1 00:00:03,480 --> 00:00:06,239 Speaker 1: I get everybody. I'm Dan Horde and thanks for downloading 2 00:00:06,280 --> 00:00:11,399 Speaker 1: the Bengals Booth podcast. The could it be as it could? 3 00:00:11,680 --> 00:00:17,400 Speaker 1: Something's come in, something good if I can wait. Addition, 4 00:00:17,840 --> 00:00:19,960 Speaker 1: as we gear up for the start of the regular 5 00:00:19,960 --> 00:00:23,119 Speaker 1: season coming up a week from Sunday against Mike Zimmer's 6 00:00:23,160 --> 00:00:26,840 Speaker 1: Minnesota Vikings. Coming up on the pod, Dave Lapham joins 7 00:00:26,840 --> 00:00:30,200 Speaker 1: me to answer the ask lap questions that you submitted 8 00:00:30,280 --> 00:00:34,880 Speaker 1: on Twitter. Then I'll quiz the coordinators. Not with x's 9 00:00:34,920 --> 00:00:37,400 Speaker 1: and oh's, we do plenty of that, but I've got 10 00:00:37,479 --> 00:00:41,040 Speaker 1: a few offbeat questions for Brian Callahan, lou Ana Rumo, 11 00:00:41,240 --> 00:00:44,959 Speaker 1: and Darren Simmons. The Bengals Booth Podcast is presented by 12 00:00:45,080 --> 00:00:48,440 Speaker 1: bud Light. Seltzer refreshed the Game and here's a quick 13 00:00:48,440 --> 00:00:50,919 Speaker 1: reminder that you could have the latest edition of this 14 00:00:51,000 --> 00:00:54,200 Speaker 1: podcast delivered right to your phone, tablet, or computer by 15 00:00:54,280 --> 00:00:58,680 Speaker 1: subscribing on iTunes, Stitch, your Google Play, Spotify, or pod Bean. 16 00:00:59,080 --> 00:01:04,760 Speaker 1: It's the greatest since Traveling Trophies in college football. The 17 00:01:04,840 --> 00:01:07,919 Speaker 1: eighth rank UC Bearcats open the season on Saturday against 18 00:01:07,920 --> 00:01:11,560 Speaker 1: the Miami RedHawks in the one hundred twenty fifth Battle 19 00:01:11,680 --> 00:01:14,679 Speaker 1: for the Victory Bell They've been playing for the right 20 00:01:14,720 --> 00:01:17,760 Speaker 1: to hold on to the bell since the eighteen nineties. 21 00:01:18,240 --> 00:01:20,800 Speaker 1: One side of the bell is painted black with white 22 00:01:20,880 --> 00:01:24,839 Speaker 1: numbers showing Cincinnati's victories, while the other side is white 23 00:01:25,000 --> 00:01:29,400 Speaker 1: with red numbers showing Miami's victories. It's a cool tradition 24 00:01:29,520 --> 00:01:33,160 Speaker 1: and one of many like it in college football. TCU 25 00:01:33,240 --> 00:01:37,560 Speaker 1: and SMU battle for the Iron Skillet, Minnesota and Michigan 26 00:01:37,600 --> 00:01:40,600 Speaker 1: compete for the Little Brown jug and Mississippi State and 27 00:01:40,680 --> 00:01:44,479 Speaker 1: Ole miss duke it out for the Golden Egg. It's 28 00:01:44,520 --> 00:01:48,080 Speaker 1: part of the fun of college football. Now, let's get 29 00:01:48,080 --> 00:01:50,840 Speaker 1: to my conversation with Dave Lapham, including a bunch of 30 00:01:50,960 --> 00:01:55,960 Speaker 1: ask lap questions that you've submitted on Twitter. Were there 31 00:01:56,000 --> 00:02:00,440 Speaker 1: any roster moves that you found surprising or particularly interesting? 32 00:02:00,920 --> 00:02:06,280 Speaker 1: Nothing that was, you know, really surprising. Obviously, there was 33 00:02:06,320 --> 00:02:10,160 Speaker 1: an indication during the course of training camp to Michael 34 00:02:10,240 --> 00:02:13,480 Speaker 1: Jordan was having some consistency issues, which you know, had 35 00:02:13,560 --> 00:02:16,440 Speaker 1: kind of plagued him throughout his career. Really, I mean, 36 00:02:17,600 --> 00:02:21,639 Speaker 1: you see snaps where it's like, wow, big strong can 37 00:02:21,720 --> 00:02:24,720 Speaker 1: come off the ball, can move people and be a 38 00:02:24,760 --> 00:02:27,560 Speaker 1: real factor, and then there'd be snaps it'd be like 39 00:02:27,600 --> 00:02:30,200 Speaker 1: where did that come from kind of thing, so that 40 00:02:31,400 --> 00:02:35,560 Speaker 1: that North and South Pole inconsistency is is something that 41 00:02:35,760 --> 00:02:38,360 Speaker 1: coaches are fearful of. You know, you don't know what 42 00:02:38,400 --> 00:02:41,160 Speaker 1: you're going to get. So I think the biggest thing 43 00:02:41,440 --> 00:02:46,000 Speaker 1: that coaches look for is is intelligence and then you know, 44 00:02:46,000 --> 00:02:48,000 Speaker 1: know what to expect out of a player on a 45 00:02:48,000 --> 00:02:51,440 Speaker 1: snap by snap basis, And in a couple of cases 46 00:02:51,480 --> 00:02:55,000 Speaker 1: that was probably a factor in the elimination of you know, 47 00:02:55,040 --> 00:02:57,880 Speaker 1: of them making the fifty three man roster. The biggest 48 00:02:57,880 --> 00:03:00,400 Speaker 1: surprise to me was the absence of Trenton Or. I 49 00:03:00,440 --> 00:03:02,520 Speaker 1: thought he was a slam dunk locke to be on 50 00:03:02,560 --> 00:03:04,359 Speaker 1: the fifty three man roster. I thought he was the 51 00:03:04,440 --> 00:03:07,880 Speaker 1: number five wide receiver. As we do this recording, there's 52 00:03:07,919 --> 00:03:10,640 Speaker 1: a spot available on the practice squad. It might go 53 00:03:10,720 --> 00:03:12,840 Speaker 1: to him if he clears waivers. It sounds like that's 54 00:03:12,840 --> 00:03:16,480 Speaker 1: a possibility. But man, I thought he was good to 55 00:03:16,639 --> 00:03:19,560 Speaker 1: go on the fifty three. Yeah. I think it's the 56 00:03:19,639 --> 00:03:23,440 Speaker 1: special teams, you know, aspect is so important. Stanley Morgan 57 00:03:23,680 --> 00:03:26,400 Speaker 1: is such a huge factor on special teams. Mike Thomas 58 00:03:26,520 --> 00:03:29,799 Speaker 1: is such a huge factor on special teams that when 59 00:03:29,800 --> 00:03:32,000 Speaker 1: you get down to that that number you know the 60 00:03:32,720 --> 00:03:35,440 Speaker 1: five six seven, however many you're going to keep wide 61 00:03:35,440 --> 00:03:39,200 Speaker 1: receivers that it's a combination of how many snaps you're 62 00:03:39,240 --> 00:03:41,720 Speaker 1: gonna get from a player, not only at the line 63 00:03:41,720 --> 00:03:45,800 Speaker 1: of scrimmage offensively or defensively, but at in special team snaps, 64 00:03:45,840 --> 00:03:48,880 Speaker 1: and who gives you the largest total. And that's where 65 00:03:49,040 --> 00:03:51,320 Speaker 1: you know, I guess he slid. Obviously, it'll slid down 66 00:03:51,360 --> 00:03:54,680 Speaker 1: the total pole a little bit because Stanley Morgan and 67 00:03:55,040 --> 00:03:58,360 Speaker 1: Mike Thomas or their core special teams guys for Darren. 68 00:03:58,480 --> 00:04:02,560 Speaker 1: So it comes a big part of that evaluation process 69 00:04:02,600 --> 00:04:06,120 Speaker 1: for sure. All Right, let's get to some ask Lap 70 00:04:06,240 --> 00:04:09,360 Speaker 1: questions that were submitted by fans. Question number one comes 71 00:04:09,360 --> 00:04:12,880 Speaker 1: from somebody named Trey Oddly enough, his questions about Trey 72 00:04:12,880 --> 00:04:16,919 Speaker 1: Wayne's His question is, is Trey Wayne's third year of 73 00:04:16,960 --> 00:04:21,080 Speaker 1: his contract a player or team option? And do you 74 00:04:21,160 --> 00:04:25,240 Speaker 1: sense any frustration within the organization regarding his availability for 75 00:04:25,279 --> 00:04:28,120 Speaker 1: the past two years. I can answer the first part. 76 00:04:28,160 --> 00:04:30,440 Speaker 1: There isn't a player or a team option. It was 77 00:04:30,480 --> 00:04:33,279 Speaker 1: a three year deal, however, structured in such a way 78 00:04:33,560 --> 00:04:35,320 Speaker 1: that they could get out of it at the end 79 00:04:35,360 --> 00:04:38,120 Speaker 1: of this year with minimal cap damage. It would be 80 00:04:38,160 --> 00:04:41,839 Speaker 1: five million in dead cap money, So if things don't 81 00:04:41,880 --> 00:04:44,560 Speaker 1: work out at some point this year, they could move 82 00:04:44,600 --> 00:04:46,360 Speaker 1: on at the end of the season. Now on to 83 00:04:46,440 --> 00:04:49,920 Speaker 1: the second part of the question, do you sense any frustration? Yeah, 84 00:04:49,960 --> 00:04:53,359 Speaker 1: that's going to be a big factor in the evaluation process. 85 00:04:53,400 --> 00:04:55,719 Speaker 1: I think of do they get out of it or 86 00:04:55,760 --> 00:05:00,120 Speaker 1: do they go for another year. It's unbelievable how and 87 00:05:00,160 --> 00:05:03,680 Speaker 1: he's been with respect to injury, it's it's it's amazing. 88 00:05:04,000 --> 00:05:06,840 Speaker 1: I think you'd have to dig really hard to try 89 00:05:06,880 --> 00:05:10,200 Speaker 1: to find a player that has been compensated at a 90 00:05:10,279 --> 00:05:13,040 Speaker 1: higher level for fewer snaps. I mean, I don't think 91 00:05:13,040 --> 00:05:15,560 Speaker 1: there is one. I think he may be the most 92 00:05:15,600 --> 00:05:18,640 Speaker 1: in team history. And you know a lot of that. 93 00:05:18,720 --> 00:05:20,800 Speaker 1: Bryant and a wide receiver a few years back. I 94 00:05:20,839 --> 00:05:22,280 Speaker 1: know they paid a lot of money and he never 95 00:05:22,320 --> 00:05:24,680 Speaker 1: played a snap. He never even really got through a 96 00:05:24,680 --> 00:05:28,520 Speaker 1: training camp. Um. But that's that's the variable that you 97 00:05:28,520 --> 00:05:30,840 Speaker 1: you have no control over as a player or an 98 00:05:30,960 --> 00:05:35,560 Speaker 1: organization is the injury factor. And man, a once a 99 00:05:35,600 --> 00:05:39,280 Speaker 1: guy seems to be hit by it, it's like how 100 00:05:39,279 --> 00:05:40,840 Speaker 1: do you how do you work your way out of it? 101 00:05:41,560 --> 00:05:43,599 Speaker 1: And then there are cases where we're going to be 102 00:05:43,680 --> 00:05:45,520 Speaker 1: injured for a couple of years and go on and 103 00:05:45,560 --> 00:05:47,520 Speaker 1: have a great career. So what are you looking at? 104 00:05:47,640 --> 00:05:50,320 Speaker 1: You just don't know. Uh, if you had a crystal ball, 105 00:05:50,400 --> 00:05:52,640 Speaker 1: that would be great. I guess it's going to be 106 00:05:52,720 --> 00:05:55,039 Speaker 1: interesting how it turns out. First and foremost, even for 107 00:05:55,080 --> 00:05:57,599 Speaker 1: this year. I mean, he's he's got a hamstring issue, 108 00:05:58,320 --> 00:06:02,039 Speaker 1: he said, both hamstrings that have acted up on him 109 00:06:02,400 --> 00:06:06,400 Speaker 1: in hand. Sometimes when no start, they linger and they 110 00:06:06,520 --> 00:06:09,400 Speaker 1: nag and they nag away. Will he be able to 111 00:06:09,680 --> 00:06:12,239 Speaker 1: get healthy and then go out and just play and play, 112 00:06:12,800 --> 00:06:16,960 Speaker 1: you know, fourteen games of the seventeen game season potentially, 113 00:06:17,000 --> 00:06:19,119 Speaker 1: and then then you'll be in a in a different 114 00:06:19,160 --> 00:06:21,600 Speaker 1: evaluation mode obviously than you are right now, because right 115 00:06:21,600 --> 00:06:24,320 Speaker 1: now you don't know what he can do at this 116 00:06:24,360 --> 00:06:26,960 Speaker 1: stage of the relationship. You don't know what he can 117 00:06:26,960 --> 00:06:30,719 Speaker 1: do other than rehab, you know, rehab from surgery, rehab 118 00:06:30,800 --> 00:06:34,880 Speaker 1: from hamstring issues. That's that's all you've been able to 119 00:06:34,920 --> 00:06:39,480 Speaker 1: determine other than that. It's so the level of frustration 120 00:06:39,839 --> 00:06:42,320 Speaker 1: has to be high, not just for the organization, for 121 00:06:42,400 --> 00:06:45,760 Speaker 1: him too. I mean, he's not happy about it. And 122 00:06:45,800 --> 00:06:48,600 Speaker 1: there's no two ways a guy hopes to be injured 123 00:06:48,839 --> 00:06:51,600 Speaker 1: as much as Trey Wayne's has been injured, there's absolutely 124 00:06:51,680 --> 00:06:54,640 Speaker 1: no way in hell. And I thought he looked like 125 00:06:55,279 --> 00:06:57,240 Speaker 1: the guy that they were hoping he would be in 126 00:06:57,320 --> 00:07:01,440 Speaker 1: training camp. He and A Wougier were both performing very 127 00:07:01,440 --> 00:07:05,240 Speaker 1: well at practice. I agree, he's long, he's got some strength, 128 00:07:06,160 --> 00:07:10,160 Speaker 1: he's got you know, athletic ability, he can change direction. 129 00:07:10,280 --> 00:07:13,720 Speaker 1: I think he's a I think he's a solid, a 130 00:07:13,760 --> 00:07:18,240 Speaker 1: solid guy at the cornerback position. But again, when when 131 00:07:18,320 --> 00:07:19,960 Speaker 1: will he be able to line up there on a 132 00:07:19,960 --> 00:07:23,440 Speaker 1: consistent basis and show those abilities on a snap by 133 00:07:23,520 --> 00:07:27,240 Speaker 1: snap by snap basis. Question number two comes from Alexander. 134 00:07:27,320 --> 00:07:31,559 Speaker 1: Are the losses of Osi sample and Wayne's a big 135 00:07:31,640 --> 00:07:36,560 Speaker 1: problem that hasn't really been fixed. I think I think 136 00:07:36,600 --> 00:07:39,360 Speaker 1: the edge rush position is still If I had to 137 00:07:39,360 --> 00:07:41,840 Speaker 1: pick a weakness on the roster, that that that's it, 138 00:07:42,200 --> 00:07:45,720 Speaker 1: and they're still trying to address it. There's no doubt 139 00:07:45,720 --> 00:07:48,960 Speaker 1: in my mind that when they traded for b. J. Hill, 140 00:07:49,000 --> 00:07:51,240 Speaker 1: they were trying to find a defensive end and couldn't 141 00:07:51,280 --> 00:07:54,920 Speaker 1: put a deal together. And even you know, fourth and 142 00:07:55,000 --> 00:07:59,640 Speaker 1: fifth defensive ends have value, so couldn't come to an agreement. 143 00:08:00,120 --> 00:08:03,640 Speaker 1: If there were any inkling of an agreement happening at 144 00:08:03,640 --> 00:08:07,960 Speaker 1: the defensive end position. There was a trade at front 145 00:08:08,040 --> 00:08:11,040 Speaker 1: for a defensive end before the Bengals did trade for 146 00:08:11,040 --> 00:08:13,840 Speaker 1: for bj Hill, So I thought, well, you know the league, 147 00:08:13,840 --> 00:08:18,480 Speaker 1: there has been a trade consummated and documented here, maybe 148 00:08:18,480 --> 00:08:20,480 Speaker 1: the Bengals will be able to follow suit, but couldn't 149 00:08:20,520 --> 00:08:23,440 Speaker 1: quite put it together. So they're still looking, you know, 150 00:08:23,560 --> 00:08:27,680 Speaker 1: still bringing guys in off the waiver wire. Guys are 151 00:08:28,320 --> 00:08:31,120 Speaker 1: here and and cut and brought back to the practice 152 00:08:31,120 --> 00:08:34,520 Speaker 1: squad like Noah' spense. So they're still in a mode 153 00:08:34,559 --> 00:08:37,320 Speaker 1: of trying to build that that edge rush position up. 154 00:08:37,360 --> 00:08:41,600 Speaker 1: But it's unfortunate they drafted four defensive or four edge 155 00:08:41,640 --> 00:08:45,320 Speaker 1: rush guys in the last two drafts and not many 156 00:08:45,320 --> 00:08:47,559 Speaker 1: of them are making the dance here for the for 157 00:08:47,640 --> 00:08:49,600 Speaker 1: the beginning of the football season, and that that's got 158 00:08:49,600 --> 00:08:52,959 Speaker 1: to be a source of frustration. You know, whether whether 159 00:08:53,000 --> 00:08:57,160 Speaker 1: it's a meniscus that has to be sutured or you know, 160 00:08:57,280 --> 00:09:00,720 Speaker 1: a shoulder that has a laboring issue that on injury 161 00:09:00,720 --> 00:09:04,240 Speaker 1: reserve for a short period of time. It's it's varied. 162 00:09:04,280 --> 00:09:06,440 Speaker 1: It's for the year, it's for three weeks, it's for 163 00:09:06,480 --> 00:09:08,280 Speaker 1: six weeks, it's for order that the case may be, 164 00:09:08,440 --> 00:09:11,760 Speaker 1: but by every every guy that was drafted seems to 165 00:09:11,760 --> 00:09:15,600 Speaker 1: be sprinkling. Those names are sprinkled all over the injury 166 00:09:15,600 --> 00:09:21,240 Speaker 1: list from coach Queaz. With Geo gone, will this be 167 00:09:21,320 --> 00:09:24,040 Speaker 1: the season Joe Mixon gets more involved in the passing game. 168 00:09:24,720 --> 00:09:27,280 Speaker 1: I think, I think Joe Mixon is gonna get a 169 00:09:27,280 --> 00:09:29,959 Speaker 1: lot of work. Yeah, I do. I think I think 170 00:09:30,040 --> 00:09:33,839 Speaker 1: Joe is capable of being a three down back um. 171 00:09:34,559 --> 00:09:37,640 Speaker 1: But I do think that samaj p Ryan can give 172 00:09:37,679 --> 00:09:40,560 Speaker 1: them a blow, you know, uh, and Chris Evans can 173 00:09:40,640 --> 00:09:43,080 Speaker 1: also do the same thing as a as a receiving 174 00:09:43,559 --> 00:09:45,760 Speaker 1: you know, running back. But again, you get into those 175 00:09:45,760 --> 00:09:48,560 Speaker 1: second and third and long situations, let's pick up pass 176 00:09:48,600 --> 00:09:52,600 Speaker 1: protection becomes vitally important, and that's the that's the final 177 00:09:53,120 --> 00:09:55,880 Speaker 1: step for Chris Evans to show the coaches that I'm 178 00:09:56,280 --> 00:09:59,440 Speaker 1: I am more than adequate as a as a pass 179 00:09:59,480 --> 00:10:03,600 Speaker 1: protector and blitz pick up. Joe Mixon will do that, 180 00:10:03,720 --> 00:10:06,160 Speaker 1: you know, Joel stick his nose in there and get dirty. 181 00:10:06,200 --> 00:10:08,240 Speaker 1: And I think we are going to see a lot 182 00:10:08,240 --> 00:10:11,600 Speaker 1: of Joe Mixon, particularly early in the season. Question from 183 00:10:11,640 --> 00:10:14,080 Speaker 1: Derek how huge of an impact did the addition of 184 00:10:14,120 --> 00:10:17,200 Speaker 1: Frank Pollock have on the performance of the offensive line 185 00:10:17,720 --> 00:10:20,320 Speaker 1: in the preseason, only giving up one sack, and on 186 00:10:20,360 --> 00:10:22,600 Speaker 1: that play the ball was snapped early and the guys 187 00:10:22,600 --> 00:10:25,640 Speaker 1: weren't really even trying to block. Yeah, I mean the guys. 188 00:10:25,960 --> 00:10:28,640 Speaker 1: That's a bad situation When the center forgets to snap 189 00:10:28,720 --> 00:10:30,840 Speaker 1: count and snaps at account earlier and you're still in 190 00:10:30,880 --> 00:10:33,280 Speaker 1: your stacenary position, those guys are blown past you. That's 191 00:10:33,320 --> 00:10:35,600 Speaker 1: a bad feeling. I've been there. It's not a good feeling. 192 00:10:35,600 --> 00:10:39,440 Speaker 1: It's not a very comforting feeling at all. So I 193 00:10:39,480 --> 00:10:42,520 Speaker 1: think the guys really did buy into, buy into Frank 194 00:10:42,559 --> 00:10:45,960 Speaker 1: Pollock everything about him. They bought into him as a 195 00:10:45,960 --> 00:10:48,480 Speaker 1: as a coach, as a former player, as a person, 196 00:10:49,040 --> 00:10:54,360 Speaker 1: as techniques, how he how he conducts practice, the level 197 00:10:54,400 --> 00:10:59,880 Speaker 1: of intensity, the level of focus, the grind of practice, 198 00:11:00,400 --> 00:11:03,120 Speaker 1: the conditioning aspect of practice. The thing I like about 199 00:11:03,120 --> 00:11:06,720 Speaker 1: Frank's practices, he gets a lot of sneaky conditioning in 200 00:11:07,520 --> 00:11:10,640 Speaker 1: like they're not running sprints as such, but they're running 201 00:11:10,640 --> 00:11:13,200 Speaker 1: a lot from drill to drill, and he has them 202 00:11:13,280 --> 00:11:17,520 Speaker 1: on the move. There's no walking, they're running, And I 203 00:11:17,559 --> 00:11:21,520 Speaker 1: think Frank utilizes every last second he can possibly utilize 204 00:11:22,320 --> 00:11:25,280 Speaker 1: to his advantage and his players advantage in terms of 205 00:11:25,320 --> 00:11:26,920 Speaker 1: trying to get better at practice. And I think the 206 00:11:27,000 --> 00:11:31,880 Speaker 1: players responded to it both mentally, physically, spiritually, you know, 207 00:11:31,960 --> 00:11:35,120 Speaker 1: every way you can. They are all in there buying, 208 00:11:35,480 --> 00:11:38,079 Speaker 1: But Frank Pollock is selling and it's not being sold 209 00:11:38,080 --> 00:11:40,920 Speaker 1: at a sale price. I need to add some sneaky 210 00:11:40,920 --> 00:11:45,080 Speaker 1: conditioning to my lifestyle, all right. Next question comes from Bengalorean, 211 00:11:45,360 --> 00:11:48,679 Speaker 1: help me understand what our offensive line depth looks like. 212 00:11:48,720 --> 00:11:51,960 Speaker 1: I fear we are one injury away from a potential hold. 213 00:11:52,800 --> 00:11:55,600 Speaker 1: It's young, you know, that's the thing. It's it's it's 214 00:11:55,640 --> 00:12:01,000 Speaker 1: a young group. But again, you have to trust that 215 00:12:01,120 --> 00:12:04,959 Speaker 1: Frank Pollock knows what he's doing. Um. I think I 216 00:12:05,000 --> 00:12:11,240 Speaker 1: think that that Frank um understands maturity and understands when 217 00:12:11,520 --> 00:12:15,120 Speaker 1: the player doesn't necessarily have the maturity. I think that 218 00:12:15,200 --> 00:12:18,679 Speaker 1: was his biggest problem with Michael Jordan, and immaturity can 219 00:12:18,720 --> 00:12:21,840 Speaker 1: show itself in many ways. Uh, in a way that 220 00:12:21,880 --> 00:12:24,880 Speaker 1: it can show itself as the game not being important 221 00:12:24,960 --> 00:12:26,840 Speaker 1: enough as such. You know, it's a little a little 222 00:12:26,840 --> 00:12:31,920 Speaker 1: immature in that regard. Um. I think that he probably 223 00:12:31,960 --> 00:12:34,000 Speaker 1: feels like he's got to work with Fred and that 224 00:12:34,120 --> 00:12:39,160 Speaker 1: regard a little bit. Mcfred's got immense physical potential. Um 225 00:12:39,679 --> 00:12:43,360 Speaker 1: Isaiah Prince is a is a a Frank Pollock feel 226 00:12:43,400 --> 00:12:46,720 Speaker 1: good story. Basically in training camp, how we responded to 227 00:12:46,800 --> 00:12:50,120 Speaker 1: Frank and Frank, I think, what's going on with a 228 00:12:50,160 --> 00:12:51,880 Speaker 1: lot of these guys, and then you know, you talk 229 00:12:51,920 --> 00:12:55,360 Speaker 1: about the young guys Hill at center, Carmen, you know 230 00:12:55,520 --> 00:13:00,000 Speaker 1: at guard, and and Deonte Smith will talk about mature 231 00:13:00,000 --> 00:13:03,640 Speaker 1: already in a positive way. Deante Smith carries himself like 232 00:13:03,679 --> 00:13:06,800 Speaker 1: a six year of veteran. I mean, that's that's his 233 00:13:07,240 --> 00:13:09,680 Speaker 1: I think that's one of his biggest intangibles. One of 234 00:13:09,679 --> 00:13:14,120 Speaker 1: his biggest strengths is this guy gets it and he 235 00:13:14,160 --> 00:13:16,320 Speaker 1: shows you that he gets it in a lot of 236 00:13:16,360 --> 00:13:21,280 Speaker 1: different ways. So I wouldn't I wouldn't be all Wang 237 00:13:21,360 --> 00:13:24,120 Speaker 1: chunged if I had to put Deante Smith in the game, 238 00:13:25,160 --> 00:13:29,600 Speaker 1: Jackson Carmen, He's getting there. There's a maturity factor there 239 00:13:29,640 --> 00:13:34,280 Speaker 1: as well. Hill to me, really is solid. I think 240 00:13:34,280 --> 00:13:36,400 Speaker 1: he's a pretty pretty good player at the center position. 241 00:13:36,440 --> 00:13:38,600 Speaker 1: I think he'd line up a guard as well. So 242 00:13:38,920 --> 00:13:41,640 Speaker 1: I think there's I think there's enough depth. It's it's 243 00:13:42,040 --> 00:13:45,840 Speaker 1: very inexperienced depth, and that could be the concern that 244 00:13:46,280 --> 00:13:50,079 Speaker 1: the questions you know, were referencing and concerned about it. 245 00:13:50,080 --> 00:13:52,959 Speaker 1: And I can understand that. You just have to have 246 00:13:53,000 --> 00:13:56,960 Speaker 1: to have faith that Frank Pollock knows that these players 247 00:13:57,240 --> 00:14:00,640 Speaker 1: are capable of going in there and handling it um 248 00:14:01,200 --> 00:14:04,920 Speaker 1: mentally and physically. And there has to be a trust 249 00:14:05,440 --> 00:14:08,640 Speaker 1: between coach and player and player and coach. It has 250 00:14:08,679 --> 00:14:10,880 Speaker 1: to be both ways, and I think that's what's going 251 00:14:10,920 --> 00:14:14,000 Speaker 1: on between Frank and these offensive linemen as long as 252 00:14:14,000 --> 00:14:16,280 Speaker 1: Tray health is healthy, because that's the question mark, who 253 00:14:16,320 --> 00:14:20,480 Speaker 1: is your backup center? If his groin injury lingers into 254 00:14:20,520 --> 00:14:22,240 Speaker 1: the start of the season. Yeah, he's got a hip 255 00:14:22,280 --> 00:14:24,760 Speaker 1: flexor and that's you know, right right in the front 256 00:14:24,840 --> 00:14:28,520 Speaker 1: of the earth abd him into your leg, upper leg area. 257 00:14:28,560 --> 00:14:34,119 Speaker 1: It's kind of like right in there. Um, so he's uh, Obviously, 258 00:14:34,320 --> 00:14:36,960 Speaker 1: in my mind, they must not think it's too severe. 259 00:14:37,080 --> 00:14:38,920 Speaker 1: I don't think they would have pulled the trigger on 260 00:14:38,960 --> 00:14:41,800 Speaker 1: the Billy Price trade if Trey Hopkins had been dinged 261 00:14:41,840 --> 00:14:44,640 Speaker 1: up in his three STAPs, because remember, you know you 262 00:14:44,640 --> 00:14:47,080 Speaker 1: can protect Joe. You can you know, you can control 263 00:14:47,120 --> 00:14:49,360 Speaker 1: the narrative and protect Joe from any kind of trade. 264 00:14:49,400 --> 00:14:51,880 Speaker 1: Trays in there hucking and bucking in the running game, 265 00:14:51,920 --> 00:14:55,760 Speaker 1: and you know, trying knocking heads around and uh and 266 00:14:55,880 --> 00:14:59,880 Speaker 1: in pass protection, you know, taking some severe putt some 267 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:02,320 Speaker 1: severe stress on that NISA. For some reason it didn't 268 00:15:02,320 --> 00:15:05,480 Speaker 1: work out for him or or Trey Hill had a 269 00:15:05,520 --> 00:15:10,520 Speaker 1: significant injury. I don't think in my wildest imagination I 270 00:15:10,560 --> 00:15:12,560 Speaker 1: would have traded Billy Price, and they must feel pretty 271 00:15:12,560 --> 00:15:16,240 Speaker 1: good about it. We'll see question from Grants who impressed 272 00:15:16,240 --> 00:15:20,320 Speaker 1: you the most during training camp? In preseason? Boy? Who 273 00:15:20,440 --> 00:15:23,760 Speaker 1: impressed me the most? So that's an interesting question. I 274 00:15:24,240 --> 00:15:27,520 Speaker 1: would have to say. Deante Smith kind of came out 275 00:15:27,520 --> 00:15:31,280 Speaker 1: of nowhere in my mind. In my eyes, I he played, 276 00:15:31,600 --> 00:15:35,200 Speaker 1: you know, East Carolina. What level of football did he play? 277 00:15:35,200 --> 00:15:37,400 Speaker 1: On a snap by snap basis down there? I know 278 00:15:37,480 --> 00:15:39,680 Speaker 1: he had a really good Senior Bowl, and that's that's 279 00:15:39,760 --> 00:15:42,200 Speaker 1: kind of a that's an indicator. You know that he's 280 00:15:42,400 --> 00:15:44,560 Speaker 1: he's not over his head. So if you're not over 281 00:15:44,600 --> 00:15:46,840 Speaker 1: your head at the Senior Bowl, that's a that's a 282 00:15:46,840 --> 00:15:49,880 Speaker 1: good omen uh. And he came in here and and 283 00:15:49,960 --> 00:15:52,200 Speaker 1: I'm not saying he'd lit it up every single day, 284 00:15:52,200 --> 00:15:55,920 Speaker 1: approximately whoa look at the anti Smith? But the thing, 285 00:15:56,000 --> 00:15:59,720 Speaker 1: the thing that I always look for with players is 286 00:16:00,240 --> 00:16:04,240 Speaker 1: when it goes badly, how long does it take for 287 00:16:04,280 --> 00:16:07,360 Speaker 1: it to turn back around again? Anything more than a snap, 288 00:16:07,360 --> 00:16:09,280 Speaker 1: you're gonna have trouble in the NFL. I mean, you're 289 00:16:09,280 --> 00:16:11,960 Speaker 1: gonna have selective enmusu. You have to like boom, it's over. 290 00:16:12,800 --> 00:16:15,760 Speaker 1: You can't let one bad play turn into two or 291 00:16:15,800 --> 00:16:18,680 Speaker 1: five bad plays in a row. So to me, when 292 00:16:18,720 --> 00:16:21,840 Speaker 1: I'm watching guys, I look at that and it's like, 293 00:16:21,920 --> 00:16:25,880 Speaker 1: if a guy has a horrible repid practice, Okay, let's 294 00:16:25,920 --> 00:16:29,720 Speaker 1: see what happens. Oh man, Deante's moved on, or in 295 00:16:29,760 --> 00:16:32,000 Speaker 1: the game, oh man, he get knocked on his ass. 296 00:16:32,080 --> 00:16:35,760 Speaker 1: Let's see what happens. Oh well, he's moved on. And 297 00:16:35,920 --> 00:16:38,520 Speaker 1: then if you see guys, they'll have a great play 298 00:16:39,760 --> 00:16:42,880 Speaker 1: what's going on? And then another one what's going and 299 00:16:42,920 --> 00:16:46,000 Speaker 1: then a couple of great And then that's when you say, 300 00:16:46,160 --> 00:16:47,880 Speaker 1: I'm not sure about that guy. I'm not sure how 301 00:16:47,960 --> 00:16:50,040 Speaker 1: much I can trust that dude. But if you have 302 00:16:50,040 --> 00:16:53,240 Speaker 1: a guy that bounces back mentally and physically right away, 303 00:16:53,720 --> 00:16:56,200 Speaker 1: I think that's a huge factor in the evaluation process. 304 00:16:57,040 --> 00:16:59,720 Speaker 1: The easy answer to the who impressed you most question 305 00:16:59,840 --> 00:17:03,040 Speaker 1: was Van McPherson, Oh true. My guy though, would be 306 00:17:03,160 --> 00:17:06,840 Speaker 1: Chitabey a wuge I think he looks like a legit 307 00:17:07,560 --> 00:17:11,680 Speaker 1: quality starting cornerback, uh, second round draft pick type guy, 308 00:17:11,720 --> 00:17:14,240 Speaker 1: which is what he was by Dallas five years ago. Yeah, 309 00:17:14,359 --> 00:17:16,320 Speaker 1: I think I think he's going to have a big year. 310 00:17:17,040 --> 00:17:19,399 Speaker 1: I think if I had to pick a position group 311 00:17:19,920 --> 00:17:23,200 Speaker 1: that had the earliest impact on me and then continued, 312 00:17:23,240 --> 00:17:26,040 Speaker 1: it would be the secondary. But then it started to 313 00:17:26,080 --> 00:17:28,840 Speaker 1: get you know, sprinkled and dotted with injury, and it's like, 314 00:17:28,920 --> 00:17:31,400 Speaker 1: now you know Owen's they're not all out there, and 315 00:17:32,119 --> 00:17:34,639 Speaker 1: some practices there were as many as three guys that 316 00:17:34,880 --> 00:17:38,440 Speaker 1: you know that weren't weren't available. Um, and there there 317 00:17:38,480 --> 00:17:41,080 Speaker 1: was a major line of demarcation. I mean there were 318 00:17:41,080 --> 00:17:45,480 Speaker 1: guys and then there weren't. And we saw when Miami 319 00:17:45,560 --> 00:17:47,880 Speaker 1: put fifteen points on the board in the final less 320 00:17:47,880 --> 00:17:50,840 Speaker 1: than six minutes of a game. Um, you know that 321 00:17:50,840 --> 00:17:54,520 Speaker 1: that some of those guys weren't up to snuff. But um, yeah, 322 00:17:54,720 --> 00:17:58,080 Speaker 1: and McPherson, you're right then, I mean, McPherson is people 323 00:17:58,200 --> 00:18:01,280 Speaker 1: people have say kickers, kickers, football players, Hey, they put 324 00:18:01,320 --> 00:18:05,160 Speaker 1: points on the board. Now they're they're hugely important. And 325 00:18:05,200 --> 00:18:07,399 Speaker 1: when you have a guy that as soon as you 326 00:18:07,480 --> 00:18:10,560 Speaker 1: cross the fifty yard line, the opponent not only you 327 00:18:10,560 --> 00:18:12,879 Speaker 1: your special team's coach Darren Simons, but the opponent has 328 00:18:12,920 --> 00:18:15,600 Speaker 1: to start to think about all Jesus, they're in scoring range. 329 00:18:16,160 --> 00:18:18,800 Speaker 1: That's a huge weapon. That's a huge deal. You know, 330 00:18:19,000 --> 00:18:21,920 Speaker 1: we saw that when facing Baltimore. Look look at every 331 00:18:21,960 --> 00:18:25,920 Speaker 1: year and facing Baltimore Ravens, it's like Justin Tucker can 332 00:18:26,000 --> 00:18:30,439 Speaker 1: hit from monster yardage. Now that's somebody that can do 333 00:18:30,480 --> 00:18:32,320 Speaker 1: it for us as well. That's a that's a big 334 00:18:32,359 --> 00:18:35,840 Speaker 1: factor question from Greg. Could Thats Moss play a big 335 00:18:35,920 --> 00:18:40,959 Speaker 1: role this season potentially, you know, if they're injury, um, 336 00:18:41,119 --> 00:18:43,520 Speaker 1: it'd be interesting to see if if they lose a 337 00:18:43,640 --> 00:18:46,960 Speaker 1: tight end, depending on which tight end they lose, who's 338 00:18:47,080 --> 00:18:50,720 Speaker 1: who's the one, Shrek or Moss. If it's a receiving 339 00:18:50,800 --> 00:18:53,560 Speaker 1: tight end, probably you know, if lose a guy that 340 00:18:54,480 --> 00:18:57,399 Speaker 1: is more of a factor in the passing game, probably Moss. 341 00:18:57,480 --> 00:18:59,439 Speaker 1: If it's a guy that you know you need to 342 00:18:59,480 --> 00:19:02,280 Speaker 1: have a little bit more um, a little bit more 343 00:19:02,320 --> 00:19:05,439 Speaker 1: open to block on the on the edge, you know, 344 00:19:05,440 --> 00:19:08,760 Speaker 1: it might be Shrek um that that'd be interesting to see. 345 00:19:09,160 --> 00:19:14,439 Speaker 1: But obviously, Daddius Moss is the possessor of a ringing 346 00:19:14,520 --> 00:19:17,960 Speaker 1: endorsement from his college quarterback, and that that holds some weight. 347 00:19:18,240 --> 00:19:21,879 Speaker 1: So when you when when Joe Burrow has the faith 348 00:19:21,920 --> 00:19:25,560 Speaker 1: and the confidence and Daddius Moss that he articulated, um, 349 00:19:25,640 --> 00:19:28,880 Speaker 1: the coaches believe it, obviously, and it's a factor. So 350 00:19:28,920 --> 00:19:32,360 Speaker 1: I think I think if it's uh, if it's somewhere 351 00:19:33,280 --> 00:19:35,040 Speaker 1: at some point in the season and you have a 352 00:19:35,080 --> 00:19:37,320 Speaker 1: stretch of games where I think we need a tight 353 00:19:37,440 --> 00:19:39,920 Speaker 1: end that has has to be a receiving option or 354 00:19:39,960 --> 00:19:42,520 Speaker 1: receiving threat, I think he's probably a guy they're really 355 00:19:42,520 --> 00:19:46,000 Speaker 1: going to look at hard. Question from governor chief, what 356 00:19:46,080 --> 00:19:49,040 Speaker 1: are your expectations for Darius Hodge and how many sacks 357 00:19:49,280 --> 00:19:53,800 Speaker 1: can he rack up? That's that's what a story. What 358 00:19:53,880 --> 00:19:58,480 Speaker 1: a story. That is a guy, undrafted linebacker from Marshall 359 00:19:58,760 --> 00:20:00,960 Speaker 1: who we're talking about, how many sacks is he going 360 00:20:01,000 --> 00:20:03,200 Speaker 1: to wrap, you know, rack up as an edge rush 361 00:20:03,240 --> 00:20:07,040 Speaker 1: guy for the Bengals. I honestly, if all the edge 362 00:20:07,080 --> 00:20:09,399 Speaker 1: rush guys were healthy that we talked about, he'd be 363 00:20:09,400 --> 00:20:13,480 Speaker 1: a practice squad guy. And really, when I think about it, 364 00:20:13,720 --> 00:20:17,560 Speaker 1: that's where he probably has the best fit because you 365 00:20:17,600 --> 00:20:20,359 Speaker 1: can develop them. It'll be interesting to see how he 366 00:20:20,400 --> 00:20:24,119 Speaker 1: responds going against true studs on a regular basis. So 367 00:20:24,240 --> 00:20:27,000 Speaker 1: he does have to go in there and provide significant pressure. 368 00:20:27,040 --> 00:20:29,040 Speaker 1: And right now, you know, he's one of five guys. 369 00:20:29,080 --> 00:20:32,239 Speaker 1: I mean, he's one of the guys that that you know. 370 00:20:32,520 --> 00:20:35,040 Speaker 1: I think he's probably gonna have to fill some sort 371 00:20:35,080 --> 00:20:38,040 Speaker 1: of a role for twelve to fifteen snaps coming off 372 00:20:38,040 --> 00:20:40,480 Speaker 1: of that edge. And if he's if he's out there 373 00:20:40,480 --> 00:20:43,960 Speaker 1: for fifteen snaps a game, you know, and is accumulating 374 00:20:44,119 --> 00:20:47,960 Speaker 1: a couple of hundred rushes, I don't know. She could 375 00:20:47,960 --> 00:20:52,520 Speaker 1: he could he get as many as seven sacks possible, possible, 376 00:20:53,000 --> 00:20:56,160 Speaker 1: But I think I think now we're I think now 377 00:20:56,160 --> 00:21:00,920 Speaker 1: we're talking about best case scenarios. Obviously this question comes 378 00:21:00,960 --> 00:21:04,359 Speaker 1: from a wog the goat, but the question is not 379 00:21:04,440 --> 00:21:07,800 Speaker 1: about Chittabey a wouge. How long do you see Colleed 380 00:21:07,920 --> 00:21:12,720 Speaker 1: Kareem being out? You know, I think I think Kareem 381 00:21:12,760 --> 00:21:16,880 Speaker 1: will be out three weeks, you know, I think three weeks. Uh, 382 00:21:17,160 --> 00:21:19,640 Speaker 1: he's on age, your reserve, he can come back after 383 00:21:19,720 --> 00:21:22,959 Speaker 1: three weeks. So I think that that that is a 384 00:21:23,000 --> 00:21:26,560 Speaker 1: time frame that that makes some sense he's got a 385 00:21:26,640 --> 00:21:29,239 Speaker 1: laboring problem. It wasn't torn where it had to be 386 00:21:29,280 --> 00:21:33,560 Speaker 1: repaired surgically, so he just has to rest it and 387 00:21:33,680 --> 00:21:37,280 Speaker 1: rehabit and and those good things. But you know it's 388 00:21:37,280 --> 00:21:41,040 Speaker 1: the opposite shoulder from the shoulder that he has some 389 00:21:41,200 --> 00:21:43,840 Speaker 1: arthritis that he deals with in So I mean, now 390 00:21:43,880 --> 00:21:47,520 Speaker 1: it's likes both your shoulders when you're a when you're 391 00:21:47,520 --> 00:21:50,520 Speaker 1: a rush guy and you have to you know, you 392 00:21:50,520 --> 00:21:53,640 Speaker 1: have to use your upper body, grab, pull, swim, rip, 393 00:21:53,960 --> 00:21:57,200 Speaker 1: all these different moves. Your shoulders are vitally important. There's 394 00:21:57,240 --> 00:22:00,159 Speaker 1: no question about it. But um, he may miss the 395 00:22:00,200 --> 00:22:04,280 Speaker 1: first quarter of the season and hopefully he hopefully he 396 00:22:04,320 --> 00:22:06,360 Speaker 1: comes back. But have you ever seen a situation, Dan, 397 00:22:06,440 --> 00:22:10,320 Speaker 1: where where two guys like Osai and Kareem in the 398 00:22:10,359 --> 00:22:14,200 Speaker 1: first preseason game against Tampas in the first series makes 399 00:22:14,200 --> 00:22:17,399 Speaker 1: an impression that's just unbelievable. I mean, he beats a 400 00:22:17,440 --> 00:22:20,000 Speaker 1: tackle that gave up one sack last year and he 401 00:22:20,040 --> 00:22:23,520 Speaker 1: beats him and sacks the goat. And then Kareem in 402 00:22:24,240 --> 00:22:28,000 Speaker 1: the in the game the third preseason game, blocks a 403 00:22:28,080 --> 00:22:30,240 Speaker 1: pass and has a sack on first and third down. 404 00:22:30,320 --> 00:22:33,359 Speaker 1: The first series you know of the football game against 405 00:22:33,359 --> 00:22:36,080 Speaker 1: the Miami Dolphins and then they're both hurt. I mean, 406 00:22:36,119 --> 00:22:39,280 Speaker 1: it's just it's just unbelievable. It's like it's like, man, 407 00:22:39,320 --> 00:22:41,240 Speaker 1: this black cloud, when is it going to go away? 408 00:22:41,640 --> 00:22:45,440 Speaker 1: Both of these guys have have extreme potential coming off 409 00:22:45,440 --> 00:22:47,440 Speaker 1: the edge, and right now the Bengals are going to 410 00:22:47,480 --> 00:22:49,720 Speaker 1: be missing one for the season and one for maybe 411 00:22:49,720 --> 00:22:52,800 Speaker 1: twenty five percent of the season. This question comes from 412 00:22:52,880 --> 00:22:55,440 Speaker 1: Joe bi Wan. As we ent our year three of 413 00:22:55,560 --> 00:22:58,159 Speaker 1: Zach Taylor's tenure as our head coach, have you noticed 414 00:22:58,240 --> 00:23:00,720 Speaker 1: any changes in the culture of the team or locker 415 00:23:00,800 --> 00:23:04,280 Speaker 1: room and how about the culture of the organization in general. 416 00:23:05,520 --> 00:23:10,240 Speaker 1: I do think that that the players that he that 417 00:23:10,359 --> 00:23:13,200 Speaker 1: he brought in since he's been head coach, and of 418 00:23:13,280 --> 00:23:16,679 Speaker 1: course that's not all his decision X Duke Tobin in 419 00:23:16,680 --> 00:23:21,000 Speaker 1: the scouting department, the family, everybody's involved with these personnel 420 00:23:21,080 --> 00:23:26,240 Speaker 1: decision making process. But the fact that so many of 421 00:23:26,280 --> 00:23:28,960 Speaker 1: them are captains, so many of them have been captains 422 00:23:28,960 --> 00:23:31,920 Speaker 1: of their high school and college football teams, so many 423 00:23:31,960 --> 00:23:35,720 Speaker 1: of them have football intelligence and overall raw intelligence and 424 00:23:35,880 --> 00:23:38,920 Speaker 1: leadership qualities. As a result of it, I do think that, 425 00:23:39,560 --> 00:23:43,359 Speaker 1: um that you go around through that locker room. There's 426 00:23:43,440 --> 00:23:45,400 Speaker 1: there's no lot, not a whole lot of turds sitting 427 00:23:45,440 --> 00:23:47,440 Speaker 1: around in that locker room. I mean, there's some pretty 428 00:23:47,440 --> 00:23:50,760 Speaker 1: good people in there, and I think that I think 429 00:23:50,760 --> 00:23:55,760 Speaker 1: that the caliber of person, not only football player, has 430 00:23:55,840 --> 00:24:00,280 Speaker 1: has really increased, you know, And it's it's one thing 431 00:24:00,320 --> 00:24:03,880 Speaker 1: to be a solid citizen. You still have to play. 432 00:24:04,119 --> 00:24:07,360 Speaker 1: You still have to be able to make plays. And uh, 433 00:24:07,400 --> 00:24:11,560 Speaker 1: that was Paul Brown's big, big message. Um, you might 434 00:24:11,600 --> 00:24:14,560 Speaker 1: be a fine human being, we might like you a lot, 435 00:24:14,840 --> 00:24:16,600 Speaker 1: but if you can't play, you're not going to make 436 00:24:16,680 --> 00:24:19,639 Speaker 1: the team. So you still have to go out there 437 00:24:19,680 --> 00:24:24,159 Speaker 1: and be able to perform. So um, obviously the combination 438 00:24:24,200 --> 00:24:26,240 Speaker 1: of the two is the best case scenario. And I 439 00:24:26,359 --> 00:24:30,959 Speaker 1: think I do think, um that that the caliber of player, 440 00:24:31,200 --> 00:24:33,639 Speaker 1: the depth of the caliber of player in the in 441 00:24:33,720 --> 00:24:36,680 Speaker 1: the caliber of person, I think it's improved, I really do. 442 00:24:36,720 --> 00:24:38,920 Speaker 1: And I think I think it's there is a pretty 443 00:24:38,920 --> 00:24:41,760 Speaker 1: good culture in the locker room. Um, and I think 444 00:24:41,800 --> 00:24:45,920 Speaker 1: you know, zach Is is primarily responsible for that, but 445 00:24:46,080 --> 00:24:49,879 Speaker 1: there's no substitute for winning. Didn't Phil Sam tell you 446 00:24:49,920 --> 00:24:52,720 Speaker 1: many years ago not to use the term turret in broadcasting? 447 00:24:52,880 --> 00:24:57,520 Speaker 1: He did? This is a podcast, All that's raw, all right, yeah, 448 00:24:57,520 --> 00:24:59,639 Speaker 1: he was. It was it was classic. I used it 449 00:24:59,680 --> 00:25:03,040 Speaker 1: and nice working with you. I'm like, huh, he had 450 00:25:03,080 --> 00:25:04,800 Speaker 1: me spell it, you know that that was the thing. 451 00:25:04,840 --> 00:25:07,920 Speaker 1: It was like like, oh no, that's the little boy. 452 00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:09,960 Speaker 1: That was a quick trip. We like to end with 453 00:25:09,960 --> 00:25:12,879 Speaker 1: a wild card question. This one comes from local filmmaker 454 00:25:12,960 --> 00:25:18,520 Speaker 1: Cam Miller. What's your take on Bird's Band, the original 455 00:25:18,600 --> 00:25:23,000 Speaker 1: band of the Cincinnati Bengals. I'm trying to think of 456 00:25:23,640 --> 00:25:27,679 Speaker 1: his first name, George, George and his Shirley was the 457 00:25:27,760 --> 00:25:32,600 Speaker 1: daughter and Shirley Bird obviously, uh, you know, held on 458 00:25:32,880 --> 00:25:37,920 Speaker 1: kept up the tradition as such. Honestly, I was never 459 00:25:37,960 --> 00:25:42,760 Speaker 1: an enormous fan, to be quite honest, Um, you know, 460 00:25:42,800 --> 00:25:46,960 Speaker 1: I thought, for my wife thought it was cute. That's 461 00:25:47,000 --> 00:25:48,919 Speaker 1: that's I think that's very and I think a lot 462 00:25:49,000 --> 00:25:51,280 Speaker 1: of the Cincinnati fans there was a there was a 463 00:25:51,359 --> 00:25:54,080 Speaker 1: you know, soft spot in their heart for um, the 464 00:25:54,400 --> 00:26:00,439 Speaker 1: original Birds band. But I could have done it, to 465 00:26:00,520 --> 00:26:05,120 Speaker 1: be quite honest, But at that that stage of of 466 00:26:05,119 --> 00:26:08,479 Speaker 1: of the week, that's game day, I am I'm not 467 00:26:08,560 --> 00:26:12,240 Speaker 1: really I'm not looking at anything, I'm not listening to anything. 468 00:26:12,840 --> 00:26:16,280 Speaker 1: I did have an ability to just I mean laser 469 00:26:16,320 --> 00:26:18,879 Speaker 1: focus zone in and I felt like I had to, 470 00:26:19,200 --> 00:26:22,040 Speaker 1: you know, I didn't. I wasn't gonna allow any distractions, 471 00:26:22,160 --> 00:26:24,200 Speaker 1: you know, to be a reason that that I didn't. 472 00:26:24,960 --> 00:26:27,520 Speaker 1: You try to execute at the at the highest level 473 00:26:27,560 --> 00:26:31,359 Speaker 1: I possibly could, so I couldn't even tell you that 474 00:26:31,680 --> 00:26:35,560 Speaker 1: the uh here the Bengals growling. I do remember hearing 475 00:26:35,600 --> 00:26:38,040 Speaker 1: that sum, but that's about That's about the extent of it. 476 00:26:38,040 --> 00:26:41,320 Speaker 1: I didn't hear much else. Well, George Bird did write that, 477 00:26:41,640 --> 00:26:43,280 Speaker 1: so he hit it out of the park. He did 478 00:26:43,320 --> 00:26:45,520 Speaker 1: with the Bengals themes he did. He did hit that, 479 00:26:45,920 --> 00:26:48,680 Speaker 1: hit that out of the park. That that when when 480 00:26:48,680 --> 00:26:51,200 Speaker 1: it when it sustains itself for as long as it 481 00:26:51,280 --> 00:26:54,000 Speaker 1: did and has um, then you then you know you've 482 00:26:54,040 --> 00:26:58,120 Speaker 1: got something going speaking of here, that Bengal growling. Jay 483 00:26:58,200 --> 00:27:01,600 Speaker 1: Morrison of The Athletic Reason wrote a great story about 484 00:27:01,600 --> 00:27:04,600 Speaker 1: the history of the song, and I highly recommend reading 485 00:27:04,600 --> 00:27:07,960 Speaker 1: it if you haven't done so already. Several years ago, 486 00:27:08,320 --> 00:27:12,879 Speaker 1: I asked Bengals president Mike Brown this question about that song. 487 00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:17,680 Speaker 1: When Bengals Growl plays on the sound system at Paul 488 00:27:17,680 --> 00:27:20,200 Speaker 1: Brown's stadium after a touchdown, You know what I mean? 489 00:27:20,280 --> 00:27:24,040 Speaker 1: Here that Bengal growling, mean and angry. Do you sing 490 00:27:24,080 --> 00:27:28,679 Speaker 1: along or hum along? I can't sing it. I can't 491 00:27:28,760 --> 00:27:32,959 Speaker 1: dance either, But I'm very fond of that song because 492 00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:39,160 Speaker 1: George Bird wrote it. And George Bird was our entertainment director. 493 00:27:39,240 --> 00:27:43,000 Speaker 1: That was a title, but he was a neighbor of ours, 494 00:27:43,080 --> 00:27:45,520 Speaker 1: dating back to when I was five years old and 495 00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:48,680 Speaker 1: younger living in Masslin, or how he was a director 496 00:27:48,720 --> 00:27:54,040 Speaker 1: of the Maslin High School band, which was phenomenal, and 497 00:27:54,400 --> 00:27:57,240 Speaker 1: my dad had real respect for George and he brought 498 00:27:57,320 --> 00:28:00,840 Speaker 1: him to Cleveland when we were doing the Browns and 499 00:28:00,880 --> 00:28:04,040 Speaker 1: then down here. Let me tell you a story about 500 00:28:04,080 --> 00:28:09,520 Speaker 1: George that always amused me. He would tell the performer, 501 00:28:09,640 --> 00:28:11,920 Speaker 1: the person who was going to sing the national anthem, 502 00:28:11,960 --> 00:28:14,840 Speaker 1: to make it at a fast clip, none of the 503 00:28:14,960 --> 00:28:20,680 Speaker 1: so called creativity. Please. They would look at him and 504 00:28:20,760 --> 00:28:23,200 Speaker 1: say yes sir, and then go about doing just what 505 00:28:23,240 --> 00:28:26,639 Speaker 1: they wanted. But he had the answer to that. In 506 00:28:26,680 --> 00:28:29,800 Speaker 1: those days we had a band. He directed the band, 507 00:28:29,840 --> 00:28:31,920 Speaker 1: and he didn't care how they did it. He did 508 00:28:31,920 --> 00:28:33,680 Speaker 1: it the way he wanted to do it. It went 509 00:28:33,720 --> 00:28:36,040 Speaker 1: at that pace and they better keep up or they 510 00:28:36,080 --> 00:28:40,880 Speaker 1: were left behind. He was a wonderful musician. He wrote 511 00:28:40,920 --> 00:28:45,440 Speaker 1: that song. I think it's a great song. My wife 512 00:28:45,480 --> 00:28:48,720 Speaker 1: can sing it. She's pretty musical. She can sing well. 513 00:28:49,320 --> 00:28:52,640 Speaker 1: I think it's a great song. People can say what 514 00:28:52,680 --> 00:28:55,600 Speaker 1: they want, Oh it's corny, they say, to heck with them. 515 00:28:55,640 --> 00:28:59,480 Speaker 1: It's a great song and I'm proud of it. The 516 00:28:59,520 --> 00:29:03,600 Speaker 1: Bengals Podcast is presented by Bud Light Seltzer. It's light 517 00:29:03,720 --> 00:29:06,920 Speaker 1: and refreshing with a hint of fruit flavor. With a 518 00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:10,080 Speaker 1: regular season set to begin next week, You'll hear plenty 519 00:29:10,120 --> 00:29:13,960 Speaker 1: of football analysis on this podcast, but I have something 520 00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:18,240 Speaker 1: a little different for you today. Five offbeat questions that 521 00:29:18,400 --> 00:29:22,960 Speaker 1: I asked each of the Bengals coordinators. Up first, offensive 522 00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:27,960 Speaker 1: coordinator Brian Callahan. If you had a time machine and 523 00:29:28,080 --> 00:29:32,600 Speaker 1: could attend any sporting event in history, what would it 524 00:29:32,640 --> 00:29:37,040 Speaker 1: be and why? I think, just because I love the 525 00:29:37,240 --> 00:29:40,280 Speaker 1: history of football, I think it would be pretty fun 526 00:29:40,360 --> 00:29:43,560 Speaker 1: to go watch the first Super Bowl, just for that 527 00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:46,720 Speaker 1: simple fact that it's it's kind of what gives gives 528 00:29:46,800 --> 00:29:49,840 Speaker 1: us all her living and it's the beginning of what 529 00:29:49,880 --> 00:29:52,280 Speaker 1: it's become now and I think that would be kind 530 00:29:52,280 --> 00:29:55,400 Speaker 1: of cool to be at that game in the stands 531 00:29:55,400 --> 00:29:58,440 Speaker 1: watching it as a spectator. You know, I think, I 532 00:29:58,480 --> 00:30:02,719 Speaker 1: truthfully think probably watching Secretariat in person would have been 533 00:30:02,760 --> 00:30:05,800 Speaker 1: pretty awesome. And I know that wasn't that long ago, 534 00:30:05,840 --> 00:30:07,600 Speaker 1: but you know it was before I was born, so 535 00:30:09,080 --> 00:30:11,520 Speaker 1: that would have been pretty neat. I'll go those two. 536 00:30:11,560 --> 00:30:13,560 Speaker 1: I Now, I'll be thinking about it all day, like 537 00:30:13,600 --> 00:30:16,120 Speaker 1: what else would I want to go to? If you 538 00:30:16,160 --> 00:30:19,600 Speaker 1: could have lunch with any athlete in history, who would 539 00:30:19,600 --> 00:30:22,280 Speaker 1: it be? And why this is still possible for me 540 00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:26,120 Speaker 1: to do? But I would say because I have never 541 00:30:26,800 --> 00:30:28,760 Speaker 1: I'm trying to think where to start. When I was 542 00:30:28,760 --> 00:30:32,960 Speaker 1: a sophomore in high school by as an undersized six 543 00:30:33,000 --> 00:30:36,320 Speaker 1: foot quarterback, my kind of hero and idol at the 544 00:30:36,400 --> 00:30:40,200 Speaker 1: time was Drew Brees, who was at Purdue and I 545 00:30:40,240 --> 00:30:41,840 Speaker 1: wore fifteen when I was I was like he wore 546 00:30:41,840 --> 00:30:44,000 Speaker 1: at Purdue. I still remember him holding that rose in 547 00:30:44,040 --> 00:30:45,520 Speaker 1: his mouth when they wanted to get to Clint to 548 00:30:45,520 --> 00:30:47,760 Speaker 1: go to the Rose Bowl. And he was kind of 549 00:30:47,760 --> 00:30:50,480 Speaker 1: like my childhood and child a high school like my 550 00:30:50,600 --> 00:30:54,640 Speaker 1: kind of hero that I that I'd always admired, and 551 00:30:54,680 --> 00:30:56,960 Speaker 1: I loved watching him play. I still love I watched 552 00:30:57,040 --> 00:30:59,320 Speaker 1: him play for his whole career. I loved watching the tape. 553 00:30:59,440 --> 00:31:02,280 Speaker 1: But I have ever met Drew Brees, and we've played 554 00:31:02,280 --> 00:31:04,160 Speaker 1: the Saints a few times, and I just never went 555 00:31:04,240 --> 00:31:07,240 Speaker 1: up to go introduce myself. But that would be one 556 00:31:07,320 --> 00:31:09,160 Speaker 1: that would be one that I was had. I never 557 00:31:09,200 --> 00:31:11,520 Speaker 1: had a chance to tell Drew Brees that you were 558 00:31:11,600 --> 00:31:15,760 Speaker 1: my childhood idol. I'd love to sit down and have 559 00:31:15,840 --> 00:31:17,360 Speaker 1: lunch of them. So I think that that's what I'll 560 00:31:17,360 --> 00:31:20,520 Speaker 1: go with for that one. It's interesting because Joe Burrow 561 00:31:20,640 --> 00:31:23,520 Speaker 1: says that that was his favorite quarterback to watch. So 562 00:31:23,600 --> 00:31:27,000 Speaker 1: the guy you're coaching, you you two share the quarterback 563 00:31:27,040 --> 00:31:29,440 Speaker 1: you admire. We share an admiration for him and and 564 00:31:29,920 --> 00:31:33,200 Speaker 1: deserving weself. You know, obviously had a chance to work 565 00:31:33,200 --> 00:31:35,720 Speaker 1: with Peyton Manning, so that's a I had lots of 566 00:31:35,800 --> 00:31:38,600 Speaker 1: years of being with one of the you know, I 567 00:31:38,680 --> 00:31:42,440 Speaker 1: get Hall of Fame all time quarterback, but Drew Brees 568 00:31:42,520 --> 00:31:44,000 Speaker 1: is one that I never had a chance. I've never 569 00:31:44,080 --> 00:31:45,560 Speaker 1: had a chance to talk to him, and I think 570 00:31:45,600 --> 00:31:47,760 Speaker 1: that would be a fun That'd be fun go have 571 00:31:47,840 --> 00:31:49,640 Speaker 1: lunch of Drew Brees and and tell him how much 572 00:31:49,640 --> 00:31:53,360 Speaker 1: i'd how much I appreciated watching him play. What coach 573 00:31:53,480 --> 00:31:56,720 Speaker 1: that you played for had the biggest impact on you 574 00:31:57,160 --> 00:32:02,400 Speaker 1: probably my high school coach, Um Bob Laddiser was a 575 00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:04,200 Speaker 1: head coach of deals at high school, and then our 576 00:32:04,280 --> 00:32:08,880 Speaker 1: quarterbacks coach there, Mark Pinella. He just actually just recently 577 00:32:08,920 --> 00:32:13,080 Speaker 1: retired from coaching, And those were the two people that 578 00:32:13,240 --> 00:32:17,240 Speaker 1: had probably, you know, the most impressionable age that I 579 00:32:17,360 --> 00:32:21,440 Speaker 1: was probably most formed by, just philosophy, all of those 580 00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:24,200 Speaker 1: types of things. They were a big part of what 581 00:32:24,320 --> 00:32:26,320 Speaker 1: I believe football is supposed to be and all of 582 00:32:26,360 --> 00:32:29,720 Speaker 1: those things. So I'll go with Bob Laddiser and Mark Pinella. 583 00:32:30,400 --> 00:32:33,560 Speaker 1: Last thing, have you binge watched a TV show? And 584 00:32:33,760 --> 00:32:36,040 Speaker 1: if so, what's your favorite? BINGE watched a few of 585 00:32:36,120 --> 00:32:42,120 Speaker 1: them this summer. I loved ted Lasso. That's a great show. Um, 586 00:32:42,920 --> 00:32:45,080 Speaker 1: I'm excited for the second season. And then I did 587 00:32:45,080 --> 00:32:48,400 Speaker 1: binge watch Yellowstone this summer, which was phenomenal. That was 588 00:32:48,480 --> 00:32:51,800 Speaker 1: That's an excellent show. And those are the two that 589 00:32:51,800 --> 00:32:53,520 Speaker 1: I spent the summer. Those are the two I watched 590 00:32:53,520 --> 00:32:56,440 Speaker 1: this summer. I'm also I really like Peaky Blinders too. 591 00:32:56,480 --> 00:32:59,480 Speaker 1: Those are those are kind of my I like the 592 00:32:59,480 --> 00:33:02,080 Speaker 1: the intense shows that you're gonna put a belief sign 593 00:33:02,200 --> 00:33:04,240 Speaker 1: up in your office in honor of Ted lass, I 594 00:33:04,280 --> 00:33:07,200 Speaker 1: should I saw somebody at a teacher I got gotta 595 00:33:07,240 --> 00:33:10,680 Speaker 1: find that might buy and start wearing it. I'm with 596 00:33:10,760 --> 00:33:13,959 Speaker 1: him on Ted Lasso. In fact, I've been thinking of 597 00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:18,000 Speaker 1: buying some Richmond Greyhounds gear. If you don't watch the show, 598 00:33:18,440 --> 00:33:22,680 Speaker 1: that's the fictional soccer team that Ted coaches. Up next 599 00:33:23,120 --> 00:33:27,320 Speaker 1: defensive coordinator Lou at a Romo. All right, if you 600 00:33:27,440 --> 00:33:31,240 Speaker 1: had a time machine and could attend any sporting event 601 00:33:31,800 --> 00:33:35,560 Speaker 1: in history, not necessarily football, although it obviously could be, 602 00:33:35,920 --> 00:33:38,960 Speaker 1: But what would that sporting event be? I would probably 603 00:33:39,080 --> 00:33:43,320 Speaker 1: say the Miracle on Ice. I mean, I've watched the movie. 604 00:33:43,400 --> 00:33:46,600 Speaker 1: I watched it. I was old enough to but I 605 00:33:46,680 --> 00:33:49,760 Speaker 1: was young, and just to be in that stadium to 606 00:33:49,840 --> 00:33:53,280 Speaker 1: witness that, I think that would be pretty pretty awesome. 607 00:33:53,920 --> 00:33:57,080 Speaker 1: That's my answer as well. If you could have lunch 608 00:33:57,400 --> 00:34:02,680 Speaker 1: with any athlete in history, who would it be? And why? Well, 609 00:34:02,640 --> 00:34:05,040 Speaker 1: I'll just I'll play some favorite New York favoritism here 610 00:34:05,040 --> 00:34:09,360 Speaker 1: would probably be Derek Jeter, just because again, you know, 611 00:34:09,400 --> 00:34:12,440 Speaker 1: you watched the guy over twenty years and all he 612 00:34:12,440 --> 00:34:14,600 Speaker 1: did was win, and he did it the right way, 613 00:34:15,239 --> 00:34:17,399 Speaker 1: and to be able to ask him some questions about that. 614 00:34:17,400 --> 00:34:20,960 Speaker 1: That would be I'd be pretty cool. Who is your 615 00:34:20,960 --> 00:34:24,200 Speaker 1: favorite athlete when you were a kid, and why, Well, 616 00:34:24,200 --> 00:34:27,600 Speaker 1: probably you go. When I was young, I would say 617 00:34:27,640 --> 00:34:30,920 Speaker 1: probably Lawrence Taylor. I was a huge Giant fan growing up, 618 00:34:30,960 --> 00:34:36,680 Speaker 1: and I mean one of the best defenders ever. So 619 00:34:36,719 --> 00:34:40,080 Speaker 1: I would say LT for sure. And I remember chanting 620 00:34:40,400 --> 00:34:43,000 Speaker 1: LT a lot when I was a kid, So probably 621 00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:44,839 Speaker 1: be him. He'd like to have him right now. Oh 622 00:34:44,880 --> 00:34:50,440 Speaker 1: my god, everybody would What coach that you played for 623 00:34:51,080 --> 00:34:55,680 Speaker 1: had the biggest impact on you? My high school coach, Alpaterzo, 624 00:34:57,080 --> 00:35:03,920 Speaker 1: just from overall being a young kid, teaching toughness, and 625 00:35:04,719 --> 00:35:07,359 Speaker 1: I was a great teacher of the game and as 626 00:35:07,400 --> 00:35:10,160 Speaker 1: the winning is football coach in New York City history. 627 00:35:11,480 --> 00:35:13,680 Speaker 1: So to this day we're still best of friends, and 628 00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:17,360 Speaker 1: so we'll be him. Have you? Binge watched a TV 629 00:35:17,480 --> 00:35:21,439 Speaker 1: show and if still, what's your favorite? Um My wife 630 00:35:21,440 --> 00:35:23,719 Speaker 1: had me pretty busy this summer, so there wasn't much 631 00:35:23,760 --> 00:35:31,000 Speaker 1: TV watching, so I really didn't do much of that 632 00:35:32,640 --> 00:35:37,680 Speaker 1: Game of Thrones. Game of Thrones, so it's damn good. 633 00:35:38,640 --> 00:35:40,640 Speaker 1: Now I'm not using the internet stuff, but that was good. 634 00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:44,800 Speaker 1: My wife and I also Binge watched Game of Thrones. 635 00:35:45,239 --> 00:35:48,439 Speaker 1: When the villains on that show get what's coming to them, 636 00:35:48,880 --> 00:35:53,160 Speaker 1: it's about as satisfying as TV gets. Last, but not least, 637 00:35:53,440 --> 00:35:57,480 Speaker 1: Special Teams coordinator Darren Simmons. If you had a time 638 00:35:57,480 --> 00:36:01,240 Speaker 1: machine and could attend any sporting event in history, doesn't 639 00:36:01,239 --> 00:36:04,520 Speaker 1: necessarily have to be football, although it could be. What 640 00:36:04,640 --> 00:36:08,319 Speaker 1: would that event be and why? Probably would have said 641 00:36:09,160 --> 00:36:12,520 Speaker 1: one of the games for my dad's high school year 642 00:36:12,520 --> 00:36:15,319 Speaker 1: of football. Um, you know, I think he was a 643 00:36:15,320 --> 00:36:17,120 Speaker 1: good high school player. He never got to play in 644 00:36:17,160 --> 00:36:23,800 Speaker 1: college because my granddad died not long after he graduated 645 00:36:23,800 --> 00:36:25,720 Speaker 1: from high school. But he never got to play in college, 646 00:36:25,760 --> 00:36:27,120 Speaker 1: so probably would have been one of the games my 647 00:36:27,200 --> 00:36:29,759 Speaker 1: dad played in high school and football games. Was he 648 00:36:29,840 --> 00:36:32,960 Speaker 1: a good athlete? Yeah, he was. I think he was. Um, 649 00:36:33,120 --> 00:36:38,680 Speaker 1: you know, like I said, just because my family were farmers. Um, 650 00:36:38,719 --> 00:36:40,360 Speaker 1: he kind of to take over the family farm, so 651 00:36:40,400 --> 00:36:43,120 Speaker 1: he never got the opportunity to, um, you know, go 652 00:36:43,200 --> 00:36:46,040 Speaker 1: on and play after that, so they probably would have 653 00:36:46,080 --> 00:36:48,759 Speaker 1: been there. It's great if you could have lunch with 654 00:36:48,800 --> 00:36:52,360 Speaker 1: any athlete in history, who would it be and why? 655 00:36:52,440 --> 00:36:56,800 Speaker 1: That's a good one too. Joe Montana and Joe Montana 656 00:36:56,920 --> 00:36:58,759 Speaker 1: was you know when I was growing up. Was was 657 00:36:58,800 --> 00:37:00,919 Speaker 1: the guy. He was probably the time Brady of this era. 658 00:37:01,480 --> 00:37:05,200 Speaker 1: And you know all the success that he had in 659 00:37:05,239 --> 00:37:08,480 Speaker 1: San Francisco and led all those teams in San Francisco, 660 00:37:08,520 --> 00:37:10,799 Speaker 1: but he had success in Kansas City, you know after that, 661 00:37:10,840 --> 00:37:14,040 Speaker 1: which is closer to where I'm from, Um, it'll probably 662 00:37:14,040 --> 00:37:17,759 Speaker 1: be him. This could be the same answer, but not necessarily. 663 00:37:17,760 --> 00:37:19,839 Speaker 1: Who is your favorite athlete when you were a kid? 664 00:37:20,760 --> 00:37:25,000 Speaker 1: This is this is close. Probably George Brett. Um. I 665 00:37:25,080 --> 00:37:28,239 Speaker 1: was a Royals fan. Again, beamed from the Midwest Ben 666 00:37:28,239 --> 00:37:32,200 Speaker 1: before I was from UM, and it was just you know, 667 00:37:32,680 --> 00:37:35,120 Speaker 1: it was the time the Royals were a solid team. 668 00:37:35,160 --> 00:37:36,640 Speaker 1: You know they've kind of been through their share of 669 00:37:36,719 --> 00:37:41,400 Speaker 1: ups and downs. But um, probably George Brett. What coach 670 00:37:41,480 --> 00:37:45,839 Speaker 1: that you played for had the biggest impact? Again, Um, 671 00:37:45,880 --> 00:37:48,600 Speaker 1: Glenn Mason my high school excuse me, my high school 672 00:37:48,640 --> 00:37:52,240 Speaker 1: college coach of Kansas. UM. You know, going to KU, 673 00:37:52,360 --> 00:37:54,680 Speaker 1: we were a team, we were kind of on the 674 00:37:54,800 --> 00:37:58,360 Speaker 1: verge whenever I went there of turning the corner. Kansas 675 00:37:58,440 --> 00:38:01,440 Speaker 1: has been such a down tribe program for so long 676 00:38:03,320 --> 00:38:06,400 Speaker 1: that they went to a bowl game, uh in ninety three, 677 00:38:06,840 --> 00:38:09,440 Speaker 1: the year before I got there, and so they're just 678 00:38:09,480 --> 00:38:13,839 Speaker 1: starting to trend upwards. And I think the one thing 679 00:38:13,880 --> 00:38:19,160 Speaker 1: why I say that is because he really really pushed 680 00:38:19,320 --> 00:38:22,520 Speaker 1: the players there to be better than what they thought 681 00:38:22,520 --> 00:38:24,200 Speaker 1: they could. I think that's a job of every coach. 682 00:38:24,280 --> 00:38:26,520 Speaker 1: But I think in Kansas we probably weren't the most 683 00:38:26,520 --> 00:38:28,600 Speaker 1: talented group. You know, this is the my senior years, 684 00:38:28,680 --> 00:38:30,719 Speaker 1: last year, the Big Eight, and so I think that 685 00:38:30,800 --> 00:38:34,960 Speaker 1: he got the most out of the talent level of 686 00:38:34,960 --> 00:38:38,479 Speaker 1: that team and we were able to have a good season. 687 00:38:38,560 --> 00:38:41,640 Speaker 1: My senior year in ninety five, I think we were 688 00:38:41,680 --> 00:38:44,279 Speaker 1: tending to you know, we finished like nineth or tenth 689 00:38:44,280 --> 00:38:47,799 Speaker 1: in the country. And I really respect the way he 690 00:38:48,080 --> 00:38:53,520 Speaker 1: how hard he pushed guys to excel and to really 691 00:38:53,520 --> 00:38:56,600 Speaker 1: to believe in himself. So, you know, he really a 692 00:38:56,640 --> 00:38:59,640 Speaker 1: lot of the foundations and stuff um that I even 693 00:38:59,719 --> 00:39:02,000 Speaker 1: used day are a result of him because I played 694 00:39:02,000 --> 00:39:04,680 Speaker 1: for him um And then Scott O'Brien would be another one. 695 00:39:04,680 --> 00:39:06,640 Speaker 1: I never played for him, but I worked under and 696 00:39:06,719 --> 00:39:08,879 Speaker 1: so a lot of the you know, everything that I'm 697 00:39:08,920 --> 00:39:12,239 Speaker 1: about is what they were about. My last one. Have 698 00:39:12,360 --> 00:39:15,160 Speaker 1: you ever Binge watched a TV show and if sell, 699 00:39:15,239 --> 00:39:19,920 Speaker 1: what's your favorite? I've Binge watched a couple of them. Um. 700 00:39:20,120 --> 00:39:23,160 Speaker 1: The last one that I binge watched, it was through 701 00:39:23,200 --> 00:39:25,399 Speaker 1: the pandemic, was Game of Thrones. I've always heard about 702 00:39:25,440 --> 00:39:28,279 Speaker 1: Game of Thrones. I've never watched any of them. Um, 703 00:39:28,320 --> 00:39:30,239 Speaker 1: But then I would get up early every morning before 704 00:39:30,280 --> 00:39:31,960 Speaker 1: the rest of my familys have to watch it. It's 705 00:39:32,000 --> 00:39:37,279 Speaker 1: not probably the most family worthy show to watch. That's 706 00:39:37,280 --> 00:39:38,520 Speaker 1: why I have to get up early to do it. 707 00:39:38,560 --> 00:39:42,719 Speaker 1: But I just I couldn't believe the outdoor scenes, some 708 00:39:42,760 --> 00:39:45,480 Speaker 1: of the graphics scenes, you know. It was just it 709 00:39:45,560 --> 00:39:49,520 Speaker 1: was a crazy show. Um. The other one is uh 710 00:39:50,520 --> 00:39:54,319 Speaker 1: Ozark all on Netflix. I'm on Big O's are Big 711 00:39:54,360 --> 00:39:59,240 Speaker 1: Big O's art um person, So I've I've watched all those. Um. 712 00:39:59,719 --> 00:40:03,520 Speaker 1: The that I've probably beinge watched before two is Yellowstone 713 00:40:04,440 --> 00:40:09,240 Speaker 1: with Kevin Costner. I really enjoy that one too. Probably 714 00:40:09,239 --> 00:40:11,040 Speaker 1: those three are the ones I could say I'm not 715 00:40:11,400 --> 00:40:13,759 Speaker 1: a big binge watcher, though I don't. It's hard to 716 00:40:13,800 --> 00:40:15,000 Speaker 1: find the time to sit down in front of the 717 00:40:15,000 --> 00:40:17,319 Speaker 1: TV for one time. But those would be three. I 718 00:40:17,320 --> 00:40:19,880 Speaker 1: haven't watched Yellowstone yet, but I can watch for the 719 00:40:19,920 --> 00:40:22,279 Speaker 1: other two. Yeah, but the yellostone's really good. I mean, 720 00:40:22,320 --> 00:40:26,719 Speaker 1: it's it Uh. Kevin Cosser is a fabulous actor, and 721 00:40:26,800 --> 00:40:28,520 Speaker 1: I think everybody on that show is good. I've been 722 00:40:28,520 --> 00:40:31,280 Speaker 1: sitting there waiting. I thought the next season was supposed 723 00:40:31,280 --> 00:40:33,080 Speaker 1: to come out in June. It hadn't been released yet, 724 00:40:33,120 --> 00:40:36,360 Speaker 1: so I don't know what the paramount, I paramount network, 725 00:40:36,440 --> 00:40:38,440 Speaker 1: what the hold up is, but I can't wait to 726 00:40:38,440 --> 00:40:42,000 Speaker 1: see the next season. My thanks to Brian lew and 727 00:40:42,080 --> 00:40:44,280 Speaker 1: Darren and that's going to do it for this episode 728 00:40:44,280 --> 00:40:47,400 Speaker 1: of the Bengals Booth Podcast, brought to you by bud Light. 729 00:40:47,480 --> 00:40:50,720 Speaker 1: Seltzer refreshed the game. If you haven't done so already, 730 00:40:50,800 --> 00:40:52,600 Speaker 1: please subscribe and if you have a minute, give it 731 00:40:52,640 --> 00:40:56,000 Speaker 1: a rating or share a comment. 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