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Speaker 1: is Prime Cuts the best of the Colin Coward Podcast.

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Speaker 1: This week, Hall of Famer Chris Webber explained why he's

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Speaker 1: not very high on Anthony Davis and shared what he

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Speaker 1: thinks about Patrick Beverley's antics, legendary NFL exact Bill Polian

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Speaker 1: shared his insight and upcoming draft thoughts, and why he

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Speaker 1: doesn't like Aaron Rodgers not showing up to minicamp. My

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Speaker 1: buddy John Middlecoff great stuff in the Jimmy g Trey

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Speaker 1: Lance situation, the DK Metcalf trade buzz. But first my

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Speaker 1: top takes of the week. So Baker Mayfield did an

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Speaker 1: interview on a podcast and he just sort of let

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Speaker 1: it rip, let it fly. At one point he said

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Speaker 1: on the field of'm a dickhead that's never changed. He

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Speaker 1: admits he's got a Napoleon syndrome. He says he felt

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Speaker 1: disrespected by the Browns, and he says he liked to

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Speaker 1: go into somebody's office and boo them to see how

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Speaker 1: they crumble. He admitted his critics also got to him.

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Speaker 1: You know, Marshall McLuhan is a famous scholar of communications.

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Speaker 1: He famously said the medium is the message, meaning not

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Speaker 1: so much what you say, but how you say it

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Speaker 1: and where you choose to say it. Baker was lake

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Speaker 1: house with a bunch of buddies, host is there, camo

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Speaker 1: hat drinking a beer. Very casual, It's very let it rip.

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Speaker 1: This is where I think Baker Mayfield's personality has never

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Speaker 1: been right to be a quarterback. My wife's an artist.

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Speaker 1: I'm more the compartmentalizer, the observer. We have different personalities.

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Speaker 1: We make it work, but I will never be able

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Speaker 1: to paint like her, and she won't be able to

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Speaker 1: do certain things I can do. I think the greatest

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Speaker 1: quarterbacks have talent, but their personalities match the position. Tom

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Speaker 1: Brady obviously is a great example, so is Peyton Manning.

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Speaker 1: Very calculated, obsessed with preparation, from the podium to a podcast,

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Speaker 1: to preparation to the sidelines to pre snap. You'll see

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Speaker 1: very brief emotional outbursts a fist pump by Brady. Peyton

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Speaker 1: Manning will occasionally bark at his center, but they're very

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Speaker 1: much under control. Baker's personality is much more comedian, surfer artist,

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Speaker 1: highly emotional letter rip. That, of course is a big

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Speaker 1: advantage in surfing or a comedian. You lean into your talent,

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Speaker 1: don't overthink it, and just let it go. But the

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Speaker 1: Russell Wilson's, the Peyton Mannings, the Tom Brady's, they understand

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Speaker 1: being a franchise quarterback, everything has to be planned. It's

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Speaker 1: not a letter rip position. Jay Cutler, Cam Newton, Baker,

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Speaker 1: Mayfield sort of letter rip personalities. Don't think before they speak,

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Speaker 1: often way too casual. It's one of my knocks on

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Speaker 1: Drew Locke, the now Seahawk quarterback. I don't need to

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Speaker 1: know Baker's got a Napoleon problem. Right now, he's interviewing

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Speaker 1: for a job with every other GM in the league.

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Speaker 1: Do you think they want a quarterback with a short

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Speaker 1: guy complex. Do you think they want a quarterback who

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Speaker 1: says he was bothered by the criticism and how to

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Speaker 1: get off social A quarterback who said I'd like to

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Speaker 1: go into fans cubicles and boo them. He's showing weakness.

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Speaker 1: He's showing an inability to control his emotions, that he

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Speaker 1: doesn't have control of them. They control him again. There's

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Speaker 1: a reason certain people flourish in certain jobs. I talk

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Speaker 1: to myself all day. I was meant to talk. It's

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Speaker 1: what I do. I could never have been an artist.

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Speaker 1: There are certain positions I just don't have the right

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Speaker 1: emotional state for. I think Baker's talented, but he almost

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Speaker 1: has a linebacker's personality, a wide receiver's personality, highly emotional,

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Speaker 1: There are a lot of great jobs for that quarterback.

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Speaker 1: In my opinion, it's not perfect. So there was a

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Speaker 1: baseball situation yesterday. They got people really worked up. Clayton

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Speaker 1: Kershaw perfect game after eighty pitches, he was pulled, and

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Speaker 1: this is something that's important. First of all, he's six

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Speaker 1: months off surgery. He's an older pitcher. He's very valuable

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Speaker 1: to their World Series chances. It was under forty degrees

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Speaker 1: under forty degrees and this is an older picture. Now.

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Speaker 1: Managing that arm in his health really important. We know

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Speaker 1: this in all sports. I totally understood why the Dodgers

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Speaker 1: not just there for your personal enjoyment. Colin, There's only

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Speaker 1: been twenty three perfect games and Clayton Kershaw only has

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Speaker 1: an award. It's cute. Kershaw's a Hall of Famer first ballot.

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Speaker 1: His legacy is set, got one World Series. Would like

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Speaker 1: to win an award, throw a no hit or perfect

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Speaker 1: game is wonderful. But Clayton Kershaw totally understood the situation.

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Speaker 1: Sports is not just there for your enjoyment. Big picks.

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Speaker 1: If Clayton Kershaw's twenty four and plays for the Mariners

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Speaker 1: the Royals or the Pirates, and he's a kid not

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Speaker 1: coming off surgery, and it's game two. You go for it.

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Speaker 1: But the bigger picture for the Dodgers is we're not

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Speaker 1: risking an injury. I'll give you an example, Kevin Durant.

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Speaker 1: Remember years ago he got hurt. He came back in

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Speaker 1: played and he got hurt. Big picture should have pulled

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Speaker 1: him out earlier. You can't just go with an older,

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Speaker 1: somewhat brittle athlete. You can't just go on current momentum.

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Speaker 1: You have to go into games or series with pitch

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Speaker 1: Kershaw agreed to it, understood it. They have bigger goals

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Speaker 1: here than perfect games or no hitters. It's thirty eight degrees.

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Speaker 1: He's just off surgery and he's an older pitcher. One

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Speaker 1: Ben Simmons didn't work in Philadelphia. Part of the Brooklyn

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Speaker 1: And I said this about two weeks ago. If Ben

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Speaker 1: Kyrie Irving and the crew, I think Brooklyn can get

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Speaker 1: They'll beat Miami. I think they'd beat a Boston, easily

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Speaker 1: The guy's got multiple gifts above the shoulders. Who knows

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Speaker 1: I know it's a weird place to start, but but

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Speaker 1: Thanks for having me on. I think first, I think

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Speaker 1: The Lamber Story one of my favorite players ever growing

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425
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Speaker 1: I didn't take into consideration he wasn't as refined. Well,

426
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Speaker 1: he was going to get better coaching in the pros.

427
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Speaker 1: So when I watched Malik Willis drives the ball, big trunky,

428
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Speaker 1: thick athlete, sounds like a good kid. He may not

429
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Speaker 1: have the most refined tape, but there are moments on

430
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Speaker 1: it that are wow. How do you judge him the

431
00:26:55,240 --> 00:27:00,760
Speaker 1: more raw prospect? Well, first of all, six me tall,

432
00:27:00,840 --> 00:27:05,680
Speaker 1: and that that's worrisome short quarterbacks. You know, Doug Flute

433
00:27:05,880 --> 00:27:10,200
Speaker 1: and Drew Brees are the exceptions, not the rule, So

434
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Speaker 1: that that's that's difficult to begin with. M Secondly, the

435
00:27:15,920 --> 00:27:20,000
Speaker 1: arm strength part of it is okay, you know it's good,

436
00:27:20,040 --> 00:27:22,320
Speaker 1: it's good to have a strong arm, but that that's

437
00:27:22,359 --> 00:27:25,480
Speaker 1: not what wins in the league. It's processing and the

438
00:27:25,520 --> 00:27:30,920
Speaker 1: ability to be accurate with the ball um. And now

439
00:27:30,960 --> 00:27:37,080
Speaker 1: he comes in as a guy who essentially does makes

440
00:27:37,160 --> 00:27:43,160
Speaker 1: his living with his legs. He does spectacular things. My

441
00:27:43,280 --> 00:27:48,240
Speaker 1: question is can he do winning things? And those are

442
00:27:48,359 --> 00:27:54,399
Speaker 1: two different categories complete, two different completely categories. So I

443
00:27:54,520 --> 00:27:58,000
Speaker 1: have questions there. I have questions there. Now, his coach,

444
00:27:58,080 --> 00:28:03,280
Speaker 1: he frees, to my knowledge, hasn't had any NFL experience,

445
00:28:03,640 --> 00:28:07,199
Speaker 1: made a statement that I saw which says he doesn't

446
00:28:07,240 --> 00:28:10,520
Speaker 1: know what he doesn't know, meaning the young man doesn't

447
00:28:10,560 --> 00:28:14,800
Speaker 1: yet know what he doesn't know. And that's that's true

448
00:28:14,800 --> 00:28:18,280
Speaker 1: of every rookie quarterback. But the other thing you have

449
00:28:18,320 --> 00:28:20,920
Speaker 1: to keep in mind is that he's making a big

450
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Speaker 1: jump up and level of competition liberty is below the

451
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Speaker 1: level of the Mid America. This isn't Ben Roethlisberger coming

452
00:28:28,760 --> 00:28:31,920
Speaker 1: in here. You know who's who dominated the Mid America.

453
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Speaker 1: So there's that. So to me, there are some questions here,

454
00:28:42,280 --> 00:28:46,360
Speaker 1: and I think but for the rookie salary cap and

455
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Speaker 1: the fifty year option, I don't think I'd consider him

456
00:28:50,880 --> 00:28:55,920
Speaker 1: as a first rounder. But because of the rookie cap

457
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Speaker 1: and because of the fifth year option. He is prompt

458
00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:03,280
Speaker 1: probably worth taking a chance on because if you hit

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Speaker 1: on him, you got him for four years at a

460
00:29:05,400 --> 00:29:09,320
Speaker 1: low salary and five years at a reasonable salary. And

461
00:29:09,440 --> 00:29:13,880
Speaker 1: if you don't hit, if he doesn't do well, then

462
00:29:14,280 --> 00:29:16,800
Speaker 1: all you've lost is a first round draft choice. And

463
00:29:16,920 --> 00:29:20,520
Speaker 1: that's that's that's not insignificant. But it's not the end

464
00:29:20,560 --> 00:29:25,800
Speaker 1: of the world. Quarterbacks mean more than ever. They're more

465
00:29:25,960 --> 00:29:29,200
Speaker 1: compensated than ever, they have more power and leverage than ever,

466
00:29:29,240 --> 00:29:32,600
Speaker 1: and now many are demanding mobility. It's a new time.

467
00:29:32,840 --> 00:29:36,640
Speaker 1: It's almost an international soccer star feel, NBA superstar feel.

468
00:29:36,800 --> 00:29:40,600
Speaker 1: Not quite there yet. But with the Aaron Rodgers situation,

469
00:29:40,640 --> 00:29:42,560
Speaker 1: I mean, he called out the franchise. He's trying to

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Speaker 1: humiliate the franchise. He's not going to show up to

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Speaker 1: one of his camps, even though they may have young

472
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Speaker 1: receivers they dis drafted. You're not going to show up.

473
00:29:50,520 --> 00:29:55,000
Speaker 1: He'll do talk shows, game shows, and I think to myself, boy,

474
00:29:55,040 --> 00:29:57,320
Speaker 1: I almost wonder if Green Bay would be better with

475
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Speaker 1: an owner who could get on the phone and bark,

476
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Speaker 1: get him a little bit and say, hey, pal, you

477
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Speaker 1: know but they don't have that in green Bay. The

478
00:30:07,400 --> 00:30:09,280
Speaker 1: other day, Mark Murphy said he doesn't have a three

479
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Speaker 1: year contract. He's got three one year contracts, And I thought,

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Speaker 1: I don't know if he's going to be there for

481
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Speaker 1: three years. I mean, where is your line in the

482
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Speaker 1: sand on not having leverage with a star, being publicly

483
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Speaker 1: humiliated by a star, having him not being accommodating. I mean,

484
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Speaker 1: some of this stuff I look at and think, Man,

485
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Speaker 1: I know he's talented, Bill, but this is a lot.

486
00:30:36,960 --> 00:30:39,320
Speaker 1: I mean, you go out and take shots at the organization.

487
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Speaker 1: You can do it with no owner, but it's a

488
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Speaker 1: lot to deal with. I know, like Deebo, he's talented,

489
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Speaker 1: but how would you have handled this well? Mark is

490
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Speaker 1: a Mark Murphy is a not only a very smart guy,

491
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Speaker 1: but a former player, and so he understands the chemistry

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Speaker 1: of the locker him. He understands what the what the

493
00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:07,360
Speaker 1: trigger man does for you. He understands the dynamic that

494
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Speaker 1: that guy brings to the team. And you know, you

495
00:31:12,520 --> 00:31:15,520
Speaker 1: stretch that rubber van as far as you can stretch

496
00:31:15,560 --> 00:31:20,960
Speaker 1: it in order to win. Now, in Aaron's case, what's

497
00:31:21,120 --> 00:31:24,880
Speaker 1: what's what was shocking to me was he had to

498
00:31:24,920 --> 00:31:29,320
Speaker 1: know that Davante was leaving. He did he had to

499
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Speaker 1: know it, and yet he still took the money knowing

500
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Speaker 1: that he was going to be a rift of his

501
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Speaker 1: number one received. So that tells the comments sense tells

502
00:31:41,480 --> 00:31:44,400
Speaker 1: you it had to be about the money. That's what

503
00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:47,200
Speaker 1: it was about. Not getting me a team, not let

504
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Speaker 1: me put put my stamp on the offense, not let

505
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Speaker 1: me bring Tommy Clements is as good as as good

506
00:31:52,440 --> 00:31:57,840
Speaker 1: as Tommy is, but let me get my contract one here.

507
00:31:58,440 --> 00:32:01,960
Speaker 1: So there's nothing wrong with that. Every player should do that,

508
00:32:02,840 --> 00:32:07,760
Speaker 1: but to do it in a disruptive way is really

509
00:32:07,800 --> 00:32:12,560
Speaker 1: stretching that rubber band and now not showing up at

510
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Speaker 1: mini camp after you've gotten all this money in the

511
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Speaker 1: offseason program, after you've gotten all this money that one

512
00:32:20,960 --> 00:32:25,960
Speaker 1: you know, even Mark probably has it, has difficulty with that,

513
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Speaker 1: as mature as he is and as experienced as he is.

514
00:32:28,840 --> 00:32:31,600
Speaker 1: It's one of the people I respect most of its business.

515
00:32:32,880 --> 00:32:35,280
Speaker 1: It's got to stick in his crow, and they wouldn't mind.

516
00:32:35,440 --> 00:32:38,080
Speaker 1: I mean, owner of no owner. I think I'd sit

517
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Speaker 1: down and say, listen, we need to get some things

518
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Speaker 1: straight here. Yeah, all right, let's bring him on. My buddy.

519
00:32:47,520 --> 00:32:50,960
Speaker 1: John Middlecoff, former NFL scout, also hosts a three and

520
00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:53,840
Speaker 1: out in the gol Golf pod on the volume. So

521
00:32:54,320 --> 00:32:56,880
Speaker 1: I want to go because you're so connected to the Niners,

522
00:32:56,880 --> 00:32:59,440
Speaker 1: to the Deebo Samuel deal. I said this the other day,

523
00:33:01,160 --> 00:33:03,320
Speaker 1: having been in the media for twenty five years. One

524
00:33:03,360 --> 00:33:05,560
Speaker 1: of the annoying things about the younger media because I

525
00:33:05,560 --> 00:33:08,720
Speaker 1: think most people work very hard, and I encourage and

526
00:33:08,760 --> 00:33:10,440
Speaker 1: I root for him, and I'm going to hire some

527
00:33:10,480 --> 00:33:13,720
Speaker 1: of them. But there's this sort of just pay everybody.

528
00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:17,360
Speaker 1: You know, pay Dak, pay Zeke. Well, now the Cowboys,

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Speaker 1: you see what happens when you pay a running back

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Speaker 1: two years early, the Cowboys are bailing water Dak. He's

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Speaker 1: a B B plus quarterback. You see what happens when

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Speaker 1: you pay guys like that. So the Deebo Samuel is, oh,

533
00:33:30,480 --> 00:33:32,080
Speaker 1: you got to pay him. And my takeaway is a

534
00:33:33,160 --> 00:33:38,880
Speaker 1: his style will not age well period. Secondly, Shanahan leans

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Speaker 1: into that style. Third Kittle is already sort of a

536
00:33:45,440 --> 00:33:49,800
Speaker 1: weathered player. So yeah, do I want Kittle and Debo

537
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Speaker 1: to be my two highest paid offensive guys? And I

538
00:33:52,520 --> 00:33:55,000
Speaker 1: said this, go look at the rams best players. They're

539
00:33:55,000 --> 00:34:00,000
Speaker 1: always available. Jalen Ramsey, Matt Stafford, Aaron Donald, Cooper Cup

540
00:34:00,040 --> 00:34:04,400
Speaker 1: Bobby Wagner Ah was available. Trent William's been hurt, Garoppolo

541
00:34:04,440 --> 00:34:07,160
Speaker 1: has been hurt, Debo has been hurt, Kittle's been hurt.

542
00:34:07,440 --> 00:34:09,600
Speaker 1: I don't think it's a slam dunk. I don't. I

543
00:34:09,640 --> 00:34:12,560
Speaker 1: would struggle to pay Deebo Samuel Well. I think on

544
00:34:12,640 --> 00:34:16,080
Speaker 1: the big picture there with the Rams and the Niners, philosophically,

545
00:34:16,080 --> 00:34:18,200
Speaker 1: they play a little differently, right. The Rams are more

546
00:34:18,239 --> 00:34:22,160
Speaker 1: spread it out, throw it around, Kyle Shanahan, which is

547
00:34:22,200 --> 00:34:24,640
Speaker 1: ironic because when you think young coaches in football, you

548
00:34:24,680 --> 00:34:27,080
Speaker 1: think throw it around the yard, score a bunch of points,

549
00:34:27,160 --> 00:34:31,360
Speaker 1: Lincoln Riley, Sean mcvagh. Kyle is much more like Jim Harbaugh,

550
00:34:31,840 --> 00:34:34,439
Speaker 1: wants to ugly the game and have a war zone. Yeah,

551
00:34:34,440 --> 00:34:37,000
Speaker 1: it's separated. The Niners. You know, there are two playoff

552
00:34:37,080 --> 00:34:39,160
Speaker 1: runs to it the last three years because they come

553
00:34:39,160 --> 00:34:41,399
Speaker 1: in like a heavyweight fighter. Mike Tyson and teams aren't

554
00:34:41,440 --> 00:34:44,920
Speaker 1: ready for it. But they lose guys when it's a

555
00:34:44,920 --> 00:34:48,600
Speaker 1: little off, you lose these de hardball, you know, Navarre Bowman,

556
00:34:48,880 --> 00:34:52,319
Speaker 1: you potty guys shattering ankles and legs, and yep, it's

557
00:34:52,360 --> 00:34:56,280
Speaker 1: happened a little bit. Kyle Shanahan's running backs drop like flies.

558
00:34:56,480 --> 00:34:59,240
Speaker 1: Yes his dads did too, because he will just hammer

559
00:34:59,239 --> 00:35:03,160
Speaker 1: the run till the houscombo. But I think what complicates

560
00:35:03,239 --> 00:35:07,640
Speaker 1: Debo is the guys that got paid. If you're just

561
00:35:07,680 --> 00:35:09,640
Speaker 1: sitting in Debo shoes, you go, I just carried the

562
00:35:09,640 --> 00:35:11,520
Speaker 1: franchise of the playoffs. And he's not totally wrong that

563
00:35:11,840 --> 00:35:13,959
Speaker 1: we all witnessed it. You don't need to be whether

564
00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:16,560
Speaker 1: you're young or old. We watched it happen. But all

565
00:35:16,560 --> 00:35:19,600
Speaker 1: the guys that got paid. Stefan Diggs has dominated from

566
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Speaker 1: multiple franchises. Tyree Hill and Davante Adams are gonna be

567
00:35:22,880 --> 00:35:25,279
Speaker 1: Hall of Famers on their resume. They've been doing it

568
00:35:25,280 --> 00:35:27,319
Speaker 1: now for a half decade. Deepo had a ten game

569
00:35:27,360 --> 00:35:30,520
Speaker 1: stretch in twenty twenty. Colin that was a weird year.

570
00:35:30,760 --> 00:35:33,600
Speaker 1: COVID they didn't have a sea showed up out of

571
00:35:33,640 --> 00:35:36,080
Speaker 1: shape too. Now they like him, he's a good guy,

572
00:35:36,160 --> 00:35:38,560
Speaker 1: but it's like that's on his resume. So it's like, well, Debo,

573
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Speaker 1: we love you. You're a team leader, your team captain,

574
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Speaker 1: but you know I can't give you seventy guarantee now.

575
00:35:45,120 --> 00:35:47,440
Speaker 1: And he's offended when you offer him fifty. But like,

576
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Speaker 1: based on your resume, you only have a one year

577
00:35:50,160 --> 00:35:53,359
Speaker 1: of being a dominant player and your best attribute you're

578
00:35:53,360 --> 00:35:57,200
Speaker 1: not catching one hundred balls. You're running back basically, right, Yeah,

579
00:35:57,239 --> 00:35:59,040
Speaker 1: what do we say with running backs? Can't give him

580
00:35:59,080 --> 00:36:02,200
Speaker 1: a second contract or a big contract. But this guy,

581
00:36:02,360 --> 00:36:05,640
Speaker 1: he's a you know, he's his personality. People love him.

582
00:36:05,640 --> 00:36:07,719
Speaker 1: He's such a great player. You can't get rid of him.

583
00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:10,480
Speaker 1: They're they're in a weird spot now. Is he going

584
00:36:10,520 --> 00:36:12,600
Speaker 1: to hold out? Is he going to do what these

585
00:36:12,600 --> 00:36:15,080
Speaker 1: players do now to hold in? Right? T J. Watt

586
00:36:15,120 --> 00:36:16,719
Speaker 1: did that last year where you show up to be

587
00:36:16,719 --> 00:36:19,000
Speaker 1: a good guy, but you don't. Because I if I

588
00:36:19,040 --> 00:36:21,359
Speaker 1: was Debo's agent, I wouldn't allow him to take another

589
00:36:21,440 --> 00:36:23,960
Speaker 1: live rep for the Niners, in practice or a game. Right,

590
00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:26,080
Speaker 1: there's just too much. The contracts now are too big.

591
00:36:26,080 --> 00:36:28,200
Speaker 1: Even if we signed a quote unquote team friendly deal,

592
00:36:28,640 --> 00:36:30,359
Speaker 1: we got to sign the deal before we do it,

593
00:36:30,400 --> 00:36:32,200
Speaker 1: which is a problem because the Niners are breaking in

594
00:36:32,200 --> 00:36:35,359
Speaker 1: this new quarterback. They're just in a weird spot with

595
00:36:35,400 --> 00:36:38,200
Speaker 1: this individual player who's a huge part of everything they do.

596
00:36:38,360 --> 00:36:40,520
Speaker 1: You know, it is interesting on the Trey Lance front.

597
00:36:40,880 --> 00:36:43,520
Speaker 1: I don't like his delivery. I like him. I like

598
00:36:43,640 --> 00:36:47,400
Speaker 1: his athleticism. He does have a power arm. It doesn't

599
00:36:47,440 --> 00:36:50,640
Speaker 1: look good at all. And I contend they would have

600
00:36:50,760 --> 00:36:54,000
Speaker 1: moved off Garoppolo already if they absolutely knew he was

601
00:36:54,040 --> 00:36:56,880
Speaker 1: the guy. So that that leads me to the obvious question.

602
00:36:56,880 --> 00:37:01,160
Speaker 1: You're tied in here. They have reservations about Trey, right, yeah,

603
00:37:01,160 --> 00:37:03,120
Speaker 1: I think these next two months, you know, when they're

604
00:37:03,120 --> 00:37:05,080
Speaker 1: on the field. Now, grant it's just shorts and T shirts,

605
00:37:05,120 --> 00:37:07,960
Speaker 1: but just his command of the offense, is running the offense.

606
00:37:08,000 --> 00:37:11,360
Speaker 1: I mean, Kyle, again, for a younger guy, is really

607
00:37:11,400 --> 00:37:14,840
Speaker 1: an old soul. He's much more like his dad, like Bill,

608
00:37:15,400 --> 00:37:18,440
Speaker 1: very old. He would easily play again with Jimmy Garoppolo

609
00:37:18,440 --> 00:37:20,520
Speaker 1: if he doesn't think Trey's ready. But Trey's gonna get

610
00:37:20,520 --> 00:37:22,800
Speaker 1: the shot because Jimmy, even though he's technically still on

611
00:37:22,840 --> 00:37:25,600
Speaker 1: the team, is injured. Camp throw it's all Trey. So

612
00:37:25,640 --> 00:37:27,719
Speaker 1: this offseason I would imagine Kyle is going to throw

613
00:37:27,760 --> 00:37:29,919
Speaker 1: the kitchen sink at him everything he learned last year

614
00:37:30,280 --> 00:37:32,920
Speaker 1: and just evaluate the two months of him running all

615
00:37:32,920 --> 00:37:35,520
Speaker 1: the drills with all the reps, and if he feels

616
00:37:35,520 --> 00:37:37,840
Speaker 1: good going into the summer. Now, granted, you know, football,

617
00:37:37,880 --> 00:37:40,520
Speaker 1: you're not in helmets and pads. The game's way different.

618
00:37:40,760 --> 00:37:43,080
Speaker 1: But I do think he'll either he'll feel better or

619
00:37:43,120 --> 00:37:45,560
Speaker 1: he'll have his reservations, and then Jimmy might stay. I

620
00:37:45,600 --> 00:37:48,640
Speaker 1: want to go to the NFL Draft because generally I'm

621
00:37:48,680 --> 00:37:51,480
Speaker 1: pretty walky on it. I love it. It's a weak draft.

622
00:37:51,680 --> 00:37:54,960
Speaker 1: It's it's a bunch of you know, it feels like

623
00:37:55,000 --> 00:37:57,520
Speaker 1: the first couple of rounds are a lot of second round,

624
00:37:57,640 --> 00:38:00,560
Speaker 1: late first round players. Even the guy as I like,

625
00:38:01,480 --> 00:38:05,239
Speaker 1: you know, I think Aiden Hutchison is it's gonna be

626
00:38:05,280 --> 00:38:07,399
Speaker 1: a really nice player. I don't think he's Chase Young.

627
00:38:07,440 --> 00:38:09,440
Speaker 1: I don't think he's a Bosa. I don't think he's

628
00:38:09,480 --> 00:38:13,200
Speaker 1: t J Watt. And here I was saying this to

629
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Speaker 1: a friend the other day. A lot of bad teams

630
00:38:17,280 --> 00:38:22,160
Speaker 1: and bad front offices have multiple first round picks. So

631
00:38:22,719 --> 00:38:25,120
Speaker 1: take me into the as a former NFL scout. So

632
00:38:25,160 --> 00:38:29,479
Speaker 1: the Packers have two firsts at the end of the round.

633
00:38:29,960 --> 00:38:32,920
Speaker 1: Late first, they have no number one or number two.

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Speaker 1: Receiver Randall Cobb is probably a four. Alan Lazard's of four.

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Speaker 1: Amari Rodgers, the slot kid from Clemson, is a fairly

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Speaker 1: weak three. He was like a return guy last year.

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Speaker 1: Metcalf solves a lot of issues. He's like Des Bryant.

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Speaker 1: He scores a lot. You don't have to love his routes.

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Speaker 1: He's a freak. There's nobody like him, you know. He's

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Speaker 1: a little like Javon Curse when he came in. It

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Speaker 1: just there was nothing else like him on the market,

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Speaker 1: kind of like when he was young. It just doesn't

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Speaker 1: look like any other receiver. That's right, and Dk in

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Speaker 1: Minnesota vikings weaknesses their corners. I don't think it's a

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Speaker 1: bear's strength or a lion strength. So he could really

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Speaker 1: eat up that conference, more so perhaps than even the

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Speaker 1: conference NFC West. Would you move picks to get Dk

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Speaker 1: Metcalf knowing you'd have to pay him a fortune in

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Speaker 1: a year? Yeah, I mean, I think the people I've

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Speaker 1: talked about or talked to in the league, once those

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Speaker 1: guys got once, like Tyreek got traded and Davante got traded,

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Speaker 1: would you do the same thing for Dk Metcalf? And

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Speaker 1: the question is, like the one thing with Davante right,

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Speaker 1: alite character and elite production. Tyreek, you know, for the

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Speaker 1: most part, has been when he plays like there is

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Speaker 1: no question about his competitiveness. Yeah, he's been I mean,

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Speaker 1: they've been the best team in the league for basically

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Speaker 1: four years running. He's been their second best player. So

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Speaker 1: you just you know, you've seen him at the biggest moments.

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Speaker 1: I think there are a question marks about DK the

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Speaker 1: diva just once you pay him twenty It was thought

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Speaker 1: to be twenty million a month ago. Now you know

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Speaker 1: that we're probably even higher. He's got twenty nine touchdowns

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Speaker 1: in three years. He's produced at a round. Yeah, he's

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Speaker 1: very Dez Bryant. Jason Garrett told me this one. He said,

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Speaker 1: you don't have to love his temperament or the fact

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Speaker 1: that he doesn't run every route. He scores touchdowns and

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Speaker 1: that's a lot, a lot, and that's meck. He gets

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Speaker 1: to the end zone a lot. Yeah, because you just

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Speaker 1: his speed is a lad. I just go back to

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Speaker 1: John Schneider, And isn't the point of being a GM,

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Speaker 1: Like ultimately the Russell divorce had to happen. Isn't the

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Speaker 1: point of being a GM drafting guys in the second

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Speaker 1: third round and landing guys like DK and then keeping

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Speaker 1: him in his prime, Like wouldn't you just want to

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Speaker 1: keep him till you figure out your quarterback situation. Ultimately,

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Speaker 1: whether Pete leaves in a year or whatever, and you

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Speaker 1: get John's got a pretty good chance probably of getting

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Speaker 1: another coach, you would say, and he knows him really well.

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Speaker 1: If he's willing to get off of him, wouldn't that

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Speaker 1: be a pretty big red flag Because for the most part,

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Speaker 1: Seattle always extended their core suite players. Now they they

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Speaker 1: broke up with him pretty poorly, as we've seen Bobby

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Speaker 1: Wagner sermon ends weird. But they always got second contracts

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Speaker 1: in DCS. Earned it right. Now, you know Drew Lock

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Speaker 1: if you want to give him a chance to succeed.

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Speaker 1: What the other thing with John Schneider is he's always

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Speaker 1: been out of it, and I agree with them, is

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Speaker 1: they never have thirty two players on their draft board

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Speaker 1: that are worthy of a first round pick. So I

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Speaker 1: historically when they were good, they always traded out in

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Speaker 1: the first round because it's like, well, I'm drafting twenty seventh,

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Speaker 1: but I'm going to take a guy that I don't

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Speaker 1: view as a first round or then I pay first

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Speaker 1: round money. So he always traded back or for players.

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Speaker 1: Now it didn't always work out, but I understood the logic.

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Speaker 1: So part of trading Russell this year, which made sense

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Speaker 1: for him probably is I get a sweet high pick.

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Speaker 1: So even if I do trade back a couple of

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Speaker 1: spots to acquire another second, I'm still picking at fourteen

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Speaker 1: or eighteen, or I want to stay at whatever they're

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Speaker 1: at nine right of ten. So he's to me, he's

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Speaker 1: got a lot of wiggle room to really improve his

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Speaker 1: team and still quote unquote be competitive. Now, I don't

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Speaker 1: think Drew Locke's any good. But do they end up

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Speaker 1: with Baker Mayfield, you know, which kind of feels like

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Speaker 1: that's the only place that Baker's gonna end up. And

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Speaker 1: then you know Baker's just solid, and they have some

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Speaker 1: talent around them, you know, maybe they could be somewhat competitive.

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