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Speaker 1: This is the most dramatic podcast ever and I heart

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Speaker 1: radio podcast. Hello everybody, and welcome to the most dramatic

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Speaker 1: podcast ever. I am Chris Harrison, join once again by

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Speaker 1: the lovely Laurenzima, who is back with this this week.

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Speaker 1: Tan rested and ready to keel it up after a

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Speaker 1: girl's trip. Wow, maybe too much tequila. I mean, when

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Speaker 1: you're drinking every day, you got to stop it at

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Speaker 1: some point. At some point when you're on vacation, you're

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Speaker 1: thinking I need a vacation from Yes, my liver needs

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Speaker 1: a spa. Yes, But I'm glad you're home. I'm glad

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Speaker 1: you're back. By the way, thank you for giving me

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Speaker 1: a mention while I was gone. I loved what you

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Speaker 1: said about how we take time to do things that

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Speaker 1: are important to each of us, to have girls trips,

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Speaker 1: have guys trips, and I like missing you. It's nice

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Speaker 1: to miss you. It was one of the things that

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Speaker 1: I loved quickly about you is that your friends are

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Speaker 1: dear to you. You make them a priority along with

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Speaker 1: your family, and that was clear that, Hey, you still

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Speaker 1: need to keep your life. I'm going to keep mine.

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Speaker 1: They will blend clearly, and that's one of the beautiful

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Speaker 1: things about a relationship, but we also got to keep

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Speaker 1: our separate lives going for our individuality but also to

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Speaker 1: feed our soul in those ways. And I love that.

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Speaker 1: It's an important balance to find because I do think

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Speaker 1: people sometimes you walk that dangerous line of thinking opposites

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Speaker 1: have nothing in common with, Like you have to like

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Speaker 1: to tell somebody about your day and to show them

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Speaker 1: something you love and teach them about it. And in

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Speaker 1: this case, I loved tequila and girlfriends. But anyway, we

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Speaker 1: also talk about I could go on a rant about this,

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Speaker 1: but you know what we talk about a lot is

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Speaker 1: the difference between a girl's trip and a guy's trip.

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Speaker 1: Like I always say, when me and my girlfriends go

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Speaker 1: on a trip, the activity is talking, right. We are

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Speaker 1: talking the whole time. We are diving in like how

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Speaker 1: is your marriage, what's going on with you? We get deep,

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Speaker 1: we probably cry at some point, and then when you

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Speaker 1: come back from like a guy's golf, Guys base their

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Speaker 1: trips on an activity, right, So our activity is we're

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Speaker 1: going hunting, we're going fishing, we're going golfing. So we

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Speaker 1: have an activity and around that there might be some

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Speaker 1: talk possibly that goes deep. But we have an activity,

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Speaker 1: whereas your activity is we're going to be together and

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Speaker 1: just talk. Well, we could really dig into all this.

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Speaker 1: It might be a whole episode on its side. Do

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Speaker 1: this someday because it is fascinating and how women talk

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Speaker 1: and will actually well, I don't want to go too far,

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Speaker 1: but we will get into this someday. I think sleeping

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Speaker 1: arrangements are very interesting to me, and that I don't

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Speaker 1: want to scratch the surface, because once we get going,

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Speaker 1: we will dive into this rabbit hole. It is award season, Elsie.

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Speaker 1: You are obviously deep into this world, having worked at

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Speaker 1: entertainment tonight for the better part of a decade. Well

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Speaker 1: you are too, mister. You did money Red Carpets for

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Speaker 1: Team I did actually a little known fact because very

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Speaker 1: Red carpet for TV Guide. I executive produced and hosted

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Speaker 1: the Red Carpet for TV Guide for many years. So

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Speaker 1: obviously did the Globes, the SAG Awards, which were last night.

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Speaker 1: The Grammys and the Oscars. Those are the big four

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Speaker 1: of the redheaded step children. The SAG Awards are kind

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Speaker 1: of the lesser known, lesser talked about publicly but privately

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Speaker 1: within Hollywood. It is a very time honored tradition because

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Speaker 1: it's so personal. It is the Screen Actors Guild. Well,

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Speaker 1: what's interesting is a lot of people are saying that

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Speaker 1: like that the speeches were fun, that it was just

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Speaker 1: the most dramatic headlines every week, and what's more dramatic

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Speaker 1: interesting too, Like one, you know, we talk about both

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Speaker 1: What do you think, mister ratings guy? You always follow

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Speaker 1: I mean, I don't think people don't awards shows like

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Speaker 1: But and I'll be as we're about to sit here

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Speaker 1: The best is yet to come, and what you know, well,

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Speaker 1: know how manure they're They're shoveling manure metaphorically and literally

425
00:21:42,680 --> 00:21:47,320
Speaker 1: right away. You rarely ever cuss. It's kind of sexy

426
00:21:47,359 --> 00:21:53,080
Speaker 1: when you do. Wow, Well, we're gonna take a time

427
00:21:53,080 --> 00:21:57,760
Speaker 1: out and come benou so well, yeah, and they get

428
00:21:57,840 --> 00:22:00,360
Speaker 1: right into it. And also, like I said, these guys

429
00:22:00,359 --> 00:22:03,720
Speaker 1: are all in their thirties, so I really the believability

430
00:22:03,760 --> 00:22:06,639
Speaker 1: factor on this show for me was pretty high in

431
00:22:06,720 --> 00:22:09,639
Speaker 1: terms of I felt like this is real. These guys

432
00:22:09,680 --> 00:22:12,760
Speaker 1: really have not been able to find someone. Also, all

433
00:22:12,800 --> 00:22:15,960
Speaker 1: the contestants were a little bit older. Which look, I'm

434
00:22:16,000 --> 00:22:17,960
Speaker 1: not saying, of course, in your twenties you deserve to

435
00:22:17,960 --> 00:22:19,639
Speaker 1: find love and you should be looking for it. But

436
00:22:19,680 --> 00:22:22,440
Speaker 1: if we're talking about if we're basing this around the

437
00:22:22,520 --> 00:22:24,840
Speaker 1: narrative of I haven't been able to find love, I

438
00:22:24,840 --> 00:22:26,840
Speaker 1: find it more believable with people who are a bit older,

439
00:22:26,880 --> 00:22:29,000
Speaker 1: because I think you've literally spent the time searching. Well,

440
00:22:29,000 --> 00:22:32,320
Speaker 1: I've done. I did little research on this show. I

441
00:22:32,359 --> 00:22:35,960
Speaker 1: wasn't aware it's already in thirty five countries Farmer once

442
00:22:35,960 --> 00:22:38,440
Speaker 1: a Wife. Yes, it's already around the world, and so

443
00:22:38,480 --> 00:22:41,600
Speaker 1: it's sometimes a concept will either be created in America

444
00:22:41,720 --> 00:22:45,600
Speaker 1: taken around the world, like the Bachelor Bacherette. But sometimes

445
00:22:45,640 --> 00:22:48,720
Speaker 1: we get a foreign concept and international concept and bring

446
00:22:48,720 --> 00:22:50,560
Speaker 1: it to America. And so this has worked around the

447
00:22:50,560 --> 00:22:55,359
Speaker 1: world and now oddly it's just coming to America. You

448
00:22:55,359 --> 00:22:57,800
Speaker 1: would think a show like this would have started here

449
00:22:57,840 --> 00:23:00,760
Speaker 1: because we're you know, we're so into the heartland. It

450
00:23:00,840 --> 00:23:05,240
Speaker 1: always brings up that interesting fish out of water scenario

451
00:23:05,800 --> 00:23:09,480
Speaker 1: in dating, where you're you have the country boys and

452
00:23:09,520 --> 00:23:12,639
Speaker 1: then you have these women from La New York, you know,

453
00:23:12,720 --> 00:23:16,359
Speaker 1: cosmopolitan in their high heels, their beautiful white tennis shoes,

454
00:23:16,400 --> 00:23:19,359
Speaker 1: walking through the muck and the mud. And it brings

455
00:23:19,400 --> 00:23:23,679
Speaker 1: up an interesting point in relationships, is it? And do

456
00:23:23,760 --> 00:23:26,359
Speaker 1: you believe in birds of a feather stick together or

457
00:23:26,440 --> 00:23:28,920
Speaker 1: do you believe in opposite attract? Oh, we were just

458
00:23:28,960 --> 00:23:33,440
Speaker 1: talking about earlier. Yes, um, are you asking me? Yeah?

459
00:23:33,480 --> 00:23:35,959
Speaker 1: I mean, and I think I think maybe both are

460
00:23:36,000 --> 00:23:40,840
Speaker 1: applicable at times. Well, I think that you have to

461
00:23:40,840 --> 00:23:45,320
Speaker 1: find someone who challenges you, like someone who maybe and

462
00:23:45,400 --> 00:23:49,040
Speaker 1: maybe balances you out, has qualities other like you are

463
00:23:49,119 --> 00:23:55,440
Speaker 1: much calmer than I am, so I'm less dramatic, which

464
00:23:55,520 --> 00:23:59,719
Speaker 1: is great for us. But you know, I think, as

465
00:23:59,720 --> 00:24:01,800
Speaker 1: I said before, I think it's about finding someone who

466
00:24:01,800 --> 00:24:05,080
Speaker 1: likes to do the same things. Maybe your personalities balance

467
00:24:05,119 --> 00:24:06,560
Speaker 1: each other out, but you have to be in common

468
00:24:06,600 --> 00:24:08,879
Speaker 1: and how you like to live on, what you want

469
00:24:08,920 --> 00:24:10,360
Speaker 1: to get out of life, how you want to live

470
00:24:10,359 --> 00:24:12,600
Speaker 1: your life, like that's the big question for these people.

471
00:24:12,800 --> 00:24:14,720
Speaker 1: Do you want to really come live on a farm? Right?

472
00:24:14,720 --> 00:24:16,480
Speaker 1: And do you really want to be shoveling the ship

473
00:24:16,560 --> 00:24:20,119
Speaker 1: every day? Because this is real and I love that

474
00:24:20,119 --> 00:24:21,760
Speaker 1: they dropped them right in the middle of it. I

475
00:24:21,800 --> 00:24:24,320
Speaker 1: also kind of you know, another criticism of people on

476
00:24:24,400 --> 00:24:26,439
Speaker 1: reality dating shows has been are they just in it

477
00:24:26,440 --> 00:24:28,840
Speaker 1: for the fame? But these guys, I'm like, yeah, there's

478
00:24:28,840 --> 00:24:31,840
Speaker 1: no fame here and these are their real jobs. I mean,

479
00:24:31,880 --> 00:24:34,159
Speaker 1: one guy's like, I am a fourth generation farmer. This

480
00:24:34,200 --> 00:24:37,119
Speaker 1: is my family's farm. I was thinking. No part of

481
00:24:37,119 --> 00:24:38,720
Speaker 1: me was thinking, oh, these guys are just trying to

482
00:24:38,720 --> 00:24:41,720
Speaker 1: move to LA and get a career as an influencer.

483
00:24:41,840 --> 00:24:44,280
Speaker 1: Like I believe that this is what they're really doing.

484
00:24:44,480 --> 00:24:46,359
Speaker 1: There was one thing that stood out to me because

485
00:24:47,280 --> 00:24:50,520
Speaker 1: I felt like it was standing out to you, Oh

486
00:24:50,560 --> 00:24:53,280
Speaker 1: you're watching it, thinking of how I was watching. Yeah,

487
00:24:53,560 --> 00:24:56,000
Speaker 1: can you think of what that was that stood out

488
00:24:56,040 --> 00:24:58,240
Speaker 1: to me? Where I'm like, oh, she's she's gonna talk

489
00:24:58,240 --> 00:24:59,760
Speaker 1: about Oh it's a little but I wrote it down

490
00:24:59,800 --> 00:25:04,679
Speaker 1: to the stupid saying red, next thing say stupid, But

491
00:25:04,800 --> 00:25:08,240
Speaker 1: I didn't understand them. I think one guy said, did

492
00:25:08,240 --> 00:25:10,000
Speaker 1: you write it down. What were they What did they say? So?

493
00:25:10,280 --> 00:25:15,879
Speaker 1: One farmer said, Ashley's just cuter than a speckled pup

494
00:25:16,400 --> 00:25:19,720
Speaker 1: sleeping under the shade of a wagon wheel. Okay, now

495
00:25:19,760 --> 00:25:22,040
Speaker 1: say it is if you would actually say it, Ashes

496
00:25:22,040 --> 00:25:24,040
Speaker 1: just cut and a speckled pup sleeping under the shade

497
00:25:24,040 --> 00:25:29,080
Speaker 1: of a wagon wheel. This is when you're born in Dallas, Texas.

498
00:25:29,080 --> 00:25:32,000
Speaker 1: Side comes out. Chris will say things, you guys, and

499
00:25:32,400 --> 00:25:35,040
Speaker 1: I don't know what they mean. The one that gets

500
00:25:35,080 --> 00:25:38,040
Speaker 1: me every time is you will say, is if, like,

501
00:25:38,160 --> 00:25:41,520
Speaker 1: in all seriousness, I'm so hungry I could eat the

502
00:25:41,520 --> 00:25:43,800
Speaker 1: crotch out of a loafly and duck. I do say

503
00:25:43,800 --> 00:25:47,359
Speaker 1: that from time to time. What does that mean? I

504
00:25:47,440 --> 00:25:49,600
Speaker 1: don't Honestly, I don't know, and I don't know where

505
00:25:49,600 --> 00:25:55,040
Speaker 1: it came from. They were just sayings in my family. Um, yeah,

506
00:25:53,520 --> 00:25:59,080
Speaker 1: crotch happier in clam. There was another saying that I

507
00:25:59,440 --> 00:26:02,960
Speaker 1: have used before. He got it slightly wrong on the show.

508
00:26:03,119 --> 00:26:05,960
Speaker 1: More nervous than a cat and a roomfull of rocking chairs.

509
00:26:06,440 --> 00:26:09,240
Speaker 1: It is a I think the correct redneck saying is

510
00:26:09,440 --> 00:26:11,600
Speaker 1: more nervous than a long tailed cat and a room

511
00:26:11,640 --> 00:26:13,960
Speaker 1: full of rocking chairs. But that was Also, I just knew.

512
00:26:14,040 --> 00:26:15,520
Speaker 1: I knew that was going to stand out to you,

513
00:26:15,680 --> 00:26:18,480
Speaker 1: those redneck sayings. I didn't even know a long tailed

514
00:26:18,520 --> 00:26:21,480
Speaker 1: cat was a real thing. Farmer wants a wife. Yes,

515
00:26:21,680 --> 00:26:23,879
Speaker 1: I look it again, it felt very real to me.

516
00:26:24,280 --> 00:26:27,840
Speaker 1: I'll be interested to see what happens. The question also

517
00:26:27,880 --> 00:26:30,360
Speaker 1: for these farmers is like, on the very first episode,

518
00:26:31,160 --> 00:26:33,480
Speaker 1: one of the guys, one of the first women he

519
00:26:33,520 --> 00:26:36,960
Speaker 1: picks is the woman who says she's from New York

520
00:26:36,960 --> 00:26:41,080
Speaker 1: and she's never even touched a horse. And I'm thinking, Okay, well, buddy,

521
00:26:41,440 --> 00:26:44,480
Speaker 1: we see what your problem is. And that's also the question, right,

522
00:26:44,520 --> 00:26:48,119
Speaker 1: can we pick correctly for ourselves? Well, I'm in. I

523
00:26:48,160 --> 00:26:50,440
Speaker 1: will continue to watch. I'm curious to see how this

524
00:26:50,560 --> 00:26:54,320
Speaker 1: social experiment goes. And speaking of where we're gonna go,

525
00:26:55,000 --> 00:26:57,480
Speaker 1: we're going to take a break when we come back.

526
00:26:57,880 --> 00:27:01,480
Speaker 1: Speaking of Fox, Jenny McCarthy is going to join me

527
00:27:01,520 --> 00:27:04,440
Speaker 1: on the show today. She's on the panel of Mass Singer.

528
00:27:04,480 --> 00:27:08,240
Speaker 1: She has her own podcast, slash radio show. She always

529
00:27:08,320 --> 00:27:10,840
Speaker 1: has something great to say, and I can't wait to

530
00:27:10,880 --> 00:27:26,520
Speaker 1: dive in with Jenny McCarthy when we come back. Jenny McCarthy, Oh,

531
00:27:26,600 --> 00:27:30,000
Speaker 1: are you welcome to Welcome to the most dramatic podcast ever.

532
00:27:30,520 --> 00:27:33,960
Speaker 1: I could not wait. Can I tell you what sex dinner?

533
00:27:34,119 --> 00:27:38,800
Speaker 1: You calling in from the mood lighting behind you? The blue. Now,

534
00:27:39,440 --> 00:27:42,480
Speaker 1: there's two sex stands in this house, but this one

535
00:27:42,760 --> 00:27:47,320
Speaker 1: is for broadcasting. Okay, go great. What where are you?

536
00:27:48,440 --> 00:27:54,280
Speaker 1: I'm in my basement in which sat in Saint Charles, Illinois,

537
00:27:54,359 --> 00:27:57,000
Speaker 1: which is about an hour and a half outside of Chicago,

538
00:27:57,560 --> 00:28:00,679
Speaker 1: and if you will, close to pretty much rural Illinois.

539
00:28:01,560 --> 00:28:05,919
Speaker 1: You know, Laurenzima, my fiance is from Elgin. Oh my god,

540
00:28:05,960 --> 00:28:09,880
Speaker 1: that's like literally twenty minutes. You guys are neighbors. That's

541
00:28:09,920 --> 00:28:16,040
Speaker 1: why you're both phenomenal people, good Midwestern women. Congratulations on

542
00:28:16,760 --> 00:28:20,399
Speaker 1: another season of The mass Singer. Thank you very much.

543
00:28:20,880 --> 00:28:25,240
Speaker 1: I'm so lucky and blessed because this show is like,

544
00:28:25,720 --> 00:28:31,040
Speaker 1: it's finally something where I can feel proud well, and

545
00:28:31,520 --> 00:28:33,520
Speaker 1: it gets to the point and I don't think you

546
00:28:33,680 --> 00:28:36,560
Speaker 1: ever fully do this, but you can also relax a

547
00:28:36,640 --> 00:28:39,480
Speaker 1: little bit in that you know it's going to come back.

548
00:28:39,840 --> 00:28:41,960
Speaker 1: You know, I remember that tipping point of The Bachelor,

549
00:28:42,080 --> 00:28:44,640
Speaker 1: when you are in the middle of taping You're like,

550
00:28:44,680 --> 00:28:47,360
Speaker 1: I wonder if we'll do this again once you get

551
00:28:47,400 --> 00:28:49,680
Speaker 1: to the point where you can actually enjoy the fact

552
00:28:49,680 --> 00:28:51,680
Speaker 1: that you're already going to know it there are another

553
00:28:51,720 --> 00:28:55,600
Speaker 1: season's on the way. Is exciting, it's it's absolutely but

554
00:28:55,680 --> 00:28:58,080
Speaker 1: you know, in show business the show might go on,

555
00:28:58,400 --> 00:29:01,560
Speaker 1: but you might not. So you think our show is

556
00:29:01,560 --> 00:29:03,240
Speaker 1: going to go on without Jenny mccarthur, You're out of

557
00:29:03,280 --> 00:29:05,720
Speaker 1: your mind. Thank you, thank you, thank you. You know,

558
00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:10,680
Speaker 1: the biggest blessing has been people around the country coming

559
00:29:10,760 --> 00:29:12,920
Speaker 1: up to me and saying, wow, you know, for the

560
00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:16,560
Speaker 1: first time in a very long time. Sometimes ever, my

561
00:29:16,680 --> 00:29:18,720
Speaker 1: child has left their computer at their phone comes in

562
00:29:18,840 --> 00:29:21,360
Speaker 1: next to me to watch this show like we did

563
00:29:21,400 --> 00:29:23,800
Speaker 1: back in the old days. My son likes to say,

564
00:29:23,840 --> 00:29:26,080
Speaker 1: back in the eighteen hundred, think of a crazy concept

565
00:29:26,240 --> 00:29:28,480
Speaker 1: getting together as a family and watching just a fun show,

566
00:29:29,160 --> 00:29:31,800
Speaker 1: right right. And you know it's fun because you know

567
00:29:31,920 --> 00:29:33,840
Speaker 1: people are in mask and they might be a famous

568
00:29:33,880 --> 00:29:37,600
Speaker 1: young YouTuber that you know, us old folks might not know.

569
00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:40,240
Speaker 1: But then you know, we get Dick van Dyke, which

570
00:29:40,280 --> 00:29:44,600
Speaker 1: we cry, all of us adults know. Do you want

571
00:29:44,640 --> 00:29:47,720
Speaker 1: to know a secret that I do? Only Lauren Zema

572
00:29:47,800 --> 00:29:51,120
Speaker 1: knows this. Now I'm going to tell you. Okay, they

573
00:29:51,160 --> 00:29:53,000
Speaker 1: reached out to me to be on the mask thing

574
00:29:53,040 --> 00:29:58,280
Speaker 1: or this season. What, Yeah, well you didn't do it?

575
00:29:58,320 --> 00:30:00,800
Speaker 1: Why well, I don't know if we should spoil it

576
00:30:00,960 --> 00:30:03,760
Speaker 1: that I didn't do it, but um, because I might

577
00:30:03,760 --> 00:30:06,600
Speaker 1: be just taking off one of the animal heads. True,

578
00:30:06,680 --> 00:30:09,080
Speaker 1: you could be you could be no. I I they

579
00:30:09,080 --> 00:30:12,200
Speaker 1: approached me. It is the same casting director that that

580
00:30:12,400 --> 00:30:15,520
Speaker 1: used to cast Dancing with the Stars, and so I

581
00:30:15,600 --> 00:30:17,160
Speaker 1: knew her. I've known her for quite some time, and

582
00:30:17,240 --> 00:30:18,640
Speaker 1: she reached out to me and thought, hey, you know,

583
00:30:18,680 --> 00:30:21,080
Speaker 1: this might be a good fit for you in this

584
00:30:21,160 --> 00:30:26,480
Speaker 1: kind of comeback tour. And so that they approached me. Chris,

585
00:30:26,480 --> 00:30:29,680
Speaker 1: do you sing? I don't? I mean I do. I

586
00:30:29,760 --> 00:30:33,640
Speaker 1: sing loud, but not well. And that's that that was

587
00:30:33,720 --> 00:30:36,600
Speaker 1: leading me to the question. And obviously that's something that

588
00:30:36,640 --> 00:30:40,520
Speaker 1: the majority of celebrities will worry about, is Hey, I

589
00:30:40,560 --> 00:30:45,520
Speaker 1: suck at singing, and it's okay because the show is

590
00:30:45,520 --> 00:30:49,479
Speaker 1: an entertainment show. So it's people like Gronkowski was on

591
00:30:49,720 --> 00:30:51,760
Speaker 1: right and he made it like almost three rounds. I

592
00:30:51,760 --> 00:30:53,760
Speaker 1: think he didn't make it three rounds because he was

593
00:30:53,840 --> 00:30:56,640
Speaker 1: so magnanimous, he was so had so much fun. He

594
00:30:56,640 --> 00:30:58,600
Speaker 1: had the audience, you know, in the palm of his hands.

595
00:30:58,720 --> 00:31:01,360
Speaker 1: So it's really just a matter of if you're having fun,

596
00:31:01,440 --> 00:31:04,000
Speaker 1: then the viewers having fun. Are they tweaking the voice

597
00:31:04,040 --> 00:31:05,560
Speaker 1: at all? I mean we do, Do we get a

598
00:31:05,600 --> 00:31:11,400
Speaker 1: little auto tune? No? Because it is, after all a

599
00:31:11,480 --> 00:31:13,920
Speaker 1: game show, you know, son, You're right, there are Yeah,

600
00:31:14,080 --> 00:31:16,640
Speaker 1: there are standards and practices involved, and lawyers get involved,

601
00:31:16,640 --> 00:31:19,360
Speaker 1: and it has to be all on the up and up. Now.

602
00:31:19,440 --> 00:31:21,160
Speaker 1: Mind you, this is coming from someone that has to

603
00:31:21,280 --> 00:31:24,080
Speaker 1: mouth Happy Birthday at parties because I can't sing right.

604
00:31:24,480 --> 00:31:27,520
Speaker 1: But I will say the one thing that is different

605
00:31:27,960 --> 00:31:30,760
Speaker 1: as a panelist, as a judge, they don't really have

606
00:31:30,800 --> 00:31:34,959
Speaker 1: the speakers near us so the house can hear it.

607
00:31:35,200 --> 00:31:37,760
Speaker 1: So that's why a lot of times we're leaning in interesting. Yeah,

608
00:31:37,800 --> 00:31:40,200
Speaker 1: I get that with a little harder. That's why when

609
00:31:40,240 --> 00:31:42,200
Speaker 1: I watch it at home, I'm like, of course it's

610
00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:44,520
Speaker 1: so and so you can hear it a lot clearer.

611
00:31:44,840 --> 00:31:46,840
Speaker 1: But we take the beatings from you know, you guys

612
00:31:46,840 --> 00:31:49,280
Speaker 1: on Twitter. It's okay that that just makes for the fun.

613
00:31:49,320 --> 00:31:51,280
Speaker 1: But that happened to me a lot during the Bachelor,

614
00:31:51,360 --> 00:31:53,400
Speaker 1: is that, like you said, the speakers would be for

615
00:31:53,440 --> 00:31:57,120
Speaker 1: the crowd and oftentimes somebody was a low talker, and

616
00:31:57,160 --> 00:31:59,720
Speaker 1: I couldn't hear, and I would miss little jabs and

617
00:31:59,760 --> 00:32:02,280
Speaker 1: little things, And you don't realize when you're in that moment.

618
00:32:02,320 --> 00:32:04,440
Speaker 1: It's just hard to pick things up in that audience

619
00:32:04,520 --> 00:32:05,960
Speaker 1: is loud and there's so much going on, and the

620
00:32:05,960 --> 00:32:08,280
Speaker 1: producers are talking in your ear, So there there is

621
00:32:08,280 --> 00:32:12,360
Speaker 1: a lot. I have a behind the scenes question though, Yeah,

622
00:32:12,360 --> 00:32:15,160
Speaker 1: so I love the show. Yes, it would have been

623
00:32:15,200 --> 00:32:17,800
Speaker 1: better if it were me taking off a pandahead this

624
00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:21,720
Speaker 1: year and just watching your reaction. But when you guys

625
00:32:21,720 --> 00:32:25,480
Speaker 1: are guessing, when the panel is guessing, who's who? Who

626
00:32:25,560 --> 00:32:29,320
Speaker 1: is it? Is that just you guys riffing? Are their

627
00:32:29,360 --> 00:32:31,760
Speaker 1: producers telling you? Because it cracks me up when you're like,

628
00:32:32,680 --> 00:32:36,920
Speaker 1: I think it's Barack Obama. I think it's Beyonce, Now

629
00:32:37,080 --> 00:32:40,880
Speaker 1: it's Bono those Obama is not going to be on

630
00:32:40,880 --> 00:32:44,800
Speaker 1: this show. Listen, if the producers were giving us, it's

631
00:32:44,960 --> 00:32:48,520
Speaker 1: us reaching when we really don't know or can't figure

632
00:32:48,560 --> 00:32:50,360
Speaker 1: out someone like those. A lot of times, when like

633
00:32:50,400 --> 00:32:52,640
Speaker 1: I can't remember that actress's name, I don't want to

634
00:32:52,640 --> 00:32:54,800
Speaker 1: butcher it right. I don't want to be a meme forever,

635
00:32:55,040 --> 00:32:56,800
Speaker 1: so you'll pull out a name that no one that

636
00:32:56,880 --> 00:33:00,720
Speaker 1: everybody knows that everybody that everybody like, is it Charlie

637
00:33:00,840 --> 00:33:04,760
Speaker 1: Throne therein? Damn it totally? And well, you know, Ken

638
00:33:04,840 --> 00:33:07,240
Speaker 1: Jong's got this whole thing now where he's just terrible

639
00:33:07,280 --> 00:33:09,560
Speaker 1: and it's works. You know, Well that's the thing. If

640
00:33:09,600 --> 00:33:11,520
Speaker 1: you're going to be so bad, you got to be consistent.

641
00:33:11,560 --> 00:33:14,240
Speaker 1: He can get away with it one hundred percent. Now,

642
00:33:14,280 --> 00:33:17,400
Speaker 1: mind you, I am very competitive, even though it's a

643
00:33:17,400 --> 00:33:21,040
Speaker 1: fluffy game show. I still like compete to get the

644
00:33:21,080 --> 00:33:24,120
Speaker 1: most right, Like we had golden ears that were given away, yes,

645
00:33:25,000 --> 00:33:27,000
Speaker 1: and I was like, what we're going to compete is

646
00:33:27,040 --> 00:33:29,600
Speaker 1: due who gets them? I mean, I'm literally out of

647
00:33:29,600 --> 00:33:31,360
Speaker 1: my mind. Are there any side bets going on with

648
00:33:31,400 --> 00:33:34,800
Speaker 1: the judges? No? They I think they've given up pretty

649
00:33:34,840 --> 00:33:38,080
Speaker 1: much because I'm really that good. You're just dominating. Well,

650
00:33:38,080 --> 00:33:41,400
Speaker 1: this is the thing. I'm sure those bozo's only read

651
00:33:41,440 --> 00:33:44,960
Speaker 1: Google alerts about themselves, where as me, I'm a pop

652
00:33:45,000 --> 00:33:48,680
Speaker 1: culture you know, the expert. I you know, just having

653
00:33:48,680 --> 00:33:51,240
Speaker 1: to do radio for seven years doing celebrity news, you

654
00:33:51,320 --> 00:33:54,040
Speaker 1: learn about everyone's dirt. So when there's clue packages going on,

655
00:33:54,520 --> 00:33:56,480
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, I know, who got a divorce recently,

656
00:33:56,560 --> 00:33:58,840
Speaker 1: or I know who went through that traumatic thing. You

657
00:33:58,880 --> 00:34:01,160
Speaker 1: pick up on all those things, whereas they really only

658
00:34:01,200 --> 00:34:03,160
Speaker 1: know about themselves, which I like to make fun of

659
00:34:03,160 --> 00:34:05,240
Speaker 1: themselves for them. Speaking of your show, that's the last

660
00:34:05,240 --> 00:34:06,960
Speaker 1: time I saw you. I was trying to think the

661
00:34:07,040 --> 00:34:09,359
Speaker 1: last time we were together, and it was at your

662
00:34:09,360 --> 00:34:12,520
Speaker 1: show in New York at the XM Studios. It's been

663
00:34:12,520 --> 00:34:14,800
Speaker 1: a while since I've seen you pre COVID all those

664
00:34:15,280 --> 00:34:18,719
Speaker 1: crazy I know, so it's been a while, so it

665
00:34:18,719 --> 00:34:23,000
Speaker 1: almost seems like a blurry dream those years doesn't hit

666
00:34:23,320 --> 00:34:26,160
Speaker 1: missing you, and I always just speak so highly of

667
00:34:26,160 --> 00:34:28,759
Speaker 1: what an amazing person you have always been, and you're

668
00:34:28,760 --> 00:34:32,080
Speaker 1: always such a good supporter. I am gonna I'm gonna

669
00:34:32,239 --> 00:34:34,200
Speaker 1: do a little titbit of about you Tube for a second,

670
00:34:34,280 --> 00:34:37,840
Speaker 1: which was Chris came on on the view and I

671
00:34:37,840 --> 00:34:40,240
Speaker 1: think you're on for a whole week. I was, Yeah,

672
00:34:39,600 --> 00:34:41,640
Speaker 1: my daughter and I came out, but yeah, I co

673
00:34:41,719 --> 00:34:44,319
Speaker 1: hosted for a week for a week, and he was

674
00:34:44,480 --> 00:34:47,399
Speaker 1: so incredible. Of course, it's very good at what he does.

675
00:34:47,800 --> 00:34:49,879
Speaker 1: But we thought me and Cherry were like, oh my god,

676
00:34:49,920 --> 00:34:51,400
Speaker 1: we love him. We need to have him as the

677
00:34:51,480 --> 00:34:54,879
Speaker 1: first male co host on the view. So we went

678
00:34:54,960 --> 00:34:56,879
Speaker 1: to bat Me and Cherry were like, we do need

679
00:34:56,880 --> 00:34:59,000
Speaker 1: the first male calls. It's gotta be Chris. Gotta be Chris.

680
00:34:59,040 --> 00:35:01,799
Speaker 1: He's amazing and you we were so freaking good. It

681
00:35:01,840 --> 00:35:04,400
Speaker 1: was so great to have this male perspective. But you

682
00:35:04,480 --> 00:35:07,640
Speaker 1: did it so well, and I just feel like, now

683
00:35:07,719 --> 00:35:09,759
Speaker 1: looking back, it would have been the meanest thing. If

684
00:35:09,800 --> 00:35:12,200
Speaker 1: I've got you right, that would have been a special

685
00:35:12,280 --> 00:35:13,800
Speaker 1: kind of hell. You introduced me too. But you know

686
00:35:13,840 --> 00:35:17,280
Speaker 1: what's funny. I I came out there because so Barbara

687
00:35:17,360 --> 00:35:20,280
Speaker 1: Walters had this kind of go to executive producer Bill Getty,

688
00:35:20,719 --> 00:35:22,680
Speaker 1: and you know Bill. So Bill kind of ran the

689
00:35:22,760 --> 00:35:24,600
Speaker 1: view and he was the behind the scenes guy, and

690
00:35:24,880 --> 00:35:27,080
Speaker 1: then Barbara was there. So Barbara brought me in that

691
00:35:27,120 --> 00:35:30,880
Speaker 1: week to co host with you, thinking they were possibly

692
00:35:30,880 --> 00:35:32,920
Speaker 1: going to add a guy and that I might be

693
00:35:33,040 --> 00:35:35,719
Speaker 1: that person, and say they brought me in for the

694
00:35:35,719 --> 00:35:38,040
Speaker 1: week to kind of just try it out. And so

695
00:35:38,400 --> 00:35:41,640
Speaker 1: that actually was a topic of discussion for a little

696
00:35:41,640 --> 00:35:44,440
Speaker 1: time with Barbara and with Bill and this obviously before

697
00:35:44,440 --> 00:35:47,600
Speaker 1: Barbara left. It was so fun and it was fun

698
00:35:47,640 --> 00:35:50,040
Speaker 1: back then, you know, it really was fun back then. Yeah,

699
00:35:50,120 --> 00:35:55,440
Speaker 1: things got contentious but it remained fun and level headed exactly. Well.

700
00:35:55,440 --> 00:35:57,680
Speaker 1: The interesting thing is behind the scenes on that is

701
00:35:57,760 --> 00:36:00,239
Speaker 1: you know, when they hired me, they said, you know,

702
00:36:00,480 --> 00:36:02,600
Speaker 1: it was a little too polarizing this show. We want

703
00:36:02,600 --> 00:36:05,359
Speaker 1: to bring a pop culture person to make it light

704
00:36:05,400 --> 00:36:08,200
Speaker 1: and fluffy. Right, there's no one fluffier than myself. I

705
00:36:08,200 --> 00:36:10,239
Speaker 1: could like to fluff you are fluffy, you know, nothing

706
00:36:10,320 --> 00:36:15,640
Speaker 1: too serious and um. Within the first week of you know,

707
00:36:15,719 --> 00:36:21,360
Speaker 1: bring some pop cultures fun, Barbara was like, I miss fighting.

708
00:36:21,400 --> 00:36:24,400
Speaker 1: I missed the debate of politics, and they brought it

709
00:36:24,400 --> 00:36:26,319
Speaker 1: back in and I was After a week, I was like,

710
00:36:26,760 --> 00:36:29,560
Speaker 1: oh no, this is not it is not for me. Yeah,

711
00:36:29,600 --> 00:36:31,480
Speaker 1: this is not. I'm out the best thing you ever did.

712
00:36:32,440 --> 00:36:33,960
Speaker 1: Oh my god. It's you know, it's like I'm one

713
00:36:33,960 --> 00:36:35,719
Speaker 1: of those people that you know, um, you ever have

714
00:36:35,840 --> 00:36:38,160
Speaker 1: those like drunk relatives at the holidays and you kind

715
00:36:38,160 --> 00:36:44,880
Speaker 1: of get I have, like, you know, trauma. Being in

716
00:36:44,880 --> 00:36:48,319
Speaker 1: an Irish Catholic family from Chicago, there's always somebody that

717
00:36:48,320 --> 00:36:51,160
Speaker 1: you're just like and that's what you know, that kind

718
00:36:51,200 --> 00:36:52,920
Speaker 1: of fighting always made me feel like I have a

719
00:36:52,960 --> 00:36:56,080
Speaker 1: hard time watching shows that are you know, that kind

720
00:36:56,080 --> 00:36:59,480
Speaker 1: of brutal. But you watched and you one thing that

721
00:36:59,560 --> 00:37:01,920
Speaker 1: we had common. You watched The Bachelor and Bacherette back

722
00:37:01,920 --> 00:37:05,279
Speaker 1: in the day, and you were into that show, and

723
00:37:05,400 --> 00:37:08,879
Speaker 1: that those shows can give you that uncomfortable feeling. There's

724
00:37:08,920 --> 00:37:11,319
Speaker 1: that new show on Fox, Farmer Wants a Wife. I

725
00:37:11,360 --> 00:37:13,520
Speaker 1: know you love it. I do too, and I know

726
00:37:13,560 --> 00:37:17,080
Speaker 1: you watched it. There are those uncomfortable moments, but it's

727
00:37:17,719 --> 00:37:19,759
Speaker 1: somehow all out of love and so you don't feel

728
00:37:19,760 --> 00:37:23,759
Speaker 1: so bad. That is absolutely correct, you know. And it's

729
00:37:23,760 --> 00:37:29,720
Speaker 1: also you have a little bit of compassion for looking

730
00:37:29,760 --> 00:37:33,480
Speaker 1: at our youths, you know, looking at the younger generation

731
00:37:33,520 --> 00:37:35,440
Speaker 1: of like having to go through it, like you know,

732
00:37:36,120 --> 00:37:39,680
Speaker 1: that's easier than someone that's kind of being really vicious

733
00:37:39,680 --> 00:37:41,600
Speaker 1: and mean. And you got you got these farmers. This

734
00:37:41,680 --> 00:37:44,520
Speaker 1: guy's poor guys are like in the outskirts of nowhere,

735
00:37:45,040 --> 00:37:47,239
Speaker 1: and these women are coming in from Ellie'd be like you,

736
00:37:48,160 --> 00:37:52,000
Speaker 1: Jenny McCarthy rolling up to a ranch in her heels

737
00:37:52,040 --> 00:37:54,560
Speaker 1: like scoop and poop and bail and hay. I mean,

738
00:37:54,640 --> 00:37:58,440
Speaker 1: good luck. And guess what that farmer would have got

739
00:37:58,480 --> 00:38:01,759
Speaker 1: me because we have a ranch where we do all

740
00:38:01,760 --> 00:38:04,279
Speaker 1: that kind of stuff, and not necessarily we don't have

741
00:38:04,320 --> 00:38:07,960
Speaker 1: animals on it yet, but it's we love it. Like

742
00:38:08,120 --> 00:38:10,880
Speaker 1: the reason why I left La were two reasons. I

743
00:38:10,920 --> 00:38:13,120
Speaker 1: wanted my son to not be raised by a bunch

744
00:38:13,120 --> 00:38:15,600
Speaker 1: of crazy people in LA. There's just too much, you know,

745
00:38:15,640 --> 00:38:20,040
Speaker 1: it's chaotic. But also I was almost forty and still

746
00:38:20,080 --> 00:38:23,640
Speaker 1: looking for love, and I was like, you know, in

747
00:38:23,840 --> 00:38:27,920
Speaker 1: la Um, I just there were so many guys that

748
00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:31,640
Speaker 1: either if you're if you're forty in LA, you have

749
00:38:31,680 --> 00:38:34,640
Speaker 1: to date sixty because the forty year olds can date twenty. Right,

750
00:38:35,000 --> 00:38:37,080
Speaker 1: So I'm like, I don't want to slow down and

751
00:38:37,120 --> 00:38:39,960
Speaker 1: watch a reel of fortune, yet you know I want to.

752
00:38:40,000 --> 00:38:44,400
Speaker 1: I have so much in me still and the down

753
00:38:44,400 --> 00:38:49,719
Speaker 1: to earth feelings I got from Midwest guys. I'm like,

754
00:38:49,760 --> 00:38:51,080
Speaker 1: you know what, I'm going to go back home and

755
00:38:51,120 --> 00:38:53,520
Speaker 1: see if I can find somebody back there. So there

756
00:38:53,640 --> 00:38:56,120
Speaker 1: is something with this show that I feel like I

757
00:38:56,280 --> 00:39:00,239
Speaker 1: was trending way before the show, whereas like there's a

758
00:39:00,280 --> 00:39:02,640
Speaker 1: lot of people that are leaving the big s right,

759
00:39:02,840 --> 00:39:05,600
Speaker 1: you know, looking for love in and moving to these

760
00:39:05,640 --> 00:39:08,400
Speaker 1: world places. Well, the show has had such success, and

761
00:39:08,520 --> 00:39:10,640
Speaker 1: you know, in speaking of your success, and I love

762
00:39:10,719 --> 00:39:13,520
Speaker 1: the fact that you made a concerted effort to find love.

763
00:39:13,560 --> 00:39:17,440
Speaker 1: And that's and if you think, okay, this is v

764
00:39:17,600 --> 00:39:21,680
Speaker 1: Ginnie McCarthy, sex symbol, Playmate of the Year and she

765
00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:25,560
Speaker 1: left to make a real effort to find love. That

766
00:39:25,640 --> 00:39:29,000
Speaker 1: should tell everybody something that you make it a priority.

767
00:39:29,120 --> 00:39:31,920
Speaker 1: That's right, You absolutely make a priority. Not everyone could

768
00:39:31,960 --> 00:39:33,839
Speaker 1: pick up and leave, you know, their jobs, but I

769
00:39:33,840 --> 00:39:35,880
Speaker 1: mean I didn't have a job either. My agent was like,

770
00:39:36,160 --> 00:39:38,400
Speaker 1: you're what you're leaving, but you can make it a

771
00:39:38,400 --> 00:39:41,080
Speaker 1: priority wherever you are. I don't think you have to leave.

772
00:39:41,120 --> 00:39:44,520
Speaker 1: But to your point, to your credit, I love that.

773
00:39:44,560 --> 00:39:47,719
Speaker 1: And when you found Donnie, and this is what I'm

774
00:39:47,760 --> 00:39:50,680
Speaker 1: going to say, an underrated love story. The two of

775
00:39:50,719 --> 00:39:55,080
Speaker 1: you just man, y'all just fit. I love I love

776
00:39:55,080 --> 00:39:58,560
Speaker 1: you guys together, and I love what y'all have done.

777
00:39:58,560 --> 00:40:00,840
Speaker 1: And it's not that you're you know, you're prior relationships

778
00:40:00,880 --> 00:40:04,000
Speaker 1: were pretty public and you thought, okay, you know, Jenny

779
00:40:04,040 --> 00:40:07,160
Speaker 1: and Jim could work. They're cute. I see it. And

780
00:40:07,200 --> 00:40:09,680
Speaker 1: then when you see you and Donnie, you're like, oh,

781
00:40:09,719 --> 00:40:15,399
Speaker 1: that that works totally. You know, it's every day. We

782
00:40:15,480 --> 00:40:18,920
Speaker 1: still get butterflies. We talk about it, we text and

783
00:40:19,000 --> 00:40:21,440
Speaker 1: FaceTime at least, look, he just texts me right now,

784
00:40:21,480 --> 00:40:25,439
Speaker 1: I love you. It's constant. We FaceTime sleep together like

785
00:40:25,560 --> 00:40:28,600
Speaker 1: he's He literally reminds me of me. If there's such

786
00:40:28,680 --> 00:40:32,920
Speaker 1: thing as mirrors in relationships. Even my family and my

787
00:40:32,920 --> 00:40:35,040
Speaker 1: friends are like, oh my god. And it you know,

788
00:40:35,120 --> 00:40:39,600
Speaker 1: it took a long time. I remember putting it out

789
00:40:39,680 --> 00:40:42,080
Speaker 1: there to the universe saying, you know, okay, I'm done

790
00:40:42,640 --> 00:40:46,520
Speaker 1: having to cook anybody like. I don't want anyone medium, rareer.

791
00:40:46,560 --> 00:40:48,520
Speaker 1: I want them well done. They learn their lessons like

792
00:40:49,080 --> 00:40:52,640
Speaker 1: I've done the work here now. So the universe bring

793
00:40:52,760 --> 00:40:56,000
Speaker 1: me the level of vibration that I'm at because I

794
00:40:56,160 --> 00:40:58,120
Speaker 1: kept bringing guys in that I have to pull up

795
00:40:58,120 --> 00:41:01,880
Speaker 1: to my vibration I can make. I'm like I just

796
00:41:02,160 --> 00:41:15,920
Speaker 1: and he turned out to be everything. Speaking of farmer

797
00:41:15,960 --> 00:41:18,160
Speaker 1: once a wife, because those ladies are making a big

798
00:41:18,160 --> 00:41:21,239
Speaker 1: commitment to move. Donnie did that for you, right, he

799
00:41:21,360 --> 00:41:25,000
Speaker 1: moved to Chicago. I never I And by the way,

800
00:41:25,080 --> 00:41:27,399
Speaker 1: Chicago doesn't seem like that bad. But when you say

801
00:41:27,440 --> 00:41:30,160
Speaker 1: Saint Charles, Illinois, which is you know, we've got a

802
00:41:30,200 --> 00:41:34,960
Speaker 1: main street. It's mom and pop stores. He's an E's

803
00:41:35,000 --> 00:41:37,560
Speaker 1: Coast guy. He's a city guy. But when he came here.

804
00:41:37,600 --> 00:41:39,799
Speaker 1: He said, you know what, I've always fell in love

805
00:41:39,840 --> 00:41:43,760
Speaker 1: with the main street small town and he's like, Illinois

806
00:41:43,840 --> 00:41:46,720
Speaker 1: corn fields are different than you know, other kind of rulers,

807
00:41:46,760 --> 00:41:49,799
Speaker 1: but just corn everywhere. But he fell in love. He

808
00:41:49,920 --> 00:41:51,839
Speaker 1: literally I said, do you ever want to move? He said,

809
00:41:52,160 --> 00:41:56,319
Speaker 1: I can never. There's this there's this love. There's this

810
00:41:56,440 --> 00:41:59,200
Speaker 1: down to earth sensibility. You know what it is. We

811
00:41:59,280 --> 00:42:01,640
Speaker 1: live our life here. We don't work our life away.

812
00:42:01,680 --> 00:42:05,440
Speaker 1: We live our life interesting. It's so wonderful, feel like

813
00:42:05,760 --> 00:42:08,160
Speaker 1: what I get from the show. When I watched it too,

814
00:42:08,200 --> 00:42:11,280
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, just it. I have a feeling

815
00:42:11,320 --> 00:42:13,239
Speaker 1: those are going to be a lot of girls are

816
00:42:13,239 --> 00:42:15,520
Speaker 1: going to want to date farmers after this. Well, and

817
00:42:15,600 --> 00:42:19,680
Speaker 1: I to your point, I think it's important for the

818
00:42:19,880 --> 00:42:22,160
Speaker 1: woman or you know, I guess there's four. If they

819
00:42:22,239 --> 00:42:26,040
Speaker 1: end up with four, that will not be the square

820
00:42:26,040 --> 00:42:28,479
Speaker 1: peg in a round hole. Hopefully these farmers will see,

821
00:42:28,760 --> 00:42:30,719
Speaker 1: don't just get a city girl to get a city girl.

822
00:42:31,280 --> 00:42:33,279
Speaker 1: It's a girl that you don't need to, as you

823
00:42:33,280 --> 00:42:37,279
Speaker 1: put it, bake any further. Like she's actually willing and

824
00:42:37,320 --> 00:42:39,840
Speaker 1: ready and is a mirror image and ready to blend

825
00:42:39,880 --> 00:42:42,799
Speaker 1: into this life because you can get the opposite of that,

826
00:42:42,960 --> 00:42:46,720
Speaker 1: and it won't work. You know, it won't work real

827
00:42:46,800 --> 00:42:50,160
Speaker 1: quick because when you it's kind of like if you've

828
00:42:50,200 --> 00:42:52,920
Speaker 1: ever gone on vacation thinking it will destress your mind

829
00:42:53,000 --> 00:42:55,439
Speaker 1: and you realize, oh, my mind came with me, right,

830
00:42:55,880 --> 00:43:01,160
Speaker 1: you know, going to a small rural city, your mind

831
00:43:01,200 --> 00:43:04,080
Speaker 1: actually is louder. So if you haven't done the work

832
00:43:04,120 --> 00:43:07,680
Speaker 1: on yourself, those farmers are going to see a real

833
00:43:07,880 --> 00:43:11,279
Speaker 1: quick that they picked, you know, looks over love if

834
00:43:11,280 --> 00:43:15,719
Speaker 1: they don't pick right. You're also an amazing parent. And

835
00:43:16,320 --> 00:43:19,080
Speaker 1: lately you have been talking about twenty year old and

836
00:43:19,160 --> 00:43:21,239
Speaker 1: we both our kids are about the same age. I

837
00:43:21,280 --> 00:43:23,760
Speaker 1: have a twenty one year old nineteen year old Evans

838
00:43:23,800 --> 00:43:28,680
Speaker 1: what twenty twenty? Yeah, twenty it's crazy. And he's venturing

839
00:43:28,719 --> 00:43:32,560
Speaker 1: off into the world of music only one time so far,

840
00:43:32,640 --> 00:43:37,120
Speaker 1: but it is for love. For what he loves music

841
00:43:37,320 --> 00:43:43,080
Speaker 1: or he's using music to find love. He fell in love. Well,

842
00:43:43,239 --> 00:43:45,080
Speaker 1: this is the story and I'll make it quick. Yes,

843
00:43:45,280 --> 00:43:49,080
Speaker 1: his heart got broken by his girlfriend. His girlfriend him,

844
00:43:49,440 --> 00:43:53,319
Speaker 1: and so he was devastated and put and he's such

845
00:43:53,320 --> 00:43:57,959
Speaker 1: a big hearted, loving teddy bear. He mourned and put

846
00:43:58,000 --> 00:44:00,800
Speaker 1: all of his love into this love for his crush.

847
00:44:00,880 --> 00:44:04,120
Speaker 1: They's head Forever, which is Selena Gomez, and he wrote

848
00:44:04,120 --> 00:44:06,879
Speaker 1: these beautiful lyrics and he called me in the room

849
00:44:06,920 --> 00:44:08,160
Speaker 1: and he said, will you take a look at this

850
00:44:08,200 --> 00:44:10,719
Speaker 1: love song I wrote for Selena Gomez? And I'm like, oh,

851
00:44:11,440 --> 00:44:13,640
Speaker 1: that's those are nice little words. I love that. That

852
00:44:13,760 --> 00:44:15,960
Speaker 1: was very sweet, patted on the head and left. The

853
00:44:16,040 --> 00:44:18,880
Speaker 1: next thing I know, Johnny said, oh, I'm gonna have

854
00:44:18,960 --> 00:44:22,280
Speaker 1: him like sing to this song. And I'm like, really

855
00:44:22,960 --> 00:44:28,440
Speaker 1: he sings like me though, and he's like, He's like,

856
00:44:28,480 --> 00:44:31,600
Speaker 1: he sounds really good and those the words are sweet.

857
00:44:31,800 --> 00:44:34,319
Speaker 1: And the next thing I know, my ex husband who

858
00:44:34,360 --> 00:44:37,520
Speaker 1: shoots music videos, like, let me put a music video together.

859
00:44:38,160 --> 00:44:42,360
Speaker 1: And while we've got um, he posted his first song

860
00:44:42,480 --> 00:44:46,680
Speaker 1: called um it Doesn't Matter under Evan Asher, so if

861
00:44:46,719 --> 00:44:49,040
Speaker 1: you want to check it out. But Selena Gomez hasn't

862
00:44:49,040 --> 00:44:51,760
Speaker 1: contacted him yet, this is a great story to follow

863
00:44:51,840 --> 00:44:56,640
Speaker 1: up on. Oh God, and every single every two hours

864
00:44:56,680 --> 00:45:00,359
Speaker 1: he asked me if I've heard from Selena Gomez. That's funny. Well,

865
00:45:00,480 --> 00:45:03,040
Speaker 1: so I guess it begs the question then, because I

866
00:45:03,040 --> 00:45:05,600
Speaker 1: am in this camp too with my kids of how

867
00:45:05,640 --> 00:45:08,280
Speaker 1: far you go? Right? You want to help your kids.

868
00:45:08,360 --> 00:45:11,560
Speaker 1: You want to push their dreams and goals and all

869
00:45:11,600 --> 00:45:14,680
Speaker 1: those things, but there's a point where you could, you know,

870
00:45:14,719 --> 00:45:17,400
Speaker 1: get diminishing returns and you can almost hurt them at times.

871
00:45:17,719 --> 00:45:20,920
Speaker 1: And you know, Donnie obviously very well connected the music world.

872
00:45:21,280 --> 00:45:23,640
Speaker 1: You are connected in the media and so and it

873
00:45:23,680 --> 00:45:25,839
Speaker 1: sounds like your ex husband has jumped in. So that's

874
00:45:25,840 --> 00:45:28,319
Speaker 1: a lot you have to try and weigh. That was

875
00:45:28,320 --> 00:45:31,799
Speaker 1: that difficult for you, guys? No, because I know that

876
00:45:32,040 --> 00:45:36,640
Speaker 1: music isn't necessarily his passion. He loves He's in college

877
00:45:36,719 --> 00:45:39,799
Speaker 1: right now for videography. He does really good job with

878
00:45:40,040 --> 00:45:43,560
Speaker 1: his YouTube channel, Gaming USA, and he films. He loves

879
00:45:43,560 --> 00:45:48,319
Speaker 1: filming that whenever I see a spark in him, I

880
00:45:48,400 --> 00:45:51,799
Speaker 1: will put everything I've got behind it. Yeah, this was

881
00:45:51,880 --> 00:45:56,560
Speaker 1: a family affair to help heal someone's heart. You know,

882
00:45:56,800 --> 00:45:59,600
Speaker 1: this is this is more or less why we all

883
00:45:59,640 --> 00:46:02,839
Speaker 1: came to there's a family because my stepson, his stepbrother.

884
00:46:03,239 --> 00:46:06,400
Speaker 1: I wrote the melody, the music to it, and so

885
00:46:06,440 --> 00:46:08,080
Speaker 1: it was a family affair of just you know, making

886
00:46:08,080 --> 00:46:10,919
Speaker 1: even feel better and wanting him to send a song

887
00:46:10,960 --> 00:46:13,920
Speaker 1: to his crush. This is like the new age dysfunctional

888
00:46:14,000 --> 00:46:18,600
Speaker 1: Partridge family completely And you know, It takes a lot

889
00:46:18,640 --> 00:46:21,279
Speaker 1: for me not to just like call her agent or

890
00:46:21,320 --> 00:46:24,600
Speaker 1: publicist to say, how don't you just so it's you know,

891
00:46:24,640 --> 00:46:29,400
Speaker 1: I'm not like pounding social media yet. Yeah, but I'm like,

892
00:46:29,480 --> 00:46:31,719
Speaker 1: let's just give it a few weeks of let's give

893
00:46:31,760 --> 00:46:33,520
Speaker 1: it like a good month and see if you can

894
00:46:33,600 --> 00:46:36,160
Speaker 1: just do this and reach out and you know, maybe

895
00:46:36,160 --> 00:46:37,879
Speaker 1: you'll get a follow or maybe you'll just get a heart.

896
00:46:37,960 --> 00:46:40,120
Speaker 1: It sounds like you are in a wonderful place in life.

897
00:46:41,600 --> 00:46:46,640
Speaker 1: You just seem like you have this balance. This even

898
00:46:46,680 --> 00:46:50,440
Speaker 1: this about you is that accurate? That is one hundred

899
00:46:50,480 --> 00:46:53,319
Speaker 1: percent accurate. I'm so grateful every day. I'm like, I'm

900
00:46:53,360 --> 00:46:56,800
Speaker 1: so grateful. I love I love myself, I love my family.

901
00:46:56,840 --> 00:46:59,000
Speaker 1: I'm grateful for health, I'm grateful for my job. It's

902
00:46:59,040 --> 00:47:01,360
Speaker 1: just I'm really at that place. And it took a

903
00:47:01,360 --> 00:47:03,520
Speaker 1: lot of work because there's been a lot of a

904
00:47:03,520 --> 00:47:06,239
Speaker 1: lot of crap in my life that I have put

905
00:47:06,360 --> 00:47:08,640
Speaker 1: up with. But it's you know, it's not how you

906
00:47:08,640 --> 00:47:10,279
Speaker 1: get knocked down, it's how you get up. And I

907
00:47:10,440 --> 00:47:12,440
Speaker 1: just keep getting up. Yeah, I was tell my kids,

908
00:47:12,480 --> 00:47:15,120
Speaker 1: it's a roller coaster ride. It's not just this simple

909
00:47:15,320 --> 00:47:19,320
Speaker 1: straight ascent that life doesn't treat you like that. It's true,

910
00:47:19,440 --> 00:47:21,920
Speaker 1: and you know, and you get your feelings hurt. And

911
00:47:22,120 --> 00:47:24,279
Speaker 1: the thing is, you don't run away and quit. You

912
00:47:24,360 --> 00:47:26,359
Speaker 1: just get up and keep going. And I felt like

913
00:47:27,320 --> 00:47:29,799
Speaker 1: I'm always going to be a juggernaut. You know, I'm

914
00:47:29,840 --> 00:47:31,920
Speaker 1: just gonna just keep Oh you don't want me, I'm

915
00:47:31,920 --> 00:47:33,879
Speaker 1: going I'm find someone that does. I'm gonna keep going.

916
00:47:33,960 --> 00:47:36,520
Speaker 1: You know, it's been thirty years in this business. You

917
00:47:36,560 --> 00:47:40,000
Speaker 1: know when I've read numerous Oh, her fifteen minutes are up,

918
00:47:40,040 --> 00:47:42,480
Speaker 1: her fifteen minutes are up. Well, I'm still here. I'm

919
00:47:42,480 --> 00:47:48,840
Speaker 1: not betting against you, thanks Chriss. I'm still leading at Wahlburger's.

920
00:47:48,920 --> 00:47:51,720
Speaker 1: Damn it. By the way, I when I was shooting

921
00:47:51,719 --> 00:47:53,840
Speaker 1: Who Wants to Be a Millionaire? In Vegas? I would

922
00:47:54,239 --> 00:47:56,319
Speaker 1: we would shoot. I would stay at Caesar's. But it's

923
00:47:56,360 --> 00:47:58,640
Speaker 1: behind it's actually kind of in front of balleys, and

924
00:47:58,800 --> 00:48:01,799
Speaker 1: we've shot behind ballot, we shoot into the night. We'd

925
00:48:01,800 --> 00:48:04,399
Speaker 1: get done inevitably on our way home, it's like, well,

926
00:48:04,400 --> 00:48:07,879
Speaker 1: there's Wallburgers. We'd stop grab a burger. And by the way,

927
00:48:07,960 --> 00:48:10,359
Speaker 1: it's a good burger. It's a good burg I'm gonna

928
00:48:10,360 --> 00:48:14,720
Speaker 1: give it a little promo Wallburgers. Yeah, it's a good burger.

929
00:48:14,800 --> 00:48:17,600
Speaker 1: Tell Donnie, I'm giving. I'm a plug. I totally will to.

930
00:48:17,800 --> 00:48:19,360
Speaker 1: Speaking of plugs, I do want to ask you a

931
00:48:19,440 --> 00:48:22,040
Speaker 1: question about the Farmer Show, Jennifer. What do you think

932
00:48:22,080 --> 00:48:25,520
Speaker 1: of her as a host? I spoke to Jennifer, and uh,

933
00:48:25,960 --> 00:48:27,400
Speaker 1: she's going to be on one of the shows this

934
00:48:27,440 --> 00:48:31,439
Speaker 1: week as well. She was great, I was, I thought,

935
00:48:31,480 --> 00:48:33,920
Speaker 1: and I told her this, it's easy. It's easy to

936
00:48:34,000 --> 00:48:36,040
Speaker 1: look like a fish out of water in those moments

937
00:48:37,000 --> 00:48:38,719
Speaker 1: you get the country singer. I get it, it's a

938
00:48:38,760 --> 00:48:41,600
Speaker 1: country show, but it's not that simple to blend in.

939
00:48:41,640 --> 00:48:43,480
Speaker 1: I think she did a great job. I told her,

940
00:48:43,760 --> 00:48:46,719
Speaker 1: I want more nettles. They didn't give me enough. They

941
00:48:46,760 --> 00:48:50,200
Speaker 1: didn't give me enough. She came on screen, so she is,

942
00:48:50,239 --> 00:48:53,480
Speaker 1: by the way, lovable, likable, all those things. But sometimes

943
00:48:53,600 --> 00:48:56,960
Speaker 1: you don't read that on screen. Yeah, you absolutely do.

944
00:48:57,080 --> 00:48:59,919
Speaker 1: Like the fact everyone was excited to see her. I mean,

945
00:49:00,080 --> 00:49:02,480
Speaker 1: she's one of those people. It's like, I'd love to

946
00:49:02,480 --> 00:49:05,680
Speaker 1: meet someone that doesn't love Jennifer Nows because because then

947
00:49:05,680 --> 00:49:07,840
Speaker 1: she's just someone who hates puppies. I mean, how do

948
00:49:07,840 --> 00:49:10,319
Speaker 1: you not trite Jennifer Neddles. She was She was great

949
00:49:10,320 --> 00:49:12,200
Speaker 1: and she is lovely. She's talented as can be. But

950
00:49:12,239 --> 00:49:14,920
Speaker 1: I told her it is not an easy thing just

951
00:49:14,960 --> 00:49:17,200
Speaker 1: because you're a country girl to come on a country show.

952
00:49:17,520 --> 00:49:20,439
Speaker 1: She she did it. She did it very well. She's

953
00:49:20,440 --> 00:49:22,560
Speaker 1: talented and you know what she really is. You know

954
00:49:22,600 --> 00:49:24,640
Speaker 1: what's interesting, Chris With these dating shows too, it's like,

955
00:49:24,920 --> 00:49:27,120
Speaker 1: in the beginning, you see these farmers like, oh my god,

956
00:49:27,120 --> 00:49:28,719
Speaker 1: I get be doing all these girls. Oh my god,

957
00:49:28,719 --> 00:49:31,480
Speaker 1: with all these girls was so much fun. But then

958
00:49:31,680 --> 00:49:35,000
Speaker 1: you see that turn when it gets hard to let

959
00:49:35,080 --> 00:49:38,600
Speaker 1: people go, and that's you know, it's a very humbling

960
00:49:38,680 --> 00:49:42,240
Speaker 1: moment for to watch. Well, we used to tell The Bachelor,

961
00:49:42,320 --> 00:49:44,440
Speaker 1: it's like, yeah, you're all excited, you're dating thirty girls.

962
00:49:44,440 --> 00:49:47,359
Speaker 1: That means you're breaking up with twenty nine people. That's

963
00:49:47,520 --> 00:49:50,160
Speaker 1: that's that's what's going to happen. And remember you're only

964
00:49:50,160 --> 00:49:53,640
Speaker 1: going home with one, so everybody else here you're gonna

965
00:49:53,680 --> 00:49:56,360
Speaker 1: have to say goodbye to and break their heart or

966
00:49:56,560 --> 00:49:59,400
Speaker 1: be dumped by them. And that's exactly. I like the

967
00:49:59,440 --> 00:50:02,600
Speaker 1: girl that in the first episode where the farmer's like, hey,

968
00:50:02,760 --> 00:50:04,440
Speaker 1: I'd love for you to stay on my farm and

969
00:50:04,440 --> 00:50:07,439
Speaker 1: She's like, yeah, no, I'm going back to New York right,

970
00:50:07,520 --> 00:50:09,120
Speaker 1: good for you. Well, the one thing I do love

971
00:50:09,200 --> 00:50:11,319
Speaker 1: too is like they've got the farmers and they've got

972
00:50:11,320 --> 00:50:13,239
Speaker 1: the girls, and it's like a two way street. So

973
00:50:13,280 --> 00:50:15,000
Speaker 1: the girls get to look at the farmers and go,

974
00:50:15,200 --> 00:50:17,480
Speaker 1: I'm more into you than you. Yeah, you know. So

975
00:50:17,560 --> 00:50:19,520
Speaker 1: they get to kind of choose who they want, and

976
00:50:19,560 --> 00:50:21,560
Speaker 1: then the farmers counter near it down. From there they

977
00:50:22,239 --> 00:50:25,400
Speaker 1: decide where they're going to Cowboy up right and the

978
00:50:25,520 --> 00:50:27,000
Speaker 1: girl there's a girl. I want you guys to keep

979
00:50:27,080 --> 00:50:29,560
Speaker 1: up Cassidy Joe. I got a kick out of her

980
00:50:30,400 --> 00:50:34,200
Speaker 1: Last bunks Bunk, Cassie Joe, Last bunk, Yeah, Cassie Joe,

981
00:50:34,360 --> 00:50:38,040
Speaker 1: speaking of spunk, You're just the best, and I so

982
00:50:38,200 --> 00:50:42,080
Speaker 1: appreciate you coming on. I've missed you. Our paths across

983
00:50:42,200 --> 00:50:44,759
Speaker 1: many times in this business, and I've loved every moment

984
00:50:44,880 --> 00:50:47,399
Speaker 1: we've had a chance to work together, beside each other,

985
00:50:47,560 --> 00:50:50,000
Speaker 1: beyond each other's shows. You're just one of those people

986
00:50:50,400 --> 00:50:52,120
Speaker 1: in life. Every time I get to bump into I'm

987
00:50:52,160 --> 00:50:55,360
Speaker 1: so happy you too. I hope you know that I

988
00:50:55,480 --> 00:50:56,800
Speaker 1: mean that, And I'm always like I want to do

989
00:50:56,880 --> 00:50:59,120
Speaker 1: something now. Chris he's so talented and so down to earth.

990
00:50:59,200 --> 00:51:01,960
Speaker 1: We just we must have been related in another life

991
00:51:01,960 --> 00:51:04,280
Speaker 1: because it's just too easy. It is. It's been phenomenal.

992
00:51:04,280 --> 00:51:05,600
Speaker 1: I'm glad we've had the chance to work to you,

993
00:51:05,680 --> 00:51:07,920
Speaker 1: and I'm so excited by the way the ratings are

994
00:51:07,960 --> 00:51:12,000
Speaker 1: crushing it again for massing Or. I was really nervously

995
00:51:12,160 --> 00:51:13,400
Speaker 1: looking at it because I knew you were going to

996
00:51:13,440 --> 00:51:14,919
Speaker 1: be on the show and I'm like, Okay, I hope

997
00:51:14,960 --> 00:51:17,279
Speaker 1: the premier is big, and it did. It premiered huge again,

998
00:51:17,760 --> 00:51:20,319
Speaker 1: and we've got great theme nights, you guys. The theme

999
00:51:20,440 --> 00:51:23,360
Speaker 1: nights are out of this world this season. Jennifer's on right,

1000
00:51:23,440 --> 00:51:26,800
Speaker 1: Jennifer Nettles is a guest panel She's a guest panelist

1001
00:51:26,880 --> 00:51:30,480
Speaker 1: this season. And we've got the like eighties themes, DC Heroes,

1002
00:51:30,560 --> 00:51:33,080
Speaker 1: Sesame Street, and New York Theme is this week, so

1003
00:51:33,239 --> 00:51:35,480
Speaker 1: you may check it out because it's really really fun. Well,

1004
00:51:35,520 --> 00:51:36,920
Speaker 1: the only thing that would have made it worse is

1005
00:51:36,960 --> 00:51:40,439
Speaker 1: if I had been there taking off the awesol lot head. Oh,

1006
00:51:40,600 --> 00:51:42,960
Speaker 1: I hope you do come one season in the future.

1007
00:51:43,160 --> 00:51:46,920
Speaker 1: Never know, you never know. I do know this. I

1008
00:51:46,960 --> 00:51:49,960
Speaker 1: appreciate you and thank you so much for being on

1009
00:51:50,000 --> 00:51:52,359
Speaker 1: the show of course, of course, thank you so much.

1010
00:51:52,400 --> 00:51:54,279
Speaker 1: I'll talk to you soon, my friend, you got it

1011
00:51:54,800 --> 00:51:59,080
Speaker 1: by hunt My thanks to Jenny McCarthy. Just one of

1012
00:51:59,120 --> 00:52:01,520
Speaker 1: those people that I have been blessed to get to

1013
00:52:01,640 --> 00:52:05,000
Speaker 1: know in my career and just love her to death.

1014
00:52:05,280 --> 00:52:09,360
Speaker 1: Just always positive, always a pleasant person to be around

1015
00:52:09,400 --> 00:52:11,640
Speaker 1: and work with. And now that she's gone, I want

1016
00:52:11,640 --> 00:52:13,120
Speaker 1: to give her a shameless plug because she has a

1017
00:52:13,320 --> 00:52:16,719
Speaker 1: new line, a lip gloss line called Formless Beauty. If

1018
00:52:16,719 --> 00:52:18,720
Speaker 1: you want to check it out, go to formless Beauty

1019
00:52:18,800 --> 00:52:22,279
Speaker 1: dot com. And pretty interesting about the mass singer, and

1020
00:52:22,360 --> 00:52:24,560
Speaker 1: it was funny. I hadn't even thought about being offered

1021
00:52:24,600 --> 00:52:26,920
Speaker 1: that till she was coming on the show, and it

1022
00:52:27,120 --> 00:52:31,279
Speaker 1: raises the question would I ever do it? I'll never sing,

1023
00:52:31,400 --> 00:52:34,719
Speaker 1: never to anything. I love music. I do love to sing.

1024
00:52:34,840 --> 00:52:37,800
Speaker 1: I'm not great at it, but I can get through it.

1025
00:52:40,320 --> 00:52:44,880
Speaker 1: Like anything. The timing has to be right, so we

1026
00:52:44,960 --> 00:52:48,240
Speaker 1: will see. Maybe I'll be taking off that panda head someday.

1027
00:52:48,840 --> 00:52:51,160
Speaker 1: But thanks for joining us today, and thanks to my

1028
00:52:51,200 --> 00:52:53,799
Speaker 1: guest Jenny McCarthy. Just the best, and you are the best.

1029
00:52:53,880 --> 00:52:56,480
Speaker 1: I appreciate you being with me each and every week

1030
00:52:56,920 --> 00:52:59,080
Speaker 1: here on the most dramatic podcast ever. I will see

1031
00:52:59,120 --> 00:53:01,239
Speaker 1: you next time because we have a lot more to

1032
00:53:01,320 --> 00:53:04,680
Speaker 1: talk about. Thanks for listening. Follow us on Instagram at

1033
00:53:04,719 --> 00:53:07,319
Speaker 1: the most Dramatic pod Ever, and make sure to write

1034
00:53:07,360 --> 00:53:09,960
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1035
00:53:10,000 --> 00:53:10,640
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