaker 3: keep the mustache clean. 668 00:36:06,480 --> 00:36:07,040 Speaker 1: Only, Paul. 669 00:36:07,600 --> 00:36:11,879 Speaker 3: Never you don't do a training can't mustache because. 670 00:36:11,600 --> 00:36:14,839 Speaker 1: It's very difficult for me to grow facial hair. 671 00:36:14,960 --> 00:36:16,040 Speaker 3: Put you on the spot like that. 672 00:36:16,080 --> 00:36:20,520 Speaker 1: Okay, it just wasn't doesn't look good. I have more 673 00:36:20,520 --> 00:36:23,240 Speaker 1: of like a five o'clock shadow. After two days or whatever, 674 00:36:23,280 --> 00:36:26,359 Speaker 1: we have nothing, nothing quite like Paul, and for those 675 00:36:26,360 --> 00:36:30,000 Speaker 1: that might not have seen Cardinals Underground and seeing Paul 676 00:36:30,040 --> 00:36:32,359 Speaker 1: calvisy with a mustache turn into bird Watch. 677 00:36:32,480 --> 00:36:36,279 Speaker 3: There you go, another opportunity. Okay, yeah, because I don't 678 00:36:36,280 --> 00:36:37,919 Speaker 3: know how long he's going to keep it, so tune 679 00:36:37,920 --> 00:36:39,080 Speaker 3: in while you can, all right. 680 00:36:39,440 --> 00:36:42,120 Speaker 1: I'm just disappointed I wasn't invited for Smores. 681 00:36:42,200 --> 00:36:43,279 Speaker 3: You know what, maybe next week? 682 00:36:44,520 --> 00:36:46,759 Speaker 1: Maybe next week filling once on bird Watch. 683 00:36:46,920 --> 00:36:49,200 Speaker 3: You did at You did a great job. 684 00:36:50,040 --> 00:36:51,919 Speaker 1: It was a lot of fun. I appreciate it. Yes, 685 00:36:52,200 --> 00:36:54,600 Speaker 1: Zach Chrischman and myself. It takes two to fill the 686 00:36:54,600 --> 00:36:59,080 Speaker 1: shoes of one. Paul Calvis. Good stuff. I guess I'll 687 00:36:59,080 --> 00:37:00,480 Speaker 1: see you again on Friday. 688 00:37:01,960 --> 00:37:04,279 Speaker 3: I'm already a point. I'm like, is that tomorrow there's 689 00:37:04,400 --> 00:37:05,800 Speaker 3: no days in training camp? 690 00:37:05,880 --> 00:37:08,760 Speaker 1: Sure that's true. Every day, no days off, go one 691 00:37:08,880 --> 00:37:11,520 Speaker 1: after another after another, no days off. 692 00:37:11,840 --> 00:37:12,200 Speaker 3: Love it. 693 00:37:12,600 --> 00:37:14,080 Speaker 1: On that note, we will put a lit on this 694 00:37:14,239 --> 00:37:17,080 Speaker 1: edition of Cardinals Cover two presented by Hyundai, proudly partner 695 00:37:17,280 --> 00:37:20,600 Speaker 1: the Arizona Cardinals. As always, special thanks to our executive 696 00:37:20,600 --> 00:37:24,520 Speaker 1: producer Jim Mamanre our associate producer Cuddy Fincher. For Danny Sirek, 697 00:37:24,560 --> 00:37:26,279 Speaker 1: I'm Greg rial Lou, we'll talk to you next time 698 00:37:26,400 --> 00:37:27,759 Speaker 1: you're on Cardinals cover two.