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Speaker 1: Oh right, Welcome to yet another episode of Horrible Decisions.

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Speaker 1: I left out the motherfucking but here I go adding

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Speaker 1: the motherfucking horrible decisions. Um. I'm your girl, Mandy v

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Speaker 1: A K s a k A Booch. Hi, I'm Wheezy.

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Speaker 1: Thank you so much for listening today. Welcome back to

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Speaker 1: another episode. Will be good vibes and pretty girls. If

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Speaker 1: you can see us on YouTube, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 1: I'm excited because we are joined today with another guest,

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Speaker 1: and I actually have been seeing so much of you lately, um,

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Speaker 1: just on my timeline, and I've actually reposted a few

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Speaker 1: of the flyers. I know. Michelle Hope has been out, Um,

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Speaker 1: Mistress Marley has been out. Um, I have another friend.

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Speaker 1: I ain't gonna say an Amy because she's gonna come

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Speaker 1: on here, but I just I've been seeing so much

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Speaker 1: going on, guys. If you don't know what I'm talking about,

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Speaker 1: we are joined today by s x no Oir. She

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Speaker 1: is a woman focused on sex and text, so that's

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Speaker 1: kind of what we're gonna talk about. But she's been

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Speaker 1: the thought leader, which I want to talk about what

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Speaker 1: the thought leader, But she's been the thought leader that

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Speaker 1: with us when I listened to episode. I really like

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Speaker 1: this is a hell of a combination. I can specifically

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Speaker 1: remember you hosting a conversation with Liz Goldwin and Eric

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Speaker 1: Less at the Wing, and then I feel like I've

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Speaker 1: seen you in other places that weren't sex related. I

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Speaker 1: feel like I've seen you so well. Yeah, well thought

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Speaker 1: leaders are everywhere, like who holds me? Everywhere? Like whenever

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Speaker 1: I see like really like tall and pretty black girls like,

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Speaker 1: oh my god, are yeah? They both came up to

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Speaker 1: my boobs. Don't do that? So mind you, we're taking

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Speaker 1: we're taking the picture with no. She's like, y'all are

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Speaker 1: so shamed us? I kind of did. I'm like a

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Speaker 1: good six three today though, so that's okay, But are you?

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Speaker 1: I'm normally six, but but I'm always going to get

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Speaker 1: three in the size of my niggas? Are you absolutely?

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Speaker 1: Not really in the heart and not? Okay? Is the heart?

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Speaker 1: That's some bullshit like that? That was real cute? Do

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Speaker 1: you get okay? Do you get annoyed when guys like

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Speaker 1: want to fuck you because you're so tall? Um? I

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Speaker 1: would never be annoyed with someone wanting to fund me.

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Speaker 1: I would just be annoyed with hat like the process

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Speaker 1: of which they approached me to fun. Can you feticize

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Speaker 1: on height because I do. I love my I have

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Speaker 1: a thor fetish like, um, blonde hair, blue eyed, blonde,

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Speaker 1: like just blonde throughout, if you know what I mean,

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Speaker 1: and just very tall like over six five. Yeah. Same,

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Speaker 1: I'm waiting. Actually I'm looking for Okay, here we go. So, um,

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Speaker 1: I got a d M while we're talking about hight

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Speaker 1: Apparently we hight shame the boys a little too often

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Speaker 1: on here, and I got a d M. Really, let

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Speaker 1: me read the d M because it's quite hilarious, and

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Speaker 1: y'all let me know if he was triggered or not.

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Speaker 1: But just don't be shipping all short guys though. He

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Speaker 1: just he started with literally how it started, and I've

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Speaker 1: reposted it on my mind you this is am, But

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Speaker 1: just don't be shipping on short guys. Though you kind

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Speaker 1: of stopped, but I almost stopped listening the way you

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Speaker 1: were always shooting on short guys as if we had

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Speaker 1: no value personally. Though it didn't affect me, but I'm

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Speaker 1: sure some niggas are very insecure about it. Still fucking

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Speaker 1: love you, guys. I will send you, guys an email

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Speaker 1: of something I need advice in my otherwise very happy marriage.

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Speaker 1: What the nigga? What I need? Three? Here we go

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Speaker 1: talk your motherfucking ship. You know. Literally, I I didn't

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Speaker 1: say love, but I know I love every so I will.

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Speaker 1: Here's something I love more than height, and it's money,

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Speaker 1: and I feel length that package doesn't need to come like. Sure,

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Speaker 1: there's a lot of rich, tall niggas out there, but

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Speaker 1: I don't watch basket. I don't know the statistics. What

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Speaker 1: I know is a lot of the richest niggas I've

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Speaker 1: ever met are some of the smallest, and they spend

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Speaker 1: just they out of it. They are you know, the

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Speaker 1: sugar daddy that I had, the one that gotta be

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Speaker 1: that apartment and helped me invest in stocks. He was

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Speaker 1: a mere five six, and I swear to god, I

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Speaker 1: didn't even see it anymore. Same size. He was five eight.

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Speaker 1: That's right, when you're laying down, you height doesn't really matter.

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Speaker 1: It just didn't. I couldn't. I didn't even think about it.

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Speaker 1: Six eight. I'm five one, bitch. We are not the same.

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Speaker 1: In bed Oh, I can't wait to bring him to

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Speaker 1: the dungeon. I mean, I'll tell you right now, and

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Speaker 1: it's not mean, now, even if it's not about the

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Speaker 1: money thing, I don't really care about too much. I mean,

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Speaker 1: obviously like tall, A tall guy would be great. Like

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Speaker 1: there's this thing of I was feeling safe. We could say,

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Speaker 1: like someone's towering over us, like I get the appeal.

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Speaker 1: I literally said that. What I said that, I think

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Speaker 1: there's some psychology and it like I think that most

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Speaker 1: women feel like anyone bigger and height is normally what

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Speaker 1: it is, right if you can get a big guy. Oh,

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Speaker 1: I was just gonna bring it to daddy issues. My

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Speaker 1: daddy is short. I don't like that niggle, So I

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Speaker 1: don't want nobody short like my daddy. I feel like

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Speaker 1: I don't like short dude because the shortest guy I've

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Speaker 1: like maybe his mom told me though, he's like he

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Speaker 1: got Napoleon complex. What y'all think about Tory Lane dull

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Speaker 1: short nigger complex? And like, oh, that is a story

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Speaker 1: that's a whole, another thing that's a whole. Yeah, we're

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Speaker 1: not gonna get into that. Really tried it to make

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Speaker 1: this girl post her bullet wounds because she's a liar,

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Speaker 1: Are you kidding? If only the nerve of people after

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Speaker 1: I've been through something traumatic to fucking attack me and

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Speaker 1: That should made me want to erased the Internet. I didn't,

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Speaker 1: but I really feel like it's it's made us feel

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Speaker 1: like we need to know every fucking thing I have.

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Speaker 1: Someone told me my nigga wasn't real because I posted him,

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Speaker 1: and I was like, what, Like it's so weird, or

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Speaker 1: if we don't fly our money, we don't have any

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Speaker 1: Everybody on the internet is attractive and rich. Nobody on

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Speaker 1: the Internet is broke. That is what their Instagram will

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Speaker 1: tell you. Well, one thing I know it I go

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Speaker 1: through some ship where y'all find out I got shot

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Speaker 1: it by posting a blit wound. Y'all are fucked up.

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Speaker 1: So I wanted to get back to as liken. What

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Speaker 1: is a thought leader? Oh? What is a thought leader? Um?

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Speaker 1: So a thought leader is a th h O T leader? Um.

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Speaker 1: And just to emphasize, because I often I don't really

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Speaker 1: like the academia. Um. Well like no no no, as

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Speaker 1: How are you a thought leader? In your space? At

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Speaker 1: th h o you you know how you spelling? God,

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Speaker 1: I can't even spell the real word thought, but um

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Speaker 1: and so the Horde, right, it's like this idea that

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Speaker 1: and then incorporating the thought is just saying, you know,

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Speaker 1: and so I love it. I thought leader is someone

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Speaker 1: who champions sex positivity. Sex interesting because CES has been

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Speaker 1: known to allow people to So if you guys don't

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Speaker 1: Normally I've tried to get tickets. I guess I didn't

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Speaker 1: every convention I've seen the sexiest little bitches showing shipped off.

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Speaker 1: They got sex toy things. They're like, so, how is

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Speaker 1: it that I'm too thought you to speak? But y'all

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Speaker 1: got they nipples out in Vegas because this was this

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Speaker 1: was this the conference in which they removed you. I

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Speaker 1: company that was denied basically their war because they were

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Speaker 1: like here it goes Mr Patel and and every fucking

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Speaker 1: They getting paid fucking bank dude. Like, but that's the

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Speaker 1: thing that's interesting, is like it is very white presenting.

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Speaker 1: you know, Silicon Valley on HBO and just like Mark

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Speaker 1: Zuckerbrik and all this ship, but the brains behind this

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Speaker 1: operation and exactly what you think it is it's like

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Speaker 1: innovations are coming out of Africa. I mean there's a

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Speaker 1: to know that you can't get my black ass up

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Speaker 1: there to talk about a little sex and tech, you

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Speaker 1: know what I mean? I love what you do, and

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Speaker 1: we're gonna focus more in the horrible decision on sex

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Speaker 1: and tech instead of the vanilla ship. I did want

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Speaker 1: to do a quick iceberg her with you because I

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Speaker 1: know you we're gonna be kind of educational and I

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Speaker 1: know you're like, oh, I want to be a thought leader.

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Speaker 1: I want to be nasty, I want to go do

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Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Well, I need you to

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Speaker 1: share as well. Confession, Yeah, I would love that. So

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Speaker 1: our icebreaker, we're going to do this or that. Okay,

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Speaker 1: it's only three questions, but I like to know kind

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Speaker 1: of where you are on this little spectrum. So would

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Speaker 1: you rather and wee, I would like to know your

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Speaker 1: answer as well. Would you rather only have anal sex

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Speaker 1: for a year or only have oral sex for you?

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, I don't want either one of those. Well,

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Speaker 1: you have to pick one, bitch this or that, like

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Speaker 1: coca PEPSI like, you gotta pick one? Oh my god,

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Speaker 1: only a little or only hate giving? Do I have

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Speaker 1: really see, like I was real bloated this day, but

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Speaker 1: I keep it in my phone, UM, just under the photos,

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Speaker 1: me feel safe. Yeah, I like as much as I

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Speaker 1: love and trust you, like, I get it, like you'll

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Speaker 1: take it on your phone sometimes. But I mean, I've

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Speaker 1: so I get it. But every time I pull up

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Speaker 1: my phone, I feel better. And the dam shit about

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Speaker 1: it's just kind of a safe haven to have it myself.

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Speaker 1: But also I've had a lot of partners where we

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Speaker 1: enjoy sending each other videos of of us having sex.

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Speaker 1: So my fear is that you send this video to

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Speaker 1: this is a fun thing to say, but I'm just like, oh,

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Speaker 1: I'm about to look good any of the ship you

449
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Speaker 1: got on your phone, because God forbid it happens to me,

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Speaker 1: which to me is like one of the most disgusting

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Speaker 1: things you could do to someone is exposed them in

452
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Speaker 1: that way. But if it ever happened to me, Nigga

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Speaker 1: We are going to get into now sex work in

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Speaker 1: tech and being a sex worker ally. So I wanted

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Speaker 1: to have you first define what you mean when it's

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Speaker 1: sex and tech, so what is it? Is it AI?

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Speaker 1: Is it the robots? Is it me? Going on only fans?

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Speaker 1: What part of sex and tech do you focus on? Um?

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Speaker 1: And then also I want you as well to define

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Speaker 1: the sex work in tech, like what that looks like

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Speaker 1: as well. Yeah, so I'll tackle sex tech for us

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Speaker 1: and then I'll tackle sex work next because it's like

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Speaker 1: two kinds of two different whole different definitions. But um,

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Speaker 1: so when you think about sex tech, it's a veral

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Speaker 1: in a horizontal axis. And so alright, alright, girl it no,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna make it real simple up and down. Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly,

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Speaker 1: and I can really this is by far the simplest

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Speaker 1: way it. Right. So the vertical way is physical and digital, right,

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Speaker 1: So we all live in a physical and digital world, right.

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Speaker 1: And the horizontal way, which is like you know left

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Speaker 1: to right, is business, health, and entertainment right to these

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Speaker 1: and kind of arts and cultures also in that right.

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Speaker 1: So these are the different ways that it all intersects.

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Speaker 1: So when we think about the digital component, of course,

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Speaker 1: we can include pornography AI, we can include telemedicine, we

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Speaker 1: can include a salt reporting, we can include Um, you

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Speaker 1: know all of these things that happen in digital space,

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Speaker 1: you know, tender online, you know, digital dating, social media,

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Speaker 1: et cetera, than the physical element, right, So this is

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Speaker 1: the robots, the toys, the pillar ancillary products, right, the

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Speaker 1: things that go along with sex. Um. And so that's

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Speaker 1: that's the best quickest way to explain sex. Sex. So

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Speaker 1: if you can imagine it overreaches every every time, every

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Speaker 1: single thing that we do comes back to sex anology. Um.

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Speaker 1: And so how it incorporates with sex workers is most

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Speaker 1: most commonly. I I incorporate the entertainment element of like

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Speaker 1: you know, um, those who are navigating the upward mobility um,

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Speaker 1: a financial upward mobility through digital space, right, which tends

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Speaker 1: to be this entertainment aspect. Right, So only fans um,

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Speaker 1: you know, um sugar baby on a webcam, etcetera. Um.

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Speaker 1: So that's kind of where my activism and work came

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Speaker 1: into play when I realized that intersection and how underrepresented

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Speaker 1: black women were in that space. What kind of check background?

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Speaker 1: What made you want to do tech stuff? Did you

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Speaker 1: have a check background? No? So I did not have

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Speaker 1: a technology background, and you did not have to have

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Speaker 1: a tech background to be in tech, which is what

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Speaker 1: we preach in women of people like what degree? That nothing?

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Speaker 1: I just know how to work your internet well, right,

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Speaker 1: And I think, well, I think everyone in their own

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Speaker 1: right is an expert of some form of technology. Um

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Speaker 1: to too. I think it says it because I'm a millennial.

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Speaker 1: You know, we had my space in middle school, so

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Speaker 1: I was coding and like the millennial age, you know,

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Speaker 1: when I applied for the last job I've got before,

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Speaker 1: you know, we did this full time. I was chosen

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Speaker 1: over someone who made a comment about how they had

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Speaker 1: been studying tech for five years and blah bah blah

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Speaker 1: blah blah. And my boss told me, once we became cool,

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Speaker 1: like your background and your accolades weighed more to me

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Speaker 1: than them sitting in school because to me, someone who's

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Speaker 1: out there in the world experience it with clients doing

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Speaker 1: this work is different from school. And it's not to

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Speaker 1: say that college like obviously, I think education is paramount,

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Speaker 1: but there is something about that tangible experiencing it from

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Speaker 1: yourself education, which is why internships are a really big things. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'm busting my ass on internships while I was in school,

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Speaker 1: specifically because the school that I went to when you

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Speaker 1: compare it to a Fordham or Columbia or an n

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Speaker 1: y U my Lehman, which is a city university here

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Speaker 1: in New York. Definitely can't compare it to D three school.

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Speaker 1: So even which is if you put the same hours in, yeah,

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Speaker 1: which is but like when you're going to these interviews

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Speaker 1: and stuff like that, of course the school does make

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Speaker 1: a difference. So the way that I had to add

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Speaker 1: to that was studying abroad, having an internship and working

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Speaker 1: at you know, an investment bank and the state and

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Speaker 1: all of that. Did you do any classes and even

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Speaker 1: if you don't know, okay, no, no, I didn't. I

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Speaker 1: think I went to school for humosexuality, okay, anyone to

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Speaker 1: school in London for a few years for psychology and

602
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Speaker 1: human sexuality. It was always just fascinated by sex workers,

603
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Speaker 1: by horrors, by people who were these entrepreneurs who just

604
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Speaker 1: they were like these superheroes, you know, who just flew

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Speaker 1: underground and under the radar. But you know what, they're

606
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Speaker 1: not really under the radar, but you know about but

607
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Speaker 1: in a way under the radar but not right. You

608
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Speaker 1: have these dual identities, right like you you know, so

609
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Speaker 1: you have your you're flying in the world and you

610
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Speaker 1: have your mask on, but you're flying and you're in.

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Speaker 1: You're free, and you're changing the world and you're in.

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Speaker 1: You're saving people and you're giving orgasms and it's great, right,

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Speaker 1: And I think that for me, I just I went

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Speaker 1: to school and I never really loved school. I never

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Speaker 1: really fit in academia. I always just had my own thoughts,

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Speaker 1: I had my own opinions, and I always realized, you know,

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Speaker 1: academia is a is a white supremacist institution, and most

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Speaker 1: likely in America right now, the white man you yeah, exactly,

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Speaker 1: you know what I'm exactly. And so when I went

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Speaker 1: to school in London, I was like, Okay, this is cool,

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Speaker 1: this is cute. I partied a lot, model did all

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Speaker 1: that fun stuff. Came back to New York and I

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Speaker 1: just realized that I really loved sex workers. I loved

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Speaker 1: everything about it. I love the community, I love the

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Speaker 1: work they did, and I realized how unprotected they were

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Speaker 1: in digital space. And so I stood up as an

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Speaker 1: activist UM for sex workers and activists and an advocate,

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Speaker 1: but also just I realized there was this huge gap

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Speaker 1: of lack of empathy UM and designing toward UM catering

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Speaker 1: towards black people and by pocs in digital space. And

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Speaker 1: I realized that and um, you know in the ways

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Speaker 1: that like if you are clear and black, you're more

633
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Speaker 1: likely to be shadow band than someone who's queer and white.

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Speaker 1: Simple ways that you know, no algorithm is without bias.

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Speaker 1: I always say, no, everyone without bias and no orgasms.

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Speaker 1: The same thing, although it's glad Kim Kardashian being able

637
00:32:07,360 --> 00:32:11,200
Speaker 1: to post very scatterly, you know, scantily nude and if

638
00:32:11,240 --> 00:32:16,960
Speaker 1: someone just does it, you get deleted or removed. Yeah,

639
00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:18,719
Speaker 1: and it's kind of just like so I just realized

640
00:32:18,720 --> 00:32:20,960
Speaker 1: like all these intersections in digital space and just also

641
00:32:21,160 --> 00:32:23,560
Speaker 1: just entertainment and music. You know, y'all had on the

642
00:32:23,560 --> 00:32:27,200
Speaker 1: City Girls, right, and that interview was like so amazing

643
00:32:27,240 --> 00:32:29,560
Speaker 1: to me but also just so interesting, right because they

644
00:32:29,560 --> 00:32:32,680
Speaker 1: weren't who they say they are. Well, but there's way

645
00:32:32,800 --> 00:32:36,160
Speaker 1: they are, but they have they ever said And I

646
00:32:36,280 --> 00:32:40,040
Speaker 1: never really thought about it until I realized that they

647
00:32:40,080 --> 00:32:43,360
Speaker 1: It wasn't clicking, like do they really talk that nasty

648
00:32:43,480 --> 00:32:45,920
Speaker 1: or do they talk niggas? And money? They do talk

649
00:32:45,960 --> 00:32:47,560
Speaker 1: about which is why I mean I did want to

650
00:32:47,560 --> 00:32:49,880
Speaker 1: get into That's why the flute out the niggas money

651
00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:53,200
Speaker 1: as soon as we were asking the sex questions, and

652
00:32:53,480 --> 00:32:55,720
Speaker 1: that's where they kind of shied away. But also with

653
00:32:55,840 --> 00:32:58,240
Speaker 1: talking to you as someone who is a sex worker

654
00:32:58,240 --> 00:33:00,480
Speaker 1: advocate and you're saying you don't suck dick, I guess

655
00:33:00,520 --> 00:33:02,920
Speaker 1: we automatically think that if you're a whole or a whore,

656
00:33:03,320 --> 00:33:06,840
Speaker 1: that you're this raunchy, nasty, displexing mabellion as the one

657
00:33:06,880 --> 00:33:09,400
Speaker 1: who's like riding the dick and make the motherfucking man.

658
00:33:09,720 --> 00:33:12,640
Speaker 1: You know. That's what There's a lot of people in

659
00:33:12,840 --> 00:33:15,360
Speaker 1: entertainment and music and just our culture period who are

660
00:33:15,440 --> 00:33:19,000
Speaker 1: heavily influenced by sex workers black sex work do not

661
00:33:19,280 --> 00:33:22,960
Speaker 1: fully understand the decriminalization and the need for decriminalization within

662
00:33:23,040 --> 00:33:25,040
Speaker 1: the industry. And I think that's the part where I

663
00:33:25,120 --> 00:33:28,240
Speaker 1: get frustrated. You know, Um, it's just like you know,

664
00:33:28,240 --> 00:33:30,480
Speaker 1: because city girls, to me, that's my fucking anthem. Like

665
00:33:30,600 --> 00:33:33,440
Speaker 1: that to me, that's what I literally literally think that

666
00:33:33,560 --> 00:33:36,600
Speaker 1: The difference what they said it's an anthem for us

667
00:33:36,760 --> 00:33:40,400
Speaker 1: is it's more celebrating being able to feel. And granted

668
00:33:40,440 --> 00:33:43,200
Speaker 1: their words don't sound like this, but realist, bitch, get

669
00:33:43,240 --> 00:33:47,120
Speaker 1: aut nigga let's do a little urban dictionary, like I

670
00:33:47,200 --> 00:33:49,840
Speaker 1: can be a girl out here in the world, making money, independent,

671
00:33:49,960 --> 00:33:51,920
Speaker 1: doing my own ship, and don't need to worry about

672
00:33:51,920 --> 00:33:54,480
Speaker 1: your mother fucking ask because I'm doing well like and

673
00:33:54,680 --> 00:33:56,960
Speaker 1: but also just because I make my own money, I'm independent,

674
00:33:57,000 --> 00:33:59,800
Speaker 1: don't mean I can't spain yours, which is why they's

675
00:34:00,480 --> 00:34:03,320
Speaker 1: that's that, But it's also literally just sex work rhetoric.

676
00:34:03,640 --> 00:34:07,080
Speaker 1: I can't ignore all of this, and that's kind of

677
00:34:07,160 --> 00:34:08,840
Speaker 1: my point, and this is why I love to you know,

678
00:34:08,920 --> 00:34:10,800
Speaker 1: I have the Thought Leader podcast. I had my podcast

679
00:34:10,840 --> 00:34:12,920
Speaker 1: where I intersect um. I talked about the intersections of

680
00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:15,399
Speaker 1: sex work, sex tech, culture and all this ship because

681
00:34:15,400 --> 00:34:19,120
Speaker 1: it's just like y'all literally talking about sex work, and

682
00:34:19,560 --> 00:34:23,400
Speaker 1: I wish client it won't. But that's my point and

683
00:34:23,440 --> 00:34:25,960
Speaker 1: that's why I'm here talking about it, why I'm fearlessly

684
00:34:26,000 --> 00:34:28,640
Speaker 1: approaching it, because you know, we had the biggest march

685
00:34:28,719 --> 00:34:33,800
Speaker 1: in history for black sex workers period. We had about

686
00:34:33,800 --> 00:34:37,480
Speaker 1: a thousand people show up, which is um the largest,

687
00:34:37,800 --> 00:34:40,560
Speaker 1: This is the largest sex work specific marks that's ever happened.

688
00:34:40,920 --> 00:34:45,160
Speaker 1: And so part of thank you, so part of you

689
00:34:45,239 --> 00:34:47,480
Speaker 1: know the quote that I put out to press and said,

690
00:34:47,520 --> 00:34:50,239
Speaker 1: you know, black sex workers demand the acknowledgement that we

691
00:34:50,400 --> 00:34:55,080
Speaker 1: make towards contributions and technology, culture, art, feminism, l g

692
00:34:55,160 --> 00:34:57,640
Speaker 1: B t q I I writes, you know everything, like

693
00:34:57,800 --> 00:35:00,960
Speaker 1: we lead the world's liberation as far as freedom, as

694
00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:04,200
Speaker 1: far as you know, um, just human rights, civil rights,

695
00:35:04,560 --> 00:35:06,399
Speaker 1: you know, like I I like to you know, I'm

696
00:35:06,440 --> 00:35:09,000
Speaker 1: Malcolm SX no air like I don't play, you know,

697
00:35:09,080 --> 00:35:12,840
Speaker 1: I feel like there's no you know, liberation um comes

698
00:35:13,080 --> 00:35:16,200
Speaker 1: at a fearlessness to approach real concepts, which is sex

699
00:35:16,239 --> 00:35:18,880
Speaker 1: workers real. And so while I I love city girls

700
00:35:18,960 --> 00:35:21,080
Speaker 1: and um there's no shade of city girls. But it's

701
00:35:21,080 --> 00:35:23,000
Speaker 1: like make the stallion Cardi b all of these you know,

702
00:35:23,120 --> 00:35:25,759
Speaker 1: feminist rappers like you were speaking on. They need to

703
00:35:25,840 --> 00:35:29,480
Speaker 1: acknowledge and demand that the world acknowledges that sex workers

704
00:35:30,160 --> 00:35:31,640
Speaker 1: this is what we need. These are the rights that

705
00:35:31,719 --> 00:35:33,920
Speaker 1: we need. This is a political act. I will say

706
00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:38,160
Speaker 1: something that I did like about Cardi. Cardi definitely and

707
00:35:38,280 --> 00:35:41,800
Speaker 1: she brings people like she you know, she was dancing

708
00:35:41,880 --> 00:35:46,719
Speaker 1: at Starlett first sure and spoke on it and death

709
00:35:46,840 --> 00:35:48,719
Speaker 1: that she did. She did do a little bit of

710
00:35:48,840 --> 00:35:52,520
Speaker 1: hor phobia. UM, and mind you we've all had it

711
00:35:52,600 --> 00:35:54,960
Speaker 1: on this show. I remember, you're like the fee pick thing,

712
00:35:55,200 --> 00:35:57,239
Speaker 1: me with the sugar daddy thing, like we all have

713
00:35:57,719 --> 00:35:59,799
Speaker 1: had it, and I think that I want to say

714
00:35:59,840 --> 00:36:02,800
Speaker 1: that we've all have had it, just to emphasize and

715
00:36:02,840 --> 00:36:04,480
Speaker 1: show we've had our moments and we've got to grow

716
00:36:04,560 --> 00:36:07,279
Speaker 1: from them. And I remember she used to say, well,

717
00:36:07,320 --> 00:36:10,399
Speaker 1: I was never fucking, like she made a big point

718
00:36:10,400 --> 00:36:11,840
Speaker 1: to tell you some of those girls are sucking in

719
00:36:11,880 --> 00:36:14,680
Speaker 1: the club. I was never fucking But then it changed.

720
00:36:14,760 --> 00:36:17,600
Speaker 1: Her tune changed, and I appreciate that it changed because

721
00:36:17,680 --> 00:36:19,640
Speaker 1: over time she was like, fuck it, we all in

722
00:36:19,680 --> 00:36:21,880
Speaker 1: the same lane, you know, I mean to me, it

723
00:36:22,000 --> 00:36:25,160
Speaker 1: really is like I can't say that, and I don't

724
00:36:25,200 --> 00:36:26,839
Speaker 1: know who brought it up on our show, or maybe

725
00:36:26,840 --> 00:36:29,280
Speaker 1: if I heard it somewhere else, like the street walker

726
00:36:29,800 --> 00:36:32,560
Speaker 1: versus the escort, and maybe it was Ali x X.

727
00:36:33,200 --> 00:36:35,640
Speaker 1: At Triple X she was talking about how like street

728
00:36:35,680 --> 00:36:38,680
Speaker 1: walkers like people talk shit about them and act like

729
00:36:38,719 --> 00:36:41,200
Speaker 1: they're better, but it's like you still show up to

730
00:36:41,280 --> 00:36:44,280
Speaker 1: someone like y'all are still fucking someone that have different access,

731
00:36:44,400 --> 00:36:47,320
Speaker 1: Maybe they can't be online, maybe they're homeless, Like we

732
00:36:47,360 --> 00:36:49,399
Speaker 1: don't fucking know, but we're still sucking for money, whether

733
00:36:49,480 --> 00:36:51,320
Speaker 1: mine the higher dollar, your is a lower dollar, Like

734
00:36:51,719 --> 00:36:55,000
Speaker 1: we does a great points bring up? What is sex word? Yes,

735
00:36:55,320 --> 00:36:57,560
Speaker 1: I'll look at you. So now you do on the show.

736
00:36:58,760 --> 00:37:02,080
Speaker 1: I'm backing down, not doing the show. Do the show? No,

737
00:37:02,360 --> 00:37:04,400
Speaker 1: But so Mandy and I we did like this. No,

738
00:37:04,640 --> 00:37:09,560
Speaker 1: we did this. We did this like discussion or something NFW. Yeah,

739
00:37:09,600 --> 00:37:11,960
Speaker 1: and Mandy is just so Mandy and I'm just so

740
00:37:12,280 --> 00:37:15,279
Speaker 1: meat and I was just like, listen, Mandy, please take charge,

741
00:37:15,320 --> 00:37:16,640
Speaker 1: like for want like I just I would love to

742
00:37:16,760 --> 00:37:20,880
Speaker 1: not have to direct and out. No. It was just

743
00:37:20,920 --> 00:37:23,400
Speaker 1: like a black Black Lives Matter conversation or something, and

744
00:37:23,480 --> 00:37:25,759
Speaker 1: like it was virtual, but Mandy was just leading and

745
00:37:25,760 --> 00:37:28,320
Speaker 1: I was like yeah, but you know I was talking

746
00:37:28,320 --> 00:37:30,439
Speaker 1: a little bit. Also I ended up getting a little

747
00:37:30,480 --> 00:37:32,839
Speaker 1: snap because a guy had pretty much was like, well,

748
00:37:33,080 --> 00:37:35,799
Speaker 1: what makes you even know what you're talking about something

749
00:37:35,880 --> 00:37:37,719
Speaker 1: like this? And I had to be like so just

750
00:37:37,840 --> 00:37:41,920
Speaker 1: so you know, like I am actually like and I

751
00:37:42,080 --> 00:37:46,120
Speaker 1: ran it down. No I did, and um, yeah, so

752
00:37:46,360 --> 00:37:49,360
Speaker 1: now I'm not gonna take lead here because we have

753
00:37:49,480 --> 00:37:52,520
Speaker 1: you on our show, but can you like kind of

754
00:37:52,600 --> 00:37:55,880
Speaker 1: go into what sex work is? Um? And what you

755
00:37:55,920 --> 00:38:01,600
Speaker 1: would have said had I not been Mandy be that night. Um. Absolutely, so, um,

756
00:38:01,800 --> 00:38:04,160
Speaker 1: sex work, I like to talk about it in the

757
00:38:04,160 --> 00:38:06,160
Speaker 1: political aspect. We like to talk about it like as

758
00:38:06,200 --> 00:38:09,279
Speaker 1: the sex trade. Um. So, the sex trade embodies many things.

759
00:38:09,320 --> 00:38:11,640
Speaker 1: I'm not going to get vertical horizontal with y'all, but

760
00:38:11,920 --> 00:38:14,360
Speaker 1: I'll keep it simple. So the sex trade and compass

761
00:38:14,440 --> 00:38:16,919
Speaker 1: is three aspects of how someone could come into trading sex.

762
00:38:17,880 --> 00:38:23,880
Speaker 1: Let's see. So okay, So it's we have circumstance, we

763
00:38:24,000 --> 00:38:28,319
Speaker 1: have choice, and we have coorcion. Um. So the reason

764
00:38:28,400 --> 00:38:30,120
Speaker 1: why we talk about the sex trade in this way

765
00:38:30,200 --> 00:38:32,640
Speaker 1: is because it embodies the conversation of sex trafficking, which

766
00:38:32,719 --> 00:38:37,120
Speaker 1: all sex workers are against sex trafficking, sex sex traffick.

767
00:38:37,360 --> 00:38:40,040
Speaker 1: No one wants sex trafficking, right, So when we talk

768
00:38:40,080 --> 00:38:42,600
Speaker 1: about the sex trade and we embody the conversation of coercion,

769
00:38:42,680 --> 00:38:45,279
Speaker 1: we can obviously understand all the many aspects into which

770
00:38:45,360 --> 00:38:49,200
Speaker 1: coercion can play into trading sex. But we also can

771
00:38:49,600 --> 00:38:53,080
Speaker 1: understand core choice, which is what we're all fighting for,

772
00:38:53,239 --> 00:38:57,320
Speaker 1: and we also can understand circumstances. So the conversation I

773
00:38:57,480 --> 00:39:02,480
Speaker 1: just had with Glamazon's only by the way because to me, um,

774
00:39:02,719 --> 00:39:05,279
Speaker 1: I put that as a reason I mean, I talked

775
00:39:05,320 --> 00:39:07,439
Speaker 1: about on this podcast why I was single for so long,

776
00:39:07,760 --> 00:39:09,840
Speaker 1: and I bring up the fact that I was dependent

777
00:39:09,920 --> 00:39:13,440
Speaker 1: financially on men and I wasn't going to have a

778
00:39:13,480 --> 00:39:18,400
Speaker 1: relationship with someone and still feel like I needed financial

779
00:39:18,680 --> 00:39:21,759
Speaker 1: help from other people. And so it's funny because this

780
00:39:21,880 --> 00:39:25,359
Speaker 1: came out. Someone responded on Twitter um to the City

781
00:39:25,360 --> 00:39:29,799
Speaker 1: Girls interview and was like, oh, um, city girls are

782
00:39:29,880 --> 00:39:32,120
Speaker 1: hoes because they grew up in the projects. It was like, oh,

783
00:39:32,200 --> 00:39:35,200
Speaker 1: but these fluts talking about Wheezy and I as hosts

784
00:39:35,480 --> 00:39:37,520
Speaker 1: are just fluts from the suburbs that just want to

785
00:39:37,560 --> 00:39:40,600
Speaker 1: suck dick. And I responded because I did take offense

786
00:39:40,640 --> 00:39:42,960
Speaker 1: to it because I feel like in the way that

787
00:39:43,200 --> 00:39:45,239
Speaker 1: I was introduced to sex work in which I did

788
00:39:45,320 --> 00:39:48,120
Speaker 1: have these partners that was financially taking care of me,

789
00:39:48,400 --> 00:39:50,160
Speaker 1: I feel like it was a means of survival. I

790
00:39:50,280 --> 00:39:53,200
Speaker 1: used my pussy as a means of survival, and that's

791
00:39:53,239 --> 00:39:55,000
Speaker 1: what kind of this is what we was talking about.

792
00:39:55,200 --> 00:39:57,680
Speaker 1: And so I'm not going to bring up capitalist coercion

793
00:39:57,760 --> 00:40:00,319
Speaker 1: because we only have a certain amount of time to right,

794
00:40:00,600 --> 00:40:03,719
Speaker 1: but um, you know, I will bring up circumstance, and

795
00:40:03,800 --> 00:40:05,920
Speaker 1: so circumstances, you know, This is the classic trope of

796
00:40:05,960 --> 00:40:08,239
Speaker 1: the strip stripping to pay for school. This is the

797
00:40:08,280 --> 00:40:10,520
Speaker 1: classic trope of paying you know, doing sex work to

798
00:40:10,600 --> 00:40:14,120
Speaker 1: have a source of upward mobility that the world seems palatable.

799
00:40:14,360 --> 00:40:17,320
Speaker 1: So this can be through healthcare, etcetera, etcetera. But we

800
00:40:17,440 --> 00:40:19,680
Speaker 1: understand under capitalism the reason why we don't have these

801
00:40:19,719 --> 00:40:23,120
Speaker 1: resources because our government isn't meeting them. So our circumstances

802
00:40:23,239 --> 00:40:26,279
Speaker 1: brought by capitalism. Right, so we can absolutely acknowledge that

803
00:40:26,360 --> 00:40:28,319
Speaker 1: we don't have healthcare, we don't have dental care. Right,

804
00:40:28,480 --> 00:40:30,080
Speaker 1: you'll turn a trick to get a root canal. I

805
00:40:30,200 --> 00:40:36,040
Speaker 1: best believe you will. So you see, So you know, circumstance, choice,

806
00:40:36,080 --> 00:40:38,800
Speaker 1: and coercion are absolutely all things that take place in

807
00:40:39,160 --> 00:40:41,640
Speaker 1: the sex trade. And this also helps us understand how

808
00:40:41,719 --> 00:40:44,759
Speaker 1: this is also criminalized as well, the cycle of criminalization

809
00:40:44,800 --> 00:40:52,560
Speaker 1: that happens within the sex So we love so we

810
00:40:52,680 --> 00:40:55,919
Speaker 1: love to say sex work, but in the activism sense.

811
00:40:56,000 --> 00:40:57,719
Speaker 1: And also like when you're just kind of explaining someone

812
00:40:57,760 --> 00:41:00,680
Speaker 1: who bring, well, what about trafficking the sex trade? Embody,

813
00:41:00,840 --> 00:41:04,840
Speaker 1: so much more of the conversation you can be navigating

814
00:41:05,120 --> 00:41:07,719
Speaker 1: the sex because generally in the sex trade, with as

815
00:41:07,760 --> 00:41:11,160
Speaker 1: far as it comes to trafficking. The stories that we

816
00:41:11,280 --> 00:41:14,200
Speaker 1: read about women dying, trans women getting murdered, things like that,

817
00:41:14,360 --> 00:41:18,200
Speaker 1: it is generally from a trafficking standpoint, someone meeting someone

818
00:41:18,280 --> 00:41:21,120
Speaker 1: that led them into this way and then ban their

819
00:41:21,160 --> 00:41:24,480
Speaker 1: life at risk. We can they're not taking I think

820
00:41:24,560 --> 00:41:28,640
Speaker 1: with choice and circumstance, people are using a lot of

821
00:41:28,760 --> 00:41:32,640
Speaker 1: different avenues instead of resulting to what someone told you

822
00:41:32,760 --> 00:41:34,799
Speaker 1: to do. And that's how you get course and start

823
00:41:34,840 --> 00:41:37,120
Speaker 1: being a little more unsafe when it comes to choice, Like,

824
00:41:37,280 --> 00:41:40,440
Speaker 1: I feel like there's a lot more access we have

825
00:41:40,719 --> 00:41:44,120
Speaker 1: to either, especially with choice right because you're going to

826
00:41:44,200 --> 00:41:46,000
Speaker 1: research that you want to do this job and try

827
00:41:46,040 --> 00:41:47,600
Speaker 1: to keep yourself safe as much as you can and

828
00:41:47,680 --> 00:41:50,080
Speaker 1: take a little more like effort into figuring out how

829
00:41:50,120 --> 00:41:52,680
Speaker 1: to do this. With sex trafficking, I think that is

830
00:41:52,760 --> 00:41:57,080
Speaker 1: one of the most powerless sex working options you could

831
00:41:57,160 --> 00:42:00,720
Speaker 1: have LIFEX trafficking isn't sex works, you know, and also,

832
00:42:00,840 --> 00:42:03,719
Speaker 1: like what you're doing sex trafficking, sex trafficking, I'll say that,

833
00:42:03,800 --> 00:42:06,759
Speaker 1: but it is according to no, no, no no. I'm

834
00:42:06,800 --> 00:42:09,680
Speaker 1: talking about when you're booked all of that ship, when

835
00:42:09,719 --> 00:42:13,520
Speaker 1: that's on your fucking If you google someone and get

836
00:42:13,520 --> 00:42:15,759
Speaker 1: a background check, you're going to see sex work no

837
00:42:15,840 --> 00:42:17,360
Speaker 1: matter if they were sex trafficked or not. You know

838
00:42:17,400 --> 00:42:19,600
Speaker 1: how hard it is to get that ship removed. I've

839
00:42:19,640 --> 00:42:24,680
Speaker 1: been so many conversations. One of the biggest, no, one

840
00:42:24,719 --> 00:42:26,840
Speaker 1: of the biggest violence that we have in our community

841
00:42:26,960 --> 00:42:29,600
Speaker 1: is people saying that sex trafficking is sex work sex trafficking,

842
00:42:29,680 --> 00:42:32,320
Speaker 1: and no form way capacity is sex work. It's just

843
00:42:32,480 --> 00:42:34,839
Speaker 1: it's not different. But what I'm saying is people are

844
00:42:35,200 --> 00:42:38,200
Speaker 1: having this terrible thing follow them into their regular life. Right,

845
00:42:38,280 --> 00:42:40,640
Speaker 1: So when we talk about that, right, so when and

846
00:42:40,760 --> 00:42:43,920
Speaker 1: this is this is a great point exactly because when

847
00:42:44,000 --> 00:42:46,880
Speaker 1: we decriminalize sex work, we are fighting sex trafficking. And

848
00:42:46,920 --> 00:42:49,359
Speaker 1: that's exactly what you're speaking about. So when we're decriminalizing

849
00:42:49,400 --> 00:42:52,000
Speaker 1: these aspects that are like follow you, like as in

850
00:42:52,040 --> 00:42:56,440
Speaker 1: a record, um that can produce you from getting housing, education, healthcare, etcetera.

851
00:42:56,920 --> 00:42:59,560
Speaker 1: That's yeah, that's the project. And I cannot imagine a

852
00:42:59,640 --> 00:43:02,760
Speaker 1: sixt in year old for prostitution. It's on her record

853
00:43:02,960 --> 00:43:04,520
Speaker 1: and now I can't get a fucking out. They have

854
00:43:04,560 --> 00:43:07,320
Speaker 1: to explain to you why this well outside of outside

855
00:43:07,360 --> 00:43:10,960
Speaker 1: of the young ages UM, and we know sex work

856
00:43:11,040 --> 00:43:12,759
Speaker 1: to be of of course, like what's going on and

857
00:43:12,840 --> 00:43:16,120
Speaker 1: what we're seeing, how does how does sex trafficking differ

858
00:43:16,280 --> 00:43:19,800
Speaker 1: from being pimped or is it the same thing? Or

859
00:43:19,880 --> 00:43:22,360
Speaker 1: choosing a pimp? And this is not when you're under age.

860
00:43:22,360 --> 00:43:25,040
Speaker 1: I'm talking about grown women who decide that they are

861
00:43:25,080 --> 00:43:28,640
Speaker 1: going to give their money to their pimp. Yeah. So again,

862
00:43:28,680 --> 00:43:31,239
Speaker 1: there's many different reasons why you navigate the sex trade,

863
00:43:31,280 --> 00:43:33,800
Speaker 1: and we also have to understand the criminalized aspect of

864
00:43:33,920 --> 00:43:36,160
Speaker 1: navigating the sex trade. So there are some who feel

865
00:43:36,200 --> 00:43:38,399
Speaker 1: more safe and comfortable with someone else who can help

866
00:43:38,440 --> 00:43:42,759
Speaker 1: facilitate their sex strate um and so obviously, um, you know,

867
00:43:42,960 --> 00:43:45,200
Speaker 1: the concept of a pimp has a very negative connotation,

868
00:43:45,320 --> 00:43:48,880
Speaker 1: which we can historically understand. So, but the idea that

869
00:43:49,560 --> 00:43:54,320
Speaker 1: people may need um, well, it's just yeah, Madams mc glorified,

870
00:43:54,360 --> 00:43:56,919
Speaker 1: And there's all these different words that associate with pimp

871
00:43:57,000 --> 00:44:00,399
Speaker 1: that are just historically just pimicated, black and just kind

872
00:44:00,440 --> 00:44:03,440
Speaker 1: of this really just rooted in violence. Really, but the

873
00:44:03,719 --> 00:44:07,160
Speaker 1: idea that someone could want someone else to help them

874
00:44:07,200 --> 00:44:09,920
Speaker 1: facilitate work is not a crazy idea. The reality is

875
00:44:10,080 --> 00:44:12,520
Speaker 1: that because it's so criminalized and because it's an informal

876
00:44:12,560 --> 00:44:15,240
Speaker 1: aspect of labor, because it's pushed underdoors, it's pushed underground,

877
00:44:15,400 --> 00:44:19,160
Speaker 1: it has so much stigma and shame. People can people

878
00:44:19,239 --> 00:44:21,120
Speaker 1: navigating in so many different ways. And so when we

879
00:44:21,160 --> 00:44:23,480
Speaker 1: talk about the sex trade, yes, corrosion can be one

880
00:44:23,560 --> 00:44:25,719
Speaker 1: of them, can be one reason and one aspect of

881
00:44:25,800 --> 00:44:27,840
Speaker 1: how you're not trading sex. I mean, one of the

882
00:44:27,880 --> 00:44:31,399
Speaker 1: biggest examples in pop culture and something is a Centauria Brown,

883
00:44:31,440 --> 00:44:33,680
Speaker 1: of course, like you know, we watch what happened to

884
00:44:33,760 --> 00:44:37,920
Speaker 1: her and people feeling like it's just crazy to me

885
00:44:38,320 --> 00:44:41,719
Speaker 1: because when that documentary came out, I cannot even imagine

886
00:44:41,760 --> 00:44:45,399
Speaker 1: how fucked up, Like I don't care in which way

887
00:44:45,560 --> 00:44:47,400
Speaker 1: she killed him, Like do you know how much trauma

888
00:44:47,920 --> 00:44:50,920
Speaker 1: has to go for a girl that age to go

889
00:44:51,080 --> 00:44:53,239
Speaker 1: home with someone and know she needs to survive, Like

890
00:44:54,000 --> 00:44:56,239
Speaker 1: there's just so much judgment when it comes to that,

891
00:44:56,360 --> 00:45:00,040
Speaker 1: and she's yeah, you know, And and this is what

892
00:45:00,120 --> 00:45:02,160
Speaker 1: we talk about when we talk about like so you know,

893
00:45:02,200 --> 00:45:04,000
Speaker 1: I've been doing all these political actions in Black Lives

894
00:45:04,040 --> 00:45:06,440
Speaker 1: Matter movement, et cetera, right, and really just standing up

895
00:45:06,480 --> 00:45:08,440
Speaker 1: for sex workers for in the Black Lives Matter movement

896
00:45:08,560 --> 00:45:11,839
Speaker 1: because you all forget we have to sour bio under

897
00:45:11,880 --> 00:45:14,520
Speaker 1: capitalism and there's so many ways that we have to

898
00:45:14,600 --> 00:45:18,400
Speaker 1: like being trans you know, not having an employment opportunities,

899
00:45:18,440 --> 00:45:21,359
Speaker 1: not having housing opportunities. This is an anti poverty issue.

900
00:45:21,400 --> 00:45:24,600
Speaker 1: Decriminalizing sex workers an anti poverty issue because we're talking

901
00:45:24,600 --> 00:45:26,680
Speaker 1: about sex, like, we're also talking about all forms of

902
00:45:26,719 --> 00:45:29,200
Speaker 1: informal labor, in street labor. We're talking about the woman

903
00:45:29,239 --> 00:45:31,760
Speaker 1: who sells truros, We're talking about the woman who's who's

904
00:45:31,760 --> 00:45:33,719
Speaker 1: selling mask on the street. We're talking about all those

905
00:45:33,760 --> 00:45:37,279
Speaker 1: people who are in vulnerable and compromisable working conditions, and

906
00:45:37,320 --> 00:45:39,360
Speaker 1: this is what we're fighting against. You know, Jessica Ramows

907
00:45:39,440 --> 00:45:41,720
Speaker 1: is a state Senate, spoke at our Sex Worker Liberation

908
00:45:41,840 --> 00:45:45,080
Speaker 1: march um and you know she's the chair of Labor,

909
00:45:45,200 --> 00:45:49,080
Speaker 1: and this is everyone deserves to have working, healthy working condition.

910
00:45:49,200 --> 00:45:51,319
Speaker 1: Everyone deserves to see that's not a privilege. A lot

911
00:45:51,360 --> 00:45:53,759
Speaker 1: of your conversation too, does go into so I know

912
00:45:53,880 --> 00:45:56,839
Speaker 1: you talk about sets and everything going on, but also

913
00:45:56,960 --> 00:45:59,839
Speaker 1: with Kamala Harris as the on the VP ticket, you're

914
00:45:59,840 --> 00:46:02,520
Speaker 1: not being too fond of her um and I just

915
00:46:02,840 --> 00:46:05,800
Speaker 1: I read into that, but also the idea, like I

916
00:46:06,160 --> 00:46:07,600
Speaker 1: kind of just want to touch on it real quick

917
00:46:07,640 --> 00:46:10,480
Speaker 1: if we can, before we get out because Kamala Harris,

918
00:46:10,560 --> 00:46:13,960
Speaker 1: of course was added to the ticket. UM and Joe

919
00:46:14,000 --> 00:46:17,520
Speaker 1: Biden has been pandering to the black vote, and now

920
00:46:17,680 --> 00:46:20,680
Speaker 1: as a black woman in that chair, we do want

921
00:46:20,719 --> 00:46:22,880
Speaker 1: to see her fight for us. However, there's been a

922
00:46:22,920 --> 00:46:25,560
Speaker 1: lot of things that she's done that says against it.

923
00:46:25,640 --> 00:46:27,759
Speaker 1: So I want to know what are your findings and

924
00:46:27,840 --> 00:46:30,440
Speaker 1: what can you educate our listeners about how she may

925
00:46:30,560 --> 00:46:35,439
Speaker 1: not be pro sex work or what what. I'm sorry,

926
00:46:35,440 --> 00:46:38,800
Speaker 1: I'm very sensitive about like steering. Anybody that listens to

927
00:46:38,880 --> 00:46:41,400
Speaker 1: this show to the other we're risking their vote and

928
00:46:41,400 --> 00:46:42,960
Speaker 1: I'm not saying you're doing that. I just want to

929
00:46:43,120 --> 00:46:46,680
Speaker 1: keep in mind, please vote, Please do not hold your vote.

930
00:46:46,920 --> 00:46:50,759
Speaker 1: Please do not protest your vote. Literally, we have the

931
00:46:50,920 --> 00:46:54,280
Speaker 1: worst person that could, on a global standpoint, be in office,

932
00:46:54,640 --> 00:46:58,920
Speaker 1: and whereas Kamala, much like Trump or Pens may not

933
00:46:59,040 --> 00:47:02,160
Speaker 1: be for these things. We should have this conversation, but

934
00:47:02,320 --> 00:47:05,319
Speaker 1: do not hold that motherfucking vote. I love the Breakfast Club,

935
00:47:05,640 --> 00:47:08,360
Speaker 1: I love all of these black outlets that are educating people.

936
00:47:08,480 --> 00:47:10,799
Speaker 1: I am absolutely not a fan of holding your vote.

937
00:47:10,960 --> 00:47:13,400
Speaker 1: I don't care about anything that people are talking about like,

938
00:47:13,520 --> 00:47:15,560
Speaker 1: oh we gotta do this t I included. I think

939
00:47:15,600 --> 00:47:17,600
Speaker 1: it is the most irresponsible thing black people can do

940
00:47:17,760 --> 00:47:20,320
Speaker 1: right now. I'm sorry, but I should vote for party.

941
00:47:20,960 --> 00:47:22,719
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know if you have, but I

942
00:47:22,800 --> 00:47:25,080
Speaker 1: know we've talked about food stamps and things that we've used.

943
00:47:25,080 --> 00:47:26,880
Speaker 1: These are things that are in our favor from the

944
00:47:26,960 --> 00:47:30,920
Speaker 1: Democratic Party. Police understand, she could be a bitch, but

945
00:47:31,040 --> 00:47:33,520
Speaker 1: she's going to be a better bitch than that, Nickiga, Okay,

946
00:47:33,560 --> 00:47:35,640
Speaker 1: go ahead. No, I think that's an important note to

947
00:47:35,680 --> 00:47:37,640
Speaker 1: make because, you know, for the people who are in

948
00:47:37,680 --> 00:47:40,920
Speaker 1: my community listening, this is a devastating conversation, absolutely correct,

949
00:47:40,960 --> 00:47:43,439
Speaker 1: And that's a great prefect to have this conversation because

950
00:47:43,640 --> 00:47:45,560
Speaker 1: for us it feels it feels like I don't want

951
00:47:45,560 --> 00:47:48,080
Speaker 1: to vote, and it feels devastated, and I think, you know,

952
00:47:48,200 --> 00:47:50,680
Speaker 1: for me again, you know, and for me, you know,

953
00:47:50,719 --> 00:47:53,120
Speaker 1: I'm I'm twenty four, I'm a very I'm you know,

954
00:47:53,160 --> 00:47:56,600
Speaker 1: I'm a young woman in this world and speak I

955
00:47:56,760 --> 00:48:01,400
Speaker 1: cannot believe that I'm gon a lot of even holy

956
00:48:01,520 --> 00:48:07,000
Speaker 1: ship local, but just have it holy I know. So

957
00:48:07,320 --> 00:48:09,239
Speaker 1: I'm twenty four years old, and so I remember I

958
00:48:09,360 --> 00:48:11,160
Speaker 1: just had this realization. I was talking to my therapist

959
00:48:11,160 --> 00:48:15,399
Speaker 1: and so you didn't you, Um I did. I think

960
00:48:15,440 --> 00:48:19,480
Speaker 1: that was like my first year, that was eighteen six anyway,

961
00:48:19,640 --> 00:48:22,080
Speaker 1: So basically just I don't. So basically, you know, I'm

962
00:48:22,080 --> 00:48:23,560
Speaker 1: talking about therapists about this, and you know, I just

963
00:48:23,760 --> 00:48:25,800
Speaker 1: just bringing her this devastation. I go, you know, with

964
00:48:25,960 --> 00:48:27,880
Speaker 1: my politics and how radical I am, you know, and

965
00:48:28,160 --> 00:48:31,520
Speaker 1: me you know, and researching Malcolm X and and reading

966
00:48:31,640 --> 00:48:35,160
Speaker 1: his reading his fucking words as if I wrote them myself,

967
00:48:35,280 --> 00:48:37,120
Speaker 1: as if they came out of my head and were

968
00:48:37,120 --> 00:48:39,600
Speaker 1: put onto paper myself, something written in nineteen sixty seven.

969
00:48:39,760 --> 00:48:41,759
Speaker 1: And I realized that my journey is not going to

970
00:48:41,800 --> 00:48:43,279
Speaker 1: be an easy one. It's not going to be one

971
00:48:43,320 --> 00:48:45,759
Speaker 1: where I just get everything I want. Politically, it's not

972
00:48:45,920 --> 00:48:48,440
Speaker 1: like because my politics are radical. I'm a police pobolitionist,

973
00:48:48,760 --> 00:48:51,239
Speaker 1: you know, I'm a prison abolitionist. I'm all these things.

974
00:48:51,280 --> 00:48:53,480
Speaker 1: And so I understand that, guess what, life does come

975
00:48:53,520 --> 00:48:55,200
Speaker 1: with a lot of compromise. And so when it comes

976
00:48:55,239 --> 00:48:57,319
Speaker 1: to Kamala, you know, come by. Yeah, she's a woman

977
00:48:57,360 --> 00:48:59,520
Speaker 1: of color, she's blocks, she's Asian, she's all these things,

978
00:48:59,640 --> 00:49:01,399
Speaker 1: but just a fucking cop. And I think I don't

979
00:49:01,680 --> 00:49:03,279
Speaker 1: trust cops. And I think that as far as the

980
00:49:03,280 --> 00:49:06,520
Speaker 1: sex working community, in the transgender community. She has put

981
00:49:06,640 --> 00:49:09,879
Speaker 1: so much irreparable harm into those communities that it's unforgivable.

982
00:49:10,080 --> 00:49:12,239
Speaker 1: But I also don't like Biden either, right, So at

983
00:49:12,280 --> 00:49:15,000
Speaker 1: what point I have to take my myself out of it?

984
00:49:15,120 --> 00:49:17,839
Speaker 1: And it's hard to because my activism is myself because

985
00:49:17,880 --> 00:49:20,160
Speaker 1: it's okay to have a self interest in activism and

986
00:49:20,239 --> 00:49:23,080
Speaker 1: have a self interest in certain political outcomes. Dub But

987
00:49:23,560 --> 00:49:25,440
Speaker 1: as far as Kamala goes, you know, one thing I

988
00:49:25,520 --> 00:49:28,160
Speaker 1: will just reiterate is that when she's speaking about decriminalization

989
00:49:28,239 --> 00:49:29,880
Speaker 1: of sex work, she's not speaking about it in the

990
00:49:29,920 --> 00:49:31,880
Speaker 1: way that we as sex workers are speaking about it.

991
00:49:31,960 --> 00:49:34,520
Speaker 1: She's speaking about the Nordic model. And so the Nordic

992
00:49:34,600 --> 00:49:37,359
Speaker 1: model is a model that is an in demand model um,

993
00:49:37,560 --> 00:49:40,960
Speaker 1: which is a which is ending the demand and prosecuting

994
00:49:41,000 --> 00:49:43,320
Speaker 1: the clients. But we as activists know that if you

995
00:49:43,400 --> 00:49:46,279
Speaker 1: prosecute any element of the cycle of trading sex, that

996
00:49:46,360 --> 00:49:49,160
Speaker 1: you prosecute at all, and there's no there's no scenario

997
00:49:49,280 --> 00:49:51,680
Speaker 1: where you of sex worker coming in interaction with police

998
00:49:51,760 --> 00:49:54,520
Speaker 1: means no brutality, no harassment, no et cetera. We know

999
00:49:54,680 --> 00:49:56,520
Speaker 1: that it does, and so there's no there's no way

1000
00:49:56,600 --> 00:49:59,840
Speaker 1: that you can prosecute the client, prosecute the clients u

1001
00:50:00,200 --> 00:50:02,440
Speaker 1: and attack them and also just take away the actual

1002
00:50:02,520 --> 00:50:05,400
Speaker 1: income of these sex workers without hurting sex workers. And

1003
00:50:05,520 --> 00:50:07,839
Speaker 1: so I think that's just important to understanding and really

1004
00:50:07,920 --> 00:50:10,320
Speaker 1: listen to what people are saying and how they're saying it,

1005
00:50:10,840 --> 00:50:12,560
Speaker 1: because they may not be speaking about it the same

1006
00:50:12,600 --> 00:50:14,200
Speaker 1: way you're talking about it. And so when it comes

1007
00:50:14,239 --> 00:50:16,560
Speaker 1: to Kamala, like, I mean, great, everyone has all these

1008
00:50:16,640 --> 00:50:18,400
Speaker 1: high hopes for Oh well, if we just push her,

1009
00:50:18,400 --> 00:50:20,480
Speaker 1: if we just push her like kumbaya, you know, I'm

1010
00:50:20,480 --> 00:50:25,759
Speaker 1: waiting for AOC That's who I'm waiting for you. When

1011
00:50:25,800 --> 00:50:29,640
Speaker 1: we get the office back Blue, I feel like AC

1012
00:50:29,920 --> 00:50:33,319
Speaker 1: are saying, she's the most Bernie person that we can get.

1013
00:50:33,800 --> 00:50:35,880
Speaker 1: She I was so wet for Bernie, Like it's a

1014
00:50:35,960 --> 00:50:41,680
Speaker 1: bit much shit. I was like wet for Bernie. And

1015
00:50:41,719 --> 00:50:44,759
Speaker 1: a lot of people are very like they think he's

1016
00:50:44,840 --> 00:50:47,799
Speaker 1: very controversial as far as the socialistic aspects for health

1017
00:50:47,840 --> 00:50:50,359
Speaker 1: care and ship like that. Even if he couldn't make

1018
00:50:50,560 --> 00:50:52,960
Speaker 1: free health care happen in four years, I know he

1019
00:50:53,080 --> 00:50:55,960
Speaker 1: was going to start that trajectory. And I had so

1020
00:50:56,200 --> 00:50:58,600
Speaker 1: much faith in this person and It breaks my heart

1021
00:50:58,920 --> 00:51:02,880
Speaker 1: that politics are so written with like favors. Because they

1022
00:51:03,000 --> 00:51:05,239
Speaker 1: sucked him over with that Hillary vote. I'm sorry I

1023
00:51:05,400 --> 00:51:07,239
Speaker 1: went to fun. I didn't even live in New York

1024
00:51:07,280 --> 00:51:10,000
Speaker 1: at the time I watched that motherfucker. And I never

1025
00:51:10,160 --> 00:51:13,400
Speaker 1: even at Obama's rally. I was only seventeen, and I

1026
00:51:13,520 --> 00:51:16,719
Speaker 1: have never seen anybody in my life have that many

1027
00:51:16,800 --> 00:51:21,080
Speaker 1: people come out be so like enamored by this man

1028
00:51:21,320 --> 00:51:23,800
Speaker 1: to vote for him. And I do not believe Hillary

1029
00:51:23,840 --> 00:51:26,560
Speaker 1: want to vote over him. They fucked him over. Whatever

1030
00:51:26,600 --> 00:51:31,120
Speaker 1: they did some Russia ship. I don't know ballance it.

1031
00:51:31,320 --> 00:51:33,800
Speaker 1: I'm sure Florida had a hand in it and function

1032
00:51:34,040 --> 00:51:37,400
Speaker 1: up up, but who knows. You know, we do have

1033
00:51:37,560 --> 00:51:39,640
Speaker 1: some good Dems on our side who are super liberal.

1034
00:51:39,640 --> 00:51:42,080
Speaker 1: I don't even know if AOC would even call herself

1035
00:51:42,120 --> 00:51:44,080
Speaker 1: a Democrat if she didn't had to to get man.

1036
00:51:44,360 --> 00:51:46,560
Speaker 1: I really don't believe she. I think she just gotta

1037
00:51:46,600 --> 00:51:49,200
Speaker 1: say it, so should be right there. I believe we got.

1038
00:51:49,360 --> 00:51:51,919
Speaker 1: We ain't moved into a place where a Green Party

1039
00:51:52,000 --> 00:51:54,960
Speaker 1: has become like it's one third, like where an idea

1040
00:51:55,000 --> 00:51:57,279
Speaker 1: of another party can come in and take him. Because

1041
00:51:57,280 --> 00:51:59,719
Speaker 1: there are still so many things with the Democrats, the

1042
00:52:00,000 --> 00:52:03,680
Speaker 1: Democratic Party that is aged as well. The same with

1043
00:52:03,840 --> 00:52:06,520
Speaker 1: the Republican it's I mean, they're very liberal liberal, but

1044
00:52:06,600 --> 00:52:08,640
Speaker 1: the idea that we haven't had that Green party coming

1045
00:52:08,680 --> 00:52:11,280
Speaker 1: and it literally be maybe a three way race instead

1046
00:52:11,320 --> 00:52:15,320
Speaker 1: of it literally being one of the something called transferable vote.

1047
00:52:15,640 --> 00:52:17,680
Speaker 1: And if you guys want to look it up on YouTube,

1048
00:52:17,760 --> 00:52:21,279
Speaker 1: heard it, No I had, I had the YouTube link

1049
00:52:21,400 --> 00:52:24,480
Speaker 1: right here. Um it's uh, it's on. I'm trying to

1050
00:52:24,520 --> 00:52:26,680
Speaker 1: tell you guys it's but it's only eleven minutes. But

1051
00:52:26,760 --> 00:52:29,640
Speaker 1: I want you guys to watch this YouTube, Politics and

1052
00:52:29,680 --> 00:52:32,960
Speaker 1: the Animal Kingdom single transferable vote, and basically it tells

1053
00:52:33,000 --> 00:52:39,120
Speaker 1: you that's where we at the jungle. Basically it tells

1054
00:52:39,120 --> 00:52:41,279
Speaker 1: you that you can have a second choice, and if

1055
00:52:41,360 --> 00:52:43,919
Speaker 1: we could have that, we would be able to start

1056
00:52:43,960 --> 00:52:47,080
Speaker 1: electing Green parties at like Elizabeth Warren, you know what

1057
00:52:47,120 --> 00:52:49,680
Speaker 1: I mean, Like someone like her could have been around.

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00:52:49,840 --> 00:52:51,800
Speaker 1: So I'm just really hoping that the world change. And

1059
00:52:51,840 --> 00:52:55,080
Speaker 1: I really only have faith the world, the world about y'all.

1060
00:52:55,239 --> 00:52:57,759
Speaker 1: This pandemic still here and you know what, you know

1061
00:52:57,880 --> 00:53:01,520
Speaker 1: why you know why? You know the pandemic still here Atlanta.

1062
00:53:01,719 --> 00:53:06,960
Speaker 1: That's just the answer. Motherfuck my COSI my husband, Donna

1063
00:53:07,080 --> 00:53:11,080
Speaker 1: Trump wheel in Tan Dining and everybody in Atlanta who

1064
00:53:11,160 --> 00:53:14,759
Speaker 1: got to clubs moke hooka, please stop because it's not

1065
00:53:14,840 --> 00:53:20,600
Speaker 1: good for Conrey. That's her. Um, thank you very much.

1066
00:53:20,800 --> 00:53:23,840
Speaker 1: This black woman here, she talked about this sex. I

1067
00:53:24,000 --> 00:53:27,120
Speaker 1: used to do this sex and now I don't because

1068
00:53:27,120 --> 00:53:34,200
Speaker 1: I have husband and he's give me citizen. Okay, I guess, um,

1069
00:53:34,520 --> 00:53:36,680
Speaker 1: but we will go ahead and get out of here.

1070
00:53:36,680 --> 00:53:39,040
Speaker 1: I guess well, before we go out, normally we end

1071
00:53:39,120 --> 00:53:41,239
Speaker 1: either with home mail or home confession. I wanted to

1072
00:53:41,280 --> 00:53:44,040
Speaker 1: know if you've had a whole confession or if you

1073
00:53:44,120 --> 00:53:46,200
Speaker 1: didn't have a whole confession, if you could share the

1074
00:53:46,280 --> 00:53:49,160
Speaker 1: craziest story that you have. Yeah, it's definitely out with

1075
00:53:49,200 --> 00:53:52,680
Speaker 1: your mother. So either the craziest sex confession or the

1076
00:53:52,760 --> 00:53:55,160
Speaker 1: craziest thing you've come into contact or heard of through

1077
00:53:55,200 --> 00:53:57,840
Speaker 1: sex and tech. Okay, So like, I just want to

1078
00:53:57,920 --> 00:54:00,400
Speaker 1: talk to the girls real quick. Yeah, girl, I was

1079
00:54:00,440 --> 00:54:03,120
Speaker 1: listening to the I was listening to y'all and everyone's like,

1080
00:54:03,200 --> 00:54:05,120
Speaker 1: what do we do to get a guy that flies out?

1081
00:54:05,200 --> 00:54:07,640
Speaker 1: And what we do? Like how do I basically ask

1082
00:54:07,719 --> 00:54:10,759
Speaker 1: for respect? And I'm just like, why are y'all so

1083
00:54:11,040 --> 00:54:13,480
Speaker 1: afraid to ask for what you want, Like what do

1084
00:54:13,560 --> 00:54:16,239
Speaker 1: you to lose by someone telling you know, so this

1085
00:54:16,400 --> 00:54:20,160
Speaker 1: isn't the read, but well there's not the read at all.

1086
00:54:20,440 --> 00:54:23,840
Speaker 1: It was on my brain because it's a whole confession.

1087
00:54:23,880 --> 00:54:25,920
Speaker 1: It's a whole confession tied into it. Thought lead a

1088
00:54:25,960 --> 00:54:31,359
Speaker 1: moment and you know, so my my favorite. I've been

1089
00:54:31,400 --> 00:54:33,360
Speaker 1: flown out for first days. I've been flown across the

1090
00:54:33,440 --> 00:54:36,239
Speaker 1: world for floise dates. I've been flown Toto bye, I've

1091
00:54:36,280 --> 00:54:46,239
Speaker 1: been flown to Hong Kong, Tokyo, Korea, um, paris, everywhere, Okay,

1092
00:54:46,800 --> 00:54:48,720
Speaker 1: And I just think y'all just have to be furious

1093
00:54:48,760 --> 00:54:50,200
Speaker 1: when you're going to ask a question and you think,

1094
00:54:50,200 --> 00:54:52,400
Speaker 1: oh my god, I'm gonna fall off this cliff. Just jump,

1095
00:54:52,520 --> 00:54:55,680
Speaker 1: Just jump and do it. And don't be afraid. Don't

1096
00:54:55,680 --> 00:54:57,239
Speaker 1: be afraid to be with the man who looks a

1097
00:54:57,280 --> 00:54:59,200
Speaker 1: little bit strange to everybody else, but you know he's

1098
00:54:59,200 --> 00:55:01,480
Speaker 1: your little cutie. Don't be afraid to be with a

1099
00:55:01,560 --> 00:55:04,360
Speaker 1: shirt hand. Don't be afraid, you know what I mean? Like,

1100
00:55:04,600 --> 00:55:08,080
Speaker 1: it's so many more baths to secure than silly ego

1101
00:55:08,200 --> 00:55:11,239
Speaker 1: ship Like get the bag that is life, baby, that's

1102
00:55:11,280 --> 00:55:13,680
Speaker 1: mine that's right. And here's the thing I'm going to

1103
00:55:13,800 --> 00:55:17,040
Speaker 1: add to that. Literally, when it comes to either getting

1104
00:55:17,040 --> 00:55:21,600
Speaker 1: flown out, getting a bill paid, getting whatever in any

1105
00:55:21,920 --> 00:55:25,360
Speaker 1: as even as as far as asking for something in bed. Literally,

1106
00:55:25,440 --> 00:55:27,600
Speaker 1: this is how I trained myself to just ask all

1107
00:55:27,640 --> 00:55:30,080
Speaker 1: these niggas for the most extravagant ship in my bills

1108
00:55:30,120 --> 00:55:33,120
Speaker 1: and everything else. Train yourself. Come on, ladies, this is

1109
00:55:33,160 --> 00:55:35,480
Speaker 1: what you do. Close your eyes. You're ready, and you

1110
00:55:35,640 --> 00:55:38,279
Speaker 1: need to repeat. The worst thing that can happen is

1111
00:55:38,320 --> 00:55:42,960
Speaker 1: he says, no, it happened. But no, no, no, no, no.

1112
00:55:43,120 --> 00:55:47,120
Speaker 1: But literally and now now saying ladies, close your eyes.

1113
00:55:47,560 --> 00:55:50,640
Speaker 1: You are okay with hearing no. You are okay with

1114
00:55:50,880 --> 00:55:53,960
Speaker 1: hearing no, like you have to accept the word no.

1115
00:55:54,400 --> 00:55:57,960
Speaker 1: We love and use Noah's power for us in the bedroom,

1116
00:55:58,239 --> 00:55:59,799
Speaker 1: for us to tell us what we want and don't

1117
00:55:59,800 --> 00:56:01,759
Speaker 1: want from men. And so if we can find a

1118
00:56:01,800 --> 00:56:04,840
Speaker 1: way to just be okay with slight rejection or no

1119
00:56:05,120 --> 00:56:07,960
Speaker 1: or then leading into negotiation at well, if I can't

1120
00:56:07,960 --> 00:56:10,960
Speaker 1: get this, can I get this bartering? Use your scales? Literally,

1121
00:56:11,239 --> 00:56:13,799
Speaker 1: you know what don't work in a retail store. You've

1122
00:56:13,840 --> 00:56:17,600
Speaker 1: already done said she got her negotiation skills from the bar.

1123
00:56:18,360 --> 00:56:22,000
Speaker 1: Bartender workers are all around you using these dynamics all

1124
00:56:22,120 --> 00:56:24,640
Speaker 1: around you. Have you guys watched Selling Sunset on Netflix

1125
00:56:24,719 --> 00:56:28,040
Speaker 1: yet I was recommended. People tell me it's like million

1126
00:56:28,080 --> 00:56:30,480
Speaker 1: dollars they have material, and boy do I have it.

1127
00:56:31,080 --> 00:56:33,399
Speaker 1: So it's the show. It's like l A or whatever.

1128
00:56:33,480 --> 00:56:38,320
Speaker 1: It's like the Hollywood, you know, like they saw like

1129
00:56:38,360 --> 00:56:40,040
Speaker 1: the most money. It's like a quarterbllion in Rabbit Year

1130
00:56:40,080 --> 00:56:43,359
Speaker 1: or whatever. So anyway, they have an Israeli girl who

1131
00:56:43,400 --> 00:56:46,040
Speaker 1: gets on there and you have to see the ship

1132
00:56:46,200 --> 00:56:48,400
Speaker 1: that she has to go through just to sell a

1133
00:56:48,520 --> 00:56:50,719
Speaker 1: fucking house, right, And it just made me think about

1134
00:56:50,719 --> 00:56:54,160
Speaker 1: it because a bar attending this woman is selling a

1135
00:56:54,960 --> 00:56:57,319
Speaker 1: million dollar home and she's like showing him the pool

1136
00:56:57,360 --> 00:56:59,239
Speaker 1: how it rops around the house. And he's like, oh, well,

1137
00:56:59,239 --> 00:57:01,040
Speaker 1: I want to see you in and she's like okay,

1138
00:57:01,400 --> 00:57:04,040
Speaker 1: and right going to I mean, and she even made

1139
00:57:04,080 --> 00:57:06,560
Speaker 1: a comment it really made me uncomfortable as he kept going,

1140
00:57:06,640 --> 00:57:08,759
Speaker 1: it's the first episode, y'all. I just started watching it,

1141
00:57:09,440 --> 00:57:11,960
Speaker 1: and she goes, I have to play this game to

1142
00:57:12,040 --> 00:57:14,360
Speaker 1: do my job. I have a hand, I'm pregnant. I

1143
00:57:14,480 --> 00:57:16,800
Speaker 1: have to play this game to do my job. To

1144
00:57:16,880 --> 00:57:18,440
Speaker 1: get this done. I'm used to it. She didn't even

1145
00:57:18,520 --> 00:57:20,160
Speaker 1: like she had to brush it off and like was

1146
00:57:20,280 --> 00:57:23,160
Speaker 1: almost like a shield. She didn't even see it. And

1147
00:57:23,320 --> 00:57:25,200
Speaker 1: he's She's like, okay, we can go and discuss and

1148
00:57:25,240 --> 00:57:26,680
Speaker 1: he's like, why I want to discuss it over drinks?

1149
00:57:26,720 --> 00:57:28,400
Speaker 1: We can discuss it over lunch. Like how many times

1150
00:57:28,440 --> 00:57:31,919
Speaker 1: you have to skip around? I counted six times within

1151
00:57:32,040 --> 00:57:35,000
Speaker 1: a two minute scene watching this guy just keep going

1152
00:57:35,400 --> 00:57:39,360
Speaker 1: And it's disgusting, but everyone, but as as persistent as

1153
00:57:39,440 --> 00:57:41,440
Speaker 1: men are, women you need to be just as persistent.

1154
00:57:41,480 --> 00:57:44,240
Speaker 1: And if a guy is constantly telling you know, the

1155
00:57:44,360 --> 00:57:46,960
Speaker 1: next one will, just know the next one will. So

1156
00:57:47,360 --> 00:57:49,040
Speaker 1: there's a lot of bags were secure. And I'm not

1157
00:57:49,080 --> 00:57:52,160
Speaker 1: gonna get into it right now, but there's emotional, financial, social,

1158
00:57:52,280 --> 00:57:54,600
Speaker 1: There's so many different ways that you can benefit from

1159
00:57:54,640 --> 00:57:58,080
Speaker 1: relationships than just getting cash money and just getting a flight,

1160
00:57:58,200 --> 00:58:00,200
Speaker 1: like and but that also requires you to know who

1161
00:58:00,320 --> 00:58:02,520
Speaker 1: you are. And so I think the biggest issue these

1162
00:58:02,520 --> 00:58:04,640
Speaker 1: people have who keep getting nosed because you don't even

1163
00:58:04,680 --> 00:58:06,640
Speaker 1: know what you need. You don't even know what you need,

1164
00:58:06,680 --> 00:58:09,080
Speaker 1: you even know, So how you gonna get what you

1165
00:58:09,120 --> 00:58:10,480
Speaker 1: want if you don't even know what you're asking for

1166
00:58:10,560 --> 00:58:12,360
Speaker 1: and I think it has to not be like with

1167
00:58:12,520 --> 00:58:14,200
Speaker 1: a don't send me like the EMO G and d

1168
00:58:14,320 --> 00:58:17,400
Speaker 1: QC about it. You know what you want if you

1169
00:58:17,480 --> 00:58:19,400
Speaker 1: tell him that you know anyway, let me not because

1170
00:58:19,400 --> 00:58:22,360
Speaker 1: you know so so SX nor can you let our

1171
00:58:22,400 --> 00:58:24,320
Speaker 1: listeners know where they can find you where they can

1172
00:58:24,720 --> 00:58:26,800
Speaker 1: By the way, guys, when she gives you her Instagram,

1173
00:58:27,200 --> 00:58:29,560
Speaker 1: when you go there, click her link tree because you

1174
00:58:29,640 --> 00:58:32,000
Speaker 1: can see so much. I literally feel like I did

1175
00:58:32,040 --> 00:58:34,520
Speaker 1: a research project on you last night. So I loved

1176
00:58:34,640 --> 00:58:36,120
Speaker 1: just reading all of the things that you are a

1177
00:58:36,200 --> 00:58:40,560
Speaker 1: part of, um, your missions, what everything means, your marches,

1178
00:58:40,680 --> 00:58:42,680
Speaker 1: like all of it. So go ahead and share what share.

1179
00:58:43,200 --> 00:58:44,720
Speaker 1: I'm so happy to be here. Thank you all for

1180
00:58:44,840 --> 00:58:49,360
Speaker 1: having mesion. You left after you left after that panel

1181
00:58:49,400 --> 00:58:51,520
Speaker 1: we did right, Oh, I was because some dude was

1182
00:58:51,560 --> 00:58:54,720
Speaker 1: debating between like what if she really wants it or something,

1183
00:58:54,760 --> 00:59:00,320
Speaker 1: and some white dude comments, and you are you find

1184
00:59:00,800 --> 00:59:03,840
Speaker 1: but you should have you should have stayed because never

1185
00:59:04,240 --> 00:59:06,520
Speaker 1: not the ones I find. It's really glad to have

1186
00:59:06,640 --> 00:59:08,840
Speaker 1: a black girl here that fus white guys too, because

1187
00:59:09,520 --> 00:59:12,320
Speaker 1: my man is white. But like they'd be some good

1188
00:59:12,400 --> 00:59:14,959
Speaker 1: ones yo, and they nen't know they privileged and shout

1189
00:59:15,000 --> 00:59:16,960
Speaker 1: out to my white friends because they bee know and

1190
00:59:17,000 --> 00:59:18,840
Speaker 1: they do not do black sense. And I funk with

1191
00:59:18,920 --> 00:59:22,560
Speaker 1: them hard. Not like that Caucasian kind of that you

1192
00:59:22,640 --> 00:59:25,520
Speaker 1: guys will hear about on Ashley's episode, but seriously like

1193
00:59:26,240 --> 00:59:28,760
Speaker 1: the ones that I find. You gotta vet your white dude, bro,

1194
00:59:29,000 --> 00:59:32,200
Speaker 1: I know how to scream, alright, whine about this. He's

1195
00:59:32,400 --> 00:59:35,120
Speaker 1: that fun white man who's not good. He is my husband.

1196
00:59:35,640 --> 00:59:40,120
Speaker 1: He is a person of color. Color. So if you

1197
00:59:40,360 --> 00:59:43,720
Speaker 1: like this color, you can go ahead. Let the people

1198
00:59:43,720 --> 00:59:45,720
Speaker 1: know where they can find you. Ma'am. That is too good.

1199
00:59:45,840 --> 00:59:48,560
Speaker 1: So I'm a sex now are um and I am

1200
00:59:48,600 --> 00:59:51,200
Speaker 1: the thought leader of Sex Technology. I'm also the vice

1201
00:59:51,240 --> 00:59:53,320
Speaker 1: president of the Women of Sex Technology. We will be

1202
00:59:53,400 --> 00:59:55,720
Speaker 1: opening up membership in the Fault, so if you love

1203
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Speaker 1: sex in tech, come and join us and coming. Yes

1204
00:59:59,080 --> 01:00:02,160
Speaker 1: the Fault is coming uh. And we are also raising funds,

1205
01:00:02,200 --> 01:00:04,200
Speaker 1: so if you're an investor or an angel investor, a

1206
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Speaker 1: VC fund, Women of Sex Tech we are raising our

1207
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Speaker 1: first rounds. What was the netflix were Jason oh sar

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Speaker 1: Oh Sark And then also I have a podcast too

1209
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Speaker 1: that's coming out with new episodes called Good Pussy, Good politics.

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Speaker 1: It's called thought leader pot leader. Check that out because

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Speaker 1: I love you all and I am the host and

1212
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Speaker 1: I bring on different thought leaders every week. Y'all will

1213
01:00:31,040 --> 01:00:35,800
Speaker 1: obviously have to come on. And um, I am also

1214
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Speaker 1: the lead of Black Sex Recorliberations, so go ahead and

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Speaker 1: follow us on Twitter, Black s w March UM and

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Speaker 1: to keep up the movement for black sex worker rights.

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Speaker 1: And yeah, I think that's it and all of this

1219
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Speaker 1: will be on the description of the episode. Be thoughtful,

1220
01:00:54,160 --> 01:00:56,760
Speaker 1: as you guys know, we enjoy you guys. For those

1221
01:00:56,800 --> 01:00:59,320
Speaker 1: of you who listen to us on your streaming platforms,

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01:00:59,480 --> 01:01:02,240
Speaker 1: but also here on YouTube. UM, shout out to Benson.

1223
01:01:02,280 --> 01:01:04,120
Speaker 1: Benson been rocking with us doing what he do. He

1224
01:01:04,160 --> 01:01:06,480
Speaker 1: does clip you know he loves the lighting or whatever,

1225
01:01:06,600 --> 01:01:08,480
Speaker 1: and it's like, I love it because what kind of

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Speaker 1: works out homes on sunset here you got with the bullshit.

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Speaker 1: Um well, also, guys, I hope you guys enjoyed this episode.

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Speaker 1: If you are all caught up with horrible decisions, we

1229
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Speaker 1: are over on Patreon, so that's Patreon dot com back

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Speaker 1: slash Horrible decisions. You do have to type it all

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Speaker 1: out because it's a team plus content um. And we

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Speaker 1: have three bonus episodes every month over there. Um. Also,

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Speaker 1: if you are all caught up, go ahead. I don't

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Speaker 1: over the period sis. Um. It is my solo pod

1235
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Speaker 1: where I am doing tales of womanhood um. And literally

1236
01:01:37,720 --> 01:01:41,360
Speaker 1: it's everything from PCOS to breastfeeding to sexual assault to

1237
01:01:41,480 --> 01:01:44,280
Speaker 1: loving yourself to codependency um. And so check that out

1238
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Speaker 1: and we're gonna leave you guys with a five minute

1239
01:01:46,160 --> 01:01:50,080
Speaker 1: bonus clip. Thank you sx nore for motherfucking joining us, guys.

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01:01:50,160 --> 01:01:56,640
Speaker 1: This has been yet another episode of horrible decisions. So anyway,

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Speaker 1: Obey is a fucking sweetheart. He was like, I'm take

1242
01:02:00,200 --> 01:02:02,520
Speaker 1: care of the recipe, right. I was like, yeah, yeah,

1243
01:02:02,680 --> 01:02:05,960
Speaker 1: damn right, you will. So you figure out what they

1244
01:02:06,040 --> 01:02:09,440
Speaker 1: offered and we'll do the rest. So I'm all right,

1245
01:02:09,440 --> 01:02:14,240
Speaker 1: maybe it's five eighties. No, it was not. These motherfucker's

1246
01:02:14,280 --> 01:02:18,760
Speaker 1: did over market value, of course I did. So then

1247
01:02:18,800 --> 01:02:20,520
Speaker 1: I said, let me do my plea, let me do

1248
01:02:20,680 --> 01:02:24,600
Speaker 1: my my best. They are also Jewish, I knew from

1249
01:02:24,600 --> 01:02:27,360
Speaker 1: the last name I call them. I'm like, listen, Moista,

1250
01:02:29,520 --> 01:02:31,280
Speaker 1: I need you to look. You know, I want to

1251
01:02:31,400 --> 01:02:35,360
Speaker 1: keep this heirloom and the family. Okay, I'm not gonna

1252
01:02:35,400 --> 01:02:38,480
Speaker 1: read it out. Wait wait, wait, wait, you want to

1253
01:02:38,560 --> 01:02:41,320
Speaker 1: keep the one in the family, the heirloom you know,

1254
01:02:41,920 --> 01:02:47,520
Speaker 1: isn't that motherfucking a mushroom? What a like a it's

1255
01:02:47,560 --> 01:02:50,400
Speaker 1: a tomato? What you mean you want to keep the

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01:02:50,440 --> 01:02:53,920
Speaker 1: heirloom in the family. Heirloom is a motherfucker tomato being

1257
01:02:54,280 --> 01:02:59,440
Speaker 1: I'm gonna leave. Wait, nope, it is it is dope. You'

1258
01:02:59,480 --> 01:03:02,360
Speaker 1: all they go is airline tomatoes, like I know how

1259
01:03:02,400 --> 01:03:04,479
Speaker 1: to spell it in everything. I need. I need someone

1260
01:03:04,560 --> 01:03:07,000
Speaker 1: to help. There's a girl who's covering her face no emmy,

1261
01:03:07,240 --> 01:03:09,720
Speaker 1: and we need to I mute her. Someone needs to

1262
01:03:09,800 --> 01:03:11,600
Speaker 1: help me because I can't do this on my own.

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01:03:12,000 --> 01:03:15,919
Speaker 1: I don't have the capacity today. The way the way

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01:03:16,000 --> 01:03:18,840
Speaker 1: you seeing heirloom, please don't talk to me. No, no, no,

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01:03:19,240 --> 01:03:22,720
Speaker 1: I wouldn't know. I know because the way if you

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01:03:23,000 --> 01:03:25,360
Speaker 1: you said heirloom, heirloom tomato. I know how to spell

1267
01:03:25,400 --> 01:03:26,720
Speaker 1: it and everything because I just went to the mother

1268
01:03:26,760 --> 01:03:29,600
Speaker 1: Buck grocery store and I watched Food Network and you

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01:03:29,680 --> 01:03:32,800
Speaker 1: help us. Please it is h E I R l oh.

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01:03:33,400 --> 01:03:36,040
Speaker 1: I had to mute her, no emmy, please please, please,

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01:03:36,040 --> 01:03:39,960
Speaker 1: please help us. Let's passed down from generation to generation

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01:03:40,080 --> 01:03:43,600
Speaker 1: within your family. Thank you, and okay, let me I'm

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01:03:43,640 --> 01:03:52,200
Speaker 1: you Mandy. Wow, So me and my tomato apartment. I

1274
01:03:52,920 --> 01:03:54,440
Speaker 1: really thought I was about to get you on that.

1275
01:03:54,880 --> 01:03:59,600
Speaker 1: This is shit I have ever seen on the show.

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01:04:00,120 --> 01:04:07,560
Speaker 1: Never heard heirloom talk about anything but tomatoes. All right,

1277
01:04:09,000 --> 01:04:11,880
Speaker 1: So I'm saying I wanted all that to pass down

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01:04:11,960 --> 01:04:16,200
Speaker 1: from generation to generation, right, And he says to me, Okay,

1279
01:04:16,240 --> 01:04:18,040
Speaker 1: so you guys know my real name now because I

1280
01:04:18,120 --> 01:04:20,680
Speaker 1: mentioned it. Um, someone said Vandy and wrong, she's just

1281
01:04:20,760 --> 01:04:30,320
Speaker 1: not writing I was about I'm talking. So basically, you

1282
01:04:30,360 --> 01:04:32,040
Speaker 1: guys know my name is Gela because I brought it

1283
01:04:32,120 --> 01:04:34,080
Speaker 1: up when I did the Black Lives Matter situation. So

1284
01:04:34,240 --> 01:04:36,680
Speaker 1: Gila is a very Jewish name. And he's on the

1285
01:04:36,720 --> 01:04:38,720
Speaker 1: phone with me and he goes, Gila, Gila, listen to me.

1286
01:04:39,000 --> 01:04:41,680
Speaker 1: I hear you. I'm with you. I want to keep

1287
01:04:41,720 --> 01:04:45,520
Speaker 1: our people, you know, flourishing too. But you know, from

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01:04:45,600 --> 01:04:49,360
Speaker 1: one to another, Money's got it through and through, money

1289
01:04:49,440 --> 01:04:51,680
Speaker 1: is gonna win this one. And basically with my bitch,

1290
01:04:51,760 --> 01:04:54,760
Speaker 1: fuck you and our Jewish ancestry. And he wasn't on

1291
01:04:54,840 --> 01:04:57,200
Speaker 1: some Jewish Lives Matter ship and he basically took the

1292
01:04:57,600 --> 01:04:59,840
Speaker 1: higher offer. And you know, I was kind of man

1293
01:05:00,320 --> 01:05:02,720
Speaker 1: because my man gave me the twenty five to fun

1294
01:05:02,880 --> 01:05:05,360
Speaker 1: put on my ship, so you know, like, wow, now

1295
01:05:05,400 --> 01:05:09,040
Speaker 1: you gotta have it back anyway, And I was like,

1296
01:05:09,160 --> 01:05:12,240
Speaker 1: I would have kept that bitch. No, he was like,

1297
01:05:13,160 --> 01:05:16,360
Speaker 1: that would have went towards the next bidding war. Oh,

1298
01:05:16,440 --> 01:05:18,440
Speaker 1: we're gonna watch the fake bidding war. I'm about to

1299
01:05:18,480 --> 01:05:21,400
Speaker 1: do handy. I'm about to be like, wow, they're doing

1300
01:05:21,480 --> 01:05:25,480
Speaker 1: it again, but this time it's fifty. But you know

1301
01:05:26,440 --> 01:05:30,200
Speaker 1: it was rough, and uh, anyway, I'm piste off. But

1302
01:05:30,320 --> 01:05:31,960
Speaker 1: you know what, obviously it's not the one for me,

1303
01:05:32,040 --> 01:05:35,080
Speaker 1: even though the two bedroom seven square but with four

1304
01:05:35,200 --> 01:05:38,480
Speaker 1: closets in the lower east Side with an elevator, maybe

1305
01:05:38,640 --> 01:05:41,920
Speaker 1: it wasn't for me. I can't believe it. Also just

1306
01:05:42,040 --> 01:05:45,520
Speaker 1: want to say, uh, you know, maybe in the wintertime,

1307
01:05:45,560 --> 01:05:47,480
Speaker 1: people will be desperate to get out and I can

1308
01:05:47,560 --> 01:05:52,000
Speaker 1: gentrify a white neighborhood. Maybe. Okay, I ain't mad by

1309
01:05:52,040 --> 01:05:56,280
Speaker 1: the way I reclaimed the host position, mitch Um, but

1310
01:05:57,680 --> 01:06:00,760
Speaker 1: it's yours. I ain't gonna hold you like. I never

1311
01:06:00,960 --> 01:06:04,400
Speaker 1: had heard that outside of the Cooking Channel, So I

1312
01:06:04,560 --> 01:06:06,520
Speaker 1: really thought I was about to get you. But it's cool.

1313
01:06:06,720 --> 01:06:09,920
Speaker 1: It's cool. Fuck y'all, UM, all of y'all who were

1314
01:06:10,000 --> 01:06:14,600
Speaker 1: laughing at me as well. UM. So I have not

1315
01:06:14,880 --> 01:06:18,960
Speaker 1: yet gotten into, um the real estate aspect of things.

1316
01:06:19,040 --> 01:06:20,800
Speaker 1: I know you've been talking about a lot with like

1317
01:06:21,200 --> 01:06:25,880
Speaker 1: mortgage brokers and loans and interest rates and UM. I'm

1318
01:06:25,920 --> 01:06:30,360
Speaker 1: actually just starting now the process on this truck. UM.

1319
01:06:30,760 --> 01:06:33,640
Speaker 1: But outside of that, I guess i'll update you to UM.

1320
01:06:34,120 --> 01:06:38,160
Speaker 1: The subscription box that I am doing, guys is underway.

1321
01:06:38,680 --> 01:06:41,240
Speaker 1: It will be launching this month. I finalized all of

1322
01:06:41,320 --> 01:06:45,280
Speaker 1: my products UM for that. It's just exciting to have

1323
01:06:45,480 --> 01:06:50,200
Speaker 1: had this time. I guess it's right. Uh, yes and no,

1324
01:06:50,760 --> 01:06:54,320
Speaker 1: because I'm waiting right now depending on and this is

1325
01:06:54,400 --> 01:06:56,600
Speaker 1: me being very transparent with y'all with my business now.

1326
01:06:56,960 --> 01:06:59,560
Speaker 1: But UM, because of what's been going on with the

1327
01:06:59,680 --> 01:07:02,760
Speaker 1: U s PS, I'm trying to figure out if I

1328
01:07:02,880 --> 01:07:05,600
Speaker 1: want to go through UPS or fedics and kind of

1329
01:07:06,040 --> 01:07:11,240
Speaker 1: looking at the different shipping price options. No USPS is

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01:07:11,320 --> 01:07:13,560
Speaker 1: the cheapest, No, no fex between ups