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Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.

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Speaker 2: Cowboys.

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Speaker 1: This is Nick shot, streaming live on dallascowboys dot Com

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Speaker 1: and the official Dallas Cowboys app now Here are Bill Jones,

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Speaker 1: Hecma Harrison, Everson Walls, and Mickey Spagnola.

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Speaker 3: It is a Monday morning inside the SWBC podcast studio

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Speaker 3: here at the Star in Frisco. And it's also a

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Speaker 3: Monday morning at the corner of Ventura Vistage in Oxnard, California.

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Speaker 3: One final Monday morning in Oxnard. Yes, Mickey Spagnola, three

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Speaker 3: days away from breaking camp on Thursday. We are here

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Speaker 3: to wrap up and take a look back at what

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Speaker 3: happened on Saturday. But we're wrapping up the Oxnard portion

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Speaker 3: of training camp as ever since shakes his head when

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Speaker 3: I mentioned Saturday. I wait to hear what Everson has

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Speaker 3: to say. You got Bill Jones, Everson Walls, You've got

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Speaker 3: heck Ma Harrison, and the sun has come out in Oxnard, California. Mickey,

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Speaker 3: despite the fact what happened on Saturday night at SOFI.

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Speaker 4: Stadium, well that's your when you played. I know I

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Speaker 4: was trying to I want I wanted to make sure

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Speaker 4: you weren't asking everybody that question, and I talked over

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Speaker 4: everybody because there is a delay. What happened? What happened?

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Speaker 4: It was as I just towed Heck off the air.

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Speaker 4: It was a typical first preseason game for the Dallas Cowboys.

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Speaker 4: Nobody played.

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Speaker 2: That's it.

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Speaker 4: Well, I think that's what is that?

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Speaker 3: That sums I think you know what? That sums it up?

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Speaker 3: You know what's happened here? Ever since in HECKMA, I

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Speaker 3: think Producer Supreme has told Mickey he's talking too much.

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Speaker 2: Okay, if you're gonna, are you throwing it to us, Mick,

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Speaker 2: you're throwing it to us? Are we good? You're good?

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Speaker 2: You're throwing to us?

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Speaker 4: Okay, go ahead and go ahead until I until I

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Speaker 4: have to until I have to interrupt you. Because the

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Speaker 4: only person uh in that stadium that knew who played

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Speaker 4: for the Cowboys was Bill Jones.

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Speaker 2: Well only because I.

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Speaker 3: Got a big green.

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Speaker 2: Right there in front of him.

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Speaker 3: Because I'm the only one who's Yeah, all the research

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Speaker 3: on the ninety players that are playing on both you know,

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Speaker 3: it's the last forty five that you got to really

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Speaker 3: do the research on on these preseason as top forty five.

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Speaker 3: They're not involved.

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Speaker 2: I gotta say Bill and his team, they were the

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Speaker 2: highlights of the game itself because the game was man

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Speaker 2: to me, it was just deja vu, that's all. It

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Speaker 2: was just dejavou. Now you could have stopped with that one.

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Speaker 4: Spags, Well, did you recognize anybody playing?

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Speaker 2: No, I don't recognize anybody playing during the season either

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Speaker 2: half the time, especially with all the injuries that we had.

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Speaker 4: Well that's a big that's a big problem for this show.

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Speaker 2: So what I saw awesome Richards out there.

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Speaker 3: Uh huh yeah.

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Speaker 4: Okay, he's a backup.

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Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, he's a backup, but he's he's been here

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Speaker 2: more than one year. Let me hear, let me give me,

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Speaker 2: give me something.

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Speaker 3: Let's let heck bun. Let's get heck bud.

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Speaker 2: Thank you swing it.

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Speaker 5: Really, I've been watching y'all fight this thing out. So look,

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Speaker 5: I'm the new guy in here. Now you're not. This

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Speaker 5: is your room, okay, your room. Look I can tell

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Speaker 5: you this after talking to Mickey off air earlier, and

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Speaker 5: he gave me one sentence also, so I'm just happy

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Speaker 5: it wasn't just me and he gave you all the

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Speaker 5: same treatment. You know, after that game went off, and

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Speaker 5: I've watched it a couple of times ever since, and

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Speaker 2: Because it was one of those things.

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Speaker 5: And obviously, you know, it's a bunch of backups and

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Speaker 5: guys that you're just wanting to at least get a

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Speaker 5: coming into the game, I think there were some guys

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Speaker 5: that played. I think that we already knew what they were.

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Speaker 2: They didn't. They didn't prove anything different to us. You

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Speaker 5: I listened to coach Brian Schottenheimer and those press conferences

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Speaker 5: We probably got more out of the joint practice than

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Speaker 5: dealing with double teams pretty primarily the whole game, but

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Speaker 5: double team in the one technique, and if you couldn't

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Speaker 5: the thirty one to twenty one at the end, you know,

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Speaker 5: I just think that for it could have been worse.

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Speaker 5: It absolutely could have been worse, because I felt like

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Speaker 2: Missed a lot of wide open guys.

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Speaker 5: But Bill, you and Isaiah did a wonderful job, and

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Speaker 5: Isaiah was pointing out some things about the defense, and

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Speaker 5: I think that Cowboy Nation and other people need to

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Speaker 5: know that these guys on that front line are just

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Speaker 5: playing too high, the pad level, all of those things.

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Speaker 2: That's what we said. Everyone's vertical, that's what we said,

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Speaker 5: It just made for sloppy play for the defensive line.

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Speaker 5: So that was pretty much my take. But I just

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Speaker 2: And see with me. Yes, those were thirty four teamers

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Speaker 2: and no one knew their names. Well, hell, I didn't

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Speaker 2: know any of the rams names either. They were thirty

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Speaker 2: I didn't see certain guys improving in that regard. The

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Speaker 2: made any plays to break that pattern that we have

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Speaker 2: here and the pattern that we have one hundred and

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Speaker 2: preseason game dude, their blocking scene seems to be together

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Speaker 2: We still have guys can't get off the blocks, and

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Speaker 2: we saw all last year. We saw also no coordination

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Speaker 2: you still have to know when you got to set

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Speaker 2: the adds damage. You got to set the aedds. That's

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Speaker 2: number one. Number two, don't get cut off when this

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Speaker 2: out of that because there was no pursuit. We saw

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Speaker 2: it's throwing the four stringers, I get that, But the

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Speaker 2: scheme itself that we've been working on, that we've been

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Speaker 2: trying to improve from last year, all of that training

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Speaker 3: All right, I'll say one thing about you couldn't you

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Speaker 3: couldn't make Micky let me say this one thing and

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Speaker 3: and give you a chance here that it's very difficult

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Speaker 3: not to play too high in the interior of the

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Speaker 3: defensive line when they've got a five to eleven center.

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Speaker 3: Willy lamp get stuck Will lamp out of North Carolina,

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Speaker 3: undrafted rookie playing the center and go. You can find

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Speaker 3: some of the video of him. I think Brandon Thorn

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Speaker 2: He was putting in the world. He was putting in

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Speaker 2: the work because we were right up.

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Speaker 3: He was only a little taller than Mickey, and he

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Speaker 3: was putting to the work. All right, Mickey, I just

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Speaker 3: wanted to throw that in turn.

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Speaker 4: Their their backups were better than the Cowboys backups. And

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Speaker 4: you can't scheme? Could could could the scheme change the

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Speaker 4: team in nineteen eighty nine? You can tell me all

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Speaker 4: about scheme, But if I ain't got any players to

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Speaker 4: scheme is? Look at who played on defense? One guy

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Speaker 4: would have been Leophile and you saw him play right.

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Speaker 4: He was the best defensive player on the field. And

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Speaker 4: he only played ten snaps. I don't know if Mozzy

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Speaker 4: Smith will start. He started in that game. He played

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Speaker 4: ten snaps. So they didn't play guys that are gonna

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Speaker 4: actually play. They got more. And I don't know if

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Speaker 4: Hekmasa said this, they got more out of the scrimmage

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Speaker 4: then they did this game because at least they played

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Speaker 4: their guys. Now, if you wanted to criticize them in

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Speaker 4: the scrimmage, go ahead, because they played everybody. And look,

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Speaker 4: if you can't if you can't get good quarterback play,

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Speaker 4: you can have the greatest scheme in the world and

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Speaker 4: you're not going to be successful. And the quarterback play

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Speaker 4: was horrible to me. It was up and down, and

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Speaker 4: you can't overcome a quarterback. You can overcome other things,

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Speaker 4: but you can't overcome the quarterback. And somehow, some way,

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Speaker 4: they put twenty one points on the board.

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Speaker 5: I just wanted to pickyback off of Whateverson was saying,

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Speaker 5: and I think not to say anything contradictory what Mickey

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Speaker 5: pursuing underneath, and nobody grades out on at all in

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Speaker 2: You know that.

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Speaker 5: But you see guys taking bad angles, you know. You

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Speaker 5: see guys trying to cut underneath the block instead of

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Speaker 2: Patrol on the back. That's right, right. You don't have

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Speaker 2: to scheme basic fess all, yeah, you got it. You

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Speaker 2: have to know when there's a a a tight wide

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Speaker 2: hit me in my ear hole. Little things like that.

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Speaker 2: You should know that from college. Your defensive play of

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Speaker 2: the year. You should know that in college, there's no

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Speaker 2: I'm saying to edge, not only from that individual standpoint,

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Speaker 2: it's what we saw all last year. Still giving up

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Speaker 2: the edge from last year and spags. There's a scheme,

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Speaker 4: How many points did Philadelphia give up? World champions? I

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Speaker 3: They gave up twenty seven to the Bengals. They won

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Speaker 4: K and they didn't play anybody on defense, not a soul.

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Speaker 3: I mean, oh, here's a good one. So the Commanders,

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Speaker 4: Row bad scheme, bad scheme, You guys. You just have

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Speaker 4: If that was the front line players out there, then

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Speaker 3: here were his numbers from Saturday night, seventeen of twenty nine,

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I thought at best it was average. He gave

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Speaker 4: He just doesn't have enough experience to compensate for whatever

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Speaker 4: Well maybe he's the backup quarterback of the future, but

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Speaker 2: I did see SPACs some really bad throws. I looked

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Speaker 3: He had one interception on the throw in the end zone.

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Speaker 3: He could have had three interceptions, Yes, one early and

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I just felt, you know, look, here's for me,

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Speaker 5: It just seemed like that for a rookie quarterback or

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Speaker 5: back quarterbacks all have a certain trait. They're late and

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Speaker 5: because most of the time that goes the other way.

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Speaker 5: He still has to develop, and in the development phase

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Speaker 3: Here that Saturday night against Baltimore, well at home, and

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Speaker 4: I was gonna say, so, you're giving him a pass,

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Speaker 4: But the other guys you're saying they should know the

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Speaker 5: I actually can in this situation because he's the quarterback,

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Speaker 5: The guys that I'm talking to.

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Speaker 4: Well, the center might be the center might be.

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Speaker 2: About a brand new guy. That's why I'm giving him

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Speaker 4: The center might be Wait, the center might be brand new, right,

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Speaker 4: might be brand new. But you graded them like they were.

438
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Speaker 4: And now when the backup quarterback comes in and starts,

439
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Speaker 4: you're saying, well, we got to be patient.

440
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Speaker 2: Bags. I'm grading them as football players. When it comes

441
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Speaker 2: to playing quarterback, you gotta know how to throw the ball.

442
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Speaker 2: But you also have to know a scheme. When I'm

443
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Speaker 2: talking about basic pursuit technique, you don't have to be

444
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Speaker 2: a started. Well, how about it, that's like running.

445
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Speaker 4: How about a basic ten yard pass?

446
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Speaker 2: We do a pursuit drill in practice, and I see

447
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Speaker 2: a linement that doesn't know how to pursue. That's the

448
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Speaker 2: same as that. But if you're talking about.

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Speaker 4: Playing, well, I want a quarterback that can throw a

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Speaker 4: ten yard pass. Me too, I want a quarterback that

451
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Speaker 4: can throw a ten yard pass. Yeah, got nothing to

452
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Speaker 4: do with scheme or an experience.

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Speaker 2: Now we're still on his butts bags.

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Speaker 4: He's not. What I'm saying is he's not ready.

455
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Speaker 2: Oh we are too. We're saying that is okay.

456
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Speaker 4: Well we agree with you. So so my guess is

457
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Speaker 4: a Donagy might not be ready to start at right tackle.

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Speaker 3: That's alchemi energy. Yeah, ye, seventy five?

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Speaker 4: Did you know he did you know he was on

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Speaker 4: the field.

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Speaker 3: He saw him on the sack Josiah Stewart had a sack,

462
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Speaker 3: went by the right tackle. Seventy five.

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Speaker 4: See Bill do it.

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Speaker 2: All right? Uh?

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Speaker 3: As far as the court, the Will Greer comes into

466
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Speaker 3: the game after and apparently Milton's okay, right, the elbow

467
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Speaker 3: is okay.

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Speaker 4: They're saying, yeah, it wasn't Yeah, they were saying that

469
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Speaker 4: it wasn't serious.

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Speaker 3: Uh.

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Speaker 4: He said, it's like he hit his funny bone.

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Speaker 3: Uh.

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Speaker 4: He was throwing passes on the sideline by the bench.

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Speaker 3: Uh.

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Speaker 4: And he grabbed his helmet like he was going back in.

476
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Speaker 4: And they said, naw, let's let's just want to make it.

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Speaker 3: To say, what I'm about to say has nothing to

478
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Speaker 3: do with Will Greer's performance on Saturday Night at all.

479
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Speaker 3: But if you go back and look at Will Geer's career,

480
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Speaker 3: he's now thirty years old, and his talent coming out,

481
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Speaker 3: not only going back to even high school National Player

482
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Speaker 3: of the Year in high school. Then he goes to Florida.

483
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Speaker 3: He has a red shirt freshman, becomes a starter at Florida,

484
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Speaker 3: started six games, and then the NCAAA came down on him.

485
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Speaker 3: He bought a used a over the counter drug that

486
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Speaker 3: got on the NCAA LISP and he didn't check with

487
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Speaker 3: his trainers. He got suspended for a year, so he

488
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Speaker 3: winds up having to transfer to West Virginia. Finished fourth

489
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Speaker 3: in the Heisman voting at West Virginia. Now in the NFL,

490
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Speaker 3: he started two Gamess, a third round pick of the Panthers.

491
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Speaker 3: Okay started two games for Carolina. I don't know what

492
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Speaker 3: all went on there, Okay. So now he's been a

493
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Speaker 3: journeyman since he came here. Then he last year he

494
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Speaker 3: was with a couple of different teams, wound up on

495
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Speaker 3: philadel If his practice squad, Cowboys picking up late in

496
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Speaker 3: the year. Now he's back here, Okay, and we've seen

497
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Speaker 3: him play in the preseason before.

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Speaker 2: Whatever.

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Speaker 3: The only reason I even bring this up is I'm

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Speaker 3: scratched my head ever since Okay brought him back last

501
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Speaker 3: year and then Schottenneimer seems to like him. Okay, Dak.

502
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Speaker 3: You know he fits in well within the quarterback room

503
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Speaker 3: with Dak. Okay, now he's here, I'm sitting there going Okay.

504
00:28:22,880 --> 00:28:27,159
Speaker 3: Now he's thirty years old, and this is does he

505
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Speaker 3: have a spot on this roster once September hits. So

506
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Speaker 3: it's going to be interesting to see and if he

507
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Speaker 3: gets some playing time here. But what I'm getting to is,

508
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Speaker 3: I look around the league and I see case Keenum.

509
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Speaker 3: It was a world of difference. Yesterday in the Chicago game.

510
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Speaker 3: I'm sitting there watching him when he comes into the game,

511
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Speaker 3: as a thirty seven year old in these preseason games,

512
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Speaker 3: and he knows exactly where he looked like a precision

513
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Speaker 3: And of course case Keenum had his opportun tunity with Minnesota.

514
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Speaker 3: This is going back now eight years ago, twenty seventeen. Okay,

515
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Speaker 3: leads him to the playoffs and then got a conference

516
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Speaker 3: championship game, didn't there right there?

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Speaker 5: Yeah?

518
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Speaker 3: And they lost The Eagles lost the Eagles in the

519
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Speaker 3: championship game in seventeen. Okay. Then he goes to Denver whatever,

520
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Speaker 3: and now he sits here forever. Okay. I look at

521
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Speaker 3: Geno Smith. Gino Smith out of the same school Will

522
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Speaker 3: Greer was at West Virginia, and he gets because he

523
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Speaker 3: was a high draft pick. He plays immediately with the Jets,

524
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Speaker 3: starts for two years and is a bust quote unquote bust.

525
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Speaker 3: Then he sits for a decade. Basically, it wasn't quite

526
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Speaker 3: a decade, but it was a good six or seven

527
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Speaker 3: years where he doesn't get an opportunity at all. Then

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Speaker 3: he finally he's out of football. He didn't even play

529
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Speaker 3: in twenty nineteen. And then he's with Seattle and then

530
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Speaker 3: he becomes a starter and then he you know, and

531
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Speaker 3: so my point on all this is experience matters so

532
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Speaker 3: much in this league. That's why I'm giving right guy

533
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Speaker 3: like Joe Milton, for a guy like Trey Lance, for

534
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Speaker 3: those kind of guys. If you don't get that opportunity,

535
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Speaker 3: then you can't improve as a quarterback. So this is

536
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Speaker 3: the opportunity for Joe Milton to improve Dak Prescott. What's

537
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Speaker 3: the best thing that happened to Dak Prescott in twenty sixteen.

538
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Speaker 3: It wasn't Tony Romo's injury which gave him a chance.

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Speaker 3: The best thing that happened for him is they had

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Speaker 3: an offensive line. The Cowboys had an offensive line, and him,

541
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Speaker 3: at a fourth round draft pick, was able to have

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Speaker 3: success his first year, get his sea legs in the league,

543
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Speaker 3: and the rest, as they say, is history. And so

544
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Speaker 3: that's just a little perspective. I don't even even with

545
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Speaker 3: Will Grier, I count him in the hunt here to

546
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Speaker 3: be to win a spot on this roster.

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Speaker 2: But you got to have a roster offensively such as

548
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Speaker 2: that one. That's right. I don't think we have that

549
00:30:50,800 --> 00:30:54,040
Speaker 2: roster offensively offensive line, I don't mean offensive left.

550
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Speaker 3: They're building it, but it's trying.

551
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Speaker 2: We're trying to get that culture back. But we had

552
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Speaker 2: that culture of a running game with Demarchael Murray was

553
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Speaker 2: and when he you know, he was there with Romo.

554
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Speaker 3: And then Zeke came in twenty sixteen and then Zeke

555
00:31:07,320 --> 00:31:07,840
Speaker 3: came out.

556
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Speaker 2: So we had that culture was already established. We don't

557
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Speaker 2: have that re established here yet. Yep.

558
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean to add to that.

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Speaker 4: Making Well, here's the here's the comparable. What's the difference

560
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Speaker 4: between Joe Milton and Trey Lance experience?

561
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Speaker 3: What's what's the difference between them?

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Speaker 4: Oh, you said trade, Yeah, it's the same guy. It's

563
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Speaker 4: the same guy.

564
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Speaker 3: Milton Milton. Since twenty eighteen, Milton has thrown one hundred

565
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Speaker 3: passes more passes than Trey Lance has since twenty eighteen,

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Speaker 3: which isn't much for either one of them.

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Speaker 4: And what was trade? And what was Trey Lance last year?

568
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Speaker 4: The third quarterback?

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Speaker 2: Right? Yep?

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Speaker 4: So you ate got I think he should be, but

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Speaker 4: I don't know who's the backup, you know, is the

572
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Speaker 4: backup somewhere? I don't know, some other team's gonna cut

573
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Speaker 4: some quarterbacks.

574
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Speaker 3: Milton still got a couple more opportunities here to prove

575
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Speaker 3: he can be the he does number two guy here.

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Speaker 2: And That's what I talked about, maybe these remaining preseason

577
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Speaker 2: games he might be able.

578
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Speaker 3: To see that improvement, show some improvement.

579
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Speaker 2: And get more of a comfort zone. Because you could

580
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Speaker 2: clearly see that the kid was nervous. And I don't know,

581
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Speaker 2: I understand that the kid is nervous. He's coming to

582
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Speaker 2: a new system, new team, all of that, but I

583
00:32:26,760 --> 00:32:31,080
Speaker 2: still wanted him to be able to throw basic passes

584
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Speaker 2: to get himself comfortable.

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Speaker 8: Now.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if the wide receivers and he were

587
00:32:35,680 --> 00:32:37,920
Speaker 2: not on the same page, that could have been the problem.

588
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Speaker 2: But whatever it is, if I'm a coach, I'm going

589
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Speaker 2: to send him out there under conditions that are going

590
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Speaker 2: to make sure that he can succeed. And I believe

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Speaker 2: that's what they tried to do. With that result, they

592
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Speaker 2: did not do it. That's that's why I'm disappointed.

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Speaker 5: I can't believe Mickey called me out when I was

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Speaker 5: trying to be diplomatic.

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Speaker 2: Okay, I was trying to.

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Speaker 4: You were being you know, you weren't being diplomatic with

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Speaker 4: You were crushing them.

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Speaker 2: The wrong guy. Okay, okay, we will.

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Speaker 3: All right, we continue on Mick Schanzer, our final segment.

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Speaker 3: Here we are in Frisco, where right now it's eighty

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Speaker 2: More than that.

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656
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Speaker 3: on Saturday night in the final preseason game, the following

657
00:36:33,600 --> 00:36:39,919
Speaker 3: Friday against Atlanta, and open practices next week on Tuesday

658
00:36:40,040 --> 00:36:44,919
Speaker 3: and Wednesday, the nineteenth and the twentieth. Hey, how about this,

659
00:36:45,760 --> 00:36:49,840
Speaker 3: the final roster cuts across the league. It's two weeks

660
00:36:49,840 --> 00:36:53,200
Speaker 3: from tomorrow, on August twenty sixth. That's how close we

661
00:36:53,239 --> 00:36:55,480
Speaker 3: are to get in this thing started.

662
00:36:55,600 --> 00:36:56,400
Speaker 2: Let's go initially.

663
00:36:56,560 --> 00:37:01,359
Speaker 3: Okay, all right, how about us standout or two that

664
00:37:01,480 --> 00:37:06,160
Speaker 3: who cut your eye in a positive way on Saturday night.

665
00:37:06,200 --> 00:37:08,320
Speaker 3: Start with you every Sunday and go heck money.

666
00:37:08,040 --> 00:37:09,960
Speaker 2: I'm so glad you want to start me because I

667
00:37:10,000 --> 00:37:13,080
Speaker 2: still have a little side note here. As much as

668
00:37:13,080 --> 00:37:16,160
Speaker 2: I loved you guys in the booth, uh, I hated

669
00:37:16,239 --> 00:37:21,880
Speaker 2: the broadcasting of the show itself. There was not enough replays. Okay,

670
00:37:22,160 --> 00:37:24,759
Speaker 2: not nearly enough replays because I'm trying to figure out

671
00:37:24,760 --> 00:37:27,040
Speaker 2: who's making tackle? What number is this guy?

672
00:37:27,120 --> 00:37:30,520
Speaker 3: Wasn't numbers that guy another on the sideline?

673
00:37:30,719 --> 00:37:33,520
Speaker 2: Come on? Oh yeah, I did see that from the

674
00:37:33,560 --> 00:37:34,600
Speaker 2: local news that that.

675
00:37:34,560 --> 00:37:38,160
Speaker 3: Was they got it from. It was incredible from our broadcast.

676
00:37:38,520 --> 00:37:40,200
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, that was great. That was the best.

677
00:37:40,280 --> 00:37:42,240
Speaker 3: All Yemen was all over that on the sideline.

678
00:37:42,280 --> 00:37:44,800
Speaker 2: But that that was the best that they did. Otherwise

679
00:37:44,840 --> 00:37:47,399
Speaker 2: I couldn't tell who was who half the time because

680
00:37:47,400 --> 00:37:49,640
Speaker 2: they were just moving on with the game. But they

681
00:37:49,680 --> 00:37:51,040
Speaker 2: did have one player.

682
00:37:51,600 --> 00:37:51,719
Speaker 3: Uh.

683
00:37:52,440 --> 00:37:56,560
Speaker 2: You talked about him, number forty eight, if I'm not mistaken.

684
00:37:56,600 --> 00:37:59,560
Speaker 2: He was a linebacker and you talked about how.

685
00:37:59,440 --> 00:38:03,440
Speaker 3: He oh no, just safety Zion Childress.

686
00:38:03,040 --> 00:38:06,200
Speaker 2: Children good player, yeah, good player made a lot.

687
00:38:06,000 --> 00:38:10,080
Speaker 3: Of the Kentucky started his career at Texas State. But

688
00:38:10,320 --> 00:38:12,880
Speaker 3: he's and he has he has opened up some eyes

689
00:38:12,880 --> 00:38:14,120
Speaker 3: from the from the get go.

690
00:38:14,520 --> 00:38:17,080
Speaker 2: He reminded me, even though I think it's a different position.

691
00:38:17,120 --> 00:38:19,719
Speaker 2: He reminded me of luifoul in the way how he

692
00:38:19,760 --> 00:38:26,640
Speaker 2: played downhill downhill, the aggressiveness, no diagnosing quickly and making moves.

693
00:38:27,120 --> 00:38:29,680
Speaker 2: But when you're the only one doing that, it doesn't

694
00:38:29,680 --> 00:38:32,319
Speaker 2: turn out well because as he's turning things in, they're

695
00:38:32,360 --> 00:38:34,439
Speaker 2: still able to get outside. Because once again we talked

696
00:38:34,440 --> 00:38:36,719
Speaker 2: about that no pursuit coming from the inside. But I

697
00:38:36,719 --> 00:38:38,440
Speaker 2: thought that he did a damn good job.

698
00:38:38,360 --> 00:38:41,320
Speaker 3: Childress and sub packages especially. I mean he's in contention

699
00:38:41,520 --> 00:38:43,520
Speaker 3: to and it was the way he was used by

700
00:38:44,239 --> 00:38:47,920
Speaker 3: Mark Stoops at Kentucky. Uh he had last year he

701
00:38:47,960 --> 00:38:49,480
Speaker 3: had six tackles for loss.

702
00:38:50,160 --> 00:38:52,799
Speaker 2: Uh you bragged on him real well, yeah, yeah, he

703
00:38:52,920 --> 00:38:53,600
Speaker 2: did a good job.

704
00:38:53,640 --> 00:38:57,000
Speaker 3: Well thank you. Yeah, one guy that I did some research.

705
00:38:57,239 --> 00:38:59,400
Speaker 3: He was also a two year team captain at Kentucky.

706
00:38:59,560 --> 00:39:01,680
Speaker 3: Always like that in the Big Green Notebook too. But

707
00:39:01,719 --> 00:39:03,880
Speaker 3: he's only he's five eleven to two oh three, so

708
00:39:04,040 --> 00:39:04,560
Speaker 3: he's a dB.

709
00:39:04,719 --> 00:39:05,879
Speaker 2: That's good. Yeah, that's good.

710
00:39:06,800 --> 00:39:09,560
Speaker 3: But the instincts and all of that looks like.

711
00:39:10,200 --> 00:39:12,480
Speaker 2: Sean Lee type of thing. We always talking about Sharlie

712
00:39:12,560 --> 00:39:15,000
Speaker 2: with a quick diagnosis playing downhill.

713
00:39:14,920 --> 00:39:17,920
Speaker 3: Good eye there, forty eight Zion Childress.

714
00:39:17,640 --> 00:39:20,000
Speaker 5: Say, if you're gonna be wrong, be wrong fast, right,

715
00:39:21,080 --> 00:39:23,840
Speaker 5: do it all fast. Marsh Le obviously jumped off the

716
00:39:23,840 --> 00:39:26,399
Speaker 5: page for me, and I came in looking for him

717
00:39:26,520 --> 00:39:28,399
Speaker 5: to be that player. But I also was looking at

718
00:39:28,560 --> 00:39:31,160
Speaker 5: Shamar James, our rookie number fifty. They said a lot

719
00:39:31,200 --> 00:39:33,759
Speaker 5: about him coming out of Oxnard, so I wanted to

720
00:39:33,760 --> 00:39:35,680
Speaker 5: see what he looked like. I mean, look, he wasn't

721
00:39:35,760 --> 00:39:38,439
Speaker 5: running around blocks things. It's not like he made any

722
00:39:38,800 --> 00:39:41,920
Speaker 5: just big time plays. But just seeing him as a

723
00:39:42,040 --> 00:39:44,879
Speaker 5: rookie in the way that he conducted himself, I think

724
00:39:44,920 --> 00:39:47,520
Speaker 5: that's better than anything. Just seeing a guy is he

725
00:39:47,560 --> 00:39:48,880
Speaker 5: is he out there playing wild?

726
00:39:49,000 --> 00:39:49,680
Speaker 2: Is he you know? Running?

727
00:39:49,680 --> 00:39:51,560
Speaker 5: He was where he was supposed to be an absolute

728
00:39:51,800 --> 00:39:53,279
Speaker 5: you know, and so he wasn't getting blown out of

729
00:39:53,320 --> 00:39:55,919
Speaker 5: gaps things like that. So I mean, look, thirty five

730
00:39:55,960 --> 00:39:58,239
Speaker 5: and fifty for me, and linebacker was where I was looking,

731
00:39:58,239 --> 00:39:59,040
Speaker 5: and I was impressed there.

732
00:39:59,040 --> 00:40:01,120
Speaker 3: And the other thing about Shamark James, he's so young.

733
00:40:01,160 --> 00:40:04,319
Speaker 3: He just turned twenty one last month, and so that's

734
00:40:04,360 --> 00:40:07,160
Speaker 3: another guy that's you can He's got a lot of promise.

735
00:40:07,160 --> 00:40:08,920
Speaker 3: All right, Mickey, who's a guy for you?

736
00:40:11,880 --> 00:40:15,200
Speaker 4: Well, I'm not going to go with the obvious one,

737
00:40:15,320 --> 00:40:19,320
Speaker 4: Malik Davis. Right, we talked about him a little bit earlier.

738
00:40:19,080 --> 00:40:20,359
Speaker 2: Talked but.

739
00:40:21,920 --> 00:40:25,240
Speaker 4: A young guy, a young guy that has been stepping

740
00:40:25,320 --> 00:40:31,279
Speaker 4: up here and might force their hand. Wide receiver Trey

741
00:40:31,320 --> 00:40:35,399
Speaker 4: Shawn Holden. Yes, he's a rookie free agent and he

742
00:40:35,880 --> 00:40:40,240
Speaker 4: just keeps making plays. Now, I don't know if there's

743
00:40:40,280 --> 00:40:43,440
Speaker 4: a room at the end because if you look at

744
00:40:43,480 --> 00:40:47,880
Speaker 4: the wide receiver position, you can almost name five guys.

745
00:40:48,480 --> 00:40:51,400
Speaker 4: I think there's like three guys that are trying to

746
00:40:51,440 --> 00:40:54,840
Speaker 4: say you got to keep six, uh, and I think

747
00:40:54,880 --> 00:40:57,680
Speaker 4: he's one of them. I think he's on the practice

748
00:40:57,680 --> 00:40:58,600
Speaker 4: squad for sure.

749
00:40:59,800 --> 00:41:02,080
Speaker 3: But that's a question.

750
00:41:02,640 --> 00:41:06,959
Speaker 4: That's the thing that I'm not sure of. I don't

751
00:41:07,000 --> 00:41:10,719
Speaker 4: think he's a return guy. And if he was a

752
00:41:10,760 --> 00:41:13,720
Speaker 4: return guy, he would be a backup return guy because

753
00:41:13,719 --> 00:41:19,040
Speaker 4: we know who the return guy is. But as a

754
00:41:19,040 --> 00:41:26,359
Speaker 4: as ever kicks what yeah exactly, because if you try

755
00:41:27,120 --> 00:41:29,400
Speaker 4: the plays he's making, and you saw him make a

756
00:41:29,480 --> 00:41:32,520
Speaker 4: couple back to back in the game, and he's made

757
00:41:32,560 --> 00:41:37,759
Speaker 4: some spectacular catches out here in practice. You might not

758
00:41:37,920 --> 00:41:40,240
Speaker 4: be able to get him to the practice squad because

759
00:41:40,239 --> 00:41:43,279
Speaker 4: somebody might say, well, I kind of like that guy. Now,

760
00:41:43,360 --> 00:41:46,960
Speaker 4: I know everybody out there has a receiver like this,

761
00:41:47,480 --> 00:41:49,719
Speaker 4: and so you sit there and go, I don't know

762
00:41:49,760 --> 00:41:51,480
Speaker 4: if we can get him the practice squad. Well, I

763
00:41:51,520 --> 00:41:55,280
Speaker 4: think everybody's got somebody like him that's coming out of nowhere.

764
00:41:56,120 --> 00:42:00,239
Speaker 4: But I think he's been a pleasant surprise for this

765
00:42:00,360 --> 00:42:05,000
Speaker 4: offensive staff. The way he conducts himself. And remember he

766
00:42:05,120 --> 00:42:08,640
Speaker 4: was at Oregon with Junior Adams, the wide receiver coach

767
00:42:08,840 --> 00:42:10,480
Speaker 4: was and he kind of got him here.

768
00:42:10,640 --> 00:42:13,480
Speaker 3: I guarantee you a lot about it. I guarantee you, Mickey,

769
00:42:13,520 --> 00:42:16,399
Speaker 3: he may have been a pleasant surprise to the rest

770
00:42:16,400 --> 00:42:19,280
Speaker 3: of the staff. I guarantee you he's not a surprise

771
00:42:19,360 --> 00:42:22,960
Speaker 3: to his position coach, Junior Adams, who as you had

772
00:42:23,000 --> 00:42:26,120
Speaker 3: him for two years at Oregon and they had they

773
00:42:26,120 --> 00:42:28,840
Speaker 3: had some studs at the wide receiver position at Oregon

774
00:42:28,880 --> 00:42:31,440
Speaker 3: two and he had forty five catches in five touchdowns

775
00:42:31,480 --> 00:42:35,360
Speaker 3: last year, and his first year at Oregon thirty seven

776
00:42:35,400 --> 00:42:38,480
Speaker 3: catches and six touchdowns with Bo Nick throwing him the ball.

777
00:42:38,520 --> 00:42:42,320
Speaker 3: And by the way, prior to that, he was at Alabama,

778
00:42:42,920 --> 00:42:45,160
Speaker 3: and so you know, he had a lot of talent

779
00:42:45,320 --> 00:42:48,640
Speaker 3: coming out of high school. The reason he went undrafted though,

780
00:42:49,640 --> 00:42:52,040
Speaker 3: well that was a question. And also a four five

781
00:42:52,120 --> 00:42:56,640
Speaker 3: seven forty thirty two vertical ten three broad jump not

782
00:42:56,719 --> 00:43:01,520
Speaker 3: great explosion there, and that's a reason why goes undrafted.

783
00:43:01,719 --> 00:43:04,120
Speaker 3: There's a whole bunch of wide receivers that are going

784
00:43:04,200 --> 00:43:09,080
Speaker 3: to become available two weeks from tomorrow, and so you

785
00:43:09,160 --> 00:43:11,200
Speaker 3: might be able to slip him through.

786
00:43:11,480 --> 00:43:16,160
Speaker 5: But we'll see not only him, but also Jalen Brooks

787
00:43:16,520 --> 00:43:18,440
Speaker 5: if we can mention him Jalen Brooks, and you talk

788
00:43:18,480 --> 00:43:20,840
Speaker 5: about a guy that can do it on special teams,

789
00:43:20,840 --> 00:43:24,320
Speaker 5: you know what, he could be a gunner for you.

790
00:43:24,320 --> 00:43:26,120
Speaker 5: You know, I think it's a curious case for this

791
00:43:26,160 --> 00:43:28,760
Speaker 5: guy holding and if he can continue to make plays

792
00:43:28,800 --> 00:43:31,719
Speaker 5: like this again all the whispers coming out of ox

793
00:43:31,800 --> 00:43:34,160
Speaker 5: N artists, he's putting a lot of pressure on guys

794
00:43:34,160 --> 00:43:36,319
Speaker 5: that have been comfortable with being on this on this

795
00:43:36,440 --> 00:43:39,400
Speaker 5: roster but not making any plays from the you know,

796
00:43:39,520 --> 00:43:42,760
Speaker 5: fifth and fourth wide receiver standpoints. So there's some jobs

797
00:43:42,760 --> 00:43:44,560
Speaker 5: in danger if he continues to play like this.

798
00:43:45,520 --> 00:43:49,439
Speaker 2: My thing is practice is one thing. I gotta see

799
00:43:49,520 --> 00:43:52,440
Speaker 2: something in the game. I just remember when me and

800
00:43:52,520 --> 00:43:56,160
Speaker 2: Mike came out, Mike Down showed himself on the practice field,

801
00:43:56,440 --> 00:44:00,920
Speaker 2: and he showed himself in the game immediately. Special teams

802
00:44:01,800 --> 00:44:05,200
Speaker 2: Mike Down's first play they made block the punt. He

803
00:44:05,280 --> 00:44:07,920
Speaker 2: made that in the game. You see. So I'm not

804
00:44:08,000 --> 00:44:11,520
Speaker 2: talking about potential or in the practice field. I'm talking

805
00:44:11,560 --> 00:44:15,799
Speaker 2: about playing in a ball game, making plays in the game.

806
00:44:16,160 --> 00:44:19,480
Speaker 2: I don't care about practice. I'm talking about making plays

807
00:44:19,960 --> 00:44:22,400
Speaker 2: in the game which showed me that you can do something.

808
00:44:22,760 --> 00:44:25,120
Speaker 2: Guys like that. We knew they came out right away

809
00:44:25,160 --> 00:44:27,560
Speaker 2: making plays in the preseason games.

810
00:44:27,680 --> 00:44:31,359
Speaker 5: Ever, Sen then it's something when they turn the score

811
00:44:31,440 --> 00:44:33,040
Speaker 5: clock on, God's changed.

812
00:44:33,719 --> 00:44:35,440
Speaker 2: I don't know what. The only thing happened was they

813
00:44:35,480 --> 00:44:39,040
Speaker 2: turned the scoreboard on. But I think it's like when

814
00:44:39,040 --> 00:44:41,799
Speaker 2: you when like in the gym, like when I play basketball,

815
00:44:42,200 --> 00:44:43,919
Speaker 2: there's one thing they ought to be in your gym.

816
00:44:43,960 --> 00:44:46,239
Speaker 2: But then when you go to a big gym at

817
00:44:46,239 --> 00:44:48,840
Speaker 2: a big school, all of a sudden, the basket looks different,

818
00:44:49,239 --> 00:44:51,840
Speaker 2: the depth perception is different. All of a sudden, everything changes.

819
00:44:52,120 --> 00:44:55,160
Speaker 2: The lights are brighter, and that's where you find your

820
00:44:55,200 --> 00:44:59,160
Speaker 2: players when you have those kind of issues, the ones

821
00:44:59,200 --> 00:45:02,719
Speaker 2: that can adjust that, and who am not afraid, and

822
00:45:02,760 --> 00:45:06,200
Speaker 2: the whole idea, the whole mindset is, I am not

823
00:45:06,320 --> 00:45:07,000
Speaker 2: going to fail.

824
00:45:07,120 --> 00:45:10,719
Speaker 5: You know who comes to mind Israel mccuonma is He

825
00:45:10,800 --> 00:45:17,640
Speaker 5: mccona because it were never twenty four right, hadn't heard

826
00:45:17,640 --> 00:45:19,879
Speaker 5: anything about him and practice had it and then all

827
00:45:19,880 --> 00:45:21,080
Speaker 5: of a sudden he makes it out.

828
00:45:21,120 --> 00:45:22,560
Speaker 3: Does it every season.

829
00:45:24,320 --> 00:45:24,600
Speaker 2: All right?

830
00:45:24,640 --> 00:45:26,000
Speaker 3: Make you wrap it up for us.

831
00:45:29,360 --> 00:45:33,600
Speaker 4: So the bottom line to this whole thing is that

832
00:45:33,680 --> 00:45:36,319
Speaker 4: when we were talking about you know, who played and

833
00:45:36,360 --> 00:45:41,720
Speaker 4: who didn't play, when uh, they get into a real

834
00:45:41,840 --> 00:45:45,520
Speaker 4: game with the real players in there and somebody gets

835
00:45:45,600 --> 00:45:49,640
Speaker 4: hurt and it's like, Okay, t J. Bass, you're in

836
00:45:49,719 --> 00:45:54,240
Speaker 4: the ball game, right. But he's not bringing Sadiq Charles

837
00:45:54,960 --> 00:45:58,839
Speaker 4: uh with him. He's not bringing brock Hoffmann with him,

838
00:45:59,120 --> 00:46:02,640
Speaker 4: he's not bringing I Dentergy with them. It's just one

839
00:46:02,719 --> 00:46:06,800
Speaker 4: guy going in to fill a spot. So it's hard

840
00:46:06,880 --> 00:46:10,680
Speaker 4: to judge a lot of this when you're playing a

841
00:46:10,800 --> 00:46:15,719
Speaker 4: whole unit of backups, right, So I think you got

842
00:46:15,719 --> 00:46:21,000
Speaker 4: to be able to see the starters in there, and

843
00:46:21,080 --> 00:46:24,040
Speaker 4: then you can talk about the system. Then you can

844
00:46:24,120 --> 00:46:27,880
Speaker 4: talk about the talent, but when you're playing backups, and

845
00:46:27,960 --> 00:46:33,520
Speaker 4: I looked at Philadelphia, the entire team was playing with backups, right,

846
00:46:34,120 --> 00:46:38,680
Speaker 4: So I think you just have to kind of at

847
00:46:38,760 --> 00:46:45,960
Speaker 4: ease with the analysis of the whole game, and you

848
00:46:46,120 --> 00:46:49,120
Speaker 4: got to just look at individual players like you guys

849
00:46:49,239 --> 00:46:54,560
Speaker 4: did pointing out Leo File pointing out as a Roku.

850
00:46:55,320 --> 00:46:58,560
Speaker 4: Guys like that. James, Now, he wasn't perfect because he

851
00:46:58,600 --> 00:47:02,439
Speaker 4: missed a couple of coverages, but he saw him make

852
00:47:02,640 --> 00:47:05,759
Speaker 4: some plays and that's what you have to do. But

853
00:47:05,880 --> 00:47:11,080
Speaker 4: you can't judge everybody in a group when that group

854
00:47:11,239 --> 00:47:13,440
Speaker 4: is not going to play, and if it is going

855
00:47:13,520 --> 00:47:15,600
Speaker 4: to play, then you're in trouble.

856
00:47:15,880 --> 00:47:16,279
Speaker 2: All right.

857
00:47:16,360 --> 00:47:20,000
Speaker 3: And by the way, you're speaking of the Eagles, the

858
00:47:20,560 --> 00:47:23,200
Speaker 3: injury coming out of their camp this morning, was it

859
00:47:23,320 --> 00:47:27,439
Speaker 3: yesterday Dickerson. I was just searching to see if there

860
00:47:27,560 --> 00:47:32,200
Speaker 3: was an update. He a leg injury and he was

861
00:47:32,239 --> 00:47:35,200
Speaker 3: carted off from practice yesterday. A Pro Bowl offensive guard

862
00:47:35,200 --> 00:47:37,799
Speaker 3: for them. Wow, so that would be a big So

863
00:47:37,840 --> 00:47:41,759
Speaker 3: we'll see. But I have not seen the game. They

864
00:47:41,800 --> 00:47:44,319
Speaker 3: stopped the game. This was a practice yesterday, And I'm

865
00:47:44,320 --> 00:47:44,920
Speaker 3: talking about.

866
00:47:44,800 --> 00:47:47,799
Speaker 2: They actually stopped a preseason game because someone.

867
00:47:47,719 --> 00:47:51,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, the Detroit game. Yeah yeah, and apparently he's doing

868
00:47:51,560 --> 00:47:56,879
Speaker 3: all right, He's okay yeah, so okay, yeah yeah, all right?

869
00:47:57,280 --> 00:47:59,760
Speaker 3: Does it for this edition of Mixed Shots. How about

870
00:47:59,760 --> 00:48:03,800
Speaker 3: we do it again at eleven o'clock Central Time on Wednesday?

871
00:48:03,840 --> 00:48:04,960
Speaker 2: You want to do that of course?

872
00:48:05,320 --> 00:48:07,760
Speaker 3: All right, thanks for joining us here for Mick Shans,

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