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Speaker 1: iHeart Radio. All Right, So, Vernon Mahabble is the founder

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Speaker 1: and director of the Palmistry Institute in Los Angeles. Has

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Speaker 1: been on my mind all week long. UM, I don't

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Speaker 1: know much about the Palmistry Institute. Is that a four

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Speaker 1: year institution? Vernon? Is that a do you have dorms

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Speaker 1: where people? Okay? Sounds good to me. But combining astrology

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Speaker 1: with palmistry to make predictions for the US, I gotta

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Speaker 1: find out how that. We're um. But he continues with

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Speaker 1: new research and we're glad to have him on again

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Speaker 1: tonight on Coast to Coast. So I jumped at this

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Speaker 1: chance when they said that you were available because I

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Speaker 1: actually it was about about two months ago I was

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Speaker 1: walking past a palm reader in Scottsdale. Um, I live

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Speaker 1: here in Arizona, and I was so tempted to go

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Speaker 1: in because I was I sort of liked the experience

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Speaker 1: of that, but I never, like, to me, I just

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Speaker 1: don't quite understand, like how it's like, how does it

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Speaker 1: even work? Like what is the how how can you

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Speaker 1: tell anything from the millions of wrinkles in my hands

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Speaker 1: that you got photos of earlier today? I mean, my

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Speaker 1: hands looked like the roof of a geodesic dome. I

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Speaker 1: don't even know, Like where do you start with that? Right? Well,

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Speaker 1: you know, uh, and thank you for your introduction, your

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Speaker 1: kind introduction. I really appreciate that. But the hand that

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Speaker 1: our two hands are actually an astrological art. They're not

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Speaker 1: non different from what an astrologer looks at. When when

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Speaker 1: an astrologer is looking at a pie chart, so to speak,

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Speaker 1: they're looking at the planets, they're looking at the houses,

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Speaker 1: they're looking at um, the different signs. UM. A qualified

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Speaker 1: and professional palmist is looking at the hands in exactly

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Speaker 1: the same way A palmistry reading is an astrological reading.

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Speaker 1: It's just that it's on our hands. Uh. And the

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Speaker 1: Western world is not really that conversant with this understanding,

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Speaker 1: um Ian. I've even found that most astrologers in the

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Speaker 1: Western world don't even know that palmistry is an astrological science.

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Speaker 1: I will tell you that, I'm still trying to get

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Speaker 1: my mind are on that? Like, so you say that

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Speaker 1: meaning my individual wrinkles are different than anybody else, right,

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Speaker 1: because that's what the FBI and you know, all the

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Speaker 1: and whatever, So how could they be linked to something

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Speaker 1: in the sky? Absolutely, um are we are actually eternal

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Speaker 1: spiritual souls uh. And the soul is situated, according to

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Speaker 1: the Vedic literatures, within the very intercore of our heart,

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Speaker 1: and it's actually the soul that is sending the messages

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Speaker 1: into our hand. Um. These wrinkles that you're talking about,

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Speaker 1: most people think are we're we're we're looking at the lines,

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Speaker 1: But the lines aren't really that important in palmistry. And

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Speaker 1: you brought up the fingerprints. The fingerprints are actually one

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Speaker 1: deal with our genetic idea patterns. They deal with our DNA,

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Speaker 1: they dare deal with UM the planetary aspects. UH. Just

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Speaker 1: below the the lines, UM are these things called the ramataglyphics,

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Speaker 1: the one to seven chuckers. But the the qualified palmise

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Speaker 1: And this is what I teach UM if if if,

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Speaker 1: And the problem here, Ian is that uh, most palmis

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Speaker 1: But the thing is that palmistry is an astra logical science,

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