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Speaker 1: Welcome into Lounge presented by DraftKings. I'm Ryan Mink here

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Speaker 1: with Garrett Downing following the press conference with owner Steve

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Speaker 1: Bashati and Ravens General manager Eric Acasta. That was a

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Speaker 1: very enlightening press conferences entertaining across the board. And I'll

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Speaker 1: tell you, I'll just start right here. The Ravens have

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Speaker 1: the best owner in the NFL, and it's not even close.

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Speaker 1: Steve Bashadi is so impressive. I mean how real he

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Speaker 1: was today, Genuine, insightful, bold, you know, he tells it

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Speaker 1: like it is and man, Ravens fans, thoughtful, smart, you know,

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Speaker 1: Ravens fans, we are lucky to have him as the

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Speaker 1: Ravens owner. The only the worst part of the press

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Speaker 1: comes is when he said he didn't want to own

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Speaker 1: the team in his eighties. That was the And I'll

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Speaker 1: tell you he was extremely genuine and real about what

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Speaker 1: went down with the firing of head coach John Harball

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Speaker 1: and what his thought process was in that decision, what

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Speaker 1: his expectations are for Lamar Jackson moving forward, and his

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Speaker 1: intentions for him with this organization, and a host of

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Speaker 1: other things which we will break down over the course

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Speaker 1: of this episode.

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Speaker 2: Well, First of all, I would say the press conference

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Speaker 2: was an hour long, and I really do encourage you

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Speaker 2: to go listen to it or watch it in its entirety.

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Speaker 2: We've got the whole thing posted for you on our app,

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Speaker 2: our website, our YouTube channel. You can also listen to

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Speaker 2: it on the Ravens Press Pass podcast feed. It's worth

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Speaker 2: your time. It's highly entertaining, engaging. You'll learn a lot

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Speaker 2: about this team, about this process, about the decisions that

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Speaker 2: the team made this offseason, namely the decision to part

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Speaker 2: ways with John Harbaugh. There's a lot of information that

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Speaker 2: was shared during this incredibly truthful. A lot of times

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Speaker 2: fans of teams will talk about press conferences and here

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Speaker 2: and things like coach speak and cliches.

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Speaker 3: There was none of that.

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Speaker 1: It was just it was doesn't dodge any questions.

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Speaker 2: Nothing was dodged, nothing was off limits, nothing was was hidden.

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Speaker 2: It was all very forthcoming, and I just thought it

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Speaker 2: gave a shep's great light into the Ravens process, what

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Speaker 2: they're looking for, why now on the decision to part

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Speaker 2: ways with John. All of those things were answered, and

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Speaker 2: we're going to get into all of it oh Orse

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Speaker 2: for this episode.

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Speaker 1: And by the way, during the press conference, Mike Tomlin

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Speaker 1: announced that he's stepping away from the Steelers. In the

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Speaker 1: middle of the press conference, says, if it couldn't get

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Speaker 1: juicier enough, Yeah, like just this is a a momentous

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Speaker 1: changing AFC North changing day. Like this is just a

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Speaker 1: huge day and a huge inflection point for this organization

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Speaker 1: as they look for their next head coach. And to

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Speaker 1: have the Ravens owners speak about it, you know, and

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Speaker 1: it's been years since he talked like it was just

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Speaker 1: a huge press conference, So yeah, I agree, go listen

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Speaker 1: to the whole thing, all right. So, Garrett, first and foremost,

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Speaker 1: obviously the topic at the top of the list here

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Speaker 1: was why Steve Bashatti fired John Harbaugh, and he gave

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Speaker 1: details about that, said that he talked to Eric Tacosta

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Speaker 1: three or four weeks ago about this, so this wasn't

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Speaker 1: a spur of the moment decision, you know, said that

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Speaker 1: clearly two factors were in play here among them, and

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Speaker 1: that was the Ravens underperforming their playoff seeding. You know,

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Speaker 1: they had gone from the number one seed in the

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Speaker 1: AFC Championship in twenty twenty three to then divisional playoffs

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Speaker 1: last year and out of the playoffs this year, so

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Speaker 1: kind of under performing in the playoffs relative to what

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Speaker 1: was expected of them, and then the fourth quarter blown

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Speaker 1: leads was a factor for Cebash in deciding this. But

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Speaker 1: I will say, you know, he referenced, like there's been

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Speaker 1: things in the back of my head for a long

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Speaker 1: time that kind of resurfaced when you're not having a

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Speaker 1: success that you kind of revisit, you know. And at

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Speaker 1: the same time, he made it very clear that this

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Speaker 1: is not all on John Harball. John Harball took the fall.

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Speaker 1: He was the guy that lost his job and you

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Speaker 1: know his staff obviously too, but that it's not all

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Speaker 1: John Harball's fault.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, no question about that. He also made it clear

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Speaker 2: that the relationship that he and John have is going

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Speaker 2: a long time and that will continue. Even when Steve

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Speaker 2: him in a moment there that it was Steve was

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Speaker 2: the emotional one and John the one saying, you don't

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Speaker 2: know me anything. I'm gonna be fine. It's all gonna

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Speaker 2: be okay. We had eighteen great years together and so

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Speaker 2: there's there's still a lot of love between the two

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Speaker 1: Two special human beings, right there, No doubt the phone conversation.

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Speaker 2: The other thing too, And you talk about the why

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Speaker 2: and underperforming expectations and blown leads and lack of playoff success,

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Speaker 2: all of those were major factors in the decision.

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Speaker 3: The other part two.

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Speaker 2: And Steve Ashotti closed out his press conference making this

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Speaker 2: point kind of with a monologue, and he made the

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Speaker 2: point that one hundred percent trusted my instincts here. My

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Speaker 2: instincts told me it was time and if not now, when,

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Speaker 2: because if he didn't make the decision now, it felt

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Speaker 2: like we could be back here a year from now

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Speaker 2: with a similar outcome.

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Speaker 1: Well, and John Harbaal hires. He basically made it clear

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Speaker 1: so like he hires a whole new staff and then okay,

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Speaker 1: if they don't have success, how much is the staff

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Speaker 1: versus John? Like, right, if not now, when?

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Speaker 2: And it felt like we had run our course. And

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Speaker 2: the other thing too, is that there was no question

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Speaker 2: that John Harbaugh had come on under a lot of

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Speaker 2: scrutiny this year, social media, in the stadium, radio press,

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Speaker 2: across the board, he would come under a lot of scrutiny,

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Speaker 2: and that the scrutiny for this team and the failures

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Speaker 2: on Harball, fair or unfair. That's where a lot of

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Speaker 2: the frustration was directed and to a certain extent, and

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Speaker 2: it ticks Steve off. It's frustrating to see that his friend,

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Speaker 2: it's his friend, and knowing the relationship that they have,

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Speaker 2: he didn't like seeing that. And to some degree, as

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Speaker 2: from that. And now John's able to go and coach

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Speaker 2: elsewhere and where the Ravens were able to reset with

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Speaker 1: And Harbes gets to go somewhere. As you know, he's

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Speaker 1: the most desired coach on the market, like Tom's on

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Speaker 1: there now too. Yeah, both highly desired, I'm sure. But

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Speaker 1: John gets a fresh start and he's like everybody loves him. Yeah, right,

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Speaker 1: So he goes from a place where he's taking stones.

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Speaker 1: but that made him more at peace with the decision. Yes,

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Speaker 1: was that like John's going to be just fine. You know,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that all that that makes sense. And

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Speaker 2: it was kind of funny too, he talked about in

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Speaker 2: a conversation. They actually had a conversation. He fired him

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Speaker 2: last Tuesday. Then on Thursday they talked again over the phone.

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Speaker 2: Kind of emotions aside a little bit. You have a

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Speaker 2: little bit of forty eight hours to decompress, And they

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Speaker 2: talking like friends and about the future, and John's talking

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Speaker 3: They're almost giving each other advice.

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Speaker 1: Well, when Steve made it clearly, he was like, I'm

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Speaker 1: willing to pay for you to take a year off

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Speaker 1: and travel, Like I'll pay your salary, a very high

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Speaker 1: you and Ingrid if you want to go do that, man,

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Speaker 1: if you want to go jump back into coach, do it,

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Speaker 1: But like, I will pay for you to take.

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Speaker 3: He signed a contract essential last year.

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Speaker 2: So if John doesn't coach, then then the Ravens are

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Speaker 2: on the hook for that exactly. If he does coach

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Speaker 3: Right, So She's like, you can just take this money

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Speaker 1: Exactly. But doesne look like John's gonna do that? You know.

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Speaker 1: Another point that Steve made was that I thought he

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Speaker 1: It sounded like eric Acosta wanted John to stay, as

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Speaker 1: reports have indicated, and Sashi Brown was part of that

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Speaker 1: his call, and his gut told him that. And a

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Speaker 1: He was steeper shy, was very clear how much longer

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Speaker 2: Wait if if Tyler Loop makes that field goal, is

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Speaker 2: John still the head coach.

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Speaker 1: Said for one more week? So the decision was made.

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Speaker 1: It was not playoffs or bust. And I'm sure Tyler

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Speaker 1: And so yeah, Steve Ashatti, it was a hard decision,

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Speaker 2: And the Ravens made that decision. And now John Harbaugh's

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Speaker 2: on the market, and he's reportedly got interviews scheduled this week,

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Speaker 2: and the Ravens are in the midst of an exhaustive

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Speaker 2: coaching search, which is going to be led by Eric Tacosta,

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Speaker 2: Sashi Brown and Ozzie Newsom. They're really the ones leading

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Speaker 2: the charge here, and the Ravens are conducting number of interviews.

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Speaker 2: We've talked about this in depth. But with the Ravens

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Speaker 2: having now seven interviews, and Eric Costa said by the

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Speaker 2: But that it's DaCosta, Sashi Brown and Ozzie Knew some

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Speaker 1: And obviously Steve Ashatti will have his opinions and if

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Speaker 1: Stevebashatti will make his opinion. Note right, he's not afraid

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Speaker 1: Well. It's also very clear that the Ravens want to

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Speaker 2: you're on the market, you didn't have enough success as

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Speaker 2: a head coach. But Steve made the point four years ago.

435
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Speaker 2: These guys were the top candidates on the market and

436
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Speaker 2: they got an opportunity. Didn't have enough success there could

437
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Speaker 2: be for a variety of different reasons. Could be the

438
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Speaker 2: quarterback you have, could be organization, It could be the players.

439
00:22:02,040 --> 00:22:03,959
Speaker 2: There's a lot of factors that play there. And so

440
00:22:04,040 --> 00:22:07,119
Speaker 2: that's you don't necessarily disqualify a guy because they didn't

441
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Speaker 2: have success as a head coach at a certain stop.

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Speaker 1: Right, the Ravens are a much better situation than those

443
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Speaker 1: guys generally speaking, or coming from They're going to be

444
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Speaker 1: set up for more success here, and so just because

445
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Speaker 1: they had a losing record somewhere else doesn't Seeveshi doesn't

446
00:22:20,640 --> 00:22:22,440
Speaker 1: believe that means they're gonna have a losing record here,

447
00:22:22,680 --> 00:22:25,879
Speaker 1: nor should he. He's totally right. Cliff Kingsbury is another

448
00:22:25,960 --> 00:22:28,960
Speaker 1: on that list. Matt Nagy another, you know, former head coach.

449
00:22:29,000 --> 00:22:32,880
Speaker 1: The Ravens are interviewing a number of those. I mean,

450
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Speaker 1: Jim Schwartz reportedly scheduled for an interview. He was a

451
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Speaker 1: head coach with the Detroit Lions. And so there's a

452
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Speaker 1: lot of coordinator or guys looking for their second shot

453
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Speaker 1: at being a head coach. It's worked out. I mean,

454
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Speaker 1: Andy Reid's a perfect example we keep pointing to, but

455
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Speaker 1: there's there's many, many more examples. Sure, those guys having

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Speaker 1: success in their second stop.

457
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Speaker 2: Pete Carroll was that way, it was the second stop

458
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Speaker 2: in Seattle, had a lot of success. Jim Harbaugh is

459
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Speaker 2: that way has had a lot of success, and going

460
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Speaker 2: back to the the Chargers after his run at the

461
00:23:02,320 --> 00:23:05,280
Speaker 2: forty nine Ers, Like there's Bill Belichick, he worked out

462
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Speaker 2: pretty well as second time head coach in New England. Like,

463
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Speaker 2: there's a lot of different examples of coaches who have

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Speaker 2: been retreads and then gone on and had a lot

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Speaker 2: of success at the next stop.

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Speaker 1: YEP. Also very clear from their comments today that you

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Speaker 1: know this next head coach. They're not looking to go

468
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Speaker 1: through this process every three to four years. Steve Bushatti said,

469
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Speaker 1: that's basically hell on Earth. Yeah, and that this coach

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Speaker 1: will be given some allowance some patients, you know, reasonable

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Speaker 1: amount of patients, I believe was the term. And they're

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Speaker 1: gonna be They're gonna give him the tools to succeed,

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Speaker 1: and he's gonna have a runway. They don't want to

474
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Speaker 1: be in the situation the Cleveland Browns have been in,

475
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Speaker 1: when you have constant turnover. That's not how Steve Bushatti operates.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he was asked about that specifically. He made the point, well,

477
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Speaker 2: John won a Super Bowl in his fifth year, so

478
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Speaker 2: maybe I'll give this guy six to win. And the

479
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Speaker 2: other part of it, too, is like we're going to

480
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Speaker 2: find somebody that we feel really good about. And so

481
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Speaker 2: if we collectively, if me and Eric and Sashi and

482
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Speaker 2: Ozzie we all sit here and we say we feel

483
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Speaker 2: great about this candidate and there's buying around this candidate,

484
00:24:17,760 --> 00:24:20,840
Speaker 2: then A you expect to have success and and B

485
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Speaker 2: then you just have belief that this guy is going

486
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Speaker 2: to get us to where we want to go. And

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Speaker 2: so like it's the expectation of success and the expectation

488
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Speaker 2: that you collectively are going to have a good process

489
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Speaker 2: to pick the right guy.

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Speaker 1: And if you believe in your process, you don't abandon

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Speaker 1: it after a year or two, right, Like you want

492
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Speaker 1: to be back in the playoffs. He wants to be

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Speaker 1: back in the playoffs next season. You don't. Steve Ashati

494
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Speaker 1: isn't in the business saying ah, right, it's his first year. Yeah,

495
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Speaker 1: you know, if we get four wins, it'll be a success. No,

496
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Speaker 1: we want to be back in the playoffs. But like

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Speaker 1: you're grading on a curve, you're not going to just

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Speaker 1: change after one year if you don't have success immediately.

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Speaker 2: But with all that said, the Ravens still believe that

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Speaker 2: this team is ready to win right now. Like with

501
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Speaker 2: the roster that is in place here, with the quarterback

502
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Speaker 2: that's in place here, with the front office that's in place.

503
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Speaker 2: The Ravens feel like the reason they're getting so many

504
00:25:14,160 --> 00:25:17,040
Speaker 2: inbound calls about this job opportunity is because it's such

505
00:25:17,040 --> 00:25:20,680
Speaker 2: an attractive offer and opportunity and they're ready to win now,

506
00:25:20,760 --> 00:25:22,920
Speaker 2: and so they want this next coach to come in

507
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Speaker 2: and be ready to take the reins and win right now.

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Speaker 1: Going back to what they're looking for in that head coach.

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Speaker 1: We did forget to mention offensive or defensive steepashety says,

510
00:25:31,720 --> 00:25:34,320
Speaker 1: I don't care. Yeah, it does not have a type

511
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Speaker 1: with that with that in mind.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, not at all.

513
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Speaker 2: And basically it's a if it's an offensive minded guy,

514
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Speaker 2: then you start having questions is he going to be

515
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Speaker 2: the play caller which you've seen around the league. And

516
00:25:46,640 --> 00:25:49,679
Speaker 2: then even from there, then then you start to have

517
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Speaker 2: the coordinator conversation that you're looking at three people that

518
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Speaker 2: you're really hiring. You're hiring the head coach, the offensive coordinator,

519
00:25:55,240 --> 00:25:58,080
Speaker 2: of the defensive quardator. It's kind of a triumvirate there

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Speaker 2: that you're bringing in. And the Ravens put a lot

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Speaker 2: of value on that entire They're talking with these candidates about, Okay,

522
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Speaker 2: who's your coordinator going to be, who's your head who's

523
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Speaker 2: your offense coordinator, who's your defense coordinat? What does that

524
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Speaker 2: group look like? That is part of the interview process,

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Speaker 2: even at this early stage.

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Speaker 1: Yep, absolutely well. One thing is clear that Mike Tomlin,

527
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Speaker 1: that was a funny moment of the press conference. That

528
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Speaker 1: was a very Mike Preston from the Baltimore Sun long

529
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Speaker 1: time reporter asked Steve A. Shatti straight up delivered the

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Speaker 1: news to Steve Ashatti that Mike Tomlin had stepped away

531
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Speaker 1: decided to step away from the Pittsburgh Steelers and asked

532
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Speaker 1: him straight up would he be a candidate here? And

533
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Speaker 1: Steve Ashatti's first reaction was holy shit? And uh, he said,

534
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Speaker 1: wouldn't that be something? I mean, he it's just like

535
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Speaker 1: what the rest of us would say is like that

536
00:26:49,520 --> 00:26:52,480
Speaker 1: would be wild, that would He's crazy.

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Speaker 2: He also said, only if only if the Steelers interview John,

538
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Speaker 2: if he's got to go there, Yeah, they switch.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I've thought about that.

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Speaker 1: That would be nuts. The AFC North.

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Speaker 2: Holy but you could just have a whole a shuffler

542
00:27:05,480 --> 00:27:08,000
Speaker 2: because the Fanski's in the mix too. Seriously Browns, the

543
00:27:08,040 --> 00:27:09,760
Speaker 2: Steelers and the Ravens musical chairs in.

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Speaker 1: The AFC North.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Zach Taylor of the Bengals is the only AFC North

547
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Speaker 1: coach who kept his job after this season, and it

548
00:27:17,800 --> 00:27:21,480
Speaker 1: is wild too long. Two head coaches with the longest

549
00:27:21,520 --> 00:27:25,000
Speaker 1: tenure Mike Tomlin in nineteen years, John Harbot eighteen years.

550
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Speaker 1: Mike lasted one week longer than him in the end

551
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Speaker 1: and Golly, the NFL man is a soap opera, and

552
00:27:35,920 --> 00:27:39,879
Speaker 1: so it from Sibershotti's comments, it does not sound like

553
00:27:39,920 --> 00:27:43,720
Speaker 1: Mike Tomlin's gonna end up in Baltimore. Is I don't

554
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Speaker 1: think he necessarily inherently ruled that out. Didn't sound likely

555
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Speaker 1: from his reaction. But that was an interesting moment in

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Speaker 1: this press commence, for sure.

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Speaker 3: No doubt about it. Breaking the news to the owner.

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Speaker 1: I'm sure it costan unless he got it on his

559
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Speaker 1: watch or something.

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Speaker 2: Breaking the news in that press conference was an interesting

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Speaker 2: moment and also kind of a moment of levity just

562
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Speaker 2: given the nature of the conversation. So let's take one

563
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Speaker 2: more break. When we come back, we'll share some of

564
00:28:16,640 --> 00:28:19,040
Speaker 2: our final points about this press conference and also where

565
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Speaker 2: the Ravens go from here. Now, one of the questions

566
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Speaker 2: in today's press conference is something that's come up a

567
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Speaker 2: few different times over the years, and that is basically,

568
00:28:27,320 --> 00:28:29,040
Speaker 2: how much longer does Steve a shot he want to

569
00:28:29,080 --> 00:28:31,359
Speaker 2: own the team. He has said on multiple occasions he

570
00:28:31,400 --> 00:28:33,600
Speaker 2: does not intend for this to be something that he

571
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Speaker 2: passes down from generation to generation. He's going to be

572
00:28:37,280 --> 00:28:39,320
Speaker 2: a one generation owner. He bought the team he will

573
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Speaker 2: sell the team, and he reiterated that again today, making

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Speaker 2: the point that he's seen other ownership groups around the

575
00:28:47,120 --> 00:28:50,280
Speaker 2: league and around sports rip families apart, based on the

576
00:28:50,320 --> 00:28:52,400
Speaker 2: battles and trying to hold onto the team, and he

577
00:28:52,440 --> 00:28:54,640
Speaker 2: does not want that for his family, and so he

578
00:28:55,240 --> 00:28:57,800
Speaker 2: will sell the team. How the question is when, and

579
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Speaker 2: he he didn't give an exact date, of course, but

580
00:29:00,960 --> 00:29:03,320
Speaker 2: he said, I don't want to be really owning the

581
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Speaker 2: team in my eighties. He's sixty five right now, and

582
00:29:07,320 --> 00:29:09,920
Speaker 2: joke that he doesn't really want to be in his

583
00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:12,880
Speaker 2: eighties owning the team. And so around ten years from

584
00:29:12,880 --> 00:29:15,520
Speaker 2: now is about the time that he'll probably move on.

585
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Speaker 2: Ten fifteen, Yeah, And so he said he wants to

586
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Speaker 2: get a couple more He wants to get a couple

587
00:29:21,720 --> 00:29:25,840
Speaker 2: more Super Bowls, is the cope, and then sell it

588
00:29:26,120 --> 00:29:28,720
Speaker 2: and sell off into the sunset.

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Speaker 3: And when that is exactly.

590
00:29:32,280 --> 00:29:35,360
Speaker 2: Is obviously not you know, not known at this point,

591
00:29:35,640 --> 00:29:39,040
Speaker 2: but it's about a ten year plan for him to

592
00:29:39,120 --> 00:29:40,920
Speaker 2: hold onto the Ravens.

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00:29:41,160 --> 00:29:46,120
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah. His his quote on his innership is that

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Speaker 1: he wants to win a couple of Super Bowls and

595
00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:53,080
Speaker 1: get the hell out and so it'll probably bail sometime

596
00:29:53,080 --> 00:29:55,920
Speaker 1: in the next ten years or so, yeah and so.

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00:29:56,320 --> 00:29:57,880
Speaker 2: And he joked like, if we won a Super Bowl

598
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Speaker 2: in that in that last year, then he'll probably be

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Speaker 2: one more.

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Speaker 3: Yeah so.

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Speaker 1: And conversely, if we have back to back bad years,

602
00:30:04,600 --> 00:30:10,320
Speaker 1: then he'll probably peace out before ten years. Yeah and so. Yeah.

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00:30:10,480 --> 00:30:12,680
Speaker 1: I mean, like I said at the top, I think

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00:30:12,720 --> 00:30:15,720
Speaker 1: we're blessed to have Steve b Ashatti's owner, us those

605
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Speaker 1: who work for him. And I'm not just saying that

606
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Speaker 1: because he signs my checks. I'm saying that because anybody

607
00:30:21,400 --> 00:30:23,640
Speaker 1: who watched that press conference and any Ravens fan should

608
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Speaker 1: be able to see that plan his day, agree, and

609
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Speaker 1: so I hope he holds on for as long as

610
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Speaker 1: he possibly can. Another guy he wants to hold on to,

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Speaker 1: his general manager, Eric DaCosta. Steve was asked about his

612
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Speaker 1: evaluation of Eric's performance, which, wow, that one when he's

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Speaker 1: sitting right next to you, and Steve went to bat

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Speaker 1: for Eric and said, you know, of course nobody bats

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Speaker 1: a thousand, but basically Eric costs batting about eight hundred

616
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Speaker 1: right now, and that he's going to focus on the

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Speaker 1: eight hundred and not the two hundred whiffs, and that uh,

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Speaker 1: you know, he feels like the Costa has done a

619
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Speaker 1: good job and he's sticking with him.

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Speaker 3: He said, he's one of the best gams in the league.

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Speaker 1: Yep.

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Speaker 2: And nobody's harder on himself than Eric. So as the

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Speaker 2: Ravens look at where they fell short this year, as

624
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Speaker 2: we've already talked about, they're not painting at all on

625
00:31:14,880 --> 00:31:18,200
Speaker 2: John Harbaugh. They're all looking collectively, how can we be better?

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Speaker 2: And Eric talked about that too.

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Speaker 1: And Eric, Yeah, Eric talked about himself and and you

628
00:31:21,680 --> 00:31:24,720
Speaker 1: know us as a scouting staff and and and all that,

629
00:31:24,880 --> 00:31:27,640
Speaker 1: like we bear some of this responsibility. We didn't do

630
00:31:27,680 --> 00:31:30,160
Speaker 1: a good enough job either. And so Eric coss Is

631
00:31:30,440 --> 00:31:33,640
Speaker 1: is very accountable and he says, you know where he

632
00:31:33,680 --> 00:31:37,280
Speaker 1: feels like they came up short as well. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Well, and and specifically as he talked about the roster,

634
00:31:41,080 --> 00:31:43,400
Speaker 2: the areas that he pointed to in terms of the

635
00:31:43,480 --> 00:31:45,880
Speaker 2: priorities to address this offseason, it felt like where the

636
00:31:46,000 --> 00:31:49,600
Speaker 2: Ravens came off short roster wise was pass rush, felt

637
00:31:49,640 --> 00:31:51,640
Speaker 2: like creating pressure. They just weren't able to do it

638
00:31:51,720 --> 00:31:54,040
Speaker 2: at a high enough level this year. Now, part of

639
00:31:54,080 --> 00:31:57,200
Speaker 2: that was the injury to Nomdi matabk early in the year,

640
00:31:57,200 --> 00:31:59,640
Speaker 2: which put him on the sidelines the rest of the season.

641
00:31:59,720 --> 00:32:02,440
Speaker 2: That clearly had a ripple effect that that hurt this

642
00:32:02,560 --> 00:32:05,560
Speaker 2: defense as a whole as a As a quick note,

643
00:32:05,560 --> 00:32:08,920
Speaker 2: there's still no update on Nomdimatabik and his status. There's

644
00:32:09,400 --> 00:32:11,800
Speaker 2: no update on that. That's been that's question has come

645
00:32:11,880 --> 00:32:15,120
Speaker 2: up many times. No update from Eric Tacosta on Nomdimatabike.

646
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Speaker 2: But going back to the roster construction, feels like pass

647
00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:20,440
Speaker 2: rush and getting after the quarterback is one area. The

648
00:32:20,480 --> 00:32:23,320
Speaker 2: others on the offensive line that was a big talking

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Speaker 2: point all throughout this year, felt like it was good

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Speaker 2: at times, but not good enough collectively as a unit,

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Speaker 2: and so those were the two main areas that he

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Speaker 2: identified as where the Ravens need to put their focus

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Speaker 2: this offseason.

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Speaker 1: Steve Ashotti made his feelings clear, saying he felt like

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Speaker 1: the offensive line didn't get any better this past season,

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Speaker 1: and that's certainly a fair assessment, you know, of of

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Speaker 1: those guys and the Ravens. They took a chance basically

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Speaker 1: with Daniel Fole and Andrew Voorhees and felt like they

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Speaker 1: had some young rose Roger Rosegarten felt like they had

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Speaker 1: pieces there that could continue to grow and as Daniel

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Speaker 1: follele I felt like was doing this previous year in

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty four, he got better as the season went

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Speaker 1: a long before he's you know, they had a lot

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Speaker 1: of confidence in him, and Steve Ashatti said, really, there

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Speaker 1: were a number of guys across the board, not just

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Speaker 1: the offensive line, that they were banking on taking the

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Speaker 1: next step, young players who did not take the next step,

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Speaker 1: and that was part of his evaluation of the need

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Speaker 1: for a coaching change as a whole. You know, just

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Speaker 1: identified that there was a coaching problem. We were relying

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Speaker 1: on young guys to take the next step and they didn't.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you want to see players develop, and they didn't

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Speaker 2: see enough development. And the offensive line is a perfect

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Speaker 2: example this one.

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Speaker 1: He specifically pointed to that.

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Speaker 2: And said this group was We expected this group to

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Speaker 2: get better and did not. And so so that was

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Speaker 2: part of what led to that decision from a coaching standpoint.

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Speaker 2: The other point too, I thought two other roster points

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Speaker 2: that stood out to me. One Eric Coosta was asked

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Speaker 2: about a trade and could you be in the market

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Speaker 2: for a big time game wrecking pass rusher didn't rule

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Speaker 2: it out, said the part of the challenge is it's

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Speaker 2: the draft compensation. If you're giving up a first round

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Speaker 2: pick and the contract that you will either have to

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Speaker 2: pay that guy or have already paid that guy. And

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Speaker 2: there's been a lot of big time deals like that

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Speaker 2: around the league that results are mixed on whether those

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Speaker 2: deals work out or not.

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Speaker 1: Michael Parsons Michael Parsons specifically to a pass rusher was

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Speaker 1: a massive deal for the Green with Packers, though he

692
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Speaker 1: suffered a season. Any injury injury, you can't control that necessarily,

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Speaker 1: But you gave up a ton and then the guy

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Speaker 1: gets hurt, you get bounced in the first round of

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Speaker 1: the playoffs. The big one at the trade deadline obviously

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Speaker 1: was Sauce Gardner with the Indianapolis Colts. They gave up

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Speaker 1: the world and then didn't even make the play, just

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Speaker 1: tanked down the rest of the season.

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Speaker 3: Supporter got hurt. But all those things are part of

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Speaker 3: the equation exactly, Like when.

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Speaker 1: You go all in on one player and something else fails.

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Speaker 1: Now that it didn't work out right, like you have

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Speaker 1: to have all the pieces come together to win a

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Speaker 1: suit super Bowl. Yeah, and when you put so much

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Speaker 1: and invest so much future capital in one player to

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Speaker 1: say this is this is going to be our year.

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Speaker 1: Good to get over the hump, and then when other

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Speaker 1: a different leg gets cut out from underneath you, you're

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Speaker 1: going to fail despite that move.

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Speaker 2: He made the point too, like if you if you

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Speaker 2: convince yourself you're one player away. You hear that a lot.

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Speaker 2: You're one player away, your one player away. This guy

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Speaker 2: could be the difference. And there's maybe some merit to that,

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Speaker 2: to it extent, but if you start thinking in those terms,

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Speaker 2: he said, then you're you're right to be disappointed.

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Speaker 1: And Eric Tacosta has made deadline deals. They've you know,

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Speaker 1: he's taken swings, whether it's a home run swing, He's

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Speaker 1: not going up there and swinging wildly, you know what

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Speaker 1: I mean. And he every year is active at the

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Speaker 1: trade deadline trying to make this team better, including this

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Speaker 1: past season trade for a Loie Gilman and you can

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Speaker 1: you know, question was that the right deal when you

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Speaker 1: see Aoa go off the way he did in LA

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Speaker 1: But whatever, it helped the Ravens. Certainly a Loohi came

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Speaker 1: in and helped the Ravens their doubt, you know, Jaremont

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Speaker 1: Jones again, and Eric did say today that he tried

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Speaker 1: to get a big time pass rusher and it just

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Speaker 1: didn't materialize.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that is, you know whatever.

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Speaker 1: I don't know, but he did tell Phillips went the

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Speaker 1: Philadelphia Eagles was pretty darn good there. He was a

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Speaker 1: big time pass rusher, right, who knows.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know, but I think that he's gonna

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Speaker 2: look at that as an avenue to improve his team.

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Speaker 2: But Dacasta and the Ravens overall still believe that the

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Speaker 2: draft is how this team is going to be built

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Speaker 2: and that is the lifelo of this organization. DaCosta has

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Speaker 2: said that on many occasions. I do not think that

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Speaker 2: philosophy is changing, but the Ravens will be aggressive and

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Speaker 2: looking at avenues to improve his team. One other point,

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Speaker 2: roster wise, Eric was asked Steve was asked about Tyler

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Speaker 2: Loop and again the question was in relation to whether

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Speaker 2: Loop if he makes that kick with John still be here,

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Speaker 2: and Steve said, for one more week if he had

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Speaker 2: made it, So they're not pinning the firing of John

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Speaker 2: Harbaugh and Tyler Loop missing that kick. But even more

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Speaker 2: than that, talked about Tyler Loops season and felt like

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Speaker 2: he has the right makeup to bounce back from that.

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Speaker 2: They really like what they saw from him this year.

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Speaker 2: It feels like he has the ability and the right

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Speaker 2: attitude to recover from that kick, and the expectations that

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Speaker 2: he will be the team's kicker next year.

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Speaker 1: Eric Tkassa also had Tyle loops back and defend him,

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Speaker 1: said he thought he had a very good rookie season.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so I think we've covered it all here.

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Speaker 2: Is there anything else that we miss Again, it was

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Speaker 2: an hour long press conference. I really do encourage you

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Speaker 2: to go back and listen to it in its entirety.

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Speaker 2: You can watch it on our website, our app, our

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Speaker 2: YouTube channel. You can listen to it as well on

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Speaker 2: the Ravens Press Pass podcast feed. It was an enlightening

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Speaker 2: and sightful time to hear from Steve A. Shoddy and

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Speaker 2: Eric Tacosta, And I think it gave me, certainly a

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Speaker 2: lot of confidence in the Ravens' ability to go through

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Speaker 2: this search process and you feel like you have the

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Speaker 2: right people leading the way and with Steve and Eric,

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Speaker 2: Steve at the top of the command and the people

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Speaker 2: that he's empowered in these positions to go find the

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Speaker 2: coach and build this team and build this organization. There's

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Speaker 2: a lot of reason to be confident and optimism about

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Speaker 2: the short term and long term future of this team,

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Speaker 2: in this organization.

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Speaker 1: The Ravens aren't alone in this right now in being

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Speaker 1: in a period of flux. As I said, three out

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Speaker 1: of the four teams they f C North are looking

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Speaker 1: for a new head coach this year. Pittsburgh Steelers are

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Speaker 1: and they don't have Lamar Jackson. Pittsburgh Steels looking for

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Speaker 1: a new head coach and a quarterback, you know, Aaron

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Speaker 1: Rodgers might have been his final game in the playoff

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Speaker 1: loss to the Texans, so they're in a much tougher spot.

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Speaker 1: I think the Ravens are certainly poised to bounce back

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Speaker 1: and have immediate success. I mean, will go through this more.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, the Bengals are keeping it together, but they

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Speaker 1: have major questions on defense. Their defense is among the

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Speaker 1: worst in the league for a second straight year. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and so yes, I think the Ravens. I feel it's

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Speaker 1: tough when you move on from your head coach. And

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Speaker 1: we've said it, man, it was jaw like. John's been

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Speaker 1: here for eighteen years, been through a lot of great stuff,

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Speaker 1: and it was jarring that when they finally made that decision.

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Speaker 1: Even though we'd all talked about it, and John, you know,

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Speaker 1: like you thought it could come. When it happens, it's jarring.

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Speaker 1: But then to see these guys get up there today

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Speaker 1: to your point, like you're like, man, we got a

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Speaker 1: lot going on here, a lot of great things going on.

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Speaker 1: When you have the right leadership. This is what everybody says.

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Speaker 1: When you have the right leadership, which the Ravens have

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Speaker 1: had for a very long time. Here, you're in a

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Speaker 1: good spot and you're gonna compete. You're gonna compete routinely,

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Speaker 1: and I think the Ravens are going to be right

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Speaker 1: back in it next year, right the top, challenging for

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Speaker 1: an AFC North Championship. Yep.

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Speaker 2: Well I'm fired up after hearing from them today. As always,

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Speaker 2: you can email us at the lounge at ravenst nfl

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Speaker 2: dot net. Thank you as always for listening and we

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Speaker 2: will be back with you again soon