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Speaker 1: was that said there was a helicopter. I don't even

428
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Speaker 1: know who it was either, But yeah, I mean, you

429
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Speaker 1: know what, this is the National Football League. There have

430
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Speaker 1: been great players who have won a championship, and there

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Speaker 1: have been great players who have never won a championship.

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Speaker 1: So you know, it's it's a balancing that, you know,

433
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Speaker 1: you have to stay focused on what you have to do.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I'm sure Andy Reid is probably going you

435
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Speaker 1: know what, right, maybe maybe at the end of the

436
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Speaker 1: game there I should have called the time out. Because

437
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Speaker 1: he didn't call the time out at the end of

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Speaker 1: the game. It's his defense was gas at the end

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Speaker 1: of the game, you're thinking, like, call it. I was saying,

440
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Speaker 1: call the time out, give your guys a breather to

441
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Speaker 1: regroup or something. But you know, those are the things

442
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Speaker 1: that he has to go through this offseason, got to

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Speaker 1: find some better players on defense, probably had to find

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Speaker 1: another running back. I mean, there's those are things that

445
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Speaker 1: guys have in that organization, have to think about this

446
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Speaker 1: whole entire offseason and what's your get back? Man, you

447
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Speaker 1: just have to say, Okay, forget about it. Last year happened.

448
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Speaker 1: Let's focused on this year and go forward. Call Thurman

449
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Speaker 1: Thomas invent about anything you saw yesterday, whether it's rules

450
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Speaker 1: over time, just the Patriots in general, and anything you

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Speaker 1: don't like about them. Eight oh three h five fifty

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Speaker 1: eight to eight five fifty two five fifty Andrew Peters

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Speaker 1: in for John Murphy. Here on one Bills Live with

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Speaker 1: the Legend. Thurman Thomas in for Steve Tasker, and let's

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Speaker 1: grab Jerry in Buffalo. You have a call. We have

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Speaker 1: a call in line Jerry and Buffalo about Andy Reid.

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Speaker 1: Fitting what's your call, Jerry, I'm gentleman, Good afternoon. Enjoy

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Speaker 1: the show. Yeah, I just felt that I'm sitting on

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Speaker 1: my couch. I'm, you know, watching the game. Sammy Watkins

460
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Speaker 1: gets the ball down to about two three yard line.

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Speaker 1: There's lay maybe two twenty less in the game, and

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Speaker 1: I thought, right, there that what Andy Reid had to

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Speaker 1: do was think a couple steps ahead and say, we

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Speaker 1: have to eliminate as much time and they have the

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Speaker 1: Patriots burnout their timeouts before they even consider putting points

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Speaker 1: on the board, because they could have keeped the field

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Speaker 1: goal and tied the game in the least had that

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Speaker 1: if they could have burned a timeout or two of

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Speaker 1: the Patriots that and he eating them a little, uh,

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Speaker 1: play clock, you can time reading less time and let's

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Speaker 1: see what happened. What do you think? Yeah, but you

472
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Speaker 1: you're trying to win. You're trying to win. I mean,

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Speaker 1: you're trying to win a football game at that time.

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Speaker 1: And I understand your point of running some time off

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Speaker 1: the clock or whatever and making them burn the burn

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Speaker 1: their timeouts. But you score a touchdown, you're ahead, score

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Speaker 1: a field goal, you're tied. You're trying to win the

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Speaker 1: football game. Man, I understand what the caller is saying.

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Speaker 1: But um, at that point in time, you're thinking, yeah,

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Speaker 1: well you know what if aren't you thinking a score

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Speaker 1: now is better than a fifty fifty shot in overtime

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Speaker 1: against hurt him much? Point? Like even I'm thinking, even

483
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Speaker 1: I know that that you have a coin toss to lose, basically,

484
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Speaker 1: to lose basically. So yeah, you're you're you know, you're

485
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Speaker 1: you're sitting there and you're well, there's a lot of

486
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Speaker 1: things that got the TV like are you like, what

487
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Speaker 1: are you doing all the time all the time, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: all the time. Yeah, my my my kids and my

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Speaker 1: wife Patty. Then yeah, they turn around and look at

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Speaker 1: me like, well, you're not playing. Just I'm like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I know, but he shouldn't have did that, you know.

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Speaker 1: And then we got got the text message with Bruce

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Speaker 1: and Jim and Andre and Daryl, and we're going in

494
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Speaker 1: the entire two games yesterday. So I'm like, let's get

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Speaker 1: back to what I was talking about the caller. But yeah,

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Speaker 1: I understand your point. But at that point in time,

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Speaker 1: you know, you know, what if the Patriots stuff you

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Speaker 1: on two or three running place um and you don't

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Speaker 1: score and you have to kick a field, you're oh tight,

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Speaker 1: and he's still gonna come down to whoever gets to

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Speaker 1: corn flip. So I mean, at that point in time, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean your score, I don't know. I'm just I'm

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Speaker 1: over that. I'm glad I'm not playing anymore. What do

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Speaker 1: you do when you have two conference championship games on Sunday.

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Speaker 1: You bring in Thurman Thomas to break him down, and

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Speaker 1: he is in studio. Give him a call. Eight oh

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Speaker 1: three oh five fifty eight to eight five fifty two

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Speaker 1: five fifty. We have a couple of calls on the line.

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Speaker 1: We'll get to when we come back from break. I'm

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Speaker 1: Andrew Peters. I'm in for John Murphy. Thurman's in for

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Speaker 1: Steve Tasker on one Bills Live. We'll be right back

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Speaker 1: w g R five fifty and MSG. Okay, Andrew Peters

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Speaker 1: and Thurman Thomas in studio for one Bills Live today

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Speaker 1: on MSG and w g R five fifty and Steve Tasker.

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Speaker 1: There's ice on the wing. Yeah, there's ice on the wing.

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Speaker 1: So they're they're still d icing his plane, and um

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Speaker 1: it's his own plane, so you know, he for a while.

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Speaker 1: They say he's number seven in line there for d icing.

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Speaker 1: But hopefully he arrives soon. Hopefully not. Actually, I'm having

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Speaker 1: a great time with you, Thurman. M call us eight

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Speaker 1: oh three five fifty eighty eight five fifty two five fifty.

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Speaker 1: The man is here, the legend is here, and Thurman's

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Speaker 1: both of those. I'm neither of those, and we want

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Speaker 1: you to call and talk about biggest takeaway from Sunday's

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Speaker 1: AFC and NFC games. Let me just get to the

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Speaker 1: one Bills Live Twitter poll here. So the super Bowl

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Speaker 1: is set um following Sunday's conference championship games. What is

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Speaker 1: your biggest takeaway from yesterday's playoff games? Is it the

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Speaker 1: officiating blunders, Pat's returned to another super Bowl, change ot

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Speaker 1: playoff rules, or three other and uh, there's that's three percent,

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Speaker 1: so that's nothing. So sixty four percent say officiating blunders,

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Speaker 1: ten percent say Pat's return to another super Bowl. At

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Speaker 1: twenty three percent say change ot playoff rules. So what

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Speaker 1: would be your choice? So I have no emotion in

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Speaker 1: this right. So I'm watching. I'm watching the Patriots game,

536
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Speaker 1: and trust me when I say this, I'm rooting for

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Speaker 1: the Chiefs only because of Bill's Nation. Okay, I know,

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Speaker 1: because I just I know how much Buffalo sports fans,

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Speaker 1: and you know, I say Buffalo, But I feel like

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Speaker 1: the Paths have beat the crap out of everybody for

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Speaker 1: the last everybod years. So I feel like everybody other

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Speaker 1: than Pat's nation is rooting for the Chiefs. The Chiefs

543
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Speaker 1: probably the largest football following in the history of one

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Speaker 1: game yesterday, if I you know, for one conference championship game,

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Speaker 1: But what would be your choice? You know what? Neither

546
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Speaker 1: lease any of my choice. I'm gonna go with other,

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Speaker 1: with the three percent and the other. It will be

548
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Speaker 1: how much longer Tom Brady will play? And how much

549
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Speaker 1: longer will Tom Brady? Does he win and wheel off

550
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Speaker 1: into the sunset? Or does he think he just annoys

551
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Speaker 1: the hell out of everybody and plays another few years?

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Speaker 1: When you're that great, that'll be his yea back to

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Speaker 1: back and Manny did Peyton, Manny did, Yes, he did

554
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Speaker 1: the Broncos both. He walked the Broncos too, right with

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Speaker 1: the Broncos. Yeah, how competitive this guy is? I don't

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Speaker 1: if he wins six super Bowls in two weeks, number six,

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Speaker 1: I think he's gonna want to win number seven. I

558
00:28:38,360 --> 00:28:42,080
Speaker 1: don't know what guy. There is no signs of him

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Speaker 1: slowing down whatsoever. No signs of him slowing down. And

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Speaker 1: to your point before that, yeah, it's not just the

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Speaker 1: Bills and the AFC that he destroys. He destroys everybody. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: think about it. I mean his winning record. I don't

563
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Speaker 1: know if Jacob pull it up, but his winning record,

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Speaker 1: his winning percentage. I mean, I don't think the guy's

565
00:29:05,040 --> 00:29:08,720
Speaker 1: lost over what fifty or sixty games throughout his entire career,

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Speaker 1: which spans what eighteen years. That's incredible, incredible. Yeah, I

567
00:29:16,480 --> 00:29:18,600
Speaker 1: don't get I don't get it. And then throws that

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Speaker 1: he was making yesterday to Edelman over the middle they

569
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Speaker 1: were pulling on. Well, I'm not gonna sit here and

570
00:29:24,200 --> 00:29:27,160
Speaker 1: and bluff football talk with you, okay, But I mean

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Speaker 1: I watched closely yesterday and I just I remember, first

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Speaker 1: of all, Tony Romo calling the game. I don't know

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Speaker 1: your thoughts on Tony Romo in the game, but this

574
00:29:36,120 --> 00:29:39,600
Speaker 1: guy calls every play before it even happens. He should

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Speaker 1: have retired five years ago and started announcing. He's outstanding.

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Speaker 1: But here's a question that I have for you. If

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Speaker 1: you have a guy like Tony Romo up in the

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Speaker 1: booth and I'm watching the game, he's like, oh, watch

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Speaker 1: out for Gronk on the outside here, and Tom Brady

580
00:29:52,640 --> 00:29:54,920
Speaker 1: throws to Gronk or oh he just he read blitz

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Speaker 1: because he called audible and they handed off, and he's

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Speaker 1: calling this stuff. How come you don't have how come

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Speaker 1: teams haven't gone and paid a guy like Tony Romo

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Speaker 1: X amount of money to go upstairs and sit next

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Speaker 1: to the defensive court. I think I think it's more

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Speaker 1: than just Tom Brady. I think you have to look

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Speaker 1: at Josh McDaniel's offensive coordinator. You know, when you're putting

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Speaker 1: in these plays like this, these plays are we call

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Speaker 1: him check with me. You call a couple of plays

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Speaker 1: in a huddle, and if he gets to the line

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Speaker 1: of scrimmage and he sees something different, yeah, it's called

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Speaker 1: check with me. Check with me. Whether we're gonna run

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Speaker 1: to the left or where they're gonna run to the right,

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Speaker 1: or we're gonna pass the ball. That's all that really is.

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Speaker 1: So I can understand when Tony Romo says, yeah, he's

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Speaker 1: gonna throw the Gronk. Well, if you look at the

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Speaker 1: alignment of the defense, if they have one safety and

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Speaker 1: that's safety is in the middle of the field and

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Speaker 1: Gronk is on the left side, one on one, yeah

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Speaker 1: you throw it to Gronk. I mean he's over these

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Speaker 1: six to five. Eric Barry is maybe five to eleven.

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Speaker 1: That's the best matchup that you have. I understand. Of

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Speaker 1: Rob Gronkowski. I am in awe of this guy. And

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Speaker 1: there's another guy that you just see again, just get like.

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Speaker 1: I know he's big, and I know how strong he is,

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Speaker 1: but bigger man hall a fall harder. He looks like

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Speaker 1: like a He looks tired, he looks run down, he

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Speaker 1: looks physically, he looks he looks beat down. And Edelman

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Speaker 1: looks the same. I mean when he gets up after

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Speaker 1: every head his eyes are squinting and he just he

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Speaker 1: can see like, yeah, how he didn't pop his shoulder

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Speaker 1: out on that hit. I'm behind yesterday. I'm in awe

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Speaker 1: of these guys. Yeah, I mean you look at Rob Gronkowski.

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Speaker 1: I mean even for the last the last couple of years,

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Speaker 1: he's been he's been beat up really bad. I mean

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Speaker 1: you look at the game that they played against the Charges.

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Speaker 1: I don't think he caught one pass. He was more

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Speaker 1: of a blocker blocker than anything. But I can you

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Speaker 1: can see the way he gets up, the way he

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Speaker 1: runs now that this football has taken a toll on

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Speaker 1: his body, doesn't his willingness to play all those positions

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Speaker 1: kind of lead to all those issues. Because you saw

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Speaker 1: him with that big block late in the game too.

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Speaker 1: You know he had and you just think, here's a

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Speaker 1: guy that every time you see him go up for

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Speaker 1: a ball, he comes down hard on hard side, and

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Speaker 1: or he gets smoked while he's up in the air,

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Speaker 1: and you just think, that's got to take a toll

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Speaker 1: on guy. Now he's blocking and do all this other stuff.

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Speaker 1: I mean, anyway, let's grab some calls. Eight oh three,

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Speaker 1: five fifty eight to eighty five fifty two, five fifty.

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Speaker 1: It's not too often that people can just call in

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Speaker 1: and talk to legend Thurman Thomas's so, as I mentioned,

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Speaker 1: let's grab we had a call right here. I scrolled

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Speaker 1: down too far. Jay's in the rundown. Hey, he's just

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Speaker 1: typing stuff from the non stop. Here Charles and Clarence.

637
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Speaker 1: Charles and Clarence. Let's grab Charles. You're on the line.

638
00:32:34,720 --> 00:32:38,280
Speaker 1: Charles is gone. Who's our next call? Jay pat from Lockport.

639
00:32:38,320 --> 00:32:40,640
Speaker 1: Let's grab Patent Lockport. Here, you're on the line with

640
00:32:40,640 --> 00:32:43,840
Speaker 1: Thurman Thomas. What do you got, Pat Well? I thought

641
00:32:44,360 --> 00:32:48,840
Speaker 1: just officiating on both games decided the game. And I'm

642
00:32:49,280 --> 00:32:52,880
Speaker 1: really tired of hearing about Tom Brady. Fifty three guys

643
00:32:52,960 --> 00:32:56,120
Speaker 1: play in a football game, Matt one, Tom Brady, This

644
00:32:56,360 --> 00:32:59,320
Speaker 1: Tom Brady that I don't know. I don't know. I

645
00:32:59,760 --> 00:33:02,560
Speaker 1: hear better Bill's fan in you and I agree, I

646
00:33:02,680 --> 00:33:04,920
Speaker 1: agree with you, like I don't want to hear it either,

647
00:33:05,160 --> 00:33:09,280
Speaker 1: pat But it's but listen, I'm a non football guy, Okay,

648
00:33:09,480 --> 00:33:12,920
Speaker 1: but I like, I'm gonna tell you have to appreciate

649
00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:16,880
Speaker 1: the greatness the dominance. It's I'm not gonna say it's

650
00:33:16,920 --> 00:33:20,680
Speaker 1: unstoppable because he's been stopped. But Thurman, well, look look

651
00:33:20,720 --> 00:33:25,320
Speaker 1: at the offensive line yesterday for the Patriots. Brady got

652
00:33:25,360 --> 00:33:29,200
Speaker 1: touched once and it was barely touched, and they called

653
00:33:29,240 --> 00:33:33,440
Speaker 1: it roughing the passer. Mahomes got hit low but below

654
00:33:33,560 --> 00:33:37,680
Speaker 1: the knees, which is illegal. If that happened to Brady,

655
00:33:37,960 --> 00:33:40,000
Speaker 1: a guarantee of that guy would have got thrown out

656
00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:42,680
Speaker 1: of the game. Well, they did call a personal file

657
00:33:42,760 --> 00:33:46,240
Speaker 1: roughing the quarterback on that guy from hitting Mahomes. No,

658
00:33:46,400 --> 00:33:50,040
Speaker 1: I mean, look, we can sit up here and whether

659
00:33:50,040 --> 00:33:52,920
Speaker 1: you like Tom Brady or not, he's probably the greatest

660
00:33:52,920 --> 00:33:58,080
Speaker 1: football player I ever play the game, especially at that position. Now,

661
00:33:58,240 --> 00:34:01,480
Speaker 1: others will probably argue with Rice being the greatest or

662
00:34:01,560 --> 00:34:04,200
Speaker 1: Joe Montana, but you look at the course of sports,

663
00:34:04,400 --> 00:34:07,200
Speaker 1: we all said this about Michael Jordan. We're saying it

664
00:34:07,280 --> 00:34:10,759
Speaker 1: right now about Lebron James being the greatest. I mean,

665
00:34:11,880 --> 00:34:15,919
Speaker 1: if it's there, you have to respect. Though, I feel

666
00:34:16,080 --> 00:34:18,920
Speaker 1: I feel like it's funny that you bring this up.

667
00:34:19,719 --> 00:34:23,879
Speaker 1: You see Joe Montana probably before Brady the greatest quarterback ever,

668
00:34:23,960 --> 00:34:26,800
Speaker 1: would you say? And I And then you have Tom Brady,

669
00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:29,279
Speaker 1: But then you bring up Jordan and Lebron, and I

670
00:34:29,320 --> 00:34:33,200
Speaker 1: feel like everyone idolizes Jordan, they love him, and they

671
00:34:33,239 --> 00:34:36,279
Speaker 1: all hate Lebron, right, and I feel like everyone loves

672
00:34:36,320 --> 00:34:38,640
Speaker 1: and Rib and I were talking about this before. We're like,

673
00:34:38,640 --> 00:34:42,959
Speaker 1: why does everybody love Joe Montana but they hate they

674
00:34:43,040 --> 00:34:46,240
Speaker 1: hate Tom Brady? You know? And I mean you're sitting

675
00:34:46,239 --> 00:34:48,600
Speaker 1: there and you're thinking yourself, it's a it's a it's

676
00:34:48,640 --> 00:34:51,520
Speaker 1: a it's a strange comparison. But I feel like like

677
00:34:51,800 --> 00:34:55,600
Speaker 1: Lebron and uh, Michael Jordan could be very similar because

678
00:34:55,760 --> 00:34:57,839
Speaker 1: I'm not a Lebron fan, but I love Michael Jordan.

679
00:34:58,200 --> 00:34:59,839
Speaker 1: I don't know why I don't like Lebron. I don't

680
00:34:59,840 --> 00:35:02,040
Speaker 1: know if it's because he comes across as well. Pat,

681
00:35:02,080 --> 00:35:05,200
Speaker 1: you're still there. Sorry, I've been on an even even

682
00:35:05,320 --> 00:35:09,520
Speaker 1: teel here, you know, it's uh. If I had to

683
00:35:09,560 --> 00:35:13,120
Speaker 1: stick of the of the quarterbacks I've seen in my lifetime,

684
00:35:13,440 --> 00:35:17,120
Speaker 1: there's five guys I picked against Tom ahead of Tom Brady.

685
00:35:17,560 --> 00:35:23,240
Speaker 1: Marino was better, Kelly was better. The list goes. Manning

686
00:35:23,440 --> 00:35:27,800
Speaker 1: was better. I think. I think right now Drew Brees

687
00:35:27,960 --> 00:35:31,440
Speaker 1: is better. Brady's got a much better line. I mean,

688
00:35:31,480 --> 00:35:33,480
Speaker 1: you look at the line that they have on the

689
00:35:33,520 --> 00:35:36,840
Speaker 1: New England Patriots. You've got to consider the team. The

690
00:35:36,920 --> 00:35:39,560
Speaker 1: team is the best ever, not Tom Brady. He's not

691
00:35:39,640 --> 00:35:42,239
Speaker 1: throwing some chump names out you there, Thurman, He's got some.

692
00:35:42,320 --> 00:35:44,279
Speaker 1: He's got an argument. Is it like, could some of

693
00:35:44,280 --> 00:35:48,560
Speaker 1: those guys you know, potentially maybe not have the resume,

694
00:35:48,640 --> 00:35:50,960
Speaker 1: but be better than Brady or you? You just flat

695
00:35:50,960 --> 00:35:52,960
Speaker 1: out saying no. I just flat out saying no. And

696
00:35:53,080 --> 00:35:55,400
Speaker 1: even threw your your buddy in there too, Jim, And

697
00:35:55,480 --> 00:35:58,880
Speaker 1: I mean, well, even Jim thinks that Tom Brady is

698
00:35:58,920 --> 00:36:01,200
Speaker 1: the greatest of all time. He does. I get it

699
00:36:01,280 --> 00:36:04,320
Speaker 1: right here on the text. He said it yesterday in

700
00:36:04,440 --> 00:36:07,000
Speaker 1: the two minute drill. He was like, dude, never cut

701
00:36:07,040 --> 00:36:09,600
Speaker 1: out the twitter, never cut out the goat, never cut

702
00:36:09,600 --> 00:36:12,960
Speaker 1: out number twelve and Will wolferbet him and he lost. Well,

703
00:36:13,040 --> 00:36:18,879
Speaker 1: she's saying like twelve in general Sally talking about Tom Brady.

704
00:36:19,080 --> 00:36:22,080
Speaker 1: And if you have, if you anybody seat Jim out there,

705
00:36:22,560 --> 00:36:25,120
Speaker 1: ask him. He'll tell you who's the greatest quarterback of

706
00:36:25,160 --> 00:36:29,280
Speaker 1: all time? He'll say Tom Brady. One Bill's live, Thurman Thomas,

707
00:36:29,360 --> 00:36:32,600
Speaker 1: Andrew Peters call a Sato three h five fifty eighty eight,

708
00:36:32,680 --> 00:36:35,400
Speaker 1: five fifty two, five fifty. When was the last time

709
00:36:35,440 --> 00:36:37,880
Speaker 1: you ever thought you'd call in vent about the Patriots?

710
00:36:37,880 --> 00:36:40,120
Speaker 1: The Thurman Thomas? And that time is right now? Why

711
00:36:40,160 --> 00:36:42,040
Speaker 1: are we even doing that? Why are we doing because

712
00:36:42,200 --> 00:36:46,000
Speaker 1: what do you mean? We're in Buffalo Nation. People. As

713
00:36:46,080 --> 00:36:48,080
Speaker 1: much as people hate the Patriots, that's all we talk

714
00:36:48,120 --> 00:36:51,920
Speaker 1: about here? Is it not the truth? Right? Leave it alone?

715
00:36:52,080 --> 00:36:59,560
Speaker 1: I mean this place talk about Tom Brady and former

716
00:36:59,640 --> 00:37:02,840
Speaker 1: player that played here more than anybody I've ever seen before.

717
00:37:03,640 --> 00:37:06,760
Speaker 1: They don't play here anymore. Give it a break. Well,

718
00:37:07,120 --> 00:37:10,040
Speaker 1: they still talk about July first, two thousand and seven

719
00:37:10,080 --> 00:37:12,360
Speaker 1: when Drury and Vre left two So yeah, well I

720
00:37:12,400 --> 00:37:16,160
Speaker 1: still talk about it. There are there are heartbreaking moments

721
00:37:16,200 --> 00:37:18,080
Speaker 1: that you know they are still We're still bleeding a

722
00:37:18,120 --> 00:37:21,319
Speaker 1: little bit around here. All right, let's grab doc in

723
00:37:21,440 --> 00:37:24,600
Speaker 1: Depew call eight h three h five fifty eight eighty

724
00:37:24,600 --> 00:37:28,160
Speaker 1: five fifty two five fifty Andrew Peters and Thurman Thomas

725
00:37:28,239 --> 00:37:31,720
Speaker 1: right here on one Bill's Live. What's up, Doc, Hey guys,

726
00:37:31,719 --> 00:37:35,240
Speaker 1: good to see you. Um. I'd like to complain about

727
00:37:35,239 --> 00:37:38,160
Speaker 1: the officiating. First of all, I think it's time to

728
00:37:38,239 --> 00:37:40,440
Speaker 1: get the goal watchers out and get rid of some

729
00:37:40,480 --> 00:37:43,719
Speaker 1: of these gray birds. I think they should recruit from

730
00:37:43,719 --> 00:37:47,680
Speaker 1: the college ranks, kids that have played in major college,

731
00:37:47,680 --> 00:37:49,760
Speaker 1: Folks that aren't going to play in the Natural Football

732
00:37:49,840 --> 00:37:52,640
Speaker 1: League but would still like to stay active in the Spurts,

733
00:37:52,920 --> 00:37:58,640
Speaker 1: young eyes, young legs. The replay is ridiculous. It's like

734
00:37:59,080 --> 00:38:02,359
Speaker 1: it flows the game down so much, and let's just

735
00:38:02,440 --> 00:38:04,440
Speaker 1: go back to making a call and living with it.

736
00:38:04,920 --> 00:38:08,080
Speaker 1: I feel though, and and I know he's calling it.

737
00:38:08,120 --> 00:38:12,200
Speaker 1: I feel though, if you made every right call, well,

738
00:38:12,239 --> 00:38:14,120
Speaker 1: I mean, the game has slowed down so much right

739
00:38:14,160 --> 00:38:17,479
Speaker 1: now with reviews. I mean, like I just they feel

740
00:38:17,520 --> 00:38:19,680
Speaker 1: like every right call is going to slow the game down.

741
00:38:20,120 --> 00:38:22,160
Speaker 1: You miss a call, it's gonna slow the game down.

742
00:38:22,239 --> 00:38:24,160
Speaker 1: I think it's damned if you do, damned if you don't.

743
00:38:24,160 --> 00:38:26,279
Speaker 1: I mean, they don't miss anything anymore. And that's why

744
00:38:26,320 --> 00:38:29,320
Speaker 1: the games are What are we gonna say. Here's my argument.

745
00:38:29,640 --> 00:38:33,319
Speaker 1: Let's hear this particular sport generates more money than I

746
00:38:33,360 --> 00:38:37,160
Speaker 1: think any professional sport in the world. Yes, and we're

747
00:38:37,280 --> 00:38:42,319
Speaker 1: using part time officials. Every other sport has full time officials.

748
00:38:43,320 --> 00:38:46,240
Speaker 1: They work during the season, during offseason. I studied film,

749
00:38:46,640 --> 00:38:49,040
Speaker 1: they do clinics, and I think this is what should

750
00:38:49,040 --> 00:38:51,000
Speaker 1: happen with the national films. What are they gonna do

751
00:38:51,080 --> 00:38:56,040
Speaker 1: with the other six days and and twenty hours of

752
00:38:56,160 --> 00:39:00,400
Speaker 1: their week? Recap their old plays that they miss. No,

753
00:39:00,719 --> 00:39:04,440
Speaker 1: look at film, look at call, go to go to

754
00:39:04,480 --> 00:39:07,560
Speaker 1: a practice and explain things in more depth what they're

755
00:39:07,600 --> 00:39:10,960
Speaker 1: looking for. Um, you can start these guys out with

756
00:39:11,040 --> 00:39:13,399
Speaker 1: some benefits and maybe one hundred thousand dollars a year

757
00:39:13,400 --> 00:39:15,400
Speaker 1: and work their way up. Hell I would. I'd have

758
00:39:15,400 --> 00:39:19,200
Speaker 1: done it in the heartbeat when I graduate from college. Yeah,

759
00:39:19,400 --> 00:39:23,080
Speaker 1: all right, well, I appreciate that. I appreciate the call. Um.

760
00:39:23,120 --> 00:39:24,879
Speaker 1: I do have a question. Do you want to answer that?

761
00:39:25,560 --> 00:39:28,319
Speaker 1: Did we answer it? I don't know. Did we think

762
00:39:28,360 --> 00:39:31,640
Speaker 1: it's about officiating? I mean, what do you I'll ask

763
00:39:31,680 --> 00:39:34,799
Speaker 1: you ad more officiating to the game, officials to the game.

764
00:39:35,000 --> 00:39:37,879
Speaker 1: You ask that question, and I detect some sarcasm when

765
00:39:37,920 --> 00:39:40,200
Speaker 1: you ask it. I'm going to ask you a legitimate question.

766
00:39:40,280 --> 00:39:43,759
Speaker 1: I thought this about hockey, and I feel it about football,

767
00:39:44,280 --> 00:39:47,359
Speaker 1: and it's especially those contact sports. I'll tell you my

768
00:39:47,719 --> 00:39:50,120
Speaker 1: h I'll ask my question when we come back, because

769
00:39:50,400 --> 00:39:53,080
Speaker 1: it's it's ridiculous and it's out of the box. But

770
00:39:53,160 --> 00:39:55,920
Speaker 1: I think with watching the stupidity that took place yesterday,

771
00:39:55,920 --> 00:39:58,319
Speaker 1: with the overtime and the penalties and some of the

772
00:39:58,360 --> 00:40:01,719
Speaker 1: plays that happens in the NHL are missed, I have

773
00:40:01,800 --> 00:40:03,879
Speaker 1: an idea. Tell you what you tell you to get

774
00:40:03,960 --> 00:40:07,120
Speaker 1: Thurman Thomas's thoughts on my ridiculous thought when we return.

775
00:40:07,239 --> 00:40:10,120
Speaker 1: Right here, One Bills Live, Andrew Peterson for John Murphy,

776
00:40:10,360 --> 00:40:12,759
Speaker 1: Thurman Thomas in for Steve Tasker. We'll be right back

777
00:40:12,920 --> 00:40:32,799
Speaker 1: w g R five fifty MSG. All right, welcome back,

778
00:40:32,840 --> 00:40:36,400
Speaker 1: One Bills Live, Andrew Peterson for John Murphy, Thurman Thomas

779
00:40:36,480 --> 00:40:39,520
Speaker 1: in for Steve Tasker. Coming up next hour, we will

780
00:40:39,560 --> 00:40:42,520
Speaker 1: have Lorenzo Alexander looking forward to chatting with him. I

781
00:40:42,520 --> 00:40:45,400
Speaker 1: don't know, Thurman, if you're sticking around or you're gonna bolt,

782
00:40:45,480 --> 00:40:49,680
Speaker 1: but uh well, then with that before you go shoveling,

783
00:40:49,719 --> 00:40:52,359
Speaker 1: i'd like to ask you about your friend Jim Kelly

784
00:40:52,560 --> 00:40:54,600
Speaker 1: and what's the update on him and his health. Jim

785
00:40:54,680 --> 00:40:58,120
Speaker 1: is doing well. He just had another MRI last week.

786
00:40:59,160 --> 00:41:05,480
Speaker 1: Doctor said, camp so free, so he's very happy about that. Yeah, um, no,

787
00:41:05,640 --> 00:41:07,879
Speaker 1: he's doing good. I mean he was really all into

788
00:41:07,920 --> 00:41:11,560
Speaker 1: the text yesterday for the AFC at NFC Championship games,

789
00:41:11,560 --> 00:41:14,440
Speaker 1: you know, like we went for you know, six hours

790
00:41:14,840 --> 00:41:18,520
Speaker 1: throughout those entire games, and Jim is doing well, feeling

791
00:41:18,560 --> 00:41:21,080
Speaker 1: well at home with his wife Jill, and uh, yeah,

792
00:41:21,160 --> 00:41:24,440
Speaker 1: he's um. You know that guy there. You know, he

793
00:41:24,560 --> 00:41:28,160
Speaker 1: was saying a lot yesterday between the guys or whatever,

794
00:41:28,280 --> 00:41:31,239
Speaker 1: and just to hear him talk, you know, I mean,

795
00:41:31,320 --> 00:41:34,400
Speaker 1: just to hear him words, he was, Yeah, just a

796
00:41:34,400 --> 00:41:36,880
Speaker 1: different move to him. You know, he was really upbeating

797
00:41:37,000 --> 00:41:39,759
Speaker 1: just really feeling good, you know, and uh, you know

798
00:41:39,800 --> 00:41:41,680
Speaker 1: he kind of brought back and hey, guys, remember that

799
00:41:41,719 --> 00:41:43,480
Speaker 1: time we beat the Raiders fifty one to three year

800
00:41:43,480 --> 00:41:45,680
Speaker 1: and the US Championship game, you know, and we were

801
00:41:45,719 --> 00:41:47,759
Speaker 1: talking about something totally different and after blue that's what

802
00:41:47,880 --> 00:41:50,200
Speaker 1: he came and said. We were like, yeah, yeah, that's cool.

803
00:41:50,239 --> 00:41:52,080
Speaker 1: You know, He's like, man, I would love to have

804
00:41:52,120 --> 00:41:54,640
Speaker 1: those days back here in Buffalo. We wouldn't we all.

805
00:41:54,760 --> 00:41:57,719
Speaker 1: I'm like and I'm like, gee, I'm like Jim, so

806
00:41:57,840 --> 00:41:59,759
Speaker 1: we need the bills and the savers to be like

807
00:42:00,000 --> 00:42:03,360
Speaker 1: I would. Yeah, you know, so no, uh yeah, I

808
00:42:03,400 --> 00:42:06,239
Speaker 1: can just everybody continue to pray for Jim, like you

809
00:42:06,320 --> 00:42:08,279
Speaker 1: guys have you know ever since you know he had

810
00:42:08,280 --> 00:42:11,600
Speaker 1: about Wick Camps. And so I'll say this and I'll

811
00:42:11,640 --> 00:42:15,600
Speaker 1: always say this, And I I admire um from Afar

812
00:42:15,880 --> 00:42:18,720
Speaker 1: and obviously knowing you and having the pleasure of meeting

813
00:42:18,760 --> 00:42:20,840
Speaker 1: Jim and some of the other guys that you guys all,

814
00:42:21,280 --> 00:42:24,879
Speaker 1: I admire your closeness. I you know, I have some

815
00:42:24,960 --> 00:42:28,520
Speaker 1: friends that I'm very close with that hockey brought us together. Um,

816
00:42:29,000 --> 00:42:32,880
Speaker 1: But there's a there's a and it's it wasn't Jim's

817
00:42:32,880 --> 00:42:35,480
Speaker 1: illness either. You guys were there, but I feel before

818
00:42:35,560 --> 00:42:38,799
Speaker 1: all all were there right after. I remember seeing a

819
00:42:38,840 --> 00:42:41,040
Speaker 1: picture of all of you together with him when he

820
00:42:41,040 --> 00:42:44,040
Speaker 1: first found out the news years ago. And I've always

821
00:42:44,080 --> 00:42:46,160
Speaker 1: admired and all you know, and I'll be honest with you

822
00:42:46,120 --> 00:42:48,400
Speaker 1: you a little envious of you, of the relationship that

823
00:42:48,520 --> 00:42:51,520
Speaker 1: all of you have. It's such a it's such a unique,

824
00:42:51,920 --> 00:42:55,359
Speaker 1: tight knit group that I don't think people in the

825
00:42:55,400 --> 00:42:57,640
Speaker 1: real world, and I say that respectfully, I don't think

826
00:42:57,640 --> 00:43:01,600
Speaker 1: they really understand or experience. Yeah, it's um, it's been

827
00:43:01,640 --> 00:43:04,840
Speaker 1: a great relationship. And this started, you know back in

828
00:43:04,880 --> 00:43:07,520
Speaker 1: the years when we were playing. I mean it really did.

829
00:43:07,719 --> 00:43:10,719
Speaker 1: And as the years went by, Uh, and then we

830
00:43:10,760 --> 00:43:14,440
Speaker 1: found out about Jim. Um even before that, you know,

831
00:43:14,560 --> 00:43:17,600
Speaker 1: Hunter his son. You know, we were close then. And

832
00:43:17,600 --> 00:43:21,080
Speaker 1: then with Jim, uh, you know head is about with cancer.

833
00:43:21,120 --> 00:43:24,600
Speaker 1: You know, We've always been a tight knit group. Um.

834
00:43:24,880 --> 00:43:26,719
Speaker 1: You know we would continue to be that way. I

835
00:43:26,719 --> 00:43:28,799
Speaker 1: mean when we go to the Hall of Fame, you know,

836
00:43:28,880 --> 00:43:32,080
Speaker 1: we as Bills player and every Bills that been in

837
00:43:32,160 --> 00:43:35,600
Speaker 1: this organization down from Marv Levy to Bill Polion, we

838
00:43:35,680 --> 00:43:38,920
Speaker 1: sit at our own table, nothing full of Bills and

839
00:43:39,040 --> 00:43:41,319
Speaker 1: just all of us. And we started that about five

840
00:43:41,400 --> 00:43:45,319
Speaker 1: years ago. And now every team does it. Now you

841
00:43:45,400 --> 00:43:48,359
Speaker 1: have the Bills here, you have the Cowboys here, you

842
00:43:48,440 --> 00:43:51,879
Speaker 1: have the Patriots here, the Steelers over there. I mean, so,

843
00:43:52,320 --> 00:43:54,440
Speaker 1: I mean we've always been like that, and uh, you

844
00:43:54,480 --> 00:43:57,359
Speaker 1: know the bond between us guys. Um, Uh, it's just

845
00:43:57,560 --> 00:44:00,400
Speaker 1: it gets stronger every single day, every single year. Have

846
00:44:00,520 --> 00:44:04,200
Speaker 1: you been back to the Hall of Fame. Uh, since

847
00:44:04,239 --> 00:44:06,520
Speaker 1: you've been inductors. I go back every year. I go

848
00:44:06,560 --> 00:44:08,400
Speaker 1: back every just as a member of the Hall of

849
00:44:08,400 --> 00:44:12,319
Speaker 1: Fame's Yeah, we go back, and you know, it's it's

850
00:44:12,320 --> 00:44:14,359
Speaker 1: a fun time for guys that are in the Hall

851
00:44:14,400 --> 00:44:17,279
Speaker 1: of Fame to see the newcomers coming in. You know,

852
00:44:17,400 --> 00:44:20,000
Speaker 1: it's really really exciting, do you think. And I say that,

853
00:44:20,040 --> 00:44:22,160
Speaker 1: I say this obviously former athlete with a son and

854
00:44:22,480 --> 00:44:25,320
Speaker 1: nowhere near the career in hockey that you had in football,

855
00:44:25,360 --> 00:44:30,480
Speaker 1: But your kids understand, um, what you did as a

856
00:44:30,480 --> 00:44:32,800
Speaker 1: as a player. I mean, oh yeah, like yeah, I

857
00:44:32,880 --> 00:44:35,000
Speaker 1: mean obviously the stories, but they were too young when

858
00:44:35,000 --> 00:44:37,920
Speaker 1: you were playing, right, I mean, yeah, My my youngest son,

859
00:44:38,040 --> 00:44:42,279
Speaker 1: my son, he's the only one that didn't get see

860
00:44:42,360 --> 00:44:45,640
Speaker 1: me play. My youngest daughter, Arnica, she got me. She

861
00:44:45,719 --> 00:44:47,880
Speaker 1: got to see me play for about five or six years.

862
00:44:47,880 --> 00:44:51,239
Speaker 1: But my two oldest daughters, Olivia and Angel, they got

863
00:44:51,239 --> 00:44:52,440
Speaker 1: to see you know, they got to go to the

864
00:44:52,480 --> 00:44:55,239
Speaker 1: Super Bowls and the playoff game and you know, to

865
00:44:55,280 --> 00:44:57,919
Speaker 1: come back here against the Oilers, you know, I mean

866
00:44:58,360 --> 00:45:02,279
Speaker 1: they got to witness all of that. But they understand it.

867
00:45:02,320 --> 00:45:04,560
Speaker 1: And you know it's not just me, you know, because

868
00:45:04,880 --> 00:45:07,080
Speaker 1: all my kids. I try to take all my kids

869
00:45:07,080 --> 00:45:09,600
Speaker 1: back to the Hall of Fame every single year to

870
00:45:09,760 --> 00:45:11,919
Speaker 1: let them know these are the players that I looked

871
00:45:11,960 --> 00:45:15,000
Speaker 1: up to. You know, my son goes back every year

872
00:45:15,480 --> 00:45:19,000
Speaker 1: to visit and say hi to one guy, Earl Campbell, really,

873
00:45:19,120 --> 00:45:21,839
Speaker 1: who was my idol growing up? Really and uh so, yeah,

874
00:45:21,920 --> 00:45:26,000
Speaker 1: it's been it's been great, you know, knowing that my

875
00:45:26,080 --> 00:45:28,400
Speaker 1: kids got to see me play, but my son really didn't.

876
00:45:28,600 --> 00:45:31,640
Speaker 1: You never got to see me play. He watched tapes, videos,

877
00:45:31,640 --> 00:45:34,759
Speaker 1: YouTube or whatever. But to go back and to be

878
00:45:34,840 --> 00:45:37,279
Speaker 1: around him at the Hall of Famer. No, you have

879
00:45:37,320 --> 00:45:39,480
Speaker 1: guys that come up and say, hey, man, your dad

880
00:45:39,640 --> 00:45:43,680
Speaker 1: was really good, you know, and imagine how Yeah he's

881
00:45:43,760 --> 00:45:46,879
Speaker 1: like He's like, yeah, yeah, I know, I know, I know. So,

882
00:45:46,960 --> 00:45:49,600
Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's been great for me to be

883
00:45:49,640 --> 00:45:51,160
Speaker 1: in the Hall. I mean, I've been in there now

884
00:45:51,320 --> 00:45:55,080
Speaker 1: for almost twelve years, and the twelve years have gone

885
00:45:55,080 --> 00:45:57,680
Speaker 1: by like that. But it's just a great opportunity, man,

886
00:45:57,719 --> 00:45:59,960
Speaker 1: for me to go back and see my ida, Earl Campbell,

887
00:46:00,080 --> 00:46:02,439
Speaker 1: and to see Jim Brown. If I see Jim Brown

888
00:46:02,480 --> 00:46:06,719
Speaker 1: at Earrocamboll, my whole weekend is set. That's it. I'll

889
00:46:06,719 --> 00:46:08,879
Speaker 1: tell you what my day is set. And I mean

890
00:46:08,880 --> 00:46:11,520
Speaker 1: that sincerely. It's been honest. Sitting down and chatting on

891
00:46:11,719 --> 00:46:14,279
Speaker 1: is awesome sitting down and chatting with you today, and

892
00:46:14,280 --> 00:46:16,200
Speaker 1: I appreciate it coming in. I know we're in a

893
00:46:16,200 --> 00:46:17,839
Speaker 1: bit of a buying and we're always willing to help

894
00:46:17,840 --> 00:46:20,680
Speaker 1: out Murph and Steve and Buffalo. That's what we do. Maw.

895
00:46:20,880 --> 00:46:23,080
Speaker 1: I've had I've had a great time chatting with the Thurman,

896
00:46:23,160 --> 00:46:25,000
Speaker 1: But I do I know I'm late for the break,

897
00:46:25,000 --> 00:46:26,400
Speaker 1: but I have to ask you because people on Twitter

898
00:46:26,400 --> 00:46:28,920
Speaker 1: are asking me. Um, They're saying, do not let Thurman

899
00:46:29,000 --> 00:46:30,959
Speaker 1: leave until you get a Sabers take from him, because

900
00:46:30,960 --> 00:46:33,200
Speaker 1: you're a big Sabers fan. Oh yeah, so you know.

901
00:46:33,280 --> 00:46:35,480
Speaker 1: I mean, what do you think about the season so far?

902
00:46:35,680 --> 00:46:37,680
Speaker 1: I mean, forget about where they are in the standings.

903
00:46:37,760 --> 00:46:39,960
Speaker 1: If you liked what you've seen from Donline, you know,

904
00:46:40,080 --> 00:46:43,680
Speaker 1: Jack's been dominant. I mean from your time growing with

905
00:46:43,719 --> 00:46:46,920
Speaker 1: the Bills to four Super Bowls. Do you see a

906
00:46:47,200 --> 00:46:50,720
Speaker 1: you know, a relation to how the Sabers are building

907
00:46:50,760 --> 00:46:52,360
Speaker 1: and starting to head in the right way. I do.

908
00:46:52,520 --> 00:46:57,160
Speaker 1: And the thing that you said, building building that platform,

909
00:46:57,160 --> 00:46:59,719
Speaker 1: building with those players that they have now they got

910
00:46:59,719 --> 00:47:02,200
Speaker 1: a lot of young players on on the squad, and

911
00:47:02,360 --> 00:47:04,839
Speaker 1: those players are getting better and better every time they

912
00:47:04,840 --> 00:47:07,200
Speaker 1: step out on the ice. Darlin, I love the guy.

913
00:47:07,239 --> 00:47:09,880
Speaker 1: I mean, he's eighteen years old. Can you imagine what

914
00:47:09,880 --> 00:47:11,920
Speaker 1: he's gonna be doing in a couple of years? No,

915
00:47:12,080 --> 00:47:15,160
Speaker 1: I can't, And I think that's what you honestly wonder.

916
00:47:15,239 --> 00:47:17,600
Speaker 1: Sometimes you sit and look and you think, how much better?

917
00:47:17,640 --> 00:47:19,560
Speaker 1: Can he get? Much better? Can he get? You know?

918
00:47:19,640 --> 00:47:23,279
Speaker 1: And then he's you know, it gets better almost every game.

919
00:47:23,400 --> 00:47:27,400
Speaker 1: He makes his mistakes. I mean, how many young guys

920
00:47:27,440 --> 00:47:29,600
Speaker 1: make young guy mistakes? They do, know, I mean, that's

921
00:47:29,640 --> 00:47:31,560
Speaker 1: just the nature of the beast. But when you when

922
00:47:31,600 --> 00:47:33,960
Speaker 1: you see how he comes back and rebounds from it,

923
00:47:34,160 --> 00:47:37,160
Speaker 1: and it's not just the ability, it's the mental toughness.

924
00:47:37,160 --> 00:47:40,200
Speaker 1: And then there's an eighteen year old kid. I'm I'm

925
00:47:40,239 --> 00:47:44,279
Speaker 1: excited for the Bills and the Sabers moving forward. Um.

926
00:47:44,400 --> 00:47:47,080
Speaker 1: I don't know what the contract situation is for Skinner,

927
00:47:47,080 --> 00:47:52,520
Speaker 1: but please don't let him go. Huh. I don't know.

928
00:47:52,600 --> 00:47:54,520
Speaker 1: I don't know. I have to imagine. I have to

929
00:47:54,560 --> 00:47:57,400
Speaker 1: imagine that maybe there'll be some dudes coming just after

930
00:47:57,440 --> 00:48:01,080
Speaker 1: the trade deadline, hopefully a contract extension. I'm sure everybody

931
00:48:01,680 --> 00:48:04,120
Speaker 1: up in the management understands the value that this guy's

932
00:48:04,120 --> 00:48:08,040
Speaker 1: We've been in this situation before, honest honestly, man, this

933
00:48:08,160 --> 00:48:10,680
Speaker 1: was awesome. So One Bills Live Andrew Peters, We'll be

934
00:48:10,760 --> 00:48:13,480
Speaker 1: right back. Lorenzo Alexander is gonna give us the lowdown

935
00:48:13,520 --> 00:48:17,120
Speaker 1: for about an hour. Look forward to that. I'm set, instigators,

936
00:48:17,239 --> 00:48:32,800
Speaker 1: we'd love to have you. One Bills wif Msglow the

937
00:48:32,880 --> 00:48:38,920
Speaker 1: old radio network Sports Update, all Right, Sports Update. Andrew

938
00:48:38,920 --> 00:48:42,279
Speaker 1: Peters is hosting One Bills Live. The Patriots and the

939
00:48:42,360 --> 00:48:45,719
Speaker 1: Rams are heading to the super Bowl. This Super Bowl

940
00:48:45,719 --> 00:48:49,800
Speaker 1: this year conference championships. Yesterday, both games winning overtime. Rams

941
00:48:49,880 --> 00:48:53,560
Speaker 1: kicker Greg Zerlin made a history with a fifty seven

942
00:48:53,640 --> 00:48:57,280
Speaker 1: yard game winning field goal over the Saints, the longest

943
00:48:57,280 --> 00:49:00,759
Speaker 1: game winning kick in playoff history. The Patriots were the

944
00:49:00,840 --> 00:49:03,560
Speaker 1: only offense on the field during overtime in the thirty

945
00:49:03,600 --> 00:49:06,600
Speaker 1: seven thirty one win over the Chiefs. This is a

946
00:49:06,680 --> 00:49:10,760
Speaker 1: third straight Super Bowl appearance for the Patriots. Super Bowl

947
00:49:10,800 --> 00:49:13,760
Speaker 1: Sunday is February third, and the Pro Bowl takes place

948
00:49:13,880 --> 00:49:18,399
Speaker 1: this Sunday in Orlando. Despite a gut wrenching twenty six

949
00:49:18,520 --> 00:49:22,319
Speaker 1: twenty three overtime lost yesterday. Saints quarterback Drew Brees says

950
00:49:22,320 --> 00:49:26,040
Speaker 1: he still plans on returning in twenty nineteen. Brees has

951
00:49:26,080 --> 00:49:29,719
Speaker 1: one year remaining on the two year contracts signed last offseason.

952
00:49:29,920 --> 00:49:32,920
Speaker 1: He is forty years old and finished his eighteenth season

953
00:49:33,080 --> 00:49:35,840
Speaker 1: with a personal best one hundred point five one hundred

954
00:49:35,920 --> 00:49:39,640
Speaker 1: fifteen point seven passer rating and completing seventy four point

955
00:49:39,640 --> 00:49:44,600
Speaker 1: four percent of his passes. The NFL announced this morning

956
00:49:44,760 --> 00:49:48,760
Speaker 1: the five game slate of international games for twenty nineteen season.

957
00:49:49,080 --> 00:49:54,480
Speaker 1: London will host four games the Panthers, Buccaneers, Bears, Raiders, Bengals, Rams,

958
00:49:54,520 --> 00:49:58,400
Speaker 1: and Texans. Jaguars and Mexico City will get another shot

959
00:49:58,440 --> 00:50:01,760
Speaker 1: to host the Chiefs Chargers. Game dates and kickoff times

960
00:50:01,760 --> 00:50:05,080
Speaker 1: will be announced in the spring. According to a report,

961
00:50:05,120 --> 00:50:08,239
Speaker 1: the Dolphins are expected to hire Patrick Graham as their

962
00:50:08,280 --> 00:50:12,120
Speaker 1: new defensive coordinator. Graham is the Packers run game coordinator

963
00:50:12,120 --> 00:50:16,279
Speaker 1: inside linebacker coach and had been an NFL assistant for

964
00:50:16,480 --> 00:50:19,759
Speaker 1: ten seasons. The Savers are on a bye week for

965
00:50:19,800 --> 00:50:22,840
Speaker 1: the All Star break. Captain Jack Eichel and Jeff Skinner

966
00:50:22,880 --> 00:50:25,439
Speaker 1: were named to the All Star Team. Skinner on the

967
00:50:25,520 --> 00:50:28,520
Speaker 1: last man in ballot, The skills competition is set for

968
00:50:28,560 --> 00:50:32,040
Speaker 1: this Friday, and the twenty nineteen Honda NHL Star Game

969
00:50:32,080 --> 00:50:35,480
Speaker 1: will be played on Saturday. And I didn't get to

970
00:50:35,560 --> 00:50:39,640
Speaker 1: my Australian Open update. Lorenzo Alexander joins me in studio

971
00:50:39,719 --> 00:50:43,000
Speaker 1: here for one Bills Live. Andrew Peters in for John Murphy,

972
00:50:43,280 --> 00:50:48,080
Speaker 1: Lorenzo Alexander in for Thurman Thomas, who was in for

973
00:50:48,440 --> 00:50:53,440
Speaker 1: Steve Tasker. I didn't even know this was coming, right, Oh,

974
00:50:53,520 --> 00:50:57,280
Speaker 1: you never seen I know the lowdown, okay, the lowdown,

975
00:50:57,320 --> 00:51:00,560
Speaker 1: but I didn't know you guys had highlights, you know,

976
00:51:00,760 --> 00:51:02,279
Speaker 1: kind of you know, for the fans that at home

977
00:51:02,320 --> 00:51:04,359
Speaker 1: watching this, you know on the broadcast, they can they

978
00:51:04,360 --> 00:51:06,480
Speaker 1: can check it out, get them pumped up for the segment.

979
00:51:07,360 --> 00:51:10,520
Speaker 1: And here you are against the Patriot's interception, Tom Brady.

980
00:51:10,880 --> 00:51:14,120
Speaker 1: That's gonna be every Bill's fans favorite play right now

981
00:51:14,120 --> 00:51:18,440
Speaker 1: in this highlight, real Patriots winning yesterday. This is unreal,

982
00:51:19,680 --> 00:51:21,560
Speaker 1: A bit of a wild man out there, y'all. Love

983
00:51:21,560 --> 00:51:23,279
Speaker 1: It actually gets me kind of juiced up before the

984
00:51:23,320 --> 00:51:24,960
Speaker 1: game as well. You know, you see yourself out there

985
00:51:24,960 --> 00:51:27,799
Speaker 1: making some plays and you know, start visualizing, and you know,

986
00:51:27,800 --> 00:51:29,120
Speaker 1: it's part of why I had a great season this

987
00:51:29,200 --> 00:51:32,560
Speaker 1: ship and great season you did. You're back for another year.

988
00:51:32,640 --> 00:51:36,000
Speaker 1: How the body feeling? You're excited? I feel great, UM

989
00:51:36,000 --> 00:51:39,239
Speaker 1: excited about coming back. Obviously, we have a huge core

990
00:51:39,280 --> 00:51:41,719
Speaker 1: of youth players on this team right now, and I

991
00:51:41,760 --> 00:51:44,560
Speaker 1: think we are in a position to really, uh do

992
00:51:44,640 --> 00:51:46,839
Speaker 1: something special next year. I think people kind of look

993
00:51:46,840 --> 00:51:48,719
Speaker 1: at our season six and ten a lot of the

994
00:51:48,840 --> 00:51:52,759
Speaker 1: ups and downs that we had to endure this year. Um,

995
00:51:53,040 --> 00:51:54,680
Speaker 1: but when I stepped back and look at it and

996
00:51:54,760 --> 00:51:57,240
Speaker 1: you know, and kind of put it together and and

997
00:51:57,440 --> 00:51:59,799
Speaker 1: really see that we were really three plays from being

998
00:52:00,040 --> 00:52:03,840
Speaker 1: nine and seven. Um. You know, Josh really um started

999
00:52:03,880 --> 00:52:05,680
Speaker 1: to mature in a lot of different ways once he

1000
00:52:05,760 --> 00:52:09,320
Speaker 1: got healthy. Uh. Tremaine Adman is the same thing. Towards

1001
00:52:09,320 --> 00:52:11,000
Speaker 1: the end of the season, can really see his growth.

1002
00:52:11,000 --> 00:52:13,520
Speaker 1: And we have some nucleus guys, you know, Zay Jones,

1003
00:52:14,160 --> 00:52:18,799
Speaker 1: uh Um. Robert Foster is another guy that's really stepped up.

1004
00:52:18,840 --> 00:52:20,240
Speaker 1: And I think we're going to be in a position

1005
00:52:20,280 --> 00:52:22,680
Speaker 1: next year, along with our defensive guys that are coming

1006
00:52:22,719 --> 00:52:25,239
Speaker 1: back to really make some noise. Obviously, we still got

1007
00:52:25,239 --> 00:52:27,080
Speaker 1: to overcome the Patriots who are making a great run

1008
00:52:27,200 --> 00:52:29,320
Speaker 1: right now. But I think we're going to be in

1009
00:52:29,360 --> 00:52:34,640
Speaker 1: a position because that facade or that mystic Patriots. I

1010
00:52:34,680 --> 00:52:37,280
Speaker 1: think we're starting to maybe try to push and overcome

1011
00:52:37,440 --> 00:52:40,040
Speaker 1: some of that. Let me ask you this, so you

1012
00:52:40,160 --> 00:52:42,759
Speaker 1: just I mean you you you said a lot there

1013
00:52:42,840 --> 00:52:44,680
Speaker 1: and yeah, a lot of it was no no, no,

1014
00:52:44,680 --> 00:52:47,279
Speaker 1: and a lot of it is is coming back next year.

1015
00:52:47,320 --> 00:52:49,600
Speaker 1: But I think I think the one thing that sticks

1016
00:52:49,600 --> 00:52:52,480
Speaker 1: out and you see you said you're you can go

1017
00:52:52,520 --> 00:52:55,800
Speaker 1: back and remember three plays? Yeah? Is it that? That's

1018
00:52:55,840 --> 00:52:58,800
Speaker 1: the amazing thing about professional sports and when when you're

1019
00:52:58,920 --> 00:53:02,400
Speaker 1: and I think a lot of people don't understand and

1020
00:53:02,640 --> 00:53:04,840
Speaker 1: I say this all the time when to someone that,

1021
00:53:05,080 --> 00:53:07,560
Speaker 1: like if they haven't played, you know, it's very hard

1022
00:53:07,600 --> 00:53:10,680
Speaker 1: to sit and criticize because players can literally scale it

1023
00:53:10,719 --> 00:53:14,520
Speaker 1: down to three plays and your seasons are completely different outcome. Yeah,

1024
00:53:14,520 --> 00:53:17,680
Speaker 1: I mean mentality wise, you and it's three realistic plays.

1025
00:53:17,719 --> 00:53:20,279
Speaker 1: Sometimes you go back and say, oh, yeah, what if

1026
00:53:20,360 --> 00:53:23,200
Speaker 1: you know, but you know, Miami touchdown in the end

1027
00:53:23,280 --> 00:53:25,960
Speaker 1: zone that we could have easily caught. I look at

1028
00:53:25,960 --> 00:53:29,839
Speaker 1: the Jets game gold line stance. We could have made

1029
00:53:29,840 --> 00:53:32,040
Speaker 1: that tackle had guys in place, just just a little

1030
00:53:32,040 --> 00:53:34,319
Speaker 1: bit better technique, you know, just a little bit more

1031
00:53:34,320 --> 00:53:36,440
Speaker 1: effort here, and then then you end up winning that battle.

1032
00:53:36,480 --> 00:53:39,880
Speaker 1: And then the Houston game, which really changed the trajectory

1033
00:53:39,880 --> 00:53:42,360
Speaker 1: of I think of the Houston Texans season and ours,

1034
00:53:43,160 --> 00:53:45,960
Speaker 1: strip sack, fumble balls, land on there. You know who

1035
00:53:46,000 --> 00:53:47,680
Speaker 1: wants it more, who wants to get to it? And

1036
00:53:47,760 --> 00:53:49,759
Speaker 1: I mean those are three plays easther that can switch,

1037
00:53:49,800 --> 00:53:51,840
Speaker 1: and you know you talk about that what if, But

1038
00:53:51,960 --> 00:53:55,160
Speaker 1: that just shows you how close you are when things

1039
00:53:55,160 --> 00:53:57,120
Speaker 1: look so dire, how close you are as far as

1040
00:53:57,120 --> 00:53:59,239
Speaker 1: being from at the bottom to flipping it around at

1041
00:53:59,280 --> 00:54:01,000
Speaker 1: least being in the h Towards the end of the season.

1042
00:54:01,040 --> 00:54:03,400
Speaker 1: You're you're three weeks or four weeks out from your

1043
00:54:03,440 --> 00:54:05,880
Speaker 1: season ending, and you're still haunted by three players. I

1044
00:54:05,960 --> 00:54:09,640
Speaker 1: think that's probably that's probably the kind of that's probably

1045
00:54:09,680 --> 00:54:11,719
Speaker 1: the kind of taste in someone's mouth that brings a

1046
00:54:11,800 --> 00:54:15,799
Speaker 1: guy back for another year. Because it does. It definitely does,

1047
00:54:15,840 --> 00:54:17,640
Speaker 1: And I think I'm not haunted by it. I think

1048
00:54:17,640 --> 00:54:19,920
Speaker 1: I'm more motivated by it. And that would kind of

1049
00:54:19,920 --> 00:54:22,520
Speaker 1: be my message going into it, just showing young guys.

1050
00:54:22,560 --> 00:54:24,360
Speaker 1: We have a lot of younger than I mentioned already

1051
00:54:24,360 --> 00:54:29,880
Speaker 1: on this roster. I say haunted because I'm the next gud.

1052
00:54:30,640 --> 00:54:33,359
Speaker 1: I see why I go into fetal positions and thumb

1053
00:54:33,600 --> 00:54:37,600
Speaker 1: something bad happen. I think that's natural human tendencies to

1054
00:54:37,640 --> 00:54:40,560
Speaker 1: do that. Right though you're six and ten, wasn't competing

1055
00:54:40,560 --> 00:54:41,960
Speaker 1: for none at the end of the year. But when

1056
00:54:41,960 --> 00:54:44,239
Speaker 1: you really break it down and analyze, those are things

1057
00:54:44,239 --> 00:54:46,400
Speaker 1: that you can really wrap your mind around and say, Okay,

1058
00:54:46,440 --> 00:54:50,000
Speaker 1: we are this close. It doesn't promises anything next year,

1059
00:54:50,719 --> 00:54:52,720
Speaker 1: but it still tells us that we have the talent

1060
00:54:52,760 --> 00:54:55,680
Speaker 1: and ability what we had last year being so young,

1061
00:54:56,120 --> 00:54:58,080
Speaker 1: to have been a better team. Now we have to

1062
00:54:58,200 --> 00:55:01,160
Speaker 1: use that to really capital on the opportunity that we

1063
00:55:01,200 --> 00:55:03,880
Speaker 1: have at hand and not wait, you know two or

1064
00:55:03,920 --> 00:55:06,479
Speaker 1: three more years you have to in the NFL, you don't.

1065
00:55:06,480 --> 00:55:09,080
Speaker 1: Your windows aren't big, they're year to year. And the

1066
00:55:09,160 --> 00:55:11,359
Speaker 1: way our team is structured right now, obviously with jobs

1067
00:55:11,360 --> 00:55:12,759
Speaker 1: beyond the rookie deal, tre may and be on the

1068
00:55:12,840 --> 00:55:15,520
Speaker 1: rookie deal. You think about your Davis being on his

1069
00:55:15,600 --> 00:55:18,200
Speaker 1: rookie deal. This offseason, you can bring in some key

1070
00:55:18,200 --> 00:55:20,759
Speaker 1: pieces to help us get over that hump um and

1071
00:55:20,840 --> 00:55:23,520
Speaker 1: make us more dynamic on offense. Obviously, maybe bring some

1072
00:55:23,560 --> 00:55:26,960
Speaker 1: more rotational players in draft, some guys on defense as well,

1073
00:55:27,360 --> 00:55:30,480
Speaker 1: and you easily find yourself in the Chargers positions. A

1074
00:55:30,480 --> 00:55:33,040
Speaker 1: team that was struggling last year found their their footing

1075
00:55:33,080 --> 00:55:35,279
Speaker 1: towards the end, and then this year go twelve and

1076
00:55:35,320 --> 00:55:37,800
Speaker 1: four and are a team that was contending for a

1077
00:55:37,880 --> 00:55:40,319
Speaker 1: championship and a couple of different plays and maybe they're

1078
00:55:40,320 --> 00:55:43,640
Speaker 1: playing this weekend um instead of the Patriots. I believe

1079
00:55:43,680 --> 00:55:46,200
Speaker 1: they played. So yeah, I'm Andrew Peters. I'm in for

1080
00:55:46,480 --> 00:55:49,440
Speaker 1: John Murphy and Lorenzo Alexander, who's no stranger to one.

1081
00:55:49,520 --> 00:55:53,200
Speaker 1: Bills Live is in for Steve Tosker, but he does

1082
00:55:53,200 --> 00:55:56,319
Speaker 1: the lowdown. What day is at Thursdays? Right, Friday Friday off?

1083
00:55:56,480 --> 00:55:58,480
Speaker 1: You know what I mean? Like, hey, you know it

1084
00:55:58,480 --> 00:56:01,400
Speaker 1: doesn't matter Thursday Friday to Either're all the same. You

1085
00:56:01,480 --> 00:56:04,920
Speaker 1: came back, You're you're signed one year extension. Now. I

1086
00:56:04,960 --> 00:56:08,879
Speaker 1: saw something on Twitter. I saw an awesome tweet from

1087
00:56:09,160 --> 00:56:13,920
Speaker 1: the young buck Josh Allen to the old veteran captain.

1088
00:56:14,200 --> 00:56:16,080
Speaker 1: I mean, am I right with when I did? What

1089
00:56:16,120 --> 00:56:17,960
Speaker 1: did he say? You know, congrats on the deal. Now

1090
00:56:18,000 --> 00:56:19,839
Speaker 1: back to work? Yeah, we got our captain back. Now

1091
00:56:19,840 --> 00:56:21,600
Speaker 1: back to work. You know, obviously in a year where

1092
00:56:21,640 --> 00:56:25,359
Speaker 1: you lose Kyle Williams, who is going to be how

1093
00:56:25,360 --> 00:56:27,480
Speaker 1: do you? Were? Pretty much impossible to replace. You can't

1094
00:56:27,480 --> 00:56:29,120
Speaker 1: replace him because me and him are two different guys,

1095
00:56:29,160 --> 00:56:31,320
Speaker 1: two different people. We on the field, off the field,

1096
00:56:31,360 --> 00:56:35,239
Speaker 1: both both, I mean both. It's thirteen years of experience,

1097
00:56:35,320 --> 00:56:38,080
Speaker 1: wisdom own and off the field. You know how he

1098
00:56:38,120 --> 00:56:40,080
Speaker 1: carried himself with his family and his wife, they were

1099
00:56:40,120 --> 00:56:43,279
Speaker 1: so integral part of this this community as well when

1100
00:56:43,320 --> 00:56:46,640
Speaker 1: his wife did jill for the wise when players came in.

1101
00:56:46,760 --> 00:56:48,880
Speaker 1: I mean people don't think that means a lot, but

1102
00:56:48,920 --> 00:56:50,319
Speaker 1: it means a lot for as far as a guy

1103
00:56:50,360 --> 00:56:53,120
Speaker 1: feeling comfortable once they're walking here in their family um

1104
00:56:53,160 --> 00:56:55,319
Speaker 1: and then him in the locker room. Especially when guys

1105
00:56:55,360 --> 00:56:59,400
Speaker 1: like that and yourself take the time to to I guess,

1106
00:56:59,760 --> 00:57:03,080
Speaker 1: show interest in the young guys, help them, right, because

1107
00:57:03,360 --> 00:57:05,279
Speaker 1: you guys are the guys, the older guys that are

1108
00:57:05,280 --> 00:57:09,560
Speaker 1: always on the table. You know, you're physically more dinged up,

1109
00:57:09,600 --> 00:57:11,560
Speaker 1: so you're getting you know, on the training table, maybe

1110
00:57:11,600 --> 00:57:13,960
Speaker 1: extra work here and there. You don't think and I

1111
00:57:14,040 --> 00:57:16,200
Speaker 1: remember this going in and you want to ask a

1112
00:57:16,280 --> 00:57:19,720
Speaker 1: veteran guy a question, but you don't want to bother him, right, Yeah,

1113
00:57:19,760 --> 00:57:21,040
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, you must have felt that

1114
00:57:21,080 --> 00:57:24,000
Speaker 1: when you came into a lot of guys I don't

1115
00:57:24,000 --> 00:57:25,680
Speaker 1: really want to ask you. Can you ask you? Guys

1116
00:57:25,720 --> 00:57:27,000
Speaker 1: been the league five years, Like, I don't know, go

1117
00:57:27,080 --> 00:57:29,040
Speaker 1: ask him and I don't want to ask him. He's

1118
00:57:29,080 --> 00:57:32,160
Speaker 1: forty years old exactly, and so but he opened himself

1119
00:57:32,240 --> 00:57:34,240
Speaker 1: up for that, you know, allowing guys come ask you.

1120
00:57:34,320 --> 00:57:35,640
Speaker 1: He will give you a hard time, but at the

1121
00:57:35,720 --> 00:57:38,080
Speaker 1: end of the day, he would get you what you needed. Um.

1122
00:57:38,160 --> 00:57:40,960
Speaker 1: So that's a guy that you can't replace. Obviously, somebody's

1123
00:57:41,000 --> 00:57:43,000
Speaker 1: gonna have to rise up and try to feel that

1124
00:57:43,120 --> 00:57:45,720
Speaker 1: role in their own way. Nobody's gonna be a Kyle Williams.

1125
00:57:46,000 --> 00:57:47,560
Speaker 1: And I'm just going to continue to what I do,

1126
00:57:47,640 --> 00:57:49,560
Speaker 1: maybe have to stretch myself a little bit more on

1127
00:57:49,640 --> 00:57:52,760
Speaker 1: the defense. But you know, we have guys like Micah Hyde,

1128
00:57:53,120 --> 00:57:57,720
Speaker 1: I think Jordan Poyer, Um, you know, uh Tremaine continue

1129
00:57:57,760 --> 00:58:00,000
Speaker 1: his development as our mic line back and allowing him

1130
00:58:00,040 --> 00:58:01,880
Speaker 1: as a young guy to really step up and flourish.

1131
00:58:02,040 --> 00:58:04,680
Speaker 1: So it's gonna open up an opportunity for somebody to

1132
00:58:04,720 --> 00:58:07,320
Speaker 1: step up and become a Kyle Williams over the course

1133
00:58:07,320 --> 00:58:09,480
Speaker 1: of the career. As a Buffalo Bill. If you want

1134
00:58:09,480 --> 00:58:11,760
Speaker 1: to vent to Lorenzo, we just had a bunch of

1135
00:58:11,800 --> 00:58:15,040
Speaker 1: calls about venting about the Patriots. They're win yesterday. If

1136
00:58:15,040 --> 00:58:17,360
Speaker 1: you want to vent to Lorenzo, please call us eight

1137
00:58:17,400 --> 00:58:20,920
Speaker 1: oh three oh five fifty eight eight eight five fifty

1138
00:58:21,080 --> 00:58:24,439
Speaker 1: two five fifty. I'm in for John Murphy, One Bills Live,

1139
00:58:24,560 --> 00:58:28,160
Speaker 1: Lorenzo Alexander in here with me. Um, Let's let's talk

1140
00:58:28,200 --> 00:58:31,840
Speaker 1: about Let's talk about yesterday. Yeah, I mean, you know,

1141
00:58:31,880 --> 00:58:35,360
Speaker 1: a lot of a lot of Bills fans emotionally invested

1142
00:58:35,400 --> 00:58:39,840
Speaker 1: in yesterday, you know, and no outcome affected your team, right,

1143
00:58:39,920 --> 00:58:42,360
Speaker 1: It's crazy. I mean, obviously, anytime the Patriots are playing,

1144
00:58:42,360 --> 00:58:46,000
Speaker 1: I think it's not only the Buffalo Bills community, but

1145
00:58:46,160 --> 00:58:48,880
Speaker 1: I think just nationally people are tired of seeing them win.

1146
00:58:48,960 --> 00:58:52,160
Speaker 1: Obviously with all the history, his history of them going back,

1147
00:58:52,160 --> 00:58:54,640
Speaker 1: I think this is time's with ninth time in the

1148
00:58:54,680 --> 00:58:57,240
Speaker 1: Super Bowl, and you got spy Gates, you got to

1149
00:58:57,320 --> 00:59:01,200
Speaker 1: Flate Gate, all those stuff that's extended that. I mean,

1150
00:59:01,240 --> 00:59:03,280
Speaker 1: they don't like the Patriots, and they tied to seeing them.

1151
00:59:03,800 --> 00:59:06,480
Speaker 1: So I was actually on a plane all day yesterday

1152
00:59:06,560 --> 00:59:08,280
Speaker 1: coming back from LA and so trying to wash the

1153
00:59:08,360 --> 00:59:11,160
Speaker 1: game on the flight on my phone and everybody had

1154
00:59:11,200 --> 00:59:14,200
Speaker 1: it out on the flight back to Buffalo. And then

1155
00:59:14,200 --> 00:59:17,200
Speaker 1: we got in the air went out and people was like, oh,

1156
00:59:17,240 --> 00:59:19,360
Speaker 1: you could just hear the emotions with they went up.

1157
00:59:19,440 --> 00:59:21,240
Speaker 1: Then the Kansas City kicked the field goal and then

1158
00:59:21,240 --> 00:59:25,280
Speaker 1: they scored a touchdown. Everybody was the whole just vibe

1159
00:59:25,320 --> 00:59:27,960
Speaker 1: on the plane just totally changed. But you know, it's

1160
00:59:28,000 --> 00:59:30,800
Speaker 1: it's the Patriots. I I picked them. I didn't want to,

1161
00:59:30,960 --> 00:59:32,720
Speaker 1: but it's hard to go against what Tom has done

1162
00:59:32,720 --> 00:59:35,160
Speaker 1: over his course of his career and anytime he's the

1163
00:59:35,240 --> 00:59:39,280
Speaker 1: last man standing on the football field, nine times out

1164
00:59:39,320 --> 00:59:40,720
Speaker 1: of ten, I think the only time I've seen him

1165
00:59:40,720 --> 00:59:45,360
Speaker 1: failed was last year in the Super Bowl versus the Eagles,

1166
00:59:45,760 --> 00:59:48,400
Speaker 1: when he got that he got sacked or striped sacked

1167
00:59:48,400 --> 00:59:50,480
Speaker 1: at the end of the game. Um, and that's where

1168
00:59:50,480 --> 00:59:54,480
Speaker 1: it came down to somebody Yet I stepped. You gotta

1169
00:59:54,520 --> 00:59:58,800
Speaker 1: be careful, and I respect and I understand that. Oh

1170
00:59:58,600 --> 01:00:01,560
Speaker 1: you know, I gotta see him. Yeah, yeah, I mean,

1171
01:00:01,680 --> 01:00:04,920
Speaker 1: you gotta see him. But I but I listen. You know,

1172
01:00:05,000 --> 01:00:07,280
Speaker 1: so many people want to criticize some of the miscalls

1173
01:00:07,280 --> 01:00:09,720
Speaker 1: and things like that. I would rather ask you I

1174
01:00:09,720 --> 01:00:11,920
Speaker 1: would rather ask you instead of steering you down the

1175
01:00:12,000 --> 01:00:15,320
Speaker 1: road of having to criticize or not criticize whatever. I

1176
01:00:15,320 --> 01:00:16,960
Speaker 1: don't know what your stances are. I want to know

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01:00:17,240 --> 01:00:20,600
Speaker 1: how would you feel losing the game the way the

1178
01:00:20,680 --> 01:00:24,800
Speaker 1: Chiefs lost? And by that I mean coin toss, no ball,

1179
01:00:24,840 --> 01:00:27,920
Speaker 1: possession you give it to. I mean, I'll say it

1180
01:00:28,000 --> 01:00:30,760
Speaker 1: even know you're sitting here probably the greatest quarterback to

1181
01:00:30,800 --> 01:00:33,280
Speaker 1: ever play, and you're giving him the ball, and then

1182
01:00:33,280 --> 01:00:36,000
Speaker 1: you got to stop him. I mean, as a defender,

1183
01:00:36,240 --> 01:00:38,040
Speaker 1: you gotta stop him. You know what's at stake. You

1184
01:00:38,080 --> 01:00:39,640
Speaker 1: know what the rules are going into the game. It's

1185
01:00:39,640 --> 01:00:41,280
Speaker 1: not like they just said, oh, all of a sudden,

1186
01:00:41,600 --> 01:00:44,080
Speaker 1: whoever gets the ball first wins. You know what the

1187
01:00:44,120 --> 01:00:46,960
Speaker 1: scenario he is. Now you can talk about should it

1188
01:00:47,000 --> 01:00:49,480
Speaker 1: be changed, Should the Chiefs get an opportunity to score?

1189
01:00:50,640 --> 01:00:53,600
Speaker 1: Maybe they change that because of the great quarterback playoffs.

1190
01:00:53,600 --> 01:00:55,440
Speaker 1: I can see the NFL going for that, because they

1191
01:00:55,520 --> 01:00:58,200
Speaker 1: want to see that one out on offense, not just

1192
01:00:58,240 --> 01:01:00,040
Speaker 1: one guy getting the ball. Especially we have a go

1193
01:01:02,520 --> 01:01:05,240
Speaker 1: out there and he gets he gets one possession, right,

1194
01:01:05,920 --> 01:01:08,080
Speaker 1: one possession. The thing is you got to beat them

1195
01:01:08,120 --> 01:01:10,880
Speaker 1: in in regulation then, But as a defender. If I'm

1196
01:01:10,880 --> 01:01:13,520
Speaker 1: on the chief side, I think people get caught up

1197
01:01:13,560 --> 01:01:16,480
Speaker 1: too much in trying to stop tom Brady and trying

1198
01:01:16,480 --> 01:01:19,520
Speaker 1: to confuse him and how we stop him. Everybody around

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Speaker 1: him is not tom Brady. Everybody offensive line, receivers, running back,

1200
01:01:25,080 --> 01:01:27,320
Speaker 1: they're good, but they're not the best to ever play

1201
01:01:27,360 --> 01:01:30,919
Speaker 1: at their position. So if you dominate those matchups whin there,

1202
01:01:31,040 --> 01:01:33,640
Speaker 1: then you can beat tom Brady. But people get, oh, well,

1203
01:01:33,720 --> 01:01:35,320
Speaker 1: let me, i gotta watch what he's doing, Watch what

1204
01:01:35,360 --> 01:01:37,439
Speaker 1: he's doing, he's checking, Oh what is he gonna do?

1205
01:01:37,600 --> 01:01:39,560
Speaker 1: And then you forget about the guy you're going to gets,

1206
01:01:39,920 --> 01:01:42,120
Speaker 1: and then then they beat you because you're too worried

1207
01:01:42,120 --> 01:01:44,800
Speaker 1: about him. And I think that's something as you play

1208
01:01:44,840 --> 01:01:48,160
Speaker 1: them more often, you learn to understand and and I

1209
01:01:48,160 --> 01:01:50,800
Speaker 1: think that's where guys tend to stand up and play well.

1210
01:01:50,920 --> 01:01:54,280
Speaker 1: Is when I'm just I'm going against whoever it may be, Edeman,

1211
01:01:54,360 --> 01:01:57,880
Speaker 1: gronk uh Sony Michelle. Not that these are not good players,

1212
01:01:57,920 --> 01:01:59,680
Speaker 1: but they're not the greatest ever at their position. So

1213
01:01:59,680 --> 01:02:01,880
Speaker 1: basically what you're saying to me is tom Brady standing

1214
01:02:01,920 --> 01:02:06,560
Speaker 1: back there taking taking a snap is a mind screw

1215
01:02:06,680 --> 01:02:09,360
Speaker 1: to the defense. Sometimes just just the fact that it's him.

1216
01:02:09,400 --> 01:02:11,200
Speaker 1: If you watch, yeah, you can get guys caught up

1217
01:02:11,240 --> 01:02:13,320
Speaker 1: watching him, get caught up in his atchicks. What is

1218
01:02:13,320 --> 01:02:16,440
Speaker 1: he going to do? And they end up forgetting about Okay,

1219
01:02:16,520 --> 01:02:18,760
Speaker 1: let me defend this guy, or let me beat the

1220
01:02:18,800 --> 01:02:20,360
Speaker 1: guy in front of them, because if you beat up

1221
01:02:20,360 --> 01:02:22,440
Speaker 1: on their offensive line, beat the one on one matchup,

1222
01:02:22,480 --> 01:02:26,320
Speaker 1: stop the run game, you can affect him without actually,

1223
01:02:26,800 --> 01:02:29,720
Speaker 1: you know, indirectly hitting him or or doing anything of

1224
01:02:29,760 --> 01:02:33,600
Speaker 1: that nature. Is he the hardest quarterback to play against? Um?

1225
01:02:33,640 --> 01:02:35,320
Speaker 1: I mean, he's one of them. I mean there's some

1226
01:02:35,360 --> 01:02:37,840
Speaker 1: great ones out there. I mean, obviously Drew Brees and Rodgers,

1227
01:02:37,920 --> 01:02:40,480
Speaker 1: Philip Rivers, all of them are a little bit different

1228
01:02:40,480 --> 01:02:43,600
Speaker 1: than how they operate, UM, but they all have a

1229
01:02:43,600 --> 01:02:46,160
Speaker 1: great ability to affect you with their their checks, They

1230
01:02:46,160 --> 01:02:48,720
Speaker 1: know what you're in, their snap counts, getting the ball

1231
01:02:48,760 --> 01:02:52,120
Speaker 1: out of their hands quickly. Tom has just done it,

1232
01:02:52,600 --> 01:02:55,800
Speaker 1: you know, I think at a higher rate because of

1233
01:02:55,840 --> 01:02:58,000
Speaker 1: the team philosophy they have up there, and obviously with

1234
01:02:58,080 --> 01:03:00,560
Speaker 1: Belichick and what he brings to the table offensive lead

1235
01:03:00,920 --> 01:03:03,000
Speaker 1: and they do it as a team. And what Tom

1236
01:03:03,040 --> 01:03:05,880
Speaker 1: has done is really I think morphed in a way

1237
01:03:05,880 --> 01:03:08,440
Speaker 1: to where they're willing to run the ball more so

1238
01:03:08,600 --> 01:03:11,000
Speaker 1: than anyway. I mean, that's what beat the Chiefs. I

1239
01:03:11,080 --> 01:03:13,640
Speaker 1: think in my mind, Sony Michelle has been killing Cats

1240
01:03:13,680 --> 01:03:16,440
Speaker 1: in the in the postseason, and it really started with

1241
01:03:16,480 --> 01:03:18,919
Speaker 1: our game. I mean, but they getting a two back set.

1242
01:03:19,000 --> 01:03:23,240
Speaker 1: You don't see that often with the fullback gronk blocking um.

1243
01:03:23,280 --> 01:03:26,720
Speaker 1: You know, two tight ends and they run and lead, lead, lead,

1244
01:03:26,840 --> 01:03:28,840
Speaker 1: stop it. You know some powers. He saw him getting

1245
01:03:28,880 --> 01:03:31,320
Speaker 1: touchdown down there in the red zone. They was trying

1246
01:03:31,360 --> 01:03:33,560
Speaker 1: to play for the quarterback sneak and they just run

1247
01:03:33,600 --> 01:03:36,600
Speaker 1: off tackle lead touchdown. I mean, and if you can't

1248
01:03:36,640 --> 01:03:38,720
Speaker 1: stop that, it's gonna be hard to stop Brady ever.

1249
01:03:38,960 --> 01:03:41,000
Speaker 1: All right, Jay Harris, producer, If we have calls to

1250
01:03:41,040 --> 01:03:42,880
Speaker 1: the line, you're to tell me because my computer died.

1251
01:03:42,880 --> 01:03:44,840
Speaker 1: I've been I've been going four hours here right, so

1252
01:03:45,480 --> 01:03:54,520
Speaker 1: my computer started. I started my computer at Terry in Batavia.

1253
01:03:54,560 --> 01:03:55,680
Speaker 1: We have a call in the line if you want

1254
01:03:55,680 --> 01:03:58,240
Speaker 1: to talk to Lorenzo Alexander. He's in studio with me

1255
01:03:58,320 --> 01:04:00,440
Speaker 1: right now. Andrew Peters. I'm in for John Murphy on

1256
01:04:00,440 --> 01:04:03,240
Speaker 1: One Bills Live eight oh three five fifty eight and

1257
01:04:03,320 --> 01:04:05,840
Speaker 1: eight five fifty two five fifty and you can just vent.

1258
01:04:06,040 --> 01:04:08,000
Speaker 1: Let's vent about the pagers if you want to. What

1259
01:04:08,040 --> 01:04:11,520
Speaker 1: do you got? I think the NFL has to change

1260
01:04:11,520 --> 01:04:14,360
Speaker 1: over time. It's ridiculous that game was one of the

1261
01:04:14,440 --> 01:04:18,640
Speaker 1: coin toss. Each team should have one chance at the ball. See,

1262
01:04:19,040 --> 01:04:20,560
Speaker 1: I got you on that. But if the Chiefs would

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Speaker 1: have done, everybody been cooled. Let's not give Brady the

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01:04:22,720 --> 01:04:24,880
Speaker 1: ball back, you know what I mean. So I think

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01:04:24,880 --> 01:04:27,280
Speaker 1: it's more so the outcome of the game that people

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01:04:27,280 --> 01:04:30,480
Speaker 1: don't like, and that's why they want to change. Because

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01:04:30,480 --> 01:04:32,560
Speaker 1: if Mahomes would have got it, went down, score a

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01:04:32,600 --> 01:04:34,720
Speaker 1: game over. Yes, Brady doesn't get a chance to come

1269
01:04:34,760 --> 01:04:36,360
Speaker 1: back and score it and keep the game going. A

1270
01:04:36,400 --> 01:04:39,320
Speaker 1: while back, I did an unpopular opinion about painting goalie

1271
01:04:39,360 --> 01:04:42,680
Speaker 1: masks and hockey. Marty Beran sent a group text last night.

1272
01:04:42,760 --> 01:04:46,200
Speaker 1: He said, unpopular opinion. I don't mind OT in the NFL.

1273
01:04:46,440 --> 01:04:49,440
Speaker 1: If your defense sucks, you're screwed. You can lose an

1274
01:04:49,440 --> 01:04:51,680
Speaker 1: OT in the NHL and never have possession of the

1275
01:04:51,680 --> 01:04:55,160
Speaker 1: puck either. I get that. But in the NHL, Marty,

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01:04:55,560 --> 01:04:58,200
Speaker 1: you don't start with a coin toss, right right? You know,

1277
01:04:58,280 --> 01:05:01,320
Speaker 1: it's like, hey, coin toss? Uh? Dolly, and you're gonna

1278
01:05:01,360 --> 01:05:03,560
Speaker 1: set up in the back behind the net, and you

1279
01:05:03,560 --> 01:05:05,680
Speaker 1: guys can't cross the red line until the Sabers come

1280
01:05:05,920 --> 01:05:08,200
Speaker 1: come up. I think the callers, right, Lorenzo, And I

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01:05:08,240 --> 01:05:12,800
Speaker 1: don't know, Listen, I'm not a football actually, like I'm

1282
01:05:12,960 --> 01:05:15,440
Speaker 1: I'm a casual fan. I watch you guys every Sunday,

1283
01:05:15,440 --> 01:05:18,080
Speaker 1: and I watched the big games, clearly. But I mean,

1284
01:05:18,120 --> 01:05:20,320
Speaker 1: I'm sitting there and I'm watching maybe one of the

1285
01:05:20,320 --> 01:05:23,400
Speaker 1: greatest football games I've ever witnessed, ever witnessed, and and

1286
01:05:23,680 --> 01:05:27,880
Speaker 1: I'm thinking to myself, a coin toss. The coin toss

1287
01:05:27,880 --> 01:05:30,160
Speaker 1: didn't didn't decide a game. I mean, that was a

1288
01:05:30,240 --> 01:05:32,960
Speaker 1: thirteen play drive you. It was a whole bunch of

1289
01:05:32,960 --> 01:05:36,680
Speaker 1: plays in between that coin toss and attachdown. I don't

1290
01:05:36,680 --> 01:05:38,680
Speaker 1: know who the player was for the Patriots who did

1291
01:05:38,760 --> 01:05:40,800
Speaker 1: the call, but they did the call. I don't know

1292
01:05:40,800 --> 01:05:42,640
Speaker 1: if he called header tails whatever they went in. He goes,

1293
01:05:42,880 --> 01:05:46,920
Speaker 1: we want the ball, right, like obviously, buddy, right, what

1294
01:05:46,960 --> 01:05:48,160
Speaker 1: do you think you're gonna be like, no, no, no,

1295
01:05:48,200 --> 01:05:50,640
Speaker 1: we'll pass. We will wait for it. I see some teams.

1296
01:05:50,720 --> 01:05:52,840
Speaker 1: I think a couple of teams have deferred, making it

1297
01:05:52,880 --> 01:05:54,680
Speaker 1: over time. Yeah, make up kick a field because if

1298
01:05:54,680 --> 01:05:56,360
Speaker 1: you kick a field goal, then you get a chance

1299
01:05:56,400 --> 01:05:58,120
Speaker 1: to get the ball and go down and score. So

1300
01:05:58,280 --> 01:06:01,320
Speaker 1: have confidence in your defense. It depends on how you're playing.

1301
01:06:01,360 --> 01:06:04,080
Speaker 1: But teams don't score every possession they have. I mean

1302
01:06:04,120 --> 01:06:06,280
Speaker 1: the chief didn't score every possession of Patriots and score

1303
01:06:06,320 --> 01:06:10,240
Speaker 1: every possession they had, So at some point your defense

1304
01:06:10,400 --> 01:06:12,720
Speaker 1: somebody has to rise up and make a play. And

1305
01:06:12,880 --> 01:06:16,040
Speaker 1: unfortunately I wasn't on I wasn't able to wash them

1306
01:06:16,080 --> 01:06:17,960
Speaker 1: over time because I was on a plane. But I'm

1307
01:06:18,000 --> 01:06:20,920
Speaker 1: pretty sure at some point doing that, doing that thirteen

1308
01:06:20,960 --> 01:06:23,880
Speaker 1: play drive, the Chiefs had an opportunity to maybe create

1309
01:06:23,920 --> 01:06:26,919
Speaker 1: a third and long get off the field. I heard

1310
01:06:26,920 --> 01:06:30,520
Speaker 1: it was an off size off size penalties, So all

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01:06:30,560 --> 01:06:33,400
Speaker 1: those teams go into it as far as whether or

1312
01:06:33,400 --> 01:06:35,120
Speaker 1: not Tom was going to be able to go down

1313
01:06:35,120 --> 01:06:37,360
Speaker 1: and score. It's hard for an offense to drive what

1314
01:06:37,400 --> 01:06:40,400
Speaker 1: was that seventy five yard drive thirteen plays? That's hard

1315
01:06:40,400 --> 01:06:42,919
Speaker 1: for an offense to do. Obviously it's Tom Brady, but

1316
01:06:43,080 --> 01:06:45,600
Speaker 1: like I said, they Kansas City had their opportunities and

1317
01:06:45,640 --> 01:06:48,360
Speaker 1: didn't make the play. With the Patriots are known for

1318
01:06:48,480 --> 01:06:51,920
Speaker 1: and historically what they've done better than anybody is is execute.

1319
01:06:52,080 --> 01:06:55,360
Speaker 1: They're not overly talented or out scheming doing they just

1320
01:06:55,480 --> 01:06:58,520
Speaker 1: executing when they're one on one matchups and teams that

1321
01:06:58,600 --> 01:07:01,760
Speaker 1: they're facing don't and when you make a mistake, they

1322
01:07:01,800 --> 01:07:05,200
Speaker 1: capitalize on it every single time. And as simple as that,

1323
01:07:05,560 --> 01:07:08,440
Speaker 1: Lorenzo Alexander in studio with me, I'm in for John

1324
01:07:08,520 --> 01:07:10,440
Speaker 1: Murphy on One Bill's Live. I feel like this has

1325
01:07:10,480 --> 01:07:13,480
Speaker 1: been a New England Patriots hate show. And you know,

1326
01:07:14,000 --> 01:07:18,240
Speaker 1: and listen, I get those fans are hurting today. They

1327
01:07:18,720 --> 01:07:21,480
Speaker 1: really are hurting today. And you know what though, I

1328
01:07:21,600 --> 01:07:24,760
Speaker 1: want to ask you this, Um, I thought if the

1329
01:07:24,920 --> 01:07:27,280
Speaker 1: if the Chiefs won, it would have been just some

1330
01:07:27,360 --> 01:07:30,800
Speaker 1: great storylines because you have Peters playing for the Rams.

1331
01:07:30,880 --> 01:07:33,880
Speaker 1: Now you have Woods on the Rams. But you had

1332
01:07:34,040 --> 01:07:37,120
Speaker 1: uh um, Sammy Watkins was on the Rams, now on

1333
01:07:37,160 --> 01:07:39,160
Speaker 1: the Chiefs. But are you are you? Are you happy

1334
01:07:39,200 --> 01:07:40,880
Speaker 1: for those guys? I mean, you gotta be happy for

1335
01:07:41,320 --> 01:07:43,720
Speaker 1: Robert Woods. I mean to see see those guys. I

1336
01:07:43,760 --> 01:07:46,160
Speaker 1: mean I was withis Sean mcvah and Washington as well. Um,

1337
01:07:46,200 --> 01:07:48,680
Speaker 1: there's several guys on that Rams. Obviously, you see Jay Anderson,

1338
01:07:48,760 --> 01:07:51,919
Speaker 1: Jared Golfer, cow guys. So I have some connections, um,

1339
01:07:52,000 --> 01:07:54,000
Speaker 1: and you know, I'm obviously happy for those guys, and

1340
01:07:54,040 --> 01:07:56,640
Speaker 1: also on the Patriots. I mean, I play with Ramone, Humbard, uh,

1341
01:07:56,680 --> 01:08:00,360
Speaker 1: you know, Gilly up there, Gilmore Um and also a

1342
01:08:00,360 --> 01:08:02,600
Speaker 1: couple of cow guys on that team. And obviously as

1343
01:08:02,600 --> 01:08:04,520
Speaker 1: a player, I can kind of separate myself from the

1344
01:08:04,520 --> 01:08:06,520
Speaker 1: hate of the Patriots because of those relationships that I

1345
01:08:06,560 --> 01:08:09,120
Speaker 1: have with those guys. But it's hard to win in

1346
01:08:09,120 --> 01:08:10,720
Speaker 1: this league, and anytime he has some friends to have

1347
01:08:10,720 --> 01:08:12,360
Speaker 1: a chance to do it, you know, you obviously want

1348
01:08:12,400 --> 01:08:13,560
Speaker 1: them to go out there and have a chance to

1349
01:08:13,560 --> 01:08:15,680
Speaker 1: do it. Now, I'm not I'm not trying to expose

1350
01:08:15,720 --> 01:08:17,599
Speaker 1: a weakness in your character. I know you're a very

1351
01:08:17,640 --> 01:08:20,760
Speaker 1: strong human being. But I need to ask you this,

1352
01:08:21,200 --> 01:08:23,800
Speaker 1: and it's only natural. And I feel the same way,

1353
01:08:23,840 --> 01:08:25,679
Speaker 1: like when we missed the playoffs. So we lose out

1354
01:08:25,680 --> 01:08:28,400
Speaker 1: and you have a former teammate moving onto the dance. Yeah,

1355
01:08:28,439 --> 01:08:31,160
Speaker 1: there's gotta be a little bit of envy. Maybe you

1356
01:08:31,160 --> 01:08:33,559
Speaker 1: don't want to say. I mean, I mean, I guess

1357
01:08:33,600 --> 01:08:35,559
Speaker 1: I've been around long enough. The only thing where I

1358
01:08:35,640 --> 01:08:38,080
Speaker 1: have a hard time dealing with is because I've been

1359
01:08:38,080 --> 01:08:39,800
Speaker 1: on a couple of teams where I was no longer

1360
01:08:39,800 --> 01:08:43,320
Speaker 1: with that team the next year, like Arizona Cardinals. I

1361
01:08:43,320 --> 01:08:45,599
Speaker 1: got released in twenty fifteen and they made a run.

1362
01:08:46,320 --> 01:08:48,600
Speaker 1: I felt a certain type of way, like, oh, I

1363
01:08:48,760 --> 01:08:51,280
Speaker 1: was there. But when I'm removed for something and I

1364
01:08:51,320 --> 01:08:55,200
Speaker 1: never had a true impact on making that team or

1365
01:08:55,439 --> 01:08:59,280
Speaker 1: helping that team get somewhere, then it's not as hard

1366
01:08:59,280 --> 01:09:02,200
Speaker 1: for me. I'm before well, before we go to break,

1367
01:09:02,240 --> 01:09:04,920
Speaker 1: So I'll tell you this story. Craig Ruve, who I

1368
01:09:04,960 --> 01:09:07,599
Speaker 1: do the Instagram show with, and I know you've met um,

1369
01:09:07,880 --> 01:09:10,120
Speaker 1: when he first got traded here from San Jose. He

1370
01:09:10,200 --> 01:09:12,840
Speaker 1: did not want to come here, regardless whatever, but San Jose.

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01:09:13,360 --> 01:09:15,320
Speaker 1: So we were in a dog fight that year for

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01:09:15,360 --> 01:09:17,240
Speaker 1: a playoff spot. We end up missing the playoffs, but

1373
01:09:17,240 --> 01:09:19,360
Speaker 1: San Jose was the best team in the league. Yeah,

1374
01:09:19,400 --> 01:09:21,240
Speaker 1: And I just remember I said to him one time

1375
01:09:21,280 --> 01:09:24,720
Speaker 1: after after a couple cordial cocktails, I turned to him

1376
01:09:24,720 --> 01:09:29,439
Speaker 1: and I said, how are you gonna feel san Jose

1377
01:09:29,600 --> 01:09:31,240
Speaker 1: wins the cup? He looked right at me and he he goes,

1378
01:09:31,240 --> 01:09:34,320
Speaker 1: I will literally puke right there on this, and I'm

1379
01:09:34,320 --> 01:09:36,519
Speaker 1: sorry to you. That's what he said. If he didn't swear,

1380
01:09:36,840 --> 01:09:39,400
Speaker 1: he didn't say he said, that is exactly I will feel.

1381
01:09:40,080 --> 01:09:43,479
Speaker 1: He and I and I probably could could understand you

1382
01:09:43,520 --> 01:09:46,640
Speaker 1: know what that what that torment feels like. More with

1383
01:09:46,720 --> 01:09:49,599
Speaker 1: Lorenzo Alexander, when we come back here on One Bills Live,

1384
01:09:49,640 --> 01:09:51,240
Speaker 1: we I mean, we still have to get into the

1385
01:09:51,280 --> 01:09:55,240
Speaker 1: Saints Rams game and so much more. Your calls are welcomed.

1386
01:09:55,280 --> 01:09:57,960
Speaker 1: Eight oh three five fifty eighty eight five fifty two

1387
01:09:58,040 --> 01:10:01,679
Speaker 1: five fifty Call and celebrate the one year contract extension

1388
01:10:01,720 --> 01:10:05,520
Speaker 1: for Lorenzo, or absolutely tear into us about the Patriots.

1389
01:10:05,520 --> 01:10:07,519
Speaker 1: We're here for whatever reason you need to call for

1390
01:10:07,960 --> 01:10:10,800
Speaker 1: Andrew and Lorenzo w g R five fifty and MSG

1391
01:10:10,880 --> 01:10:32,560
Speaker 1: will be right back. One Bill's Live, O b L.

1392
01:10:32,840 --> 01:10:37,720
Speaker 1: Andrew Peters, Lorenzo Alexander, Steve Tasker's wings have been defrosted.

1393
01:10:38,479 --> 01:10:41,519
Speaker 1: I think he's uh maybe landed safely, so I could

1394
01:10:41,560 --> 01:10:44,719
Speaker 1: be relieved in my duties here very very very shortly.

1395
01:10:44,720 --> 01:10:47,080
Speaker 1: Although I've really enjoyed sticking around with all of you

1396
01:10:47,160 --> 01:10:49,240
Speaker 1: for a couple of extra hours, great hour with Thurman,

1397
01:10:49,439 --> 01:10:52,479
Speaker 1: really enjoying my time here with Lorenzo. And we've opened

1398
01:10:52,520 --> 01:10:54,880
Speaker 1: up call lines eight three five fifty eight to eighty

1399
01:10:54,920 --> 01:10:57,559
Speaker 1: five fifty two five fifty if you want to get

1400
01:10:57,600 --> 01:11:01,639
Speaker 1: in on some of the conversation, and uh, let's grab

1401
01:11:02,200 --> 01:11:05,360
Speaker 1: Tim in Buffalo. Tim, you're on the line with Andrew Lorenzo.

1402
01:11:05,400 --> 01:11:10,800
Speaker 1: What's up, Tim? Yes, brother, I love your show. But

1403
01:11:11,040 --> 01:11:14,240
Speaker 1: last night I've been a Bills fan since nineteen sixty

1404
01:11:14,240 --> 01:11:18,880
Speaker 1: fives and I found myself rooting for Tom Brady at

1405
01:11:18,880 --> 01:11:21,320
Speaker 1: the end of the game because I said, who was

1406
01:11:21,400 --> 01:11:26,120
Speaker 1: this my homes kid gonna steal our Sunday? Tom Brady

1407
01:11:26,240 --> 01:11:30,760
Speaker 1: has been our pain in the soul worm for seventeen years.

1408
01:11:30,880 --> 01:11:32,840
Speaker 1: If anybody's going to beat him, it needs to be

1409
01:11:32,920 --> 01:11:37,559
Speaker 1: the Bills, not Kansas City. And I swear I hate

1410
01:11:37,600 --> 01:11:41,720
Speaker 1: Tom Brady, but last night he's the greatest soul per

1411
01:11:41,800 --> 01:11:45,640
Speaker 1: I mean, I've seen it, he proved it again. It

1412
01:11:45,840 --> 01:11:50,599
Speaker 1: kills me. I gotta I gotta tell you I love

1413
01:11:50,680 --> 01:11:54,040
Speaker 1: your point because it's so messed up. And I mean

1414
01:11:54,080 --> 01:11:59,160
Speaker 1: that respectfully. I mean that like like no, I disagree

1415
01:11:59,200 --> 01:12:02,280
Speaker 1: with you. I feel like all of nobody in Buffalo

1416
01:12:02,439 --> 01:12:05,160
Speaker 1: was rooting for the only reason why they would root

1417
01:12:05,200 --> 01:12:07,160
Speaker 1: for Tom Brady, and Lorenzo and I were talking about

1418
01:12:07,200 --> 01:12:09,040
Speaker 1: thanks for the call, Tim, by the way, but I

1419
01:12:09,040 --> 01:12:12,040
Speaker 1: feel Lorenzo and I were talking about this at the break.

1420
01:12:12,080 --> 01:12:14,479
Speaker 1: The only reason why people would be rooting for Tom Brady,

1421
01:12:14,479 --> 01:12:15,960
Speaker 1: and you can tell me what you think on this side,

1422
01:12:16,600 --> 01:12:18,760
Speaker 1: is because they probably would want to see him win,

1423
01:12:19,240 --> 01:12:22,080
Speaker 1: in hopes that that would be it, that he would

1424
01:12:22,200 --> 01:12:26,160
Speaker 1: ride off into the sunset. But tom Brady to me, okay,

1425
01:12:26,240 --> 01:12:29,040
Speaker 1: and I'm not I don't hate Tom Brady the way

1426
01:12:29,080 --> 01:12:33,440
Speaker 1: everybody else does because I haven't been around and emotionally

1427
01:12:33,439 --> 01:12:37,080
Speaker 1: invested into into the beatdowns that he's laid on us

1428
01:12:37,080 --> 01:12:41,519
Speaker 1: over all those years. But I've appreciated the greatness of

1429
01:12:41,560 --> 01:12:43,160
Speaker 1: what he's been able to bring. But I don't think

1430
01:12:43,200 --> 01:12:46,479
Speaker 1: anybody would want to see Tom Brady and he I

1431
01:12:46,479 --> 01:12:49,240
Speaker 1: guess my point was was I got sidetracked. He's become

1432
01:12:49,280 --> 01:12:52,479
Speaker 1: the most annoying superstar on the planet and you have

1433
01:12:52,520 --> 01:12:54,760
Speaker 1: to play against him, so you hold your thoughts. But

1434
01:12:54,880 --> 01:13:00,280
Speaker 1: I will say this, the videos, the selfie videos. Hey,

1435
01:13:00,360 --> 01:13:03,400
Speaker 1: you know it's Monday to work. Yeah, I get ready

1436
01:13:03,439 --> 01:13:05,840
Speaker 1: for next week, right, And I'm just thinking to myself,

1437
01:13:05,880 --> 01:13:08,439
Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, you you got to stop this, like

1438
01:13:08,479 --> 01:13:10,639
Speaker 1: this just isn't you. You're the guy that, like people

1439
01:13:10,680 --> 01:13:13,200
Speaker 1: sneak pictures of wearing Uggs, You're not the guy that

1440
01:13:13,240 --> 01:13:17,160
Speaker 1: throws himself out in the world on video. But I

1441
01:13:17,160 --> 01:13:19,559
Speaker 1: don't know, Lorenzo. There are a lot of angry people

1442
01:13:19,600 --> 01:13:21,639
Speaker 1: around here, but I didn't see that when coming. Yeah,

1443
01:13:21,680 --> 01:13:23,840
Speaker 1: and I definitely wouldn't be cheering anymore because Tom ain't

1444
01:13:23,880 --> 01:13:25,800
Speaker 1: built like that. The more he wins, the more he's

1445
01:13:25,800 --> 01:13:28,280
Speaker 1: gonna keep coming back. And most guys in history, I mean,

1446
01:13:28,320 --> 01:13:32,439
Speaker 1: you think about Manning or you think about ray Lewis,

1447
01:13:32,479 --> 01:13:34,000
Speaker 1: those guys in the win at the career and they

1448
01:13:34,080 --> 01:13:36,920
Speaker 1: walked off because they could no longer physically play the game.

1449
01:13:36,960 --> 01:13:40,280
Speaker 1: So for him to be to walk away from the game,

1450
01:13:40,320 --> 01:13:42,960
Speaker 1: he's gonna have to be feeling bad and there's a

1451
01:13:43,040 --> 01:13:44,960
Speaker 1: quarterback he got to beat him up. I mean, that's

1452
01:13:44,960 --> 01:13:46,240
Speaker 1: the only way you get a guy like that to

1453
01:13:46,560 --> 01:13:48,680
Speaker 1: walk away, because as long as he feels good and

1454
01:13:48,720 --> 01:13:50,920
Speaker 1: it's playing at a high level. He said he's gonna

1455
01:13:50,920 --> 01:13:53,040
Speaker 1: play until he's forty five. I mean, so at the

1456
01:13:53,120 --> 01:13:54,800
Speaker 1: end of the day, the game has to sometime catch

1457
01:13:54,880 --> 01:13:58,160
Speaker 1: up to him, and that only losing contributes to that

1458
01:13:58,160 --> 01:14:00,839
Speaker 1: because you feel worse when you lose. So yeah, maybe

1459
01:14:01,120 --> 01:14:06,040
Speaker 1: maybe back to back losses, although think about this, he's

1460
01:14:06,080 --> 01:14:11,160
Speaker 1: not retiring. He's not. He's not not. He wins, he

1461
01:14:11,200 --> 01:14:12,880
Speaker 1: wants to come back to rub it in your face

1462
01:14:12,920 --> 01:14:18,120
Speaker 1: for one more. He loses, He's not going out losing. No, no, no,

1463
01:14:18,320 --> 01:14:20,040
Speaker 1: it has to be over the course of a season

1464
01:14:20,080 --> 01:14:23,160
Speaker 1: where it's like, oh man, I'm just not good anymore

1465
01:14:23,320 --> 01:14:26,240
Speaker 1: and we're out. No, and we're not in the playoffs now.

1466
01:14:26,479 --> 01:14:28,320
Speaker 1: Not to take that, Yeah, we can't let him get

1467
01:14:28,360 --> 01:14:31,360
Speaker 1: he gets into the playoffs, that team morphs into something else.

1468
01:14:31,840 --> 01:14:33,800
Speaker 1: So we can't let him get into the playoffs. I mean,

1469
01:14:33,840 --> 01:14:36,120
Speaker 1: that's that's the ultimate way where I see, you know,

1470
01:14:36,120 --> 01:14:39,160
Speaker 1: a Tom Brady maybe walking away like okay, I'm at

1471
01:14:39,200 --> 01:14:41,720
Speaker 1: the end. I can't do it anymore. But as long

1472
01:14:41,720 --> 01:14:44,000
Speaker 1: as he keeps okay, and I'm not I'm not trying

1473
01:14:44,000 --> 01:14:45,639
Speaker 1: to sit here and ask you to talk about maybe

1474
01:14:45,640 --> 01:14:49,480
Speaker 1: one of the greatest players ever and his skills diminishing.

1475
01:14:49,800 --> 01:14:51,920
Speaker 1: But you've played against him for a number of years.

1476
01:14:52,000 --> 01:14:55,759
Speaker 1: Is he the same Tom Brady that he was five, six,

1477
01:14:55,920 --> 01:14:58,240
Speaker 1: ten years ago. No, I mean, nobody see a difference.

1478
01:14:58,400 --> 01:15:00,160
Speaker 1: Nobody wouldn't know. I mean, I think he's see he's

1479
01:15:00,160 --> 01:15:01,880
Speaker 1: a little bit more ghost here and there. But I

1480
01:15:01,880 --> 01:15:04,840
Speaker 1: mean obviously in the playoffs, he has locked himself back

1481
01:15:04,880 --> 01:15:08,640
Speaker 1: in and he's finding different ways to win games, you know,

1482
01:15:08,720 --> 01:15:12,479
Speaker 1: more of the short game versus maybe going down the field,

1483
01:15:12,479 --> 01:15:14,720
Speaker 1: maybe when he had a guy like Moss back there.

1484
01:15:14,760 --> 01:15:17,360
Speaker 1: So he has learned how to play with the talent

1485
01:15:17,520 --> 01:15:20,880
Speaker 1: and their skill set around him. Are we saying that

1486
01:15:20,920 --> 01:15:23,480
Speaker 1: he just continues to surprise us or he just continues

1487
01:15:23,520 --> 01:15:27,200
Speaker 1: to be He's he a dominant, he adapts, he understands

1488
01:15:27,200 --> 01:15:30,479
Speaker 1: who he is and where he's at, his arm strength,

1489
01:15:30,720 --> 01:15:33,120
Speaker 1: all that. But now he's using his mind and the

1490
01:15:33,120 --> 01:15:36,200
Speaker 1: short game and the run game to really dominate people.

1491
01:15:36,200 --> 01:15:39,120
Speaker 1: And then it opens up easier passes for him that

1492
01:15:39,240 --> 01:15:41,559
Speaker 1: you see with like a lot of these RPOs or

1493
01:15:41,560 --> 01:15:43,320
Speaker 1: a lot of these over routes that Edelman that we

1494
01:15:43,360 --> 01:15:45,920
Speaker 1: just saw catch if you're watching the telecasts at home.

1495
01:15:46,439 --> 01:15:48,880
Speaker 1: Those are the things that has allowed him because that's

1496
01:15:48,920 --> 01:15:50,720
Speaker 1: an easy throw over the middle. The herd throws of

1497
01:15:50,760 --> 01:15:58,719
Speaker 1: those outrights easier throw. I mean, yeah, but as Edelman

1498
01:15:58,880 --> 01:16:01,439
Speaker 1: Edelman is is a baller, and he has great hands.

1499
01:16:01,600 --> 01:16:04,240
Speaker 1: But those are the things that allowing him to continue

1500
01:16:04,240 --> 01:16:05,960
Speaker 1: to play at the high level because those things aren't

1501
01:16:06,000 --> 01:16:08,000
Speaker 1: open if you're not running the ball at a high

1502
01:16:08,080 --> 01:16:10,800
Speaker 1: rate because linebackers are in those windows. Who are guys

1503
01:16:10,800 --> 01:16:13,760
Speaker 1: that you've just and maybe not just you personally, but

1504
01:16:13,920 --> 01:16:16,040
Speaker 1: guys on your team in a game just continue to

1505
01:16:16,120 --> 01:16:18,360
Speaker 1: you just hit him and hit him and hit him.

1506
01:16:18,360 --> 01:16:21,559
Speaker 1: It might not even be a quarterback receiver. I mean

1507
01:16:21,840 --> 01:16:23,519
Speaker 1: guys that you just keep hitting and you think this

1508
01:16:23,560 --> 01:16:27,880
Speaker 1: guy just will not go away. Marshawn Lynch, I mean, yeah,

1509
01:16:27,920 --> 01:16:30,599
Speaker 1: that was the guy because he's a cowguy, Oakland guy,

1510
01:16:30,640 --> 01:16:32,760
Speaker 1: and I grew up watching him play and we played

1511
01:16:32,800 --> 01:16:34,839
Speaker 1: together in college. But once he got to the NFL,

1512
01:16:34,880 --> 01:16:38,040
Speaker 1: you know, competing against him, I understood how people felt

1513
01:16:38,040 --> 01:16:39,680
Speaker 1: when they played him in college against him. I mean,

1514
01:16:39,720 --> 01:16:42,280
Speaker 1: he just ran so hard, angry, one to fight you,

1515
01:16:42,720 --> 01:16:45,360
Speaker 1: and he seemed like he got stronger as a game

1516
01:16:45,400 --> 01:16:47,040
Speaker 1: went on. I remember one time, I think I was

1517
01:16:47,080 --> 01:16:49,759
Speaker 1: in Arizona, he was in Seattle, and had a clean

1518
01:16:50,040 --> 01:16:52,599
Speaker 1: blind shot hit on him, you know, him cutting back

1519
01:16:52,640 --> 01:16:55,160
Speaker 1: and I'm just coming to clean him up. My face

1520
01:16:55,240 --> 01:16:58,360
Speaker 1: mask was bent in and I took the brunt of it.

1521
01:16:58,439 --> 01:17:00,400
Speaker 1: He went down, but I was a one like man.

1522
01:17:00,800 --> 01:17:03,040
Speaker 1: I thought I was the one delivering the blow. And

1523
01:17:03,080 --> 01:17:05,280
Speaker 1: that's just the type of runner. He was, Oh, that

1524
01:17:05,360 --> 01:17:07,720
Speaker 1: was probably one of the guy that was probably an

1525
01:17:07,720 --> 01:17:09,920
Speaker 1: Emmesis as far as just grinding. So you had your

1526
01:17:09,960 --> 01:17:12,920
Speaker 1: moment where you had a guy totally lined up, lined up,

1527
01:17:12,960 --> 01:17:14,600
Speaker 1: so you know what's funny. And I mean, I know

1528
01:17:14,640 --> 01:17:16,640
Speaker 1: it's a football show, and I get criticized doing the

1529
01:17:16,640 --> 01:17:18,760
Speaker 1: hockey show when you talk about other sports, so you

1530
01:17:18,760 --> 01:17:22,120
Speaker 1: can't please anybody, right, but so I mean, I'll say this.

1531
01:17:22,320 --> 01:17:25,559
Speaker 1: And it was my second year in the NHL OH

1532
01:17:25,640 --> 01:17:28,760
Speaker 1: five or six, Alexovetkin's first year to lay and we

1533
01:17:28,760 --> 01:17:31,200
Speaker 1: were wearing our black and red jersey, so it was

1534
01:17:31,240 --> 01:17:34,280
Speaker 1: definitely after the lockout and Ovi and that was Ovie's

1535
01:17:34,320 --> 01:17:36,800
Speaker 1: first year. Vetchkin was a right winger. I was a

1536
01:17:36,880 --> 01:17:38,719
Speaker 1: left winger. It was a line change and the puck

1537
01:17:38,760 --> 01:17:42,120
Speaker 1: got rimmed around to his side and Ovechkin six two

1538
01:17:42,240 --> 01:17:47,000
Speaker 1: two thirty two thirty five, and I just remember thinking, okay,

1539
01:17:47,280 --> 01:17:50,000
Speaker 1: the vulnerability that he was showing me in the positioning,

1540
01:17:50,040 --> 01:17:53,360
Speaker 1: like his his body position when receiving this pass. I'm thinking,

1541
01:17:53,360 --> 01:17:57,040
Speaker 1: I'm gonna absolutely kill the young rookie and I cannot wait.

1542
01:17:57,080 --> 01:17:59,040
Speaker 1: There wasn't a tough guy in the ice, and I

1543
01:17:59,120 --> 01:18:01,040
Speaker 1: skated at him as hard as I could. People can

1544
01:18:01,040 --> 01:18:03,720
Speaker 1: criticize not that fast, but I was pretty powerful and

1545
01:18:03,760 --> 01:18:07,840
Speaker 1: he planted his feet and tilted his shoulder right into

1546
01:18:07,840 --> 01:18:10,960
Speaker 1: my chest. Yeah, and I went down. Actually that's a lie.

1547
01:18:11,000 --> 01:18:13,960
Speaker 1: I didn't go down. We collided and stopped, you know

1548
01:18:14,000 --> 01:18:16,320
Speaker 1: those ones where you standing each other up. I felt

1549
01:18:16,320 --> 01:18:19,599
Speaker 1: like my chest collapsed. I was completely winded, like all

1550
01:18:19,640 --> 01:18:21,920
Speaker 1: the wind was pushed out of your body. I just

1551
01:18:22,000 --> 01:18:23,960
Speaker 1: come on the ice. I went right back to the bench,

1552
01:18:24,000 --> 01:18:25,759
Speaker 1: and I felt like I got hit by a mack truck.

1553
01:18:25,880 --> 01:18:29,000
Speaker 1: And I don't think people understand sometimes like the guy

1554
01:18:29,120 --> 01:18:31,680
Speaker 1: hitting gets the worst end of it right right, And

1555
01:18:31,720 --> 01:18:35,280
Speaker 1: that's exactly what I failed hitting Marsha. That's a big man.

1556
01:18:35,560 --> 01:18:37,400
Speaker 1: That's a that's a big man. You think they should

1557
01:18:37,439 --> 01:18:40,280
Speaker 1: have given him that that ball back couple? Why not?

1558
01:18:40,479 --> 01:18:42,200
Speaker 1: I think he's one of the best backs in the

1559
01:18:42,240 --> 01:18:45,400
Speaker 1: league at that time. Let's see, here's the thing again again.

1560
01:18:45,520 --> 01:18:47,880
Speaker 1: I know my place when talking football, but I'll say

1561
01:18:47,920 --> 01:18:50,720
Speaker 1: this wasn't that the obvious play. It was give it

1562
01:18:50,760 --> 01:18:52,840
Speaker 1: to wing stop it. You being a defender, you almost

1563
01:18:52,880 --> 01:18:54,479
Speaker 1: got to respect the fact that they didn't do that.

1564
01:18:55,520 --> 01:18:57,640
Speaker 1: Be like, oh wow, they really they really changed it

1565
01:18:57,720 --> 01:19:00,280
Speaker 1: up on us completely. Yeah, they thought they self eight

1566
01:19:00,320 --> 01:19:03,040
Speaker 1: o three five fifty eight to eighty five fifty two

1567
01:19:03,080 --> 01:19:05,760
Speaker 1: five fifty Lorenzo Alexander in studio for the hour. I

1568
01:19:05,760 --> 01:19:08,759
Speaker 1: think Steve Tasker has just arrived, in fact as private

1569
01:19:08,840 --> 01:19:13,479
Speaker 1: jets just landed right out here at helicopter actually dropped

1570
01:19:13,520 --> 01:19:17,360
Speaker 1: him off right here outside on one Bill's drive. Let's

1571
01:19:17,400 --> 01:19:21,679
Speaker 1: grab a call here, Let's grab Mark in Jersey City.

1572
01:19:21,720 --> 01:19:24,040
Speaker 1: This will probably be the last call for today. Maybe

1573
01:19:24,040 --> 01:19:28,400
Speaker 1: not Mark. Go ahead, good afternoon, guys. I'm I have

1574
01:19:28,400 --> 01:19:30,879
Speaker 1: a Bills fan. I hate it as much as everybody.

1575
01:19:30,880 --> 01:19:33,599
Speaker 1: But people that are whining about the overtime, they sound

1576
01:19:33,640 --> 01:19:36,320
Speaker 1: like bitter little kids that didn't get their way. They

1577
01:19:36,360 --> 01:19:39,120
Speaker 1: just the rules that didn't accommodate me today, So I

1578
01:19:39,200 --> 01:19:41,120
Speaker 1: want to change him sm on. That's the way it works.

1579
01:19:41,360 --> 01:19:44,160
Speaker 1: Chiefs win scoreless. In the first half. They picked off

1580
01:19:44,160 --> 01:19:46,519
Speaker 1: a ball where a defensive player was lined up all

1581
01:19:46,560 --> 01:19:49,320
Speaker 1: sides pre snap Mark. Don't hang up, don't hang up.

1582
01:19:49,439 --> 01:19:54,320
Speaker 1: I appreciate your stance on this, but I respectfully and

1583
01:19:54,439 --> 01:19:58,240
Speaker 1: wholeheartedly disagree because and the reason being. The reason being

1584
01:19:58,640 --> 01:20:01,080
Speaker 1: is I get what you're saying about the Patriots and

1585
01:20:01,120 --> 01:20:04,040
Speaker 1: the Bills and Bill's fans saying that about overtime, But

1586
01:20:04,280 --> 01:20:07,559
Speaker 1: I get it, But my disgust for it has nothing

1587
01:20:07,560 --> 01:20:10,040
Speaker 1: to do with Bill's Patriots. It has everything to do

1588
01:20:10,320 --> 01:20:14,080
Speaker 1: with an amazing game that came down to overtime and

1589
01:20:14,680 --> 01:20:18,280
Speaker 1: a young, up and coming stud quarterback doesn't get a

1590
01:20:18,400 --> 01:20:20,639
Speaker 1: chance to go back on the field when he marched

1591
01:20:20,640 --> 01:20:22,679
Speaker 1: his team back down to tie the game up, when

1592
01:20:22,720 --> 01:20:25,200
Speaker 1: nobody gave him the no one believed that he could

1593
01:20:25,200 --> 01:20:29,479
Speaker 1: do it. So I think that for me is where

1594
01:20:30,080 --> 01:20:33,840
Speaker 1: the issue is. Is that I wanted to see this

1595
01:20:33,920 --> 01:20:37,040
Speaker 1: kid and the Chiefs get a chance because it came

1596
01:20:37,040 --> 01:20:38,880
Speaker 1: to a coin toss and simple as that, and I

1597
01:20:38,920 --> 01:20:41,479
Speaker 1: would have said the exact same thing. I would have

1598
01:20:41,520 --> 01:20:43,880
Speaker 1: said the exact same thing if the Chiefs won the

1599
01:20:44,040 --> 01:20:46,679
Speaker 1: coin toss and they marched down and scored a touchdown,

1600
01:20:46,720 --> 01:20:48,519
Speaker 1: I would have been like, I want to see if

1601
01:20:48,600 --> 01:20:50,880
Speaker 1: Brady can break the only one in that camp for

1602
01:20:50,960 --> 01:20:53,439
Speaker 1: that one. I understand why you're at you'd have been

1603
01:20:53,479 --> 01:20:54,800
Speaker 1: only one in the camp for that one, But I

1604
01:20:54,840 --> 01:20:57,719
Speaker 1: would like to say, so, do people want it different

1605
01:20:57,800 --> 01:21:00,400
Speaker 1: for a regular season and then postseason than just keep

1606
01:21:00,439 --> 01:21:02,840
Speaker 1: on playing? Well? The NHS a little bit different, so

1607
01:21:02,880 --> 01:21:05,760
Speaker 1: I but doesn't doesn't the shoe fit though? With the

1608
01:21:05,800 --> 01:21:08,280
Speaker 1: magnitude of the game. That's where the question lies, right, No,

1609
01:21:08,360 --> 01:21:10,800
Speaker 1: I understand. I'm just saying, so, so should it be

1610
01:21:10,800 --> 01:21:13,360
Speaker 1: different for preseason? I mean for a regular season then

1611
01:21:13,720 --> 01:21:16,880
Speaker 1: than in the playoffs because at some point, let's say

1612
01:21:16,920 --> 01:21:19,840
Speaker 1: the game is, you know, both teams keep scoring, keep scoring,

1613
01:21:20,000 --> 01:21:22,040
Speaker 1: keep scoring. At what point do you cut it off?

1614
01:21:22,040 --> 01:21:25,559
Speaker 1: Because football, unlike some other sports, this is the greatest

1615
01:21:25,600 --> 01:21:28,439
Speaker 1: game we've ever had. Then we get some some player

1616
01:21:28,520 --> 01:21:31,840
Speaker 1: health and safety issues that start creeping into it as well,

1617
01:21:32,080 --> 01:21:35,240
Speaker 1: you know. So I'm just saying, well I am, so

1618
01:21:35,280 --> 01:21:37,920
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, yeah, I am one of them. Yeah. So,

1619
01:21:37,960 --> 01:21:39,880
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, at some point, because of the nature

1620
01:21:39,880 --> 01:21:41,880
Speaker 1: of the game, there has to be a cutoff or

1621
01:21:42,320 --> 01:21:44,839
Speaker 1: the way we minimize because that game could go on forever,

1622
01:21:44,920 --> 01:21:48,479
Speaker 1: which obviously everybody that's watching it loves. But let's say

1623
01:21:48,520 --> 01:21:51,160
Speaker 1: this is not, um the championship, and you got two

1624
01:21:51,200 --> 01:21:53,439
Speaker 1: more weeks off, because obviously you can cover in two weeks.

1625
01:21:53,479 --> 01:21:56,160
Speaker 1: But let's say it was last week a divisional game,

1626
01:21:56,400 --> 01:21:58,639
Speaker 1: and then you go on forever and then a team

1627
01:21:58,720 --> 01:22:00,640
Speaker 1: is waiting rested. I guess within it's like, well, you

1628
01:22:00,640 --> 01:22:03,200
Speaker 1: should have beat him in regular time, I mean, because

1629
01:22:03,200 --> 01:22:05,200
Speaker 1: the game will go forever, be beat up, lose a

1630
01:22:05,280 --> 01:22:07,880
Speaker 1: star player, and then you got to go in in

1631
01:22:07,920 --> 01:22:11,320
Speaker 1: the championship week depleted because you just played a six

1632
01:22:11,439 --> 01:22:14,320
Speaker 1: quarter game and the other team played a four quarter game.

1633
01:22:14,840 --> 01:22:17,400
Speaker 1: So at some point it has to be a cutoff somewhere.

1634
01:22:18,920 --> 01:22:24,760
Speaker 1: And like I said, I'm just saying, his offense and

1635
01:22:24,840 --> 01:22:28,040
Speaker 1: defense is not like Brady was out there and there

1636
01:22:28,120 --> 01:22:30,840
Speaker 1: was nobody else on the field. The Chiefs defense was

1637
01:22:30,840 --> 01:22:32,479
Speaker 1: out on the field and they had a chance to

1638
01:22:32,560 --> 01:22:35,759
Speaker 1: make we're de minimizing. I understand it's the offensive league,

1639
01:22:35,960 --> 01:22:39,519
Speaker 1: but we're minimizing what the defense of the Chiefs had

1640
01:22:39,560 --> 01:22:41,479
Speaker 1: done leading up to that. I mean leading up to that,

1641
01:22:41,479 --> 01:22:43,439
Speaker 1: because it did stop him at some points. They got

1642
01:22:43,439 --> 01:22:46,320
Speaker 1: to him some some points um and then they had

1643
01:22:46,320 --> 01:22:48,160
Speaker 1: a chance to win the game. They had their chance

1644
01:22:48,680 --> 01:22:50,719
Speaker 1: off side, they had their hands on a couple of balls.

1645
01:22:50,760 --> 01:22:54,080
Speaker 1: I mean, so the defense has to step up. It's

1646
01:22:54,080 --> 01:22:56,000
Speaker 1: a team game. You have to step up and make

1647
01:22:56,040 --> 01:22:58,679
Speaker 1: the play, get him off the field, stop the run,

1648
01:22:58,960 --> 01:23:01,519
Speaker 1: put him in third and in long situations, if you

1649
01:23:01,560 --> 01:23:02,920
Speaker 1: ever want to have a chance and they had a

1650
01:23:02,960 --> 01:23:04,719
Speaker 1: chance to do and they didn't execute. It's as simple

1651
01:23:04,760 --> 01:23:08,000
Speaker 1: as that. We can't just say, oh, well, my homes

1652
01:23:08,040 --> 01:23:11,559
Speaker 1: has to have a chance. Well, it's an interesting take.

1653
01:23:11,720 --> 01:23:14,280
Speaker 1: Did you play football? I do play football, I mean,

1654
01:23:14,400 --> 01:23:16,280
Speaker 1: and I can I can see them changing it because

1655
01:23:16,280 --> 01:23:18,640
Speaker 1: they want this because of the great quarterbacks. But as

1656
01:23:18,680 --> 01:23:21,240
Speaker 1: a defender, that's just like, man, Okay, they get the ball,

1657
01:23:21,280 --> 01:23:25,679
Speaker 1: So I just lose automatically without doing anything or defenders offender.

1658
01:23:26,600 --> 01:23:29,120
Speaker 1: I am offended a little bit. It's like, oh, Tom

1659
01:23:29,160 --> 01:23:30,880
Speaker 1: got oh they're gonna score in the game, is gonna

1660
01:23:30,880 --> 01:23:33,160
Speaker 1: be overall? Man? I guess. I guess I just stay

1661
01:23:33,200 --> 01:23:35,000
Speaker 1: on the bench. Then they're not even suit up. I

1662
01:23:35,040 --> 01:23:39,760
Speaker 1: guess because I didn't even Yeah, I didn't take this

1663
01:23:39,880 --> 01:23:43,080
Speaker 1: into account. I didn't even think about the defense. You

1664
01:23:43,160 --> 01:23:46,000
Speaker 1: know what, Yeah, well I even put them on the field.

1665
01:23:46,160 --> 01:23:48,720
Speaker 1: I ever played foot defense on the field. Just let

1666
01:23:48,720 --> 01:23:51,400
Speaker 1: the offense goes down, all right, more serious questions. This

1667
01:23:51,479 --> 01:23:53,400
Speaker 1: is my last question for today, and I've had I

1668
01:23:53,439 --> 01:23:55,160
Speaker 1: had more fun today hosting this show than I did

1669
01:23:55,200 --> 01:23:58,200
Speaker 1: with Craig on Instigators, So I appreciate that. Lorenzo and Thurman,

1670
01:23:58,800 --> 01:24:02,040
Speaker 1: how much do you bench it's totally off topic, but

1671
01:24:02,800 --> 01:24:05,760
Speaker 1: right right now is not much. I probably maybe for one,

1672
01:24:05,840 --> 01:24:08,280
Speaker 1: maybe I can get three fifteen maybe once right now

1673
01:24:08,479 --> 01:24:11,559
Speaker 1: get lost. Maybe right right now, I'm not it's out

1674
01:24:11,560 --> 01:24:14,000
Speaker 1: the season. I'm really doing pilates and stuff. Now when

1675
01:24:14,040 --> 01:24:17,320
Speaker 1: I get going, I probably can get like four or fifteen,

1676
01:24:17,600 --> 01:24:19,200
Speaker 1: you know, for one, you know, when I'm in the

1677
01:24:19,320 --> 01:24:20,880
Speaker 1: in the in the middle of the season. The most

1678
01:24:20,880 --> 01:24:24,839
Speaker 1: I've ever done was four fifty five in climbs. Bench overrated. Yeah,

1679
01:24:24,880 --> 01:24:26,960
Speaker 1: if you can't transfer the power onto the field, it

1680
01:24:26,960 --> 01:24:29,000
Speaker 1: really doesn't matter. Now. If you're a strong bencher and

1681
01:24:29,040 --> 01:24:31,800
Speaker 1: can transfer it, then great. But I've been around a

1682
01:24:31,800 --> 01:24:33,839
Speaker 1: lot of strong guys, especially when I was in college,

1683
01:24:33,840 --> 01:24:38,120
Speaker 1: more so than anything, that were unable to transfer that

1684
01:24:38,439 --> 01:24:41,839
Speaker 1: power into functional strength. That's what it's all about, functional movements.

1685
01:24:42,040 --> 01:24:44,960
Speaker 1: I've I've always been curious about the leg strength of

1686
01:24:45,520 --> 01:24:49,479
Speaker 1: football players and the sheer power like yourself running every player,

1687
01:24:49,560 --> 01:24:52,880
Speaker 1: running backs, all these guys, because hockey's known for core

1688
01:24:53,000 --> 01:24:56,880
Speaker 1: legs specifically, And the most I've ever seen a guy's

1689
01:24:56,920 --> 01:25:00,599
Speaker 1: squad I saw Henrik Tellinder four play. It's on each side,

1690
01:25:00,640 --> 01:25:03,320
Speaker 1: so that's four hundred and five pounds and he could

1691
01:25:03,360 --> 01:25:06,080
Speaker 1: squat and he had very long legs. This guy's six

1692
01:25:06,200 --> 01:25:09,320
Speaker 1: four six five. He could put his butt right down

1693
01:25:09,360 --> 01:25:11,880
Speaker 1: to his heels and right back up for you know

1694
01:25:11,960 --> 01:25:15,120
Speaker 1: ten twelve reps those swedes, So like, guys, what are

1695
01:25:15,120 --> 01:25:17,519
Speaker 1: they squatting around? The guys? Can that can do that?

1696
01:25:17,600 --> 01:25:20,080
Speaker 1: For sure? Um, you know four or fifty five, you

1697
01:25:20,240 --> 01:25:22,200
Speaker 1: put that probably on the on the bar for maybe

1698
01:25:22,240 --> 01:25:25,080
Speaker 1: four or five. I've done that. So in that same

1699
01:25:25,160 --> 01:25:28,760
Speaker 1: realm you know of stuff. You got that, and that's

1700
01:25:28,720 --> 01:25:30,200
Speaker 1: where you really want. Got to be strong more so

1701
01:25:30,280 --> 01:25:31,880
Speaker 1: than the upper body, because that's where all your power

1702
01:25:31,960 --> 01:25:36,600
Speaker 1: comes from from the ground. Lorenzo, I'm not actually you

1703
01:25:36,600 --> 01:25:37,640
Speaker 1: know what. I was gonna make a joke, but I'm

1704
01:25:37,640 --> 01:25:40,240
Speaker 1: not gonna know where your power comes from. I gotta

1705
01:25:40,240 --> 01:25:42,680
Speaker 1: tell you. I'm gonna tell you this. Whether you this

1706
01:25:42,760 --> 01:25:44,680
Speaker 1: is whether this is your last year coming up, you

1707
01:25:44,680 --> 01:25:46,679
Speaker 1: have another year or a year after that. I hope

1708
01:25:46,680 --> 01:25:48,800
Speaker 1: you play as long as it makes you happy. I'll

1709
01:25:48,840 --> 01:25:51,920
Speaker 1: say this, you have got one hell of a career

1710
01:25:52,080 --> 01:25:55,439
Speaker 1: in broadcasting after your sting uh playing football, my friend,

1711
01:25:55,439 --> 01:25:57,559
Speaker 1: because I've always enjoyed working with you, watching you when

1712
01:25:57,600 --> 01:26:00,960
Speaker 1: you come in and uh, great insight on the game

1713
01:26:00,960 --> 01:26:02,640
Speaker 1: and good luck if I don't see it in the

1714
01:26:02,640 --> 01:26:05,479
Speaker 1: off season and next season coming up, One Bills Live,

1715
01:26:05,560 --> 01:26:10,200
Speaker 1: Andrew Peters, I think our man, Steve Tasker has arrived. Yes,

1716
01:26:10,360 --> 01:26:13,240
Speaker 1: so he's his vehicle has pulled up and he is

1717
01:26:13,280 --> 01:26:16,760
Speaker 1: ready to rock and roll. Steve Tasker back on One

1718
01:26:16,800 --> 01:26:20,240
Speaker 1: Bills Live, Andrew Peters. I'm out. Lorenzo's back for another segment,

1719
01:26:20,280 --> 01:26:39,880
Speaker 1: maybe another hour w g R five fifty MSG. All right,

1720
01:26:39,880 --> 01:26:41,840
Speaker 1: welcome back to One Bills Live. I am finally in

1721
01:26:41,920 --> 01:26:45,479
Speaker 1: what a day I'm having. Thanks to uh Andrew Peters

1722
01:26:45,479 --> 01:26:48,280
Speaker 1: for filling in so admirably. Way to go, man, Oh,

1723
01:26:48,400 --> 01:26:50,400
Speaker 1: I played easy. It's easy, right, I mean, you know

1724
01:26:50,479 --> 01:26:54,320
Speaker 1: how it is. You talk to Thurman and it's easy confirmations.

1725
01:26:54,800 --> 01:26:56,439
Speaker 1: That's why I you here, because if I had to

1726
01:26:56,479 --> 01:26:59,000
Speaker 1: do this by myself, everybody would turn it off, including me.

1727
01:26:59,120 --> 01:27:00,880
Speaker 1: I wouldn't want to be where you are right now

1728
01:27:00,920 --> 01:27:03,280
Speaker 1: without a sidekick at all. Are you kidding me? I

1729
01:27:03,320 --> 01:27:05,680
Speaker 1: like someone always just say come on, get in there

1730
01:27:05,720 --> 01:27:09,040
Speaker 1: and host alone. I'm like absolutely not, no, thanks, no,

1731
01:27:09,280 --> 01:27:12,200
Speaker 1: thank you. Yeah. Due to a confluence of events, we

1732
01:27:12,280 --> 01:27:14,519
Speaker 1: got caught with Murth traveling today and I was supposed

1733
01:27:14,520 --> 01:27:17,080
Speaker 1: to be back earlier, and you know, you know how

1734
01:27:17,120 --> 01:27:18,439
Speaker 1: it is an airlines. I was two and a half

1735
01:27:18,479 --> 01:27:22,040
Speaker 1: hours late with you know, and who knows why, But

1736
01:27:22,800 --> 01:27:25,000
Speaker 1: here I am finally, And how are you feeling? I

1737
01:27:25,040 --> 01:27:27,120
Speaker 1: feel good? I mean I took a trip, I had

1738
01:27:27,120 --> 01:27:30,160
Speaker 1: a layover last night, I flew out of New Orleans

1739
01:27:30,280 --> 01:27:33,160
Speaker 1: last night, slept, and then flew in this morning. And

1740
01:27:33,280 --> 01:27:36,040
Speaker 1: how let me ask you this, like, what was the

1741
01:27:36,160 --> 01:27:38,960
Speaker 1: environment like yesterday at that game? I mean you could

1742
01:27:39,000 --> 01:27:41,800
Speaker 1: feel it. Forget about the Patriots Chiefs game. I like

1743
01:27:42,200 --> 01:27:45,200
Speaker 1: like the Saints Rams game. You could feel that environment

1744
01:27:45,240 --> 01:27:48,639
Speaker 1: through the television. Two really good teams, and you knew

1745
01:27:48,680 --> 01:27:50,720
Speaker 1: that it probably wasn't going to be a thirty five

1746
01:27:50,840 --> 01:27:53,759
Speaker 1: forty five game. He knew it early on, but wow,

1747
01:27:54,800 --> 01:27:57,800
Speaker 1: the crowd was absolutely crazy. We had taken you know,

1748
01:27:57,840 --> 01:28:00,200
Speaker 1: it happened late in the game, all this controversial stuff.

1749
01:28:00,200 --> 01:28:03,120
Speaker 1: We had actually taken the walk down with the media.

1750
01:28:03,200 --> 01:28:05,679
Speaker 1: So the PR people when with all these extra media

1751
01:28:05,720 --> 01:28:08,160
Speaker 1: people in tow in the in the game and in

1752
01:28:08,200 --> 01:28:11,760
Speaker 1: the stadium to cover every platform, is there, right, everybody? Everybody?

1753
01:28:11,960 --> 01:28:14,120
Speaker 1: And they say, okay, listen, here's what happens. At five

1754
01:28:14,200 --> 01:28:16,040
Speaker 1: minute mark, or six minute mark. We're gonna get all

1755
01:28:16,040 --> 01:28:17,760
Speaker 1: of you together where to take you down early, get

1756
01:28:17,800 --> 01:28:19,960
Speaker 1: you set up, and then once the game's over, you'll

1757
01:28:20,000 --> 01:28:21,679
Speaker 1: be right there ready to come on the field and stuff.

1758
01:28:21,680 --> 01:28:27,040
Speaker 1: So we're down there, I'm standing literally twenty yards from

1759
01:28:27,120 --> 01:28:31,759
Speaker 1: the past interference non call, and I was like, wow,

1760
01:28:31,880 --> 01:28:34,280
Speaker 1: that's I said. When I saw it the first time,

1761
01:28:34,320 --> 01:28:36,080
Speaker 1: I said, Wow, it was a bang bang play. I

1762
01:28:36,160 --> 01:28:37,880
Speaker 1: kind of they kind of let that stuff go if

1763
01:28:37,880 --> 01:28:40,320
Speaker 1: it's real close, even if the guy gets there early.

1764
01:28:40,360 --> 01:28:42,240
Speaker 1: They always let that go. And we've seen it a

1765
01:28:42,280 --> 01:28:45,559
Speaker 1: million times. And then when they showed the replay, I

1766
01:28:45,600 --> 01:28:49,680
Speaker 1: was like, wow, I thought when it happened, I was like, yep,

1767
01:28:49,720 --> 01:28:51,519
Speaker 1: you got to throw it, and I thought, okay, bang bang,

1768
01:28:51,520 --> 01:28:53,360
Speaker 1: you're gonna let it slide. And then I saw the replay,

1769
01:28:53,400 --> 01:28:56,000
Speaker 1: it was like, Wow, it wasn't even close. And it's

1770
01:28:56,080 --> 01:28:58,600
Speaker 1: not just that game though. Oh that place went crazy.

1771
01:28:58,880 --> 01:29:03,000
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, the fans went crazy, crazy magic. I

1772
01:29:03,000 --> 01:29:04,960
Speaker 1: couldn't imagine, Like I said, you could hear it. And

1773
01:29:05,000 --> 01:29:06,799
Speaker 1: I mean like there was a there was an incident

1774
01:29:06,840 --> 01:29:09,120
Speaker 1: in the Chiefs game where where the crowd just went

1775
01:29:09,560 --> 01:29:11,559
Speaker 1: I rate I think it was you know, what it was.

1776
01:29:11,600 --> 01:29:13,439
Speaker 1: I think it was the It was either the Hogan

1777
01:29:13,600 --> 01:29:17,920
Speaker 1: catch or someone else maybe an interception that was catch

1778
01:29:17,960 --> 01:29:19,680
Speaker 1: where he caught it and it kind of hit the

1779
01:29:19,720 --> 01:29:22,040
Speaker 1: ground and they let him stand. Yeah, and then when

1780
01:29:22,040 --> 01:29:24,880
Speaker 1: it stood, the fans went not. I was watching that

1781
01:29:24,960 --> 01:29:27,080
Speaker 1: on a flight and it was, oh my gosh. People

1782
01:29:27,080 --> 01:29:29,200
Speaker 1: in the flight were like, you know, they they were

1783
01:29:29,320 --> 01:29:31,519
Speaker 1: spouting off about what was going on in the game. Well, well,

1784
01:29:31,560 --> 01:29:32,880
Speaker 1: let me ask you this before we go to what's

1785
01:29:32,880 --> 01:29:37,080
Speaker 1: the bigger story the officiating or the the overtime rules. Uh,

1786
01:29:37,200 --> 01:29:40,000
Speaker 1: the officiating is the real key to it, because that's

1787
01:29:40,040 --> 01:29:42,439
Speaker 1: the thing that even got the Saints game to the overtime.

1788
01:29:42,560 --> 01:29:44,320
Speaker 1: They wouldn't have gotten to the overtime if the Saints

1789
01:29:44,360 --> 01:29:48,679
Speaker 1: hadn't done it. Plus the and before that, the Rams

1790
01:29:48,680 --> 01:29:52,000
Speaker 1: were going in for a touchdown Jared Goff got face masked,

1791
01:29:52,720 --> 01:29:54,800
Speaker 1: So that would have been first and goal on the

1792
01:29:55,320 --> 01:29:57,679
Speaker 1: five or six or something, or the first and goal

1793
01:29:57,680 --> 01:30:00,360
Speaker 1: on the one. It would have been, and that means

1794
01:30:00,920 --> 01:30:05,000
Speaker 1: might the Rams would have taken the lead and the

1795
01:30:05,040 --> 01:30:06,680
Speaker 1: pet and the Saints would have had to go for

1796
01:30:06,760 --> 01:30:08,280
Speaker 1: it at the end. And said, you know what I'm saying.

1797
01:30:08,920 --> 01:30:10,760
Speaker 1: So there was a call the other way, and then

1798
01:30:10,760 --> 01:30:12,720
Speaker 1: it would call that, you know, set them up for

1799
01:30:12,800 --> 01:30:16,479
Speaker 1: tide um. So I think the officiating is the big thing.

1800
01:30:16,479 --> 01:30:18,680
Speaker 1: And the overtime rules. I mean, you know, you know

1801
01:30:18,720 --> 01:30:20,519
Speaker 1: why people like the overtime There's a couple of things.

1802
01:30:21,080 --> 01:30:22,840
Speaker 1: They want to change the overtime rules because they want

1803
01:30:22,840 --> 01:30:25,920
Speaker 1: more of that game I wanted. I felt, well, that's

1804
01:30:25,920 --> 01:30:27,960
Speaker 1: what what was my whole argument coming in this morning?

1805
01:30:28,120 --> 01:30:31,560
Speaker 1: I came in and I felt like more so that

1806
01:30:31,720 --> 01:30:34,680
Speaker 1: the Chiefs game and the Patriots game nothing to do

1807
01:30:34,720 --> 01:30:37,439
Speaker 1: with the outcome of the game or who won. I felt,

1808
01:30:37,479 --> 01:30:41,320
Speaker 1: as a somebody who was invested in and watching those games,

1809
01:30:41,760 --> 01:30:45,000
Speaker 1: that I was owed an opportunity the Chiefs to get

1810
01:30:45,000 --> 01:30:46,760
Speaker 1: the ball back, and I don't want Hey, you get

1811
01:30:46,800 --> 01:30:50,680
Speaker 1: them all gambling odds lines spread all of that. Patriots

1812
01:30:50,760 --> 01:30:53,360
Speaker 1: Brady Belichick back in the old days. I give me.

1813
01:30:53,400 --> 01:30:55,320
Speaker 1: I need a roadie, I want I want to see

1814
01:30:55,320 --> 01:30:57,080
Speaker 1: the Chiefs. I want to see the Chiefs. That finally,

1815
01:30:59,080 --> 01:31:01,360
Speaker 1: like I watched seven hours of football, I'm like, I'm

1816
01:31:01,360 --> 01:31:05,120
Speaker 1: ready for another ten minutes. Yeah, I deserve another ten minutes.

1817
01:31:05,120 --> 01:31:08,720
Speaker 1: And I don't put nearly the emotion or anything else

1818
01:31:08,760 --> 01:31:11,840
Speaker 1: into it. That everybody else does time, money, effort, all

1819
01:31:11,840 --> 01:31:15,280
Speaker 1: of it to a heartache to get robbed. I mean,

1820
01:31:16,080 --> 01:31:18,040
Speaker 1: someone called in Steve and they said that, they said

1821
01:31:18,040 --> 01:31:21,559
Speaker 1: that we'd all feel differently if the Patriots didn't win.

1822
01:31:22,000 --> 01:31:24,360
Speaker 1: And I said, if the Chiefs. If the Chiefs won

1823
01:31:24,439 --> 01:31:27,320
Speaker 1: the coin toss, I would have been disappointed that I

1824
01:31:27,320 --> 01:31:29,680
Speaker 1: didn't get to see if Brady could go and beat

1825
01:31:29,720 --> 01:31:32,599
Speaker 1: Tom Brady one more time. I would have felt the

1826
01:31:32,640 --> 01:31:35,559
Speaker 1: exact same way the other side. So to me, I

1827
01:31:35,600 --> 01:31:38,040
Speaker 1: think just the rule in general, I think ruined it

1828
01:31:38,080 --> 01:31:40,040
Speaker 1: for me yesterday. But it's great to see you though,

1829
01:31:41,360 --> 01:31:43,240
Speaker 1: But I think that's true. I think people just wanted

1830
01:31:43,240 --> 01:31:46,000
Speaker 1: more of that game. Yeah, nobody wanted it. Nobody wanted

1831
01:31:46,040 --> 01:31:47,360
Speaker 1: it to end. I think the good thing, I mean

1832
01:31:47,360 --> 01:31:50,720
Speaker 1: the spoiled yesterday was some great football Rams Saints game.

1833
01:31:50,840 --> 01:31:53,759
Speaker 1: Same thing I feel. I feel sick for the Saints fans.

1834
01:31:53,760 --> 01:31:55,840
Speaker 1: I mean, that was the thing about, you know, and

1835
01:31:56,479 --> 01:31:59,599
Speaker 1: something going on the Buffalo connection. Somebody said, hey, last

1836
01:31:59,640 --> 01:32:02,479
Speaker 1: year they at that miracle catch in Minnesota. Then they

1837
01:32:02,520 --> 01:32:07,320
Speaker 1: had this thing that happened yesterday, and Albert Brewer or somebody,

1838
01:32:07,400 --> 01:32:11,200
Speaker 1: or Adam Schefter or somebody's made you know, got behind

1839
01:32:11,240 --> 01:32:13,200
Speaker 1: bars in the moment and was in prison. He said,

1840
01:32:13,240 --> 01:32:15,360
Speaker 1: you know, guys, there's no team that's had two back

1841
01:32:15,400 --> 01:32:20,360
Speaker 1: to back the years end like this. Bro snap out

1842
01:32:20,360 --> 01:32:22,400
Speaker 1: of it, you know. I mean, Buffalo fans no better

1843
01:32:22,400 --> 01:32:24,840
Speaker 1: than that. And that's people were going back all the

1844
01:32:24,840 --> 01:32:26,720
Speaker 1: way to to the no goal in the in the

1845
01:32:26,840 --> 01:32:30,479
Speaker 1: Dallas Series and hockey, the Ronnie Harmon catch the wide

1846
01:32:30,520 --> 01:32:32,760
Speaker 1: right and then then three super Bowls would followed that one.

1847
01:32:32,800 --> 01:32:36,920
Speaker 1: I mean people wanted to hammer him and they did rightfully.

1848
01:32:36,920 --> 01:32:40,639
Speaker 1: So when when someone of that magnitude makes a statement

1849
01:32:40,680 --> 01:32:42,040
Speaker 1: and you know, they get ripped out it, you know,

1850
01:32:42,040 --> 01:32:44,559
Speaker 1: I'm all for it. I've taken my loves to Steve,

1851
01:32:44,720 --> 01:32:46,479
Speaker 1: so you kept the show going while I was gone.

1852
01:32:46,520 --> 01:32:50,479
Speaker 1: The biggest takeaway those Sundays AFC and NFC championship games.

1853
01:32:50,560 --> 01:32:52,400
Speaker 1: Everybody's been tweeting in about it. We have some more

1854
01:32:52,479 --> 01:32:54,600
Speaker 1: Joe Mazer tweets in this is one super Bowl that

1855
01:32:54,680 --> 01:32:57,840
Speaker 1: I will not watch and I only miss a few

1856
01:32:57,840 --> 01:32:59,759
Speaker 1: while I was in the Navy at sea. The NFL

1857
01:33:00,040 --> 01:33:01,760
Speaker 1: of the Rams and Patriots in the Super Bowl because

1858
01:33:01,800 --> 01:33:04,000
Speaker 1: the money LA is a big market in the end,

1859
01:33:04,760 --> 01:33:07,760
Speaker 1: and the Pats want to win their sixth ring. It's

1860
01:33:07,800 --> 01:33:11,080
Speaker 1: all about money and nothing else. Listen, that's that may

1861
01:33:11,120 --> 01:33:13,240
Speaker 1: be true. The NFL may get more cash out of this,

1862
01:33:13,320 --> 01:33:16,080
Speaker 1: but believe me, they could not care less who plays

1863
01:33:16,120 --> 01:33:17,439
Speaker 1: in the thing. They just want the thing to go

1864
01:33:17,479 --> 01:33:19,639
Speaker 1: off without incident. I did, I was, I was actually

1865
01:33:20,200 --> 01:33:23,200
Speaker 1: I was probably saying to myself, I would be more

1866
01:33:23,320 --> 01:33:27,320
Speaker 1: intrigued into Super Bowl if it were the Chiefs and

1867
01:33:27,360 --> 01:33:29,280
Speaker 1: the Rams. Then, yeah, you know, because you have two

1868
01:33:29,640 --> 01:33:32,800
Speaker 1: new teams. I mean, we've seen the Saints before years ago,

1869
01:33:32,840 --> 01:33:35,200
Speaker 1: but we've seen them and the Patriots have been around

1870
01:33:35,320 --> 01:33:37,120
Speaker 1: seems like forever. Yeah, they don't get caught up in

1871
01:33:37,120 --> 01:33:40,160
Speaker 1: thinking the league somehow conspires when it. Certainly they'll take

1872
01:33:40,160 --> 01:33:43,120
Speaker 1: the money, but there's gonna be plenty of money if

1873
01:33:43,160 --> 01:33:47,040
Speaker 1: even if they had Cincinnati, and I say, it's gonna

1874
01:33:47,040 --> 01:33:49,679
Speaker 1: be a cash cow no matter why. Exactly right. They don't.

1875
01:33:49,880 --> 01:33:52,680
Speaker 1: They're not getting caught up in splitting hairs about the

1876
01:33:52,960 --> 01:33:54,720
Speaker 1: percentages and that kind of stuff. They just want the

1877
01:33:54,760 --> 01:33:57,120
Speaker 1: game to go off really well, be competitive, be a

1878
01:33:57,120 --> 01:33:59,599
Speaker 1: close game, maybe a super Bowl that will go into

1879
01:33:59,600 --> 01:34:02,120
Speaker 1: overtime like it did last year. That's what they'd really like. Also,

1880
01:34:02,840 --> 01:34:08,519
Speaker 1: biggest takeaway from Sunday's AFC NFC Championship games from Derek Kanya,

1881
01:34:08,680 --> 01:34:12,040
Speaker 1: Why change ot Kansas City defense had three chances to

1882
01:34:12,080 --> 01:34:15,280
Speaker 1: stop him, three third downs in overtime of longer than

1883
01:34:15,320 --> 01:34:18,679
Speaker 1: seven yards. Its sudden death. Make it, make it sudden death,

1884
01:34:19,080 --> 01:34:21,240
Speaker 1: or he says it is sudden death. Make it so

1885
01:34:21,320 --> 01:34:24,880
Speaker 1: much more exciting. And that's so there's one guy's yeah,

1886
01:34:24,920 --> 01:34:26,559
Speaker 1: and I kind of I'm kind of in that camp.

1887
01:34:26,720 --> 01:34:29,400
Speaker 1: There's no way you're ever gonna make it perfect. Um,

1888
01:34:29,800 --> 01:34:32,120
Speaker 1: And like I said, people want more of it. It's

1889
01:34:32,160 --> 01:34:33,920
Speaker 1: and for the league's part, it's always nice to have

1890
01:34:33,960 --> 01:34:35,679
Speaker 1: him say, hey, I wish I had more of that game.

1891
01:34:36,240 --> 01:34:37,680
Speaker 1: That's a good place for the league to be in.

1892
01:34:38,120 --> 01:34:41,400
Speaker 1: Nobody wanted to, you know, nobody wanted to end like

1893
01:34:41,439 --> 01:34:44,200
Speaker 1: the like it did in Saint Louis and in New

1894
01:34:44,320 --> 01:34:47,400
Speaker 1: Orleans in LA. But I will, I think for me,

1895
01:34:47,920 --> 01:34:50,120
Speaker 1: I don't even know if it was so much the

1896
01:34:50,200 --> 01:34:52,840
Speaker 1: Chiefs or just the other game or do the other

1897
01:34:52,880 --> 01:34:55,160
Speaker 1: team or whatever. It was just the fact that the

1898
01:34:55,439 --> 01:34:58,000
Speaker 1: kid that was playing the quarterback, Mahomes, I'm like, I'm

1899
01:34:58,000 --> 01:35:00,439
Speaker 1: sitting there and I'm like number one, and I wasn't

1900
01:35:00,439 --> 01:35:02,240
Speaker 1: too wrapped up in the story and all the success

1901
01:35:02,280 --> 01:35:03,800
Speaker 1: going into it. But you hear the hype and then

1902
01:35:03,840 --> 01:35:06,240
Speaker 1: you want to see it. And he lived up to it.

1903
01:35:06,280 --> 01:35:09,519
Speaker 1: And more like in a huge game, a young kid

1904
01:35:09,560 --> 01:35:13,120
Speaker 1: against the margainably the greatest. He went toe to toe

1905
01:35:13,200 --> 01:35:15,960
Speaker 1: with him, and he sustained it for four quarters. I

1906
01:35:16,080 --> 01:35:17,960
Speaker 1: felt like he deserved a shot. I felt like he

1907
01:35:18,040 --> 01:35:20,479
Speaker 1: deserved a shot in his place at the table to

1908
01:35:21,320 --> 01:35:23,679
Speaker 1: you know, to get his team back in it. But anyway,

1909
01:35:24,080 --> 01:35:26,320
Speaker 1: here here we are today, just complaining about it. To

1910
01:35:26,360 --> 01:35:28,120
Speaker 1: sympathize with it. I mean, everybody would have loved to

1911
01:35:28,160 --> 01:35:29,720
Speaker 1: have seen it, whether it's fair or not, one way

1912
01:35:29,800 --> 01:35:31,880
Speaker 1: or the other. I get it. And and and uh, you know,

1913
01:35:31,920 --> 01:35:34,240
Speaker 1: Lorenzo made a great point. It is an offensive league,

1914
01:35:34,280 --> 01:35:36,080
Speaker 1: so if you lose that coin flip, they get their

1915
01:35:36,120 --> 01:35:38,000
Speaker 1: strength on the you know, they get all the rules

1916
01:35:38,000 --> 01:35:41,519
Speaker 1: in their favor. The officiation officiating is all slanted towards

1917
01:35:41,520 --> 01:35:44,200
Speaker 1: the offense. It goes all in their favor. So, oh,

1918
01:35:44,720 --> 01:35:46,800
Speaker 1: you got a bunch of calls. We've got a bunch

1919
01:35:46,800 --> 01:35:49,719
Speaker 1: of calls. I'm gonna get to, Uh, Andrew Peters, who's

1920
01:35:49,760 --> 01:35:52,639
Speaker 1: been holding down the fort for two hours. I'm back

1921
01:35:52,640 --> 01:35:55,320
Speaker 1: We're gonna do this last hour together. This is One

1922
01:35:55,320 --> 01:35:57,639
Speaker 1: Bill's Live, presented by Clyda Health from One Bill's Drive

1923
01:35:57,680 --> 01:36:12,000
Speaker 1: and this is Buffalo Bill's Radio Hills Radio Network Sports Update.

1924
01:36:12,439 --> 01:36:14,240
Speaker 1: The Patriots and the Rams are headed to the Super

1925
01:36:14,240 --> 01:36:17,400
Speaker 1: Bowl this year after conference championships. Yesterday, both games went

1926
01:36:17,439 --> 01:36:20,559
Speaker 1: into overtime. Rams kicker Greg Zerline made a history with

1927
01:36:20,600 --> 01:36:23,519
Speaker 1: a fifty seven yard game winning field goal over the Saints,

1928
01:36:23,600 --> 01:36:27,160
Speaker 1: the longest game winning kick in playoff history. The Patriots

1929
01:36:27,160 --> 01:36:29,640
Speaker 1: were the only offense on the field during ot in

1930
01:36:29,680 --> 01:36:32,240
Speaker 1: the thirty seven thirty one win over the Chiefs. This

1931
01:36:32,320 --> 01:36:34,599
Speaker 1: is the third straight Super Bowl appearance for the Patriots

1932
01:36:34,600 --> 01:36:37,360
Speaker 1: and Super Bowl Sunday is February third. The Pro Bowl

1933
01:36:37,439 --> 01:36:41,320
Speaker 1: takes place this Sunday in Orlando. Despite a gut wrenching

1934
01:36:41,320 --> 01:36:44,280
Speaker 1: twenty six twenty three overtime lost yesterday, Saints quarterback Drew

1935
01:36:44,320 --> 01:36:47,120
Speaker 1: Breese says he still plans on returning in twenty nineteen.

1936
01:36:47,680 --> 01:36:50,640
Speaker 1: Brees has one year remaining on the two year contracts

1937
01:36:50,640 --> 01:36:53,880
Speaker 1: signed last offseason. He's forty years old and finishes his

1938
01:36:54,000 --> 01:36:57,919
Speaker 1: eighteenth season with a personal best one hundred and fifteen

1939
01:36:58,040 --> 01:37:02,200
Speaker 1: point seven passer rating and pleading seventy four point four

1940
01:37:02,280 --> 01:37:05,439
Speaker 1: percent of his passes. The NFL announced this morning the

1941
01:37:05,479 --> 01:37:08,639
Speaker 1: five game slate of international games for the twenty nineteen season.

1942
01:37:08,720 --> 01:37:15,320
Speaker 1: London will host four games. Panthers, Buccaneers, Bears, Raiders, Bengals, Rams, Texans, Jaguars,

1943
01:37:15,400 --> 01:37:17,720
Speaker 1: and Mexico City will get another shot to host of

1944
01:37:17,800 --> 01:37:21,280
Speaker 1: Chiefs Chargers. Game dates and kickoff times will be announced

1945
01:37:21,280 --> 01:37:23,840
Speaker 1: in the spring. According to a report, the Dolphins are

1946
01:37:23,880 --> 01:37:27,000
Speaker 1: expected to hire Patrick Graham as their new defensive coordinator.

1947
01:37:27,160 --> 01:37:30,479
Speaker 1: Graham as the Packers run game coordinator inside linebacker coach

1948
01:37:30,680 --> 01:37:33,760
Speaker 1: and had been an NFL assistant for ten seasons. The

1949
01:37:33,800 --> 01:37:35,880
Speaker 1: Savers are on a bye week for the All Star break.

1950
01:37:35,920 --> 01:37:38,080
Speaker 1: Captain Jack Eichel and Jeff Skinner were named to the

1951
01:37:38,080 --> 01:37:42,559
Speaker 1: All Star Team. Skinner on the last man in bought ballot. Skills.

1952
01:37:42,560 --> 01:37:45,559
Speaker 1: Competition is set for this Friday, and the two nineteen

1953
01:37:45,600 --> 01:37:48,520
Speaker 1: Honda NHL All Star Game will be played on Saturday.

1954
01:37:48,840 --> 01:37:51,000
Speaker 1: Serena Williams is continuing to the next round on the

1955
01:37:51,000 --> 01:37:53,960
Speaker 1: twenty nineteen Australian Open after her three set victory over

1956
01:37:54,040 --> 01:37:57,920
Speaker 1: world number one Simona hallup yesterday. Williams will face number

1957
01:37:57,960 --> 01:38:02,920
Speaker 1: seven Corralina Pliskova in the quarterfinals on Wednesday. Top seeded

1958
01:38:03,040 --> 01:38:07,040
Speaker 1: Novak Djokovic plans to the advances to the quarterfinals for

1959
01:38:07,040 --> 01:38:10,120
Speaker 1: the first time since twenty sixteen. He faces his next opponent,

1960
01:38:10,439 --> 01:38:15,080
Speaker 1: Number eight, Key Nishikori on Wednesday. And that is your

1961
01:38:15,080 --> 01:38:18,200
Speaker 1: sports update. Steve Tasker along with Andrew Peters, Welcome back

1962
01:38:18,240 --> 01:38:20,320
Speaker 1: to One Bill's Live, presented by Kalida Health. From One

1963
01:38:20,320 --> 01:38:22,519
Speaker 1: Bill's Drive. We've been talking about the NFL playoffs and

1964
01:38:22,600 --> 01:38:24,559
Speaker 1: Pete held down the Ford for a couple of hours

1965
01:38:24,560 --> 01:38:28,680
Speaker 1: as I was in transit from New Orleans and it

1966
01:38:28,800 --> 01:38:30,559
Speaker 1: was on site. We can take your calls. He can

1967
01:38:30,600 --> 01:38:31,880
Speaker 1: give us a call if you want to jump in

1968
01:38:31,920 --> 01:38:33,559
Speaker 1: on this eight h three oh five fifty and then

1969
01:38:33,600 --> 01:38:37,120
Speaker 1: outside Buffalo one eight eight eight five fifty two five fifty.

1970
01:38:37,439 --> 01:38:39,960
Speaker 1: You can also tweet at us at one Bills Live.

1971
01:38:40,600 --> 01:38:44,800
Speaker 1: Pet so much about this yesterday and I think it's

1972
01:38:44,800 --> 01:38:48,520
Speaker 1: gonna go down. We said it going into this weekends

1973
01:38:48,520 --> 01:38:51,360
Speaker 1: the best weekend in football. It's the most fun he gets.

1974
01:38:51,360 --> 01:38:55,240
Speaker 1: You get good teams playing well and they're playing for

1975
01:38:55,320 --> 01:38:57,160
Speaker 1: something really important, a trip to the Super Bowl. Do

1976
01:38:57,200 --> 01:38:58,720
Speaker 1: you think it lived up to it? Well, I'll tell

1977
01:38:58,720 --> 01:39:03,360
Speaker 1: you this and all, I watched the games yesterday because

1978
01:39:03,720 --> 01:39:05,840
Speaker 1: there was potential that you may have been a few

1979
01:39:05,840 --> 01:39:09,080
Speaker 1: minutes late, right there was. And they just said this

1980
01:39:09,280 --> 01:39:11,320
Speaker 1: the hozon, if by chance you need to host the

1981
01:39:11,360 --> 01:39:14,160
Speaker 1: first half hour of OBL, could you do it? And

1982
01:39:14,200 --> 01:39:17,160
Speaker 1: I said, yeah, I'm gonna watch the football games just too,

1983
01:39:17,479 --> 01:39:20,320
Speaker 1: just so I can, you know, at least, bluff my

1984
01:39:20,360 --> 01:39:23,120
Speaker 1: way through a conversation. But I'll tell you this for

1985
01:39:23,240 --> 01:39:26,120
Speaker 1: someone who I don't think I've watched an AFC or

1986
01:39:26,240 --> 01:39:30,800
Speaker 1: NFC conference game, championship game ever, maybe it could be

1987
01:39:30,840 --> 01:39:33,720
Speaker 1: a safe bet. But yesterday, and I don't know how

1988
01:39:33,720 --> 01:39:37,440
Speaker 1: many games in playoffs in the NFL going to overtime.

1989
01:39:37,800 --> 01:39:39,880
Speaker 1: I know I watched. You know, during the season, you

1990
01:39:39,880 --> 01:39:42,519
Speaker 1: see scores, your scoreboard watching, you're watching the Bills other

1991
01:39:42,560 --> 01:39:45,679
Speaker 1: games going on at one o'clock. There aren't many overtime games.

1992
01:39:45,840 --> 01:39:47,920
Speaker 1: There was a handful of season, and I feel like

1993
01:39:48,080 --> 01:39:52,559
Speaker 1: yesterday I witnessed and again I had zero emotion in

1994
01:39:52,600 --> 01:39:55,240
Speaker 1: any of it. I left my emotion out of the

1995
01:39:55,280 --> 01:39:58,000
Speaker 1: Patriots game, and I understood where everybody was coming from.

1996
01:39:58,040 --> 01:39:59,960
Speaker 1: I read the tweets. A lot of local media guys

1997
01:40:01,040 --> 01:40:03,680
Speaker 1: in girls cheering for the Chiefs to just end the

1998
01:40:04,080 --> 01:40:07,640
Speaker 1: end this you know, amazing run for the Patriots, And

1999
01:40:07,680 --> 01:40:10,560
Speaker 1: I gotta tell you, in a long winded way, I

2000
01:40:11,040 --> 01:40:14,240
Speaker 1: was I felt very lucky that yesterday I was forced

2001
01:40:14,280 --> 01:40:17,840
Speaker 1: to watch watched two football games because they were two

2002
01:40:18,439 --> 01:40:24,120
Speaker 1: of the greatest games that I've watched as a casual fan. Yeah, yeah,

2003
01:40:24,120 --> 01:40:27,200
Speaker 1: I can honestly say that. I mean, you know, last

2004
01:40:27,280 --> 01:40:30,840
Speaker 1: year's Bills playoff game was probably the most into a

2005
01:40:30,880 --> 01:40:33,120
Speaker 1: football game that I've ever been because back when the

2006
01:40:33,160 --> 01:40:36,120
Speaker 1: Bills were in the playoffs before two thousand, I was

2007
01:40:36,680 --> 01:40:39,880
Speaker 1: a young kid playing hockey up in Canada. Obviously knew

2008
01:40:39,880 --> 01:40:41,960
Speaker 1: about your teams and the Bills and heard of all

2009
01:40:42,000 --> 01:40:45,880
Speaker 1: the great players and everything, but I wasn't fully into it.

2010
01:40:45,960 --> 01:40:48,519
Speaker 1: And I gotta tell you last year's playoff game against

2011
01:40:48,560 --> 01:40:50,920
Speaker 1: the Bills was was by far the most I've ever

2012
01:40:51,000 --> 01:40:53,679
Speaker 1: cheered for a game. But yesterday was the greatest day

2013
01:40:53,680 --> 01:40:56,599
Speaker 1: of football I've watched. And you know what, Steve, I'm

2014
01:40:56,640 --> 01:40:59,320
Speaker 1: gonna go a step further because I watched playoffs every

2015
01:40:59,400 --> 01:41:01,160
Speaker 1: year I've been doing in this job for six seven

2016
01:41:01,240 --> 01:41:03,320
Speaker 1: years in the in the NHL. I know you've become

2017
01:41:03,360 --> 01:41:06,240
Speaker 1: a huge NHL fan that was out to me was

2018
01:41:06,320 --> 01:41:09,960
Speaker 1: some of the most exciting elimination games that I've I've

2019
01:41:10,000 --> 01:41:13,200
Speaker 1: watched ever, whether it be hockey. You know, you want

2020
01:41:13,200 --> 01:41:16,080
Speaker 1: to go overtime Stanley Cup Game seven, or you want

2021
01:41:16,080 --> 01:41:19,160
Speaker 1: to go conference finals or whatever, it's amazing. Yesterday I

2022
01:41:19,160 --> 01:41:21,400
Speaker 1: felt like we were spoiled but also fellty. We got

2023
01:41:21,479 --> 01:41:23,320
Speaker 1: ripped off at the end to Yeah, it's hard. It's

2024
01:41:23,360 --> 01:41:25,800
Speaker 1: hard to come out of that unscathed and not feel

2025
01:41:25,840 --> 01:41:28,720
Speaker 1: like there was something that kept it for being this

2026
01:41:28,960 --> 01:41:31,920
Speaker 1: enormously awesome weekend. It was the officiating and then either

2027
01:41:32,000 --> 01:41:34,880
Speaker 1: overtime rules and how one team kind of dominated in

2028
01:41:34,960 --> 01:41:36,840
Speaker 1: overtime never the other team never really got a chance

2029
01:41:36,880 --> 01:41:39,599
Speaker 1: to contribute. We've got we have a caller and he's

2030
01:41:39,600 --> 01:41:43,400
Speaker 1: been waiting for about twenty minutes from Tonawant, North Tonawanda. Hello,

2031
01:41:43,400 --> 01:41:44,639
Speaker 1: you're on the air. What have you got you want?

2032
01:41:44,680 --> 01:41:47,599
Speaker 1: You think all three phases of the football team should

2033
01:41:47,600 --> 01:41:51,080
Speaker 1: be on in overtime? Tell us about that? Who is this?

2034
01:41:51,120 --> 01:41:57,960
Speaker 1: First of all? Yeah, I agree that that forty five

2035
01:41:57,960 --> 01:42:01,000
Speaker 1: guys are on a team. You got offense, defense, and

2036
01:42:01,080 --> 01:42:05,559
Speaker 1: special teams. Okay, you're you're special teams kick off, They're

2037
01:42:05,600 --> 01:42:08,679
Speaker 1: part of the game. Your defense gets out there, they're

2038
01:42:08,760 --> 01:42:10,639
Speaker 1: part of the game. They don't hold up that they're

2039
01:42:10,640 --> 01:42:14,000
Speaker 1: into the bargain. But your offense is a strong a

2040
01:42:14,080 --> 01:42:16,719
Speaker 1: suit of your whole team. They sit on a bench

2041
01:42:16,800 --> 01:42:21,120
Speaker 1: watching while this happens because of a coin toss. And

2042
01:42:21,520 --> 01:42:24,599
Speaker 1: you know, God forbid a long pass, but a penalty

2043
01:42:25,520 --> 01:42:27,640
Speaker 1: such as well, it wasn't a long one in in

2044
01:42:28,000 --> 01:42:31,559
Speaker 1: New Orleans. AP penalty like that could cost you a game.

2045
01:42:32,200 --> 01:42:35,280
Speaker 1: If you're at your thirty yard line and somebody launches

2046
01:42:35,360 --> 01:42:39,599
Speaker 1: up a eighty verse sixty yard bomb and the ref

2047
01:42:40,680 --> 01:42:42,759
Speaker 1: there isn't no interference and the reftro as a flag.

2048
01:42:43,560 --> 01:42:45,400
Speaker 1: I mean, you could win on a field goal on

2049
01:42:45,479 --> 01:42:49,400
Speaker 1: a painted call. You Now, if if your offense doesn't

2050
01:42:49,439 --> 01:42:53,800
Speaker 1: get on the field, then I don't understand why. In baseball,

2051
01:42:54,160 --> 01:42:55,960
Speaker 1: you know, if you score one run at the top

2052
01:42:56,000 --> 01:42:59,000
Speaker 1: of the inning, well that's what do you do if

2053
01:42:59,000 --> 01:43:00,840
Speaker 1: you hit a home run? The games over that the

2054
01:43:00,920 --> 01:43:03,160
Speaker 1: other team doesn't get a chance to go to bead

2055
01:43:04,680 --> 01:43:07,280
Speaker 1: On hockey, why don't you just relate to a coin

2056
01:43:07,320 --> 01:43:10,800
Speaker 1: flip instead of doing three on three, Ye go to

2057
01:43:10,880 --> 01:43:13,120
Speaker 1: a coin flip and it's a shootout. So what are

2058
01:43:13,120 --> 01:43:14,479
Speaker 1: you saying what are you saying. So if a team

2059
01:43:14,520 --> 01:43:17,920
Speaker 1: goes down, goes right down the field and scores a touchdown,

2060
01:43:17,920 --> 01:43:19,920
Speaker 1: and then I'll tell you this. The reason, the reason

2061
01:43:19,960 --> 01:43:25,920
Speaker 1: they evolved into this spot, Bob, is that they didn't

2062
01:43:25,960 --> 01:43:27,960
Speaker 1: want these games to take six hours to play if

2063
01:43:27,960 --> 01:43:30,360
Speaker 1: they went into overtime. We had a ton of games

2064
01:43:30,360 --> 01:43:32,240
Speaker 1: that were closed and they've started gooting a lot of

2065
01:43:32,280 --> 01:43:33,640
Speaker 1: tie games or a lot of games that did go

2066
01:43:33,680 --> 01:43:36,000
Speaker 1: into overtime. They still didn't want to get outside very

2067
01:43:36,040 --> 01:43:38,519
Speaker 1: far outside the three hour windows. So if you started

2068
01:43:38,560 --> 01:43:41,080
Speaker 1: having playing an extra quarter, it's an extra forty five

2069
01:43:41,160 --> 01:43:43,600
Speaker 1: minute minutes of football, and all of a sudden you

2070
01:43:43,600 --> 01:43:45,559
Speaker 1: got a four hour game. And they didn't want to

2071
01:43:45,560 --> 01:43:47,519
Speaker 1: do that. Well, let me ask you this. Well, that's

2072
01:43:47,520 --> 01:43:49,880
Speaker 1: okay for the that's okay for the regular season, But

2073
01:43:50,040 --> 01:43:55,639
Speaker 1: in hockey, in playoff overtime, you go to somebody's scores

2074
01:43:55,680 --> 01:43:57,680
Speaker 1: and both teams are out there and you get a

2075
01:43:57,760 --> 01:44:01,120
Speaker 1: chance to you know, well, yeah, it's hard to compare

2076
01:44:01,160 --> 01:44:03,920
Speaker 1: hockey and baseball to football, because you're right, there are

2077
01:44:03,960 --> 01:44:06,080
Speaker 1: teams that switch off and on. You don't have free

2078
01:44:06,120 --> 01:44:08,320
Speaker 1: substitution like you do in hockey, and in baseball it's

2079
01:44:08,360 --> 01:44:10,599
Speaker 1: a top and bottom of an inning. So I get

2080
01:44:10,640 --> 01:44:12,880
Speaker 1: all of that. Thanks for calling, Bob, Steve, does this week?

2081
01:44:12,960 --> 01:44:17,160
Speaker 1: Does this weekend? Um? Oh? Hey? Oops? Hold on, yeah,

2082
01:44:17,200 --> 01:44:18,960
Speaker 1: go ahead, what do you I think? I lost him?

2083
01:44:19,000 --> 01:44:22,400
Speaker 1: Hopes that's my faull Bob so accidentally intentional? No, I

2084
01:44:22,439 --> 01:44:23,760
Speaker 1: thought I thought he was done. But no, I thought

2085
01:44:23,760 --> 01:44:25,640
Speaker 1: he was done too, and I was. You know. His

2086
01:44:25,720 --> 01:44:27,760
Speaker 1: comments led me to a question, and I guess I

2087
01:44:28,920 --> 01:44:30,439
Speaker 1: do they look at this now in the off season?

2088
01:44:30,640 --> 01:44:33,400
Speaker 1: Did yesterday? Oh yeah, listen, does yesterday make them go

2089
01:44:33,439 --> 01:44:35,000
Speaker 1: into the off season same week? You might have to

2090
01:44:35,000 --> 01:44:36,840
Speaker 1: fix something here. The thing about the NFL, I've said

2091
01:44:36,840 --> 01:44:38,360
Speaker 1: it a lot. The one thing that makes the NFL

2092
01:44:38,400 --> 01:44:40,519
Speaker 1: the eight hundred pound gorilla is the fact that the

2093
01:44:40,800 --> 01:44:45,160
Speaker 1: game's not sacred. They the ownership, the league, the competition committee.

2094
01:44:45,160 --> 01:44:48,400
Speaker 1: They don't care if the fans want something different, if

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01:44:48,439 --> 01:44:50,680
Speaker 1: the football guys think it'll make the game better, that

2096
01:44:50,840 --> 01:44:53,200
Speaker 1: change the rules overnight. They don't care. They really don't.

2097
01:44:53,240 --> 01:44:54,880
Speaker 1: That's one of the things that makes the league great.

2098
01:44:55,040 --> 01:44:57,400
Speaker 1: If the fans want something, the league will do its

2099
01:44:57,439 --> 01:44:59,519
Speaker 1: best to give it to him real quick. And one

2100
01:44:59,560 --> 01:45:01,880
Speaker 1: off season and a lot of times is all it takes.

2101
01:45:01,880 --> 01:45:04,760
Speaker 1: Certainly they were up. They were held up for decades

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01:45:05,360 --> 01:45:08,120
Speaker 1: with replay as soon as they started putting the game

2103
01:45:08,160 --> 01:45:09,960
Speaker 1: on TV. And then they'd come back and show the

2104
01:45:10,000 --> 01:45:13,160
Speaker 1: game and replay and you say, well, what's the you know,

2105
01:45:13,320 --> 01:45:15,320
Speaker 1: like we're doing today, what's the official calling or what's

2106
01:45:15,360 --> 01:45:17,439
Speaker 1: the official not calling? How's this not call? They said, well,

2107
01:45:17,439 --> 01:45:20,320
Speaker 1: you know what, we should because our fans are bummed

2108
01:45:20,320 --> 01:45:22,320
Speaker 1: that they know it was wrong, and nobody else, you know,

2109
01:45:22,400 --> 01:45:24,080
Speaker 1: even the guys on the field can't go back and

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01:45:24,120 --> 01:45:26,920
Speaker 1: look at it. Back then, they didn't have replays on

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01:45:26,960 --> 01:45:29,640
Speaker 1: the scoreboards. You know, we had it at home. We

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01:45:29,720 --> 01:45:32,439
Speaker 1: had replay at home watching sitting on the couch before

2113
01:45:32,479 --> 01:45:36,599
Speaker 1: the people in the stadium had replay. So they changed

2114
01:45:36,640 --> 01:45:37,840
Speaker 1: that and they said, okay, we got to take a

2115
01:45:37,840 --> 01:45:38,960
Speaker 1: look and see if we can do it. So they

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01:45:39,000 --> 01:45:40,320
Speaker 1: put it in. They put it in. I don't know

2117
01:45:40,320 --> 01:45:42,240
Speaker 1: if you remember this, PD. They put replay in once

2118
01:45:42,280 --> 01:45:43,680
Speaker 1: for about four or five years and then took it

2119
01:45:43,680 --> 01:45:45,960
Speaker 1: out because it wasn't working. I didn't know that it

2120
01:45:45,800 --> 01:45:48,519
Speaker 1: wasn't working. Well then, how long ago was that? That was?

2121
01:45:48,640 --> 01:45:51,240
Speaker 1: During my career was in the in the late eighties,

2122
01:45:51,280 --> 01:45:53,240
Speaker 1: early nineties, they put it in, they took it out,

2123
01:45:53,280 --> 01:45:55,479
Speaker 1: and they'd put it back in, like after two years.

2124
01:45:55,760 --> 01:45:57,320
Speaker 1: When they got it to the point where they could

2125
01:45:57,360 --> 01:45:59,519
Speaker 1: have it on the sidelines and do it quick and

2126
01:45:59,560 --> 01:46:03,000
Speaker 1: they had where they didn't have to they took it

2127
01:46:03,040 --> 01:46:05,160
Speaker 1: out of the off the field basically the first time

2128
01:46:05,200 --> 01:46:06,360
Speaker 1: they did it. They said, hey, if it needs to

2129
01:46:06,360 --> 01:46:08,720
Speaker 1: be reviewed, they're gonna get a buzzer. They're gonna review it.

2130
01:46:08,720 --> 01:46:10,519
Speaker 1: And there was no time limit. It would take him

2131
01:46:10,520 --> 01:46:12,559
Speaker 1: like ten minutes to figure it out and go back

2132
01:46:12,600 --> 01:46:14,519
Speaker 1: and forth and get all the angles. And then they

2133
01:46:14,520 --> 01:46:16,479
Speaker 1: put a time limit on it. They put the official

2134
01:46:16,520 --> 01:46:18,519
Speaker 1: on the field in charge of it with a with

2135
01:46:18,560 --> 01:46:21,280
Speaker 1: a voice over the top, and then and it went quicker.

2136
01:46:21,320 --> 01:46:24,519
Speaker 1: Are there any plays in your career, not necessarily involving you,

2137
01:46:24,760 --> 01:46:27,240
Speaker 1: but your team that you look back and you think, man,

2138
01:46:27,280 --> 01:46:28,880
Speaker 1: if they had replay a lot of things could have

2139
01:46:28,880 --> 01:46:31,760
Speaker 1: been different. There's one Bills play that's that that that

2140
01:46:32,040 --> 01:46:35,640
Speaker 1: ye stands in my home run throwback? Maybe the Tennessee

2141
01:46:35,760 --> 01:46:38,840
Speaker 1: Uh is that don bb No? No, no, the Don

2142
01:46:38,880 --> 01:46:41,479
Speaker 1: Bby chasing him down? Yeah yeah no no no, no,

2143
01:46:41,479 --> 01:46:44,000
Speaker 1: no didn't Maybe it wasn't don Biebe. I have to

2144
01:46:44,000 --> 01:46:47,479
Speaker 1: excuse my my knowledge ahead, But in that game against Tennessee,

2145
01:46:47,520 --> 01:46:49,679
Speaker 1: that was the comeback game. Yeah that No, it wasn't

2146
01:46:49,680 --> 01:46:52,120
Speaker 1: the comeback game. It was the throw home run throwback

2147
01:46:52,200 --> 01:46:55,439
Speaker 1: nineteen ninety eight, where it might have been a lateral

2148
01:46:55,520 --> 01:46:57,200
Speaker 1: the guy threw it across the field and it might

2149
01:46:57,240 --> 01:46:58,840
Speaker 1: have been a lateral, might have been backwards, there might

2150
01:46:58,880 --> 01:47:01,840
Speaker 1: have been sideways. They thought it was forward sixteen seconds ago,

2151
01:47:01,880 --> 01:47:04,960
Speaker 1: and they get a miracle touchdown on a kickoff return.

2152
01:47:05,040 --> 01:47:07,400
Speaker 1: So you guys got screwed. Well, there's a lot of

2153
01:47:07,400 --> 01:47:09,240
Speaker 1: people who think that. Yeah, I was as my first

2154
01:47:09,320 --> 01:47:12,320
Speaker 1: year retired, So okay, so you were. Well. The one

2155
01:47:12,360 --> 01:47:14,080
Speaker 1: that I'm thinking about is I felt like in that

2156
01:47:14,120 --> 01:47:17,160
Speaker 1: comeback game somebody stepped out of bounds and had had

2157
01:47:17,200 --> 01:47:19,160
Speaker 1: there been oh yeah, beebs, yeah it was baby right

2158
01:47:19,960 --> 01:47:21,920
Speaker 1: out of bounds. He'll tell you that. Yeah. No, I know,

2159
01:47:22,000 --> 01:47:24,479
Speaker 1: And I for me, you know, like people, you know,

2160
01:47:24,560 --> 01:47:26,479
Speaker 1: you want to live in the review era or you

2161
01:47:26,560 --> 01:47:28,799
Speaker 1: live in the old era where they didn't have review.

2162
01:47:29,120 --> 01:47:31,720
Speaker 1: I am much more in favor of human error by

2163
01:47:31,760 --> 01:47:34,400
Speaker 1: the official than I am going back and slowing a

2164
01:47:34,479 --> 01:47:36,880
Speaker 1: game down. I mean, maybe there's a way you can

2165
01:47:36,920 --> 01:47:40,879
Speaker 1: better the game that way. But for me review review yesterday,

2166
01:47:40,920 --> 01:47:44,840
Speaker 1: I felt was just messing with my mojo of of

2167
01:47:45,040 --> 01:47:48,760
Speaker 1: watching those games. I just felt all another review. But

2168
01:47:48,840 --> 01:47:51,479
Speaker 1: you're you're of the mindset you want to get it right. Yeah,

2169
01:47:51,640 --> 01:47:53,599
Speaker 1: here's that You're like, You're like, you know, if Murph

2170
01:47:53,640 --> 01:47:55,680
Speaker 1: sits in this chair that I'm sitting in every day

2171
01:47:55,760 --> 01:47:58,200
Speaker 1: and said they need to get rid of it completely,

2172
01:47:58,920 --> 01:48:02,800
Speaker 1: you shut that ring or off completely. Professionals, they need

2173
01:48:02,840 --> 01:48:05,760
Speaker 1: to You're important. Yeah, cuch, because I forgot I was

2174
01:48:05,760 --> 01:48:09,439
Speaker 1: in an airport. Um. The the thing about it is

2175
01:48:09,520 --> 01:48:11,599
Speaker 1: Mrs says, just do away with it completely, just live

2176
01:48:11,640 --> 01:48:14,519
Speaker 1: with what they call um. And there's something to be

2177
01:48:14,560 --> 01:48:16,960
Speaker 1: said for that. But it's hard to live like that

2178
01:48:17,000 --> 01:48:20,320
Speaker 1: when you have to watch play after play after play

2179
01:48:21,160 --> 01:48:23,240
Speaker 1: and the ripple effects that might have been could have been,

2180
01:48:23,280 --> 01:48:25,160
Speaker 1: and then you get a different ripple effect because later

2181
01:48:25,200 --> 01:48:27,160
Speaker 1: on they called it a different way. You know, it's

2182
01:48:27,520 --> 01:48:29,640
Speaker 1: hard to live. It is hard to live like So

2183
01:48:29,720 --> 01:48:33,200
Speaker 1: really it comes down to too, I guess, I mean, unfortunately,

2184
01:48:33,320 --> 01:48:35,960
Speaker 1: something of this magnitude that has so much at stake

2185
01:48:36,040 --> 01:48:38,200
Speaker 1: comes down to personal preference. I mean, do you want

2186
01:48:38,200 --> 01:48:39,680
Speaker 1: to get it right and slow the game down or

2187
01:48:39,680 --> 01:48:41,479
Speaker 1: do you want to just saying too how it looked

2188
01:48:41,479 --> 01:48:44,080
Speaker 1: to the to the human eye, you know, during the

2189
01:48:44,080 --> 01:48:47,519
Speaker 1: game at that speed and you know, hey, raps missed one.

2190
01:48:47,600 --> 01:48:50,360
Speaker 1: But that's the nature of the sport. Well, and here's

2191
01:48:50,360 --> 01:48:52,680
Speaker 1: the thing, it's a sport in general. The moment they

2192
01:48:52,680 --> 01:48:56,200
Speaker 1: started this video review, the replay system and any replay

2193
01:48:56,240 --> 01:48:57,760
Speaker 1: system will take it. And I've said this a bunch

2194
01:48:57,760 --> 01:49:01,960
Speaker 1: on this show too. It's not it's not gonna solve

2195
01:49:02,000 --> 01:49:04,519
Speaker 1: all your problems. It's gonna just create different ones. Now

2196
01:49:04,560 --> 01:49:06,760
Speaker 1: it's like what Now, we went for years and still

2197
01:49:06,800 --> 01:49:10,479
Speaker 1: have for years, say well, what's a catch because you

2198
01:49:10,479 --> 01:49:12,479
Speaker 1: see the guy grab it and two feet and now

2199
01:49:12,560 --> 01:49:15,760
Speaker 1: they've they've because all these things happen so fast. Well,

2200
01:49:15,800 --> 01:49:19,360
Speaker 1: what I can't get over, Steve, is how many things

2201
01:49:19,560 --> 01:49:22,920
Speaker 1: happen in a game that are so close that you

2202
01:49:23,040 --> 01:49:26,519
Speaker 1: cannot tell. I mean, something as simple as the Julian Elman.

2203
01:49:28,200 --> 01:49:30,280
Speaker 1: I'm sitting there and I'm thinking, first angle, oh he

2204
01:49:30,400 --> 01:49:33,880
Speaker 1: touched it. This is amazing. Everyone in Bill's country is

2205
01:49:33,920 --> 01:49:36,840
Speaker 1: absolutely thrilled. Right and then you know you look at

2206
01:49:36,840 --> 01:49:38,960
Speaker 1: the other angles and it doesn't touch him, and I'm

2207
01:49:38,960 --> 01:49:41,000
Speaker 1: just thinking, you know, you're sitting there, and that's a

2208
01:49:41,040 --> 01:49:43,200
Speaker 1: play where you're like, take the emotion out of it.

2209
01:49:43,240 --> 01:49:44,760
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, you're kind of like, we could

2210
01:49:44,800 --> 01:49:46,720
Speaker 1: have been jerks there for saying that he touched it.

2211
01:49:46,720 --> 01:49:47,920
Speaker 1: And then you go and you look at all the

2212
01:49:47,920 --> 01:49:50,120
Speaker 1: other angles and if you had just gone by what

2213
01:49:50,160 --> 01:49:52,760
Speaker 1: the ref had said, it was that he touched and

2214
01:49:52,880 --> 01:49:55,160
Speaker 1: Edelman was adamant that he didn't touch it. But you

2215
01:49:55,200 --> 01:49:57,320
Speaker 1: can't go based on what the athletes saying, because they're

2216
01:49:57,320 --> 01:49:59,880
Speaker 1: all gonna say they didn't do it. But I don't know, man,

2217
01:50:00,000 --> 01:50:03,080
Speaker 1: I this this to me is it's you know, it's

2218
01:50:03,160 --> 01:50:06,000
Speaker 1: it's touchy feely. I've I've mixed emotions on it. I

2219
01:50:06,040 --> 01:50:10,439
Speaker 1: can't say that I've necessarily been burned by a review

2220
01:50:10,800 --> 01:50:14,160
Speaker 1: or my team, but you know, some rules and rule changes.

2221
01:50:14,200 --> 01:50:17,320
Speaker 1: I mean, puck over the glass rule game seventh Carolina.

2222
01:50:17,400 --> 01:50:20,400
Speaker 1: We all remember that, but you know, Saber fans remember

2223
01:50:20,400 --> 01:50:22,240
Speaker 1: the in the crease rule in the review and all

2224
01:50:22,240 --> 01:50:24,479
Speaker 1: that stuff. But I don't know. I have mixed emotions

2225
01:50:24,479 --> 01:50:26,000
Speaker 1: on this, And I was going to say something. The

2226
01:50:26,000 --> 01:50:28,760
Speaker 1: thurman might have been Lorenzo, I can't remember one of them,

2227
01:50:28,760 --> 01:50:30,880
Speaker 1: but I completely botched it. I didn't even get to

2228
01:50:30,880 --> 01:50:33,519
Speaker 1: the question. But I was going to ask um, what

2229
01:50:33,640 --> 01:50:37,880
Speaker 1: about taking an official and adding one upstairs. I don't

2230
01:50:37,880 --> 01:50:39,559
Speaker 1: know if it's true. They do. They got a ton

2231
01:50:39,600 --> 01:50:41,439
Speaker 1: of them upstairs that can make the call right there

2232
01:50:41,439 --> 01:50:43,599
Speaker 1: on the field. So they don't like even in hockey,

2233
01:50:43,600 --> 01:50:45,439
Speaker 1: where they look down, they're like, boom, you weren't watching

2234
01:50:45,439 --> 01:50:47,639
Speaker 1: behind the scenes. You have a headshot number twenty one.

2235
01:50:48,000 --> 01:50:50,600
Speaker 1: You know, here's the fish has come over. Look at

2236
01:50:50,640 --> 01:50:53,400
Speaker 1: the screen. And what happens is they have a real conversation, goes, hey,

2237
01:50:53,439 --> 01:50:56,480
Speaker 1: here's what we're like. Cleet Blakman was the Chiefs Patriots

2238
01:50:56,479 --> 01:50:58,559
Speaker 1: guy last night. The guy come over and say, hey, Cleet,

2239
01:50:58,720 --> 01:51:00,840
Speaker 1: here's what you're looking at. Look at this angle right here,

2240
01:51:00,880 --> 01:51:02,800
Speaker 1: there's you know, he'll they cut to the chase. But

2241
01:51:02,960 --> 01:51:06,400
Speaker 1: what's his name, Clea Cleats? Like is his name? His

2242
01:51:06,479 --> 01:51:10,000
Speaker 1: name's Cleet Cleat. Good dude too. He's one of my favorites.

2243
01:51:10,280 --> 01:51:14,160
Speaker 1: All right, all right, we've got we've got Larry from

2244
01:51:14,280 --> 01:51:17,280
Speaker 1: Lackawanna and he wants to talk about the overtime rules.

2245
01:51:17,320 --> 01:51:19,720
Speaker 1: To Larry, go ahead. You're on with Andrew Peters and

2246
01:51:19,720 --> 01:51:21,600
Speaker 1: Steve Tasker on one Bill's Lot. Go ahead, what's on

2247
01:51:21,640 --> 01:51:25,360
Speaker 1: your mind, nice Steve Um. Well, first of all, I

2248
01:51:26,160 --> 01:51:29,080
Speaker 1: noticed back in your heyday you were able to uncle basketball.

2249
01:51:29,080 --> 01:51:31,720
Speaker 1: I don't know if that was true, what that is

2250
01:51:31,760 --> 01:51:36,080
Speaker 1: true back in the heyday. Second of all, I once

2251
01:51:36,160 --> 01:51:39,479
Speaker 1: played your part in Cleveland at a basketball game and

2252
01:51:39,640 --> 01:51:43,559
Speaker 1: everyone thought I was you. Oh, there you go. I

2253
01:51:43,600 --> 01:51:46,519
Speaker 1: have similarities. I played football. I played minor league ball

2254
01:51:46,600 --> 01:51:49,439
Speaker 1: for years and one year of college. But those days

2255
01:51:49,439 --> 01:51:53,439
Speaker 1: are over. But thirdly, I couldn't help notice out of

2256
01:51:53,520 --> 01:51:57,080
Speaker 1: the four teams that played yesterday, didn't it bother you

2257
01:51:57,160 --> 01:52:01,439
Speaker 1: to see how many starters those four teams were ex

2258
01:52:01,520 --> 01:52:05,080
Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills players? Yeah? There was some, There's no question.

2259
01:52:05,200 --> 01:52:07,439
Speaker 1: I think one of the things that that's interesting, Larry,

2260
01:52:07,479 --> 01:52:08,880
Speaker 1: you bring that up. There was a ton of them.

2261
01:52:08,880 --> 01:52:14,320
Speaker 1: There's draft picks, players, um, backup players, role players. Robie Coleman,

2262
01:52:14,360 --> 01:52:17,719
Speaker 1: the guy who committed the personal or the uh non

2263
01:52:17,800 --> 01:52:21,200
Speaker 1: call paston Afferance was a former Buffalo Bill. Sammy Watkins.

2264
01:52:21,800 --> 01:52:26,280
Speaker 1: Robert Woods Wait that's the same Robi. Yeah. Now he

2265
01:52:26,400 --> 01:52:30,439
Speaker 1: changed his name right before he left here. He get married. No, no,

2266
01:52:31,040 --> 01:52:33,800
Speaker 1: I don't know, Alford, but he added it on and

2267
01:52:33,840 --> 01:52:37,800
Speaker 1: then uh um. Then the other the linebacker for the

2268
01:52:37,840 --> 01:52:41,280
Speaker 1: Chiefs who whose name escapes me right now? Um and

2269
01:52:41,400 --> 01:52:43,800
Speaker 1: uh he was a first round or second round draft

2270
01:52:43,800 --> 01:52:45,719
Speaker 1: pick by the Buffalo Bills who went to the Chiefs.

2271
01:52:45,880 --> 01:52:49,559
Speaker 1: Um when Rex was here and I side, no, no, no,

2272
01:52:49,600 --> 01:52:53,559
Speaker 1: that was not Uh. We had d Ford, Sammy Watkins.

2273
01:52:53,600 --> 01:52:56,599
Speaker 1: You have Robert Woods going to the Super Bowl. Um,

2274
01:52:56,880 --> 01:53:00,880
Speaker 1: Gilmore was Steph Gilmore Yeprete was a first round draft

2275
01:53:00,920 --> 01:53:02,760
Speaker 1: pick for the Buffalo Bills. Yeah, so there's a ton

2276
01:53:02,760 --> 01:53:04,680
Speaker 1: of guys. Larry, what else do you what's your point

2277
01:53:04,720 --> 01:53:08,080
Speaker 1: about all those guys? Well, why why why couldn't I

2278
01:53:08,240 --> 01:53:11,000
Speaker 1: just said that the organization can't hold on to these

2279
01:53:11,040 --> 01:53:13,400
Speaker 1: players for some reason or another. I mean here they

2280
01:53:13,400 --> 01:53:15,720
Speaker 1: didn't want to play in cold weather, and I mean,

2281
01:53:15,760 --> 01:53:19,120
Speaker 1: you know, I don't understand why we just can't keep

2282
01:53:19,320 --> 01:53:22,920
Speaker 1: things together like certain organizations in the league do. Yeah.

2283
01:53:22,960 --> 01:53:24,680
Speaker 1: I agree, And there's a lot of reasons for it.

2284
01:53:24,760 --> 01:53:28,720
Speaker 1: Some of it's economic at that point, but also it

2285
01:53:28,760 --> 01:53:30,200
Speaker 1: does come down to a little bit like I know

2286
01:53:30,240 --> 01:53:33,160
Speaker 1: a couple of those like I know that Robert Woods,

2287
01:53:33,160 --> 01:53:36,200
Speaker 1: he wanted to play home at home. You know, So

2288
01:53:36,360 --> 01:53:38,559
Speaker 1: they all have their different reasons. They're all different, different,

2289
01:53:39,240 --> 01:53:41,920
Speaker 1: different reasons and Reggie Raglan is the linebacker's name for

2290
01:53:41,920 --> 01:53:44,400
Speaker 1: the Chiefs. Reggie wasn't fitting the system that they were

2291
01:53:44,400 --> 01:53:47,479
Speaker 1: putting in here and was traded for that reason. And

2292
01:53:47,960 --> 01:53:50,559
Speaker 1: some of it, some of these guys, not all of them,

2293
01:53:50,560 --> 01:53:53,680
Speaker 1: but and plus Marcel Darius on the Jacksonville Jaguars and

2294
01:53:53,720 --> 01:53:57,160
Speaker 1: some other things. Cordy Glenn. You can go down the

2295
01:53:57,160 --> 01:53:59,000
Speaker 1: list of guys that were here just a handful of

2296
01:53:59,080 --> 01:54:01,160
Speaker 1: years ago that aren't there. Some of it was all

2297
01:54:01,200 --> 01:54:04,240
Speaker 1: trading and horse trading and draft picks and moving sideways

2298
01:54:04,240 --> 01:54:05,920
Speaker 1: and up and down to the Drays are on every

2299
01:54:05,920 --> 01:54:08,200
Speaker 1: team in order to yeah, in order to get in

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01:54:08,280 --> 01:54:11,120
Speaker 1: order to get Josh Allen and get that way every year,

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01:54:11,360 --> 01:54:14,000
Speaker 1: whether it's now with free agency, the way it is,

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01:54:14,040 --> 01:54:16,800
Speaker 1: this is the way sports sports are. New guys are

2303
01:54:16,800 --> 01:54:19,439
Speaker 1: on other teams. I mean, look at look at like

2304
01:54:19,479 --> 01:54:21,040
Speaker 1: the same can be said for the Rams of the

2305
01:54:21,120 --> 01:54:23,479
Speaker 1: Rams losing, like, oh, well Watkins is on the Chiefs,

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01:54:23,479 --> 01:54:26,479
Speaker 1: you know, or yeah, that's true. Like I mean, it's

2307
01:54:26,520 --> 01:54:29,200
Speaker 1: no different. I think every team. You just recognize it

2308
01:54:29,240 --> 01:54:31,680
Speaker 1: because you're in Buffalo and these guys move on and

2309
01:54:31,680 --> 01:54:34,520
Speaker 1: you're watching them on a bigger stage now. But a

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01:54:34,560 --> 01:54:36,160
Speaker 1: lot of it too, And I just I'll go back

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01:54:36,160 --> 01:54:37,919
Speaker 1: to hockey. This doesn't even have to be a football

2312
01:54:38,240 --> 01:54:40,920
Speaker 1: expert point. It's just what happens all the time. It's

2313
01:54:40,960 --> 01:54:44,000
Speaker 1: pro sports in general, and that is development too. I mean,

2314
01:54:44,240 --> 01:54:47,440
Speaker 1: you get a lot of these guys, young players, some

2315
01:54:47,520 --> 01:54:49,640
Speaker 1: of them pan out, some of them don't. Some of

2316
01:54:49,680 --> 01:54:52,240
Speaker 1: them want to be here, some of them don't. I mean,

2317
01:54:52,240 --> 01:54:54,520
Speaker 1: look at Marshawn Lynch. He never would have gotten that

2318
01:54:54,560 --> 01:54:57,240
Speaker 1: Marshawn Lynch here, never in a million years, because he

2319
01:54:57,280 --> 01:55:01,360
Speaker 1: didn't want to be here. He wasn't happy here. Then

2320
01:55:01,400 --> 01:55:03,400
Speaker 1: that's part of it. I mean, you need guys like

2321
01:55:03,440 --> 01:55:07,000
Speaker 1: Lorenzo Alexander, yourself, Thurman Thomas, guys that want to be here,

2322
01:55:07,040 --> 01:55:09,160
Speaker 1: want to win here, and you know, and if they're

2323
01:55:09,200 --> 01:55:12,920
Speaker 1: not here, if those guys aren't here, the point about

2324
01:55:12,920 --> 01:55:14,600
Speaker 1: it is that they probably weren't ever putting out the

2325
01:55:14,640 --> 01:55:16,920
Speaker 1: effort to show that they wanted to stay here. Something

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01:55:17,000 --> 01:55:20,200
Speaker 1: was different. Yeah, So you know, whether it's ability or

2327
01:55:20,400 --> 01:55:22,680
Speaker 1: you know, they move on and they figure it out.

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01:55:22,720 --> 01:55:24,880
Speaker 1: But you know what, I'm happy for some of those guys,

2329
01:55:24,880 --> 01:55:26,880
Speaker 1: like I'm happy for Robert Woods. And I don't know

2330
01:55:26,920 --> 01:55:29,600
Speaker 1: why we you know, we begrudge guys, you know, when

2331
01:55:29,600 --> 01:55:31,920
Speaker 1: they move on and have success. Fans do that a

2332
01:55:31,920 --> 01:55:34,280
Speaker 1: little quicker than players do, because the players kind of

2333
01:55:34,280 --> 01:55:36,320
Speaker 1: have an insights. Hey, he's not he doesn't turn into

2334
01:55:36,360 --> 01:55:38,280
Speaker 1: a bad guy because he's on another team. He's still

2335
01:55:38,320 --> 01:55:40,240
Speaker 1: You're still a guy. You know. They end up playing

2336
01:55:40,240 --> 01:55:41,760
Speaker 1: the finger and saying, well, why couldn't he you know,

2337
01:55:41,800 --> 01:55:43,280
Speaker 1: why couldn't he stay here? And I mean, well, I

2338
01:55:43,320 --> 01:55:45,160
Speaker 1: get it, like yeah, and I get that to Robert

2339
01:55:45,200 --> 01:55:46,880
Speaker 1: wanted to go home. I mean he was my neighbor,

2340
01:55:46,960 --> 01:55:50,000
Speaker 1: and you know, I mean I didn't even think about

2341
01:55:50,000 --> 01:55:52,040
Speaker 1: this until yesterday when I'm watching he makes it catching.

2342
01:55:52,120 --> 01:55:54,400
Speaker 1: I'm like, man, like Robert Woods could go to the

2343
01:55:54,440 --> 01:55:56,280
Speaker 1: super Bowl, all of a sudden, I'm cheering for I

2344
01:55:56,280 --> 01:55:58,160
Speaker 1: was cheering for the Saints. Now I went to the Rams.

2345
01:55:58,160 --> 01:56:00,520
Speaker 1: I completely forgot, but I mean that was a reason

2346
01:56:00,560 --> 01:56:03,600
Speaker 1: for me to cheer for him. But I get happy

2347
01:56:03,640 --> 01:56:07,120
Speaker 1: for things like that. I understand fans steve when they

2348
01:56:07,360 --> 01:56:09,920
Speaker 1: get angry at things like that, but that's pro sports

2349
01:56:09,920 --> 01:56:12,680
Speaker 1: in general. And hopefully one day you're gonna look, you

2350
01:56:12,720 --> 01:56:14,880
Speaker 1: could say that about you know, al teams will say

2351
01:56:14,920 --> 01:56:16,520
Speaker 1: that about other players, and this team when they come

2352
01:56:16,560 --> 01:56:18,120
Speaker 1: here and this team is good, they're gonna be like Man,

2353
01:56:18,400 --> 01:56:20,920
Speaker 1: we had him here a long time ago. So Nature

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01:56:20,960 --> 01:56:22,960
Speaker 1: of the Beast. Steve Tasker and Andrew Peters here with

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01:56:23,120 --> 01:56:26,440
Speaker 1: One Bills Live. Pete stitting in for us, Murphis Traveling.

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01:56:26,440 --> 01:56:27,800
Speaker 1: We're gonna take a break right here. We got a

2357
01:56:27,840 --> 01:56:29,520
Speaker 1: couple of calls we're gonna get to. We've got NFL

2358
01:56:29,560 --> 01:56:31,600
Speaker 1: true falls coming up. After the break, you can call

2359
01:56:31,680 --> 01:56:33,080
Speaker 1: us again if you can get in. If we get

2360
01:56:33,080 --> 01:56:34,840
Speaker 1: to you, we will eight or three oh five fifty

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Speaker 1: or one eighty eight five fifty two five fifty after

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Speaker 1: the break. You're listening to One Bills Live from One

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01:56:39,880 --> 01:56:42,520
Speaker 1: Bill's Drive presented by Kalida Health. And this is Buffalo

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01:56:42,520 --> 01:56:57,440
Speaker 1: Bills Radio. Welcome back in One Bill's Live presented by

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01:56:57,480 --> 01:57:00,080
Speaker 1: Collida Health. Steve task along with Andrew Peters here in

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01:57:00,120 --> 01:57:04,520
Speaker 1: our One Bill's Live studios and One Bills Drive. We've

2367
01:57:04,520 --> 01:57:07,360
Speaker 1: been taking calls about to officiating and all the NFL

2368
01:57:07,800 --> 01:57:11,680
Speaker 1: Championship weekend happenings from yesterday, the Patriots and the Rams

2369
01:57:11,680 --> 01:57:14,920
Speaker 1: in the Super Bowl. Lots to talk about um and

2370
01:57:15,000 --> 01:57:18,080
Speaker 1: a lot of outrage around the league and the fandom.

2371
01:57:18,520 --> 01:57:21,160
Speaker 1: We got people calling in. You just waited there. You know.

2372
01:57:21,600 --> 01:57:24,480
Speaker 1: They said that the Chiefs Patriots game was the highest

2373
01:57:24,560 --> 01:57:28,360
Speaker 1: rated game and of the entire year save for the

2374
01:57:28,400 --> 01:57:31,680
Speaker 1: Super Bowl last last January. They said it was They

2375
01:57:31,680 --> 01:57:33,960
Speaker 1: said everybody wanted to see that game, and I got

2376
01:57:34,320 --> 01:57:37,080
Speaker 1: a high high even after the paid after the Saints

2377
01:57:37,080 --> 01:57:41,080
Speaker 1: game ended in controversy with the officials, the ratings were

2378
01:57:41,320 --> 01:57:45,920
Speaker 1: skyrocketed for the Patriots Chiefs game. To Tom Brady shut

2379
01:57:45,960 --> 01:57:50,600
Speaker 1: down his Instagram Instagram now and listen, I don't I'm

2380
01:57:50,640 --> 01:57:52,400
Speaker 1: not going to get into this. Uh you know, I

2381
01:57:52,440 --> 01:57:54,960
Speaker 1: hate Tom Brady because I live in Buffalo. I mean,

2382
01:57:55,000 --> 01:57:58,440
Speaker 1: I share the sentiments of I mean, we have been

2383
01:58:00,360 --> 01:58:03,400
Speaker 1: able to watch probably one of the greatest you know,

2384
01:58:03,480 --> 01:58:06,320
Speaker 1: performed for the last fifteen years. I mean, you can

2385
01:58:06,360 --> 01:58:07,720
Speaker 1: look at it that way, you can look at it

2386
01:58:07,760 --> 01:58:10,800
Speaker 1: the other way. But these videos that he's just sending

2387
01:58:10,800 --> 01:58:16,560
Speaker 1: out of himself after a game or the next day.

2388
01:58:17,800 --> 01:58:21,960
Speaker 1: All right, So if you're great, you're great, would you're great?

2389
01:58:22,040 --> 01:58:24,880
Speaker 1: Be great? Do it quietly? Do it quietly? I get you.

2390
01:58:24,920 --> 01:58:27,480
Speaker 1: We're here here at one Bill's Drive. We're taking calls.

2391
01:58:27,520 --> 01:58:30,040
Speaker 1: We're gonna talk to Mo. Mo is gone. MO might

2392
01:58:30,080 --> 01:58:32,520
Speaker 1: have gone around the deep end. He thinks maybe that

2393
01:58:32,560 --> 01:58:35,440
Speaker 1: all NFL games are completely fixed. Mode, Do you really

2394
01:58:35,440 --> 01:58:38,840
Speaker 1: believe that? Well? Do you see the lines? How close

2395
01:58:38,840 --> 01:58:43,080
Speaker 1: they keep these lines for the games? Yeah? So three

2396
01:58:43,160 --> 01:58:45,960
Speaker 1: points yesterday? Yeah, but you gotta he give the bookies

2397
01:58:46,000 --> 01:58:49,320
Speaker 1: some credit. Okay, they deserve some credit for their knowledge.

2398
01:58:49,480 --> 01:58:52,000
Speaker 1: Oh something, what's going on? Mode? Do you know why

2399
01:58:52,000 --> 01:58:58,440
Speaker 1: they set the lines the way they do? Right? They don't.

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01:58:58,600 --> 01:59:00,720
Speaker 1: They don't better. They don't set the lines because of

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01:59:00,720 --> 01:59:03,480
Speaker 1: the game. They set the lines because of you, but

2402
01:59:03,880 --> 01:59:06,960
Speaker 1: not not Tom Brady. The NFL package they come out

2403
01:59:06,960 --> 01:59:09,200
Speaker 1: with that there was never overtimes like there are now

2404
01:59:09,560 --> 01:59:12,000
Speaker 1: the NFL package started all of sudden, there's overtime. So

2405
01:59:12,120 --> 01:59:17,160
Speaker 1: these people buy this stuff. Well yeah but that yeah, okay,

2406
01:59:17,280 --> 01:59:23,040
Speaker 1: wait wait, wait, yes, take your tinfoil hat off. It's

2407
01:59:23,080 --> 01:59:25,560
Speaker 1: not gonna have It's not They're not fixed, believe me.

2408
01:59:25,720 --> 01:59:27,520
Speaker 1: In the league. And so we had somebody early on

2409
01:59:27,560 --> 01:59:31,360
Speaker 1: that said, you know, everybody, the league really wanted LA

2410
01:59:31,480 --> 01:59:33,920
Speaker 1: and New England in the in the Super Bowl. They

2411
01:59:33,920 --> 01:59:36,800
Speaker 1: really wanted it that Listen, they don't. They don't do

2412
01:59:36,880 --> 01:59:40,240
Speaker 1: any of this stuff by like altering this and forget

2413
01:59:40,240 --> 01:59:42,680
Speaker 1: what the officials are the officials earned their way to

2414
01:59:42,720 --> 01:59:45,520
Speaker 1: this game just like the players and coaches did. They've

2415
01:59:45,560 --> 01:59:47,520
Speaker 1: got stuff on the line. You think that guys thought

2416
01:59:47,520 --> 01:59:50,680
Speaker 1: there was an eight man out conspiracy back it was

2417
01:59:50,680 --> 01:59:53,280
Speaker 1: at the Chicago White Sox back. I mean, all right,

2418
01:59:53,520 --> 01:59:56,040
Speaker 1: now you got thirty two owners in this too, MO,

2419
01:59:56,240 --> 01:59:58,320
Speaker 1: what do you got? What's what? What else? I want?

2420
01:59:58,320 --> 02:00:01,760
Speaker 1: What you're on? MO? Right? When super Bowl la rams watch?

2421
02:00:02,960 --> 02:00:05,440
Speaker 1: Then got Hey, what are you gonna do if it

2422
02:00:05,480 --> 02:00:07,720
Speaker 1: comes down? What are you gonna do if? MO? What

2423
02:00:07,760 --> 02:00:09,680
Speaker 1: are you gonna do if if the super Bowl comes

2424
02:00:09,680 --> 02:00:13,000
Speaker 1: down to a coin flip and Tom Brady wins? Again, Wow,

2425
02:00:13,160 --> 02:00:15,400
Speaker 1: that shouldn't happen. They need to change the rule in

2426
02:00:15,440 --> 02:00:18,280
Speaker 1: the next two weeks so that what happened yesterday doesn't

2427
02:00:18,280 --> 02:00:21,880
Speaker 1: happen against Could you imagine if yesterday were a Super

2428
02:00:21,920 --> 02:00:26,920
Speaker 1: Bowl game? Imagine that. Imagine that they've already been in there.

2429
02:00:27,040 --> 02:00:29,240
Speaker 1: Bugs me that we lost Team seven on a power

2430
02:00:29,280 --> 02:00:31,720
Speaker 1: play to a puck over the glass. Thanks Brian Campbell,

2431
02:00:31,920 --> 02:00:35,040
Speaker 1: And you're telling me that going into the super Bowl

2432
02:00:35,080 --> 02:00:38,480
Speaker 1: in two weeks that this could be a possible scenario.

2433
02:00:38,600 --> 02:00:41,800
Speaker 1: I want to know your reactions, Steve after that happened

2434
02:00:42,000 --> 02:00:45,280
Speaker 1: after somebody gets one quession and overtime in the Super

2435
02:00:45,280 --> 02:00:50,880
Speaker 1: Bowl and you have riots. Listen, literally riots, I was there.

2436
02:00:51,320 --> 02:00:55,400
Speaker 1: I was there. I was let me just equated to hockey.

2437
02:00:55,440 --> 02:00:57,400
Speaker 1: I was there when one hundred and fifty three goals

2438
02:00:57,560 --> 02:01:00,080
Speaker 1: were disallowed because the guy had his toe in the

2439
02:01:00,080 --> 02:01:02,560
Speaker 1: the crease. And then in the Best in Game six

2440
02:01:02,560 --> 02:01:04,600
Speaker 1: and Stanley Cup Finals, the guy has his whole skate

2441
02:01:04,680 --> 02:01:06,880
Speaker 1: in there leaning up. Again, he's in the crease with

2442
02:01:07,080 --> 02:01:09,680
Speaker 1: like one hundred and fifty three other guys and that counted.

2443
02:01:10,240 --> 02:01:12,520
Speaker 1: I was there, so yeah, but no, but nobody else

2444
02:01:12,560 --> 02:01:18,440
Speaker 1: got the memo though. I just choke. I got your memo, right,

2445
02:01:18,480 --> 02:01:22,120
Speaker 1: I'm apologizing in sarcasm for the league, all right, like

2446
02:01:22,320 --> 02:01:25,040
Speaker 1: that will be one of the fans never forget. But Steve,

2447
02:01:25,120 --> 02:01:29,080
Speaker 1: come on, you gotta think about that for second. Listen.

2448
02:01:29,160 --> 02:01:33,480
Speaker 1: That's the thing. You don't want your big moments like

2449
02:01:33,600 --> 02:01:36,640
Speaker 1: yesterday to happen like that. You just don't. And if

2450
02:01:36,640 --> 02:01:38,760
Speaker 1: you can make it not happen, or you can make it,

2451
02:01:38,960 --> 02:01:41,640
Speaker 1: you can take away these problems, particularly in the playoffs.

2452
02:01:41,840 --> 02:01:43,760
Speaker 1: Nobody cares if the game goes forty five minutes over,

2453
02:01:43,800 --> 02:01:45,680
Speaker 1: But do you think when they're writing the rules for overtime,

2454
02:01:45,680 --> 02:01:49,840
Speaker 1: that they even think that there's going to be overtime, Like, sure, yeah,

2455
02:01:49,840 --> 02:01:51,800
Speaker 1: they do. I'm in and they take it seriously. They

2456
02:01:51,800 --> 02:01:54,800
Speaker 1: try and get it right. But then you get these

2457
02:01:54,880 --> 02:01:57,240
Speaker 1: you know, then you get a game where, like I said,

2458
02:01:57,280 --> 02:01:59,200
Speaker 1: everybody doesn't want it to end. You got this guy

2459
02:01:59,200 --> 02:02:01,000
Speaker 1: everybody wants to see play. They want to see the

2460
02:02:01,000 --> 02:02:03,080
Speaker 1: Star new Star play, and he doesn't get a hit

2461
02:02:03,120 --> 02:02:05,640
Speaker 1: take the field at the most critical time, and that stinks.

2462
02:02:05,920 --> 02:02:08,680
Speaker 1: That's they don't care about. They don't care about the who.

2463
02:02:08,920 --> 02:02:10,600
Speaker 1: Most people don't care about wins are lost. They just

2464
02:02:10,680 --> 02:02:12,920
Speaker 1: want to see more of that game. They're they're bummed

2465
02:02:12,920 --> 02:02:15,600
Speaker 1: at Tom Brady, and because it was Tom it adds

2466
02:02:15,640 --> 02:02:17,960
Speaker 1: all something to it, you know, and you know that's

2467
02:02:18,080 --> 02:02:19,920
Speaker 1: no it goes all right, all right, we gotta move.

2468
02:02:20,000 --> 02:02:21,640
Speaker 1: I think I think you're right, though. I think because

2469
02:02:21,680 --> 02:02:25,200
Speaker 1: it's Tom Brady that people are better. People are better everyone,

2470
02:02:25,240 --> 02:02:27,720
Speaker 1: but Patriot fans are better because I think they always

2471
02:02:27,720 --> 02:02:30,880
Speaker 1: feel that the Patriots get the calls. You know, maybe

2472
02:02:30,920 --> 02:02:32,680
Speaker 1: maybe it seems that way. We got another call from

2473
02:02:32,680 --> 02:02:35,080
Speaker 1: Dennis in Indiana. He wants to talk about the pass

2474
02:02:35,120 --> 02:02:39,560
Speaker 1: interference in the RAMS. Patriots game, Rams Saints game. Dennis,

2475
02:02:39,600 --> 02:02:40,800
Speaker 1: what do you think they need? You think they need

2476
02:02:40,840 --> 02:02:45,160
Speaker 1: to be able to challenge just about anything. Well, yes,

2477
02:02:45,320 --> 02:02:47,320
Speaker 1: that's one of the reasons I called. And they're really

2478
02:02:47,360 --> 02:02:53,280
Speaker 1: interested in Steve Sasker's opinion on this because he has

2479
02:02:53,320 --> 02:02:58,240
Speaker 1: a son playing that Hamilton. Canadian Football League challenge roughing

2480
02:02:58,400 --> 02:03:03,400
Speaker 1: the pastor penalties. You can challenge interference calls. Uh, there

2481
02:03:03,520 --> 02:03:07,000
Speaker 1: was a non roughing the pastor roughing the pastor penalty

2482
02:03:07,080 --> 02:03:11,920
Speaker 1: called in the second game last night. Could that have

2483
02:03:12,000 --> 02:03:14,920
Speaker 1: been reviewed? Should that have been reviewed? Here's here's what

2484
02:03:14,960 --> 02:03:16,880
Speaker 1: you're talking about, Dennis Knight. I know exactly what you're

2485
02:03:16,920 --> 02:03:19,360
Speaker 1: doing in Canadian football and this has been talked about

2486
02:03:19,360 --> 02:03:23,200
Speaker 1: in the NFL too. They leave it up to the coaches.

2487
02:03:23,240 --> 02:03:27,480
Speaker 1: They can challenge absolutely anything they want, even a non call.

2488
02:03:27,600 --> 02:03:31,440
Speaker 1: So yesterday in the Rams Saints game, if he had

2489
02:03:31,480 --> 02:03:34,800
Speaker 1: if that rule would have been in effect, Sean Payton

2490
02:03:34,840 --> 02:03:36,840
Speaker 1: could have run down that sideline, thrown that out there

2491
02:03:36,840 --> 02:03:39,560
Speaker 1: and say that was past interference on number twenty three

2492
02:03:40,080 --> 02:03:42,320
Speaker 1: of the Rams. I want it reviewed. They could review

2493
02:03:42,360 --> 02:03:44,720
Speaker 1: it and call a penalty. Now, the problem with the

2494
02:03:44,720 --> 02:03:48,640
Speaker 1: slippery slope that that is is this say, Sean Payton

2495
02:03:48,800 --> 02:03:53,280
Speaker 1: comes in and on the next the next time, the

2496
02:03:53,280 --> 02:03:55,800
Speaker 1: time that happened in the third quarter or whatever, the

2497
02:03:56,040 --> 02:04:00,040
Speaker 1: Rams light them up for a big play, and on

2498
02:04:00,120 --> 02:04:02,200
Speaker 1: Payton says, wait a minute, on the other side of

2499
02:04:02,200 --> 02:04:06,360
Speaker 1: the field, their numbers twenty two was holding our guy,

2500
02:04:06,520 --> 02:04:08,560
Speaker 1: and they'll go back and readfute and they'll take the

2501
02:04:08,600 --> 02:04:11,720
Speaker 1: big play off the board, just because you had eyes

2502
02:04:11,760 --> 02:04:13,280
Speaker 1: on the field that said away from the play that

2503
02:04:13,400 --> 02:04:18,320
Speaker 1: was inconsequential. It happens you can when you can challenge anything,

2504
02:04:18,400 --> 02:04:22,160
Speaker 1: which means no calls as well, that opens up a

2505
02:04:22,200 --> 02:04:24,200
Speaker 1: can of worms that takes you down a road that

2506
02:04:24,440 --> 02:04:26,840
Speaker 1: changes the game in a big way. And the ripple

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Speaker 1: effects are something I think the league's very shy about.

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02:04:29,200 --> 02:04:31,760
Speaker 1: So that's well, that's why they don't want to make

2509
02:04:31,840 --> 02:04:35,440
Speaker 1: everything reviewable. Yes, but I think they only get one

2510
02:04:35,600 --> 02:04:38,200
Speaker 1: challenge now. I don't even think they get two. I

2511
02:04:38,240 --> 02:04:40,560
Speaker 1: think they get one. I'm not positive that. And I

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02:04:40,680 --> 02:04:42,800
Speaker 1: think at least it used to be that it had

2513
02:04:42,840 --> 02:04:45,040
Speaker 1: to be decided within one minute and I take a

2514
02:04:45,040 --> 02:04:47,600
Speaker 1: half hour to figure it out. Have to be an

2515
02:04:47,600 --> 02:04:50,440
Speaker 1: obvious call, So only is a really obvious ones a

2516
02:04:50,520 --> 02:04:53,560
Speaker 1: gift called right if you set the limit. And here's

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02:04:53,600 --> 02:04:55,880
Speaker 1: another thing too that happens and Dennis, I'm gonna let

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02:04:55,920 --> 02:04:57,920
Speaker 1: you go. And here's one another thing that happens to Dennis.

2519
02:04:57,920 --> 02:05:00,080
Speaker 1: When they do make those all these coaches hang You

2520
02:05:00,160 --> 02:05:03,040
Speaker 1: might know this PD if you've watched Canadian football. The

2521
02:05:03,120 --> 02:05:05,400
Speaker 1: coaches will always hang on to their challenge until the

2522
02:05:05,440 --> 02:05:08,160
Speaker 1: third quarter. So they'll use it sometime in the third

2523
02:05:08,240 --> 02:05:12,600
Speaker 1: quarter in a decisive, big game, deciding play because they

2524
02:05:12,600 --> 02:05:14,040
Speaker 1: don't want to get stuck with it at the end

2525
02:05:14,040 --> 02:05:15,640
Speaker 1: of the game and not have a chance to use it.

2526
02:05:16,080 --> 02:05:17,560
Speaker 1: And they want to make sure that in the third

2527
02:05:17,600 --> 02:05:19,680
Speaker 1: quarter it's deep enough into the game that they know,

2528
02:05:20,120 --> 02:05:22,200
Speaker 1: you know that it's going to be crucial, more crucial

2529
02:05:22,280 --> 02:05:24,080
Speaker 1: in it would be in the first quarter, less time

2530
02:05:24,120 --> 02:05:26,840
Speaker 1: to overcome it. And what happens is the third quarter.

2531
02:05:26,840 --> 02:05:29,560
Speaker 1: If a Canadian Football League game takes an hour and

2532
02:05:29,560 --> 02:05:32,360
Speaker 1: a half, it takes forever to get through it because

2533
02:05:32,360 --> 02:05:34,840
Speaker 1: they challenge it and if they win the challenge, they

2534
02:05:34,880 --> 02:05:36,880
Speaker 1: get it back. Yeah, you get to keep it. You

2535
02:05:36,920 --> 02:05:39,400
Speaker 1: gotta keep the challenge so you know it can go

2536
02:05:39,440 --> 02:05:41,440
Speaker 1: on and on because and it gets easier, Well, what

2537
02:05:41,440 --> 02:05:43,440
Speaker 1: would you rather do? Draw out one quarter? Or the

2538
02:05:43,440 --> 02:05:47,840
Speaker 1: whole game. You know, well, yeah, you're you're a funny guy.

2539
02:05:47,920 --> 02:05:49,920
Speaker 1: I will say this though, I don't think I've seen

2540
02:05:49,960 --> 02:05:54,520
Speaker 1: a picture of Sean Payton since the well is the

2541
02:05:54,800 --> 02:05:58,160
Speaker 1: whole thing about Bounties since bounty Gate. Oh yeah, man,

2542
02:05:58,280 --> 02:06:01,760
Speaker 1: time has time very good to him. Listen. That's essentially

2543
02:06:02,040 --> 02:06:04,160
Speaker 1: it's interesting to listen. That's a hard that's a hard

2544
02:06:04,160 --> 02:06:09,080
Speaker 1: thing to get suspended for an entire year, which he did. Um. Yeah,

2545
02:06:09,080 --> 02:06:10,760
Speaker 1: that amazing that he was able to rebound though, like

2546
02:06:10,840 --> 02:06:12,800
Speaker 1: keep the team around. And you know, I'll tell you

2547
02:06:12,880 --> 02:06:15,120
Speaker 1: another thing too. You talk about the patience of an organization.

2548
02:06:15,160 --> 02:06:18,400
Speaker 1: The Saints put up with three seven and nine years

2549
02:06:18,400 --> 02:06:20,280
Speaker 1: in a row from Sean Payton and his staff before

2550
02:06:20,320 --> 02:06:21,720
Speaker 1: they came in last year and it hit it out

2551
02:06:21,760 --> 02:06:23,960
Speaker 1: of the park once again. They stuck with him through

2552
02:06:24,040 --> 02:06:28,040
Speaker 1: a real down down period for three years, and so

2553
02:06:28,080 --> 02:06:31,760
Speaker 1: many ownerships and so many ownership groups and so many

2554
02:06:32,040 --> 02:06:34,760
Speaker 1: organizations would have kicked him to the curb not only

2555
02:06:34,800 --> 02:06:37,160
Speaker 1: after Boundy Gate, but also after his first or second

2556
02:06:37,280 --> 02:06:39,920
Speaker 1: and for sure his third seven and nine season. It

2557
02:06:39,960 --> 02:06:43,200
Speaker 1: was a real testament to the patience of the Patriots organization.

2558
02:06:43,240 --> 02:06:44,960
Speaker 1: So you gotta tip your hat to him, because it's

2559
02:06:45,000 --> 02:06:48,040
Speaker 1: turned into a it has turned into a Super Bowl

2560
02:06:48,040 --> 02:06:50,200
Speaker 1: berth for the second time. We got a guy that's

2561
02:06:50,200 --> 02:06:53,839
Speaker 1: been holding for almost forty five minutes. Thomas on Grand Island.

2562
02:06:53,840 --> 02:06:56,240
Speaker 1: He also wants to talk about the overtime rules. Thomas,

2563
02:06:56,280 --> 02:07:00,200
Speaker 1: what do you got? Hi? Thanks for taking my call.

2564
02:07:00,200 --> 02:07:05,480
Speaker 1: What I am is excuse me? Um? What if right now,

2565
02:07:05,640 --> 02:07:09,120
Speaker 1: if you win the coin flip, uh, ninety percent? And

2566
02:07:09,160 --> 02:07:12,960
Speaker 1: I think maybe the New Orleans was the exception, I say,

2567
02:07:12,960 --> 02:07:17,000
Speaker 1: but ninety percent of the time now they defer and

2568
02:07:17,000 --> 02:07:19,960
Speaker 1: because the team wants the ball in the second half,

2569
02:07:20,440 --> 02:07:24,120
Speaker 1: well yeah, the opening of the game. Yeah yeah, So

2570
02:07:24,240 --> 02:07:26,960
Speaker 1: what if you win that coin cost? What if what

2571
02:07:27,080 --> 02:07:32,440
Speaker 1: if the overtime possession of overtime is called at the

2572
02:07:32,600 --> 02:07:35,640
Speaker 1: very first coin flip? Yeah, I mean, I that's a

2573
02:07:35,680 --> 02:07:38,360
Speaker 1: good idea. I mean because then if you defer, that

2574
02:07:38,400 --> 02:07:40,400
Speaker 1: means the other team will get a choice. And if

2575
02:07:40,440 --> 02:07:42,520
Speaker 1: the other team gets the choice in overtime, is that

2576
02:07:42,520 --> 02:07:44,839
Speaker 1: where you're saying, is that you're where you're going with it? Well,

2577
02:07:44,920 --> 02:07:50,080
Speaker 1: you whoever wins the coin toss, can they can they

2578
02:07:50,120 --> 02:07:52,600
Speaker 1: can take the ball right then and then they would

2579
02:07:52,600 --> 02:07:57,320
Speaker 1: get the ball in overtime. If that happened, if they

2580
02:07:57,400 --> 02:08:00,720
Speaker 1: defer the then they lose that. But but here, but listen,

2581
02:08:01,160 --> 02:08:05,360
Speaker 1: I just thinking that's gonna impact fourth quarter decision making,

2582
02:08:05,640 --> 02:08:07,440
Speaker 1: you know, because now do you go for a field

2583
02:08:07,480 --> 02:08:09,640
Speaker 1: goal to tie? Do you go for the win? Because

2584
02:08:09,680 --> 02:08:12,120
Speaker 1: you know now who's going to get the ball? Yeah,

2585
02:08:12,160 --> 02:08:14,000
Speaker 1: that's a good that's a really good point. And that's

2586
02:08:14,080 --> 02:08:16,520
Speaker 1: something to you know. I kind of like, I gotta

2587
02:08:16,560 --> 02:08:19,240
Speaker 1: tell you, I kind of like that, Patrick, I kind

2588
02:08:19,280 --> 02:08:22,240
Speaker 1: of like that thought. If just one coin fla coin

2589
02:08:22,280 --> 02:08:24,480
Speaker 1: flip for the game, and it goes all the way

2590
02:08:24,480 --> 02:08:27,320
Speaker 1: through overtime, and it has ramifications on what you choose, Well,

2591
02:08:27,400 --> 02:08:30,680
Speaker 1: how about how about no coin flip at all for overtime.

2592
02:08:30,680 --> 02:08:32,640
Speaker 1: How about you just cut the chord with the original

2593
02:08:32,680 --> 02:08:35,440
Speaker 1: clock and then say each team gets a possession, you

2594
02:08:35,480 --> 02:08:37,600
Speaker 1: do what you do with it. If you score, If

2595
02:08:37,600 --> 02:08:40,000
Speaker 1: you get first possession, you score three, the other team

2596
02:08:40,040 --> 02:08:42,640
Speaker 1: knows they score. If they score three, the other team

2597
02:08:42,640 --> 02:08:44,800
Speaker 1: gets the ball back. If they score seven, they win.

2598
02:08:44,840 --> 02:08:46,920
Speaker 1: I I don't understand why that's so hard. Why can't Well,

2599
02:08:47,040 --> 02:08:49,560
Speaker 1: here's the thing. Given possession, but what happens when the

2600
02:08:49,640 --> 02:08:53,800
Speaker 1: team comes back scores three, the other teams scores three,

2601
02:08:53,840 --> 02:08:56,080
Speaker 1: then you lose it, and then you go back and

2602
02:08:56,120 --> 02:08:58,880
Speaker 1: score a touchdown and the other team comes. You know

2603
02:08:58,920 --> 02:09:01,919
Speaker 1: what I mean, they score touchdown, we keep playing. Otherwise

2604
02:09:01,920 --> 02:09:03,680
Speaker 1: we go home. You know, I guess it's not even

2605
02:09:03,720 --> 02:09:06,080
Speaker 1: the touchdown. You'd have to make the extra kick too,

2606
02:09:06,160 --> 02:09:08,440
Speaker 1: Like I mean, so you kind of just so as

2607
02:09:08,440 --> 02:09:10,880
Speaker 1: long as they keep matching scores, sure, I mean, so

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02:09:10,880 --> 02:09:12,680
Speaker 1: what if they get so one team would get two

2609
02:09:12,720 --> 02:09:15,040
Speaker 1: and then you get one. If yesterday went into double

2610
02:09:15,080 --> 02:09:18,760
Speaker 1: overtime with with touchdown scored, are we not sitting there

2611
02:09:18,800 --> 02:09:23,720
Speaker 1: like you're talking like everybody you're talking serious, I mean,

2612
02:09:23,760 --> 02:09:27,000
Speaker 1: not serious revenue. There's already serious revenue. I'm you're still there.

2613
02:09:27,280 --> 02:09:30,400
Speaker 1: Go ahead, Thomas and over what you're doing. Overtime is

2614
02:09:30,440 --> 02:09:33,720
Speaker 1: a different issue once you get there. Yeah, it becomes

2615
02:09:33,760 --> 02:09:36,240
Speaker 1: a different issue because the coin flip has already been decided.

2616
02:09:36,360 --> 02:09:38,600
Speaker 1: You know who's going to get the football? The first

2617
02:09:38,640 --> 02:09:43,440
Speaker 1: team if they kick a field goal, um or if

2618
02:09:43,520 --> 02:09:46,440
Speaker 1: you stop a team from scoring at all and then

2619
02:09:46,480 --> 02:09:49,880
Speaker 1: you kick a field goal, you win. I I would

2620
02:09:49,880 --> 02:09:53,240
Speaker 1: love to see the logic train behind that would be

2621
02:09:53,280 --> 02:09:58,760
Speaker 1: in favor of give both teams an equal opportunity to

2622
02:09:58,880 --> 02:10:02,320
Speaker 1: either to do one or the other. Well, yeah, what

2623
02:10:02,440 --> 02:10:05,120
Speaker 1: the thing is, and thanks for thanks for Carl Thoms.

2624
02:10:05,120 --> 02:10:07,240
Speaker 1: We're gonna take a break in just a second. But yeah,

2625
02:10:07,280 --> 02:10:08,920
Speaker 1: the thing is. And that's why they got the rules

2626
02:10:08,920 --> 02:10:10,280
Speaker 1: to where they are now. They wanted both teams to

2627
02:10:10,320 --> 02:10:12,600
Speaker 1: have a chance to score unless one team just took

2628
02:10:12,600 --> 02:10:14,040
Speaker 1: it down and scored. I got it back, I got

2629
02:10:14,040 --> 02:10:16,040
Speaker 1: the idea of all ideas. Well, I'm gonna tell you

2630
02:10:16,040 --> 02:10:18,320
Speaker 1: an how we come back. Let's wait till we come back.

2631
02:10:18,760 --> 02:10:20,560
Speaker 1: I think this is a pretty solid We're gonna be

2632
02:10:20,560 --> 02:10:22,240
Speaker 1: back to wrap this show up. We're going to the

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02:10:22,280 --> 02:10:24,400
Speaker 1: top of the hours two forty five now, so one

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02:10:24,400 --> 02:10:27,240
Speaker 1: of those someone, yes, we're gonna go in the overtime.

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Speaker 1: One Bill's Live presented by Kalid to Health from One

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02:10:29,400 --> 02:10:48,120
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2640
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Speaker 1: theater pervider of the Buffalo Bills. What we learned? We

2641
02:11:03,040 --> 02:11:05,880
Speaker 1: had Thurman Thomas on the program and the Patriots went

2642
02:11:05,960 --> 02:11:09,800
Speaker 1: over the Chiefs, and everybody had something to say about

2643
02:11:09,840 --> 02:11:12,960
Speaker 1: the overtime rules. And here's what Thurman Thomas, hall of

2644
02:11:12,960 --> 02:11:15,600
Speaker 1: famer running back for the Buffalo Bills, had to say.

2645
02:11:17,240 --> 02:11:20,440
Speaker 1: If you watch both games yesterday, I mean there were

2646
02:11:20,440 --> 02:11:24,680
Speaker 1: controversies in both games yesterday, and now everybody's talking about, oh,

2647
02:11:24,720 --> 02:11:29,240
Speaker 1: we need to change the overtime rules. I think that's

2648
02:11:29,240 --> 02:11:32,400
Speaker 1: a given, and I think that I think I think

2649
02:11:32,400 --> 02:11:34,840
Speaker 1: they do need to change that rule because if you

2650
02:11:34,920 --> 02:11:37,040
Speaker 1: look at yes New England took the ball and went

2651
02:11:37,080 --> 02:11:39,920
Speaker 1: down the field and scored. But to have Kansas City

2652
02:11:40,080 --> 02:11:43,480
Speaker 1: and probably the MVP of the league with Patrick Mahomes,

2653
02:11:43,840 --> 02:11:48,160
Speaker 1: not have an opportunity to go back out and try

2654
02:11:48,160 --> 02:11:52,920
Speaker 1: to score a touchdown, that's what Thurman Thomas had to

2655
02:11:52,960 --> 02:11:55,840
Speaker 1: say about the overtime rules in Kansas City. A lot

2656
02:11:55,880 --> 02:11:58,000
Speaker 1: of people are bitter about it, and I told you Pet,

2657
02:11:58,160 --> 02:12:00,280
Speaker 1: I just think it's they're just mad they didn't see

2658
02:12:00,280 --> 02:12:02,120
Speaker 1: more of that football game. It was a great game,

2659
02:12:02,200 --> 02:12:04,520
Speaker 1: and that's okay. I mean, you know, if it has

2660
02:12:04,520 --> 02:12:07,000
Speaker 1: nothing to do with the Patriots winning. And someone tweeted

2661
02:12:07,040 --> 02:12:10,240
Speaker 1: doing they said the Rams aren't complaining and they lost

2662
02:12:10,280 --> 02:12:11,840
Speaker 1: the coin toss on. I mean, I guess if you're

2663
02:12:11,840 --> 02:12:13,640
Speaker 1: on that side of it. Sure, yeah, they picked off

2664
02:12:13,640 --> 02:12:16,120
Speaker 1: a pass. They made a defensive play, right, I get

2665
02:12:16,160 --> 02:12:19,280
Speaker 1: it right. Lorenz Alexander was also in on the controversy

2666
02:12:19,280 --> 02:12:23,120
Speaker 1: over the Patriots over time. When here's what Lorenzo Alexander,

2667
02:12:23,600 --> 02:12:26,800
Speaker 1: newly resigned Buffalo Bill's linebacker, had to say about yesterday's

2668
02:12:26,880 --> 02:12:31,480
Speaker 1: Chiefs game. Teams don't score every position they have. I

2669
02:12:31,520 --> 02:12:33,600
Speaker 1: mean the chief didn't score every possession of Patriots and

2670
02:12:33,640 --> 02:12:37,440
Speaker 1: score every position they had. So at some point your

2671
02:12:37,520 --> 02:12:39,839
Speaker 1: defense somebody has to rise up and make a play.

2672
02:12:39,960 --> 02:12:42,520
Speaker 1: But I'm pretty sure at some point doing that, doing

2673
02:12:42,560 --> 02:12:45,560
Speaker 1: that thirteen play drive, the Chiefs had an opportunity to

2674
02:12:45,640 --> 02:12:48,000
Speaker 1: maybe create a third and long get off the field.

2675
02:12:48,800 --> 02:12:50,480
Speaker 1: I heard it was an off size. It was a

2676
02:12:50,520 --> 02:12:53,960
Speaker 1: crucial off side penalty. So all those things go into

2677
02:12:54,000 --> 02:12:56,480
Speaker 1: it as far as whether or not Tom was going

2678
02:12:56,520 --> 02:12:58,040
Speaker 1: to be able to go down the score. It's hard

2679
02:12:58,080 --> 02:13:01,400
Speaker 1: for a offensive drive. What was that seventy five yard drive?

2680
02:13:01,520 --> 02:13:03,880
Speaker 1: Thirteen plays? That's hard for our offense to do. Obviously

2681
02:13:03,920 --> 02:13:06,920
Speaker 1: it's Tom Brady, But like I said, they Kenna City

2682
02:13:06,920 --> 02:13:10,280
Speaker 1: had their opportunities and didn't make the play Lorizzo Alexander

2683
02:13:10,280 --> 02:13:12,760
Speaker 1: talking about it, yesterday's overtime win by the Patriots going

2684
02:13:12,800 --> 02:13:17,760
Speaker 1: back to their ninth ninth credit right there, Super Bowl

2685
02:13:18,080 --> 02:13:20,800
Speaker 1: and uh and it's yeah, it's hard for it's hard

2686
02:13:20,800 --> 02:13:23,520
Speaker 1: for people around the National National Football League to get

2687
02:13:23,520 --> 02:13:25,920
Speaker 1: off on that. But it's hard to live with. But

2688
02:13:26,000 --> 02:13:28,200
Speaker 1: there they are again, and you gotta tip your hat

2689
02:13:28,200 --> 02:13:30,280
Speaker 1: to him. I think Lorenzo was a little offended when

2690
02:13:30,320 --> 02:13:32,240
Speaker 1: I said I was bombed that the other team didn't

2691
02:13:32,240 --> 02:13:34,200
Speaker 1: get to go, because he's said, well, you don't have

2692
02:13:34,320 --> 02:13:37,600
Speaker 1: you don't trust the defense. That's right, That's exactly right.

2693
02:13:37,760 --> 02:13:40,200
Speaker 1: You know, you know, you make a good point. I

2694
02:13:40,200 --> 02:13:43,000
Speaker 1: you understand why you're offended. Andrew Peter's the hero of

2695
02:13:43,040 --> 02:13:45,560
Speaker 1: the day showing up and being here for the entire

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02:13:46,320 --> 02:13:49,480
Speaker 1: tire span of the One Bills Live. Also production assistant

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Speaker 1: George Bloss, Jeff Colton, Act, Thomas Hollander, Kelly Rude, JJ Turto,

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02:13:53,800 --> 02:13:56,800
Speaker 1: Kevin Card, James Robo, Jay, Harris Murph is gonna be

2699
02:13:56,880 --> 02:13:59,520
Speaker 1: with us from the Senior Bowl tomorrow, Chris Brown will

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02:13:59,560 --> 02:14:03,400
Speaker 1: be in with me tomorrow. And Pete, thanks so much, man,

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02:14:03,440 --> 02:14:06,400
Speaker 1: awesome job today. Really appreciate you. My pleasure. I didn't

2702
02:14:06,400 --> 02:14:08,000
Speaker 1: know you give credit to everyone in the back. I

2703
02:14:08,000 --> 02:14:10,080
Speaker 1: should do I need to do a better job. You

2704
02:14:10,120 --> 02:14:12,160
Speaker 1: are the best man. Thanks so much for being here.

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Speaker 1: You've been listening to One Bill's Live presented by Kalida

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Speaker 1: Health from One Bill's Drive. This is Buffalo Bill's Radio.

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Speaker 1: We'll talk to you tomorrow. Everybody. Thanks,