1 00:00:00,640 --> 00:00:00,880 Speaker 1: Can't. 2 00:00:00,960 --> 00:00:02,040 Speaker 2: I am six forty. 3 00:00:02,120 --> 00:00:05,520 Speaker 1: You're listening to the John Cobelt podcast on the iHeartRadio app. 4 00:00:06,440 --> 00:00:09,440 Speaker 1: We are an every day from one until four and 5 00:00:09,440 --> 00:00:12,440 Speaker 1: then after four o'clock John Cobelt's show on demand on 6 00:00:12,480 --> 00:00:15,240 Speaker 1: the iHeartRadio app, and you get to hear what you missed. 7 00:00:15,280 --> 00:00:19,720 Speaker 1: If there's any way not to miss anything today, don't 8 00:00:19,720 --> 00:00:24,040 Speaker 1: miss anything. Just leave work early, go sit in the 9 00:00:24,040 --> 00:00:27,080 Speaker 1: park by yourself, listen to it all. And if you 10 00:00:27,240 --> 00:00:29,520 Speaker 1: really have something else to do, you got to listen 11 00:00:29,520 --> 00:00:32,479 Speaker 1: to the podcast later. It's a rare day. We have 12 00:00:32,760 --> 00:00:35,120 Speaker 1: this much going on, so I don't want to waste 13 00:00:35,159 --> 00:00:38,000 Speaker 1: any time. There's like two new things I found just 14 00:00:38,040 --> 00:00:41,520 Speaker 1: in the last few minutes. The first thing I want 15 00:00:41,560 --> 00:00:44,240 Speaker 1: to do is tell you that at two o'clock Roger 16 00:00:44,320 --> 00:00:48,320 Speaker 1: Bailey is coming on. Roger Bailey is the attorney who, 17 00:00:48,680 --> 00:00:53,680 Speaker 1: among other attorneys, is representing thousands of Pacific Palisades residents 18 00:00:54,200 --> 00:01:00,200 Speaker 1: over the fire, and depositions are starting. They're starting to 19 00:01:00,280 --> 00:01:05,200 Speaker 1: depose staff from the California State Parks Department. 20 00:01:06,000 --> 00:01:06,240 Speaker 3: Uh. 21 00:01:06,280 --> 00:01:12,160 Speaker 1: These are the geniuses who the day after the original 22 00:01:12,640 --> 00:01:18,880 Speaker 1: New Year's Day Wachman fire, the day after LA Fire, 23 00:01:19,160 --> 00:01:23,880 Speaker 1: was trying to clean up, mop up, put out for 24 00:01:23,959 --> 00:01:26,120 Speaker 1: good what was left of the fire. 25 00:01:26,200 --> 00:01:27,520 Speaker 2: This is where you had the. 26 00:01:27,360 --> 00:01:33,560 Speaker 1: Hot rocks, the smoking tree stumps, the the you know, 27 00:01:33,600 --> 00:01:37,360 Speaker 1: the smoldering that was coming out of the ground. And 28 00:01:38,160 --> 00:01:41,360 Speaker 1: people from the California State Parks Department got in the way, 29 00:01:42,800 --> 00:01:45,640 Speaker 1: and among the things they insisted on it was we're 30 00:01:45,800 --> 00:01:47,600 Speaker 1: going to we're not going to allow you to use 31 00:01:47,640 --> 00:01:50,480 Speaker 1: bulldozers to create any kind of a fire break. 32 00:01:50,960 --> 00:01:52,919 Speaker 2: Can you imagine this. 33 00:01:52,920 --> 00:01:57,880 Speaker 1: This is while there were already forecasts of dangerous winds, 34 00:01:58,920 --> 00:02:05,280 Speaker 1: already forecasts of extreme fire danger. So State park reps 35 00:02:05,320 --> 00:02:09,679 Speaker 1: came down and started pushing the LA Fire Department firefighters 36 00:02:09,680 --> 00:02:14,280 Speaker 1: around saying no, you can't do that. And we know 37 00:02:14,320 --> 00:02:20,480 Speaker 1: what happened. The fire reignited because it was still a 38 00:02:20,520 --> 00:02:27,040 Speaker 1: hot area. Well, Roger Bailey and we'll get into this 39 00:02:28,040 --> 00:02:34,160 Speaker 1: next hour in detail. He got as part of the 40 00:02:34,200 --> 00:02:38,040 Speaker 1: evidence that he's been able to collect texts between two 41 00:02:38,160 --> 00:02:44,799 Speaker 1: state park two State Parks personnel on January first, and 42 00:02:48,639 --> 00:02:52,080 Speaker 1: he says weve and in one of the texts it 43 00:02:52,120 --> 00:02:55,480 Speaker 1: says we received the area avoidance maps from the state 44 00:02:55,600 --> 00:03:02,680 Speaker 1: thirty minutes ago. Palisades fire ignited right inside unavoidance area. Wow, 45 00:03:03,240 --> 00:03:07,640 Speaker 1: it's unbelievable. And these are the texts in between two 46 00:03:07,680 --> 00:03:16,160 Speaker 1: state park employees. Second page here shows the maps with 47 00:03:16,960 --> 00:03:24,000 Speaker 1: arrows where the Lockman fire started and then the perimeter 48 00:03:24,080 --> 00:03:26,639 Speaker 1: of the fire until it was put out. And yes, 49 00:03:26,720 --> 00:03:32,960 Speaker 1: the Palisades fire started right inside that same perimeter. So 50 00:03:33,280 --> 00:03:37,160 Speaker 1: this is proof that the Lockman fire gave birth to 51 00:03:37,200 --> 00:03:42,080 Speaker 1: the Palisades fire. This was the hot spot that wasn't 52 00:03:42,200 --> 00:03:45,280 Speaker 1: entirely out. This was the hot spot where the state 53 00:03:45,280 --> 00:03:49,080 Speaker 1: reps came down and said, no, bulldozers can't create any 54 00:03:49,080 --> 00:03:51,360 Speaker 1: fire breaks, right, because that's what you would do. This 55 00:03:51,440 --> 00:03:58,360 Speaker 1: is all park land here. So Newsom, among his many 56 00:03:58,600 --> 00:04:01,760 Speaker 1: psychopathic lies, had insisted they didn't know about the fire. 57 00:04:01,840 --> 00:04:05,880 Speaker 1: They weren't notified. Records have come out which says false. 58 00:04:07,040 --> 00:04:09,400 Speaker 1: State Parks was notified. In fact, they sent a rep 59 00:04:09,440 --> 00:04:11,240 Speaker 1: down in the middle of the night at four am 60 00:04:11,320 --> 00:04:15,760 Speaker 1: for the Lockman fire, and then these State park reps 61 00:04:17,000 --> 00:04:23,440 Speaker 1: made sure that LA Fire Department would disperse. And what 62 00:04:23,600 --> 00:04:27,720 Speaker 1: is written here in the texts, The red circles are 63 00:04:27,760 --> 00:04:31,719 Speaker 1: avoidance areas. Here's exactly where the palis States fire ignited. 64 00:04:32,160 --> 00:04:35,400 Speaker 1: Bottom of the three circles on the right. Entire Lockman 65 00:04:35,480 --> 00:04:39,360 Speaker 1: burnt scar is in an avoidance area. An avoidance area 66 00:04:39,760 --> 00:04:42,200 Speaker 1: is why they sent the State park Reps down. 67 00:04:42,600 --> 00:04:46,400 Speaker 2: It means you cannot do any kind of bulldozing to. 68 00:04:46,440 --> 00:04:54,599 Speaker 1: Protect the plants like the milkvetch plant. Seriously, they kicked 69 00:04:54,640 --> 00:04:57,760 Speaker 1: out the LA Fire Department because they didn't want the 70 00:04:57,839 --> 00:05:03,960 Speaker 1: plants to damaged or destroyed, so they didn't let the 71 00:05:04,040 --> 00:05:07,440 Speaker 1: LA Fire Department through the proper cleanup the day after 72 00:05:07,560 --> 00:05:12,359 Speaker 1: the January first fire, so it smoldered there for another 73 00:05:12,400 --> 00:05:15,440 Speaker 1: week until the winds kicked up on January seventh and 74 00:05:15,520 --> 00:05:20,680 Speaker 1: started the blaze that took out much of the Pacific 75 00:05:20,720 --> 00:05:22,960 Speaker 1: Palisades section of LA. 76 00:05:23,520 --> 00:05:24,680 Speaker 2: It's just astonishing. 77 00:05:25,240 --> 00:05:28,200 Speaker 1: So what we've been telling you this is exactly what 78 00:05:28,360 --> 00:05:34,080 Speaker 1: happened the massive among other areas of massive incompetence, but 79 00:05:34,160 --> 00:05:37,960 Speaker 1: it was the l It's the California State Parks Reps 80 00:05:39,279 --> 00:05:41,760 Speaker 1: who did shut down the mop up. 81 00:05:47,240 --> 00:05:48,000 Speaker 2: Where's Newsome? 82 00:05:50,080 --> 00:05:55,920 Speaker 1: He should be hiding in shame, but psychopaths don't feel 83 00:05:55,960 --> 00:05:59,200 Speaker 1: shame anyway. Roger Bailey's going to come up after two o'clock. 84 00:06:00,000 --> 00:06:04,200 Speaker 1: There's something else and I just found this right before 85 00:06:04,240 --> 00:06:09,599 Speaker 1: the show. Uh, the gas price is here in California. 86 00:06:11,000 --> 00:06:15,839 Speaker 1: I don't know about you. I paid four forty nine yesterday, 87 00:06:15,960 --> 00:06:18,880 Speaker 1: four to forty nine a gallon in my neighborhood, which 88 00:06:18,920 --> 00:06:23,640 Speaker 1: is near the average price. I think I mentioned a 89 00:06:23,680 --> 00:06:25,919 Speaker 1: week or two ago, I noticed in some of the 90 00:06:26,000 --> 00:06:29,200 Speaker 1: comments to one of our one of our social media 91 00:06:29,240 --> 00:06:33,520 Speaker 1: posts that a guy name's John Quickman I think in 92 00:06:33,560 --> 00:06:36,120 Speaker 1: the Colorado area, listens on the podcast and he sent 93 00:06:36,160 --> 00:06:39,960 Speaker 1: a photo of his local gas station at a dollar 94 00:06:40,000 --> 00:06:44,560 Speaker 1: eighty five a gallon five. But at the time he 95 00:06:44,640 --> 00:06:46,840 Speaker 1: posted it, he didn't put the location, and I mentioned 96 00:06:46,920 --> 00:06:48,200 Speaker 1: on the area, go we got a photo. Who we're 97 00:06:48,200 --> 00:06:50,000 Speaker 1: doing to have a location? Well, he sent the located 98 00:06:50,000 --> 00:06:52,760 Speaker 1: and when I first saw the photo, I thought, Ai, 99 00:06:53,120 --> 00:06:56,839 Speaker 1: it's doctored. It's a joke. Somebody's trying to piss me off, 100 00:06:57,800 --> 00:06:59,320 Speaker 1: now you know. 101 00:06:59,400 --> 00:06:59,680 Speaker 3: He he. 102 00:07:00,000 --> 00:07:02,200 Speaker 2: He gave a second photo with the full context. 103 00:07:02,279 --> 00:07:05,880 Speaker 1: You can see the gas station in its entirety dollar 104 00:07:05,960 --> 00:07:12,440 Speaker 1: eighty five price. Here are the top ten gas station 105 00:07:12,840 --> 00:07:19,760 Speaker 1: cheap fuel prices in Colorado, according to gasbuddy dot com. 106 00:07:19,960 --> 00:07:23,680 Speaker 1: Many of them are in the Denver area. There's a 107 00:07:23,720 --> 00:07:27,560 Speaker 1: Shell station on seventy two to seventy three East Evans 108 00:07:27,600 --> 00:07:33,480 Speaker 1: Avenue in Denver, Colorado, a dollar sixty nine. A dollar 109 00:07:33,560 --> 00:07:39,440 Speaker 1: sixty nine for a gallon of gas. That's almost a 110 00:07:39,480 --> 00:07:42,800 Speaker 1: third of the price that a lot of people pay. 111 00:07:42,800 --> 00:07:49,880 Speaker 1: Here a dollar sixty nine. You think maybe it's some 112 00:07:50,000 --> 00:07:53,720 Speaker 1: weird fluke. Some guy is draining his gas supply because 113 00:07:53,720 --> 00:07:57,360 Speaker 1: he's going out of business. Now, there's a quick trip 114 00:07:58,680 --> 00:08:01,960 Speaker 1: just down the road. Four seventy seven East Evans Avenue 115 00:08:01,960 --> 00:08:04,120 Speaker 1: in Denver, a dollar sixty nine. 116 00:08:04,240 --> 00:08:08,440 Speaker 2: Look at that. By the way, the Shell station is 117 00:08:08,480 --> 00:08:09,600 Speaker 2: from an hour ago. 118 00:08:11,200 --> 00:08:15,800 Speaker 1: There's a Costco on West ninety second Avenue in Westminster, Colorado, 119 00:08:16,040 --> 00:08:20,640 Speaker 1: dollars seventy four. Sam's Club dollars seventy four. Exxon West 120 00:08:20,640 --> 00:08:23,560 Speaker 1: one hundred and twentieth Avenue in Broomfield, Colorado. Oh, I 121 00:08:24,240 --> 00:08:27,680 Speaker 1: was there over the summer. Had relatives got married near Broomfield. 122 00:08:28,080 --> 00:08:34,240 Speaker 1: Exxon a dollar seventy four. Here's another Exxon Thornton, Colorado, 123 00:08:34,800 --> 00:08:38,040 Speaker 1: a dollar seventy four. We got a Costco at a 124 00:08:38,040 --> 00:08:40,760 Speaker 1: dollar seventy five, Another Costco at a dollar seventy five 125 00:08:40,800 --> 00:08:46,040 Speaker 1: in Arvada. Another Shell station in Westminster at a dollar 126 00:08:46,080 --> 00:08:51,000 Speaker 1: seventy seven. So I've got ten stations selling gas between 127 00:08:51,040 --> 00:08:55,120 Speaker 1: a dollar sixty nine and a dollar seventy seven in Colorado, 128 00:08:55,920 --> 00:08:57,840 Speaker 1: in the Denver metropolitan area. 129 00:08:57,880 --> 00:09:01,839 Speaker 2: Mostly you believe this. This is and again I told 130 00:09:01,880 --> 00:09:03,080 Speaker 2: you it was dollars eighty five. 131 00:09:03,120 --> 00:09:05,480 Speaker 1: A couple of weeks ago, a listener sent us, so 132 00:09:05,600 --> 00:09:08,640 Speaker 1: this is the steady price. This isn't a sale, this 133 00:09:08,720 --> 00:09:11,000 Speaker 1: isn't a special, this is this is, this is what 134 00:09:11,400 --> 00:09:15,400 Speaker 1: people in the Denver metropolitan area pay every day. 135 00:09:16,320 --> 00:09:23,760 Speaker 2: Dollars sixty nine. What'd you pay today? Insane? God, are 136 00:09:23,800 --> 00:09:24,600 Speaker 2: we getting screwed? 137 00:09:26,000 --> 00:09:28,320 Speaker 1: So I'm looking at the state by state prices at 138 00:09:28,600 --> 00:09:33,440 Speaker 1: gas at at triple a dot com, gasprices dot triple 139 00:09:33,480 --> 00:09:37,240 Speaker 1: a dot com. Oklahoma's average price is two thirty six, 140 00:09:38,200 --> 00:09:42,240 Speaker 1: Texas is two fifty one, Colorado's two fifty two. 141 00:09:45,040 --> 00:09:46,520 Speaker 2: And I look at I. 142 00:09:46,440 --> 00:09:51,440 Speaker 1: Look at high tax states, you know, progressive states like 143 00:09:51,559 --> 00:09:55,800 Speaker 1: Massachusetts three oh one, New York is three eleven, relatively 144 00:09:55,840 --> 00:10:00,839 Speaker 1: low compared to here, New Jersey two ninety five. Big 145 00:10:00,920 --> 00:10:07,959 Speaker 1: states Florida two eighty six, Texas two fifty one. 146 00:10:08,800 --> 00:10:10,079 Speaker 2: It's it's just shocking. 147 00:10:11,480 --> 00:10:14,000 Speaker 1: There's thirty six states that are selling gas under three 148 00:10:14,000 --> 00:10:16,959 Speaker 1: dollars a gallon, thirty six states where gas is selling 149 00:10:16,960 --> 00:10:19,679 Speaker 1: in the twos In fact, the national average is down 150 00:10:19,760 --> 00:10:26,280 Speaker 1: to two ninety four, two ninety four, and we're in 151 00:10:26,320 --> 00:10:31,199 Speaker 1: the force. There's only three states in the forest, and 152 00:10:32,920 --> 00:10:35,240 Speaker 1: with the highest price in the continental The United States 153 00:10:36,640 --> 00:10:41,240 Speaker 1: average here is four forty one. I paid four forty nine. 154 00:10:41,400 --> 00:10:45,040 Speaker 1: Apparently there's a there's a Modoc County up in northern California. 155 00:10:45,040 --> 00:10:47,520 Speaker 1: It's well over five dollars. I think five sixty something? 156 00:10:48,400 --> 00:10:49,240 Speaker 1: Is that crazy? 157 00:10:51,840 --> 00:10:52,360 Speaker 3: I don't know. 158 00:10:52,640 --> 00:10:56,840 Speaker 1: I don't know how people do this. And there's not 159 00:10:57,000 --> 00:10:59,640 Speaker 1: there's not a with a resistance in the air, nothing 160 00:11:01,760 --> 00:11:04,200 Speaker 1: not with Yeah here at Omano County, I should say 161 00:11:04,400 --> 00:11:08,040 Speaker 1: Mono County five sixty six a gallon here in California, 162 00:11:08,240 --> 00:11:10,199 Speaker 1: I got a state, I got a county by county 163 00:11:10,280 --> 00:11:15,079 Speaker 1: state price here the hell doller sixty nine in Colorado. 164 00:11:15,679 --> 00:11:21,160 Speaker 1: That's a liberal state run by Democrats. What are we 165 00:11:21,200 --> 00:11:27,840 Speaker 1: doing here? How many times do you want to get 166 00:11:27,880 --> 00:11:32,120 Speaker 1: bent over? How many times? How many times do you 167 00:11:32,160 --> 00:11:36,680 Speaker 1: want to take it? Coming up the after one thirty, 168 00:11:37,720 --> 00:11:40,040 Speaker 1: we are going to talk to John Alley. John Alley 169 00:11:40,559 --> 00:11:44,640 Speaker 1: owns a number of businesses Santa Monica and actually in 170 00:11:44,679 --> 00:11:48,199 Speaker 1: the MacArthur Park area, and we've got a couple of 171 00:11:48,240 --> 00:11:51,800 Speaker 1: stories to cover. One about the Santa Monica mayor who 172 00:11:52,240 --> 00:11:54,840 Speaker 1: the new one who got caught lying about her role 173 00:11:55,240 --> 00:12:01,800 Speaker 1: in trying to bring into two groups of severely ill 174 00:12:02,320 --> 00:12:08,199 Speaker 1: severely mentally ill patients into residential neighborhoods. These are homeless people, 175 00:12:08,480 --> 00:12:11,960 Speaker 1: severely mentally ill, and there were two former nursing homes 176 00:12:11,960 --> 00:12:15,800 Speaker 1: in a residential area that this mayor, when she was 177 00:12:15,840 --> 00:12:19,480 Speaker 1: a city councilwoman, helped arrange that they would invade the 178 00:12:19,480 --> 00:12:23,320 Speaker 1: neighborhood and keep it secret from the locals. She got caught. Line, 179 00:12:23,360 --> 00:12:26,880 Speaker 1: that's a big story. And then John Ally's going to 180 00:12:26,960 --> 00:12:32,160 Speaker 1: tell us about what has been witten, what is going 181 00:12:32,200 --> 00:12:36,640 Speaker 1: on in the MacArthur Park area with a nonprofit handling 182 00:12:36,640 --> 00:12:41,840 Speaker 1: out needles and met pipes, even though Karen Bass swore 183 00:12:42,120 --> 00:12:45,760 Speaker 1: to him that she's not going to put up with that. 184 00:12:47,800 --> 00:12:49,400 Speaker 1: So there's a lot of good stuff coming up. 185 00:12:50,160 --> 00:12:54,480 Speaker 4: You're listening to John Cobelts on demand from KFI AM 186 00:12:54,520 --> 00:12:55,319 Speaker 4: six forty. 187 00:12:56,760 --> 00:13:01,400 Speaker 1: Live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app. Moistline for tomorrow is 188 00:13:01,440 --> 00:13:04,320 Speaker 1: eight seven seven Moist eighty six eight seven seven moist 189 00:13:04,720 --> 00:13:07,400 Speaker 1: eighty six, or you can use the talk pack feature 190 00:13:07,760 --> 00:13:15,160 Speaker 1: on the iHeartRadio app So follow up to Monday night, 191 00:13:15,200 --> 00:13:18,800 Speaker 1: I was on CNN Alex Michaelson's new show, The Story Is, 192 00:13:19,360 --> 00:13:21,960 Speaker 1: and we talked a lot about the exchange I had 193 00:13:21,960 --> 00:13:26,000 Speaker 1: with our Vita Martin, who's a civil rights attorney, and 194 00:13:26,200 --> 00:13:29,680 Speaker 1: we were talking about Gavin Newsom and how he got 195 00:13:29,760 --> 00:13:33,560 Speaker 1: shunned by the Trump administration when we went to Washington, 196 00:13:33,640 --> 00:13:37,160 Speaker 1: d C. Trying to allegedly get fire rebuild money. He 197 00:13:37,200 --> 00:13:41,679 Speaker 1: wants thirty four billion, And what I said on the 198 00:13:41,720 --> 00:13:44,200 Speaker 1: show at the time was, well, if I was in 199 00:13:44,240 --> 00:13:47,320 Speaker 1: the Trump administration, why would I give this guy any money? 200 00:13:47,840 --> 00:13:52,040 Speaker 1: Because he admitted he blew twenty four billion dollars in 201 00:13:52,120 --> 00:13:56,319 Speaker 1: homeless money, he doesn't know what happened to it, can't 202 00:13:56,320 --> 00:14:03,040 Speaker 1: account for it or its effectiveness, and and other categories 203 00:14:03,080 --> 00:14:06,360 Speaker 1: where he's blown billions of dollars, and our Vita Martin 204 00:14:06,520 --> 00:14:10,559 Speaker 1: just flat out wouldn't believe it. She said, those facts 205 00:14:10,600 --> 00:14:14,040 Speaker 1: are in facts, this is not true. And this caused 206 00:14:14,040 --> 00:14:17,679 Speaker 1: a huge reaction once we posted this thing online and 207 00:14:18,880 --> 00:14:21,920 Speaker 1: just hundreds of thousands of people have now viewed the 208 00:14:23,920 --> 00:14:26,800 Speaker 1: I have now viewed the exchange and a lot of 209 00:14:26,800 --> 00:14:31,320 Speaker 1: commentary on it. Next day, I went to chet GPT 210 00:14:32,520 --> 00:14:35,840 Speaker 1: and you know, when you ask chet GPT a question, 211 00:14:35,920 --> 00:14:39,000 Speaker 1: you get slightly you get the same answer to do 212 00:14:39,040 --> 00:14:40,840 Speaker 1: it more than once, but depending on how you worry, 213 00:14:40,880 --> 00:14:44,560 Speaker 1: you get slight variations. So a friend of mine he 214 00:14:44,640 --> 00:14:49,760 Speaker 1: went to chat GPT two and asked this question, does 215 00:14:49,840 --> 00:14:53,960 Speaker 1: Newsom know where the twenty four billion for homelessness went? 216 00:14:55,000 --> 00:14:56,240 Speaker 2: All right? 217 00:14:57,040 --> 00:15:04,520 Speaker 1: And chet GPT's answer was a flat out no, because 218 00:15:04,560 --> 00:15:07,360 Speaker 1: our Vieta Martin just wouldn't just didn't believe that he 219 00:15:07,480 --> 00:15:11,800 Speaker 1: actually didn't know where the money went, and admitted that 220 00:15:11,880 --> 00:15:15,240 Speaker 1: he didn't know where the money went. He admits it 221 00:15:15,280 --> 00:15:20,800 Speaker 1: because he knows politically he's bulletproof that nobody in California 222 00:15:21,120 --> 00:15:23,400 Speaker 1: will will ever vote him out of office. 223 00:15:23,400 --> 00:15:27,520 Speaker 2: They never have and they never will. 224 00:15:27,680 --> 00:15:31,200 Speaker 1: In fact, he runs for president as the Democratic nominee, 225 00:15:31,240 --> 00:15:35,440 Speaker 1: he'll win California probably three to one. So he could 226 00:15:35,480 --> 00:15:39,360 Speaker 1: admit that he blew twenty four billion dollars on a program, 227 00:15:39,520 --> 00:15:42,000 Speaker 1: a massive program that didn't work, and he knows he 228 00:15:42,080 --> 00:15:45,800 Speaker 1: blew it, but hey, so what, you suckers are still going. 229 00:15:45,800 --> 00:15:46,360 Speaker 2: To vote for me. 230 00:15:48,600 --> 00:15:52,360 Speaker 1: So chant GPT rights, No, Governor Newsom does not have 231 00:15:52,400 --> 00:15:54,680 Speaker 1: a clear accounting of where all the twenty four billion 232 00:15:54,720 --> 00:15:59,680 Speaker 1: dollars spent on homelessness went as a major twenty twenty 233 00:15:59,720 --> 00:16:04,120 Speaker 1: four state audit found California lacks consistent tracking and outcome 234 00:16:04,240 --> 00:16:10,680 Speaker 1: data for its newest programs. Yeah, this is an audit 235 00:16:11,080 --> 00:16:14,480 Speaker 1: from the News of Administration eight of the twenty four billion. 236 00:16:16,800 --> 00:16:21,560 Speaker 1: This is leading to questions about effectiveness despite increased homelessness numbers. 237 00:16:22,920 --> 00:16:26,880 Speaker 1: When the state allocated funds for various initiatives like Project 238 00:16:26,920 --> 00:16:30,680 Speaker 1: Home Key, it failed to establish reliable systems to monitor 239 00:16:30,800 --> 00:16:34,920 Speaker 1: costs and results. This stuff is basic, by the way, 240 00:16:35,120 --> 00:16:38,360 Speaker 1: When you have a massive program that gives out billions 241 00:16:38,400 --> 00:16:42,120 Speaker 1: systems to monitor costs and results, you have to have 242 00:16:42,240 --> 00:16:45,920 Speaker 1: had that sketched out on day one. They never bothered 243 00:16:49,040 --> 00:16:51,480 Speaker 1: key audit findings and this is April twenty twenty four. 244 00:16:51,880 --> 00:16:56,080 Speaker 1: Inadequate tracking. The state wasn't consistently monitoring the costs and 245 00:16:56,160 --> 00:17:03,040 Speaker 1: outcomes of its vast homelessness initiatives. Increased homelessness despite billions 246 00:17:03,080 --> 00:17:06,080 Speaker 1: spent from twenty eighteen to twenty twenty three, the number 247 00:17:06,160 --> 00:17:12,160 Speaker 1: of people homeless rose significantly limited effectiveness. The audit found 248 00:17:12,200 --> 00:17:14,400 Speaker 1: that only a few of the assessed programs were likely 249 00:17:14,400 --> 00:17:15,640 Speaker 1: cost effective. 250 00:17:15,400 --> 00:17:17,840 Speaker 2: With no reliable way to know which work best. 251 00:17:17,840 --> 00:17:20,280 Speaker 1: By the way, they got all their information from about 252 00:17:20,760 --> 00:17:25,840 Speaker 1: eight nine ten news media reports and information from the 253 00:17:25,880 --> 00:17:27,080 Speaker 1: governor's own office. 254 00:17:29,560 --> 00:17:32,600 Speaker 2: Newsom's response bullet point number one. 255 00:17:32,800 --> 00:17:36,320 Speaker 1: Newsom acknowledged the audit's findings, stating it wasn't a surprise, 256 00:17:37,440 --> 00:17:40,000 Speaker 1: So he admitted it and admitted he wasn't a surprise. 257 00:17:40,240 --> 00:17:42,960 Speaker 1: So he knew for quite some time that the twenty 258 00:17:42,960 --> 00:17:46,040 Speaker 1: four billion they were shoveling out was doing no good. 259 00:17:46,359 --> 00:17:47,359 Speaker 2: Because he has eyes. 260 00:17:47,400 --> 00:17:50,160 Speaker 1: He can see Sacramento, the bodies piling up in the streets, 261 00:17:51,280 --> 00:17:56,679 Speaker 1: some of them dead. Newsom also vetoed a bill that 262 00:17:56,680 --> 00:18:03,520 Speaker 1: would have created a centralized tracking system for homelessness, so 263 00:18:03,640 --> 00:18:08,160 Speaker 1: he voted against tracking the money. He not only spent 264 00:18:08,200 --> 00:18:11,280 Speaker 1: the money, he knew the money was getting wasted and 265 00:18:11,400 --> 00:18:19,040 Speaker 1: veto to bill that would track it. This is gonna 266 00:18:19,040 --> 00:18:23,920 Speaker 1: be a great presidential campaign. Boy. I I just hope 267 00:18:23,960 --> 00:18:27,840 Speaker 1: it's Democratics. Democratic opponents knock him out in the in 268 00:18:27,880 --> 00:18:32,280 Speaker 1: the first two months. All right, when we come back, yea, 269 00:18:32,480 --> 00:18:39,000 Speaker 1: he stever ends John Alley. He's an area businessman and 270 00:18:39,080 --> 00:18:42,560 Speaker 1: among the places he has properties is Sata Monica, which 271 00:18:42,600 --> 00:18:46,640 Speaker 1: is beset by all the vagrants and mental patients. And 272 00:18:46,880 --> 00:18:51,960 Speaker 1: he also owns his businesses in the MacArthur Park area. Uh, 273 00:18:52,240 --> 00:18:55,320 Speaker 1: and that's really crazy because you could add a lot 274 00:18:55,320 --> 00:19:00,080 Speaker 1: of criminals and gang members to the mix. Well, well, 275 00:19:00,119 --> 00:19:03,520 Speaker 1: he's going to talk about both places because the new 276 00:19:03,560 --> 00:19:05,680 Speaker 1: mayor of Santa Monica is under a lot of pressure 277 00:19:05,720 --> 00:19:11,159 Speaker 1: to get out because she lied about her role in 278 00:19:11,480 --> 00:19:16,680 Speaker 1: agreeing to have two homeless shelters in a residential neighborhood 279 00:19:17,080 --> 00:19:21,000 Speaker 1: that we're going to house severely mentally ill people. Didn't 280 00:19:21,000 --> 00:19:23,320 Speaker 1: tell anybody in the neighborhood. She was doing it secretly 281 00:19:23,359 --> 00:19:27,080 Speaker 1: when she was a councilwoman, now she's the mayor. And 282 00:19:27,119 --> 00:19:34,680 Speaker 1: then secondly, about the MacArthur Park area, he says Karen 283 00:19:34,760 --> 00:19:39,760 Speaker 1: Bass said she was against a program that would hand 284 00:19:39,760 --> 00:19:44,480 Speaker 1: out free needles and meth pipes. Well, it looks like 285 00:19:45,200 --> 00:19:48,440 Speaker 1: the city signed a contract with a group to hand 286 00:19:48,440 --> 00:19:53,240 Speaker 1: out free needles and meth pipes in MacArthur Park. So 287 00:19:53,320 --> 00:19:55,320 Speaker 1: John Alley will talk about all that coming up next. 288 00:19:56,520 --> 00:20:00,879 Speaker 4: You're listening to John Cobel's on demand from I AM 289 00:20:00,920 --> 00:20:01,440 Speaker 4: six forty. 290 00:20:02,560 --> 00:20:05,320 Speaker 1: We're going to talk now with the John Alley. He's 291 00:20:05,600 --> 00:20:09,560 Speaker 1: a businessman who owns a number of properties both in 292 00:20:09,560 --> 00:20:13,600 Speaker 1: the Santa Monica area, MacArthur Park and other places as well, 293 00:20:14,000 --> 00:20:17,200 Speaker 1: and has been forced to become quite the activist because 294 00:20:17,240 --> 00:20:20,680 Speaker 1: of all the crazed homeless people that have taken over 295 00:20:20,760 --> 00:20:24,680 Speaker 1: Santa Monica and MacArthur Park. So we got two issues 296 00:20:24,760 --> 00:20:27,880 Speaker 1: for both of those neighborhoods to talk about with him. 297 00:20:28,480 --> 00:20:31,360 Speaker 1: John Welcome, How are you good? 298 00:20:31,440 --> 00:20:32,239 Speaker 3: John? Thank you? 299 00:20:32,640 --> 00:20:33,040 Speaker 2: Okay. 300 00:20:33,440 --> 00:20:38,080 Speaker 1: So Carolynterrosis with this new mayor, she's been the mayor 301 00:20:38,080 --> 00:20:38,560 Speaker 1: for like. 302 00:20:38,560 --> 00:20:42,800 Speaker 2: Three days, two days, she knew that these two. 303 00:20:44,200 --> 00:20:49,760 Speaker 1: Homeless housing properties were going to be created. She'd got 304 00:20:49,840 --> 00:20:55,080 Speaker 1: an advanced notice in an email, and she said okay, John. 305 00:20:55,119 --> 00:21:01,440 Speaker 3: Despite her saying otherwise, the records show that she knew 306 00:21:01,480 --> 00:21:04,240 Speaker 3: about it as far back as almost a year ago. 307 00:21:05,280 --> 00:21:10,840 Speaker 3: The city clerk provided twelve hundred pages of documents and 308 00:21:11,160 --> 00:21:15,560 Speaker 3: interestingly is resigning all of a sudden, but it embarrassed 309 00:21:15,560 --> 00:21:16,479 Speaker 3: the whole city council. 310 00:21:17,080 --> 00:21:19,160 Speaker 2: Wait, wait, hold on, hold on, who's you're resigning? 311 00:21:20,480 --> 00:21:23,840 Speaker 3: The city clerk who provides this information all of a 312 00:21:23,880 --> 00:21:30,720 Speaker 3: sudden is resigning. Just an interesting coincidence. But Perosis, who 313 00:21:30,760 --> 00:21:34,359 Speaker 3: became mayor Tuesday night, it's a rotating position, said that 314 00:21:34,400 --> 00:21:36,960 Speaker 3: the request was one of one hundreds received by the council, 315 00:21:37,040 --> 00:21:40,280 Speaker 3: and her involvement was only to bring the request to 316 00:21:40,320 --> 00:21:42,960 Speaker 3: the attention of the city. But way way back a 317 00:21:43,040 --> 00:21:48,880 Speaker 3: year ago, she indicated in an email. Responded quote, if 318 00:21:48,920 --> 00:21:50,840 Speaker 3: you could share a draft with us, as well as 319 00:21:50,880 --> 00:21:55,680 Speaker 3: more information about the projects, that would be appreciated, They continued, 320 00:21:55,720 --> 00:21:59,879 Speaker 3: corresponding she was copied. It was held back from the 321 00:22:00,040 --> 00:22:04,520 Speaker 3: public and these facilities, like you were mentioning, were for 322 00:22:04,760 --> 00:22:10,320 Speaker 3: severely mentally disturbed individuals. You didn't have to be sober, 323 00:22:11,119 --> 00:22:13,159 Speaker 3: you didn't have to stay more than a day, so 324 00:22:13,400 --> 00:22:16,879 Speaker 3: in and out. Not the sort of thing any community 325 00:22:16,960 --> 00:22:25,320 Speaker 3: needs anywhere in its city. And the client it was 326 00:22:25,440 --> 00:22:31,120 Speaker 3: very interesting. She reached out, and while she was reaching out, 327 00:22:31,119 --> 00:22:34,440 Speaker 3: the client was already gaining support from Saint Joseph's Center 328 00:22:34,800 --> 00:22:40,359 Speaker 3: to run the facility. The facility would have provided much 329 00:22:40,400 --> 00:22:43,919 Speaker 3: more rent to the developer than any market rate housing 330 00:22:43,960 --> 00:22:48,480 Speaker 3: would have the council. Sources close to the council admit 331 00:22:49,040 --> 00:22:51,240 Speaker 3: they didn't want to go public because they believed that 332 00:22:51,359 --> 00:22:56,520 Speaker 3: residents would oppose the project, and they supported it. Caroline's 333 00:22:56,520 --> 00:23:01,800 Speaker 3: the county employee. She works for Supervisor Hollyman, and she 334 00:23:01,880 --> 00:23:05,040 Speaker 3: knew of it way before August. We brought it. The 335 00:23:05,040 --> 00:23:08,840 Speaker 3: Santa Monica cousion brought it to the council's attention in 336 00:23:08,920 --> 00:23:15,760 Speaker 3: about October, but even the November before, maybe October in 337 00:23:15,840 --> 00:23:19,560 Speaker 3: twenty four they felt no obligation to warn the community. 338 00:23:20,440 --> 00:23:25,240 Speaker 3: And she continues to favor county policies, including natal handouts 339 00:23:25,240 --> 00:23:30,560 Speaker 3: in Santa Monica parks. Their loyalties lie elsewhere. There's a 340 00:23:30,640 --> 00:23:34,800 Speaker 3: move to get them to resign. Until they do, it's 341 00:23:34,840 --> 00:23:38,520 Speaker 3: just going to be a big, big distraction to the city. 342 00:23:39,480 --> 00:23:41,840 Speaker 3: In twenty twenty six, is it's the first time that 343 00:23:42,240 --> 00:23:46,119 Speaker 3: people have the ability to vote them out. There was 344 00:23:46,359 --> 00:23:52,920 Speaker 3: an action petition that gained overnight almost seven hundred signatures. 345 00:23:53,880 --> 00:23:57,680 Speaker 3: There was a request made of the Third Practices Commission, 346 00:23:58,880 --> 00:24:03,119 Speaker 3: and that's being looked at. It was the city clerk, 347 00:24:03,520 --> 00:24:07,479 Speaker 3: excuse me, the City of training was negligent and not 348 00:24:07,720 --> 00:24:11,720 Speaker 3: really giving a formal opinion and delaying her response on it. 349 00:24:12,560 --> 00:24:14,879 Speaker 1: But oh you know what, really they should all be 350 00:24:14,880 --> 00:24:18,920 Speaker 1: cleaned out of office, a whole lot of them, city clerk, 351 00:24:19,000 --> 00:24:23,040 Speaker 1: city attorney, the mayor. Here tsis this is all just 352 00:24:23,200 --> 00:24:24,520 Speaker 1: unimaginable garbage. 353 00:24:24,640 --> 00:24:26,880 Speaker 2: It really is. If somebody has. 354 00:24:26,840 --> 00:24:29,680 Speaker 1: An idea to bring severely mentally ill people into a 355 00:24:30,359 --> 00:24:35,160 Speaker 1: homeless housing structure. Well, first of all, they shouldn't bring 356 00:24:35,160 --> 00:24:38,600 Speaker 1: that idea. Secondly, there's got to be an open public 357 00:24:38,640 --> 00:24:41,639 Speaker 1: hearing on it. But to sneak it in through the 358 00:24:41,680 --> 00:24:45,040 Speaker 1: back door and then have terrosis. Lie, Oh, I didn't 359 00:24:45,040 --> 00:24:47,159 Speaker 1: know about this, she said, I want to refute that. 360 00:24:47,680 --> 00:24:49,840 Speaker 2: It is not true. I've known about this project. 361 00:24:50,240 --> 00:24:55,040 Speaker 1: Well, she didn't know about the project because it's in 362 00:24:55,080 --> 00:24:58,000 Speaker 1: a series of emails where she replied, when do you 363 00:24:58,040 --> 00:24:59,160 Speaker 1: need the letter of support? 364 00:25:02,840 --> 00:25:06,040 Speaker 3: Several residents brought that up in a city council meeting 365 00:25:06,119 --> 00:25:10,119 Speaker 3: and she took quote executive privilege during post comment to 366 00:25:10,880 --> 00:25:14,359 Speaker 3: refute it and say it wasn't true after she knew 367 00:25:14,400 --> 00:25:17,160 Speaker 3: And this is way after most of the council knew 368 00:25:17,160 --> 00:25:20,520 Speaker 3: about it. So she's got a serious problem on her hands, 369 00:25:20,600 --> 00:25:24,240 Speaker 3: especially since she's attorney. An attorney, the state bar will 370 00:25:24,240 --> 00:25:27,520 Speaker 3: be looking at this, and she has a decision like 371 00:25:27,640 --> 00:25:30,480 Speaker 3: many other mayors have done in the past, several have done, 372 00:25:30,720 --> 00:25:34,960 Speaker 3: and that's resigned and let the people move on with 373 00:25:35,040 --> 00:25:40,560 Speaker 3: their business. She's very pro developer. She's seeking all the 374 00:25:40,560 --> 00:25:44,280 Speaker 3: city sites for parking, the Civic Auditorium, wants to turn 375 00:25:44,320 --> 00:25:48,119 Speaker 3: them into housing. We don't have a housing crisis, we 376 00:25:48,160 --> 00:25:52,159 Speaker 3: have an affordability crisis, but we really have a crisis 377 00:25:52,320 --> 00:25:57,760 Speaker 3: of kaybax. And that's what's happening in Santa Monica. This 378 00:25:57,840 --> 00:26:04,720 Speaker 3: city council, except exception a very few are tied to developers, paybacks, 379 00:26:04,840 --> 00:26:06,240 Speaker 3: contributions to their campaigns. 380 00:26:06,320 --> 00:26:07,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, and they use this. 381 00:26:07,920 --> 00:26:09,879 Speaker 3: Position as a stepping stone to higher power. 382 00:26:10,040 --> 00:26:13,080 Speaker 1: Now, whenever you have a situation and we just did 383 00:26:13,119 --> 00:26:16,280 Speaker 1: a story about something similar in Chevy At Hills, when 384 00:26:16,280 --> 00:26:21,720 Speaker 1: you have a situation where you have developers or owners 385 00:26:21,760 --> 00:26:26,879 Speaker 1: sneaking in homeless shelters may be filled with severely mentally 386 00:26:26,920 --> 00:26:30,920 Speaker 1: ill people or alcoholics, drug addicts. You have them sneaking 387 00:26:30,920 --> 00:26:34,359 Speaker 1: it in and all the public officials are looking the 388 00:26:34,400 --> 00:26:37,360 Speaker 1: other way and lying about it. There's gotta be bribes 389 00:26:37,400 --> 00:26:39,800 Speaker 1: going on. There's gotta be money going back and forth. 390 00:26:39,880 --> 00:26:43,960 Speaker 1: Everybody's getting the kui. If you were the mayor council member, 391 00:26:43,960 --> 00:26:46,040 Speaker 1: why wouldn't you say, hold on, we're gonna have a 392 00:26:46,040 --> 00:26:48,600 Speaker 1: hearing about this, or how about no, let's not even 393 00:26:48,640 --> 00:26:50,040 Speaker 1: waste our time with the hearing. 394 00:26:52,760 --> 00:26:53,120 Speaker 2: Go ahead. 395 00:26:53,160 --> 00:26:57,040 Speaker 3: It's very interesting because the vice mayor is in serious 396 00:26:57,040 --> 00:26:59,960 Speaker 3: trouble as well, and he would become mayor if she resigned. 397 00:27:00,840 --> 00:27:06,240 Speaker 3: And that's an individual named Jesse Zwick, who on August 398 00:27:06,240 --> 00:27:11,680 Speaker 3: twelfth listened to the CEO of Housing Action Coalition, san 399 00:27:11,720 --> 00:27:15,960 Speaker 3: Francisco based nonprofit who spoke before the Santa Moncra City 400 00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:21,600 Speaker 3: Council advocating for building more homes at all levels of affordability. 401 00:27:22,240 --> 00:27:26,240 Speaker 3: Three days later, guess what, the CEO signed a letter 402 00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:29,679 Speaker 3: to Zwick offering him a full time position and it's 403 00:27:30,640 --> 00:27:32,560 Speaker 3: as a director one hundred and twenty five thousand dollars 404 00:27:32,600 --> 00:27:37,600 Speaker 3: a year, and he become the group's second highest paid employee. 405 00:27:37,760 --> 00:27:42,280 Speaker 3: And this guy has a background that's not Christine. He 406 00:27:42,840 --> 00:27:48,520 Speaker 3: was a protege of Mike Bonnen, who personally was did 407 00:27:48,520 --> 00:27:54,119 Speaker 3: not run and we have Tracy Park, but he was, 408 00:27:54,359 --> 00:27:57,320 Speaker 3: and he had to resign even from that obligation because 409 00:27:57,440 --> 00:28:01,240 Speaker 3: he docksed all of the people with their addresses that 410 00:28:01,400 --> 00:28:05,479 Speaker 3: supported Mike Bondon's recall. And then all of a sudden 411 00:28:05,560 --> 00:28:07,840 Speaker 3: he turned up and ran for Santa Monica City Council. 412 00:28:08,040 --> 00:28:11,840 Speaker 3: Very interestingly, most of his contributions came from back east. 413 00:28:12,119 --> 00:28:15,680 Speaker 3: They were non Santa Monica residents, all right, Very telling. 414 00:28:15,760 --> 00:28:17,880 Speaker 1: Hold on the line. We'll talk about the MacArthur Park 415 00:28:17,920 --> 00:28:21,080 Speaker 1: situation next. Next we got John Alley, the LA Businessman. 416 00:28:22,280 --> 00:28:26,639 Speaker 4: You're listening to John Cobel on demand from KFI am 417 00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:27,200 Speaker 4: six forty. 418 00:28:28,520 --> 00:28:31,040 Speaker 1: John Alley, the LA Businessman is going to come back 419 00:28:31,080 --> 00:28:34,959 Speaker 1: tomorrow to talk at length about the situation at Markcarthur 420 00:28:35,040 --> 00:28:41,760 Speaker 1: Park with Karen Bass giving away. Now, what did she do? 421 00:28:41,840 --> 00:28:45,680 Speaker 1: She signed a contract. The city signed a contract with 422 00:28:45,800 --> 00:28:49,880 Speaker 1: a company called the Sidewalk Project that started in July 423 00:28:50,960 --> 00:28:56,440 Speaker 1: to provide syringe services. And also they say sex workers 424 00:28:56,520 --> 00:28:59,880 Speaker 1: are the most marginalized people in the world and criminalization 425 00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:02,400 Speaker 1: and leaves them vulnerable to predators. So this is a 426 00:29:02,440 --> 00:29:07,880 Speaker 1: company who's all in favor of drug addicts and prostitutes. 427 00:29:09,280 --> 00:29:10,560 Speaker 2: Sex work is work. 428 00:29:11,520 --> 00:29:16,160 Speaker 1: And she had said clearly in the past that she 429 00:29:16,280 --> 00:29:25,400 Speaker 1: is against having free needles, free syringes being and free 430 00:29:25,760 --> 00:29:30,920 Speaker 1: pipes being given out at MacArthur Park. And then John 431 00:29:30,960 --> 00:29:33,800 Speaker 1: ally found out that there's actually a contract to do 432 00:29:33,880 --> 00:29:39,600 Speaker 1: specifically that, I mean, this stuff is crazy. The sidewalk 433 00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:45,240 Speaker 1: project that they have, they have some kind of meetup 434 00:29:45,280 --> 00:29:49,440 Speaker 1: center in the park for a thousand women and gender 435 00:29:49,560 --> 00:29:55,920 Speaker 1: expansive participants and we're spending tax dollars on this. It's 436 00:29:56,000 --> 00:29:59,960 Speaker 1: just you can't nobody could make this up because nobody would. 437 00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:04,040 Speaker 1: They're the thought of this in the past. Yeah, it's 438 00:30:04,080 --> 00:30:10,360 Speaker 1: with Stacy d It's called Sidewalk Project. And when John 439 00:30:10,400 --> 00:30:14,240 Speaker 1: Alley spoke to Bass, she said she opposed needle and 440 00:30:14,320 --> 00:30:18,760 Speaker 1: meth pipe distributions in parks and said to John that 441 00:30:18,920 --> 00:30:24,200 Speaker 1: he could quote her on that. And then it turns 442 00:30:24,200 --> 00:30:27,200 Speaker 1: out that she signed a contract to do exactly that, 443 00:30:27,840 --> 00:30:35,959 Speaker 1: provide syringes and allow this group to have gender expansive 444 00:30:36,280 --> 00:30:40,480 Speaker 1: what sex workers gathering together in MacArthur Park. That's a 445 00:30:40,480 --> 00:30:41,400 Speaker 1: good environment for the. 446 00:30:41,360 --> 00:30:45,000 Speaker 2: Kids, huh. Anyway, it's obviously very detailed. 447 00:30:45,920 --> 00:30:48,720 Speaker 1: We're just short on time, and John Ally's going to 448 00:30:48,760 --> 00:30:50,320 Speaker 1: come back tomorrow to talk about it. 449 00:30:50,360 --> 00:30:50,680 Speaker 2: All right. 450 00:30:51,280 --> 00:30:54,600 Speaker 1: I have Roger Bailey coming up next. There's so much 451 00:30:54,640 --> 00:30:57,200 Speaker 1: craziness going on, there's just no room for it all. 452 00:30:58,200 --> 00:31:02,760 Speaker 1: Roger's the attorney representing the Palisades fire victims. He and 453 00:31:02,880 --> 00:31:06,280 Speaker 1: other attorneys and there's thousands of victims. Obviously. Well, they 454 00:31:06,360 --> 00:31:15,880 Speaker 1: got texts between California State park representatives and in the 455 00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:23,000 Speaker 1: texts were maps about avoidance areas adjacent to the Palisades 456 00:31:23,240 --> 00:31:25,320 Speaker 1: where both fires started. 457 00:31:26,480 --> 00:31:28,840 Speaker 2: This is where the State Park Reps came. 458 00:31:28,720 --> 00:31:31,400 Speaker 1: Down and told the LA Fire Department to get out 459 00:31:32,320 --> 00:31:34,960 Speaker 1: that they can't use bulldozers to build a fire line 460 00:31:35,000 --> 00:31:38,400 Speaker 1: after the first fire, and then it rekindled and became 461 00:31:38,440 --> 00:31:45,000 Speaker 1: the Palisades Fire Area avoidance maps. The fires ignited inside 462 00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:48,800 Speaker 1: the avoidance area because it was still hot ground, hot 463 00:31:48,840 --> 00:31:53,120 Speaker 1: tree stumps, hot rocks, still smoldering, still smoke, and they 464 00:31:53,160 --> 00:31:54,440 Speaker 1: couldn't use the bulldozer. 465 00:31:54,440 --> 00:31:55,440 Speaker 2: You know why, to. 466 00:31:55,520 --> 00:32:01,320 Speaker 1: Protect plants, Yes, like the milkvetch plant. Everything you've heard 467 00:32:01,560 --> 00:32:06,760 Speaker 1: is true. It's that bad, it's that that's it. It's insane. 468 00:32:07,040 --> 00:32:10,560 Speaker 1: Newsom's California Parks Department. This is their policy. We'll talk 469 00:32:10,600 --> 00:32:13,560 Speaker 1: with Roger Bailey coming up next. Hey, you've been listening 470 00:32:13,560 --> 00:32:16,080 Speaker 1: to the John Cobalt Show podcast. 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