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Speaker 1: organization that entire time, and so I think that stands out.

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Speaker 1: They also tend to stick by their guys. You know,

429
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Speaker 1: he mentioned getting strapped with maybe deals into the third year.

430
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Speaker 1: They don't cut guys early, they're not trading players away.

431
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Speaker 1: They try to build with their own guys, and you

432
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Speaker 1: can see that in the moves they make. Everyone says

433
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Speaker 1: that the cults actually do it. In terms of how

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Speaker 1: you attract free agents, you know, to Indy, I think

435
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Speaker 1: Frank Reich is a huge piece of that. I think

436
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Speaker 1: players love them all playing for him, and I think

437
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Speaker 1: Ballard as well. I mean, he is one of the

438
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Speaker 1: more open general managers in the NFL, and you get

439
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Speaker 1: the vibe that he's opened with his players as well,

440
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Speaker 1: and there's some gems that are not really talking to

441
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Speaker 1: their guys and it's not that connection. I think it's

442
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Speaker 1: an attractive place. But of course, you know, depending on

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Speaker 1: the position. Obviously, if you're an offensive weapon, and maybe

444
00:22:00,280 --> 00:22:02,680
Speaker 1: it's a bit of a question mark at this point. Defensively,

445
00:22:02,760 --> 00:22:05,920
Speaker 1: with the addition of Gus Bradley inherits a strong defensive

446
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Speaker 1: foundation from Matt Eberflus. With what we know of Gus

447
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Speaker 1: Bradley and how he's developed defenses, what might make this

448
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Speaker 1: appealing at what type of defensive positions that you have

449
00:22:16,600 --> 00:22:18,919
Speaker 1: free agencies? Sure? Yeah, so we saw with Gus Bradley

450
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Speaker 1: in Las Vegas. He brings that cover three system, that

451
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Speaker 1: infamous Seattle Cover three system, and it's it's great for cornerbacks.

452
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Speaker 1: It is. You know, we saw Casey Hayward with a

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Speaker 1: bounce back year last year in Las Vegas. I'm not

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Speaker 1: gonna say it's easy on the corners, but if you're

455
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Speaker 1: a good zone corner that can you know, manage the

456
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Speaker 1: field and kind of play in space, it's great and

457
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Speaker 1: it's vitalized a lot of careers and I think that's

458
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Speaker 1: the attractive piece there. So for sticking to that topic,

459
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Speaker 1: one of the things you have in here that I

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Speaker 1: mentioned is scheme fit. So when you're thinking about cornerbacks

461
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Speaker 1: who might be available in free agency, and you got

462
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Speaker 1: to think about scheme fit. It's not just let's go

463
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Speaker 1: out and get the best corner, because if you go

464
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Speaker 1: get a guy who plays mostly man. Yeah, there's some

465
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Speaker 1: man match stuff that Gus Bradley does, but you're you're

466
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Speaker 1: thinking more a zone corner. Throw a couple names out

467
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Speaker 1: there for us Sonny, Yeah, I think Stephen Nelson in

468
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Speaker 1: Philadelphia was with Pittsburgh before, had a good gear on

469
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Speaker 1: a one year flyer, and I think is a good

470
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Speaker 1: fitting zone. Also, Russeul Douglas, you know, was drafted to

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Speaker 1: be a man cover Corner obviously did not go great

472
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Speaker 1: to start his career. Maybe can't get resigned at Green

473
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Speaker 1: Bay because of all the obligations they have there. They

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Speaker 1: were a heavy zone scheme last year and he had

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Speaker 1: kind of a breakout season. So those are two names

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Speaker 1: I'd probably keep an eye with. Rasul Douglas. By the way,

477
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Speaker 1: he was the one who was signed off the Cardinals

478
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Speaker 1: practice squad then ended that game in Arizona with an

479
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Speaker 1: interception of Kyler Murray. So just a little little note

480
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Speaker 1: on him there. Well, you're mentioning Kyler Murray. There's of

481
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Speaker 1: course a lot of conversations surrounding him in his future

482
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Speaker 1: with Arizona. This current quarterback climate, there are a lot

483
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Speaker 1: of teams that are quarterback needy in certain situations. When

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Speaker 1: you think about the retirement of guys like Ben Roethlisberger,

485
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Speaker 1: Tom Brady, how do you explain the landscape that there

486
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Speaker 1: is within the competition for quarterbacks and the market that

487
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Speaker 1: there is for free agency quarterbacks, how slim that might be,

488
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Speaker 1: and the likelihood of making any major trades would it

489
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Speaker 1: would command to get some of the guys who are

490
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Speaker 1: those top tier quarterbacks that a lot of people are

491
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Speaker 1: probably gonna try to target. Yeah, I think that's how

492
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Speaker 1: the landscape has changed that at this point, if Aaron

493
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Speaker 1: Rodgers or Russell Wilson gets moved, I'd be pretty surprised.

494
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Speaker 1: I think now you're looking at probably Jimmy Garoppolo as

495
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Speaker 1: the best quarterback that could realistically get moved, And you

496
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Speaker 1: look at free agency, it's not a great class either. Generally,

497
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Speaker 1: there's not great classes in quarterback free agency. You wouldn't

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Speaker 1: be a free agent if you were a great quarterback.

499
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Speaker 1: But you know, I think there is belief league wide

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Speaker 1: that Mitchell Trubisky, you know, had these issues in Chicago,

501
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Speaker 1: but then the issues persisted when he was no longer there.

502
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Speaker 1: So it seems to be the belief that maybe another

503
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Speaker 1: team could get their hands on him and turn him around.

504
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Speaker 1: But yeah, it's tough to add a quarterback again, as

505
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Speaker 1: the Colts know very well, to add a quarterback through

506
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Speaker 1: those means. But you know, you gotta make the phone

507
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Speaker 1: calls and and see if you can get a price

508
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Speaker 1: tag on a guy. But yeah, the Russell Wilson, Aaron

509
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Speaker 1: Rodgers guys, there's almost maybe not a price tag that's

510
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Speaker 1: possible to get them. You can only trade picks three

511
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Speaker 1: years into the future, and those guys might be worth

512
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Speaker 1: you know, five first round picks. Yeah. With the quarterback

513
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Speaker 1: class twenty two, a lot of people were saying this

514
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Speaker 1: is a weaker quarterback class altogether. With this week at

515
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Speaker 1: the NFL combine of the quarterback class, who has the

516
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Speaker 1: most to gain in not only getting out on the

517
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Speaker 1: field and performing in all of the different disciplines, but

518
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Speaker 1: also sitting down with those NFL head coaches having those meetings.

519
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Speaker 1: Who are those quarterbacks that you think could make the

520
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Speaker 1: biggest leap. Perhaps I think it's Malik Willis. You know,

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Speaker 1: I was down in Mobile at the Senior Bowl and

522
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Speaker 1: just he has some physical tools. The rest of this

523
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Speaker 1: class just does not have, you know, a raw player,

524
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Speaker 1: but also a guy. There's been reports that the teams

525
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Speaker 1: were surprised about how good he was on the white

526
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Speaker 1: board and talking through football, and they shouldn't be surprised.

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Speaker 1: We've heard that he is very cerebral, knows exactly what

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Speaker 1: he's doing on the field. But I think he's gaining

529
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Speaker 1: that steam and kind of building that reputation now as

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Speaker 1: a guy that probably want me to sit for a

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Speaker 1: little bit and kind of bring along slowly, but has

532
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Speaker 1: the potential to be a franchise quarterback. How important our

533
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Speaker 1: opportunities like this Senior Bowl and the combine in particular

534
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Speaker 1: for guys who come out of smaller schools where it

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Speaker 1: seems like the biggest question on those guys like that

536
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Speaker 1: Malik Willis is can he go with those guys who

537
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Speaker 1: are coming out of the Power five as opposed to

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Speaker 1: the guys you're seeing who were coming out of the

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Speaker 1: large schools who were going against that top tier talent.

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Speaker 1: It's as we always hear from our scouts, like things

541
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Speaker 1: like the Senior Boat with combined Apples to apples comparison,

542
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Speaker 1: where you're able to see him throw alongside those other

543
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Speaker 1: guys coming out of the more major programs. Yeah, I

544
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Speaker 1: think it works both ways, where you know, obviously the

545
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Speaker 1: competition is a step up, and I think the big

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Speaker 1: thing that Willis proved in Mobile was that wasn't an issue,

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Speaker 1: you know, you know, playing against better defenders, guys that

548
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Speaker 1: are going to get drafted, and was still making throws.

549
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Speaker 1: But also at the same time, his offensive line and

550
00:26:31,240 --> 00:26:34,080
Speaker 1: liberty did him no justice and was not helpful. And

551
00:26:34,160 --> 00:26:37,359
Speaker 1: so him having better more time and more room to operate,

552
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Speaker 1: he really elevated his game and I think showed he

553
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Speaker 1: belongs with all those guys. I want to talk about

554
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Speaker 1: some guys who might protect the quarterback because you know,

555
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Speaker 1: you're looking at what the culture are going to try

556
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Speaker 1: to accomplish in free agency. They need to find a

557
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Speaker 1: solution of left tackle. With Eric Fisher becoming a free agent,

558
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Speaker 1: Mark Lewinsky at right guard, where do you see those

559
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Speaker 1: two guys specifically fit in the larger free agent landscape?

560
00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:02,280
Speaker 1: How much competition If the Colts by the time this

561
00:27:02,359 --> 00:27:04,600
Speaker 1: episode comes out, they have not you know, made a

562
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Speaker 1: move to resign them. If they do hit the open market,

563
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Speaker 1: where do you see those guys fitting in again in

564
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Speaker 1: the larger free agent landscape. So Fisher is interesting because

565
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Speaker 1: Toronto Armstead with the New Orleans Saints. You know, before

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Speaker 1: Sean Payton retired, I would have told you there's no

567
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Speaker 1: chance he's going anywhere. Now maybe the calculus changes. I mean,

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Speaker 1: he's a potential twenty million per year guy at left tackle,

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Speaker 1: and are you making that commitment with the highest paid

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Speaker 1: right tackle in football and maybe not a quarterback on

571
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Speaker 1: the roster. So if he hits free agency, then that,

572
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Speaker 1: you know, maybe bumps Fisher down a peg, if not,

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Speaker 1: Fisher is the premiere left tackle on the market. I

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Speaker 1: do think Indianapolis though, with that one year flyer for

575
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Speaker 1: him coming off the Achilles I think the plan was

576
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Speaker 1: to bring him back, and I think they're going to

577
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Speaker 1: get something done. One thing we learned the Combine from

578
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Speaker 1: Cult general manager Chris Ballard was that t Y Hilton

579
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Speaker 1: does want to continue playing football from the last conversation

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Speaker 1: that they had, and that he has a lot of

581
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Speaker 1: belief that Ty has great football still ahead of him.

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Speaker 1: And part of that not only the physical traits a

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Speaker 1: TI has, but the mentality of t Y Hilton. When

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Speaker 1: Ty was a agent last offseason, Baltimore was one of

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Speaker 1: those aggressively pursuing him. Where do you see the demand

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Speaker 1: being potentially for a t Y Hilton, a veteran receiver

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Speaker 1: who's coming off of that neck injury that limited his

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty one season. I think at this point he's

589
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Speaker 1: playing on consecutive one year deal, so you know, I

590
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Speaker 1: don't think there's a multi year deal in his future,

591
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Speaker 1: which is probably what he's looking for as well. I

592
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Speaker 1: don't think the one year ten or one year eight

593
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Speaker 1: up to ten is on the market. Again, we saw

594
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Speaker 1: it with Larry Fitzgerald and Arizona as time went on

595
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Speaker 1: that the one year Flyers got a little bit smaller.

596
00:28:28,200 --> 00:28:30,680
Speaker 1: I think that's probably a similar situation. But I also

597
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Speaker 1: thought Chris Ballard really stamped the table for how much

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Speaker 1: he believes in Paris Campbell and a lot of the

599
00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:36,880
Speaker 1: guys they have in house. But I do think they'll

600
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Speaker 1: try to get something done with Hilton as well. How

601
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Speaker 1: about tight end if we're thinking about playmakers too, where

602
00:28:40,760 --> 00:28:42,680
Speaker 1: you know, we don't know what Jack Doyle status will be,

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Speaker 1: whether he will retire or not. Well, like Cox set

604
00:28:45,440 --> 00:28:48,840
Speaker 1: to hit free agency, Solacolts theoretically could have some openings there,

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Speaker 1: especially for that inline blocking tight end. What's this class

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00:28:52,040 --> 00:28:54,600
Speaker 1: like at tight end in terms of the depth and

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00:28:54,680 --> 00:28:57,400
Speaker 1: the star talent that could become available. Yeah, I think

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Speaker 1: it is arguably the greatest free agent class that we've

609
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Speaker 1: ever seen. And part of that is because obviously the

610
00:29:02,240 --> 00:29:04,560
Speaker 1: position is coming along and it is now getting you know,

611
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Speaker 1: addressed more and drafted higher and all those things. As

612
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Speaker 1: far as blocking tight ends. The Carolina Panthers deal with

613
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Speaker 1: Ian Thomas three years, sixteen point ninety five million dollars

614
00:29:13,760 --> 00:29:15,880
Speaker 1: changes the catalyst for everyone. I mean, it raises the

615
00:29:15,920 --> 00:29:19,160
Speaker 1: floor quite high, and I think now everyone that saw

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Speaker 1: that deal Moayley Cox included. Obviously not as much of

617
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Speaker 1: an inline guy. I'm more a receiver, but those tight

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Speaker 1: ends are gonna get paid this offseason. A year ago,

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Speaker 1: Deniko Autry and Justin Houston were a couple of guys

620
00:29:31,040 --> 00:29:33,760
Speaker 1: who explored free agency and ultimately ended up leaving the

621
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Speaker 1: Indianapolis Colts, Daniko going to Tennessee and then Justin Houston

622
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Speaker 1: finding a new role in Baltimore. It seemed like at

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Speaker 1: the end of the off season that Chris Ballard put

624
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Speaker 1: a lot of emphasis on that edge position and the

625
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Speaker 1: importance of having not only a veteran presence but also depth.

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Speaker 1: Last year they drafted Quittypay and Dioed dang Bo. If

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Speaker 1: the Colts are pursuing the free agent options all along

628
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Speaker 1: the defensive line, particularly at edge rusher, what type of

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Speaker 1: market will this be if that is an area that

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Speaker 1: Chris Ballard does decide to prioritize and make a move for. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: so there's a decent group. They're more older guys, though,

632
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Speaker 1: I mean, it sounds like von Miller probably be back

633
00:30:11,160 --> 00:30:13,000
Speaker 1: with the Rams. But you know, Chandler Jones I think

634
00:30:13,120 --> 00:30:14,880
Speaker 1: is going to hit the market and maybe not return

635
00:30:14,920 --> 00:30:17,400
Speaker 1: to Arizona. And then you look at guys like Emmanuel

636
00:30:17,440 --> 00:30:19,760
Speaker 1: Ogba as a potential guy to reach the market in Miami.

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00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:22,320
Speaker 1: There's some names there. But I will say that is

638
00:30:22,360 --> 00:30:25,320
Speaker 1: a position where you're overpaying in free agency every single time,

639
00:30:25,600 --> 00:30:28,080
Speaker 1: and now some deals work out, but it's it's a tricky,

640
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Speaker 1: you know, situation navigated address. When you think about free

641
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Speaker 1: agency just in general, there's this mentality out there of like, well,

642
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Speaker 1: these guys are hitting the market for a reason the

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Speaker 1: teams don't want them back. But that's not always the case.

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Speaker 1: Some teams do have cap issues that they need to address.

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Speaker 1: You mentioned the New Orleans Saints with toront arm Instead

646
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Speaker 1: of course they would love to have him back, can

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Speaker 1: they afford to bring him back within the constraints of

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Speaker 1: their caps? Things like that. Are there certain guys out

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Speaker 1: there who are hitting the market not because the team

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Speaker 1: that they played for, you know, the last year or

651
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Speaker 1: whatever it's been, doesn't want them back, but because the

652
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Speaker 1: team they played for can't get them back. I would

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Speaker 1: say the thing that maybe folks overlook as well is

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Speaker 1: that even if you can afford it. Teams don't want

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Speaker 1: to break their precedent to where they're paying so much

656
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Speaker 1: for a guy and the next guy's coming up are

657
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Speaker 1: then looking at those numbers and trying to replicate that.

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Speaker 1: So even if they can afford it, can they afford

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Speaker 1: to as set the precedent where everyone's looking for more

660
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Speaker 1: money and things like that. So there's not really any

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Speaker 1: guy that I think you know are going to leave

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Speaker 1: strictly because the team can't afford to bring them back.

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Speaker 1: I think Green Base probably the only team that might

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Speaker 1: be in that situation. What about like in terms of

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Speaker 1: coaching changes, where you go from one offensive staff to

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Speaker 1: another and now it's a different scheme. You go from

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Speaker 1: one defensive staff to another, Now it's a different scheme.

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Speaker 1: Are there certain guys who could be good scheme fits

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Speaker 1: maybe here in Indianapolis, who were good scheme fits where

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Speaker 1: they were and now all of a sudden maybe are not.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I think us Bradley's defense is different than

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Speaker 1: Eberflus and and Bradley loves to bring his guys back

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Speaker 1: in the fold. I mentioned Casey Heyward. He had Darius

674
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Speaker 1: Filon in Las Vegas last year as well, And I

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Speaker 1: think he will reach out to those guys and bring

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Speaker 1: some of his people along. I think also de rated

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Speaker 1: as well as general managers want to get their guys

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Speaker 1: in the building, and they're not you know, tethered two

679
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Speaker 1: former players that were drafted or signed by the prior

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Speaker 1: general manager. You know, maybe to a fault where they

681
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Speaker 1: want to get all their guys in the building, but

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Speaker 1: I do I think they want to put their imprint

683
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Speaker 1: on the roster pretty much right away. Well, the portion

684
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Speaker 1: that the fans get to see is are the things

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Speaker 1: like media availability and they'll get to see you know,

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Speaker 1: the forty and you know, the bench press and all

687
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Speaker 1: of the activity that we have going on. So much

688
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Speaker 1: of the combine is about the conversations that happen away

689
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Speaker 1: from Lucasoil Stadium and away from the convention center. The

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Speaker 1: newly year doesn't begin until March sixteenth, how many of

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Speaker 1: these conversations are happening this week between you have you know,

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Speaker 1: gms and head coaches and agents that are all here

693
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Speaker 1: and discussing those things to some degree, getting a gauge

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Speaker 1: on the interest that there is even prior to things

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Speaker 1: being official. Yeah, So obviously by the rule book, you

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Speaker 1: can only negotiate with your current pending free agents. But yes,

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Speaker 1: I mean some of those conversations are happening again. Nothing

698
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Speaker 1: nothing where you're you know, talking about detail or anything

699
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Speaker 1: like that, but definitely trying to gauge the market, get

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Speaker 1: an understanding of where other teams view certain players, and

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Speaker 1: as you mentioned too, how the guy fits. Is he

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Speaker 1: going to leave the team he's on because he's no

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Speaker 1: longer a fit? You know? One example I think is

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Speaker 1: Mike Kisiki in Miami. I think they would love to

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Speaker 1: have him back, but they're going to that wide zone

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Speaker 1: rushing attack. He's not a blocker, and so, you know,

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Speaker 1: like things like that, you try to gauge, not the

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Speaker 1: numbers and dollars and cents, but just maybe just who's

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Speaker 1: actually going to be available. The last thing I want

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Speaker 1: to ask you about, Brad is when when you were

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Speaker 1: over the cap, you did a lot of work on

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Speaker 1: comp picks. Um, you were always my go to guy

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Speaker 1: in Chicago to be like, can you explain this to me?

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Speaker 1: Like how are the you know, how is this going

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Speaker 1: to work out? I believe the cults are slated to

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Speaker 1: get a couple of comp picks this year for free

717
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Speaker 1: agents leaving last year Deniko auc and Jrycoby Brissette. I

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Speaker 1: believe how when when you look around the scope of

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Speaker 1: the league, certain teams, it seems like do value that

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Speaker 1: letting a free agent go and then recouping that compic.

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Speaker 1: New England is the most famous example of that. I

722
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Speaker 1: think Baltimore does it quite a bit. When you approach

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Speaker 1: free agency that way, how does that affect the business

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Speaker 1: that you might be able to do, whether it's not

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Speaker 1: maybe not in the first wave of free agency, but

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Speaker 1: waiting until that may cut offline like that focus on

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Speaker 1: comp pics for certain teams, how does that affect their approach? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: so a perfect example is Eric Fisher because also you

729
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Speaker 1: have to be a truly unrestricted free agent to count

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Speaker 1: in the compensatory pick formula. If you were cut by

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Speaker 1: your team, you don't count. So those guys have an

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Speaker 1: added value where you bring them in, it doesn't affect

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Speaker 1: your formula. But yes, the teams are very cognizant of that.

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Speaker 1: The May deadline is actually a new deadline from the

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Speaker 1: new CBA. It used to be in July and players said, look,

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Speaker 1: you know there's this dead market and teams are waiting

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Speaker 1: to sign us and they want to sign us, but

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Speaker 1: they're making us wait just because they don't want to

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Speaker 1: impact their compics. Teams are very cognizive at the cults

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Speaker 1: are very very cognizantive the compick situation. We had to

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Speaker 1: wait to see a combine back here two years long

742
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Speaker 1: to see the indian to see Indianapolis again host the

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Speaker 1: combine for you. Best part about just getting back to

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Speaker 1: this week, being on site, getting to have these conversations,

745
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Speaker 1: but also looking at guys firsthand, having all of the

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Speaker 1: conversations and evaluations that you are. Yeah, you know, it's funny.

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Speaker 1: You hear a lot of the the buzzwords and the

748
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Speaker 1: idioms about like being in person, just the different the

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Speaker 1: way you can really get to know a person and

750
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Speaker 1: get to know people in person, but it's real. I mean,

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Speaker 1: just seeing these guys up close, asking them questions, hearing

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Speaker 1: how they respond to things and how they're thinking, they're thinking,

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Speaker 1: their thought process. Excuse me, it's different, and it's it's

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Speaker 1: important to really get to know the person. Like you

755
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Speaker 1: mentioned that the interviews and stuff like that might be

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Speaker 1: more important than the testing. Brad Spielberger from Pro Football

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Speaker 1: Focus Follow him on Twitter at PFF underscore, Brad read

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Speaker 1: him on Pro Football Focus again, this guide to twenty

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Speaker 1: twenty two free agency is going to be. It's going

760
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Speaker 1: to be how I'm going to get through it, frankly,

761
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Speaker 1: and that's how you should get through it too, if

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Speaker 1: you're listening to this. So Brad, thanks so much for

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Speaker 1: joining us. Thank you, all right, thanks again to Brad

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Speaker 1: Spielberger from Pro Football Focus for the knowledge about NFL

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Speaker 1: free agency. Now to our interview with that Laura Overton

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Speaker 1: and I did with ESPN's Laura Rutledge. All Right, very

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Speaker 1: happy to be joined here on the Cult Official Podcast

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Speaker 1: by Laura rut Ledge. You know her as the host

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Speaker 1: of NFL Live on ESPN. You can follow her on

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Speaker 1: Twitter at Laura Rutledge. Thankfully, the bench press is stopped

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Speaker 1: as we were recording this here at the NFL Combine.

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Speaker 1: That's because Laura just did her twenty seven reps and

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Speaker 1: then came over here to sit down. Wow, you know

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Speaker 1: twenty seven. I don't know that I've done twenty seven

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Speaker 1: reps of anything, to be totally honest. It's that is

776
00:36:19,920 --> 00:36:22,200
Speaker 1: a whole scene over there. I didn't know that was

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Speaker 1: going on until I came over here and I'd like

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Speaker 1: to thank you guys for letting me witness it because

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00:36:25,920 --> 00:36:27,799
Speaker 1: it's wild and crazy. The best has been the people

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Speaker 1: who've dropped out, you know, like I've been advised to

781
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Speaker 1: not do this. The best was yesterday a guy dropped

782
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Speaker 1: out because he said he had an ankle injury. It's

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00:36:34,760 --> 00:36:37,560
Speaker 1: like me, that's like me dropping out of running because

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Speaker 1: I like stubbed my pinkie. I'm laying down doing a

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Speaker 1: bench press, but I've hurt my ankles, so I'm not

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Speaker 1: gonna be able to do it. Yeah. I like that reasoning.

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Speaker 1: I'd be like, you know what, I'm going to drop

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Speaker 1: out because I ate a really large lunch and I

789
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Speaker 1: don't think this is really good for me to be

790
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Speaker 1: just once, I want someone to be honest and be like, look,

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Speaker 1: I'm not gonna do the bench press because guys, I

792
00:36:54,719 --> 00:36:57,480
Speaker 1: was at high velocity until like two o'clock last night, Like,

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Speaker 1: come on, don't ask me to do this. Yeah. Well,

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Speaker 1: it is International Women's Day and Laura is our featured

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Speaker 1: guest in celebration of that. In your journey to host

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Speaker 1: of NFL Live, you started in college football, graduated from

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Speaker 1: University of Florida. That's where you cut your teething covering

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00:37:15,600 --> 00:37:18,960
Speaker 1: the Gators working on radio and then through SEC network,

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Speaker 1: working on the sidelines in college football. When the opportunity

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Speaker 1: arose to transition from college football to the NFL, which

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00:37:25,080 --> 00:37:27,680
Speaker 1: is a natural path because you did so much of

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Speaker 1: the SEC already, so a lot of those a lot

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Speaker 1: of those guys carry over in se NFL. What was

804
00:37:33,080 --> 00:37:35,919
Speaker 1: it about the NFL those nuances of the NFL where

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00:37:36,040 --> 00:37:38,319
Speaker 1: you felt like, Okay, the game is the same, It's

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Speaker 1: all football. But if I'm going to host this show

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Speaker 1: in order to prepare myself to be at this table

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Speaker 1: with these very strong personalities, this is what I need

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Speaker 1: to develop, and this is how I need to grow

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Speaker 1: and those things that I needed to learn and transition into. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you know, you bring up a lot of greed points

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Speaker 1: about some of the similarities and some of the natural

813
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Speaker 1: transition steps that you would take from going from the

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Speaker 1: college game to the NFL game. And even so I

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Speaker 1: walked into hosting NFL Live, and of course it was

816
00:38:03,040 --> 00:38:05,560
Speaker 1: in the middle of a pandemic. We're trying to revamp

817
00:38:05,640 --> 00:38:08,279
Speaker 1: the show, and all of a sudden we find out, well,

818
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Speaker 1: you're not going to be together. Everyone's going to be remote.

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Speaker 1: Of course, we've been very thankful this past season to

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Speaker 1: be together again and really get the thing rolling. But

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Speaker 1: at that point I thought, wow, you know, just felt

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Speaker 1: like one thing after another was almost stacked against what

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Speaker 1: we were trying to do, and yet the opportunity was incredible,

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Speaker 1: And I think I think what ended up working out

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Speaker 1: the best for me is something that I've always sort

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Speaker 1: of struggled with at times, is trusting myself and saying, wow,

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Speaker 1: you know, just rely on your skill set, rely on

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Speaker 1: your knowledge, rely on what's got you to this point,

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Speaker 1: instead of the self doubt that creeps in where you say,

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Speaker 1: maybe I don't know enough for maybe I don't belong

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Speaker 1: in this space, and it we're also guilty of that,

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Speaker 1: no matter what the role is, no matter where we

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Speaker 1: are in this business. And so I think for me

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Speaker 1: that's been that's been something that's allowed for a lot

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Speaker 1: of success and just being really thankful for the people

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Speaker 1: around me because they are incredible and I would be

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Speaker 1: nothing without them. A number of those people around you.

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Speaker 1: You have people like Mina Kimes and Dan Orlovsky and

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Speaker 1: Ryan Clark, and as analysts, we know a lot of

840
00:39:10,200 --> 00:39:13,480
Speaker 1: their preparation for a show comes from watching film and

841
00:39:13,600 --> 00:39:15,840
Speaker 1: those different things. And you are one of the hardest

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00:39:15,880 --> 00:39:19,200
Speaker 1: working people period at the network because you're still doing

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00:39:19,440 --> 00:39:22,160
Speaker 1: college football coverage. You were doing SEC Nation, I think

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Speaker 1: you were doing the National Championship game. Yeah here in

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00:39:25,840 --> 00:39:28,839
Speaker 1: addition to hosting. I feel like I was just here. Yeah. Absolutely.

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Speaker 1: What is the preparation like for you behind the scenes,

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Speaker 1: Because all anyone sees is that time that you're on television,

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Speaker 1: They do not know all of the work that goes

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Speaker 1: in to preparing for each and every show and doing

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00:39:42,040 --> 00:39:45,239
Speaker 1: multiple different jobs that you might be juggling simultaneously. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I think for me, I've had to figure out how

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Speaker 1: to compartmentalize a little bit. And during the college football season,

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Speaker 1: you know, I hosted SEC Nations, So on Fridays, I

854
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Speaker 1: would host NFL Live on the road and then transition

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Speaker 1: to SEC Nation on Saturdays. And that was probably the

856
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Speaker 1: most abrupt turnaround that I had. But really, what I

857
00:40:01,040 --> 00:40:03,239
Speaker 1: would do is say, all right, so on Saturday, I'm

858
00:40:03,280 --> 00:40:05,960
Speaker 1: fully invested in college football. On Friday, it's a little

859
00:40:06,000 --> 00:40:07,680
Speaker 1: bit of a half and half because I'm still hosting

860
00:40:07,760 --> 00:40:10,720
Speaker 1: NFL Live but preparing for SEC Nation, and then throughout

861
00:40:10,760 --> 00:40:13,680
Speaker 1: the week it's a working knowledge of both sports and

862
00:40:14,040 --> 00:40:16,560
Speaker 1: of both leagues, for lack of a better way to

863
00:40:16,640 --> 00:40:19,719
Speaker 1: put it. And I think for me, I my level

864
00:40:19,760 --> 00:40:23,360
Speaker 1: of prior to this season and even the season before

865
00:40:24,160 --> 00:40:28,680
Speaker 1: was so intense, and it was always constant research and

866
00:40:28,760 --> 00:40:30,719
Speaker 1: constant I need to read this article, and I need

867
00:40:30,800 --> 00:40:32,560
Speaker 1: to call this person, and I need to watch this

868
00:40:32,680 --> 00:40:33,960
Speaker 1: and I need to find this out, and I need

869
00:40:34,000 --> 00:40:36,000
Speaker 1: to I mean, I watch a lot of film too,

870
00:40:36,160 --> 00:40:38,160
Speaker 1: just I watched in a different way than obviously our

871
00:40:38,200 --> 00:40:41,200
Speaker 1: analysts do, but just to familiarize myself with things that

872
00:40:41,280 --> 00:40:43,279
Speaker 1: they're talking about and make it make sense for me.

873
00:40:43,440 --> 00:40:45,839
Speaker 1: And so I felt like I had to dial back

874
00:40:45,920 --> 00:40:47,799
Speaker 1: on some of that, and that made me very uncomfortable.

875
00:40:47,920 --> 00:40:50,040
Speaker 1: But what I think you find is that a working

876
00:40:50,160 --> 00:40:54,440
Speaker 1: knowledge allows you to go out there and be prepared,

877
00:40:54,640 --> 00:40:57,000
Speaker 1: and then in other times you remember that this is

878
00:40:57,000 --> 00:40:59,000
Speaker 1: an entertainment business and at the end of the day,

879
00:40:59,280 --> 00:41:01,960
Speaker 1: like taking myself too seriously is the worst thing I

880
00:41:02,000 --> 00:41:05,239
Speaker 1: could possibly do, and so you know, really leaning on

881
00:41:05,440 --> 00:41:07,560
Speaker 1: the people around me, I think helps a lot. And

882
00:41:07,640 --> 00:41:09,960
Speaker 1: all of that, and and if I'm being totally honest,

883
00:41:10,040 --> 00:41:11,640
Speaker 1: not a lot of sleep and a lot of coffee.

884
00:41:11,719 --> 00:41:16,760
Speaker 1: So that helps, But um, you know I I another

885
00:41:16,840 --> 00:41:19,239
Speaker 1: thing too that I think is important is just trying

886
00:41:19,280 --> 00:41:21,440
Speaker 1: to always live in a space of gratitude. And I'm

887
00:41:21,800 --> 00:41:23,719
Speaker 1: not sitting here saying that there aren't days where I'm

888
00:41:23,719 --> 00:41:26,879
Speaker 1: like WHOA, Yeah, girl is tired and what am I doing?

889
00:41:27,040 --> 00:41:29,480
Speaker 1: You know? But but I think at the end of

890
00:41:29,480 --> 00:41:32,279
Speaker 1: the day, I always remember I wanted to be the

891
00:41:32,440 --> 00:41:35,440
Speaker 1: radio sideline reporter at Florida That that was my dream

892
00:41:35,520 --> 00:41:38,320
Speaker 1: job in when I was in college, and I couldn't

893
00:41:38,320 --> 00:41:39,880
Speaker 1: believe I'd even have a chance to do that. So

894
00:41:40,200 --> 00:41:42,680
Speaker 1: I'm always like, wow, Remember, I mean, you couldn't even

895
00:41:42,880 --> 00:41:46,239
Speaker 1: dreamt these jobs in this career. And at some point

896
00:41:46,239 --> 00:41:48,120
Speaker 1: I'm to be over and at that point I can

897
00:41:48,160 --> 00:41:51,479
Speaker 1: get plenty of rest, right, and I'll look back and say, wow,

898
00:41:51,600 --> 00:41:53,600
Speaker 1: you know that that was something that I could have

899
00:41:53,680 --> 00:41:56,960
Speaker 1: never imagined. How does your you know, you mentioned juggling

900
00:41:57,080 --> 00:41:59,520
Speaker 1: NFL live an sec nation and kind of dipping your

901
00:41:59,560 --> 00:42:02,680
Speaker 1: toe back in college for that. How does now that

902
00:42:02,719 --> 00:42:04,719
Speaker 1: we're here at the NFL Combine and you're seeing some

903
00:42:04,840 --> 00:42:07,160
Speaker 1: of these players who you've researched and talked about on

904
00:42:07,280 --> 00:42:11,440
Speaker 1: that show now coming here being evaluated by NFL teams

905
00:42:11,440 --> 00:42:13,600
Speaker 1: that you will eventually be talking about on NFL Live.

906
00:42:13,680 --> 00:42:15,359
Speaker 1: How does that kind of help you out in your

907
00:42:15,400 --> 00:42:17,399
Speaker 1: coverage here? This is my favorite part of the year

908
00:42:17,600 --> 00:42:20,160
Speaker 1: because it is it's like my two worlds converge, and

909
00:42:21,080 --> 00:42:24,480
Speaker 1: if anything, I'm almost excited for the world to learn

910
00:42:24,520 --> 00:42:26,920
Speaker 1: about these guys because I feel like in our college

911
00:42:26,960 --> 00:42:30,279
Speaker 1: football world, it's certainly national coverage. And you think about

912
00:42:30,320 --> 00:42:32,840
Speaker 1: the Georgias and the Alabamas of the world, the Florida's,

913
00:42:32,920 --> 00:42:36,560
Speaker 1: the Ohio States, I mean, usc those are the brand

914
00:42:36,680 --> 00:42:38,759
Speaker 1: names that you hear about a lot. But there are

915
00:42:38,840 --> 00:42:41,360
Speaker 1: so many of these players that are yet to be

916
00:42:41,640 --> 00:42:44,200
Speaker 1: discovered in a lot of ways that I've seen their

917
00:42:44,280 --> 00:42:47,240
Speaker 1: stories where I've watched them grow, I've watched them struggle

918
00:42:47,280 --> 00:42:49,279
Speaker 1: at times. I mean, you think about the story of

919
00:42:49,320 --> 00:42:51,720
Speaker 1: Matt Corrall this year and one of my favorite players

920
00:42:51,760 --> 00:42:54,440
Speaker 1: that I've ever covered, the old miss quarterback, and to

921
00:42:54,560 --> 00:42:57,080
Speaker 1: see him, without a doubt play in that Sugar Bowl

922
00:42:57,160 --> 00:43:00,200
Speaker 1: and then the sickening moment of getting injured in the game,

923
00:43:00,239 --> 00:43:02,439
Speaker 1: and yet he still has no regrets. I mean, that's

924
00:43:02,480 --> 00:43:05,840
Speaker 1: who that guy is. And and watching him get paired

925
00:43:05,960 --> 00:43:08,440
Speaker 1: up with Lane Kiffin and see his growth and the

926
00:43:08,520 --> 00:43:11,799
Speaker 1: way that he's um, you know, just become a great

927
00:43:11,880 --> 00:43:14,120
Speaker 1: quarterback that I think has a good chance to be

928
00:43:14,320 --> 00:43:17,319
Speaker 1: a great guy at the next level. It is really cool,

929
00:43:17,440 --> 00:43:19,440
Speaker 1: So I love it. Um it becomes a lot easier

930
00:43:19,480 --> 00:43:21,160
Speaker 1: for me. I don't have to do as much of

931
00:43:21,320 --> 00:43:24,320
Speaker 1: the sort of familiarizing myself with these names, and it

932
00:43:24,400 --> 00:43:27,000
Speaker 1: becomes more about how can I tell people something that

933
00:43:27,320 --> 00:43:30,560
Speaker 1: they don't know about these these prospects. And I think

934
00:43:30,560 --> 00:43:32,880
Speaker 1: the personal side of the draft and the combine is

935
00:43:32,920 --> 00:43:36,359
Speaker 1: really important because if you're a fan of whatever team,

936
00:43:36,560 --> 00:43:38,319
Speaker 1: you want to know, who are these guys? Who am

937
00:43:38,360 --> 00:43:41,120
Speaker 1: I getting? Who Who's gonna be a jersey that I'm

938
00:43:41,160 --> 00:43:42,680
Speaker 1: gonna want to buy or that I'm gonna want to

939
00:43:42,719 --> 00:43:46,239
Speaker 1: tell my kids about. NFL Live is year round at

940
00:43:46,320 --> 00:43:48,400
Speaker 1: this point. This is not something that is just over

941
00:43:48,440 --> 00:43:51,359
Speaker 1: the course of this season, covering the postseason. What will

942
00:43:51,400 --> 00:43:54,280
Speaker 1: your role be leading up to the NFL draft coverage?

943
00:43:54,400 --> 00:43:57,600
Speaker 1: And then also how indicative is it of the monster

944
00:43:57,880 --> 00:44:02,200
Speaker 1: that the NFL is. You can command three sixty five

945
00:44:02,360 --> 00:44:05,440
Speaker 1: type of conversations for this sport. It's a good thing

946
00:44:05,480 --> 00:44:08,120
Speaker 1: for job security for us, right, Yeah, it never ends, right,

947
00:44:08,200 --> 00:44:10,239
Speaker 1: I mean this NFL news cycle just goes on and

948
00:44:10,320 --> 00:44:13,239
Speaker 1: on and on, and it's so funny. Like after the

949
00:44:13,360 --> 00:44:15,880
Speaker 1: regular season, after the Super Bowl, we were getting a

950
00:44:15,880 --> 00:44:17,719
Speaker 1: lot of tweets saying, oh, we're gonna miss you guys

951
00:44:17,920 --> 00:44:20,239
Speaker 1: until next season. We're like, hey, we're still here, like

952
00:44:20,680 --> 00:44:23,000
Speaker 1: we're not going anywhere. So yeah, that you know, the

953
00:44:23,360 --> 00:44:26,080
Speaker 1: role continues to be every day, five days a week,

954
00:44:26,120 --> 00:44:29,520
Speaker 1: four pm, NFL Live, and we'll do a lot of

955
00:44:29,600 --> 00:44:32,560
Speaker 1: coverage that's more draft specific. Obviously leading up to the draft,

956
00:44:32,600 --> 00:44:35,040
Speaker 1: will be at the Draft, and then you know, even

957
00:44:35,120 --> 00:44:38,439
Speaker 1: following the draft, obviously we continue on and by that point,

958
00:44:38,480 --> 00:44:40,440
Speaker 1: you know, you sort of make the transition. We end

959
00:44:40,520 --> 00:44:43,400
Speaker 1: up in July and you're talking about training cams and

960
00:44:43,440 --> 00:44:45,960
Speaker 1: everybody getting back out there. I mean, it's just it is.

961
00:44:46,080 --> 00:44:48,239
Speaker 1: The NFL is so smart in this way. They are

962
00:44:48,360 --> 00:44:51,680
Speaker 1: never out of the news cycle, and I'm just honored

963
00:44:51,719 --> 00:44:53,600
Speaker 1: to be able to be a very small part of that.

964
00:44:53,880 --> 00:44:55,680
Speaker 1: You mentioned sitting at the table with a group of

965
00:44:55,680 --> 00:44:58,160
Speaker 1: analysts that you do, and even before you were sitting

966
00:44:58,200 --> 00:45:00,399
Speaker 1: at the table when everyone was virtual, you're all trying

967
00:45:00,440 --> 00:45:02,279
Speaker 1: to come together and do a show. One of the

968
00:45:02,360 --> 00:45:04,719
Speaker 1: silver linings I found of the pandemic was when we

969
00:45:04,800 --> 00:45:06,879
Speaker 1: were doing a lot of the road games. I wasn't

970
00:45:06,920 --> 00:45:08,320
Speaker 1: down on the sideline because we had to call the

971
00:45:08,360 --> 00:45:10,839
Speaker 1: games remotely for some of these. So I'm sitting next

972
00:45:10,880 --> 00:45:15,080
Speaker 1: to our color analyst, our color commentator, Rick Fentury, longtime

973
00:45:15,120 --> 00:45:17,799
Speaker 1: coach in the NFL, and I would just absorb by

974
00:45:17,840 --> 00:45:20,279
Speaker 1: osmosis so much by being next to him or having

975
00:45:20,360 --> 00:45:24,360
Speaker 1: conversations in commercial breaks. You have brilliant analysts around you.

976
00:45:24,400 --> 00:45:27,880
Speaker 1: You're incredibly talented in hosting everything. How much have you

977
00:45:28,000 --> 00:45:31,160
Speaker 1: grown and learned by being surrounded by the group that

978
00:45:31,239 --> 00:45:33,879
Speaker 1: you have. What are the different intricacies that the people

979
00:45:33,920 --> 00:45:36,319
Speaker 1: who work on that show have contributed to your career.

980
00:45:36,800 --> 00:45:39,560
Speaker 1: I've learned so much. They constantly amazed me. I mean,

981
00:45:39,640 --> 00:45:42,360
Speaker 1: Dan Rolovsky is the absolute best when it comes to

982
00:45:42,880 --> 00:45:46,440
Speaker 1: the tape breakdowns on camera. What you guys see is

983
00:45:47,000 --> 00:45:51,000
Speaker 1: not rehearsed. It's that is his natural talent, his natural ability.

984
00:45:51,040 --> 00:45:54,000
Speaker 1: And this guy is literally sending us these tape breakdowns

985
00:45:54,080 --> 00:45:57,480
Speaker 1: on his phone at five am every morning throughout the season,

986
00:45:57,880 --> 00:46:00,080
Speaker 1: and I love it. I'm like sitting in bed like

987
00:46:00,200 --> 00:46:03,320
Speaker 1: watching and I'll get our two year old out of

988
00:46:03,600 --> 00:46:05,640
Speaker 1: her bed and bring her into the bed and you know,

989
00:46:05,719 --> 00:46:08,040
Speaker 1: we're watching and she's like, oh, it's football, and I'm like, yes,

990
00:46:08,239 --> 00:46:11,359
Speaker 1: one after the other, you know. But but I mean

991
00:46:11,520 --> 00:46:13,799
Speaker 1: so fascinating the things that he notices about the game

992
00:46:13,840 --> 00:46:16,680
Speaker 1: that's made me watch the game different. Mina Kimes, who

993
00:46:16,760 --> 00:46:20,000
Speaker 1: has such a unique perspective on football and is one

994
00:46:20,040 --> 00:46:23,200
Speaker 1: of the most talented and knowledgeable football analysts that I've

995
00:46:23,239 --> 00:46:26,600
Speaker 1: ever come in contact with the way that she sees

996
00:46:26,680 --> 00:46:30,920
Speaker 1: things and her overall perspective over the way that you know,

997
00:46:31,160 --> 00:46:35,720
Speaker 1: offenses in defenses in general have changed and different trends

998
00:46:35,760 --> 00:46:38,240
Speaker 1: that we see and um, you know, even just watching

999
00:46:38,600 --> 00:46:43,040
Speaker 1: how she processes things explaining real time, Hey, this is

1000
00:46:43,080 --> 00:46:45,399
Speaker 1: why you would go for two here, all of those

1001
00:46:45,480 --> 00:46:49,120
Speaker 1: things that now I feel that I'm a smarter football

1002
00:46:49,160 --> 00:46:51,239
Speaker 1: fan who's been a fan all my life, but you know,

1003
00:46:51,360 --> 00:46:54,040
Speaker 1: have grown a lot. Marcus Spears, who is like my brother.

1004
00:46:54,200 --> 00:46:57,160
Speaker 1: We've been family forever because we started at the SEC

1005
00:46:57,239 --> 00:46:59,640
Speaker 1: Network together back in twenty fourteen. His joy for the

1006
00:46:59,719 --> 00:47:04,160
Speaker 1: game is so contagious. Ryan Clark, who I've never seen

1007
00:47:04,239 --> 00:47:08,520
Speaker 1: someone explain defensive schemes better. And it was funny because

1008
00:47:08,920 --> 00:47:11,560
Speaker 1: even last night he was visiting with Louie and Rumo

1009
00:47:11,640 --> 00:47:15,040
Speaker 1: at the Bengals defensive coordinator and you know, just nerding

1010
00:47:15,080 --> 00:47:20,240
Speaker 1: out on nitty gritty scheme and talking about that Bengals defense.

1011
00:47:20,360 --> 00:47:23,239
Speaker 1: And it's just so fun to be a fly on

1012
00:47:23,320 --> 00:47:26,560
Speaker 1: the wall and in all of that. And I really

1013
00:47:26,640 --> 00:47:29,680
Speaker 1: do feel like I've had the luxury of growing leaps

1014
00:47:29,719 --> 00:47:32,640
Speaker 1: and bounds and in my football fandom and knowledge. So

1015
00:47:32,960 --> 00:47:35,000
Speaker 1: NFL Free Agencies coming up in a couple of weeks.

1016
00:47:35,600 --> 00:47:37,799
Speaker 1: What is it like hosting a live show when there

1017
00:47:37,960 --> 00:47:41,320
Speaker 1: is just constantly breaking news, breaking news, breaking news, And

1018
00:47:42,200 --> 00:47:46,360
Speaker 1: it's to me that seems like an incredibly fun challenge,

1019
00:47:46,440 --> 00:47:49,040
Speaker 1: but definitely a challenge. What is that like? So it's

1020
00:47:49,080 --> 00:47:51,560
Speaker 1: funny because I think you and you guys know this.

1021
00:47:51,719 --> 00:47:54,920
Speaker 1: You're very unscripted on your coverage. I think there are

1022
00:47:54,960 --> 00:47:57,880
Speaker 1: a lot of hosts that would say, and I totally

1023
00:47:57,960 --> 00:47:59,840
Speaker 1: respect this, it would say, wow, those shows kind of

1024
00:47:59,840 --> 00:48:03,520
Speaker 1: make me uncomfortable. That type of show is my wheelhouse.

1025
00:48:03,640 --> 00:48:05,839
Speaker 1: I love it to go in and say, all right,

1026
00:48:05,880 --> 00:48:07,279
Speaker 1: so we think this is going to happen, we think

1027
00:48:07,320 --> 00:48:09,279
Speaker 1: that's going to happen. We have a loose plan. We

1028
00:48:09,360 --> 00:48:11,760
Speaker 1: know we're gonna be popping up Adam schefter tweets throughout

1029
00:48:11,800 --> 00:48:13,560
Speaker 1: the show, we're going to be popping him on to

1030
00:48:13,640 --> 00:48:16,440
Speaker 1: tell us what's happening, but really we have no idea.

1031
00:48:16,560 --> 00:48:19,320
Speaker 1: And you know, my career really started in live event coverage,

1032
00:48:19,320 --> 00:48:22,080
Speaker 1: and so there is nothing less scripted than a game

1033
00:48:22,160 --> 00:48:24,239
Speaker 1: because you don't know what's going to happen, and being

1034
00:48:24,320 --> 00:48:26,600
Speaker 1: prepared but yet throwing out all of your notes because

1035
00:48:26,680 --> 00:48:29,520
Speaker 1: something changes and you've got to roll with the punches.

1036
00:48:29,520 --> 00:48:31,799
Speaker 1: I mean, it is very similar to that in a way.

1037
00:48:31,920 --> 00:48:35,719
Speaker 1: But I think for me, you know, almost learning to

1038
00:48:36,080 --> 00:48:38,400
Speaker 1: break down some of the barriers we call it the

1039
00:48:38,440 --> 00:48:42,399
Speaker 1: fourth wall sometimes right and being real about it. You know, hey,

1040
00:48:42,480 --> 00:48:45,640
Speaker 1: I'm getting in my ear right now information, the urgency

1041
00:48:45,760 --> 00:48:48,360
Speaker 1: there of driving that to the fans at home, and

1042
00:48:49,480 --> 00:48:53,120
Speaker 1: you know, calling their attention to things, almost noticing that

1043
00:48:53,320 --> 00:48:55,799
Speaker 1: they should care about them, or that hey, we're going

1044
00:48:55,840 --> 00:48:57,600
Speaker 1: to be doing this and this, selling things as we

1045
00:48:57,719 --> 00:49:00,160
Speaker 1: go along. I mean that those are the moments that

1046
00:49:00,280 --> 00:49:03,280
Speaker 1: I really treasure, and those have always been my favorite shows.

1047
00:49:03,440 --> 00:49:05,880
Speaker 1: You mentioned your two year old, and she's prominently featured

1048
00:49:05,880 --> 00:49:08,960
Speaker 1: those who follow you, and hundreds of thousands or millions

1049
00:49:09,040 --> 00:49:12,800
Speaker 1: follow you across your platforms, and she is like a savant.

1050
00:49:14,960 --> 00:49:16,640
Speaker 1: I don't know if she signed a deal with like

1051
00:49:16,840 --> 00:49:21,960
Speaker 1: bet MGM or something. Should maybe what was her record

1052
00:49:22,000 --> 00:49:25,319
Speaker 1: in college football? She poured chance. She was fourteen and three,

1053
00:49:25,719 --> 00:49:28,840
Speaker 1: and like I people are always like, oh, well, you

1054
00:49:28,920 --> 00:49:30,359
Speaker 1: must be telling her what to do. I'm like, if

1055
00:49:30,360 --> 00:49:31,959
Speaker 1: I told her what to do, a record to be worse.

1056
00:49:32,080 --> 00:49:34,040
Speaker 1: You know, there were so many times. I mean, we

1057
00:49:34,320 --> 00:49:37,520
Speaker 1: really a two year old that definitely tress, yes, and

1058
00:49:37,920 --> 00:49:40,560
Speaker 1: like right, I'm like, if you're telling me that I'm

1059
00:49:40,560 --> 00:49:42,160
Speaker 1: telling her what to do, you don't have a two

1060
00:49:42,200 --> 00:49:44,319
Speaker 1: year old and we have never had one, because they

1061
00:49:44,400 --> 00:49:46,839
Speaker 1: do what they want. But um, you know, it's it's

1062
00:49:46,880 --> 00:49:49,759
Speaker 1: so funny because it's been really special for us. I mean,

1063
00:49:49,840 --> 00:49:51,360
Speaker 1: it was just a random idea that we thought up

1064
00:49:51,400 --> 00:49:53,680
Speaker 1: in the pandemic when she she couldn't even walk at

1065
00:49:53,719 --> 00:49:56,080
Speaker 1: that point, she was still like eight months old, and

1066
00:49:56,600 --> 00:49:59,080
Speaker 1: she would crawl to the helmets, you know, and somehow

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Speaker 1: she's always known what to do. We've never even really

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Speaker 1: said anything, just put her in a hallway or now

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Speaker 1: we've gone outside and put her outside. But yeah, So

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Speaker 1: one of the weirdest ones was my husband went to Alabama,

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Speaker 1: so she picked Alabama to win this SEC Championship games.

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Speaker 1: She picked an upset there, and of course he's like,

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Speaker 1: I don't even care if they lose, you know, this

1074
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Speaker 1: is great Reese, good job, bah blah blah blah. Then

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Speaker 1: we get to the National Championship and she picks Georgia

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Speaker 1: and he said, oh, well, we got to do it again.

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Speaker 1: And I said, okay, well, you know fine, I'll give

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Speaker 1: you a mulligan here because it's very important to you,

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Speaker 1: but I feel like, to the sanctity of her picks,

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Speaker 1: it's not quite right, but we'll do it anyway. She

1081
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Speaker 1: proceeds to pick Georgia three straight times. He then locks

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Speaker 1: himself in our living room, has like a closed off door,

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Speaker 1: and we'll not talk to her for an hour. And

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Speaker 1: I finally went in there and I said, do you

1085
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Speaker 1: realize that this is a two year old and this

1086
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Speaker 1: is your child? And he's like, I know, but now

1087
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Speaker 1: we're gonna lose. Sure enough, she's right. Georgia wins the

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Speaker 1: National Championship. So that's when she really started to freak

1089
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Speaker 1: me out. And she picked the Super Bowl correctly, So

1090
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Speaker 1: if you you know, add that in there's another correct pick.

1091
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Speaker 1: That was her only NFL pick of this season, but

1092
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Speaker 1: so fifteen and three, then maybe we should let her

1093
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Speaker 1: in the draft room and absolutely, yeah, here's your three

1094
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Speaker 1: three draft cards. Which one are you going to pick? Yeah? Absolutely?

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Speaker 1: All right. Well, Laura Rutledge, thank you so much for

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Speaker 1: joining us. Member. You can watch her on NFL Live

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Speaker 1: on ESPN every day because the NFL sleason season does

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Speaker 1: not sleep, there is no such thing. Hopefully you get

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Speaker 1: some sleep, although the two year old. Yeah, and I'm like, hey,

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Speaker 1: four hours here and there, I'll take it. I appreciate

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Speaker 1: you guys, Thank you so much. All right, thanks again

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Speaker 1: to Lara Overton, Matt Taylor, Brad Spielberger, and Laura Rutledge

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Speaker 1: for joining me jj Stankovitz here on this episode of

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Speaker 1: the Colt's Official Podcast presented by Win Bat. Remember, please rate,

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Speaker 1: review and subscribe to the Colts Audio Network wherever you

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Speaker 1: get your podcasts. Give us those five star reviews. We

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Speaker 1: love seeing them turn on those notifications because we have

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Speaker 1: a bunch of free agency little vignettes coming out. If

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Speaker 1: you haven't listened to them, we just did one. Bill Brooks,

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Speaker 1: Matt Taylor, and I on Chris Reid and Mark Glewinsky.

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Speaker 1: Interesting stuff there on what the Colts future right guard is, Lara.

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Speaker 1: You're gonna do one with Matt Taylor and Casey Valier

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Speaker 1: on al Kadi Muhammad. That'll be out on Wednesday. We

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Speaker 1: have another Inside the Draft episode coming out Thursday, and

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Speaker 1: then Friday is the Last Word. Take you into the weekend,

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Speaker 1: and then next week free agency begin. Dude, buckle up

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Speaker 1: for free agency. We'll be back here on the Colts

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Speaker 1: Official podcast next Tuesday. I'm here on the Colts Audio Network. Anyways,

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Speaker 1: thank you for listening so much. We'll talk to you

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Speaker 1: next time.