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Every round, 27 00:01:50,120 --> 00:01:53,880 Speaker 2: two guys enter the Crossfire to debate a particular question 28 00:01:54,000 --> 00:01:57,960 Speaker 2: for just sixty seconds. The other two guys not competing 29 00:01:57,960 --> 00:02:01,560 Speaker 2: in that debate, they will act as the judges. JD. 30 00:02:02,440 --> 00:02:05,240 Speaker 2: You will be the deciding vote in the event. 31 00:02:05,040 --> 00:02:06,880 Speaker 1: Of a time, So much power. 32 00:02:07,200 --> 00:02:12,440 Speaker 2: That's right. Just like hoops, winner stays and winner goes 33 00:02:12,480 --> 00:02:15,800 Speaker 2: first in the next debate, So we'll always be rotating 34 00:02:15,840 --> 00:02:19,600 Speaker 2: in New Guys here each round. Wow, we got ten 35 00:02:19,720 --> 00:02:25,040 Speaker 2: questions today? The last man standing, the last debate winner 36 00:02:25,080 --> 00:02:29,079 Speaker 2: of this particular podcast will be crowned the Crossfire King 37 00:02:29,720 --> 00:02:32,800 Speaker 2: and will rep the championship belt for at least a week. 38 00:02:33,040 --> 00:02:35,919 Speaker 2: Got so whenever we do our next episode of Crossfire, 39 00:02:35,960 --> 00:02:38,600 Speaker 2: if we do another episode of cross we'll find out 40 00:02:38,639 --> 00:02:41,519 Speaker 2: so so pretty straightforward, right, should be some fun here 41 00:02:42,080 --> 00:02:46,360 Speaker 2: as long as everyone has stretched warmed up those vocal cords. 42 00:02:46,360 --> 00:02:50,200 Speaker 2: A little bit. Let's get after it. Round one task 43 00:02:50,320 --> 00:02:55,560 Speaker 2: versus Trey guys. It's a good one. Best team in 44 00:02:55,600 --> 00:02:58,720 Speaker 2: the league, Bucks or Lakers, here we go. 45 00:02:59,520 --> 00:03:02,960 Speaker 3: Give me that Lakers. This team is twenty two and 46 00:03:03,040 --> 00:03:05,880 Speaker 3: three right now out of the gate. How much better 47 00:03:05,919 --> 00:03:09,080 Speaker 3: are they gonna get? Usually Lebron teams when he signs 48 00:03:09,160 --> 00:03:11,720 Speaker 3: up with a new guy, they start off slow. They're 49 00:03:11,760 --> 00:03:15,040 Speaker 3: this good now. They have a top defense already, a 50 00:03:15,120 --> 00:03:18,960 Speaker 3: Defensive Player of the Year, and Anthony Davis, best player 51 00:03:19,000 --> 00:03:21,880 Speaker 3: in the game, got two months off. He is the 52 00:03:21,919 --> 00:03:27,160 Speaker 3: best player in the game. Bullet Lebron is back. This 53 00:03:27,200 --> 00:03:30,160 Speaker 3: is a story. Franchise twenty two and three is tied 54 00:03:30,240 --> 00:03:34,960 Speaker 3: for the best franchise start in their history. That says 55 00:03:35,360 --> 00:03:35,800 Speaker 3: a lot. 56 00:03:36,160 --> 00:03:38,240 Speaker 4: That says a lot. But the best player in the 57 00:03:38,280 --> 00:03:40,640 Speaker 4: game plays for the Milwaukee Bucks. You're talking about the 58 00:03:40,680 --> 00:03:44,440 Speaker 4: ragning MVP Jannis ant To Compo, the future MVP Jannis 59 00:03:44,440 --> 00:03:48,080 Speaker 4: Anteta Compo. The Bucks are better on offense than the Lakers. 60 00:03:48,080 --> 00:03:50,120 Speaker 4: They're better on defense than the Lakers. They got a 61 00:03:50,200 --> 00:03:52,680 Speaker 4: better net rating than the Lakers. They got a better 62 00:03:52,760 --> 00:03:56,160 Speaker 4: margin of victory than the Lakers. Maybe they're not gonna 63 00:03:56,200 --> 00:03:57,720 Speaker 4: be as good in the playoffs, But for right now, 64 00:03:58,520 --> 00:03:59,320 Speaker 4: I'm taking. 65 00:03:59,120 --> 00:04:02,560 Speaker 3: The Bucks, mister number right there. 66 00:04:02,840 --> 00:04:06,200 Speaker 2: So, as I explained Lee, because you and I were 67 00:04:06,240 --> 00:04:09,560 Speaker 2: sitting this one out, you get to decide who advances 68 00:04:09,600 --> 00:04:12,240 Speaker 2: to the next round. And if we're split, JD is 69 00:04:12,280 --> 00:04:12,960 Speaker 2: the type break. 70 00:04:13,040 --> 00:04:14,960 Speaker 5: So do we decide on who had the better argument 71 00:04:15,040 --> 00:04:16,719 Speaker 5: or whose argument we agree with you? 72 00:04:17,000 --> 00:04:19,599 Speaker 2: That's a great, great question. I think it's up to 73 00:04:19,680 --> 00:04:20,520 Speaker 2: you where you go. 74 00:04:20,640 --> 00:04:24,440 Speaker 5: Okay, I'm going to lead towards Tassie. I do agree 75 00:04:24,440 --> 00:04:28,000 Speaker 5: that I think the Lakers slightly better than the Box 76 00:04:28,120 --> 00:04:28,960 Speaker 5: right right now. 77 00:04:29,640 --> 00:04:32,760 Speaker 2: In the future, I think both, I think both. 78 00:04:32,839 --> 00:04:34,920 Speaker 5: I think right now, from what I've seen, this Lakers 79 00:04:34,920 --> 00:04:39,360 Speaker 5: team has gelled instantly from the start. Giannis has been fantastic. 80 00:04:39,440 --> 00:04:42,240 Speaker 5: The Bucks have been fantastic. I just give it a 81 00:04:42,360 --> 00:04:44,600 Speaker 5: fifty vote to test. 82 00:04:45,240 --> 00:04:46,920 Speaker 2: Well, this is great. We're gonna be going to JD 83 00:04:47,040 --> 00:04:51,000 Speaker 2: early because I'm actually giving my vote to Trey, probably 84 00:04:51,080 --> 00:04:54,560 Speaker 2: both for his execution there stepping into the ring and 85 00:04:54,640 --> 00:04:57,960 Speaker 2: squaring up with Task, but also I do believe, I 86 00:04:58,040 --> 00:04:59,880 Speaker 2: guess that the Bucks are the better team right now. 87 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:01,560 Speaker 2: We're gonna find out soon. I mean, these two teams 88 00:05:01,560 --> 00:05:06,000 Speaker 2: play each other next week. Percent of a voter fifty 89 00:05:06,120 --> 00:05:10,040 Speaker 2: per JD. You get to ultimately decide so soon. 90 00:05:10,480 --> 00:05:13,640 Speaker 1: God, well, I'm gonna go with Trey best player in 91 00:05:13,720 --> 00:05:14,400 Speaker 1: the league, so. 92 00:05:15,920 --> 00:05:17,080 Speaker 5: Yeah, he wins it. 93 00:05:19,720 --> 00:05:21,200 Speaker 3: And the best team, I mean, the Bucks are the 94 00:05:21,240 --> 00:05:25,640 Speaker 3: better team, Let's be honest. Point differential, the point differential 95 00:05:25,680 --> 00:05:28,400 Speaker 3: that Tray brought up. That's important, that margin between them 96 00:05:28,400 --> 00:05:31,280 Speaker 3: and their opponents, which includes losses. It's the fourth best 97 00:05:31,400 --> 00:05:33,480 Speaker 3: ever in NBA history right now if it were to 98 00:05:33,520 --> 00:05:36,680 Speaker 3: stay for the rest of the season, seventy one lou 99 00:05:36,760 --> 00:05:39,960 Speaker 3: Al Cinder Bucks, the fifteen to sixteen Warriors, the seven 100 00:05:39,960 --> 00:05:44,360 Speaker 3: to eight Garnet Celtics, then the Bucks, then Great Bulls teams, 101 00:05:44,560 --> 00:05:46,960 Speaker 3: Lakers teams, Warriors teams after that, and then Lakers are 102 00:05:47,000 --> 00:05:47,400 Speaker 3: way down. 103 00:05:47,520 --> 00:05:49,680 Speaker 2: A big part of this is because, you know, we 104 00:05:49,839 --> 00:05:52,279 Speaker 2: maybe didn't expect the Lakers to start so strong. 105 00:05:52,360 --> 00:05:54,560 Speaker 3: Thanks and Divine for that tweet, by the way, but yeah, 106 00:05:54,640 --> 00:05:55,599 Speaker 3: we expectations. 107 00:05:55,600 --> 00:05:58,160 Speaker 2: I've been Yeah, whereas the Bucks a sixty win team, 108 00:05:58,240 --> 00:06:01,560 Speaker 2: obviously a playoff team based the same squad without Brogden, 109 00:06:02,800 --> 00:06:04,480 Speaker 2: and it's like, okay, ho home, they just do this. 110 00:06:04,600 --> 00:06:05,920 Speaker 2: I think that's a big part of it. Can't wait 111 00:06:05,960 --> 00:06:06,520 Speaker 2: for them to play. 112 00:06:06,680 --> 00:06:12,680 Speaker 3: All right, it's time for round number two. The Philadelphia 113 00:06:12,720 --> 00:06:17,840 Speaker 3: seventy six Ers can only keep one player, Trey Lee. 114 00:06:18,440 --> 00:06:21,280 Speaker 3: Is it Ben Simmons or Joel Embiid. Here we go. 115 00:06:22,200 --> 00:06:23,840 Speaker 4: You guys know I love a big guy. You know 116 00:06:23,920 --> 00:06:26,400 Speaker 4: I love that rim defense. You gotta play on both ends. 117 00:06:26,960 --> 00:06:29,000 Speaker 4: That's why you gotta trade Joel Embiid. 118 00:06:28,760 --> 00:06:31,640 Speaker 6: Keep Ben Simmons. Fourteen, seven and eight. 119 00:06:31,720 --> 00:06:33,920 Speaker 4: The numbers don't sound crazy, but he's playing both ways, 120 00:06:33,960 --> 00:06:35,360 Speaker 4: and we saw what he can do. And Embiid has 121 00:06:35,360 --> 00:06:37,520 Speaker 4: gone a career high thirty four points. Not to mention 122 00:06:37,600 --> 00:06:40,200 Speaker 4: you throw back for the twenty seventeen eighteen season, Embiid 123 00:06:40,600 --> 00:06:43,840 Speaker 4: on the bench with an injury, a sixteen game win 124 00:06:44,000 --> 00:06:46,760 Speaker 4: streak for the Simmons led Sixers. 125 00:06:46,839 --> 00:06:50,280 Speaker 6: This is twenty nineteen. We need fast guys, not big guys, Lee. 126 00:06:51,000 --> 00:06:54,039 Speaker 5: So I have to go against my countryman. Yeah, Simmons. 127 00:06:54,279 --> 00:06:57,040 Speaker 5: The thing is about Joel Embiid. Clearly he struggled to 128 00:06:57,040 --> 00:06:59,320 Speaker 5: stop this season, but he said the other day he's 129 00:06:59,320 --> 00:07:01,800 Speaker 5: gotta get back to his goofy self and he's already 130 00:07:01,839 --> 00:07:04,040 Speaker 5: turned the corner. He was asked about the criticism he 131 00:07:04,120 --> 00:07:06,000 Speaker 5: received from Shaq and Charles bark. He said, you know what, 132 00:07:06,040 --> 00:07:08,039 Speaker 5: They're right. I'm just gonna go out there and be myself. 133 00:07:08,400 --> 00:07:10,720 Speaker 5: You always want to be building around a big man. 134 00:07:11,000 --> 00:07:14,200 Speaker 5: Ben Simmons three seasons into his career technically four, but 135 00:07:14,360 --> 00:07:16,800 Speaker 5: really three. That shot just hasn't developed. I don't think 136 00:07:16,840 --> 00:07:19,360 Speaker 5: it's coming Whereas Joel Embiid was putting up in fifty 137 00:07:19,840 --> 00:07:24,760 Speaker 5: from three but shaq, excuse me. Embiid was putting up 138 00:07:24,840 --> 00:07:27,840 Speaker 5: shack like numbers last season and impact on the game. 139 00:07:27,920 --> 00:07:30,360 Speaker 5: I think it's coming back. I think Joel Embiid is 140 00:07:30,400 --> 00:07:32,120 Speaker 5: a guy you want to build around because you want 141 00:07:32,120 --> 00:07:34,960 Speaker 5: to get shooters around him. Ben Simmons ain't one of those. 142 00:07:35,160 --> 00:07:38,000 Speaker 2: Oh wow, was that tough for you to go against 143 00:07:38,000 --> 00:07:41,640 Speaker 2: your ear there? Yeah, well, I'm giving you the vote. 144 00:07:41,960 --> 00:07:43,560 Speaker 2: I think you're I think you're right. I think it 145 00:07:43,680 --> 00:07:45,400 Speaker 2: is Embiid. If you had to pick between one of 146 00:07:45,480 --> 00:07:47,960 Speaker 2: the two in this hypothetical and you had to move one, 147 00:07:48,560 --> 00:07:50,760 Speaker 2: I am not moving Joel Embiid. And I love Simmons, 148 00:07:50,840 --> 00:07:52,080 Speaker 2: I like what he can bring to a big team, 149 00:07:52,160 --> 00:07:53,400 Speaker 2: but I'm keeping Embiid. 150 00:07:54,160 --> 00:07:56,240 Speaker 3: This is nuts that it's even a discussion right now, 151 00:07:56,240 --> 00:07:58,440 Speaker 3: because a couple of years ago, when Joel Embiid was flying. 152 00:07:58,440 --> 00:08:00,640 Speaker 3: Even last year when Joel Ebid was line, we would 153 00:08:00,640 --> 00:08:02,240 Speaker 3: just say Joel Ebid and the heartbeat. But I think 154 00:08:02,280 --> 00:08:04,760 Speaker 3: it's Ben Simmons that you'd keep this whole argument of 155 00:08:04,880 --> 00:08:08,760 Speaker 3: Joel Embiid needs to start smiling to play better basketball. 156 00:08:08,840 --> 00:08:09,600 Speaker 3: Give me a break. 157 00:08:09,720 --> 00:08:11,000 Speaker 2: Come on, he said it himself. 158 00:08:11,440 --> 00:08:14,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a bunch of hooey. The guy shimmys whenever 159 00:08:14,400 --> 00:08:17,040 Speaker 3: he wants. He doesn't instagram as much. What needs to 160 00:08:17,120 --> 00:08:19,960 Speaker 3: get better are his knees. There's a reason why there's 161 00:08:20,000 --> 00:08:22,840 Speaker 3: those unique provisions in his contract for him to stay 162 00:08:22,920 --> 00:08:25,440 Speaker 3: healthy or else he doesn't get paid. He's the more 163 00:08:25,480 --> 00:08:28,080 Speaker 3: talented guy. We know that. But I I just I 164 00:08:28,160 --> 00:08:30,720 Speaker 3: don't trust that body lumbering up and down the floor 165 00:08:30,800 --> 00:08:33,160 Speaker 3: that I see. So it comes down to JD menow. 166 00:08:33,600 --> 00:08:36,559 Speaker 1: Well, I have to be honest. During that I was 167 00:08:36,640 --> 00:08:39,839 Speaker 1: wondering if this, if the mics were distorting A and 168 00:08:39,920 --> 00:08:42,200 Speaker 1: then B, if we were gonna get a noise complaint, 169 00:08:42,480 --> 00:08:44,280 Speaker 1: and then and then it was over, and I wasn't 170 00:08:44,280 --> 00:08:47,719 Speaker 1: really paying attentions to be honest, So I'm gonna have 171 00:08:47,920 --> 00:08:52,280 Speaker 1: to go. I'm gonna go with Trey simply because I 172 00:08:52,480 --> 00:08:55,240 Speaker 1: know that Leeve went against his countryman. So that's that's 173 00:08:55,640 --> 00:08:58,559 Speaker 1: that's my reasoning, man, So I apologize. I will pay 174 00:08:58,559 --> 00:08:59,520 Speaker 1: attention next to all right. 175 00:08:59,559 --> 00:09:02,280 Speaker 3: Sorry, So we got Trey and Skeets battling and this 176 00:09:02,400 --> 00:09:04,040 Speaker 3: one leave what is the next round? 177 00:09:04,360 --> 00:09:07,959 Speaker 5: This one is a tough one because we have Christmas 178 00:09:08,040 --> 00:09:10,959 Speaker 5: coming up in about two weeks time and we've just 179 00:09:11,080 --> 00:09:15,199 Speaker 5: had Thanksgiving. So guys, what is the beta holiday? Thanksgiving 180 00:09:15,640 --> 00:09:16,880 Speaker 5: or Christmas? Try? 181 00:09:17,800 --> 00:09:20,320 Speaker 4: Well, Thanksgiving is great and it lasts a long time, 182 00:09:20,559 --> 00:09:21,760 Speaker 4: but Christmas lasts for. 183 00:09:22,120 --> 00:09:22,840 Speaker 6: About a month. 184 00:09:23,120 --> 00:09:25,400 Speaker 4: You're celebrating it, no doubt about it, for a week, 185 00:09:25,920 --> 00:09:29,880 Speaker 4: and not to mention on Thanksgiving. No basketball on Christmas? 186 00:09:30,120 --> 00:09:32,680 Speaker 4: All basketball? Remember who's paying the bills years? 187 00:09:32,840 --> 00:09:34,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, but I want to watch the Lions play, man. 188 00:09:35,160 --> 00:09:36,640 Speaker 6: You're a big Lions man, Tony. 189 00:09:36,920 --> 00:09:39,320 Speaker 2: It's a great point about the length of the holiday, 190 00:09:39,400 --> 00:09:42,400 Speaker 2: but it actually sort of hurts Christmas as well. Christmas 191 00:09:42,640 --> 00:09:45,320 Speaker 2: is stressful for a lot of people. That's the truth. 192 00:09:45,480 --> 00:09:49,360 Speaker 2: Thanksgiving it's easy. You're showing up to somebody down cook, 193 00:09:49,520 --> 00:09:52,480 Speaker 2: You're going exactly, I don't got to do anything except, 194 00:09:52,520 --> 00:09:54,240 Speaker 2: you know, play with the kids and hang out. Will 195 00:09:54,280 --> 00:09:57,600 Speaker 2: be a cool uncle. That's all. I gotta do. Where's Christmas? Man, 196 00:09:57,840 --> 00:10:00,839 Speaker 2: there's pressure like with the gift by of course, and 197 00:10:00,960 --> 00:10:05,040 Speaker 2: the jumping around from family to family. And it's colder, 198 00:10:05,200 --> 00:10:07,400 Speaker 2: of course as we get into late December than it 199 00:10:07,520 --> 00:10:11,120 Speaker 2: is in October or November, depending when you celebrate Thanksgiving. 200 00:10:11,200 --> 00:10:13,720 Speaker 2: So that's an issue with flights being delayed and stuff. 201 00:10:13,960 --> 00:10:16,640 Speaker 2: I think just Thanksgiving is the easier holiday, and I 202 00:10:16,679 --> 00:10:17,280 Speaker 2: want to relax. 203 00:10:17,600 --> 00:10:18,640 Speaker 6: It is a chill holiday. 204 00:10:18,720 --> 00:10:20,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, so I'm going with Thanksgiving. 205 00:10:21,000 --> 00:10:23,679 Speaker 5: Tough one. I don't even know what Thanksgiving is, so 206 00:10:26,040 --> 00:10:29,840 Speaker 5: the actual holiday, yeah, yeah, it a two day holiday 207 00:10:29,920 --> 00:10:30,760 Speaker 5: or a one day holiday. 208 00:10:30,840 --> 00:10:33,040 Speaker 2: No one really, It's a four day holiday in the state. 209 00:10:34,679 --> 00:10:35,520 Speaker 3: So what's your answer. 210 00:10:35,960 --> 00:10:36,840 Speaker 5: I'll go Christmas. 211 00:10:40,240 --> 00:10:43,360 Speaker 2: So you're really not taking into consideration the actual argument. 212 00:10:43,520 --> 00:10:46,600 Speaker 5: Well, that's going with the thing that's with me with Christmas. 213 00:10:47,280 --> 00:10:49,559 Speaker 5: I'm biased because I have two boys, so I like 214 00:10:49,640 --> 00:10:53,640 Speaker 5: Christmas Thanksgiving instead of like do we give presents or not? 215 00:10:54,080 --> 00:10:55,280 Speaker 2: No, not at all. 216 00:10:55,480 --> 00:10:58,800 Speaker 5: I see some exchanging of gifts Thanksgiving. 217 00:10:59,240 --> 00:11:00,840 Speaker 6: I've been held Thanksgiving gift. 218 00:11:01,240 --> 00:11:03,080 Speaker 5: I see people sort of say, hey, you want this, yeah, 219 00:11:03,200 --> 00:11:05,280 Speaker 5: but I don't wrap it, so I don't know. I'm 220 00:11:05,280 --> 00:11:07,360 Speaker 5: still figuring it out. Six years in the US. 221 00:11:08,360 --> 00:11:17,760 Speaker 3: Are you going Thanksgiving? I'm going, Chris, I'm gonna strictly 222 00:11:17,840 --> 00:11:22,880 Speaker 3: for the length I'll go Thanksgiving. I guess another tie. 223 00:11:23,800 --> 00:11:24,839 Speaker 5: You're paying attention this time. 224 00:11:25,080 --> 00:11:27,080 Speaker 1: No, I definitely I'm all in on this one. 225 00:11:28,520 --> 00:11:30,280 Speaker 2: Basketball. Yeah, Okay, I'm listening. 226 00:11:30,400 --> 00:11:33,240 Speaker 1: I'm trying to keep it, you know, keep my own 227 00:11:33,320 --> 00:11:37,400 Speaker 1: personal feelings, because I am definitely a Thanksgiving guy. But 228 00:11:37,520 --> 00:11:40,360 Speaker 1: I think that Skeets had the better argument. It's just 229 00:11:40,480 --> 00:11:45,040 Speaker 1: a stress free your your point about him not cooking 230 00:11:45,320 --> 00:11:48,400 Speaker 1: is well taken. But it's a great holiday. 231 00:11:48,440 --> 00:11:50,720 Speaker 5: I mean, it's it's awesome. 232 00:11:50,760 --> 00:11:53,520 Speaker 1: All right. Maybe I'm allowing myself, so yeah, I'm going 233 00:11:53,559 --> 00:11:54,960 Speaker 1: thanks Oh yeah, all. 234 00:11:54,960 --> 00:11:58,480 Speaker 2: Right, I've throwned the only champion we've ever known in 235 00:11:58,679 --> 00:12:01,679 Speaker 2: crossfire history, Trey Kirby. All Right, I'm moving on. 236 00:12:02,320 --> 00:12:06,840 Speaker 4: That means i'm reading round number four, Skeets versus Tasks. 237 00:12:08,280 --> 00:12:11,520 Speaker 4: Who has been the more disappointing team this season? The 238 00:12:11,640 --> 00:12:13,000 Speaker 4: Jazz or the Nuggets? 239 00:12:13,840 --> 00:12:17,240 Speaker 2: Oh my goodness, that's difficult. I guess I gotta go 240 00:12:17,320 --> 00:12:20,040 Speaker 2: with the Jazz. They're fourteen and eleven, so they have 241 00:12:20,080 --> 00:12:22,320 Speaker 2: the worst record than the Nuggets. They got the same 242 00:12:22,320 --> 00:12:24,719 Speaker 2: amount of wins but Jazz have played more games and 243 00:12:25,120 --> 00:12:28,400 Speaker 2: fought more losses. They're just what's disappointing what the Jazz 244 00:12:28,520 --> 00:12:31,280 Speaker 2: is their defense. I mean, the offense we knew might 245 00:12:31,320 --> 00:12:33,800 Speaker 2: struggle still take some time to gel with Conlee and 246 00:12:33,840 --> 00:12:36,800 Speaker 2: Bogdanovich and all that. But they're the eleventh ranc defense 247 00:12:36,840 --> 00:12:39,320 Speaker 2: that shouldn't be happening. It really really shouldn't. They turned 248 00:12:39,320 --> 00:12:41,400 Speaker 2: the ball over way too much. Conley hasn't been able 249 00:12:41,400 --> 00:12:42,720 Speaker 2: to get it going on the other end of the floor. 250 00:12:43,320 --> 00:12:46,079 Speaker 2: Both teams have been sort of depressing at times, but 251 00:12:46,160 --> 00:12:48,680 Speaker 2: I'll go Jazz as the worst, more disappointing team. 252 00:12:49,120 --> 00:12:53,479 Speaker 3: I'm looking at Nikola Jokic's face right now. I'm disappointed. 253 00:12:53,760 --> 00:12:57,959 Speaker 3: I'm disappointed in every single photo headshot he's ever taken. 254 00:12:58,080 --> 00:13:01,120 Speaker 3: I'm disappointed because he's not into the photo, like he's 255 00:13:01,160 --> 00:13:04,600 Speaker 3: not into playing basketball. This season. It's nuts. This team 256 00:13:04,640 --> 00:13:06,760 Speaker 3: should be on top of the Western Conference with those 257 00:13:06,840 --> 00:13:10,080 Speaker 3: Lakers if you were to play decent basketball, because they're 258 00:13:10,080 --> 00:13:13,199 Speaker 3: an incredible team. Defensively, he went from an MVP candidate 259 00:13:13,480 --> 00:13:18,200 Speaker 3: to sixteen points a game on twenty three percent from 260 00:13:18,240 --> 00:13:18,960 Speaker 3: three point land. 261 00:13:19,280 --> 00:13:20,520 Speaker 2: He's not shooting after the time. 262 00:13:20,720 --> 00:13:24,000 Speaker 3: It's it's sad, But you say that the defense is good. 263 00:13:24,240 --> 00:13:26,760 Speaker 2: That's the wild part with the Nuggets. There obviously is 264 00:13:26,880 --> 00:13:28,760 Speaker 2: some some effort on that end of the floor. They 265 00:13:28,800 --> 00:13:30,080 Speaker 2: just can't hit a shot and to save their life. 266 00:13:30,080 --> 00:13:32,839 Speaker 2: And you'll get you right, it looks disinterested for quarters 267 00:13:32,880 --> 00:13:34,520 Speaker 2: out of time offensively, but listen. 268 00:13:34,400 --> 00:13:37,120 Speaker 3: The Jazz will find a way. They're fourteen to eleven. Well, 269 00:13:37,640 --> 00:13:40,160 Speaker 3: it's the Nuggets are the team that have been there 270 00:13:40,200 --> 00:13:43,840 Speaker 3: with fifty two wins last year. They have more than 271 00:13:43,880 --> 00:13:47,000 Speaker 3: that at fifty seven. What am I saying at seven? 272 00:13:47,080 --> 00:13:50,079 Speaker 2: They're got to be hurting his case here? Yeahs second 273 00:13:50,360 --> 00:13:51,120 Speaker 2: incorrect facts. 274 00:13:53,040 --> 00:13:55,000 Speaker 3: The fifty four is right in between. That's what. 275 00:13:56,000 --> 00:13:58,959 Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm gonna give a few points to the Nuggets 276 00:13:59,000 --> 00:14:01,439 Speaker 4: for actually being good on defense this year. Their offense 277 00:14:01,640 --> 00:14:04,640 Speaker 4: and their yell Kitch and his had shots certainly disappointing, 278 00:14:04,679 --> 00:14:07,679 Speaker 4: But I think the Jazz are more disappointing thus far. 279 00:14:08,320 --> 00:14:10,120 Speaker 5: I'm going to agree on this one. It is the 280 00:14:10,240 --> 00:14:13,880 Speaker 5: Jazz because the Nuggets are still six games over five hundred. 281 00:14:13,920 --> 00:14:16,319 Speaker 5: The Jazz are only three games over five hundred. But 282 00:14:16,480 --> 00:14:19,560 Speaker 5: Utah had a good, strong offseason. I think adding Conley, 283 00:14:19,920 --> 00:14:22,920 Speaker 5: adding Bogdanovic, I would have figured that that would have 284 00:14:23,000 --> 00:14:25,320 Speaker 5: really improved their offense, but it hasn't, and their defense 285 00:14:25,360 --> 00:14:27,640 Speaker 5: has also slipped. So it's very, very weird to see 286 00:14:27,760 --> 00:14:31,280 Speaker 5: Utah in this position. Maybe they'll get it together. We 287 00:14:31,440 --> 00:14:33,720 Speaker 5: know that they tend to start off slowly, but right 288 00:14:33,800 --> 00:14:37,280 Speaker 5: now unconvincing for me for a team that could have 289 00:14:37,360 --> 00:14:39,240 Speaker 5: been on the periphery of really challenging for the top 290 00:14:39,320 --> 00:14:39,960 Speaker 5: spot in the West. 291 00:14:40,040 --> 00:14:43,600 Speaker 2: So I'm advancing with the w there. Yo Kich. He 292 00:14:43,720 --> 00:14:45,640 Speaker 2: sort of reminds me right now. Do you remember the 293 00:14:45,880 --> 00:14:50,320 Speaker 2: og snuffle Upagus from Sesame Street? Sure you know who 294 00:14:50,360 --> 00:14:53,120 Speaker 2: I'm talking about, Big birds? What do you mean Og? 295 00:14:53,480 --> 00:14:53,680 Speaker 3: Did he? 296 00:14:53,920 --> 00:14:56,520 Speaker 2: Well, he did change this way. I say that he 297 00:14:56,720 --> 00:15:01,600 Speaker 2: changed his attitude when I was kid, snuffle up Acus, 298 00:15:02,120 --> 00:15:05,720 Speaker 2: from what I can remember, it was sort of depressed. 299 00:15:06,400 --> 00:15:09,960 Speaker 2: He sad. It's sort of like your type of vibe 300 00:15:10,040 --> 00:15:13,120 Speaker 2: to him, maybe not as bad. I think they changed that, JD. 301 00:15:13,680 --> 00:15:15,400 Speaker 2: They changed that for the kids. I think he got 302 00:15:15,920 --> 00:15:17,440 Speaker 2: a little more positive change. 303 00:15:17,280 --> 00:15:18,080 Speaker 6: Your face be happy? 304 00:15:18,240 --> 00:15:21,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, but uh that Yo kids just reminds me of 305 00:15:21,040 --> 00:15:22,880 Speaker 2: snuffle up because I believe they actually did change his 306 00:15:22,920 --> 00:15:25,360 Speaker 2: appearance too. He had sort of your eyes at some 307 00:15:25,480 --> 00:15:26,880 Speaker 2: point and then they made him a little brighter. 308 00:15:27,360 --> 00:15:31,240 Speaker 1: When you watched When I watched this, how old I am? 309 00:15:31,800 --> 00:15:33,520 Speaker 1: Everybody didn't believe. 310 00:15:35,000 --> 00:15:39,080 Speaker 2: So that became that became a storyline. They eventually did 311 00:15:39,920 --> 00:15:42,800 Speaker 2: introduce him to all the other characters, but there was 312 00:15:42,840 --> 00:15:45,000 Speaker 2: a time where it was, uh, you know, this is 313 00:15:45,040 --> 00:15:49,400 Speaker 2: for the Canadians out there. It was like, uh, Today's 314 00:15:49,400 --> 00:15:52,200 Speaker 2: special where what was the name. 315 00:15:52,120 --> 00:15:53,320 Speaker 5: Of the well? 316 00:15:53,480 --> 00:15:54,800 Speaker 3: No, the name of Sam. 317 00:15:56,080 --> 00:15:58,920 Speaker 2: The name of the character that they po Poker Roo, 318 00:15:59,320 --> 00:16:03,080 Speaker 2: Well that's Poke. Oh wait, oh wait, now I'm mixing 319 00:16:03,160 --> 00:16:03,440 Speaker 2: them up? 320 00:16:03,600 --> 00:16:04,160 Speaker 3: Gets smart? 321 00:16:04,560 --> 00:16:07,880 Speaker 2: No, No, anyway, back in sesame Street. Stuffle up gis Is, 322 00:16:07,920 --> 00:16:09,520 Speaker 2: You'll getch You'll catch you, snuffle up agains and I'm 323 00:16:09,520 --> 00:16:10,400 Speaker 2: moving on, baby. 324 00:16:10,520 --> 00:16:15,840 Speaker 3: Good stuff. Round number five, gentlemen, who gets traded first? 325 00:16:16,720 --> 00:16:20,440 Speaker 3: Kevin Love or Andre Drummond? Here we go. 326 00:16:21,600 --> 00:16:25,000 Speaker 2: I think it's Kevin Love. Let's not overthink this. Kevin 327 00:16:25,080 --> 00:16:27,400 Speaker 2: Love is in the rumors right now. Kevin Love could 328 00:16:27,400 --> 00:16:28,960 Speaker 2: be traded by the time the show goes up. For 329 00:16:29,040 --> 00:16:31,400 Speaker 2: all we know. Uh, he's tired of the calves and 330 00:16:31,600 --> 00:16:32,960 Speaker 2: might be getting to the point where the caves are 331 00:16:33,000 --> 00:16:36,280 Speaker 2: tired of him and really leaning into the rebuild. Yeah, 332 00:16:36,320 --> 00:16:38,280 Speaker 2: he's got a massive contract. I think it can be moved. 333 00:16:38,280 --> 00:16:40,200 Speaker 2: I think people would want a player like Kevin Love. 334 00:16:40,240 --> 00:16:42,120 Speaker 2: I think in a new you know environment, he's still 335 00:16:42,160 --> 00:16:47,000 Speaker 2: going to contribute. Drummonds like, yeah, those there's been rumors 336 00:16:47,080 --> 00:16:49,360 Speaker 2: the last couple of years, but nothing's happened. It's Love. 337 00:16:49,960 --> 00:16:53,040 Speaker 5: I think it's Andre Drummond, younger guy, more upside. He's 338 00:16:53,080 --> 00:16:54,920 Speaker 5: technically a free agent goutting to this season. He has 339 00:16:54,960 --> 00:16:57,480 Speaker 5: a playeruption, so yeah, but he is well, he might 340 00:16:57,520 --> 00:16:59,240 Speaker 5: not tell you. He might do that if he suns 341 00:16:59,280 --> 00:17:01,200 Speaker 5: a new contracts it a new extension, if he goes 342 00:17:01,200 --> 00:17:02,880 Speaker 5: to the right situation, the right team. I think we've 343 00:17:02,880 --> 00:17:05,040 Speaker 5: seen him in Detroit for so long. He needs a 344 00:17:05,080 --> 00:17:07,200 Speaker 5: fresh start. I think with Kevin Love, as good of 345 00:17:07,200 --> 00:17:09,080 Speaker 5: a player as he has been, he's on the decline 346 00:17:09,320 --> 00:17:11,959 Speaker 5: and he's bringing ninety million dollars. 347 00:17:12,080 --> 00:17:14,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know what Drummonds going to bring. Yeah, he's 348 00:17:14,040 --> 00:17:16,160 Speaker 2: bringing four years, one hundred plus million. 349 00:17:16,200 --> 00:17:18,480 Speaker 5: But he's twenty seven. He's twenty seven next season, so 350 00:17:18,560 --> 00:17:21,359 Speaker 5: he's still got time and he's still a dominant player 351 00:17:21,440 --> 00:17:23,080 Speaker 5: on both ends of the floor. I think, if you 352 00:17:23,119 --> 00:17:24,879 Speaker 5: want to play, who's going to make an immediate impact? 353 00:17:24,960 --> 00:17:26,880 Speaker 5: Right now, you go with the big man, Andre Drummond. 354 00:17:26,880 --> 00:17:28,560 Speaker 5: I think with Kevin Love it's a it's a gamble 355 00:17:28,920 --> 00:17:32,160 Speaker 5: that could leave you with two years at least, maybe 356 00:17:32,280 --> 00:17:34,240 Speaker 5: longer of that heavy, heavy contract. 357 00:17:35,119 --> 00:17:37,600 Speaker 2: I don't know. I think I'd rather have Love on 358 00:17:37,760 --> 00:17:41,040 Speaker 2: my team in today's NBA to you know, to adding 359 00:17:41,119 --> 00:17:44,040 Speaker 2: to a playoff caliber team trying go further. Yeah, Rumbon's good. 360 00:17:44,080 --> 00:17:46,400 Speaker 2: I mean, he's seventeen and seventeen and he's a beast 361 00:17:46,520 --> 00:17:47,600 Speaker 2: defensively with the numbers. 362 00:17:47,640 --> 00:17:50,240 Speaker 5: But that's the thing. I think Drummond can just bring 363 00:17:50,359 --> 00:17:52,800 Speaker 5: you something that you know this season you only have 364 00:17:52,880 --> 00:17:55,399 Speaker 5: to gamble on. If this it doesn't work, that's fine. Love. 365 00:17:55,440 --> 00:17:57,800 Speaker 2: You're going to trade assets to get him, And then 366 00:17:57,840 --> 00:17:58,080 Speaker 2: he was. 367 00:17:58,200 --> 00:17:59,920 Speaker 5: It's worth it. It's worth it because he's so young 368 00:18:00,119 --> 00:18:01,920 Speaker 5: still and he's still got so much potential. 369 00:18:02,000 --> 00:18:05,000 Speaker 6: I think who would you rather have is a great question. 370 00:18:05,200 --> 00:18:07,920 Speaker 2: But who gets traded first is the question. 371 00:18:08,080 --> 00:18:11,840 Speaker 4: And Kevin Love is in the news wanting to be traded. 372 00:18:11,880 --> 00:18:13,880 Speaker 4: He said he wants to go to a contender. There 373 00:18:13,960 --> 00:18:18,160 Speaker 4: was the anonymous report about John Beeline last week. There 374 00:18:18,280 --> 00:18:21,320 Speaker 4: was a play against in the game last night where 375 00:18:21,320 --> 00:18:23,000 Speaker 4: there was a wide open shooter in the corner and 376 00:18:23,080 --> 00:18:24,840 Speaker 4: he just stands underneath the hoop and. 377 00:18:24,960 --> 00:18:27,040 Speaker 6: Just says, Hey, take your time out there and feel 378 00:18:27,040 --> 00:18:29,760 Speaker 6: free to knock that one down. PJ. Tucker. Kevin Love 379 00:18:29,920 --> 00:18:31,639 Speaker 6: is ready to be gone, see you, buddy. 380 00:18:32,880 --> 00:18:35,639 Speaker 3: He is definitely ready to be gone. It's time for 381 00:18:35,720 --> 00:18:38,679 Speaker 3: him to move on. I think they do trade him. 382 00:18:38,760 --> 00:18:42,800 Speaker 3: I don't think Andre Drummond moves period from Detroit. It's Detroit, 383 00:18:43,119 --> 00:18:45,440 Speaker 3: and they were very well aware that they may not 384 00:18:45,520 --> 00:18:47,800 Speaker 3: be able to attract anybody in the free agency market. 385 00:18:48,440 --> 00:18:52,359 Speaker 3: I hate washing. The Cleveland Cavaliers play Colin Sexton is 386 00:18:52,400 --> 00:18:54,719 Speaker 3: their starting point guard who averages two point four assists 387 00:18:54,760 --> 00:18:57,520 Speaker 3: per game, and the basketball is not fun. I don't 388 00:18:57,520 --> 00:18:59,560 Speaker 3: think Kevin Love is having any fun. It is a risk. 389 00:18:59,600 --> 00:19:01,960 Speaker 3: You're right for anybody to take on Kevin levin those 390 00:19:02,040 --> 00:19:05,479 Speaker 3: three years and that body that's not the best of bodies. 391 00:19:06,320 --> 00:19:08,600 Speaker 3: But he's a pro and I think he's going to 392 00:19:08,720 --> 00:19:11,480 Speaker 3: help a team and he is very, very, very very talented, 393 00:19:11,720 --> 00:19:14,439 Speaker 3: and the Cavs are willing to I think because they 394 00:19:14,560 --> 00:19:17,600 Speaker 3: basically said, hey, anyone, take any anybody, come get this guy. 395 00:19:17,640 --> 00:19:20,880 Speaker 3: They're willing to sell low a lot lower than Andre Drummond. 396 00:19:20,920 --> 00:19:23,800 Speaker 3: So for me, it's Kevin each other. 397 00:19:24,119 --> 00:19:26,240 Speaker 2: Is this like NBA jam? Do my shoes catch on 398 00:19:26,320 --> 00:19:29,320 Speaker 2: fire in a row? Is that what happens here? Now, 399 00:19:29,359 --> 00:19:30,879 Speaker 2: I can't lose that type of thing. 400 00:19:30,960 --> 00:19:33,080 Speaker 3: Well, you really count your stats? You're real, Andre Drummond, 401 00:19:33,280 --> 00:19:33,680 Speaker 3: all right. 402 00:19:35,800 --> 00:19:39,040 Speaker 5: Question number six. I've already talked about it. 403 00:19:39,640 --> 00:19:42,480 Speaker 2: But Christmas is just around questions. 404 00:19:42,880 --> 00:19:46,800 Speaker 5: Man, everyone's going to Christmas tree up, So is it 405 00:19:46,960 --> 00:19:49,560 Speaker 5: real or fight? Which one is better? Here we go. 406 00:19:50,080 --> 00:19:54,159 Speaker 2: Look, I'm speaking from experience here. I've never had a 407 00:19:54,240 --> 00:19:59,399 Speaker 2: real tree in my life. Always fake, always fake trees. 408 00:19:59,760 --> 00:20:05,560 Speaker 2: So a real tree. I peer into Tray Kirby's window 409 00:20:05,840 --> 00:20:08,440 Speaker 2: and I look up his stairs and I see, I know, 410 00:20:08,960 --> 00:20:13,120 Speaker 2: I smell before I even see that beautiful, real Christmas 411 00:20:13,200 --> 00:20:16,280 Speaker 2: tree glistening at the top of his stairs, and God, 412 00:20:16,359 --> 00:20:19,080 Speaker 2: I like, I shed a tear wishing I had it. 413 00:20:19,680 --> 00:20:20,520 Speaker 2: So it's real. 414 00:20:21,160 --> 00:20:22,679 Speaker 6: Hands down, You might. 415 00:20:22,640 --> 00:20:24,880 Speaker 4: Shed a tear wishing you had it, but I shed 416 00:20:24,920 --> 00:20:27,800 Speaker 4: a tear putting that dumb thing up. Every single year, 417 00:20:27,880 --> 00:20:30,880 Speaker 4: it's a guaranteed fight between me and somebody. 418 00:20:31,000 --> 00:20:32,879 Speaker 6: When I was young, it was a fight between me 419 00:20:32,960 --> 00:20:34,639 Speaker 6: and my mom. Now that I'm a growing up at 420 00:20:34,640 --> 00:20:36,520 Speaker 6: the fight between me and my wife. Maybe throw the 421 00:20:36,600 --> 00:20:37,080 Speaker 6: kids at. 422 00:20:36,960 --> 00:20:37,720 Speaker 5: A step back. 423 00:20:38,800 --> 00:20:41,600 Speaker 6: Stare Laura, Why can't we just spend the twenty bucks 424 00:20:41,640 --> 00:20:43,320 Speaker 6: to get the one that's attached. Okay, we did it 425 00:20:43,400 --> 00:20:44,760 Speaker 6: this year. It was fine, But let me tell you, 426 00:20:44,880 --> 00:20:46,680 Speaker 6: a fake tree is much easier. 427 00:20:46,880 --> 00:20:47,920 Speaker 2: No, you gotta store it. 428 00:20:48,400 --> 00:20:50,680 Speaker 6: You gotta store it for eleven and a half months. 429 00:20:50,880 --> 00:20:53,120 Speaker 4: Well, you do have to store it, or you can 430 00:20:53,200 --> 00:20:54,600 Speaker 4: just take all the ornaments and lights off it. 431 00:20:54,680 --> 00:20:55,640 Speaker 2: Just say I got a tree. 432 00:20:55,720 --> 00:20:58,000 Speaker 6: It's just like I like this tree. It's my cool 433 00:20:58,119 --> 00:20:58,640 Speaker 6: pine tree. 434 00:20:58,920 --> 00:21:03,080 Speaker 5: Yeah, that's a good point strung end from tree that real. 435 00:21:03,160 --> 00:21:05,359 Speaker 5: It's a real tree. I prefer a real tree. A 436 00:21:05,600 --> 00:21:09,200 Speaker 5: tree not this year, but we have we missed that. 437 00:21:09,520 --> 00:21:12,960 Speaker 5: Something happened. I have a fake tree now, but I 438 00:21:13,040 --> 00:21:13,880 Speaker 5: prefer a real one. 439 00:21:15,600 --> 00:21:25,480 Speaker 3: Real trees way better. Yeah it's I I say that 440 00:21:25,640 --> 00:21:28,680 Speaker 3: now because I don't have a real tree. Yeah, real 441 00:21:28,760 --> 00:21:33,120 Speaker 3: trees better in theory, fake trees better in practicality. 442 00:21:33,359 --> 00:21:36,000 Speaker 2: But it's going to be cheaper having a fake tree 443 00:21:36,359 --> 00:21:38,280 Speaker 2: than buying a real tree every year, no doubt. 444 00:21:38,640 --> 00:21:41,840 Speaker 1: Event sometimes they're like three hundred. 445 00:21:43,720 --> 00:21:45,720 Speaker 2: But they come. I'm making the case for you now. 446 00:21:47,200 --> 00:21:48,960 Speaker 2: Now you can get them with the lights, like already 447 00:21:50,119 --> 00:21:50,800 Speaker 2: that's amazing. 448 00:21:51,040 --> 00:21:52,840 Speaker 3: It's still not cheap. 449 00:21:53,119 --> 00:21:55,040 Speaker 2: And then you know, if you have a cat or 450 00:21:55,080 --> 00:21:58,359 Speaker 2: something with a real tree, well you're screwed, like taking 451 00:21:58,400 --> 00:22:01,040 Speaker 2: down the branches like you you were my buddy Dubs 452 00:22:01,080 --> 00:22:03,840 Speaker 2: tree because you had the cat. It is like it's 453 00:22:03,880 --> 00:22:06,359 Speaker 2: a real Christmas tree. And then they have to like, 454 00:22:07,160 --> 00:22:09,760 Speaker 2: you know, cut it all the way up the stem, 455 00:22:10,119 --> 00:22:12,160 Speaker 2: like two feet up so that the cat like can't 456 00:22:12,160 --> 00:22:14,240 Speaker 2: get in there and rip them down and stuff like that. 457 00:22:14,800 --> 00:22:17,000 Speaker 2: It looks silly. It's like starting to look like a 458 00:22:17,119 --> 00:22:18,720 Speaker 2: Charlie Brown christ or something like that. 459 00:22:19,000 --> 00:22:21,359 Speaker 4: But you know what, Charlie Brown Christmas tree is a 460 00:22:21,440 --> 00:22:23,280 Speaker 4: real tree. And if you got a Charlie Brown tree, 461 00:22:23,320 --> 00:22:25,440 Speaker 4: people are loving it. Another great part cut up the 462 00:22:25,520 --> 00:22:28,160 Speaker 4: bottom right the year on it, save it forever. You're like, wow, 463 00:22:28,240 --> 00:22:29,960 Speaker 4: that was our tree in two thousand and nine. 464 00:22:30,119 --> 00:22:31,280 Speaker 3: Dude, you do that? 465 00:22:31,680 --> 00:22:33,800 Speaker 2: Of course, that's very very cool, very cool. Do you 466 00:22:34,000 --> 00:22:37,440 Speaker 2: does your fake tree JD? Does it have that fake 467 00:22:37,880 --> 00:22:39,160 Speaker 2: real Christmas tree smell? 468 00:22:39,400 --> 00:22:42,240 Speaker 5: They some have that, yeah, but that's no. 469 00:22:43,160 --> 00:22:44,600 Speaker 2: It's like one of those things you bought a car. 470 00:22:44,920 --> 00:22:46,760 Speaker 5: Yeah, you basically you have to buy those little scent 471 00:22:46,880 --> 00:22:50,280 Speaker 5: things to dangle off it to get the smell of that. 472 00:22:50,480 --> 00:22:51,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, I love the smell. 473 00:22:52,000 --> 00:22:54,800 Speaker 5: I love I love the smell of the Christmas tree 474 00:22:54,920 --> 00:22:56,680 Speaker 5: creates the atmosphere in the house. 475 00:22:56,520 --> 00:22:56,720 Speaker 2: You know. 476 00:22:58,440 --> 00:22:59,800 Speaker 3: Or you can just buy a candle they make. 477 00:23:00,160 --> 00:23:03,240 Speaker 5: Can I put it near the real Christmas trade though? 478 00:23:03,680 --> 00:23:04,040 Speaker 3: All right? 479 00:23:06,440 --> 00:23:10,720 Speaker 4: Round seven skeets and tasks. Which one of these players 480 00:23:11,000 --> 00:23:15,320 Speaker 4: needs more help? Trey Young are Karl Anthony Towns Skates. 481 00:23:16,400 --> 00:23:19,440 Speaker 2: I can't go Towns because he signed that giant deal 482 00:23:19,520 --> 00:23:21,240 Speaker 2: with Mini. You know, he knew what he was getting 483 00:23:21,280 --> 00:23:23,480 Speaker 2: himself into with that. He'll be fined. I'll be making 484 00:23:23,560 --> 00:23:25,920 Speaker 2: thirty six million dollars down the road in like twenty 485 00:23:26,000 --> 00:23:28,160 Speaker 2: twenty three. I gotta go Trey Young. He needs help. 486 00:23:28,520 --> 00:23:31,040 Speaker 2: He needs help because he will be ending sort of 487 00:23:31,119 --> 00:23:33,720 Speaker 2: his rookie deal and it's gonna be going. Ah, this 488 00:23:33,920 --> 00:23:35,680 Speaker 2: is my squad. Note thanks, I'm out of here. So 489 00:23:36,200 --> 00:23:38,760 Speaker 2: John Collins only having played five games obviously hurts. But 490 00:23:39,480 --> 00:23:42,119 Speaker 2: he got like Alex landon Bembry and then the rookies 491 00:23:42,200 --> 00:23:44,800 Speaker 2: Hunter and registered. Yeah, like one of the Hawk's best 492 00:23:44,800 --> 00:23:47,440 Speaker 2: players honestly right now is a forty three year old 493 00:23:47,480 --> 00:23:50,760 Speaker 2: guy named Vince Carter. Forty I'm sorry, but he is 494 00:23:50,960 --> 00:23:53,440 Speaker 2: one of their better players. Units that's not good. 495 00:23:53,520 --> 00:23:56,560 Speaker 3: I go try. It's definitely Carl Anthony Towns. He's set 496 00:23:56,640 --> 00:23:59,280 Speaker 3: with this team around him and it's not very good. 497 00:23:59,359 --> 00:24:03,119 Speaker 3: He needs somebody to break out miraculously. He needs Andrew 498 00:24:03,160 --> 00:24:05,240 Speaker 3: Wiggins to come back to his own fricking island. I 499 00:24:05,240 --> 00:24:07,960 Speaker 3: don't think Andrew Wiggins believes in himself, and that's maybe 500 00:24:08,000 --> 00:24:11,240 Speaker 3: why you're not picking Andrew Wiggins because he love him Skeets, 501 00:24:11,320 --> 00:24:13,640 Speaker 3: I understand, but it's cat because. 502 00:24:13,560 --> 00:24:15,800 Speaker 2: Wiggins is better than everyone else on the Hawks. 503 00:24:16,119 --> 00:24:19,359 Speaker 3: Yeah, but he's also signed and they're five games under 504 00:24:19,680 --> 00:24:23,440 Speaker 3: five hundred. They're terrible. Wouldn't you rather have the Hawks 505 00:24:23,520 --> 00:24:27,400 Speaker 3: future where it's Trey Young and free agency cap space forever? 506 00:24:27,800 --> 00:24:31,159 Speaker 3: Like if Jared Culver doesn't break out, they just have 507 00:24:31,240 --> 00:24:34,840 Speaker 3: another mediocre pick that they're gonna just carry into the future. 508 00:24:34,920 --> 00:24:37,320 Speaker 3: Unless Jared Kohler brother, who scored one hundred points in 509 00:24:37,359 --> 00:24:39,879 Speaker 3: high school, comes and joins the team, their team is 510 00:24:39,960 --> 00:24:43,200 Speaker 3: set for the future. This is it. It does not 511 00:24:43,359 --> 00:24:45,560 Speaker 3: look good for the next three years. Well, the Hawks 512 00:24:45,600 --> 00:24:48,040 Speaker 3: at least they have a ton of flexibility around well. 513 00:24:48,040 --> 00:24:50,280 Speaker 2: They both we were agreeing. They both need help. But 514 00:24:50,560 --> 00:24:53,240 Speaker 2: the Wolves are a better team than the Hawks. 515 00:24:53,480 --> 00:24:54,600 Speaker 3: A better bad team. 516 00:24:54,800 --> 00:24:56,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, well, yeah, I think I'm going with. 517 00:24:56,920 --> 00:24:59,160 Speaker 5: The Towns on this one because he's in U five 518 00:24:59,280 --> 00:25:01,200 Speaker 5: and he's to get to that point where he's like, 519 00:25:01,720 --> 00:25:03,840 Speaker 5: all right, I'm out of here, trade me. 520 00:25:04,640 --> 00:25:06,720 Speaker 2: Record already call it, Anthony Davis two point. 521 00:25:07,040 --> 00:25:09,040 Speaker 5: Trey Young is only an his second year. This still 522 00:25:09,080 --> 00:25:11,560 Speaker 5: time And also this is what Travis Flink is build 523 00:25:11,720 --> 00:25:14,160 Speaker 5: I know, but they're building things with the young guys 524 00:25:14,200 --> 00:25:15,959 Speaker 5: in in cam redg and DeAndre how to give him 525 00:25:15,960 --> 00:25:17,640 Speaker 5: a little bit of time By the time it's year 526 00:25:17,680 --> 00:25:19,240 Speaker 5: four for Trey Young, these guys are gonna be in 527 00:25:19,320 --> 00:25:22,160 Speaker 5: year three, and that means they should start to see 528 00:25:22,240 --> 00:25:24,080 Speaker 5: a little bit more of a light at the end 529 00:25:24,119 --> 00:25:26,119 Speaker 5: of the tunnel. Right now, the Timber Wolves is just 530 00:25:26,320 --> 00:25:27,840 Speaker 5: the same old, same old, every year. 531 00:25:28,440 --> 00:25:32,720 Speaker 4: Tricky question because I'm a little bit of the mind 532 00:25:32,760 --> 00:25:35,520 Speaker 4: that Towns does have the help. The guys are there, 533 00:25:35,960 --> 00:25:37,800 Speaker 4: they just need to be better, and he does need 534 00:25:37,800 --> 00:25:39,560 Speaker 4: a point guard who can actually like pass him the ball. 535 00:25:39,600 --> 00:25:42,040 Speaker 4: The Wiggins and Culver are not point guards, despite the 536 00:25:42,080 --> 00:25:44,119 Speaker 4: fact that they've basically been playing point guard this season. 537 00:25:44,920 --> 00:25:47,440 Speaker 4: Trey Young needs everything else. So I think I'm gonna 538 00:25:47,440 --> 00:25:49,840 Speaker 4: go with Trey because he literally just needs. 539 00:25:49,760 --> 00:25:53,880 Speaker 6: More and more people around him. A higher number is more, 540 00:25:54,280 --> 00:25:55,520 Speaker 6: So give me Trey, alright. 541 00:25:56,520 --> 00:25:59,440 Speaker 1: So JD, I'm gonna go with Tass on this one. 542 00:26:00,520 --> 00:26:02,600 Speaker 1: I mean, your points are well taken. 543 00:26:04,840 --> 00:26:05,240 Speaker 3: Coverage. 544 00:26:09,200 --> 00:26:17,719 Speaker 2: So we have Round eight tasks versus guys the bigger 545 00:26:17,800 --> 00:26:20,639 Speaker 2: surprise Heat or Mavericks. 546 00:26:21,640 --> 00:26:22,240 Speaker 3: What you got? 547 00:26:22,800 --> 00:26:23,520 Speaker 2: Oh wait, that's wrong. 548 00:26:25,840 --> 00:26:29,639 Speaker 3: I got the Miami keat if this was two and 549 00:26:29,680 --> 00:26:33,719 Speaker 3: a half months ago, and I said, named like Duncan Robinson, 550 00:26:34,440 --> 00:26:39,760 Speaker 3: Kendrick Nunn, even a little bit of Tyler Herrow because 551 00:26:39,760 --> 00:26:42,520 Speaker 3: I wouldn't know how to pronounce it properly, Tyler Hero 552 00:26:43,200 --> 00:26:46,280 Speaker 3: who are contributing big time to a team, a team 553 00:26:46,359 --> 00:26:48,720 Speaker 3: that's in the top four in the Eastern Conference. You 554 00:26:48,760 --> 00:26:54,520 Speaker 3: would say you're wrong, but these guys are thriving. I 555 00:26:54,600 --> 00:26:57,320 Speaker 3: think all of those combined are more shocking than what 556 00:26:57,440 --> 00:27:00,720 Speaker 3: the MAVs have done at the top of their The. 557 00:27:01,000 --> 00:27:03,480 Speaker 5: MAVs, though, have gone from a team kind of on 558 00:27:03,600 --> 00:27:06,320 Speaker 5: the periphery of the playoffs to the third best team 559 00:27:06,960 --> 00:27:10,000 Speaker 5: in the Western Conference and took down Lebron and the 560 00:27:10,080 --> 00:27:13,399 Speaker 5: Lakers in Los Angeles, where it wasn't really so much 561 00:27:13,440 --> 00:27:15,280 Speaker 5: of a handing over of the baton from Lebron to 562 00:27:15,359 --> 00:27:17,959 Speaker 5: Luka Doncic. Luca just said, hey, I'm the star, now 563 00:27:18,320 --> 00:27:20,119 Speaker 5: give me this league, and he went out there and 564 00:27:20,200 --> 00:27:23,520 Speaker 5: took it. Doncic is an MVP candidate. Jimmy Butler's been good, 565 00:27:23,560 --> 00:27:27,000 Speaker 5: he's not an MVP candidate. He's the best players. I'm surprising, 566 00:27:27,160 --> 00:27:29,960 Speaker 5: but I don't think anyone thought the Mavericks were going 567 00:27:30,040 --> 00:27:33,680 Speaker 5: to go this far, considering Porzingis hasn't even been that good. 568 00:27:34,160 --> 00:27:37,920 Speaker 5: Right now, it's Doncic. Clearly, he's carrying this team. He's 569 00:27:37,960 --> 00:27:40,920 Speaker 5: only twenty years old and he's making this team a 570 00:27:41,080 --> 00:27:44,240 Speaker 5: legit contender already. For me, it's the Dallas man. 571 00:27:44,560 --> 00:27:46,800 Speaker 2: Do I penalize you for coming in after the buzzer 572 00:27:46,880 --> 00:27:48,879 Speaker 2: with that fire you were bringing. I was waiting for 573 00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:51,920 Speaker 2: the kep angle and you brought it. But well after 574 00:27:52,040 --> 00:27:54,439 Speaker 2: the buzzer, well after the buzzer, I don't know how 575 00:27:54,480 --> 00:27:57,520 Speaker 2: to judge this one. Tree go ahead if you know well. 576 00:27:57,440 --> 00:27:59,200 Speaker 4: I thought the Mavericks were going to be way worse 577 00:27:59,640 --> 00:28:02,480 Speaker 4: than so I'm more surprised by the Mavericks. They got 578 00:28:02,520 --> 00:28:05,080 Speaker 4: the best offense in the league. The Mavericks one of 579 00:28:05,160 --> 00:28:08,879 Speaker 4: the best offenses in NBA history watching them, I know 580 00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:11,359 Speaker 4: you're not the best offense in NBA history, but somehow 581 00:28:11,680 --> 00:28:12,000 Speaker 4: they are. 582 00:28:12,640 --> 00:28:15,520 Speaker 2: Oh man, this I'm torn. You guys made great points, 583 00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:18,359 Speaker 2: Like to go with what Tass was saying, the heat 584 00:28:18,440 --> 00:28:22,960 Speaker 2: ranked top ten offensively and defensively. That's pretty special. You 585 00:28:23,040 --> 00:28:24,880 Speaker 2: got Bam playing like an All star, all those guys 586 00:28:24,960 --> 00:28:26,960 Speaker 2: you listed that everybody would have been like, who the 587 00:28:27,000 --> 00:28:29,320 Speaker 2: heck are those guys? They're contributing, Dragig flourishing as a 588 00:28:29,359 --> 00:28:33,040 Speaker 2: six man, even like Winslow and Derk Jones junior. They 589 00:28:33,040 --> 00:28:35,080 Speaker 2: haven't even played that much. They played ten games each, 590 00:28:36,119 --> 00:28:38,640 Speaker 2: so they could theoretically even be a better team here. 591 00:28:39,680 --> 00:28:41,960 Speaker 2: But the KP one is interesting to have them at 592 00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:44,680 Speaker 2: sixteen and seven and the bench contributing the way it 593 00:28:44,760 --> 00:28:46,920 Speaker 2: is and Luca taking that next step without KP really 594 00:28:46,960 --> 00:28:50,400 Speaker 2: doing a whole lot. I'm gonna go, oh, I'm gonna 595 00:28:50,400 --> 00:28:53,080 Speaker 2: go with the Dallas Batricks. Yeah, Leley, you are you 596 00:28:53,200 --> 00:28:55,000 Speaker 2: are advancing. That was a nice round. That was a 597 00:28:55,080 --> 00:28:55,720 Speaker 2: good battle there. 598 00:28:56,880 --> 00:28:57,320 Speaker 3: Good for you. 599 00:28:57,920 --> 00:29:04,160 Speaker 5: Thanks first went first, wintulations. That is I just hope 600 00:29:04,160 --> 00:29:07,000 Speaker 5: there's not a Christmas question that I'm not gonna coming 601 00:29:07,080 --> 00:29:08,400 Speaker 5: up all right. 602 00:29:08,480 --> 00:29:13,360 Speaker 3: Next round here, round number nine, first time Celtics All Star. 603 00:29:14,840 --> 00:29:17,880 Speaker 3: Is it gonna be Jason Taetum or Jalen Brown Lee Tree? 604 00:29:18,080 --> 00:29:22,080 Speaker 5: Here we are, man, This one is It's high and tough. 605 00:29:22,200 --> 00:29:24,160 Speaker 5: It really comes down to who you prefer, who you 606 00:29:24,200 --> 00:29:26,120 Speaker 5: think is a better player having a better season. For me, 607 00:29:27,280 --> 00:29:31,320 Speaker 5: it's Jalen Brown because I just think he has been 608 00:29:31,440 --> 00:29:33,480 Speaker 5: better over all than Jason Tatum. I think Jason Tatum 609 00:29:33,520 --> 00:29:36,320 Speaker 5: takes still a few silly shots, a few careless shots, 610 00:29:36,480 --> 00:29:39,160 Speaker 5: whereas Brown has been coming in twenty points a game, 611 00:29:39,280 --> 00:29:41,440 Speaker 5: seven rebounds a game, a couple of assists, and just 612 00:29:41,560 --> 00:29:44,680 Speaker 5: been a fantastic better defender I think as well than 613 00:29:44,760 --> 00:29:47,680 Speaker 5: Jason Tatum. Both of them have been fantastic. I would 614 00:29:47,720 --> 00:29:50,080 Speaker 5: sort of expecting Jason Tatum to take a bigger leap 615 00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:50,680 Speaker 5: up this season. 616 00:29:50,720 --> 00:29:51,680 Speaker 2: He hasn't quite done. 617 00:29:51,600 --> 00:29:53,960 Speaker 5: That, but as I think Jalen Brown has got that 618 00:29:54,040 --> 00:29:56,400 Speaker 5: big contract in the off season and shown that he's 619 00:29:56,480 --> 00:30:00,160 Speaker 5: worth it. Slightly higher pr tough one, but I'm going 620 00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:00,720 Speaker 5: Jaylen Brown. 621 00:30:00,720 --> 00:30:02,520 Speaker 4: You're right, This one is tough and tight. It comes 622 00:30:02,600 --> 00:30:05,720 Speaker 4: down to who you think is better. You're going with 623 00:30:05,760 --> 00:30:07,600 Speaker 4: the Browns. I'm going with the Greens. Give me Jason 624 00:30:07,640 --> 00:30:09,720 Speaker 4: Tatum because he's the one who actually has to do 625 00:30:09,840 --> 00:30:12,080 Speaker 4: stuff out there. He's got a twenty eight percent usage 626 00:30:12,160 --> 00:30:15,840 Speaker 4: rate twenty three percent for Jalen Brown. Ninety five percent 627 00:30:15,920 --> 00:30:18,840 Speaker 4: of Jalen Brown's three point makes have been assisted. Jason 628 00:30:18,880 --> 00:30:21,680 Speaker 4: Tatum's actually out there making plays twenty one to seven 629 00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:22,800 Speaker 4: three assists. 630 00:30:23,040 --> 00:30:26,040 Speaker 6: People are keying on him. Jalen Brown is just feasting 631 00:30:26,080 --> 00:30:26,880 Speaker 6: on the scraps. 632 00:30:27,480 --> 00:30:31,440 Speaker 3: Wow, Wow, I spoke to my heart when you talk 633 00:30:31,560 --> 00:30:35,880 Speaker 3: compost Trey, and I do think Tatum is the more talented, 634 00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:40,080 Speaker 3: more skilled player. He probably took a his reputation took 635 00:30:40,120 --> 00:30:43,200 Speaker 3: a harder hit last year than Jalen Brown's did with 636 00:30:43,360 --> 00:30:46,200 Speaker 3: the whole Kyrie Irving situation. Tatum at higher expectations, so 637 00:30:46,320 --> 00:30:48,160 Speaker 3: he got beat down a little bit more and Jalen 638 00:30:48,200 --> 00:30:50,480 Speaker 3: Brown just kind of flew under the radar. So people 639 00:30:50,520 --> 00:30:52,240 Speaker 3: are looking at Jalen Brown and saying, Wow. 640 00:30:52,280 --> 00:30:52,880 Speaker 5: That guy's great. 641 00:30:52,960 --> 00:30:56,520 Speaker 3: Maybe he's just sort of impressing more because his expectations 642 00:30:56,520 --> 00:30:58,760 Speaker 3: were lower, but Tatum has to do more. Their numbers 643 00:30:58,800 --> 00:31:00,760 Speaker 3: are the same, and I want to see a guy 644 00:31:00,880 --> 00:31:02,520 Speaker 3: who's like a younger version of Paul George in the 645 00:31:02,560 --> 00:31:04,480 Speaker 3: same game as Paul George at that All Star game. 646 00:31:04,560 --> 00:31:05,320 Speaker 3: That would be fun to watch. 647 00:31:05,320 --> 00:31:10,200 Speaker 2: So you're going Tray there. Look the similar minutes and 648 00:31:10,320 --> 00:31:13,320 Speaker 2: similar counting stats between the two Tatum and Brown. Yes, 649 00:31:13,480 --> 00:31:17,080 Speaker 2: but but but but Brown is more efficient. He is, 650 00:31:17,560 --> 00:31:20,840 Speaker 2: and I like what he gives them defensively as well. 651 00:31:21,040 --> 00:31:24,080 Speaker 2: He's the better defensive player. I am throwing my vote 652 00:31:24,120 --> 00:31:27,560 Speaker 2: behind Lee. We got a one one tie. Jd Well, 653 00:31:27,720 --> 00:31:28,120 Speaker 2: I break it. 654 00:31:28,840 --> 00:31:32,160 Speaker 1: I'm gonna have to go with Trey here because Lee, 655 00:31:33,200 --> 00:31:36,400 Speaker 1: first of all, you went about forty seconds into the 656 00:31:36,560 --> 00:31:43,480 Speaker 1: minute sixty seconds the previous question. You went well over 657 00:31:43,560 --> 00:31:46,280 Speaker 1: the buzzer and I would have voted against you for 658 00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:47,080 Speaker 1: that stick. 659 00:31:47,560 --> 00:31:52,440 Speaker 5: So Trey, I didn't know we were on such tight 660 00:31:52,880 --> 00:31:53,680 Speaker 5: time constraint. 661 00:31:53,760 --> 00:31:56,440 Speaker 1: There's a reason there's a clock, Lee, Man. 662 00:31:56,960 --> 00:31:58,760 Speaker 3: I think I'm going to side with Lee on this one. 663 00:31:58,840 --> 00:32:04,200 Speaker 3: It's a podcast exactly the clock then, because we want 664 00:32:04,240 --> 00:32:05,200 Speaker 3: to do TV again. 665 00:32:06,080 --> 00:32:07,760 Speaker 2: The point of the clock is for people to get 666 00:32:07,880 --> 00:32:11,520 Speaker 2: upset by about the second Crossfire show. I hate that music. 667 00:32:11,640 --> 00:32:12,400 Speaker 2: Please change it. 668 00:32:12,720 --> 00:32:15,600 Speaker 1: We play that music for thirteen minutes straight every Friday. 669 00:32:16,760 --> 00:32:17,920 Speaker 6: It's the Saturday Jam. 670 00:32:18,080 --> 00:32:21,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, all right fine on one. 671 00:32:21,600 --> 00:32:24,040 Speaker 5: And of course the winner of this one wins the 672 00:32:27,200 --> 00:32:28,640 Speaker 5: and it's a super weird one. 673 00:32:29,040 --> 00:32:29,160 Speaker 6: Uh. 674 00:32:29,960 --> 00:32:32,600 Speaker 5: The New York Knicks currently have an interim coach, Mike Miller. No, 675 00:32:32,720 --> 00:32:35,160 Speaker 5: not that Mike Miller, another guy called Mike Miller. So 676 00:32:35,280 --> 00:32:38,479 Speaker 5: who will be the next Knicks full time coach? Whoopy 677 00:32:38,560 --> 00:32:41,239 Speaker 5: Goldberg or Lee Ellis? Uh? 678 00:32:42,600 --> 00:32:43,120 Speaker 6: Who's up? 679 00:32:43,320 --> 00:32:44,800 Speaker 5: I remember Tray. 680 00:32:46,120 --> 00:32:49,479 Speaker 4: Give me Whoopie. She was great and Eddie pulled her 681 00:32:49,520 --> 00:32:52,320 Speaker 4: out of the stands. Things aren't going well at first, 682 00:32:52,400 --> 00:32:54,440 Speaker 4: but then she's able to get through to the players. 683 00:32:55,080 --> 00:32:57,680 Speaker 6: She had the gall to sit the star. 684 00:32:58,400 --> 00:33:01,080 Speaker 4: Stacy Patton said, sit on the bench and be a 685 00:33:01,160 --> 00:33:03,920 Speaker 4: team player. He sat on the bench. They won so 686 00:33:04,120 --> 00:33:08,360 Speaker 4: many games. But then his replacement gets into and Whoopy 687 00:33:08,560 --> 00:33:10,760 Speaker 4: has gotten through to Stacy. Patton gets him and he's 688 00:33:10,800 --> 00:33:13,400 Speaker 4: moving the ball, passing it left and right up up, 689 00:33:13,680 --> 00:33:14,600 Speaker 4: pull off a great win. 690 00:33:14,680 --> 00:33:17,480 Speaker 6: Whoopee has proven it on the biggest stage. 691 00:33:17,800 --> 00:33:19,920 Speaker 2: I am not pandering to one of the judges here, 692 00:33:20,040 --> 00:33:22,000 Speaker 2: but it is Leellis. And here is why. I'll give 693 00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:25,800 Speaker 2: you two reasons. Okay, the Knicks they shoot thirty five 694 00:33:25,840 --> 00:33:28,160 Speaker 2: percent from three. They ranked twenty second in the league. 695 00:33:28,200 --> 00:33:30,479 Speaker 2: What can my man Leellis, chieve somebody to do hit 696 00:33:30,520 --> 00:33:32,560 Speaker 2: a three. We've seen it with our own eves. The 697 00:33:32,680 --> 00:33:36,680 Speaker 2: other thing, the Knicks shoot sixty seven point seven percent 698 00:33:36,800 --> 00:33:41,280 Speaker 2: from the free throw line. That is dead last in 699 00:33:41,400 --> 00:33:44,400 Speaker 2: the league. What can my man Leellis do? He could 700 00:33:44,400 --> 00:33:46,880 Speaker 2: teach someone how to get a damn free throw? Lee, 701 00:33:47,200 --> 00:33:49,560 Speaker 2: you are the coach to save the New York Knicks. 702 00:33:49,600 --> 00:33:50,720 Speaker 6: They already fired him once. 703 00:33:50,880 --> 00:33:54,360 Speaker 5: Yeah, bring him back, guy said at this point, why 704 00:33:54,480 --> 00:33:58,040 Speaker 5: not give me a shot? Why not what I do 705 00:33:58,240 --> 00:33:59,760 Speaker 5: worse than some of the other coaches have. 706 00:34:00,160 --> 00:34:00,640 Speaker 2: How do I think? 707 00:34:01,000 --> 00:34:03,560 Speaker 5: I think I'd probably beat beat give me twenty five games. 708 00:34:03,560 --> 00:34:05,920 Speaker 5: I think I'm going five and twenty. That's how the 709 00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:08,640 Speaker 5: Knicks are now, I think because f style was four 710 00:34:08,719 --> 00:34:10,720 Speaker 5: and twenty. Wow, they're five minutes after. 711 00:34:10,600 --> 00:34:12,800 Speaker 2: They beat the Warriors in overtime. You give up a 712 00:34:12,840 --> 00:34:15,000 Speaker 2: twenty point lead. All right, So who's that? Vote for yourself? 713 00:34:16,280 --> 00:34:17,480 Speaker 2: A vote for you is a vote for me. 714 00:34:19,360 --> 00:34:22,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, I I'm with Lelis. He got fired. I think 715 00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:24,880 Speaker 3: he'll ask for more power when he gets re hired. 716 00:34:25,680 --> 00:34:28,080 Speaker 3: I know he's a man who likes to ask for tickets. 717 00:34:28,640 --> 00:34:30,879 Speaker 3: I would be willing to take a few tickets from him, 718 00:34:31,440 --> 00:34:35,440 Speaker 3: and uh, I already see enough view clips come through 719 00:34:35,480 --> 00:34:37,680 Speaker 3: my timeline. If Whoope's on there, I'm just gonna get 720 00:34:37,719 --> 00:34:42,480 Speaker 3: more bombarded by more view clips and I've had enough. Yes, 721 00:34:42,719 --> 00:34:45,560 Speaker 3: that's it, Skeats, I walk. 722 00:34:45,400 --> 00:34:49,760 Speaker 2: Out of our first ever Crossfire podcast. Ask Crossfire Champion, 723 00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:52,800 Speaker 2: I will be defending the belt next time we do this. 724 00:34:53,040 --> 00:34:54,399 Speaker 2: If we do it, I think we will. 725 00:34:54,680 --> 00:34:54,879 Speaker 6: Yeah. 726 00:34:54,960 --> 00:34:56,000 Speaker 2: That was actually sort of fine. 727 00:34:56,040 --> 00:34:57,359 Speaker 6: Yeah, I gotta hear that music again. 728 00:34:57,480 --> 00:34:59,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, we're working out the kinks a little bit in 729 00:34:59,440 --> 00:35:01,399 Speaker 2: terms of who up next? Three gets a little wild 730 00:35:01,440 --> 00:35:03,080 Speaker 2: there at times, like all right, you just lost, Okay, 731 00:35:03,120 --> 00:35:03,640 Speaker 2: now you're sitting. 732 00:35:05,239 --> 00:35:05,439 Speaker 6: Yeah. 733 00:35:05,480 --> 00:35:08,359 Speaker 2: I actually was helping when people would start putting their 734 00:35:08,400 --> 00:35:10,719 Speaker 2: hands up. All right, I'm off next round. So maybe 735 00:35:10,760 --> 00:35:13,600 Speaker 2: we should do that. Here's the question for you guys 736 00:35:13,640 --> 00:35:15,320 Speaker 2: out there listening though. First off, did you like it? 737 00:35:15,400 --> 00:35:17,279 Speaker 2: Let us know hashtag no dunks at No Dunk saying, 738 00:35:17,320 --> 00:35:18,880 Speaker 2: and if you have a question that could work in 739 00:35:18,960 --> 00:35:23,360 Speaker 2: Crossfire for the future, an NBA question, a silly one, whatever, 740 00:35:23,960 --> 00:35:26,239 Speaker 2: email it in to No Dunks at the Athletic dot 741 00:35:26,280 --> 00:35:28,839 Speaker 2: Com or tweet at us at no Dunk Say, Maybe 742 00:35:28,960 --> 00:35:31,600 Speaker 2: throw a maybe throw a hashtag crossfire on there too. 743 00:35:32,520 --> 00:35:33,200 Speaker 5: I don't know why not. 744 00:35:33,640 --> 00:35:35,320 Speaker 2: Why not we'll get cross fire trending. 745 00:35:36,040 --> 00:35:36,279 Speaker 1: Guys. 746 00:35:36,320 --> 00:35:37,759 Speaker 2: Thanks for joining us. We'll talk to you sooner.