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Speaker 1: I'm Mitchelt's voice to the Chiefs along with senior team

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Speaker 1: but not as much as some of the draft nerds.

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Speaker 1: But we have learned this being around the Kansas City

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Speaker 2: NFL Draft, it all matters.

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Speaker 1: You know, there's the cliche there's no such thing as

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Speaker 3: It really does. In the first round gets a lot

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Speaker 3: but don't turn the draft off after Thursday. Keep watching

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Speaker 1: And your key is through Saturday. It's throwing some others here.

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Speaker 1: You go to the and to build a roster. We've

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Speaker 1: Let's just about twenty five percent of the cap you

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Speaker 3: And it's fun. I mean, we're back to back Super

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Speaker 3: I love the draft. Draft season has always been fun.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, when you start having though mock UDFA picks, then

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Speaker 3: But people have the all too early mock draft that

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Speaker 3: It sure does. Now we have two fifth round picks, right,

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Speaker 3: And Brett, as you said, is very candid about that

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Speaker 4: I think it's one of the deeper classes. I think

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Speaker 3: It's just the best. Because a lot of general managers,

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Speaker 3: you'll ask them that question and they'll give you just

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Speaker 1: And speaking of opinion, many think this just came out

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Speaker 1: But but you and I have both looked at this.

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Speaker 2: A day one starter. That means you hit it.

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Speaker 3: Pretty remarkable. It lined up well where the Chiefs admittedly

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Speaker 3: At least, there are players that will be available at

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Speaker 3: And like Xavier Worthy is. When I think about Xavier

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Speaker 3: Worthy ran the fastest forty time in the history of

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Speaker 3: the combine, he might not be taken in the first round.

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Speaker 3: In years past, he'd probably be a top fifteen pick.

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Speaker 3: He'd probably be the third best wide receiver on the board.

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Speaker 3: This year, I don't know. I don't know where Xavier

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Speaker 3: that there is a lot of talent at wide receiver

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Speaker 3: this year, a lot of different directions the Chiefs can go.

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Speaker 3: all we know, so a lot of depth at wide

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Speaker 1: If you haven't seen the episode where we and you

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Speaker 1: because this is where the discussion at wide receiver at

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Speaker 2: There is so.

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Speaker 1: Much we saw this last year with Russia Rice. So

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Speaker 1: The other thing is we've talked about this before. Who

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Speaker 2: Who's the slot guy?

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Speaker 1: Motion guy? Can you understand and read a defense? Many

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Speaker 1: All of this we saw come into focus for Rashie

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Speaker 1: when it hit. But whomever, if it is a receiver's

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Speaker 3: It's exciting. And you have to have the physical traits

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Speaker 3: not make it easy. That's why it's not easy to

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Speaker 3: of players once again in this year's draft, could be

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: The second part of Brett's discussion is, and we've seen

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Speaker 1: But the point is the Chiefs have been able to

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Speaker 1: Trent McDuffie comes to mind, his exhibits here. The reality

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Speaker 2: A draft partner. Yeah, this is a very real thing.

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Speaker 1: People are going to joke about it, maybe with your buddies,

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Speaker 1: if you have said this, your list of teams you

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Speaker 2: To trade with you.

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Speaker 1: San Francisco and Philadelphia don't like us much, okay, And

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Speaker 1: John Lynch and Howie Roseman mate say not so much

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Speaker 1: it pans out immediately. Why are you helping those guys?

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Speaker 3: It's like the Ravens traded Orlando Brown junior tests and

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Speaker 3: I think there were people around the league like, what

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Speaker 3: like if the Bengals are going to trade with us, okay,

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Speaker 3: From pick twenty two to twenty seven, those are all

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Speaker 1: And like you, that's manageable from an equity standpoint, because yeah,

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's just kind of you know, weighing the options.

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Speaker 4: there's sixteen eighteen guys this year that we have as

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Speaker 4: I do think there's opportunities to add players that come

437
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Speaker 4: in and push for starting positions in rounds two and.

438
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Speaker 3: Three as well. All right, well, there you have it.

439
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Speaker 3: Brett answered earlier in the press conference about how, of

440
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Speaker 3: course he would love to trade up high in the draft.

441
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Speaker 3: Of course there's these players he would love to acquire,

442
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Speaker 3: but you have to weigh different things. You have to

443
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Speaker 3: first have a player that's worthy of trading up for,

444
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Speaker 3: and that player has to probably be sliding right, So

445
00:20:59,760 --> 00:21:01,720
Speaker 3: you have to kind of react in the moment the

446
00:21:01,760 --> 00:21:04,000
Speaker 3: board comes to you, like, here's a player that we

447
00:21:04,040 --> 00:21:06,640
Speaker 3: thought would be taken earlier. Trent McDuffie's a great example

448
00:21:06,680 --> 00:21:09,800
Speaker 3: of that, because Trent was still there. I picked number

449
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Speaker 3: twenty one. Overall, the Chiefs trade up from twenty nine

450
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Speaker 3: to twenty one. They get Trent worked out really well.

451
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Speaker 3: So you have to have that component, but also the

452
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Speaker 3: trading partner, and that's the difficult part nowadays. There was

453
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Speaker 3: reports out there last year that she's attempted to trade

454
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Speaker 3: up in the first round. Nobody wanted to trade with us,

455
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Speaker 3: and I get it, why would you want to help

456
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Speaker 3: the eventual two time back to back Super Bowl champion.

457
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Speaker 3: So it takes two to tango. We'll see if the

458
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Speaker 3: Chiefs trade up at all on Thursday. I think if

459
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Speaker 3: they stay where they are, they're still going to get

460
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Speaker 3: a very good player. But we'll see how the board falls.

461
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Speaker 2: How many times do you or ally get a call

462
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Speaker 2: and you're like.

463
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Speaker 3: Ooh no, no, frequently I get tons of robo calls, robo.

464
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Speaker 2: Calls every night, or somebody You're like, I don't want

465
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Speaker 2: to talk to them right.

466
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Speaker 3: Now, and it's like marked as spam, you know.

467
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Speaker 1: So imagine the other thirty one teams were marked a

468
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Speaker 1: spam beach.

469
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Speaker 2: It's beach spam. Veach is spam, it's veach? Is that said?

470
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Speaker 1: AI, I don't know, don't take it, don't take it.

471
00:22:01,880 --> 00:22:04,919
Speaker 1: It's veeech's feech. Don't answer the call. So we'll just

472
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Speaker 1: see how this dynamic can work out. It's an interesting

473
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Speaker 1: point that there are potential trade putters at twenty two

474
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Speaker 1: to twenty seven, because maybe he'll see it and move up.

475
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Speaker 1: And keep in mind the dynamic of the draft. When

476
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Speaker 1: Trent McDuffie became available at twenty one, there were runs

477
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Speaker 1: and pushes that could happen in this very draft as well.

478
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Speaker 1: Everybody anticipates probably will happen. A big push early at quarterback.

479
00:22:27,560 --> 00:22:30,399
Speaker 1: Everybody's looking for the next Patrick Mahomes. Then there will

480
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Speaker 1: be a push for those top wide receivers I mentioned earlier,

481
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Speaker 1: three or four, five, and then even before that there

482
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Speaker 1: could be the three or five or more offensive tackles

483
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Speaker 1: who would be Day one starters and potential Pro bowlers.

484
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Speaker 1: So you're going to have runs here, and we'll get

485
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Speaker 1: to position groups here in a second, but that run

486
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Speaker 1: could precipitate.

487
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Speaker 2: It's each on the phone.

488
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Speaker 3: And we can do as many mock drafts as we want.

489
00:22:56,040 --> 00:22:58,000
Speaker 3: The board will never fall the way that we expect

490
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Speaker 3: it to, and the chiefs acknowledge that that it's gonna be.

491
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Speaker 3: There's gonna be surprises and maybe I don't know, like

492
00:23:05,720 --> 00:23:07,760
Speaker 3: eight or nine tackles go in the first round. Well,

493
00:23:07,760 --> 00:23:09,520
Speaker 3: we didn't see that coming, but that means that maybe

494
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Speaker 3: a couple receivers that we thought would be gone are

495
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Speaker 3: there and or vice versa. Let's say nine receivers go.

496
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Speaker 3: That would be a NFL record for the first round.

497
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Speaker 3: But that means maybe one of those premium tackles is

498
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Speaker 3: now there in the mid twenties, so you trade up,

499
00:23:23,040 --> 00:23:25,199
Speaker 3: or maybe they even fall the thirty two. That's the

500
00:23:25,240 --> 00:23:27,320
Speaker 3: fun of the draft. You see how it unfolds because

501
00:23:27,359 --> 00:23:30,560
Speaker 3: every team has their own board. Every team predicts how

502
00:23:30,600 --> 00:23:32,400
Speaker 3: things are going to go, but no one knows what's

503
00:23:32,440 --> 00:23:34,480
Speaker 3: really going to happen. That's why no one can predict

504
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Speaker 3: this with one hundred percent accuracy. And the Chiefs are

505
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Speaker 3: in a great position where I don't think they have

506
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Speaker 3: a spot on the roster where it's like we have

507
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Speaker 3: to do this in round one. I think the Chiefs

508
00:23:45,560 --> 00:23:47,520
Speaker 3: have the benefit right now. They can let the board

509
00:23:47,560 --> 00:23:49,760
Speaker 3: fall to them. Let's see what happens. They're going to

510
00:23:49,800 --> 00:23:52,040
Speaker 3: get a really good player at thirty two overall, and

511
00:23:52,080 --> 00:23:53,919
Speaker 3: if there's a guy that slides that they really are

512
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Speaker 3: in love with, maybe you move up into the mid

513
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Speaker 3: twenties for them. But it's a great spot to be

514
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Speaker 3: the back to back defending champion with an opportunity to

515
00:24:01,160 --> 00:24:03,600
Speaker 3: get better, but not a situation where you have to

516
00:24:03,640 --> 00:24:04,560
Speaker 3: fill a need right now.

517
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Speaker 2: And keep that thought.

518
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Speaker 1: We'll get to that after this comment from Brett Veach,

519
00:24:08,640 --> 00:24:11,320
Speaker 1: which deals with we have done such a good job

520
00:24:11,320 --> 00:24:15,000
Speaker 1: of building this roster, and many times it's done even

521
00:24:15,000 --> 00:24:17,439
Speaker 1: with someone who's not been drafted. Eco Boido shows up

522
00:24:17,440 --> 00:24:19,359
Speaker 1: for a tryout and makes the team and downs the

523
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Speaker 1: punt at the one against New England. And we've been

524
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Speaker 1: through all that a couple of episodes ago. But building

525
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Speaker 1: the board, and I think we take great pride in

526
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Speaker 1: that for the Chiefs, and let's give credit to to

527
00:24:32,560 --> 00:24:34,840
Speaker 1: the Ravens. The Ravens seem to have done this for years.

528
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Speaker 1: But when you build the board, it's also having the

529
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Speaker 1: magic of now the draft's over, but who can we

530
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Speaker 1: find to either one right away make the squad. Jack

531
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Speaker 1: Cochran comes to mind, or two a developmental player who

532
00:24:49,280 --> 00:24:51,320
Speaker 1: you put in the crock pot and they become a

533
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Speaker 1: player a year or two into your system.

534
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Speaker 3: And Nick Jacobs from forty one asked Brett directly how

535
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Speaker 3: many players are on your board? And when you first

536
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Speaker 3: think about that draft board, you may think, well, it's

537
00:25:01,440 --> 00:25:03,600
Speaker 3: just because those are players that they might draft, But

538
00:25:04,480 --> 00:25:06,399
Speaker 3: it goes hand in hand with what you're talking about.

539
00:25:06,640 --> 00:25:10,560
Speaker 3: As Brett's about to mention, he'll use this expansive draft

540
00:25:10,600 --> 00:25:13,119
Speaker 3: board that will then turn into a free agency board

541
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Speaker 3: as soon as the draft ends.

542
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Speaker 4: I wrote that down. I knew someone was gonna ask

543
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Speaker 4: me that, because I never know I just see a

544
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Speaker 4: bunch of names up there. I don't like count them.

545
00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:23,560
Speaker 4: My sort of just move them around and I have

546
00:25:23,640 --> 00:25:28,560
Speaker 4: them in like pockets. But I was walking in here,

547
00:25:28,600 --> 00:25:30,280
Speaker 4: I said, someone's gonna ask me exactly how many guys

548
00:25:30,320 --> 00:25:31,680
Speaker 4: I have on the board. So it's two twenty one,

549
00:25:32,400 --> 00:25:36,199
Speaker 4: which is a lot. But you'd have to come in

550
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Speaker 4: here and be with me one day to see how

551
00:25:37,760 --> 00:25:40,840
Speaker 4: I process this, because like, I have guys in the

552
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Speaker 4: sixth or seventh round on my board, but I always

553
00:25:43,800 --> 00:25:45,920
Speaker 4: know that we'll never get to the sixth and seventh round.

554
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Speaker 4: So the total number of boards, a total number of

555
00:25:49,040 --> 00:25:51,600
Speaker 4: players on the board to twenty one. But in my mind,

556
00:25:52,040 --> 00:25:53,960
Speaker 4: there's kind of like a line right there, and those

557
00:25:53,960 --> 00:25:56,640
Speaker 4: guys in six and seven we keep on the board

558
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Speaker 4: because that's where I want to work Doun on free agency,

559
00:25:58,960 --> 00:26:01,159
Speaker 4: and so I know where I'm going. When as soon

560
00:26:01,160 --> 00:26:03,600
Speaker 4: as he drafts over the guys that we had on

561
00:26:03,640 --> 00:26:05,800
Speaker 4: the board at six to seven, again, we'll have plenty

562
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Speaker 4: of numbers.

563
00:26:06,200 --> 00:26:07,000
Speaker 3: We'll never get to him.

564
00:26:07,119 --> 00:26:09,040
Speaker 4: But that's my free agency board and that's kind of

565
00:26:09,040 --> 00:26:09,800
Speaker 4: how we work through that.

566
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Speaker 3: So pretty cool. It seems like an obvious thing to do,

567
00:26:13,720 --> 00:26:15,920
Speaker 3: But the reality is a lot of front offices around

568
00:26:15,920 --> 00:26:19,800
Speaker 3: the NFL do not put the effort in on these

569
00:26:20,560 --> 00:26:24,640
Speaker 3: seventh round to priority free agent range kind of players.

570
00:26:25,240 --> 00:26:27,000
Speaker 3: They just don't do it. They put a lot of

571
00:26:27,000 --> 00:26:29,560
Speaker 3: effort into the first part of the draft, and then

572
00:26:30,280 --> 00:26:34,119
Speaker 3: it takes people who do not want to do anything

573
00:26:34,119 --> 00:26:36,639
Speaker 3: else but sit in a room and watch tape. It's hard,

574
00:26:37,200 --> 00:26:39,720
Speaker 3: but it's really just a human will thing. And the

575
00:26:39,760 --> 00:26:42,600
Speaker 3: Chiefs have these people. I've asked Bread about it. He's like,

576
00:26:42,640 --> 00:26:46,439
Speaker 3: we just really really drill in on these players in

577
00:26:46,480 --> 00:26:48,520
Speaker 3: the latter half of the draft and the priority of

578
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Speaker 3: free agents. And you mentioned Jack Cochrane. Mike Caliendo is

579
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Speaker 3: another one, a player that has a chance to contribute

580
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Speaker 3: to this team.

581
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Speaker 5: This year and could be the new Nick Kellergreta. He

582
00:26:57,640 --> 00:26:59,840
Speaker 5: could be, Yeah, he could be that sixth man offense.

583
00:27:00,440 --> 00:27:02,680
Speaker 5: And he's a UDFA out of Western Michigan and he's

584
00:27:02,800 --> 00:27:06,600
Speaker 5: versatile exactly. Tshaum Wharton is one of the great examples

585
00:27:06,600 --> 00:27:09,639
Speaker 5: of this over the years, at UDFA from Missouri S

586
00:27:09,680 --> 00:27:11,520
Speaker 5: and T several years ago, and of course has been

587
00:27:11,520 --> 00:27:14,119
Speaker 5: a major contributor for this team. Tommy Townsend was this

588
00:27:14,160 --> 00:27:17,160
Speaker 5: team's punter for a handful of years Udfa. You mentioned

589
00:27:17,160 --> 00:27:20,000
Speaker 5: Echo Boido and Jack Cochran. Like I said earlier, so

590
00:27:20,200 --> 00:27:22,880
Speaker 5: the Chiefs have been really good about finding these players. Well,

591
00:27:22,920 --> 00:27:25,320
Speaker 5: how do they do it. They're on their draft board,

592
00:27:25,960 --> 00:27:28,080
Speaker 5: ranked in a way where they can see the value

593
00:27:28,359 --> 00:27:30,800
Speaker 5: and they can go down the list immediately start calling

594
00:27:30,840 --> 00:27:32,520
Speaker 5: guys as soon as the draft ends. Here are the

595
00:27:32,520 --> 00:27:34,080
Speaker 5: guys that we want. Here are the players that we

596
00:27:34,119 --> 00:27:37,760
Speaker 5: would draft if the draft went twelve rounds. It's really genius.

597
00:27:37,760 --> 00:27:39,760
Speaker 5: And again it seems obvious, but a lot of teams

598
00:27:39,800 --> 00:27:40,920
Speaker 5: don't do that, and the Chiefs do.

599
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Speaker 1: And why wouldn't you want to come to be a Chief?

600
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Speaker 1: And two, this goes back to our previous episode with

601
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Speaker 1: the agents.

602
00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:48,480
Speaker 2: I'm sorry with the scouts.

603
00:27:48,800 --> 00:27:53,080
Speaker 1: Those guys develop relationships early, early on with these guys,

604
00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:55,960
Speaker 1: and so many times there's a conduit already built. It's

605
00:27:56,000 --> 00:27:59,560
Speaker 1: college recruiting, it becomes college recruiting, and then you get

606
00:27:59,600 --> 00:28:02,960
Speaker 1: the walk on if you will, as you alluded to.

607
00:28:04,280 --> 00:28:06,760
Speaker 1: But you can also give these guys some money, right,

608
00:28:06,800 --> 00:28:09,439
Speaker 1: there's some money involved in this to recruit them. And

609
00:28:09,520 --> 00:28:12,600
Speaker 1: so the Chiefs have done an excellent job of it,

610
00:28:12,720 --> 00:28:15,640
Speaker 1: and quite honestly, it's a goal of having won two

611
00:28:15,720 --> 00:28:19,520
Speaker 1: or three that make your roster every year, hopefully two

612
00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:23,239
Speaker 1: that become players. I mean they're helping you win that

613
00:28:23,280 --> 00:28:24,080
Speaker 1: Thursday night game.

614
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Speaker 3: And you sign maybe fifteen to twenty udfas immediately after

615
00:28:29,280 --> 00:28:32,280
Speaker 3: the draft, and then you have like forty five guys

616
00:28:32,320 --> 00:28:36,879
Speaker 3: who you extend tryout opportunities to and next weekend at

617
00:28:36,920 --> 00:28:40,240
Speaker 3: rookie minti camp. It's amazing. I mean it's guys doubling

618
00:28:40,320 --> 00:28:43,720
Speaker 3: up on numbers. There's just like fifty guys out there,

619
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Speaker 3: and we have this roster. We don't know three quarters

620
00:28:47,280 --> 00:28:49,840
Speaker 3: of them. We learn about them that day, and the

621
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Speaker 3: vast majority are tryout players. So the Chiefs first round

622
00:28:53,840 --> 00:28:55,600
Speaker 3: pick will be out there, and their second round pick

623
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Speaker 3: and the rest of their drafted players, the udfas will

624
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Speaker 3: be out there, and then all these tryout guys in

625
00:29:00,840 --> 00:29:04,040
Speaker 3: every time, one or two of the tryout guys of

626
00:29:04,080 --> 00:29:06,880
Speaker 3: these forty players that don't have any commitment from the

627
00:29:06,960 --> 00:29:09,880
Speaker 3: Chiefs beyond that weekend end up getting signed. And Echo

628
00:29:09,920 --> 00:29:14,480
Speaker 3: Boido was that guy. Last year, Echo Boido was invited

629
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Speaker 3: to Chiefs rookie Mini camp and he showed the Chiefs

630
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Speaker 3: some things and earned a contract, and then of course

631
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Speaker 3: he played for the Chiefs during the season. It's a remarkable,

632
00:29:22,480 --> 00:29:25,840
Speaker 3: amazing story, but it goes to show all of the

633
00:29:25,880 --> 00:29:29,360
Speaker 3: work and effort that went into finding Echo Boydo pays

634
00:29:29,400 --> 00:29:31,320
Speaker 3: off when Echo Boydo makes a couple of plays on

635
00:29:31,360 --> 00:29:33,800
Speaker 3: special teams during the season. I mean, it's not all

636
00:29:33,840 --> 00:29:38,680
Speaker 3: about fifty yard touchdowns and a giant sack on third down.

637
00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:42,040
Speaker 3: It's about finding every player that can help you win

638
00:29:42,080 --> 00:29:45,000
Speaker 3: in any situation. And the Chiefs are committed to that

639
00:29:45,360 --> 00:29:48,480
Speaker 3: by not just nailing the first round, by also finding

640
00:29:48,520 --> 00:29:51,000
Speaker 3: who are we going to invite to rookie mini camp,

641
00:29:51,680 --> 00:29:53,680
Speaker 3: and then when we get those players there, which one

642
00:29:53,680 --> 00:29:55,480
Speaker 3: stood out? That's really impressive to me.

643
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Speaker 1: An Echo Boido, who went back to k State spring practice,

644
00:29:59,440 --> 00:30:01,080
Speaker 1: went back as Super Bowl champion.

645
00:30:01,240 --> 00:30:04,000
Speaker 2: He's getting bro hugs like, dude, you're on the Super Bowl.

646
00:30:04,040 --> 00:30:04,840
Speaker 2: See pretty cool.

647
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Speaker 1: All right, let's have some fun here as we close

648
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Speaker 1: out this addition of defending the Kingdom, and again it

649
00:30:10,920 --> 00:30:14,280
Speaker 1: all counts is the way we're and we've laid it

650
00:30:14,320 --> 00:30:17,920
Speaker 1: out for you that it's everything during the draft weekend

651
00:30:17,920 --> 00:30:20,880
Speaker 1: even a little bit past that. But let's start with

652
00:30:20,920 --> 00:30:23,120
Speaker 1: wide receiver You've been asked about it every day, so

653
00:30:23,240 --> 00:30:23,480
Speaker 1: have I.

654
00:30:24,360 --> 00:30:26,360
Speaker 2: Who do you like? Who'll be there at thirty two?

655
00:30:26,680 --> 00:30:27,240
Speaker 2: Who knows?

656
00:30:27,760 --> 00:30:31,520
Speaker 1: This is not coming from our scouting staff. All right,

657
00:30:31,600 --> 00:30:33,440
Speaker 1: that's the first coveya. It's like, oh well, Mitch and

658
00:30:33,480 --> 00:30:35,320
Speaker 1: Matt said it. Then you get us called into the

659
00:30:35,360 --> 00:30:38,080
Speaker 1: principal's office. This is not giving out government secrets. The

660
00:30:38,120 --> 00:30:41,120
Speaker 1: other thing. And here's a warning too. Don't fall in

661
00:30:41,160 --> 00:30:43,760
Speaker 1: love with any one player. Yeah, cannot do it.

662
00:30:43,800 --> 00:30:46,720
Speaker 2: I always do it. It'll break your heart, dude, not

663
00:30:46,840 --> 00:30:48,880
Speaker 2: do it. There are the Brian Cooks of the world. Yeah.

664
00:30:48,880 --> 00:30:50,160
Speaker 3: I fell in love with Brian Cook in the pre

665
00:30:50,240 --> 00:30:51,120
Speaker 3: draft process.

666
00:30:50,840 --> 00:30:53,800
Speaker 1: And I go, we got him, You go, we got him. No,

667
00:30:53,920 --> 00:30:56,040
Speaker 1: this goes back, ladies and gentlemen. We got him dating

668
00:30:56,120 --> 00:30:58,240
Speaker 1: my wife and she broke my heart like three times.

669
00:30:58,280 --> 00:31:00,400
Speaker 1: Like I thought this was the one. It's like, hang

670
00:31:00,480 --> 00:31:04,680
Speaker 1: in there, hang in there. So don't just don't fall

671
00:31:04,720 --> 00:31:06,400
Speaker 1: in love with any one player, but let's go with

672
00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:07,120
Speaker 1: wide receiver.

673
00:31:07,160 --> 00:31:08,800
Speaker 2: Who do you think is there? Or who do you like?

674
00:31:08,800 --> 00:31:09,840
Speaker 2: Who's your favorite player?

675
00:31:09,920 --> 00:31:13,280
Speaker 3: Okay, Mitch and I have not crossed notes beforehand, so

676
00:31:13,480 --> 00:31:15,760
Speaker 3: we're just going into this. We're gonna mention some players,

677
00:31:15,840 --> 00:31:17,400
Speaker 3: so this is a very obvious one. This is a

678
00:31:17,400 --> 00:31:19,960
Speaker 3: player that I've liked really the entire draft process. It's

679
00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:22,880
Speaker 3: at Ni Mitchell from Texas. So ad Ni Mitchell six

680
00:31:22,960 --> 00:31:25,880
Speaker 3: foot two, two hundred and five pounds, fifty five catches

681
00:31:25,920 --> 00:31:28,640
Speaker 3: for eight hundred and forty five yards, eleven touchdowns last

682
00:31:28,720 --> 00:31:32,440
Speaker 3: year at Texas, just one drop in his last twenty games,

683
00:31:32,520 --> 00:31:34,880
Speaker 3: so he sure handed, good speed, ran a four to

684
00:31:34,920 --> 00:31:37,320
Speaker 3: three four forty. And this is one of my favorite

685
00:31:37,360 --> 00:31:40,880
Speaker 3: stats on him. He had an eighty one percent touchdown

686
00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:43,840
Speaker 3: or first down rate in twenty twenty three, so eighty

687
00:31:43,920 --> 00:31:46,720
Speaker 3: one percent of his catches went for either a first

688
00:31:46,720 --> 00:31:49,120
Speaker 3: down or a touchdown. That was the best rate of

689
00:31:49,120 --> 00:31:52,560
Speaker 3: any receiver in this class. And he's interesting too because

690
00:31:52,600 --> 00:31:55,120
Speaker 3: he was at Georgia before going to Texas, so he

691
00:31:55,160 --> 00:31:57,440
Speaker 3: was a back to back national champion at Georgia. He

692
00:31:57,480 --> 00:32:00,000
Speaker 3: actually caught the go ahead touchdown in the two two

693
00:32:00,000 --> 00:32:04,719
Speaker 3: twenty one national championship game. And then transferred to Texas

694
00:32:04,720 --> 00:32:07,160
Speaker 3: his past year and was again just really productive and

695
00:32:07,200 --> 00:32:09,280
Speaker 3: really good and playing in the College Football Playoff again.

696
00:32:09,680 --> 00:32:13,080
Speaker 3: Fourteen touchdowns in his last eighteen starts. Ad Ni Mitchell

697
00:32:13,120 --> 00:32:15,200
Speaker 3: is an awesome player. A lot of weird stuff out

698
00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:17,440
Speaker 3: there over the last two weeks on ad Ni Mitchell.

699
00:32:17,760 --> 00:32:20,760
Speaker 3: This is how the draft works, where there's so much

700
00:32:20,800 --> 00:32:23,560
Speaker 3: time beforehand that you can have a player that you

701
00:32:23,560 --> 00:32:26,040
Speaker 3: feel really good about and then like you know, like

702
00:32:26,080 --> 00:32:28,840
Speaker 3: the Bo Callahan stuff from a draft day where it's like, well,

703
00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:31,160
Speaker 3: no one went to his birthday party. It's weird stuff,

704
00:32:31,160 --> 00:32:34,120
Speaker 3: you know, It's like whatever, both Adni Mitchell is a

705
00:32:34,120 --> 00:32:35,720
Speaker 3: player who might be there at thirty two, and I

706
00:32:35,720 --> 00:32:37,160
Speaker 3: would be thrilled that he was a chief.

707
00:32:37,320 --> 00:32:39,280
Speaker 1: Oh wife loves Draft dead. I don't know why, but

708
00:32:39,360 --> 00:32:42,280
Speaker 1: she does. Okay, you know where I'm going with this one.

709
00:32:42,400 --> 00:32:43,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's.

710
00:32:42,960 --> 00:32:45,560
Speaker 1: Xavierly get a South Carolina. First of all, he's from

711
00:32:45,600 --> 00:32:48,440
Speaker 1: a small town in South Carolina, forty five hundred people

712
00:32:48,920 --> 00:32:52,720
Speaker 1: up in northeast South Carolina, so already near and dear

713
00:32:52,760 --> 00:32:53,280
Speaker 1: to my heart.

714
00:32:53,640 --> 00:32:55,800
Speaker 2: But this is Deebo Samuel of this draft. You watch

715
00:32:55,880 --> 00:32:56,520
Speaker 2: video of him.

716
00:32:56,520 --> 00:32:59,280
Speaker 1: What I like about him is he runs really good

717
00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:01,880
Speaker 1: routes at all three levels. This is a yards after

718
00:33:01,960 --> 00:33:05,200
Speaker 1: catch guy. This is a guy that four three nine,

719
00:33:05,560 --> 00:33:08,400
Speaker 1: So it's not like he's precluded from running a nine

720
00:33:08,480 --> 00:33:11,000
Speaker 1: router going past you. But most of his work, He's

721
00:33:11,040 --> 00:33:13,360
Speaker 1: done much like Deebo Samuel So think red Zone.

722
00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:15,440
Speaker 2: Threat, think jet sweeps.

723
00:33:16,360 --> 00:33:19,200
Speaker 1: But here's where I really am intrigued by him is

724
00:33:19,240 --> 00:33:22,040
Speaker 1: the fact that this guy, if you get Xavier Lagett,

725
00:33:22,040 --> 00:33:23,520
Speaker 1: don't fall in love with them, Mitch, don't fall in

726
00:33:23,560 --> 00:33:23,880
Speaker 1: love with them.

727
00:33:23,880 --> 00:33:24,720
Speaker 2: Don't fall in love with them.

728
00:33:24,840 --> 00:33:28,479
Speaker 3: We always do this though he takes pressure off Travis Kelcey.

729
00:33:28,760 --> 00:33:30,400
Speaker 1: We think you have to get another tight end to

730
00:33:30,400 --> 00:33:34,080
Speaker 1: take Travis pressure off. Travis Kelcey, No, you get the

731
00:33:34,160 --> 00:33:35,840
Speaker 1: kind of right kind of We saw this last year

732
00:33:35,880 --> 00:33:37,240
Speaker 1: with Rashi Rice a bit, but.

733
00:33:37,200 --> 00:33:38,360
Speaker 2: You get Xavier Lgette.

734
00:33:38,520 --> 00:33:42,400
Speaker 1: Immediate pressure is taken off with Hollywood Brown and with

735
00:33:42,600 --> 00:33:46,000
Speaker 1: Xavier Lgette of taking pressure off Travis Kelcey. Now, I'm

736
00:33:46,040 --> 00:33:49,520
Speaker 1: disappointed in you because I thought I thought I knew the.

737
00:33:49,440 --> 00:33:51,960
Speaker 2: Guy you would pick. Okay, I think I was got

738
00:33:51,960 --> 00:33:55,640
Speaker 2: to take Jamary Thrash of Louisville. Okay, you know why why.

739
00:33:55,600 --> 00:33:58,480
Speaker 1: He was at Georgia State prior to being at Louisville,

740
00:33:58,560 --> 00:34:01,040
Speaker 1: and that was your fictition team. You won a national

741
00:34:01,120 --> 00:34:04,560
Speaker 1: championship playing the College Football fourteen game, and you won

742
00:34:04,600 --> 00:34:06,480
Speaker 1: the national title with Georgia State, and I thought you

743
00:34:06,480 --> 00:34:07,160
Speaker 1: had a somewhere.

744
00:34:07,320 --> 00:34:09,560
Speaker 2: Jimori Thrash was on your fictitious team.

745
00:34:09,719 --> 00:34:12,120
Speaker 3: We haven't had a good incideb bel A fourteen reference

746
00:34:12,120 --> 00:34:14,560
Speaker 3: in a while. Mitch and I. If you've been watching

747
00:34:14,560 --> 00:34:16,840
Speaker 3: the show long enough, you know that what I'm about

748
00:34:16,840 --> 00:34:19,840
Speaker 3: to say. Mitch and I are religious players of Incidebla

749
00:34:19,920 --> 00:34:22,520
Speaker 3: Football fourteen on our old Xbox three sixties. You know

750
00:34:22,560 --> 00:34:23,000
Speaker 3: who that is?

751
00:34:23,040 --> 00:34:23,279
Speaker 2: For you?

752
00:34:23,480 --> 00:34:26,160
Speaker 3: That I always see him and I think of you Againstance, Well,

753
00:34:26,239 --> 00:34:27,440
Speaker 3: I think of River Craycraft.

754
00:34:28,719 --> 00:34:30,400
Speaker 2: He was in the minus twenty eight Windshield.

755
00:34:30,480 --> 00:34:35,000
Speaker 3: Yeah he was because Mitch had a dynasty with Washington State, right, Yeah,

756
00:34:35,000 --> 00:34:36,960
Speaker 3: we won the Pac twelve. Yeah, and Mitchell even have

757
00:34:37,120 --> 00:34:39,560
Speaker 3: like all the players' names like imported and everything. And

758
00:34:39,640 --> 00:34:42,160
Speaker 3: River Craycraft was your guy. So whenever I see him,

759
00:34:42,200 --> 00:34:44,000
Speaker 3: I think of you, and I think of all the

760
00:34:44,080 --> 00:34:46,399
Speaker 3: national championships he wanted Washington State.

761
00:34:46,440 --> 00:34:48,279
Speaker 1: He had a fifteen year old catch against this in

762
00:34:48,320 --> 00:34:50,799
Speaker 1: the minus twenty eight Windshield game. What's the first thing

763
00:34:50,800 --> 00:34:52,560
Speaker 1: I thought, I've did sit on the air, but I

764
00:34:52,560 --> 00:34:53,560
Speaker 1: thought that's my guy.

765
00:34:53,640 --> 00:34:55,000
Speaker 2: Man. We got all the way to the Rose Bowl

766
00:34:55,040 --> 00:34:56,840
Speaker 2: with that guy. Anyway.

767
00:34:57,160 --> 00:34:59,000
Speaker 1: Pretty cool. I'll take the next one. Let's go to

768
00:34:59,080 --> 00:35:02,080
Speaker 1: corner because let's talk globally here about corner. Yeah, that

769
00:35:02,160 --> 00:35:06,080
Speaker 1: could be the spot because corners. We talked about this

770
00:35:06,200 --> 00:35:09,600
Speaker 1: run and push and offensive tackles and wide receivers and quarterbacks.

771
00:35:10,120 --> 00:35:11,640
Speaker 2: Ooh, corners in there.

772
00:35:11,760 --> 00:35:13,719
Speaker 1: Now keep in mind, let's go back to our checklist.

773
00:35:14,120 --> 00:35:16,640
Speaker 1: You need a SPAGS type corner. Yeah, and it's not

774
00:35:16,719 --> 00:35:19,520
Speaker 1: just Hey, Lagarius Sneed was traded to the Titans need

775
00:35:19,560 --> 00:35:23,200
Speaker 1: a corner, But there are guys that looked like in

776
00:35:23,239 --> 00:35:24,080
Speaker 1: that comp.

777
00:35:23,800 --> 00:35:27,279
Speaker 2: Mode of this group. Now we can go.

778
00:35:27,880 --> 00:35:30,520
Speaker 1: You know, the kid from Toledo comes to mind that

779
00:35:30,640 --> 00:35:34,200
Speaker 1: comes in here. Ennis Rakestraw of Missouri is a guy

780
00:35:34,239 --> 00:35:37,720
Speaker 1: that will we'll mix it up here. So uh, anyway,

781
00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:40,000
Speaker 1: corner could be there at thirty two and that could

782
00:35:40,000 --> 00:35:41,400
Speaker 1: be a Day one starter at corner.

783
00:35:41,480 --> 00:35:44,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, it could be. I would mention Nate Wiggins. Nate

784
00:35:44,160 --> 00:35:46,719
Speaker 3: Wiggins is a Class I like a lot. Yeah, he

785
00:35:46,840 --> 00:35:50,040
Speaker 3: ran a four to eight forty, only Xavier Worthy was

786
00:35:50,040 --> 00:35:53,399
Speaker 3: faster at the combine. So right on the surface, think

787
00:35:53,400 --> 00:35:57,080
Speaker 3: about how ste Spy Mellow likes using his corners. So

788
00:35:57,360 --> 00:36:00,960
Speaker 3: Lagerius Sneed began his career in the slot and was

789
00:36:01,040 --> 00:36:03,520
Speaker 3: just a menace in the slot. As a blitzer, he

790
00:36:04,200 --> 00:36:07,040
Speaker 3: led the NFL from the corner position in pressures for

791
00:36:07,080 --> 00:36:09,760
Speaker 3: a couple of years. Well, he then gets moved outside,

792
00:36:09,800 --> 00:36:11,960
Speaker 3: Trip McDuffie goes in that spot. Guess who led the

793
00:36:12,080 --> 00:36:15,600
Speaker 3: NFL and pressures among corners last year, Trip McDuffie. So

794
00:36:15,920 --> 00:36:19,360
Speaker 3: if you move Trip McDuffie outside, you put Nate Wiggins

795
00:36:19,360 --> 00:36:21,880
Speaker 3: in the slot. He has four two eight speed. Can

796
00:36:21,920 --> 00:36:24,160
Speaker 3: you imagine the havoc he could wreak from that spot.

797
00:36:24,280 --> 00:36:28,200
Speaker 3: So the speed alone is interesting. He was also productive

798
00:36:28,200 --> 00:36:30,800
Speaker 3: at Clemson, though beyond just like being a player who's fast.

799
00:36:31,120 --> 00:36:33,440
Speaker 3: He had twenty five passes defensed over his last twenty

800
00:36:33,440 --> 00:36:36,480
Speaker 3: three games. He allowed just a forty four percent completion

801
00:36:36,520 --> 00:36:38,919
Speaker 3: percentage when targeted last year, and when he did allow

802
00:36:38,960 --> 00:36:42,280
Speaker 3: a catch, rarely allowed yards after the catch. He allowed

803
00:36:42,320 --> 00:36:45,080
Speaker 3: just one catch of twenty or more yards last season,

804
00:36:45,200 --> 00:36:48,080
Speaker 3: and he was flagged just once for past interference in

805
00:36:48,080 --> 00:36:50,759
Speaker 3: twenty twenty three. So this is a player that has

806
00:36:50,800 --> 00:36:53,920
Speaker 3: those physical tools. He has that speed that you can't teach,

807
00:36:54,120 --> 00:36:56,279
Speaker 3: but also just a lot of production. Now, the only

808
00:36:56,280 --> 00:36:58,120
Speaker 3: thing with him is he's only one hundred and seventy

809
00:36:58,120 --> 00:37:02,239
Speaker 3: three pounds, so kind of a light frame. But otherwise

810
00:37:02,280 --> 00:37:03,359
Speaker 3: he has stuff you can't teach.

811
00:37:03,600 --> 00:37:04,320
Speaker 2: And he's tough.

812
00:37:04,680 --> 00:37:06,239
Speaker 1: You know, he'll play man to man even though he's

813
00:37:06,280 --> 00:37:09,000
Speaker 1: slight frame, because there looks like there's core strength with him.

814
00:37:09,000 --> 00:37:10,800
Speaker 1: I'm gonna throw another one in here, because this is

815
00:37:10,920 --> 00:37:13,080
Speaker 1: just it isn't about Remember we just lectured you and

816
00:37:13,120 --> 00:37:14,480
Speaker 1: give you a sermon on the third day.

817
00:37:14,680 --> 00:37:16,520
Speaker 2: Let me give you another one. And this is out of.

818
00:37:16,520 --> 00:37:20,320
Speaker 1: Respect for your household, because they gave Ennis Rakestraw right tough.

819
00:37:20,640 --> 00:37:23,960
Speaker 1: You know, hardeners play the slot, make tackles the other one.

820
00:37:24,040 --> 00:37:26,160
Speaker 1: This could be like in the seventh round, maybe the

821
00:37:26,200 --> 00:37:28,880
Speaker 1: sixth round, and it's Miles Harden of South Dakota.

822
00:37:28,960 --> 00:37:31,480
Speaker 3: Oh man, go yoats, go yoats.

823
00:37:31,520 --> 00:37:33,720
Speaker 2: Your wife's to South Dakota, kyak, you're a tiger.

824
00:37:33,800 --> 00:37:36,799
Speaker 1: They played each other this year and Harden was out there,

825
00:37:37,080 --> 00:37:39,840
Speaker 1: you know against Luther Burden, I scramp and in fighting away.

826
00:37:40,480 --> 00:37:44,800
Speaker 1: Miles Harden is from when you look at Miami Gardens, Florida.

827
00:37:44,920 --> 00:37:47,520
Speaker 1: But he had in eleven he had done get this right,

828
00:37:47,719 --> 00:37:51,400
Speaker 1: forced eleven turnovers in twenty nine games, five eleven one

829
00:37:51,560 --> 00:37:52,120
Speaker 1: ninety five.

830
00:37:52,200 --> 00:37:53,080
Speaker 2: Tough as nails.

831
00:37:53,320 --> 00:37:55,279
Speaker 1: You could see him showing up in a sixth or

832
00:37:55,280 --> 00:37:57,560
Speaker 1: seventh round with the Chiefs or some other team. I'm

833
00:37:57,600 --> 00:37:59,359
Speaker 1: gonna go with him. Plus he went to the same

834
00:37:59,440 --> 00:38:02,240
Speaker 1: high school Gino Smith and Johnny Depp.

835
00:38:02,640 --> 00:38:09,040
Speaker 2: Wow, Okay, I'm just saying, man, Jack Sparrow done.

836
00:38:09,120 --> 00:38:12,280
Speaker 1: Overlook, don't overlook my man miles hardened from the yachts

837
00:38:12,320 --> 00:38:13,040
Speaker 1: of South Dakota.

838
00:38:13,239 --> 00:38:15,799
Speaker 3: I imagine a scenario or you and I are in

839
00:38:15,800 --> 00:38:18,240
Speaker 3: the conference room upstairs, it's like our war room, watching

840
00:38:18,320 --> 00:38:21,160
Speaker 3: the draft and we take a kid from South Dakota

841
00:38:21,200 --> 00:38:23,719
Speaker 3: and I freak out. I text Ellie, Ellie, we got

842
00:38:23,760 --> 00:38:28,200
Speaker 3: a coyote, and she'll be like, okay, she's binging on.

843
00:38:28,680 --> 00:38:28,879
Speaker 2: Yeah.

844
00:38:29,080 --> 00:38:30,759
Speaker 3: She'll be like, I turned the draft off hours ago,

845
00:38:31,080 --> 00:38:32,880
Speaker 3: but I'll be so excited we got a coyote. And

846
00:38:32,920 --> 00:38:35,160
Speaker 3: she'll be like, don't be weird because this happened with

847
00:38:35,239 --> 00:38:37,719
Speaker 3: Jack Cochran, because Jack Cochran is a coyote. And I

848
00:38:37,719 --> 00:38:39,160
Speaker 3: would tell her. I was like, hey, I told Jack

849
00:38:39,160 --> 00:38:41,000
Speaker 3: about you know how you went to South Dakota and stuff,

850
00:38:41,000 --> 00:38:43,800
Speaker 3: and she's like, stop embarrassing me, Like leave him alone.

851
00:38:44,000 --> 00:38:45,960
Speaker 2: My wife will be watching Draft day for like the

852
00:38:46,000 --> 00:38:48,880
Speaker 2: seventh consecutive time like what, yeah, Oh, I'll like to

853
00:38:48,960 --> 00:38:50,440
Speaker 2: have you the last one. We'll close it out this

854
00:38:50,520 --> 00:38:51,640
Speaker 2: way in a wild card.

855
00:38:51,680 --> 00:38:53,720
Speaker 3: Take any spot, any spot, yeah, okay?

856
00:38:54,000 --> 00:38:56,120
Speaker 2: Or two just real quick too, and I'll give you two.

857
00:38:56,160 --> 00:38:59,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, let me think about this, okay, So hmm, I'll.

858
00:38:59,560 --> 00:38:59,920
Speaker 2: Give you two.

859
00:39:00,400 --> 00:39:02,640
Speaker 1: Let me give you I got a couple and one

860
00:39:02,640 --> 00:39:05,200
Speaker 1: of the these. You know you actually featured him. You've

861
00:39:05,200 --> 00:39:07,040
Speaker 1: done an awesome job here again, everybody set up for

862
00:39:07,040 --> 00:39:07,400
Speaker 1: the draft.

863
00:39:07,600 --> 00:39:08,520
Speaker 2: Thanks you.

864
00:39:08,520 --> 00:39:13,680
Speaker 1: Look Isaiah Davis is South Dakota State, our rival Jeff Blue. Yeah,

865
00:39:13,760 --> 00:39:19,000
Speaker 1: he's a jack rabbit national champion FCS Austin Woodard who

866
00:39:19,640 --> 00:39:21,920
Speaker 1: with us in that war room, our own little war

867
00:39:22,040 --> 00:39:25,080
Speaker 1: room which is upstairs from the real one. But Isaiah

868
00:39:25,160 --> 00:39:28,680
Speaker 1: Davis at a Joplin, Missouri was incredible. Thirty four hundred

869
00:39:28,640 --> 00:39:33,160
Speaker 1: dollar purpose yards and in seven hundred and twenty nine

870
00:39:33,200 --> 00:39:37,200
Speaker 1: touches three fumbles. He had one hundred plus yards in

871
00:39:37,239 --> 00:39:40,600
Speaker 1: twelve to sixteen playoff games. Remember, these guys were playing

872
00:39:40,640 --> 00:39:42,799
Speaker 1: in the playoffs as much as we were, and so

873
00:39:44,520 --> 00:39:47,680
Speaker 1: what people are backing off for six they don't get.

874
00:39:47,800 --> 00:39:50,800
Speaker 1: But this is a guy that looks like Pacheco Wish

875
00:39:51,680 --> 00:39:54,240
Speaker 1: when you look at him in the way he runs

876
00:39:54,239 --> 00:39:56,880
Speaker 1: because he runs with his hair on fire. But Joplin, Missouri,

877
00:39:57,200 --> 00:39:58,840
Speaker 1: shout out, you got one here. The other one I

878
00:39:58,880 --> 00:40:02,080
Speaker 1: would throw in there is Ben Senative case state. Oh yeah,

879
00:40:02,080 --> 00:40:05,000
Speaker 1: you know I love him. But Waterloo Columbus High School

880
00:40:05,040 --> 00:40:09,440
Speaker 1: in Iowa, this is a baby Kelsey. He runs the

881
00:40:09,600 --> 00:40:13,640
Speaker 1: entire route tray. He can run one through nine. If

882
00:40:13,680 --> 00:40:16,239
Speaker 1: you look at what he's done, four catches of forty

883
00:40:16,320 --> 00:40:18,360
Speaker 1: yards or more. He was only one of four FBS

884
00:40:18,400 --> 00:40:20,879
Speaker 1: tight ends to do that last year and made big

885
00:40:20,920 --> 00:40:22,759
Speaker 1: catches in the biggest games, huge in the run to

886
00:40:22,880 --> 00:40:25,200
Speaker 1: go to the Big twelve championship hit the year before last.

887
00:40:25,239 --> 00:40:27,319
Speaker 1: He's just twenty one years old. One of the things

888
00:40:27,320 --> 00:40:29,520
Speaker 1: to look at too, and this is where the scouting

889
00:40:29,560 --> 00:40:33,160
Speaker 1: departments look at it because of COVID it's been weird

890
00:40:33,200 --> 00:40:34,719
Speaker 1: in the college ranks.

891
00:40:35,200 --> 00:40:36,880
Speaker 2: Is how old are these guys?

892
00:40:37,120 --> 00:40:39,799
Speaker 1: Because we get all ranges here, partner, we got him

893
00:40:39,800 --> 00:40:43,640
Speaker 1: from twenty one to twenty seven, and so sometimes like

894
00:40:43,920 --> 00:40:45,799
Speaker 1: it's not major League Baseball, are you going, ooh, twenty

895
00:40:45,880 --> 00:40:48,759
Speaker 1: seven years old? I can't take him, But there is

896
00:40:48,800 --> 00:40:51,600
Speaker 1: like how many years will you have him? Ben Sinnet's

897
00:40:51,680 --> 00:40:54,520
Speaker 1: just getting started. And when you see him, watch some

898
00:40:54,600 --> 00:40:55,640
Speaker 1: video of him, you're gonna go.

899
00:40:55,680 --> 00:40:57,879
Speaker 2: Ooh, the klnd of looks like Kelsey. He also has

900
00:40:57,920 --> 00:40:58,239
Speaker 2: to block.

901
00:40:58,280 --> 00:41:00,400
Speaker 1: He's not afraid of blocking, but he can run the

902
00:41:00,480 --> 00:41:03,960
Speaker 1: entire route tree. So could be a possible tight end

903
00:41:03,960 --> 00:41:05,560
Speaker 1: maybe third round, maybe fourth throw.

904
00:41:06,160 --> 00:41:09,160
Speaker 3: The game against Iowa State in the snow where he

905
00:41:09,200 --> 00:41:10,719
Speaker 3: had a huge game is what I think of when

906
00:41:10,719 --> 00:41:13,560
Speaker 3: I think of Ben Sennett, really really good player, and

907
00:41:13,600 --> 00:41:16,919
Speaker 3: in particular, he caught a touchdown pass on a tight

908
00:41:17,000 --> 00:41:19,360
Speaker 3: end screen where he broke like four tackles and all

909
00:41:19,400 --> 00:41:23,040
Speaker 3: I could think of was that looks really familiar. So yeah,

910
00:41:23,040 --> 00:41:24,560
Speaker 3: I mean I'd be thrilled with Ben Senate. I think

911
00:41:24,560 --> 00:41:25,160
Speaker 3: that's a great one.

912
00:41:25,200 --> 00:41:27,440
Speaker 1: They run a lot of the same stuff. Yeah, Like

913
00:41:27,480 --> 00:41:30,120
Speaker 1: their offenses pretty much like ours in a lot of ways,

914
00:41:30,239 --> 00:41:34,320
Speaker 1: using the tight end and influencing and so yeah.

915
00:41:34,440 --> 00:41:36,680
Speaker 3: So I'll give you two more. We'll go from one

916
00:41:36,719 --> 00:41:39,480
Speaker 3: local guy to another local guy about defensive tackle Darius

917
00:41:39,560 --> 00:41:40,560
Speaker 3: Robinson from Mazoo.

918
00:41:41,600 --> 00:41:43,720
Speaker 2: He he were fixed bags.

919
00:41:43,880 --> 00:41:46,080
Speaker 3: He's perfect for SPACs because he's two hundred and eighty

920
00:41:46,160 --> 00:41:49,680
Speaker 3: five pounds, but played primarily on the edge last year.

921
00:41:50,080 --> 00:41:53,000
Speaker 3: But before that, before last season, he was almost exclusively

922
00:41:53,040 --> 00:41:56,880
Speaker 3: an interior defensive lineman at Maszoo. So think about the

923
00:41:56,960 --> 00:42:00,680
Speaker 3: versatility that Steve Spagnelo loves with players like Sean Wharton

924
00:42:00,719 --> 00:42:03,600
Speaker 3: and Mike Dana, even Chris Jones, Charleston Men. Mike Dana

925
00:42:03,640 --> 00:42:05,719
Speaker 3: to me, is the comp for him really similar, a

926
00:42:05,719 --> 00:42:06,440
Speaker 3: little bit bigger.

927
00:42:06,600 --> 00:42:09,919
Speaker 2: But when I watch him, Ike go ooh, this looks

928
00:42:09,960 --> 00:42:10,600
Speaker 2: like Mike Dana.

929
00:42:10,960 --> 00:42:13,799
Speaker 3: And Robinson is big. I mean he's six foot five,

930
00:42:13,880 --> 00:42:16,040
Speaker 3: two hundred and eighty five pounds, but does kind of

931
00:42:16,040 --> 00:42:18,080
Speaker 3: play like Dana in a lot of ways. And he

932
00:42:18,160 --> 00:42:20,719
Speaker 3: had that opportunity to bounce out from defensive tackle to

933
00:42:20,880 --> 00:42:23,640
Speaker 3: edge rusher last year and he was just tremendous at it.

934
00:42:23,680 --> 00:42:25,520
Speaker 3: He had fourteen tackles for loss and eight and a

935
00:42:25,520 --> 00:42:28,600
Speaker 3: half sacks. So Darius Robinson I can't quite figure out

936
00:42:28,600 --> 00:42:30,440
Speaker 3: where he's going to go in the draft. You look

937
00:42:30,440 --> 00:42:32,880
Speaker 3: at some people they have him going like in the twenties,

938
00:42:33,120 --> 00:42:35,040
Speaker 3: and then others have him maybe as a second round pick.

939
00:42:35,120 --> 00:42:38,400
Speaker 3: But Darius Robinson is a player that I like a lot.

940
00:42:38,640 --> 00:42:40,839
Speaker 3: Another one that I've been kind of interested in all

941
00:42:40,840 --> 00:42:44,160
Speaker 3: of draft season is devontees Walker, wide receiver from North

942
00:42:44,160 --> 00:42:47,120
Speaker 3: Carolina now He's interesting because I think he kind of

943
00:42:47,120 --> 00:42:50,520
Speaker 3: gets lost in this loaded receiver class where there are

944
00:42:50,520 --> 00:42:53,440
Speaker 3: so many good receivers this year that nobody's really talking

945
00:42:53,440 --> 00:42:56,320
Speaker 3: about devontees Walker. The reason being because he did not

946
00:42:56,440 --> 00:42:58,640
Speaker 3: have a great Senior Bowl. He had some drops at

947
00:42:58,640 --> 00:43:01,680
Speaker 3: the Senior Bowl. But before that, I mean, he's just

948
00:43:01,719 --> 00:43:03,840
Speaker 3: really impressive and had a good year for North Carolina.

949
00:43:03,920 --> 00:43:06,680
Speaker 3: He was a Kent State transfer played one year at

950
00:43:06,719 --> 00:43:08,920
Speaker 3: North Carolina. In that one year for the tar Heels,

951
00:43:08,960 --> 00:43:11,359
Speaker 3: he had forty one catches for seven hundred yards and

952
00:43:11,440 --> 00:43:15,520
Speaker 3: seven touchdowns, averaged seventeen yards per catch. I mentioned earlier

953
00:43:15,560 --> 00:43:18,200
Speaker 3: that Nate Wiggins allowed only one catch of twenty or

954
00:43:18,200 --> 00:43:21,560
Speaker 3: more yards all season. It was two Devonte's Walker and

955
00:43:21,640 --> 00:43:24,319
Speaker 3: her runs a four to three six. His average depth

956
00:43:24,360 --> 00:43:27,080
Speaker 3: of target was eighteen point two yards. You hear all

957
00:43:27,120 --> 00:43:29,719
Speaker 3: those things. What that is is a player who can

958
00:43:29,760 --> 00:43:32,919
Speaker 3: stretch the field, but he's not just a burner who

959
00:43:33,360 --> 00:43:36,279
Speaker 3: needs to be wide open. He can go up over

960
00:43:36,360 --> 00:43:39,920
Speaker 3: dbs because he has great length. Many times, if you

961
00:43:39,960 --> 00:43:43,879
Speaker 3: watch his tape, he can make contested catches. So he's

962
00:43:43,920 --> 00:43:46,759
Speaker 3: probably not a polished, finished product at receiver, and that's

963
00:43:46,760 --> 00:43:48,879
Speaker 3: why he's not being talked about as a first round pick,

964
00:43:49,120 --> 00:43:53,040
Speaker 3: and he had that rough Senior Bowl. But overall, this

965
00:43:53,160 --> 00:43:56,200
Speaker 3: is a guy who has excellent size and speed, made

966
00:43:56,239 --> 00:43:58,280
Speaker 3: a lot of big plays last year at North Carolina,

967
00:43:58,600 --> 00:44:00,760
Speaker 3: And if you're trying to add an ex glosive element

968
00:44:00,880 --> 00:44:03,959
Speaker 3: to the Chiefs passing game from a rookie this year,

969
00:44:04,400 --> 00:44:07,000
Speaker 3: Devonte Walker could make some sense. So I'm intrigued by him,

970
00:44:07,040 --> 00:44:08,359
Speaker 3: and he could be available on Day two.

971
00:44:08,520 --> 00:44:09,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, no question.

972
00:44:09,640 --> 00:44:12,720
Speaker 1: I see a sort of a Mike Evans, Mike Williams

973
00:44:12,760 --> 00:44:14,880
Speaker 1: and him high pointing at the third level. He is

974
00:44:14,960 --> 00:44:17,600
Speaker 1: really good at the third level in making big plays,

975
00:44:17,640 --> 00:44:20,200
Speaker 1: third level, first level, second level, Day one, Day two,

976
00:44:20,280 --> 00:44:24,080
Speaker 1: Day three, undrafted free agents, rookie minie camp. We hopefully

977
00:44:24,120 --> 00:44:27,239
Speaker 1: have laid this out for you because as we go

978
00:44:27,320 --> 00:44:30,400
Speaker 1: into these next several days, really the next week, starting

979
00:44:30,400 --> 00:44:34,320
Speaker 1: with Thursday night in the first round, Hey, he's Matt McMullen.

980
00:44:34,600 --> 00:44:36,640
Speaker 1: I'm Mitchelda's voice to the Chiefs.

981
00:44:36,520 --> 00:45:00,800
Speaker 2: And just no, it all counts. Ne