1 00:00:00,360 --> 00:00:01,080 Speaker 1: Taking a Walk. 2 00:00:01,240 --> 00:00:04,160 Speaker 2: I'm buzz night and welcome to the Taking a Walk Podcast. 3 00:00:04,240 --> 00:00:07,200 Speaker 3: This is the podcast where we talk to artists and 4 00:00:07,240 --> 00:00:10,879 Speaker 3: get their stories, their songs, their journeys. 5 00:00:10,240 --> 00:00:11,360 Speaker 2: That shape them. 6 00:00:11,680 --> 00:00:14,880 Speaker 3: Today, we take a walk with a voice that's become 7 00:00:14,920 --> 00:00:18,280 Speaker 3: a staple of country and pop music over the past. 8 00:00:18,000 --> 00:00:18,960 Speaker 2: Couple of decades. 9 00:00:19,480 --> 00:00:24,279 Speaker 3: Charles Kelly a Grammy winning singer songwriter founding member of 10 00:00:24,360 --> 00:00:28,000 Speaker 3: the chart topping trio Lady A. From his early days 11 00:00:28,040 --> 00:00:30,760 Speaker 3: growing up in Augusta, Georgia, to forming a band with 12 00:00:30,800 --> 00:00:34,080 Speaker 3: his brothers that caught the attention of James Brown, Charles 13 00:00:34,200 --> 00:00:38,240 Speaker 3: has always followed the music wherever it led him. He's 14 00:00:38,280 --> 00:00:40,879 Speaker 3: written songs for some of the biggest names in country, 15 00:00:41,240 --> 00:00:45,760 Speaker 3: released acclaimed solo work, and opened up about his personal journey, 16 00:00:46,000 --> 00:00:49,519 Speaker 3: including his path to sobriety and the lessons he's learned 17 00:00:49,560 --> 00:00:50,280 Speaker 3: along the way. 18 00:00:50,760 --> 00:00:52,280 Speaker 2: With a brand new solo. 19 00:00:51,960 --> 00:00:54,480 Speaker 3: Album, Songs for a New Moon out now, and a 20 00:00:54,520 --> 00:00:58,200 Speaker 3: growing family at home, Charles is embracing a new chapter, 21 00:00:58,320 --> 00:01:04,480 Speaker 3: one filled with optimism, fresh perspective, and as always, unforgettable songs. 22 00:01:05,080 --> 00:01:07,760 Speaker 3: Before we listen to the Taken a Walk Podcast episode 23 00:01:07,800 --> 00:01:11,440 Speaker 3: with Charles Kelly of Lady A, fame. Let's take a 24 00:01:11,440 --> 00:01:14,600 Speaker 3: look at the great career of this Grammy winning artist, 25 00:01:15,080 --> 00:01:18,200 Speaker 3: and for that we go to our correspondent in Nashville, 26 00:01:18,520 --> 00:01:19,520 Speaker 3: Sarah Harrelson. 27 00:01:19,680 --> 00:01:24,680 Speaker 4: Thanks, buzz. I am really looking forward to this interview 28 00:01:25,200 --> 00:01:29,959 Speaker 4: because I grew up, of course listening to Lady A 29 00:01:30,160 --> 00:01:34,560 Speaker 4: and hearing Charles Kelly's voice. But when he released his 30 00:01:34,880 --> 00:01:40,559 Speaker 4: first solo country album, The Driver in twenty sixteen, I 31 00:01:40,640 --> 00:01:42,880 Speaker 4: just fell in love with that album. It's always been 32 00:01:42,880 --> 00:01:47,480 Speaker 4: one of my favorites, so I'm really excited to finish listening. 33 00:01:47,720 --> 00:01:51,120 Speaker 4: I've already listened to a little bit of songs for 34 00:01:51,240 --> 00:01:56,120 Speaker 4: a New Moon, his new soft rock album, and it's 35 00:01:56,280 --> 00:01:59,920 Speaker 4: filled with a lot of eighty since and of course 36 00:02:00,320 --> 00:02:06,360 Speaker 4: his vocals are always amazing, but I am so curious 37 00:02:06,400 --> 00:02:11,200 Speaker 4: to hear why he took this sort of direction with 38 00:02:11,520 --> 00:02:15,799 Speaker 4: his music. And I also got to meet him when 39 00:02:15,840 --> 00:02:20,440 Speaker 4: I was working in Nashville backstage at the CMT Awards, 40 00:02:20,600 --> 00:02:26,120 Speaker 4: probably around twenty fifteen, and got to escort him backstage, 41 00:02:26,240 --> 00:02:29,000 Speaker 4: and he was such a great guy, so I can 42 00:02:29,040 --> 00:02:33,520 Speaker 4: only imagine that's how the interview went as well. Once again, 43 00:02:33,639 --> 00:02:39,000 Speaker 4: I'm Sarah Harrelson, based right here in Nashville, Tennessee. And 44 00:02:39,440 --> 00:02:40,560 Speaker 4: back to you buzz. 45 00:02:40,880 --> 00:02:44,560 Speaker 2: Thanks so much, Sarah. Now Charles Kelly, Taking. 46 00:02:44,320 --> 00:02:49,919 Speaker 3: A Walk, Charles Kelly, welcome to Taking a Walk, my friend. Hey, 47 00:02:50,080 --> 00:02:52,280 Speaker 3: we do oh doing great, doing great, Thank you for 48 00:02:52,360 --> 00:02:57,000 Speaker 3: being here. So, since we call this podcast taking a Walk, 49 00:02:57,880 --> 00:03:02,080 Speaker 3: if you could take a walk with someone dead, doesn't 50 00:03:02,120 --> 00:03:04,960 Speaker 3: have to be musical, but it could be someone involved 51 00:03:04,960 --> 00:03:05,400 Speaker 3: with music. 52 00:03:05,440 --> 00:03:07,320 Speaker 2: Who would you take a walk with? And where would 53 00:03:07,400 --> 00:03:08,880 Speaker 2: you take that? Saunter? 54 00:03:10,680 --> 00:03:15,680 Speaker 5: Oh gosh, Paul McCartney for sure. Yeah, there he is 55 00:03:15,760 --> 00:03:19,640 Speaker 5: right there. Yeah, this is a kind. 56 00:03:19,440 --> 00:03:19,880 Speaker 6: Of a wall. 57 00:03:20,000 --> 00:03:22,200 Speaker 5: I've got a bunch of different influences up here, and 58 00:03:22,280 --> 00:03:30,239 Speaker 5: all kinds of different genres of artists, but hugely influenced by. 59 00:03:28,960 --> 00:03:31,960 Speaker 6: Just everything but Beatles. I think. I think Paul McCartney 60 00:03:32,200 --> 00:03:32,920 Speaker 6: and you know. 61 00:03:32,919 --> 00:03:35,840 Speaker 5: One of the best songwriters of all time, and he's 62 00:03:35,880 --> 00:03:38,280 Speaker 5: just one of those guys I still haven't you know, 63 00:03:38,520 --> 00:03:40,640 Speaker 5: haven't gotten to meet. I've been lucky enough to meet 64 00:03:41,440 --> 00:03:44,280 Speaker 5: Bruce Springsteen. We got to do a show opening up 65 00:03:44,320 --> 00:03:47,520 Speaker 5: for Bruce in London actually at Hyde Park a long 66 00:03:47,560 --> 00:03:50,960 Speaker 5: time ago. That was pretty cool, funny story about that. 67 00:03:51,080 --> 00:03:55,360 Speaker 5: We we had, like you know, any time in between songs. 68 00:03:55,680 --> 00:03:59,040 Speaker 5: You know, these are diehard Bruce Springsteen fans, and you 69 00:03:59,080 --> 00:04:03,680 Speaker 5: know they're like Bruce between I remember Hillary Goes, were 70 00:04:03,680 --> 00:04:05,880 Speaker 5: they booing us and it was like, no, they're saying Bruce, like, 71 00:04:05,920 --> 00:04:09,000 Speaker 5: don't take it like they're diehard fans, like they're they're 72 00:04:09,040 --> 00:04:11,240 Speaker 5: ready for us to saying need you now and get 73 00:04:11,240 --> 00:04:12,880 Speaker 5: off the stage so Bruce can come up here? 74 00:04:14,120 --> 00:04:16,000 Speaker 2: Where would you go with Paul for that walk do 75 00:04:16,040 --> 00:04:16,240 Speaker 2: you know? 76 00:04:17,360 --> 00:04:20,760 Speaker 6: Oh, my gosh, somewhere you know. 77 00:04:20,800 --> 00:04:24,080 Speaker 5: I would love to like just you know, walk through 78 00:04:24,160 --> 00:04:27,960 Speaker 5: like I don't know, maybe maybe Abbey Road, the studios, 79 00:04:28,040 --> 00:04:30,200 Speaker 5: you know, or something like that, and just hear some 80 00:04:30,240 --> 00:04:34,719 Speaker 5: of those stories. But I don't know anywhere really, I 81 00:04:34,760 --> 00:04:37,279 Speaker 5: mean it just just to be able to just have 82 00:04:37,400 --> 00:04:39,919 Speaker 5: a moment with him would be would be pretty amazing, 83 00:04:40,000 --> 00:04:43,599 Speaker 5: you know. But that was my first tattoo. Was was 84 00:04:43,640 --> 00:04:45,920 Speaker 5: a lyric from Blackbird. All your life, you were only 85 00:04:45,960 --> 00:04:47,240 Speaker 5: waiting for this moment to arise. 86 00:04:47,360 --> 00:04:49,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, you were reading my questions. 87 00:04:49,360 --> 00:04:52,400 Speaker 3: I was going to ask you about that and why 88 00:04:52,440 --> 00:04:55,600 Speaker 3: do those words resonate with you to this day. 89 00:04:56,480 --> 00:04:58,440 Speaker 6: I basically got this this tattoo. 90 00:04:58,480 --> 00:05:01,440 Speaker 5: To me, it means it was around the time that 91 00:05:01,520 --> 00:05:04,120 Speaker 5: I felt like my whole life was leading up to 92 00:05:04,160 --> 00:05:08,240 Speaker 5: this band and leading up to this chase, you know, 93 00:05:08,440 --> 00:05:11,800 Speaker 5: of being a musician, and you know, I felt like 94 00:05:11,960 --> 00:05:14,279 Speaker 5: all my life I was only waiting for this moment 95 00:05:14,320 --> 00:05:17,200 Speaker 5: to like have a chance to like follow my dream, 96 00:05:17,720 --> 00:05:19,840 Speaker 5: you know. And so that's that was my first tattoo. 97 00:05:20,200 --> 00:05:22,840 Speaker 5: And then I had another one about a year later, 98 00:05:22,960 --> 00:05:24,680 Speaker 5: and then I didn't get another one for like five 99 00:05:24,760 --> 00:05:26,279 Speaker 5: or six years, and then all of a sudden, I 100 00:05:26,320 --> 00:05:28,960 Speaker 5: kind of went crazy, which is all over me now. 101 00:05:29,560 --> 00:05:34,240 Speaker 3: Expression exactly the artistic expression. We're going to talk about 102 00:05:34,400 --> 00:05:38,520 Speaker 3: songs for a New Moon. Congratulations on your new solo album. 103 00:05:38,600 --> 00:05:43,040 Speaker 3: But I want to go back to Augusta, Georgia. As 104 00:05:43,120 --> 00:05:50,080 Speaker 3: the youngest of three brothers, well musically inclined, what was 105 00:05:50,120 --> 00:05:53,200 Speaker 3: it like being in the Kelly household? 106 00:05:53,520 --> 00:05:53,919 Speaker 2: Was it was? 107 00:05:53,960 --> 00:05:58,240 Speaker 5: It always filled with music? It was chaos, Yeah, it was. 108 00:05:59,480 --> 00:06:03,320 Speaker 5: I had so I have two my oldest siblings, my 109 00:06:03,440 --> 00:06:05,719 Speaker 5: sister Christy and John were ten years older than me, 110 00:06:06,160 --> 00:06:08,760 Speaker 5: and then Josh and I, you know, were ten years younger, 111 00:06:08,800 --> 00:06:13,160 Speaker 5: about the same age, and so we always had like 112 00:06:13,520 --> 00:06:16,400 Speaker 5: so many different styles of music coming in and out. 113 00:06:16,480 --> 00:06:19,360 Speaker 5: My mom loved R and B. My dad loved country, 114 00:06:19,480 --> 00:06:22,159 Speaker 5: and then you know, my oldest siblings would bring home 115 00:06:22,200 --> 00:06:24,359 Speaker 5: whatever was happening, you know, So it could have been 116 00:06:24,440 --> 00:06:26,760 Speaker 5: Dave Matthew's band, it could have been Nirvana, it could 117 00:06:26,800 --> 00:06:29,640 Speaker 5: have been just anything, you know. I mean it was 118 00:06:29,720 --> 00:06:32,080 Speaker 5: like I got. I remember my oldest brother was obsessed 119 00:06:32,080 --> 00:06:34,600 Speaker 5: with like led Zeppelin and Black Sabbath. So I like 120 00:06:35,200 --> 00:06:37,760 Speaker 5: I had this mix of like, you know, listening to 121 00:06:37,839 --> 00:06:41,279 Speaker 5: Delilah and Richard Mars in the car with my mom, 122 00:06:41,440 --> 00:06:45,240 Speaker 5: to Garth Brooks with my dad, to you know, Ozzy 123 00:06:45,320 --> 00:06:47,840 Speaker 5: Osbourne with my oldest brother, and so it was like 124 00:06:47,880 --> 00:06:50,920 Speaker 5: this weird kind of like I just gravitated to whatever 125 00:06:50,960 --> 00:06:53,719 Speaker 5: I felt great, you know, and felt right. 126 00:06:54,480 --> 00:06:59,359 Speaker 6: And so I do remember though in my room, so 127 00:06:59,560 --> 00:07:02,280 Speaker 6: like when my oldest siblings moved out, you. 128 00:07:02,240 --> 00:07:04,200 Speaker 5: Know, I ended up getting like you know, we had 129 00:07:04,240 --> 00:07:06,640 Speaker 5: like the whole upstairs to ourselves. And I remember my 130 00:07:06,640 --> 00:07:10,040 Speaker 5: brother and I dragging out this old record player. It's 131 00:07:10,040 --> 00:07:12,160 Speaker 5: a piece of furniture, you know that you would that 132 00:07:12,240 --> 00:07:14,679 Speaker 5: you lift up the top and there's the record player 133 00:07:14,680 --> 00:07:17,640 Speaker 5: in there. And being I was highly intrigued by it, 134 00:07:17,680 --> 00:07:19,560 Speaker 5: and so I dug around found all these records. I 135 00:07:19,600 --> 00:07:23,280 Speaker 5: remember lo and behold, I found the Fleetwood Mac Rumors record, 136 00:07:23,320 --> 00:07:25,720 Speaker 5: and so we've got Stevie back there. But that was 137 00:07:25,760 --> 00:07:28,720 Speaker 5: the first actual like vinyl. I think I was probably 138 00:07:28,800 --> 00:07:30,679 Speaker 5: nine or ten years old, and I remember just sitting 139 00:07:30,760 --> 00:07:35,000 Speaker 5: in my room like playing it over and over again. 140 00:07:35,040 --> 00:07:37,520 Speaker 5: I mean, it had such an effect, Like no one 141 00:07:37,560 --> 00:07:38,360 Speaker 5: told me to play it. 142 00:07:38,400 --> 00:07:39,720 Speaker 6: I just was like, out of. 143 00:07:39,720 --> 00:07:41,720 Speaker 5: All these records, I was like, this is the one. 144 00:07:41,960 --> 00:07:43,880 Speaker 5: This is the one that's like blowing my mind. So, 145 00:07:44,480 --> 00:07:46,560 Speaker 5: you know, there's a lot of those Fleetwood Mac influences 146 00:07:46,600 --> 00:07:48,960 Speaker 5: in the band, and even on this record, there's a 147 00:07:48,960 --> 00:07:52,600 Speaker 5: song called kiss this Thing Goodbye that is so reminiscent 148 00:07:52,680 --> 00:07:56,840 Speaker 5: of a Fleetwood Mac you know, kind of base. 149 00:07:56,000 --> 00:07:58,000 Speaker 6: Of music down there. You know a lot of those. 150 00:07:59,400 --> 00:08:02,400 Speaker 5: Just great wholt saving bass crews and stuff, you know 151 00:08:02,440 --> 00:08:03,480 Speaker 5: that they were so known for. 152 00:08:04,000 --> 00:08:08,880 Speaker 2: And I think musical diversity really is an amazing part 153 00:08:09,000 --> 00:08:12,600 Speaker 2: of the creative process for you. It really it feels 154 00:08:12,640 --> 00:08:13,040 Speaker 2: that way. 155 00:08:13,080 --> 00:08:16,640 Speaker 3: It just feels, you know, the rich experiences really play 156 00:08:16,680 --> 00:08:17,480 Speaker 3: out in your music. 157 00:08:18,360 --> 00:08:19,280 Speaker 6: It always has been. 158 00:08:19,320 --> 00:08:21,720 Speaker 5: I mean, I think with the band and especially you know, 159 00:08:22,040 --> 00:08:24,120 Speaker 5: as a solo artist, I mean I think I. 160 00:08:24,040 --> 00:08:25,360 Speaker 6: Think you can't help but. 161 00:08:26,880 --> 00:08:30,440 Speaker 5: Be influences, influenced by everything, especially you know, as we 162 00:08:30,560 --> 00:08:32,560 Speaker 5: keep moving on in music, I feel like, you know, 163 00:08:32,640 --> 00:08:36,360 Speaker 5: the genre border is is wide open. And I think 164 00:08:36,400 --> 00:08:39,280 Speaker 5: that's because, you know, it's not like we grow up 165 00:08:39,280 --> 00:08:41,360 Speaker 5: with one station in our town that we listen to. 166 00:08:41,440 --> 00:08:43,800 Speaker 5: You know, we kind of grew up with everything, and 167 00:08:43,880 --> 00:08:46,319 Speaker 5: especially just generation now. I mean, they're they're just putting 168 00:08:46,320 --> 00:08:49,480 Speaker 5: together a little playlist, you know, they're they're listening to 169 00:08:49,920 --> 00:08:53,120 Speaker 5: Drake and then turn around listening to Morgan Wallend and 170 00:08:53,280 --> 00:08:54,880 Speaker 5: turn around listening to Taylor Swift. 171 00:08:54,920 --> 00:08:56,720 Speaker 6: You know. So it's everything, and I think. 172 00:08:56,559 --> 00:08:59,120 Speaker 5: That's what's so cool about where we are, and I 173 00:08:59,160 --> 00:09:02,319 Speaker 5: hope it pushes, you know, the sound of music because too, 174 00:09:02,360 --> 00:09:05,559 Speaker 5: I mean, you know, there's there's only so many chords, 175 00:09:05,559 --> 00:09:07,760 Speaker 5: and so you know, we're all trying to find something 176 00:09:07,760 --> 00:09:10,720 Speaker 5: that feels fresh. And for me, you know, with this project, 177 00:09:10,880 --> 00:09:15,840 Speaker 5: I wanted it to feel very throwback and nostalgic, but 178 00:09:15,960 --> 00:09:18,319 Speaker 5: still have a fresh, you. 179 00:09:18,280 --> 00:09:19,800 Speaker 6: Know, current energy to it. 180 00:09:20,840 --> 00:09:22,840 Speaker 5: And so it was fun kind of you know, kind 181 00:09:22,840 --> 00:09:26,360 Speaker 5: of towing that line about about how much, you know, 182 00:09:26,360 --> 00:09:28,080 Speaker 5: because I never wanted the music to feel like a 183 00:09:28,160 --> 00:09:30,120 Speaker 5: character of the eighties, you know, I didn't want it 184 00:09:30,160 --> 00:09:33,440 Speaker 5: to be like, Okay, he's just throwing together these you know, 185 00:09:33,520 --> 00:09:37,040 Speaker 5: this wild you know, throwback poking fun. 186 00:09:36,880 --> 00:09:38,840 Speaker 6: At thing, you know, and it's it's. 187 00:09:38,760 --> 00:09:42,800 Speaker 5: Not it really truly is a celebration in a nod 188 00:09:42,880 --> 00:09:44,079 Speaker 5: at all my heroes. 189 00:09:44,120 --> 00:09:46,320 Speaker 2: You know, you and your your bros. 190 00:09:46,559 --> 00:09:51,280 Speaker 3: You formed the Inside Blue as as teens, and you 191 00:09:51,520 --> 00:09:56,240 Speaker 3: caught the attention of the one and only James Brown. 192 00:09:57,040 --> 00:10:00,120 Speaker 5: Yeah, well at least his manager. Yeah, it it was 193 00:10:00,160 --> 00:10:03,920 Speaker 5: pretty cool, uh that time. I remember our parents kind 194 00:10:03,920 --> 00:10:07,080 Speaker 5: of we're a little hesitant of us signing any deals 195 00:10:07,240 --> 00:10:09,400 Speaker 5: that early, but but it was cool to even have 196 00:10:09,480 --> 00:10:15,080 Speaker 5: that opportunity. It's funny you did your research. My it's 197 00:10:15,080 --> 00:10:17,360 Speaker 5: so funny that whole time when by so fast. I 198 00:10:17,480 --> 00:10:21,240 Speaker 5: barely remember it because we had a band, you know, 199 00:10:21,360 --> 00:10:23,679 Speaker 5: all through like middle school and high school and and 200 00:10:23,800 --> 00:10:25,840 Speaker 5: you know, we had a little little tiny bit of 201 00:10:25,840 --> 00:10:29,000 Speaker 5: buzz going, but you know, nothing really ended up coming 202 00:10:29,000 --> 00:10:31,960 Speaker 5: of it. And I put music down all through college 203 00:10:32,000 --> 00:10:35,160 Speaker 5: and everything. And and my brother Josh got a record 204 00:10:35,160 --> 00:10:39,199 Speaker 5: deal out of college and eventually moved to Nashville. 205 00:10:39,240 --> 00:10:41,360 Speaker 6: And he's the reason I gave this a shot. I 206 00:10:41,440 --> 00:10:42,280 Speaker 6: moved to Nashville. 207 00:10:43,559 --> 00:10:46,040 Speaker 5: You know, with with a ton of encouragement from him, 208 00:10:46,160 --> 00:10:48,080 Speaker 5: and and you know, it was lucky enough to run 209 00:10:48,120 --> 00:10:52,200 Speaker 5: into Hillary and and you know, taught my buddy David 210 00:10:52,200 --> 00:10:52,800 Speaker 5: to move in town. 211 00:10:52,920 --> 00:10:53,840 Speaker 6: We started this band. 212 00:10:53,920 --> 00:10:57,079 Speaker 5: But but yeah, those early years it was pretty cool. 213 00:10:57,120 --> 00:11:00,040 Speaker 5: I mean, we had this little five song EP and 214 00:11:00,040 --> 00:11:02,079 Speaker 5: and you know it was Inside Blue because we did 215 00:11:02,200 --> 00:11:04,520 Speaker 5: a little little bit of blues. We also, you know, 216 00:11:04,559 --> 00:11:08,040 Speaker 5: it was very much you know, rock and roll stuff too, 217 00:11:08,080 --> 00:11:10,160 Speaker 5: and so it was it was just it's funny that 218 00:11:10,240 --> 00:11:12,320 Speaker 5: anybody was interesting, because if you go back and listen 219 00:11:12,320 --> 00:11:14,160 Speaker 5: to those songs, they were they were pretty weak. 220 00:11:14,320 --> 00:11:15,800 Speaker 6: They must have seen something in us. 221 00:11:16,760 --> 00:11:21,040 Speaker 2: I guarantee they did. And look, everything starts as a 222 00:11:21,040 --> 00:11:24,280 Speaker 2: as a germ, and then of an idea, and then 223 00:11:24,320 --> 00:11:26,600 Speaker 2: it evolves and the passion flows. 224 00:11:26,640 --> 00:11:31,760 Speaker 3: So give yourself more credit back for Inside Blue for sure. 225 00:11:32,120 --> 00:11:32,360 Speaker 2: Now. 226 00:11:32,400 --> 00:11:35,120 Speaker 3: I have a friend that does this other podcast called 227 00:11:35,440 --> 00:11:37,840 Speaker 3: Celebrity jobb Or, and he asked the question, if you 228 00:11:37,920 --> 00:11:40,800 Speaker 3: weren't going to be a musician, what would you have been. 229 00:11:41,360 --> 00:11:43,120 Speaker 2: Did you have a Plan B or were you a 230 00:11:43,200 --> 00:11:44,280 Speaker 2: no Plan B? Guy? 231 00:11:44,679 --> 00:11:47,160 Speaker 6: No, I did. I mean I went to the University 232 00:11:47,160 --> 00:11:51,040 Speaker 6: of Georgia. I to me, music was was just going 233 00:11:51,120 --> 00:11:53,240 Speaker 6: to be something in my life and maybe a party trick. 234 00:11:53,280 --> 00:11:53,400 Speaker 2: You know. 235 00:11:53,440 --> 00:11:56,840 Speaker 5: I always kind of assumed I would have some you know, 236 00:11:56,920 --> 00:11:59,240 Speaker 5: like cover band on the weekends I would play with. 237 00:11:59,280 --> 00:12:02,480 Speaker 5: But I studied finance at Georgia and David and I 238 00:12:02,520 --> 00:12:05,200 Speaker 5: did too, Dave as well, and yeah, you know, I 239 00:12:05,240 --> 00:12:06,439 Speaker 5: was going to try to move. 240 00:12:06,280 --> 00:12:09,520 Speaker 6: To Atlanta, get a job, you know, do that whole thing. 241 00:12:09,559 --> 00:12:11,680 Speaker 5: And then you know, maybe if I went went to 242 00:12:11,720 --> 00:12:13,520 Speaker 5: a wedding on the weekend, i'd hop up with a 243 00:12:13,600 --> 00:12:15,680 Speaker 5: band and say, hey, guys, you know a little uh 244 00:12:15,800 --> 00:12:17,880 Speaker 5: line of Ritchie, you know, something like that, and that 245 00:12:17,920 --> 00:12:20,920 Speaker 5: would be kind of my party trick. But but so, yeah, 246 00:12:21,080 --> 00:12:24,360 Speaker 5: something in the business world, hopefully. But I will say 247 00:12:24,360 --> 00:12:26,400 Speaker 5: when I had graduated, I worked with my oldest brother 248 00:12:26,520 --> 00:12:29,880 Speaker 5: and and we were he was he like flipped houses 249 00:12:29,920 --> 00:12:33,040 Speaker 5: and did somewherecial real estate. So I had this degree 250 00:12:33,080 --> 00:12:36,400 Speaker 5: and I remember like literally a week after I graduate, 251 00:12:36,480 --> 00:12:39,800 Speaker 5: I go into work and and you know, he's like, well, 252 00:12:40,640 --> 00:12:42,560 Speaker 5: one of our workers didn't come in today, so you 253 00:12:42,600 --> 00:12:44,880 Speaker 5: gotta you gotta hop into the dump truck and. 254 00:12:45,240 --> 00:12:47,800 Speaker 6: Take this take this stuff to the to the dump. 255 00:12:47,800 --> 00:12:50,360 Speaker 6: And I just remember going like this is not what 256 00:12:50,440 --> 00:12:51,560 Speaker 6: I thought it was going to be. 257 00:12:54,880 --> 00:12:58,440 Speaker 3: Somehow you knew it triggered you exactly was that and 258 00:12:58,480 --> 00:13:00,200 Speaker 3: it was a motivating trigger. 259 00:13:00,559 --> 00:13:01,520 Speaker 6: It was, it was. 260 00:13:01,559 --> 00:13:05,160 Speaker 5: I mean, I think I could have found happiness in anything. 261 00:13:05,200 --> 00:13:07,480 Speaker 5: I mean, to me, I love I love putting in 262 00:13:07,520 --> 00:13:09,960 Speaker 5: a hard day's work. I mean, that's just I really do. 263 00:13:10,040 --> 00:13:12,040 Speaker 5: I mean, even to this day, there's something I just 264 00:13:12,160 --> 00:13:14,960 Speaker 5: love about, you know, about working hard. 265 00:13:14,960 --> 00:13:18,559 Speaker 6: I learned that from my dad. But to be able to. 266 00:13:18,480 --> 00:13:22,800 Speaker 5: Find something though that you actually, you know, wake up 267 00:13:22,840 --> 00:13:25,480 Speaker 5: and just feel like so lucky that you get to do. 268 00:13:25,559 --> 00:13:27,960 Speaker 5: And you know, a lot of times, especially being you know, 269 00:13:28,080 --> 00:13:31,240 Speaker 5: on stage and writing songs, it doesn't feel like work. 270 00:13:31,320 --> 00:13:33,240 Speaker 6: The work comes in when with the travel. 271 00:13:33,280 --> 00:13:36,040 Speaker 5: I feel like that's where that's where we earn the word, 272 00:13:36,120 --> 00:13:38,360 Speaker 5: you know, we work for a living. But the rest 273 00:13:38,400 --> 00:13:40,480 Speaker 5: of it, that's just all that's all fun. 274 00:13:40,280 --> 00:13:40,640 Speaker 2: All right. 275 00:13:40,679 --> 00:13:44,000 Speaker 3: So I do want to dig into the process for 276 00:13:44,160 --> 00:13:49,559 Speaker 3: songs for a New Moon and the work behind that process. 277 00:13:50,200 --> 00:13:52,280 Speaker 3: And I guess the first thing when I think of 278 00:13:52,679 --> 00:13:57,640 Speaker 3: writing sessions is that the type of thing when you're 279 00:13:57,679 --> 00:14:03,640 Speaker 3: in that process that you're nervous. Enthusiasm in a good 280 00:14:03,720 --> 00:14:05,760 Speaker 3: way keeps you up at night, because you know the 281 00:14:05,800 --> 00:14:08,000 Speaker 3: next morning you're waking up and you're going into a 282 00:14:08,040 --> 00:14:09,880 Speaker 3: session exactly. 283 00:14:10,120 --> 00:14:11,760 Speaker 5: I mean, I call it a lot of you know, 284 00:14:11,800 --> 00:14:14,880 Speaker 5: I had a lot of cautious optimism. I've been doing 285 00:14:14,880 --> 00:14:17,679 Speaker 5: this for you know, close to two decades now, and 286 00:14:17,720 --> 00:14:21,480 Speaker 5: I know it's just you know, you get so you 287 00:14:21,520 --> 00:14:24,120 Speaker 5: get so caught up and Okay, I want to make 288 00:14:24,160 --> 00:14:26,440 Speaker 5: something special that sometimes you have to just step back 289 00:14:26,520 --> 00:14:28,920 Speaker 5: and just do it. I feel like it's just literally 290 00:14:29,720 --> 00:14:32,400 Speaker 5: go in and if it's moving you, there's a good 291 00:14:32,520 --> 00:14:34,680 Speaker 5: chance that can move other people. I think any time 292 00:14:34,680 --> 00:14:36,280 Speaker 5: in the past when I've tried to go in there 293 00:14:36,320 --> 00:14:37,680 Speaker 5: and be like, all right, we got to write a 294 00:14:37,760 --> 00:14:40,160 Speaker 5: hit like this or whatever. And so I really try 295 00:14:40,160 --> 00:14:43,280 Speaker 5: to get out of my own way, honestly, and I 296 00:14:43,320 --> 00:14:46,480 Speaker 5: think to be able to start writing music under a 297 00:14:46,520 --> 00:14:50,280 Speaker 5: different betup music brought out something different in me. And 298 00:14:50,320 --> 00:14:52,040 Speaker 5: it was the most fun I've ever had. I mean, 299 00:14:52,040 --> 00:14:54,320 Speaker 5: I was writing with you know, guys like Josh here, 300 00:14:54,320 --> 00:14:56,080 Speaker 5: who wrote Needs You Now with. I mean, he's one 301 00:14:56,080 --> 00:14:58,760 Speaker 5: of the best songwriters in talent and he you know, 302 00:14:58,760 --> 00:15:00,240 Speaker 5: when you got a guy like that say and when 303 00:15:00,240 --> 00:15:02,040 Speaker 5: are we doing this again? This is so fresh because 304 00:15:02,080 --> 00:15:04,640 Speaker 5: I think everybody needed to be pulled out of their 305 00:15:04,640 --> 00:15:08,080 Speaker 5: box a little bit, you know, and this project allowed 306 00:15:08,120 --> 00:15:11,080 Speaker 5: them to kind of show how versatile they all are. 307 00:15:11,200 --> 00:15:14,760 Speaker 5: And and for me too, it brought out just this 308 00:15:14,840 --> 00:15:18,600 Speaker 5: new sense of like, Okay, there's no rules, you know, 309 00:15:19,000 --> 00:15:19,600 Speaker 5: I don't. 310 00:15:19,400 --> 00:15:20,760 Speaker 6: Have to make a country record. 311 00:15:20,760 --> 00:15:23,000 Speaker 5: I can go out here and try to do something 312 00:15:23,080 --> 00:15:23,960 Speaker 5: different and fresh. 313 00:15:24,040 --> 00:15:26,800 Speaker 6: Because, like you said, I am influenced by. 314 00:15:26,720 --> 00:15:29,840 Speaker 5: So many different styles, but I think the common thread 315 00:15:29,920 --> 00:15:33,040 Speaker 5: needed to be I needed to still sound authentically myself, 316 00:15:33,080 --> 00:15:35,760 Speaker 5: you know. I didn't try to put on some you know, 317 00:15:36,000 --> 00:15:39,760 Speaker 5: eighties voice that didn't sound like me or you know, 318 00:15:39,920 --> 00:15:41,680 Speaker 5: whatever whatever that might be. 319 00:15:41,760 --> 00:15:44,840 Speaker 6: You know, it still is my voice to the core. 320 00:15:45,400 --> 00:15:50,160 Speaker 5: And I don't know there was there was just I 321 00:15:50,160 --> 00:15:54,360 Speaker 5: don't know this like cool little hint of like, man, 322 00:15:55,120 --> 00:15:57,400 Speaker 5: I think we're onto something here, you know, and I 323 00:15:57,400 --> 00:16:00,240 Speaker 5: don't know where it'll go and what it'll be. And 324 00:16:00,280 --> 00:16:02,320 Speaker 5: there was a sense of wanting to make sure we 325 00:16:02,400 --> 00:16:05,600 Speaker 5: stayed precious with like staying there. And I think that's 326 00:16:05,640 --> 00:16:08,200 Speaker 5: one reason I wanted to release it myself and like 327 00:16:08,600 --> 00:16:10,480 Speaker 5: pay for it myself, because I was like, I know 328 00:16:10,600 --> 00:16:13,120 Speaker 5: exactly what's going to happen when I take this into 329 00:16:13,160 --> 00:16:16,160 Speaker 5: the label that you're gonna go. Okay, you've been known 330 00:16:16,200 --> 00:16:18,600 Speaker 5: as a country artist. We gotta throw some mandolin on this, 331 00:16:18,640 --> 00:16:20,880 Speaker 5: we gotta throw some steel guitar, and it just it 332 00:16:20,920 --> 00:16:23,880 Speaker 5: didn't feel like the music needed that. And so I 333 00:16:23,960 --> 00:16:26,240 Speaker 5: really have to give a lot of praise to to 334 00:16:26,480 --> 00:16:28,480 Speaker 5: Big Machine for allowing me to just do this on 335 00:16:28,480 --> 00:16:30,480 Speaker 5: my own as well, you know, I mean, I really 336 00:16:31,200 --> 00:16:34,960 Speaker 5: just felt like I wanted this to be, you know, 337 00:16:35,280 --> 00:16:39,880 Speaker 5: a success or failure on my own terms, if that 338 00:16:40,000 --> 00:16:40,560 Speaker 5: makes sense. 339 00:16:40,600 --> 00:16:43,200 Speaker 1: You know, We'll be right back with more of the 340 00:16:43,280 --> 00:16:51,080 Speaker 1: Taking a Walk Podcast. Welcome back to the Taking a 341 00:16:51,080 --> 00:16:51,960 Speaker 1: Walk Podcast. 342 00:16:52,400 --> 00:16:55,800 Speaker 3: So take us through some of your favorite tracks or 343 00:16:55,880 --> 00:16:57,320 Speaker 3: all of your favorite tracks. 344 00:16:57,320 --> 00:17:01,080 Speaker 2: We got time. Charles, ah God, I think. 345 00:17:00,960 --> 00:17:02,880 Speaker 5: I mean, the first song, Can't Lose You is what 346 00:17:03,000 --> 00:17:05,680 Speaker 5: really kicked off the project. I mean, there's something about 347 00:17:05,680 --> 00:17:07,879 Speaker 5: that song. I think it encompassed everything I wanted to 348 00:17:07,960 --> 00:17:11,720 Speaker 5: say as well. I you know, I'm getting close to it. 349 00:17:11,720 --> 00:17:14,960 Speaker 5: At the end of this month, I'll be three years sober. 350 00:17:15,000 --> 00:17:19,520 Speaker 5: And so there was just a lot of growth, you know, spiritually, 351 00:17:19,680 --> 00:17:23,000 Speaker 5: mentally and you know, with my relationship with my wife, 352 00:17:23,040 --> 00:17:25,040 Speaker 5: and I wanted to put that into the music, you know, 353 00:17:25,119 --> 00:17:27,639 Speaker 5: and I wanted to be it to be a joyful record, 354 00:17:27,800 --> 00:17:32,240 Speaker 5: you know, and feel really redemptive and positive. And so 355 00:17:32,480 --> 00:17:36,560 Speaker 5: I feel like that song encompassed kind of everything I 356 00:17:36,640 --> 00:17:38,800 Speaker 5: was going for. And then from there it was like 357 00:17:38,840 --> 00:17:41,240 Speaker 5: once I we had that song, the rest just kind 358 00:17:41,240 --> 00:17:44,640 Speaker 5: of really came out really easily. I mean, I think 359 00:17:44,680 --> 00:17:47,359 Speaker 5: my one of my favorites is a song called Can't 360 00:17:47,400 --> 00:17:50,840 Speaker 5: Be Alone Tonight. There's just something about it that it 361 00:17:51,080 --> 00:17:55,239 Speaker 5: reminds me of all those great eighties like ballads that 362 00:17:55,440 --> 00:17:58,600 Speaker 5: just feel great. There's also a song called never Let 363 00:17:58,640 --> 00:18:01,960 Speaker 5: You Go. He got the great Dan Huff, so he's 364 00:18:02,400 --> 00:18:05,480 Speaker 5: also a great producer. But he used to play electric 365 00:18:05,520 --> 00:18:10,439 Speaker 5: guitar on all those massive eighties and nineties hits that 366 00:18:10,520 --> 00:18:13,080 Speaker 5: you've almost anything you've ever heard him. He's played with 367 00:18:13,119 --> 00:18:16,919 Speaker 5: Michael Jackson, Journey, I mean, all these crazy bands you know, 368 00:18:16,960 --> 00:18:20,600 Speaker 5: in the studio, and to have him. If you listen 369 00:18:20,640 --> 00:18:22,320 Speaker 5: to that song, I think it's the tenth track off 370 00:18:22,320 --> 00:18:27,280 Speaker 5: the record, there's just this epic electric guitar tone and 371 00:18:28,080 --> 00:18:31,159 Speaker 5: solo section that he has that just I don't know, 372 00:18:31,200 --> 00:18:32,800 Speaker 5: there's something about it where I was like, that's what 373 00:18:32,840 --> 00:18:34,800 Speaker 5: I was going for. It has a key change, it 374 00:18:34,880 --> 00:18:38,359 Speaker 5: has the electric guitar sound that only Dan could do. 375 00:18:39,080 --> 00:18:41,119 Speaker 5: So there's a lot of those moments throughout the record, 376 00:18:41,160 --> 00:18:44,800 Speaker 5: but I will say it changes which you know, which 377 00:18:44,800 --> 00:18:45,679 Speaker 5: one is my favorite? 378 00:18:46,000 --> 00:18:48,520 Speaker 3: I would expect it would, right because for a while, 379 00:18:48,600 --> 00:18:52,080 Speaker 3: you're you're living with it for so long and in 380 00:18:52,119 --> 00:18:54,960 Speaker 3: your mind you're going through the hard work that led 381 00:18:55,080 --> 00:18:58,640 Speaker 3: up to the creation. So when you're in the studio 382 00:18:59,119 --> 00:19:02,440 Speaker 3: and working on this and then you leave for the day, 383 00:19:02,880 --> 00:19:05,919 Speaker 3: do you leave with tracks that you can listen to 384 00:19:06,119 --> 00:19:10,000 Speaker 3: as you're driving driving home to kind of like think 385 00:19:10,040 --> 00:19:10,480 Speaker 3: about it. 386 00:19:10,520 --> 00:19:13,560 Speaker 5: Dude, and that that makes it exciting, you know. That's 387 00:19:13,600 --> 00:19:16,080 Speaker 5: the great thing about you know, this whole record. I 388 00:19:16,119 --> 00:19:20,000 Speaker 5: worked with Lindsay Rheims and another guy named Sam Ellis 389 00:19:19,840 --> 00:19:23,080 Speaker 5: and you know, being able to actually you know, they 390 00:19:23,160 --> 00:19:25,399 Speaker 5: programmed most of this stuff. So what we would do 391 00:19:25,560 --> 00:19:29,600 Speaker 5: is we'd have pretty fully fleshed out, professional sounding demo 392 00:19:30,160 --> 00:19:33,360 Speaker 5: and then you know, we would go and harvest out. 393 00:19:33,400 --> 00:19:34,800 Speaker 5: We had like a drum day where we went this 394 00:19:34,880 --> 00:19:37,080 Speaker 5: guy here in Stirling and then laid real drums on it, 395 00:19:37,200 --> 00:19:39,920 Speaker 5: or we go, you know, lay bass. If we didn't 396 00:19:39,960 --> 00:19:42,040 Speaker 5: like the way that that one of them played the bass. 397 00:19:43,000 --> 00:19:44,800 Speaker 5: You know, we had a saxophone player come in or 398 00:19:44,840 --> 00:19:47,200 Speaker 5: something like that. But we when we would leave each day, 399 00:19:47,240 --> 00:19:52,320 Speaker 5: we would have a pretty solid foundation and feel for 400 00:19:52,440 --> 00:19:53,440 Speaker 5: what we were going for. 401 00:19:54,720 --> 00:19:57,320 Speaker 3: And then when you walk in the next day, then 402 00:19:57,520 --> 00:20:02,840 Speaker 3: you've got like the ability to what you want to tweak, right, Yeah, So. 403 00:20:02,800 --> 00:20:04,800 Speaker 5: We would leave there, we would have pretty much a 404 00:20:05,440 --> 00:20:07,919 Speaker 5: you know, a full form of a song, and we 405 00:20:07,920 --> 00:20:09,840 Speaker 5: were even able to, like sometimes we come back in 406 00:20:09,840 --> 00:20:12,280 Speaker 5: tweak lyrics. If we got to live with him, we're like, Okay, 407 00:20:12,320 --> 00:20:14,480 Speaker 5: I don't like the way this hook is turning and flipping. 408 00:20:15,040 --> 00:20:17,399 Speaker 5: But you know, that's the difference I will say in 409 00:20:17,480 --> 00:20:21,160 Speaker 5: how a lot of people right now than we did 410 00:20:21,160 --> 00:20:22,760 Speaker 5: when I first started. You know, we used to go 411 00:20:22,800 --> 00:20:26,040 Speaker 5: in there with an acoustic guitar. It sometimes you couldn't 412 00:20:26,119 --> 00:20:27,600 Speaker 5: quite tell what it was going to be. 413 00:20:28,200 --> 00:20:29,000 Speaker 6: I mean, need you now. 414 00:20:29,040 --> 00:20:30,879 Speaker 5: As one of those examples, I remember we had this 415 00:20:30,920 --> 00:20:35,440 Speaker 5: little acoustic, really rough sounding recording off of our computer, 416 00:20:36,440 --> 00:20:38,800 Speaker 5: and you know, we almost didn't cut the song because 417 00:20:38,800 --> 00:20:41,160 Speaker 5: it didn't sound as big as like the other demos 418 00:20:41,200 --> 00:20:43,919 Speaker 5: we had. And so you know, to be able to 419 00:20:43,960 --> 00:20:47,840 Speaker 5: like now really get an idea of how the song 420 00:20:47,960 --> 00:20:51,119 Speaker 5: is going to sound when you leave. It's a big 421 00:20:51,280 --> 00:20:54,080 Speaker 5: you know. It's just such a nice advantage to the 422 00:20:54,119 --> 00:20:55,120 Speaker 5: writing process. 423 00:20:55,560 --> 00:21:00,560 Speaker 3: Charles, What is recovery taught you that kind of leads 424 00:21:00,600 --> 00:21:02,640 Speaker 3: into your musical process? 425 00:21:04,040 --> 00:21:04,359 Speaker 6: Oh? 426 00:21:04,400 --> 00:21:08,119 Speaker 5: Man, I think gratitude more than anything, I think, you know, 427 00:21:08,480 --> 00:21:10,160 Speaker 5: I think I was hold on to a lot of fear, 428 00:21:10,400 --> 00:21:11,399 Speaker 5: you know, fear of. 429 00:21:12,880 --> 00:21:13,560 Speaker 6: A lot of stuff. 430 00:21:13,560 --> 00:21:17,239 Speaker 5: I mean, fear of losing success, fear of, like of 431 00:21:17,320 --> 00:21:19,719 Speaker 5: so many things I didn't even know that I was 432 00:21:19,960 --> 00:21:21,639 Speaker 5: kind of fearful of, you know, and you kind of 433 00:21:21,720 --> 00:21:24,159 Speaker 5: drink to kind of calm all that down. But I 434 00:21:24,240 --> 00:21:26,920 Speaker 5: just think it brought a sense of gratitude of like 435 00:21:27,000 --> 00:21:29,919 Speaker 5: where what I have and how much you know, I 436 00:21:30,000 --> 00:21:32,280 Speaker 5: don't I don't want to lose this, and how much 437 00:21:32,440 --> 00:21:34,879 Speaker 5: I just love it. And I think it also just 438 00:21:34,880 --> 00:21:36,840 Speaker 5: made me enjoy the quiet moments of life. 439 00:21:37,119 --> 00:21:37,359 Speaker 6: You know. 440 00:21:37,920 --> 00:21:40,840 Speaker 5: I'm into so many different things. I mean, A small 441 00:21:40,880 --> 00:21:42,840 Speaker 5: thing that I just love now that I used to 442 00:21:42,880 --> 00:21:44,879 Speaker 5: never do is read. I mean, I've probably read a 443 00:21:45,000 --> 00:21:47,480 Speaker 5: hundred books since I've you know, gotten sober, and like, 444 00:21:47,960 --> 00:21:48,679 Speaker 5: I feel. 445 00:21:48,400 --> 00:21:50,280 Speaker 6: Like my mind's expanding a little bit. 446 00:21:50,359 --> 00:21:53,720 Speaker 5: I feel like I'm calming down and I'm just I'm 447 00:21:53,800 --> 00:21:55,959 Speaker 5: realizing that some of the best things happened to when 448 00:21:56,000 --> 00:21:58,480 Speaker 5: you get out of your own way, and you know, 449 00:21:58,480 --> 00:22:00,239 Speaker 5: I feel like I really tried to do that with 450 00:22:00,280 --> 00:22:03,320 Speaker 5: this record, and like, I don't know, I'm just kind 451 00:22:03,320 --> 00:22:06,560 Speaker 5: of really just enjoying enjoying the journey of it. I mean, 452 00:22:06,640 --> 00:22:08,560 Speaker 5: all the ups and downs are such a big part 453 00:22:08,560 --> 00:22:11,399 Speaker 5: of what makes life kind of fun, you know, and 454 00:22:11,520 --> 00:22:15,200 Speaker 5: celebrating the little winds that come along and uh, but really, 455 00:22:15,240 --> 00:22:16,800 Speaker 5: I just I think it gave me a little bit 456 00:22:16,840 --> 00:22:19,720 Speaker 5: more of a purpose to life and what I was 457 00:22:19,760 --> 00:22:22,359 Speaker 5: going for. I used to live and die by the 458 00:22:22,440 --> 00:22:25,560 Speaker 5: music business and successes and failures, and now I just 459 00:22:25,880 --> 00:22:30,000 Speaker 5: I realized that, like it, it's not the end all 460 00:22:30,040 --> 00:22:32,679 Speaker 5: be all, you know, and it should be fun. And 461 00:22:32,720 --> 00:22:35,080 Speaker 5: I feel like I'm enjoying it again in a way 462 00:22:35,720 --> 00:22:37,640 Speaker 5: that I kind of did when I first started, because 463 00:22:37,840 --> 00:22:39,520 Speaker 5: I think when you don't know what's going to happen, 464 00:22:39,600 --> 00:22:42,399 Speaker 5: you just you do celebrate any tiny little wind that 465 00:22:42,440 --> 00:22:46,840 Speaker 5: you get. And once you've had success, well then you 466 00:22:46,920 --> 00:22:49,440 Speaker 5: have a bar of that what what you think everything 467 00:22:49,480 --> 00:22:50,680 Speaker 5: should reach for it. 468 00:22:50,600 --> 00:22:52,879 Speaker 6: To be quote unquote a success. 469 00:22:53,119 --> 00:22:55,639 Speaker 5: And you know, especially the song that needs you now 470 00:22:55,640 --> 00:22:58,720 Speaker 5: it's like, well, that's going to come along once in 471 00:22:58,720 --> 00:22:59,240 Speaker 5: a lifetime. 472 00:22:59,280 --> 00:23:01,359 Speaker 6: Like so if that that's my bar, I'm never going 473 00:23:01,440 --> 00:23:03,359 Speaker 6: to be happy, you know very well. 474 00:23:03,400 --> 00:23:08,399 Speaker 3: Put, do you get nervous before you're presenting to I 475 00:23:08,400 --> 00:23:10,720 Speaker 3: don't know, like a scop worshitto or something like that. 476 00:23:11,280 --> 00:23:13,359 Speaker 6: Always, I mean always you're a little nervous. 477 00:23:13,400 --> 00:23:17,119 Speaker 5: I mean, I think there's nothing more heartbreaking sometimes for 478 00:23:17,160 --> 00:23:19,720 Speaker 5: an artist when you play something for your management or 479 00:23:19,800 --> 00:23:22,600 Speaker 5: label or friends even and they're. 480 00:23:22,440 --> 00:23:24,160 Speaker 6: Just like, yeah, that's nice. 481 00:23:24,160 --> 00:23:26,080 Speaker 5: I like that, and you're like, shoot, that was not 482 00:23:26,160 --> 00:23:28,520 Speaker 5: the expectation or it was not the response I wanted. 483 00:23:29,160 --> 00:23:32,680 Speaker 5: But but I just again just you know, I think 484 00:23:32,720 --> 00:23:35,600 Speaker 5: for this, I just knew I was digging it so 485 00:23:35,720 --> 00:23:37,560 Speaker 5: much and I was enjoying it that I was like, 486 00:23:38,200 --> 00:23:40,400 Speaker 5: no matter what anybody says, like, I've got to do this, 487 00:23:41,080 --> 00:23:44,480 Speaker 5: and I don't know, just for everybody or on my 488 00:23:44,560 --> 00:23:47,760 Speaker 5: team to kind of follow me down this journey. But 489 00:23:47,800 --> 00:23:49,920 Speaker 5: I got a lot of encouragement, I mean early, right 490 00:23:49,960 --> 00:23:52,080 Speaker 5: from the get go, Like when when you know my 491 00:23:52,160 --> 00:23:55,120 Speaker 5: team heard Can't Lose You and another song called Run, 492 00:23:55,160 --> 00:23:58,479 Speaker 5: they were like this, whatever this is, keep doing it. 493 00:23:58,560 --> 00:24:00,680 Speaker 5: And so I did get a whole lot of encouragement. 494 00:24:00,720 --> 00:24:04,000 Speaker 5: My wife was really big with that too, just kept 495 00:24:04,080 --> 00:24:07,160 Speaker 5: saying like this is you're onto something. Just keep going 496 00:24:07,200 --> 00:24:09,879 Speaker 5: down this road, don't put a timeline on it, and 497 00:24:09,880 --> 00:24:10,600 Speaker 5: see where it goes. 498 00:24:10,640 --> 00:24:10,840 Speaker 6: You know. 499 00:24:11,160 --> 00:24:15,320 Speaker 3: So a new album, growing family, fresh outfit. What are 500 00:24:15,400 --> 00:24:18,520 Speaker 3: you most excited about as far as the next chapter? 501 00:24:19,680 --> 00:24:22,640 Speaker 5: Oh gosh, I just it just it's fun to see 502 00:24:22,640 --> 00:24:25,639 Speaker 5: people respond to something in a fresh way, you know. 503 00:24:25,720 --> 00:24:28,840 Speaker 5: I think that's what makes putting this out solo kind 504 00:24:28,840 --> 00:24:31,520 Speaker 5: of fun too, because I am a new artist in 505 00:24:31,560 --> 00:24:33,480 Speaker 5: a way, you know. I mean I put a solo 506 00:24:33,560 --> 00:24:35,720 Speaker 5: record out, you know, about eight or nine years ago, 507 00:24:35,760 --> 00:24:40,239 Speaker 5: but you know, it's still a fresh introduction in a 508 00:24:40,280 --> 00:24:42,879 Speaker 5: new sound, and so there's there's, you know, a certain 509 00:24:42,960 --> 00:24:49,560 Speaker 5: vulnerability and like healthy kind of anxiety about what's what 510 00:24:49,600 --> 00:24:50,400 Speaker 5: it's going to do. 511 00:24:50,520 --> 00:24:52,520 Speaker 6: And I think that actually makes it kind of fun. 512 00:24:53,200 --> 00:24:54,240 Speaker 6: I'm allowed to fail. 513 00:24:54,320 --> 00:24:57,040 Speaker 5: It's okay, It's it's a little more scary when Lady 514 00:24:57,040 --> 00:24:59,240 Speaker 5: A fails, you know, a project comes out fails, But 515 00:24:59,280 --> 00:25:02,080 Speaker 5: when I fails, like, okay, cool, it was something fun anyway. 516 00:25:02,200 --> 00:25:04,159 Speaker 5: So you know, I can always kind of play it 517 00:25:04,160 --> 00:25:07,520 Speaker 5: off that uh that you know, I didn't I didn't care. 518 00:25:07,440 --> 00:25:09,600 Speaker 6: If it went back, obviously I do. I think any 519 00:25:09,680 --> 00:25:11,160 Speaker 6: artist wants it to be heard. 520 00:25:11,320 --> 00:25:13,919 Speaker 5: I mean, you know, I'm not looking for this to 521 00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:18,800 Speaker 5: be some giant, you know, Sabrina Carpenter global smash. But 522 00:25:19,040 --> 00:25:22,359 Speaker 5: I tell you, if it could reach reach a really 523 00:25:22,359 --> 00:25:24,680 Speaker 5: great audience and I was able to actually go out 524 00:25:24,680 --> 00:25:26,800 Speaker 5: and do some shows, you know, and have a have 525 00:25:26,880 --> 00:25:29,480 Speaker 5: a you know, have a have a packed house somewhere, 526 00:25:29,480 --> 00:25:31,520 Speaker 5: and be able to actually perform these songs, I think 527 00:25:31,560 --> 00:25:34,240 Speaker 5: that's what gets me the most excited, because it's such 528 00:25:34,280 --> 00:25:38,040 Speaker 5: a fun bed of music that even when I was 529 00:25:38,080 --> 00:25:40,920 Speaker 5: just rehearsing with the guys, you know, we did some 530 00:25:40,960 --> 00:25:44,760 Speaker 5: content of just kind of a live show of some 531 00:25:44,800 --> 00:25:48,600 Speaker 5: of these songs that we're gonna, you know, share online, I. 532 00:25:48,520 --> 00:25:49,560 Speaker 6: Couldn't stop dancing. 533 00:25:49,600 --> 00:25:53,639 Speaker 5: I was like, I've never like moved like this, and 534 00:25:53,680 --> 00:25:56,000 Speaker 5: I'm sure I look ridiculous, but I can't help myself. 535 00:25:56,040 --> 00:25:57,520 Speaker 5: I was like, I can't help but move when I 536 00:25:57,520 --> 00:26:00,639 Speaker 5: sang this music. So I think it would just be 537 00:26:00,680 --> 00:26:03,560 Speaker 5: a very joyful show, you know. So I'm hoping that 538 00:26:03,720 --> 00:26:05,679 Speaker 5: can can come about at some point. 539 00:26:05,960 --> 00:26:09,040 Speaker 3: On closing, if you could go back and give advice 540 00:26:09,119 --> 00:26:12,359 Speaker 3: to your younger self, maybe that fourteen year old writing 541 00:26:12,440 --> 00:26:13,760 Speaker 3: songs with Dave. 542 00:26:14,160 --> 00:26:17,560 Speaker 5: What would you say, Oh gosh, Well, first off, I'd say, 543 00:26:17,640 --> 00:26:22,199 Speaker 5: learn how to play piano. That you know, that was 544 00:26:22,560 --> 00:26:26,359 Speaker 5: That's one thing. If I could go to Eddie young 545 00:26:26,560 --> 00:26:28,399 Speaker 5: kid and be like, learn how to play piano. I 546 00:26:28,400 --> 00:26:30,119 Speaker 5: can play guitar, and I used to. I grew up 547 00:26:30,119 --> 00:26:32,320 Speaker 5: playing drums. That was my instrument in the band. I 548 00:26:32,320 --> 00:26:35,399 Speaker 5: played drums and sing But I wish I could have 549 00:26:35,440 --> 00:26:37,000 Speaker 5: played I wish I could play piano. 550 00:26:37,080 --> 00:26:38,000 Speaker 6: I feel like I would. 551 00:26:38,880 --> 00:26:40,720 Speaker 5: I would have written a heck of a lot more songs, 552 00:26:40,800 --> 00:26:43,080 Speaker 5: you know, if I was able to do that. But 553 00:26:43,920 --> 00:26:46,880 Speaker 5: I think the advice would just be just enjoy the journey. 554 00:26:47,000 --> 00:26:49,080 Speaker 5: I mean, I think at the beginning, you know, the 555 00:26:49,119 --> 00:26:51,320 Speaker 5: first ten years, it was so much fun. And in 556 00:26:51,359 --> 00:26:53,960 Speaker 5: the middle of that career it kind of got where 557 00:26:53,960 --> 00:26:55,960 Speaker 5: I was not enjoying it, and I think you have 558 00:26:56,040 --> 00:26:57,879 Speaker 5: to love it, you have to enjoy it, and you 559 00:26:57,960 --> 00:27:01,760 Speaker 5: have to just, I don't know, sometimes just sort of 560 00:27:01,920 --> 00:27:04,440 Speaker 5: remind yourself that you get to do what you love 561 00:27:04,480 --> 00:27:05,960 Speaker 5: to do. So I think that would be the thing 562 00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:10,480 Speaker 5: I would love to have told myself early on. Well 563 00:27:10,520 --> 00:27:12,600 Speaker 5: also too, just you never know where life's going to go. 564 00:27:12,760 --> 00:27:15,159 Speaker 5: I mean, my fourteen year old self would have never 565 00:27:15,240 --> 00:27:17,000 Speaker 5: dreamed I was actually going to do this for a living. 566 00:27:18,119 --> 00:27:22,480 Speaker 3: You know, Charles, this is why I love what I do. 567 00:27:22,680 --> 00:27:25,199 Speaker 3: I'm so grateful for the opportunity. 568 00:27:24,560 --> 00:27:25,080 Speaker 2: To talk to you. 569 00:27:25,200 --> 00:27:28,919 Speaker 3: Congratulations on this chapter Songs for a New Moon, and 570 00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:31,959 Speaker 3: thanks for all the great music you continue to give us. 571 00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:34,320 Speaker 6: My friend, Thank you, Boss, Appreciate you, buddy. 572 00:27:35,640 --> 00:27:38,080 Speaker 1: Thanks for listening to this episode of the Taking a 573 00:27:38,119 --> 00:27:42,040 Speaker 1: Walk podcast. 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