1 00:00:06,080 --> 00:00:10,480 Speaker 1: Welcome bird Gang, and to paraphrase Bill Belichick, it's on 2 00:00:10,640 --> 00:00:13,560 Speaker 1: to Washington. That's right. Forty nine Ers win is in 3 00:00:13,600 --> 00:00:17,599 Speaker 1: the rearview mirror, and don't expect any hangover comes Sunday. 4 00:00:17,680 --> 00:00:20,840 Speaker 1: This team knows it hasn't accomplished anything yet and that's 5 00:00:20,880 --> 00:00:24,040 Speaker 1: the right attitude. Washington, like the forty nine Ers, has 6 00:00:24,079 --> 00:00:27,840 Speaker 1: an excellent defensive line. In fact, they are causing anxiety 7 00:00:28,040 --> 00:00:31,720 Speaker 1: for head coach Cliff Kingsbury. Plus Chase Edmonds. Is it 8 00:00:31,840 --> 00:00:35,640 Speaker 1: time for him to get more touches? It's Cardinals Cover two, 9 00:00:35,800 --> 00:00:44,280 Speaker 1: Episode three twelve, and it starts now. Welcome to Cardinals 10 00:00:44,320 --> 00:00:48,240 Speaker 1: Cover two with Craig grigolew and Mike Jarecki. Cardinals Cover 11 00:00:48,360 --> 00:00:51,839 Speaker 1: two is presented by Hun Day, proud partner of the 12 00:00:51,880 --> 00:00:57,520 Speaker 1: Arizona Cardinals, and by Arizona Cardinals Podcasts visit acy Cardinals 13 00:00:57,560 --> 00:01:00,920 Speaker 1: dot Com, Slash Podcasts. Murray all to the right, throws 14 00:01:00,960 --> 00:01:03,080 Speaker 1: near side of Fred's pot. He hes into the ends 15 00:01:03,080 --> 00:01:09,160 Speaker 1: off to the touchdown. Here's Craig Griolou and Mike Jarecki. Well, 16 00:01:09,200 --> 00:01:11,600 Speaker 1: I don't know about you, MJ, but if we are 17 00:01:11,640 --> 00:01:16,160 Speaker 1: going to continue to practice in the mornings, I'm digging 18 00:01:16,240 --> 00:01:20,319 Speaker 1: this seventy eight seventy nine degree weather here in Tampee 19 00:01:21,080 --> 00:01:24,000 Speaker 1: because it looks beyondest. We don't get it a lot 20 00:01:24,160 --> 00:01:26,240 Speaker 1: during this time, but we are starting to see that 21 00:01:26,319 --> 00:01:29,119 Speaker 1: calendar switch just a little bit. It was gorgeous out 22 00:01:29,120 --> 00:01:31,520 Speaker 1: of practice today. Yeah, and it's been like you know, 23 00:01:31,760 --> 00:01:33,920 Speaker 1: last week too. And you can always tell when it's 24 00:01:33,920 --> 00:01:36,000 Speaker 1: cooling down. Now. I know we're still going to have 25 00:01:36,000 --> 00:01:38,880 Speaker 1: a hundred degrees and I always talk about Halloween where 26 00:01:38,880 --> 00:01:41,360 Speaker 1: it could still be hot, but you can tell from 27 00:01:41,400 --> 00:01:43,399 Speaker 1: the mornings and the evenings where it cools down a 28 00:01:43,400 --> 00:01:45,560 Speaker 1: little bit. And you know, some we haven't had the 29 00:01:45,600 --> 00:01:48,000 Speaker 1: monsoon season like we probably should have. But for the 30 00:01:48,000 --> 00:01:51,000 Speaker 1: most part, yeah, it's and I really like Cliff talking 31 00:01:51,040 --> 00:01:53,880 Speaker 1: to us, you know on Wednesdays at seven am, you know, 32 00:01:53,960 --> 00:01:57,200 Speaker 1: kind of planning your day. He actually said that we 33 00:01:57,240 --> 00:01:59,680 Speaker 1: all look good in the morning. That was last week. 34 00:01:59,680 --> 00:02:03,720 Speaker 1: He didn't make any components today. But yeah, I think 35 00:02:03,800 --> 00:02:06,840 Speaker 1: it's it's I think if we fast forward when you 36 00:02:06,920 --> 00:02:09,640 Speaker 1: got four or five East Coast teams and back to 37 00:02:09,680 --> 00:02:13,000 Speaker 1: back weeks, this is you know, if you start practicing, 38 00:02:13,720 --> 00:02:16,560 Speaker 1: you know, or eight o'clock to ten o'clock that's obviously 39 00:02:16,600 --> 00:02:19,760 Speaker 1: three hours ahead, so maybe the body clock will help out. 40 00:02:19,800 --> 00:02:22,160 Speaker 1: But we'll worry about that when we get there. Yeah, 41 00:02:22,200 --> 00:02:23,880 Speaker 1: I didn't think about that, but that's a good point, 42 00:02:23,960 --> 00:02:27,280 Speaker 1: not only practicing because of the weather it's a lot cooler, 43 00:02:27,360 --> 00:02:31,880 Speaker 1: but because there are several trips back east, and we know, well, 44 00:02:32,160 --> 00:02:34,760 Speaker 1: we know the Cardinal's history going from west to east. 45 00:02:34,760 --> 00:02:37,320 Speaker 1: It has improved over the last couple of seasons, but 46 00:02:37,440 --> 00:02:41,040 Speaker 1: for a while there it was almost impossible for this 47 00:02:41,120 --> 00:02:44,440 Speaker 1: team to win on the East coast. Well, they usually 48 00:02:44,520 --> 00:02:47,480 Speaker 1: start off pretty good. You know, the year they went 49 00:02:47,520 --> 00:02:50,480 Speaker 1: to the Greenbrier, they beat the Lions, and then you know, 50 00:02:50,560 --> 00:02:53,400 Speaker 1: I think everyone was thrilled that Roethlisberger wasn't playing. And 51 00:02:53,440 --> 00:02:55,240 Speaker 1: then the next thing, you know, Mike Vick gets hurt 52 00:02:55,240 --> 00:02:58,440 Speaker 1: and you're like no, and it was Landry Jones. And 53 00:02:58,480 --> 00:03:00,440 Speaker 1: then I remember when they played in a warm Orleans 54 00:03:00,919 --> 00:03:04,720 Speaker 1: they lost three players in that game, including Rashaw Johnson's 55 00:03:04,919 --> 00:03:07,040 Speaker 1: tip of his finger. Then they went down to Tampa. 56 00:03:07,080 --> 00:03:10,920 Speaker 1: I think they split there. So I mean, just you 57 00:03:11,000 --> 00:03:12,720 Speaker 1: definitely want to if you get the first one, you 58 00:03:12,760 --> 00:03:15,440 Speaker 1: want to get greedy and sweet. But I think going 59 00:03:15,480 --> 00:03:18,359 Speaker 1: in you would sign up for a split. Now. When 60 00:03:18,360 --> 00:03:20,360 Speaker 1: we talk about who they're playing in New York, the 61 00:03:20,440 --> 00:03:24,320 Speaker 1: Jets and Giants, I mean, based on their rosters, I 62 00:03:24,320 --> 00:03:27,200 Speaker 1: would go first suite there, But we know it's the 63 00:03:27,320 --> 00:03:32,320 Speaker 1: NFL and anything can happen on paper versus on the grass, 64 00:03:32,360 --> 00:03:35,720 Speaker 1: and so far through one game, the Cardinals better on 65 00:03:35,880 --> 00:03:39,520 Speaker 1: the grass. We'll see if it continues this week against Washington. 66 00:03:39,560 --> 00:03:43,080 Speaker 1: A couple of news items concerning the Cardinals won. On 67 00:03:43,120 --> 00:03:46,320 Speaker 1: the injury front, Kingsbury didn't have a definitive update on 68 00:03:46,360 --> 00:03:49,960 Speaker 1: either center Mason Cole or safety Jalen Thompson. Good however, 69 00:03:50,040 --> 00:03:53,120 Speaker 1: to see Cole working out on the side as opposed 70 00:03:53,160 --> 00:03:55,800 Speaker 1: to not being seen at all. We'll keep an update 71 00:03:56,160 --> 00:04:00,840 Speaker 1: on that. Plus Keyshawn Johnson no new update on him 72 00:04:01,000 --> 00:04:04,520 Speaker 1: on the COVID nineteen restricted list, so we'll kind of 73 00:04:04,560 --> 00:04:08,360 Speaker 1: monitor that. Kingsbury called it unfortunate because of how well 74 00:04:08,480 --> 00:04:12,320 Speaker 1: Johnson had played in training camp, and I think was 75 00:04:12,400 --> 00:04:14,720 Speaker 1: going to be a factor. I don't know how much 76 00:04:14,720 --> 00:04:16,279 Speaker 1: of a factor, but he was going to be a 77 00:04:16,279 --> 00:04:19,480 Speaker 1: part of this offense. Yeah, And he also mentioned that 78 00:04:19,520 --> 00:04:22,360 Speaker 1: he had an outstanding training camp and he was probably 79 00:04:22,400 --> 00:04:24,520 Speaker 1: one of the more underrated players and I think they've 80 00:04:24,600 --> 00:04:28,000 Speaker 1: used that with Chase Edmonds and Keyshaw Johnson and those guys. 81 00:04:28,520 --> 00:04:31,200 Speaker 1: You know, they're going to get their opportunities. Now again, 82 00:04:31,240 --> 00:04:34,239 Speaker 1: how many wide receivers they going to address? They feel 83 00:04:34,240 --> 00:04:37,640 Speaker 1: like if they maybe spread out the Washington football team, 84 00:04:37,800 --> 00:04:39,960 Speaker 1: maybe they're gonna have to address all the receivers. We know, 85 00:04:40,080 --> 00:04:43,400 Speaker 1: Surefield's kind of been limited when it comes to reps 86 00:04:43,440 --> 00:04:45,919 Speaker 1: at wide receiver, but he's been a special team's demon. 87 00:04:46,040 --> 00:04:48,040 Speaker 1: So yeah, I don't know if he would have been 88 00:04:48,080 --> 00:04:51,400 Speaker 1: active last week. And what I was told, Craig, you're 89 00:04:51,400 --> 00:04:54,400 Speaker 1: ready for this. What I was told that they're really 90 00:04:54,400 --> 00:04:58,320 Speaker 1: trying to increase Andy Isabella's reps. Okay, that would be 91 00:04:58,360 --> 00:05:01,159 Speaker 1: good because that's been wing point for a lot of 92 00:05:01,200 --> 00:05:04,479 Speaker 1: the Bird gang out there. Second round draft pick didn't 93 00:05:04,520 --> 00:05:06,320 Speaker 1: do a whole heck of a lot a year ago 94 00:05:06,400 --> 00:05:08,960 Speaker 1: aside from that eighty eight yard touchdown against the forty 95 00:05:09,040 --> 00:05:12,520 Speaker 1: nine ers, and was in for a handful of offensive 96 00:05:12,560 --> 00:05:17,200 Speaker 1: snaps this past week, but never thrown to anytime they 97 00:05:17,240 --> 00:05:21,120 Speaker 1: went four wide. According to Kyle Odegard, he was the 98 00:05:21,160 --> 00:05:23,440 Speaker 1: fourth wide receiver out there, so it is part of 99 00:05:23,440 --> 00:05:26,960 Speaker 1: their packages. You know, initially we thought maybe he'd be 100 00:05:26,960 --> 00:05:30,640 Speaker 1: the punt returner, but obviously they want a little bit 101 00:05:30,680 --> 00:05:34,120 Speaker 1: more security with Christian Kirk Jase Semons getting a chance 102 00:05:34,120 --> 00:05:38,120 Speaker 1: to return kicks. So again, but I was told that 103 00:05:38,160 --> 00:05:41,320 Speaker 1: they want to get any Isabella more involved because of 104 00:05:41,360 --> 00:05:43,679 Speaker 1: the skill set, and when you're a third or fourth 105 00:05:43,680 --> 00:05:46,880 Speaker 1: wide receiver, you're probably going against a nickel or a 106 00:05:46,960 --> 00:05:49,880 Speaker 1: linebacker or safety. So it looks it may not happen 107 00:05:50,000 --> 00:05:52,720 Speaker 1: right away, but that's the plan moving forward. And I'm 108 00:05:52,760 --> 00:05:55,680 Speaker 1: glad you brought up Isabella and the punt return. Yes, 109 00:05:56,080 --> 00:05:59,599 Speaker 1: on the depth chart, he's listed as first team, although 110 00:05:59,600 --> 00:06:03,320 Speaker 1: as we've discussed, it's very unofficial. It's not something that 111 00:06:03,400 --> 00:06:06,279 Speaker 1: the head coach signs and says, this is what our 112 00:06:06,320 --> 00:06:09,920 Speaker 1: plan is. So right now, Christian Kirk fielding punts, Chase 113 00:06:10,080 --> 00:06:13,119 Speaker 1: Edmonds on kickoff return. We'll see if that changes. Certainly 114 00:06:13,160 --> 00:06:16,320 Speaker 1: would love to see Isabella Moore involved, but we say 115 00:06:16,360 --> 00:06:19,880 Speaker 1: that about everyone that is not a part of whatether 116 00:06:20,000 --> 00:06:22,960 Speaker 1: the offense or defense is doing at the moment. Well, 117 00:06:23,000 --> 00:06:26,280 Speaker 1: I think, Jeff Rogers, I mean, I just think, you know, 118 00:06:26,920 --> 00:06:28,920 Speaker 1: they haven't tapped on his shoulder and say you can't 119 00:06:29,040 --> 00:06:31,480 Speaker 1: use Christian Kirk, and you know, let's be honest, he 120 00:06:32,520 --> 00:06:35,960 Speaker 1: was targeted five times. He had catched for zero yards, 121 00:06:35,960 --> 00:06:39,400 Speaker 1: so you know, obviously fresh legs, and you know Kirk 122 00:06:39,440 --> 00:06:41,360 Speaker 1: wants to do as much as he can to get 123 00:06:41,400 --> 00:06:44,039 Speaker 1: the ball in his hand, so it's another opportunity. I 124 00:06:44,120 --> 00:06:47,320 Speaker 1: still think Andy could be a guy that can if 125 00:06:47,360 --> 00:06:50,800 Speaker 1: he gets past that first level or containment, he has 126 00:06:50,839 --> 00:06:53,000 Speaker 1: the ability to take it to the house. Not saying Kirk, 127 00:06:53,040 --> 00:06:55,000 Speaker 1: because I don't know two years, three years ago you 128 00:06:55,040 --> 00:06:58,080 Speaker 1: were saying, man, he's close. And that's something they haven't 129 00:06:58,080 --> 00:07:00,479 Speaker 1: really gotten from their return units the last couple of years. 130 00:07:00,480 --> 00:07:03,440 Speaker 1: That forty one yard coming out of the end zone 131 00:07:03,520 --> 00:07:06,840 Speaker 1: or that kickoff return that gave great field position. You 132 00:07:06,839 --> 00:07:10,320 Speaker 1: just haven't had that. Yeah, it's something that's been missing 133 00:07:10,440 --> 00:07:13,080 Speaker 1: and I'm sure would love to be corrected this season. 134 00:07:13,160 --> 00:07:16,480 Speaker 1: On the special team's part, Zane Gonzalez. The question was 135 00:07:16,560 --> 00:07:20,320 Speaker 1: asked of Kingsbury about Gonzalez because he did miss two 136 00:07:20,400 --> 00:07:24,480 Speaker 1: field goals on Sunday, forty nine and fifty two yards out, 137 00:07:24,480 --> 00:07:28,320 Speaker 1: both wide right, both long distance field goals. He did, though, 138 00:07:28,400 --> 00:07:31,160 Speaker 1: hit the fifty six yarder right before the end of 139 00:07:31,200 --> 00:07:34,840 Speaker 1: the first hap, which was huge for that comeback victory 140 00:07:34,880 --> 00:07:37,040 Speaker 1: for the Cardinals on Sunday. But according to the head 141 00:07:37,040 --> 00:07:41,880 Speaker 1: coach quote, we feel very comfortable with Zane end quote. 142 00:07:41,880 --> 00:07:44,240 Speaker 1: And I went back looked at some of his numbers 143 00:07:44,280 --> 00:07:49,680 Speaker 1: a year ago from forty yards and beyond seven of ten, 144 00:07:50,320 --> 00:07:55,280 Speaker 1: so small sample size. He's one of three from beyond 145 00:07:55,400 --> 00:07:58,760 Speaker 1: forty yards this season. Although coach did mention, hey, we 146 00:07:58,880 --> 00:08:01,440 Speaker 1: got to put him in better situations and not have 147 00:08:01,600 --> 00:08:05,000 Speaker 1: them out there for kicks of forty five plus yards 148 00:08:05,000 --> 00:08:07,800 Speaker 1: out because as good as kickers are and can be, 149 00:08:08,160 --> 00:08:11,760 Speaker 1: those are still difficult field goals to make. Yeah, those 150 00:08:11,760 --> 00:08:14,400 Speaker 1: are not chip shots, and you know you don't want 151 00:08:14,440 --> 00:08:17,720 Speaker 1: them kicking you know, nineteen to twenty three yards because 152 00:08:17,720 --> 00:08:21,720 Speaker 1: that means you stalled in the red zone. Now you 153 00:08:21,760 --> 00:08:25,000 Speaker 1: start looking at the numbers. Craig and I think people 154 00:08:25,040 --> 00:08:27,560 Speaker 1: got a chance to see what happened with Stephen Gaskowski 155 00:08:28,000 --> 00:08:30,400 Speaker 1: and gratefully for him, he made that last kick and 156 00:08:30,440 --> 00:08:32,040 Speaker 1: he's going to keep his job. I think his body 157 00:08:32,080 --> 00:08:34,120 Speaker 1: of works. This guy was a really effective kicker in 158 00:08:34,160 --> 00:08:39,079 Speaker 1: New England. But right now, going into Week two, kicking 159 00:08:39,280 --> 00:08:42,200 Speaker 1: is seventy one percent. It's been the lowest in a 160 00:08:42,240 --> 00:08:45,720 Speaker 1: long time, and according to Jay Feeley, because you didn't 161 00:08:45,720 --> 00:08:49,560 Speaker 1: have any preseason games. It's hard to simulating practice. You're 162 00:08:49,600 --> 00:08:51,800 Speaker 1: never gonna have eleven guys just rush. You're gonna have 163 00:08:51,800 --> 00:08:54,320 Speaker 1: a guy's man up, that's your guy, that's your guy. 164 00:08:54,800 --> 00:08:57,360 Speaker 1: Where at least in the preseason, whether they were third 165 00:08:57,400 --> 00:09:00,440 Speaker 1: or four string guys, they're gonna rush the kicker. So 166 00:09:01,480 --> 00:09:04,880 Speaker 1: obviously Feeley has experienced there. I don't know if there's 167 00:09:04,920 --> 00:09:07,559 Speaker 1: any validity too. But when you start seeing around the league, 168 00:09:07,559 --> 00:09:10,840 Speaker 1: I mean, until they change the extra point. It was 169 00:09:11,120 --> 00:09:13,640 Speaker 1: automatic when it came to the thirty five forty yard 170 00:09:13,679 --> 00:09:16,800 Speaker 1: field goals, but right now it's not guaranteed. So I 171 00:09:16,840 --> 00:09:19,000 Speaker 1: don't know how you simulated. I guess it's about their 172 00:09:19,000 --> 00:09:23,480 Speaker 1: approach in Gonzalas to me, has a strong leg, and 173 00:09:24,080 --> 00:09:26,720 Speaker 1: he's the least of my worries. I just don't think 174 00:09:26,840 --> 00:09:30,000 Speaker 1: you know he well. From a standpoint, I just don't 175 00:09:30,000 --> 00:09:33,440 Speaker 1: want to seeing him making like shorter kicks this year. 176 00:09:33,640 --> 00:09:36,120 Speaker 1: But those those kicks that he missed, as you pointed out, 177 00:09:36,200 --> 00:09:39,120 Speaker 1: and it's valid point, they were long enough. It's just 178 00:09:39,160 --> 00:09:41,439 Speaker 1: they were wide right or right left. But he's got 179 00:09:41,440 --> 00:09:44,360 Speaker 1: the leg to kick it. It is a Wednesday addition 180 00:09:44,600 --> 00:09:47,760 Speaker 1: of Cardinals cover two presented by Hunday, probably partner of 181 00:09:47,800 --> 00:09:51,760 Speaker 1: the Arizona Cardinals, and Wednesday means the starts the official 182 00:09:51,880 --> 00:09:54,680 Speaker 1: starts of the next week, in this case Week two 183 00:09:54,720 --> 00:09:59,120 Speaker 1: focusing on Washington, and it's certainly clear that the players 184 00:09:59,440 --> 00:10:03,080 Speaker 1: want to put the focus on this upcoming opponent. A 185 00:10:03,080 --> 00:10:05,720 Speaker 1: couple of players, though, asked about last week's game, and 186 00:10:05,800 --> 00:10:10,040 Speaker 1: it was clear that well, Chase Edmonds, hey we're moving 187 00:10:10,080 --> 00:10:13,520 Speaker 1: on to Washington, Dave Andre Campbell, you can't live off 188 00:10:13,640 --> 00:10:16,760 Speaker 1: past success. Kyler Murray didn't even want to touch it. 189 00:10:16,920 --> 00:10:20,440 Speaker 1: So this team, as we talked about yesterday twenty four 190 00:10:20,480 --> 00:10:23,360 Speaker 1: hour role, we extended it here on Cardinals Cover two 191 00:10:23,559 --> 00:10:26,000 Speaker 1: to a forty eight hour role because of just how 192 00:10:26,040 --> 00:10:28,839 Speaker 1: important and how big that win was. But it's now 193 00:10:29,040 --> 00:10:31,640 Speaker 1: time to turn the page. There's no doubt about it. 194 00:10:31,720 --> 00:10:35,760 Speaker 1: And you know, from a player's perspective, you know they're 195 00:10:35,800 --> 00:10:38,040 Speaker 1: getting a game plan. I mean, they do have a 196 00:10:39,160 --> 00:10:43,760 Speaker 1: iPads and Microsoft tablets, so they're getting to gain plan 197 00:10:43,920 --> 00:10:45,600 Speaker 1: likely Tuesday night. Now do you do a lot of 198 00:10:45,600 --> 00:10:48,880 Speaker 1: install on Wednesday and Thursday. So it's important to move 199 00:10:48,920 --> 00:10:51,320 Speaker 1: on and you can't live in the past. But I 200 00:10:51,400 --> 00:10:53,600 Speaker 1: like what guys are saying you can't get too high 201 00:10:53,640 --> 00:10:56,320 Speaker 1: and too low because you wide, you ride the wave, 202 00:10:56,360 --> 00:10:58,679 Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden there's disappointment. We know 203 00:10:58,880 --> 00:11:01,760 Speaker 1: on paper, these are very winnable games in the next 204 00:11:01,800 --> 00:11:05,280 Speaker 1: couple of weeks, but we also know what's the NFL. Yeah, 205 00:11:05,320 --> 00:11:07,360 Speaker 1: And I like what Kyle the Murray had to say 206 00:11:07,360 --> 00:11:10,040 Speaker 1: in response to you know, would there be a quote 207 00:11:10,080 --> 00:11:13,160 Speaker 1: unquote hangover effect because it was such a big win 208 00:11:13,240 --> 00:11:17,200 Speaker 1: on Sunday quote there's no hangover. There will never be 209 00:11:17,320 --> 00:11:20,600 Speaker 1: a hangover, at least for me. And then he added 210 00:11:20,880 --> 00:11:24,120 Speaker 1: the easy thing is to get complacent, but that's not 211 00:11:24,160 --> 00:11:26,679 Speaker 1: what this team is about. So they are saying the 212 00:11:26,760 --> 00:11:29,400 Speaker 1: riot things and certainly working towards now going too and 213 00:11:29,480 --> 00:11:32,240 Speaker 1: oh for the first time since twenty fifteen. Yeah, and 214 00:11:32,360 --> 00:11:34,520 Speaker 1: they are getting a lot of pub on the outside. 215 00:11:34,520 --> 00:11:38,680 Speaker 1: It's amazing. I think what they call it over reaction Monday, 216 00:11:38,679 --> 00:11:41,120 Speaker 1: where if you win, you know, all of a sudden, 217 00:11:41,120 --> 00:11:43,000 Speaker 1: the Cardinals are going to go nineteen and oh this year, 218 00:11:43,000 --> 00:11:45,440 Speaker 1: and if you lose, you're looking at a top five 219 00:11:45,480 --> 00:11:47,800 Speaker 1: pick in the draft. I mean, I think he had 220 00:11:47,800 --> 00:11:50,199 Speaker 1: to wait for twenty five percent of the season, and 221 00:11:50,320 --> 00:11:53,800 Speaker 1: you know, we'll see where they stack up at the 222 00:11:52,480 --> 00:11:57,520 Speaker 1: end of September. But on paper, it's a very favorable schedule. 223 00:11:57,920 --> 00:12:00,080 Speaker 1: But you still got to go play the game, and 224 00:12:00,120 --> 00:12:02,840 Speaker 1: you still got to go out there and block in tackling. 225 00:12:02,880 --> 00:12:05,560 Speaker 1: It's the basics of football. But I think this team 226 00:12:05,600 --> 00:12:08,120 Speaker 1: is confident when they stepped on the field. Well part 227 00:12:08,120 --> 00:12:12,200 Speaker 1: of that praise. The power rankings are out and everyone's 228 00:12:12,400 --> 00:12:15,559 Speaker 1: got them, and some people like them, some people don't. 229 00:12:15,640 --> 00:12:17,280 Speaker 1: It's just a matter of kind of what you do, 230 00:12:17,360 --> 00:12:19,840 Speaker 1: and it does kind of give maybe a broad sense 231 00:12:19,840 --> 00:12:23,280 Speaker 1: of where things stands across the league. But one of 232 00:12:23,280 --> 00:12:28,160 Speaker 1: the biggest jumps USA today had the Cardinals before the 233 00:12:28,200 --> 00:12:33,240 Speaker 1: season at number twenty one, now at number eight. You 234 00:12:33,360 --> 00:12:36,640 Speaker 1: talk about it jump, that was a huge leap after 235 00:12:36,720 --> 00:12:40,960 Speaker 1: beating the defending NFC champions. That is a huge jump, 236 00:12:40,960 --> 00:12:43,120 Speaker 1: and I believe that would be Nate Davis. Yeah, that's 237 00:12:43,160 --> 00:12:47,400 Speaker 1: interesting because you know it's only one game, but you know, 238 00:12:48,360 --> 00:12:50,600 Speaker 1: fifteen other teams won their first game. Now, there were 239 00:12:50,600 --> 00:12:53,800 Speaker 1: a few upsets, so maybe they below the Cardinals, but hey, 240 00:12:53,920 --> 00:12:57,000 Speaker 1: you know, usually there's the last couple of years. Craig. 241 00:12:57,559 --> 00:12:59,120 Speaker 1: First thing I would do is go to the bottom 242 00:12:59,160 --> 00:13:02,160 Speaker 1: of the list where they rank thirty, second, thirty first, 243 00:13:02,240 --> 00:13:05,120 Speaker 1: twenty ninth, and then you're at the end of the day, 244 00:13:05,160 --> 00:13:07,960 Speaker 1: it's it's based on you know, what you did in 245 00:13:08,000 --> 00:13:10,160 Speaker 1: the previous week, what they think you're going to do, 246 00:13:10,240 --> 00:13:12,480 Speaker 1: because you can't see a team go from like twenty 247 00:13:12,480 --> 00:13:16,000 Speaker 1: fifth as like eight, So it's it's really they're projecting 248 00:13:16,080 --> 00:13:18,000 Speaker 1: what you did last week and what you're going to 249 00:13:18,040 --> 00:13:20,439 Speaker 1: do in the future. But hey, as we always say 250 00:13:20,440 --> 00:13:24,600 Speaker 1: at PC Alternative, yeah, Mount only USA today, CBS Bleacher 251 00:13:24,600 --> 00:13:29,080 Speaker 1: Report have the Cardinals at number eight, ESPN number fifteen, 252 00:13:29,160 --> 00:13:32,160 Speaker 1: and I think that's that's reasonable. I'm okay with that. 253 00:13:32,240 --> 00:13:34,600 Speaker 1: And again, this is as you said, it's it's one game, 254 00:13:34,720 --> 00:13:38,640 Speaker 1: it's one week. Let's talk about this next month. Let's 255 00:13:38,640 --> 00:13:41,000 Speaker 1: talk about this in November. Let's hope the Cardinals aren't 256 00:13:41,040 --> 00:13:45,400 Speaker 1: position in December to start playing some meaningful football. All right. So, 257 00:13:46,120 --> 00:13:50,120 Speaker 1: over the years, Mike Sando, he's worked for ESPN, he's 258 00:13:50,120 --> 00:13:52,760 Speaker 1: been on a lot of local radio over the period 259 00:13:52,720 --> 00:13:54,800 Speaker 1: of time, and now he's working for the athletic and 260 00:13:55,000 --> 00:13:57,200 Speaker 1: he's I don't know if he was the first to 261 00:13:57,200 --> 00:14:00,280 Speaker 1: come up, but he comes up with tears for quarters. 262 00:14:00,679 --> 00:14:04,000 Speaker 1: Tier one would be your upper echelon quarterbacks. Tier two 263 00:14:04,160 --> 00:14:07,560 Speaker 1: is maybe guys have flashed and you know they're still 264 00:14:07,559 --> 00:14:09,920 Speaker 1: not there yet. And then there's Tier three, Tier four, 265 00:14:10,040 --> 00:14:12,840 Speaker 1: tier five. So if you start looking at the tiers 266 00:14:13,600 --> 00:14:16,640 Speaker 1: of Tier one when it comes to teams, and I 267 00:14:16,679 --> 00:14:21,720 Speaker 1: think it's safe to say you look at the Chiefs, Ravens, Seahawks, Saints, 268 00:14:21,720 --> 00:14:25,080 Speaker 1: and Packers, and I think those teams were elite in 269 00:14:25,160 --> 00:14:28,840 Speaker 1: Week one. Would you agree with that? I would absolutely 270 00:14:28,920 --> 00:14:30,560 Speaker 1: would have been. As far as if you were talking 271 00:14:30,600 --> 00:14:33,600 Speaker 1: about Super Bowl contenders, Boots one of those teams you 272 00:14:33,600 --> 00:14:37,400 Speaker 1: can certainly see come January. Now we know that Bruce 273 00:14:37,440 --> 00:14:40,840 Speaker 1: arians is calling out the quarterback and you know, maybe 274 00:14:40,880 --> 00:14:42,960 Speaker 1: it's hyperbole or he's trying to light a fire. So 275 00:14:43,120 --> 00:14:45,920 Speaker 1: tier two, I'm looking at the list. Somebody put the 276 00:14:45,960 --> 00:14:49,000 Speaker 1: Bucks in there, I guess talent wise, but they got 277 00:14:49,000 --> 00:14:51,600 Speaker 1: a lot of new faces, so it may take some time. 278 00:14:52,080 --> 00:14:56,640 Speaker 1: The Cowboys obviously disappointing losses, Steelers look like they were varsity, 279 00:14:56,720 --> 00:14:59,360 Speaker 1: and the Giants look like JV. And the Bills they 280 00:14:59,400 --> 00:15:02,200 Speaker 1: just win. So that's tier two. So tier three, I 281 00:15:02,280 --> 00:15:05,160 Speaker 1: think is where the Cardinals would be when it comes 282 00:15:05,160 --> 00:15:07,440 Speaker 1: to teams around them. And we'll start off with the 283 00:15:07,520 --> 00:15:12,120 Speaker 1: Vikings disappointing loss there. The Niners, obviously people will project 284 00:15:12,160 --> 00:15:14,520 Speaker 1: them that would be a double digit win team, the Titans, 285 00:15:14,560 --> 00:15:22,560 Speaker 1: goodwin against the Broncos, the Patriots, Cardinals, the Broncos, Eagles, Falcons, Texans, Raiders, 286 00:15:22,560 --> 00:15:25,720 Speaker 1: and Rams. Would you seems like thereros are more teams 287 00:15:25,720 --> 00:15:29,040 Speaker 1: that the Cardinals are competing with moving forward? Would you agree? 288 00:15:29,400 --> 00:15:32,280 Speaker 1: I would? And you can certainly see the Cardinals moving up, 289 00:15:32,680 --> 00:15:37,080 Speaker 1: especially if they're able to keep stacking wins and being consistent, 290 00:15:37,200 --> 00:15:41,000 Speaker 1: not riding that roller coaster, but proving that last week 291 00:15:41,280 --> 00:15:43,760 Speaker 1: wasn't a fluke. And you can do that by winning 292 00:15:43,800 --> 00:15:47,520 Speaker 1: at home against Washington. Yeah. And my prediction is if 293 00:15:47,560 --> 00:15:49,800 Speaker 1: they can get off to a good start and we 294 00:15:49,880 --> 00:15:52,520 Speaker 1: know it's daunting at the end, I think Kyler Murray 295 00:15:52,560 --> 00:15:54,480 Speaker 1: will go to a Tier two quarterback and I think 296 00:15:54,480 --> 00:15:57,680 Speaker 1: the Cardinals could be tiered two. Well. So, now these 297 00:15:57,680 --> 00:16:03,960 Speaker 1: other teams kind of finding their identity Bears, Washington Football Team, Jags, Lions, Giants, Chargers, 298 00:16:03,960 --> 00:16:08,800 Speaker 1: and Dolphins. And then at the bottom you got Cincinnati, Cleveland, Indianapolis, 299 00:16:08,880 --> 00:16:12,120 Speaker 1: Carolina and the Jets. And those teams are obviously going 300 00:16:12,160 --> 00:16:16,400 Speaker 1: through new coaches, obviously new system schemes, even though the 301 00:16:16,480 --> 00:16:18,840 Speaker 1: Jets been under Adam Gates for a few years. So 302 00:16:18,920 --> 00:16:22,000 Speaker 1: we'll take a look back at the month of September. 303 00:16:22,040 --> 00:16:23,920 Speaker 1: But I do think the Cardinals can go from Tier 304 00:16:24,000 --> 00:16:27,800 Speaker 1: three to Tier two. Well let's get into that Washington 305 00:16:27,880 --> 00:16:30,960 Speaker 1: football team. But first a reminder, Bird Gang update to 306 00:16:31,000 --> 00:16:33,640 Speaker 1: the latest version of the Cardinals mobile app today. The 307 00:16:33,760 --> 00:16:37,800 Speaker 1: update features an all new redesign homescreen experience visit asy 308 00:16:37,800 --> 00:16:41,960 Speaker 1: Cardinals dot com slash app four more like the Cardinals 309 00:16:42,200 --> 00:16:47,120 Speaker 1: Washington one and oh and winning in comeback fashion last 310 00:16:47,120 --> 00:16:50,960 Speaker 1: week against the Eagles. They spotted in Philadelphia seventeen points 311 00:16:50,960 --> 00:16:54,520 Speaker 1: and then scored the game's final twenty seven. But you 312 00:16:54,640 --> 00:16:58,440 Speaker 1: look at the offensive numbers, MJ not impressive at all. 313 00:16:58,840 --> 00:17:02,760 Speaker 1: In fact, they're three times down drives, forty five, twenty 314 00:17:03,200 --> 00:17:06,760 Speaker 1: and forty eight yards all right, so not impressive. Well, 315 00:17:06,760 --> 00:17:12,800 Speaker 1: how do they win? Defense? Defense? Defense, and specifically that 316 00:17:13,000 --> 00:17:17,000 Speaker 1: defensive front. Those four guys or that rotation if you will, 317 00:17:17,040 --> 00:17:20,439 Speaker 1: it's a four man front, might be next to the 318 00:17:20,600 --> 00:17:23,560 Speaker 1: forty nine ers, one of the best, if not the best, 319 00:17:23,600 --> 00:17:26,560 Speaker 1: in the entire NFL. Yeah, and according to Justin Pugh 320 00:17:26,720 --> 00:17:28,480 Speaker 1: that he thought they were a little bit deeper at 321 00:17:28,480 --> 00:17:32,320 Speaker 1: an interior versus the Niners, obviously losing to Forrest Buck there, 322 00:17:32,400 --> 00:17:34,679 Speaker 1: but we know the Niners have a couple of legit 323 00:17:34,720 --> 00:17:37,280 Speaker 1: pass rushers. So when you look at it, you talk 324 00:17:37,320 --> 00:17:39,720 Speaker 1: about it investing and this is what happens when you 325 00:17:39,720 --> 00:17:42,960 Speaker 1: get high picks in the draft. And obviously the Cardinals 326 00:17:43,000 --> 00:17:45,560 Speaker 1: have benefited from it from Kyler Murray and you know, 327 00:17:45,640 --> 00:17:49,080 Speaker 1: even a guy like Buddha Baker when they moved up. 328 00:17:49,119 --> 00:17:53,080 Speaker 1: So back can go twenty eleven. Ryan Kerrigan, he's a 329 00:17:53,160 --> 00:17:56,120 Speaker 1: very underrated player. He plays in a big market. He's 330 00:17:56,160 --> 00:17:58,040 Speaker 1: a He's definitely a guy you got to put a 331 00:17:58,080 --> 00:18:00,280 Speaker 1: hat on. He was a first round pick. And then 332 00:18:00,320 --> 00:18:02,760 Speaker 1: you look at Jonathan Allen from Allenabama, he was a 333 00:18:02,840 --> 00:18:06,960 Speaker 1: first round pick. Darren Payne, he was a first round pick. 334 00:18:07,359 --> 00:18:11,199 Speaker 1: Then you look at Montez Sweat, the linebacker, he was 335 00:18:11,240 --> 00:18:13,720 Speaker 1: a first round pick. He was actually the second pick 336 00:18:14,000 --> 00:18:16,679 Speaker 1: in twenty nineteen with Dwayne Haskins. And then we go 337 00:18:16,720 --> 00:18:20,920 Speaker 1: to Chase Young this year. So they really have invested 338 00:18:21,000 --> 00:18:22,600 Speaker 1: in that. And I think because you play in the 339 00:18:22,680 --> 00:18:24,840 Speaker 1: NFC East and you got to play some cold weather games, 340 00:18:24,920 --> 00:18:28,040 Speaker 1: they and let's be honest. I mean, you hire round 341 00:18:28,160 --> 00:18:30,560 Speaker 1: Rivera because you're trying to change the culture there from 342 00:18:30,720 --> 00:18:33,399 Speaker 1: from top to bottom. And these guys that bought in. 343 00:18:33,560 --> 00:18:36,200 Speaker 1: And a story you told the other day is where 344 00:18:36,680 --> 00:18:39,359 Speaker 1: Rivera was getting iv at halftime and Haskins is the 345 00:18:39,400 --> 00:18:43,000 Speaker 1: one that called the meeting and it was just about execution. 346 00:18:43,040 --> 00:18:45,320 Speaker 1: And you know, but I look at those numbers and 347 00:18:45,359 --> 00:18:47,800 Speaker 1: I'm like, how did they win that football game? But 348 00:18:48,040 --> 00:18:50,920 Speaker 1: you look at once he had a couple turnovers when 349 00:18:50,960 --> 00:18:53,560 Speaker 1: you get short fields. And one thing I like about 350 00:18:53,600 --> 00:18:57,280 Speaker 1: Haskins he's he's that pocket passer. Hell, he'll drop that 351 00:18:57,359 --> 00:18:59,960 Speaker 1: foot three to five and seven stops when he drops 352 00:19:00,080 --> 00:19:01,920 Speaker 1: at back foot Craig, you watch him get rid of 353 00:19:01,920 --> 00:19:04,159 Speaker 1: the ball, and I always think it's easier for a 354 00:19:04,240 --> 00:19:06,680 Speaker 1: quarterback to throw it to a tight end unless it's 355 00:19:06,720 --> 00:19:10,440 Speaker 1: deflected or tip. And obviously Logan Thomas's are a one 356 00:19:10,560 --> 00:19:14,680 Speaker 1: tight end because of his athleticism. So you know, they're 357 00:19:14,720 --> 00:19:16,840 Speaker 1: a really young team. You could see how they're building 358 00:19:16,960 --> 00:19:19,240 Speaker 1: for the future. But again, I think this is a 359 00:19:19,400 --> 00:19:22,120 Speaker 1: very winnable game for the Cardinals at home. Yeah, Haskins 360 00:19:22,200 --> 00:19:25,080 Speaker 1: got better as the game went on, ten of fifteen 361 00:19:25,160 --> 00:19:27,200 Speaker 1: for one hundred and one yards in the second half. 362 00:19:27,280 --> 00:19:31,399 Speaker 1: You bring up Logan Thomas, the former Cardinals quarterback, didn't 363 00:19:31,440 --> 00:19:33,920 Speaker 1: kind of pan out. He made the position switch and 364 00:19:34,000 --> 00:19:37,840 Speaker 1: now enjoin some success in Washington. And then Terry McLaurin 365 00:19:38,119 --> 00:19:41,680 Speaker 1: college teammates with Haskins at Ohio State. He's their number 366 00:19:41,720 --> 00:19:45,040 Speaker 1: one wide receiver. None of those really stood out though. 367 00:19:45,080 --> 00:19:48,000 Speaker 1: As far as the stats, again, I'm gonna go back 368 00:19:48,040 --> 00:19:53,359 Speaker 1: to the defense. Eight sacks, three forced turnovers, and that 369 00:19:53,560 --> 00:19:56,399 Speaker 1: is what really set this Washington team up as far 370 00:19:56,440 --> 00:19:59,520 Speaker 1: as being able to come back. And that five former 371 00:19:59,560 --> 00:20:02,560 Speaker 1: first draft picks that you just named, they accounted for 372 00:20:02,760 --> 00:20:06,320 Speaker 1: five and a half of the eight secs that this 373 00:20:06,480 --> 00:20:09,359 Speaker 1: team was able to get against the Eagles. You know, 374 00:20:09,560 --> 00:20:12,760 Speaker 1: if you go back to the you know, speculation and draft, 375 00:20:13,720 --> 00:20:15,920 Speaker 1: you know projections, a lot of people thought maybe the 376 00:20:16,560 --> 00:20:20,800 Speaker 1: Redskins would have pulled up Cardinals and went with Joe Burrow. 377 00:20:21,400 --> 00:20:24,359 Speaker 1: There was no doubt in my mind when they went 378 00:20:24,359 --> 00:20:27,480 Speaker 1: out and made the deal for Kyle Allen, I thought, 379 00:20:27,480 --> 00:20:29,800 Speaker 1: all right, they're gonna let Haskins win this job, you know, 380 00:20:29,960 --> 00:20:32,520 Speaker 1: and let's build around him. He just invested a high 381 00:20:32,560 --> 00:20:35,800 Speaker 1: pick for him. So, but Chase Young to me, was 382 00:20:35,840 --> 00:20:38,600 Speaker 1: the best player in the draft. Nothing against Joe Burrow. 383 00:20:39,240 --> 00:20:40,919 Speaker 1: I wished him a lot of success there. And then 384 00:20:41,119 --> 00:20:43,520 Speaker 1: you know Jeffrey Acuda who miss Week one, and then 385 00:20:43,760 --> 00:20:47,919 Speaker 1: obviously Isaiah Simmons saw I don't think the Redskins even flirted. Now, 386 00:20:47,960 --> 00:20:49,720 Speaker 1: if they had the first pick in the draft, I 387 00:20:49,800 --> 00:20:52,919 Speaker 1: still think they would have taken Chase Young. Well. Murray 388 00:20:53,160 --> 00:20:58,440 Speaker 1: called Chase Young a specimen, a freak of nature, and 389 00:20:58,800 --> 00:21:01,440 Speaker 1: he certainly looked part with a sack and a half 390 00:21:01,600 --> 00:21:05,040 Speaker 1: and a forced fumble and someone that even can drop 391 00:21:05,119 --> 00:21:07,479 Speaker 1: a little bit. There was some film of him actually 392 00:21:07,640 --> 00:21:10,520 Speaker 1: chasing a running back who came out of the backfield. 393 00:21:10,560 --> 00:21:13,240 Speaker 1: So he certainly has all the skill set and made 394 00:21:13,320 --> 00:21:16,440 Speaker 1: a great first impression, not only for Washington but for 395 00:21:16,480 --> 00:21:19,320 Speaker 1: the rest of the league. I told you going into 396 00:21:19,359 --> 00:21:21,800 Speaker 1: the draft and after the draft, because you know kind 397 00:21:21,840 --> 00:21:24,280 Speaker 1: of knew he's going there just based on connecting dots. 398 00:21:25,000 --> 00:21:27,239 Speaker 1: He's a piece of clay. They got to mold him now. 399 00:21:27,600 --> 00:21:30,760 Speaker 1: I mean, he's got the he's got the passes, the 400 00:21:30,800 --> 00:21:34,280 Speaker 1: eye test, he's got the physical attributes. You know, he's 401 00:21:34,320 --> 00:21:36,640 Speaker 1: a guy that can make plays on the run. It's 402 00:21:36,680 --> 00:21:38,440 Speaker 1: not just putting my ears back and go off to 403 00:21:38,480 --> 00:21:41,000 Speaker 1: the quarterback. So he's a really good player and it 404 00:21:41,040 --> 00:21:43,239 Speaker 1: wouldn't be surprised if he's the rookie of the year 405 00:21:43,400 --> 00:21:46,800 Speaker 1: just based on playing every down, playing in a big market, 406 00:21:47,680 --> 00:21:50,240 Speaker 1: and then along those lines, I mean, we'll see if 407 00:21:50,280 --> 00:21:52,840 Speaker 1: he gets double digit sacks. You know, Simeon Rice was 408 00:21:52,920 --> 00:21:56,600 Speaker 1: really effective his rookie year with the Cardinals, so high expectations, 409 00:21:56,680 --> 00:21:58,600 Speaker 1: but I think he'll climb the mountain when it's all 410 00:21:58,640 --> 00:22:02,040 Speaker 1: set and done. All He's had a great leader within 411 00:22:02,280 --> 00:22:05,639 Speaker 1: that defensive line room, and Ryan Carrigan, he was a 412 00:22:05,720 --> 00:22:08,359 Speaker 1: part of that party on Sunday, if you will, with 413 00:22:08,480 --> 00:22:13,199 Speaker 1: two sacks, became Washington's all time sacks leader and then 414 00:22:13,359 --> 00:22:17,000 Speaker 1: earlier today named NFC Defensive Player of the Week. And 415 00:22:17,359 --> 00:22:20,479 Speaker 1: the Cardinals are very well aware of what Washington can 416 00:22:20,560 --> 00:22:22,880 Speaker 1: do as far as getting after the quarterback. In fact, 417 00:22:22,920 --> 00:22:26,280 Speaker 1: head coach Cliff Kingsbury said quote it was pretty nerve 418 00:22:26,359 --> 00:22:31,960 Speaker 1: wracking watching their film end quote, and Justin Pugh called 419 00:22:32,000 --> 00:22:35,960 Speaker 1: them relentless. Now, Kyle the Murray wanted to focus more 420 00:22:36,119 --> 00:22:39,040 Speaker 1: on the Cardinals end of things, saying, hey, if we execute, 421 00:22:39,280 --> 00:22:41,840 Speaker 1: we'll be able to get a w on Sunday, and 422 00:22:41,880 --> 00:22:45,359 Speaker 1: I understand that point. Yet it's those five guys up 423 00:22:45,400 --> 00:22:47,960 Speaker 1: front that are in charge of making Sir Kyle the 424 00:22:48,080 --> 00:22:51,560 Speaker 1: Murray does not get off his spot unless it's Murray's 425 00:22:51,680 --> 00:22:54,439 Speaker 1: choice to run, like we saw against the forty nine ers. 426 00:22:54,920 --> 00:22:58,960 Speaker 1: You know, I found certain beat writers for all thirty 427 00:22:59,000 --> 00:23:02,520 Speaker 1: two teams, and then obviously I focus more whoever the 428 00:23:02,600 --> 00:23:05,400 Speaker 1: Cardinals are upcoming opponent. Maybe I'll tap into a couple more. 429 00:23:06,040 --> 00:23:09,760 Speaker 1: But the feeling out of Washington, based on Kingsbury conference 430 00:23:09,840 --> 00:23:12,399 Speaker 1: call with the media this morning and then Ron Rivera 431 00:23:12,560 --> 00:23:17,359 Speaker 1: addressing the media, is they both have high anxiety. Kingsbury 432 00:23:17,440 --> 00:23:20,919 Speaker 1: when it comes to their pass rush and Rivera has 433 00:23:20,960 --> 00:23:24,480 Speaker 1: anxiety how he's going to contain Kyler Murray. And that's 434 00:23:24,520 --> 00:23:27,760 Speaker 1: the beauty of the NFL chess match. You know, obviously, 435 00:23:27,960 --> 00:23:30,080 Speaker 1: if they get Washington gets off to an old start, 436 00:23:30,119 --> 00:23:32,560 Speaker 1: it's going to be fascinating. I mean, you got to 437 00:23:32,600 --> 00:23:35,320 Speaker 1: give them credit not you know, I don't think he's 438 00:23:35,320 --> 00:23:38,639 Speaker 1: a retreat everywhere he's been. Rivera's gotta turned around and 439 00:23:38,840 --> 00:23:40,840 Speaker 1: it's going to take some time with a young roster. 440 00:23:40,960 --> 00:23:43,320 Speaker 1: But you could see anxiety for the coaching staff because 441 00:23:43,640 --> 00:23:47,200 Speaker 1: it's really a chess match, you know it's Kingsbury versus 442 00:23:47,359 --> 00:23:50,200 Speaker 1: Rivera or who their DC is against that front four, 443 00:23:50,720 --> 00:23:53,600 Speaker 1: and then on the other side it's Kyler against you know, 444 00:23:54,520 --> 00:23:58,160 Speaker 1: obviously see Kyler against their front flour, but didn't see 445 00:23:58,200 --> 00:24:01,480 Speaker 1: my Kyler was too concerned about him running. And you know, 446 00:24:02,080 --> 00:24:06,040 Speaker 1: I just feel like they're a young bunch and sometimes 447 00:24:06,119 --> 00:24:07,640 Speaker 1: you can try to feel like you need to make 448 00:24:07,680 --> 00:24:10,639 Speaker 1: a play and you kind of freelance a little bit. Now, 449 00:24:10,680 --> 00:24:15,200 Speaker 1: I'm sure there's more structure this cliche, but I think 450 00:24:15,320 --> 00:24:17,879 Speaker 1: Murray feels like, you know, there's pockets they can hit 451 00:24:18,080 --> 00:24:20,520 Speaker 1: because if they want to drop, you know, six or 452 00:24:20,560 --> 00:24:22,480 Speaker 1: seven in the box, that's going to open things up 453 00:24:22,520 --> 00:24:25,359 Speaker 1: for the outside. I don't think there's any question about that. 454 00:24:25,480 --> 00:24:27,359 Speaker 1: And you talk about chess match, this might be the 455 00:24:27,560 --> 00:24:32,040 Speaker 1: ultimate chess match. With Cliff Kingsbury offensive mind, Ron Rivera 456 00:24:32,359 --> 00:24:35,560 Speaker 1: defensive mind. And oh, by the way, his defensive coordinator 457 00:24:35,680 --> 00:24:38,520 Speaker 1: is Jack del Rio, who on occasion during the course 458 00:24:38,560 --> 00:24:40,800 Speaker 1: of the week is acting as the head coach because 459 00:24:40,880 --> 00:24:44,040 Speaker 1: Rivera is battling cancer. Can't say enough about what he 460 00:24:44,240 --> 00:24:47,480 Speaker 1: has had to deal with, not from an XS and 461 00:24:47,560 --> 00:24:50,520 Speaker 1: O standpoint, but off the field with the team and 462 00:24:50,600 --> 00:24:53,040 Speaker 1: then off the field in his personal life. So it 463 00:24:53,240 --> 00:24:55,280 Speaker 1: is a team that you can certainly because of the 464 00:24:55,359 --> 00:24:58,200 Speaker 1: head coach, that you can get behind, just not this 465 00:24:58,440 --> 00:25:02,560 Speaker 1: week exactly. We wish him well and you know, obviously, 466 00:25:02,760 --> 00:25:05,560 Speaker 1: you know the fact that he's still working is remarkable 467 00:25:05,680 --> 00:25:08,440 Speaker 1: and players are aware of it. In del Rio, I 468 00:25:08,440 --> 00:25:12,280 Speaker 1: always thought he was a better coordinator than head coach. 469 00:25:12,480 --> 00:25:15,800 Speaker 1: You know. Obviously he had some time in Jacksonville and 470 00:25:16,440 --> 00:25:18,560 Speaker 1: in Oakland, but I think that was a good hire. 471 00:25:18,600 --> 00:25:20,520 Speaker 1: He spent some time in television and a lot of 472 00:25:20,600 --> 00:25:23,320 Speaker 1: times you want to get back there. 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Something 479 00:25:45,880 --> 00:25:48,680 Speaker 1: we touched on a little bit immediately after the ballgame 480 00:25:48,720 --> 00:25:51,359 Speaker 1: on Cardinal Talk and a little bit on Monday, and 481 00:25:51,560 --> 00:25:55,200 Speaker 1: that is Chase Edmonds and how do you divvy up touches. 482 00:25:55,680 --> 00:25:58,560 Speaker 1: We know that there's a talented wide receiver room, and 483 00:25:58,600 --> 00:26:01,960 Speaker 1: when you have a DeAndre Hopkins, maybe that overshadows everyone else. 484 00:26:02,280 --> 00:26:05,760 Speaker 1: Hard to get everyone involved, as much as coaches would 485 00:26:05,800 --> 00:26:08,080 Speaker 1: love to do it each and every week, but in 486 00:26:08,200 --> 00:26:11,280 Speaker 1: that running backs room, we might have gotten a glimpse 487 00:26:11,440 --> 00:26:14,320 Speaker 1: a little bit on Sunday about more of a balanced 488 00:26:14,880 --> 00:26:17,560 Speaker 1: give and take a one two punch, if you will, 489 00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:21,840 Speaker 1: something that I'll be honest, I was not expecting. I 490 00:26:22,040 --> 00:26:24,960 Speaker 1: was kind of expecting more Kenyan Drake and just given 491 00:26:25,040 --> 00:26:27,520 Speaker 1: him the ball until he taps out because of that 492 00:26:27,680 --> 00:26:30,119 Speaker 1: one year contract and say hey, we're just going to 493 00:26:30,240 --> 00:26:32,040 Speaker 1: ride you to the ground and show us what you 494 00:26:32,080 --> 00:26:36,000 Speaker 1: can do. Yeah. I think Edmonds made it clear today 495 00:26:36,119 --> 00:26:39,720 Speaker 1: that he wouldn't get into the details, but instead he 496 00:26:39,800 --> 00:26:42,800 Speaker 1: started in training camp where they kind of defined each role. 497 00:26:42,880 --> 00:26:45,359 Speaker 1: I still think Drake's going to be the guy. Doesn't 498 00:26:45,400 --> 00:26:47,280 Speaker 1: mean that Chase Edmonds won't be on the field for 499 00:26:47,320 --> 00:26:49,240 Speaker 1: the first play of the game. It's based on you know, 500 00:26:49,280 --> 00:26:54,000 Speaker 1: the scripted plays. But again, according to people I talked to, 501 00:26:54,200 --> 00:26:56,280 Speaker 1: and maybe I've used this sort of a couple of 502 00:26:56,320 --> 00:26:58,480 Speaker 1: different times, but they thought he was the most underrated 503 00:26:58,520 --> 00:27:01,000 Speaker 1: player in camp and he really stood out, and I 504 00:27:01,080 --> 00:27:04,600 Speaker 1: think they're very confident in him. And me was telling 505 00:27:04,640 --> 00:27:07,200 Speaker 1: when Steve Kim told Doug and Wolf that, you know, 506 00:27:07,320 --> 00:27:09,440 Speaker 1: looking ahead and not saying that they don't want to 507 00:27:09,480 --> 00:27:11,760 Speaker 1: retain Kenyan Drake, but they think he could be a 508 00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:15,359 Speaker 1: frontline starter. Now can he take the pounding that you know? 509 00:27:15,440 --> 00:27:18,600 Speaker 1: That's something and obviously, but I think maybe every third 510 00:27:18,800 --> 00:27:21,520 Speaker 1: or second or third possession we could see Chase in 511 00:27:21,600 --> 00:27:23,959 Speaker 1: the game. I don't think it's automatic that you're going 512 00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:27,280 Speaker 1: to see Kenyan Drake for five consecutive possessions and it's 513 00:27:27,280 --> 00:27:29,480 Speaker 1: probably gonna do him good when we get to the 514 00:27:29,560 --> 00:27:32,320 Speaker 1: latter part of the season. So they have a plan 515 00:27:32,440 --> 00:27:34,400 Speaker 1: for him. And that's the beauty when I talk about 516 00:27:34,440 --> 00:27:38,160 Speaker 1: Isabella getting a bigger role, Chris Banjol getting a bigger role, 517 00:27:38,720 --> 00:27:40,920 Speaker 1: these guys are just waiting for their opportunity, and so 518 00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:43,800 Speaker 1: I would push Chase Edmonds in that same category. The 519 00:27:43,920 --> 00:27:47,440 Speaker 1: only thing Edmonds would say when asked about roles between 520 00:27:47,560 --> 00:27:50,440 Speaker 1: him and Kenyan Drake quote, we got to keep both 521 00:27:50,640 --> 00:27:54,480 Speaker 1: of us fresh end quote. And that's a good thing 522 00:27:54,600 --> 00:27:58,480 Speaker 1: to hear, another thing to actually execute, because if you 523 00:27:58,600 --> 00:28:03,000 Speaker 1: look at Monday and the snap count Kenyan Drake fifty 524 00:28:03,080 --> 00:28:08,320 Speaker 1: eight snaps seventy one of the offense and Edmonds twenty 525 00:28:08,440 --> 00:28:12,399 Speaker 1: eight offensive snaps, so thirty fewer. But it's what Edmonds 526 00:28:12,520 --> 00:28:15,639 Speaker 1: did when he was given the football in his hands, 527 00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:19,280 Speaker 1: eighty seven all purpose yards. And that's why I think 528 00:28:19,359 --> 00:28:23,080 Speaker 1: there's a growing sentiment about wanting to see Edmonds on 529 00:28:23,160 --> 00:28:25,119 Speaker 1: the field a little bit more. I think that I 530 00:28:25,200 --> 00:28:28,560 Speaker 1: think Drake's numbers come down and Edmonds comes up. I 531 00:28:28,680 --> 00:28:32,800 Speaker 1: still think Drake is the featured back, but the Cardinals 532 00:28:32,840 --> 00:28:35,040 Speaker 1: don't have a third down back, so there you've got 533 00:28:35,119 --> 00:28:37,320 Speaker 1: to find ways, and he's we know he's improved in 534 00:28:37,359 --> 00:28:39,800 Speaker 1: past protection. I think there are times you can't see 535 00:28:39,880 --> 00:28:43,080 Speaker 1: him behind the line. He's shifting his route running. He 536 00:28:43,120 --> 00:28:46,520 Speaker 1: can line up hoping the slot, he can break tackles. 537 00:28:46,560 --> 00:28:49,480 Speaker 1: So I still think Drake's gonna be the guy. Now 538 00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:51,920 Speaker 1: we'll see in the second half. Sometimes you ride a 539 00:28:51,960 --> 00:28:55,000 Speaker 1: hot hand, but I think Edmund's numbers come up and 540 00:28:55,160 --> 00:28:59,000 Speaker 1: Drake's snap counts come down. Edmunds had six rushes for 541 00:28:59,120 --> 00:29:03,040 Speaker 1: twenty six years, three receptions for nineteen yards. He was 542 00:29:03,160 --> 00:29:07,320 Speaker 1: targeted five times, targeted more in the passing game than 543 00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:10,440 Speaker 1: Drake was, so that might be something to pay attention to. 544 00:29:10,600 --> 00:29:13,680 Speaker 1: But it's what Kingsbury said earlier today when asked about 545 00:29:13,800 --> 00:29:17,200 Speaker 1: Edmund's quote, he will continue to have a major role 546 00:29:17,720 --> 00:29:21,240 Speaker 1: in this offense end quote MJ. Not just the role, 547 00:29:21,840 --> 00:29:25,960 Speaker 1: a major role, And I thought that word was telling 548 00:29:26,240 --> 00:29:29,160 Speaker 1: from the head coach. Yeah, they believe in him. And 549 00:29:29,920 --> 00:29:33,240 Speaker 1: you know, another great guy, young player. I mean I 550 00:29:33,240 --> 00:29:36,000 Speaker 1: always think of the three Musketeers, him in Surefield, and 551 00:29:36,520 --> 00:29:38,400 Speaker 1: you know, obviously Surefield has been a little bit older 552 00:29:38,440 --> 00:29:41,560 Speaker 1: than those guys than Christian Kirk. They have great chemistry 553 00:29:41,680 --> 00:29:44,240 Speaker 1: and they're all rooting for each other. So it's nice 554 00:29:44,280 --> 00:29:47,360 Speaker 1: to see. And again, it's always nice to have your 555 00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:49,720 Speaker 1: twenty two starters, but you gotta have some depth. And 556 00:29:49,960 --> 00:29:53,120 Speaker 1: Cardinals looked like they want to play possibly seventeen players 557 00:29:53,160 --> 00:29:57,240 Speaker 1: on offense and maybe seventeen eighteen and defense. So I 558 00:29:57,360 --> 00:29:59,880 Speaker 1: just think it's a golden opportunity for all these guys 559 00:30:00,840 --> 00:30:03,720 Speaker 1: to get their number called, and then when your number 560 00:30:03,920 --> 00:30:07,080 Speaker 1: is called, what do you do with those opportunities? And 561 00:30:07,320 --> 00:30:10,120 Speaker 1: Edmonds has made the most of it. The forty two 562 00:30:10,200 --> 00:30:13,920 Speaker 1: yard kickoff return and then nine touches on offense, so 563 00:30:14,640 --> 00:30:19,000 Speaker 1: ten touches overall eighty seven all purpose yards. Again, that's 564 00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:21,840 Speaker 1: a lot for a limited number of times your number 565 00:30:22,480 --> 00:30:25,200 Speaker 1: was called. So we'll see how much he gets his 566 00:30:25,360 --> 00:30:28,800 Speaker 1: number called even more now advancing to next week. And 567 00:30:28,960 --> 00:30:33,360 Speaker 1: then that one play immediately after the punt block, the 568 00:30:33,480 --> 00:30:36,920 Speaker 1: quick swing passed the right and Edmonds doing the bulk 569 00:30:37,120 --> 00:30:39,160 Speaker 1: of the work, not only getting to the outside but 570 00:30:39,240 --> 00:30:41,800 Speaker 1: getting to the pylon and stretching out his arm and 571 00:30:41,920 --> 00:30:44,560 Speaker 1: hitting the pylon, the presence of mind to know where 572 00:30:44,600 --> 00:30:47,800 Speaker 1: he was on the field, and of course making sure 573 00:30:48,240 --> 00:30:50,040 Speaker 1: that you know, the ball doesn't have to cross the 574 00:30:50,160 --> 00:30:52,960 Speaker 1: goal line. If it hits the pylon, that's a touchdown 575 00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:55,520 Speaker 1: as well. Well. He mentioned he watched a lot of 576 00:30:55,640 --> 00:30:59,960 Speaker 1: Elvin Kamara film and you see these guys in the offseat. 577 00:31:00,400 --> 00:31:02,760 Speaker 1: It's almost like take a medicine ball and then cut 578 00:31:02,840 --> 00:31:06,360 Speaker 1: it in half and they have to balance ourselves with 579 00:31:06,600 --> 00:31:09,640 Speaker 1: one leg, which is basically the ankle, the knee and 580 00:31:09,920 --> 00:31:12,600 Speaker 1: the and the thigh and the whole leg I guess um. 581 00:31:12,800 --> 00:31:15,240 Speaker 1: And so that's balance. And he said that you know, 582 00:31:15,520 --> 00:31:18,040 Speaker 1: probably in college he went to a small school, it 583 00:31:18,120 --> 00:31:21,600 Speaker 1: was always about where no where the uh, the out 584 00:31:21,640 --> 00:31:23,720 Speaker 1: of bounce line is and if you can tiptoe down 585 00:31:23,800 --> 00:31:27,000 Speaker 1: it or um, it's a lot more effective. And you know, 586 00:31:27,080 --> 00:31:29,440 Speaker 1: you see a lot of guys whether they're a left 587 00:31:29,480 --> 00:31:31,800 Speaker 1: hand or right handed, and I think Chase maybe left handed, 588 00:31:31,840 --> 00:31:33,320 Speaker 1: but you want to put that ball in your right 589 00:31:33,360 --> 00:31:35,360 Speaker 1: hand to get to the pylon and it's going to 590 00:31:35,400 --> 00:31:38,960 Speaker 1: be an automatic touchdown. And you're always you know, Larry, 591 00:31:38,960 --> 00:31:40,840 Speaker 1: if a guy stepping out of balance or his neat 592 00:31:40,920 --> 00:31:43,680 Speaker 1: like like Hopkins did, but obviously he was getting tackled. 593 00:31:43,800 --> 00:31:47,080 Speaker 1: So yeah, you could see when they get down there 594 00:31:47,120 --> 00:31:50,040 Speaker 1: like that, they sniff the end zone. Yeah, you want 595 00:31:50,040 --> 00:31:53,240 Speaker 1: to make sure that you're got that hand securely on 596 00:31:53,400 --> 00:31:55,880 Speaker 1: that football because you certainly don't want it knocked out 597 00:31:56,160 --> 00:32:00,080 Speaker 1: as well. But yeah, and we also talked about, you know, 598 00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:02,600 Speaker 1: even though he didn't make the play and doesn't show 599 00:32:02,680 --> 00:32:05,680 Speaker 1: up in the stats at box score, Dan and Arroll, 600 00:32:05,760 --> 00:32:07,880 Speaker 1: I mean, I watched the film and I thought he 601 00:32:08,040 --> 00:32:12,200 Speaker 1: froze the linebacker and the way Edmonds kind of tailed out, 602 00:32:12,480 --> 00:32:14,480 Speaker 1: it wasn't straight to the line. He had to kind 603 00:32:14,520 --> 00:32:18,280 Speaker 1: of get himself some momentum. And obviously Kyler recognizes if 604 00:32:18,320 --> 00:32:21,600 Speaker 1: so when those linebackers got froze, that opened him up 605 00:32:21,640 --> 00:32:24,320 Speaker 1: it's almost walking into the end zone. Yeah, he is 606 00:32:24,480 --> 00:32:28,600 Speaker 1: talking about Chase Edmonds showing more and more that maybe 607 00:32:29,280 --> 00:32:32,960 Speaker 1: he could be a starter in this league. Kingsbury's brought 608 00:32:33,040 --> 00:32:35,760 Speaker 1: that up twice, once in training camp and then earlier 609 00:32:35,800 --> 00:32:39,120 Speaker 1: today that they view talking about the Cardinals Chase Edmonds 610 00:32:39,320 --> 00:32:41,520 Speaker 1: as a starting running back in this league. It's just 611 00:32:41,680 --> 00:32:45,440 Speaker 1: right now he's behind well, earlier it was behind David Johnson, 612 00:32:45,480 --> 00:32:48,240 Speaker 1: and now it's behind Kenyan Drake. And the more he's 613 00:32:48,280 --> 00:32:50,680 Speaker 1: on the field, the more he produces. I know he's 614 00:32:51,080 --> 00:32:54,600 Speaker 1: not as big as far as size is concerned, but 615 00:32:55,200 --> 00:32:58,560 Speaker 1: it's hard to argue based off what we're seeing each 616 00:32:58,640 --> 00:33:01,560 Speaker 1: week on Sundays. Yeah, I just you know, we've got 617 00:33:01,680 --> 00:33:03,520 Speaker 1: to let it breathe a little bit, let it play out. 618 00:33:03,720 --> 00:33:06,920 Speaker 1: I mean, we get to the second half of the season, 619 00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:10,680 Speaker 1: if he's you know, he's continued to make progress, maybe 620 00:33:10,720 --> 00:33:13,680 Speaker 1: we'll see split carries. I mean, obviously don't want to 621 00:33:13,720 --> 00:33:15,880 Speaker 1: tip your hand. I do think, as you pointed out, 622 00:33:15,960 --> 00:33:18,240 Speaker 1: he was targeted more than Kenyan Drake. I know Drake 623 00:33:18,320 --> 00:33:21,160 Speaker 1: wants to be that that dual threat where you can 624 00:33:21,240 --> 00:33:23,000 Speaker 1: catch the ball in the backfield, but I just think 625 00:33:23,040 --> 00:33:25,800 Speaker 1: he's more fluent in the open field, So that's a plus, 626 00:33:26,040 --> 00:33:28,840 Speaker 1: especially you know, if you want to go three or 627 00:33:28,880 --> 00:33:33,760 Speaker 1: four wide, he becomes a weapon on the outside. Chase Edmonds, well, 628 00:33:33,800 --> 00:33:36,400 Speaker 1: you've talked about it earlier as far as what the 629 00:33:36,480 --> 00:33:38,880 Speaker 1: rest of the division is doing at the running back position, 630 00:33:39,080 --> 00:33:41,280 Speaker 1: and it is running back by committee. We saw the 631 00:33:41,320 --> 00:33:44,240 Speaker 1: forty nine ers shuffle in and out three different running backs. Now, 632 00:33:44,480 --> 00:33:46,920 Speaker 1: I don't think the Cardinals have that luxury. And I 633 00:33:46,960 --> 00:33:48,520 Speaker 1: don't even know if it is a luxury when you 634 00:33:48,600 --> 00:33:51,320 Speaker 1: have all the weapons in the receiving room and in 635 00:33:51,400 --> 00:33:54,440 Speaker 1: the tight end room. But maybe we throw in the Cardinals. 636 00:33:54,520 --> 00:33:57,360 Speaker 1: As far as a quote unquote running back by committee, yeah, 637 00:33:57,440 --> 00:33:59,280 Speaker 1: I mean it talked about it last year and they 638 00:33:59,320 --> 00:34:02,320 Speaker 1: brought it in Zack Center and Elfred Morrison. Obviously. I 639 00:34:02,400 --> 00:34:05,320 Speaker 1: think the scenario there was, you know, they had injuries 640 00:34:05,360 --> 00:34:07,480 Speaker 1: with Chase Edmonds and David Johnson and then they pull 641 00:34:07,520 --> 00:34:10,120 Speaker 1: off the trade for Drake and he became the guy. 642 00:34:10,239 --> 00:34:12,680 Speaker 1: I think teams prefer like you know how it is, 643 00:34:13,719 --> 00:34:16,680 Speaker 1: you know the old Barry Sanders plus two, minus one 644 00:34:16,840 --> 00:34:19,359 Speaker 1: plus three and then he rubs off a fourteen yard game. 645 00:34:20,400 --> 00:34:21,920 Speaker 1: You have to get the flow of the game. You 646 00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:25,400 Speaker 1: have to get hit a little bit. And one one 647 00:34:25,440 --> 00:34:27,480 Speaker 1: of the things that I really appreciate about Drake and 648 00:34:27,640 --> 00:34:29,920 Speaker 1: Edmonds is you don't see a lot of tackle for losses. 649 00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:34,680 Speaker 1: They fall forward and they're willing to basically give with 650 00:34:34,760 --> 00:34:37,320 Speaker 1: the defense is going to allow. In other words, you know, 651 00:34:37,400 --> 00:34:40,200 Speaker 1: we're we're gonna you know, tack you three yards past 652 00:34:40,320 --> 00:34:42,359 Speaker 1: line of scrimmage versus if you get seven or eight 653 00:34:42,719 --> 00:34:45,200 Speaker 1: down the field. So that's what I like about him, 654 00:34:45,239 --> 00:34:47,920 Speaker 1: and I think it starts off front with the blocking 655 00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:50,680 Speaker 1: scheme under Sean Coogler. Well, that's gonna be one thing 656 00:34:50,760 --> 00:34:53,480 Speaker 1: to kind of pay attention to that momentum. You know, 657 00:34:53,560 --> 00:34:56,200 Speaker 1: you ride the hot hand and does Kenyan get Drake 658 00:34:56,280 --> 00:34:57,960 Speaker 1: get on a roll or does it take him some 659 00:34:58,120 --> 00:34:59,880 Speaker 1: time to get on a role And that's when ch 660 00:35:00,239 --> 00:35:02,320 Speaker 1: Edmonds gets in. But your point about, you know, you 661 00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:04,919 Speaker 1: want to keep feeding the guy even if maybe those 662 00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:07,480 Speaker 1: first couple of carriers is no gain or a loss 663 00:35:07,640 --> 00:35:11,240 Speaker 1: or a short gain because typically running backs build momentum, 664 00:35:11,280 --> 00:35:14,279 Speaker 1: build steam towards the later part of the ball game. Yeah, 665 00:35:14,440 --> 00:35:17,719 Speaker 1: I still think and we'll let to monitor this, you know, 666 00:35:17,920 --> 00:35:20,359 Speaker 1: the first month of the season. Just I still think 667 00:35:20,440 --> 00:35:22,279 Speaker 1: Drake's gonna go out there again. They could start the 668 00:35:22,320 --> 00:35:24,840 Speaker 1: game with Edmonds's one play and players will tell you, 669 00:35:24,960 --> 00:35:27,160 Speaker 1: I'm more concerned at what's happening in the fourth quarter 670 00:35:27,160 --> 00:35:29,719 Speaker 1: of my end the field help you know their team win. 671 00:35:30,520 --> 00:35:34,279 Speaker 1: So it could hear every third or fourth possession, but 672 00:35:34,400 --> 00:35:35,880 Speaker 1: you can have a lot of running backs kind of 673 00:35:35,920 --> 00:35:38,640 Speaker 1: get in the rhythm and it may not be pretty. 674 00:35:38,840 --> 00:35:41,520 Speaker 1: Last week, the Cardinals were three and out in their 675 00:35:41,560 --> 00:35:44,239 Speaker 1: first two possessions, and you know, Cliffs throwing the ball 676 00:35:44,320 --> 00:35:47,920 Speaker 1: around and they still want to run it. So you 677 00:35:48,000 --> 00:35:51,360 Speaker 1: got to stick to what you believe in. But I 678 00:35:51,480 --> 00:35:54,320 Speaker 1: definitely think to bottom line this, I definitely think Edmonds 679 00:35:54,400 --> 00:35:57,360 Speaker 1: is gonna get more opportunities. Could also be a conditioning 680 00:35:57,960 --> 00:36:02,359 Speaker 1: thing because of no pref season, and we heard Kingsberry say, hey, 681 00:36:02,600 --> 00:36:05,520 Speaker 1: the reason they throw nine straight times to open up 682 00:36:05,560 --> 00:36:07,400 Speaker 1: the ball game is because they wanted to tire out 683 00:36:07,480 --> 00:36:10,839 Speaker 1: the forty nine ers defense the first and did Now 684 00:36:11,000 --> 00:36:12,840 Speaker 1: is that the game plan this week? Who knows? But 685 00:36:13,239 --> 00:36:16,920 Speaker 1: maybe more shuffling of players early on outside of the 686 00:36:17,040 --> 00:36:20,759 Speaker 1: offensive line and quarterback, of course, because you want to 687 00:36:20,840 --> 00:36:22,880 Speaker 1: make sure that these guys don't get blown up and 688 00:36:22,920 --> 00:36:25,680 Speaker 1: all of a sudden are tired midway through the second quarter. 689 00:36:26,040 --> 00:36:28,200 Speaker 1: You know, I asked to somebody, you think hop can 690 00:36:28,280 --> 00:36:31,880 Speaker 1: get you know, sixteen targets this upcoming week and fourteen 691 00:36:31,960 --> 00:36:33,920 Speaker 1: catches for one hundred and fifty one yards. They said, 692 00:36:33,960 --> 00:36:38,520 Speaker 1: if they don't cover him, he'd go. That's so strange 693 00:36:38,520 --> 00:36:41,239 Speaker 1: about Sundays the forty nine ers inability to figure out 694 00:36:41,440 --> 00:36:44,759 Speaker 1: where number ten was on the field. That's amazing. I mean, 695 00:36:44,840 --> 00:36:47,600 Speaker 1: it's one of the biggest offseason trades. It will go 696 00:36:47,680 --> 00:36:49,040 Speaker 1: down in one of the top three or four in 697 00:36:49,080 --> 00:36:52,560 Speaker 1: Cardinals history. So, I mean, he was being sarcastic with me, 698 00:36:53,760 --> 00:36:55,520 Speaker 1: but he said, I said, do you think he can 699 00:36:55,600 --> 00:36:59,120 Speaker 1: do it again? He goes, if if Washington can't cover him, 700 00:36:59,120 --> 00:37:01,080 Speaker 1: you're going to see the same thing now. I do think, 701 00:37:02,520 --> 00:37:04,759 Speaker 1: as I pointed out earlier in the show, that they 702 00:37:04,840 --> 00:37:08,400 Speaker 1: want to get Isabella Moore involved when they go forward wide. 703 00:37:08,760 --> 00:37:11,759 Speaker 1: He was the fourth wide receiver. I think Fitzgerald's going 704 00:37:11,800 --> 00:37:13,880 Speaker 1: to get some more targets and touches, and the guy 705 00:37:14,000 --> 00:37:18,840 Speaker 1: that they're really intrigued with, unfortunately just you know he's 706 00:37:18,880 --> 00:37:21,719 Speaker 1: in the right spot. It's Christian Kirk. So I think 707 00:37:21,760 --> 00:37:23,520 Speaker 1: there'll be a little bit more balanced this week. But 708 00:37:23,600 --> 00:37:26,120 Speaker 1: if they don't cover him, why not Why wouldn't you 709 00:37:26,200 --> 00:37:29,279 Speaker 1: throw it to hop Hey, he's got one of the 710 00:37:29,640 --> 00:37:31,959 Speaker 1: surer's hands in the game, if not the surst hands 711 00:37:32,000 --> 00:37:33,600 Speaker 1: in the game. And if you're gonna play off him, 712 00:37:34,400 --> 00:37:38,200 Speaker 1: throw the short pass and let Hopkins make a defender 713 00:37:38,280 --> 00:37:40,600 Speaker 1: miss or two and let him use his skill set. 714 00:37:41,640 --> 00:37:43,920 Speaker 1: I was fascinating when Hopp came out this week and 715 00:37:44,000 --> 00:37:47,000 Speaker 1: he talked about, you know, he saw Kylo's cut ups 716 00:37:47,040 --> 00:37:49,520 Speaker 1: and he knew he could run, and then obviously going 717 00:37:49,560 --> 00:37:52,600 Speaker 1: to Dallas for a short period time and then obviously 718 00:37:52,760 --> 00:37:55,319 Speaker 1: going to training camp, and he was he was really 719 00:37:55,360 --> 00:37:57,920 Speaker 1: impressed with his arm strength. And Hope said, there's a 720 00:37:57,960 --> 00:38:01,600 Speaker 1: lot of quarterbacks in the NFL that when they'll stand 721 00:38:01,719 --> 00:38:04,360 Speaker 1: on the right hash mark, but they don't want to 722 00:38:04,440 --> 00:38:06,680 Speaker 1: throw all the way across the field when a guy's 723 00:38:07,040 --> 00:38:10,400 Speaker 1: for a comeback route or an out route. And I asked, Murray, 724 00:38:10,480 --> 00:38:13,320 Speaker 1: do you relish those opportunities? And he said, you know, 725 00:38:14,160 --> 00:38:16,200 Speaker 1: he's been doing it, and I think it's it's lower tour. 726 00:38:16,320 --> 00:38:18,000 Speaker 1: So the way he's able to turn his hits and 727 00:38:18,080 --> 00:38:21,800 Speaker 1: the quick arm or a quick release, I'm sure he 728 00:38:21,920 --> 00:38:24,480 Speaker 1: taught from his father, who has been his quarterbacks coach 729 00:38:24,560 --> 00:38:27,160 Speaker 1: since he was probably five or six years old playing 730 00:38:27,239 --> 00:38:31,399 Speaker 1: baseball and football. But that hot something out the bag 731 00:38:31,480 --> 00:38:33,960 Speaker 1: there where a lot of quarterbacks won't throw it outside. 732 00:38:34,200 --> 00:38:37,400 Speaker 1: It's amazing that And he said, I will take chances. 733 00:38:37,840 --> 00:38:40,359 Speaker 1: It's not a machuo thing because you know, you look 734 00:38:40,360 --> 00:38:44,160 Speaker 1: at janeln Ramsey, Um, you know with the pick six there. 735 00:38:44,280 --> 00:38:47,359 Speaker 1: You look at Tom Brady got the pick six there. Uh. 736 00:38:47,480 --> 00:38:50,840 Speaker 1: They read these routes, they jump these routes. But Coller's 737 00:38:50,960 --> 00:38:53,839 Speaker 1: arm strength and in the his accuracy and the way 738 00:38:53,880 --> 00:38:56,359 Speaker 1: he gets rid of that ball, he said, I'll take 739 00:38:56,400 --> 00:38:59,480 Speaker 1: some chances. But it's I'm very unusual for quarterbacks, not 740 00:38:59,600 --> 00:39:02,120 Speaker 1: so much thrown across your body, but standing on that 741 00:39:02,600 --> 00:39:05,439 Speaker 1: right hash mark and then delivering that ball and it's 742 00:39:05,520 --> 00:39:08,439 Speaker 1: in sync when the receiver comes back to the ball. Yeah, 743 00:39:08,520 --> 00:39:11,399 Speaker 1: he's doing it because he can not to show off 744 00:39:11,600 --> 00:39:14,920 Speaker 1: his arm talent or arm strength. It's just something as 745 00:39:14,960 --> 00:39:17,719 Speaker 1: you mentioned, he's always done it and the good quarterbacks, 746 00:39:17,800 --> 00:39:20,239 Speaker 1: the great quarterbacks, are able to do it and do 747 00:39:20,320 --> 00:39:24,839 Speaker 1: it successfully. There's no doubt. And that's I mean, I'm 748 00:39:25,080 --> 00:39:28,239 Speaker 1: really really just excited to see what he can do 749 00:39:28,360 --> 00:39:30,800 Speaker 1: this season. I know that you know they have the talent, 750 00:39:30,840 --> 00:39:33,200 Speaker 1: and I know he's he's a fierce competitor and he 751 00:39:33,360 --> 00:39:37,200 Speaker 1: wants to win like they all do. But you know, 752 00:39:37,280 --> 00:39:39,239 Speaker 1: we talked about it and when they drafted him and 753 00:39:39,360 --> 00:39:42,200 Speaker 1: after maybe you know, fifteen sixteen games in the season 754 00:39:42,280 --> 00:39:43,800 Speaker 1: last year, we thought, man, if he can just be 755 00:39:43,960 --> 00:39:46,759 Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson in his second year or Patrick Mahomes in 756 00:39:46,800 --> 00:39:48,960 Speaker 1: his third year. And I know people will talk about 757 00:39:49,000 --> 00:39:52,960 Speaker 1: sophomore slump. I don't see it happening. Well, next opportunity 758 00:39:53,000 --> 00:39:55,600 Speaker 1: to see Kyle Murray in action and the Cardinals and 759 00:39:55,680 --> 00:39:59,160 Speaker 1: a couple of days Sunday against Washington one oh five 760 00:39:59,440 --> 00:40:02,440 Speaker 1: is the kick off at State Farm Stadium. And on 761 00:40:02,560 --> 00:40:04,439 Speaker 1: that note, we will put a lid on this edition 762 00:40:04,520 --> 00:40:07,880 Speaker 1: of Cardinals Cover two, presented by Hyunday, proud partner of 763 00:40:08,000 --> 00:40:11,440 Speaker 1: the Arizona Cardinals Special Thanks as always to our executive 764 00:40:11,480 --> 00:40:14,719 Speaker 1: producer Jim Mama Hundre or Mike Jarecki. I'm Craig Rayel Loup. 765 00:40:14,800 --> 00:40:17,480 Speaker 1: We'll talk to you next time you're on Cardinals Cover two.