WEBVTT - Bengals Booth Podcast: Something's Coming 0:00:03.480 --> 0:00:06.239 I get everybody. I'm Dan Horde and thanks for downloading 0:00:06.280 --> 0:00:11.399 the Bengals Booth podcast. The could it be as it could? 0:00:11.680 --> 0:00:17.400 Something's come in, something good if I can wait. Addition, 0:00:17.840 --> 0:00:19.960 as we gear up for the start of the regular 0:00:19.960 --> 0:00:23.119 season coming up a week from Sunday against Mike Zimmer's 0:00:23.160 --> 0:00:26.840 Minnesota Vikings. Coming up on the pod, Dave Lapham joins 0:00:26.840 --> 0:00:30.200 me to answer the ask lap questions that you submitted 0:00:30.280 --> 0:00:34.880 on Twitter. Then I'll quiz the coordinators. Not with x's 0:00:34.920 --> 0:00:37.400 and oh's, we do plenty of that, but I've got 0:00:37.479 --> 0:00:41.040 a few offbeat questions for Brian Callahan, lou Ana Rumo, 0:00:41.240 --> 0:00:44.959 and Darren Simmons. 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The 0:01:04.840 --> 0:01:07.919 eighth rank UC Bearcats open the season on Saturday against 0:01:07.920 --> 0:01:11.560 the Miami RedHawks in the one hundred twenty fifth Battle 0:01:11.680 --> 0:01:14.679 for the Victory Bell They've been playing for the right 0:01:14.720 --> 0:01:17.760 to hold on to the bell since the eighteen nineties. 0:01:18.240 --> 0:01:20.800 One side of the bell is painted black with white 0:01:20.880 --> 0:01:24.839 numbers showing Cincinnati's victories, while the other side is white 0:01:25.000 --> 0:01:29.400 with red numbers showing Miami's victories. It's a cool tradition 0:01:29.520 --> 0:01:33.160 and one of many like it in college football. TCU 0:01:33.240 --> 0:01:37.560 and SMU battle for the Iron Skillet, Minnesota and Michigan 0:01:37.600 --> 0:01:40.600 compete for the Little Brown jug and Mississippi State and 0:01:40.680 --> 0:01:44.479 Ole miss duke it out for the Golden Egg. It's 0:01:44.520 --> 0:01:48.080 part of the fun of college football. Now, let's get 0:01:48.080 --> 0:01:50.840 to my conversation with Dave Lapham, including a bunch of 0:01:50.960 --> 0:01:55.960 ask lap questions that you've submitted on Twitter. Were there 0:01:56.000 --> 0:02:00.440 any roster moves that you found surprising or particularly interesting? 0:02:00.920 --> 0:02:06.280 Nothing that was, you know, really surprising. Obviously, there was 0:02:06.320 --> 0:02:10.160 an indication during the course of training camp to Michael 0:02:10.240 --> 0:02:13.480 Jordan was having some consistency issues, which you know, had 0:02:13.560 --> 0:02:16.440 kind of plagued him throughout his career. Really, I mean, 0:02:17.600 --> 0:02:21.639 you see snaps where it's like, wow, big strong can 0:02:21.720 --> 0:02:24.720 come off the ball, can move people and be a 0:02:24.760 --> 0:02:27.560 real factor, and then there'd be snaps it'd be like 0:02:27.600 --> 0:02:30.200 where did that come from kind of thing, so that 0:02:31.400 --> 0:02:35.560 that North and South Pole inconsistency is is something that 0:02:35.760 --> 0:02:38.360 coaches are fearful of. You know, you don't know what 0:02:38.400 --> 0:02:41.160 you're going to get. So I think the biggest thing 0:02:41.440 --> 0:02:46.000 that coaches look for is is intelligence and then you know, 0:02:46.000 --> 0:02:48.000 know what to expect out of a player on a 0:02:48.000 --> 0:02:51.440 snap by snap basis, And in a couple of cases 0:02:51.480 --> 0:02:55.000 that was probably a factor in the elimination of you know, 0:02:55.040 --> 0:02:57.880 of them making the fifty three man roster. The biggest 0:02:57.880 --> 0:03:00.400 surprise to me was the absence of Trenton Or. I 0:03:00.440 --> 0:03:02.520 thought he was a slam dunk locke to be on 0:03:02.560 --> 0:03:04.359 the fifty three man roster. I thought he was the 0:03:04.440 --> 0:03:07.880 number five wide receiver. As we do this recording, there's 0:03:07.919 --> 0:03:10.640 a spot available on the practice squad. It might go 0:03:10.720 --> 0:03:12.840 to him if he clears waivers. It sounds like that's 0:03:12.840 --> 0:03:16.480 a possibility. But man, I thought he was good to 0:03:16.639 --> 0:03:19.560 go on the fifty three. Yeah. I think it's the 0:03:19.639 --> 0:03:23.440 special teams, you know, aspect is so important. Stanley Morgan 0:03:23.680 --> 0:03:26.400 is such a huge factor on special teams. Mike Thomas 0:03:26.520 --> 0:03:29.799 is such a huge factor on special teams that when 0:03:29.800 --> 0:03:32.000 you get down to that that number you know the 0:03:32.720 --> 0:03:35.440 five six seven, however many you're going to keep wide 0:03:35.440 --> 0:03:39.200 receivers that it's a combination of how many snaps you're 0:03:39.240 --> 0:03:41.720 gonna get from a player, not only at the line 0:03:41.720 --> 0:03:45.800 of scrimmage offensively or defensively, but at in special team snaps, 0:03:45.840 --> 0:03:48.880 and who gives you the largest total. And that's where 0:03:49.040 --> 0:03:51.320 you know, I guess he slid. Obviously, it'll slid down 0:03:51.360 --> 0:03:54.680 the total pole a little bit because Stanley Morgan and 0:03:55.040 --> 0:03:58.360 Mike Thomas or their core special teams guys for Darren. 0:03:58.480 --> 0:04:02.560 So it comes a big part of that evaluation process 0:04:02.600 --> 0:04:06.120 for sure. All Right, let's get to some ask Lap 0:04:06.240 --> 0:04:09.360 questions that were submitted by fans. Question number one comes 0:04:09.360 --> 0:04:12.880 from somebody named Trey Oddly enough, his questions about Trey 0:04:12.880 --> 0:04:16.919 Wayne's His question is, is Trey Wayne's third year of 0:04:16.960 --> 0:04:21.080 his contract a player or team option? And do you 0:04:21.160 --> 0:04:25.240 sense any frustration within the organization regarding his availability for 0:04:25.279 --> 0:04:28.120 the past two years. I can answer the first part. 0:04:28.160 --> 0:04:30.440 There isn't a player or a team option. It was 0:04:30.480 --> 0:04:33.279 a three year deal, however, structured in such a way 0:04:33.560 --> 0:04:35.320 that they could get out of it at the end 0:04:35.360 --> 0:04:38.120 of this year with minimal cap damage. It would be 0:04:38.160 --> 0:04:41.839 five million in dead cap money, So if things don't 0:04:41.880 --> 0:04:44.560 work out at some point this year, they could move 0:04:44.600 --> 0:04:46.360 on at the end of the season. Now on to 0:04:46.440 --> 0:04:49.920 the second part of the question, do you sense any frustration? Yeah, 0:04:49.960 --> 0:04:53.359 that's going to be a big factor in the evaluation process. 0:04:53.400 --> 0:04:55.719 I think of do they get out of it or 0:04:55.760 --> 0:05:00.120 do they go for another year. It's unbelievable how and 0:05:00.160 --> 0:05:03.680 he's been with respect to injury, it's it's it's amazing. 0:05:04.000 --> 0:05:06.840 I think you'd have to dig really hard to try 0:05:06.880 --> 0:05:10.200 to find a player that has been compensated at a 0:05:10.279 --> 0:05:13.040 higher level for fewer snaps. I mean, I don't think 0:05:13.040 --> 0:05:15.560 there is one. I think he may be the most 0:05:15.600 --> 0:05:18.640 in team history. And you know a lot of that. 0:05:18.720 --> 0:05:20.800 Bryant and a wide receiver a few years back. I 0:05:20.839 --> 0:05:22.280 know they paid a lot of money and he never 0:05:22.320 --> 0:05:24.680 played a snap. He never even really got through a 0:05:24.680 --> 0:05:28.520 training camp. Um. But that's that's the variable that you 0:05:28.520 --> 0:05:30.840 you have no control over as a player or an 0:05:30.960 --> 0:05:35.560 organization is the injury factor. And man, a once a 0:05:35.600 --> 0:05:39.280 guy seems to be hit by it, it's like how 0:05:39.279 --> 0:05:40.840 do you how do you work your way out of it? 0:05:41.560 --> 0:05:43.599 And then there are cases where we're going to be 0:05:43.680 --> 0:05:45.520 injured for a couple of years and go on and 0:05:45.560 --> 0:05:47.520 have a great career. So what are you looking at? 0:05:47.640 --> 0:05:50.320 You just don't know. Uh, if you had a crystal ball, 0:05:50.400 --> 0:05:52.640 that would be great. I guess it's going to be 0:05:52.720 --> 0:05:55.039 interesting how it turns out. First and foremost, even for 0:05:55.080 --> 0:05:57.599 this year. I mean, he's he's got a hamstring issue, 0:05:58.320 --> 0:06:02.039 he said, both hamstrings that have acted up on him 0:06:02.400 --> 0:06:06.400 in hand. Sometimes when no start, they linger and they 0:06:06.520 --> 0:06:09.400 nag and they nag away. Will he be able to 0:06:09.680 --> 0:06:12.239 get healthy and then go out and just play and play, 0:06:12.800 --> 0:06:16.960 you know, fourteen games of the seventeen game season potentially, 0:06:17.000 --> 0:06:19.119 and then then you'll be in a in a different 0:06:19.160 --> 0:06:21.600 evaluation mode obviously than you are right now, because right 0:06:21.600 --> 0:06:24.320 now you don't know what he can do at this 0:06:24.360 --> 0:06:26.960 stage of the relationship. You don't know what he can 0:06:26.960 --> 0:06:30.719 do other than rehab, you know, rehab from surgery, rehab 0:06:30.800 --> 0:06:34.880 from hamstring issues. That's that's all you've been able to 0:06:34.920 --> 0:06:39.480 determine other than that. It's so the level of frustration 0:06:39.839 --> 0:06:42.320 has to be high, not just for the organization, for 0:06:42.400 --> 0:06:45.760 him too. I mean, he's not happy about it. And 0:06:45.800 --> 0:06:48.600 there's no two ways a guy hopes to be injured 0:06:48.839 --> 0:06:51.600 as much as Trey Wayne's has been injured, there's absolutely 0:06:51.680 --> 0:06:54.640 no way in hell. And I thought he looked like 0:06:55.279 --> 0:06:57.240 the guy that they were hoping he would be in 0:06:57.320 --> 0:07:01.440 training camp. He and A Wougier were both performing very 0:07:01.440 --> 0:07:05.240 well at practice. I agree, he's long, he's got some strength, 0:07:06.160 --> 0:07:10.160 he's got you know, athletic ability, he can change direction. 0:07:10.280 --> 0:07:13.720 I think he's a I think he's a solid, a 0:07:13.760 --> 0:07:18.240 solid guy at the cornerback position. But again, when when 0:07:18.320 --> 0:07:19.960 will he be able to line up there on a 0:07:19.960 --> 0:07:23.440 consistent basis and show those abilities on a snap by 0:07:23.520 --> 0:07:27.240 snap by snap basis. Question number two comes from Alexander. 0:07:27.320 --> 0:07:31.559 Are the losses of Osi sample and Wayne's a big 0:07:31.640 --> 0:07:36.560 problem that hasn't really been fixed. I think I think 0:07:36.600 --> 0:07:39.360 the edge rush position is still If I had to 0:07:39.360 --> 0:07:41.840 pick a weakness on the roster, that that that's it, 0:07:42.200 --> 0:07:45.720 and they're still trying to address it. There's no doubt 0:07:45.720 --> 0:07:48.960 in my mind that when they traded for b. J. Hill, 0:07:49.000 --> 0:07:51.240 they were trying to find a defensive end and couldn't 0:07:51.280 --> 0:07:54.920 put a deal together. And even you know, fourth and 0:07:55.000 --> 0:07:59.640 fifth defensive ends have value, so couldn't come to an agreement. 0:08:00.120 --> 0:08:03.640 If there were any inkling of an agreement happening at 0:08:03.640 --> 0:08:07.960 the defensive end position. There was a trade at front 0:08:08.040 --> 0:08:11.040 for a defensive end before the Bengals did trade for 0:08:11.040 --> 0:08:13.840 for bj Hill, So I thought, well, you know the league, 0:08:13.840 --> 0:08:18.480 there has been a trade consummated and documented here, maybe 0:08:18.480 --> 0:08:20.480 the Bengals will be able to follow suit, but couldn't 0:08:20.520 --> 0:08:23.440 quite put it together. So they're still looking, you know, 0:08:23.560 --> 0:08:27.680 still bringing guys in off the waiver wire. Guys are 0:08:28.320 --> 0:08:31.120 here and and cut and brought back to the practice 0:08:31.120 --> 0:08:34.520 squad like Noah' spense. So they're still in a mode 0:08:34.559 --> 0:08:37.320 of trying to build that that edge rush position up. 0:08:37.360 --> 0:08:41.600 But it's unfortunate they drafted four defensive or four edge 0:08:41.640 --> 0:08:45.320 rush guys in the last two drafts and not many 0:08:45.320 --> 0:08:47.559 of them are making the dance here for the for 0:08:47.640 --> 0:08:49.600 the beginning of the football season, and that that's got 0:08:49.600 --> 0:08:52.959 to be a source of frustration. You know, whether whether 0:08:53.000 --> 0:08:57.160 it's a meniscus that has to be sutured or you know, 0:08:57.280 --> 0:09:00.720 a shoulder that has a laboring issue that on injury 0:09:00.720 --> 0:09:04.240 reserve for a short period of time. It's it's varied. 0:09:04.280 --> 0:09:06.440 It's for the year, it's for three weeks, it's for 0:09:06.480 --> 0:09:08.280 six weeks, it's for order that the case may be, 0:09:08.440 --> 0:09:11.760 but by every every guy that was drafted seems to 0:09:11.760 --> 0:09:15.600 be sprinkling. Those names are sprinkled all over the injury 0:09:15.600 --> 0:09:21.240 list from coach Queaz. With Geo gone, will this be 0:09:21.320 --> 0:09:24.040 the season Joe Mixon gets more involved in the passing game. 0:09:24.720 --> 0:09:27.280 I think, I think Joe Mixon is gonna get a 0:09:27.280 --> 0:09:29.959 lot of work. Yeah, I do. I think I think 0:09:30.040 --> 0:09:33.839 Joe is capable of being a three down back um. 0:09:34.559 --> 0:09:37.640 But I do think that samaj p Ryan can give 0:09:37.679 --> 0:09:40.560 them a blow, you know, uh, and Chris Evans can 0:09:40.640 --> 0:09:43.080 also do the same thing as a as a receiving 0:09:43.559 --> 0:09:45.760 you know, running back. But again, you get into those 0:09:45.760 --> 0:09:48.560 second and third and long situations, let's pick up pass 0:09:48.600 --> 0:09:52.600 protection becomes vitally important, and that's the that's the final 0:09:53.120 --> 0:09:55.880 step for Chris Evans to show the coaches that I'm 0:09:56.280 --> 0:09:59.440 I am more than adequate as a as a pass 0:09:59.480 --> 0:10:03.600 protector and blitz pick up. Joe Mixon will do that, 0:10:03.720 --> 0:10:06.160 you know, Joel stick his nose in there and get dirty. 0:10:06.200 --> 0:10:08.240 And I think we are going to see a lot 0:10:08.240 --> 0:10:11.600 of Joe Mixon, particularly early in the season. Question from 0:10:11.640 --> 0:10:14.080 Derek how huge of an impact did the addition of 0:10:14.120 --> 0:10:17.200 Frank Pollock have on the performance of the offensive line 0:10:17.720 --> 0:10:20.320 in the preseason, only giving up one sack, and on 0:10:20.360 --> 0:10:22.600 that play the ball was snapped early and the guys 0:10:22.600 --> 0:10:25.640 weren't really even trying to block. Yeah, I mean the guys. 0:10:25.960 --> 0:10:28.640 That's a bad situation When the center forgets to snap 0:10:28.720 --> 0:10:30.840 count and snaps at account earlier and you're still in 0:10:30.880 --> 0:10:33.280 your stacenary position, those guys are blown past you. That's 0:10:33.320 --> 0:10:35.600 a bad feeling. I've been there. It's not a good feeling. 0:10:35.600 --> 0:10:39.440 It's not a very comforting feeling at all. So I 0:10:39.480 --> 0:10:42.520 think the guys really did buy into, buy into Frank 0:10:42.559 --> 0:10:45.960 Pollock everything about him. They bought into him as a 0:10:45.960 --> 0:10:48.480 as a coach, as a former player, as a person, 0:10:49.040 --> 0:10:54.360 as techniques, how he how he conducts practice, the level 0:10:54.400 --> 0:10:59.880 of intensity, the level of focus, the grind of practice, 0:11:00.400 --> 0:11:03.120 the conditioning aspect of practice. The thing I like about 0:11:03.120 --> 0:11:06.720 Frank's practices, he gets a lot of sneaky conditioning in 0:11:07.520 --> 0:11:10.640 like they're not running sprints as such, but they're running 0:11:10.640 --> 0:11:13.200 a lot from drill to drill, and he has them 0:11:13.280 --> 0:11:17.520 on the move. There's no walking, they're running, And I 0:11:17.559 --> 0:11:21.520 think Frank utilizes every last second he can possibly utilize 0:11:22.320 --> 0:11:25.280 to his advantage and his players advantage in terms of 0:11:25.320 --> 0:11:26.920 trying to get better at practice. And I think the 0:11:27.000 --> 0:11:31.880 players responded to it both mentally, physically, spiritually, you know, 0:11:31.960 --> 0:11:35.120 every way you can. They are all in there buying, 0:11:35.480 --> 0:11:38.079 But Frank Pollock is selling and it's not being sold 0:11:38.080 --> 0:11:40.920 at a sale price. I need to add some sneaky 0:11:40.920 --> 0:11:45.080 conditioning to my lifestyle, all right. Next question comes from Bengalorean, 0:11:45.360 --> 0:11:48.679 help me understand what our offensive line depth looks like. 0:11:48.720 --> 0:11:51.960 I fear we are one injury away from a potential hold. 0:11:52.800 --> 0:11:55.600 It's young, you know, that's the thing. It's it's it's 0:11:55.640 --> 0:12:01.000 a young group. But again, you have to trust that 0:12:01.120 --> 0:12:04.959 Frank Pollock knows what he's doing. Um. I think I 0:12:05.000 --> 0:12:11.240 think that that Frank um understands maturity and understands when 0:12:11.520 --> 0:12:15.120 the player doesn't necessarily have the maturity. I think that 0:12:15.200 --> 0:12:18.679 was his biggest problem with Michael Jordan, and immaturity can 0:12:18.720 --> 0:12:21.840 show itself in many ways. Uh, in a way that 0:12:21.880 --> 0:12:24.880 it can show itself as the game not being important 0:12:24.960 --> 0:12:26.840 enough as such. You know, it's a little a little 0:12:26.840 --> 0:12:31.920 immature in that regard. Um. I think that he probably 0:12:31.960 --> 0:12:34.000 feels like he's got to work with Fred and that 0:12:34.120 --> 0:12:39.160 regard a little bit. Mcfred's got immense physical potential. Um 0:12:39.679 --> 0:12:43.360 Isaiah Prince is a is a a Frank Pollock feel 0:12:43.400 --> 0:12:46.720 good story. Basically in training camp, how we responded to 0:12:46.800 --> 0:12:50.120 Frank and Frank, I think, what's going on with a 0:12:50.160 --> 0:12:51.880 lot of these guys, and then you know, you talk 0:12:51.920 --> 0:12:55.360 about the young guys Hill at center, Carmen, you know 0:12:55.520 --> 0:13:00.000 at guard, and and Deonte Smith will talk about mature 0:13:00.000 --> 0:13:03.640 already in a positive way. Deante Smith carries himself like 0:13:03.679 --> 0:13:06.800 a six year of veteran. I mean, that's that's his 0:13:07.240 --> 0:13:09.680 I think that's one of his biggest intangibles. One of 0:13:09.679 --> 0:13:14.120 his biggest strengths is this guy gets it and he 0:13:14.160 --> 0:13:16.320 shows you that he gets it in a lot of 0:13:16.360 --> 0:13:21.280 different ways. So I wouldn't I wouldn't be all Wang 0:13:21.360 --> 0:13:24.120 chunged if I had to put Deante Smith in the game, 0:13:25.160 --> 0:13:29.600 Jackson Carmen, He's getting there. There's a maturity factor there 0:13:29.640 --> 0:13:34.280 as well. Hill to me, really is solid. I think 0:13:34.280 --> 0:13:36.400 he's a pretty pretty good player at the center position. 0:13:36.440 --> 0:13:38.600 I think he'd line up a guard as well. So 0:13:38.920 --> 0:13:41.640 I think there's I think there's enough depth. It's it's 0:13:42.040 --> 0:13:45.840 very inexperienced depth, and that could be the concern that 0:13:46.280 --> 0:13:50.079 the questions you know, were referencing and concerned about it. 0:13:50.080 --> 0:13:52.959 And I can understand that. You just have to have 0:13:53.000 --> 0:13:56.960 to have faith that Frank Pollock knows that these players 0:13:57.240 --> 0:14:00.640 are capable of going in there and handling it um 0:14:01.200 --> 0:14:04.920 mentally and physically. And there has to be a trust 0:14:05.440 --> 0:14:08.640 between coach and player and player and coach. It has 0:14:08.679 --> 0:14:10.880 to be both ways, and I think that's what's going 0:14:10.920 --> 0:14:14.000 on between Frank and these offensive linemen as long as 0:14:14.000 --> 0:14:16.280 Tray health is healthy, because that's the question mark, who 0:14:16.320 --> 0:14:20.480 is your backup center? If his groin injury lingers into 0:14:20.520 --> 0:14:22.240 the start of the season. Yeah, he's got a hip 0:14:22.280 --> 0:14:24.760 flexor and that's you know, right right in the front 0:14:24.840 --> 0:14:28.520 of the earth abd him into your leg, upper leg area. 0:14:28.560 --> 0:14:34.119 It's kind of like right in there. Um, so he's uh, Obviously, 0:14:34.320 --> 0:14:36.960 in my mind, they must not think it's too severe. 0:14:37.080 --> 0:14:38.920 I don't think they would have pulled the trigger on 0:14:38.960 --> 0:14:41.800 the Billy Price trade if Trey Hopkins had been dinged 0:14:41.840 --> 0:14:44.640 up in his three STAPs, because remember, you know you 0:14:44.640 --> 0:14:47.080 can protect Joe. You can you know, you can control 0:14:47.120 --> 0:14:49.360 the narrative and protect Joe from any kind of trade. 0:14:49.400 --> 0:14:51.880 Trays in there hucking and bucking in the running game, 0:14:51.920 --> 0:14:55.760 and you know, trying knocking heads around and uh and 0:14:55.880 --> 0:14:59.880 in pass protection, you know, taking some severe putt some 0:15:00.000 --> 0:15:02.320 severe stress on that NISA. For some reason it didn't 0:15:02.320 --> 0:15:05.480 work out for him or or Trey Hill had a 0:15:05.520 --> 0:15:10.520 significant injury. I don't think in my wildest imagination I 0:15:10.560 --> 0:15:12.560 would have traded Billy Price, and they must feel pretty 0:15:12.560 --> 0:15:16.240 good about it. We'll see question from Grants who impressed 0:15:16.240 --> 0:15:20.320 you the most during training camp? In preseason? Boy? Who 0:15:20.440 --> 0:15:23.760 impressed me the most? So that's an interesting question. I 0:15:24.240 --> 0:15:27.520 would have to say. Deante Smith kind of came out 0:15:27.520 --> 0:15:31.280 of nowhere in my mind. In my eyes, I he played, 0:15:31.600 --> 0:15:35.200 you know, East Carolina. What level of football did he play? 0:15:35.200 --> 0:15:37.400 On a snap by snap basis down there? I know 0:15:37.480 --> 0:15:39.680 he had a really good Senior Bowl, and that's that's 0:15:39.760 --> 0:15:42.200 kind of a that's an indicator. You know that he's 0:15:42.400 --> 0:15:44.560 he's not over his head. So if you're not over 0:15:44.600 --> 0:15:46.840 your head at the Senior Bowl, that's a that's a 0:15:46.840 --> 0:15:49.880 good omen uh. And he came in here and and 0:15:49.960 --> 0:15:52.200 I'm not saying he'd lit it up every single day, 0:15:52.200 --> 0:15:55.920 approximately whoa look at the anti Smith? But the thing, 0:15:56.000 --> 0:15:59.720 the thing that I always look for with players is 0:16:00.240 --> 0:16:04.240 when it goes badly, how long does it take for 0:16:04.280 --> 0:16:07.360 it to turn back around again? Anything more than a snap, 0:16:07.360 --> 0:16:09.280 you're gonna have trouble in the NFL. I mean, you're 0:16:09.280 --> 0:16:11.960 gonna have selective enmusu. You have to like boom, it's over. 0:16:12.800 --> 0:16:15.760 You can't let one bad play turn into two or 0:16:15.800 --> 0:16:18.680 five bad plays in a row. So to me, when 0:16:18.720 --> 0:16:21.840 I'm watching guys, I look at that and it's like, 0:16:21.920 --> 0:16:25.880 if a guy has a horrible repid practice, Okay, let's 0:16:25.920 --> 0:16:29.720 see what happens. Oh man, Deante's moved on, or in 0:16:29.760 --> 0:16:32.000 the game, oh man, he get knocked on his ass. 0:16:32.080 --> 0:16:35.760 Let's see what happens. Oh well, he's moved on. And 0:16:35.920 --> 0:16:38.520 then if you see guys, they'll have a great play 0:16:39.760 --> 0:16:42.880 what's going on? And then another one what's going and 0:16:42.920 --> 0:16:46.000 then a couple of great And then that's when you say, 0:16:46.160 --> 0:16:47.880 I'm not sure about that guy. I'm not sure how 0:16:47.960 --> 0:16:50.040 much I can trust that dude. But if you have 0:16:50.040 --> 0:16:53.240 a guy that bounces back mentally and physically right away, 0:16:53.720 --> 0:16:56.200 I think that's a huge factor in the evaluation process. 0:16:57.040 --> 0:16:59.720 The easy answer to the who impressed you most question 0:16:59.840 --> 0:17:03.040 was Van McPherson, Oh true. My guy though, would be 0:17:03.160 --> 0:17:06.840 Chitabey a wuge I think he looks like a legit 0:17:07.560 --> 0:17:11.680 quality starting cornerback, uh, second round draft pick type guy, 0:17:11.720 --> 0:17:14.240 which is what he was by Dallas five years ago. Yeah, 0:17:14.359 --> 0:17:16.320 I think I think he's going to have a big year. 0:17:17.040 --> 0:17:19.399 I think if I had to pick a position group 0:17:19.920 --> 0:17:23.200 that had the earliest impact on me and then continued, 0:17:23.240 --> 0:17:26.040 it would be the secondary. But then it started to 0:17:26.080 --> 0:17:28.840 get you know, sprinkled and dotted with injury, and it's like, 0:17:28.920 --> 0:17:31.400 now you know Owen's they're not all out there, and 0:17:32.119 --> 0:17:34.639 some practices there were as many as three guys that 0:17:34.880 --> 0:17:38.440 you know that weren't weren't available. Um, and there there 0:17:38.480 --> 0:17:41.080 was a major line of demarcation. I mean there were 0:17:41.080 --> 0:17:45.480 guys and then there weren't. And we saw when Miami 0:17:45.560 --> 0:17:47.880 put fifteen points on the board in the final less 0:17:47.880 --> 0:17:50.840 than six minutes of a game. Um, you know that 0:17:50.840 --> 0:17:54.520 that some of those guys weren't up to snuff. But um, yeah, 0:17:54.720 --> 0:17:58.080 and McPherson, you're right then, I mean, McPherson is people 0:17:58.200 --> 0:18:01.280 people have say kickers, kickers, football players, Hey, they put 0:18:01.320 --> 0:18:05.160 points on the board. Now they're they're hugely important. And 0:18:05.200 --> 0:18:07.399 when you have a guy that as soon as you 0:18:07.480 --> 0:18:10.560 cross the fifty yard line, the opponent not only you 0:18:10.560 --> 0:18:12.879 your special team's coach Darren Simons, but the opponent has 0:18:12.920 --> 0:18:15.600 to start to think about all Jesus, they're in scoring range. 0:18:16.160 --> 0:18:18.800 That's a huge weapon. That's a huge deal. You know, 0:18:19.000 --> 0:18:21.920 we saw that when facing Baltimore. Look look at every 0:18:21.960 --> 0:18:25.920 year and facing Baltimore Ravens, it's like Justin Tucker can 0:18:26.000 --> 0:18:30.439 hit from monster yardage. Now that's somebody that can do 0:18:30.480 --> 0:18:32.320 it for us as well. That's a that's a big 0:18:32.359 --> 0:18:35.840 factor question from Greg. Could Thats Moss play a big 0:18:35.920 --> 0:18:40.959 role this season potentially, you know, if they're injury, um, 0:18:41.119 --> 0:18:43.520 it'd be interesting to see if if they lose a 0:18:43.640 --> 0:18:46.960 tight end, depending on which tight end they lose, who's 0:18:47.080 --> 0:18:50.720 who's the one, Shrek or Moss. If it's a receiving 0:18:50.800 --> 0:18:53.560 tight end, probably you know, if lose a guy that 0:18:54.480 --> 0:18:57.399 is more of a factor in the passing game, probably Moss. 0:18:57.480 --> 0:18:59.439 If it's a guy that you know you need to 0:18:59.480 --> 0:19:02.280 have a little bit more um, a little bit more 0:19:02.320 --> 0:19:05.439 open to block on the on the edge, you know, 0:19:05.440 --> 0:19:08.760 it might be Shrek um that that'd be interesting to see. 0:19:09.160 --> 0:19:14.439 But obviously, Daddius Moss is the possessor of a ringing 0:19:14.520 --> 0:19:17.960 endorsement from his college quarterback, and that that holds some weight. 0:19:18.240 --> 0:19:21.879 So when you when when Joe Burrow has the faith 0:19:21.920 --> 0:19:25.560 and the confidence and Daddius Moss that he articulated, um, 0:19:25.640 --> 0:19:28.880 the coaches believe it, obviously, and it's a factor. So 0:19:28.920 --> 0:19:32.360 I think I think if it's uh, if it's somewhere 0:19:33.280 --> 0:19:35.040 at some point in the season and you have a 0:19:35.080 --> 0:19:37.320 stretch of games where I think we need a tight 0:19:37.440 --> 0:19:39.920 end that has has to be a receiving option or 0:19:39.960 --> 0:19:42.520 receiving threat, I think he's probably a guy they're really 0:19:42.520 --> 0:19:46.000 going to look at hard. Question from governor chief, what 0:19:46.080 --> 0:19:49.040 are your expectations for Darius Hodge and how many sacks 0:19:49.280 --> 0:19:53.800 can he rack up? That's that's what a story. What 0:19:53.880 --> 0:19:58.480 a story. That is a guy, undrafted linebacker from Marshall 0:19:58.760 --> 0:20:00.960 who we're talking about, how many sacks is he going 0:20:01.000 --> 0:20:03.200 to wrap, you know, rack up as an edge rush 0:20:03.240 --> 0:20:07.040 guy for the Bengals. I honestly, if all the edge 0:20:07.080 --> 0:20:09.399 rush guys were healthy that we talked about, he'd be 0:20:09.400 --> 0:20:13.480 a practice squad guy. And really, when I think about it, 0:20:13.720 --> 0:20:17.560 that's where he probably has the best fit because you 0:20:17.600 --> 0:20:20.359 can develop them. It'll be interesting to see how he 0:20:20.400 --> 0:20:24.119 responds going against true studs on a regular basis. So 0:20:24.240 --> 0:20:27.000 he does have to go in there and provide significant pressure. 0:20:27.040 --> 0:20:29.040 And right now, you know, he's one of five guys. 0:20:29.080 --> 0:20:32.239 I mean, he's one of the guys that that you know. 0:20:32.520 --> 0:20:35.040 I think he's probably gonna have to fill some sort 0:20:35.080 --> 0:20:38.040 of a role for twelve to fifteen snaps coming off 0:20:38.040 --> 0:20:40.480 of that edge. And if he's if he's out there 0:20:40.480 --> 0:20:43.960 for fifteen snaps a game, you know, and is accumulating 0:20:44.119 --> 0:20:47.960 a couple of hundred rushes, I don't know. She could 0:20:47.960 --> 0:20:52.520 he could he get as many as seven sacks possible, possible, 0:20:53.000 --> 0:20:56.160 But I think I think now we're I think now 0:20:56.160 --> 0:21:00.920 we're talking about best case scenarios. Obviously this question comes 0:21:00.960 --> 0:21:04.359 from a wog the goat, but the question is not 0:21:04.440 --> 0:21:07.800 about Chittabey a wouge. How long do you see Colleed 0:21:07.920 --> 0:21:12.720 Kareem being out? You know, I think I think Kareem 0:21:12.760 --> 0:21:16.880 will be out three weeks, you know, I think three weeks. Uh, 0:21:17.160 --> 0:21:19.640 he's on age, your reserve, he can come back after 0:21:19.720 --> 0:21:22.959 three weeks. So I think that that that is a 0:21:23.000 --> 0:21:26.560 time frame that that makes some sense he's got a 0:21:26.640 --> 0:21:29.239 laboring problem. It wasn't torn where it had to be 0:21:29.280 --> 0:21:33.560 repaired surgically, so he just has to rest it and 0:21:33.680 --> 0:21:37.280 rehabit and and those good things. But you know it's 0:21:37.280 --> 0:21:41.040 the opposite shoulder from the shoulder that he has some 0:21:41.200 --> 0:21:43.840 arthritis that he deals with in So I mean, now 0:21:43.880 --> 0:21:47.520 it's likes both your shoulders when you're a when you're 0:21:47.520 --> 0:21:50.520 a rush guy and you have to you know, you 0:21:50.520 --> 0:21:53.640 have to use your upper body, grab, pull, swim, rip, 0:21:53.960 --> 0:21:57.200 all these different moves. Your shoulders are vitally important. There's 0:21:57.240 --> 0:22:00.159 no question about it. But um, he may miss the 0:22:00.200 --> 0:22:04.280 first quarter of the season and hopefully he hopefully he 0:22:04.320 --> 0:22:06.360 comes back. But have you ever seen a situation, Dan, 0:22:06.440 --> 0:22:10.320 where where two guys like Osai and Kareem in the 0:22:10.359 --> 0:22:14.200 first preseason game against Tampas in the first series makes 0:22:14.200 --> 0:22:17.399 an impression that's just unbelievable. I mean, he beats a 0:22:17.440 --> 0:22:20.000 tackle that gave up one sack last year and he 0:22:20.040 --> 0:22:23.520